Prog Rock Britannia: An Observation in Three Movements


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DRONING

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Pit-eh-schoo, blugh, buh-doov...

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Jun-jing, jun-jing, jun-jing, jing, juh-jing, jun-ding, jung...

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-BOOF!

-Rata-da-da-da, da-da-da, da, da...

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Doo-doo, doo, doo, doo-doo, doo-doo...

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Eh-eh-eh, neh-neh...

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Da, da, da, da-da...

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Eh-eh-eh, Neh-neh...

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Neeeh...

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Digga-digga-digga-digga...

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-Digga-digga, dah-dah...

-Over. Then some chords!

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"The Assyrian came down like a wolf from the fold

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-"and his cohorts were gleaming in silver and gold..."

-Diddle-liddle, dum-dum, doo-doo...

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"The sheen of his stars were like stars in the sky," whatever it is.

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It's gonna go, "Meeh, doo-doo, doo, doo". Then it's gonna go "doodle-oodle, oodle-oodle."

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Continual "lul-uhl-lul-uhl" notes without a single break-in.

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Boof!

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And I almost lost it there!

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-HE LAUGHS

-Easy!

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From the British pop revolution of the 1960s, emerged an entirely new breed of musician -

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a post-Beatles, post-psychedelic generation that saw a future of limitless possibilities.

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It was time for pop music to move beyond the three-minute love song and chart success.

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With little or no concern for fame, fortune or the audience, they plundered every musical form

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on an adventure into uncharted territories in search of the lost chord.

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This is the story of that generation of new bands,

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Yes, King Crimson, Genesis, ELP, Jethro Tull and many more.

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From the land that time forgot, the glory days of Prog Britannia.

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MUSIC: "Time Of The Season" by The Zombies

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In 1967, pop music, like the world it inhabited, was about to explode.

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In London, the British beat boom fused with American pop in a blaze of invention that would ransack

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jazz, folk and anything else it could find in the many basement clubs of the city.

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I do think there are periods which are golden ages and, you know,

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the stars are aligned, and whatever is happening, and it produces a lot of creativity.

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Where I was at college was like a snapshot of music at the time.

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The angry bot people liked The Beatles.

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The side I was on was blues upstairs and, in the cellar, Bob Dylan

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and then you had the modern jazz guys and the classical guys.

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Otis Redding and Sam & Dave and Booker T & the MGs came over and you suddenly realised that

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you know, it's "game up".

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You can't pretend to be them any more when they're actually here.

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There was some white music that even black musicians were listening to,

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for example, Jimi Hendrix was listening very hard to Bob Dylan, you know, there was stuff going on.

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# It's the time of the season... #

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There was huge social changes and huge chemical changes...

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going on. There was something definitely in the water.

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I mean, timing is everything. The smartest thing I did was get born in 1949. Brilliant, brilliant.

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Cos at 18 you're in 1968. Europe's aflame, the Paris Riots.

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Perfect.

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I was in the States in '68 and there were three major assassinations while we were there.

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A few Kennedys and an Andy Warhol or two.

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You know, it was all happening.

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It WAS all happening. But much of the music only reached eager young British ears courtesy of outlaws.

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Offshore pirate radio stations, broadcasting illegally

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to a nation still dominated by something called the BBC Light Programme.

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MUSIC: "Summer In The City" by The Lovin' Spoonful

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MUSIC WARPS INTO DIFFERENT SONGS

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'It was unreachable. You felt like you were tuning into another planet.

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'Contacting the aliens. It was coming from another world.'

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You could only reach it on little transistor radios...late at night.

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Then, in May 1967, a song that fused Bach with Percy Sledge via Bob Dylan and Geoffrey Chaucer

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was heard leaving for the coast.

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A Whiter Shade Of Pale by Procul Harum.

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I wouldn't be exaggerating when I said that the world was waiting for that.

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# We skipped the light fandango

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# Turned cartwheels cross the floor... #

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The Beatles and the beat boom had been going for...

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certainly three or four years.

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'It was all getting a bit tired.'

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# The crowd called out for more... #

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I wanted to do something and I didn't want it to be like anything else.

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Because we've had, we've had it all.

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"This, I've never heard this before, really." That's what you think to yourself. Therefore, "I like this."

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# We called out for another drink

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# The waiter brought the tray

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-# And so it was... #

-And so it was that later, only two weeks later,

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as the miller told his tale, The Beatles released an album that was a concept,

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a world unto itself.

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A blueprint for progressive rock.

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MUSIC: "Sgt Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (Reprise)" by The Beatles

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# We're Sgt Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band

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# We hope you have enjoyed the show... #

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A Whiter Shade Of Pale topped the British Singles Chart

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the very same week that Sgt Pepper announced the artistic triumph of the album.

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Bands were still making singles, you know, Cream - Strange Group,

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Pink Floyd - Arnold Layne and See Emily Play.

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And Procol Harum - Whiter Shade Of Pale.

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All of these records were amazing, creative, interesting singles

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and they also were incredibly, commercially successful.

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So the bands at that moment were getting the best of both worlds.

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It was Sgt Pepper, and the creative amazement of Sgt Pepper,

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that really convinced everybody that

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you can extend ideas onto an album, you can make concept albums.

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In fact, with the album, you can do almost exactly whatever you want.

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It was a strange mixture of...

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almost music hall and totally other-world music -

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that was the wonderful thing about it,

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it bridged the gap between the real world and this other world. And the other thing,

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it was all totally new. You'd never heard anything like that before.

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It's more fun in the record if there's a few sounds that

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you don't really know what they are and really they're just instruments

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only something happens on here. I couldn't tell you what cos we have a special man

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who sits here and goes like this and the guitar turns into a piano or something.

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And then you may say, "Why don't you use a piano?" Because the piano sounds like a guitar.

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If you look at the leap in terms of musical vocabulary and sophistication between

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the first Beatles album and Sgt Pepper which is like five years,

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everything that could be done with that form has already been done in those five years.

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Where else can you take it except to make it more and more sophisticated

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and more and more musically interesting or just

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for rock music to go on repeating itself and regurgitating itself?

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I liked... There's a lot of classical music I liked.

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I was always frightened of classical music and I never wanted to listen

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because it was Beethoven and Tchaikovsky and big words like that. And Schoenberg.

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I think a lot of people started to appreciate many other genres.

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Pop music is the classical music of now.

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Probably The Beatles had been listening to the same stuff,

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smoked the same cannabis... now and again.

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A lot of people were smoking on the quiet

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and they actually got furious when the hippies came along

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because suddenly there was a lot of notice being taken

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whereas they'd been quietly, you know, enjoying themselves for a long time.

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This was the era when if you wanted to try something, you could.

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You knew a mate who had some hashish,

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or you knew a mate who had some LSD.

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But you had to be careful. If you were very cautious and took very little of these things

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you could meddle and not lose your mind and end up in hospital.

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Cannabis was a stimulant. And it did enable you to hear a lot more in the music.

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It was there, you weren't imagining it. It was in there. But you concentrated more on listening to it.

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What came from that was the ability for people who would normally...

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copy American music suddenly wanted to express themselves.

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And so you had this strange thing at that time that almost every band had a unique sound.

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Nobody sounded quite like anyone else.

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# Dynamic explosions in my brain, shatter me to drops of rain

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# Falling from a yellow sky... #

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I moved across to what was really a new movement in music

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which was the psychedelia period.

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-# Hold me but as I jerk... #

-And that was Arthur Brown and The Crazy World of Arthur Brown.

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I mean, we didn't know what it was and we were in it!

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It was pretty confrontational.

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For that time, shocking.

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Arthur's concept was basically about the beginning of time, the beginning of life.

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I am the god of hellfire and I bring you...

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The original for the make-up was the death mask, which goes back

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right through English history and further than that.

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# Fire, to destroy all you've done... #

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It was kind of deep, really. It was real, you know.

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-HE CHUCKLES

-Sometimes the bar would be filled with petrol and the roadie would

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stand there throwing matches, a good distance away, until one landed and then... BOOF!

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The British beat boom had been a predominantly Northern or working class phenomenon.

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But the architects of progressive rock were escapees from entirely different backgrounds.

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I suppose for a rock and roller, my education was completely wrong.

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My mum and dad, I mean, literally did go without food to send me to piano lessons.

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I never found that out till many, many years on and I went there when I was five.

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And I loved it.

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My family had a very varied take on music and they were very opinionated about it.

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Course I liked Cliff Richard & The Shadows and they were going,

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"Nonsense, you won't even know who these people are next year."

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MUSIC: "Do You Wanna Dance" by Cliff Richard & The Shadows

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I was in this attic and I put on this Vivaldi record, The Four Seasons or something, and I just flipped.

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I just went, "This is fantastic stuff."

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Studied Stravinsky's Dumbarton Oaks concerto. Did a lot of church music, sang in choirs.

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At the same time as being obsessively interested in...

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The Shadows.

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Went to the Guildhall.

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Went to the Royal Academy. Had lots of private tuition, LOTS of private tuition.

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But never REALLY wanted to be in an orchestra.

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Or a jazz group for that matter. I wanted to be a rock drummer.

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I got a scholarship to the Royal College of Music. And I went there and I left after a year and a half.

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I thought, "This is NUTS, this whole thing." The college were really, really anti any form of music

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that wasn't serious classical music.

