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A lot of people wonder, "What is the blues?"

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I'm gonna tell you what the blues is.

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This programme contains some strong language.

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This is the story of an unlikely love affair, that was awakened, innocently enough,

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in the drabness of '50s Britain,

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but by the '70s, had blossomed into a global passion.

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From its origins as a secret society, all the way to the international stage,

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this is what happened when Britain got the blues.

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'50s Britain - a bombed-out country marked by austerity,

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demob suits, and dreams of better times to come.

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A generation of post-war kids found itself stranded

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in the dust-covered landscape of national reconstruction.

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Yeah, it was grey.

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Like, "When the hell are we gonna get out of here?

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"I thought we won?!"

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Bloody awful. You couldn't get any sweets, either.

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We were on rationing, baby, big time.

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There was no colour whatsoever in Britain.

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Glasgow didn't exist, there was just a sort of grey wash.

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You kept bumping into things cos you couldn't see anything.

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Dark at 4 o'clock, Ovaltine, all that stuff.

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There was nowhere for young people to go, um...

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There was nothing specifically for young people.

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Everything was run by pretty strict rules and regulations by the establishment.

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They were very depressing days.

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Musically, the antidote was obvious.

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Dance bands and crooners provided all the entertainment the country could consume,

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in its dogged determination to make whoopee.

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But not everyone sought solace in the two-step.

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Britain by about 1953-54, was crying out for alternative music.

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The first rock'n'roll wasn't about till about '55, '56, was it?

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Before that, it was gutless music.

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# Lipstick on your collar Told a tale on you... #

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The guts of American rock'n'roll spilled out across Britain in 1957,

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creating the teenage phenomenon.

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But two years later, the emotional and musical rescue it offered prematurely stalled.

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The business had moved in, and the greats had shipped out,

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leaving Britain at the mercy of Tin Pan Alley copyists.

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Elvis went into the army, Jerry Lee Lewis ruined his career

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by marrying his 12-year-old first cousin whilst still married to someone else.

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Chuck Berry crossed over the border and did various borderline activities,

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and Little Richard went into gospel.

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Rock and roll lost its... Well, I suppose really, lost its excitement.

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Watered-down trash, a lot of it, wasn't it?

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Moon In June and Lipstick On Your Collar,

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and all these, "Lipstick on your collar," you know, horrible.

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# Travelling light Mmm-hmm-hmm-hmm... #

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Rock'n'roll's earlier doctors now needed a new drug.

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They discovered the power, depth and authenticity they craved in a music they hadn't heard before,

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the very basis of rock'n'roll -

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black folk music from the American South -

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the blues.

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The intensity and the... It's so direct.

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You know, I hadn't experienced anything like that since the first time I heard Little Richard.

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# I got my mojo working But it just don't work on you... #

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It bypasses a lot of cultural education.

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You didn't need any information with the blues, it just went...

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Boom!

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# I wanna love you so bad... #

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It can be to dance for, get drunk for it,

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to fuck by it, you name it.

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# I'm going down Louisiana Get me a mojo... #

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When it's well put and well performed, it's infectious.

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You don't need to know, even,

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what it is. You go... That's how people get hooked.

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# I'm gonna have all you womens Right here on my command... #

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I think that once you get the bug, it's really hard to get rid of it.

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Catching the bug was one thing, but feeding it was another.

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Specialist shops selling imported American recordings began to appear.

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Many of them, mysteriously, in what became known as the Thames Delta,

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Britain's distant echo of the American South.

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Future British blues artists Tony McPhee, Dave Kelly and his sister, Jo Ann Kelly,

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haunted the Swing Shop, in Streatham.

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# When you get home

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# Please write me a few short lines... #

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That was one thing that really got to me.

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That so many people are interested more

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in how rare this thing was, rather than what was on it.

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# Please write me a few short lines... #

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That's where I got all my John Lee Hooker and Howlin' Wolf on Crown,

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which was 1940s stuff,

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Wolf's stuff on...

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And Jo Ann, myself, and Tony McPhee used to hang around the Swing Shop

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waiting for another consignment to come in, elbowing each other out the way.

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There was a shop in what is now Chinatown in Soho,

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but at that time,

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it was a street of shops selling valves and ex-Army spares.

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You know you have this picture of, sort of,

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men in long raincoats wandering round Soho?

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These were men in long raincoats who'd be standing looking in the window

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at cathode ray tubes and valves and diodes,

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and on a Saturday, in the basement of one of these shops, a guy started importing records.

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There was something very attractive about the fact that

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large numbers, huge numbers of people

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wanted to listen to Bill Haley, and Tommy Steele,

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but that we wanted to listen to Howlin' Wolf and Little Walter.

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Jelly Roll Morton and Lightnin' Slim. I mean, extraordinary names, too.

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I mean, how crazy is that? You know...

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Howlin' Wolf. What is a howling wolf when you live in Surbiton?

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And you thought, "God, how can anybody be called Muddy Waters, or Howlin' Wolf, or Bo Diddley,

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"or Lead Belly?" Where did these names come from?

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What is this? It was a feeling.

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# And then I looked around... #

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But what were these songs about?

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Old 78s, often poorly recorded on the road,

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telling of experiences and feelings that were totally alien to the Thames Delta,

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were sometimes difficult to comprehend.

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Those of us who struggled, like The Rolling Stones probably did a few years before we did,

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to try and decipher the words,

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and couldn't figure out what some of them were from these recordings,

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we would, kind of, make up other words that seemed to fit.

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What did he say? Ha-ha-ha...

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INAUDIBLE SPEECH

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I didn't quite get that, didn't really jot that down, you know what I mean? There was madness.

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Yeah, lyrics were sometimes difficult. And we found that with Little Richard, as well.

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My mother tried to slow the record down to try and hear what he was saying,

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and couldn't work it out.

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She used to come up with some funny ideas about what they were.

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But, yes, yeah, eventually your ear tunes in.

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But when they did tune in, what they heard was often darkly humorous, and emotionally deep.

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Poetic tales of lives untouched by either lipstick, or collars.

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The main charm about the blues

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is that it has such an authenticity about it,

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the fact that when you listen to it you hear these stories,

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and you can visualise that these are real stories.

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When you were seeing John Lee Hooker, you believed what he was telling you

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cos he was talking about the Great Fire of Natchez, which he experienced.

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I think his girlfriend died there.

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And the flood of Tupelo, Mississippi, they were real things that happened in his life.

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I mean, Joe Turner, for instance, is a big favourite of mine.

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And he'd be singing things like, "My baby's gone, she ain't comin' back.

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"She's lower than a snake crawling down in a wagon track."

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I mean, it's so heavy! You think, "What a great image," you know.

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Elmore James, "The sky is crying, look at the tears rolling down the streets."

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I mean, that's fantastic.

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Muddy Waters, "I'm going down to Louisiana, somewhere behind the sun."

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This is magical stuff.

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It's almost like, Sleepy John Estes,

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where he says, "Get away from my window Quit scratching on my screen."

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He's turned his girlfriend into, sort of, a wild animal, kind of ripping on the door, you know?

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If you were a 15 or 16-year-old kid, you were hearing some words, and phrases and implications...

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And that's what made it, not just sexy, I think it made it kind of erotic.

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Cos we knew, sort of, there's something going on here,

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even if we didn't know the references and the slang expressions.

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These blues men, they're talking about getting laid.

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And there's me studying what they're doing,

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but I ain't getting laid. I've something missing in my life.

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Obviously, to be a blues man, I have to go see what this lemon juice is, running down your leg.

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And, you know, these guys are actually living a life,

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they're not studying, they're not blah-blah, they just are.

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And then, so... How do you become what is?

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Being a blues disciple in late '50s Britain

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was like being a part of a hip Masonic Lodge.

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A society so secret that even its own members were sometimes ignorant of each other's existence.

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It was like the formation of a solar system, you know.

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The dust gathers together, the stars form, and all that sort of thing.

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Suddenly you realise, yes, there is someone who lives near you who's got a record by Freddie King,

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or someone like that, you know?

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If you heard someone blew a harmonica in Ealing, you were there.

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Or if someone had an album that you didn't, you'd go to Claygate, or wherever it was.

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It was like Night Of The Living Dead,

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people, sort of, migrating to whoever had this thing that you'd been turned on to.

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Someone had given me the address of someone who'd got a Muddy Waters album.

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Probably got the bus over to Tooting.

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And I knocked on the door at 6:30 in the evening,

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and this guy appears from the back and I said, "Have you got a Muddy Waters album?"

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He said, "Yeah..."

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I said, "Could I see it?"

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And he brought it out and showed it to me, and I said, "Could I hold it?"

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Some very funny people with record collections.

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The things you'd have to do to get in, you know what I mean...

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Let alone get out.

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It was like, "Oh, you've got that?" Or, "You've got this, I'll come round and listen to it."

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We didn't have tape recorders then, so you went round and listened to it.

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I knew Brian Jones, but he mostly bought guitar records.

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Whereas I mostly bought harmonica records.

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So we would share listening to them.

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Brian Jones, big collector. Big record collector.

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And that's one of the reasons I hit on him in the first place.

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They were definitely our versions of Tupperware meetings.

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Yeah, you'd stick guys up, if you found their record collection.

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"You are going to stay down there, right now, while I trawl through..."

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Like, it got like that, you know what I mean?

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Oddly enough, for a younger generation in love with the blues, Britain was the perfect place to be.

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Trad jazz, which also originated from the Southern states of America,

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had stormed the UK in the late '50s.

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But popular trombonist and band leader, Chris Barber, had a passion for the blues as well.

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He was fortunate to have a successful band,

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and to be in a position financially

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where he could do what he wanted to do.

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And so he did what he wanted, which was to bring over blues and gospel performance.

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You know, some people sit back and wait for things to happen, wait for the right time,

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but he just said, "To hell with that, I'm gonna do it."

