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THIS FILM CONTAINS SOME STRONG LANGUAGE | 0:00:03 | 0:00:10 | |
I feel rejuvenated, kind of, because after working on it so long, | 0:00:22 | 0:00:26 | |
it's so much work. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:28 | |
A lot of people, they're used to just seeing the outcome of work. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:33 | |
They never see the side of the work you go through to produce | 0:00:33 | 0:00:36 | |
the outcome, and I feel, you know, rejuvenated and happy, | 0:00:36 | 0:00:42 | |
it's a jubilation, is what it is. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:44 | |
It's like a celebration, it's like, "We're done!" | 0:00:44 | 0:00:47 | |
People were holding on to the fact that Thriller was the biggest selling record in the world. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:08 | |
How are you going to follow up on something like that? | 0:01:08 | 0:01:12 | |
It's almost impossible. Try telling that to Michael Jackson, though. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:15 | |
Thriller is the blockbuster behemoth in the era | 0:01:15 | 0:01:18 | |
of blockbuster artists. You know, that was the era | 0:01:18 | 0:01:21 | |
when you had Madonna, Springsteen, Whitney Houston, | 0:01:21 | 0:01:26 | |
so big stars, big albums, MTV era, music videos are in ascendance. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:32 | |
And that's the signature album of that era. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:34 | |
Thriller sold over 100 million copies worldwide to date. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:38 | |
35 million in the US, over 70 million outside the US, | 0:01:38 | 0:01:43 | |
and that's not even counting singles. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:44 | |
There was a mania around Michael | 0:01:44 | 0:01:47 | |
and Thriller for those three years that was very difficult to | 0:01:47 | 0:01:51 | |
capture again, and you go back to Elvis, or Frank Sinatra, | 0:01:51 | 0:01:56 | |
or the Beatles, even today with Justin Bieber or Lady Gaga, | 0:01:56 | 0:02:00 | |
it's a space and time, the window's only opened so far, | 0:02:00 | 0:02:04 | |
and Thriller captured that. It was magical. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:08 | |
MUSIC: "Want to Be Startin' Somethin'" by Michael Jackson | 0:02:17 | 0:02:21 | |
# Startin' somethin' | 0:02:24 | 0:02:26 | |
# Startin' somethin' | 0:02:26 | 0:02:28 | |
# Startin' somethin' Startin' somethin'... # | 0:02:28 | 0:02:32 | |
Thriller broke every record that existed, and it sold more records | 0:02:32 | 0:02:38 | |
than any other album in the history of the music industry. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:42 | |
To most of us he's just Wacko Jacko, | 0:02:42 | 0:02:44 | |
and if some of the press are to be believed, he bathes in | 0:02:44 | 0:02:49 | |
Perrier water, eats flowers for lunch, and sleeps in an oxygen tent, | 0:02:49 | 0:02:53 | |
often with a chimp, a snake, | 0:02:53 | 0:02:55 | |
and an alien, in a sort of bizarre love triangle. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:59 | |
All that stuff is trash, | 0:02:59 | 0:03:01 | |
and it all comes from the fact that Michael Jackson doesn't do | 0:03:01 | 0:03:04 | |
interviews, and they have nothing else to write about him. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:06 | |
What surprises me sometimes, the people that get distracted | 0:03:06 | 0:03:09 | |
and myopic about Michael's eccentricities, when they listen to | 0:03:09 | 0:03:12 | |
his music and watch his performance, that's like someone saying, | 0:03:12 | 0:03:16 | |
"Hey, there's a cobweb on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel." | 0:03:16 | 0:03:19 | |
This article is from Playboy magazine, January 1985. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:22 | |
It's called Freaks And The American Ideal Of Manhood, by James Baldwin. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:27 | |
"He will not swiftly be forgiven for having turned so many tables, | 0:03:37 | 0:03:40 | |
"for he damn sure grabbed the brass ring." | 0:03:40 | 0:03:42 | |
People tend to reduce the backlash to Michael Jackson to these | 0:03:54 | 0:03:58 | |
eccentricities, but I think that the James Baldwin quote | 0:03:58 | 0:04:01 | |
suggests that it was more than that. Michael Jackson became | 0:04:01 | 0:04:04 | |
one of the most powerful figures in the entertainment industry, and | 0:04:04 | 0:04:07 | |
certainly he was the most powerful African-American to that time. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:11 | |
And in addition to that, 1985, along with John Branca, | 0:04:11 | 0:04:14 | |
he acquires the Beatles catalogue. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:16 | |
When we announced the acquisition of the Beatles' catalogue, | 0:04:16 | 0:04:20 | |
it was almost a feeling that Michael didn't have the right | 0:04:20 | 0:04:23 | |
also to be a savvy businessmen. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:26 | |
It was a misconception that Michael went behind Paul McCartney's back | 0:04:26 | 0:04:29 | |
to bid on the catalogue, but that was absolutely not the case. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:33 | |
I remember when he bought the Beatles' catalogue. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:36 | |
He came to me and he said they want whatever it was at that time, | 0:04:36 | 0:04:40 | |
52 million, it sounds like too much money. He said, "I think you're wrong." | 0:04:40 | 0:04:44 | |
A lot of those Beatles' songs are considered sacred songs by people. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:47 | |
They are really just more than pop songs on the radio, | 0:04:47 | 0:04:49 | |
they meant something in their lives beyond almost any songs they heard. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:54 | |
I mean, Sergeant Pepper, particularly right? | 0:04:54 | 0:04:57 | |
And for him to take that catalogue and use it the way he's used it, | 0:04:57 | 0:05:01 | |
it's going to have some kind of backlash. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:03 | |
After Thriller, you know, Michael had a few extra dollars to invest, | 0:05:03 | 0:05:08 | |
and we had an investment committee, and we used to look at | 0:05:08 | 0:05:13 | |
all sorts of possible deals for Michael, | 0:05:13 | 0:05:15 | |
and he never had interest in buildings, tax shelters, | 0:05:15 | 0:05:18 | |
the kinds of things that other people | 0:05:18 | 0:05:20 | |
were interested in at the time. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:22 | |
One day Michael came to me and he said, | 0:05:22 | 0:05:23 | |
"I saw Paul McCartney's song catalogue. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:25 | |
"He showed it to me. Do you think you can help me buy copyrights?" | 0:05:25 | 0:05:29 | |
And I said, "Absolutely, Michael." | 0:05:29 | 0:05:31 | |
We bought a couple Dion & The Belmont's songs, | 0:05:31 | 0:05:34 | |
Runaround Sue and The Wanderer. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:35 | |
Then we bought the Sly & The Family Stone catalogue, | 0:05:35 | 0:05:38 | |
which was a major acquisition for Michael. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:40 | |
Michael's 28 years old now. He's not a baby dumpling now. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:45 | |
He's grown, he's listened, he's going up, | 0:05:47 | 0:05:50 | |
and those are the kinds of things he wants to say now. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:53 | |
I feel the stretches are there, | 0:05:54 | 0:05:55 | |
but they don't feel like they've been conscious stretches. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:58 | |
I think that things have just occurred along the way to say that | 0:05:58 | 0:06:01 | |
this is the way I feel like thinking, | 0:06:01 | 0:06:04 | |
and I feel like feeling at this time. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:06 | |
And one thing we've really tried not to do, to sit down and worry about | 0:06:06 | 0:06:12 | |
competing with Thriller, | 0:06:12 | 0:06:14 | |
because that's really self-destructive, you know. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:17 | |
And it's dishonest. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:18 | |
He would always write with a red Sharpie | 0:06:18 | 0:06:22 | |
on his mirrors in his rooms, wherever he was. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:26 | |
He would write 100 million albums sold for Bad, to remind him, | 0:06:26 | 0:06:31 | |
when he would stand in front of the mirror, brushing his teeth, | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
brushing his hair, doing himself up, that that was his goal. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:37 | |
I remember sitting on Michael's mirror, | 0:06:37 | 0:06:39 | |
he wrote the big note, 100 million albums. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:43 | |
And that was a goal that he set for himself, but I remember one time, | 0:06:43 | 0:06:47 | |
I was in Hong Kong with Michael, and it was in between the records, | 0:06:47 | 0:06:52 | |
and I said, "you know, Mike, there's a lot of pressure. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:56 | |
"Maybe you should think, | 0:06:56 | 0:06:59 | |
"why not do an album of cover songs that inspired you? | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
"Jackie Wilson, James Brown, just going little left of centre, | 0:07:02 | 0:07:06 | |
"so you don't feel like you have to compete with yourself." | 0:07:06 | 0:07:10 | |
And he looked at me like I was from Mars. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:13 | |
Because Michael thrived on that pressure, | 0:07:13 | 0:07:15 | |
he thrived on pushing himself, and everybody else around him. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:19 | |
If this record doesn't do as well as Thriller, and doesn't win | 0:07:19 | 0:07:23 | |
a whole bunch of Grammy awards, he's going to be very unhappy. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:26 | |
He would call during the Thriller and the Bad days. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:28 | |
"My record's not number one. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:30 | |
"My record's not number one, what are we going to do?" | 0:07:30 | 0:07:33 | |
I said, "Michael, we're going to go to sleep, we're going to get up tomorrow, | 0:07:33 | 0:07:36 | |
"and we're going to work on getting you a number one." | 0:07:36 | 0:07:39 | |
Michael didn't have limits, Michael thought bigger than anyone. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:43 | |
Off The Wall was a huge hit, and when he told people after | 0:07:43 | 0:07:46 | |
that album, "I'm going to follow this up with an album that's going | 0:07:46 | 0:07:49 | |
"to sell twice as much as Off The Wall, people didn't believe him." And he did it. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:53 | |
And so with Bad, he said, "OK, I'm going to do it again." | 0:07:53 | 0:07:55 | |
Bad has the special distinction. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:57 | |
It's the first album in history to generate five consecutive | 0:07:57 | 0:08:00 | |
number one pop singles, and that record was only recently | 0:08:00 | 0:08:03 | |
tied by Katy Perry, with her Teenage Dream album. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:05 | |
It started with I Just Can't Stop Loving You, in the summer of 1987. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:09 | |
-Bad. -Then you had The Way You Make Me Feel. -Man In The Mirror. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:12 | |
And finally, Dirty Diana. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:14 | |
It's a testament to his swag, really, that he | 0:08:14 | 0:08:19 | |
even made another record after Thriller. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:22 | |
It did take in five years. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:24 | |
I was 16 years old when the Bad album came out. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:26 | |
I remember being highly obsessed with every aspect of that album. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:32 | |
We were just like, "What is this going to be?" | 0:08:32 | 0:08:35 | |
Because this was a humongous deal. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:37 | |
I guess in some way or another, my education of the industry, | 0:08:37 | 0:08:42 | |
and those inside it and outside it really starts with that record. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:46 | |
The original album title was Smooth Criminal. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:49 | |
That was the original name of the album, | 0:08:49 | 0:08:51 | |
and again, Michael called me up, and said this is what he wants to do. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:55 | |
A couple of days later I got a call | 0:08:55 | 0:08:58 | |
from Quincy Jones, "Larry, I got a problem with the album title." | 0:08:58 | 0:09:02 | |
I go, "Why? It's kind of cool, it's edgy, it's kind of cool." | 0:09:02 | 0:09:05 | |
He says, "I understand Larry, but I will not allow this album to be called Smooth Criminal." | 0:09:05 | 0:09:10 | |
He felt that the connotation was inappropriate at this time. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:12 | |
So I said, "Let me call Walter, I'll get back to you." | 0:09:12 | 0:09:15 | |
Because Walter Yetnikoff was very involved with this project. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:18 | |
And Walter says, "I don't care what you call it, just put it out!" | 0:09:18 | 0:09:21 | |
This was the most published music image of the year. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:25 | |
We prepared for it for three days. We were shooting the video in the subway in New York. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:28 | |
Every day after shooting, we would go, "OK, let's do it." | 0:09:28 | 0:09:31 | |
"I'm tired. I got something to do." Next day. OK. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:34 | |
"No, no, no, no, I'm tired." OK, last day, Frank says, | 0:09:34 | 0:09:37 | |
"Mike, he's been sitting here for three days, you got to take this picture." | 0:09:37 | 0:09:41 | |
"OK, Frank." Three rolls of 12 shots later he goes, "That's enough." | 0:09:41 | 0:09:46 | |
And this is what we came up with. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:47 | |
There was an album cover shot, | 0:09:47 | 0:09:49 | |
and it was done in a very '30s style. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:55 | |
It was a copy of a Vogue photograph of Gloria Swanson that had | 0:09:55 | 0:10:00 | |
been shot back in the '30s. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:02 | |
And they took a piece of lace, and they stuck it | 0:10:02 | 0:10:06 | |
in front of the camera, and they shot through the lace, | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
Michael's face, it was just a headshot, so it looked like | 0:10:09 | 0:10:12 | |
Michael was wearing a veil, or a piece of lace on his face. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:15 | |
He did have a veil, and I said "I'm not putting out an album cover | 0:10:15 | 0:10:18 | |
"with that all over his face." | 0:10:18 | 0:10:19 | |
He called me up, and he went, "That is not the album cover!" | 0:10:19 | 0:10:23 | |
We wanted a tough album. We wanted a tough image, anyway. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:27 | |
You know, because, | 0:10:27 | 0:10:29 | |
because it's important that you keep trying to change, change up. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:32 | |