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They would've either have become classical musicians,

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because a lot of them have classical training to grade whatever-it-is, or they would have become jazzers.

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But the jazz scene in Britain was never THAT exciting, it was always such hard work.

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'66, '67, jazz was in a bad place.

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Jazz was Free Jazz, it was squeaky-bum jazz, you know, going

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rhee-aiir! Squeaking away. And any red-blooded drummer,

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age 17, at that time, would've wanted to play with Jimi Hendrix,

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rather than the Spontaneous Music Ensemble.

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MUSIC: "Gypsy Eyes" by Jimi Hendrix

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But what made pop so attractive to some inexperienced young musicians was...

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well, the girls.

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There's this whole other half of the human race

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and, like it says in Some Like It Hot, "I tell you, it's a whole different sex." There was girls.

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Where were they? They were in caffs. What were they doing? They were sitting there.

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They had chalk-white pink lipstick on. And I thought,

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"I don't quite know what they're for or what you're meant to do with them,

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"but, I couldn't..." But I thought, you know...

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"There's something great about this lot." You couldn't talk to them, but what you could do

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was put on a Little Richard record on the jukebox and it would unify the room.

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You couldn't put on Bartok, Violin Concerto. That wouldn't have impressed anybody.

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It wouldn't have unified the room. Wouldn't have got everybody tapping their feet.

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CLASSICAL MUSIC PLAYS

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But the classical tradition had gripped a generation of rock 'n' rollers determined to show

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that pop music could also be profound and grown-up.

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In the winter of love, Procol Harum scored another first when they recorded an 18-minute suite

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In Held 'Twas In I, for their album Shine On Brightly.

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The search for meaning and significance was on.

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I said, "I think we should do, like, a great work."

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That's what I called it.

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In fact it was called O Magnum Harum for a while.

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MUSIC: "In Held 'Twas In I" by Procol Harum

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Start off at the beginning of the universe... And ended in Heaven.

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And all the trials and tribulations that come in between.

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With a bit of sitar chucked in.

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MUSIC CONTINUES

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You know, somebody had to do it, I suppose. If it hadn't been Procol Harum at that point,

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it would have been somebody, you know, four weeks later.

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Now... We can actually write music.

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And if we're gonna write music, the model is classical music

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and classical music has extended forms, sonatas,

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symphonies. So we're gonna do structures and pieces that last a long time

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that try and give us that credibility, musically.

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The Nice, originally PP Arnold's backing band, set the controls for the heart of classical music,

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jazz and the modern stage musical on their maiden voyage into progressive rock.

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Front man Keith Emerson was the Hendrix of the Hammond organ, making his instrument scream and sigh

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in dazzling displays of technical virtuosity and crazed physicality.

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Their first unlikely hit was a seven-minute version

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of Leonard Bernstein's America, from West Side Story,

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transformed into an instrumental, prog rock protest song.

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MUSIC: "America" by The Nice

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CHURCH ORGAN MUSIC

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Progressive music didn't only come from the big cities.

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Welcome to Canterbury, the posh cathedral town that seeded those musicians that would, in time,

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grow into Soft Machine, Caravan, Hatfield & The North and Matching Mole.

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All stemming from a little-known local group called The Wilde Flowers.

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The Wilde Flowers didn't do loadsa gigs, probably only about

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one a fortnight, maybe one a week. Cos we weren't very popular! No.

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Those lads were very much into Thelonious Monk, John Coltrane, Dizzy Gillespie.

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We tried to do sort-of danceable versions of that kind of music, you see.

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Just to be different and awkward.

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MUSIC: "Impotence" by The Wilde Flowers

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# I like me, I like you and the things that we do...

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# Ba-ba-ba! That we do... #

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I don't like it if people think that we thought that...

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clever grammar school-y people came in and thought we we're doing

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something better than mere pop. We were awestruck by pop music.

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By the magnificence of Beatles, of Motown and really we just wanted to participate in it.

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But getting our little group together, our own dialects of other stuff we'd picked up

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crept into what we did. I'm playing beat drums and I'm trying to sound like a rhythm and blues drummer,

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but I had been listening to all these sophisticated jazz drummers

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and I was sort-of cluttered with...with stuff.

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You can't pretend you haven't heard Elvin Jones if you have.

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Soft Machine was the first band to emerge from The Wilde Flowers.

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They headed for London's newly established underground clubs,

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playing with groups such as Arthur Brown and Pink Floyd at Middle Earth and UFO.

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In that club you got everything from vaudeville

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to rock, to jazz, to electronics, to pure percussion

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to theatre, to poetry, to dance, to naked people wandering around.

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That was what we all gravitated towards, UFO and Middle Earth.

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That was the... the culture that defined us.

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There were all these stoned people listening to music played by stoned bands.

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And as long as everybody was stoned, everybody thought it was really good.

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MUSIC: "We Did It Again" by Soft Machine

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We hadn't really got enough tunes...to just do songs.

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So, we thought, "Oh, I remember, what do you do about that? I know, what do jazz musicians do?"

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They improvise. So you just pick a couple of chords in there and just...keep going on them.

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And so tunes become ten-minute events.

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MUSIC CONTINUES

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This is not because we've all become virtuosos, not in our case.

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It's because we haven't got enough tunes to stretch one-and-a-half hours.

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Our organist Mike Ratledge was older than us, taller and his father had been a headmaster

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and who had an Oxford degree, so therefore assumed immediate seniority.

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Well, this is the fuzzbox which sounds like this...

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HE PLAYS DISTORTED NOTES

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Once he puts his fuzz on, you had to keep playing, you couldn't take your hand off.

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Cos it would start feeding back. So he developed a solo style

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of absolutely continual "lul-uhl-lul-uhl" notes without a single break-in.

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MUSIC: "Why Am I So Short" by Soft Machine

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So we can do these trance-like things,

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with sound going on for ages and ages without a single pause.

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Just round the corner from UFO, the more established Marquee Club was already showcasing bands

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that would become the virtuoso kings of progressive rock.

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Like Jethro Tull.

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And Yes, fronted by vocalist Jon Anderson.

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I went to see Yes with 30 other people at The Marquee one night.

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And guy next to me said, "You know they're looking for a drummer?" And I met Jon, introduced myself.

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He said, "Oh, yeah, man, yeah. Give us a call,

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"come back next Tuesday. We'll give you audition." And I never called, you know.

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And I often wonder if I'd called, what would have happened to my life!

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MUSIC: "Beyond And Before" by Yes

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Life in Yes, for jazz drummer Bill Bruford, was like this...

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The group started as a cover band, like most groups do.

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You start playing Beatles tunes and a couple of tunes by The Fifth Dimension, like you would.

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And then we got bored and extend a section.

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"It's quite good up to here but let's stick in another bit here where it goes rhythm and blues."

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And we'd stick that in. And then the thing would get longer and longer and longer

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until eventually somebody inevitably said,

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"Let's make one up ourselves."

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Jon was a very keen listener and absorber, bit like blotting paper, he absorbed music.

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# Time like gold dust brings... #

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He was mad keen on Sibelius and TV themes.

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He'd start singing things, "Jon, this is the theme to Bonanza!"

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And he'd say, "Oh, never mind, stick it in!"

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MUSIC: "No Opportunity Necessary, No Experience Needed" by Yes

0:23:130:23:17

Yes never said no. They stitched movies soundtracks to folk music

0:23:190:23:24

to modern jazz to classical music to TV themes...

0:23:240:23:27

And the only people we didn't concern ourselves with at all, I think, was the audience.

0:23:270:23:33

# Step out in the night when you're lonely

0:23:330:23:38

# Listening for the sound city ears don't hear... #

0:23:390:23:43

If you couldn't make the London clubs,

0:23:450:23:47

couldn't find progressive rock albums in the shops and rarely heard it on the radio,

0:23:470:23:51

you could, by the end of the sixties,

0:23:510:23:54

see every band in one glorious drug-and-rain-drenched experience

0:23:540:23:57

at a pop festival near you.

0:23:570:23:59

MUSIC: "Dharma For One" by Jethro Tull

0:23:590:24:02

This was the first golden age of the British music festival.

0:24:090:24:13

A new community in which no-one was more welcome than the progressive rock group.

0:24:130:24:17

Everybody had a festival.

0:24:190:24:22

You went along and played and heard all different types of band.

0:24:220:24:26

And people would listen to a jazz orientated band, a hard rock band,

0:24:260:24:31

a dance-type band. And they would sit there and listen to the lot.

0:24:310:24:35

Certainly, the outdoor live experience was generally freeing.

0:24:370:24:41

It always seemed like it was a sunny day,

0:24:460:24:49

and the weather was gorgeous. Everybody was smiling and happy.

0:24:490:24:53

It was a very sort of hippy thing.

0:24:530:24:55

It was really music. It really was music.

0:24:570:25:01

It wasn't any other reason.

0:25:010:25:03

Yeah, people got a bit smashed, and bonked in the open air,

0:25:030:25:07

and that was just the road crew.

0:25:070:25:09

MUSIC: "The Court Of The Crimson King" by King Crimson

0:25:090:25:12

The great Suffolk seaside town of Aldeburgh,

0:25:230:25:27

now home to Pete Sinfield, original lyricist for the intimidating new band

0:25:270:25:31

he inadvertently named King Crimson.