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Big names in American blues and R&B, he brought them all over to this country.

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I think '57 was the first, with Sister Rosetta Tharpe,

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and then Muddy Waters in '58, Sonny Terry, Brownie McGhee in '58,

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and going on right into the '60s, he brought Muddy back again, Howlin' Wolf,

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Sonny Boy Williamson, Lewis Jordan, all kinds, I mean, just...

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for him, it was just that he wanted to play with those people.

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He wanted to hear them, right there, you know, playing in front of HIS rhythm section.

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That's why we wanted to get in with the real folk.

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They were helping us to play the blues and jazz better.

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We want these people to help give us the ingredient that we know about,

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but we aren't sure if we're getting it right, we want to get it righter.

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When the legends of American blues first stepped out onto the British stage in the late '50s,

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thanks to Barber's own money and determination,

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the audience that faced them was entirely white, well-educated and well intentioned.

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It was all shirts and ties and Ban The Bomb badges.

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Jazz and folk disciples, not rabid rock and rollers.

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To be honest, there was always a sort of middle class-ness about that sort of audience,

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and they also tended to come out of a slightly left-wing side of politics.

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It must have helped that we were... I wouldn't say reverent,

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but we were obviously caring about playing the music in a genuine way,

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as a genuine expression.

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We really owe this enormous debt, to a music that is utterly alien to our experience.

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Maybe that's why it didn't appeal to black folks living in the UK at the time,

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because it wasn't the black experience that they knew of.

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Few black Americans settled in the UK. It was mostly people from Caribbean, or black Asians.

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The younger rock and roll audience wanted to sing the blues electric,

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something the more purist, Chris Barber Jazz Club crowd wasn't quite prepared for.

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But it was already a reality.

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When Muddy Waters first came to Britain in 1958,

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he plugged in a Fender Telecaster.

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Established audiences here,

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reared on out of date records and quaint ideas of the blues as a rural black folk music, were crestfallen.

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Some purists in the audience objected,

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because they wanted him to come out and sound like the country boy that they'd heard on records,

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you know, playing rural, cotton patch blues.

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GUITAR MUSIC PLAYS

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They had to consider what the audience wanted,

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so when they heard this cry for, "Where's the acoustic guitar?"

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Um, they went away and thought about it.

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So, like, two years go by and he comes back again, and he brings an acoustic guitar,

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by then everyone wants to hear him play the amplified Telecaster.

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Cos it's moved on, it's 1962, '63, and everyone's listening to that sort of music.

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Memphis Slim was on that bill, and I think I took them back to the hotel.

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Either I took them back in my car or we went back on the bus together.

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And I was sitting in the lounge of the hotel with Muddy and Memphis Slim,

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and Muddy was saying, "I don't know what they want. What do people want?"

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Certain English viewers had an idea that you had to be black and wear dungarees,

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and play acoustic guitar, and that meant you were playing blues.

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If you plugged it in.... No, no, I'm sorry, you've sinned.

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People in England had a certain stereotyped idea of what a black folk musician should be like.

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When you see pictures of Big Bill Broonzy in the '30s,

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and he is, he is just so sharp.

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He comes to England in the '50s, and there's this classic film clip of him dressed up as a sharecropper,

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playing his guitar and singing something like John Henry,

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because...this is what the white folks in England...

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# John Henry told his captain

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# Lord, a man ain't nothing but a man... #

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British television, home of The Black And White Minstrel Show,

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hadn't improved much by 1964,

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when it elaborately transformed a disused section of British Rail track outside Manchester

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into a TV producer's idea of Chattanooga to welcome the latest blues package tour.

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I remember some rather staged shot of Muddy Waters with his guitar in one hand

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and a very small leather suitcase walking along a station platform,

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and then bursting, probably, into some blues song rendition,

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which had been staged up, making him look like the travelling hobo kinda guy.

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# People ain't that sad... #

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Some of Britain's young blues fraternity weren't content with just listening to the music.

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They'd learned to play American rock'n'roll, why not the blues?

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That the music like this existed,

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that possibly, we would, in our audacity, think that we could actually play this music,

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I mean, how stupid is that? How extraordinary was that?

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You think of some dopey, spotty, 17-year-old from Dartford,

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who wants to be Muddy Waters.

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And there's a lot of us, you know.

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"Oh yeah, mmm-mmm, mmm-mmm," you know.

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In a way very pathetic. In a way, very heart-warming.

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Wanting to play the blues was one thing, mastering it was something else again.

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This black race music wasn't about to surrender its many secrets so easily

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to vinyl-obsessed British kids.

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# When you ain't got no money

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# And can't pay your house rent

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# And can't buy you no food

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# You damn sure got the blues

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# Cos you're thinkin' evil... #

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You know, they say blues is just 12 bars.

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You've heard one, you've heard... you know,

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guy ain't got no money, he's lost his girlfriend,

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he's at the railroad station waiting for the train, the train's late...

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Of course, of course, my man. You know the problems.

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It ain't like that at all.

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Once you start to play, you realise that it's something to do with... I gotta know how he did that.

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This man just bent the string three yards!

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And made it sound simple, you know...

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And meanwhile he's got a rhythm going here that is unbelievable,

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and he's...

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I mean it's just something you've got to do.

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Enjoying it is not enough. Feeling it is not enough.

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You've got to learn how to do it properly. There are technical things that you...

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To make these sounds come out of a guitar, or a trombone or whatever it is, or a voice, either,

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you've got to know how it is. So, you need to study it.

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Fast, slow, quiet, pin-drop, loud, poignant, down, up.

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# I say it's so hard to know...

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# Ah, someone... #

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That's the dynamic, in the framework of really three or four chords.

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With very little, so much was achieved, in the way it emotionally affected you.

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It's an easy music on the surface to play,

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but then you think, "How do these cats do this? Whoa, this is weird moves."

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You know, where's this coming from?

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You say, "What are they doing? How are they doing that?"

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It's what keyboard players were actually doing with crushed notes and stuff,

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which was in fact trying to duplicate the style of bent notes on the guitar,

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which, as you know, is a physical and mechanical impossibility

0:22:350:22:39

on a keyboard instrument.

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And while this revolution, I think, in music, was beginning to happen,

0:22:400:22:44

of course, as normal, the rest of the world seemed to carry on.

0:22:440:22:48

You know, the bowler-hatted brigade still got up and got the 7 o'clock train to Waterloo,

0:22:480:22:54

not knowing that some of their offspring were buying battered guitars from pawn shops,

0:22:540:23:01

and playing Jelly Roll Morton in the back room.

0:23:010:23:04

Perhaps no-one got to know these visiting blues legends more intimately than Val Wilmer,

0:23:090:23:13

then only a teenage girl in love with their music.

0:23:130:23:19

She met them, photographed them, wrote about them and hung out with them,

0:23:190:23:24

sharing their experience of Britain at close range.

0:23:240:23:28

They met with all sorts of problems here,

0:23:280:23:30

you know, the world was very strange.

0:23:300:23:32

You should be asking the question - how exotic did we seem to them?

0:23:320:23:36

They had to deal with us, and we didn't understand their language,

0:23:360:23:41

you know, we thought we did.

0:23:410:23:42

This one is me with Jimmy Rushing,

0:23:430:23:47

he was Mr 5x5 You know, five foot tall, five foot wide.

0:23:470:23:51

Wonderful singer, great guy, wrote to me a few times... Nice one, you know, to have known him a bit.

0:23:510:23:56

And that was taken by my mother, who had come to the concert with me.

0:23:560:24:02

And that's my mum with Jack Dupree.

0:24:030:24:06

When he put his arm around her, it must have been quite an experience for her, cos he was a rogue.

0:24:060:24:12

Total rogue. Look at him. Mr Rogue.

0:24:120:24:17

It was a shock to me when I first come over here,

0:24:170:24:20

when they take me to a big restaurant for dinner,

0:24:200:24:24

and I couldn't eat the dinner cos I was sitting next to white people.

0:24:240:24:27

And I was shy all the time, I had a terrible feeling because I...

0:24:270:24:32

I was thinking that I'd be insulted at any time.

0:24:320:24:35

I just felt out of place.

0:24:350:24:38

When in London, Dupree often stayed at the evocative sounding Airways Mansions,

0:24:410:24:46

a hotel in a small backstreet just behind Piccadilly, but a million miles away from the Ritz.

0:24:460:24:52

Airways Mansions was the place where all the musicians stayed.

0:24:530:24:58

And I think they'd been staying there from the '50s.

0:24:580:25:01

But the thing was it wasn't like hotels,

0:25:010:25:04

because the hotels tried to stop people taking guests to their rooms,

0:25:040:25:11

and that always created havoc, because black people thought that it was discrimination.

0:25:110:25:16

So, Memphis Slim, there, with his little curtain and everything,

0:25:160:25:21

and the bottle of whisky on it, you know, inevitably.

0:25:210:25:24

And Jack Dupree, who was the first person I knew who stayed there -

0:25:240:25:29

he's only just arrived, and both of them - Memphis Slim and Jack -

0:25:290:25:33

they've been to Cecil Gee's and bought sweaters.

0:25:330:25:37

And on the shelf behind him he's got his requisites for the day.

0:25:370:25:41

He's got some bottles of lager,

0:25:410:25:45

three different types of whisky,

0:25:450:25:47

and the bottle of milk is not for his health,

0:25:470:25:50

it's to mix with whisky, cos that lines your stomach.

0:25:500:25:53

So, that's one thing I learned from a lot of the old blues singers, was drinking whisky and milk.

0:25:530:25:58

By the early '60s, the younger generation of electric blues fanatics had their own scene.

0:26:010:26:07

The epicentre of which was Blues Incorporated,

0:26:070:26:10

a band formed by guitarist Alexis Korner, and his unlikely harmonica playing partner.

0:26:100:26:16

Talk about chalk and cheese.

