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MUSIC: "Arnold Layne" by Pink Floyd | 0:00:02 | 0:00:06 | |
1967. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:08 | |
The Summer Of Love. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:10 | |
The Vietnam War. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:11 | |
The Beatles released Sgt Pepper. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:14 | |
In London, Jimi Hendrix | 0:00:14 | 0:00:17 | |
sets fire to his guitar, | 0:00:17 | 0:00:19 | |
and The Rolling Stones are jailed for drugs possession. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:22 | |
NEWSREEL: Police said when they entered the house, | 0:00:22 | 0:00:24 | |
there was a sweet smell of incense about. | 0:00:24 | 0:00:27 | |
And in the charts at number 17, | 0:00:27 | 0:00:29 | |
with her biggest-selling album to date... | 0:00:29 | 0:00:31 | |
..the one and only Mrs Mills. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:36 | |
MUSIC: "Mrs Mills Medley" | 0:00:36 | 0:00:38 | |
She reminds me of a school dinner lady. | 0:01:05 | 0:01:08 | |
She looks like she could, when she's not playing the piano, | 0:01:08 | 0:01:10 | |
be dishing out really lumpy mash to kids... | 0:01:10 | 0:01:13 | |
but with a big smile on her face. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:16 | |
Suddenly, this very ordinary-looking woman, with a lovely smile, | 0:01:19 | 0:01:24 | |
who was normally... you know, looked like someone's aunt... | 0:01:24 | 0:01:27 | |
had a record deal with EMI, | 0:01:27 | 0:01:30 | |
playing in the same studio as The Beatles and Rolling Stones, | 0:01:30 | 0:01:33 | |
it was just absolutely bizarre. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:35 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:01:35 | 0:01:37 | |
She was exceptional. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:40 | |
And it was that talent | 0:01:40 | 0:01:43 | |
that took her to selling millions of records worldwide. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:47 | |
"Famous"! Go on with you. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:50 | |
A lot of people say, "Who?" which I find annoying, | 0:01:50 | 0:01:53 | |
but I just say she was a variety artist and a brilliant pianist, | 0:01:53 | 0:01:56 | |
and if they ever get time to listen, they ought to, basically... | 0:01:56 | 0:01:59 | |
because they don't know what they're missing. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:01 | |
"SHAVE AND A HAIRCUT" ENDING | 0:02:01 | 0:02:05 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:02:05 | 0:02:06 | |
This rather plump, cuddly, loveable, | 0:02:06 | 0:02:08 | |
auntie sort of figure, | 0:02:08 | 0:02:12 | |
that your mum and dad liked, but maybe you thought | 0:02:12 | 0:02:15 | |
was a little bit kitsch and a little bit... | 0:02:15 | 0:02:17 | |
not exactly hip. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:19 | |
Good Lord, here she is now! | 0:02:19 | 0:02:21 | |
Well...! | 0:02:21 | 0:02:22 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:02:22 | 0:02:24 | |
Today, Mrs Mills has been all but written out of popular music history. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:29 | |
But, with over 40 albums to her name, | 0:02:29 | 0:02:31 | |
in the 1960s, her sing-along piano playing | 0:02:31 | 0:02:33 | |
and bubbly personality | 0:02:33 | 0:02:35 | |
made her a firm family favourite. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:37 | |
Hello, Mr Preview! | 0:02:37 | 0:02:40 | |
That's not the Queen - that's Mrs Mills! | 0:02:40 | 0:02:42 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:02:42 | 0:02:43 | |
BOTH: She's the queen of the ivories! | 0:02:43 | 0:02:45 | |
It's interesting to look at music history, | 0:02:45 | 0:02:48 | |
because the books say one thing and yet, let's look at the charts, | 0:02:48 | 0:02:51 | |
and let's see how eclectic the charts are. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:54 | |
You look at a Top 40 in 1964, | 0:02:54 | 0:02:56 | |
and you can have anyone from... | 0:02:56 | 0:02:58 | |
The Beatles... | 0:02:58 | 0:03:02 | |
to Frankie Vaughan to, let's say... | 0:03:02 | 0:03:05 | |
Ken Dodd. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:08 | |
The narrative is very straightforward, and it goes, | 0:03:08 | 0:03:10 | |
"The Beatles came along, | 0:03:10 | 0:03:12 | |
"biggest band ever, everybody loved them..." | 0:03:12 | 0:03:14 | |
MUSIC: "Twist And Shout" by The Beatles | 0:03:14 | 0:03:17 | |
"Then everybody went psychedelic..." | 0:03:17 | 0:03:20 | |
MUSIC: "I Know What I Like" by Genesis | 0:03:20 | 0:03:23 | |
"And then there was glam rock..." | 0:03:23 | 0:03:26 | |
MUSIC: "Hell Raiser" by Sweet | 0:03:26 | 0:03:29 | |
"And prog rock..." | 0:03:29 | 0:03:30 | |
MUSIC: "Yours Is No Disgrace" by Yes | 0:03:30 | 0:03:32 | |
"And then there was punk..." | 0:03:32 | 0:03:34 | |
MUSIC: "New Rose" by The Damned | 0:03:34 | 0:03:35 | |
And anything that doesn't fit with that is left out. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:40 | |
Self-evidently, Mrs Mills doesn't fit with that. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:44 | |
So, the people that are writing history... | 0:03:44 | 0:03:48 | |
I guess are not Mrs Mills fans. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:51 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:03:51 | 0:03:52 | |
MUSIC: "Ain't That A Grand And Glorious Feeling" by Mrs Mills | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
One thing you have to consider is, just when Mrs Mills was becoming popular, | 0:04:03 | 0:04:07 | |
there was a fear about a lot of community... | 0:04:07 | 0:04:12 | |
in fact, a moral panic over mods and rockers, | 0:04:12 | 0:04:16 | |
gangs of youths fighting each other. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:18 | |
No-one could understand why this was happening, | 0:04:18 | 0:04:21 | |
why such animosity was felt because someone rode a scooter rather than a motorbike, | 0:04:21 | 0:04:26 | |
all these kind of things. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:28 | |
So, Mrs Mills represented... | 0:04:28 | 0:04:31 | |
a value that had been lost | 0:04:32 | 0:04:35 | |
in the eyes of some, | 0:04:35 | 0:04:37 | |
and that perhaps, if only we could just get around the piano again, | 0:04:37 | 0:04:42 | |
sing songs together, | 0:04:42 | 0:04:43 | |
the young, the old, whatever your ethnicity is, | 0:04:43 | 0:04:47 | |
whatever your class is, | 0:04:47 | 0:04:49 | |
sing these songs. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:51 | |
and you will feel that you have bonded with your friends and neighbours. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:55 | |
And then you won't go and cause... | 0:04:55 | 0:04:57 | |
riots in Margate. | 0:04:57 | 0:04:59 | |
MUSIC: "Rudolph The Red-Nosed Reindeer" by Mrs Mills | 0:04:59 | 0:05:01 | |
MUSIC: "My Generation" by The Who | 0:05:01 | 0:05:03 | |
# People try to put us down | 0:05:05 | 0:05:09 | |
# Talkin' 'bout my generation | 0:05:09 | 0:05:11 | |
# Just because we get around | 0:05:11 | 0:05:14 | |
# Talkin' 'bout my generation | 0:05:14 | 0:05:16 | |
# Things they do look awful cold | 0:05:16 | 0:05:19 | |
# Talkin' 'bout my generation | 0:05:19 | 0:05:21 | |
# I hope I die before I get old... # | 0:05:21 | 0:05:24 | |
You then have a dichotomy. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:26 | |
Popular music goes off rather in The Beatles and The Rolling Stones, | 0:05:26 | 0:05:29 | |
and all the Liverpool singers that come after that. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:31 | |
But the more middle-of-the-road popular music still carries on, | 0:05:31 | 0:05:36 | |
and people like Mrs Mills - she was still going in the 1970s, of course. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:40 | |
For most teenagers, | 0:05:40 | 0:05:42 | |
Mrs Mills had an appeal | 0:05:42 | 0:05:44 | |
second only to, say, the appeal of ABBA to punk rockers. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:49 | |
It was regarded as the kind of music... | 0:05:49 | 0:05:51 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:05:51 | 0:05:53 | |
..That their music had rebelled against. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:56 | |
You certainly wouldn't be seen dead walking down the street | 0:05:56 | 0:05:59 | |
with a Mrs Mills album cover. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:00 | |
Of course, in those days, that was the whole thing. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:04 | |
On the Saturday, you went to a record store or record shop, | 0:06:04 | 0:06:07 | |
and you bought an album, | 0:06:07 | 0:06:08 | |
and you walked home with it, down the High Street with it tucked under your arm. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:11 | |
And those were your sounds, man, for the weekend. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
People would say, "Oh, look, he's got the new Stones album, | 0:06:14 | 0:06:17 | |