And this is the one where I'd asked him to write all the tunes. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
This room was built for Michael. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:37 | |
This studio D in Westlake | 0:10:37 | 0:10:39 | |
was built for Michael Jackson. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:41 | |
For specifically the Bad record. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:43 | |
I was in this big room here, we had Phillinganes in the other room, | 0:10:43 | 0:10:47 | |
E, I believe it was, doing all the synth parts. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:49 | |
We had Jerry Hey and the other guys doing other arrangements | 0:10:49 | 0:10:52 | |
in the other rooms. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:53 | |
We had this whole building locked up. Locked out! | 0:10:53 | 0:10:56 | |
Everybody's working on different tunes on the same record. | 0:10:56 | 0:10:59 | |
Well, the Bad song really sets up the entire album, | 0:10:59 | 0:11:03 | |
because this is a song in which Michael's addressing | 0:11:03 | 0:11:06 | |
the huge backlash that had taken place since thriller. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:09 | |
The whole world has to answer right now, "Who's bad?" | 0:11:09 | 0:11:12 | |
Well... It is quite different from anything I've ever recorded, | 0:11:12 | 0:11:17 | |
or I've ever written. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:19 | |
It's a bold statement to say, but I mean it in all goodwill. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:25 | |
You know, so don't take it too seriously. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:27 | |
I'm saying, it's like a way of saying you're cool, you're all right, | 0:11:27 | 0:11:32 | |
you're tough. I'm not saying I'm like criminally bad. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:36 | |
Of course, that's how people will take it. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:38 | |
It's a bold statement to make. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:42 | |
Opening line is, "Your butt is mine," that's extremely... | 0:11:42 | 0:11:45 | |
You know, like, let's get it on! | 0:11:45 | 0:11:47 | |
So, I wanted to do a duet with Prince, | 0:11:47 | 0:11:49 | |
and have the video with him coming to kick Michael's ass. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:52 | |
The rivalry between the two of them, between Prince and Michael, | 0:11:52 | 0:11:56 | |
for real music lovers at that time, and real music fans, | 0:11:56 | 0:12:00 | |
that's a rivalry that is unmatched, | 0:12:00 | 0:12:02 | |
and will go unmatched for many, many years. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:05 | |
Michael impacted dances. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:08 | |
Nobody can touch him dancing. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:10 | |
When I try to dance, I'd try, not to mimic him, | 0:12:10 | 0:12:13 | |
but I try to, you know, not let him down, in a way. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:17 | |
Prince impacted musicians. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:19 | |
Michael Jackson and Prince were the polarising figures of the '80s. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:24 | |
Are you a Michael fan or a Prince than? | 0:12:24 | 0:12:27 | |
You can't do that! You know why? Because I think that Michael | 0:12:27 | 0:12:32 | |
and Prince came into our lives at a different point. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:35 | |
They're synonymous to me, they're equal. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:37 | |
Michael and Prince are our heroes, they're our musical heroes. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:41 | |
My annual Michael Jackson versus Prince party, | 0:12:41 | 0:12:45 | |
that's something I've been doing for a while, | 0:12:45 | 0:12:48 | |
really just to pay homage and tribute to those two artists. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:51 | |
I'm Michael Jordan, Mike Tyson, Michael Jackson. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:55 | |
I met Michael once at, ironically enough, a Prince concert. | 0:12:55 | 0:13:02 | |
I was performing with Prince in Vegas. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:04 | |
After the show was over was when I met him backstage. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:07 | |
I thought that they had nemeses all these years, | 0:13:07 | 0:13:09 | |
but it turns out that Mike was a pretty big fan of Prince as well. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:13 | |
So Michael said, | 0:13:13 | 0:13:15 | |
"Branca, set up a meeting. I want Prince to come over." | 0:13:15 | 0:13:17 | |
The meeting took place at Hayvenhurst, 4641 Hayvenhurst. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:22 | |
And Bob Cavallo went over with Prince... | 0:13:22 | 0:13:24 | |
So, you actually met then? | 0:13:24 | 0:13:26 | |
They met in Michael's study, and I recall, I wasn't there that night, | 0:13:26 | 0:13:30 | |
but I remember, I was told the next day, it was not a happy meeting. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:35 | |
Apparently Prince brought over some sort of voodoo box, and Michael | 0:13:35 | 0:13:40 | |
was convinced that Prince was trying to cast a spell on him. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:44 | |
If Quincy has gone to Prince and said, "Write a song for you | 0:13:44 | 0:13:47 | |
and Michael to do," that song would have gotten recorded. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:50 | |
Not by Michael! | 0:13:50 | 0:13:52 | |
But Michael wouldn't have done it! | 0:13:52 | 0:13:54 | |
Now Prince wasn't doing no song with Michael Jackson. All right? | 0:13:57 | 0:14:01 | |
That was a very optimistic view that he would get down... | 0:14:01 | 0:14:04 | |
At that point, in the Sign O' The Times era, he's rolling. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:08 | |
Oh, the cool thing about playing on the title track, Bad, | 0:14:08 | 0:14:12 | |
was I shared a solo with Jimmy Smith. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:16 | |
Jimmy Smith played on that, jazz organist, played on that. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:20 | |
He was great. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:21 | |
That was the groove, you know. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:27 | |
And then Jimmy did this organ solo on top of that. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:31 | |
And here he comes... | 0:14:31 | 0:14:33 | |
ORGAN SOLO | 0:14:33 | 0:14:37 | |
And here I come after that. Watch out! | 0:14:41 | 0:14:44 | |
By '86 and '87, hip-hop is now becoming the dominant thread | 0:14:51 | 0:14:56 | |
in a lot of aspects of American pop culture. | 0:14:56 | 0:14:59 | |
Michael's responding to that to some degree with the Bad video, | 0:14:59 | 0:15:02 | |
and imaging of Bad, but it's done in a Michael Jackson way. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:05 | |
The first step that was taken was to bring in Martin Scorsese. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:09 | |
Martin Scorsese to direct the first video from the album, and | 0:15:11 | 0:15:15 | |
Michael never called them videos, it was the short film from the album. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:18 | |
You'd never hear him say "music video". | 0:15:18 | 0:15:20 | |
"I'm doing short films." | 0:15:20 | 0:15:22 | |
He wanted people not just to hear the music, but see it. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:25 | |
We had a meeting with Quincy and Michael in Los Angeles, | 0:15:25 | 0:15:28 | |
and I found that really nobody had... They were wide open to ideas. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:32 | |
Nobody had ideas what kind of story we could make up, | 0:15:32 | 0:15:36 | |
what kind of issue we could deal with. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:39 | |
And so I suggested that I hire Richard Price, | 0:15:39 | 0:15:41 | |
who just wrote Colour of Money for me to do the script. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:44 | |
I just thought, Michael Jackson and Marty Scorsese, that's way too... | 0:15:44 | 0:15:50 | |
That's way too bizarre for words, absolutely I will do it. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:54 | |
If it's to be anything, it should be something very, | 0:15:54 | 0:15:57 | |
very different from what he's done before, and that means | 0:15:57 | 0:15:59 | |
a dramatic piece, and something with a lot of style, a lot of grit to it. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:06 | |
I don't remember exactly who said this, but he said Michael | 0:16:06 | 0:16:10 | |
wanted to make a video to show the brothers he's down. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:14 | |
So he goes to the, you know, the Italian asthmatic, who goes | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
to the Jewish asthmatic, and we're going to make Michael a homie! | 0:16:17 | 0:16:21 | |
We gave him these three ideas. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:22 | |
Michael and I both loved the one called Pressure - | 0:16:22 | 0:16:25 | |
that was the working title of this one. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:27 | |
About peer pressure. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:30 | |
I had just read this article that a friend of mine, | 0:16:30 | 0:16:32 | |
Robert Sam Anson, had written about Edmund Perry. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:35 | |
Within the hour, police revealed more information about the death | 0:16:35 | 0:16:38 | |
of a young man from Harlem. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:39 | |
He had graduated with honours from an exclusive New England prep school. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:43 | |
Edmund Perry was killed by a police bullet on Morningside Drive. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:46 | |
They had read stories like this before, too many of them. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:50 | |
Black kid, 17, from Harlem, poor, | 0:16:50 | 0:16:53 | |
with another black youth, tries to rob a white man, | 0:16:53 | 0:16:56 | |
who turns out to be a plain-clothes cop. | 0:16:56 | 0:16:58 | |
Edmund Perry was a kid from Harlem. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:01 | |
He and his brother, Jonah, had both gone to prep schools, | 0:17:01 | 0:17:05 | |
said they were like, not privileged, but they were exposed to privilege. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:10 | |
And this was a kid that was very much kind of dealing with | 0:17:10 | 0:17:14 | |
what is becoming a more common kind of internal conflict | 0:17:14 | 0:17:19 | |
among black kids who were put in isolated environments... | 0:17:19 | 0:17:23 | |
I want to say before you go, you know, you did a real good job this term. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:27 | |
Thanks. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:28 | |
..and are asked in that passage | 0:17:28 | 0:17:30 | |
to let go of the culture that spawned him. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:33 | |
Yo, the black is back, my man... | 0:17:34 | 0:17:36 | |
So, I just ran off, and I wrote this thing, and I rate in like two days. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:41 | |
You know, it's only ten pages, and Marty thought it was great. | 0:17:41 | 0:17:45 | |
Oh, yeah. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:46 | |
He did ask me, | 0:17:48 | 0:17:49 | |
he took me aside, and said, "Do people live here?" | 0:17:49 | 0:17:54 | |
I said, "Oh, yeah, this is a good one, | 0:17:54 | 0:17:57 | |
"because we went to some others, and I was pretty..." | 0:17:57 | 0:18:00 | |
-Was he scared? -A little bit, I think. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:02 | |
For him, I thought, it was a shock to see that. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:07 | |
Folks, I think we better go through a walk, man. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:11 | |
How did I get cast in this? | 0:18:11 | 0:18:12 | |
Audition, you know, we all had to audition. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:16 | |
Were there a lot of people? | 0:18:16 | 0:18:18 | |
It was quite a few guys, I don't know exactly how many. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:20 | |
Wesley came in, there was no... Yeah, there was no question. | 0:18:20 | 0:18:27 | |
And the guys I went in with, | 0:18:27 | 0:18:28 | |
they all approached the characters kind of B-boy-ish. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:34 | |
You know, characteristic of B-boys, with the, "Yo, man, yeah." | 0:18:34 | 0:18:38 | |
This type of thing. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:39 | |
And that's not my particular style, so I went the opposite direction | 0:18:39 | 0:18:43 | |
of what they did, and I played it very, very subtle. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:46 | |
Yo, college? What's your major, man? | 0:18:46 | 0:18:50 | |
This is high school, there ain't no majors. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:52 | |
Then what's your minor? | 0:18:53 | 0:18:54 | |
Wesley Snipes, his appearance in a video was probably one of | 0:18:55 | 0:19:00 | |
the most notable acting debuts, | 0:19:00 | 0:19:03 | |
(and the fact that he made his mark known in a music video, | 0:19:03 | 0:19:06 | |
everyone remembered Wesley Snipes after that moment. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:11 | |
Are you bad? | 0:19:11 | 0:19:12 | |
Or is that what they teach you up in that little sissy school of yours? | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
How to forget who your friends are. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:19 | |
Let me tell you something, I don't care what | 0:19:19 | 0:19:21 | |
they teach you up there, you either down, or you ain't down. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:23 | |
And one of the things that I found was this piece of paper, | 0:19:23 | 0:19:29 | |
which he wrote "Bad Film" on there. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:32 | |
And it's titled, "Today's Motto." | 0:19:32 | 0:19:35 | |
"Let nothing be a take unless I'm extremely satisfied, | 0:19:35 | 0:19:39 | |
"unless I felt it in my soul." | 0:19:39 | 0:19:42 | |
You want to see who's bad? | 0:19:42 | 0:19:44 | |
You want to see who's bad? Well, come on, come on, let's do it. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:48 | |
Let's see who's bad, man. Come on. Come on! Let's go. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:51 | |
As we're putting the piece together, | 0:19:52 | 0:19:54 | |
working on the choreography, | 0:19:54 | 0:19:56 | |
it's towards the middle of it that they say, "We have a location," | 0:19:56 | 0:19:59 | |
so they took us to Brooklyn, to the Hoyt-Schermerhorn subway station. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:03 | |
There is a place where the train is actually running under us. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:07 | |
There's a midsection, that's the place we went to. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:11 | |
The first time we walked in, we were with Martin Scorsese, Quincy Jones, | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
myself and Michael, and we're walking through there, | 0:20:14 | 0:20:17 | |
and Michael goes, "Wow, this is great. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:21 | |
"Yeah, it looks real. Look, there's even some pee stains over there. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