0:26:160:26:18

Alexis worked with a very, very gruff panel beater

0:26:180:26:24

from Streatham called Cyril Davies.

0:26:240:26:27

But Alexis Korner was this urbane, well-read, beautifully spoken, you know...

0:26:270:26:32

Of, sort of, Russian... Goodness knows what... And they were the most unlikely pair in a way.

0:26:320:26:39

Cyril had a great voice.

0:26:390:26:41

# I got my mojo working But it just won't work on you... #

0:26:410:26:47

He sounded really, really authentic.

0:26:470:26:49

# I got my mojo working But it just won't work on you... #

0:26:490:26:53

He sounded quite black-ish,

0:26:530:26:57

but there was a reality in the way he presented his voice.

0:26:570:27:01

So he was a key person. Apart from his harp playing, which was also very magic.

0:27:010:27:06

Alexis' main skill was not as a performer, neither as a guitarist nor as a singer.

0:27:090:27:15

But certainly as a catalyst,

0:27:150:27:17

Alexis was the most important person in the history of blues in Britain.

0:27:170:27:22

Alexis Korner established a home for young blues enthusiasts on the outskirts of London,

0:27:230:27:28

where the Central Line hit the buffers and the buses went to bed.

0:27:280:27:33

The Jazz Club in Ealing became THE performance space for would-be British players,

0:27:350:27:40

and a clearing house for the first home-grown rhythm and blues movement.

0:27:400:27:44

On a Saturday night,

0:27:480:27:49

you could see most of the people who would constitute the first British blues boom.

0:27:490:27:54

We were all hanging out, you know, and Alexis, bless him, would say,

0:27:540:27:59

"Come up and do two songs."

0:27:590:28:01

And you'd go up and you'd tell 'em all you had your mojo working and...

0:28:010:28:06

So, he was the father of blues in Britain.

0:28:080:28:13

Leaving the grandfather spot open for Chris Barber, of course.

0:28:130:28:18

A young Brian Jones played perhaps the first slide guitar ever to be heard in Britain at Korner's club

0:28:200:28:26

and very quickly tired of catching the coach in from Cheltenham.

0:28:260:28:30

The next thing I heard from Brian was when he rang me up and said,

0:28:300:28:33

"I'm forming a band.

0:28:330:28:36

"So far, it's just me and Keith Richards on guitars, do you want to be the singer?"

0:28:360:28:41

And I said, "No..."

0:28:410:28:45

He couched his invitation in these terms, he said,

0:28:470:28:50

"We haven't been taking it seriously.

0:28:500:28:52

"I'm going to take it seriously from now on.

0:28:520:28:54

"I'm moving to London, I'm getting a flat, I'm forming a band and I'm gonna become rich and famous."

0:28:540:28:59

And it was that last bit that I said, "Oh, Brian. Come off it. We're playing the blues, man."

0:28:590:29:05

At the beginning of 1963, British electric blues was still a hard sell to audiences outside of jazz clubs.

0:29:160:29:23

But by the end of that year, it had taken off big-time, spearheaded by Brian's group, The Rolling Stones.

0:29:230:29:31

We were the only young band doing it, and we were the only real authentic band doing it.

0:29:340:29:38

And doing it in jazz clubs.

0:29:380:29:41

And then we got banned, because they didn't like us - young upstarts.

0:29:410:29:45

And thought we weren't authentic enough, and were doing it too pop-y.

0:29:450:29:51

And then we moved into the ballrooms, and all that, and created a new music for England.

0:29:510:29:58

This first number we're gonna do's a John Lee Hooker original,

0:29:580:30:02

it's called Boom Boom, this one.

0:30:020:30:04

By 1964, British rhythm and blues

0:30:050:30:08

had hi-jacked every venue in the country.

0:30:080:30:10

It was THE live music.

0:30:170:30:19

The Stones, The Yardbirds, Manfred Mann, The Animals.

0:30:190:30:23

# The way you talk

0:30:230:30:25

# Whisper in my ear

0:30:260:30:27

# Tell me that you love me

0:30:290:30:30

# You knock me out... #

0:30:310:30:33

The Animals, a Newcastle-based band,

0:30:350:30:37

were part of a nationwide blues explosion.

0:30:370:30:40

London was Mecca,

0:30:410:30:42

but the blues could now be heard in every British city.

0:30:420:30:46

A young musician from Belfast, called Van Morrison,

0:30:460:30:49

pitched up at Soho's Marquee Club with his R'n'B band, Them.

0:30:490:30:53

# You better stop the things you do... #

0:30:560:30:58

Well, I listen to, um, Charles Mingus

0:30:580:31:01

and, uh, Gerry Mulligan.

0:31:010:31:03

I also listen to Lead Belly and John Lee Hooker.

0:31:050:31:08

Yeah, advanced jazz plus, you know, real down to earth blues.

0:31:090:31:13

-Heavy blues.

-Roots.

-Heavy roots, blues influence.

0:31:130:31:16

# You're runnin' around

0:31:160:31:20

# You should know better, Mama

0:31:200:31:21

# I can't stand it

0:31:220:31:24

# Since you put me down

0:31:250:31:27

# I put a spell on you... #

0:31:300:31:32

'Well let's hear that number now that's shooting up the charts called Little Red Rooster.'

0:31:360:31:41

SCREAMING

0:31:410:31:44

In November 1964, The Rolling Stones stamped a new teenage sexiness

0:31:460:31:50

on the blues with a hardcore Willie Dixon cover.

0:31:500:31:54

# I am the little red rooster

0:31:540:31:56

# Too lazy to crow for day... #

0:31:580:32:01

Now I must say,

0:32:010:32:02

we must have been wearing brass balls that day

0:32:020:32:04

when we decided to put that out as a single.

0:32:040:32:07

# I am the little red rooster

0:32:070:32:09

# Too lazy to crow for a day... #

0:32:100:32:14

Everybody says you'll kill your career if you do that,

0:32:140:32:16

if you put that out as a single.

0:32:160:32:18

It could ruin you.

0:32:180:32:19

We said, "What the hell? That's what we believe in."

0:32:200:32:23

# Keep everything in the farmyard

0:32:230:32:26

# Upset in every way... #

0:32:270:32:30

Oh. I mean, let's stand up, be men and give 'em a blues, you know.

0:32:310:32:36

Went out on a Friday night and on the Monday it was number one.

0:32:360:32:39

# The dogs begin to bark... #

0:32:390:32:41

That's the only blues, pure blues record,

0:32:430:32:45

that's ever been a number one.

0:32:450:32:47

Anywhere, I think.

0:32:470:32:49

Then it was our job to pay back.

0:32:490:32:53

# Dogs begin to bark... #

0:32:530:32:54

I think we figured we could pull it and we did.

0:32:540:32:56

# Hounds begin to howl. #

0:32:560:32:59

Double entendre again, you know,

0:32:590:33:01

"I got a little red rooster, too lazy to crow for days",

0:33:010:33:05

they saw into it more sexual things.

0:33:050:33:08

I'm not here just to write pop songs for you.

0:33:080:33:11

# Do-do-do, la-la-la-la-la... #

0:33:110:33:13

and all that, you know, I mean...

0:33:130:33:15

Let's see if we can actually spin it back around

0:33:160:33:19

and make American white kids

0:33:190:33:21

listen to Little Red Rooster.

0:33:210:33:24

And go, "Yeah, yeah, yeah."

0:33:240:33:25

And I go, "Aha, you had it all the time, pal."

0:33:250:33:29

Yeah, "You just didn't listen."

0:33:290:33:32

But not everyone was as reverential.

0:33:370:33:39

There were a lot of people who felt

0:33:400:33:42

you had to faithfully copy the record.

0:33:420:33:44

Um, which seemed to us to be pretty ludicrous.

0:33:440:33:47

You know, and if you did mess with it, you were considered

0:33:510:33:54

an irreligious punk.

0:33:540:33:56

I mean, I know we bastardised the 12 bar quite badly.

0:33:590:34:03

Um, and we put a lot of power chording in and crescendos.

0:34:030:34:07

But also feeding off an audience that wanted that as well.

0:34:110:34:14

They wanted to swing from the rafters,

0:34:140:34:16

they wanted to go crazy bananas.

0:34:160:34:19

# I caught a train, I met a dame

0:34:210:34:24

# She was a hipster, well and a real cool dame

0:34:240:34:26

# She was pretty, from New York City

0:34:260:34:28

# Well and we trucked on down that old Fairlane... #

0:34:280:34:32

I mean, we were 18, and the people who came to see us were 18.

0:34:320:34:36

They didn't wanna, you know, they wanted something with more energy.

0:34:360:34:40

So we did Big Boss Man three times the speed.

0:34:400:34:42

But, I mean, isn't that what the blues is as well?

0:34:420:34:45

I mean, that's, even when I saw it played, you know,

0:34:450:34:48

in ramshackle clubs in the Southern States of America,

0:34:480:34:52

you know, there was that same electricity.

0:34:520:34:55

I mean, we were white kids playing to white kids.

0:34:550:34:58

But actually, you know, I sense that there was still the same vibe going on,

0:34:580:35:02

all those thousands of miles apart.

0:35:020:35:04

They loved the music, they wanted to play it, they worked out how it did,

0:35:060:35:10

it came out differently, it will.

0:35:100:35:12

If I'm white and grow up in South London it's bound to be different.

0:35:130:35:17

It's a...what, you know, but...

0:35:170:35:20

Cyril Davies and everybody they were great, brilliant, but...

0:35:200:35:23

There was something missing though, wasn't there?

0:35:230:35:25

And it didn't connect with our age group.

0:35:250:35:27

Yeah, maybe, yeah.

0:35:270:35:29

Well, I really don't think it did, you know. It was something...

0:35:290:35:32

-It's almost like for a museum.

-Well, they were older.

0:35:320:35:34

-Yeah.

-They were older than us.

