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Heavy metal is all about literally the awesome power of electricity through guitar. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:15 | |
What's that? | 0:00:17 | 0:00:18 | |
That's what you're playing, metal. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:20 | |
Is it? | 0:00:20 | 0:00:21 | |
Weighty. | 0:00:21 | 0:00:23 | |
Something that's thick, dense, intense. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:26 | |
Something with gravitas. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:29 | |
Heavy is slowing it down, making it deeper, darker, moodier. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:34 | |
Glowering. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:35 | |
Machine-like, buzzing. Snarling power. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:40 | |
I understand what it means. Well, I think I understand what it means. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:46 | |
Huge great power chords, wiping you off your feet. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:51 | |
Dark connotations with violence. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:55 | |
Metal lives in a world of its own creation. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:59 | |
It's its own World of Warcraft. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:01 | |
(IN A DEEP VOICE) Heavy. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:02 | |
A little bit too much voice, and that maybe is the definition, it's too much. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:06 | |
It's more that industrial sound, more... | 0:01:07 | 0:01:10 | |
I don't know, heavy, I suppose. Heavy metal. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:14 | |
Once upon a time, there was no heavy metal music. Anywhere. | 0:01:30 | 0:01:34 | |
There was just the factory landscape of the Midlands and the industrialised North, | 0:01:34 | 0:01:39 | |
where the sounds and smells of metal manufacture hung heavily in the air. | 0:01:39 | 0:01:44 | |
I've always felt it's really cool that metal is synonymous with the Midlands. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:54 | |
I've heard people say it's in the water, things like that. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:57 | |
And it's this steel industry thing that used to be, | 0:01:57 | 0:02:02 | |
with drop forges and all that. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:04 | |
I can remember as a kid at RC Thomas School in Bloxwich, | 0:02:04 | 0:02:09 | |
we'd be doing English, and we'd be next to a metal foundry, | 0:02:09 | 0:02:12 | |
and the steam hammers would be banging up and down. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:16 | |
The whole desk would be shaking. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:18 | |
You could always hear the steam hammers. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:21 | |
There was always a steel mill | 0:02:21 | 0:02:24 | |
within audible distance. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:27 | |
Walking home, you'd get all the, | 0:02:31 | 0:02:33 | |
they can't do it now, but in those | 0:02:33 | 0:02:35 | |
days the air was full of all these bits of metal grit, | 0:02:35 | 0:02:38 | |
you could taste it and you could breathe it in. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:41 | |
It's so simple, really. If you were born in Mecca, for example, | 0:02:45 | 0:02:48 | |
it's most unlikely you are going to grow up to be a Catholic. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:51 | |
Everything you do is shaped by your environment. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:55 | |
I think by the time you get to eight years old, when your mind starts becoming very fertile, and your | 0:02:55 | 0:03:00 | |
imagination is shaped by the house you live in, the street you live in. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:05 | |
If you had to get up at seven in the morning and walk into British Steel on a frosty morning, | 0:03:05 | 0:03:10 | |
the other thing that it does, it gives you determination to get out of there. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:14 | |
Maybe it was a kind of escape. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:22 | |
You can't nip down to the beach with your acoustic guitar, can you? | 0:03:22 | 0:03:27 | |
You are stuck in your bedroom | 0:03:27 | 0:03:29 | |
with a fuzzy guitar. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:31 | |
It comes out of the North, in swathes. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:36 | |
You look at those pictures of people with | 0:03:37 | 0:03:40 | |
a cigarette in the corner of their mouth, a dark look in their eye. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:44 | |
It's inner city music, isn't it? | 0:03:44 | 0:03:47 | |
Some of us say from the Midlands, we actually breathed in the metal before | 0:03:47 | 0:03:52 | |
it came to be a real thing and a real experience. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
And I'm sure that's true, that the connection, because of | 0:03:55 | 0:04:01 | |
what metal represents to a lot of people, it's this very tough, hard, working class | 0:04:01 | 0:04:07 | |
honest people from the Midlands, particularly, | 0:04:07 | 0:04:11 | |
a part of the psychology, if you will, | 0:04:11 | 0:04:14 | |
the roots of the metal experience. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:17 | |
This now vanished industrial world incubated what would eventually become heavy metal music. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:23 | |
But when were the signs of its coming first heard among the pounding jack hammers? | 0:04:23 | 0:04:28 | |
Let's board a bus in the 1960s. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:32 | |
No-one actually can come up with a definitive answer as to when metal really began. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:38 | |
The earliest record they might well be able to identify with is the 1964 | 0:04:38 | 0:04:42 | |
single from the Kinks called You Really Got Me. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:44 | |
# Girl, you really got me going | 0:04:48 | 0:04:51 | |
# You got me so I don't know what I'm doing. # | 0:04:51 | 0:04:54 | |
Dave Davies played, da na na na na. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:57 | |
It's like, OK, you know, raucous guitar. It's here. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:02 | |
# Yeah, you really got me now | 0:05:02 | 0:05:05 | |
# You got me so I don't know what I'm doing. # | 0:05:05 | 0:05:07 | |
I got a razor blade, | 0:05:07 | 0:05:09 | |
and I slashed the cone of the speaker up. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:12 | |
It came out really raunchy and buzzing. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:18 | |
# You really got me. # | 0:05:18 | 0:05:19 | |
That might well be the moment that metal was born. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:22 | |
The bass behind all great rock music is cool riffs, really. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:30 | |
When it starts, that's where it starts. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:33 | |
You haven't got anything at all. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:35 | |
A riff makes everything else happen, I think. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:39 | |
It was a great era for people inventing themselves | 0:05:39 | 0:05:44 | |
and their own music, because suddenly there were less rules. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:48 | |
Songs about my area, my street, my culture, my mates, my football club, | 0:05:50 | 0:05:56 | |
my beliefs. And this is teenage power. | 0:05:56 | 0:06:00 | |
There were bands in Birmingham, bands in Manchester, bands in Newcastle. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:03 | |
There was a tremendous richness, and there was a lot to feed off. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:08 | |
Then you had a period where growing musicians outgrew pop bands. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:14 | |
You've just got to look at the greatest pop group that turned | 0:06:14 | 0:06:18 | |
so many musicians into rock musicians. The Yardbirds. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:22 | |
Eric Clapton, Jimmy Page, Jeff Beck. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:26 | |
I mean, this is just one band. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:34 | |
One band, but part of a movement. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:37 | |
The British blues boom, youthful, aggressive and irreverent. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:41 | |
We found our own way of singing it and our own way of playing it. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:45 | |
And because we were young when we learnt it, we took the aggressive side of it and pushed it, I think. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:53 | |
I mean, when my first band did Hoochie Coochie Man, | 0:06:53 | 0:06:57 | |
we played it loud and hard. | 0:06:57 | 0:06:58 | |
Blues, you can only play 12 bars for so long, you know. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:03 | |
Yeah, well, even now it's boring really, certainly English blues is. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:09 | |
I suppose it was a post beatnik thing as well, | 0:07:09 | 0:07:11 | |
that was more applicable to us, than people who were a little, | 0:07:11 | 0:07:14 | |
half a generation before us, expressing yourself. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:17 | |
-That's was what was coming, wasn't it? -Yeah, yeah. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
We were waiting for that first little box on the floor with a button on it, to go wargh! | 0:07:20 | 0:07:26 | |
Jimi Hendrix arrived in Britain from Seattle, possibly on the way to Planet Metal. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:36 | |
Jimi Hendrix is one of ours. It doesn't matter who tries to | 0:07:39 | 0:07:42 | |
claim him as being Hendrix the guitar god, blah de blah de blah. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:46 | |
He belongs to rock and metal. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:48 | |
That's where he is, that's where he belongs, he is one of us, if you want. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:53 | |
Everybody looked up to Hendrix, and Hendrix might have pioneered the distortion and feedback and wa-wa. | 0:07:53 | 0:08:01 | |
And several things people probably took from Hendrix. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:06 | |
But he was sort of more blues, and he didn't get into that hard rock, | 0:08:06 | 0:08:13 | |
like repetitive riffs, that maybe Deep Purple and Sabbath started doing. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:20 | |
It was at that point that I realised | 0:08:27 | 0:08:29 | |
I'd like to do that, you know, | 0:08:29 | 0:08:32 | |
as opposed to work for British Steel, which I did at the time. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:35 | |
A band that I think perhaps | 0:08:35 | 0:08:39 | |
had quite a bit to do with what became hard rock | 0:08:39 | 0:08:43 | |
which became heavy metal, and I'd like to put forward Cream. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:45 | |
By the time they split up in 1968, Cream had transformed American blues | 0:08:59 | 0:09:04 | |
into British psychedelic rock with heavy riffs, pounding drums, screaming vocals and wailing guitar. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:11 | |
Almost every essential component of a future metal performance. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:15 | |
Cream came along. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:18 | |
