Dave Davies: Kinkdom Come


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This programme contains some strong language.

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As a small boy I was always intrigued with the moors

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and I came across a magazine that had pictures of the moor.

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I was always fascinated,

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because it looked like another planet or the moon.

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This is the valley of the rocks.

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It's quite a mystical place.

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I first came to Exmoor when I had a camper van, ages ago.

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I made a platform on the roof so I could put a telescope up there

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and I used to go UFO spotting.

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In November the skies are extraordinary.

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The night skies, they're so rich with stars and heavens.

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The reason I moved here in the first place is because it is so desolate.

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Oh, it's invigorating, so quiet, a wonderful place to contemplate and meditate.

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# I don't want to ball about like everybody else

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# I don't want to live my life like everybody else

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# And I will say that I feel fine like everybody else

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# Cos I'm not like everybody else. #

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# Mum would shout and scream when Dad would come home drunk

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# When she asked him where he'd been

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# He said up The Clissold Arms

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# Chatting up some hussy But he didn't mean no harm

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# Oh, Fortis Green

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# Memories Of days when I was young

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# It can only be a memory

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# A time that now has gone. #

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Our family was really a matriarchal system, family.

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because my mum was the boss.

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I had loads of aunties, my big gran,

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as we used to call her - my mum's mum - had 21 kids.

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She actually they looked a bit like Queen Victoria.

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She would have come from that period.

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There was eight of us. I was the youngest.

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There were six sisters, my mum would spend all day delegating,

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"You do that, that's your job, you do this."

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My dad was like the hunter, if you like, going out to provide for his family.

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We weren't very well off financially,

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but I think that helped us.

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It helped me gravitate towards things that were more important,

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like family and the support that you get from family.

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As a kid, I was always seeking for fun.

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I used to get bored if people would get serious.

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I was quite a wild kid.

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My mum was constantly chasing me with a broomstick.

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I was a mischievous kid, but it was seeking, I was looking for things.

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I absolutely love it up here on the moor.

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Early in the morning, about this time,

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when you walk across the moor on your own,

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and find a place that feels right, I sit and just reflect on things.

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I love those old Sherlock Holmes films,

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especially The Hounds Of The Baskervilles.

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There is actually a legend about the Exmoor beast,

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which supposedly roamed this whole terrain

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out into the inner part of Exmoor.

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It was cited as a black panther. They never really found evidence.

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I like to think that it still roams the hills.

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I was the sort of kid that was fascinated by things that were unusual.

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There was a TV show on when we were kids, the first of the Quatermass.

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You watched it behind a pillow, or behind the settee you know?

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Trying to not see it, but you had to watch it.

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There was this thing on the wireless called Journey Into Space.

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# ..Hancock's Half Hour Luxembourg

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# We'd sit for hours... #

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My mum often used to finish a cup of tea

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and turn the teacup back and there would be all the tea leaves.

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She'd sit there and read, "Oh, there's a man in a black cape."

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This was quite a normal thing to see my mum and sister sitting round a Ouija board

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and put things on the glass.

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Then us kids would be hiding behind the door somewhere,

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thinking, "What the hell are they doing?"

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I can remember the first day I went to school, when I was five.

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My mum dragged me screaming up the road,

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stuck me in this room with these other poor kids.

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The teacher made me stack up these bricks.

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After about half an hour I got so fed up

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I knocked them down and I left school.

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I came home and my mum said "David, what are you doing home?"

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"I've been to school and I don't like it." And I thought that was it.

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And one day, the teacher was blathering on about God and this, that and the other.

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After God had made the trees and the flowers,

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he made animals to go deep down inside the earth, didn't he?

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-Ants, and worms.

-Worm and flies.

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I put my hand up and I said,

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"Please, miss, if God made everything, who made God?"

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"Oh, sit down David."

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I was like "Hang on!" It made me feel stupid

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cos I thought I'd said something wrong.

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Afterwards I realised it was quite an important thing to say.

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# Those great

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# So great

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# Young and innocent days. #

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I wasn't content with things as they were,

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I didn't trust teachers

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because I always felt I was being talked down to.

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I didn't like that, because at home,

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everybody seemed like we were all getting on together

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and it all kind of worked in a very natural, organic way.

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The front room at Denmark Terrace was really the party room.

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It had that funny old upright piano.

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Typical Saturday night at the Davies' on Denmark Terrace

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was always lots of music,

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lots of laughter, lots of faces.

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When I think back I always think of the Fellini films,

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leering down at you and these big faces with teeth and great noses.

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Character faces, laughter and loud and singing and drunk.

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It was like, as a little kid, sort of sitting there, soaking it all up.

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# My old man said follow the van

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# And don't dilly-dally on the way

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# Off went the cart with me old... #

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Me mum would have a few drinks.

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and she'd start singing the songs that affected her.

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Whenever my mum sang, I always used to go quiet because

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I could sense a lot of her inner pain.

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People from that generation that went through two wars,

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you didn't even say, "I love you."

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like today everybody is kissy kissy.

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In those days, they kept all their feelings to themselves.

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And like the party was a way of letting it go. "Sod it!"

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# St Theresa of the roses... #

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When my mum used to sing,

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I used to really listen, so much pain in there.

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Like, she was someone totally different,

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her persona was totally different

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from every day when, "Come on, David, it's time for school."

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Totally different person so that intrigued me.

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I learnt about love and affection from my sisters.

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I think that was important to my growth and to Ray's I think.

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That helped nurture the creative stuff going on inside us.

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Guys get together going up the pub.

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You didn't talk about things like love and beauty,

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not in those sort of fairly harsh working class families.

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We obviously saw a lot growing up,

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you know, what women are like when they got...

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I shouldn't say that. Cut!

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Like female competition for guys and you know,

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trying to make themselves look nicer than the other one.

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# Sister's in the doorway

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# Snogging with her bloke

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# Scared to put the cat out

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# In case I put him off his stroke

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# But she wouldn't be denied

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# I got a shilling as a bribe. #

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I was 11 when my sister Rene died and it was like a trigger.

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It really upset me profoundly.

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They just had a body and they put it in a box and I saw it in the ground.

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I thought, "That can't be... There must be more to life

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"than just, ending up in the ground in a box."

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I'm going to walk right across the moor to the sea

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and then I'm going to swim all the way over to Wales.

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# Big sky looked down on all the people looking up at the big sky

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# Everybody's pushing one another around. #

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That lilac and pink, blue and grey sky. Isn't that amazing or what?

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Me and Ray as kids became close with football

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because that was a very intuitive thing.

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It was almost like telepathic thing.

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Like I'd play on the left side of the field. He'd play on the right.

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We kind of knew, you could see the picture of the game where it was going

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and who was going to be where.

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And music, even more so, because

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we kind of both knew what the other was going to do.

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So many times that we'd get together just jamming around.

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In later years, like 13 or 14, I had a friend called George at school,

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who was into guitar playing.

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His dad died, his mum used to have to work,

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so all day long, after nine o'clock, his house was empty.

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I'd get ready for school, with a tie on and everything,

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and we'd pretend to walk to school and just go to George's house.

