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30 years ago, a new music burst out of New York's Black and gay clubs, | 0:00:02 | 0:00:06 | |
a soundtrack for the '70s. This new, urban pop may have been created by male producers | 0:00:06 | 0:00:12 | |
but it was fronted by women - | 0:00:12 | 0:00:16 | |
and what women...with what front! | 0:00:16 | 0:00:18 | |
Let's meet the Queens of Disco. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:20 | |
# Go on, now - go! | 0:00:20 | 0:00:22 | |
# Walk out the door... # | 0:00:22 | 0:00:24 | |
-The queen of survival... -I've had to survive a lot of personal anguish | 0:00:24 | 0:00:28 | |
in my life. And...I've done that. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:31 | |
# I need the hard stuff, baby, this evening... # | 0:00:31 | 0:00:34 | |
-..a reluctant queen... -I think she regretted it a little, | 0:00:34 | 0:00:39 | |
because it was a little too sexy. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:41 | |
# Pull up to the bumper baby... # | 0:00:41 | 0:00:43 | |
..a warrior queen... | 0:00:43 | 0:00:46 | |
If it wasn't for disco, I wouldn't be sitting here. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:49 | |
# ..Ah, do you want it, huh...? # | 0:00:49 | 0:00:51 | |
..the gay queen... | 0:00:51 | 0:00:53 | |
'I thought you were a woman!' | 0:00:53 | 0:00:57 | |
'I'm everywoman... # | 0:00:57 | 0:00:58 | |
..the fiery queen... | 0:00:58 | 0:01:00 | |
I couldn't be in the background, I had to be in the front. | 0:01:00 | 0:01:02 | |
# ..I fall deeper and deeper The further I go... # | 0:01:02 | 0:01:07 | |
..and the queen of reinvention. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:10 | |
She knew she was gonna be a big star, but the rest of the world just didn't know it. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:13 | |
# ..Oh, lost in music! | 0:01:13 | 0:01:16 | |
# ..Caught in the trap... | 0:01:16 | 0:01:18 | |
-# ..Caught up in our music -No turning' back | 0:01:18 | 0:01:24 | |
-# Oooooh-ooh ooh-ooh -We're lost in music | 0:01:24 | 0:01:28 | |
# We're lost in music | 0:01:31 | 0:01:33 | |
# Don't take away our music | 0:01:33 | 0:01:35 | |
# ..Feel so alive... | 0:01:35 | 0:01:37 | |
-# Feel! I quit -My nine-to-five | 0:01:37 | 0:01:40 | |
# Yeah! | 0:01:40 | 0:01:43 | |
# We're lost in music... # | 0:01:43 | 0:01:45 | |
It was the 1970s, the "please me" decade, | 0:01:57 | 0:02:01 | |
party time with a brand-new soundtrack. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:04 | |
People were just burnin' the candle at both ends. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:06 | |
People thought the party would never stop, the music would never stop... | 0:02:06 | 0:02:10 | |
the record never stops. It was a non-stop party. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:15 | |
Everyone wanted to be happy, | 0:02:19 | 0:02:21 | |
and the dancing was gonna make you happy. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:23 | |
It certainly was the time to shout out who you are, what you are | 0:02:23 | 0:02:27 | |
and what you wanted to be | 0:02:27 | 0:02:29 | |
Every disco, would all be up on the dance floor, | 0:02:29 | 0:02:32 | |
and we danced round our handbags. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:34 | |
# We are family...# | 0:02:34 | 0:02:36 | |
"Women's lib" was gaining ground among black women. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:39 | |
They could sing a sexier song than men could sing... | 0:02:39 | 0:02:43 | |
There was no sampling in those days, no computers. It was the real deal. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:47 | |
So you had to be a great singer. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:49 | |
A lot of divas were born out of disco. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:51 | |
After the struggles of the '60s, | 0:02:51 | 0:02:53 | |
gay men in New York felt free to "come out" and party for the first time. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:58 | |
I just remember | 0:02:58 | 0:03:00 | |
getting up on the dance floor and showing off | 0:03:00 | 0:03:02 | |
There is an affinity between "out" gay men and successful black women - | 0:03:02 | 0:03:09 | |
because we've had to swim upstream of the same stereotypes most of our life and had the same enemies, | 0:03:09 | 0:03:13 | |
and the same joys. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:14 | |
# We are family... # | 0:03:14 | 0:03:17 | |
It was a new world with new stars. Ste forward our first queen, | 0:03:17 | 0:03:21 | |
disco's great survivor. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:23 | |
INTRO: PIANO RIFF | 0:03:23 | 0:03:27 | |
# At first I was afraid I was petrified... # | 0:03:27 | 0:03:30 | |
New York, September 2005, | 0:03:30 | 0:03:33 | |
and our first queen of disco is about to be inducted into the Dance Music Hall of Fame. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:39 | |
THE sis Gloria Gaynor, the woman who gave disco its greatest anthem. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:43 | |
# I will survive... # | 0:03:43 | 0:03:45 | |
"I will survive" also sums up the life of the woman who sings it. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:50 | |
Gloria Fowles, as she then was, | 0:03:50 | 0:03:53 | |
was born in New Jersey in 1947. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:55 | |
Her Mom, Queenie Mae, had to bring up all seven children on their own, | 0:03:55 | 0:04:00 | |
after their father left before Gloria was even born. It was a poor but religious family. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:05 | |
Young Gloria started singing in the church choir. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:08 | |
I actually feel that it was a Divine appointment, that God looked down | 0:04:08 | 0:04:12 | |
and said, "Gloria, you have to sing." | 0:04:12 | 0:04:15 | |
# Thank you, Lord Thank you... # | 0:04:15 | 0:04:20 | |
Almost all black singers of that generation sang in church. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:24 | |
TWO-PART HARMONY # I want Your love... # | 0:04:24 | 0:04:29 | |
There's a certain kind of feeling that you get from gospel music. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:32 | |
When you praise God, | 0:04:32 | 0:04:35 | |
there's a feeling that you bring that energy in. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:37 | |
Gloria was very close to her mother, so she was devastated when Queenie died. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:43 | |
She turned to the church for comfort. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:45 | |
God has been there for her. he's been her strength as she coped with all of the difficulties in her life, | 0:04:45 | 0:04:52 | |
I'm pretty sure. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:54 | |
She's able to cope through her faith. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:57 | |
Now Gloria also had to earn a living, so she used what she saw as her God-given talent | 0:04:58 | 0:05:04 | |
working as a session singer and on the cabaret circuit | 0:05:04 | 0:05:07 | |
Her reputation grew and, in the early 70s, she was signed by majorlabel MGM. They teamed her up | 0:05:07 | 0:05:14 | |
with a producer who was looking for a great voice to go with a new idea. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:18 | |
Something that sounded as if it cost a million dollars to make. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:23 | |
Tom Moulton had worked as a club DJ. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:25 | |
Now that discotheques were springingup everywhere, Tom knew what clubbers wanted. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:30 | |
In 1974, "Never Can Say Goodbye" became the first extended-mix record. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:35 | |
The things that people going to these clubs wanted to hear | 0:05:35 | 0:05:38 | |
were tracks of eight or ten minutes. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:40 | |
With something like that, you could lose yourself in the music. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:43 | |
All the DJs seemed to jump on it. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
That sort of created a...phenomenon. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:51 | |
# Baby, I never can say goodbye No, no, no... | 0:05:51 | 0:05:56 | |
# No, no, no No, no, no, ooh... # | 0:05:56 | 0:05:59 | |
But Gloria herself had reservations about this new way of doing things. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:03 | |
My ego was...tapped, because it seemed to me that he only used the music to elongate the record | 0:06:06 | 0:06:12 | |
instead of using more of my vocal. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:15 | |
She listened to the whole thing... | 0:06:17 | 0:06:21 | |
and she said, "I don't sing much." | 0:06:21 | 0:06:25 | |
-Gloria apparently turned round and said, "Well, what do -I -do...when we're performing this record? | 0:06:25 | 0:06:30 | |
-And Tom says... -"Well, I guess you have to start dancing a little too." | 0:06:30 | 0:06:34 | |
The formula worked. "Never Could Say Goodbye" was the first disco record to cross over into the pop charts. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:45 | |