0:25:310:25:35

We had an ethos in Crimson.

0:25:370:25:38

I'm sure people like Gentle Giant and other bands...

0:25:380:25:41

we just refused to play anything that sounded anything like a Tin Pan Alley.

0:25:410:25:46

If it sounded at all popular, it was out.

0:25:460:25:49

So it had to be complicated.

0:25:490:25:50

It had to be more expansive chords, it had to have strange influences.

0:25:500:25:55

If it sounded too simple, we would make it more complicated.

0:25:550:26:00

We would play it in 7/8, in 5/8, just to show off.

0:26:000:26:02

# For the court of the Crimson King... #

0:26:020:26:08

Crimson's first big show-off opportunity came in July 1969,

0:26:080:26:13

when they supported the Rolling Stones in Hyde Park.

0:26:130:26:16

Unleashing their unique, highly-rehearsed sound on a totally unprepared audience.

0:26:160:26:22

They played Schizoid Man particularly well on that day.

0:26:260:26:29

They really steamed it. It was a monster.

0:26:290:26:32

# Blood rack, barbed wire

0:26:360:26:39

# Politicians funeral pyre

0:26:390:26:43

# Innocence raped with napalm fire

0:26:430:26:46

# 21st century schizoid man... #

0:26:460:26:50

We played Mars, or Schizoid Man, one of our heavier pieces.

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And there was a silence at the end.

0:27:060:27:09

And no-one knew whether to clap or not.

0:27:090:27:11

"That was good"! Then they would go...

0:27:120:27:15

HE IMITATES LOUD APPLAUSE

0:27:150:27:16

That was the sort of stuff we liked. We really liked shocking people.

0:27:160:27:19

Unbelievable.

0:27:250:27:27

We were scared to death.

0:27:270:27:29

No-one knew that rock musicians could play like that.

0:27:290:27:32

To execute rapid passages deafeningly loud...

0:27:370:27:40

MUSIC: "21st Century Schizoid Man" by King Crimson

0:27:400:27:43

..then exactly the same passage, everybody playing in unison thing,

0:27:440:27:48

but very quiet.

0:27:480:27:49

I mean, this was scary. This was the best group in the world.

0:27:520:27:55

Mike Giles one night was playing the cymbals at Mothers in Birmingham,

0:27:570:28:00

he ended up playing the cymbals like this...

0:28:000:28:03

..till there was no noise at all.

0:28:040:28:06

And he just...poised, and didn't do anything.

0:28:060:28:09

And we thought, "Wow!" I thought...

0:28:090:28:11

And Fripp panicked, and took off his boot,

0:28:110:28:14

and started banging the stage with his boot because he couldn't stand the tension!

0:28:140:28:18

The amount of ego and power and experience that went into that first album was extraordinary.

0:28:200:28:25

Maybe that's inherent in that,

0:28:250:28:28

and that strength was the seeds of its destruction.

0:28:280:28:32

MUSIC: "Ride" by Caravan

0:28:370:28:40

The shock and awe that both defined and deified King Crimson

0:28:440:28:48

were completely absent from the whimsical,

0:28:480:28:50

slightly stoned sound still emanating from Canterbury.

0:28:500:28:54

The remaining Wilde Flowers now took the road out of town

0:29:000:29:04

as a band called Caravan.

0:29:040:29:06

When half of the Wilde Flowers went off and formed Soft Machine,

0:29:110:29:16

and managed to get a record deal,

0:29:160:29:19

we thought that perhaps we could do the same,

0:29:190:29:21

so we were very much looking to see how they were doing,

0:29:210:29:26

trying to do the same thing ourselves.

0:29:260:29:28

I suppose with the Canterbury scene, you have progressive music at its most melodic.

0:29:280:29:32

It's do with these people being able to write quite good tunes

0:29:320:29:37

being in contact, I think, with a kind of British melodic tradition

0:29:370:29:41

that maybe has more to do with 20th-century classical music

0:29:410:29:44

than with pop music.

0:29:440:29:46

You hear distant echoes of Vaughan Williams and Britten and that kind of thing.

0:29:460:29:50

# Sitting in my treetop world

0:29:500:29:55

# Doing nothing at all... #

0:29:550:29:58

Certainly the surrounding countryside and what-have-you,

0:29:580:30:02

we seemed to get a bit of inspiration from all that.

0:30:020:30:05

Sitting about in the sunshine.

0:30:050:30:07

Making up bits of music.

0:30:070:30:09

# Envy me all you want... #

0:30:090:30:14

Living off girlfriends, you know.

0:30:140:30:17

Great fun.

0:30:170:30:19

# Join me any time if you please... #

0:30:190:30:25

Court jesters, crimson kings, lost souls and magic men.

0:30:300:30:36

This was a broad church.

0:30:360:30:38

A very English music, infused with childhood fantasies

0:30:380:30:41

and the quirkiness of a small island race.

0:30:410:30:44

Spike Milligan, Edward Lear, Lewis Carroll, stuff like that.

0:30:470:30:53

And we had our own kind of popular surrealism

0:30:530:30:59

right from the humorous poets and writers

0:30:590:31:02

of the late 19th, early 20th century.

0:31:020:31:05

A long time before they invented surrealism on the continent,

0:31:050:31:08

we had Lewis Carroll!

0:31:080:31:09

At that time, we were making quite a large effort to be English.

0:31:110:31:15

Probably why we didn't go down too well in Germany when we were there!

0:31:180:31:22

MUSIC: "Horizons" by Genesis

0:31:270:31:29

Charterhouse Public School.

0:31:350:31:37

A group of young scholars, inspired by the ambitious compositions of Procul Harum and King Crimson,

0:31:370:31:43

embraced this new, mature pop music

0:31:430:31:46

as a way of dodging the professions for which they'd been groomed.

0:31:460:31:50

We had a bit of a tag over us, you know. Public schoolboys.

0:31:500:31:53

"What are they doing? What do they know about music?

0:31:530:31:56

"Where's their pain?" sort of thing.

0:31:560:31:58

We were in a school that was designing people to go into the civil service.

0:32:020:32:07

You often talk about getting into music

0:32:070:32:09

as an escape from poverty and stuff,

0:32:090:32:11

which perhaps it was for a certain kind of people

0:32:110:32:13

in the late '50s and early '60s.

0:32:130:32:15

For us, it was a kind of escape from a totally pre-determined career choice, if you like.

0:32:150:32:21

I was banned from playing the guitar for my entire time at Charterhouse.

0:32:250:32:29

I don't quite know why. I think they saw the guitar as a symbol of the revolution.

0:32:290:32:34

And I was gonna start it off in my house with my guitar.

0:32:340:32:36

So I was always under the thumb of my house-master for that reason.

0:32:360:32:41

They wanted to be songwriters.

0:32:470:32:50

But bands were now making their own material.

0:32:500:32:53

So they formed their own band, called it Genesis,

0:32:530:32:55

and did what every other group now seemed to be doing...

0:32:550:32:58

retreated to the country to get their heads together.

0:32:580:33:03

There was a phrase, "Getting together in the country, man,"

0:33:040:33:08

but actually, I think being removed from the business was quite important for us.

0:33:080:33:12

The time at Christmas Cottage was where we sort of became a band

0:33:130:33:17

and started writing with our own sound.

0:33:170:33:20

And it's what came naturally to us, really.

0:33:210:33:24

We were embedded in English and obviously European classical traditions as well,

0:33:240:33:28

but also, in terms of a lot of the lyrical stuff we would take from English things,

0:33:280:33:33

influenced by TS Eliot and fairy stories, and stuff like that.

0:33:330:33:36

People forget there weren't that many bands in those days.

0:33:360:33:40

It was like a blank canvas. So as long as you were half-decent,

0:33:400:33:43

and had a bit of a sound, and were good live,

0:33:430:33:47

'you had a chance it was a career, you know.'

0:33:470:33:50

We like audiences that sit down and listen to the music

0:33:500:33:53

rather than get drunk and pick up girls.

0:33:530:33:56

We like audiences that will sit down and listen.

0:33:560:33:59

MUSIC: "White Mountain" by Genesis

0:33:590:34:01

While Genesis focused on songwriting,

0:34:050:34:08

other bands were mastering their instruments and finding new ones.

0:34:080:34:11

Technical virtuosity was fast becoming the essential protein in progressive rock's DNA.

0:34:120:34:18

I just don't believe that a drummer should just keep time.

0:34:180:34:21

Cos if you want time, buy a metronome.

0:34:210:34:25

Don't come and speak to me!

0:34:250:34:26

I think music... you make it for yourself.

0:34:260:34:29

If the chap next door likes it, isn't that fantastic?

0:34:290:34:31

I do think self-indulgence

0:34:330:34:35

is a good thing in art, because if you're trying

0:34:350:34:39

to please other people all the time,

0:34:390:34:40

you just stick to the same model all the time.

0:34:400:34:43

Nobody hears anything new, so nobody expects anything new.

0:34:430:34:46

You play a note, and you project it out.

0:34:480:34:51

Even if it's one note, it can go "donnnng"... hmm.

0:34:510:34:54

You can make it go...

0:34:540:34:56

-WITH DEEP ECHO:

-"Donnnng"!

0:34:560:34:57

It's more than just playing the instrument.

0:34:570:35:01

It's not cool today to play your instrument.