"Wow, it's really nasty, yeah, that's great." | 0:20:24 | 0:20:26 | |
Well, even if we catch them with the last two steps. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:30 | |
No, that's OK. That's OK. Oh, sure, because he's hiding as well. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:33 | |
It's ideal if we don't see it. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:35 | |
And then we come back, and he's hiding. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:37 | |
He's frozen again, that would be great if we could do that. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:39 | |
FOOTSTEPS | 0:20:45 | 0:20:48 | |
-That move is in Taxi Driver. -Yeah, I like... Yeah, I like that. | 0:20:57 | 0:21:02 | |
Right, let's go again, same thing. Same thing. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:07 | |
Speak. 19, Kansas, take five. And action. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:14 | |
Give me a quarter. Run, move, go! Run! | 0:21:14 | 0:21:19 | |
Cut. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:22 | |
I mean, there was a moment there with the old man, | 0:21:22 | 0:21:24 | |
when he said, "Gimme a quarter." | 0:21:24 | 0:21:25 | |
Give me a quarter. Run! Go! Run! | 0:21:25 | 0:21:30 | |
And the guy... Something happened, sort of hurt his arm a little bit. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:34 | |
-No, no, it's all right. It's all right. -What can we do? | 0:21:34 | 0:21:36 | |
We're going to take care of it. I promise you it won't happen. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:39 | |
No, please, do it in the same way, I mean, it has to be done in that way. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:42 | |
The only time Michael really became, I think, very, | 0:21:42 | 0:21:45 | |
very concerned was at that moment, where he begged me, | 0:21:45 | 0:21:48 | |
"Please don't do another take on the guy. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:49 | |
"I didn't want to hurt anybody." I mean, really begged me. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:53 | |
I said, "No, no, no, it's all right. Actually it's all very good." | 0:21:53 | 0:21:56 | |
"Please, I beg you." It was true, we did have it, so... | 0:21:56 | 0:21:59 | |
You know, I went with that. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:02 | |
That's what I want to see. It's going to be like this. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:05 | |
-He can't touch me though. -No. -He can't touch me. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:08 | |
OK, so just run through the lines this way. | 0:22:08 | 0:22:11 | |
That's the way it's going down. Huh? That's it? | 0:22:11 | 0:22:14 | |
Well, you ain't down with us! You ain't bad, you ain't bad at all. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:18 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:22:25 | 0:22:28 | |
You know, Wesley's talking to him, and Wesley's got this fierce | 0:22:31 | 0:22:34 | |
kind of profile and everything like that, and it's almost like | 0:22:34 | 0:22:37 | |
I felt scared from Michael, like he was going to get eaten. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:40 | |
I was so happy to see Michael Jackson being tough. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:45 | |
I was so happy to see him in what seemed like regular surroundings. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:50 | |
I think I was a little bit caught off guard, because it was | 0:22:50 | 0:22:54 | |
like Michael talking, Michael sort of being very rough, a little bit. | 0:22:54 | 0:23:00 | |
I don't know if he was trying to reaffirm his connection with | 0:23:00 | 0:23:03 | |
the black community, or what he was trying to do, but it was successful. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:08 | |
It's one shot. Whatever is best for him. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:10 | |
Whatever is good to him at this point, it's only one shot. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:13 | |
The thing is also, when he drops down into it. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:15 | |
And everybody starts surrounding him. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:17 | |
If we drop down in front of the three guys the opposite way, | 0:23:17 | 0:23:20 | |
the three guys will be in the way of the camera. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:22 | |
What I didn't realise is that, you know, | 0:23:23 | 0:23:26 | |
I have this like earnest social drama, and all of a sudden it's | 0:23:26 | 0:23:30 | |
going to end in this choreographed big song, and it was like, "Huh?" | 0:23:30 | 0:23:35 | |
Oh, I remember this, yeah. | 0:23:57 | 0:23:58 | |
Now, the thing is... Oh, this is pretty much, you know... | 0:24:02 | 0:24:05 | |
What are you going to do, dance us to death? I think he says... | 0:24:05 | 0:24:09 | |
What, y'all going to dance us to death? | 0:24:09 | 0:24:10 | |
You got to be kidding me. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:13 | |
He probably was going to dance them to death. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:21 | |
Because you ain't saying nothing here. Raise up. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:29 | |
I think the Bad moment, outfit wise, | 0:24:29 | 0:24:33 | |
was far more influential than the Thriller moment. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:37 | |
Like, the Thriller moment might have been more iconic, | 0:24:37 | 0:24:41 | |
but Bad was more influential. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:42 | |
So, I like almost dress like that today. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:44 | |
When everybody's out, they're all staring, and the pipe breaks. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:47 | |
-Yeah, right. -Everybody looks. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:49 | |
So, what's up? | 0:24:54 | 0:24:55 | |
We're going to hold that a while. | 0:24:57 | 0:24:59 | |
Michael was very interested in incorporating body popping | 0:25:10 | 0:25:13 | |
into his videos. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:14 | |
So, he feels like the dancers themselves know more | 0:25:16 | 0:25:20 | |
about what we're doing, so he chose to use the street dancers | 0:25:20 | 0:25:24 | |
to co-choreograph the videos with him. | 0:25:24 | 0:25:26 | |
# I'm giving you on count of three | 0:25:26 | 0:25:30 | |
# To show your stuff or let it be... # | 0:25:30 | 0:25:32 | |
Now hit those little things like - boom! | 0:25:32 | 0:25:34 | |
Do the little moves, those little up rhythms. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:37 | |
He would work with the dancers in the daytime, but me and Casper | 0:25:37 | 0:25:40 | |
would go up to the Helmsley Palace hotel and work with Michael | 0:25:40 | 0:25:43 | |
at night, and we'd be working to 2.30, 3 in the morning. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:45 | |
And, you know, we'd take turns creating different things, | 0:25:45 | 0:25:48 | |
making different things happen, and then he'd get in there, | 0:25:48 | 0:25:52 | |
and he do his thing, I'd get in to do my thing, | 0:25:52 | 0:25:54 | |
and we would take turns doing that. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:56 | |
It wasn't like a dance-off, like competing against each other, | 0:25:56 | 0:25:59 | |
but like pushing each other, inspiring each other, | 0:25:59 | 0:26:02 | |
and pushing each other to the next limit. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:04 | |
So at first it was myself and Casper and Michael only, | 0:26:04 | 0:26:07 | |
then after I got hold of Gregg Burge, | 0:26:07 | 0:26:10 | |
and Gregg Burge started coming over to the rehearsals with us | 0:26:10 | 0:26:13 | |
as well. And we were just gelling, just coming up with ideas, | 0:26:13 | 0:26:17 | |
so there was nothing constructive yet. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:19 | |
# You know I'm bad, I'm bad Come on... # | 0:26:19 | 0:26:22 | |
-I know people made a lot of, "What's a shamone?" -Shamone. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:27 | |
Shamone is basically his hat nod to Mavis Staples. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:30 | |
# Shamone, shamone. # | 0:26:30 | 0:26:34 | |
He could have went with James Brown, and being like, "Lookee here," | 0:26:34 | 0:26:38 | |
or Marvin Gaye and "Hoooo!" | 0:26:38 | 0:26:40 | |
I love the fact that he played that homage to one of | 0:26:40 | 0:26:44 | |
the under-championed soul singers of her day. | 0:26:44 | 0:26:46 | |
# Shamone, shamone, shamone... # | 0:26:46 | 0:26:49 | |
Michael has this scooting move, where he scooting forward. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:53 | |
That's a Michael signature step. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:56 | |
I said, "Michael, that has never been done in a group before. | 0:26:56 | 0:26:59 | |
"Could you imagine if all of us | 0:26:59 | 0:27:01 | |
"were scooting across the camera like that?" | 0:27:01 | 0:27:03 | |
So now it's looking like a train, "chuka-chuka-chuka-chuka..." | 0:27:03 | 0:27:06 | |
with a group of us doing it. And it worked out beautifully. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:10 | |
# You're throwing stones to hide your hands | 0:27:10 | 0:27:13 | |
# Well, they say the sky's the limit | 0:27:13 | 0:27:15 | |
# And to me that's really true | 0:27:15 | 0:27:17 | |
# And my friends you have seen nothing | 0:27:17 | 0:27:19 | |
# Just wait till I get through | 0:27:19 | 0:27:21 | |
# Because I'm bad, I'm bad Shamone... # | 0:27:21 | 0:27:24 | |
Were you familiar with the Michael Jackson "grab the crotch"? | 0:27:25 | 0:27:29 | |
No, I was not familiar with that at all! | 0:27:29 | 0:27:31 | |
It's all through the whole piece. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:33 | |
The whole thing, it's all throughout. | 0:27:33 | 0:27:34 | |
Within the moves, it's right, I mean, what can I say? | 0:27:34 | 0:27:37 | |
-The way he's moving. -But it was a surprise, though, right? | 0:27:37 | 0:27:40 | |
Yes, it was, yeah. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:41 | |
# You know I'm bad, I'm bad | 0:27:41 | 0:27:44 | |
# You know it | 0:27:44 | 0:27:46 | |
# You know I'm bad, I'm bad | 0:27:46 | 0:27:48 | |
# You know it, you know... # | 0:27:48 | 0:27:50 | |
He took what was formatted as a choreography, | 0:27:50 | 0:27:56 | |
and he learned it to the point where he could break out of it when | 0:27:56 | 0:27:59 | |
he wanted to, and get right back into it, without skipping a beat. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:03 | |
Michael would just spin and snap out of it, and grab himself, "Hooooo!" | 0:28:05 | 0:28:09 | |
We never knew any of this was going to happen, | 0:28:11 | 0:28:14 | |
and that goes to show you his genius. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:15 | |
What makes one go out and mug a person? | 0:28:15 | 0:28:18 | |
I mean, there's so much involved in a person who does that. | 0:28:18 | 0:28:21 | |
Insecurities, frustration, resentment, all of these things. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:27 | |
In one movement, I had him lifting the leg up, with that feeling | 0:28:30 | 0:28:34 | |
of wanting to fly, like we all want to do, we want to fly, and the | 0:28:34 | 0:28:37 | |
next movement, it's just anger, and the next movement, its tenderness. | 0:28:37 | 0:28:42 | |
Michael's seen West Side Story. | 0:28:42 | 0:28:44 | |
Michael knows Jerome Robbins' choreography, I mean, I know | 0:28:44 | 0:28:47 | |
he does, because that's where that looked like it came from, to me. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:51 | |
Gregg, he contributed, because he's a technical dancer, you know, | 0:28:51 | 0:28:55 | |
he's into jazz, and stuff like that, so all the really | 0:28:55 | 0:28:58 | |
West Side Story-looking stuff is what Gregg put into the piece. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:00 | |
I tried to keep some street stuff in it. | 0:29:00 | 0:29:03 | |
HE GRUNTS | 0:29:03 | 0:29:05 | |
You see those type of moves in there. | 0:29:05 | 0:29:07 | |
# You know I'm bad, I'm bad | 0:29:09 | 0:29:12 | |
# Shamone | 0:29:12 | 0:29:13 | |
# You know I'm bad, I'm bad... # | 0:29:13 | 0:29:15 | |
-The crane down... -Oh, yeah. | 0:29:15 | 0:29:17 | |
Low ceiling, I mean, the ceiling was low. | 0:29:17 | 0:29:19 | |
# You know, you know Come on | 0:29:21 | 0:29:23 | |
# And the whole world has to answer right now | 0:29:23 | 0:29:25 | |
# When I tell you once again... # | 0:29:25 | 0:29:27 | |
-There it is. -Oh, my God! | 0:29:27 | 0:29:29 | |
I get that it wasn't funny, but it seemed like a good idea at the time. | 0:29:29 | 0:29:32 | |
Something my daughter, when she saw this, she said, | 0:29:32 | 0:29:35 | |
"Dad, you were in jail?" I said, "No, no, no, no!" | 0:29:35 | 0:29:38 | |
It was my intention to make this dance move throughout this | 0:29:38 | 0:29:41 | |
subway, I wanted things to move. | 0:29:41 | 0:29:43 | |
The big issue of course, ultimately, was for such a master of dancing, | 0:29:45 | 0:29:49 | |
the concern was to show from head to toe. | 0:29:49 | 0:29:51 | |
I had to try and convince him | 0:29:51 | 0:29:52 | |
that I think the camera moves could work all together. | 0:29:52 | 0:29:56 | |
# And the whole world has to answer right now | 0:29:56 | 0:29:59 | |
# When I tell you once again Who's bad? # | 0:29:59 | 0:30:02 | |
It does come back at the end to a reality in which they split. | 0:30:02 | 0:30:06 | |
And of course, it's all summed up, which is an interesting idea, | 0:30:06 | 0:30:09 | |
that Jackson came up with, to do what he calls a breakdown. | 0:30:09 | 0:30:13 | |
A breakdown which turned out to be in the tradition of a preacher, | 0:30:13 | 0:30:16 | |
doing a sermon. And we did that three cameras, live. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:20 | |
And Michael goes, "OK, guys, I want you to just follow me." | 0:30:22 | 0:30:25 | |
I think I had to be one of the only singers in the group, | 0:30:25 | 0:30:27 | |
because a lot of the guys were studying dance. | 0:30:27 | 0:30:29 | |
-Who's bad? ALL: -Who's bad? | 0:30:29 | 0:30:31 | |
-Who's bad? ALL: -Who's bad? | 0:30:31 | 0:30:33 | |
Oh, my God, it was church, it was James Brown. | 0:30:34 | 0:30:38 | |
If any place reaffirmed him, or if he was trying to reaffirm to | 0:30:38 | 0:30:41 | |
people who he was, and where his roots were... | 0:30:41 | 0:30:44 | |
HE SCREAMS FOLLOWED BY BACKING SINGERS | 0:30:44 | 0:30:46 | |
And the soulfulness that he has, and frankly, | 0:30:46 | 0:30:49 | |
the blackness that he was, it is those last 30 seconds... | 0:30:49 | 0:30:54 | |
-# You know -You know | 0:30:54 | 0:30:55 | |
-# You know it -You know it | 0:30:55 | 0:30:57 | |
-# You know -You know | 0:30:57 | 0:30:59 | |
-# You know it -You know it... # | 0:30:59 | 0:31:01 | |
-Sometimes he lost us, you know... -HE GARBLES SPEECH | 0:31:01 | 0:31:04 | |
THEY CHANT | 0:31:04 | 0:31:06 | |
"So, guys, naaa, naaa, na..." | 0:31:06 | 0:31:07 | |
-# Ask your mother -Your mother | 0:31:07 | 0:31:10 | |
-# Ask your sister -Your sister | 0:31:10 | 0:31:12 | |
-# Ask me -Ask me | 0:31:12 | 0:31:14 | |
-# You've been doing wrong -You've been doing wrong | 0:31:14 | 0:31:16 | |
-# You're doing wrong -You're doing wrong | 0:31:16 | 0:31:18 | |
-# You're doing me wrong -You're doing me wrong | 0:31:18 | 0:31:20 | |
-# You're doing wrong -You're doing wrong... # | 0:31:20 | 0:31:22 | |
And this is something that he envisioned, | 0:31:32 | 0:31:35 | |
and he was feeling, and it finally got to that... | 0:31:35 | 0:31:38 | |
HE HISSES | 0:31:38 | 0:31:39 | |