America's disco DJs crowned Gloria the first official queen of disco. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:49 | |
She was riding high. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:51 | |
Then, in 1978, disaster struck. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:55 | |
I fell backwards over a monitor. | 0:06:55 | 0:06:57 | |
I'd ruptured a disc in that fall. | 0:06:57 | 0:06:59 | |
Woke up the next morning paralysed from the waist down. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:03 | |
She needed emergency surgery on her spine. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:05 | |
Doctors told her she might never walk again. She spent the next four months in hospital. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:10 | |
People around, in the business, were thinking that I was finished, saying, | 0:07:10 | 0:07:14 | |
"the queen is dead," and things like that. It was probably the lowest ebb in my career... | 0:07:14 | 0:07:19 | |
because I never expected that, I expected that they would... support me. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:23 | |
Meanwhile, songwriter Dino Fekares was working with producer Freddy Perrinon a new song. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:30 | |
I had no idea who was gonna sing it except that I remember telling Freddy, | 0:07:30 | 0:07:35 | |
"The next diva that comes our way, | 0:07:35 | 0:07:38 | |
"this is the tune we're gonna do on her." | 0:07:38 | 0:07:41 | |
Ill as she was, as soon as she read the lyrics, Gloria knew it was the song for her. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:46 | |
I've had to survive a lot of personal anguish in my life. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:50 | |
My mother passed away, my sister passed away, my brothers, two of my brothers passed away - from cancer - | 0:07:50 | 0:07:56 | |
my sister was murdered. | 0:07:56 | 0:07:58 | |
The next thing I did was "I Will Survive". | 0:07:58 | 0:08:02 | |
And I suppose that all of that helped me to sing "I Will Survive" with great conviction. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:06 | |
# At first I was afraid I was petrified | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
# Kept thinking I could never live without you by my side... # | 0:08:09 | 0:08:13 | |
Even in this famous video, Gloria's back is still in a brace. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:17 | |
# ..And I grew strong And I learned ho to get along... # | 0:08:17 | 0:08:21 | |
And after recording it, she went straight back into hospital | 0:08:21 | 0:08:25 | |
She was convinced the song should be a hit. But the record company had other ideas. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:30 | |
"I Will Survive" was put by the record company on the disc's B-side. It wasn't considered strong enough | 0:08:30 | 0:08:36 | |
-for the release... -..It could've gotten lost. But somebody decided to listen to that B-side, in Mew York, | 0:08:36 | 0:08:43 | |
and flipped the record. And it took off. People liked it. People loved it. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:48 | |
The company didn't believe in it but Gloria did. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:50 | |
"Did you think I'd lay down and die? Oh, no, not I! | 0:08:50 | 0:08:54 | |
# I will survive... # | 0:08:54 | 0:08:56 | |
You put "I Will Survive" on and, I dunno - that uplifts you, really. | 0:08:56 | 0:09:01 | |
Gay men, particularly, took it as... | 0:09:01 | 0:09:03 | |
just an anthem for the community as a whole. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:06 | |
Women's liberation" was kinda surfacing, | 0:09:06 | 0:09:09 | |
and that was la proclamation to all women. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:13 | |
My three kids - "Oh, your song's on, Mum." Sorry, Gloria! I know it's yours as well, but... | 0:09:13 | 0:09:18 | |
"No matter what happens in my life and to me, I will overcome it, I will survive." | 0:09:18 | 0:09:22 | |
To be able to get out on a dance floor and say, "Here I am! | 0:09:22 | 0:09:26 | |
"This is me. No matter what has gone on in my life, I'm here. I will fight who I am - " | 0:09:26 | 0:09:32 | |
I think it's an anthem for EVERYONE. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:34 | |
# ..I will survive | 0:09:34 | 0:09:36 | |
# Oh, as long as I know how to love I know I'll stay alive... # | 0:09:36 | 0:09:40 | |
GLORIA: The song celebrates the tenacity of the human spirit - that's anybody anywhere! | 0:09:40 | 0:09:45 | |
I can't tell you what a blessing this song has been to me. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:49 | |
AUDIENCE SING | 0:09:49 | 0:09:51 | |
"I Will Survive" has taken on a life of its own. It's been re-released | 0:09:51 | 0:09:55 | |
countless times, and covered by over 200 different artists. | 0:09:55 | 0:10:00 | |
Gloria continues to perform around the world, but no later record's even topped "I Will Survive". | 0:10:00 | 0:10:05 | |
Will you survive? | 0:10:05 | 0:10:07 | |
-AUDIENCE: -YES! -I'm certainly glad to hear that. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:10 | |
Today, she's gone back to her gospel roots, | 0:10:10 | 0:10:13 | |
but she does pop out to collect the odd award. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:16 | |
You can't really separate the success of my career from "I Will Survive". | 0:10:16 | 0:10:19 | |
But the way that "I Will Survive" has been able to stand the test of time and carry my career...! | 0:10:19 | 0:10:25 | |
To accept the award for "I Will Survive"... | 0:10:25 | 0:10:29 | |
..I don't feel cheated, I don't feel at a loss. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:34 | |
It would've been nice. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:37 | |
Miss Gloria Gaynoo-o-o-o-o-or! | 0:10:37 | 0:10:41 | |
..but it's WONDERFUL to have this song. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:45 | |
Thank you so much, all of you, for your support. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:51 | |
New York was the birthplace of disco in the 1970s. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:02 | |
It was the city every would-be queen of disco wanted to conquer. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:06 | |
The underground club scene was thriving... | 0:11:06 | 0:11:08 | |
# ..You grew up ridin' the subways... # | 0:11:08 | 0:11:11 | |
..even though the city had fallen on hard times. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:15 | |
-# Up in Harlem Down in Broadway... # -New York was always a tough place. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:20 | |
Every park was taken over by drug dealers. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:23 | |
# you're the heart and soul of New York City... # | 0:11:23 | 0:11:26 | |
-MAN: -We had police strikes, | 0:11:26 | 0:11:28 | |
we had garbage strikes. On every level, the city was really being challenged. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:33 | |
That challenge led to a lot of need for freedom and for self-expression. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:37 | |
There was without a doubt a buzz on the streets of New York. It was ALIVE. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:41 | |
There was this very heady sense of possibility - that you really could just... | 0:11:41 | 0:11:47 | |
reinvent yourself and be anything | 0:11:47 | 0:11:49 | |
and do anything. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:51 | |
And do it all night long. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:53 | |
# Everybody dance Oo-oo-ooo... # | 0:11:53 | 0:11:56 | |
And disco brought everyone together. | 0:11:56 | 0:11:59 | |
You had this real interesting, very New York kind of mix of black and gay dance aesthetics... | 0:11:59 | 0:12:05 | |
all mixing together. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:07 | |
The whole thing was about... the endless partying. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:11 | |
# I... # | 0:12:13 | 0:12:15 | |
Our next queen also came from a gospel background to create a succession of sexy secular anthems. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:21 | |
It was racy, making love to a microphone. It's all going off. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:24 | |
But was she too sexy for her own good? | 0:12:24 | 0:12:27 | |
She kind of...regretted it | 0:12:27 | 0:12:29 | |
because it was a little too sexy. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:32 | |
Donna Summer was a "born again" Christian, | 0:12:32 | 0:12:35 | |
yet she made her fame singing a song | 0:12:35 | 0:12:38 | |
that was basically her simulating an orgasm. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:41 | |
Enter the reluctant queen. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:42 | |
# Lookin' for some hot stuff baby this evenin'... # | 0:12:42 | 0:12:46 | |
JESUS said-ah...! | 0:12:46 | 0:12:49 | |
"I did not come to call the righteous-ah!" | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
Like Gloria Gaynor, Donna Summer was born into a deeply religious community, this time in Boston, | 0:12:52 | 0:12:58 | |