-And all the artists were older.

0:35:340:35:38

I mean, we were listening to records by 50-year-old blokes.

0:35:380:35:42

You know, and therefore why, there's no way we could have replicated that,

0:35:420:35:48

had it been enough.

0:35:480:35:49

In a frantic 12 months, ravenous white British blues bands

0:35:580:36:02

carved up and redistributed the black blues songbook.

0:36:020:36:06

The whole locker got raided very quickly, didn't it,

0:36:060:36:10

of blues songs.

0:36:100:36:12

I mean, how much of it was jumping on band wagons.

0:36:120:36:16

Dick Taylor, he used to play with us, I mean, I know that he was no jumper of bandwagons.

0:36:160:36:22

-Everybody had their...

-Repertoire.

-Their stock in trade.

0:36:220:36:26

And we avoided Smokestack Lightning or something cos the Yardies did it.

0:36:260:36:31

And, you know, Little Red Rooster cos the Stones did it.

0:36:310:36:34

But you picked your way around and came up with your own repertoire.

0:36:340:36:38

The Yardbirds followed us, they used to ask us questions all the time and say,

0:36:380:36:42

"What strings do you use?

0:36:420:36:44

"You know when you do that Little Walter song, how does the middle go?"

0:36:440:36:48

You know, and in the intervals they'd come and chat to us and ask all these questions.

0:36:480:36:53

We actually made a conscious decision that we weren't

0:36:530:36:56

going to play the sort of music The Rolling Stones were doing.

0:36:560:36:59

You know, and as far as The Animals up north,

0:36:590:37:01

that might have been another country, you know.

0:37:010:37:04

I mean you just, you just didn't really worry about that

0:37:040:37:07

or even necessarily relate to it.

0:37:070:37:08

I mean, yeah, we did learn our stuff though. We did learn our stuff.

0:37:080:37:12

And, uh, quite honestly the blues ain't just necessarily black.

0:37:120:37:15

On its journey from the American South to Southern England

0:37:180:37:21

the blues, in the wake of Beatlemania,

0:37:210:37:24

had become a horny teenage music.

0:37:240:37:26

Something the purists weren't happy about.

0:37:260:37:29

White kids stealing black music for their own needs.

0:37:290:37:32

You know, was it racially dodgy? We didn't even think about it.

0:37:340:37:38

I mean, you know, why would you think about that?

0:37:380:37:40

At that time, I mean, you just, you didn't, you know.

0:37:400:37:44

There's a sociological background, you know, to the blues

0:37:440:37:48

and what happened and what the people felt and so on and so forth,

0:37:480:37:51

um, that make it what it is.

0:37:510:37:53

It's very important and I don't think it's right

0:37:530:37:57

to just take bits of it as trappings.

0:37:570:38:01

I mean, I think you owe it to the people who you admire

0:38:010:38:04

not to screw the music up.

0:38:040:38:06

The new teenage audience for British electric blues

0:38:120:38:15

was, yet again, entirely white.

0:38:150:38:18

We didn't appeal to a black audience at all, though funnily enough,

0:38:180:38:21

when Paul Jones and I were first trying to get a band together

0:38:210:38:25

we were rehearsing in a pub in Colliers Wood, South London,

0:38:250:38:28

and the landlord came up and said,

0:38:280:38:31

"The band I've booked to play downstairs haven't turned up

0:38:310:38:35

"and would you like to play?"

0:38:350:38:37

And we went down and played and we were greeted with stunned indifference.

0:38:370:38:41

But then a black man came in at the back of the bar

0:38:410:38:44

and he probably got a pint of Guinness and stood there

0:38:440:38:47

and we saw that he was tapping his foot.

0:38:470:38:49

And honestly, we felt so good that one person in that audience

0:38:490:38:54

was enjoying what we were attempting to do

0:38:540:38:57

and he was black.

0:38:570:38:58

British blues players weren't themselves black,

0:39:040:39:07

and didn't appeal to black audiences.

0:39:070:39:09

But their love of the music lead them to identify themselves

0:39:090:39:12

with the black man's burden.

0:39:120:39:14

Something far weightier than anything suburban Britain could offer.

0:39:140:39:18

They never were sharecroppers, they never lived in abject poverty,

0:39:200:39:24

they didn't have to go and sit on a stoop

0:39:240:39:26

in the middle of a tiny little town in Texas like Blind Lemon Jefferson

0:39:260:39:30

did with a cup, you know, to get nickels and dimes and even pennies.

0:39:300:39:35

You know, they never had to do that.

0:39:350:39:37

This is what I find absolutely so extraordinary

0:39:370:39:40

that the white British blues thing that developed, developed in,

0:39:400:39:46

mainly, in this genteel area of Southern England.

0:39:460:39:50

I mean, how ridiculous is that?

0:39:500:39:52

I suppose one did feel a certain sympathy, empathy or something

0:39:520:39:57

with people who were oppressed.

0:39:570:39:59

But I was never oppressed, I mean, that's stupid.

0:39:590:40:03

It was the romanticism of it, I suppose, to some extent.

0:40:040:40:07

"Wow, look how horribly those people were treated.

0:40:090:40:12

"Boy, I'm with them."

0:40:120:40:15

In the early '60s, being "with them" and being desperate to feel something

0:40:180:40:22

meant knowing about the American Civil Rights Movement

0:40:220:40:25

and the violent struggles to end slavery and segregation.

0:40:250:40:28

It was a cause to live, wasn't it, of our generation.

0:40:320:40:37

Reading James Baldwin and, that's what you did

0:40:370:40:40

as a young adult in the '60s, really.

0:40:400:40:45

Most of the people I knew who were into R'n'B

0:40:450:40:47

really knew what was going on in America in terms of civil rights.

0:40:470:40:51

And we all knew how black people were treated.

0:40:510:40:56

I mean, that's why it was probably dangerous.

0:40:580:41:01

White, young intellectuals

0:41:010:41:03

going down trying to find old black men in Mississippi.

0:41:030:41:06

At that time you had the Civil Rights and you might end up in the swamp.

0:41:060:41:10

This is Paul Oliver who was THE blues writer.

0:41:110:41:15

And he was very much in evidence in those days.

0:41:170:41:19

He and his wife, Valerie, they'd been to the States

0:41:190:41:22

and done a tour of the South

0:41:220:41:25

and recorded a lot of people and interviewed people

0:41:250:41:28

in a rehearsals at the Albert Hall

0:41:280:41:32

for a concert and it's important to get the history down, you know. People were very serious about it.

0:41:320:41:37

For some musicians it was also important to get the precise sound down.

0:41:480:41:52

Exactly, if at all possible.

0:41:520:41:55

These records were what we were trying to attain.

0:41:590:42:02

The sound of it, the feel of it. The whole concept of it,

0:42:020:42:05

but because none of us, including me at that time,

0:42:050:42:08

had ever been to America and ever walked into a recording studio,

0:42:080:42:11

we had no concept of how they made their records.

0:42:110:42:14

Where to put the microphone.

0:42:140:42:17

HE STAMPS

0:42:170:42:18

Get the sound of the room, you know?

0:42:180:42:20

Where John Lee Hooker would put his foot.

0:42:200:42:24

Put the microphone a little further back.

0:42:260:42:29

Cos you could hear on Johnson's

0:42:290:42:32

where they deliberately pulled the microphone back to get more guitar

0:42:320:42:37

and so he's wailing over the top

0:42:370:42:40

and there's others where it's almost in his face.

0:42:400:42:42

Whatever you do it's never going to sound like the American records

0:42:420:42:46

because these are black artists who are from the South,

0:42:460:42:50

who have a sound vocally that is uniquely theirs

0:42:500:42:53

and that is part of what we talk about as being the blues.

0:42:530:42:58

Um, and to recreate that is almost an impossibility.

0:42:580:43:02

Recording this music in the UK became a generational struggle

0:43:050:43:09

as young blues musicians ran the gauntlet

0:43:090:43:12

of jobsworth British recording engineers

0:43:120:43:14

in their starched white coats.

0:43:140:43:16

Sometimes brown coats!

0:43:160:43:17

Yeah, but I mean they were so de rigueur, you know,

0:43:190:43:21

like, uh, "You can't do this, you're overloading." Yes!

0:43:210:43:26

We wanna overload.

0:43:260:43:28

They didn't want to go into the red.

0:43:280:43:30

They were taught that you don't distort.

0:43:300:43:33

"Distortion, dear boy, is bad news."

0:43:330:43:37

You're up against this monolithic idea of, like,

0:43:380:43:42

the correct method of recording.

0:43:420:43:44

And, we're not looking for the correct method.

0:43:440:43:48

We're looking for the incorrect method, you know?

0:43:480:43:51

But of course in the blues you do distort, you do go in the red.

0:43:530:43:56

It is rough, it does go out of tempo.

0:43:560:43:59

That's the beauty of it because it's coming from the moment, you know?

0:43:590:44:04

"Sorry, mind my microphone."

0:44:040:44:09

Well, I'm not trying to hurt it, you know.

0:44:090:44:11

"No, you're playing too loud into it and you've moved it!"

0:44:110:44:14

After learning to play and learning to record,

0:44:160:44:19

came the hardest lesson of all - learning your place.

0:44:190:44:21

American blues masters continued to visit Britain,

0:44:210:44:24

but now there was a generation of young musicians to back them.

0:44:240:44:28

First in line to share the same stage with a blues legend in 1964

0:44:280:44:32

were the Bluesbreakers, led by John Mayall.

0:44:320:44:35

They wanted to bring over

0:44:360:44:38

John Lee Hooker as a test thing

0:44:380:44:40

and they booked him a whole string of dates up and down the country

0:44:400:44:43

with the Bluesbreakers backing him.

0:44:430:44:46

We played all the places and we opened at the Flamingo and there was a phenomenal response to that.

0:44:460:44:53

And it kind of pioneered the way.