"he's got the new so-and-so album." | 0:06:17 | 0:06:19 | |
That made you appear very cool, | 0:06:19 | 0:06:21 | |
cos you had this album under your arm. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:22 | |
Certainly not Mrs Mills. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:24 | |
MUSIC: "Powder Your Face With Sunshine" by Mrs Mills | 0:06:24 | 0:06:27 | |
Mrs Mills is unique in having this | 0:06:33 | 0:06:35 | |
raucous pub style, this, "Let's have a good laugh, a good singsong." | 0:06:35 | 0:06:40 | |
And just the energy and the enthusiasm... | 0:06:40 | 0:06:44 | |
is worth more than musical polish and sophistication. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:48 | |
But, at the same time, | 0:06:48 | 0:06:50 | |
the technique is immaculate! | 0:06:50 | 0:06:53 | |
She's got quite a broad appeal... | 0:06:53 | 0:06:55 | |
by virtue of the fact she can play any music, | 0:06:55 | 0:06:59 | |
but obviously in exactly the same style. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
While her records may seem as quintessentially British as a pub sing along, | 0:07:02 | 0:07:06 | |
Mrs Mills' playing style actually had its roots in ragtime | 0:07:06 | 0:07:09 | |
and the jazz clubs of East Coast America. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:13 | |
The style of piano playing that she used | 0:07:13 | 0:07:15 | |
was in its day known as "vamping style" or "stride piano", | 0:07:15 | 0:07:19 | |
which was basically this kind of bass pattern. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:23 | |
HE PLAYS PIANO | 0:07:23 | 0:07:25 | |
This was a kind of technique | 0:07:27 | 0:07:29 | |
that developed in the 1920s - | 0:07:29 | 0:07:31 | |
American players in Chicago, | 0:07:31 | 0:07:34 | |
James Johnson, | 0:07:34 | 0:07:35 | |
later, Earl Hines. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:37 | |
Jazz players who worked upon this particular style | 0:07:37 | 0:07:39 | |
to give a lot of rhythmic punch | 0:07:39 | 0:07:41 | |
to the jazz music they were playing. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:43 | |
MUSIC: "Carolina Shout" by Willie "The Lion" Smith | 0:07:43 | 0:07:46 | |
It rapidly became an outdated style, | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
so that by the time Mrs Mills was playing... | 0:07:58 | 0:08:01 | |
it did sound very old-fashioned. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:04 | |
The stride piano style is difficult. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:06 | |
It's a dead thing now, | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
and it's a great shame. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:10 | |
It died because it has no end user. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:12 | |
The end user for the stride piano player was always the pub. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:15 | |
PUB SING ALONG | 0:08:15 | 0:08:17 | |
Thousands and thousands of pubs in the UK, | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
in the '40s, '50s and '60s - | 0:08:28 | 0:08:30 | |
every single one of them had a piano in it. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:33 | |
People would come and sit down at the piano and play, | 0:08:33 | 0:08:36 | |
and people would sing, | 0:08:36 | 0:08:38 | |
and it was just great, great fun. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
That's really where the stride piano player | 0:08:41 | 0:08:44 | |
used to play. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:46 | |
Basically, what the stride piano player is... | 0:08:46 | 0:08:49 | |
your right hand plays the melody of an old classic, whatever it is... | 0:08:49 | 0:08:53 | |
If you take Sweet Georgia Brown... | 0:08:53 | 0:08:56 | |
HE PLAYS SWEET GEORGIA BROWN | 0:08:56 | 0:08:58 | |
If you have a band, you'd normally have an acoustic guitar player | 0:09:00 | 0:09:05 | |
who would play the chord for you. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:07 | |
So you'd have... | 0:09:07 | 0:09:08 | |
HE PLAYS SWEET GEORGIA BROWN | 0:09:08 | 0:09:10 | |
But then you'd also have a bass player - | 0:09:12 | 0:09:14 | |
probably a stand-up string bass player, | 0:09:14 | 0:09:16 | |
-who'd play the bass notes... -HE PLAYS SWEET GEORGIA BROWN | 0:09:16 | 0:09:20 | |
Good stride piano players would put the two together... | 0:09:20 | 0:09:23 | |
HE PLAYS SWEET GEORGIA BROWN | 0:09:23 | 0:09:26 | |
Etcetera, etcetera, | 0:09:39 | 0:09:41 | |
for the length of the piece. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:43 | |
But when the pubs died out, | 0:09:43 | 0:09:45 | |
there was no call for those piano players, | 0:09:45 | 0:09:47 | |
because people were playing pianos or keyboards within a band | 0:09:47 | 0:09:51 | |
that had a guitar or rhythm section and a bass player, | 0:09:51 | 0:09:54 | |
so they didn't have to do that any more. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:56 | |
I think what might surprise some people, | 0:09:56 | 0:09:59 | |
if they think of Mrs Mills as a party pianist, | 0:09:59 | 0:10:01 | |
or pub pianist-style, | 0:10:01 | 0:10:03 | |
is that it's actually very tricky | 0:10:03 | 0:10:06 | |
to do this vamping style. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:08 | |
-You're playing a bass note down there... -HE PLAYS BASS NOTE | 0:10:08 | 0:10:10 | |
-..Playing a chord up there... -HE PLAYS CHORD | 0:10:10 | 0:10:12 | |
Because you're playing the melody with your right hand... | 0:10:12 | 0:10:15 | |
so, in fact, you have to have the accuracy | 0:10:15 | 0:10:19 | |
to jump from one chord to another. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:22 | |
I'll show you, if I speed up, | 0:10:22 | 0:10:23 | |
and very soon, I won't be able to play it without wrong notes... | 0:10:23 | 0:10:26 | |
HE PLAYS PIANO | 0:10:26 | 0:10:28 | |
I can't even play the beginning! | 0:10:28 | 0:10:30 | |
If I play slowly... | 0:10:30 | 0:10:32 | |
You just can't do it. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:39 | |
Mrs Mills was amazingly accurate, | 0:10:39 | 0:10:41 | |
and it's quite a tricky technique. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:44 | |
MUSIC: "I've Got A Lovely Bunch Of Coconuts" by Mrs Mills | 0:10:44 | 0:10:47 | |
I play the piano myself, | 0:10:57 | 0:10:58 | |
and I picked up loads of tips from listening to Mrs Mills. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
And I still play cockney piano and things now. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:03 | |
One of the main tips is just to keep it going, keep it really live, | 0:11:03 | 0:11:07 | |
but also filling in all the gaps between the tunes. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:10 | |
It's hard to demonstrate that without a piano. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:12 | |
But if she plays a really standard song, | 0:11:12 | 0:11:15 | |
it's all the little fill-ins and gaps she puts between the tune | 0:11:15 | 0:11:18 | |
that just kind of brings it to life, | 0:11:18 | 0:11:20 | |
and she has a standard set few | 0:11:20 | 0:11:22 | |
that appear throughout a lot of the songs. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:25 | |
When people rushed out and bought the sheet music, to try to play like Mrs Mills, | 0:11:25 | 0:11:28 | |
they found that whilst they might be able to get the basics of the tune, | 0:11:28 | 0:11:31 | |
they weren't able to put in all the little bits that made her music special. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:35 | |
For example, when she was playing a well-known song from the '30s, | 0:11:35 | 0:11:39 | |
the actual sheet music is quite simple, | 0:11:39 | 0:11:41 | |
but if I show you the bars that she changed, | 0:11:41 | 0:11:44 | |
the actual tune goes... | 0:11:44 | 0:11:46 | |
HE PLAYS PIANO | 0:11:46 | 0:11:48 | |
Whereas Mrs Mills used to put a little bit in to change that, and she goes... | 0:11:51 | 0:11:54 | |
HE PLAYS PIANO | 0:11:54 | 0:11:58 | |
So she used to put a little bit in-between, | 0:12:08 | 0:12:10 | |
and it was those "twiddly bits", as she used to call them, | 0:12:10 | 0:12:13 | |
that really made them unique, | 0:12:13 | 0:12:14 | |
and it gave it that sparkle. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:17 | |
It was this sparkle that turned an unknown 40-year-old housewife | 0:12:17 | 0:12:21 | |
into the most unlikely of stars. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:24 | |
Born Gladys Jordan in 1918, | 0:12:24 | 0:12:26 | |
she grew up in Essex, | 0:12:26 | 0:12:28 | |
and at the age of 29, married Bert Mills, | 0:12:28 | 0:12:31 | |
settling down to a life of suburban bliss. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:33 | |
Never dreaming that one day, she would become a household name. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:37 | |
When did you start to play the piano? | 0:12:39 | 0:12:41 | |
-When I was 3½. -Yes? | 0:12:41 | 0:12:43 | |
They took me away when I was seven, | 0:12:43 | 0:12:45 | |