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We'd sit there all day playing guitar,

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listening to whatever we could get hold of.

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Blues was a really big thing.

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There was something in blues music

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that resonated with us as working class kids.

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It had an oppression in the music that was screaming to get out.

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# Hah! Take this hammer

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# Hah! And carry to the captain... #

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Leadbelly was singing about how he couldn't get a job and you had to be

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of a certain colour and a certain type of person

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to get a job at some railway or on the buses or whatever.

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Then we could see that happening with people...

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uncles, people in our own family.

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When Ray and I were learning guitar,

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our styles developed differently, because Ray had few guitar lessons.

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I never had guitar lessons.

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Ray's first guitar was a Spanish guitar.

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You have a rather common habit of leaning too much to the left.

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He learned how to finger pick properly.

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It was far too fussy for my taste.

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I was very into like the rock and blues stuff,

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like Eddie Cochran, Buddy Holly, Bert Weeden.

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I was never that good at copying.

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If I was trying to play Walk Don't Run...

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..it would kind of sound like it, but a few notes...

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But I thought, "Oh, just do what I want" instead.

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I learned five chords.

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So I said, "Right, mastered that."

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Ray and I's first public gig was in the pub.

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It was opposite our house The Clissold Arms.

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We got up and played Walk Don't Run, Apache.

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That vibe you get with an audience,

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I think that's when you realise there's something going on here.

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Well, the Kinks really started from school,

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when we first got together with Pete Quaife.

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# Too much monkey business

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# Too much monkey business

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# Too much monkey business for me to be involved with you... #

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Pete was really important to our musical growth.

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Because he was kind of like in the middle of me and Ray all the time.

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You could feel that there was a little bit of animosity going on.

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Ray going, "I'm going to be better than you,"

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and Dave going "I'm going to be better than you.

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Pete was a great eccentric.

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Everything was larger than life. Everything was over the top.

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He spent half his life lying.

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It was like exaggeration.

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If it's not interesting enough make it up, sort of guy.

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I loved it.

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I didn't realise until like Pete died

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what an incredible bond the three of us had,

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me, Ray and Pete, before we were even the Kinks.

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I didn't know Ray that well in a way because he had a lot of...

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problems

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and he was quiet and withdrawn.

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I just thought that's the way he is and that's all right.

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When you're brought up in a big family,

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everybody's different anyway.

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And he went to art school.

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I was more into the jazz clubs and the clubs

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and the social scene rather than into art.

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What put me off art at school is I had this horrible art teacher.

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I was just, you know, as you do, just messing around,

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and she laughed at my painting.

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I thought, "Fuck it, I ain't going to do it."

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I refused to do art then.

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The big thing for us was the El Toro coffee bar in Muswell Hill Broadway,

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where all the kids used to hang out.

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# Come on, pretty baby Let's move it and a groove it... #

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My first purple hearts came here.

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I got expelled from school when I was just 15, I think.

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Cos I was caught in the woods with my girlfriend

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with my trousers down.

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# Let me tell you baby It's called rock and roll... #

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I'm lying in bed for three weeks, thinking, "This is great."

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And then my mum says, "Come on, you've got to look for a job."

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I eventually got a job in a music shop

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in Leicester Square, where they fixed woodwind and saxophones.

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I learnt a lot about how little musicians take care of their instruments.

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We had a clarinet in one day and it was filthy.

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It stunk.

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All the pads were rotten.

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"Oh, it's Acker Bilk's clarinet!"

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Pete Quaife was working at a place called The Outfitter in Charing Cross.

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The Outfitter was a fashion mag

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and Pete was really into graphic art.

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He was a really good artist, cartoonist.

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As well as a great musician.

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# Have I the right to hold you?

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# You know I always told you... #

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Me and Pete became really close,

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we would meet at lunchtime or after work and go and seek out

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all the clothes shops in Kingley Street and Carnaby Street,

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way before it became Carnaby Street!

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# Come right back

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# I just can't bear it

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# I've got some love and I long to share it

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# Come right back I'll show my love is strong

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# Oh Oh yeah... #

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The fashion thing for me was very much like,

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if older people didn't approve, we must be doing something right.

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She looks familiar, doesn't she?

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To walk down that road with slightly long hair was frowned upon.

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I would go to a clothes shop and just get the silliest hat

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I could find and just stick it on my head.

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And just... You know.

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'No, that's not the hat, that's a device for measuring the exact confirmation of the head.'

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# Everybody's going for those kinky boots

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# Kinky boots

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# Kinky boots. #

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Women's fashions were a lot more interesting than men's.

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'Undercarriage up.'

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'Beverly, meanwhile, is in landing strip.'

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I really liked the clothes that my girlfriends wore

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and I used to try them on.

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PVC I thought was really interesting and leather.

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Mannello and Davey made me a pair of thigh-length boots.

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# Leather is so kinky

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# Come and get those kinky boots

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# Boots, kinky boots! #

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The way I was, the music and the girls

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and the self-expression and the clothes was all kind of interwoven,

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all a part of the same adventure.

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Because I was young, I couldn't get into the clubs,

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they used to always let me in the back door.

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The Piccadilly Club and Studio 51.

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I went there one night and The Stones were playing.

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# I'm going to love you night and day

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# Well, you know my love will not fade away... #

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Amazing. That was one of those moments.

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Those "Uh" moments.

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Me and Pete carried on playing together

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while Ray was away at art school.

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But, of course, we had a problem when Ray came back

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into the fold, as it were.

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We realised that if we were going to make a band,

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we needed a singer.

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None of us really knew that much about singing.

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I always thought Ray should sing

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because he could kind of mimic Buddy Holly quite good.

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And we all liked Buddy.

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As fate had it, we met two upper-class guys.

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One was a stockbroker, Granville,

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and the other one, Robert Wace.

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I don't know if he came from an aristocratic family

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or whether he faked it.

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They were about 7'2" and still are.

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They were rather sort of debonair and upper-class.

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I remember Robert going to a restaurant

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and ordering food and deliberately leaving half the food.

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Cos that's what you did.

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You didn't eat all your food. Whereas...

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Whereas we'd go and eat and eat everything on the plate.

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That was the way things were in our house.

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If we didn't eat the food quick, someone else would have it.

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Granville was looking for a band that could back up Robert

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cos Robert fancied himself as a...

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high-falutin' singer to impress all the debutants and his posh party friends.

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# The changing of the guard

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# We made our sacrifices

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# We haven't got a butler or a maid... #

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So we did a gig at the Grocer's Hall. Robert singing.

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Us lot, The Ravens, playing.

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We were doing a song called Rave On.

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Robert was going,

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POSH VOICE: # Rave on

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# Rave on and tell me Tell me.. #

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You know? In a really immaculate Saville Row suit.

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And halfway through the song,

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he hit the mic with his two front teeth

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and he broke one of his teeth.

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He runs off stage and we were still jamming away.

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We thought someone's got to sing

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and I'm sort of going like this to Ray.

0:25:000:25:02

So, Ray goes up to the mic and starts singing Rave On.

0:25:020:25:05

And it seemed so natural.