So, that's the way it goes down, hey? | 0:31:54 | 0:31:55 | |
There was a lot of talk at first of doing a different thing, | 0:32:20 | 0:32:22 | |
maybe everyone smiling, and being happy with it. | 0:32:22 | 0:32:25 | |
18 apple, take three. | 0:32:25 | 0:32:27 | |
And action. | 0:32:28 | 0:32:30 | |
Yo, it's cool, all right. | 0:32:33 | 0:32:35 | |
I mean, there ain't no hard feelings or nothing. | 0:32:35 | 0:32:38 | |
But then I just said, "It just doesn't seem to work." | 0:32:41 | 0:32:44 | |
The fellas have to more or less except him, | 0:32:44 | 0:32:46 | |
and they accept them, and they go their own way, that's it. | 0:32:46 | 0:32:49 | |
Last week Michael Jackson re-entered human history, | 0:32:50 | 0:32:53 | |
to gladden mankind with his latest album, | 0:32:53 | 0:32:56 | |
thus triggering a wave of media silliness and cross-promotion. | 0:32:56 | 0:33:00 | |
CBS television let off the festival of foolishness Monday night. | 0:33:00 | 0:33:04 | |
IT broadcast a half-hour special on Jackson and his new album. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:08 | |
I mean, when that video comes on Monday night, | 0:33:10 | 0:33:12 | |
everyone's going to be glued to their TV screen, | 0:33:12 | 0:33:14 | |
with their friends saying, | 0:33:14 | 0:33:16 | |
"did you see that? Did you see that? Did you see that?" | 0:33:16 | 0:33:18 | |
It was before the age of the internet, I mean, | 0:33:18 | 0:33:20 | |
the most that I could do was call somebody else's house | 0:33:20 | 0:33:23 | |
to have three-way, who called another friend to have three-way, | 0:33:23 | 0:33:26 | |
like seven of us watched this short film, one three-way, in dead silence. | 0:33:26 | 0:33:34 | |
I was just transfixed in front of the TV. | 0:33:34 | 0:33:38 | |
We took all the documentary footage we could find on Michael, | 0:33:38 | 0:33:41 | |
from the very early stages, when he joined Motown records, | 0:33:41 | 0:33:45 | |
it ended with a video clip of him in London, | 0:33:45 | 0:33:50 | |
with hundreds of girls screaming and yelling, and we put this rumble | 0:33:50 | 0:33:55 | |
track underneath the screaming and yelling to really enhance it. | 0:33:55 | 0:33:58 | |
It was just like this with the Beatles. | 0:33:58 | 0:34:01 | |
And Michael just loved this comment | 0:34:01 | 0:34:06 | |
by this woman of comparing him to the Beatles. | 0:34:06 | 0:34:10 | |
He lit up when he saw that, he just turned to me from the chair | 0:34:10 | 0:34:13 | |
and said, "I love it, Larry. I love it." | 0:34:13 | 0:34:16 | |
If you saw it, you witnessed one of the great bold-faced | 0:34:16 | 0:34:20 | |
masterpieces of promotional hype in this hype-splattered decade. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:24 | |
This video is sending out some | 0:34:24 | 0:34:26 | |
very strange and mixed signals, social signals, | 0:34:26 | 0:34:29 | |
the cry for some critical analysis in the media. | 0:34:29 | 0:34:32 | |
Some people in the press got down on it because, | 0:34:32 | 0:34:35 | |
firstly they were making fun of Michael Jackson in it, | 0:34:35 | 0:34:40 | |
and then some people got onto the note of, "Is this racist? | 0:34:40 | 0:34:46 | |
"Are you exploiting a tragedy for the sake of a music entertainment?" | 0:34:46 | 0:34:51 | |
You know, Marty's in Morocco, | 0:34:51 | 0:34:53 | |
Quincy Jones is on the red carpet somewhere | 0:34:53 | 0:34:55 | |
and I'm the idiot in Long Island that getting all the calls. | 0:34:55 | 0:34:59 | |
"No, it's not racist, what are you talking about?!" Freaking out, like a good liberal. | 0:34:59 | 0:35:04 | |
There was a ballad that was released, | 0:35:04 | 0:35:06 | |
the first track from Thriller, which was a duet with Paul McCartney. | 0:35:06 | 0:35:10 | |
He duplicated that by doing a duet with Siedah Garrett. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:13 | |
25 years ago, I sat at this very spot, | 0:35:13 | 0:35:17 | |
and played this very piano to record I Just Can't Stop Loving You. | 0:35:17 | 0:35:21 | |
MICHAEL: I just wanna lay next to you for a while. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:23 | |
You look so beautiful tonight. | 0:35:26 | 0:35:29 | |
Your eyes are so lovely. | 0:35:31 | 0:35:33 | |
Your mouth is so sweet. | 0:35:33 | 0:35:36 | |
A lot of people misunderstand me. | 0:35:37 | 0:35:40 | |
That's because they don't know me at all. | 0:35:40 | 0:35:43 | |
I just want to touch you. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:47 | |
And hold you. | 0:35:47 | 0:35:49 | |
I need you. | 0:35:51 | 0:35:53 | |
God, I need you. | 0:35:53 | 0:35:55 | |
I Just Can't Stop Loving You is an interesting song | 0:35:57 | 0:35:59 | |
because it's the first single released off the album, | 0:35:59 | 0:36:03 | |
and so the firing squad was ready. | 0:36:03 | 0:36:05 | |
They would have ripped anything apart because they were ready, | 0:36:05 | 0:36:07 | |
they were ready to attack whatever he threw out there. | 0:36:07 | 0:36:11 | |
In spite of that, it goes number one. | 0:36:11 | 0:36:13 | |
To me, I Can't Stop Loving You is like, | 0:36:13 | 0:36:15 | |
close to his Burt Bacharach song. | 0:36:15 | 0:36:18 | |
It was actually intended as a duet with Whitney Houston. | 0:36:18 | 0:36:21 | |
This award honours you for your consistent artistic | 0:36:21 | 0:36:24 | |
and technical excellence in all forms of video | 0:36:24 | 0:36:27 | |
and for raising the standard of the art form to new horizons. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:30 | |
-Thank you, Whitney. -You're welcome. | 0:36:30 | 0:36:32 | |
To all the fans around the world, thank you very much, and I love you. | 0:36:32 | 0:36:36 | |
So Arista Records says, "We don't want Whitney to be over-exposed." | 0:36:36 | 0:36:40 | |
Clive Davidson! | 0:36:40 | 0:36:42 | |
CHUCKLING | 0:36:42 | 0:36:43 | |
When I see Clive, I'm going to give him hell. | 0:36:43 | 0:36:46 | |
Just kidding, just kidding, everybody calm down. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:50 | |
I remember when it came out I was really disappointed | 0:36:50 | 0:36:52 | |
because I was like, you're going to put out a slow song | 0:36:52 | 0:36:56 | |
after this whole run of Thriller and all these songs, | 0:36:56 | 0:36:59 | |
you're going to put out a slow song? | 0:36:59 | 0:37:01 | |
Come on, this is the big comeback. Where's the music video? | 0:37:01 | 0:37:06 | |
And who's that girl singing? | 0:37:06 | 0:37:08 | |
I only later found out it was Siedah Garrett. | 0:37:08 | 0:37:10 | |
And there weren't very many people in the studio. | 0:37:10 | 0:37:13 | |
It was just Michael, Quincy, Bruce Swedien and me. | 0:37:13 | 0:37:17 | |
And Quincy just sort of over his shoulder said, | 0:37:17 | 0:37:20 | |
"Hey, Sid, you like the song?" | 0:37:20 | 0:37:22 | |
And I'm going, "Yeah." Knitting. "Yeah, I like it." | 0:37:22 | 0:37:26 | |
He said, "You think you can sing it?" I'm like, "Yeah." | 0:37:26 | 0:37:30 | |
So I walked in this room and I see these two mic stands | 0:37:30 | 0:37:34 | |
and there's music sheets on the mic stands | 0:37:34 | 0:37:36 | |
and in the moment that I saw the music sheets where it said, | 0:37:36 | 0:37:40 | |
"Michael, Siedah, Michael, Siedah," that was the moment I realised, | 0:37:40 | 0:37:44 | |
oh, my God, I'm doing a duet with Michael Jackson! | 0:37:44 | 0:37:49 | |
# I hear your voice now | 0:37:49 | 0:37:52 | |
# You are my choice now | 0:37:52 | 0:37:55 | |
# The love we bring | 0:37:55 | 0:37:58 | |
# Heaven's in my heart | 0:37:59 | 0:38:01 | |
# At your call, I hear harps | 0:38:01 | 0:38:04 | |
# And angels sing. # | 0:38:04 | 0:38:07 | |
I'm singing, my eyes are closed, # You know how I... # | 0:38:07 | 0:38:10 | |
And Michael started tossing, I think it was popcorn. | 0:38:10 | 0:38:15 | |
I'm singing, my eyes closed and I'm feeling this, | 0:38:15 | 0:38:18 | |
and then Quincy, all Quincy sees is me, you know, | 0:38:18 | 0:38:21 | |
he said, "Sid, this is studio time, you're wasting time, Siedah, | 0:38:21 | 0:38:24 | |
"you're wasting an expensive studio." | 0:38:24 | 0:38:26 | |
And Michael is cracking up. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:28 | |
I Just Can't Stop Loving You started at 3am. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:32 | |
That's one of those you get the phone call to wake up | 0:38:32 | 0:38:34 | |
and, "We need to record right now." | 0:38:34 | 0:38:37 | |
And we were done probably in an hour and a half. | 0:38:37 | 0:38:40 | |
On the album version of I Just Can't Stop Loving You, | 0:38:40 | 0:38:44 | |
you make some very strong sensuous remarks to a woman | 0:38:44 | 0:38:47 | |
that you're lying next to. | 0:38:47 | 0:38:49 | |
-I was in a bed when I was doing that. -Really? -Yeah. | 0:38:49 | 0:38:53 | |
I was lying in bed, the cover and everything. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:56 | |
# At night when the stars shine | 0:38:57 | 0:39:00 | |
# I pray in you I'll find | 0:39:00 | 0:39:03 | |
# A love so true | 0:39:03 | 0:39:07 | |
# When morning awakes me | 0:39:07 | 0:39:10 | |
# Will you come and take me? | 0:39:10 | 0:39:13 | |
# I'll wait for you | 0:39:13 | 0:39:14 | |
# You know how I feel | 0:39:16 | 0:39:19 | |
# I won't stop until | 0:39:19 | 0:39:22 | |
# I hear your voice saying "I do" | 0:39:22 | 0:39:24 | |
# I do | 0:39:24 | 0:39:26 | |
# This thing can't go wrong | 0:39:26 | 0:39:29 | |
# This feeling so strong | 0:39:29 | 0:39:31 | |
# My life ain't worth living if I can't be with you. # | 0:39:31 | 0:39:36 | |
When I was recording my bits, I didn't need any charts, | 0:39:36 | 0:39:41 | |
I would just listen to the demo, | 0:39:41 | 0:39:43 | |
really, internalise the parts that way | 0:39:43 | 0:39:45 | |
and in talking a little bit with Michael and getting his wishes across, musically, | 0:39:45 | 0:39:50 | |
I just translate all that and play it. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:52 | |
# Hee-hee-hee, won't you, girl. # | 0:39:54 | 0:39:57 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:40:10 | 0:40:12 | |
I was slated to be on the Bad tour. | 0:40:12 | 0:40:15 | |
I was convinced by my record company and other people | 0:40:15 | 0:40:18 | |
that I needed to do a record cos the duet had just come out. | 0:40:18 | 0:40:21 | |
I'd rehearsed with them for a week | 0:40:21 | 0:40:23 | |
when I decided I wanted to do my record so I pulled out. | 0:40:23 | 0:40:28 | |
# At night when the stars shine | 0:40:28 | 0:40:30 | |
# I pray that I'll find | 0:40:30 | 0:40:33 | |
# A love so true. # | 0:40:33 | 0:40:35 | |
The band used to bet on whether Michael was getting excited | 0:40:35 | 0:40:39 | |
during the song. Now... | 0:40:39 | 0:40:41 | |
-Singing to you? -Yeah. I say that's a stretch. | 0:40:41 | 0:40:45 | |
# I'll wait for you | 0:40:46 | 0:40:49 | |
# You know how I feel | 0:40:51 | 0:40:53 | |
# I won't stop until... # | 0:40:53 | 0:40:55 | |
Working with Michael and doing the duet is really, it's intense. | 0:40:55 | 0:40:59 | |
Every time we do that, it's a different experience, you know. | 0:40:59 | 0:41:03 | |
And he draws you in so much and just singing a song into his eyes | 0:41:03 | 0:41:06 | |
and having him look at you, it's really exciting. | 0:41:06 | 0:41:09 | |
# This feeling so strong | 0:41:09 | 0:41:12 | |
BOTH: # My life ain't worth living | 0:41:12 | 0:41:14 | |
BOTH: # If I can't be with you | 0:41:14 | 0:41:17 | |
# I just can't stop loving you | 0:41:17 | 0:41:21 | |
# Oh! I just can't stop loving you | 0:41:21 | 0:41:25 | |
# And if I stop, tell me just what will I do? | 0:41:26 | 0:41:32 | |
# I just can't stop loving you. # | 0:41:33 | 0:41:36 | |
Michael Jackson has such a great instinct for the groove, | 0:41:36 | 0:41:42 | |
like the groove in Michael Jackson, he was rocking at all times, | 0:41:42 | 0:41:46 | |
he could hear the groove. | 0:41:46 | 0:41:48 | |
So if you take that groove and you put it to orchestration, | 0:41:48 | 0:41:52 | |
it makes it bigger, it makes it more powerful. | 0:41:52 | 0:41:55 | |
Quincy Jones/Michael Jackson collaboration was historic. | 0:41:55 | 0:41:59 | |
It was a match made in heaven because first of all, | 0:41:59 | 0:42:04 | |
there was a tremendous amount of mutual respect. | 0:42:04 | 0:42:08 | |
There is no-one in popular music history like Quincy, | 0:42:08 | 0:42:13 | |
as an orchestrator, as a composer. | 0:42:13 | 0:42:17 | |
Coming from all of his background, Count Basie, | 0:42:17 | 0:42:20 | |
Frank Sinatra, Dinah Washington, playing trumpet in Lionel Hampton's band. | 0:42:20 | 0:42:24 | |
The most beautiful part about the love affair, and that's what it is, | 0:42:24 | 0:42:28 | |
the love affair between a producer, whatever you want to call it, | 0:42:28 | 0:42:32 | |
the person that's on the other side, | 0:42:32 | 0:42:34 | |
a person that loves that artist enough to never want to see him in trouble, | 0:42:34 | 0:42:37 | |
and only wants to see the best for that artist, | 0:42:37 | 0:42:40 | |
to come up with the best results, | 0:42:40 | 0:42:44 | |
is an incredible trust, where you can say, | 0:42:44 | 0:42:48 | |
"Jump, Michael, there's no parachute, there's no net, | 0:42:48 | 0:42:51 | |
"there's nothing there, there's 34 stories down, jump." | 0:42:51 | 0:42:55 | |
One of the great things about Quincy is that he has this ability | 0:42:55 | 0:43:01 | |
of mixing all kinds of different genres | 0:43:01 | 0:43:06 | |
and personalities into one beautiful blend. | 0:43:06 | 0:43:09 | |
Because he only uses the best, the creme de la creme of musicians. | 0:43:09 | 0:43:13 | |
Working with Quincy was like being at school. | 0:43:13 | 0:43:16 | |
I learned so much about separation, | 0:43:16 | 0:43:19 | |
in trying to make a record where everyone, | 0:43:19 | 0:43:22 | |
he used to say, "Everybody can't come in the door at the same time." | 0:43:22 | 0:43:25 | |
And he used to always say, "You can't polish doo-doo." | 0:43:25 | 0:43:28 | |
You can't polish doo-doo. You know, you've got to have a great song at the beginning. | 0:43:28 | 0:43:32 | |
When we look at the end of a day and I have goosebumps, | 0:43:32 | 0:43:36 | |
and Michael has goosebumps and Bruce Swedien, the engineer, has goosebumps, | 0:43:36 | 0:43:39 | |
then I think we've got something special. | 0:43:39 | 0:43:41 | |
And Quincy just puts his little fairy dust over it | 0:43:41 | 0:43:45 | |
and it's a Quincy Jones project and it's kind of, as he says, | 0:43:45 | 0:43:49 | |
"Leave space for God to walk through the door and create some magic." | 0:43:49 | 0:43:52 | |
Michael Jackson had been into champagne music. | 0:43:52 | 0:43:55 | |
You know how in St Tropez when you order champagne | 0:43:55 | 0:43:57 | |
they bring the sparklers out with the champagne? Michael saw that 20 years ago ahead and made a sound. | 0:43:57 | 0:44:03 | |
Michael Jackson made the sound of fabulous. Him and Quincy. | 0:44:03 | 0:44:06 | |
And Michael was one of those sources of energy where he brought so much, | 0:44:06 | 0:44:10 | |
so much originality but also an amazing collaborator. | 0:44:10 | 0:44:14 | |
He's so disciplined and he's got that perfect balance | 0:44:14 | 0:44:18 | |
of soul and science. He knows the working parts of his craft. | 0:44:18 | 0:44:23 | |
And he has total trust in an intuitive part of his craft, | 0:44:23 | 0:44:27 | |
and so that's the balance. The head and heart. | 0:44:27 | 0:44:31 | |
Off The Wall, Thriller, Bad. | 0:44:31 | 0:44:33 | |
They created three hurricanes that basically went through the globe | 0:44:33 | 0:44:38 | |
and everybody got caught up and danced. | 0:44:38 | 0:44:41 | |
Well, we're here today to try to finish up a session | 0:44:41 | 0:44:46 | |
with Michael Jackson singing in Spanish and in French. | 0:44:46 | 0:44:52 | |
We've spoken about this for years and years, | 0:44:52 | 0:44:54 | |
from when we were doing Off The Wall and we were doing Thriller, | 0:44:54 | 0:44:58 | |