because the teacher said I was wasting her time and their money. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:48 | |
Yes? | 0:12:48 | 0:12:50 | |
When did you become famous? | 0:12:50 | 0:12:51 | |
"Famous"! Go on with you. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:54 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:12:54 | 0:12:55 | |
I came in to show business in 1962. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:59 | |
Mrs Mills had just about the best... | 0:12:59 | 0:13:01 | |
discovery story in the world, I think. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:04 | |
She was working as a superintendent at a typing pool, | 0:13:04 | 0:13:08 | |
at the Paymaster General Office in London. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:10 | |
She used to work in a dance band | 0:13:10 | 0:13:14 | |
in the evenings, just to get some extra money and things. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:16 | |
I was playing at a local golf club dinner and dance | 0:13:16 | 0:13:19 | |
with my little band, | 0:13:19 | 0:13:21 | |
and an agent happened to be there. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
Literally, they did their set and afterwards, | 0:13:24 | 0:13:26 | |
a man came up to her and said, "More people should hear you play," | 0:13:26 | 0:13:29 | |
and gave her a telephone number. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:31 | |
She just thought it was going to be | 0:13:31 | 0:13:33 | |
for another job for the band, you know. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:36 | |
But then it wasn't. It was for the Billy Cotton Show on the BBC. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:39 | |
And she went along for an interview | 0:13:39 | 0:13:41 | |
and Billy Cotton was there, | 0:13:41 | 0:13:43 | |
and they said, "Yes, we'll have her." | 0:13:43 | 0:13:45 | |
The balloon went up and I couldn't believe it. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:47 | |
Kept pinching myself to see if I hadn't dreamt it all. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:50 | |
MUSIC: "My Old Man" by Mrs Mills | 0:13:50 | 0:13:53 | |
# My old man said follow the van | 0:13:53 | 0:13:55 | |
# And don't dilly dally on the way... # | 0:13:55 | 0:13:58 | |
That appearance on the Billy Cotton Band Show | 0:13:59 | 0:14:02 | |
was to change Mrs Mills's life forever, | 0:14:02 | 0:14:04 | |
and soon led to a contract with Rolling Stones manager, Eric Easton, | 0:14:04 | 0:14:08 | |
and top EMI record producer, Norman Newell. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:12 | |
# I dallied and dillied | 0:14:12 | 0:14:14 | |
# Lost my way and don't know where to roam... # | 0:14:14 | 0:14:18 | |
It was Norman | 0:14:18 | 0:14:20 | |
who, if you were a pianist, | 0:14:20 | 0:14:23 | |
was the producer to aim for, | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
because it was Norman that recorded Side Saddle and Roulette | 0:14:26 | 0:14:29 | |
and Snow Coach, | 0:14:29 | 0:14:31 | |
the huge Russ Conway hits. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:35 | |
MUSIC: "Snow Coach" by Russ Conway | 0:14:35 | 0:14:38 | |
Russ had been very successful throughout the 1950s, | 0:14:39 | 0:14:43 | |
with these piano records, | 0:14:43 | 0:14:45 | |
and so I suspect that when Norman saw Mrs Mills... | 0:14:45 | 0:14:49 | |
having a success on the Billy Cotton Band Show, | 0:14:49 | 0:14:54 | |
his antenna probably went up and he said, "OK, let's try this woman." | 0:14:54 | 0:15:00 | |
'She burst through the door and almost fell over the huge bag of | 0:15:00 | 0:15:03 | |
'shopping she was carrying.' | 0:15:03 | 0:15:05 | |
Yes, the same man who discovered some of the biggest names in music - | 0:15:05 | 0:15:08 | |
internationally famous record producer Norman Newell. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:12 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:15:12 | 0:15:14 | |
Norman! I'll never forgive you! Lovely! | 0:15:14 | 0:15:20 | |
Mrs Mills was really lucky to be with Norman Newell, | 0:15:20 | 0:15:24 | |
because, I think he kind of, looked after her in a way, as well. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:29 | |
He kind of programmed her albums quite well. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:35 | |
He picked really good musical directors to work with her, | 0:15:35 | 0:15:37 | |
in particular Geoff Love who kind of understood the fun that she needed | 0:15:37 | 0:15:43 | |
in a recording studio. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:44 | |
-EAMONN ANDREWS: -Norman's not alone. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:47 | |
With him is top musical director Geoff Love. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:51 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:15:51 | 0:15:53 | |
THEY EXCHANGE GREETINGS | 0:15:53 | 0:15:57 | |
I was lunching with them today | 0:15:59 | 0:16:02 | |
and they never said a word, the pair of them. Lies! Lies! | 0:16:02 | 0:16:09 | |
-Tea break, love! -Tea break, yes, oh dear! | 0:16:09 | 0:16:12 | |
It's interesting you see on some of Mrs Mill's recordings, | 0:16:12 | 0:16:16 | |
she has a chorus of people joining in but they're not a church choir, | 0:16:16 | 0:16:21 | |
they're not even in tune most of the time, like the honky-tonk piano. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:26 | |
It's raucous singing | 0:16:26 | 0:16:28 | |
and this helps to generate that sort of party effect. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:31 | |
# Then his mama went out | 0:16:31 | 0:16:35 | |
AUDIENCE: # Da-da-da-dee-dee-de | 0:16:35 | 0:16:40 | |
GEOFF LOVE: # Then her papa went out | 0:16:40 | 0:16:43 | |
AUDIENCE: # Da-da-da-dee-dee-de | 0:16:43 | 0:16:48 | |
# Geoff and I stayed home... # | 0:16:48 | 0:16:51 | |
She sings duets with Geoff Love | 0:16:51 | 0:16:53 | |
and there's a number called Da-da-da-da which is like | 0:16:53 | 0:16:56 | |
a song from the early part of the last century and it was like | 0:16:56 | 0:17:02 | |
a couple who were sort of getting together in the front parlour. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:07 | |
# Glad and I stayed home | 0:17:07 | 0:17:10 | |
# Three of us on our own... # | 0:17:10 | 0:17:14 | |
The mama went out and the papa went out, | 0:17:14 | 0:17:17 | |
then the lights went out and his cigar went out. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:19 | |
It was all about went out and they did this duet, Geoff and Glad, | 0:17:19 | 0:17:23 | |
and when it got to the line about the cigar, instead of the cigar | 0:17:23 | 0:17:27 | |
went out she sang, "His cigar came out!" | 0:17:27 | 0:17:30 | |
# Then his cigar came out... # | 0:17:30 | 0:17:34 | |
TRIES TO CORRECT | 0:17:34 | 0:17:36 | |
RAUCOUS LAUGHTER | 0:17:36 | 0:17:40 | |
GEOFF: # Fire went out | 0:17:40 | 0:17:43 | |
MRS MILLS: # But when the light went out | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
AUDIENCE: # Da-da-da-dee-dee-de. # | 0:17:46 | 0:17:52 | |
Although there's a sauciness at times obviously | 0:17:52 | 0:17:57 | |
with some of the repertoire, | 0:17:57 | 0:18:00 | |
there's also a kind of moral wholesomeness as well. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:04 | |
It's endorsing community and family values in the end. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:09 | |
# But when the light went out | 0:18:09 | 0:18:12 | |
AUDIENCE: # Da-da-da-dee-dee-de. # | 0:18:12 | 0:18:20 | |
APPLAUSE AND CHEERING | 0:18:20 | 0:18:24 | |
I think the big success of her records | 0:18:27 | 0:18:29 | |
was appealing to parties and probably parties in the home. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:34 | |
At the time she's playing, the piano has declined as an instrument | 0:18:35 | 0:18:39 | |
that a lot of people could play. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:42 | |
You've only to go back to the 1920s, early '30s - | 0:18:42 | 0:18:46 | |
a lot of women could play the piano. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:49 | |
# Reminds me of me pappy | 0:18:49 | 0:18:52 | |
# Who was handsome, young and happy | 0:18:52 | 0:18:57 | |
# When he planted this old apple tree. # | 0:18:57 | 0:19:03 | |
So in a way it was, I suppose for the young, | 0:19:03 | 0:19:06 | |
like seeing your granny play and the whole | 0:19:06 | 0:19:11 | |
sort of atmosphere of the family coming together, | 0:19:11 | 0:19:14 | |
singing these songs, inviting friends around, | 0:19:14 | 0:19:18 | |
it had all the appeal of the pub sing-song. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:22 | |
# I dream | 0:19:22 | 0:19:24 | |
# Of the old apple tree. # | 0:19:24 | 0:19:30 | |
# My old man said follow the van | 0:19:30 | 0:19:35 | |
# Don't dilly dally on the way... # | 0:19:35 | 0:19:40 | |
Mrs Mills was the sort of music that I was brought up with because | 0:19:42 | 0:19:46 | |
all my family played and all our family parties | 0:19:46 | 0:19:48 | |