0:44:530:44:55

There's John Mayall looking at him with, well, we can only see half his face!

0:44:580:45:03

He looks from here as though he might be a bit dubious,

0:45:030:45:05

but I can assure you he's not, he's looking at him with admiration.

0:45:050:45:09

The marvellous Mr Hooker. I didn't get to know him well.

0:45:090:45:12

We had a meal together one afternoon, but that was when I went to interview him

0:45:120:45:16

and we went off and had chicken and chips or something which, you know,

0:45:160:45:20

in those days that was the height of cool.

0:45:200:45:22

But meeting him was the height of cool, I can assure you.

0:45:220:45:25

When The Groundhogs backed Hooker that same year,

0:45:290:45:32

guitarist Tony McPhee took the opportunity to look and learn from his hero.

0:45:320:45:36

# Boom, boom, boom, boom

0:45:360:45:38

# I'm gonna shoot you right down... #

0:45:390:45:41

Just watching him, his technique,

0:45:410:45:43

well, I saw him, first time we did the first week,

0:45:430:45:48

I saw him, he played fingerstyle, without picks. I went,

0:45:480:45:51

"That's it, I'll do that."

0:45:510:45:52

# Boom, boom, boom, boom... #

0:45:520:45:54

And the other thing was he had his strap over his right shoulder.

0:45:540:45:57

# Up and down the floor... #

0:45:580:46:00

I thought I'd do that as well.

0:46:000:46:01

Which, even now, it falls off.

0:46:010:46:04

# That baby talk... #

0:46:040:46:06

But it's easy to put on.

0:46:060:46:08

# I like it like that... #

0:46:080:46:10

Everything he did I wanted to do.

0:46:100:46:11

# Ho-ho-ho-ho... #

0:46:110:46:13

To make me him in white form.

0:46:130:46:16

McPhee also learned the real meaning of "backing group".

0:46:200:46:23

When I did a solo, he used to stand in front of me...

0:46:230:46:26

and do his stuff!

0:46:270:46:29

Everybody would probably think it was him playing. That was me.

0:46:300:46:33

But I didn't mind, didn't care.

0:46:330:46:35

They had no idea about keeping time, necessarily.

0:46:350:46:39

Cos often they start out, they play by themselves,

0:46:390:46:42

-they would just stamp their feet.

-STAMPS HIS FEET

0:46:420:46:45

You know, and when they got more excited they stamped them faster.

0:46:450:46:49

So if you were trying to play with them, and follow them,

0:46:490:46:53

it wasn't easy, you know.

0:46:530:46:55

Telepathy, I think. You learn telepathy.

0:46:550:46:57

With John, especially, because you didn't know where he was going to change.

0:46:570:47:01

He changed whenever he wanted to.

0:47:010:47:02

# Start rolling

0:47:040:47:05

# Ah...! #

0:47:070:47:08

He said, "What I like about you guys is that I can do

0:47:080:47:11

"11 bars, 16 bars, 12 and a half,

0:47:110:47:13

"but you know when to change cos you just feel it."

0:47:130:47:16

You know, it's coming up to it.

0:47:160:47:17

It's the movement in it and the way he's shifting the patterns

0:47:170:47:22

and the rhythms and, um, the way the chords are falling, you know,

0:47:220:47:26

and what he's doing with them, are just terrifying.

0:47:260:47:30

We did realise, you know, pretty early on

0:47:300:47:34

that we were these white impostors.

0:47:340:47:37

I mean, we played with, you know,

0:47:370:47:38

people like Sonny Boy Williamson for Christ's sake.

0:47:380:47:41

You know, he used to get very drunk,

0:47:420:47:44

would think nothing of changing arrangements, screwing up the band.

0:47:440:47:48

Anyway, we were whities, what did he care.

0:47:480:47:51

And he'd actually said, when he got back to the States,

0:47:510:47:54

"These boys wanna play the blues so badly and believe you me they do!"

0:47:540:47:58

You know.

0:47:580:48:00

Which was probably a very nice thing for him to say.

0:48:000:48:02

Manfred Mann, who already had several chart hits to their name,

0:48:050:48:09

also accepted the honour of backing Sonny Boy on stage.

0:48:090:48:12

Thank you very much.

0:48:120:48:13

Sonny Boy was a grumpy old character.

0:48:150:48:18

But the problem really was that Manfred Mann

0:48:180:48:21

was made up, mostly, of trained musicians.

0:48:210:48:24

Musicians who could read music and write music.

0:48:240:48:28

And we fell out over how many bars there are in a 12-bar blues.

0:48:290:48:33

You know, I mean, the trained musicians

0:48:330:48:36

thought it must be 12, surely.

0:48:360:48:38

# You just keep it all to yourself... #

0:48:400:48:43

And Sonny Boy knew the correct answer, which was,

0:48:430:48:45

"Any number that I want it to be."

0:48:450:48:48

# Do that for me, darling

0:48:480:48:49

# Don't make it to no-one else... #

0:48:490:48:52

Here we have the rather devilish, satanic-looking Sonny Boy Williamson

0:49:150:49:20

with his harlequin suit

0:49:200:49:23

which was in a black and sort of beige, as I recall.

0:49:230:49:27

I remember Sonny Boy Williamson was staying with our manager,

0:49:280:49:32

Giorgio Gomelsky, in his flat in Lexham Gardens round the corner here

0:49:320:49:36

and one day we came home to the flat and there's all this noise going on,

0:49:360:49:41

you know, and we opened the bathroom and Sonny Boy Williamson is plucking a live chicken.

0:49:410:49:47

In the bathroom, you know.

0:49:470:49:49

Like he did back home, you know.

0:49:490:49:51

So there was a lot of cultural differences, you see.

0:49:510:49:55

Cultural differences became increasingly obvious

0:49:590:50:02

the more American blues legends

0:50:020:50:04

began visiting Britain in the early '60s.

0:50:040:50:06

Tours mounted on shoestrings

0:50:060:50:09

often relied on artists staying with their fans, not in hotels.

0:50:090:50:13

When Jesse Fuller first came to Britain,

0:50:130:50:16

Val Wilmer invited him to stay with her and her mother in South London.

0:50:160:50:21

I went to see him as soon as he arrived

0:50:210:50:23

and then I brought him over to our house

0:50:230:50:25

and this was in Streatham in South London,

0:50:250:50:27

which was a rather smart place in those days.

0:50:270:50:30

And there he is taking tea in my mother's drawing room.

0:50:300:50:34

And then he played for us, harmonica and kazoo,

0:50:350:50:39

with a harness round his neck so he could switch from one to the other

0:50:390:50:42

and play guitar at the same time.

0:50:420:50:44

Allegedly Dylan, Bob Dylan, copied that harness from him.

0:50:440:50:48

And there he is with my brother.

0:50:500:50:53

I love these photographs, although I took them myself, I love them,

0:50:540:50:58

because it was a special time.

0:50:580:51:00

We didn't get on all that well, actually,

0:51:020:51:04

I found him a very miserable person, to be quite frank.

0:51:040:51:08

He always complained about the fact that he didn't have,

0:51:080:51:11

he couldn't get a hamburger, you know.

0:51:110:51:13

I don't know if Wimpy's had started in those days,

0:51:130:51:15

but he was always complaining about it, so my mother got him some mince

0:51:150:51:21

and he made his own hamburgers, so there he is cooking it in the kitchen.

0:51:210:51:25

And we'd like you to meet the king of Smokestack Lightning,

0:51:270:51:30

Howlin' Wolf.

0:51:300:51:32

APPLAUSE

0:51:320:51:34

Chris Barber had first invited Howlin' Wolf to the UK in 1962.

0:51:350:51:39

On subsequent visits, young British blues musicians discovered that,

0:51:390:51:43

as far as The Wolf was concerned, rehearsals were for pussies.

0:51:430:51:47

Wolf walked in with his tour manager.

0:51:470:51:49

And he used to just, "Mmm, hmm,"

0:51:520:51:54

looked around, looked at us, looked at him, "Mmm, mmm."

0:51:540:51:57

And we thought, "Well, we're gonna rehearse now."

0:51:590:52:02

And he pulled out a harp.

0:52:020:52:03

He just started playing a slow blues and we joined in.

0:52:030:52:06

We did about two choruses.

0:52:060:52:08

"Hmm, yeah, they're fine.

0:52:080:52:10

"See you tomorrow."

0:52:110:52:12

First gig, tomorrow in Sunderland.

0:52:120:52:15

# Ah, oh, the train I ride on

0:52:170:52:21

# Oh, they shine like gold

0:52:240:52:28

# Whoo-hoo, whoo... #

0:52:350:52:40

I hears, uh, Memphis Slim and, uh, Muddy Waters say,

0:52:410:52:46

"The white man can't play the blues."

0:52:460:52:48

They should never say such thing as that, "The white man can't play the blues."

0:52:480:52:52

Anybody can play the blues, white or black.

0:52:520:52:54

But he can't feel what I feel,

0:52:540:52:57

because he never lived a slave life.

0:52:570:52:59

He didn't have nobody to spit in his face

0:52:590:53:02

and he couldn't do nothing about it and he's a man.

0:53:020:53:04

See, so this is what blues is all about.

0:53:040:53:07

Whisky, women and blues!

0:53:070:53:10

But in the States, whisky, women and especially the blues

0:53:140:53:17

simply weren't on the menu any more.

0:53:170:53:19

In America, even the blacks didn't like the blues any more,

0:53:220:53:26

it was considered old hat.

0:53:260:53:27

Uncle Tom, you know, like, who listens to George Formby, you know?

0:53:270:53:32

Come on, we love him, but...you know.

0:53:320:53:35

There's not a lot of George Formby tribute bands. Or maybe there are!

0:53:350:53:39

You know, there's the problem of black people

0:53:410:53:45

not wanting to be reminded of their roots

0:53:450:53:48

and wanting to hear things that were more suave

0:53:480:53:51

and middle class and sophisticated.