but we never got around to it because by the time | 0:44:58 | 0:45:01 | |
we finished the album, we'd do disco versions and we'd do videos et cetera | 0:45:01 | 0:45:06 | |
and I think inside we weren't really sure whether we could make it work. | 0:45:06 | 0:45:10 | |
# Como la briza... # | 0:45:10 | 0:45:12 | |
The one thing I didn't think was possible | 0:45:12 | 0:45:16 | |
was just to do a translation of the song. | 0:45:16 | 0:45:19 | |
-Word for word, you mean, right? -Yes. | 0:45:19 | 0:45:22 | |
So what I said was, "Let me understand the song | 0:45:22 | 0:45:26 | |
"and I'll be as close as I can to what the song was about." | 0:45:26 | 0:45:31 | |
# Tu me haces sentir | 0:45:31 | 0:45:33 | |
# Deseos de vivir | 0:45:33 | 0:45:36 | |
# Junto a ti por siemp're | 0:45:36 | 0:45:38 | |
# Tu amor es mi suerte. # | 0:45:38 | 0:45:40 | |
One more. I think I need more level in the phones, | 0:45:40 | 0:45:43 | |
like I'm drowning the track out. | 0:45:43 | 0:45:44 | |
It was a privilege for me to watch the way he performed | 0:45:44 | 0:45:48 | |
and the way he handled this. | 0:45:48 | 0:45:51 | |
He felt perhaps a bit vulnerable. | 0:45:51 | 0:45:53 | |
I'm sorry. You can continue. Here we go. | 0:45:56 | 0:46:00 | |
When you control the whole thing, | 0:46:00 | 0:46:01 | |
all of a sudden now somebody's telling you how to do something | 0:46:01 | 0:46:05 | |
in a language that is not yours, and so you are vulnerable. | 0:46:05 | 0:46:09 | |
And I made it my main effort to make him feel comfortable, | 0:46:09 | 0:46:13 | |
not to feel that I was in any way mocking him because it's not easy. | 0:46:13 | 0:46:17 | |
This is the first time he ever tried to do anything in Spanish that I know of. | 0:46:17 | 0:46:21 | |
I wanted Michael to sound like, you don't know who that is. | 0:46:21 | 0:46:25 | |
The pronunciation was so good, | 0:46:25 | 0:46:30 | |
that...I was stunned. | 0:46:30 | 0:46:34 | |
# Y cuando no estas | 0:46:34 | 0:46:36 | |
# No hay felicidad. # | 0:46:36 | 0:46:38 | |
Both of them: "Mi vida no es vida." | 0:46:38 | 0:46:41 | |
My life is not a life. Si tu te vas, if you leave. | 0:46:41 | 0:46:44 | |
# Si tu te vas. # | 0:46:44 | 0:46:47 | |
Todo me amor eres tu - all my love, you are all my love. | 0:46:47 | 0:46:52 | |
# Todo mi amor eres tu. # | 0:46:52 | 0:46:56 | |
When people found out that Michael Jackson had sung a song in Spanish, | 0:46:56 | 0:47:01 | |
they were very, very, very proud and happy. | 0:47:01 | 0:47:05 | |
Well, The Hayvenhurst studio is located in a guest house here | 0:47:09 | 0:47:12 | |
at the Jacksons' property, at their home, | 0:47:12 | 0:47:16 | |
and the studio was used for recording demos | 0:47:16 | 0:47:20 | |
and I worked with Michael recording and developing his ideas, his songs, | 0:47:20 | 0:47:24 | |
his arrangements, his productions for the Bad album. | 0:47:24 | 0:47:27 | |
Over a two, three year period of time, | 0:47:27 | 0:47:29 | |
it was just a non-stop work in progress. | 0:47:29 | 0:47:32 | |
The number of demos that we worked on for Bad was 60, maybe 65 demos. | 0:47:32 | 0:47:39 | |
When I received the demos, they were in really good shape at that time. | 0:47:39 | 0:47:44 | |
I guess I didn't realise at the time but what we were doing | 0:47:44 | 0:47:48 | |
was we were forming the B team. | 0:47:48 | 0:47:49 | |
Quincy always called his team the A-Team. His engineer, Bruce Swedien... | 0:47:49 | 0:47:53 | |
John Robinson on drums... | 0:47:53 | 0:47:55 | |
-..arranger Jerry Hayes... -..Nathan East on bass... | 0:47:55 | 0:47:59 | |
Keyboards would have been Greg Phillinganes. | 0:47:59 | 0:48:02 | |
I started with Michael here at Hayvenhurst. | 0:48:02 | 0:48:05 | |
We were the kind of initial team which was John Barnes, | 0:48:05 | 0:48:08 | |
myself, Michael, Bill Bottrell, Chris Currell. | 0:48:08 | 0:48:11 | |
And then at times other musicians would come in, | 0:48:11 | 0:48:14 | |
most prominent would be David Williams, who is no longer with us. | 0:48:14 | 0:48:17 | |
And in some ways I think Michael kind of liked that vibe. | 0:48:17 | 0:48:21 | |
He kind of liked the vibe of, you know, having a little competition | 0:48:21 | 0:48:25 | |
to see who could come up with the best thing. | 0:48:25 | 0:48:28 | |
I think this is one of the things that he learned from his Motown days, | 0:48:28 | 0:48:32 | |
something he learned from Berry Gordy. | 0:48:32 | 0:48:33 | |
We weren't making demos, we were making records. | 0:48:33 | 0:48:36 | |
Anybody else would be perfectly happy | 0:48:36 | 0:48:40 | |
to accept a Michael demo as a finished record, | 0:48:40 | 0:48:43 | |
let me put it that way. | 0:48:43 | 0:48:45 | |
We would work every single day on creating individual sounds for songs | 0:48:45 | 0:48:50 | |
that were going to ultimately be on the record. | 0:48:50 | 0:48:54 | |
We'd record them, re-record them, different keys, | 0:48:54 | 0:48:58 | |
different speeds, different instrumentation, | 0:48:58 | 0:49:01 | |
and so that became kind of an experiment in how far can we push. | 0:49:01 | 0:49:05 | |
Michael would say, "You know, it starts in this very room." | 0:49:05 | 0:49:11 | |
And from this room it goes out and it spreads over the entire world. | 0:49:11 | 0:49:16 | |
It's...quite an experience to be back here, | 0:49:16 | 0:49:21 | |
at Hayvenhurst studio, | 0:49:21 | 0:49:23 | |
just as it was when I last left it, almost 25 years ago. | 0:49:23 | 0:49:28 | |
DOG BARKS | 0:49:28 | 0:49:30 | |
We never knew what we were going to do when we showed up. | 0:49:30 | 0:49:33 | |
If Michael was inspired, we followed it. | 0:49:33 | 0:49:36 | |
So this is Michael singing multiple harmony parts. | 0:49:36 | 0:49:40 | |
This is Michael double-tracking, the mid, the low, the high parts. | 0:49:40 | 0:49:45 | |
There is actually ten tracks of Michael singing his own backgrounds on this song. | 0:49:45 | 0:49:50 | |
# The way you make me feel | 0:49:50 | 0:49:52 | |
# You really turn me on | 0:49:54 | 0:49:56 | |
# You knock me off my feet. # | 0:49:59 | 0:50:00 | |
You can hear the difference in sound quality from being out here | 0:50:00 | 0:50:04 | |
in the music room, to walking into the bathroom. | 0:50:04 | 0:50:07 | |
Now this room was one of Michael's favourite places | 0:50:07 | 0:50:09 | |
because of the nature of the surfaces in this room. | 0:50:09 | 0:50:12 | |
One of the things that we would do is we would record with the door to the shower open, | 0:50:12 | 0:50:18 | |
much more reflective, a lot of what we call early reflection, | 0:50:18 | 0:50:22 | |
a lot of brightness, a lot of reinforcement to how things sound. | 0:50:22 | 0:50:26 | |
HUMMING AND SCATTING AN APPROXIMATION OF THE LYRICS | 0:50:35 | 0:50:39 | |
# I like the style of your walk your talk, your dress | 0:50:47 | 0:50:51 | |
# I feel your fever from miles around | 0:50:51 | 0:50:54 | |
# I'll pick you up... | 0:50:56 | 0:50:57 | |
# ..paint the town | 0:50:58 | 0:51:00 | |
# Just kiss me baby and tell me twice | 0:51:00 | 0:51:03 | |
# That you're... # I know this part! | 0:51:03 | 0:51:06 | |
# The way you make me feel. # | 0:51:06 | 0:51:09 | |
Ha, I know that! | 0:51:09 | 0:51:10 | |
# It really turns me o-o-on | 0:51:10 | 0:51:14 | |
# Knocking me off of my feet now, baby | 0:51:15 | 0:51:19 | |
# Lonely days are gone. # | 0:51:19 | 0:51:22 | |
I met with Quincy, Quincy Jones and Frank, | 0:51:25 | 0:51:29 | |
to find out what they were looking for in the video. | 0:51:29 | 0:51:33 | |
And they said, basically, we want to take Michael to another level, | 0:51:33 | 0:51:36 | |
especially with his relationships with women. | 0:51:36 | 0:51:39 | |
And then I talked to Michael and I said, "Where do you want it to happen?" He said, "Skid Row." | 0:51:39 | 0:51:43 | |
We wrote a long prequel, just like they did in Bad. | 0:51:43 | 0:51:45 | |
-I contacted August Wilson. -Yeah?! -Yeah. | 0:51:45 | 0:51:48 | |
Cos I'm from Pittsburgh and so was he. | 0:51:48 | 0:51:50 | |
-What did August say? -No. He said no. | 0:51:50 | 0:51:53 | |
I did this little documentary about the guys on the street, | 0:51:53 | 0:51:57 | |
real, real stuff, and showed it to Michael. | 0:51:57 | 0:52:02 | |
He looked at it and actually said, | 0:52:02 | 0:52:04 | |
"Can we make the video look like this?" Because it was all handheld and jerky. | 0:52:04 | 0:52:08 | |
And I said, "If that's what you want. You're sure you want that?" He said, "yeah." | 0:52:08 | 0:52:11 | |
Get out of here, man! | 0:52:11 | 0:52:13 | |
Check out that rear end! Whoo! | 0:52:13 | 0:52:16 | |
Don't touch my head! No! | 0:52:16 | 0:52:19 | |
You're acting like a little tramp! | 0:52:19 | 0:52:20 | |
And we actually used real gang members in the video. | 0:52:20 | 0:52:24 | |
We had the V13s down here on this corner | 0:52:24 | 0:52:27 | |
and the Crips on this corner, and some of the guys were smoking | 0:52:27 | 0:52:32 | |
and Michael came and he said, "Jo, the guys are smoking down there. | 0:52:32 | 0:52:36 | |
"It's kind of bothersome." And I just turned and said, | 0:52:36 | 0:52:40 | |
"Will you fucking guys quit fucking smocking?!" | 0:52:40 | 0:52:43 | |
And Michael, he almost panicked, he almost hid behind me | 0:52:43 | 0:52:46 | |
because this is all these gang members, | 0:52:46 | 0:52:48 | |
we had cops everywhere, though. It wasn't a problem. | 0:52:48 | 0:52:50 | |
Hey! | 0:52:50 | 0:52:51 | |
When he sees the girl, he did a thing with his fingers going... | 0:53:04 | 0:53:07 | |
FINGERS CLICKING | 0:53:07 | 0:53:08 | |
It happened once, my brother was operating the camera and caught it. I said, "Oh, my God, thank God." | 0:53:10 | 0:53:14 | |
Michael had the best-sounding fingers, didn't he? | 0:53:14 | 0:53:17 | |
I don't remember which song it is, | 0:53:17 | 0:53:19 | |
but on Bad he has a credit for finger snaps. | 0:53:19 | 0:53:22 | |
One of the most amazing moments that I remember was Michael walking, | 0:53:23 | 0:53:29 | |
walking, walking, and catches up to Tatyana, | 0:53:29 | 0:53:34 | |
and sings for the first time... | 0:53:34 | 0:53:37 | |
# You knock me off of my feet now, baby, hoo! | 0:53:37 | 0:53:42 | |
Everything stopped. We had to stop shooting because people just froze. | 0:53:42 | 0:53:47 | |
They actually froze. | 0:53:47 | 0:53:50 | |
# Hoo! # | 0:53:50 | 0:53:52 | |
To play a shuffle like that for 12 minutes is not easy. | 0:53:55 | 0:54:02 | |
Michael's mother, she has this song in mind. | 0:54:02 | 0:54:05 | |
She says, "Michael, you've got to come up with a song | 0:54:05 | 0:54:08 | |
"that has this real shuffling kind of rhythm." | 0:54:08 | 0:54:11 | |
And Michael says, "OK, I'll see what I can come up with." | 0:54:11 | 0:54:15 | |
Shuffles have a unique rhythm. Most songs you hear are kind of linear. | 0:54:15 | 0:54:20 | |
Shuffles have an extra rhythmic element going on. | 0:54:20 | 0:54:25 | |
You can have a cowbell underneath the backbeat to reinforce the sound. | 0:54:25 | 0:54:29 | |
None of the backbeat that you hear on that album | 0:54:29 | 0:54:33 | |
is going to have just a basic, typical snare drum sound. | 0:54:33 | 0:54:36 | |
I recorded the drums on a wooden platform. | 0:54:36 | 0:54:40 | |
It minimises what is called secondary pick-up, | 0:54:40 | 0:54:43 | |
which is where the other mics in the room | 0:54:43 | 0:54:46 | |
pick up from those sound sources. | 0:54:46 | 0:54:49 | |
And then we got the idea, | 0:54:49 | 0:54:51 | |
why doesn't Michael stand on that when he sings? | 0:54:51 | 0:54:54 | |
And he did, and it sounds glorious. | 0:54:54 | 0:54:57 | |
# Hey, pretty baby with the high heels on | 0:54:57 | 0:55:00 | |
# You give me fever like I've never ever known... # | 0:55:02 | 0:55:06 | |
This was my first album ever as a little girl. | 0:55:06 | 0:55:09 | |
I cried and cried to my mom, begged her to please buy this for me. | 0:55:09 | 0:55:15 | |
I would play this like crazy, and dance with it. | 0:55:15 | 0:55:20 | |
I mean, this was a dream come true. This was something I had fantasised | 0:55:20 | 0:55:25 | |
and dreamed about since I was five or six years old. | 0:55:25 | 0:55:27 | |
# You're the one for me | 0:55:27 | 0:55:29 | |
# The way you make me feel... # | 0:55:29 | 0:55:32 | |
The girl that we finally chose, Tatiana, wasn't in my first five. | 0:55:32 | 0:55:37 | |
I didn't like her. | 0:55:37 | 0:55:39 | |
And I showed Frank DiLeo, his manager, the casting tape | 0:55:39 | 0:55:43 | |
and he said, "That girl's running around with Prince. | 0:55:43 | 0:55:46 | |
"If Michael finds out, he'll be upset. | 0:55:46 | 0:55:48 | |
"And that girl's running around with so-and-so, | 0:55:48 | 0:55:50 | |
"I'm not going to name names." | 0:55:50 | 0:55:52 | |
He said, "I can't say." Cos it was Quincy Jones. | 0:55:52 | 0:55:54 | |
I think. As I remember. | 0:55:54 | 0:55:57 | |
She seemed physically to be the female version of Michael Jackson. | 0:55:57 | 0:56:01 | |
There may have been, in his head, an interesting idea about, | 0:56:01 | 0:56:05 | |
"Wow! This is almost kind of my perfect complement." | 0:56:05 | 0:56:08 | |
# I like the feelin' you're givin' me | 0:56:08 | 0:56:11 | |
# Just hold me, baby and I'm in ecstasy | 0:56:11 | 0:56:15 | |
# Oh, I'll be workin' from 9 to 5... # | 0:56:15 | 0:56:19 | |
She was the finest thing around at that time. I wanted to be Michael. | 0:56:19 | 0:56:22 | |
I wanted to be Michael, walking right beside her, | 0:56:22 | 0:56:25 | |
standing on cars and being... I wanted to be Michael that day. | 0:56:25 | 0:56:28 | |
# Promise, baby, you'll love me for ever more | 0:56:28 | 0:56:32 | |
# I swear I'm keepin' you satisfied | 0:56:32 | 0:56:36 | |
# Cos you're the one for me | 0:56:36 | 0:56:39 | |
-# The way you make me feel -The way you make me feel | 0:56:39 | 0:56:42 | |
-# You really turn me on -You really turn me on | 0:56:42 | 0:56:47 | |
# You knock me off of my feet now... # | 0:56:47 | 0:56:49 | |
I first got hooked up with Quincy through a band I was playing in, | 0:56:49 | 0:56:53 | |
in Los Angeles, called Seawind. | 0:56:53 | 0:56:55 | |
We were playing at a club. | 0:56:55 | 0:56:57 | |
Quincy, always being at the forefront of finding new talent, | 0:56:57 | 0:57:00 | |
heard about us as a horn section, called up one night. | 0:57:00 | 0:57:04 | |
"Jerry, this is Quincy Jones." "What?" | 0:57:04 | 0:57:06 | |
"Yeah, you want to play on a record?" "Of course." | 0:57:06 | 0:57:09 | |
"You want to do an arrangement?" "Oh...OK." | 0:57:09 | 0:57:12 | |
He said, "And how about tomorrow?" | 0:57:12 | 0:57:15 | |
And that was kind of the beginning | 0:57:15 | 0:57:17 | |
of this 30-plus year relationship with Quincy. | 0:57:17 | 0:57:21 | |
Our horn players are two saxophone players, | 0:57:21 | 0:57:25 | |
Kim Hutchcroft and Larry Williams. The trumpet player, Gary Grant. | 0:57:25 | 0:57:29 | |
The trombone player, Bill Reichenbach. | 0:57:29 | 0:57:32 | |
Vamp out. | 0:57:32 | 0:57:34 | |
MUSIC: "The Way You Make Me Feel" | 0:57:34 | 0:57:38 | |
Again, two trumpets, two saxes. | 0:57:38 | 0:57:41 | |
The day of the audition, I wore a dance skin, | 0:57:41 | 0:57:45 | |
a black dress with boots and bracelets, bangles, | 0:57:45 | 0:57:48 | |
which was kind of like my signature thing at the time. | 0:57:48 | 0:57:51 | |
And I heard that Michael liked my look. | 0:57:51 | 0:57:54 | |
He liked the whole style of what I had done, so he kept that. | 0:57:54 | 0:57:59 | |
We created a complete look for her. | 0:57:59 | 0:58:00 | |
Hair extensions, we changed her make up completely. | 0:58:00 | 0:58:03 | |
I had two dresses at that time. One was pink, one was black. | 0:58:03 | 0:58:07 | |
And the black one was kind of reminiscent of a Tatiana dress. | 0:58:07 | 0:58:12 | |
That's the way I was living. | 0:58:12 | 0:58:13 | |