were just old-fashioned sing-along, getting around the piano, | 0:19:48 | 0:19:51 | |
just like Mrs Mills. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:54 | |
So I suppose I was always endeared towards Mrs Mills | 0:19:54 | 0:19:57 | |
because she was playing this sort of music I was brought up with | 0:19:57 | 0:20:00 | |
and it was like another old auntie, you know, | 0:20:00 | 0:20:03 | |
and that's why I love all her stuff. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:05 | |
I started playing that old-fashioned stride style myself. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:09 | |
MUSIC: "My Old Man" by Leigh and Collins | 0:20:09 | 0:20:12 | |
# And you can't find your way home. # | 0:20:15 | 0:20:20 | |
They were almost disposable. They weren't masterpieces. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:25 | |
It was a very functional type of music. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:28 | |
It was music that was just there when you were having a knees up. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:31 | |
When you weren't having a knees up, you don't play that music. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:34 | |
# I've got a lovely bunch of coconuts | 0:20:34 | 0:20:39 | |
# Here they are standing in a row | 0:20:39 | 0:20:43 | |
# Big ones small ones Some as big as your 'ead | 0:20:43 | 0:20:47 | |
# Give' em a twist a flick of your wrist... # | 0:20:47 | 0:20:51 | |
Having a party on your album title pretty much gave you | 0:20:51 | 0:20:55 | |
instant sales because the people who bought these albums | 0:20:55 | 0:20:58 | |
they would put them on when they had a party. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:01 | |
It was as simple as that. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:02 | |
You didn't say I think I'll put Mrs Mills' party album and sit on | 0:21:02 | 0:21:06 | |
your own and listen to it and smoke a pipe or whatever it was you did. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:10 | |
You put it on because you wanted to have a sing-along. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:12 | |
# Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner | 0:21:12 | 0:21:16 | |
# And I love London town... # | 0:21:16 | 0:21:20 | |
It all goes back to the sort of 1930s, 1940s, '50s, | 0:21:20 | 0:21:24 | |
when people did gather round the family piano. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
By the '60s most of them had got rid of the piano. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:31 | |
They had no room for it | 0:21:31 | 0:21:33 | |
because the television came in so there was no room in the parlour | 0:21:33 | 0:21:36 | |
for the piano so the alternative was you bought Mrs Mills' album. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:39 | |
You put that on. You could still have your sing-along. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:42 | |
# I love London town. # | 0:21:42 | 0:21:46 | |
I mean to some extent her records were the very first karaoke. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:51 | |
You could sing along to her stuff. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:53 | |
So you put the albums on and after everyone had a few drinks and | 0:21:53 | 0:21:58 | |
Aunt Maude had her dry sherry, they would start singing the songs. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:04 | |
It would end up as a singsong. | 0:22:04 | 0:22:06 | |
It was very much a family thing I think that people did. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:09 | |
She was born in 1918, so we're talking just before the war. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:13 | |
She'd start playing and people'd think, "That's what | 0:22:13 | 0:22:18 | |
"I remember", you know, the tunes, songs from the war years when things | 0:22:18 | 0:22:23 | |
weren't very good for people | 0:22:23 | 0:22:24 | |
and it was quite dark and depressing. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:26 | |
# Made me happy sometimes | 0:22:26 | 0:22:29 | |
# You made me sad | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
# But there were times dear | 0:22:32 | 0:22:37 | |
# You made me feel so bad... # | 0:22:37 | 0:22:42 | |
It was out of the war years you know the idea that everyone had | 0:22:42 | 0:22:45 | |
a piano, not a TV or record player, | 0:22:45 | 0:22:47 | |
so you just play a piano and sing and you feel better. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:51 | |
That's exactly what she was and she was born out of that sort of style. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:54 | |
# Yes I do, you know I do | 0:22:54 | 0:22:58 | |
# Gimme gimme gimme | 0:22:58 | 0:23:02 | |
# You know you got the kind of kisses I'd die for... # | 0:23:02 | 0:23:06 | |
I think mostly women buy the type of music that she was playing. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:10 | |
They could identify with her, those sort of people that | 0:23:10 | 0:23:13 | |
like that type of song could identify with Mrs Mills - | 0:23:13 | 0:23:17 | |
a chubby, tubby, ebullient lady, very nice person, | 0:23:17 | 0:23:22 | |
and they could identify with her. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:25 | |
She gives that sense of, you know, just come and join me | 0:23:25 | 0:23:28 | |
and be jolly and let's have a laugh, that sort of thing. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:32 | |
Let's be merry and jolly. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:34 | |
When you hear her play it brings so much life and joy into a room | 0:23:34 | 0:23:37 | |
and for me, | 0:23:37 | 0:23:39 | |
if I'm feeling just a bit fed up or a bit down or anything, I just bung | 0:23:39 | 0:23:42 | |
a Mrs Mills record on and I start feeling jolly straightaway. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:45 | |
But no, she's great to kind of, dance along to. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:49 | |
MUSIC: "My Old Man" by Leigh and Collins | 0:23:49 | 0:23:54 | |
What she did didn't depend on fashion or style. | 0:23:56 | 0:24:00 | |
It was what you see is what you get | 0:24:00 | 0:24:04 | |
and her fan base, her audience, | 0:24:04 | 0:24:08 | |
knew what they wanted and Glad knew what they wanted. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:12 | |
And so it's going to go down well on radio and TV and for a mixed | 0:24:12 | 0:24:18 | |
audience at a time when popular music was beginning to separate | 0:24:18 | 0:24:23 | |
off its audiences into the older audience and the younger audience. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:29 | |
With the exception of Top Of The Pops, I don't think you ever really | 0:24:29 | 0:24:32 | |
saw rock music at all. You saw it on Top Of The Pops | 0:24:32 | 0:24:35 | |
and Old Grey Whistle Test and kids TV | 0:24:35 | 0:24:37 | |
and the rest of the time it was Mrs Mills world | 0:24:37 | 0:24:41 | |
and everybody else was just living in it. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:43 | |
Back then a lot of show needed a musical interlude. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:49 | |
In fact, even quite recently, shows...you think, hang on a minute | 0:24:49 | 0:24:53 | |
I'm watching a comedy review show and now there's a musical interlude. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:57 | |
It still happens. Back then if you couldn't get some really good singer | 0:24:57 | 0:25:01 | |
you'd just get someone to knock out some tunes on a piano | 0:25:01 | 0:25:04 | |
and if you can knock out four tunes in three minutes that's great | 0:25:04 | 0:25:07 | |
and suddenly there you go, you've got people that can do | 0:25:07 | 0:25:10 | |
medleys of numbers. I'll come on three quarters of the way | 0:25:10 | 0:25:13 | |
through the show, bit of music, you have a rest, everyone can go | 0:25:13 | 0:25:16 | |
on the back foot for a bit and then we're back into the show. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:19 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:25:19 | 0:25:23 | |
Of course that was Colin Rose having fun with a few old flames. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:28 | |
I wonder what he does with the old ones. | 0:25:28 | 0:25:31 | |
It's back to our Glad who always plays with a certain amount of fire. | 0:25:31 | 0:25:35 | |
CLASSICAL MUSIC SCORE | 0:25:35 | 0:25:40 | |
She lends herself very well to television in that she's | 0:25:40 | 0:25:44 | |
bringing the music hall to our TV screens and that she's | 0:25:44 | 0:25:49 | |
bringing that variety and I just love the fact that she was | 0:25:49 | 0:25:54 | |
just there looking at the audience, smiling, that's cabaret in itself. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:58 | |
You always thought or sensed that Mrs Mills was probably the standby | 0:26:03 | 0:26:06 | |
guest on something like the Des O'Connor Show, | 0:26:06 | 0:26:09 | |
Morecambe and Wise, Harry Secombe Show, anything like that, | 0:26:09 | 0:26:12 | |