0:25:050:25:09

The band was born out of that funny gig.

0:25:090:25:12

And Robert and Granville decided to be our managers.

0:25:140:25:18

We thought, this is great.

0:25:180:25:19

Maybe we're going to hit the big-time.

0:25:190:25:22

So you've got a bunch of kids playing instruments,

0:25:250:25:28

wanting to conquer the world.

0:25:280:25:31

We didn't know what we were doing.

0:25:310:25:33

We took on two managers who didn't know what they were doing either,

0:25:330:25:38

so it's a recipe for either greatness or disaster.

0:25:380:25:41

# Gonna tell Aunt Mary about Uncle John

0:25:410:25:45

# He said he got the blues but he had a lot of fun

0:25:450:25:49

# Oh, baby

0:25:490:25:50

# Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh baby

0:25:500:25:53

# Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh baby

0:25:530:25:56

# We're having some fun tonight... #

0:25:570:25:59

We were just kids struggling.

0:26:030:26:05

Struggling for identity, trying to do something that we wanted to do

0:26:050:26:10

but didn't quite know what it was.

0:26:100:26:12

I found the Kinks by accident. I was going to a Chinese restaurant on New Year's Eve

0:26:160:26:21

and I saw all sorts of people coming in.

0:26:210:26:25

Long-haired boys...

0:26:250:26:27

amplifiers moving in.

0:26:270:26:30

And, all of a sudden, out came the music.

0:26:300:26:33

It was a group known as The Ravens,

0:26:330:26:36

a little while later known as the Kinks.

0:26:360:26:39

And from then on, I couldn't wait to get my hands on the Kinks.

0:26:390:26:43

We got a deal with Pye Records.

0:26:450:26:48

Ray and I were so excited because we were going to be on the same label as The Searchers.

0:26:480:26:55

# Sweets for my sweet Sugar for my honey... #

0:26:560:26:59

# Your first sweet kiss thrills me so... #

0:26:590:27:02

We were recording in the same studio so we thought, maybe we should do a couple of tunes like The Searchers.

0:27:020:27:08

One of our early singles before You Really Got Me was called You Still Want Me.

0:27:090:27:14

If you play it, you can imagine The Searchers in there somewhere.

0:27:140:27:20

# And you still want me

0:27:200:27:23

# And you still want me... #

0:27:230:27:25

But it flopped.

0:27:250:27:28

We had a couple of records and they flopped.

0:27:280:27:30

And...

0:27:300:27:32

BIRD SQUAWKS

0:27:320:27:34

HE LAUGHS

0:27:340:27:36

# ..And the wind is blowing cold across the moors... #

0:27:360:27:41

At that time, like '63, all the amps

0:27:410:27:45

had more of a clean tune, almost, to them.

0:27:450:27:50

The Adventures and The Shadows, they were good,

0:27:500:27:53

but I was looking for something that had a bit more balls and bite to it.

0:27:530:27:59

And a more expressive, aggressive sound.

0:27:590:28:01

I was always messing around with stuff.

0:28:010:28:04

I found this amp in a store up the road from where we lived.

0:28:040:28:09

It was about that big.

0:28:090:28:10

About that big.

0:28:100:28:12

A little green called Elpico.

0:28:120:28:16

I plugged it in and messed around with it.

0:28:160:28:18

It was too weedy. It was the same old, same old. Ching, ching, ching.

0:28:210:28:25

I got so fed up with it I got a razor blade, a single-sided Gillette,

0:28:250:28:30

got hold of the back of the amp and I sliced the comb all way round,

0:28:300:28:36

so the combs remained intact.

0:28:360:28:39

SCRATCHING

0:28:390:28:42

I didn't think for a minute it was going to work

0:28:420:28:45

but I plugged it in...

0:28:450:28:46

DISCORDANT GUITAR CHORDS

0:28:460:28:48

DOGS BARK

0:28:480:28:51

I didn't know anything about electricity.

0:28:510:28:54

I did get a terrible shock.

0:28:540:28:57

It did throw me across the room.

0:28:570:28:59

My mum came up the kitchen - "What you doing?"

0:28:590:29:05

So this sound I developed was like an emotional platform for me.

0:29:070:29:12

It felt like me.

0:29:120:29:14

It was like an extension of my own inner rage.

0:29:160:29:20

You Really Got Me was really born in the front room in Denmark Terrace.

0:29:220:29:28

Ray, one day, he came in and started playing on the piano.

0:29:280:29:33

That lovely old upright piano we had, which had all the beer over it from all parties

0:29:340:29:41

and all the piss-ups. It was always just perfectly out of tune.

0:29:410:29:46

That was another key moment, I think, when I played it on my guitar.

0:29:480:29:53

MUSIC: Opening Chords to "You Really Got Me"

0:29:530:29:57

And that was it. It was like climbing Everest.

0:29:570:30:00

The moment of clarity.

0:30:020:30:04

Before, you felt insecure, and then the event happens and you feel whole again.

0:30:040:30:09

I've been looking for that wholeness all my life,

0:30:110:30:15

whether it was in music or in relationships

0:30:150:30:20

or in the universe

0:30:220:30:24

or inside or...

0:30:240:30:26

Where is it?

0:30:260:30:28

These cliffs are about 1,100 ft, the highest cliffs in Britain.

0:30:290:30:35

In Victorian times, if you wanted to get rid of your missus,

0:30:360:30:41

you could bring her here or on holiday and push them of the cliff!

0:30:410:30:44

WOMAN SCREAMS

0:30:440:30:46

"OK, darling. Want to come for a little walk along the coast path(?)"

0:30:460:30:50

LOUD SPLASH

0:30:500:30:52

Throughout the Kinks' career, I don't think people knew what to do with the Kinks.

0:30:520:30:57

'One lump or two?'

0:30:570:30:59

We went into record You Really Got Me, and it sounded horrendous.

0:30:590:31:04

I think Ray was furious. We were all furious,

0:31:040:31:08

the fact that it was sounding so...horrible.

0:31:080:31:13

# Girl, you really got me going

0:31:130:31:19

# You got me so-o-o- I don't know what I'm doing... #

0:31:220:31:30

We wanted to re-record it, three amps, three guitars,

0:31:310:31:37

a drum kit, set up in a room.

0:31:370:31:40

That's what we wanted it to sound like.

0:31:420:31:45

So Robert paid 200 quid for a session.

0:31:450:31:49

They allocated two hours in the studio, that was it - "Forget it, next."

0:31:490:31:54

WALTZ MUSIC PLAYS

0:31:540:31:57

Next. The problems I had trying to record my guitar sound.

0:32:000:32:04

People would say, "You can't record that...noise."

0:32:070:32:10

If it hadn't been for Robert and Ray being pissed off, it might not have got made.