0:35:030:35:05

Jangly guitar music...

0:35:050:35:07

It's jangly! That's what you do.

0:35:070:35:09

But to actually play a solo, something nice,

0:35:090:35:12

something that speaks, something that gives you a little kind of emotion,

0:35:120:35:16

a little buzz, makes your hair stand up on the back of your neck,

0:35:160:35:19

that's not cool. That's not part of this age.

0:35:190:35:22

But this was the dawning of the age of the highly-accomplished player.

0:35:240:35:28

The name musician.

0:35:280:35:30

In 1970, Crimson man Greg Lake,

0:35:310:35:34

plus Nice man Keith Emerson,

0:35:340:35:37

plus Crazy World man Carl Palmer,

0:35:370:35:39

equalled bass, keyboards and drums,

0:35:390:35:42

equalled prog rock's first supergroup,

0:35:420:35:45

equalled ELP.

0:35:450:35:47

MUSIC: "Hoedown" by Emerson, Lake & Palmer

0:35:470:35:50

We weren't a rock band, we weren't a blues band.

0:35:570:36:00

Emerson, Lake & Palmer was a kind of...was a European group that played classical adaptations.

0:36:000:36:06

Yes, we could rock out. But we didn't hang our hat on being a rock band.

0:36:060:36:11

In actual fact, it really was a thoroughbred musical statement we were making.

0:36:110:36:16

You need the playing expertise so that your colleagues know that you are the bee's knees,

0:36:180:36:23

but just give them some entertainment as well, and that's what it's all about.

0:36:230:36:27

That's my philosophy.

0:36:270:36:28

I think I'd call it showbusiness, actually!

0:36:360:36:39

Somebody jumping over their organ, or sticking in knives

0:36:390:36:43

to hold down a fifth or a fourth, a chord.

0:36:430:36:45

Musically it's valid,

0:36:450:36:48

visually it's right on it,

0:36:480:36:49

and it is rock'n'roll!

0:36:490:36:51

ELP's technical expertise and crowd-pleasing antics

0:36:580:37:01

elevated musicianship and ticket sales to new heights.

0:37:010:37:05

Progressive rock popped its head out of the underground

0:37:050:37:08

and glimpsed not only showbusiness, but big business.

0:37:080:37:11

Progressive rock wizard Rick Wakeman

0:37:140:37:16

was amazed when he first saw what Yes were now up to

0:37:160:37:19

with their psychedelic guitarist Steve Howe.

0:37:190:37:22

Everything that happened in the '70s, this is it,

0:37:260:37:28

was to do with psychedelia, you see.

0:37:280:37:31

Psychedelia may have quit as a fashion in 1968,

0:37:310:37:36

but when I joined Yes,

0:37:360:37:39

I was still a psychedelic guitarist in my mind.

0:37:390:37:42

I would not play blues cliche for love nor money.

0:37:420:37:45

I was just bowled over, because everything was wrong.

0:37:490:37:53

Bill Bruford had the most incredible unusual tuning of the kit,

0:37:550:37:59

and they mic'ed it up. No-one mic'ed it up then.

0:37:590:38:02

And it was the most fantastic drum sound I'd ever heard.

0:38:020:38:06

MUSIC: "Yours Is No Disgrace" by Yes

0:38:060:38:08

There were funky elements, there were classical elements,

0:38:140:38:17

there'd be a free section, or some sort of psychedelic vamp or funk thing,

0:38:170:38:21

cos we liked Sly and the Family Stone, so we needed some of that.

0:38:210:38:24

Chris Squire. Most bass players try to get as low as they could, to make your trousers flap.

0:38:280:38:32

Chris wiped out all the middle, and had all the treble turned up,

0:38:320:38:36

and used a Rickenbacker while everyone else was using Fenders.

0:38:360:38:40

I thought, "That's outrageous"!

0:38:400:38:41

And then Steve Howe, when everybody else was using big stacks,

0:38:410:38:45

had a little Fender Twin, and a Gibson semi-acoustic.

0:38:450:38:51

I played any kind of guitar you could think of that I liked.

0:38:550:38:58

So I went on to mandolin, steel, and all the kinds, six, twelve, Spanish...

0:38:580:39:04

"Eh, what? What's going on?"

0:39:040:39:07

And then, of course, at those times, every lead singer was six foot six,

0:39:070:39:10

long greasy black hair, you could smell 'em from the back row,

0:39:100:39:13

and along comes this little fella who's got an alto voice.

0:39:130:39:16

# If the summer change to winter, Yours is no disgrace... #

0:39:160:39:24

Wakeman wanted in.

0:39:270:39:29

PHONE RINGS

0:39:290:39:30

But when he got the call, it wasn't an easy decision.

0:39:300:39:33

On the same day that Yes asked me to join,

0:39:340:39:37

David Bowie asked me to form Spiders From Mars with Mick Ronson,

0:39:370:39:43

um...which, when I look back, that was one hell of a choice!

0:39:430:39:50

# There's a starman waiting in the sky... #

0:39:500:39:54

Progressive music wasn't the only gig in town.

0:39:540:39:58

Top Of The Pops, regarded as a sell-out by any self-respecting prog rocker,

0:39:580:40:04

was by now home to artists such as Bowie, Roxy Music and T Rex.

0:40:040:40:09

Bands still making singles hits, and girls dance.

0:40:090:40:12

For Robert Wyatt, the Soft Machine party was all but over.

0:40:190:40:23

The band had matured into a jazz-fusion quartet

0:40:230:40:27

with little sympathy for his pop sensibilities.

0:40:270:40:30

Goodbye, the UFO Club...

0:40:310:40:33

..hello, the Albert Hall.

0:40:340:40:36

You know, pretty respected, and so on, but nobody's dancing any more,

0:40:440:40:48

so I sort of thought, aww, you know,

0:40:480:40:49

I never really quite made it as a proper pop musician!

0:40:490:40:52

We thought we were a pop band!

0:40:550:40:58

It's just that... I try to make normal records, they just don't come out like that.

0:40:580:41:03

We could have made a really good pop LP, and been in the charts,

0:41:100:41:14

and been in those films about the '60s.

0:41:140:41:17

And we blew it.

0:41:170:41:18

Wyatt was eventually sacked from his own group.

0:41:240:41:27

I think I resented it for a while,

0:41:280:41:31

and when I got cross,

0:41:310:41:33

I used to feel about Soft Machine the same way that Palestinians think about Jerusalem.

0:41:330:41:38

"This once was mine!"

0:41:380:41:41

Without Wyatt, Soft Machine moved into purely instrumental compositions,

0:41:460:41:50

avoiding the problems of lyrics.

0:41:500:41:52

"My baby done left me" never did work with complex musical structures.

0:41:530:41:57

This music didn't want the blues.

0:41:590:42:01

It needed fantasy and myth.

0:42:010:42:03

Cupid meets Psyche,

0:42:040:42:05

not boy meets girl.

0:42:050:42:08

We hadn't really experienced much outside education.

0:42:110:42:14

So I suppose that's partly why we wrote about...fantasy lyrics,

0:42:140:42:18

different situations about life rather than boy/girl things.

0:42:180:42:23

I had come from a public school background,

0:42:230:42:26

very self-conscious.

0:42:260:42:27

Could never have expressed that in a song in those days.

0:42:270:42:30

So it was much easier to go back to Greek myths and write things like that.

0:42:300:42:34

So we plundered Ovid and anybody else we could find. We were all the same, really.

0:42:340:42:39

There was an audience of newly-educated university students

0:42:420:42:45

who were crying out for something

0:42:450:42:47

that they had read in science fiction and they wanted a musical version of that.

0:42:470:42:51

And of course, there was The Lord Of The Rings, and Mervyn Peake and Gormenghast,

0:42:510:42:55

and people wanted that in their music.

0:42:550:42:58

Ambitious music demanded ambitious presentation.

0:43:020:43:05

What began with Sgt Pepper now became the glorious norm.

0:43:080:43:12

Albums adorned with lyrics, paintings, cut-outs, pop-ups and pull-outs.

0:43:120:43:17

The gatefold sleeve opened like a window onto brave new worlds,

0:43:210:43:26

and provided the perfect prop on which to roll a joint.

0:43:260:43:30

Yeah...

0:43:330:43:35

I think the album cover, the artwork, and a vinyl...

0:43:360:43:38

when you bought that, it was a piece you could hold, you could look at it,

0:43:380:43:42

it was big, you know.

0:43:420:43:44

When it suddenly went down to the jewel case, to the CD...

0:43:440:43:47

HE SIGHS

0:43:470:43:49

You couldn't have the detail, because it was too small. I needed one for each eye.

0:43:490:43:53

It's hard not to start sounding like, you know, "In my day... the gatefold sleeve..."

0:43:530:43:58

but it's changed now, you know.

0:43:580:44:00

Music is now...it's not something that people hold, the article.

0:44:000:44:05

It was a whole event of getting an album.

0:44:050:44:09

Getting your album home, putting an album on, reading the bits and pieces,

0:44:090:44:13

learning a bit about it... it was absolutely fantastic.

0:44:130:44:16

And we lost that. And when we lost that, we lost an awful lot.

0:44:160:44:20

So, welcome back to days of future past.

0:44:220:44:26

This is the home of Roger Dean.

0:44:290:44:31

The artist who most successfully translated progressive rock's soundscapes into landscapes.