0:53:510:53:53

A lot of the younger black people wanted to move on.

0:53:530:53:57

Move on up, if you like.

0:53:570:53:59

And the blues were, yeah, they were associated with, you know, the Delta,

0:53:590:54:03

the cotton and slavery, even.

0:54:030:54:05

It goes back, I mean it goes back to that, it goes back to West Africa.

0:54:060:54:10

In a kind of unofficial exchange programme,

0:54:140:54:17

British R'n'B bands began visiting America,

0:54:170:54:20

unaware that the blues were ignored in their own country.

0:54:200:54:23

They were about to change the course of popular music forever.

0:54:240:54:27

Some bands finally achieved the recorded sound

0:54:300:54:33

they'd so desperately sought in Britain at Chess Records in Chicago.

0:54:330:54:38

2220 South Michigan Avenue.

0:54:420:54:44

And suddenly you're in the room.

0:54:460:54:48

THE room.

0:54:480:54:49

One of THE rooms.

0:54:490:54:51

They knew about sound, they knew about guitars.

0:54:520:54:55

They knew about guitar players.

0:54:550:54:57

And they had it all geared up, you know, and it was just amazing.

0:54:570:55:01

In came Willie Dixon, Chuck Berry, um, Muddy,

0:55:010:55:05

um, Buddy Guy, all came in to listen to us.

0:55:050:55:09

Yeah, they wanted to know, like, how we were doing it

0:55:090:55:13

and WHY we wanted to do it.

0:55:130:55:15

You know, "Why you wanna play like me?"

0:55:150:55:18

Oh, well, it happens to be very good stuff, you know.

0:55:180:55:22

You know, and one day I might get there!

0:55:240:55:26

You know...

0:55:260:55:27

..what, what were they thinking about us?

0:55:290:55:32

You know, you're doing our stuff and da-da-da-da

0:55:320:55:38

and coming into our world.

0:55:380:55:40

Luckily it was a happy marriage

0:55:420:55:46

because we paid attention and we knew, you know,

0:55:460:55:49

in truth, really how to behave.

0:55:490:55:52

Just the first take, I mean,

0:55:520:55:54

I mean, I think we all went outside and wept and said,

0:55:540:55:58

"Yes. I mean... It's that easy?"

0:55:580:56:02

That was the time that The Yardbirds got their sound down onto tape.

0:56:020:56:07

Then we moved down to Memphis and had an amazing opportunity to record at Sun Studios.

0:56:070:56:11

With the very guy who recorded Howlin' Wolf and Elvis Presley,

0:56:110:56:17

Sam Phillips.

0:56:170:56:18

He came in from a weekend's fishing trip.

0:56:180:56:21

I don't know how we did it.

0:56:210:56:24

And it was in a room, a tiny little room, you know,

0:56:240:56:27

the size of a kitchen.

0:56:270:56:28

Where everything, you know, old amps, mics that weren't moved.

0:56:280:56:33

But what a kick-arse sound, I mean, these guys...

0:56:330:56:35

Blues hasn't been a popular music in America.

0:56:350:56:39

And, in fact, it seemed like white America didn't even know about blues,

0:56:400:56:45

only little corners here, corners there.

0:56:450:56:48

But when The Rolling Stones,

0:56:490:56:51

The Who,

0:56:510:56:53

and I can name you quite a few groups

0:56:530:56:55

that came over HERE after The Beatles.

0:56:550:56:59

Oh, boy, it opened up then.

0:56:590:57:03

In America, the audience for blues was black

0:57:030:57:08

until the British thing...

0:57:080:57:11

and then people started listening to, like, John Mayall or maybe us,

0:57:110:57:16

or whoever and I talked to a guy, said he actually discovered

0:57:160:57:20

that John Lee Hooker, who he'd never heard of, lived two blocks away.

0:57:200:57:25

The media didn't know what it was.

0:57:250:57:28

You know the famous thing about The Beatles when they said, you know,

0:57:280:57:32

"What do you most want to see when you're over here?"

0:57:320:57:35

And they said, "Muddy Waters." And they said, "Where's that?"

0:57:350:57:39

And when anybody ever asked us, "Who did that song?"

0:57:390:57:42

We'd say, "That's an Elmore James song, a Muddy Waters song,

0:57:420:57:45

"that's a Howlin' Wolf song, Little Walter,"

0:57:450:57:48

and gave them the credit and talked about it in interviews and how great they were and all that, you know.

0:57:480:57:54

We were getting letters from people in Chicago

0:57:540:57:56

saying, "Where can I find this music?"

0:57:560:57:59

We used to say, "Go across the bridge and it's there."

0:57:590:58:03

They did start to sell records, they did start to cross over,

0:58:030:58:06

they did start to sell in the white man's territory.

0:58:060:58:09

It's an awful thing to say, isn't it? White man's territory, but it was like that.

0:58:090:58:13

"Hey, these English cats are getting the hang of it and they're gonna help us."

0:58:130:58:18

So sometimes you use that fame bit as a...

0:58:210:58:25

yeah, to do what you think you gotta do.

0:58:250:58:28

British R'n'B bands had not only sold their take on American blues to white kids in the States,

0:58:320:58:37

they also brought their heroes to the attention of teenage audiences in the UK.

0:58:370:58:41

We got Jimmy Reed over.

0:58:430:58:44

And Jimmy did it for, you know, he couldn't believe what he got,

0:58:440:58:48

he told us he was working for 30 the night before in New York,

0:58:480:58:51

and I think we got him 1,000 and a bottle of Jack Daniels under his stool.

0:58:510:58:56

And he said to me,

0:58:560:58:58

"There's more young pussy than you can shake a stick at in front of me,

0:58:580:59:02

"like I died and gone to heaven."

0:59:020:59:04

And he'd played to 25 people the night before.

0:59:040:59:06

Come over here and they were playing at the Albert Hall, you know.

0:59:060:59:10

2,500 people, you know, sitting down,

0:59:120:59:15

lovin' them and knowing all the songs.

0:59:150:59:18

And it kind of threw them, I think.

0:59:180:59:20

Yeah, I mean, I've no doubt they all looked at each other and said,

0:59:220:59:25

"Well, that's the strangest audience I've ever seen."

0:59:250:59:28

A bunch of wimpy English guys with long hair, going, "Duh."

0:59:300:59:34

"Well, I didn't expect to hit THEM!"

0:59:360:59:37

You know, any port in a storm!

0:59:390:59:40

By 1965 British R'n'B was at high tide and blues-based bands were flooding the charts worldwide.

0:59:440:59:51

# I live in an apartment on the 99th floor of my block

0:59:510:59:56

# And I sit at home looking out the window... #

0:59:591:00:01

But these British bands now stood at the crossroads of blues and rock

1:00:011:00:05

and were writing their own original material.

1:00:051:00:07

# Then in flies a guy who's all dressed up just like a Union Jack... #

1:00:071:00:11

Which may have been inspired by the blues, but it wasn't quite the blues any more.

1:00:111:00:15

# And says I've won £5 if I can have his kind of detergent pack

1:00:151:00:19

-# I said hey!

-Hey!

-You!

-You!

-Get off of my cloud

1:00:211:00:25

-# Hey!

-Hey!

-You!

-You!

-Get off of my cloud... #

1:00:251:00:29

There was a kind of frantic quality to the way that The Stones

1:00:291:00:33

and The Manfreds and The Animals all did it, you know.

1:00:331:00:37

Um, it was all...

1:00:371:00:39

I gravitated towards The Yardbirds.

1:00:411:00:43

Um, and I always used to think to myself, you know,

1:00:431:00:47

"Why don't they ever play any slow songs?"

1:00:471:00:49

It was always like, ding-ding-ding!

1:00:491:00:51

It was necessary, creatively and as human beings, my God, you know,

1:00:511:00:56

to do something for ourselves, so we did start to experiment

1:00:561:01:01

and sort of move away a little bit from the blues format.

1:01:011:01:05

You had to go somewhere else, we had to make our own music.

1:01:051:01:08

# I never see

1:01:081:01:10

# The people I know

1:01:121:01:14

# In the bright light of day

1:01:151:01:17

# So how can I say

1:01:191:01:21

# That you're any friend of mine... #

1:01:221:01:24

We got to a point where we'd done that for three or four years.

1:01:241:01:27

# I'm feelin' fine... #

1:01:271:01:29

And if we hadn't of found a way

1:01:291:01:30

to sort of break out of that

1:01:301:01:33

we would have, probably, stopped being a band.

1:01:331:01:35

# Midnight, midnight till six

1:01:391:01:41

# Midnight, midnight till six... #

1:01:411:01:43

The Yardbirds now boasted a serious young blues guitarist who quickly established his own fan base.

1:01:471:01:52

He soon became known simply, to those who idolised him, as God.

1:01:521:01:57

Eric Clapton.

1:01:571:01:59

I mean, they named him God.

1:02:001:02:02

He never woke up and said, "I'm gonna be God."

1:02:021:02:04

Although I did go out one night and scrawl it on a bridge with a piece of...

1:02:041:02:08

No, I didn't, it's not true actually. I wish I had.

1:02:081:02:10

# I love you baby Yes, I love you so... #

1:02:111:02:15

What he brought with him was his intense love and appreciation

1:02:151:02:19

for this music that only he was just discovering.

1:02:191:02:22

And I realised later that he identified himself with these guys,

1:02:221:02:26

these suffering guys, you know, Robert Johnson.

1:02:261:02:29

And that, in a way, he was living the blues, actually,

1:02:291:02:32

more than I was living the blues, you know.

1:02:321:02:34

We did gel for a very intense, short period of time

1:02:351:02:38

and we even shared a bedroom together, would you believe.

1:02:381:02:42

And we were very close.

1:02:421:02:44

Eric did have these very intense relationships with people.