0:32:120:32:18

# Girl, you really got me going

0:32:180:32:22

# You got me so I don't know what I'm doing

0:32:220:32:26

# Yeah, you really got me now

0:32:260:32:29

# You got me so I can't sleep at night

0:32:290:32:31

# Yeah, you really got me now

0:32:330:32:36

# You got me so I don't know what I'm doing

0:32:360:32:39

# Oh, yeah

0:32:390:32:41

# You really got me now

0:32:410:32:43

# You got me so I can't sleep at night

0:32:430:32:45

# You really got me You really got me

0:32:450:32:48

# You really got me. #

0:32:480:32:50

The first time that I heard it on Radio, I was in Greek Street

0:32:540:32:58

and I suddenly realised, this is something really special.

0:32:580:33:02

I think we lucked out of it, timing-wise.

0:33:020:33:05

It was just perfect timing for music to turn a different corner.

0:33:050:33:11

# ..You got me so I can't sleep at night

0:33:110:33:12

# You really got me. #

0:33:120:33:14

You Really Got Me was a very sexual sound.

0:33:140:33:18

# ..Ohhh... #

0:33:200:33:23

My first girlfriend was really jealous of my guitar,

0:33:410:33:45

because I used to take it to bed with me.

0:33:450:33:47

Just wanted to make sure it was OK.

0:33:500:33:52

A lot of young guitarists ask me questions about technique,

0:33:520:33:59

which I know virtually nothing about.

0:33:590:34:02

At that age, 15, 16, it would have been just pure rage,

0:34:020:34:07

or anger or, "What the hell?!" or panic, or all those things.

0:34:070:34:11

Aghhh!

0:34:110:34:12

You know? And it's all over with, it's only eight bars.

0:34:120:34:16

So, whew...

0:34:160:34:18

Only a crazy kid would play solo like that,

0:34:180:34:22

not a well-honed session man.

0:34:220:34:26

I mean, it's just pure.

0:34:260:34:28

I think the big thing about the Kinks is that we thought we were playing R'n'B,

0:34:280:34:34

but we were playing something nobody heard of before!

0:34:340:34:37

It was all so energy driven.

0:34:370:34:40

He doesn't sit back and think about anything.

0:34:400:34:42

It's just like, "Argh!" He just goes into it.

0:34:420:34:46

And that's the way he played guitar.

0:34:460:34:48

AUDIENCE SCREAMS

0:34:480:34:51

# I need you

0:34:530:34:55

# I need you more than birds need the sky

0:34:550:34:57

# I need you

0:35:000:35:02

# It's true, my little girl

0:35:020:35:03

# That you can lift the tears from my eyes

0:35:030:35:06

# But if you ever tell me goodbye

0:35:100:35:12

# I'll break down and you'll hear me cry

0:35:120:35:15

# I need you... #

0:35:150:35:17

It's wonderful to get that sort of acclaim and attention,

0:35:170:35:22

but there was an awful lot of jealousy towards the Kinks, or towards me and Ray.

0:35:220:35:27

Two scruffy kids - how dare they write music?

0:35:270:35:31

How dare they have success?

0:35:310:35:34

Ladies and gentlemen, at this point in the programme

0:35:340:35:37

it is my pleasure to present the awards to the Kinks

0:35:370:35:42

for the runner-up position in the Best New Group section.

0:35:420:35:46

Funnily enough, the Rolling Stones won the Best Newcomer award two years running.

0:35:460:35:53

For some reason, they just did not want to give it to the Kinks.

0:35:530:35:56

There was always a thing in the background - the Kinks didn't deserve it.

0:35:560:36:03

The guitarist can't string five chords together.

0:36:030:36:06

We were never in the club, we were outsiders because of a lot of things.

0:36:060:36:12

We didn't want to play the game. "You can join this club but there's rules." We never did that.

0:36:120:36:18

I thought that red hunting jackets were a bit of a silly idea at first until I put one on.

0:36:180:36:26

I thought "Hey! Cool."

0:36:280:36:32

It didn't feel like a uniform, it felt like a statement.

0:36:320:36:36

"Wow, makes me feel good. Maybe this ain't such a bad idea."

0:36:360:36:41

Robert was wonderful with that, really.

0:36:410:36:45

And Granville.

0:36:450:36:47

Because they came from that sort of background where you would go riding in Hyde Park.

0:36:470:36:51

It was quite common, it's what you do.

0:36:510:36:54

# I am a dull and simple lad

0:36:540:36:56

# Cannot tell water from champagne

0:36:560:36:59

# And I have never met the Queen

0:36:590:37:03

# And I wish I could have all that he has got... #

0:37:030:37:06

'60s girls often had long hair with a parting in the middle, like that.

0:37:060:37:12

I used to copy my girlfriends.

0:37:120:37:14

# Standing, standing

0:37:180:37:22

# We're gonna go now

0:37:220:37:24

# Who you gonna run to? #

0:37:240:37:26

I thought it was much more elegant to part the hair in the middle.

0:37:260:37:29

# ..You're chasing all the girls They can't resist your smile... #

0:37:290:37:34

One particular girlfriend I had had very long hair. She used to back-comb it

0:37:340:37:39

so it'd sort of come up like a little dome.

0:37:390:37:43

And I kind of did my hair like that.

0:37:430:37:45

# ..Pouring out your charm... #

0:37:450:37:48

I never really took it all that seriously

0:37:480:37:50

because I wanted to explore and express myself and have a good time.

0:37:500:37:57

There was, like, a little clique of these guys.

0:37:570:38:00

There was Brian Jones, Keith Moon, Dave Davies.

0:38:000:38:05

Watch out when this lot get together.

0:38:050:38:08

I mean, it was really...

0:38:080:38:10

Wow, very wild.

0:38:100:38:11

If they thought of anything, they'd do it.

0:38:110:38:13

They wouldn't consider any kind of consequences at all,

0:38:130:38:16

so it would be quite wild, quite wild.

0:38:160:38:19

You have to remember, there were an awful lot of chicks to fuck at times.

0:38:200:38:25

I'm sorry. Hang on, I'll do it again.

0:38:250:38:28

I was 15. We had, all of a sudden, limelight and TV

0:38:280:38:32

and earning money and excitement. I just went with it.

0:38:320:38:38

I was well up for it.

0:38:380:38:40

The girls all over the place. I could do what I liked.

0:38:400:38:45

I was a young man who was very virile and I liked sex.

0:38:450:38:51

GUNSHOT

0:38:510:38:53

I had the world at my feet.

0:38:530:38:55

The world at my dick.

0:38:550:38:58

I had a close relationship with a guy called Michael Aldred.

0:39:030:39:07

He was one of the comperes on Ready Steady Go!

0:39:070:39:11

Me and Michael had a really great time,

0:39:110:39:14

because he had a wonderful sense of humour and he looked a bit like a young Dirk Bogarde.

0:39:140:39:21

So I thought he looked really cool,

0:39:210:39:24

and he thought I looked ready cool, so we became close friends.

0:39:240:39:29

But I found, after a while,

0:39:290:39:32

Michael was taking our relationship...quite seriously

0:39:320:39:38

and that's when I saw the other side of it and I thought,

0:39:380:39:42

"Shit, I can't take advantage of his feelings like this.

0:39:420:39:48

"I can't tell him I'm just exploring and having a bit of fun."

0:39:480:39:52

It was like a soap opera drama, or something.