in 1948. She also sang in the church as a child and believed her voice was a gift from God. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:04 | |
But when Donna was 16, the close-knit community was rocked by murder. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:10 | |
She's the only eyewitness. The police show up and they... | 0:13:10 | 0:13:13 | |
FORCE her to testify. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:16 | |
And she begins to get these death threats. And she freaks out. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:21 | |
Donna fled to New York. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
It was 1968, the "summer of love". | 0:13:24 | 0:13:27 | |
# This is the dawning of the Age of Aquarius... # | 0:13:27 | 0:13:31 | |
After growing up in this restricted, Christian neighbourhood, | 0:13:31 | 0:13:36 | |
she's suddenly thrust - alone - into the world of hippy-dippy New York City | 0:13:36 | 0:13:43 | |
and she is ecstatic! I mean, she feels free for the first time in her life. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:48 | |
Donna auditioned for a new, European production of the risque musical Hair. She was successful, | 0:13:48 | 0:13:54 | |
and spent the next seven years in Germany. There, she teamed up with a producer | 0:13:54 | 0:13:58 | |
who was to revolutionise the sound of disco with his synthesiser. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:03 | |
A CAPELLA: # I... | 0:14:03 | 0:14:07 | |
"Love To Love You, Baby" started as a bit of a joke. She came up with the title "Love To Love You, Baby", | 0:14:07 | 0:14:11 | |
and said "Why don't we do a song?" | 0:14:11 | 0:14:14 | |
I threw everybody out , dimmed the lights so she couldn't see me and I could barely see her, | 0:14:19 | 0:14:24 | |
and that's when she did it. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:26 | |
AS A SIGH: # I... | 0:14:26 | 0:14:29 | |
# love to love you, baby | 0:14:29 | 0:14:32 | |
AS A MOAN: # I... | 0:14:32 | 0:14:33 | |
# love to love you, baby... # | 0:14:33 | 0:14:36 | |
To be honest, I don't think she really thought about it. She just did it, and we did it in, probably | 0:14:36 | 0:14:42 | |
15, 20 minutes. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:43 | |
She never intended for that recording to be released to the public! | 0:14:43 | 0:14:48 | |
Once it's recorded, it's there forever. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:51 | |
AS A GROAN: # I... | 0:14:51 | 0:14:53 | |
# love to love you, baby... # | 0:14:53 | 0:14:55 | |
It was 1975. Giorgio sent the recording to Casablanca, a young record company with a reputation | 0:14:55 | 0:15:02 | |
for signing wild, sexy acts. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:04 | |
The phone rings. "Congratulations. You've got the number one hit record in America." | 0:15:04 | 0:15:09 | |
"What record is that?" she said. "Love To Love You, Baby", | 0:15:09 | 0:15:12 | |
and she just dissolves into a... a combination of joy and fear. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:18 | |
# I love to love you, baby... # | 0:15:18 | 0:15:22 | |
At the very beginning, when the record came out, she was all happy, of course, because it was a big hit. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:28 | |
But later on, I think she kind of regretted it because it was a little too sexy. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:35 | |
# Oh-h...! # | 0:15:35 | 0:15:37 | |
She hated touring. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:40 | |
Basically, her act was 20 minutes of "Love To Love You, Baby", | 0:15:40 | 0:15:44 | |
# Oh...love to love you, baby... # | 0:15:44 | 0:15:48 | |
It became a breakthrough hit. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:51 | |
The DJs love it because, in a sense, this kind of orgasmic symphony | 0:15:51 | 0:15:55 | |
is exactly what's happening on the dance floor. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:57 | |
I says, "Uh-oh, here it comes!" | 0:15:57 | 0:16:00 | |
Sex and disco! | 0:16:00 | 0:16:03 | |
In those days, it was racy! My granddad would say, | 0:16:04 | 0:16:08 | |
"Stop playin' that devil-music!" | 0:16:08 | 0:16:10 | |
# I...love to love you, baby... # | 0:16:10 | 0:16:12 | |
It's quite porno, her voice. In some ways, it makes you understand why she found God. Cos she was like a... | 0:16:12 | 0:16:18 | |
you know, like a porno actress, really. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:20 | |
-GROANING SIGH: -# Oh-h... -I love to love you, babe... # | 0:16:20 | 0:16:26 | |
Donna was a star. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:28 | |
But offstage, she was becoming more and more depressed by her fame, | 0:16:28 | 0:16:32 | |
and the lifestyle that went with it. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:34 | |
One night in 1976, she reached rock bottom. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:38 | |
She becomes a huge star | 0:16:38 | 0:16:41 | |
and then tries to kill herself. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:43 | |
She's in this hotel room and she feels that... She's depressed. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:48 | |
She goes to the window and decides to jump to her death. And she's about to go over when the maid comes in, | 0:16:48 | 0:16:55 | |
and says, "Oh, Miss Summer, what are you doing?! What's the matter?" | 0:16:55 | 0:16:58 | |
And the maid kind of snaps her back to reality. And that becomes the basis of Donna's own resurrection. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:06 | |
Donna later said the she felt that God had intervened to save her, and wanted her to carry on singing. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:14 | |
Casablanca sent her back into the studio with Moroder. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:18 | |
On "I Feel Love", it started with a baseline, | 0:17:18 | 0:17:22 | |
dum-dum dum-dum dum-dum dum-dum, | 0:17:22 | 0:17:25 | |
then the chords came in. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:27 | |
The only thing left HUMAN, kind of, is the voice. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:31 | |
# Ooh... | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
# it's so good, it's so good, it's so good, it's... # | 0:17:34 | 0:17:37 | |
My coming-out song was "I Feel Love". | 0:17:37 | 0:17:39 | |
I remember kind of going onto the dance floor, and I just thought I'd died and gone to heaven. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:45 | |
You know, it was like when Judy Garland woke up after the hurricane, | 0:17:45 | 0:17:49 | |
it was that kind of feeling - it was all in Technicolor all of a sudden. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:53 | |
Casablanca began to promote her as the sexy queen of disco... | 0:17:53 | 0:17:57 | |
# ..A little hot stuff, baby this evenin'... # | 0:17:57 | 0:18:01 | |
..and it worked. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:02 | |
In 2½ years, she had 12 consecutive smash hits. The label had created a one-woman hit factory. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:09 | |
# ..The bad girl Talkin' 'bout the sad girl, yeah... # | 0:18:09 | 0:18:16 | |
80% of the disco-era Donna is manufactured on records. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:21 | |
# Let's dance... | 0:18:21 | 0:18:22 | |
# the last dance | 0:18:22 | 0:18:24 | |
# Let's dance... | 0:18:24 | 0:18:25 | |
# The last dance... # | 0:18:25 | 0:18:27 | |
It was all of the handlers - | 0:18:27 | 0:18:29 | |
her stylists telling her what to wear, how to act - how to arrive in a limousine. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:34 | |
She was a little uncomfortable with it. But... | 0:18:34 | 0:18:38 | |
she made the most out of it. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:41 | |
# .Yeah...ooh... # | 0:18:41 | 0:18:44 | |
I was tired of the whole sex image, | 0:18:44 | 0:18:48 | |
because it wasn't me, it was something I was playing - a role. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:51 | |
It wasn't who I WAS, as a person. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:53 | |
And I always resented it, but it was the publicity and all that that the record company did, | 0:18:53 | 0:18:59 | |
just pressed me into this mould. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:00 | |
# So let's dance the last dance... # | 0:19:00 | 0:19:04 | |
By now, Donna was also writing some of her songs, earning millions for herself - and the record company. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:10 | |
But by the end of the '70s, she wanted out. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:14 | |
It was an acrimonious split with Casablanca. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
She later wrote a song attacking labels who treat their artists like slaves. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:21 | |
# She works hard for the money So hard for you honey | 0:19:21 | 0:19:27 | |
# She works hard for the money So you better treat her right... # | 0:19:28 | 0:19:33 | |
Once she split with Casablanca, that was pretty much it for Donna Summer. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:37 | |
Away from that sound, | 0:19:37 | 0:19:39 | |