if they had some big guest that was going to come in and suddenly | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
dropped out at the last minute. "Get Mrs Mills." | 0:26:15 | 0:26:17 | |
She'll come in, knock off four numbers, it'd be great. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:20 | |
That'll be the three-minute music number done, phoom, done. Sorted. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:23 | |
Let's give a warm welcome for Mrs Mills. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:25 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:26:25 | 0:26:30 | |
ERIC CHEERS | 0:26:31 | 0:26:33 | |
-Hell, fire, it's all happening now. -It's lovely to see you. | 0:26:33 | 0:26:37 | |
I'm glad to see you, Glad. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:38 | |
-Lovely to be with you and I brought this for you. -Great. What is it? | 0:26:38 | 0:26:42 | |
What do you mean what is it? It's one of my fabulous fruitcakes. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:45 | |
-Is it really? -All the fruit stoned. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:48 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:26:48 | 0:26:50 | |
Glad Mills was Eric and Ernie's favourite support act. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:55 | |
They loved her, they would always insist that she was on their bills. | 0:26:55 | 0:27:00 | |
It actually made sound sense because if you think about it | 0:27:00 | 0:27:03 | |
there would be no clash, they did comedy, she did music. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:07 | |
Although they would have appealed to the same | 0:27:07 | 0:27:10 | |
kind of audience, middle of the road audience. | 0:27:10 | 0:27:12 | |
Yes, she was Eric and Ernie's favourite act. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:15 | |
I'm going to put it down there, stand on it, and I'm the same height as you. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:18 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:27:18 | 0:27:20 | |
I'd not stand for that Glad, if I were you. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:23 | |
Tell you what, if you want a laugh, roll on him. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:25 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:27:25 | 0:27:28 | |
What I did think was brilliant, they totally ridiculed | 0:27:28 | 0:27:31 | |
her like they did with every act but it was all about her weight | 0:27:31 | 0:27:34 | |
and nowadays on television they wouldn't...that's not PC, is it? | 0:27:34 | 0:27:37 | |
So they wouldn't necessarily do that. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:40 | |
But she just goes along with it and laughs all the way through and they | 0:27:40 | 0:27:43 | |
keep laughing with her so she has an infectious laugh, so you can see why | 0:27:43 | 0:27:47 | |
people at the time would have really enjoyed watching her on television. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:52 | |
-Don't be rude. -I won't be rude. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:55 | |
-Where's the piano? -You hungry? | 0:27:55 | 0:27:57 | |
She didn't care whether she was cool or uncool. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:02 | |
She was quite happy with her image and very happy with her appearance, | 0:28:02 | 0:28:07 | |
her size, shape, she didn't care two hoots whether other people | 0:28:07 | 0:28:11 | |
poked fun at her. She was enjoying herself. | 0:28:11 | 0:28:13 | |
You have to admire her for that. | 0:28:13 | 0:28:15 | |
-What are you going to play? -I'm very glad, Glad. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:17 | |
-Something bright and jolly. -Something bright and jolly. | 0:28:17 | 0:28:20 | |
There's a thought. Before you go, love, give us a laugh. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:23 | |
-One of the specials, before you go. -You can't laugh to order. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:27 | |
Think of him stripped! | 0:28:27 | 0:28:29 | |
Her laughter was almost legendary and you can't hear Mrs Mills laugh | 0:28:33 | 0:28:39 | |
without...even me thinking of it now...you can't think of her | 0:28:39 | 0:28:44 | |
kind of laugh without immediately wanting to join in. | 0:28:44 | 0:28:48 | |
She used to say laugh and grow fat and it works. | 0:28:48 | 0:28:51 | |
She used to say, she did! | 0:28:51 | 0:28:52 | |
No, she didn't bother. When she was doing her first pantomime | 0:28:55 | 0:28:58 | |
and she played Fair Enough and she had a wand, obviously, | 0:28:58 | 0:29:02 | |
and she'd be waving the wand and they'd put weights in the end, | 0:29:02 | 0:29:06 | |
so every time she lifted it up it fell down and things like that. | 0:29:06 | 0:29:09 | |
People have always played tricks, but they knew she'd just | 0:29:09 | 0:29:12 | |
laugh about it you see, she'd just roar with laughter. | 0:29:12 | 0:29:15 | |
Did you find it difficult being rather plump? What about clothes? | 0:29:15 | 0:29:19 | |
I don't have any problem at all | 0:29:19 | 0:29:20 | |
because I've got a dear little lady that makes everything for me. | 0:29:20 | 0:29:25 | |
-By the way, do you like this? -Very much. | 0:29:25 | 0:29:27 | |
I got that from Rent-a-Tent. | 0:29:27 | 0:29:30 | |
She didn't come in small, bless her, but that was part of her charm | 0:29:30 | 0:29:33 | |
and she had this wonderful smile and even though she wasn't that | 0:29:33 | 0:29:39 | |
old then, I can remember thinking of her as the sort of granny or | 0:29:39 | 0:29:45 | |
auntie or the lady next door, you'd like to have. | 0:29:45 | 0:29:50 | |
She had that great art of turning and smiling, | 0:29:50 | 0:29:56 | |
so she'd be playing away and then she'd... | 0:29:56 | 0:29:58 | |
JAZZ STYLE MUSIC | 0:29:58 | 0:30:02 | |
When she first started releasing records with EMI, she was | 0:30:15 | 0:30:18 | |
so worried that she wasn't a star, somebody who wasn't deserving | 0:30:18 | 0:30:24 | |
of this fame, that she actually refused to give up work and she | 0:30:24 | 0:30:27 | |
used to come into Abbey Road during her lunch hour to record the records. | 0:30:27 | 0:30:30 | |
I said I couldn't come into show business and give up my job | 0:30:30 | 0:30:33 | |
and my pension. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:34 | |
-What job? -I was a civil servant in the Treasury. | 0:30:34 | 0:30:38 | |
-Were you? -Yes. | 0:30:38 | 0:30:39 | |
-You're happy you did it now? -What? I should think I am. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:43 | |
I've never looked back and I've had a ball, I really have. | 0:30:43 | 0:30:46 | |
The notion that she could make a living being an entertainer, | 0:30:46 | 0:30:49 | |
I think was a little foreign to her. It took a few years to convince her. | 0:30:49 | 0:30:53 | |
It was only after she reached the top 20 that EMI turned round | 0:30:53 | 0:30:56 | |
and said you absolutely need to leave your job | 0:30:56 | 0:30:59 | |
and be a full-time entertainer and that's when she did. | 0:30:59 | 0:31:02 | |
She was probably about the least showbizzy person I've ever met. | 0:31:02 | 0:31:06 | |
Her appeal really was her ordinariness | 0:31:06 | 0:31:08 | |
and whilst everyone's quaffing champagne and canapes, | 0:31:08 | 0:31:12 | |
all she really wanted was a cup of tea and a biscuit. | 0:31:12 | 0:31:15 | |
She was very grounded and very down to earth | 0:31:15 | 0:31:19 | |
and I think that's what people liked about her. | 0:31:19 | 0:31:22 | |
When I first came into show business, yes, I was quite alarmed. | 0:31:22 | 0:31:26 | |
In fact, I went to a very exclusive restaurant with Geoff Love | 0:31:26 | 0:31:30 | |
and my recording manager Norman Newell, | 0:31:30 | 0:31:32 | |
and we were sitting by a little table where the head waiter was | 0:31:32 | 0:31:37 | |
making a crepe...I learned afterwards it was Crepe Suzette. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:42 | |
And suddenly it burst into flames. | 0:31:42 | 0:31:45 | |
I felt ever so sorry for him and I said, "Never mind, love." | 0:31:45 | 0:31:49 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:31:49 | 0:31:52 | |
I said this has happened to me at home with the chips! | 0:31:52 | 0:31:56 | |
I mean for many years she remained living in a modest | 0:32:03 | 0:32:05 | |
maisonette in Loughton - she was a household name by then. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:09 | |
But she was always very, very ordinary, she'd speak to anyone, | 0:32:09 | 0:32:13 | |
there were no airs or graces with her. | 0:32:13 | 0:32:16 | |
She was just a lovely ordinary woman who just enjoyed making people | 0:32:16 | 0:32:19 | |
happy with her music. | 0:32:19 | 0:32:21 | |
She was just pure entertainment, that's what it was, | 0:32:21 | 0:32:24 | |
and it was always a smile, I mean some of the songs | 0:32:24 | 0:32:27 | |
she used to do was very much a reflection of who this woman was. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:30 | |
I've some written here. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:32 | |