0:44:310:44:36

He gave Yes their distinctive brand logo,

0:44:390:44:42

and imagined worlds that at the time still seemed like beautiful possibilities.

0:44:420:44:46

Whether you're designing just a box of matches,

0:44:500:44:53

you're predicting one tiny, miniscule part of the future.

0:44:530:44:56

I think what's terribly astonishing and disappointing

0:44:590:45:03

is how little the promise of the future turned out.

0:45:030:45:06

In the '60s, people walked on the moon, in the '60s, there was colour television.

0:45:060:45:10

And no-one has gone back to the moon.

0:45:100:45:13

I think people would have been shocked

0:45:130:45:16

if they could see the year 2008 from a 1968 perspective,

0:45:160:45:21

at how astonishingly little the world had improved

0:45:210:45:27

compared to our ambitions and expectations.

0:45:270:45:30

Had we planned it properly in the '60s, this is how it might have turned out!

0:45:300:45:36

I try and find out what was motivating them to make the music,

0:45:410:45:47

and work on the same sort of ideas, if that was possible.

0:45:470:45:51

Wasn't always possible, but sometimes it was.

0:45:510:45:53

Sometimes there was a great synergy between the ideas that motivated the music-making

0:45:530:46:00

and the ideas that motivated the art.

0:46:000:46:03

But it was not the music itself. It was the ideas behind it.

0:46:030:46:08

I was lucky that the images and the music seemed to be an absolute perfect fit sometimes,

0:46:080:46:15

when in actual fact, the process was beyond analysis.

0:46:150:46:20

Yes recording sessions were also moving beyond analysis.

0:46:230:46:27

The hippy democracy the band chose as a way of life

0:46:290:46:32

made for difficulties in the studio.

0:46:320:46:35

Their fifth album, Close To The Edge,

0:46:350:46:37

took over three months to perfect.

0:46:370:46:40

It took three months because Simon & Garfunkel

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had done Bridge Over Troubled Water, which took three months.

0:46:430:46:47

We heard this and we thought,

0:46:470:46:48

"By golly, our next record's going to take three months and a day if it kills us!"

0:46:480:46:52

So of course, this was the infantile way we behaved,

0:46:520:46:55

we took three months and a day.

0:46:550:46:58

We established a whole new plane of length of how long we play.

0:46:590:47:03

So we've got some musicians here,

0:47:030:47:05

we've got a lot of writers in the band, cos Bill wrote, everybody wrote in the band.

0:47:050:47:09

"Can I trade your idea for my idea?" You've got five guys writing...

0:47:090:47:14

Imagine five guys writing a book!

0:47:140:47:15

Steve said, "I've got this silly little line that I've had lying around for ages,

0:47:150:47:20

going, "Ding-ding-ding-doo, de-doo, diddly-iddly-um-dum..."

0:47:200:47:23

It was all horse-trading, muscle power, strongest guy, thickest skin.

0:47:230:47:28

Chris said, "I've got this...bass run."

0:47:280:47:32

Diddly-iddly-um-dum-dum-dum-dum.

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And that was it, really. And I went, "Anything else?"

0:47:350:47:39

And he went, "No, that's it."

0:47:390:47:41

Diddly-iddly-um-dum-dum-dum-dum.

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And when we got to, what turned out to be for me, the high spot, which was Close To The Edge,

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really, I don't know how that record got made.

0:47:480:47:51

Some days, we got into the rehearsal rooms after, like, yesterday,

0:47:540:47:57

we got in the next day and said, "Does anybody remember how we went from the last verse into that?"

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"No"!

0:48:020:48:04

I said, "I want that bit on the end of that, and I don't want to do it in that key,

0:48:040:48:07

"because it works nice with the way I play it on guitar on that,"

0:48:070:48:10

so they'd say, "We'll get a cup of tea, Rick, you work out how we get from there to there"!

0:48:100:48:15

We couldn't do a song in five minutes. It went to ten minutes on the Yes album.

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And we got to Close To The Edge and we thought, "This just isn't long enough! This is like...a symphony!"

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# Down at the edge, round by the corner

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# Not right away, not right away

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# Close to the edge, down by the river

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# Not right away... #

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In those days there were two or three albums that weren't so good,

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getting you towards the winner.

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The one that the thing existed for, which was Close To The Edge.

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That's the moment you exist for in a rock group, and it's terrific!

0:48:480:48:52

And you think, "That's the cookie. That's the one, right there! Done deal! I'm gone!"

0:48:520:48:57

I left then.

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Bruford defected to the less sunny, less democratic regime of Robert Fripp's all-new King Crimson.

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In 1972, this was akin to going over the Berlin Wall into East Germany.

0:49:120:49:16

No papers required, just extreme chops.

0:49:200:49:23

Everything you've heard about King Crimson is true. It's a terrifying place.

0:49:240:49:28

Whatever you do before you join King Crimson,

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would you please not do it when you're in the band?

0:49:430:49:46

You're required really to develop a new style, if you can,

0:49:550:49:59

specifically for that group.

0:49:590:50:01

The implication being that you would play that way in King Crimson,

0:50:010:50:06

and King Crimson alone.

0:50:060:50:07

Yes was an endless debate

0:50:090:50:11

about whether it should be F-natural in the bass with a G-sharp on top or should it be the other way round?

0:50:110:50:16

In King Crimson, almost nothing was said.

0:50:160:50:19

You're just supposed to know.

0:50:190:50:22

Robert Fripp was a purist.

0:50:310:50:32

Unlike the Jimmy Pages of rock, he didn't brandish the guitar like a phallus.

0:50:320:50:38

His was more like a probe. An instrument of science, not sex.

0:50:380:50:42

And to use it properly,

0:50:420:50:45

you had to sit down.

0:50:450:50:47

The very first few gigs we did,

0:50:480:50:50

Robert didn't sit down. And he was very unhappy,

0:50:500:50:54

because in rehearsals, he'd have his stool and his thing,

0:50:540:50:57

that was how he'd been taught,

0:50:570:50:59

and Robert's very strict about, "That's how it should be,"

0:50:590:51:03

and eventually we'd had to give him a stool, because he was sulking.

0:51:030:51:08

And he was so happy on that stool.

0:51:080:51:11

Robert's not a gyrator, is he?

0:51:110:51:13

He may be many things, but he's not a gyrator.

0:51:130:51:16

And Robert's idea of sexy is to smile with his glasses and...

0:51:160:51:22

Fripp wasn't alone.

0:51:250:51:26

Sexual energy, the very lifeblood of rock'n'roll,

0:51:260:51:30

was conspicuously absent from the prog rock stage.

0:51:300:51:33

Bands like Egg had enough on their hands just playing the complicated arpeggios.

0:51:340:51:38

Well, we weren't very sexy,

0:51:400:51:42

and we regarded overt sexual display as extremely uncool.

0:51:420:51:48

It was something...rather humiliating to have to admit to

0:51:480:51:54

that we were actually trying to get into girls' knickers.

0:51:540:51:57

We wouldn't admit to it. It was very duplicitous, very dishonest.

0:51:570:52:00

But there you are. We certainly wouldn't do it on stage.

0:52:000:52:03

I would have been completely unconvincing!

0:52:030:52:08

Imagine me doing pelvic thrusts on stage while playing in 25/8. No.

0:52:080:52:14

No sex on stage, and no sex backstage.

0:52:190:52:23

All the groupies were at Led Zeppelin concerts,

0:52:230:52:26

not waiting for progressive rock maestros

0:52:260:52:29

to demonstrate the delights of the diminished chord.

0:52:290:52:31

The rock bands in America had groupies. We didn't really have any.

0:52:310:52:36

The pop stars had groupies. We wanted groupies too.

0:52:360:52:38

We never had any Egg groupies. We never had any girl groupies at all.

0:52:380:52:44

No girls ever came to the side of the stage after a gig.

0:52:450:52:50

Sad, isn't it?

0:52:510:52:53

When we went to America, we had lots of groupies.

0:52:530:52:57

By the dozens!

0:52:570:52:59

Because they loved our English accents,

0:52:590:53:02

and the fact we weren't American rock stars and we were something different,

0:53:020:53:06

and exotic to them.

0:53:060:53:08

-IN AMERICAN ACCENT:

-"We love your accent! Y'all wanna take a shower with us?"

0:53:100:53:13

-IN POSH ENGLISH ACCENT:

-"What, both of you? Gosh!"

0:53:130:53:16

Progressive rock audiences certainly weren't screamers.

0:53:190:53:22

They were an infinitely patient lot.

0:53:220:53:24

Too much yang, not enough yin.

0:53:240:53:27

What we started to realise... our audience were nice and reserved people, really.

0:53:280:53:33

You know, fishing hats, greatcoats, bunch of albums under the arm...

0:53:330:53:38

Public school sixth-formers really, in greatcoats!

0:53:380:53:41

Ugly-looking audience, you know.

0:53:430:53:45

Pipe and glasses, yeah. Beards and stuff, we used to have.

0:53:450:53:48

It was very male-orientated.

0:53:480:53:51

I would say, in those days, 95% of our audience were male.

0:53:510:53:56

We never used to have females come and see us.

0:53:560:53:58

Not many girls, no. All chaps.

0:53:580:54:01

Lots of guys. No girls.