People like Fleetwood Mac and a whole bunch of offshoots from blues players that were progressing. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:24 | |
And, that word is so important, because they progressed in many ways, | 0:09:24 | 0:09:29 | |
and they had each got their own individual styles. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:32 | |
# Look out, helter-skelter! | 0:09:32 | 0:09:37 | |
# She's coming down fast | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
# Yes, she is! # | 0:09:40 | 0:09:43 | |
Some individual styles became dark and disturbing, as the hippie dream | 0:09:43 | 0:09:47 | |
was shattered by drug deaths, Altamont, and the Manson murders. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:51 | |
Things were getting heavy. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:54 | |
The sinister theatricality of Arthur Brown | 0:09:54 | 0:09:57 | |
inspired future metal performers, as did his extreme vocal range. | 0:09:57 | 0:10:01 | |
He came to our school and did a show, and it was incredible. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:12 | |
He'd got this Wagnerian tenor range | 0:10:12 | 0:10:14 | |
with things bolted on at each end that Wagner never really thought of. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:18 | |
The light show and everything else. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:20 | |
Although we came from that time of the hippies, | 0:10:20 | 0:10:24 | |
we were not actually like the blissed out ones. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:33 | |
I had a lot of violent energy. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:37 | |
# Take it to burn. # | 0:10:39 | 0:10:41 | |
It was quite nightmarish in some aspects. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:43 | |
I had to leave one concert on the floor of a taxi covered by a carpet because the Hell's Angels | 0:10:43 | 0:10:50 | |
were going to get me for saying I was the god of hellfire. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:53 | |
"You think you're tough? Hey." | 0:10:53 | 0:10:56 | |
Beat writer William Burroughs had introduced the phrase "heavy metal" | 0:11:08 | 0:11:12 | |
to the sub culture in his sci-fi Nova trilogy, published in the early '60s. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:17 | |
# Get your motor runnin' | 0:11:17 | 0:11:19 | |
-# Head out on the highway. # -'Heavy metal gimmick.' | 0:11:19 | 0:11:23 | |
-# Lookin' for adventure. # -'Heavy metal gimmick.' | 0:11:23 | 0:11:26 | |
# In whatever comes our way | 0:11:26 | 0:11:29 | |
# Yeah, darling Gonna make it happen. # | 0:11:30 | 0:11:33 | |
It was first heard as a lyric in 1968, courtesy of the American | 0:11:33 | 0:11:37 | |
hard rock band Steppenwolf in their anthemic tribute to the motorbike. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:42 | |
# I like smoke and lightnin' | 0:11:43 | 0:11:45 | |
# Heavy metal thunder | 0:11:46 | 0:11:49 | |
# Heavy metal thunder | 0:11:49 | 0:11:52 | |
# Heavy metal thunder | 0:11:53 | 0:11:55 | |
# Racin' with the wind... # | 0:11:56 | 0:11:58 | |
Heaviness, of course, wasn't exclusively British. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:05 | |
Heaviest of all was Blue Cheer, then perhaps the loudest, grungiest band in the world. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:13 | |
# Sometimes I wonder what I'm just gonna do | 0:12:18 | 0:12:21 | |
# No, there ain't no cure for the summertime blues. # | 0:12:21 | 0:12:25 | |
Fuzzed out, really powerful guitars, they really didn't lay into a comfortable hippie area. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:32 | |
# Well if you want to use the car to go ridin' next Sunday... # | 0:12:37 | 0:12:41 | |
If you think about that era, 1967, psychedelia, flower power, | 0:12:41 | 0:12:45 | |
everything like that, and the Blue Cheer guys came out with something really heavy, it hit you so hard. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:52 | |
# Sometimes I wonder What I'm gonna do | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
# No, there ain't no cure For the summertime blues. # | 0:12:55 | 0:12:58 | |
There was heavy Stateside, yes. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:02 | |
But it was quite, it was a light heavy, if I can put it that way. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:07 | |
I mean, Vanilla Fudge, brilliant, | 0:13:07 | 0:13:10 | |
astonishing musicianship and inventiveness. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:15 | |
But it didn't hold the heaviness. It would float off. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:20 | |
# Set me free, why don't you, babe? | 0:13:20 | 0:13:24 | |
# Get out my life Why don't you, babe? | 0:13:25 | 0:13:30 | |
# You really don't want me | 0:13:31 | 0:13:35 | |
# You just keep me hanging on. # | 0:13:35 | 0:13:41 | |
I think Vanilla Fudge were hugely influential on rock music. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:49 | |
It was the first time we thought of hard rock perhaps as opposed to rock and roll. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:56 | |
In Britain, the Edgar Broughton Band chose not to fudge it. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:16 | |
This underground trio weren't heavy metal. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
But they were heavy. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:22 | |
Up until then, you'd really either got to be a blues band or... | 0:14:22 | 0:14:25 | |
-A pop band. -Or a pop band or a beat band. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
With the psychedelic progressive era happening, you could sort of do your | 0:14:28 | 0:14:33 | |
own thing, you didn't have to be exactly labelled quite the same. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:36 | |
Hi, kid. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:39 | |
Hello, sir. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:41 | |
# What you wanna do, boy? # | 0:14:41 | 0:14:45 | |
In some ways, we were almost like hell bent on not being progressive in some respects. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:52 | |
# Do you want to go to war, boy? # | 0:14:52 | 0:14:59 | |
Oh, yes, please, sir. Yes, please, sir. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:04 | |
But in terms of the metal, if you go to the first album, and songs like | 0:15:06 | 0:15:10 | |
Psychopath on the second album, | 0:15:10 | 0:15:12 | |
there was something sort of pre-industrial music about that. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:17 | |
Very riffy, very, very hard, basic three-piece stuff. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:22 | |
INDISTINCT LYRIC | 0:15:24 | 0:15:27 | |
# Love in the rain | 0:15:31 | 0:15:33 | |
# Love in the rain... # | 0:15:35 | 0:15:37 | |
There weren't many bands that could go on after us. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:44 | |
-No, really. -Because? | 0:15:44 | 0:15:47 | |
Well, because they didn't want to. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:48 | |
By the time we'd finished and our audience had finished with us... | 0:15:48 | 0:15:54 | |
Sometimes, people were a bit drained. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:56 | |
It might not have had the sort of sheet metal of metal, | 0:16:08 | 0:16:11 | |
but it definitely had the kind of balls of it, and the basic | 0:16:11 | 0:16:15 | |
stance, I suppose, dealing again with quite dark things. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:19 | |
Then Zeppelin popped up on the scene, and that was it. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:23 | |
MUSIC: Dazed And Confused by Led Zeppelin | 0:16:23 | 0:16:25 | |
They were the catalyst. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:30 | |
Because it's really guitar-based, really riffy, really heavy at times. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:48 | |
Without them having to resort to putting on leather jackets and things. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:52 | |
There was always a classiness about Zeppelin, where they'd come up with | 0:16:52 | 0:16:56 | |
these great riffs, and the four people would just nail that track. | 0:16:56 | 0:17:01 | |
# Run around, sweet baby.... # | 0:17:04 | 0:17:08 | |
It was just frenzied, tight. So tight. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:10 | |
Page's sound wasn't that big. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:16 | |
A scratchy sound, a lot of it, it wasn't really thick and huge. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:21 | |
But it was all punched out, you know. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:25 | |
And this drummer was featured. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:33 | |
And this frenetic vocal line on top. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:38 | |
# I've been dazed and confused so long it's not true. # | 0:17:39 | 0:17:44 | |
So that there was really the motivation, I think, | 0:17:44 | 0:17:47 | |
for the sound to develop. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:49 | |
It all comes in the basic form | 0:17:49 | 0:17:51 | |
from the exchange of American blues into blues rock, then into electric | 0:17:51 | 0:17:57 | |
psychedelic rock, progressive rock, and then the early strains of metal. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:02 | |
Those strains eventually came in 1969 from Earth, | 0:18:05 | 0:18:09 | |
a struggling blues rock-type band | 0:18:09 | 0:18:11 | |
comprising a bunch of blokes who lived around the corner to each other in Birmingham. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:15 | |
They were about to change their name and their music, and in doing so, let the beast out of the box. | 0:18:15 | 0:18:22 | |
You'd have never have thought this line-up would have got together. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:29 | |
I didn't even know... Geezer was a guitar player. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:32 | |
He'd never played bass in his life. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:34 | |
Ozzy was working in the slaughterhouse. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:42 | |
And thieving. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:48 | |
He did a few months in prison. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:50 | |
Everybody was middle class that made it in music, except for us. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:58 | |
We were ultra working class. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:01 | |
We were very rough and tough when we performed. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:05 | |
And Ozzy and Tony in particular, they didn't stand any bullshit. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:09 | |
And if they wanted people to get involved, they were very much encouraged to get involved. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:15 | |
And there were one or two fights with the audience. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:20 | |
Because we wanted everybody to be a part of this music. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:25 | |
Do you believe in ghosts? | 0:19:30 | 0:19:32 | |
The name came from the Boris Karloff movie, Black Sabbath. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:35 | |
Starring the incomparable Boris Karloff. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:42 | |
Terry had brought that to us. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:45 | |
And we all thought it was great because it sounded scary, you know. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:50 | |
Yeah, my brother went see it when he was about 16. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:57 | |