# Go on, girl | 0:58:13 | 0:58:15 | |
# Go on | 0:58:15 | 0:58:17 | |
# Ow! | 0:58:18 | 0:58:20 | |
# Go on, girl | 0:58:21 | 0:58:23 | |
# Oooh! | 0:58:23 | 0:58:25 | |
# Ooh! # | 0:58:25 | 0:58:27 | |
The Way You Make Me Feel video, um, you know, when he's chasing | 0:58:27 | 0:58:30 | |
the girl around, that was kind of how I pictured my Baby video. | 0:58:30 | 0:58:33 | |
We kind of based it off of that. | 0:58:33 | 0:58:34 | |
In my video, you can see I'm in a bowling alley | 0:58:34 | 0:58:37 | |
but it's kind of like a modern version. | 0:58:37 | 0:58:39 | |
I'm chasing her around, trying to get her to like me. | 0:58:39 | 0:58:42 | |
# The way you make me feel | 0:58:42 | 0:58:45 | |
# The way you make me feel | 0:58:45 | 0:58:47 | |
# You really turn me good... # | 0:58:47 | 0:58:49 | |
Mike called me and said, "I told Joe Pytka, | 0:58:49 | 0:58:51 | |
"who's directing it, that I wasn't doing any dancing. | 0:58:51 | 0:58:53 | |
"But the more I listen to it, I think I want to put some dancing in there. | 0:58:53 | 0:58:56 | |
"Could you go to a studio and work on some stuff, | 0:58:56 | 0:58:58 | |
"then I'll come in and join you." | 0:58:58 | 0:59:00 | |
Joe came in to see, heard this music going on | 0:59:00 | 0:59:02 | |
and was like, "What the heck's going on in here?" | 0:59:02 | 0:59:05 | |
I see this beautiful piece being choreographed, | 0:59:05 | 0:59:07 | |
but the idea that I'd had for the video didn't have a place for that. | 0:59:07 | 0:59:10 | |
We had to very quickly improvise where to put that. | 0:59:10 | 0:59:14 | |
That's where the fire hydrant idea came from. | 0:59:14 | 0:59:17 | |
HE SCREAMS | 0:59:43 | 0:59:45 | |
# The way you make me feel | 0:59:50 | 0:59:52 | |
# You really turn me on | 0:59:55 | 0:59:57 | |
# You knock me off my feet...# | 0:59:59 | 1:00:02 | |
Fans were always bombarding me with the question, | 1:00:04 | 1:00:06 | |
"Why does he chase you throughout the video only for a hug and not a kiss?" | 1:00:06 | 1:00:11 | |
Joe Pytka, the director, he whispered in my ear right before the | 1:00:11 | 1:00:15 | |
very last scene where we hug, and he told me, he said, "Don't kiss him." | 1:00:15 | 1:00:20 | |
I thought the kiss was too corny. | 1:00:22 | 1:00:25 | |
I'm not even sure I wanted him to get that close. | 1:00:25 | 1:00:27 | |
I wanted him to maybe stop like here. | 1:00:27 | 1:00:29 | |
But it worked out with the caress and the hug. | 1:00:29 | 1:00:31 | |
He says, "Because you were originally supposed to kiss, | 1:00:31 | 1:00:34 | |
"but Michael is too shy for that so don't kiss him." | 1:00:34 | 1:00:37 | |
When Michael did finally come out and we got close and we hugged, | 1:00:37 | 1:00:41 | |
I could smell like a minty, minty fresh scent from his breath. | 1:00:41 | 1:00:48 | |
< That was a signal! | 1:00:48 | 1:00:49 | |
I kind of think he came prepared but... | 1:00:49 | 1:00:52 | |
Being told not to kiss him, and that he couldn't handle it, | 1:00:52 | 1:00:57 | |
he was too shy, I didn't want to take advantage like that. | 1:00:57 | 1:01:00 | |
Oh, listen, Tatiana was not shy. She was not a shy girl. | 1:01:00 | 1:01:05 | |
And in fact, going on with this story is little bit, | 1:01:05 | 1:01:09 | |
she was told, "Definitely don't kiss Michael onstage." | 1:01:09 | 1:01:13 | |
He was complaining she'd become too aggressive on stage and everything. | 1:01:13 | 1:01:17 | |
I made a joke, "Is this going to be X-rated, this thing?" | 1:01:17 | 1:01:20 | |
I said, "Michael, why don't you just go fuck her? Fuck her one night. | 1:01:20 | 1:01:23 | |
"Get it over with." | 1:01:23 | 1:01:25 | |
He started laughing and Frank said, "What the hell are you doing? | 1:01:25 | 1:01:30 | |
"I've got enough Goddamn trouble without you trying to get him | 1:01:30 | 1:01:32 | |
"involved with this girl." | 1:01:32 | 1:01:34 | |
But for me, it became policy because I said, | 1:01:34 | 1:01:37 | |
"OK, if Michael doesn't kiss in the video, | 1:01:37 | 1:01:40 | |
"I don't think anybody should kiss in the video." | 1:01:40 | 1:01:43 | |
So since that day, I always edit out kisses in videos | 1:01:43 | 1:01:47 | |
and one in particular, Justin Bieber made a video. | 1:01:47 | 1:01:51 | |
He was going to kiss the girl and I went crazy. | 1:01:51 | 1:01:54 | |
And I went crazy, A - because he wanted to kiss the girl, | 1:01:54 | 1:01:57 | |
and B - she was a black girl. | 1:01:57 | 1:01:58 | |
And I was like, "OK, you're about to mess up your whole thing, man." | 1:01:58 | 1:02:02 | |
HE LAUGHS | 1:02:02 | 1:02:04 | |
Oh, oh, look, Granny. It-it's... | 1:02:09 | 1:02:12 | |
Ah...it's-it's... Mmm...mmm...ah! M-M-M... | 1:02:12 | 1:02:18 | |
Mantovani? | 1:02:18 | 1:02:19 | |
No. Michael Jackson! | 1:02:19 | 1:02:23 | |
ALL: Michael Jackson! | 1:02:23 | 1:02:24 | |
Speed Demon is a song that maybe people aren't as familiar with | 1:02:24 | 1:02:29 | |
on the album, but actually serves as a metaphor for the entire album. | 1:02:29 | 1:02:34 | |
Because what Michael is trying to do with this album is escape, | 1:02:34 | 1:02:38 | |
escape from all the things that are confining him, | 1:02:38 | 1:02:41 | |
all the things that are suffocating him. | 1:02:41 | 1:02:43 | |
There he is! Hey, buddy, how about an autograph? | 1:02:43 | 1:02:46 | |
THEY LAUGH | 1:02:46 | 1:02:48 | |
Would you autograph my tummy? THEY LAUGH | 1:02:48 | 1:02:50 | |
Speed Demon was my song. | 1:02:50 | 1:02:52 | |
I'm a percussionist and that song was 100% syncopated adrenaline. | 1:02:52 | 1:02:59 | |
In the James Brown mode of rhythm arrangement where you use | 1:02:59 | 1:03:03 | |
instruments as percussion. | 1:03:03 | 1:03:04 | |
# Speed Demon | 1:03:04 | 1:03:06 | |
# Speed Demon... # | 1:03:09 | 1:03:11 | |
It was pretty much clay-mation, you know, | 1:03:13 | 1:03:15 | |
matted into live action settings. It was a real mix. | 1:03:15 | 1:03:19 | |
The whole idea of that music video, that short, | 1:03:19 | 1:03:23 | |
was really to merge live action and clay-mation together. | 1:03:23 | 1:03:27 | |
There was one place in the story where, you know, | 1:03:27 | 1:03:31 | |
he turns into our character Spike Rabbit, | 1:03:31 | 1:03:34 | |
you know, as a way to sort of get away from the paparazzi and so forth. | 1:03:34 | 1:03:37 | |
Our Spike character wanders through in this incredible chase, | 1:03:37 | 1:03:41 | |
but when they come back and they separate, they separate like this and | 1:03:41 | 1:03:45 | |
so Spike's still there and Michael's right there and they do a duet. | 1:03:45 | 1:03:50 | |
A little dance thing. | 1:03:50 | 1:03:52 | |
So we had to make Spike Rabbit dance right alongside Michael. | 1:03:52 | 1:03:59 | |
That was really, really fun because, for one thing, | 1:03:59 | 1:04:03 | |
we had to work out the choreography between what he was going to do | 1:04:03 | 1:04:07 | |
and how we were going to do it, and figure out exactly how the | 1:04:07 | 1:04:10 | |
moves were going to work, and work it right to the music and so on. | 1:04:10 | 1:04:13 | |
Instead of easing into it, maybe just really hit it. Full load. | 1:04:13 | 1:04:17 | |
I wish I could. I feel so limited. This stuff is so tight on me. | 1:04:17 | 1:04:21 | |
Upon finishing with Speed Demon, he called up one day, | 1:04:21 | 1:04:28 | |
he got around to saying how much he loved the California Raisin | 1:04:28 | 1:04:32 | |
commercials, so I realised where he was going. | 1:04:32 | 1:04:34 | |
And I said, "Michael, you should be a raisin." | 1:04:34 | 1:04:38 | |
"Yeah!" | 1:04:38 | 1:04:39 | |
'Will, I really need you to call me pertaining to the backup guys, | 1:04:40 | 1:04:45 | |
'the character's got to be much stronger. | 1:04:45 | 1:04:48 | |
'It doesn't hit it right on. | 1:04:48 | 1:04:51 | |
'This is very important. Thank you. Bye.' | 1:04:51 | 1:04:55 | |
The rap raisins materialising behind me, | 1:04:55 | 1:04:59 | |
I want to define their character. | 1:04:59 | 1:05:02 | |
And from his expression, which is 99% of it. | 1:05:02 | 1:05:07 | |
The one guy has the glasses, and he has the type of attitude that | 1:05:07 | 1:05:14 | |
he's so cool that I'm fortunate that he's here. | 1:05:14 | 1:05:18 | |
And he's much too cool for, like, one of these. | 1:05:18 | 1:05:20 | |
And the other one is like a sarc...sarcasm. | 1:05:36 | 1:05:39 | |
It's like, "What you looking at?" | 1:05:39 | 1:05:40 | |
The other raisin would be this style. No glasses. | 1:05:40 | 1:05:44 | |
So his eyes are most of the expression. Like... | 1:05:44 | 1:05:48 | |
Like that. | 1:05:59 | 1:06:00 | |
# I heard it through the grapevine | 1:06:14 | 1:06:17 | |
# Raised in the California sunshine | 1:06:17 | 1:06:22 | |
# Heard it through the grapevine, baby | 1:06:22 | 1:06:25 | |
Michael! | 1:06:25 | 1:06:26 | |
# Oooh | 1:06:26 | 1:06:27 | |
# And I think I'm about to lose my mind | 1:06:27 | 1:06:29 | |
# Oooh! | 1:06:29 | 1:06:31 | |
HE GASPS | 1:06:31 | 1:06:32 | |
Wow! Must have been something I ate. | 1:06:32 | 1:06:35 | |
Right now on the decks I have the 12-inch single to Liberian Girl | 1:06:40 | 1:06:45 | |
and Run DMC's beats to Sucka MCs. | 1:06:45 | 1:06:49 | |
It sounds something like this. | 1:06:49 | 1:06:51 | |
INTRO TO LIBERIAN GIRL | 1:06:51 | 1:06:54 | |
Quincy wanted some kind of African little intro thing here. | 1:06:54 | 1:07:00 | |
So this was Michael Boddicker on synth | 1:07:00 | 1:07:04 | |
and all these effects | 1:07:04 | 1:07:06 | |
are kind of giving an African sunrise sort of thing. | 1:07:06 | 1:07:13 | |
# Naku penda piya-naku taka piya-mpenziwe. | 1:07:13 | 1:07:16 | |
HE MIXES TRACKS | 1:07:16 | 1:07:19 | |
I mean, people underestimated how radical that was. | 1:07:25 | 1:07:28 | |
Nobody else was writing songs about African women | 1:07:28 | 1:07:33 | |
as beautiful in 1987-1988. | 1:07:33 | 1:07:37 | |
-It's so nice to see you again. -Nice to see you too. | 1:07:37 | 1:07:40 | |
I've had the time of my life here. I'd had so much fun. | 1:07:43 | 1:07:46 | |
I hate to leave. | 1:07:46 | 1:07:47 | |
Here's the biggest pop star in the world, | 1:07:47 | 1:07:49 | |
who quote-unquote is making himself look white, and yet he's very | 1:07:49 | 1:07:53 | |
engaged with beauty and the idea of Africa as a site of beauty. | 1:07:53 | 1:07:56 | |
It's just speaks to the fact that Michael had a very strong | 1:07:56 | 1:07:59 | |
African consciousness. He went to Africa a lot. | 1:07:59 | 1:08:01 | |
He was very engaged with the continent. | 1:08:01 | 1:08:03 | |
Is there a Liberian girl in your life? | 1:08:03 | 1:08:06 | |
No. I wrote that at my house, in the game room. | 1:08:06 | 1:08:10 | |
I guess I was playing some pinball or something. | 1:08:10 | 1:08:13 | |
And the song just popped into my head. | 1:08:13 | 1:08:16 | |
I think I ran upstairs, put it on tape and it became Liberian Girl. | 1:08:16 | 1:08:23 | |
When it was created, it just happened like lightning. | 1:08:23 | 1:08:28 | |
It was just an instant thing. | 1:08:28 | 1:08:29 | |
Normally, it took a lot of time to put things together. | 1:08:29 | 1:08:33 | |
That one happened in three or four hours. | 1:08:33 | 1:08:36 | |
I'm a great believer in sonic fantasy. | 1:08:36 | 1:08:40 | |
Not sonic reality. | 1:08:40 | 1:08:43 | |
Sonic fantasy means creating a soundscape that exists | 1:08:43 | 1:08:49 | |
only in your imagination. That only you can see. | 1:08:49 | 1:08:53 | |
So I could see these incredible soundscapes, and I thought... | 1:08:53 | 1:08:58 | |
Liberian Girl? | 1:08:58 | 1:09:00 | |
-Liberian girl is... -My man! | 1:09:00 | 1:09:03 | |
..Is a perfect example. | 1:09:03 | 1:09:05 | |
I did a little synth work on that. | 1:09:05 | 1:09:07 | |
That part right there. | 1:09:07 | 1:09:09 | |
And it's got a little bird thing happening there on the end of it. | 1:09:11 | 1:09:15 | |
Quincy said, "Give me some of that bird stuff, Boddicker." | 1:09:15 | 1:09:18 | |
That's got a little bit of it. The next time is even more so. | 1:09:18 | 1:09:22 | |
So...there's this part that I wrote. | 1:09:22 | 1:09:27 | |
I played drums Speed Demon, Liberian Girl. | 1:09:27 | 1:09:30 | |
That was good, Liberian Girl was a fun song to do | 1:09:30 | 1:09:33 | |
because everyone would always ask me, | 1:09:33 | 1:09:35 | |
"Why did Michael write a song about a lady working in a library?" | 1:09:35 | 1:09:39 | |
Yeah, there's a little sexy lady behind the counter with | 1:09:39 | 1:09:42 | |
the glasses and the pencil in her hair. | 1:09:42 | 1:09:44 | |
Then she drops her hair and does that thing. | 1:09:44 | 1:09:46 | |
I thought that's what he was talking about. | 1:09:46 | 1:09:48 | |
HE LAUGHS | 1:09:48 | 1:09:50 | |
No, that's not... | 1:09:50 | 1:09:51 | |
That was just...he thought that was the funniest thing he's ever heard. | 1:09:51 | 1:09:55 | |
The video for Liberian Girl is probably the point where | 1:09:55 | 1:09:58 | |
they may have run over budget. | 1:09:58 | 1:10:01 | |
It just has a bunch of celebrities | 1:10:01 | 1:10:03 | |
that are waiting for Michael to show up. | 1:10:03 | 1:10:06 | |
# With two lovers in a scene | 1:10:06 | 1:10:08 | |
# And she says, "Do you love me?" | 1:10:08 | 1:10:10 | |
# And he says so endlessly | 1:10:10 | 1:10:12 | |
# "I love you, Liberian girl"... # | 1:10:12 | 1:10:16 | |
Michael was not in Liberian Girl | 1:10:16 | 1:10:18 | |
because I think he got tired of making videos. | 1:10:18 | 1:10:20 | |
I was talking to Walter Yetnikoff about it and he said, | 1:10:20 | 1:10:23 | |
"You've got to get him in the video." | 1:10:23 | 1:10:25 | |
So I called up Michael and said, | 1:10:25 | 1:10:26 | |
"You've got to be in this video someplace." | 1:10:26 | 1:10:29 | |
And he goes, "OK, I have an idea." | 1:10:29 | 1:10:31 | |
And he goes, "You got one take. You got 15 minutes." | 1:10:31 | 1:10:35 | |
One sec. Just let me tell you when I'm ready. One sec. | 1:10:35 | 1:10:39 | |
-Ready? -Almost. | 1:10:39 | 1:10:42 | |
And he got in the chair, they raised it up in the air, and said, "Action!" | 1:10:42 | 1:10:46 | |
Action! | 1:10:46 | 1:10:47 | |
HE GIGGLES | 1:10:50 | 1:10:52 | |
OK, everybody. That's a wrap. | 1:10:56 | 1:10:58 | |
Cut! | 1:11:00 | 1:11:01 | |
They didn't even shut the engine off. | 1:11:01 | 1:11:03 | |
They got out of the car, no make up, got in the chair. | 1:11:03 | 1:11:06 | |
It was one take. In, out, and Michael left. | 1:11:06 | 1:11:09 | |
HE MAKES NOISES | 1:11:09 | 1:11:12 | |
I'm going to mock myself. | 1:11:12 | 1:11:15 | |
# I watch you on the floor | 1:11:15 | 1:11:18 | |
# Cheek to cheek | 1:11:18 | 1:11:20 | |
# She's getting to you | 1:11:21 | 1:11:24 | |
# You didn't see her eyes on me, no... # | 1:11:24 | 1:11:28 | |
More time, please. | 1:11:28 | 1:11:30 | |
How did Just Good Friends make that album? Well... | 1:11:30 | 1:11:34 | |
Michael or Stevie could've written a better song. | 1:11:34 | 1:11:37 | |
-Exactly. -Taken something from their back catalogue. | 1:11:37 | 1:11:39 | |
An album should be built with peaks and valleys. | 1:11:39 | 1:11:42 | |
Michael Jackson with Bad actually tried to achieve 11 peaks. | 1:11:42 | 1:11:48 | |
I believe that in Michael's head everything had to hit you | 1:11:48 | 1:11:52 | |
out the box, and absolutely become a monstrous single. | 1:11:52 | 1:11:56 | |
And because they were attempting to go for the single, | 1:11:56 | 1:11:59 | |
and the summit meeting between two former child prodigies | 1:11:59 | 1:12:03 | |
from the Motown school, that you expected fireworks. | 1:12:03 | 1:12:08 | |
You know, Just Good Friends just wound up being a little | 1:12:08 | 1:12:12 | |
coffee break in between Liberian Girl and Another Part Of Me. | 1:12:12 | 1:12:18 | |
I think there was a lot that did exist at that point that | 1:12:18 | 1:12:22 | |
would have been...as strong or stronger. | 1:12:22 | 1:12:26 | |
I mean, his vault has got to be staggering. | 1:12:26 | 1:12:30 | |
-My man Stevie wonder. -I mean, unbelievable talent. | 1:12:30 | 1:12:34 | |
And he's another worker like that. | 1:12:34 | 1:12:36 | |