0:54:010:54:03

What is it, some kind of homo band? What is it?

0:54:030:54:05

It was the odd woman, mostly dragged along, who used to just look bewildered.

0:54:050:54:12

If the sexiness of '60s psychedelia was absent from the prog performance,

0:54:150:54:19

theatricality, used so effectively by Arthur Brown,

0:54:190:54:22

was becoming an essential part of any Genesis show.

0:54:220:54:26

Flower...

0:54:290:54:30

# If you go down to Willow Farm

0:54:330:54:35

# To look for butterflies, flutterbys, gutterflies... #

0:54:350:54:39

Initially it started off because the PA systems we had...only the voice went through the PA in those days...

0:54:390:54:45

were pretty bad, so you could never hear any lyrics.

0:54:450:54:48

Quite complex lyrics, and the lyrics were quite important.

0:54:480:54:51

So Peter felt he had to act them out a bit, so he started acting them out on stage.

0:54:510:54:55

MUSIC: "Supper's Ready" by Genesis

0:54:550:54:57

The prog rock movement really stimulated the visual aspect

0:55:060:55:09

as well as the playing and the conceptual side.

0:55:090:55:12

The visual thing was in. Theatre was important.

0:55:120:55:15

It started with that psychedelia period, Arthur Brown, wherever,

0:55:150:55:20

and went on and got developed.

0:55:200:55:22

MUSIC: "Brandenburger" by The Nice

0:55:220:55:25

Progressive rock now had such a loyal male record-buying fan base,

0:55:290:55:33

that both the major and independent labels happily signed new bands,

0:55:330:55:37

and let them record whatever they wanted.

0:55:370:55:40

They weren't even expected to make money at first.

0:55:400:55:43

This was the age of company investment and artistic freedom.

0:55:430:55:47

Egg recorded all their albums with zero interference.

0:55:530:55:56

MUSIC: "Fugue In D Minor" by Egg

0:55:560:55:59

They were interested in us,

0:55:590:56:03

because I think they thought we sounded a bit like The Nice,

0:56:030:56:06

who had already had a chart hit,

0:56:060:56:09

and they thought, "Maybe these guys can make us some money."

0:56:090:56:12

So they signed us up, but we had no input from them at all.

0:56:120:56:17

I don't think we spoke to any Decca executive ever.

0:56:170:56:21

I don't know why we got away with it, to be honest.

0:56:210:56:25

That was the style then.

0:56:250:56:27

For some reason, we set the precedent that we'd make an album,

0:56:270:56:31

when it's finished, we'll hand it over to the record label.

0:56:310:56:35

I mean, how nice is that? This is the album.

0:56:350:56:37

We were still allowed to do what we wanted to do by the record labels and management.

0:56:370:56:42

We were still allowed to come up with ridiculous ideas,

0:56:420:56:45

and then somehow find people who could make it happen.

0:56:450:56:48

Until groups like Yes, a song was taken and played.

0:56:480:56:53

A guitar player played the chords, a bass player played the roots,

0:56:530:56:57

a drummer played the rhythm and the singer sung the song.

0:56:570:57:00

Yes said, "No, no! We don't want to do it like that.

0:57:000:57:02

"We want to have a theme to start. We want to have a riff behind the song.

0:57:020:57:07

"We want to take out the chords of that section, cos everybody's heard those before. Stick some lines in."

0:57:070:57:12

More like an orchestral approach. Violins do this, the bassoons do that.

0:57:120:57:16

It's a thinking man's music, as opposed to a... just from the gut music.

0:57:160:57:22

Rock was just from the gut, I think.

0:57:220:57:24

Everyone was looking eagerly to see

0:57:240:57:27

what was new, what was gonna happen. That was definitely a heady time,

0:57:270:57:32

for sure, and one that I rather suspect we won't see again.

0:57:320:57:37

'72, '73, we were kind of in that prog rock camp.

0:57:370:57:43

Albeit we were the band that were making a joke of it.

0:57:430:57:46

We were doing a bit of a send-up of prog rock for a couple of albums back then.

0:57:460:57:51

Despite Jethro Tull's determination to stay outside the prog rock establishment,

0:57:570:58:01

their fourth album, Aqualung, seemed suspiciously profound.

0:58:010:58:05

It was not a concept album. People just ignored it. "It's a concept album!

0:58:100:58:16

"It's got a picture about God and stuff,

0:58:160:58:18

"and tramps and things... and...concept, yeah!"

0:58:180:58:21

So in the wake of that, I just thought, "Let's give them the mother of all concept albums."

0:58:210:58:26

Have a bit of fun with the whole thing, and do a spoof concept album

0:58:260:58:29

and pretend it was written by a 12-year-old precocious schoolboy,

0:58:290:58:33

and do the ridiculously convoluted 16-page cover,

0:58:330:58:37

which actually took longer to do than record the album, I think.

0:58:370:58:40

So it was a bit of a send-up. It was a pre-Spinal Tap moment.

0:58:400:58:46

# But your new shoes are worn at the heels

0:58:470:58:51

# And your suntan does rapidly peel

0:58:510:58:56

# And your wise men don't know how it feels

0:58:560:59:02

# To be thick as a brick. #

0:59:040:59:06

Ironically, the mischievous prank that was 1972's Thick As A Brick

0:59:060:59:11

is now hailed as the ultimate progressive rock album.

0:59:110:59:14

MUSIC: "Tubular Bells" by Mike Oldfield

0:59:170:59:20

That same year, multi-instrumentalist Mike Oldfield

0:59:200:59:23

was composing his progressive music masterwork -

0:59:230:59:26

the near-scientific experiment that was Tubular Bells,

0:59:260:59:29

for which he played all the 26 featured instruments himself.

0:59:290:59:32

A nightmare for me to explain to another musician how it should be played.

0:59:360:59:41

I can't tell them, "Play it like I would play it," cos they can't!

0:59:410:59:45

I made my own notes that only I could understand,

0:59:470:59:50

so I did sort of map it out.

0:59:500:59:51

It's a kind of piece of classical music, but with the instruments that I could play.

0:59:510:59:57

We were working in Abbey Road,

1:00:001:00:02

and Paul McCartney was in the big studio next door, number one,

1:00:021:00:06

and somebody told me he was playing everything.

1:00:061:00:09

And I understood from the technology we were using

1:00:091:00:13

that you could overdub one instrument while listening to the rest,

1:00:131:00:17

and I said, "Oh! He's probably doing it all like that! I can do that with my one!"

1:00:171:00:21

The album launched Virgin Records,

1:00:251:00:28

and was licensed in America with a help of an accompanying film

1:00:281:00:31

put together for the BBC's Old Grey Whistle Test.

1:00:311:00:33

It went on to sell 50 million copies worldwide.

1:00:331:00:37

Vintage footage, probably black-and-white era,

1:00:391:00:43

late '20s, early '30s, of skiers.

1:00:431:00:45

Pull out a reel of film, and, "Er, let's have a look at this one...

1:00:481:00:52

"Ah, this one might fit, yeah."

1:00:521:00:54

With the snow going up, the powder...

1:00:541:00:58

Dun-din-dun-din-dun-din-dun-din...

1:00:581:01:01

It was just beautiful.

1:01:011:01:04

That was incredible. Mike Oldfield, and just a part of Tubular Bells.

1:01:061:01:10

But commercial success and an underground reputation was still a contradiction.

1:01:161:01:21

A shy Oldfield couldn't deal with the attention, and took to the hills.

1:01:211:01:26

The press, in pursuit of Britain's biggest international progressive music success story,

1:01:261:01:32

were denied its star.

1:01:321:01:33

I left the human civilisation,

1:01:351:01:37

and lived with my sheep on a little house on the Welsh border.

1:01:371:01:42

Major psychological problems, nervous breakdown kind of things,

1:01:431:01:48

which wasn't very nice.

1:01:481:01:50

HE COUGHS

1:01:501:01:53

Upset a hell of a lot of people.

1:01:531:01:56

There was one journalist who was furious with me,

1:01:561:01:59

cos I wouldn't do an interview.

1:01:591:02:01

I was already so successful,

1:02:011:02:04

what difference would it have made if I had done 500 interviews and toured the world?

1:02:041:02:11

So I thought, "What are you all bothering me about? Leave me alone!"

1:02:111:02:15

If Oldfield rejected mainstream acceptance of his rarefied musical experiment,

1:02:311:02:36

other musicians embraced the success that British progressive rock was now achieving around the world.

1:02:361:02:42

Most significantly, in the States.

1:02:421:02:44

The Americans loved progressive rock. It was evidence of skill.

1:02:501:02:55

Now, Americans, funnily enough, are a little unlike us,

1:02:551:02:58

in the sense that they are not immediately embarrassed by an overt display of capability.

1:02:581:03:05

The Americans...fantastic at doing that. Brits, crap.

1:03:051:03:10

The Brits come to a solo...

1:03:101:03:11

"I can actually play a lot better than this but I won't, cos I don't want to show off,

1:03:111:03:15

"so I'll just stand in the corner."

1:03:151:03:17

Suddenly, we're doing... "Hey! Cop a load of this!"

1:03:171:03:20

Now, let's bang the drum for somebody who for three years running has been voted Drummer Of The Year.

1:03:251:03:30

He's just taken delivery of a new kit, and here he is to demonstrate it - Carl Palmer.