I was too young to go and see it, so he was always telling me about this film, Black Sabbath. | 0:19:57 | 0:20:01 | |
I always loved that name, Black Sabbath. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:07 | |
And it stuck with me. I always said, if I was in a band, that's what I would call the band, Black Sabbath. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:15 | |
Well, Geezer and myself used to go to the cinema a lot and go and see a lot of horror films. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:24 | |
We used to like that in them days. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:26 | |
Old Boris Karloff ones, | 0:20:26 | 0:20:29 | |
Christopher Lee and all that. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:30 | |
We used to like that, we used to go to the midnight viewing. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:34 | |
'An adventure into black magic that goes beyond the boundaries of the supernatural.' | 0:20:34 | 0:20:40 | |
Black Sabbath now began writing original material | 0:20:41 | 0:20:44 | |
that reflected their fascination with, and fear of, the dark side. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:51 | |
I am hungry. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:53 | |
I played this riff, and, oh, I really like this. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:57 | |
It gave you a sort of a vibe. | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
Oh, I really like what we're doing here. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:04 | |
So then it had to be lyrics that went with the image of that riff. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:11 | |
One night, I woke up and there was this black shape just staring at me at the bottom of the bed. | 0:21:11 | 0:21:17 | |
And I was frightened, it frightened the bloody life out of me. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:22 | |
I leapt out of bed and went and hid in the bathroom until I felt OK, then I came back to bed. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:29 | |
The next day I told Ozzy about it | 0:21:29 | 0:21:32 | |
and I think that inspired him, when he came out with the lyrics, | 0:21:32 | 0:21:36 | |
"What is this that stands before me, a big black shape," | 0:21:36 | 0:21:38 | |
and all that kind of thing. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:40 | |
'This is Black Sabbath.' | 0:21:41 | 0:21:45 | |
# What is this that stands before me? # | 0:21:45 | 0:21:53 | |
When Oz sang, "What is this that stands before me?" | 0:21:54 | 0:21:58 | |
I was completely there. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:00 | |
# Figure in black which points at me. # | 0:22:02 | 0:22:09 | |
'I was completely there.' | 0:22:11 | 0:22:13 | |
And, if we'd have stopped and never written another song again, | 0:22:13 | 0:22:19 | |
that would have been enough. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:21 | |
# No, please, God, help me! # | 0:22:21 | 0:22:23 | |
We were very innocent, very innocent. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:57 | |
We weren't smart, we weren't contrived. | 0:22:57 | 0:22:59 | |
It just came out in a completely natural way at about 9.00am in the morning | 0:23:01 | 0:23:06 | |
at the Aston community centre, right in the centre of Aston, Birmingham. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:11 | |
Everybody was, in the world, was all on about all the good things that were happening. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:16 | |
It was all flower power, everything was all jolly. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:19 | |
And on the other side of it, nobody was talking about the things that had happened, | 0:23:19 | 0:23:24 | |
people getting blown up, | 0:23:24 | 0:23:26 | |
and just the other side. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:28 | |
We'd got the good and evil, and nobody was talking about the evil. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:32 | |
So it just seemed an ideal thing to talk about, really. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:38 | |
Peace and love was not necessarily our reality. | 0:23:38 | 0:23:42 | |
You know, we came from Aston, which is a pretty rough and tough area in Birmingham. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:53 | |
And there wasn't a whole lot of flowers being handed out in Aston. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:59 | |
There were a few boots, and a kick in the head every once in a while. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:04 | |
And a few razor cuts. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:06 | |
It was a tough town. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:08 | |
We didn't actually embrace the possibility of | 0:24:08 | 0:24:13 | |
going to San Francisco with flowers in our hair for very long. | 0:24:13 | 0:24:16 | |
It was a couple of months in '67, really. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:19 | |
And then, by the time the British winter started to bite, which is normally somewhere in October, | 0:24:19 | 0:24:27 | |
I personally binned my bells and beads, | 0:24:27 | 0:24:31 | |
the kaftan wasn't keeping me too warm. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:33 | |
We were just reflecting on what our reality really did feel like. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:42 | |
It felt like... HEAVY ROCK CHORD | 0:24:42 | 0:24:43 | |
it felt like that. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:45 | |
It felt like, you know. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:47 | |
We suddenly went from, are you going to watchchamacallit, sticking flowers in your hair, | 0:24:51 | 0:24:56 | |
to this really, "I hate you, I've had enough of this, that and the other." | 0:24:56 | 0:25:02 | |
That was just a great catalyst, because suddenly people were like, "That's exactly how I feel. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:07 | |
"I ain't got flowers in my bloody hair, I've got weeds around my feet. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:13 | |
"That's not my life, that's not what I'm going through. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:17 | |
"I've got this life, this existence that is really pissing me off. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:20 | |
"And now I've got some music that's talking about that." | 0:25:20 | 0:25:24 | |
MUSIC: Gypsy by Uriah Heep | 0:25:24 | 0:25:25 | |
Down south, the heavy organ and guitar driven sound of Uriah Heep | 0:25:30 | 0:25:34 | |
may have been a late '60s mix of progressive rock, blues rock and folk, | 0:25:34 | 0:25:38 | |
but it was also, at its own admittance, very heavy. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:42 | |
The very heavy side of what we did was like Gypsy, | 0:25:47 | 0:25:50 | |
which you can probably say is nowadays, | 0:25:50 | 0:25:53 | |
with the journalistic pigeonholes there are, heavy metal. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:55 | |
But you can never call Uriah Heep totally heavy metal, because there | 0:25:55 | 0:25:59 | |
were other things that we do, like we do a beautiful acoustic | 0:25:59 | 0:26:02 | |
off that album, an acoustic number called Come Away Melinda, which is vocals and acoustic. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:07 | |
So, we always as a band wanted to do that, | 0:26:07 | 0:26:10 | |
we wanted to exploit all of that so we could never fall under one banner. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:14 | |
But, a part of us are heavy metal. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:18 | |
And we actually did, we used to rehearse in a place called Hanwell Community Centre in Acton. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:25 | |
And in one room was Uriah Heep, and in the next room was Deep Purple, | 0:26:25 | 0:26:28 | |
so that was a hell of a racket going on in there. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:31 | |
An infant British heavy metal took to the road to spread the gospel | 0:26:33 | 0:26:37 | |
in the alternative rock way, on A roads, B roads | 0:26:37 | 0:26:41 | |
and early stretches of precious motorway. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:44 | |
We were probably classed as a row, to be honest. | 0:26:44 | 0:26:47 | |
A loud row. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:50 | |
Everywhere you went, it was sort of soul clubs, | 0:26:54 | 0:26:57 | |
and I was absolutely sick of going to places and listening to soul music. | 0:26:57 | 0:27:01 | |
Because we all liked Hendrix and Cream and that kind of band, | 0:27:01 | 0:27:06 | |
when we start we started writing, we obviously went with that kind of thing. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:11 | |
I remember playing in pubs and we've struck the first chord up | 0:27:14 | 0:27:17 | |
and been so loud that the barman's been catching the glasses. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:20 | |
They jumped out of the bar and paid us and said, "But don't play any more." | 0:27:20 | 0:27:24 | |
You did all the clubs, all the circuit, all the universities. | 0:27:27 | 0:27:30 | |
Then you started building up a great following. | 0:27:30 | 0:27:33 | |
That was the essence of it, really, getting the following and the live work. | 0:27:33 | 0:27:38 | |
In the early days of metal, it was about getting in the van, driving up to Inverness, doing a show, | 0:27:38 | 0:27:44 | |
and then getting back in the van, coming down to Birmingham, then driving down to Dover, you know. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:49 | |
And you took the message of the music around the country to show it off. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:55 | |
In person, in performance, in concert. | 0:27:57 | 0:28:00 | |
Touring now is almost an industrial process. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:04 | |
It was on a much more naive and more charming scale back then. | 0:28:05 | 0:28:09 | |
And I never got to sample it as a kid because I never saw any rock bands. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:13 | |
It was a bit like the Marquis de Sade who had all his sexual experiences | 0:28:14 | 0:28:20 | |
locked in a jail cell writing his fantasies on bits of bog paper. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:23 | |
I was the same with music. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:25 | |
So I had all my musical fantasies... | 0:28:25 | 0:28:28 | |
..locked in its boarding school equivalent. | 0:28:29 | 0:28:33 | |
I could look at the gatefold album sleeves and only dream. | 0:28:33 | 0:28:37 | |
MUSIC: Hush by Deep Purple | 0:28:39 | 0:28:41 | |
Formed in 1967 by guitarist Ritchie Blackmore and keyboard player Jon Lord, | 0:28:42 | 0:28:48 | |
Deep Purple had made three albums by 1969 and toured with Cream. | 0:28:48 | 0:28:52 | |
But they were on the road to heavy metal, in search of an original sound. | 0:28:52 | 0:28:56 | |
# Hush, hush, I thought I heard her calling my name... # | 0:28:57 | 0:29:02 | |
People who put the money up that enabled Ritchie Blackmore | 0:29:02 | 0:29:05 | |
and myself to start Deep Purple, I think they wanted a pop band. | 0:29:05 | 0:29:11 | |
And then they got this kind of two-faced thing that they got with Purple at first, | 0:29:11 | 0:29:17 | |
because the band didn't know what it was. We had a hit single with a cover of Hush. | 0:29:17 | 0:29:22 | |
And yet we were doing these weird psychedelic prog rock | 0:29:22 | 0:29:26 | |
introductions to other people's songs. | 0:29:26 | 0:29:29 | |
With the arrival of bassist Roger Glover and vocalist Ian Gillan, | 0:29:31 | 0:29:36 | |
the Hairy Scream, the band released a fourth album in 1970. | 0:29:36 | 0:29:40 | |
Deep Purple In Rock became a heavy milestone. | 0:29:40 | 0:29:45 | |