1:02:441:02:47

For Your Love was The Yardbirds musical prophecy of the shape of things to come.

1:02:541:02:58

# For your love... #

1:02:581:02:59

But Clapton wasn't interested in the imminent psychedelic future.

1:03:001:03:04

At least, not yet.

1:03:041:03:05

For him, the blues, pure and simple,

1:03:051:03:07

had still to enjoy its day in Britain.

1:03:071:03:10

For Your Love was "too commercial, man."

1:03:101:03:13

# For your love... #

1:03:131:03:14

I don't know if there was an electricity

1:03:141:03:17

in that studio afterwards that, you know, was tangible.

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It was gonna do something, it was unique.

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And he played on the middle section

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and then, basically, quit.

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I think that was a, sort of, a step too far for him.

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It was too, not the route he wanted to go to.

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He had his blinkers on at that point.

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Eric was the first person who saw that what really differentiated

1:03:401:03:47

the blues that we were trying to play from the real thing

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was they just slipped into it because it was natural.

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And if you could make the music feel natural to yourself,

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that's the key to the whole of Eric Clapton's music.

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If you could make the music feel natural, you were away.

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Naturally enough, Clapton joined a real blues band.

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Produced by Mike Vernon, the album, John Mayall's Blues Breakers With Eric Clapton,

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known as The Beano Album,

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announced the arrival of the second, more hardcore British blues boom.

1:04:201:04:24

I had a very hard time getting to grips with the difference

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between the way I remember him when he played with The Yardbirds,

1:04:311:04:35

and the way he was when he first stepped out on a stage with John Mayall.

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It was like a completely different guitarist.

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He must have got a serious dose of Freddie King.

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Really serious dose, you know, because those, the Freddie King records

1:04:491:04:53

were sort of somewhere in between and Eric took it a bit further.

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Eric had told me, he said,

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"I'm gonna play loud, I'm gonna play the way I do live and I don't want anybody telling me I gotta turn down.

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"I don't want that to happen."

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And I said to him, "I promise you it won't happen."

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Soon as Eric plugged in and turned on, everything went to buggery completely.

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All the drums were like, "Pwwww!"

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But God works in mysterious ways.

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Yeah, I just really play blues all the time, you know.

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Having briefly blessed John Mayall's Blues Breakers,

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Clapton was spirited away again,

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this time by two young jazz tyros, Ginger Baker and Jack Bruce,

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to complete the holy trinity that was Cream.

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Eric and myself went to Ginger's house,

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I think he was the only one who actually had a house,

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in Neasden, and we set up and, eh,

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we started to play and it was just magical.

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# I'm so glad

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# I'm so glad, I'm glad I'm glad, I'm glad... #

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So...that's where the blues was born, folks.

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We had no idea what we were going to play, but luckily, Eric, being really into the blues,

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had some rather lesser-known esoteric kind of people like Skip James

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and some of the lesser known Robert Johnson things,

1:06:231:06:27

which was really good for us to be able to do.

1:06:271:06:30

My idea in the Cream days was to take the blues, but respectfully,

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and then use it to kind of create a new kind of British thing.

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# They might fill spoons full of water

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# They might fill spoons full of tea

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# Just a little spoon of your precious love

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# Saved you from another man... #

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Cream appeared just as things went all weird and druggy.

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First with the coming of psychedelia,

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swiftly followed by the strange sounds

1:07:261:07:28

that announced the arrival of progressive rock,

1:07:281:07:31

under the flagship of The Beatles' Sergeant Pepper's album.

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Even The Rolling Stones were wrong footed.

1:07:351:07:38

When we went the wrong way with Satanic Majesties,

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trying to copy The Beatles, I suppose, they were,

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um, with the cover and everything,

1:07:451:07:48

we had to get back to our roots when we did Beggars Banquet in '68.

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It was much more bluesy.

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# 2,000 light years from home... #

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But the blues were more alive than ever in the mind of guitarist Peter Green.

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Having replaced Clapton in John Mayall's Blues Breakers,

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he too was now ready to take his own no-frills version of the blues on the road.

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While many British groups were busy copying The Beatles,

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abandoning live performance altogether in favour of complex studio recordings,

1:08:161:08:20

Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac stepped on stage and rocked like it was 1963.

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I wasn't exactly Buddy Rich. I did my best to play, I wanted to play.

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I happened to meet people who turned me on to blues music.

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And what I did, as a player, really was a good fit

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because it was less is more and I couldn't do more anyhow.

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They were the best band on the road at that period of time, live.

1:08:591:09:04

The atmosphere was absolutely, I mean, you know, my God,

1:09:041:09:08

it was electric.

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We needed an album. We needed it fast and the band were so popular

1:09:101:09:13

they were out there working eight days a week.

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# I got a girl and she just won't be true... #

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We had to put something out.

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# I got a girl and she just won't be true

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# Won't let me do the one good thing I tell her to. #

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I did two or three tracks at Decca

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with Peter Green and Mick Fleetwood

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and, actually, Bob Brunning playing bass,

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as demos for a future Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac band.

1:09:371:09:42

-'We got the sound now, lads.

-Good.

-Take two.'

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Mike Vernon absolutely was the boffin of boffins.

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He was so passionate about, like, if he had something to play you,

1:09:501:09:55

I mean, this is like, "No, no, no, you gotta come round,"

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and "duh-duh-duh", like stuttering over his words.

1:09:571:10:00

"It's just unbelievable, Mick, it's just unbelievable,

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"the horn section's coming in," and this and that.

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The adage about being in the right place at the right time is fine,

1:10:081:10:12

but you have to be the right person in the right place at the right time.

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'Shake Your Moneymaker, take one!'

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He wasn't looking for perfection.

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'Remake, take one.'

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But he was looking for, you know, the shit, the real deal.

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-'Take five!'

-And he knew what it was.

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It was all about real stuff.

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'Can you hear it? It's fuzzy and keeps cutting out.'

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On the production side at that period of time,

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I probably was the right person, I actually was probably the only person.

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There wasn't, to the best of my knowledge,

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not anybody else that was as active as I was,

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nor as committed as I was.

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Fleetwood Mac's first album, released at the beginning of 1968,

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was an international hit.

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The Dog And Dustbin album, it's commonly known as.

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Yes, Peter Green's dog.

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I think, or was it Mike Vernon's? That's trivial.

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But the Fleetwood Mac album outsold The Beatles and The Stones put together

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for the first few months.

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It was an extraordinary success.

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And nobody could understand it,

1:11:241:11:26

here was this little blues band not playing very fashionable music.

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Cos that album was, for sure, a blues album.

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And people loved it

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and most of them didn't know from whence it really came, I'm sure.

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Peter Green's a great, great guitar player.

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At that time, I think he'd gone beyond Clapton in terms of his tasteful playing.

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There's something about the formula.

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You know, and it's been twisted and bent and everything else.

1:12:011:12:05

Like the R'n'B groups before them,

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some of this second wave of more hard-boiled blues players

1:12:131:12:17

also looked beyond a mere 12 bars in their quest for originality

1:12:171:12:21

and a blues form more relevant to '60s Britain.

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I was only interested in writing new material.

1:12:251:12:28

I've always wanted to be a composer.

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To me, Cream was like a vehicle for my composing.

1:12:301:12:35

# Hey now, baby

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# Get into my big black car... #

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It actually came from the Profumo scandal.

1:12:501:12:53

You know, you got this idea of an old politician,

1:12:531:12:55

an older politician, in a limo starting to be very, very turned on

1:12:551:13:01

by the young girls of the '60s,

1:13:011:13:02

you know, with the very short skirts.

1:13:021:13:06

And wanting a piece of the action.

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# I wanna just show you

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# What my politics are... #

1:13:121:13:15

There's a line in it which I always think about,

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"I don't care if you are a Russian spy,

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"what I want from you is your red velvet thigh next to mine."

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Some of the funniest things you'll ever hear are in the blues.

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The success of what was becoming blues rock in Britain in 1968

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meant that even emerging, progressive bands

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could sail into the album charts under the blues flag.

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Jethro Tull's Ian Anderson factored an unusual choice of instrument into the blues equation.

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It was almost like, well, Eric doesn't play the flute.

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It was about being a bigger fish in a small pool -

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you could actually stand out of the crowd a little bit as a flute player

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at the Marquee Club doing the blues cos no-one else was playing it.

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But, you know, very quickly Jethro Tull was not just a blues band.

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That was Anderson's plan, but Tull's management was uneasy about the mix.

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This is just not an instrument you should be playing in a blues band.

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You should push the guitar player, Mick Abrahams, get him to stand at the front, and do more guitar,

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and let him do more of the singing. Why don't you learn to play a little rhythm piano and stand at the back?

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# Gonna lose my way tomorrow

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# Gonna give away my car

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# I'd take you along with me

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# But you would not go so far... #

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The band was formed on the basis that you need a guitar player in the band,

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that can play blues.

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Because blues is the thing, and this was purely a commercial adventure.

1:15:021:15:08

The blues was the essential part, then, of Jethro Tull.

1:15:091:15:13

If you can play one note in the 12-bar solo, and make somebody cry or laugh or...

1:15:171:15:24

all the lovely emotions that are associated with music,

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that's truly, to me, the blues.

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It's almost like a prayer.

1:15:321:15:33

I had never any desire to be a third-rate copyist

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of a music form that I had such respect for then, and do today.

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One of the great blues pieces of all time, and not terribly well known, is JB Lenoir's Alabama Blues.

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And he's singing about race riots. Well, for me to sing that song would be patently absurd.

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Because it is so deeply personal.

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Ian had his own plan. Ian had his own plan for music.

1:15:551:15:58

So, my influence... It was like there were two Jethro Tulls.

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After a battle of guitar versus flute, and blues rock versus progressive rock,

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Mick Abrahams left Jethro Tull.

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Just as they hit the big time.

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How's that?