there really IS no Donna Summer. She's just another voice... you know, in the wind. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:45 | |
"When a man and a woman fall in love..." | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
In the '80s, Donna Summer continued to write and release records | 0:19:48 | 0:19:52 | |
but she'd toned down her raunchy image and was more inspired by gospel music than disco. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:57 | |
Then, in 1983, she hit the headlines again, this time for all the wrong reasons. | 0:19:57 | 0:20:03 | |
Donna volunteered or was baited into saying things in the Press | 0:20:03 | 0:20:09 | |
that we interpreted | 0:20:09 | 0:20:11 | |
as flagrantly homophobic. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:13 | |
She was quoting her Christian, fundamentalist roots, | 0:20:13 | 0:20:17 | |
And I'm sure that's where her heart and head purely were at the time - but they were hateful. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:22 | |
It was...like a...bad word, "Donna Summer". | 0:20:22 | 0:20:26 | |
They didn't want to play any of her stuff, and...yeah, that was a bad time. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:31 | |
We had loved her, worshipped her and MADE her, created her and made her very rich, | 0:20:31 | 0:20:36 | |
and we resented the hell out of it. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:38 | |
I think...all those people have probably forgiven her by now. So... | 0:20:38 | 0:20:42 | |
You know. And we still listen to her anyway. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:45 | |
# Time... Time again, it is said We will hear, we will see... #q | 0:20:45 | 0:20:51 | |
Donna is still performing a gospel-inspired act around the world. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:56 | |
There's a lot of gospel singing these days. It's very much into Christianity. | 0:20:56 | 0:21:02 | |
# This state of independence shall be | 0:21:02 | 0:21:04 | |
# This state of independence shall be... # | 0:21:04 | 0:21:07 | |
That's a way of saying, "Well, I may have been bad but I'm good now." | 0:21:07 | 0:21:11 | |
Donna says that in her house there isn't a single gold record displayed. | 0:21:11 | 0:21:16 | |
Which means...she doesn't consider any of that important. But the house is there BECAUSE of the gold records! | 0:21:16 | 0:21:22 | |
Our next diva was also brought up in the church. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:29 | |
But disco allowed spirituality to mix outrageous sexuality. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:33 | |
"Sylvester?! I thought you were a woman!" | 0:21:33 | 0:21:36 | |
"WHAT is he wearing?" | 0:21:36 | 0:21:38 | |
"And what is he singing?" | 0:21:38 | 0:21:41 | |
Sylvester was a gay MAN, but that wasn't about to stop him becoming a disco queen. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:45 | |
After all, he already sang higher than all the girls. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:52 | |
# DO you wanna funk? Won't you tell me now...? # | 0:21:52 | 0:21:56 | |
I really don't think there's been anybody else that's made an entrance like him... Maybe Diana Ross. | 0:21:56 | 0:22:03 | |
There is nobody like him - | 0:22:03 | 0:22:05 | |
white or black. And the fact of him (a) being a black man, | 0:22:05 | 0:22:09 | |
(b) being a GAY black man - you know, that's two taboos right there. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:14 | |
And he was able to surpass all that and still be himself and put on one helluva show. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:20 | |
Sylvester James jr grew up in Los Angeles. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:25 | |
His father left his mother, Letha, when Sylvester was just a baby. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:29 | |
But, like Gloria and Donna, he had a devout upbringing. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:33 | |
The Church, for Sylvester, was where he first got his musical training. He brought that with him | 0:22:33 | 0:22:39 | |
from church to disco. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:42 | |
But he was a troubled youth. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:44 | |
When he was 15, he ran away from home and lived rough on the streets of LA. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:49 | |
He began to dress as a woman. Eventually, he drifted north to San Francisco. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:54 | |
I think he was drawn to freedom | 0:22:54 | 0:22:56 | |
and to the sense that in San Francisco, people were living out their imaginations. | 0:22:56 | 0:23:01 | |
And that's how he always want to do things. He fantasised himself | 0:23:01 | 0:23:05 | |
and then he wanted to live that fantasy. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:08 | |
# Fish gotta swim birds gotta fly... # | 0:23:08 | 0:23:12 | |
He teamed up with a group of outrageous, hippy drag artists called The Cockettes. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:16 | |
# ..Lovin' dat man of mine... # | 0:23:16 | 0:23:21 | |
He joined the show impersonating female blues singers. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:25 | |
LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE | 0:23:25 | 0:23:28 | |
# Baby, baby... # | 0:23:28 | 0:23:29 | |
This was... | 0:23:29 | 0:23:31 | |
Billie Holliday and Diana Ross on LSD. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:34 | |
Sylvester stood out from the group. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:36 | |
Sylvester was probably the most talented one in the Cockettes at the time. He could get out there... | 0:23:36 | 0:23:42 | |
and sing, and everyone stopped. And it became...almost serious | 0:23:42 | 0:23:46 | |
to watch his performance. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:48 | |
WORDLESS VAMPING: FALSETTO SOUNDS LIKE TRUE SOPRANO | 0:23:48 | 0:23:54 | |
He was soon performing his own shows. Now he needed some backing singers. | 0:23:57 | 0:24:02 | |
There were two white, tall females, | 0:24:02 | 0:24:05 | |
blonde, leggy, who had just auditioned to him. And... | 0:24:05 | 0:24:10 | |
I came in and auditioned for him | 0:24:10 | 0:24:13 | |
and he said, "OK..." | 0:24:13 | 0:24:15 | |
And he dismissed the other girls. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:19 | |
And he asked me, he said, | 0:24:19 | 0:24:22 | |
"Do you know of anybody else that's as large as you are and can sing?" And I said yes. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:29 | |
Martha Wash and Izora Rhodes would eventually become The Weather Girls but, back then, | 0:24:29 | 0:24:35 | |
they were known as Two Tons Of Fun. It was a perfect combination. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:39 | |
When he found them, musically, things clicked. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:41 | |
The audience just ate it up. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:43 | |
FALSETTO: # Oh...! | 0:24:43 | 0:24:45 | |
# Truck stop, yeah...! # | 0:24:45 | 0:24:48 | |
Having started out impersonating women singers, Sylvester was still hitting the high notes. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:54 | |
I was the one singing at the bottom! And Izora would sing in the middle and Sylvester would sing the top. | 0:24:54 | 0:24:59 | |
FALSETTO: # Oh-aaaaaaaaah! # | 0:24:59 | 0:25:03 | |
My voice doesn't come anywhere near his. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:05 | |
AUDIENCE WHOOP | 0:25:05 | 0:25:07 | |
He could tear that falsetto-soprano voice up | 0:25:07 | 0:25:10 | |
and sing higher than quite a few FEMALES I knew. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:13 | |
He's such a gospel singer, you know? He'd just kind of like...go off | 0:25:13 | 0:25:17 | |
and just let his spirit soar while he's singing. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:20 | |
# You make me feel | 0:25:20 | 0:25:23 | |
# Mighty real... # | 0:25:24 | 0:25:26 | |
The breakthrough hit came in 1978 "with You Make Me Feel". | 0:25:27 | 0:25:31 | |
# ..mighty real... # | 0:25:31 | 0:25:34 | |
But mainstream success also brought controversy. Sylvester was openly gay. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:39 | |
# I know you love me like you... | 0:25:39 | 0:25:41 | |
SOARING FALSETTO: # ..should! # | 0:25:41 | 0:25:44 | |
The record company, per se, did not have any problems | 0:25:44 | 0:25:46 | |
with Sylvester being outrageous. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:49 | |
But we were dealing with the reactions of people | 0:25:49 | 0:25:53 | |
in the outside world who were in a position to make or break him. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:57 | |
And he'd say, "No. I'm gonna do it THIS way." | 0:25:57 | 0:26:02 | |
# ..Oh, you make me feel | 0:26:02 | 0:26:06 | |
# Mighty real... # | 0:26:06 | 0:26:10 | |
People wanted to tell him, "You need to dress like this, you need to tone down that," and... | 0:26:10 | 0:26:15 | |
Sylvester could be very, very stubborn. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:18 | |
If he felt like wearing a dress today, he'd do that. If he felt like wearing his hair orange, he'd do it. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:25 | |
You couldn't contain him! | 0:26:25 | 0:26:26 | |