She'd go Ain't It A Grand And Glorious Feeling | 0:32:32 | 0:32:34 | |
into Yes That's My Baby, | 0:32:34 | 0:32:36 | |
straight into... here's a great one... | 0:32:36 | 0:32:39 | |
Powder Your Face With Sunshine. | 0:32:39 | 0:32:40 | |
You see. Only Mrs Mills could do that. | 0:32:40 | 0:32:43 | |
And there she was, a contemporary of The Beatles. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:45 | |
She's absolutely in the tradition of British music hall performers. | 0:32:45 | 0:32:50 | |
These were performers like Marie Lloyd, Lily Morris | 0:32:50 | 0:32:55 | |
and Florrie Ford - | 0:32:55 | 0:32:56 | |
their songs in the music hall had choruses in which | 0:32:56 | 0:33:00 | |
everybody joined in and sang along | 0:33:00 | 0:33:03 | |
so many of the songs that Mrs Mills played were, in fact, | 0:33:03 | 0:33:06 | |
those music hall songs - Oh, Oh Antonio, | 0:33:06 | 0:33:08 | |
Don't Dilly Dally On The Way | 0:33:08 | 0:33:11 | |
and songs like that, they go back to those music hall ladies. | 0:33:11 | 0:33:14 | |
MUSIC: "My Old Man" by Leigh and Collins | 0:33:14 | 0:33:20 | |
What she did cleverly or her manager Norman Newell cleverly did was | 0:33:33 | 0:33:37 | |
pepper her records with old fashioned songs like Cockney numbers | 0:33:37 | 0:33:41 | |
and then he'd pop in a hit of the day, like one record at home | 0:33:41 | 0:33:46 | |
where the first track is Save All Your Kisses For Me | 0:33:46 | 0:33:48 | |
which is one of the Eurovision Song Contest hits and Congratulations | 0:33:48 | 0:33:52 | |
and I think there's the odd Beatles song on one here and there as well. | 0:33:52 | 0:33:56 | |
I think they tried to market it for everybody. | 0:33:56 | 0:33:59 | |
MUSIC: "Yellow Submarine" by Lennon & McCartney | 0:33:59 | 0:34:03 | |
The track listings seem to be put together it's like demented. | 0:34:07 | 0:34:12 | |
This is clearly 1976, '77. | 0:34:12 | 0:34:16 | |
And you go from Save Your Kisses For Me | 0:34:18 | 0:34:20 | |
a recent hit, to How Much Is That Doggy In The Window, | 0:34:20 | 0:34:24 | |
Blueberry Hill, | 0:34:24 | 0:34:25 | |
Consider Yourself... I mean it's all over the shop. | 0:34:25 | 0:34:29 | |
Sheik Of Araby, Trail Of The Lonesome Pine, Cabaret...erm... | 0:34:29 | 0:34:36 | |
# Yellow submarine, yellow submarine. # | 0:34:36 | 0:34:41 | |
Piano was always notoriously hard to record. | 0:34:45 | 0:34:48 | |
If you listen to a lot of early recordings of pianos they either | 0:34:48 | 0:34:52 | |
sound incredibly woolly or they got a little bit of reverberation, | 0:34:52 | 0:34:56 | |
a little bit of wooooo...the way they play the notes are not clear. | 0:34:56 | 0:34:59 | |
By the time Gladys had come along, they'd sorted all that out | 0:35:02 | 0:35:06 | |
so you could actually have a sort of a piano sound that you hadn't heard before. | 0:35:06 | 0:35:11 | |
Just how did Mrs Mills achieve that distinctive piano sound? | 0:35:13 | 0:35:18 | |
The answer lies in the studio where Mrs Mills, | 0:35:18 | 0:35:20 | |
along with one or two other bands, recorded all her hits. | 0:35:20 | 0:35:24 | |
I've been here for about 10 years | 0:35:27 | 0:35:29 | |
and the first time I saw that piano, | 0:35:29 | 0:35:31 | |
I was like, "What's that piano?" "That's the Mrs Mills piano" | 0:35:31 | 0:35:34 | |
so it's carried on the tradition | 0:35:34 | 0:35:36 | |
and I guess it will always be known as the Mrs Mills piano. | 0:35:36 | 0:35:39 | |
Whether people who talk of the Mrs Mills piano know exactly who Mrs Mills is, I don't know. | 0:35:39 | 0:35:45 | |
You have to go and do your research, I suppose, | 0:35:45 | 0:35:47 | |
because I don't think everyone is fully aware of the history | 0:35:47 | 0:35:51 | |
and the background and as to why, but it's just known as Mrs Mills'. | 0:35:51 | 0:35:57 | |
To create the distinctive honky-tonk sound, the piano was subtly adjusted | 0:35:57 | 0:36:02 | |
by an Abbey Road pop engineer, and has remained that way ever since. | 0:36:02 | 0:36:07 | |
To get a more metallic sound, they decided to try | 0:36:08 | 0:36:11 | |
and put a lacquer on the hammers here, which seeps into the material | 0:36:11 | 0:36:17 | |
and toughens up the hammer and you get a more metallic percussive sound. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:22 | |
Which sounds very different to how a grand piano would sound for example, | 0:36:25 | 0:36:29 | |
which is very lush and beautiful. This is more edgy. | 0:36:29 | 0:36:33 | |
And another thing they tried was to get more of a chorusy effect. | 0:36:33 | 0:36:40 | |
You see these - each hammer strikes three strings | 0:36:42 | 0:36:44 | |
and they would tune the piano traditionally as you'd tune a piano, | 0:36:44 | 0:36:47 | |
and then once they'd done that, they would just take the centre string | 0:36:47 | 0:36:52 | |
and just knock it slightly out. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:54 | |
Not too far, so it's still harmonically in tune | 0:36:54 | 0:36:57 | |
but it still has that unusual sound. | 0:36:57 | 0:37:01 | |
The best way to describe it in modern day would be like a chorusing effect. | 0:37:01 | 0:37:06 | |
I'll give you a little demonstration of how it sounds now | 0:37:06 | 0:37:11 | |
in the style of Mrs Mills - bashing! | 0:37:11 | 0:37:14 | |
I don't think any of the honky-tonk pianos I've encountered have ever been quite the same as this one. | 0:37:29 | 0:37:34 | |
This one has a certain magic and also I'm very aware of its history. | 0:37:34 | 0:37:39 | |
It's great to play it and know that so many hit records have been made on this instrument. | 0:37:39 | 0:37:45 | |
Despite giving it her name, | 0:37:45 | 0:37:47 | |
Mrs Mills was by no means the only musician to play the piano. | 0:37:47 | 0:37:51 | |
# Every head he's had the pleasure to know | 0:37:51 | 0:37:54 | |
# And all the people that come and go stop and say hello | 0:37:54 | 0:38:00 | |
# On the corner... # | 0:38:03 | 0:38:05 | |
The Beatles were looking for new sounds, something slightly unusual | 0:38:05 | 0:38:09 | |
so they'd look around and see what was available at the studios | 0:38:09 | 0:38:12 | |
and they had things like mellotrons and various other upright pianos | 0:38:12 | 0:38:16 | |
and organs and celestes and things like that | 0:38:16 | 0:38:19 | |
so again this was just an instrument that was around and it was like, "Ooh, let's try that out | 0:38:19 | 0:38:23 | |
"and see what it sounds like and if it works, it works." | 0:38:23 | 0:38:27 | |
You can hear it quite clearly on Penny Lane, | 0:38:31 | 0:38:35 | |
and also With A Little Help From My Friends. | 0:38:35 | 0:38:38 | |
# What would you think if I sang out of tune? | 0:38:38 | 0:38:42 | |
# Would you stand up and walk out on me? # | 0:38:42 | 0:38:45 | |
I know they all liked her, funnily enough. They all liked Mrs Mills. | 0:38:46 | 0:38:51 | |
They didn't mind she played a different kind of music to them. | 0:38:51 | 0:38:54 | |
They liked her, they quite liked her music. | 0:38:54 | 0:38:58 | |
She was a very popular lady. | 0:38:58 | 0:39:01 | |
She was actually on the very same label as The Beatles - | 0:39:03 | 0:39:05 | |
she was on Parlophone, you know, | 0:39:05 | 0:39:08 | |
and so to have the two of them sort of on the same... under the same banner | 0:39:08 | 0:39:14 | |
is just extraordinary really, when you come to think about it. | 0:39:14 | 0:39:17 | |
That was part, of course, of the breadth of EMI's catalogue. | 0:39:23 | 0:39:26 | |
For example, George Martin, who was the man that signed the Beatles, was recording comedy records. | 0:39:26 | 0:39:31 | |
-# You've got to go out -He's going to go home! -You've got to go out | 0:39:31 | 0:39:35 | |
-# He's going to go home! -You've got to go ah-ha-ha-ha-hoy if you want to go out... # | 0:39:35 | 0:39:40 | |
Those records were hugely successful | 0:39:40 | 0:39:42 | |
and George then took a punt on The Beatles as a pop act. | 0:39:42 | 0:39:46 | |
A new era had started where record companies were just signing up so many different things, | 0:39:46 | 0:39:51 | |
throwing it all out there and seeing what worked, | 0:39:51 | 0:39:55 | |
and most, if not all of the labels, had a real diversity of people on board. | 0:39:55 | 0:40:00 | |
Everything from crooners to rock bands | 0:40:00 | 0:40:03 | |
and some had started to get sort of much heavier bands and things involved as well. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:08 | |
So nobody would have found it strange to have had strange bedfellows like John Lennon and Mrs Mills. | 0:40:08 | 0:40:16 | |
In fact you never know, it might have happened one day. | 0:40:16 | 0:40:20 | |
The other thing to bear in mind is that she would have been cheap! | 0:40:20 | 0:40:26 | |
Because she's her own entertainment - the piano and sometimes she puts in the voices herself, | 0:40:26 | 0:40:33 | |
and even when other people are brought in to join in choruses, | 0:40:33 | 0:40:37 | |
they're clearly not specialised singers. | 0:40:37 | 0:40:39 | |
It's just rounding people up and having a good old party time | 0:40:39 | 0:40:44 | |