Hendrix was an obvious influence on Ritchie. | 0:29:45 | 0:29:48 | |
Vanilla Fudge were an obvious influence on the band as a whole. | 0:29:48 | 0:29:52 | |
But what made us go where we went with Deep Purple In Rock, which was our calling card, | 0:29:52 | 0:29:59 | |
our statement, this was us saying, | 0:29:59 | 0:30:01 | |
"This is where we have arrived at and this is what we want to be." | 0:30:01 | 0:30:04 | |
That came from inside. That came from within the band. | 0:30:04 | 0:30:08 | |
That's where we were headed, | 0:30:08 | 0:30:10 | |
from the moment that Ritchie and I sat down at 14 Gunter Grove in December 1967 | 0:30:10 | 0:30:16 | |
and discussed what we were doing, that's where we were headed, was Deep Purple In Rock. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:20 | |
Blackmore had this vision about where he wanted his guitar to go, | 0:30:31 | 0:30:35 | |
so I just went, "Well, if his guitar is going to go there then my organ has to go there. | 0:30:35 | 0:30:39 | |
"The Hammond has to toughen up." | 0:30:39 | 0:30:41 | |
# Oh, I wanna hear you sing... # | 0:30:42 | 0:30:45 | |
We had Gillan, who had discovered this ability, as he now says, it was an aberration, he just | 0:30:48 | 0:30:54 | |
discovered it one day, he could scream on a top A in full voice. | 0:30:54 | 0:30:58 | |
SCREAMING | 0:31:00 | 0:31:02 | |
SCREAMING | 0:31:04 | 0:31:05 | |
There's no word for it in music. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:21 | |
There's a word for other kinds of singing, you're a tenor, | 0:31:21 | 0:31:24 | |
you're a baritone, you're a bass, | 0:31:24 | 0:31:25 | |
you're a contralto, you're a soprano. | 0:31:25 | 0:31:27 | |
But what I do is called screaming. | 0:31:29 | 0:31:32 | |
By the end of the '60s, there was plenty to scream about. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:41 | |
The Vietnam war was proof that the world was not a safe or happy place. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:45 | |
When Black Sabbath first toured the States in 1971, they | 0:31:47 | 0:31:51 | |
played to a nation with its own very real experiences of the dark side. | 0:31:51 | 0:31:55 | |
When we came over here, the Vietnam war was like, | 0:31:58 | 0:32:02 | |
it was in chaos over here. | 0:32:02 | 0:32:04 | |
You'd play a gig and there would literally be a line of | 0:32:04 | 0:32:07 | |
police with tear gas and truncheons, like, as soon as anybody came towards the stage they'd be pummelling them. | 0:32:07 | 0:32:13 | |
It was really violent over here. | 0:32:13 | 0:32:15 | |
The first gig we did in Washington, | 0:32:19 | 0:32:22 | |
they'd overturned a police car and set it on fire, and this was while we | 0:32:22 | 0:32:26 | |
were loading the gear up, there's like a riot going on all around us. | 0:32:26 | 0:32:30 | |
I think kids were so angry over here and this was the perfect music for the release of their anger. | 0:32:34 | 0:32:40 | |
There were hundreds and hundreds of vets coming in to the shows, and they were in wheelchairs, | 0:32:46 | 0:32:53 | |
and they would have like a flag on their wheelchair. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:56 | |
So they got Children Of The Grave, they got Iron Man, you know, | 0:33:02 | 0:33:05 | |
they didn't need to translate it or anything else. | 0:33:05 | 0:33:09 | |
They felt it. They heard it. They enjoyed it. | 0:33:09 | 0:33:12 | |
When we played War Pigs, God bless them, nearly to a man they all stood | 0:33:12 | 0:33:18 | |
up and they were being held up in their wheelchairs, | 0:33:18 | 0:33:22 | |
and when you see that you don't forget that. | 0:33:22 | 0:33:26 | |
And um... | 0:33:26 | 0:33:28 | |
I didn't know I was going to cry this morning. | 0:33:32 | 0:33:35 | |
While American rock flirted with the darkness, | 0:33:39 | 0:33:41 | |
British proto-metal bands faced the harsh realities | 0:33:41 | 0:33:45 | |
of a '60s dream turned '70s nightmare head on. | 0:33:45 | 0:33:50 | |
There's something endemic in the British psyche, | 0:33:50 | 0:33:57 | |
if you like, or the British way of looking at music or being a musician that seems to | 0:33:57 | 0:34:02 | |
be a quite a gritty, no-nonsense way of looking... Lennon, you know. | 0:34:02 | 0:34:10 | |
It's the charge of the light brigade, isn't it? It's that British thing. | 0:34:25 | 0:34:30 | |
It's that thing that every 20-year-old feels - you know everything and you're immortal. | 0:34:30 | 0:34:36 | |
When I was 21, I DID know everything and I was immortal. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:41 | |
I keep coming back to this word "dark". | 0:34:41 | 0:34:45 | |
Dark Satanic mills, you know, it's there in Blake's poetry. | 0:34:49 | 0:34:53 | |
I think it's part of the British character. | 0:34:56 | 0:35:00 | |
There's a cynicism, there's a darkness about us. | 0:35:00 | 0:35:03 | |
You can go to any village or town in, you know, England, Wales, Scotland, Ireland, | 0:35:03 | 0:35:10 | |
and pluck out a history book of that area and it's seeped in it. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:15 | |
You know, so... | 0:35:15 | 0:35:17 | |
for me, being a lyricist, | 0:35:17 | 0:35:18 | |
writing that type of song, it's a fantastic place to be, actually! | 0:35:18 | 0:35:23 | |
Already the feeling of a lot of people was, | 0:35:27 | 0:35:32 | |
"Hang on a minute, we're making our own kind of new sound here." | 0:35:32 | 0:35:36 | |
Metal, heavy metal music, comes from the UK. | 0:35:36 | 0:35:39 | |
The first strains of British heavy metal, | 0:35:49 | 0:35:51 | |
under the leadership of Black Sabbath, were drenched in doom and gloom. | 0:35:51 | 0:35:55 | |
The fairies and wizards of progressive rock became demons and devils | 0:35:55 | 0:35:59 | |
in a contemporary world characterised by paranoia and dysfunction, loneliness and fear. | 0:35:59 | 0:36:06 | |
Sabbath were a conundrum because nobody sounded like Ozzy. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:17 | |
He was a great interpreter of...something, | 0:36:17 | 0:36:22 | |
some kind of strange, scary soul that came through the music, | 0:36:22 | 0:36:28 | |
and it was just the right kind of voice to complement the riffs. | 0:36:28 | 0:36:33 | |
And the riffs just seemed | 0:36:33 | 0:36:35 | |
to have their origin in the dark night of the soul of every adolescent. | 0:36:35 | 0:36:40 | |
That element of darkness, | 0:36:43 | 0:36:45 | |
that kind of sombre, melancholy, you know, | 0:36:45 | 0:36:50 | |
not exactly doom and gloom, | 0:36:50 | 0:36:51 | |
but talking about things that in popular music you never went there. | 0:36:51 | 0:36:55 | |
You know, the Beatles, "She loves you, yeah, yeah". | 0:36:55 | 0:36:58 | |
And metal bands were singing about the angst | 0:36:58 | 0:37:02 | |
and the pain and the difficult things in life. | 0:37:02 | 0:37:07 | |
That was quite an important statement. | 0:37:07 | 0:37:10 | |
Despite being ridiculed by the rock press, | 0:37:15 | 0:37:18 | |
the early rumblings of British heavy metal began to surface around the country. | 0:37:18 | 0:37:22 | |
They were heard in the Welsh Valleys courtesy of Budgie, | 0:37:22 | 0:37:25 | |
a band that adhered more to the blues-based power of Led Zeppelin and Free | 0:37:25 | 0:37:29 | |
than the paranoia of Black Sabbath. | 0:37:29 | 0:37:32 | |
British heavy metal was still in a molten state | 0:37:32 | 0:37:35 | |
as it edged its way through communities that were also on the brink of change. | 0:37:35 | 0:37:39 | |
A lot of places around the Valleys, | 0:37:43 | 0:37:46 | |
the South Wales Valleys, | 0:37:46 | 0:37:49 | |
every village would have ten clubs in it. | 0:37:49 | 0:37:51 | |
You had the Labour Club, the Conservative Club, | 0:37:51 | 0:37:54 | |
the Liberal Club, the non-political club, | 0:37:54 | 0:37:56 | |
the Miners' Welfare, the rugby club. | 0:37:56 | 0:37:58 | |
And they'd all have a shindig on a Saturday night. | 0:37:58 | 0:38:01 | |
# I ain't messin' | 0:38:01 | 0:38:03 | |
# Call your name | 0:38:03 | 0:38:05 | |
# Don't you ever | 0:38:05 | 0:38:07 | |
# Turn your back on a friend | 0:38:07 | 0:38:10 | |
# Slowly come, girl, to my bed | 0:38:10 | 0:38:14 | |
# Underrated | 0:38:14 | 0:38:17 | |
# Underfed... # | 0:38:17 | 0:38:20 | |
You're chopping licks. There are gaps. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:23 | |
Bam, gap. Ba-dum-dum, gap. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:26 | |
In-between that gap, there's this drum. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:28 | |
Bam ba-um-pum da, you know. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:30 | |
It fills the gap. | 0:38:30 | 0:38:32 | |
Pound it out with a big fat chord, and I'd just get a big kick. | 0:38:42 | 0:38:47 | |
We all did. That's what we liked doing. | 0:38:47 | 0:38:49 | |
# Slowly come, girl, to my bed | 0:38:49 | 0:38:54 | |
# Underrated | 0:38:54 | 0:38:57 | |
# Underfed... # | 0:38:57 | 0:38:58 | |
Never bought a Black Sabbath album or Uriah Heep or Deep Purple, never did. Not my type of music. | 0:38:58 | 0:39:05 | |
I wasn't interested. | 0:39:05 | 0:39:07 | |
Black Sabbath, who were signed at the same time as us, | 0:39:09 | 0:39:12 | |
they were doing their demos, | 0:39:12 | 0:39:14 | |
we had to wait till they finished theirs so we could do ours. | 0:39:14 | 0:39:18 | |
What did they come out with? Paranoid. | 0:39:18 | 0:39:20 | |
Think of Communication Breakdown. | 0:39:20 | 0:39:23 | |
It's the same thing. They did it slightly differently, | 0:39:23 | 0:39:26 | |
put their chop chording in a different place. | 0:39:26 | 0:39:29 | |
But they'd wised up. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:30 | |
MUSIC: Paranoid by Black Sabbath | 0:39:30 | 0:39:32 | |
# Finished with my woman cos she couldn't help me with my mind | 0:39:40 | 0:39:45 | |
# People think I'm insane | 0:39:45 | 0:39:48 | |
# Because I am frowning all the time... # | 0:39:48 | 0:39:50 | |
Throughout the early '70s, as hard rock became heavy rock, | 0:39:50 | 0:39:54 | |
the essential component that would drive heavy metal began to assert itself - | 0:39:54 | 0:40:00 | |
the primary power source that was the guitar riff. | 0:40:00 | 0:40:03 | |
# All day long I think of things But nothing seems to satisfy | 0:40:03 | 0:40:09 | |
# Think I'll lose my mind if I don't find something to pacify... # | 0:40:09 | 0:40:14 | |
HE PLAYS "PARANOID" RIFF | 0:40:14 | 0:40:17 | |
Tony Iommi's riffs were always heavy. | 0:40:24 | 0:40:27 | |
They were big and they were never up the fretboard, | 0:40:27 | 0:40:31 | |
they were always down there. | 0:40:31 | 0:40:34 | |
The essential thing for a metal song | 0:40:34 | 0:40:38 | |
is the guitar riff has to be killer. | 0:40:38 | 0:40:42 | |
Symptom Of The Universe. | 0:40:42 | 0:40:44 | |
HE PLAYS RIFF | 0:40:44 | 0:40:46 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:40:48 | 0:40:50 | |
What came first, the riff or the chicken? I don't know. | 0:40:50 | 0:40:53 | |
Or the singer or the egg? I don't know. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:55 | |
But it's interesting that with blues... | 0:40:55 | 0:41:01 | |
there were always some kind of riffs that were very simple, | 0:41:01 | 0:41:05 | |
and this is how it started. | 0:41:05 | 0:41:06 | |
PLAYS RIFF | 0:41:06 | 0:41:08 | |
That one. | 0:41:15 | 0:41:16 | |
Brook Benton had a hit record | 0:41:16 | 0:41:18 | |
with a song called Kiddio, which had a riff which went... | 0:41:18 | 0:41:24 | |
HE HUMS RIFF # Told you, baby, how I feel... # | 0:41:24 | 0:41:28 | |
And it's that "duh-doodle-de-dum". | 0:41:28 | 0:41:30 | |
And you hear that on a lot of riffs, and then suddenly, | 0:41:30 | 0:41:35 | |
some years later, you hear the, "duh-doodle-de-dum, tsh" | 0:41:35 | 0:41:39 | |
You hear, "ba-ding-guh-ding-ding chukka-tsh, chukka-tsh". | 0:41:39 | 0:41:44 | |
Same notes, just a different slant on the whole thing, and it's blues-based. | 0:41:44 | 0:41:48 | |
Smoke On The Water is one, isn't it? | 0:41:48 | 0:41:50 | |