At a time when there was no such thing as a gay celebrity, Sylvester took his outrageousness | 0:26:26 | 0:26:32 | |
right onto Joan Rivers' prime-time TV show. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:35 | |
He performed, and she sat down to talk to him, and she asked him about his jewellery. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:40 | |
-That's your wedding set. -That's your wedding set? OK! Who are you married to. -Duh(!) - Rick! | 0:26:40 | 0:26:48 | |
LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE | 0:26:48 | 0:26:50 | |
'And he said Rick Cranmer.' | 0:26:50 | 0:26:53 | |
And then he went, ("Oh!") | 0:26:53 | 0:26:54 | |
-Oh, God! I'm sorry, no... -What? | 0:26:54 | 0:26:58 | |
-Rick's PARENTS are watching. GASPS IN AUDIENCE -Well... | 0:26:59 | 0:27:02 | |
Surprise! | 0:27:02 | 0:27:05 | |
-He realised that Rick's parents didn't know that Rick was gay. -..Telling me they didn't know(?) | 0:27:05 | 0:27:10 | |
Rick Cranmer's parents, now - you should've looked in your closet ten years ago - you wouldn't be shocked. | 0:27:10 | 0:27:16 | |
'He was who he was.' | 0:27:16 | 0:27:19 | |
And by being on a lot of talk shows in the US, | 0:27:19 | 0:27:23 | |
he forced Americans to deal with it. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:26 | |
Sylvester continued to be outrageous, especially in the wardrobe department. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:32 | |
We loved to shop. He would call it "shopping in the name of Jesus"! | 0:27:32 | 0:27:36 | |
We're talking about capes, you know, flying on stage. Heels - you know - he had heels on, he was not playing. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:44 | |
The first meeting, he gave me a blue, sequinned dress. SHE CHUCKLES | 0:27:44 | 0:27:48 | |
"So what's your name?" "Sylvester." I said, "Sylvester?! I thought you were a woman." And he was flattered. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:54 | |
He LOVED it. "Aw, girl!" SHE LAUGHS | 0:27:54 | 0:27:58 | |
And then we'd go uptown to the wig place and get that hair. | 0:27:58 | 0:28:02 | |
"Sho' nuff! What d'you think about this? Look at this hat!" "Child, this is too long - can you cut it?" | 0:28:03 | 0:28:08 | |
"Can you dye it this colour?" | 0:28:08 | 0:28:11 | |
And I'd be like... | 0:28:11 | 0:28:13 | |
Despite his refusal to conform, in 1979, Sylvester achieved his greatest ambition - | 0:28:17 | 0:28:24 | |
to play the staunchly conventional San Francisco Opera House. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:28 | |
That was the ultimate deal for him, | 0:28:28 | 0:28:31 | |
to show up and do a huge show because he had made it in the world, and for him to come back to San Francisco | 0:28:31 | 0:28:38 | |
and let them celebrate with him. | 0:28:38 | 0:28:40 | |
# And grew up here... # | 0:28:40 | 0:28:45 | |
And in the audience that night | 0:28:45 | 0:28:48 | |
was the mother he'd left behind 17 years previously. | 0:28:48 | 0:28:52 | |
To see my son, | 0:28:52 | 0:28:54 | |
and see him perform on stage | 0:28:54 | 0:28:56 | |
was very important. | 0:28:56 | 0:28:58 | |
It made me feel very happy. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:00 | |
People accepted him | 0:29:00 | 0:29:02 | |
as Sylvester. | 0:29:02 | 0:29:04 | |
Sylvester was a star, an undoubted queen of disco. | 0:29:04 | 0:29:08 | |
But just as things were going so well... | 0:29:08 | 0:29:12 | |
"Hey, baby, what's happening?" "Baby, I don't feel too good. I may have a cold. | 0:29:12 | 0:29:16 | |
I says, "Let me feel your forehead." "I don't want you to get too close, cos I don't know what it is. | 0:29:16 | 0:29:22 | |
I says, "Come here!" He said to me, "I've got to go onstage in about 20 minutes. Come and pray with me." | 0:29:22 | 0:29:29 | |
Well, I went to visit him. That's when he told me he had AIDS. | 0:29:29 | 0:29:33 | |
And I gave him... | 0:29:33 | 0:29:36 | |
all of my support. | 0:29:36 | 0:29:38 | |
JEANIE: He says, "I'm going to be in the gay parade. And I'm going to be in a wheelchair." I said, "Really? | 0:29:38 | 0:29:45 | |
"Are you ready for that?" He says, "Oh, yeah." | 0:29:45 | 0:29:47 | |
So he WANTED them to know. | 0:29:47 | 0:29:49 | |
He called me the day that he demised. | 0:29:49 | 0:29:53 | |
Letting me know he loved me. | 0:29:53 | 0:29:55 | |
Letting me know that he was gonna be watchin' me! "No matter what." | 0:29:55 | 0:30:00 | |
He told me, he says, "Mom, I'm not gonna make it. | 0:30:00 | 0:30:04 | |
"So if you could stay with me, | 0:30:04 | 0:30:07 | |
"I would appreciate it." | 0:30:07 | 0:30:11 | |
JEANIE: The funeral was a big celebration. | 0:30:12 | 0:30:15 | |
He wanted me to sing and he wanted Martha to sing. | 0:30:15 | 0:30:19 | |
I says, "What do you want me to sing?" "What's that song that you and Martha sing everywhere you go?" | 0:30:19 | 0:30:25 | |
I said, Oh, "Touch Somebody's Life"? | 0:30:25 | 0:30:28 | |
He goes, "Please! | 0:30:28 | 0:30:30 | |
"Don't sing THAT one!" | 0:30:30 | 0:30:32 | |
I thought he wasn't gonna say, "Please sing that one"! He says "DON'T sing that one." | 0:30:34 | 0:30:39 | |
And I said, "OK, what do you want me to sing?" So - "Never Grow Old" was the first song that HE ever sang | 0:30:39 | 0:30:44 | |
in church as a child. | 0:30:44 | 0:30:46 | |
WITH EMBELLISHMENT: # Neve-e-er... # | 0:30:46 | 0:30:50 | |
In the end, he told me that he had no regrets, that he had lived his life the way he wanted to live. | 0:30:50 | 0:30:56 | |
# ..Never grow o-o-old... # | 0:30:56 | 0:31:00 | |
Of all the clubs in all the world, the best disco ever was the legendary Studio 54. | 0:31:04 | 0:31:11 | |
# It's the best disco in town Number one in disco sound | 0:31:13 | 0:31:16 | |
# It's the place where hip people meet | 0:31:16 | 0:31:18 | |
# Hey, hey...! # | 0:31:18 | 0:31:20 | |
It was simply the best discotheque in the world. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:22 | |
..Elizabeth Taylor, Mick Jagger... | 0:31:22 | 0:31:25 | |
EVERYBODY was there. | 0:31:25 | 0:31:27 | |
You might be standing next to a banker, you could be standing next to some gay kid up from the Village, | 0:31:27 | 0:31:34 | |
you could be dancing with... God knows who, | 0:31:34 | 0:31:37 | |
but we all felt there was the common ground that we all stood on and bumped to. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:42 | |
Actually - the most horrible thing, to be standing outside | 0:31:42 | 0:31:46 | |
and not being picked up to get in. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:47 | |
# ..It's the best disco in town Funky music by the pound | 0:31:47 | 0:31:51 | |
# Join the crowd Come on, dance and sing | 0:31:51 | 0:31:54 | |
# Hey, hey! | 0:31:54 | 0:31:55 | |
# It's the best disco in town... # | 0:31:55 | 0:31:58 | |
Nobody had any FEARS of sex or flirting, trying everything that would come to our mouth or nose, | 0:31:58 | 0:32:05 | |
and we just went along and had a good time ALL the way. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:08 | |
It was a world where boys could be girls and girls could be boys. | 0:32:10 | 0:32:15 | |
And Studio 54 incubated our next queen, | 0:32:15 | 0:32:18 | |
who could look like a woman and sing like a man... | 0:32:18 | 0:32:22 | |
or was it the other way round? | 0:32:22 | 0:32:23 | |
I used to go | 0:32:26 | 0:32:28 | |
before I started singing, when I was modelling | 0:32:28 | 0:32:31 | |
and just, you know, | 0:32:31 | 0:32:33 | |
dance, dance, dance my ass off. | 0:32:33 | 0:32:36 | |
People REALLY went...to dance... | 0:32:36 | 0:32:40 | |
I'm gonna do a champagne burp... | 0:32:40 | 0:32:41 | |
BURP! ..excuse me. Thank you. | 0:32:41 | 0:32:44 | |
I can't imagine somebody that partied as hard - and in such a good physical shape! | 0:32:52 | 0:32:58 | |
She defined the glamour and androgynous style | 0:32:58 | 0:33:01 | |
and in-your-face sexuality | 0:33:01 | 0:33:04 | |
and unapologetic expression of who you are regardless of where you came from | 0:33:04 | 0:33:09 | |
I-I-I-It's Grace! | 0:33:09 | 0:33:12 | |
Grace has become famous not just for her music | 0:33:13 | 0:33:16 | |
-but for her wild style... -DUBBED LION'S ROAR | 0:33:16 | 0:33:19 | |
..and unpredictability. | 0:33:19 | 0:33:21 | |
Now, hold... Hold on... | 0:33:21 | 0:33:24 | |
Grace Jones I the warrior queen whose life became performance art. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:28 | |
Grace Mendoza was born in Jamaica | 0:33:32 | 0:33:34 | |
to a well-to-do family of politicians and preachers. | 0:33:34 | 0:33:37 | |
Her father was a bishop, | 0:33:37 | 0:33:39 | |
and her upbringing was the strictest of all our queens. | 0:33:39 | 0:33:43 | |
When Grace left home, she headed to New York and looked for work as a model. | 0:33:43 | 0:33:45 | |
But she had problems being accepted for who she was. | 0:33:45 | 0:33:49 | |
My face just was not understood. They were like... | 0:33:49 | 0:33:53 | |
"Oh, but your so dark... but your nose is, is not FLAT | 0:33:53 | 0:33:58 | |
"and...large, and... but your LIPS are... | 0:33:58 | 0:34:02 | |
"are really full." They just didn't... They'd say, "Well, what ARE you?" | 0:34:02 | 0:34:07 | |
But there was one place she was appreciated - | 0:34:07 | 0:34:10 | |
at the heart of New York's party scene, Studio 54. | 0:34:10 | 0:34:14 | |