0:39:520:39:55

I'd come home, I'd be out all day shopping,

0:39:550:39:58

I'd be in about ten pubs and come home at midnight,

0:39:580:40:01

out my brains drunk, and Michael Aldred was there, with his apron on,

0:40:010:40:07

like he was being housekeeper, housewife.

0:40:070:40:12

And the guy, you know, loved me.

0:40:120:40:16

He said..."David..."

0:40:160:40:19

I can't say it without laughing!

0:40:190:40:22

"David, your beans on toast are in the oven, and they're burned.

0:40:240:40:29

"And that's it!"

0:40:290:40:32

And I had to console him in the garden for, like, an hour.

0:40:320:40:35

I thought, "What the hell am I getting into?

0:40:350:40:39

"I can't...

0:40:390:40:40

"What am I doing?"

0:40:400:40:43

Isn't it amazing here?

0:40:500:40:51

If you look across that landscape there, you could almost be on a different planet.

0:40:530:40:58

What was a really magical thing was me and Ray when we sang together.

0:41:030:41:08

I've got quite a high voice and I used to sing octaves with Ray.

0:41:080:41:13

Despite us being different personalities,

0:41:130:41:19

our different voices complemented each other.

0:41:190:41:22

One of my favourite Kinks songs was See My Friends.

0:41:280:41:32

# See my friends

0:41:320:41:37

# See my friends

0:41:370:41:40

# Playing across the river... #

0:41:400:41:43

The droning sound that we achieved from a really cheap old guitar that was detuned.

0:41:430:41:50

It created this hypnotic drone

0:41:500:41:54

and it sounded very Eastern and sitar-like.

0:41:540:41:59

It can kind of put you into a meditative state.

0:41:590:42:03

# ..She is gone

0:42:060:42:09

# She is gone and now there's no-one there

0:42:090:42:15

# Except my friends

0:42:160:42:20

# Playing across the river

0:42:220:42:25

# She is gone... #

0:42:260:42:27

See My Friends really set a trend towards Indian music.

0:42:270:42:32

A lot of other bands started to buy the actual sitars and tablahs

0:42:320:42:38

and all the real Indian instruments

0:42:380:42:40

to try and duplicate the sound we got on a cheap, detuned guitar.

0:42:400:42:45

Sound and light is all energy,

0:43:040:43:07

and the vibrations just vibrate in different frequencies.

0:43:070:43:13

I've always loved being beside water.

0:43:150:43:17

Running water is very cleansing to your thoughts and your mind.

0:43:170:43:23

# They call me Long Tall Shorty

0:43:280:43:30

# Cos I know what love is all about... #

0:43:300:43:36

Here at the Shindig! are the fantastic Kinks!

0:43:360:43:39

# ..They call me Long Tall Shorty

0:43:390:43:43

# Cos I know what love is all about

0:43:440:43:47

# Well, I can tell you where the lights go

0:43:510:43:55

# Ooh, when they go out... #

0:43:550:43:59

When we first went to America, the audience were saying, "Fabulous,"

0:44:020:44:06

audiences, but there was an older generation of Americans

0:44:060:44:10

that were very loath to get out of the '50s,

0:44:100:44:14

that really thought we were a threat, or something.

0:44:140:44:17

Because our music was a lot more aggressive and, I like to think, more sexual than the Beatles.

0:44:170:44:24

We were kind of a bit scruffy, a little bit wilder.

0:44:240:44:28

I had shoulder-length hair and, especially in Middle America or the South,

0:44:280:44:34

you'd get those slurs from Red Necks.

0:44:340:44:39

"Are you a boy or a girl?"

0:44:390:44:41

I'm both, actually.

0:44:430:44:45

And having a name like the Kinks doesn't really help.

0:44:450:44:51

But I loved it. I thrived on it, really, because I was a cheeky kid.

0:44:510:44:55

It seemed fun that people thought I was pissing them off.

0:44:550:44:59

# I'm a lover not a fighter

0:44:590:45:02

# Well, I'm a lover not a fighter

0:45:040:45:06

# Well, I'm a lover not a fighter

0:45:070:45:10

# And, man, I'm built for speed. #

0:45:100:45:12

On those shows like Shindig!, that we did in the States,

0:45:130:45:17

they were really heady times and it was very exciting.

0:45:170:45:20

I was 15, 16 years old,

0:45:200:45:23

playing in front of all these girls

0:45:230:45:26

and who knows how many millions of people were watching?

0:45:260:45:29

And I kind of just used to explode with excitement when I played my guitar.

0:45:290:45:35

You had Jimi Hendrix at that end, Noel Coward at the other end.

0:45:420:45:47

There was always me in the middle, rocking it back and forwards, you know?

0:45:470:45:51

I just thought it was being exciting and being expressive,

0:45:530:45:57

but I think they thought it was a bit sexual, maybe.

0:45:570:46:01

Like, "Maybe we shouldn't have this..."

0:46:010:46:05

We didn't realise how powerful the unions were.

0:46:050:46:08

Like, if they didn't like you, that was it. "You're out, mate."

0:46:080:46:13

Being banned from America was a big help for us.

0:46:190:46:22

We had to re-address the whole situation.

0:46:220:46:26

This could be a career,

0:46:260:46:29

and I should start learning how to play guitar!

0:46:290:46:31

Learn some scales and stuff, which is a real job.

0:46:310:46:36

There was a big shift in our music, moving away from those aggressive early, riff-driven songs,

0:46:360:46:43

and coming back home to our roots, Max Miller and stuff like that.

0:46:430:46:49

Stuff that our parents listened to.

0:46:490:46:52

# Friday evenings People get together

0:46:520:46:58

# Hiding from the weather

0:46:580:47:03

# Tea

0:47:030:47:04

# And toasted buttered currant buns

0:47:040:47:08

# How to compensate for lack of sun

0:47:080:47:12

# Because the summer's all gone

0:47:120:47:15

# La, la, la, la, la

0:47:150:47:19

# Oh, my poor rheumatic back

0:47:190:47:23

# Yes, yes, yes It's my autumn almanac... #

0:47:230:47:28

My mum and dad used to love to come to our shows.

0:47:280:47:30

We'd come off a big tour and go up the pub with my dad and his mates, play shove ha'penny.

0:47:300:47:36

You know? Darts and a pint.

0:47:360:47:39

# Mr Pleasant

0:47:390:47:41

# How is Mrs Pleasant?

0:47:420:47:45

# I hope the world is treating you right

0:47:460:47:51

# And your head's in the air

0:47:510:47:54

# And you're feeling so proud

0:47:540:47:56

# Because you're such a success

0:47:560:47:59

# And the whole wide world is on your side

0:47:590:48:04

# Hey, hey

0:48:040:48:05

# How are you today?

0:48:070:48:11

How's your father? How's your mother?

0:48:120:48:14

# How's your sister? How's your brother?

0:48:140:48:16

# How's your brand-new limousine? 24-inch TV screen?

0:48:160:48:22

# Is you like prosperity more than you like poverty?

0:48:220:48:27

# Life is easier now... #

0:48:270:48:30

A lot of the material was so heavily drawn from our background as kids.