PLAYS POWER CHORDS | 0:41:50 | 0:41:52 | |
The riff of Black Night was actually nicked from a little bass riff | 0:41:57 | 0:42:04 | |
under Ricky Nelson's version of Summertime. | 0:42:04 | 0:42:08 | |
That just... You know, that just went like that... | 0:42:08 | 0:42:13 | |
PLAYS "BLACK NIGHT" ON PIANO | 0:42:13 | 0:42:14 | |
MUSIC: Black Night by Deep Purple | 0:42:18 | 0:42:21 | |
We just put that turnaround in it. | 0:42:23 | 0:42:25 | |
So riffs had always been part of it, | 0:42:32 | 0:42:34 | |
but then they got louder and then they became a part of the song. | 0:42:34 | 0:42:38 | |
# Black night, black night | 0:42:38 | 0:42:41 | |
# I don't need black night | 0:42:41 | 0:42:45 | |
# I can't see dark light | 0:42:45 | 0:42:48 | |
# Maybe I'll find on the way down the line | 0:42:48 | 0:42:51 | |
# That I'm free | 0:42:51 | 0:42:54 | |
# Free to be me | 0:42:54 | 0:42:57 | |
# Black night is a long way from home... # | 0:42:58 | 0:43:05 | |
And I think each band tries to "out-heavy" the next. | 0:43:06 | 0:43:11 | |
-You need a heavy-o-meter! -Maybe, yeah! | 0:43:11 | 0:43:15 | |
Heavy-osity. | 0:43:15 | 0:43:17 | |
By the mid-70s, proto-metal had developed a pact with its growing audience | 0:43:20 | 0:43:24 | |
to provide ear-splitting, bone-crunching walls of sound. | 0:43:24 | 0:43:29 | |
The music was becoming louder as well as prouder. | 0:43:29 | 0:43:33 | |
We were playing something that was responsive, you would have to respond to it. | 0:43:36 | 0:43:42 | |
We very much wanted to say, | 0:43:42 | 0:43:45 | |
"Hey, we're playing here. Listen to us." | 0:43:45 | 0:43:48 | |
MUSIC: Hand Of Doom by Black Sabbath | 0:43:48 | 0:43:51 | |
# From life you escape | 0:43:51 | 0:43:53 | |
# Reality will wait ... # | 0:43:55 | 0:43:59 | |
So that's one of the core reasons why we got louder, | 0:43:59 | 0:44:05 | |
got much, much louder. | 0:44:05 | 0:44:07 | |
We got very loud. | 0:44:07 | 0:44:08 | |
We used volume to enhance certain parts. | 0:44:12 | 0:44:16 | |
You'd play a quiet part | 0:44:16 | 0:44:17 | |
and then the volume coming in to a loud bit would be more power. | 0:44:17 | 0:44:21 | |
We tried to use it in not just because it's loud, | 0:44:21 | 0:44:27 | |
we tried to use it as a part of the song. | 0:44:27 | 0:44:29 | |
Those people that don't understand metal, firstly it's, "It's too loud, it does my head in." | 0:44:45 | 0:44:50 | |
For us, that's the joy of it, that's the luxury of it. | 0:44:50 | 0:44:53 | |
Give us more volume, turn everything past ten. | 0:44:53 | 0:44:56 | |
You've got to crank it up. | 0:44:56 | 0:44:57 | |
You need steam coming out of it. | 0:44:57 | 0:44:59 | |
You need your foot to the floor, pedal to the metal. | 0:44:59 | 0:45:02 | |
You need it at maximum revs. | 0:45:02 | 0:45:04 | |
You'll never get off the ground otherwise. | 0:45:04 | 0:45:06 | |
When Blackmore was grinding it out on the other side of the stage, | 0:45:20 | 0:45:24 | |
there was tremendous excitement, you know, I wanted to hear that Hammond growling away madly. | 0:45:24 | 0:45:30 | |
I rapidly became quite pleased that we were on the stage and not in the audience. | 0:45:38 | 0:45:43 | |
Lucky for us, | 0:45:43 | 0:45:46 | |
we've got these ears here to protect us | 0:45:46 | 0:45:48 | |
because we've got the flaps here and the music is behind us. | 0:45:48 | 0:45:51 | |
But these, they're right in the front of it, you know! | 0:45:51 | 0:45:54 | |
# Well nobody gonna take my wife I'm gonna keep her everywhere | 0:45:56 | 0:46:00 | |
# Nobody gonna take my wife I'm gonna keep her to the end. # | 0:46:00 | 0:46:05 | |
You'd see suddenly wall-to-wall Marshall stacks that had you | 0:46:05 | 0:46:10 | |
cowering in the corner before they even turned on the standby switch. | 0:46:10 | 0:46:14 | |
In fact, often the cry came up from the crowds, "Turn it up!" | 0:46:17 | 0:46:22 | |
MUSIC: Mars, The Bringer Of War from The Planets by Holst | 0:46:22 | 0:46:24 | |
The dark heavy metal sound and its powerful dynamic range owed | 0:46:24 | 0:46:28 | |
a debt to the shock and awe of symphonic music. | 0:46:28 | 0:46:32 | |
I definitely think classical music plays its part in heavy metal. | 0:46:33 | 0:46:38 | |
Why are orchestras so big? Why do they have such huge | 0:46:39 | 0:46:42 | |
brass sections and string sections in symphony orchestras? | 0:46:42 | 0:46:46 | |
You could quite easily play the same music with a couple of each. | 0:46:46 | 0:46:49 | |
The reason they have 80 or 90 or a hundred if they can, with these huge, massive percussion sections and | 0:46:57 | 0:47:03 | |
eight double basses, | 0:47:03 | 0:47:05 | |
it's amazing. | 0:47:05 | 0:47:07 | |
It's natural to want to create power. | 0:47:07 | 0:47:09 | |
# Breaking the law! Breaking the law! # | 0:47:11 | 0:47:13 | |
Some bands, inspired by the heaviness of Sabbath, Deep Purple and Uriah Heap, | 0:47:13 | 0:47:18 | |
pushed the music further away from its blues roots and into a faster form of metal-sounding rock. | 0:47:18 | 0:47:24 | |
Birmingham based Judas Priest began forging a new kind of high tensile British Steel, | 0:47:27 | 0:47:33 | |
less gloomy but pumped up with the volume of not one but two guitars. | 0:47:33 | 0:47:38 | |
While one of the guitarists plays lead break | 0:47:47 | 0:47:50 | |
the other can play rhythm. | 0:47:50 | 0:47:51 | |
Or you've got the great big stereo chord sound, which is again very metal. | 0:47:54 | 0:48:00 | |
# I got no place, no name I'm just a killing machine. # | 0:48:02 | 0:48:06 | |
A lot of our music is about, "get out there and do it with your life," | 0:48:06 | 0:48:11 | |
it's actually a very positive outlook, lyrically, on everything, you know and "survive". | 0:48:11 | 0:48:17 | |
# Got expensive tastes But I hasten to add | 0:48:17 | 0:48:21 | |
# That I'm the best that there is. | 0:48:21 | 0:48:23 | |
# They pay me the money And I'll do the job | 0:48:23 | 0:48:26 | |
# I got a contract on you. # | 0:48:26 | 0:48:28 | |
There's a need for something new. | 0:48:28 | 0:48:30 | |
There's a need for a new sound. | 0:48:30 | 0:48:33 | |
There's a need to see a new band, to hear a new way of playing guitar, a new way of singing. | 0:48:33 | 0:48:38 | |
Rob Halford's six-octave vocal range confirmed that the scream was now | 0:48:40 | 0:48:45 | |
a front-line weapon in the metal armoury. | 0:48:45 | 0:48:48 | |
Men in heat would sound like girls in pain. | 0:48:48 | 0:48:52 | |
The high and hairy legacy of Robert Plant and Ian Gillan was here to stay. | 0:48:52 | 0:48:57 | |
The Americans absolutely loved Robert Plant. | 0:48:59 | 0:49:03 | |
He was the big, you know, | 0:49:03 | 0:49:05 | |
blonde hair and everything else, | 0:49:05 | 0:49:08 | |
and that slightly ambivalent sexuality. | 0:49:08 | 0:49:11 | |
# Way down inside! # | 0:49:11 | 0:49:13 | |
The Americans thought, "Great, you've just got to be tall and skinny and sing real high." | 0:49:13 | 0:49:18 | |
That was the definition of a heavy metal singer. | 0:49:18 | 0:49:20 | |
How does Ozzy do it? | 0:49:20 | 0:49:22 | |
How does Lemmy do it? | 0:49:22 | 0:49:24 | |
How do I do it? How does Bruce do it? | 0:49:24 | 0:49:26 | |
Bruce is a bit younger than me. | 0:49:26 | 0:49:28 | |
But I mean, it's mad, isn't it, when you think about it? | 0:49:28 | 0:49:31 | |
I get up in the morning and have a cup of tea and some cornflakes, | 0:49:31 | 0:49:34 | |
and that night I'm going to be on stage screaming my tits off. | 0:49:34 | 0:49:37 | |
# Honey didn't I give you nearly everything I ever had to give... # | 0:49:39 | 0:49:42 | |
The style of that singing, the root of that singing, you listen to some | 0:49:42 | 0:49:46 | |
of the early blues singers and people like Janis Joplin... | 0:49:46 | 0:49:49 | |
# When you hold me in your arms, and I say it once again... # | 0:49:49 | 0:49:54 | |
When she's going absolutely crazy... | 0:49:54 | 0:49:56 | |
# Oh, oh, oh gonna take it. # | 0:49:56 | 0:49:59 | |
You know, what it's like she's mad, she's possessed, but that was | 0:49:59 | 0:50:04 | |
unusual for a girl to put on that kind of very, almost masculine, display. | 0:50:04 | 0:50:10 | |
# Arghhh-oh-oh | 0:50:10 | 0:50:12 | |
# Well, you know you got it, if it makes you feel good. # | 0:50:13 | 0:50:18 | |
And that's what part of metal is about for a lot of singers, it's the intensity of the performance. | 0:50:18 | 0:50:25 | |
# I'm in love So in love | 0:50:25 | 0:50:28 | |
# And I can't stop talking # 'Bout my love forever. # | 0:50:28 | 0:50:36 | |
It's like, when I've done a show and I go back to hotel room and I'm | 0:50:36 | 0:50:39 | |
lying in bed, I'm like, "Was that me? Did I just do that?" | 0:50:39 | 0:50:42 | |
# My fever... # | 0:50:42 | 0:50:44 | |
You've got to be able to balance it out. I'm not on stage 24 hours a day. | 0:50:44 | 0:50:49 | |
I need to be able to go down to Morrisons and do my shopping. | 0:50:52 | 0:50:55 | |
# Yes, I'm talking 'bout... # | 0:50:55 | 0:50:56 | |
The beast was developing a uniquely tribal, highly physical relationship | 0:50:58 | 0:51:02 | |
with its dedicated audience - a union that was blessed most spectacularly in concert, live. | 0:51:02 | 0:51:09 | |
You feel uplifted, you feel excited, | 0:51:13 | 0:51:15 | |
you feel like aggression is pouring out of you. | 0:51:15 | 0:51:18 | |
You feel like you absolutely want to go, "Yeah!" | 0:51:18 | 0:51:20 | |
And you know you're witnessing something very special, and everybody else around you feels the same way. | 0:51:25 | 0:51:32 | |
If you don't do something | 0:51:32 | 0:51:35 | |
that involves the audience, then | 0:51:35 | 0:51:38 | |
you know, it's not good. | 0:51:38 | 0:51:40 | |
You have to use that | 0:51:40 | 0:51:42 | |
power in a great way to make people feel good and have a good time. | 0:51:42 | 0:51:48 | |
A good time was being had by all. | 0:51:53 | 0:51:56 | |
Well, not all, exactly. | 0:51:56 | 0:51:58 | |
Audiences tended to be dominated by boys and men, absorbed in displays of private | 0:51:58 | 0:52:03 | |
dancing, tribal head-banging, and air-guitar playing to a music that didn't seem to appeal much to women. | 0:52:03 | 0:52:11 | |
You're in some hall somewhere, some smelly club, with a bunch of | 0:52:11 | 0:52:15 | |
hairy biker types and a lot of dandruff flying around. | 0:52:15 | 0:52:19 | |
I don't know, it's just not so cute, you know. | 0:52:19 | 0:52:23 | |
There weren't that many women involved. | 0:52:23 | 0:52:27 | |
Metal is, it's fair to say, primarily, it's primarily male. | 0:52:29 | 0:52:36 | |
-It is. -Again, in the early days, it made sense, because it was a very brutal, intense type of experience. | 0:52:38 | 0:52:45 | |
Somehow, metal became a male domain and male province, | 0:52:45 | 0:52:48 | |
because of the lifestyle, the denim and leather, | 0:52:48 | 0:52:50 | |
the patches and so forth, the collectability - | 0:52:50 | 0:52:52 | |
it all spoke to the male psyche, rather than the female one. | 0:52:52 | 0:52:56 | |
Because it's primarily male, people assume it's therefore sexist, | 0:52:56 | 0:53:00 | |
and actually it's not, it's very inclusive. | 0:53:00 | 0:53:02 | |
When you do get included in it, | 0:53:02 | 0:53:05 | |
um...it's great. | 0:53:05 | 0:53:07 | |
It's just that girlies do Hannah Montana more, which is a shame. | 0:53:07 | 0:53:14 | |
Because I wish they would do a bit more metal. | 0:53:14 | 0:53:16 | |
Audiences also dressed exactly like their favourite bands. | 0:53:18 | 0:53:22 | |
Long hair, denim and leather, patches and insignia, seemed to be | 0:53:22 | 0:53:26 | |
the obligatory proto-metal dress code of those offstage and on. | 0:53:26 | 0:53:30 | |
You know, the bell-bottoms, the long hair, the whole thing, it was the total package, wasn't it? | 0:53:32 | 0:53:40 | |
Down on your knees, giving it some. | 0:53:40 | 0:53:41 | |
Happy days! | 0:53:41 | 0:53:43 | |
The Americans really had scarves and things wrapped around. | 0:53:44 | 0:53:48 | |