so enormous costs were not entailed in recording her albums. | 0:40:44 | 0:40:50 | |
The tradition of popular pianists | 0:40:51 | 0:40:54 | |
goes back to, and just talking about the post-war period, | 0:40:54 | 0:40:58 | |
Charlie Kunz, who played the sort of music that Mrs Mills played. | 0:40:58 | 0:41:02 | |
And on EMI of course there was a very successful pianist called Russ Conway. | 0:41:09 | 0:41:13 | |
He was opposite to Gladys, he never smiled. | 0:41:19 | 0:41:21 | |
He just always looked thoroughly miserable. | 0:41:21 | 0:41:24 | |
And EMI's principal opposition was a woman called Winifred Atwell, a magnificent pianist. | 0:41:29 | 0:41:34 | |
Winifred Atwell was known for pieces such as The Black And White Rag | 0:41:49 | 0:41:53 | |
which was used for the theme tune on Pot Black, which is a snooker programme. | 0:41:53 | 0:41:58 | |
If I play a short extract from that, it's much more... | 0:41:58 | 0:42:01 | |
much more sort of in your face, if you like. | 0:42:01 | 0:42:04 | |
So it was much more fast and kind of erm, you know, complicated, | 0:42:21 | 0:42:25 | |
and people would look at it and be wowed by the technicalities of it. | 0:42:25 | 0:42:28 | |
Mrs Mills tended to put a slightly simpler approach to her music. | 0:42:28 | 0:42:33 | |
Whilst it was very technically demanding, | 0:42:33 | 0:42:35 | |
it had a more simplistic feel to it | 0:42:35 | 0:42:39 | |
and I think that's kind of summed up with things like her record of Good Morning, for example. | 0:42:39 | 0:42:45 | |
The tune really stands out. | 0:42:45 | 0:42:47 | |
It's still obviously technically quite challenging, | 0:42:47 | 0:42:50 | |
but the tune stands out as quite simple and I think that's what was the success | 0:42:50 | 0:42:54 | |
so something like Mrs Mills' arrangement of Good Morning would go: | 0:42:54 | 0:42:57 | |
Glad was always "the honky-tonk pianist" | 0:43:23 | 0:43:26 | |
but you very rarely heard her play ballads or anything floaty | 0:43:26 | 0:43:30 | |
whereas Russ Conway had his concerto albums and his pop albums as well | 0:43:30 | 0:43:36 | |
because he covered quite a lot of the pop hits of the day, | 0:43:36 | 0:43:40 | |
whereas Glad was much more hemmed in to the sing-along style. | 0:43:40 | 0:43:44 | |
There was a feeling when she first started recording that this had been done before by other pianists, | 0:43:44 | 0:43:49 | |
but Mrs Mills actually stands out quite differently from the other people | 0:43:49 | 0:43:54 | |
in the sense that she actually kept her style very true to what she did. | 0:43:54 | 0:44:00 | |
She didn't try to be anything else | 0:44:00 | 0:44:01 | |
whereas some of the other pianists were experimenting with different styles | 0:44:01 | 0:44:05 | |
and trying to change their careers to fit in with trends. | 0:44:05 | 0:44:08 | |
Mrs Mills always remained the same, you know, | 0:44:08 | 0:44:10 | |
she came in and she did what she did best from the start to the end, | 0:44:10 | 0:44:13 | |
and her career remained like that. | 0:44:13 | 0:44:16 | |
She was very welcoming to me because I came on the scene in the early '70s | 0:44:28 | 0:44:35 | |
and I would have been a rival, if you like, | 0:44:35 | 0:44:39 | |
and somebody that might have taken work away from her | 0:44:39 | 0:44:42 | |
because I was the new piano player on the block and everything, | 0:44:42 | 0:44:45 | |
but she was really nice and said, "Oh, there's room for us all in the business. | 0:44:45 | 0:44:49 | |
"You have your audience and I have mine." | 0:44:49 | 0:44:52 | |
She said, "You'll do really, really well for yourself." She was very, very nice and very encouraging. | 0:44:52 | 0:44:57 | |
It seems as though every decade sort of throws up a couple of popular pianists. | 0:45:08 | 0:45:12 | |
In the '50s of course it was Winifred Atwell and Joe Henderson. | 0:45:12 | 0:45:16 | |
'60s, Glad and Russ, | 0:45:16 | 0:45:18 | |
and I came along of course in the next decade. | 0:45:18 | 0:45:21 | |
I came in the '70s along with Richard Clayderman. | 0:45:21 | 0:45:24 | |
And then it kind of stopped after that | 0:45:29 | 0:45:31 | |
because people kind of stopped listening to honky-tonk piano playing. | 0:45:31 | 0:45:35 | |
Her style of playing may be out of fashion now | 0:45:35 | 0:45:39 | |
and her recordings hard to come by, | 0:45:39 | 0:45:41 | |
but there's one thing about Mrs Mills's records that never fails to strike a chord. | 0:45:41 | 0:45:46 | |
If you don't know what she looks like, | 0:45:46 | 0:45:48 | |
you just hear the recordings, | 0:45:48 | 0:45:50 | |
then all I can say is that you're hearing this wonderful piano playing that has got so much life | 0:45:50 | 0:45:56 | |
and fun about it, you just want to know who this person is playing it | 0:45:56 | 0:45:59 | |
because the personality comes across so well just from listening to it | 0:45:59 | 0:46:03 | |
and then suddenly you see a record cover | 0:46:03 | 0:46:05 | |
and you go, "Oh, my goodness, of course, | 0:46:05 | 0:46:07 | |
"it's got to be somebody who's a big fat bubbly person like that with candy floss hair." | 0:46:07 | 0:46:12 | |
I believe a lot of people collect the albums specifically for the sleeves. | 0:46:12 | 0:46:16 | |
Yeah, I can understand people going for the covers, | 0:46:16 | 0:46:19 | |
but they don't go for the records! | 0:46:19 | 0:46:22 | |
I just love Mrs Mills's album covers. | 0:46:23 | 0:46:25 | |
They remind me of a sort of Carry On album cover | 0:46:25 | 0:46:29 | |
from the Carry On films, just having a great time. | 0:46:29 | 0:46:33 | |
I love the one where she looks like she's at the beach | 0:46:33 | 0:46:37 | |
and all kind of posing as if you're having those photos taken on the beach. | 0:46:37 | 0:46:41 | |
It's just great fun, I love them. | 0:46:41 | 0:46:43 | |
This album might appeal to someone who had quite a high threshold for kitsch. | 0:46:43 | 0:46:47 | |
They're kitsch and they're lovely. | 0:46:47 | 0:46:49 | |
At the time we hated them, but now we love them. | 0:46:49 | 0:46:52 | |
Her album covers are fantastic. | 0:46:53 | 0:46:56 | |
I think one of the things about Glad is that she had a terrific sense of humour, | 0:46:56 | 0:47:03 | |
and she was put in all kinds of situations for her album sleeves and went along with every one. | 0:47:03 | 0:47:09 | |
This is probably a little bit cruel | 0:47:09 | 0:47:11 | |
because is the elephant a plump animal like Mrs Mills is? | 0:47:11 | 0:47:15 | |
She wasn't the kind of artist who had an image to maintain for youth | 0:47:16 | 0:47:23 | |
and the coolness, you know, it was just her and her great zest for life | 0:47:23 | 0:47:28 | |
and her music, and it really matched her image. | 0:47:28 | 0:47:31 | |
You know, somebody who was fun to work with. | 0:47:31 | 0:47:33 | |
She played uplifting fun music | 0:47:33 | 0:47:35 | |
and the LP covers were sort of there to match that. | 0:47:35 | 0:47:38 | |
It was blatant in your face. | 0:47:38 | 0:47:41 | |
This is what you're going to get, this is what it sounds like, | 0:47:41 | 0:47:43 | |
and this picture of the people on the front was a picture of you when you play this record. | 0:47:43 | 0:47:48 | |
You'll be all sitting and having a good time, enjoying yourselves and singing along with Gladys. | 0:47:48 | 0:47:54 | |
Party. Party is used all the way. | 0:47:54 | 0:47:57 | |
How many different words and phrases of the party can they use? | 0:47:57 | 0:48:00 | |
Party Mixture, Party Singalong, Party Pieces, Welcome To My Party, | 0:48:00 | 0:48:05 | |
Come To My Party, Mrs Mills' Party, All-time Party Dances. | 0:48:05 | 0:48:11 | |
Gosh, I know rather a lot, don't I? It's a bit scary. | 0:48:11 | 0:48:14 | |
I mean I can't say the album titles had an awful lot of thought given to them. | 0:48:14 | 0:48:19 | |
Mrs Mills Plays The Roaring Twenties. That took a bit of brainstorming. | 0:48:19 | 0:48:25 | |
That's just called Mrs Mills. | 0:48:25 | 0:48:27 | |
Mrs Mills' Knees Up Party. Yep. | 0:48:27 | 0:48:31 | |
She didn't have an equivalent of like Frank Sinatra's suicide albums or anything like that, you know. | 0:48:31 | 0:48:36 | |
There was no kind of "Mrs Mills Plays Songs For The Lonesome" or anything like that. | 0:48:36 | 0:48:41 | |
It was just...parties. | 0:48:41 | 0:48:45 | |
She wasn't averse to making a complete fool of herself, was she? | 0:48:45 | 0:48:49 | |
And that's why people loved her. | 0:48:49 | 0:48:51 | |
Any Time Is Party Time, well that's a truism. | 0:48:51 | 0:48:55 | |
It's just half a dozen shots of Mrs Mills with different hats on. | 0:48:55 | 0:49:00 | |
Nothing more, nothing less. | 0:49:00 | 0:49:01 | |
It's party time, so party means wearing hats, plain and simple. | 0:49:01 | 0:49:06 | |
I don't know what to say about that. Erm... | 0:49:08 | 0:49:11 | |
1967, my goodness. | 0:49:13 | 0:49:15 | |
By then you would have thought they would have put an album cover designer on it | 0:49:15 | 0:49:19 | |
but obviously they were far too ashamed. | 0:49:19 | 0:49:22 | |
Filed under pop instrumental and popular. There you go, popular. | 0:49:22 | 0:49:27 | |