0:48:330:48:38

A lot of the characters in early Kinks music was based on our own family.

0:48:380:48:45

Sometimes we teased Ray about some of the songs that he wrote.

0:48:450:48:50

It was really written by my family.

0:48:500:48:53

# Well, I said goodbye to Rosie Rooke this morning

0:48:530:48:59

# I'm going to miss her bloodshot, alcoholic eyes... #

0:48:590:49:05

He was writing about what I did a lot of the time, I'm sure of it.

0:49:060:49:11

Like Dandy.

0:49:110:49:13

I did the parting, and Ray wrote about it.

0:49:130:49:17

He was Oscar, and I was Wilde.

0:49:170:49:21

Ray would often pick the phone up and say, "Dave, I've got an idea, da-da-da-da," you know?

0:49:210:49:26

I'd come round and we'd sit round a piano and he'd play me...

0:49:260:49:31

..a core riff.

0:49:350:49:37

You could always tell when something was going to really work.

0:49:370:49:43

It's a collaborative thing.

0:49:430:49:45

We trigger each other. "Yeah, that's really good. Yeah, we should do that."

0:49:450:49:51

It goes backwards and forwards.

0:49:510:49:53

# In the summertime... #

0:49:530:49:56

I wanted to be supportive, helping each other, helping the family out,

0:49:560:50:00

and then Ray would come back a day or two later with the complete thing finished.

0:50:000:50:05

# ..Everybody's looking for the sun

0:50:050:50:12

# People strain their eyes to see

0:50:140:50:17

# But I see you and you see me

0:50:170:50:21

# And ain't that wonder? #

0:50:210:50:24

Ray can write a song about anything,

0:50:250:50:28

where I can't. It's got to be an emotion first.

0:50:280:50:32

# I've been crying all the winter

0:50:410:50:43

# I've been waiting for some good to come my way

0:50:460:50:49

# But I'll wait till the summer comes along

0:50:490:50:55

# Lord, have I done so much wrong?

0:50:550:50:59

When you're sitting down making a song, working on it,

0:50:590:51:02

are you trying to do anything other than enlarge your bank balance?

0:51:020:51:06

Um... Oh, definitely, you know.

0:51:060:51:09

-It's not just strictly a commercial...

-Oh, no.

-..venture?

0:51:090:51:14

Actually, if it was, I wouldn't be able to do it.

0:51:140:51:17

-If I thought of it that way I wouldn't be able to do it.

-How do you think of it?

0:51:170:51:21

It's funny because, you're not going to believe me, but I don't think of it when I do it.

0:51:210:51:26

You sort of have a few drinks, you sit down, and you think of something

0:51:260:51:30

that somebody's said or a television programme you saw, say, somebody in Vietnam getting shot or something,

0:51:300:51:37

and it, sort of, forms a pattern in your brain. Like a dream.

0:51:370:51:42

Like playing, I suppose you can compare it to dreaming, as well.

0:51:420:51:46

Lots of things compressed

0:51:460:51:49

and it explodes.

0:51:490:51:50

# You don't have to look at me

0:51:590:52:01

# You don't have to smile at me

0:52:010:52:03

# You just got to love me till the sun shines... #

0:52:030:52:08

I started to find, as the years get to about 67, 68,

0:52:090:52:14

I used to go in the studio and my hand ached,

0:52:140:52:17

from just drinking and pill-popping...

0:52:170:52:22

...just burning the candle at both ends.

0:52:240:52:28

One day, you wake up and you think,

0:52:290:52:32

"What's the point?

0:52:320:52:34

"What am I doing?"

0:52:340:52:36

Death Of A Clown, I wrote in that same front room at the house.

0:52:460:52:54

The vibes in that room always felt happy to me.

0:52:540:52:57

My sister's got married and they came to the reception in that room,

0:52:570:53:02

and the family gatherings were happy.

0:53:020:53:04

It was like a focus of energy.

0:53:040:53:08

# My make up is dry

0:53:080:53:11

# And it clags round my chin

0:53:110:53:14

# I'm drowning my sorrows in whisky and gin

0:53:140:53:20

# The lion tamer's whip doesn't crack any more

0:53:220:53:27

# The lions, they won't bite and the tigers won't roar

0:53:270:53:33

# La la-la la la la-la la

0:53:350:53:42

# So let's go and drink to the death of a clown... #

0:53:420:53:48

The Death Of A Clown thing just came out of what I hit on the piano,

0:53:500:53:55

because I was in that mood of not being happy with

0:53:550:53:59

the situation in my life and feeling like it should be something else.

0:53:590:54:04

Those yearning feelings do stimulate you to want to write or play something.

0:54:040:54:09

So, I expressed it in a song.

0:54:090:54:12

# Let's all drink to the death of a clown.... #

0:54:140:54:19

It's about the solution.

0:54:210:54:23

I realised that going out, drink and drugs and girls -

0:54:230:54:27

beautiful girls, as well, I might add - the lifestyle with it

0:54:270:54:32

was just like the analogy within a clown -

0:54:320:54:36

trying to make people laugh and in the end, just crying.

0:54:360:54:39

# So won't someone help me to break up this crown

0:54:400:54:46

Let's all drink to the death of a clown... #

0:54:460:54:51

Everybody wanted me to go solo.

0:54:540:54:56

Robert and Grenville, especially, wanted me to go on tour.

0:54:560:55:00

They would do, with the money and stuff.

0:55:000:55:02

They kept saying I could be a huge success.

0:55:020:55:05

# Oh, Susannah's bedraggled

0:55:060:55:08

# But she still wears the locket round her neck

0:55:080:55:11

# She's got a picture on a table of a man who is young and able

0:55:150:55:20

# Oh, Susannah's gonna cry

0:55:230:55:26

# Oh, Susannah's still alive

0:55:280:55:31

# Whisky or gin, that's all right

0:55:320:55:36

# There's nothing in her bed at night

0:55:360:55:40

# She sleeps with the covers down hoping that somebody gets in

0:55:400:55:44

# It doesn't matter what she does She knows that she can't win

0:55:440:55:49

# Oh, Susannah's gonna cry... #

0:55:490:55:52

I did put two or three solo singles out, without the Kinks, but I thought, "No, we're a family.

0:55:550:56:03

"Let's continue and see where it takes us."

0:56:030:56:06

Let's hear it for Mr Death Of A Clown, Dave Davies.

0:56:060:56:09

APPLAUSE

0:56:090:56:13

Now, this thing about the rivalry between me and Ray,

0:56:130:56:18

I didn't know anything about, until I was about 18, 19, 20 years old.

0:56:180:56:24

Because it never struck me that there was any rivalry or jealousy.

0:56:240:56:30

So it came as a big surprise to me when people started to talk about it.

0:56:300:56:34

There's two mountain goats sparring up there.

0:56:340:56:41

# Sylvilla looked into her mirror

0:56:460:56:49

# Percilla looked into the washing machine

0:56:490:56:53

# And the drudgery of being wed

0:56:530:56:57

# She was so jealous of her sister

0:56:570:57:01

# And her liberty and her smart young friends

0:57:010:57:05

# She was so jealous of her sister... #

0:57:080:57:11

I could say that I was a victim of a very abusive relationship,

0:57:110:57:18

but that's not really what we want to do, is it? No.