They did, Aerosmith and Van Halen, it was all a bit, you know, a bit west coasty, Beach Boy thing. | 0:53:48 | 0:53:55 | |
But we were more studs and metal, and swords, and medieval. | 0:53:55 | 0:54:00 | |
I think it's the history thing. | 0:54:00 | 0:54:02 | |
Among the British bands, it was Judas Priest who would take the heavy metal look further, firstly | 0:54:05 | 0:54:11 | |
with brightly-coloured spandex, and then on to what became the classic, | 0:54:11 | 0:54:14 | |
faintly homoerotic, metal uniform of tight black leather and studs - the biker look, including the bike. | 0:54:14 | 0:54:23 | |
The big thing was, it became international. | 0:54:26 | 0:54:30 | |
It went out of the borders of the UK and Europe, and started | 0:54:30 | 0:54:33 | |
to go all over the place, particularly in the States. | 0:54:33 | 0:54:36 | |
Come on, let's have a party! | 0:54:39 | 0:54:42 | |
British heavy metal proved to be a hugely successful export, particularly in the States. | 0:54:44 | 0:54:49 | |
Its toughness, directness, monster sound, and sheer sense of scale, | 0:54:49 | 0:54:53 | |
seemed to strike a power chord with blue-collar America, from Pittsburgh to Detroit, New York to LA. | 0:54:53 | 0:55:00 | |
While bands like Sabbath and Uriah Heap were still unsung prophets in | 0:55:04 | 0:55:08 | |
their own land, the vast touring network of the States rewarded them with adulation, money and success. | 0:55:08 | 0:55:15 | |
We had the Learjets, and we had the whole | 0:55:15 | 0:55:18 | |
floor of the hotel, bodyguards outside... | 0:55:18 | 0:55:21 | |
It was all silly stuff, but it was just fantastic. | 0:55:21 | 0:55:23 | |
They just took it on board and they couldn't get enough of it. Yeah. | 0:55:23 | 0:55:27 | |
That's when we really did | 0:55:27 | 0:55:30 | |
come into a load of "different" | 0:55:30 | 0:55:33 | |
people, let's put it that way. | 0:55:33 | 0:55:35 | |
They came out of the woodwork, some real strange people, witches and all sorts of things. | 0:55:35 | 0:55:41 | |
We attracted so many strange people. | 0:55:41 | 0:55:44 | |
We used to have wizards turning up at the dressing room, and outside | 0:55:44 | 0:55:49 | |
and we would bring them in and have a laugh with them, you know. | 0:55:49 | 0:55:52 | |
It got really, really silly, you know, wizards turning up everywhere! | 0:55:52 | 0:55:57 | |
# You've got to be our baby | 0:55:57 | 0:56:01 | |
# You've got to be our baby, to go to heaven. # | 0:56:01 | 0:56:07 | |
If some Americans worshipped at the altar of British heaviness, others adopted the role of | 0:56:07 | 0:56:12 | |
Witchfinder Generals, self-appointed saviours fighting | 0:56:12 | 0:56:16 | |
to protect the vulnerable souls of America's impressionable youth. | 0:56:16 | 0:56:20 | |
# ..to go to heaven. # | 0:56:20 | 0:56:24 | |
You'd switch the local news on and you'd hear, | 0:56:25 | 0:56:28 | |
"Black Sabbath are in town, and they're all Satanists. | 0:56:28 | 0:56:32 | |
"If you're going to the concert, don't look them in the eyes | 0:56:32 | 0:56:35 | |
"or forever you'll be possessed." | 0:56:35 | 0:56:37 | |
-Hail Satan. -Hail Satan. | 0:56:37 | 0:56:40 | |
A lot of the people that believed in Jesus Christ were really, really | 0:56:41 | 0:56:46 | |
convinced that we were a Satanic band, an evil band, and deserved to die. | 0:56:46 | 0:56:52 | |
And I believe they actually tried that a couple of times. | 0:56:52 | 0:56:55 | |
We were due to play in America at this town, | 0:56:55 | 0:56:59 | |
and the church banned us from playing. | 0:56:59 | 0:57:02 | |
For some reason the church got burnt down, and guess who got the blame? | 0:57:02 | 0:57:07 | |
So they really did think that we were a band that had a manager called Lucifer. | 0:57:11 | 0:57:18 | |
Actually, we did have a manager called Lucifer, but that's a different story. | 0:57:18 | 0:57:22 | |
Satan went mainstream in 1973 with the American movie, The Exorcist. | 0:57:26 | 0:57:32 | |
But America's fundamentalist fear of unwittingly importing British | 0:57:32 | 0:57:36 | |
paganism through music wasn't totally unfounded. | 0:57:36 | 0:57:40 | |
Strange goings-on were often the order of the day in Camp Heavy. | 0:57:40 | 0:57:46 | |
We used to do all sorts. We used to drag people off in the night | 0:57:46 | 0:57:49 | |
and go and sit in the middle of the Rollright Stones or some site, and get into all of that stuff. | 0:57:49 | 0:57:55 | |
That, that was in... I mean so many things were in our music. | 0:57:55 | 0:57:59 | |
There was a lot of stuff going on. There was with you, you were into a bit of dark, | 0:57:59 | 0:58:04 | |
-dark stuff. -Me? Was I? | 0:58:04 | 0:58:05 | |
Briefly, a brief flirtation with the old darker side. | 0:58:08 | 0:58:11 | |
But, I suppose it was something everybody was getting into. | 0:58:11 | 0:58:15 | |
It was taboo to talk about things like Aleister Crowley.. | 0:58:15 | 0:58:19 | |
Spiritual things and occult things... | 0:58:19 | 0:58:21 | |
No, no, we're not all devil worshippers. | 0:58:21 | 0:58:26 | |
I think most bands will deny that they're, | 0:58:26 | 0:58:30 | |
that they're in league with Satan. | 0:58:30 | 0:58:33 | |
I got this flat on my own, and I painted it all black and had all | 0:58:38 | 0:58:43 | |
these crosses upside down everywhere, and pictures of Satan and everything. | 0:58:43 | 0:58:48 | |
The aim is always at Christ, you know, Christianity. | 0:58:48 | 0:58:51 | |
That's where it's always at. | 0:58:51 | 0:58:53 | |
Judas Priest, Black Sabbath, and all the rest of them, | 0:58:53 | 0:58:57 | |
the names are all fiddling around and want to sound menacing. | 0:58:57 | 0:59:01 | |
The lords of the watch towers of the South... | 0:59:01 | 0:59:05 | |
I'm a Christian, so I don't mess with anything like that. | 0:59:05 | 0:59:09 | |
Cos I read in the Bible it's a bad thing to mess around with anything. | 0:59:09 | 0:59:15 | |
In my particular case, | 0:59:18 | 0:59:20 | |
I stopped doing certain things | 0:59:20 | 0:59:22 | |
very early on in our career, because things got | 0:59:22 | 0:59:29 | |
out of control, that's the best way I can put it. | 0:59:29 | 0:59:33 | |
I'll leave that as something that was private to me. | 0:59:34 | 0:59:37 | |
Because there is macabre inside us, inside everyone. | 0:59:40 | 0:59:45 | |
Lust is such a large source of energy that can drain us, | 0:59:49 | 0:59:55 | |
in good ways and bad ways. | 0:59:55 | 0:59:57 | |
There was a lot of weird things happened within Sabbath | 0:59:57 | 1:00:01 | |
that we couldn't explain. | 1:00:01 | 1:00:03 | |
It might have been the drugs, but... | 1:00:06 | 1:00:10 | |
I don't think so. | 1:00:10 | 1:00:12 | |
As the night wears on, the witches, by tradition, become more frenzied in their enjoyment of this religion. | 1:00:12 | 1:00:18 | |
In their eagerness to prove their magical powers, they show their ability to ignore pain. | 1:00:18 | 1:00:26 | |
This is just beyond... these people... | 1:00:26 | 1:00:30 | |
those kids that are doing it, they don't believe they are doing anything particularly wrong, | 1:00:30 | 1:00:35 | |
they don't believe there's a devil, they don't believe there's a God, | 1:00:35 | 1:00:38 | |
they just think it's a lark. | 1:00:38 | 1:00:40 | |
There's a few Satan references in some of our songs and lyrics. | 1:00:41 | 1:00:47 | |
I don't know why, it just seems | 1:00:47 | 1:00:52 | |
right to be singing about that kind of subject matter over this kind of music. | 1:00:52 | 1:00:57 | |
"Love grows Where My Rosemary Goes..." | 1:00:57 | 1:01:01 | |
It just doesn't fit. | 1:01:01 | 1:01:02 | |
It's heavy so if it's what you call "heavy metal", | 1:01:02 | 1:01:07 | |
then you've got to put a pretty heavy lyric to it. | 1:01:07 | 1:01:10 | |
I suppose, writing about the darker forces and the darker sides or whatever fits the music. | 1:01:10 | 1:01:17 | |
You would hardly write about a love song to that kind of heaviness. | 1:01:17 | 1:01:22 | |
Somehow, "Satan is the...", | 1:01:22 | 1:01:25 | |
is more appropriate, somehow, | 1:01:25 | 1:01:28 | |
over this titanic riffage. | 1:01:28 | 1:01:31 | |
# Oh Lord, oh Lord now help me | 1:01:38 | 1:01:40 | |
# This entrance falling down | 1:01:40 | 1:01:42 | |
# The madness of our father's law | 1:01:44 | 1:01:49 | |
# The pain of retribution | 1:01:49 | 1:01:52 | |
# The house brought down to ground | 1:01:52 | 1:01:55 | |
# Sins of my ancestors | 1:01:55 | 1:01:57 | |
# The judgment day's at hand. # | 1:01:57 | 1:01:59 | |
They want to look demonic, though, they want to look like demons now. | 1:01:59 | 1:02:03 | |
Shaved head, covered in | 1:02:03 | 1:02:05 | |
tattoos, you know, | 1:02:05 | 1:02:07 | |
little beardy, goatee beardy things. | 1:02:07 | 1:02:10 | |
Some people say, "you set yourselves up, | 1:02:10 | 1:02:13 | |
"if you're a Marilyn Manson you set yourselves up for trouble. | 1:02:13 | 1:02:16 | |
"If you're Ozzy, biting the head of a bat, you set yourselves up." You don't. | 1:02:16 | 1:02:19 | |
We're entertainers. That might sound a very flimsy way to describe us. | 1:02:27 | 1:02:32 | |
We're entertaining you, we're giving you a great night out. | 1:02:32 | 1:02:35 | |
You know. Come and see the band with your mates, have | 1:02:35 | 1:02:38 | |
a great night out, and that's basically what it's about, surely. | 1:02:38 | 1:02:43 | |
It did used to cross my mind that the devil could | 1:02:47 | 1:02:50 | |
be included in some way, or could have his hands on it in some way. | 1:02:50 | 1:02:55 | |
But, in the lust for glory of it all, you take no notice anyway and you just keep going. Say nothing. | 1:02:55 | 1:03:04 | |
1975. | 1:03:14 | 1:03:16 | |
In a desolate location near London's North Circular, | 1:03:16 | 1:03:19 | |
DJ Neal Kay established the first real home for hard rock, heavy rock, | 1:03:19 | 1:03:25 | |
and heavy metal enthusiasts - The Soundhouse, bivouacked at the local pub called the Bandwagon. | 1:03:25 | 1:03:30 | |
There was nowhere like this anywhere in this country at the time. | 1:03:33 | 1:03:37 | |
Because it was a street-driven thing, there was no national link. | 1:03:40 | 1:03:45 | |
There was no, you know. | 1:03:45 | 1:03:47 | |
They were at everywhere, but they needed somewhere | 1:03:47 | 1:03:50 | |
to believe in, somewhere to go, a place to call their own. | 1:03:50 | 1:03:54 | |
It took five years, really, of very, very hard work | 1:03:54 | 1:03:58 | |
and a lot of persistence to change the whole situation around. | 1:03:58 | 1:04:02 | |
These days, as you're well aware, we run five nights a week, hard rock, | 1:04:02 | 1:04:06 | |
and soul's gone straight out the door, that way, sideways. | 1:04:06 | 1:04:09 | |
Neal Kay and the Soundhouse punters took the initiative and began building a scene of their own, | 1:04:13 | 1:04:18 | |
one that would unite the heavy metal fraternity. | 1:04:18 | 1:04:22 | |
We had regulars fly over from Northern Ireland. | 1:04:24 | 1:04:26 | |
We had people come in from Jersey. | 1:04:26 | 1:04:28 | |
And then, in the latter years of the Wagon, we started getting them from Europe. | 1:04:28 | 1:04:32 | |
And when they arrived, they found was this huge great sound system, | 1:04:32 | 1:04:35 | |
that absolutely crushed anything that stood in its path. | 1:04:35 | 1:04:38 | |
So people that came to the club could hear rock as if it were a concert. | 1:04:38 | 1:04:43 | |
It seemed as if the gods of rock and roll, natch, were parting the Red Sea to let us through. | 1:04:46 | 1:04:53 | |
The Soundhouse quickly became the Mecca for head-banging and air guitar, | 1:04:58 | 1:05:02 | |
and then the birthplace of a new form of spectator sport, courtesy of club regular, Rob Loonhouse. | 1:05:02 | 1:05:09 | |
Rob walked in the door one day somewhere about 1976, I guess. | 1:05:09 | 1:05:15 | |
And under his arm he had this | 1:05:15 | 1:05:17 | |
hardboard flying V. | 1:05:17 | 1:05:19 | |
Has it got frets on it? | 1:05:19 | 1:05:20 | |
No, I don't bother with frets, you know. | 1:05:20 | 1:05:23 | |