That's how I got discovered - jumpingup on tables and... | 0:34:14 | 0:34:18 | |
singing and dancing to disco music. | 0:34:18 | 0:34:22 | |
The party queen had been spotted by Island Records, | 0:34:22 | 0:34:26 | |
who decided to put her in the studio. She jumped at the chance. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:30 | |
She told me, | 0:34:30 | 0:34:31 | |
"I'll do whatever it takes to make it." | 0:34:31 | 0:34:35 | |
The producer was Tom Moulton, the man who made Gloria Gaynor a gainer. But when he heard Grace, | 0:34:35 | 0:34:40 | |
he thought she sounded like she was straight out of the movies - horror movies. | 0:34:40 | 0:34:45 | |
She couldn't sing. She sang like Bela Lugosi. | 0:34:45 | 0:34:47 | |
I...am..Drrracula. | 0:34:47 | 0:34:49 | |
I mean, that's what she SOUNDS like! I said "What is WRONG with you?" | 0:34:52 | 0:34:56 | |
Like other singers, Grace was expected to do as she was told. | 0:34:56 | 0:35:00 | |
I had NO control - at all. I was just kind of, you know, dragged around on a leash. | 0:35:00 | 0:35:06 | |
I had to be next to her...with every WORD. I mean, it's unbelievable. I just could not believe it. | 0:35:06 | 0:35:12 | |
They start to clash because Tom's an ultra-professional | 0:35:12 | 0:35:15 | |
and Grace Jones, doing her best, but she just hasn't the best voice. | 0:35:15 | 0:35:19 | |
She's got a whole lot of attitude. | 0:35:19 | 0:35:20 | |
"The star"(!) | 0:35:20 | 0:35:22 | |
-She comes down and... -LITTLE COUGHS | 0:35:24 | 0:35:26 | |
-GAGGING COUGHS -And I say, "Grace, | 0:35:26 | 0:35:29 | |
"we don't practice in this studio, we record." And then finally... | 0:35:29 | 0:35:33 | |
Ah, maybe I shouldn't... Ah, I'll say it anyway, it doesn't matter. ..finally, | 0:35:33 | 0:35:38 | |
I got so mad, and I said, "Grace, with so little, you can please so many." | 0:35:38 | 0:35:43 | |
And they said, "Until you apologise, she's not gonna sing." | 0:35:43 | 0:35:50 | |
So I picked up my jacket | 0:35:50 | 0:35:52 | |
and walked out. | 0:35:52 | 0:35:54 | |
It was...a way to force them to... | 0:35:54 | 0:35:56 | |
let me have some freedom in what I was doing. | 0:35:56 | 0:35:59 | |
# I need a man... # | 0:35:59 | 0:36:02 | |
Despite the bust-up, a record did finally come out in 1977, | 0:36:02 | 0:36:06 | |
aimed at the disco crowd. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:08 | |
To promote it, Grace went to the places she knew best, New York's gay discos. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:15 | |
# Say that you will find him Creeping up behind him... # | 0:36:15 | 0:36:18 | |
By now, Grace had met Jean-Paul Goude, the style editor of a men's fashion magazine. | 0:36:18 | 0:36:23 | |
He began to transform her stage shows. Goude turned Grace's shows into performance art. | 0:36:23 | 0:36:29 | |
# ..I need a man...! # | 0:36:29 | 0:36:31 | |
They were lovers, they had a child together, but he was... image producer... | 0:36:31 | 0:36:37 | |
director, so he produced a lot of the videos, | 0:36:37 | 0:36:40 | |
a lot of the style. | 0:36:40 | 0:36:42 | |
I always loved the mixture of threat and beauty. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:46 | |
I thought it was time for Grace to stretch out. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:50 | |
# Quand il me prend dans ses bras... # | 0:36:54 | 0:36:57 | |
She came into the club on a motorcycle and she had a black hood on. | 0:36:57 | 0:37:01 | |
"..La vie en rose... # | 0:37:01 | 0:37:04 | |
She walked over to the bar, | 0:37:04 | 0:37:06 | |
she knocked all the glasses off the bar. | 0:37:06 | 0:37:10 | |
And then she proceeded to lay back on the bar, put her high-heeled shoe | 0:37:10 | 0:37:14 | |
on top of the cash register | 0:37:14 | 0:37:15 | |
and sang "La Vie En Rose". | 0:37:15 | 0:37:17 | |
# ..Il est entre dans mon coeur... # | 0:37:17 | 0:37:20 | |
One helluva show. | 0:37:20 | 0:37:22 | |
# Everything is... | 0:37:22 | 0:37:24 | |
FALSETTO: # ..lovely! | 0:37:24 | 0:37:26 | |
# It's him for me and me for him All our live... # | 0:37:26 | 0:37:32 | |
You put her on a stage, you give her a couple of cones | 0:37:32 | 0:37:35 | |
and she will deliver | 0:37:35 | 0:37:37 | |
the most sensational live show you're ever see. | 0:37:37 | 0:37:41 | |
SNARE AND BASS DRUMS ECHO | 0:37:41 | 0:37:44 | |
She was literally coming down this HUGE staircase... | 0:37:47 | 0:37:50 | |
..and she was dressed like a... an animal. | 0:37:54 | 0:37:58 | |
CROWD ROAR | 0:37:58 | 0:38:00 | |
She really is something else - a force of nature. | 0:38:01 | 0:38:05 | |
# Night...clubbing | 0:38:05 | 0:38:08 | |
# Nightclubbing... # | 0:38:08 | 0:38:10 | |
I love to give carte blanche to artists that I respect. | 0:38:10 | 0:38:15 | |
I think those collaborations were... magical. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:18 | |
Grace was an underground star, but she still hadn't given her label a major hit. | 0:38:22 | 0:38:27 | |
Island boss Chris Blackwell decided to refresh her sound, | 0:38:27 | 0:38:31 | |
and teamed her up with two of his biggest reggae artists, Sly & Robbie. | 0:38:31 | 0:38:35 | |
WORDLESS, A CAPELLA | 0:38:35 | 0:38:37 | |
Chris Blackwell sent a message saying he wanted to see us. | 0:38:40 | 0:38:43 | |
So I went by his apartment. So...he told us about this girl... | 0:38:44 | 0:38:48 | |
"She's a Jamaican. And she's a disco singer." | 0:38:48 | 0:38:50 | |
It was quite a different approach from what her disco records where. | 0:38:50 | 0:38:55 | |
But I thought...felt it could work. | 0:38:55 | 0:38:57 | |
The breakthrough came in 1980 with the album Nightclubbing, | 0:38:57 | 0:39:01 | |
which included the single... | 0:39:01 | 0:39:03 | |
# Pull up to the bumper, baby | 0:39:03 | 0:39:05 | |
# In your long, black, limousine... # | 0:39:05 | 0:39:08 | |
GRACE: 'They brought out my roots! My Jamaicanism. | 0:39:09 | 0:39:13 | |
And I believe that's when my voice... | 0:39:13 | 0:39:16 | |
felt the most at home. | 0:39:16 | 0:39:18 | |
I'm very superficial | 0:39:20 | 0:39:22 | |
I hate everything official... | 0:39:22 | 0:39:25 | |
She just CHANT the rhythm. It's the way she does it. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:28 | |
-Grace will, think, just... -Grace-style. -Grace-style, | 0:39:28 | 0:39:33 | |
like Robbie say. | 0:39:33 | 0:39:35 | |
# Private life - come on, baby Leave me out... # | 0:39:35 | 0:39:38 | |
Goude continued to experiment. | 0:39:38 | 0:39:40 | |
One minute Grace was white, | 0:39:40 | 0:39:43 | |
the next she was a man. | 0:39:43 | 0:39:44 | |
Jean-Paul's influence was...enormous. | 0:39:44 | 0:39:48 | |
The IMAGERY of Grace is really what "broke" Grace. | 0:39:48 | 0:39:52 | |
# Feeling like a woman | 0:39:52 | 0:39:54 | |
# Looking like a man... # | 0:39:55 | 0:39:58 | |
She EMBODIES "feeling like a woman, looking like a man." The androgynous feeling about her is very attractive | 0:39:58 | 0:40:05 | |
I have seen some of the most attractive men in the world | 0:40:05 | 0:40:09 | |
in relationships with her - Lundgren, for example. He was absolutely STUNNING - | 0:40:09 | 0:40:15 | |
And he had a very, very torrid relationship with her. | 0:40:15 | 0:40:20 | |
By now, Grace was in films playing powerful villains who could take on | 0:40:20 | 0:40:23 | |
any man - even James Bond. | 0:40:23 | 0:40:25 | |
But big-screen stardom wasn't what she expected. | 0:40:28 | 0:40:32 | |
Grace had itchy feet. | 0:40:33 | 0:40:35 | |
After doing the first big film, I realised there was so much time | 0:40:37 | 0:40:43 | |
and so much empty space - | 0:40:43 | 0:40:46 | |
always, you know, waiting to be called, and hurry-up-and-wait. | 0:40:46 | 0:40:52 | |
The long rounds of promotion made her even more restless. | 0:40:52 | 0:40:55 | |
She even took it out on Russell Harty on national TV. | 0:40:55 | 0:40:59 | |
Have you calmed yourself down? | 0:40:59 | 0:41:01 | |
Hmm...try me. | 0:41:01 | 0:41:02 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:41:02 | 0:41:04 | |
-No... -Did you have a late night last night? -No, | 0:41:04 | 0:41:08 | |
-I haven't slept in three days. -That explains it. | 0:41:08 | 0:41:11 | |
It's the beast in me. I don't know! It's just something in me that is impulsive. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:16 | |
I can't look at you... Uh-ah! | 0:41:16 | 0:41:17 | |
Now, hold... Hold on... | 0:41:17 | 0:41:20 | |
Don't, don't! | 0:41:20 | 0:41:22 | |
GRACE GIGGLES 'I just wanted some respect!' | 0:41:23 | 0:41:26 | |
INTRO PLAYS | 0:41:26 | 0:41:28 | |
Grace wanted to go back to music, where she felt she had more control. | 0:41:28 | 0:41:33 | |
Thank GOD...I've got the the music. Because in all that space, | 0:41:33 | 0:41:40 | |
I was writing music. | 0:41:41 | 0:41:43 | |
I think I would have gone crazy and I would've hated acting altogether | 0:41:43 | 0:41:49 | |
if I didn't have the music. | 0:41:49 | 0:41:51 | |
CROWD ROAR | 0:41:51 | 0:41:53 | |
Ladies and gentlemen... | 0:41:57 | 0:42:00 | |
Miss Grace Jones. | 0:42:00 | 0:42:02 | |
The music she was writing became her 1985 comeback album Slave To The Rhythm. | 0:42:03 | 0:42:08 | |
Grace is still a gay icon and a muse for top fashion designers. | 0:42:08 | 0:42:13 | |
And today she's also back in the studio with a new dance album. Another disco diva | 0:42:13 | 0:42:18 | |
who's gone back to her roots. | 0:42:18 | 0:42:20 | |