0:57:180:57:22

If we make a list of all the bad things that happen to us

0:57:220:57:26

and moan about them, it's really unproductive.

0:57:260:57:31

Even the people we don't like, or at times think we don't like, are there for a reason,

0:57:310:57:38

for our own personal growth.

0:57:380:57:40

The blame thing is unhelpful.

0:57:400:57:44

If there hadn't been bad times, I might not have got interested in spiritual things.

0:57:440:57:52

I'm thankful to have Ray as a brother, even though he's an arsehole,

0:57:530:57:58

because it made me look at life differently.

0:57:580:58:02

I thought, "He's my brother, I love him.

0:58:020:58:04

"He does something to me that I don't like, what do I do?

0:58:040:58:07

"Hit him over the head? Shoot him? What's the point of that?"

0:58:070:58:12

I can't change him.

0:58:120:58:14

# Picture yourself when you're getting old

0:58:200:58:24

# Sat by the fireside, a-pondering on

0:58:270:58:32

# Picture book Pictures of your mama

0:58:360:58:39

# Taken by your papa a long time ago

0:58:390:58:42

# Picture book of people with each other

0:58:420:58:47

# To prove they loved each other a long time ago... #

0:58:470:58:51

After three years, when we could go back to the States again,

0:58:560:59:01

it was a totally, totally different mood.

0:59:010:59:04

It was like starting all over again.

0:59:040:59:07

Instead of all the little teeny girls screaming,

0:59:070:59:10

trying to rip your clothes off, there were all these grey-faced,

0:59:100:59:14

bearded men - not women.

0:59:140:59:18

Really dour, kind of down beaten, lying on the floor,

0:59:180:59:24

"Yeah, sure."

0:59:240:59:26

The bands were heavier and serious and darker.

0:59:260:59:31

It was a very dark period.

0:59:310:59:33

# I am the god of hellfire, and I bring you...

0:59:330:59:37

# Fire! I'll take you to burn... #

0:59:370:59:41

Rock and roll had a looming sort of feeling about it.

0:59:440:59:48

# Burn, burn, burn, burn!

0:59:480:59:49

# Ah ha ha ha ha! Ah ha ha ha ha... #

0:59:490:59:55

America went into that Vietnam zone,

0:59:571:00:01

and the mood and life

1:00:011:00:03

became very, very serious, all of a sudden.

1:00:031:00:07

These young people, instead of them partying and smoking dope,

1:00:071:00:11

wearing flowers in their hair, suddenly realised they were being called up to kill and get killed.

1:00:111:00:17

# Land of hope and Gloria

1:00:171:00:21

# Land of my Victoria

1:00:211:00:24

# Land of hope and Gloria

1:00:241:00:27

# Land of my Victoria... #

1:00:271:00:32

It was hard, because the support structure started to collapse,

1:00:321:00:37

with our management leaving.

1:00:371:00:40

Pip leaving.

1:00:441:00:46

It was kind of like in no-man's land.

1:00:471:00:51

We were so out of fashion, out of touch with what people were going through.

1:00:511:00:56

Fortunately, there was a cult thing about the Kinks and it was weird.

1:00:561:01:02

The Americans seemed to pick up on that, where the English didn't.

1:01:021:01:06

JIMI HENDRIX GUITAR RIFF

1:01:061:01:10

The only time I spoke with Jimi Hendrix was when

1:01:121:01:14

we sat next to each other on a plane going to Sweden, for some TV thing.

1:01:141:01:20

He didn't talk a lot, but he said he thought

1:01:201:01:24

You Really Got Me, the guitar sound was a landmark guitar sound.

1:01:241:01:30

I always thought that, coming from him, that was,

1:01:301:01:34

you know, quite a compliment.

1:01:341:01:37

Mitch Mitchell, Jimi's drummer, lived for a while in my house that I rented in Muswell Hill.

1:01:491:01:55

We went away on tour and he used to keep pigeons

1:01:551:02:00

under the bed.

1:02:001:02:02

Weird. When we got back, threw him out.

1:02:031:02:07

On the back of a so-called flop,

1:02:131:02:16

which I always regard as one of our best albums -

1:02:161:02:20

Arthur - we started to build up again.

1:02:201:02:23

I was thinking, "I don't think it's done yet, because people want this

1:02:231:02:28

"and if people want this, we must be doing something right."

1:02:281:02:31

# Well, sit by the fire in your Shangri-La... #

1:02:311:02:35

And I knew that Ray was going through an immensely creative,

1:02:371:02:43

as well as a destructive, period.

1:02:431:02:46

So I thought, "We've just got to ride it out."

1:02:461:02:49

I had a really, really bad time in 1973.

1:02:501:02:54

It was obviously the drugs and stuff as well, but the sort of lifestyle.

1:02:541:03:00

You think, "What the hell am I doing flying on a plane,

1:03:001:03:05

"across the other side of the world? Horrible and I feel tired.

1:03:051:03:10

"Am I supposed to be a rock star? Is that what I'm supposed to do?"

1:03:131:03:19

We were playing a beer festival.

1:03:191:03:23

It was a beer-sponsored thing in New York.

1:03:231:03:28

I felt I was in a bad way. I could play, I could get by,

1:03:281:03:32

go back to the hotel room and then it started - hearing voices.

1:03:321:03:38

I'm thinking, "This is what mad people do."

1:03:381:03:41

I heard stories about this woman walking down the street talking to imaginary people.

1:03:411:03:48

I'd think, "Hey, fucking, hey."

1:03:481:03:51

I haven't really spoken in depth about it to many people

1:03:541:03:58

because it's being in the land of the insane, it's not a very nice place.

1:03:581:04:05

I was sitting in a hotel room, the whole of the day on Eighth Avenue,

1:04:051:04:11

looking out

1:04:111:04:12

and hearing these voices saying, "Jump out of the window."

1:04:121:04:16

It's like me saying to you, "Julian, come on, jump, jump.

1:04:161:04:20

"Go on, jump."

1:04:201:04:22

And there's nobody there.

1:04:221:04:24

My senses all kind of...

1:04:251:04:28

All over the place.

1:04:281:04:29

I'm trying to function, get up and sleep and trying to get up,

1:04:291:04:36

tune my guitar and I suddenly said, "Please let's get back to England, let's get back home,

1:04:361:04:42

"see what the fuck's going on here."

1:04:421:04:45

And it was awful.

1:04:451:04:47

I called it a psychic death.

1:04:491:04:51

I felt that there must be ways to combat this, and Ray did,

1:04:551:05:00

trapped in his own hell, his own world, and I was trapped in mine.

1:05:001:05:06

We were brothers living only a few miles apart and we couldn't connect in that way.

1:05:061:05:12

I decided the only way that I was going to get out of this hell,

1:05:121:05:17

my own little private hell, was to work on it myself.

1:05:171:05:23

The mind's so easily persuaded in so many different directions.