I think it's taking the piss a bit, really, | 1:05:23 | 1:05:26 | |
when you put frets on it. | 1:05:26 | 1:05:27 | |
You're making it look too much like a real guitar. | 1:05:27 | 1:05:30 | |
Everyone said, "Rob, what are you going to do with that, there's no strings on it?" | 1:05:30 | 1:05:35 | |
"Well, I don't need strings". | 1:05:35 | 1:05:37 | |
Later that night, Loonhouse birthed a new sub-species of the beast. | 1:05:39 | 1:05:44 | |
Suddenly, Rob appears in front of everyone, and he starts playing it | 1:05:46 | 1:05:49 | |
along with the solo, and he's absolutely perfect. | 1:05:49 | 1:05:53 | |
When you go to a classical concert, | 1:06:01 | 1:06:04 | |
you get the music on music paper to follow it through. | 1:06:04 | 1:06:08 | |
You're not a lunatic for doing this, you're | 1:06:08 | 1:06:11 | |
passionately wrapped up and involved in the intensity of the performance. | 1:06:11 | 1:06:16 | |
You wish to follow the moves the musicians are making. | 1:06:16 | 1:06:18 | |
The people coming to the Soundhouse were the same kind of people with the same ethics. | 1:06:22 | 1:06:27 | |
They wanted to be inside the music, they wanted to be as close to it as they possibly could get. | 1:06:27 | 1:06:32 | |
The lifeblood of the metal scene coagulated and scabbed | 1:06:35 | 1:06:39 | |
into something that could now be identified. | 1:06:39 | 1:06:42 | |
But the musicians who made the music were often uneasy with their new "heavy metal" tag. | 1:06:42 | 1:06:47 | |
I've never liked the phrase. | 1:06:50 | 1:06:52 | |
I've never applied it to Deep Purple. | 1:06:52 | 1:06:54 | |
Ah, you see, the big debate of who's metal, | 1:06:54 | 1:06:56 | |
who's rock, who's hard rock, and who's heavy metal. | 1:06:56 | 1:06:59 | |
I liked "hard rock", because | 1:06:59 | 1:07:01 | |
it said exactly what, | 1:07:01 | 1:07:04 | |
what it was. It was rock-and-roll, but it was played with aggression. | 1:07:04 | 1:07:07 | |
And then some people started calling it "heavy rock", | 1:07:07 | 1:07:10 | |
and I'm not sure where the words "heavy" came from. | 1:07:10 | 1:07:12 | |
Possibly after Black Sabbath. | 1:07:12 | 1:07:13 | |
This came up many years ago with me, | 1:07:13 | 1:07:15 | |
because I always classed ourselves as heavy rock. | 1:07:15 | 1:07:18 | |
It kind of changed over when, um, | 1:07:18 | 1:07:21 | |
Motorhead and people come out like that. It was full on. You know. | 1:07:21 | 1:07:27 | |
Then they were actually "heavy metal". You know. | 1:07:27 | 1:07:30 | |
# I... | 1:07:30 | 1:07:32 | |
# I just took a ride | 1:07:32 | 1:07:34 | |
# In a silver machine | 1:07:36 | 1:07:38 | |
# And I'm still feeling mean. # | 1:07:39 | 1:07:42 | |
In 1975, the man known simply as Lemmy stepped off | 1:07:42 | 1:07:47 | |
Hawkwind's Silver Machine to form the band that was Motorhead. | 1:07:47 | 1:07:52 | |
Out went space rock, in came the punter driven, user-friendly garage approach. | 1:07:52 | 1:07:57 | |
Out went acid, in came speed. | 1:07:57 | 1:07:59 | |
But, was it heavy metal thunder, or just rock-and-roll? | 1:07:59 | 1:08:03 | |
He wasn't saying. He still doesn't. | 1:08:03 | 1:08:06 | |
Don't analyse it, I told you, man, before we started. | 1:08:09 | 1:08:12 | |
I'm not analysing it, I'm just asking! | 1:08:12 | 1:08:14 | |
You're trying to understand. | 1:08:16 | 1:08:17 | |
Why? | 1:08:17 | 1:08:19 | |
Just enjoy it at face value, that's what I do. | 1:08:20 | 1:08:22 | |
It's fairly simple, and it's very loud, and it's very fast. | 1:08:24 | 1:08:27 | |
And it's great driving music if you like driving into the side of bridges. | 1:08:27 | 1:08:31 | |
It's great music for hurling yourself off trees by. | 1:08:34 | 1:08:38 | |
# We're moving like a parallelogram | 1:08:40 | 1:08:42 | |
# Don't move I'll shut the door and kill the lights | 1:08:42 | 1:08:44 | |
# If I can't be wrong, I must be right, I should be tired, | 1:08:44 | 1:08:48 | |
# And all I am is wired | 1:08:48 | 1:08:50 | |
# Ain't felt this good for an hour | 1:08:50 | 1:08:53 | |
# Motorhead, remember me now, Motorhead all night | 1:08:53 | 1:08:58 | |
# Yeah, yeah, yeah, Motorhead! # | 1:09:00 | 1:09:04 | |
It gets a lot of emotion out of you that would otherwise be channelled into bad things, maybe. | 1:09:04 | 1:09:10 | |
I do it cos I like it. | 1:09:20 | 1:09:21 | |
I don't know why, I just like it. | 1:09:23 | 1:09:25 | |
I like it. Is that so wrong? | 1:09:26 | 1:09:29 | |
People who work in a factory, right, or some awful fucking mind-numbing job like that... | 1:09:40 | 1:09:45 | |
Because I've worked in a factory, I know what it's like, it's fucking awful. | 1:09:45 | 1:09:49 | |
Most people have to do that kind of job, that they hate, every day of their lives. | 1:09:49 | 1:09:54 | |
Can you imagine what that must be like? | 1:09:54 | 1:09:56 | |
You have to submerge your intellect completely and just... | 1:09:56 | 1:10:01 | |
You know, all that. | 1:10:01 | 1:10:04 | |
At the weekend, they want to hear something that tears their heart out | 1:10:04 | 1:10:07 | |
and gives it them back better, you know? | 1:10:07 | 1:10:09 | |
This one's for the people that are into modern fashion. | 1:10:09 | 1:10:11 | |
By 1976, it didn't matter what you called it. | 1:10:13 | 1:10:16 | |
Punk was trampling everything under foot on its DIY three-chord advance. | 1:10:16 | 1:10:21 | |
Everything, that is, except metal, which seemed to have a built-in resistance. | 1:10:21 | 1:10:27 | |
Its champions didn't even get their hair cut. | 1:10:27 | 1:10:31 | |
I don't think punk musicians or fans really thought much about | 1:10:31 | 1:10:34 | |
metal, because it didn't have that definition. | 1:10:34 | 1:10:37 | |
If you said to a punk fan in 1977, "Do you like Budgie?", they would probably go, "Who?" | 1:10:37 | 1:10:43 | |
If you said, "Do you like Caravan?", "Rubbish, hate them, nonsense, dire." | 1:10:43 | 1:10:46 | |
I don't know if it damaged the line at all. | 1:10:49 | 1:10:51 | |
I think it just kind of gave it a bit more of a kick, you know, and made it | 1:10:51 | 1:10:58 | |
a bit faster and a bit more powerful. | 1:10:58 | 1:11:01 | |
Maybe brought it back down to the street a bit, | 1:11:01 | 1:11:03 | |
so that the kids could get back up on stage, you know? | 1:11:03 | 1:11:07 | |
You can think, if these guys can put this energy out without being able | 1:11:07 | 1:11:13 | |
to play very well, | 1:11:13 | 1:11:14 | |
we can put a lot more energy out because we can play better. | 1:11:14 | 1:11:18 | |
I used to think, I'm going to have to practise for 15 years to be as good as Ritchie Blackmore, at least. | 1:11:20 | 1:11:28 | |
When punk rock came along, I thought, | 1:11:28 | 1:11:31 | |
I can play like that, so maybe I should simplify my ideas a little bit. | 1:11:31 | 1:11:36 | |
Ahhhhh, we're gonna start now. | 1:11:38 | 1:11:40 | |
This aggression that the punk music had, | 1:11:42 | 1:11:45 | |
we quite liked, you know? | 1:11:45 | 1:11:48 | |
We liked it. | 1:11:48 | 1:11:50 | |
I think it really affected us. I don't think we copied it in any way but I think it went into our psyche. | 1:11:57 | 1:12:02 | |
Motorhead and The Damned toured together, quite a lot, so there was | 1:12:11 | 1:12:15 | |
that crossover at some point between punk and metal, an energy exchange, and both happily co-existed. | 1:12:15 | 1:12:23 | |
We sounded like punks so they liked us already, and then they saw we had long hair and it was too late. | 1:12:26 | 1:12:31 | |
They had already committed themselves. | 1:12:31 | 1:12:33 | |
I always wanted to be obnoxious because all the bands I liked were obnoxious, you know? | 1:12:38 | 1:12:42 | |
MC5. | 1:12:42 | 1:12:44 | |
We came out at the same time as the punks and I thought they were splendid. | 1:12:44 | 1:12:47 | |
And The Damned were great fun, you know? | 1:12:47 | 1:12:51 | |
Not all hard and heavy rockers survived the punk moment. | 1:12:56 | 1:13:00 | |
Deep Purple, by now an international success story, gracefully retired on the battlefield. | 1:13:00 | 1:13:05 | |
I think Deep Purple was becoming irrelevant, | 1:13:07 | 1:13:11 | |
not just musically... | 1:13:11 | 1:13:13 | |
..but to the people in the band. | 1:13:14 | 1:13:17 | |
Rock made its big mistake by becoming fat | 1:13:17 | 1:13:21 | |
and loathsome and bloated and pompous. | 1:13:21 | 1:13:23 | |
So, less contact with the streets. | 1:13:24 | 1:13:27 | |
# Sweet child in time | 1:13:27 | 1:13:29 | |
# You'll see the line. # | 1:13:30 | 1:13:32 | |
What had been our baby, our, er, | 1:13:34 | 1:13:38 | |
shining creation, had become tarnished and a little, | 1:13:38 | 1:13:43 | |
it had become overblown. | 1:13:43 | 1:13:45 | |
It was playing its own cliches, rather than inventing new cliches. | 1:13:45 | 1:13:49 | |
Black Sabbath were spending more time in America, | 1:13:54 | 1:13:57 | |
cut off from their dark British roots, suffering from | 1:13:57 | 1:14:00 | |
a creative stasis of their own, aided by old-fashioned drug and booze abuse. | 1:14:00 | 1:14:05 | |
I was the one going to the record company, giving all the lines, you know? | 1:14:05 | 1:14:10 | |
I'd go there and they'd say, "How's the album coming?" | 1:14:10 | 1:14:13 | |
"Oh, great." "How's the songwriting?" | 1:14:13 | 1:14:14 | |
"Yeah. It's really coming on." | 1:14:14 | 1:14:17 | |
"When are we going to be able to hear some stuff?" | 1:14:17 | 1:14:19 | |
"Soon." We hadn't got anything. | 1:14:19 | 1:14:21 | |
We were totally knackered, some gigs, | 1:14:21 | 1:14:23 | |
so you take a bit of the old coke to get you through the gig. | 1:14:23 | 1:14:27 | |
And eventually, you start relying on it. | 1:14:29 | 1:14:31 | |
We started getting heavily into drugs... | 1:14:31 | 1:14:34 | |
..and doing silly things on... | 1:14:37 | 1:14:39 | |
..out of our brains. | 1:14:41 | 1:14:43 | |
First of all, it was very creative, we found. | 1:14:43 | 1:14:47 | |
We could stay up and we were coming up with ideas and we would talk a lot more. | 1:14:47 | 1:14:51 | |
Certainly with coke, we'd be up all night, talking away. | 1:14:51 | 1:14:54 | |
It was fantastic, we had some great discussions. | 1:14:54 | 1:14:57 | |
We'd never remember them the next day, but we had some great discussions. | 1:14:57 | 1:15:01 | |
It did help a lot, to open each other up and to talk. | 1:15:01 | 1:15:05 | |
When we did Vol 4, and we'd done so much... We'd done more coke... | 1:15:05 | 1:15:10 | |
The cocaine bill was more than the recording bill. | 1:15:10 | 1:15:13 | |
And the recording bill was 80,000. | 1:15:13 | 1:15:16 | |
But later on, it got, with that and the drink, | 1:15:21 | 1:15:26 | |
it sort of took an ugly turn, really. | 1:15:26 | 1:15:30 | |
And the first casualty, of course, was Ozzy, you know, and Bill. | 1:15:30 | 1:15:34 | |
I came off tour, not because I didn't like Tony or I didn't like Geezer or something like that. | 1:15:36 | 1:15:41 | |
It's because I placed more priority on drinking than I did the band. | 1:15:41 | 1:15:47 | |
And that might be a shameful thing to say, but it's the truth. That's the truth. | 1:15:47 | 1:15:51 | |
And we were coming up with ideas and we'd walk in the lounge | 1:15:51 | 1:15:55 | |
and Ozzy would be asleep on the couch, | 1:15:55 | 1:15:57 | |
and you just couldn't... | 1:15:57 | 1:15:59 | |
We couldn't communicate any more. | 1:15:59 | 1:16:02 | |
Ozzy Osbourne was sacked from Black Sabbath by band-mate Bill Ward in 1979. | 1:16:04 | 1:16:10 | |
Ward left the band himself soon afterwards. | 1:16:10 | 1:16:14 | |
You know, anything to do with the original band, I can't... | 1:16:17 | 1:16:21 | |
It's like being... | 1:16:23 | 1:16:26 | |
It's like being outside of the phenomenon. | 1:16:26 | 1:16:30 | |
You know, I'm very much set in that Sabbath | 1:16:30 | 1:16:35 | |
is Ozzy Osbourne, Tony Iommi, Geezer Butler and Bill Ward. | 1:16:35 | 1:16:38 | |
So... I just couldn't do it, and I missed Ozzy so much. | 1:16:38 | 1:16:42 | |
Black Sabbath has no time. | 1:16:45 | 1:16:47 | |