He'd be working and recording every day. | 1:12:36 | 1:12:39 | |
I had on my album that I wanted him to do...my character's album, | 1:12:39 | 1:12:46 | |
which was Get It. | 1:12:46 | 1:12:49 | |
So we sort of both did each other a favour, favour, favour. | 1:12:49 | 1:12:53 | |
But I made sure the song he did of mine I wrote. | 1:12:53 | 1:12:56 | |
HE LAUGHS | 1:12:56 | 1:12:58 | |
Yeah. | 1:12:58 | 1:12:59 | |
# My baby love me | 1:13:01 | 1:13:03 | |
-# I'm her doggone lover -You don't know... # | 1:13:03 | 1:13:07 | |
That one, we couldn't get the right song. | 1:13:07 | 1:13:09 | |
I know I didn't have the right song so... | 1:13:09 | 1:13:11 | |
If somebody says that didn't work, I know it didn't work. | 1:13:11 | 1:13:14 | |
-# Hoo-hooo! -Doot-Do-Do-Doo | 1:13:14 | 1:13:16 | |
-# Hoo-hooo! -Doot-Do-Do-Doo... # | 1:13:16 | 1:13:20 | |
-It's starting to get stinky now. -I can just punch that part in. | 1:13:20 | 1:13:23 | |
Excuse me? Great. | 1:13:23 | 1:13:25 | |
Can we go home? | 1:13:25 | 1:13:28 | |
-Is that it? -I just ran off, didn't I? | 1:13:28 | 1:13:32 | |
Another Part Of Me. My favourite cut on the Bad album. | 1:13:32 | 1:13:36 | |
All the instruments incorporated in that song, | 1:13:36 | 1:13:38 | |
as well as just his vocals, nobody can kind of, you know, teach that. | 1:13:38 | 1:13:42 | |
I think that's just natural. | 1:13:42 | 1:13:43 | |
So whatever he was on at that time, when he was just like, | 1:13:43 | 1:13:46 | |
"Yo, I'm in this. I feel this. I need to do this." | 1:13:46 | 1:13:49 | |
Like, I just think that's his blessing. | 1:13:49 | 1:13:51 | |
The song itself actually wasn't going to make it onto the album | 1:13:51 | 1:13:55 | |
because he'd recorded it earlier. | 1:13:55 | 1:13:56 | |
And he actually preferred a song called Streetwalker. | 1:13:56 | 1:13:59 | |
# Pretty baby I got kisses for you, lover | 1:13:59 | 1:14:03 | |
# I really get it when you're next to me... # | 1:14:03 | 1:14:06 | |
The litmus test is always, what song gets Michael dancing? | 1:14:06 | 1:14:09 | |
So when Quincy saw Michael dancing all round the studio to | 1:14:09 | 1:14:12 | |
Another Part Of Me said, "That's what makes this song go on the album." | 1:14:12 | 1:14:15 | |
Michael Jackson's Bad is black music, | 1:14:15 | 1:14:19 | |
dare I say, pop music's first stadium album. | 1:14:19 | 1:14:22 | |
Every song, I can hear it being thought of in his head as, | 1:14:22 | 1:14:27 | |
"This is what I want it to be | 1:14:27 | 1:14:30 | |
"when I perform it in front of 60,000 to 80,000 people." | 1:14:30 | 1:14:33 | |
Hey! Hey! Hey! | 1:14:33 | 1:14:35 | |
SHE SCREAMS | 1:14:44 | 1:14:46 | |
# We're taking over | 1:14:51 | 1:14:53 | |
# We have the truth | 1:14:53 | 1:14:56 | |
# This is a mission | 1:14:56 | 1:14:58 | |
# To see it through | 1:14:58 | 1:15:00 | |
# Don't point your finger | 1:15:00 | 1:15:02 | |
# Not dangerous | 1:15:02 | 1:15:04 | |
# This is my planet | 1:15:04 | 1:15:06 | |
# You're one of us | 1:15:06 | 1:15:09 | |
# We're sending out | 1:15:09 | 1:15:11 | |
# A major love | 1:15:11 | 1:15:13 | |
# And this is our | 1:15:13 | 1:15:15 | |
-# Message to you -Message to you | 1:15:15 | 1:15:17 | |
# The planets are lining up | 1:15:17 | 1:15:19 | |
# We're bringing brighter days | 1:15:19 | 1:15:21 | |
# They're all in line | 1:15:21 | 1:15:23 | |
# Waiting for you | 1:15:23 | 1:15:26 | |
# You're just another part of me | 1:15:26 | 1:15:30 | |
# Heee-heee | 1:15:30 | 1:15:33 | |
# Ow! | 1:15:33 | 1:15:34 | |
# Over the nation | 1:15:36 | 1:15:38 | |
# Fulfil the truth | 1:15:38 | 1:15:40 | |
# The final message | 1:15:40 | 1:15:42 | |
# We're bringing to you | 1:15:42 | 1:15:44 | |
# There is no danger | 1:15:44 | 1:15:46 | |
# Fulfil the truth | 1:15:46 | 1:15:48 | |
# So come together | 1:15:48 | 1:15:51 | |
# We mean you | 1:15:51 | 1:15:53 | |
# I'm sending out | 1:15:53 | 1:15:56 | |
# A major love | 1:15:56 | 1:15:58 | |
# And this is our | 1:15:58 | 1:16:00 | |
-# Message to you -Message to you | 1:16:00 | 1:16:02 | |
# The planets are lining up | 1:16:02 | 1:16:04 | |
# We're bringing brighter days | 1:16:04 | 1:16:06 | |
# They're all in line | 1:16:06 | 1:16:08 | |
# Waiting for you | 1:16:08 | 1:16:09 | |
# They're just another part of me | 1:16:11 | 1:16:14 | |
# Heee-heee | 1:16:15 | 1:16:17 | |
# Ow! | 1:16:17 | 1:16:18 | |
# Do-do-do-do | 1:16:21 | 1:16:23 | |
# Ow! | 1:16:36 | 1:16:37 | |
# Hee-hee-hee! | 1:16:44 | 1:16:46 | |
# Hee-hee-hee! | 1:16:46 | 1:16:48 | |
# I'm sending out | 1:16:53 | 1:16:55 | |
# A major love | 1:16:55 | 1:16:57 | |
# And this is my | 1:16:57 | 1:16:59 | |
-# Message to you -Message to you | 1:16:59 | 1:17:01 | |
# The planets are lining up | 1:17:01 | 1:17:03 | |
# We're bringing brighter days | 1:17:03 | 1:17:05 | |
# They're all in line | 1:17:05 | 1:17:07 | |
# Waiting for you | 1:17:07 | 1:17:09 | |
# They're just another part of me | 1:17:11 | 1:17:14 | |
# Hee-hee! | 1:17:14 | 1:17:16 | |
# Ow! | 1:17:16 | 1:17:17 | |
# Another part of me | 1:17:19 | 1:17:21 | |
# We're taking over | 1:17:27 | 1:17:30 | |
# This is my plan, baby | 1:17:37 | 1:17:39 | |
# Hee-hee! | 1:17:39 | 1:17:41 | |
# Ow! | 1:17:41 | 1:17:42 | |
# Another part of me. # | 1:18:10 | 1:18:12 | |
People forget that Michael Jackson's a soul singer. | 2:00:00 | 2:00:02 | |
Michael Jackson grew up watching Jackie Wilson, | 2:00:02 | 2:00:04 | |
James Brown and the whole circuit, | 2:00:04 | 2:00:06 | |
so his default move is always to go raw. | 2:00:06 | 2:00:10 | |
-I love Dirty Diana. That's probably one of my favourites. -Why? | 2:00:10 | 2:00:14 | |
Because it's a life story of a groupie, | 2:00:14 | 2:00:18 | |
I hate to say the word groupie but that's what it is, | 2:00:18 | 2:00:21 | |
and it's something that I've experienced | 2:00:21 | 2:00:24 | |
and a lot of people who grew up on the road. | 2:00:24 | 2:00:26 | |
Dirty Diana. | 2:00:26 | 2:00:28 | |
Who knew that one day I would live that song in real life | 2:00:28 | 2:00:31 | |
so many times over. | 2:00:31 | 2:00:33 | |
I like Dirty Diana. I've met her. I've met Dirty Diana many times. | 2:00:33 | 2:00:39 | |
Thank you. | 2:00:39 | 2:00:41 | |
Thank you, Michael, for making that small piece of the soundtrack | 2:00:41 | 2:00:44 | |
to my life on tour. | 2:00:44 | 2:00:45 | |
When we were kids, we thought, "Was he talking about Diana Ross? | 2:00:45 | 2:00:48 | |
"Did he have an affair with Diana Ross?" | 2:00:48 | 2:00:50 | |
No, that wasn't the case at all. | 2:00:50 | 2:00:52 | |
But as kids we didn't know what was going on. Who was Diana? | 2:00:52 | 2:00:54 | |
What she did dirty! | 2:00:54 | 2:00:55 | |
I got a phone call out of the clear blue from Quincy | 2:00:55 | 2:00:59 | |
and I thought somebody was fucking with me. | 2:00:59 | 2:01:01 | |
So he goes, "Um...it's Quincy Jones. | 2:01:01 | 2:01:05 | |
"We're working on Michael's follow-up to Thriller. We've got a rock track." | 2:01:05 | 2:01:09 | |
I'm not a session guitar player, man. | 2:01:09 | 2:01:11 | |
I don't, you know, I'm not that world. | 2:01:11 | 2:01:15 | |
So I said to Quincy, "The only thing I ask is that Michael | 2:01:15 | 2:01:18 | |
"be in the studio and we work together." | 2:01:18 | 2:01:20 | |
He said, "Of course he'll be in the studio. It's his fucking record, man. | 2:01:20 | 2:01:24 | |
"He's going to be in the studio." | 2:01:24 | 2:01:25 | |
I opened up the studio door in Westlake and three guys, | 2:01:25 | 2:01:30 | |
Bruce Swedien, the engineer, Quincy Jones and Michael Jackson, | 2:01:30 | 2:01:33 | |
and the first thing I noticed was Michael had penny loafers on | 2:01:33 | 2:01:37 | |
and they were like pristine and I was like, | 2:01:37 | 2:01:41 | |
"I'll be all right. He's wearing penny loafers." | 2:01:41 | 2:01:43 | |
This is the actual guitar that I recorded Dirty Diana with. | 2:01:43 | 2:01:46 | |
By and large, I'd say it's probably been in the case. | 2:01:46 | 2:01:49 | |
Maybe it's only been opened one time, | 2:01:49 | 2:01:51 | |
I don't really play this kind of guitar that much. | 2:01:51 | 2:01:54 | |
The backing track was about eight minutes long | 2:01:54 | 2:01:57 | |
and as the track is playing down, | 2:01:57 | 2:01:58 | |
Michael is like right here and he's going... | 2:01:58 | 2:02:00 | |
HE SINGS TUNE OF DIRTY DIANA | 2:02:00 | 2:02:03 | |
And he was really adamant there's that little space | 2:02:06 | 2:02:09 | |
on the third phrase, it's a subtle thing | 2:02:09 | 2:02:11 | |
and I didn't catch it right away. | 2:02:11 | 2:02:13 | |
That little thing was | 2:02:16 | 2:02:17 | |
so important to Michael, to catch that little space there. | 2:02:17 | 2:02:21 | |
I was like, "Why is he making such a big thing about it not playing?" | 2:02:21 | 2:02:25 | |
It's brilliant though. | 2:02:25 | 2:02:27 | |
It's as important what you don't play as what you do play. | 2:02:27 | 2:02:30 | |
# Dirty Diana, nah | 2:02:30 | 2:02:33 | |
# Dirty Diana, nah | 2:02:33 | 2:02:36 | |
# Dirty Diana, no | 2:02:36 | 2:02:40 | |
# Dirty Diana... # | 2:02:40 | 2:02:43 | |
It's still good. | 2:02:43 | 2:02:44 | |
# ..Dirty Diana, nah Dirty Diana, no... # | 2:02:44 | 2:02:51 | |
We wanted to do Dirty Diana | 2:02:51 | 2:02:53 | |
and so both videos were to kind of change | 2:02:53 | 2:02:56 | |
the public's perception of who he was. | 2:02:56 | 2:02:58 | |
First one was to get him a girl and the second was to make him | 2:02:58 | 2:03:01 | |
a heavy metal kind of guy. | 2:03:01 | 2:03:02 | |
# ...Diana! | 2:03:02 | 2:03:06 | |
# Diana...! # | 2:03:06 | 2:03:09 | |
The original idea was to have... | 2:03:09 | 2:03:11 | |
The thing finished in a monsoon or a rainstorm. | 2:03:11 | 2:03:14 | |
The second day, we were going to have the whole stage blow away | 2:03:14 | 2:03:18 | |
and have him finish in the rain totally... | 2:03:18 | 2:03:21 | |
The wind and rain and stuff, | 2:03:21 | 2:03:23 | |
and I think we were going to sweep away the audience and everything. | 2:03:23 | 2:03:26 | |
But the first day he was doing these knee slides and didn't put pads on. | 2:03:26 | 2:03:30 | |
He came to me the second day when we were ready for all this rain stuff | 2:03:30 | 2:03:34 | |
and said, "I can't dance any more." | 2:03:34 | 2:03:35 | |
So we couldn't resolve it that way, but it didn't matter. | 2:03:35 | 2:03:38 | |
You see the wind and stuff on the first day, | 2:03:38 | 2:03:40 | |
it starts, and I guess there was going to be a deluge after that. | 2:03:40 | 2:03:43 | |
They didn't even tell me that | 2:03:43 | 2:03:45 | |
the photo taken on the set would be the single sleeve, that cover. | 2:03:45 | 2:03:50 | |
It showed up one day and I went, "I can't... Are you kidding?" | 2:03:50 | 2:03:53 | |
Michael always was able to think outside the box of what | 2:03:53 | 2:03:57 | |
black artists were supposed to do and create his own space. | 2:03:57 | 2:04:01 | |
There was this internal mechanism that Michael had when he felt | 2:04:01 | 2:04:05 | |
the music. When the rhythms were right and when the beats were | 2:04:05 | 2:04:09 | |
happening, when the correct emphasis was happening and the syncopation, | 2:04:09 | 2:04:15 | |
he'd have to move, he'd have to dance and when he'd start to dance, | 2:04:15 | 2:04:19 | |
we would know that the balance was correct, the elements had | 2:04:19 | 2:04:24 | |
the right character, the syncopation was hitting in the right fashion. | 2:04:24 | 2:04:27 | |
Michael gave me the music and he said, "Listen, | 2:04:27 | 2:04:30 | |
"don't impose your opinion, or your feelings, or your choreography, | 2:04:30 | 2:04:35 | |
"or your thoughts on the music. | 2:04:35 | 2:04:37 | |
"Let the music talk to you and tell you what it wants to be." | 2:04:37 | 2:04:39 | |
First time we discussed it, he had got these | 2:04:39 | 2:04:44 | |
visions in his mind of what he wanted to do. | 2:04:44 | 2:04:46 | |
The robot, the car, the kids, the drugs. | 2:04:46 | 2:04:51 | |
Every kid in this whole world can take drugs because of me. | 2:04:51 | 2:04:54 | |
And how do we bring it all together into a story that had | 2:04:54 | 2:04:57 | |
a piece in the middle, which was the song and dance. | 2:04:57 | 2:05:00 | |
So we started working on some stuff, it was called Chicago Nights, | 2:05:00 | 2:05:03 | |
which was really Smooth Criminal. | 2:05:03 | 2:05:05 | |
He was a huge fan of Fred Astaire and wanted to make sure | 2:05:05 | 2:05:10 | |
that he paid homage to Fred Astaire in the movie. | 2:05:10 | 2:05:15 | |
"For Criminal Dance, look at all the great dances on tape. | 2:05:15 | 2:05:18 | |
"Study the great and become greater. | 2:05:18 | 2:05:22 | |
"Get all Bob Fosse movie, dances. | 2:05:22 | 2:05:25 | |
"Study these inside out, knowing every cut, move, music etc. | 2:05:25 | 2:05:30 | |
"Flashdance, All That Jazz, Band Wagon, girl hunt..." | 2:05:30 | 2:05:34 | |
JAZZ MUSIC PLAYS | 2:05:34 | 2:05:36 | |
This is a drawing titled "Criminal Jacket," | 2:06:23 | 2:06:27 | |
and you can see that he has created the basic outline for the jacket | 2:06:27 | 2:06:31 | |
that he wound up wearing in that short film, including the armband. | 2:06:31 | 2:06:36 | |
And he also made a note to himself that he needed to | 2:06:38 | 2:06:41 | |
get his Kenny shoes now so that he could break them in. | 2:06:41 | 2:06:44 | |
But when it came to style, I showed Michael an all-time favourite | 2:06:44 | 2:06:49 | |
of mine which was The Third Man, because it's sort of gangster-ish. | 2:06:49 | 2:06:52 | |
"We should shoot it in that kind of style," | 2:06:52 | 2:06:55 | |
and he just loved that style. | 2:06:55 | 2:06:57 | |
And making use of the shadows that they had with that | 2:06:57 | 2:06:59 | |
sort of film noir look. | 2:06:59 | 2:07:01 | |
# As he came into the window It was the sound of a crescendo | 2:07:22 | 2:07:25 | |
# He came into her apartment | 2:07:25 | 2:07:27 | |
# He left the bloodstains on the carpet | 2:07:27 | 2:07:30 | |
# She ran underneath the table He could see she was unable | 2:07:30 | 2:07:34 | |
# So she ran into the bedroom | 2:07:34 | 2:07:36 | |
# She was struck down It was her doom... # | 2:07:36 | 2:07:38 | |
There's a story actually that Quincy told me years ago | 2:07:38 | 2:07:42 | |
and what he said was that Michael had the ability to come in, he could | 2:07:42 | 2:07:45 | |
lay down the lead vocal of a track and then he could sit there, listen, | 2:07:45 | 2:07:50 | |
just put the time in and figure out where all the harmonies should go | 2:07:50 | 2:07:54 | |
and then do that, not leave until he had the harmonies right. | 2:07:54 | 2:08:00 | |
When I think of Smooth Criminal, I will just impress again the vocal. | 2:08:00 | 2:08:04 | |
He could sing bass, baritone and tenor, | 2:08:04 | 2:08:07 | |
but he chose to sing mostly tenor. | 2:08:07 | 2:08:09 | |
# Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. # | 2:08:09 | 2:08:12 | |
He goes straight down to bass low C, that is low, that is a bust out | 2:08:12 | 2:08:17 | |
pitch and Michael would go right on down there with vibrato | 2:08:17 | 2:08:21 | |
and clear up to a G above high C. | 2:08:21 | 2:08:24 | |
I mean, that's enormous, that's more than three and a half octaves. | 2:08:24 | 2:08:28 | |
He really didn't want to grow up. He wanted a child's voice | 2:08:28 | 2:08:32 | |
and I always tried to encourage him to use his beautiful speaking voice. | 2:08:32 | 2:08:36 | |
I was in Europe one time and the phone rang and he said, | 2:08:36 | 2:08:39 | |
"Hello," in a perfectly male voice, baritone and I said, | 2:08:39 | 2:08:43 | |
"Michael, why don't you use that." | 2:08:43 | 2:08:46 | |
He said, "I don't like it down there. I like it up there." | 2:08:46 | 2:08:49 | |
# Ah, ah, ah, ah, ah.... # | 2:08:49 | 2:08:51 | |
How long you want to stick with this? | 2:08:53 | 2:08:55 | |
I want to be all the way open. | 2:08:55 | 2:08:57 | |
With some of the songs that he was singing, | 2:08:57 | 2:08:59 | |