This is 1967, the same year that Sergeant Pepper came out. Amazing. | 0:49:27 | 0:49:32 | |
Also, it's a weird thing for a pianist to call her album. | 0:49:32 | 0:49:38 | |
She's blatantly not...blatantly not playing it with her nose, | 0:49:38 | 0:49:42 | |
so why would you say that? | 0:49:42 | 0:49:44 | |
By the '70s, the corniness really was becoming corny. | 0:49:44 | 0:49:48 | |
It's not even kitsch any more, this cover. | 0:49:48 | 0:49:50 | |
It's just a slightly boring picture of her with penguins. | 0:49:50 | 0:49:53 | |
Also, what kind of party is it? | 0:49:57 | 0:49:59 | |
Is it art? Yes, of course it is. Yes. | 0:50:02 | 0:50:05 | |
Is it good art? That's for you to decide. | 0:50:05 | 0:50:08 | |
Another Flippin' Party. It's like... Unless... | 0:50:08 | 0:50:14 | |
Once again I don't really understand the scenario that's being depicted here. | 0:50:15 | 0:50:20 | |
The one to me that doesn't work - that's not Mrs Mills. | 0:50:20 | 0:50:25 | |
That's a woman about to go in the church and play the organ. No. | 0:50:25 | 0:50:28 | |
In those days when there were 12 inch LPs, | 0:50:28 | 0:50:32 | |
it had to catch your eye as soon as you walked into a record shop. | 0:50:32 | 0:50:35 | |
You had to see it right across the record shop | 0:50:35 | 0:50:37 | |
so, unlike today where you buy your music online or download it or what have you, | 0:50:37 | 0:50:43 | |
but in those days it had to be eye-grabbing, attention-grabbing. | 0:50:43 | 0:50:48 | |
That's what makes a good cover. | 0:50:48 | 0:50:50 | |
You look at all her album covers and every one is a little gem, | 0:50:50 | 0:50:54 | |
but they're all so bad they're good. | 0:50:54 | 0:50:57 | |
There's not one Mrs Mills album you go, "That's not a very good one." | 0:50:57 | 0:51:00 | |
This one's as good as that one, as good as that one. | 0:51:00 | 0:51:03 | |
They're all great...in a bad way. | 0:51:03 | 0:51:07 | |
MRS MILLS: Famous, go on with you! | 0:51:10 | 0:51:12 | |
I now look back and I've had a ball. | 0:51:12 | 0:51:15 | |
Now we're all ready for a little singalong. You'll all join in, won't you? | 0:51:17 | 0:51:21 | |
-You just can't laugh to order. -ERIC MORECAMBE: Think of him, stripped. | 0:51:21 | 0:51:26 | |
Despite changing tastes in music | 0:51:29 | 0:51:32 | |
and an appeal rooted firmly in yesteryear, | 0:51:32 | 0:51:34 | |
Mrs Mills had a recording contract with EMI until the day she died in 1978. | 0:51:34 | 0:51:40 | |
30 years after her death, when old has become vintage | 0:51:44 | 0:51:47 | |
and vintage is the latest thing, is there still a place for Mrs Mills on our iPods? | 0:51:47 | 0:51:52 | |
A new generation of musicians certainly think so. | 0:51:52 | 0:51:57 | |
For me, I like her because she's fun, | 0:51:57 | 0:51:59 | |
and in an age where everything is retro and careful and calculated, | 0:51:59 | 0:52:03 | |
what I like about her, it's proper working class entertainment. | 0:52:03 | 0:52:06 | |
There's no airs and graces, it's just fun. | 0:52:06 | 0:52:08 | |
It's not about the actual music itself, | 0:52:08 | 0:52:11 | |
it's about this is the music that brings families together, | 0:52:11 | 0:52:14 | |
puts people in the street for street parties, you know? | 0:52:14 | 0:52:17 | |
So I think because there's been a lot of that with the Jubilee and everything, | 0:52:17 | 0:52:20 | |
I think people have started to think "Yeah, this is all right. We'll get back to doing this." | 0:52:20 | 0:52:24 | |
It's not about trying to be clever or ironic or pleasing to hipsters | 0:52:24 | 0:52:28 | |
and looking cool, it's about good old-fashioned entertainment. | 0:52:28 | 0:52:31 | |
# Roll out the barrel | 0:52:31 | 0:52:37 | |
# We'll have a barrel of fun | 0:52:37 | 0:52:40 | |
# Roll out the barrel... # | 0:52:41 | 0:52:46 | |
Gladys Mills might be old, | 0:52:46 | 0:52:49 | |
the music might be old she plays, on paper, | 0:52:49 | 0:52:53 | |
and the sound might be old on paper, | 0:52:53 | 0:52:56 | |
but if you got one of her records | 0:52:56 | 0:52:59 | |
and you played it to a 15-year-old kid, that's brand-new to him or her. | 0:52:59 | 0:53:07 | |
They've never heard it before. It's brand spanking new. | 0:53:07 | 0:53:11 | |
Er, and we forget that sometimes. | 0:53:11 | 0:53:14 | |
# Roll out the barrel | 0:53:14 | 0:53:19 | |
# We'll have a barrel of fun... # | 0:53:19 | 0:53:21 | |
I think there's always a place for somebody that can supply, effortlessly, the atmosphere | 0:53:23 | 0:53:29 | |
of good times, good fun, and you know, as we've said, a knees up. | 0:53:29 | 0:53:34 | |
If you go to a pub and someone's playing the piano | 0:53:34 | 0:53:38 | |
and it's all jolly and all that, in a groovy madness sort of way, | 0:53:38 | 0:53:41 | |
it just gives a good feeling to the place. | 0:53:41 | 0:53:45 | |
It gives the whole thing a lift, and that's what Mrs Mills did. She gave everyone a lift. | 0:53:45 | 0:53:48 | |
I was chatting to a 22-year-old guy after the gig, | 0:53:57 | 0:54:01 | |
and he said, "You started and you were playing Roll Out The Barrel | 0:54:01 | 0:54:04 | |
"and all of a sudden I started singing along | 0:54:04 | 0:54:06 | |
"and I have no idea how or why I know the words to that song!" But he absolutely loved it. | 0:54:06 | 0:54:11 | |
You've only got to look at the kind of music that was played | 0:54:20 | 0:54:22 | |
at all the street parties for the Jubilee celebrations | 0:54:22 | 0:54:25 | |
to realise that they are the kind of songs that people want to hear | 0:54:25 | 0:54:30 | |
in that kind of situation | 0:54:30 | 0:54:32 | |
and I can bet that up and down the country there were a lot of ghetto blasters who were playing Mrs Mills. | 0:54:32 | 0:54:41 | |
I think her style of playing is absolutely timeless. | 0:54:43 | 0:54:47 | |
As a pianist myself, if I've played in venues and people say, "Oh, play this song, play that," | 0:54:47 | 0:54:52 | |
and I always play it in the Mrs Mills style, you know, the strong rhythmic left hand, | 0:54:52 | 0:54:56 | |
and people absolutely love it. They love it because they recognise the tunes. | 0:54:56 | 0:55:00 | |
It's got a good beat and they can sing to it | 0:55:00 | 0:55:03 | |
and I think that type of entertainment will never die. | 0:55:03 | 0:55:06 | |
-APPLAUSE -Yoo-hoo! | 0:55:06 | 0:55:10 | |
Now we're all ready for a little sing along and you'll all join in, won't you? | 0:55:10 | 0:55:14 | |
-ALL: Yes! -27 of us? | 0:55:14 | 0:55:16 | |
I know you will because you know them all. So here we go then! | 0:55:16 | 0:55:20 | |
It's hard to know whether Mrs Mills would have survived today. | 0:55:27 | 0:55:31 | |
Erm, she might now, funnily enough, | 0:55:31 | 0:55:35 | |
because there is such openness to all the different kinds of music and people are interested. | 0:55:35 | 0:55:40 | |
10 years ago, not a hope in hell. | 0:55:40 | 0:55:43 | |
There was a woman on Britain's Got Talent on last year, maybe last year? | 0:55:46 | 0:55:53 | |
It was this jolly woman who played like a medley from Grease on the erm... | 0:55:53 | 0:55:59 | |
Grease the musical, rather than the land of my forefathers - on an electric organ. | 0:55:59 | 0:56:05 | |
I suppose there was an element of that but these people never actually win. | 0:56:05 | 0:56:10 | |
Mrs Mills would not be picked up by EMI today, | 0:56:15 | 0:56:18 | |
I'm absolutely sure because I believe there's almost no market at all | 0:56:18 | 0:56:22 | |
for that kind of party sing along music. | 0:56:22 | 0:56:25 | |
That's not to say that a miracle might not happen | 0:56:25 | 0:56:28 | |
and suddenly the public might get an appetite for it. Who knows? | 0:56:28 | 0:56:31 | |
There might be a programme on television, like this very programme. | 0:56:31 | 0:56:34 | |
Could you imagine somebody playing like a Lady Gaga hit | 0:56:38 | 0:56:41 | |
or a Madonna hit or a Take That song in the style of Mrs Mills? | 0:56:41 | 0:56:44 | |
Wouldn't that be fun? Yeah, why not? Do it! | 0:56:44 | 0:56:47 | |
I think that there's something about it that those of us of a certain age | 0:56:55 | 0:57:00 | |
probably have a soft spot for, a fond memory, | 0:57:00 | 0:57:05 | |
and nostalgia has a funny way of showing up again in another form. | 0:57:05 | 0:57:11 | |
But I don't...there'll never be another Glad. | 0:57:11 | 0:57:14 | |
# My old man said follow the van | 0:57:23 | 0:57:28 | |
# And don't dilly dally on the way | 0:57:28 | 0:57:32 | |
# Off went the van with me home packed in it | 0:57:32 | 0:57:37 | |
# I followed on with me old cock linnet | 0:57:37 | 0:57:42 | |
# But I dillied and dallied | 0:57:42 | 0:57:44 | |
# Dallied and I dillied | 0:57:44 | 0:57:47 | |
# Lost me way and don't know where to roam | 0:57:47 | 0:57:52 | |
# Well you can't trust a special like the old time coppers | 0:57:52 | 0:57:56 | |
# When you can't find your way home. # | 0:57:56 | 0:58:00 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:58:11 | 0:58:16 | |
MUSIC: "You Are My Sunshine" | 0:58:18 | 0:58:22 | |
Subtitles by Red Bee Media Ltd | 0:58:27 | 0:58:31 |