It doesn't abide by any time. | 1:16:47 | 1:16:50 | |
And Ozzy knows how to sing to no time. | 1:16:50 | 1:16:56 | |
It's a tremendous skill. | 1:16:56 | 1:16:58 | |
It's really, really difficult, | 1:16:58 | 1:17:00 | |
and he's so far left or far right that he has those capabilities. | 1:17:00 | 1:17:06 | |
And singers that sing in time can't sing Black Sabbath... | 1:17:06 | 1:17:10 | |
..because Black Sabbath is not in time. | 1:17:11 | 1:17:14 | |
If the old guard now displayed signs of metal fatigue, or terminal rust, | 1:17:18 | 1:17:23 | |
a new generation of post-punk metal bands was ready to take up the crusade. | 1:17:23 | 1:17:28 | |
The press called them the "new wave of British heavy metal", | 1:17:28 | 1:17:32 | |
mercifully shortened to NWOBHM. | 1:17:32 | 1:17:34 | |
Bands like Diamond Head, Iron Maiden and Saxon had grown up in a different kind of world, | 1:17:41 | 1:17:46 | |
one of strikes, three-day working weeks and winters of discontent. | 1:17:46 | 1:17:51 | |
They emerged just as the country elected its own metal mistress, the Iron Lady herself. | 1:17:54 | 1:18:00 | |
They had to invent the Friday Rock Show thing, to play it, | 1:18:02 | 1:18:06 | |
because it couldn't be on mainstream radio. | 1:18:06 | 1:18:08 | |
I think in some respects | 1:18:08 | 1:18:10 | |
it backfired on them because it made us bigger, you know? | 1:18:10 | 1:18:13 | |
It did really make us, you know, rebels, really. | 1:18:13 | 1:18:17 | |
And it was all in this mishmash of no jobs, strikes. | 1:18:17 | 1:18:23 | |
I think it gave us a bit of will, | 1:18:24 | 1:18:28 | |
to get out of all that and succeed at something we loved doing. | 1:18:28 | 1:18:33 | |
Saxon were, if you like... | 1:18:33 | 1:18:37 | |
They were our granddaddies. | 1:18:37 | 1:18:39 | |
They'd been doing working men's clubs in Barnsley for years, and all round the North. | 1:18:39 | 1:18:44 | |
They came on, the well-oiled machine, and we were like, | 1:18:44 | 1:18:48 | |
"Wow, they have people who tune their guitars!" | 1:18:48 | 1:18:50 | |
First of two heavy metal bands on Top Of The Pops. | 1:18:50 | 1:18:53 | |
It's Saxon. | 1:18:53 | 1:18:55 | |
You know, we did Top Of The Pops | 1:18:57 | 1:18:59 | |
and Spandau Ballet and Duran Duran, they'd all be there with the red carpet. | 1:18:59 | 1:19:03 | |
We'd wander in from out of a taxi at the back. | 1:19:03 | 1:19:07 | |
We were treated more like the bad boys, it wasn't real music. | 1:19:07 | 1:19:11 | |
Because we wrote about things like motorbikes | 1:19:13 | 1:19:16 | |
and steam trains and jet planes | 1:19:16 | 1:19:19 | |
and fighter pilots being on drugs up in the sky, | 1:19:19 | 1:19:23 | |
I just think the music had to match. | 1:19:23 | 1:19:25 | |
# I leave the motor ticking over when she's back on the track... # | 1:19:25 | 1:19:29 | |
So, it had to be aggressive and fast for us. | 1:19:29 | 1:19:31 | |
# I got a 68-7 with pops on the side | 1:19:33 | 1:19:37 | |
# You know she's my new beauty And that's what I ride | 1:19:40 | 1:19:44 | |
# She's got whe-e-e-els, wheels of steel... # | 1:19:49 | 1:19:52 | |
You know, we're using the same format as the older bands. | 1:19:52 | 1:19:58 | |
Great guitar riff, melodic vocal, but we were just condensing it much faster, you know. | 1:19:58 | 1:20:03 | |
The difference between seeing Led Zeppelin at Knebworth, | 1:20:03 | 1:20:07 | |
200,000 people, you know... | 1:20:07 | 1:20:10 | |
You've got to think, when you're in your bedroom practising, | 1:20:10 | 1:20:13 | |
hoping to play a pub up the road, | 1:20:13 | 1:20:15 | |
how on earth are we ever going to get to Knebworth, you know? | 1:20:15 | 1:20:19 | |
What's that...? What have we got to write to achieve that? | 1:20:19 | 1:20:23 | |
# Am I evil? | 1:20:24 | 1:20:27 | |
# Yes, I am | 1:20:27 | 1:20:29 | |
# Am I evil? | 1:20:30 | 1:20:32 | |
# I am... # | 1:20:32 | 1:20:35 | |
It almost felt like we missed the boat, really. | 1:20:35 | 1:20:38 | |
And we kept scratching our heads thinking, "Why don't they sign Diamond Head?" | 1:20:38 | 1:20:44 | |
And we'd even get pieces written about us in Sounds, "Why has no-one signed this band?" | 1:20:44 | 1:20:49 | |
CROWD: Maiden! Maiden! Maiden! | 1:21:07 | 1:21:11 | |
Maiden! | 1:21:11 | 1:21:13 | |
Where Diamond Head failed, Iron Maiden succeeded. | 1:21:13 | 1:21:17 | |
With punk-like aggression, dressed in a full-metal jacket, | 1:21:17 | 1:21:20 | |
the power and the glory was theirs for the taking. | 1:21:20 | 1:21:23 | |
Vocalist Bruce Dickinson was already a devoted student of metallurgy, | 1:21:28 | 1:21:31 | |
a classicist, when he first saw Iron Maiden perform. | 1:21:31 | 1:21:36 | |
It was a force of nature. | 1:21:36 | 1:21:39 | |
I mean, I was just... | 1:21:39 | 1:21:41 | |
It was like, wow! This is not... | 1:21:41 | 1:21:43 | |
This is real. This is full-on. This is like being hit by a truck. | 1:21:43 | 1:21:48 | |
You know, every single song, | 1:21:48 | 1:21:51 | |
the musicianship was fantastic, guitar-playing was astounding. | 1:21:51 | 1:21:56 | |
MUSIC: Iron Maiden by Iron Maiden | 1:21:56 | 1:21:58 | |
# Won't you come into my room... # | 1:22:01 | 1:22:03 | |
And I've got to say, the only thing I looked at was the singer, and I thought, I should be there. | 1:22:03 | 1:22:07 | |
# Iron Maiden can't be fought | 1:22:07 | 1:22:09 | |
# Iron Maiden can't be sought | 1:22:09 | 1:22:12 | |
# Oh will, wherever Whenever you are... # | 1:22:12 | 1:22:16 | |
I thought, God! | 1:22:16 | 1:22:18 | |
It reminded me of an album, the first album I ever listened to from Deep Purple, Deep Purple In Rock, | 1:22:18 | 1:22:25 | |
which is a really heavy record, you know, really exciting, raw and fresh. | 1:22:25 | 1:22:29 | |
And I could hear so many little echoes of that kind of excitement. | 1:22:29 | 1:22:36 | |
It was like being plugged into the mains. | 1:22:36 | 1:22:38 | |
And I just thought, God, I could... | 1:22:38 | 1:22:41 | |
If I was singing with that band, wow! | 1:22:41 | 1:22:43 | |
Oh, well, never mind! | 1:22:43 | 1:22:45 | |
As if by black magic, Dickinson was asked to front Iron Maiden in 1981, | 1:22:47 | 1:22:52 | |
the year the band went stratospheric. | 1:22:52 | 1:22:55 | |
Finally, British heavy metal had a face, a name and a number. | 1:22:55 | 1:23:00 | |
It was branded 666. | 1:23:00 | 1:23:03 | |
The beast was back in business. | 1:23:03 | 1:23:05 | |
'Let him who hath understanding reckon the number of the beast.' | 1:23:05 | 1:23:10 | |
The Number Of The Beast, the first album I was on, | 1:23:12 | 1:23:15 | |
was number one in God knows how many countries round the world. | 1:23:15 | 1:23:19 | |
-It broke us in America. -'Its number is 666.' | 1:23:19 | 1:23:23 | |
We actually had quite a run of hit singles. | 1:23:23 | 1:23:27 | |
# Just what I saw | 1:23:27 | 1:23:29 | |
# In my own dreams | 1:23:30 | 1:23:32 | |
# Were they reflections of my warped mind staring back at me? | 1:23:33 | 1:23:38 | |
# Cos in my dreams | 1:23:39 | 1:23:41 | |
# It's always there | 1:23:42 | 1:23:44 | |
# The evil face that twists my mind | 1:23:45 | 1:23:48 | |
# And brings me to despair | 1:23:48 | 1:23:51 | |
# Ye-e-e-eah | 1:23:52 | 1:23:58 | |
# Ohhhh... # | 1:23:58 | 1:24:02 | |
It was really aggressive, in-your-face music | 1:24:02 | 1:24:06 | |
but it had great musicianship | 1:24:06 | 1:24:08 | |
and it had interesting words and stories and, you know... | 1:24:08 | 1:24:11 | |
So, it was a fantastical world that you could enter in. | 1:24:14 | 1:24:17 | |
Hey, thank you. | 1:24:17 | 1:24:19 | |
And the whole rest of the year went like that. | 1:24:19 | 1:24:22 | |
And we went round to America twice, we went to Japan, we went all round Europe. | 1:24:22 | 1:24:26 | |
It's a song called Run To The Hills. | 1:24:26 | 1:24:30 | |
'We toured our socks off.' | 1:24:30 | 1:24:32 | |
All those adolescent dreams, sat up in bed, you know, | 1:24:32 | 1:24:35 | |
drawing pictures on the back of my exercise books of big PAs | 1:24:35 | 1:24:41 | |
and drum kits on the backs of things, | 1:24:41 | 1:24:43 | |
saying, "Our back line should look like that. | 1:24:43 | 1:24:45 | |
"That would be really nasty-looking, yeah," you know, | 1:24:45 | 1:24:49 | |
had all happened. | 1:24:49 | 1:24:51 | |
My absolute wildest dreams had all happened in a year. | 1:24:53 | 1:24:58 | |
And, you know, I was a bit depressed, to be honest with you. | 1:24:58 | 1:25:02 | |
Because I thought, "What do I do now?" | 1:25:02 | 1:25:06 | |
Um... What do I do now? | 1:25:06 | 1:25:09 | |
I suppose the same again next year, but bigger. | 1:25:09 | 1:25:12 | |
Metal, under the supreme leadership of Iron Maiden, did just that. | 1:25:13 | 1:25:18 | |
It got bigger and bigger, | 1:25:18 | 1:25:19 | |
far beyond even the wildest dreams of its naive originators. | 1:25:19 | 1:25:24 | |
Even Deep Purple vocalist Ian Gillan | 1:25:27 | 1:25:30 | |
was belatedly inducted into the cult | 1:25:30 | 1:25:33 | |
when he joined Black Sabbath in 1983 | 1:25:33 | 1:25:36 | |
for one album entitled Born Again. | 1:25:36 | 1:25:39 | |
I don't know how I got in Black Sabbath, because we ended up drunk under a table. | 1:25:39 | 1:25:43 | |
I went for a meeting with Tony and Geezer at The Bear in Woodstock. | 1:25:43 | 1:25:48 | |
And I don't remember any more, and I got a call from my manager, Phil Banfield, the next morning, | 1:25:53 | 1:25:58 | |
saying, "Ian, if you're going to make career decisions, then I think you should call me first." | 1:25:58 | 1:26:03 | |
"What are you talking about?" | 1:26:03 | 1:26:05 | |
"Apparently, last night you agreed to join Black Sabbath." | 1:26:05 | 1:26:08 | |
"Well, anything else in the diary?" "No, not at the moment," so... | 1:26:08 | 1:26:12 | |
I went on tour with them. The whole thing lasted a year, I think, | 1:26:12 | 1:26:16 | |
and it was the longest party I've ever been to. It was fantastic. | 1:26:16 | 1:26:21 | |
On its rampage from the '60s to the '80s, | 1:26:24 | 1:26:27 | |
the British heavy metal beast had consumed all manner of musics, | 1:26:27 | 1:26:31 | |
seeking a life and identity of its own. | 1:26:31 | 1:26:34 | |
Despite being targeted by the press on its unfashionable journey, it had emerged triumphant, | 1:26:38 | 1:26:44 | |
a glorious band of brothers with a huge fanbase that worshipped its codes, sounds and symbols. | 1:26:44 | 1:26:51 | |
It surrendered its Britishness, went global | 1:26:54 | 1:26:57 | |
and gave birth to 1,000 subspecies, constantly renewing itself. | 1:26:57 | 1:27:02 | |
Unrepentant, unforgiving, unstoppable. | 1:27:02 | 1:27:08 | |
Heavy. | 1:27:08 | 1:27:09 | |
A lot of people that don't understand metal. | 1:27:12 | 1:27:14 | |
They stick the boot in and say, "Oh, it's rubbish, it's crap, | 1:27:14 | 1:27:16 | |
"it's meaningless, it's Neanderthal, it's got no value." | 1:27:16 | 1:27:19 | |
I kind of like that. I really do. | 1:27:19 | 1:27:23 | |
We'll always be the underdog in rock and roll, to a certain extent. | 1:27:23 | 1:27:26 | |
The big thing about heavy metal is, you know what, | 1:27:31 | 1:27:34 | |
you lot over there who don't like us and don't want to like us, fine. | 1:27:34 | 1:27:37 | |
You go on slaughtering us, because we have tens, | 1:27:37 | 1:27:40 | |
hundreds of thousands, millions of fans | 1:27:40 | 1:27:42 | |
who want us, love our music, will always be there for us. | 1:27:42 | 1:27:45 | |
And weighing it up, do we want them, do we want you? | 1:27:45 | 1:27:48 | |
We know where we going to go, we're going to go that way. | 1:27:48 | 1:27:51 | |
It's not nostalgia like most music is. | 1:27:57 | 1:28:01 | |
It stays with them. | 1:28:01 | 1:28:03 | |
It just feels like it's something that hasn't sold out. | 1:28:05 | 1:28:10 | |
More of a religion, I suppose. | 1:28:10 | 1:28:12 | |
Like soccer, football. | 1:28:12 | 1:28:15 | |
It's like, you know, you grow up supporting your team and you never... | 1:28:15 | 1:28:19 | |
It becomes part of you, till you die. | 1:28:19 | 1:28:22 |