1:05:251:05:31

Use the imagination to make it work for us, instead of against us.

1:05:331:05:39

It's restructuring your thought process - reprogramming.

1:05:391:05:43

When you feel, "I can't get out of bed, can't get out of bed, I'm too depressed."

1:05:431:05:49

It just drags you down and down and down,

1:05:491:05:54

into an abyss that some people can't get out of.

1:05:541:05:57

And there's the ruins of an old monastery.

1:06:061:06:10

I don't know if I can get up there, but quite an exceptional place.

1:06:111:06:16

I got interested in spiritualism.

1:06:241:06:26

I knew a bit about astrology and a bit about yoga and I thought,

1:06:261:06:31

"I'll get into a regime where I can do my yoga every day and do some meditation."

1:06:311:06:36

The yogis talk about working on the energy of the mind and knock it into shape, for Christ's sake.

1:06:361:06:43

I became more introvert.

1:06:431:06:46

From being, like,

1:06:461:06:49

out there, I was more like this.

1:06:491:06:51

Sensitivity has a price and I think, all that money does,

1:06:551:07:00

it creates a moat around your life.

1:07:001:07:04

You might be sensitive, but you are protected from experience.

1:07:071:07:11

Although we were written off at this point,

1:07:111:07:14

the Kinks did succeed in coming back to conquer America again.

1:07:141:07:19

# And it's back where we started

1:07:211:07:23

-# Here we go round again

-Here we go round again

1:07:231:07:27

# Back where you started Do it again, do it again... #

1:07:271:07:33

There's no such thing as failing at anything.

1:07:441:07:47

You don't fail, you have an experience.

1:07:471:07:51

It is a means to progress further.

1:07:511:07:54

I think Kinks' music is music of hope

1:08:011:08:07

and humour and reality.

1:08:071:08:10

People do fuck up, they do mess up, they trip up.

1:08:151:08:19

Martin, my eldest son, and I decided it would be cool

1:08:261:08:33

if we made a film about my mystical journey.

1:08:331:08:39

An introduction to so many aspects of magic, the golden dawn, occultism,

1:08:461:08:54

spiritualism and all the allied areas that you can investigate.

1:08:541:09:00

It has been a main thread throughout my life and career through the Kinks, anyway.

1:09:001:09:06

It isn't like something I just woke up one day and thought, "Oh, that's interesting."

1:09:061:09:11

It's tying to understand mystical elements in our lives that are very real.

1:09:111:09:18

HE SINGS "JERUSALEM": # And did those feet in ancient times

1:09:181:09:24

# Walk upon England's mountain green?.. #

1:09:241:09:32

Sorry!

1:09:321:09:34

It is better for us to control our own minds than

1:09:341:09:39

someone else do it for us, like some organised religion might do.

1:09:391:09:45

The main battle we all have is about inside, with ourselves.

1:09:451:09:52

I think, in the '70s, when I went through that bad time, I think

1:09:521:09:57

when I went within, wondering if I could play any more,

1:09:571:10:02

kind of motivated me to think maybe I could use this energy for some sort of healing.

1:10:021:10:08

When you're playing music,

1:10:091:10:11

on the big stage with thousands and thousands of people, there is a helluva lot of energy flowing around

1:10:111:10:19

that auditorium that most people don't even know about.

1:10:191:10:23

It's what's entertainment is.

1:10:231:10:25

It's about bringing people up and out of their isolation,

1:10:251:10:33

that they can join the party.

1:10:331:10:35

The Aschere Project is something I put together with my son Russell,

1:10:541:10:58

who is a very accomplished musician in his own right.

1:10:581:11:02

He sent me some ideas on MP3s. I went for a drive over Exmoor

1:11:021:11:08

and walked across the sea and I listened to this music and thought,

1:11:081:11:13

"I can see this story emerging."

1:11:131:11:16

# When you sleep I am there with you

1:11:181:11:26

# When you wake, I will protect you

1:11:271:11:34

# When you dream I will show you... #

1:11:361:11:43

It's a love story between a man and a woman that are separated by time and space.

1:11:441:11:52

The night skies in Exmoor, with the stars, inspired the thought

1:11:521:11:56

of separation, the girls, one side of the universe, and the guys, stuck on earth.

1:11:561:12:02

They devise a mystical way to get back together.

1:12:021:12:06

If it gets a bit too way out, it's still just about love and lovers.

1:12:091:12:15

It's also the underlying thread in the album is the love between a father and a son working together.

1:12:211:12:27

When you are actually immersed in a creative thing with your own son,

1:12:271:12:34

it is like joy.

1:12:341:12:37

All these ideas I get, if I can get them from here or here into a bit of

1:12:411:12:47

music and put some words with it, that is me functioning at my best.

1:12:471:12:53

Ray and I have talked about doing new Kinks recordings, but it doesn't feel right to me.

1:12:591:13:05

It's like trying to repaint a Rembrandt or something.

1:13:051:13:09

Those wonderful pieces of music weren't done like that.

1:13:091:13:13

They sort of appeared through Ray's consciousness

1:13:131:13:18

and my energy and the other people around us.

1:13:181:13:23

It's the imperfections that helped develop us as a spiritual being.

1:13:231:13:29

Getting back to that thing I was talking about earlier,

1:13:291:13:32

about finding those moments of clarity or moments of oneness.

1:13:321:13:39

Maybe a second, a split second.

1:13:391:13:41

-# Waterloo sunset's fine

-Waterloo sunset's fine... #

1:13:411:13:48

So many times me and Ray have been on stage

1:13:511:13:53

and something will happen and we'll look at each other and we'll know the whole atmosphere has changed.

1:13:531:14:00

In a way, Ray and I were magicians, without realising it,

1:14:001:14:04

purely because of that love bond.

1:14:041:14:07

So, playing something together, it automatically had that love vibration.

1:14:071:14:14

Maybe it is good that you get two people that think totally different.

1:14:141:14:19

Because it is something opposite in front of us,

1:14:191:14:22

it helps us try and figure out how we fit into the whole thing.

1:14:221:14:27

# Waterloo sunset's fine. #

1:14:281:14:32

APPLAUSE

1:14:371:14:39

I once read somewhere that Ray said, if he had to do it all over again, he'd change every single thing.

1:14:391:14:46

That's so amazingly funny or curious because I wouldn't change any of it.

1:14:461:14:53

# Where are you going to? I don't mind

1:15:011:15:05

# I have killed my world and I have killed my time

1:15:071:15:12

# So where do I go? What will I see?

1:15:131:15:17

# I see many people coming after me

1:15:171:15:24

# So where you going to? I don't mind

1:15:261:15:31

# And if I lived too long I'm afraid I'll die

1:15:311:15:37

# To peace we find Tell you what I'll do

1:15:371:15:43

# Everything I own I will share with you

1:15:431:15:47

# Strangers on this road, we are one

1:15:491:15:53

# We are not two, we are one

1:15:551:15:59

# Strangers, on this road, we are one

1:16:001:16:05

# We are not two, we are one

1:16:071:16:10

# I'm not like everybody else

1:16:171:16:22

# I'm not like everybody else. #

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