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It's not that I'm, you know, so snobby, or...

1:16:181:16:24

demanding some kind of intellectual outlet beyond this simple and vital music form...

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Actually, it is both of those things!

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It was this "simple and vital music form" that bagged a bunch of trophies for British blues artists

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at the Melody Maker Awards in 1969.

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Some thought the blues had become a license to print money and guarantee international fame.

1:16:511:16:57

There is, of course the element of - can blue men sing the whites?

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You know, people start off trying to copy people that they love,

1:17:041:17:08

and then, the good thing is if you recognise why you love them,

1:17:081:17:13

and try to pinpoint all the things that are great about those people,

1:17:131:17:17

and then incorporate it into your own personality, so it comes out being original.

1:17:171:17:23

# Quit hangin' around in bars

1:17:241:17:27

# Sold off all my green guitars

1:17:271:17:30

# Even got half the money back

1:17:301:17:33

# On my BMW car

1:17:331:17:37

# But you still... #

1:17:371:17:39

The essence of the blues is...

1:17:391:17:41

an expression of a person's... social and spiritual condition.

1:17:411:17:47

# But I'm still tryin' to flag a ride... #

1:17:471:17:50

Eventually, try and recognise it in yourself,

1:17:501:17:54

and if it comes out sounding like whitey playing the blues,

1:17:541:17:58

as long as it's got that recognition, I think that it works.

1:17:581:18:03

# But I ain't getting no replies. #

1:18:031:18:08

And it WAS working.

1:18:081:18:11

Another day, another blues group success.

1:18:111:18:14

This was the age of Fleetwood Mac, Ten Years After and Chicken Shack.

1:18:141:18:18

Savoy Brown, The Groundhogs and Taste.

1:18:181:18:22

They provided the soundtrack to arguments about allegiance to the blues versus originality,

1:18:221:18:27

authenticity versus theft.

1:18:271:18:30

The accompaniment to white middle-class guilt.

1:18:301:18:33

# I got the Fleetwood Mac, Chicken Shack

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# John Mayall can't fail blues

1:18:401:18:44

# I got the Jethro Tull Belly full

1:18:441:18:47

# Savoy Brown, Reach-me-down blues

1:18:471:18:52

# I got the Fleetwood Mac Chicken Shack

1:18:521:18:54

# John Mayall can't fail blues

1:18:541:18:59

# From the deep, deep south Of the river Thames

1:18:591:19:03

# A bottleneck guitar is the latest trend

1:19:031:19:06

# I'm gonna earn more money than I can spend

1:19:061:19:09

# I got the blues... #

1:19:091:19:10

# I've been waiting so long

1:19:141:19:18

# To be where I'm going

1:19:181:19:22

# In the sunshine of your love... #

1:19:221:19:29

Under the steam created by Cream,

1:19:311:19:33

British blues was now a runaway train, pulling rock, jazz and psychedelia along with it.

1:19:331:19:38

When we were actually out-grossing everybody else put together,

1:19:411:19:46

we were just jamming. I always like to say improvising, cos it sounds better.

1:19:461:19:51

Eric Clapton joined up with two jazz players,

1:19:541:19:57

you know, so, naturally jazz players improvise,

1:19:571:20:00

and they stretch things out, you know.

1:20:001:20:03

A ten minute number is kind of normal.

1:20:031:20:06

So, Eric learned a lot about improvisation,

1:20:061:20:10

and taking it to new areas, taking his guitar to new places,

1:20:101:20:14

as a result of him working in tandem with two of Britain's greatest jazz players.

1:20:141:20:20

Like John Mayall always tried to reconstruct

1:20:201:20:24

a sort of a Chicago blues sound, note for note, basically,

1:20:241:20:28

he's a kind of trad jazz version of the blues.

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What we were trying to do, was use the language of the blues

1:20:331:20:38

to create a new kind of unique and original and personal music.

1:20:381:20:43

Nothing to do with Chicago, or the Delta,

1:20:431:20:46

except that's where the inspiration and the actual language comes from.

1:20:461:20:51

British blues had arrived at another crossroads,

1:20:571:21:01

one that now signposted hard rock, progressive rock and jazz rock.

1:21:011:21:05

At the height of their popularity, Cream decided to call it a day and go their separate ways.

1:21:051:21:11

They said goodbye at the Royal Albert Hall on the 26th November 1968.

1:21:111:21:16

The devil expected payment for all the adulation

1:21:171:21:21

and unforeseen international success.

1:21:211:21:24

Fame and fortune also proved too much for guitarist Peter Green.

1:21:291:21:33

Down at his crossroads, he met LSD, abandoned the blues, and departed Fleetwood Mac.

1:21:331:21:40

But not before telling it like it was, for him.

1:21:421:21:46

# Shall I tell you about my life?

1:21:471:21:52

# They say I'm a man of the world

1:21:521:21:58

# I've flown across every tide

1:21:581:22:03

# I've seen lots of pretty girls... #

1:22:031:22:08

Peter's voice was as important as his guitar playing.

1:22:081:22:12

And... He could break your heart.

1:22:121:22:16

# I guess I've got everything I need... #

1:22:161:22:21

We just didn't realise, because he was sort of a happy guy.

1:22:211:22:27

And yet, you listen to the words, like, Man Of The World... You know.

1:22:271:22:31

# But I just wish that I had never been born... #

1:22:311:22:38

He was way more sensitive than one could possibly have known.

1:22:381:22:44

The pain that we found out he was going through,

1:22:441:22:50

was put into a lot of the stuff that he did in those three years.

1:22:501:22:55

In truth, when Peter left,

1:23:021:23:04

we had departed from being a pure blues based band.

1:23:041:23:11

But we departed with... the lessons learned.

1:23:111:23:17

But some British blues bands didn't attend lessons.

1:23:201:23:24

They were too busy frantically chasing gymslips.

1:23:281:23:32

# Good morning, little school girl

1:23:361:23:38

# Can I go home, home with you...? #

1:23:411:23:44

You don't, as you develop your musical expertise,

1:23:471:23:50

start tuning out, you know, music that looks blacker on the page with a lot of notes, blah-blah-blah-blah,

1:23:501:23:56

it's still to remember those really great lessons taught to us by the likes of BB King,

1:23:561:24:01

you know, less is more.

1:24:011:24:02

Do-de-do-de-do-de-do, they think that's blues.

1:24:091:24:13

do-de-do-de-do-de-doo-doo-doo, oh de-de. You know, diddly-diddly-diddly-do.

1:24:131:24:19

It's not blues, really. Blues is doo-doo-doo-doo-doo, diddle-uh-duh.

1:24:191:24:24

You know, "I lost my baby...

1:24:241:24:27

"Where am I gonna live?"

1:24:271:24:29

It's more heart-felt, it isn't bash it out, um...

1:24:291:24:34

as loud as you can, and play your lead guitar as fast as you can with as many notes.

1:24:341:24:40

That's jerking off, for me.

1:24:401:24:42

And I know a lot of those cats

1:24:421:24:43

and I realise that a lot of them didn't really wanna go that way.

1:24:431:24:48

But the business was growing and growing and growing.

1:24:481:24:53

And the money... And managements were coming in and the...

1:24:531:24:59

You know? I mean, what are you gonna do in this world? You know?

1:24:591:25:02

Why did you start it, how do you wanna finish it?

1:25:021:25:07

Now that's the blues.

1:25:071:25:09

'Lead guitar, Jimmy Paige!'

1:25:101:25:13

Finishing it, or starting it all over again, fell to a pheromone-fuelled new fab four.

1:25:181:25:25

Zeppelin got a lot of criticism early on for, sort of,

1:25:251:25:29

thieving things from Willie Dixon, or whatever,

1:25:291:25:32

but, you know, everybody did.

1:25:321:25:35

They, like the very best of British bands of that era, took it to a new place.

1:25:431:25:47

That place was the stadium,

1:25:531:25:55

where, in the '70s, British blues was subsumed in the heady mix.

1:25:551:25:59

# How many more times?

1:26:021:26:04

# Treat me the way that you wanna do... #

1:26:061:26:10

# I don't mean the USA... #

1:26:151:26:19

But what about the black American blues artists who personally brought their music to these shores

1:26:191:26:25

and lodged it firmly in the hearts of British audiences and musicians?

1:26:251:26:29

Champion Jack Dupree never went back.

1:26:291:26:33

He settled in Halifax and married a Yorkshire girl.

1:26:331:26:36

Since I come into England

1:26:391:26:42

and I found England was a heavenly place for me,

1:26:421:26:47

I don't care who else finds it difficult,

1:26:471:26:51

but to me it's heaven.

1:26:511:26:53

When you leave from slavery and go into a place where you're free...

1:26:541:26:59

I couldn't go back there. Because anybody spit on me, I'd kill them.

1:26:591:27:03

Everybody here know me, including the police.

1:27:061:27:10

So, I'm known by everybody and this is home for me.

1:27:101:27:13

When we began playing the blues in England in the early '60s,

1:27:171:27:22

we were trying to recreate something we heard on record.

1:27:221:27:26

That's the best you can do. But I would say that,

1:27:271:27:30

whether we were authentic or not, we all came to it with great love.

1:27:301:27:34

It's a living and breathing expression

1:27:361:27:39

of people's suffering and desire.

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And that's what the blues is. It's not the kind of music that the Brits nicked and sold back to America,

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although that happened.

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It's a woman, it's a drum,

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it's everything like that.

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It's much more important than something you can even sell or put a label on.

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Much more. It's humanity itself.

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As to whether we can ever begin to emulate

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the people who really began it, the Robert Johnsons,

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the Howlin' Wolfs, the Muddy Waters. No!

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# Nobody saw me cryin'

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# Nobody knows the way I feel

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# Nobody saw me cryin'

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# Nobody knows the way I feel

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# Yeah, the way I love the woman

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# It's bound to get me killed. #

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