1:03:301:03:34

It was a stainless steel drum kit. I was sponsored by British Steel.

1:03:341:03:38

Eight different engineering companies were involved in the making of this kit,

1:03:381:03:42

which is the very first electronic stainless steel drum kit in existence.

1:03:421:03:46

'I decided to get a jeweller,'

1:03:461:03:48

using a dentist's drill, a chap called Paul Raven,

1:03:481:03:51

to do these hunting scenes on each of the drums.

1:03:511:03:54

I'd seen them on Purdey rifles, and I was quite impressed.

1:03:541:03:57

There's a beautiful squirrel, nibbling away there,

1:03:571:04:01

there's a fox, really nice, they are,

1:04:011:04:03

and there's even somewhere a hedgehog. There it is.

1:04:031:04:06

And they said, "Did you want the shells a quarter-inch thick or half-an-inch thick?"

1:04:061:04:10

I said, "What's the difference in price?" They said, "The same."

1:04:101:04:14

"I'll have half-an-inch." It's the '70s, excess,

1:04:141:04:16

not thinking it'll take two guys to lift the bass drum!

1:04:161:04:19

I know it weighs a couple of tons?

1:04:191:04:20

-Two-and-a-half.

-And you'll be taking this around the world on tour?

1:04:201:04:24

-Yes.

-How do you fly with it?

-Er, very well, thank you!

1:04:241:04:27

'The stage had to be reinforced.'

1:04:271:04:29

We didn't think of transport costs, we didn't think of weight.

1:04:291:04:32

'It went on from there. We decided to add the electronic drums, the first electronic drums at the time.'

1:04:321:04:38

Everyone thought it was keyboards. They were drums.

1:04:381:04:40

DRUM BEAT TRIGGERS ELECTRONIC ARPEGGIO

1:04:401:04:43

SECOND DRUM BEAT STOPS IT

1:04:461:04:48

Have it! It's the '70s, innit? The bigger, the better!

1:04:481:04:52

If there was something that was available

1:04:551:04:57

from a technology point of view that would enhance the sound of the band,

1:04:571:05:01

we wanted it yesterday.

1:05:011:05:03

HE RINGS BELL WITH STRING IN HIS MOUTH

1:05:031:05:06

MUSIC: "The Ancient (Giants Under The Sun)" by Yes

1:05:131:05:16

Progressive rock was now colonising the outer limits.

1:05:181:05:21

In 1973, Yes had set sail on Topographic Oceans,

1:05:211:05:26

a double album comprised of only four tracks,

1:05:261:05:28

each packed with unusual sounds, key changes and time signatures.

1:05:281:05:32

There was this constant quest. Could you hit this and it sounded good?

1:05:351:05:38

"Doing!"

1:05:381:05:39

We got Slinkies and put mics in them and threw them downstairs and recorded them

1:05:421:05:46

to hear what they were like. And you put a lot of reverb on them, it's great.

1:05:461:05:50

And it was! "Pchkowwhoossssh-bthwooooom"! Yeah!

1:05:501:05:54

It was that kind of insanity. It was a nice kind of insanity.

1:05:561:05:59

It was a musical insanity.

1:05:591:06:01

We were...totally self-indulgent.

1:06:151:06:17

But it was serious music. There was something more serious about Yes

1:06:221:06:26

than some other bands of that time.

1:06:261:06:28

We took ourselves a little serious!

1:06:281:06:29

And our quest was to make something we thought was kind of grand,

1:06:291:06:36

not grandiose, but had a kind of grandeur about it.

1:06:361:06:39

It had scale, but it had drama.

1:06:391:06:43

But this quest was even more arduous than the Beatles' Magical Mystery Tour.

1:06:441:06:49

Audiences were showing signs of fatigue.

1:06:491:06:53

Robert had stopped King Crimson,

1:06:591:07:00

Robert Fripp had stopped King Crimson around that time.

1:07:001:07:03

Very prescient. Very smart.

1:07:031:07:04

I mean, I'd only just settled down. Just got my sticks out. Just settling in.

1:07:061:07:10

But that's a bit like... That's life in King Crimson.

1:07:111:07:14

It broke up at least three times, in my certain knowledge.

1:07:141:07:19

Probably several other times while I was in it!

1:07:191:07:22

If Fripp sensed an artistic cul-de-sac ahead when he put the brakes on King Crimson in 1974,

1:07:251:07:30

others put their foot down

1:07:301:07:32

and drove headlong into fame, fortune and near-fatal solos.

1:07:321:07:38

These bands were... shockingly, to my mind...

1:07:401:07:44

going on a transition away from

1:07:441:07:47

the kind of honesty and real experimentalism we were involved in,

1:07:471:07:53

into an un-self-consciously showbizzy way of doing things.

1:07:531:08:00

In the Genesis camp, Peter Gabriel's taste for the theatrical

1:08:021:08:06

threatened to swamp the subtlety of the music.

1:08:061:08:09

But enthusiastic audiences and an attentive press

1:08:091:08:12

pushed the band closer to commercial success.

1:08:121:08:15

Americans, particularly, pushed past the rest of us

1:08:151:08:19

to say "Great show, Pete! Great show!

1:08:191:08:21

"You were great tonight!" And I just got fed up with it.

1:08:211:08:24

So I made my feelings known about that.

1:08:251:08:29

It did irritate us a bit that he got all the attention, but we kind of knew that in the back of our minds.

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We knew it gave us incredible publicity as well.

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So we weren't too sad about that side of it.

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I didn't have a problem. Maybe once during The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway.

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A couple of costumes went too far, you couldn't sing through them.

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But I always liked the visuals.

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It was all part of what we did,

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and nobody else was really doing it.

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# Welcome back, my friends, To the show that never ends

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# We're so glad you could attend, Come inside, come inside... #

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ELP were busy establishing the power of British prog,

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conquering the four corners of the globe with tours built on showmanship.

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Technical extravaganzas light years away from underground clubs and hippy ideal.

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# Rest assured, you'll get your money's worth... #

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You have to say that by '75, '76,

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it all got over-indulgent. It just all did.

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This is the Hilton, is it?

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Conrad, Conrad. If you're looking in, I've got one soft one, and one hard one.

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What use is that? What's all that about?

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I remember doing some filming with ELP.

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They had three 40-foot trucks.

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There was this moving ELP thing across...

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It just seemed to me a betrayal.

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How could these people, who were my heroes...

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how could Keith Emerson do that?

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There was no finesse, to my mind, or sophistication or sensitivity about what they were doing at all.

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It was hysterical.

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This whole stadium thing, with Yes coming out of big petals that opened,

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and stage design...there'd almost begun now...a tipping point

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where the presentation, the stage design and everything else

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was almost taking over from the music in terms of importance.

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They were all out-doing each other.

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"We think that progressive rock, the things you do,

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"is overblown, it's pretentious,

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"completely over-the-top and thoroughly pompous.

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"What do you say to that?"

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Yeah, you're about right, really!

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Then...

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some people came along who thought, "We can make this sexy,"

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and you've got Queen...

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# Mama mia, mama mia... #

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..who had a lot of prog elements but managed to get back to having tunes,

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and just devastating emotional climaxes

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instead of intellectual doodlings.

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MUSIC: "Bohemian Rhapsody" by Queen

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When Peter Gabriel left Genesis in 1975 to go solo,

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grammar school interloper Phil Collins

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became the front man for the Charterhouse boys.

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A new Genesis became even more successful, with Trick Of The Tail,

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an album that seemed to sniff an approaching storm in its return to simpler songs.

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# "Am I wrong to believe in the city of gold

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# "That lies in the deep distance?" he cried

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# And wept as they led him away to a cage

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# Beast that can talk read the sign... #

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Some of the things became very simplified in some people's...

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or shortened, or "commercialised" is the dirty word.

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They think that was my fault. I won't take the glory or blame for that.

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There are certain songs that people always put down, "That's a Phil song." Phh!

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After Peter left we were kind of conscious that do you carry on and do what you've always done,

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these long, half-hour pieces or concept albums?

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You think maybe you've done that, you know, and you move on a bit.

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MELLOW ROCK MUSIC PLAYS

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-What's this song called?

-It's not a song, Stubbs.

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It's the first movement of a rock symphony -

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Apotheosis Of The Necromancer.

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That's a dead cert for Top Of The Pops(!)

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Rick Wakeman may be your God, but let me tell you something - concept albums are out.

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There was a scene in The Rotters' Club where the school band

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morphs from being a progressive band to a punk band in mid-song.

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MELLOW ROCK MUSIC PLAYS

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Bollocks to this for a game of soldiers.

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HE CHANGES HIS DRUMMING STYLE

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That was meant to be a sort of comic caricature of what actually happened in '76, '77.

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# Anarchy in the UK

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# Is this the UDA? #

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Punk stumbled on a time tunnel back to pre-Sergeant Pepper days

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and returned armed with only three chords and angry as hell.

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# Or just

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# Another

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# Country... #

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It was a big explosion

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of resentment

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against the...

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..highbrows.

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What they were saying was,

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"This glam rock and progressive rock is not communicating to me...

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"..and I feel marginalised."

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I didn't think it was us they were talking about.

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OK, let's lose the guys that go... HE IMITATES A PRECIOUS MELODY

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Let's get rid of that!