She marches to her own beat. That's for sure. | 0:42:20 | 0:42:24 | |
I think she's in a whole category by herself. I think... | 0:42:24 | 0:42:28 | |
She's the queen of her own universe. | 0:42:28 | 0:42:31 | |
And we're ALL her subjects! | 0:42:31 | 0:42:33 | |
# I'm everywoman... # | 0:42:38 | 0:42:41 | |
Our next queen was all woman. She could sing the hell out of anything | 0:42:41 | 0:42:45 | |
including disco. | 0:42:45 | 0:42:47 | |
Chaka Khan is our fiery queen of disco. | 0:42:47 | 0:42:49 | |
Chak-Chak-Chaka Khan... | 0:42:49 | 0:42:51 | |
Chaka Khan. | 0:42:51 | 0:42:52 | |
She was quite happy | 0:42:52 | 0:42:54 | |
for her records to become part of the disco sweep of the world. | 0:42:54 | 0:42:58 | |
But she wasn't defined by that. | 0:42:58 | 0:43:00 | |
You know, I just want to enjoy singing. | 0:43:00 | 0:43:03 | |
-SINATRA: -# Chicago, Chicago... # | 0:43:03 | 0:43:09 | |
Yvette Marie Stevens, as she was then, grew up in Chicago, | 0:43:09 | 0:43:12 | |
a city celebrated for all kinds of music. | 0:43:12 | 0:43:16 | |
# I love it! # | 0:43:16 | 0:43:17 | |
We could go down to State Street any given night and hear some of the most amazing, | 0:43:17 | 0:43:22 | |
best, and well-known "old blues" bands. | 0:43:22 | 0:43:25 | |
My first influences were jazz singers, and then I branched off, | 0:43:27 | 0:43:33 | |
never just into one kind of music. | 0:43:33 | 0:43:35 | |
Unlike our other queens, it was popular music, not church music that inspired her to sing. | 0:43:35 | 0:43:40 | |
I had no training. The closest I ever had was when I was in school. | 0:43:40 | 0:43:45 | |
And I was in a choir. | 0:43:45 | 0:43:47 | |
I was always in a band or a group from the time I was 13 years old. | 0:43:47 | 0:43:51 | |
They used to call me "Little Aretha". I couldn't be in the background, I had to be in front! | 0:43:51 | 0:43:56 | |
I think, maybe, cos I did have the best voice, too. | 0:43:56 | 0:43:59 | |
She briefly linked up with the radical political group the Black Panthers. | 0:43:59 | 0:44:03 | |
We want black power. | 0:44:03 | 0:44:05 | |
And she took an African name, Chaka, which means "woman of fire". | 0:44:05 | 0:44:10 | |
But by '72, she was back into singing with the established multi-racial funk band Rufus. | 0:44:10 | 0:44:15 | |
# Once you get started... # | 0:44:15 | 0:44:18 | |
There was nobody that had a sound like Rufus. The band was tight, | 0:44:18 | 0:44:24 | |
but to add to that was this woman. It seemed she came out of nowhere. | 0:44:24 | 0:44:27 | |
Chaka Khan, with all this energy, all this character. | 0:44:27 | 0:44:31 | |
# Everybody party hearty And get back in the groove... # | 0:44:31 | 0:44:36 | |
She was the flashpoint, she was the centre, she was just IT on that stage. | 0:44:36 | 0:44:41 | |
With Chaka on board, Rufus was soon in the charts. But they were billed as "Rufus featuring Chaka Khan". | 0:44:41 | 0:44:48 | |
It was inevitable she'd be offered a solo contract. | 0:44:48 | 0:44:52 | |
She knew the importance and the value to her career of an anthem, of a defining song. | 0:44:52 | 0:44:57 | |
# I'm every woman | 0:44:57 | 0:45:00 | |
# It's all in me... # | 0:45:00 | 0:45:03 | |
With a little help from 14-year-old Whitney Houston on backing vocals, | 0:45:03 | 0:45:08 | |
her first solo hit in '78 became a disco anthem. | 0:45:08 | 0:45:11 | |
Actually, the song kind of wrote itself, and then we realised | 0:45:11 | 0:45:15 | |
it should be her singing it! | 0:45:15 | 0:45:18 | |
That dance beat is pretty powerful. And you always need a big voice. | 0:45:18 | 0:45:21 | |
# I can make a rhyme of confusion in your mind... # | 0:45:21 | 0:45:25 | |
When we heard her voice on it, we said, "yes!" It's like, some things you just know. | 0:45:25 | 0:45:30 | |
And it was just very clearly, I think, ahit record. | 0:45:30 | 0:45:34 | |
# I'm every woman | 0:45:34 | 0:45:36 | |
# It's all in me... # | 0:45:36 | 0:45:38 | |
When you hear her sing about a powerful woman, you look at her | 0:45:38 | 0:45:41 | |
and go, "No, she's talking about what she's LIVING. | 0:45:41 | 0:45:44 | |
It's a little like Gloria Gaynor's "I Will Survive". | 0:45:44 | 0:45:47 | |
It's very liberating for women. EVERY woman at some point in their life has said, | 0:45:47 | 0:45:51 | |
"I'm every woman!" | 0:45:51 | 0:45:53 | |
You look at Chaka Khan, you know she's a woman who calls her own shots, who doesn't do anything | 0:45:53 | 0:45:57 | |
she doesn't think is right. When she sings these songs, you believe it. | 0:45:57 | 0:46:01 | |
# I'm every woman | 0:46:01 | 0:46:04 | |
# It's all in me... # | 0:46:04 | 0:46:07 | |
# Anything you want done, baby... # She's like a vocal acrobat. She can do so many things. | 0:46:07 | 0:46:12 | |
"I'm Every Woman established Chaka as a disco diva. But there was one slight problem. | 0:46:17 | 0:46:24 | |
The band, Rufus, still had a contractual commitment to the record company. They had to fulfil that. | 0:46:24 | 0:46:30 | |
But at the same time, she was gonna go off and do her solo thing. | 0:46:30 | 0:46:33 | |
So there was a certain amount of music-industry politics involved. | 0:46:33 | 0:46:37 | |
Despite a huge bust-up, Chaka had to agree to do one more album with Rufus - | 0:46:37 | 0:46:43 | |
not in the studio, but live on stage. | 0:46:43 | 0:46:46 | |
# Oh, oh, oh OOOH... | 0:46:46 | 0:46:47 | |
-# Nobody! -Nobody... # | 0:46:47 | 0:46:51 | |
It was still a dynamic record. | 0:46:51 | 0:46:54 | |
And produced, yes, that most enduring of her hits from that period, "Ain't Nobody". | 0:46:54 | 0:46:58 | |
# ..Nobody, baby... # | 0:46:58 | 0:47:01 | |
But within months, her solo career was back on track with another number one hit. | 0:47:01 | 0:47:05 | |
# Hey! I feel for you | 0:47:05 | 0:47:08 | |
# I think I lo-ove you... # | 0:47:09 | 0:47:11 | |
But behind the scenes, Chaka was struggling. | 0:47:11 | 0:47:14 | |
Chaka had a bad drug problem | 0:47:14 | 0:47:16 | |
that dogged her over a couple of decades. | 0:47:16 | 0:47:19 | |
It distracted her from her artistry. | 0:47:19 | 0:47:22 | |
And she could have done so much more with her life and career. | 0:47:22 | 0:47:25 | |
# Chaka Khan, let me rock you Let me rock you, Chaka Khan | 0:47:25 | 0:47:27 | |
# Let me rock you That's all I wanna do | 0:47:27 | 0:47:30 | |
# Chaka Khan, let me rock you cos I feel for you... # | 0:47:30 | 0:47:34 | |
If she'd managed to keep her personal life together, she should've been | 0:47:34 | 0:47:38 | |
the...sort of inheritor, the successor of Aretha Franklin. | 0:47:38 | 0:47:42 | |
# ..feel for you... # | 0:47:42 | 0:47:45 | |
# I'm every woman... # | 0:47:45 | 0:47:47 | |
"I'm Every Woman" remains one of the biggest disco anthems, but Chaka made it so much her own | 0:47:47 | 0:47:52 | |
that only another diva like Whitney Houston would ever dare to cover it. | 0:47:52 | 0:47:57 | |
And even the most powerful woman in TV wanted it as "her song". | 0:47:57 | 0:48:02 | |
Oprah called on the telephone and says, "You know, Val, I really could hear that song as my theme song." | 0:48:02 | 0:48:08 | |
For the Oprah show. I says, "You know, Oprah, I could really hear that too!" | 0:48:08 | 0:48:13 | |
And she went on and made it her theme song for two years, so we were really happy about that. | 0:48:13 | 0:48:19 | |
Chaka herself though, moved on. | 0:48:21 | 0:48:24 | |
She's done soul, blues and jazz, keeping her at the top of her game. | 0:48:24 | 0:48:28 | |
It kind of moved through disco and kept on going. | 0:48:29 | 0:48:33 | |
Even after disco had sort of disappeared, she was still a force in black music. | 0:48:33 | 0:48:39 | |
SHE SCAT-SINGS | 0:48:39 | 0:48:42 | |
She constantly changed her sound, evolved and changed. | 0:48:42 | 0:48:46 | |
I consider myself a fusion artist. I love mixing stuff all together. | 0:48:51 | 0:48:55 | |
# Oh, oh, oh, o-oh! | 0:48:55 | 0:48:58 | |
-# Ain't nobody -Ain't nobody -Does it better -Does it better... # | 0:48:58 | 0:49:02 | |
I mean, I just want to enjoy singing! | 0:49:02 | 0:49:06 | |
Chaka did disco when disco was hot, and when disco was finished, | 0:49:08 | 0:49:12 | |
they went on and did whatever was happening. Chaka's doing her thing | 0:49:12 | 0:49:15 | |
NOW. Disco's been done for a while, but Chaka's not. | 0:49:15 | 0:49:18 | |
July 1978. The disco boom is at its peak. | 0:49:21 | 0:49:25 | |
But it's now more Saturday Night Fever than "I Will Survive". | 0:49:25 | 0:49:28 | |
And just when disco was about to die on its arse, | 0:49:28 | 0:49:33 | |
an ambitious young Italian-American arrived in New York. | 0:49:33 | 0:49:37 | |
Her career would encompass and transcend | 0:49:37 | 0:49:39 | |
all the queens who went before her. | 0:49:39 | 0:49:41 | |
She would become an enduring global superstar | 0:49:41 | 0:49:44 | |
who's come back again and again to disco. Who's that girl? | 0:49:44 | 0:49:48 | |
Madonna, of course, the queen of reinvention. | 0:49:48 | 0:49:51 | |
I came to new York to be a dancer. | 0:49:54 | 0:49:57 | |
And I came to dance in a company, professionally. | 0:49:57 | 0:50:01 | |
She was determined to make an impression. She came in one Saturday | 0:50:01 | 0:50:06 | |
with a sweater which was cut WAY down to the back | 0:50:06 | 0:50:11 | |
and held together with a safety pin | 0:50:11 | 0:50:14 | |
about a foot wide. | 0:50:14 | 0:50:16 | |