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What I didn't like was the great hate that those people

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pretended to have for the establishment

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of rock bands at that particular point.

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Anybody that played, like, you know,

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something a bit more complex or a bit interesting, that was out the window.

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MUSIC: "Teenage Kicks" by The Undertones

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On one hand I liked it because it was trashing things,

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but on the other hand, I didn't because it was a return to infancy.

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There's this permanent tension in rock music between the three chords and the truth merchants -

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you know, four-four and three chords -

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and the other people, like me,

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who say, "What if we add a fourth chord and put it in five-four?"

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There's always people like me messing up what these people think is pop music.

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A lot of pretty good bands came out of punk, but they were excellent writers and musicians,

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but that wasn't what punk was about. Punk was all about NOT being musical.

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The British Isles was the only country that fell for it.

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They didn't manage to do it anywhere else.

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One of the things proper musicians objected to with punk was that they were always out of tune.

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If you listen to Schoenberg and Cecil Taylor,

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there's no such thing as out of tune. It's just another bunch of notes.

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If you're going to play the same three chords, instead of learning all kind of fancy ones,

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why not have them play the guitar out of tune? That'll give you something different.

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That was a very lovely, home-made solution to harmonic inventiveness.

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Just don't tune up. Don't sing in tune. How far out can you get?

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The notes between the notes, we're hitting them.

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SHE PLAYS BOOGIE-WOOGIE

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The next generation had arrived, determined to overthrow Daddy in the Oedipal battle for supremacy.

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Only this time, Daddy was a prog rocker.

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You initially grow up with the music that the generation before you, your parents, have chosen.

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And you don't want it. My mum and dad used to listen to Pearl and Teddy Johnson.

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# Darling, darling, sweet Elizabeth

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# Say you'll be mine - hey! Always be mine - hey! #

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I don't want to listen to Pearl and Teddy Johnson so along comes The Who and bands like that. Yeah!

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Absolutely, that's what I want!

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And it belongs to you. I mean, prog rock, to some extent, killed the pop bands.

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The pop bands killed the crooner. Punk killed prog rock.

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ABSTRACT ROCK MUSIC PLAYS

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'70s Britain bore no resemblance to the imagined, mystical worlds of prog rock and Roger Dean.

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It was plagued by shortages, strikes and post-'60s disillusionment.

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In 1979, an Iron Lady would be crowned Queen in the Court of the Crimson King.

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Lyrically, progressive music in the '70s was very divorced from social reality. Just not interested in it.

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The lyrics are always a problem in this kind of music

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because it is about music, doing interesting things with instruments

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and making interesting musical shapes and landscapes,

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but if you're gonna have a singer, what's he going to sing about?

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Often the solution was to go down the talking Roger Dean route,

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to sing about fantasy worlds and so on,

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and there's a kind of embarrassment about that now which I certainly share.

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Genesis missed the British punk revolution.

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Like many progressive bands, they were too busy being successful abroad.

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On their return, they not only weathered the punk front, now sitting firmly over the country,

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but, perversely, enjoyed an Indian summer.

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We were unaware of punk because we were touring so much, not really aware of anything else going on.

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All we knew really was that groups like Yes had disappeared a bit,

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so in a sense we were the last ones left standing

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so we picked up everybody else's audience.

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We always had that side to us which was based more on the songwriting than on the playing,

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and that carried us through.

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MUSIC: "Follow You Follow Me" by Genesis

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And we started having hit singles.

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Follow You Follow Me opened a door for us. It was a reasonable hit. It wasn't massive.

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But after that, we were able to put out singles and they'd always get played for many years.

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A lot of them did well so suddenly that meant the potential audience became much bigger.

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Most bands weren't so lucky.

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Procol Harum's 10th album, Something Magic,

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an ambitious concept in which their instruments played characters

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in a story that was narrated, not even sung, became their swansong.

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We'd finished it. I don't know how we managed to record this thing.

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And then we turn around and there it is, of course, punks and...

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The way we left was just to sort of pack up on our last night of a tour and we said, "That's it, then."

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And we all went our separate ways.

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In the 1980s, original King Crimson lyricist Pete Sinfield uncovered a secret path into pop music

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as a writer of chart-topping hits.

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MUSIC: "The Land Of Make Believe" by Bucks Fizz

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Try and write something a lot of people will like quickly,

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yet still get something of you in it.

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"Something nasty in your garden, waiting till it'll steal your heart,"

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which for me, is like a King Crimson line.

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I've just taken it into a different setting.

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MUSIC: "The Land Of Make Believe" by Bucks Fizz

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King Crimson itself, staged several comebacks and its 1974 album, Red,

1:21:341:21:40

would, in time, influence grunge guru, Kurt Cobain.

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Somewhere in 1987,

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I probably gave up noisy rock.

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I mean, there was the odd reunion tour.

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But in my mind, I was redefined as a jazz musician,

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which I probably should have been in the first place.

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Yes, teamed up with hip '80s producer, Trevor Horn,

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who helped tune their songs to the ears of a very different decade.

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MUSIC: "Owner Of A Lonely Heart" by Yes

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But the expedition to the far reaches of pop music,

1:22:521:22:55

had left camp in the late '60s, was by now lost, forgotten,

1:22:551:23:00

or only spoken of in hushed tones.

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Prog had become a really dirty word, you know.

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It's the sort of thing that you didn't mention in public.

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It's almost the only kind of music where people write off everything

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that's in the genre,

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without embarrassment, actually, and just say, you know, "It's all shit."

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People would go to a record store and say, "I'd like some, er...

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"couple of Country and Western, a bit of New Age,

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"and bit of Modern Romantic, please, as well.

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"A couple of punk albums, I'll have that, thank you very much,

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"a bit of classical, and, um...

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"..(have you got any prog rock?)"

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There were people out there that might not have liked Yes,

1:23:481:23:51

but liked a bit of Genesis,

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might not have liked the Floyd, but liked Jethro Tull.

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"Er, yes, Sir, hold on. I'll do it under the counter."

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They do it under the counter in a brown paper bag and round the side.

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It was like...it was like the porn of the music industry.

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I went out and bought the first Sex Pistols album,

1:24:071:24:11

and didn't mind telling people I had, and that I listened to it.

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Whereas Jonny Rotten, at the time, wouldn't admit to listening to Jethro Tull.

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But, many, many years later, admitted that one of his, sort of,

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seminal influences was the Aqualung album.

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I met Rat Scabies in an airport, right about to get on a plane,

1:24:261:24:33

and he came up to me...

1:24:331:24:36

..and he said, "Just want you to know, I'm a big fan of yours."

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But, you know, he just wanted to make sure nobody was looking.

1:24:421:24:46

We were living the dream, you know, but it would be stupid

1:24:461:24:50

for people to keep thinking that life was easy because of that.

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It's not easy.

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It's a lot of hard work and these lines on my face are evidence!

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The lost chord!

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You're always looking for that thing you haven't heard yet.

1:25:041:25:08

Not everyone persevered in The Land Of Make Believe.

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There had been early casualties.

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The reason I stopped doing it rather suddenly...

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..was...simply because of my dependent psychology.

1:25:251:25:30

I needed praise and I wasn't getting it.

1:25:311:25:34

It was a bit like a child that dies aged three of malnutrition.

1:25:371:25:44

You know, it gets born, there's all sorts of hope and...

1:25:441:25:51

good expectations. It learns to walk, it learns to run, it learns to talk,

1:25:511:25:56

and suddenly it gives up, because it didn't get enough nourishment.

1:25:561:26:01

It was like that.

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For me.

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At its purest, progressive rock wasn't about money, celebrity,

1:26:121:26:17

record contracts or the audience.

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It wasn't even a type of music.

1:26:201:26:23

It was a belief. A value system of the early '70s.

1:26:231:26:25

One that now seems like old time religion.

1:26:251:26:29

Its creators, often precocious, sometimes indulged,

1:26:311:26:34

occasionally deluded, but always uncompromising, baptised the decade

1:26:341:26:39

with a soundtrack of stark virtuosity, weird time signatures...

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strange poetry and surprising beauty.

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The musical experiment, now labelled prog rock,

1:26:471:26:51

and stored under the counter, or placed almost out of reach,

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on the top shelf.

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It grew out of rock music, and that's why it was written about

1:26:591:27:02

in the rock press. But it's kind of a shame it ever became regarded

1:27:021:27:05

as part of rock and roll, because...

1:27:051:27:07

because it's not. I think the ethos is completely different,

1:27:071:27:10

and if you judge it by the standards of rock and roll then it fails.

1:27:101:27:14

It's actually a bunch of very talented musicians,

1:27:141:27:18

who were kind of cursed with very musically intelligent brains,

1:27:181:27:23

who got bored very quickly with playing three chords all the time,

1:27:231:27:27

and wanted to do stuff which was more complex and more challenging.

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-I say, John?

-Yes?

-Tense up, control room. We're ready to do one.

-Right.

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There's an expression which I like a lot, which is, success is buried in the garden of failure.

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So, if you're willing to go to that garden, and dig and dig and dig,

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and try and try and try,

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eventually you'll succeed with some ideas and some success.

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So if you possibly, tense up a little and we'll try and wax a hot one.

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Ah, that's better. Thank you. Um, sorry. What were you saying?

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# Speeding through the universe

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# Thinking is the best way to travel. #

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