And off of one shoulder. Now, she was about 16½ or 17. | 0:50:16 | 0:50:20 | |
And I looked at her back and I thought, "That girl will do something some day." | 0:50:20 | 0:50:26 | |
In new York, | 0:50:26 | 0:50:27 | |
everybody was doing disco. So Madonna had to be different. | 0:50:27 | 0:50:31 | |
She was not doing dance music at that time, | 0:50:31 | 0:50:34 | |
but working on other kinds of sounds. More rock'n'roll influenced. | 0:50:34 | 0:50:39 | |
She said, "I have two friends here from Michigan. And they're writing some rock songs." | 0:50:39 | 0:50:47 | |
"And I'd like to be a rock singer," she said one day, and I thought... | 0:50:47 | 0:50:51 | |
"Fine." You know. I didn't believe one word of this! | 0:50:51 | 0:50:54 | |
A rock'n'roll rebel wasn't what record companies were looking for. | 0:50:54 | 0:50:58 | |
And there were more pressing matters like paying the bills. | 0:50:58 | 0:51:02 | |
I went to an audition for... | 0:51:02 | 0:51:05 | |
a world tour for Patrick Hernandez. | 0:51:05 | 0:51:08 | |
Oh-h! Patrick Hernandez! | 0:51:08 | 0:51:11 | |
# Time was on my side when I was runnin' down the street... # | 0:51:11 | 0:51:15 | |
He was one of the biggest stars of euro-disco... | 0:51:15 | 0:51:18 | |
# A suitcase, a guitar... # | 0:51:18 | 0:51:20 | |
..and Madonna applied to be his backing dancer. | 0:51:20 | 0:51:23 | |
He was doing a world tour, looking for girls to do back-up singing and dancing...and go around the world, | 0:51:23 | 0:51:29 | |
and I thought that'd be great. | 0:51:29 | 0:51:31 | |
She said, "We made the audition, and I'm going to Paris next week." | 0:51:31 | 0:51:36 | |
And I never saw her after that. | 0:51:36 | 0:51:39 | |
# ..Good to be alive... # | 0:51:39 | 0:51:42 | |
They told Madonna at that time that what they planned to do was have her be a part of a troupe, or a review, | 0:51:42 | 0:51:50 | |
and then pull her out of it | 0:51:50 | 0:51:52 | |
and mould her into a Donna Summer type of entertainer. | 0:51:52 | 0:51:56 | |
"Hmm... | 0:51:56 | 0:51:57 | |
"I mean, I have to think about this." | 0:51:57 | 0:51:59 | |
..Any time anybody's ever wanted to mould Madonna into anything, it's always been unsuccessful. | 0:51:59 | 0:52:04 | |
They didn't really know what to do with me, and they were busy with Patrick. I just got really impatient. | 0:52:04 | 0:52:09 | |
I came back to New York after six months. | 0:52:09 | 0:52:12 | |
But while she'd been away, something had changed. | 0:52:12 | 0:52:17 | |
# Disco, disco rock... # | 0:52:17 | 0:52:20 | |
# If you want my body And you think I'm sexy... # | 0:52:21 | 0:52:25 | |
# Oo-ooh OO-ooh oo-oo-oo Oo-ooh OO-ooh oo-oo-oo... # | 0:52:25 | 0:52:28 | |
The charts had been flooded with a load of old disco tosh. | 0:52:28 | 0:52:31 | |
# Enough is enough is enough...! # | 0:52:31 | 0:52:34 | |
The great American public could take no more. In 1979, | 0:52:34 | 0:52:38 | |
chanting "Disco sucks!" | 0:52:38 | 0:52:40 | |
fans of old fashioned rock'n'roll gathered at Comiskey Baseball Stadium in Chicago | 0:52:40 | 0:52:44 | |
and blew up a massive pile of disco records. | 0:52:44 | 0:52:48 | |
Disco was officially over... in the mainstream, at least. | 0:52:49 | 0:52:53 | |
And anything which was out of favour with the mainstream was OK with our rebel princess. | 0:52:53 | 0:52:59 | |
# ..Enough is enough is enough! # | 0:52:59 | 0:53:00 | |
When she came back from France, then she really started dealing seriously in dance music, | 0:53:00 | 0:53:06 | |
and she started making demos and shopping demos of songs that WERE dance songs. | 0:53:06 | 0:53:12 | |
In New York, the underground club scene was still going strong, though nobody dared call it disco any more. | 0:53:12 | 0:53:18 | |
People were moving quickly away from that term "disco" to "club music", | 0:53:18 | 0:53:22 | |
a phrase being used as a substitute and a camouflage. | 0:53:22 | 0:53:26 | |
And the music was evolving out of what was traditionally disco | 0:53:26 | 0:53:30 | |
into other forms. And that's when you had all those different things going on. Madonna was part of that. | 0:53:30 | 0:53:37 | |
Madonna went around giving everybody her tapes. | 0:53:37 | 0:53:40 | |
She was trying to get a break. | 0:53:40 | 0:53:42 | |
She was the kind of woman, at that time, who would do anything that she needed to do to make it. | 0:53:42 | 0:53:47 | |
But Madonna would make her own decisions about who she wanted to work with. | 0:53:47 | 0:53:52 | |
I first Met Madonna when I was the DJ of The Fun House in New York. | 0:53:52 | 0:53:56 | |
And she came in | 0:53:56 | 0:53:57 | |
with a record company representative | 0:53:57 | 0:54:00 | |
full of energy, | 0:54:00 | 0:54:02 | |
happy to be in the place. Walked right into my DJ booth, stood there, | 0:54:02 | 0:54:06 | |
and introduced herself. | 0:54:06 | 0:54:07 | |
Madonna's first record deal was with the dance label Sire, and her music was aimed directly at the clubbers. | 0:54:07 | 0:54:14 | |
She was all ready to go. There was only one place to launch herself. | 0:54:14 | 0:54:18 | |
Studio 54, a private party for the 15th anniversary of Fiorucci. | 0:54:18 | 0:54:23 | |
In this Fiorucci event at Studio, she performed one of the first times ever | 0:54:23 | 0:54:28 | |
I actually booked Madonna to be THE star of the evening. | 0:54:28 | 0:54:33 | |
And my boss Fiorucci didn't want nothing to do with it. | 0:54:33 | 0:54:37 | |
Because she was completely unknown to the public. | 0:54:37 | 0:54:40 | |
And they wanted Jennifer Beals from Flashdance because Flashdance had just came out. | 0:54:40 | 0:54:45 | |
# What a feelin'...! # | 0:54:45 | 0:54:47 | |
I said, "No, Madonna, Madon..." And they were like, "Blah, well, hmm." | 0:54:47 | 0:54:53 | |
# Everybody Come on dance and sing... # | 0:54:53 | 0:54:56 | |
I had a huge cake made out in rubber, and Madonna popped out of the cake and...jumped! | 0:54:56 | 0:55:03 | |
I remember her singing at Studio - very fabulous. | 0:55:03 | 0:55:07 | |
# ..Do your thing... # | 0:55:08 | 0:55:10 | |
But that night, I almost could see a switch, because everybody was gagging over her. | 0:55:10 | 0:55:16 | |
Grace was there looking at her, and everybody was there. | 0:55:16 | 0:55:20 | |
Madonna's early hits, like "Everybody" in 1982, | 0:55:20 | 0:55:24 | |
surfaced in the dance charts, not the pop charts. | 0:55:24 | 0:55:28 | |
She was very clear in wanting to keep a very credible club base | 0:55:28 | 0:55:32 | |
but at the same time, have a record that would have pop appeal. | 0:55:32 | 0:55:36 | |
So the next step was to cross over into pop. | 0:55:36 | 0:55:39 | |
To do it, she turned back to disco and recruited the man behind classic disco group Chic. | 0:55:39 | 0:55:45 | |
Music was on the cusp of changing | 0:55:45 | 0:55:48 | |
from old-school to new-school. And I was still part of the OLD school. | 0:55:48 | 0:55:52 | |
# Le Freak, c'est chic...! # | 0:55:52 | 0:55:54 | |
Madonna was much more "new school" | 0:55:54 | 0:55:56 | |
in going to the techno based dance music. | 0:55:56 | 0:56:00 | |
# Holida-ay! | 0:56:00 | 0:56:01 | |
# celebra-ate...! # | 0:56:04 | 0:56:05 | |
By the time "Holiday" came along in 1984, disco had been out of favour for four years. | 0:56:05 | 0:56:10 | |
The music had been a bit... well, boring. | 0:56:10 | 0:56:13 | |
When Madonna arrived, people could dance and party again. | 0:56:13 | 0:56:18 | |
CROWD ROAR Good to see you, Australia! | 0:56:20 | 0:56:23 | |
Are you ready? LOUD CHEER | 0:56:25 | 0:56:28 | |
Madonna is the ultimate embodiment of disco | 0:56:28 | 0:56:32 | |
and, as she reinvented herself and her music, | 0:56:32 | 0:56:35 | |
she's always remained true, | 0:56:35 | 0:56:37 | |
keeping a finger firmly on the pulse | 0:56:37 | 0:56:39 | |
of clubs, fashions and sex. | 0:56:39 | 0:56:43 | |
And that's why | 0:56:43 | 0:56:44 | |
she's STILL a global superstar. | 0:56:44 | 0:56:46 | |
# Every little thing that you say do # I'm hung up, hung up on you... # | 0:56:54 | 0:57:01 | |
Her instincts for dance music, which are crucial for a pop artist, | 0:57:01 | 0:57:05 | |
all comes from direct observation, of being a club dancer, | 0:57:05 | 0:57:10 | |
of knowing DJs, of watching crowds... | 0:57:10 | 0:57:12 | |
And the way that you learn from disco. | 0:57:12 | 0:57:14 | |
# ..Time goes by...so slowly | 0:57:14 | 0:57:17 | |
# Time goes by | 0:57:17 | 0:57:19 | |
# So slowly... # | 0:57:20 | 0:57:21 | |
She's one of those artists who never forgot | 0:57:21 | 0:57:25 | |
about the audience that got her to where she is - never forgot. | 0:57:25 | 0:57:29 | |
But it's not just Queen Madge who's at it. | 0:57:29 | 0:57:33 | |
Disco is still all around us, | 0:57:33 | 0:57:36 | |
and all thanks to those original queens of disco. | 0:57:36 | 0:57:39 | |
' Every little thing that you say do I'm hung up, hung up on you | 0:57:39 | 0:57:44 | |
# Waiting for your call Baby night and day | 0:57:44 | 0:57:48 | |
# I'm fed up I'm tired of waiting on you | 0:57:48 | 0:57:52 | |
# Ring, ring, ring Goes the telephone | 0:57:52 | 0:57:56 | |
# The light's on but there's no-one home | 0:57:56 | 0:58:00 | |
# Tick, tick, tock It's a quarter to two | 0:58:00 | 0:58:03 | |
# I'm done I'm hanging up on you... # | 0:58:03 | 0:58:06 | |
"Disco..." | 0:58:07 | 0:58:09 | |
the word changes, but the dance still goes on. | 0:58:09 | 0:58:12 |