he needed a much wider vocal range and with the exercises that | 2:08:59 | 2:09:02 | |
Seth Riggs provides for him, it enabled | 2:09:02 | 2:09:07 | |
him to open up his range so he can sing much higher and much lower. | 2:09:07 | 2:09:12 | |
# Mah, mah, mah, mah, mah... # | 2:09:12 | 2:09:14 | |
I had to make sure he and his voice | 2:09:14 | 2:09:17 | |
was even from bottom to top. | 2:09:17 | 2:09:19 | |
I have some very strange exercises | 2:09:19 | 2:09:21 | |
that are different from most people's, | 2:09:21 | 2:09:24 | |
they're called speech-level singing, | 2:09:24 | 2:09:26 | |
so we started doing these crazy things. | 2:09:26 | 2:09:29 | |
# Brrr-brrr-brrr... # | 2:09:29 | 2:09:30 | |
# Brrr-brrr-brrr... # | 2:09:30 | 2:09:33 | |
# Rrr-rrr-rrr... # | 2:09:33 | 2:09:35 | |
# Rrr-rrr-rrr... # | 2:09:35 | 2:09:38 | |
# Gee, gee, gee, gee, gee, gee... # | 2:09:38 | 2:09:41 | |
# Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh... # | 2:09:41 | 2:09:45 | |
Sometimes there is... | 2:09:45 | 2:09:46 | |
# Ahhhhh... # | 2:09:46 | 2:09:48 | |
I sampled P.Y.T for Good Life. | 2:09:52 | 2:09:54 | |
I actually met him at Leo's house. | 2:09:54 | 2:09:57 | |
He said he liked my voice and then | 2:09:57 | 2:09:58 | |
I think I took that too seriously | 2:09:58 | 2:10:00 | |
and I did a whole singing album. HE LAUGHS | 2:10:00 | 2:10:02 | |
This is the mic that are used on Michael at about this distance | 2:10:02 | 2:10:09 | |
through for all the recordings. | 2:10:09 | 2:10:12 | |
Except one, Earth Song. | 2:10:12 | 2:10:14 | |
-# What about yesterday? -What about us? | 2:10:14 | 2:10:17 | |
-# What about the seas? -What about us? -# | 2:10:17 | 2:10:21 | |
This is actually a mic that is designed for narration recording, | 2:10:21 | 2:10:25 | |
however, I knew that the sound of this mic would work | 2:10:25 | 2:10:30 | |
well with Michael's voice. | 2:10:30 | 2:10:32 | |
# Annie, are you OK? | 2:10:32 | 2:10:34 | |
# Annie, are you OK? Are you OK, Annie? | 2:10:34 | 2:10:36 | |
# Annie, are you OK? Annie, are you OK? | 2:10:36 | 2:10:39 | |
# Are you OK, Annie? # | 2:10:39 | 2:10:41 | |
I've never quite understood who Annie was and why did it matter | 2:10:41 | 2:10:45 | |
if she was OK or not. | 2:10:45 | 2:10:47 | |
Who is Annie? I never knew that as a kid. Let me know who Annie is. | 2:10:47 | 2:10:50 | |
Over in this corner there was a green fibreglass case | 2:10:50 | 2:10:55 | |
and there was a CPR dummy in the case. | 2:10:55 | 2:10:59 | |
Michael had been given CPR lessons. | 2:10:59 | 2:11:01 | |
The first thing that you do when you're going to administer CPR | 2:11:01 | 2:11:05 | |
is you make a determination of the condition of the victim. | 2:11:05 | 2:11:09 | |
He's about to do CPR on someone, he's like, "Are you OK? Are you OK?" | 2:11:09 | 2:11:13 | |
Wow! Whose life did he think he was going to have to save? | 2:11:13 | 2:11:17 | |
HE LAUGHS | 2:11:17 | 2:11:19 | |
CPR dummies are all named Annie. | 2:11:19 | 2:11:21 | |
He just kept asking was Annie OK? | 2:11:21 | 2:11:24 | |
How many different ways can you say, "Annie, are you OK?" | 2:11:24 | 2:11:27 | |
And he found like 15 different ways to say, "Annie, are you OK?" | 2:11:27 | 2:11:30 | |
It's like, "Are you OK? Are you OK? Are you OK? Are you OK, Annie? | 2:11:30 | 2:11:35 | |
"Annie, are you OK? Are you OK? Are you OK, Annie? Annie, are you OK?" | 2:11:35 | 2:11:40 | |
It's like, OK, I don't think she's OK. | 2:11:40 | 2:11:42 | |
I've got to be honest, I was never a big fan of that song. | 2:11:42 | 2:11:46 | |
You know, Michael loved it to pieces. | 2:11:46 | 2:11:49 | |
I remember we went to do the video on that, I never heard... | 2:11:49 | 2:11:53 | |
It must have then 135 decibels. Loud! Man, ears were falling off. | 2:11:53 | 2:11:57 | |
We started with maybe like 10 or 12 dancers and he then | 2:12:03 | 2:12:06 | |
introduced me to Jeffrey and he said, "I'd like Jeffrey to be | 2:12:06 | 2:12:09 | |
"part of this and maybe there's some street stuff, because I've been | 2:12:09 | 2:12:13 | |
"working with Jeffrey privately and he is teaching me some staff." | 2:12:13 | 2:12:16 | |
The thing about it is Michael can go out to clubs and hang out | 2:12:16 | 2:12:18 | |
because he's Michael Jackson. | 2:12:18 | 2:12:20 | |
So through me he was picking up what was happening in the hood | 2:12:20 | 2:12:24 | |
and I'm taking it to his gallery over at the Jackson house in Hayvenhurst. | 2:12:24 | 2:12:27 | |
My name is Phyllis Brooks | 2:12:27 | 2:12:29 | |
and I want to direct my question to all you guys. | 2:12:29 | 2:12:31 | |
Who taught you guys your dance steps? | 2:12:31 | 2:12:34 | |
# She's gonna really blow your mind... # | 2:12:34 | 2:12:40 | |
This one guy I saw on the show, Don Campbell, he changed my life. | 2:12:55 | 2:12:59 | |
He did not dance like everybody else, | 2:12:59 | 2:13:01 | |
he didn't move like everybody else, he was | 2:13:01 | 2:13:03 | |
just walking to the beat, walking. Walking. Walking. | 2:13:03 | 2:13:07 | |
Jump up, stop, stick out his own hand, give him some five, | 2:13:07 | 2:13:11 | |
hunch his shoulders, point it, pop. | 2:13:11 | 2:13:13 | |
And that was locking. | 2:13:16 | 2:13:17 | |
You could see Michael doing like... | 2:13:17 | 2:13:20 | |
You could see him doing those... | 2:13:23 | 2:13:24 | |
He's putting this locking in his... | 2:13:24 | 2:13:27 | |
He was just incorporating little things into his... | 2:13:27 | 2:13:30 | |
Stepping like that, you know. | 2:13:30 | 2:13:32 | |
Funky chicken, that's the funky chicken, | 2:13:32 | 2:13:35 | |
so these dances came from Soul Train too. | 2:13:35 | 2:13:38 | |
Michael Jackson, he loves it, | 2:13:38 | 2:13:39 | |
he loves the locking, he loves the popping. | 2:13:39 | 2:13:42 | |
When you see him on stage and he is ticking, | 2:13:42 | 2:13:47 | |
Michael is deep into the urban contemporary dance because I don't | 2:13:47 | 2:13:51 | |
call it street dance no more. It left the streets years ago. | 2:13:51 | 2:13:54 | |
I'd created movement for Michael from his passage in to his passage out. | 2:13:59 | 2:14:03 | |
There were a couple of places where I said, "OK, you know, Jeffrey, | 2:14:26 | 2:14:29 | |
"why don't you do this? When he comes around the pool table, | 2:14:29 | 2:14:32 | |
"I'd love you to do something here and make this work over here." | 2:14:32 | 2:14:35 | |
I'd got this from a Bugs Bunny cartoon. | 2:14:43 | 2:14:45 | |
These gangsters with these gangster hats | 2:14:45 | 2:14:47 | |
and they are all bouncing like this, coming. | 2:14:47 | 2:14:49 | |
I was just trying to capture that kind of animated thing. | 2:14:49 | 2:14:53 | |
OK, here we go, same thing. Boom, boom. | 2:14:53 | 2:14:56 | |
And again right after the hat, I think it's the hand. Boom, boom. | 2:14:56 | 2:15:01 | |
Bang! | 2:15:01 | 2:15:03 | |
Ba, ba, ba, ba, ba! | 2:15:03 | 2:15:05 | |
Bang, bang, boom! | 2:15:05 | 2:15:06 | |
Some of the moves they did... | 2:15:06 | 2:15:07 | |
Maybe you'll find out. I still don't know how they did that thing. | 2:15:07 | 2:15:11 | |
The whole thing with the lean - I had done the lean | 2:15:16 | 2:15:20 | |
in a Paul McCartney movie called Give My Regards To Broad Street. | 2:15:20 | 2:15:23 | |
When I'm on the plane, when we take private jets, | 2:15:30 | 2:15:33 | |
we always, when it's taking off, | 2:15:33 | 2:15:34 | |
we lean forward to try to do the same move as Michael, | 2:15:34 | 2:15:37 | |
so it kind of looks the same! | 2:15:37 | 2:15:39 | |
So what, you want to know how it was done? | 2:15:39 | 2:15:43 | |
Even to this day, | 2:15:43 | 2:15:44 | |
I will reference the Smooth Criminal lean... | 2:15:44 | 2:15:48 | |
..and people instantly know what I'm talking about. | 2:15:50 | 2:15:52 | |
There was a break in Smooth Criminal that was never supposed to be there. | 2:15:52 | 2:15:55 | |
The music breaks down. | 2:15:55 | 2:15:57 | |
Everything gets cool. | 2:15:57 | 2:16:00 | |
They show a cat walking across the piano, the lights go blue. | 2:16:00 | 2:16:03 | |
We did not know about this. | 2:16:03 | 2:16:05 | |
Ssh! | 2:16:05 | 2:16:07 | |
-Oh! O-o-oh! -O-o-o-oh! | 2:16:19 | 2:16:24 | |
For that break in the middle, | 2:16:25 | 2:16:27 | |
he just wanted to let the dancers feel the set. | 2:16:27 | 2:16:30 | |
I mean, we'd been shooting for quite a while by then, | 2:16:30 | 2:16:33 | |
and he just said, you know, "I don't want anything to disturb us," | 2:16:33 | 2:16:36 | |
and I said, I was shooting five cameras at the time, | 2:16:36 | 2:16:39 | |
plus Jerry had five cameras, | 2:16:39 | 2:16:41 | |
so it was ten cameras shooting | 2:16:41 | 2:16:43 | |
and you know, we didn't know how long it was going to go on for. | 2:16:43 | 2:16:46 | |
-THEY WHISPER: -Annie, are OK? Are you OK, Annie? | 2:16:48 | 2:16:51 | |
Annie, are you OK? So Annie, are you OK? Are you OK, Annie? | 2:16:51 | 2:16:54 | |
-BUILDING: -Annie, are you OK? So Annie, are you OK? | 2:16:54 | 2:16:58 | |
Are you OK, Annie? | 2:16:58 | 2:16:59 | |
Annie, are you OK? So Annie, are you OK? Are you OK, Annie? | 2:16:59 | 2:17:03 | |
Annie, are you OK? So, Annie... | 2:17:03 | 2:17:04 | |
A lot of the songs he writes about being observed, | 2:17:17 | 2:17:19 | |
either from the point of view of, he's the object | 2:17:19 | 2:17:22 | |
or that he becomes the person looking at someone like him, | 2:17:22 | 2:17:26 | |
or the objective person. | 2:17:26 | 2:17:28 | |
# Are you OK? Are you OK, Annie? | 2:17:28 | 2:17:30 | |
# Annie, are you OK? So Annie, are you OK? | 2:17:30 | 2:17:33 | |
# Are you OK, Annie? | 2:17:33 | 2:17:34 | |
# Annie, are you OK? So Annie, are you OK? | 2:17:34 | 2:17:37 | |
# Are you OK, Annie? You've been hit by... # | 2:17:37 | 2:17:40 | |
For someone who grew up in the spotlight, | 2:17:40 | 2:17:42 | |
being watched is a very big part of how you see the world. | 2:17:42 | 2:17:45 | |
This is a guy who | 2:17:45 | 2:17:47 | |
was never not in the newspapers | 2:17:47 | 2:17:49 | |
every single day | 2:17:49 | 2:17:51 | |
being ridiculed, "Wacko Jacko," | 2:17:51 | 2:17:53 | |
I mean, he's a kid - on the inside, he's a kid. | 2:17:53 | 2:17:55 | |
How that stuff doesn't penetrate you and hurt you, hurt your spirit. | 2:17:55 | 2:17:59 | |
"Michael Jackson's got a shrine to Elizabeth Taylor. | 2:17:59 | 2:18:02 | |
"He's got an amusement park. He's had a lot of facial surgery," | 2:18:02 | 2:18:05 | |
so I said, "Michael, when you're in the school yard | 2:18:05 | 2:18:08 | |
"and you are the smallest and you get teased a lot, | 2:18:08 | 2:18:11 | |
"it's really only fun to tease you if it bothers you. | 2:18:11 | 2:18:13 | |
"If it doesn't bother you, they move on, | 2:18:13 | 2:18:16 | |
"so why don't we just take all this crap being said about you | 2:18:16 | 2:18:21 | |
"and why don't we say at? Why don't we put it to visuals?" | 2:18:21 | 2:18:24 | |
Leave Me Alone - it was a lot of fun to play that. It had that intro. | 2:18:24 | 2:18:28 | |
But there was also a string part | 2:18:36 | 2:18:37 | |
that kind of played the same thing but was just accenting that... | 2:18:37 | 2:18:40 | |
And he was just kind of saying, "Dig in," you know. | 2:18:40 | 2:18:43 | |
I remember him standing right next to me, going... | 2:18:45 | 2:18:48 | |
See, a lot of people that misunderstand me, | 2:18:52 | 2:18:54 | |
it's because they don't know me. | 2:18:54 | 2:18:57 | |
I guess that's true. | 2:18:57 | 2:18:59 | |
People probably have a lot of crazy stories they read. | 2:18:59 | 2:19:02 | |
You ever want to lash out in any type of way | 2:19:02 | 2:19:05 | |
and say, "Hey, that's not true"? | 2:19:05 | 2:19:07 | |
Yeah, a lot of times. | 2:19:07 | 2:19:08 | |
# I don't care what you talking about, baby, | 2:19:08 | 2:19:11 | |
# I don't care what you think... # | 2:19:11 | 2:19:14 | |
You can see, you know, | 2:19:14 | 2:19:16 | |
how he's starting to feel like he's a spectacle. | 2:19:16 | 2:19:19 | |
In the video, he's tied down. | 2:19:19 | 2:19:22 | |
It's inspired by Gulliver's Travels | 2:19:22 | 2:19:24 | |
and he's tied under a roller coaster | 2:19:24 | 2:19:27 | |
and you see these dogs with corporate suits, | 2:19:27 | 2:19:29 | |
banging the pegs, trying to tie him down | 2:19:29 | 2:19:32 | |
in this big kind of amusement park setting. | 2:19:32 | 2:19:35 | |
I only got a glimpse of what his life must have been like | 2:19:36 | 2:19:39 | |
when I would be in Europe | 2:19:39 | 2:19:41 | |
and our limousines would be attacked by mobs, | 2:19:41 | 2:19:44 | |
with them thinking that Michael was in our limousine | 2:19:44 | 2:19:47 | |
and if that's your initial introduction to the universe, | 2:19:47 | 2:19:51 | |
when you're a five-year-old, | 2:19:51 | 2:19:53 | |
then that has got to inform what you feel like the world is like. | 2:19:53 | 2:19:58 | |
I'm waiting for Michael, and a guy comes up | 2:19:58 | 2:20:00 | |
and I don't see Michael. He goes, "Hi, Jeffrey, how you doing?" | 2:20:00 | 2:20:03 | |
"All right." He says, "Are you ready to start?" | 2:20:03 | 2:20:05 | |
I go, "Yeah," but I'm not looking at Michael. | 2:20:05 | 2:20:07 | |
I'm looking at these bushy eyebrows, | 2:20:07 | 2:20:09 | |
a short Afro wig and these sideburns and this make-up on. | 2:20:09 | 2:20:13 | |
Michael had been out going door-to-door | 2:20:13 | 2:20:15 | |
for his Jehovah's Witnesses. He put on a disguise, | 2:20:15 | 2:20:18 | |
so people wouldn't know Michael Jackson was knocking on their door. | 2:20:18 | 2:20:21 | |
I'm sure some people were slamming the door in his face, | 2:20:21 | 2:20:23 | |
like, "Jehovah's Witness, get out of here!" | 2:20:23 | 2:20:25 | |
Sometimes I want to sneak into places | 2:20:25 | 2:20:28 | |
and not have any hoopla or, you know... | 2:20:28 | 2:20:32 | |
and it doesn't work all the time. | 2:20:32 | 2:20:35 | |
I went to the shrine auditorium | 2:20:35 | 2:20:36 | |
and a guy tapped me on the back | 2:20:36 | 2:20:39 | |
and I turned around and it was an old man. | 2:20:39 | 2:20:42 | |
I said, "What is this?" He said, "It's Michael!" | 2:20:42 | 2:20:45 | |
I said, "Man, you scared the mess out of me!" | 2:20:45 | 2:20:49 | |
I have incredible disguises. | 2:20:49 | 2:20:50 | |
I can fool my own mother | 2:20:50 | 2:20:53 | |
and I enjoy doing it | 2:20:53 | 2:20:56 | |
because I get to see life the way it really is sometimes. | 2:20:56 | 2:20:59 | |
One day, he said, "You know, my brothers are in town | 2:20:59 | 2:21:02 | |
"so I'm going to see them tonight." I said, "That's cool, all right." | 2:21:02 | 2:21:05 | |
So the next day I came onto the set | 2:21:05 | 2:21:07 | |
and Michael goes, "Yeah, I waited for my brothers all night. | 2:21:07 | 2:21:10 | |
"I fixed my hair and everything but they didn't show up." | 2:21:10 | 2:21:14 | |
Sorry this bothers me, | 2:21:15 | 2:21:18 | |
but he said, "I would give anything just to be able to go to a party | 2:21:18 | 2:21:22 | |
"and stand in a corner somewhere, | 2:21:22 | 2:21:24 | |
"stand behind a curtain and put my head out and be able to see | 2:21:24 | 2:21:28 | |
"what it's like for real people to just be real people." | 2:21:28 | 2:21:31 | |
# The choice that we make and the choice you will take | 2:21:31 | 2:21:34 | |
# Who's laughing, baby? | 2:21:34 | 2:21:37 | |
# Just leave me alone | 2:21:37 | 2:21:39 | |
# Leave me alone! Leave me alone... # | 2:21:39 | 2:21:41 | |
When you see that film, | 2:21:41 | 2:21:43 | |
with all of those images, | 2:21:43 | 2:21:45 | |
every image that you see of Michael | 2:21:45 | 2:21:47 | |
started out as 35mm movie film, | 2:21:47 | 2:21:49 | |
which then turned into a stack of photo prints this tall, | 2:21:49 | 2:21:53 | |
which people sat around for two weeks, cutting out. | 2:21:53 | 2:21:58 | |
There was one guy whose job was just cutting out Michael's hair. | 2:21:58 | 2:22:01 | |
The Charlie Chaplin ball and chain idea was Michael's. | 2:22:01 | 2:22:06 | |
We knew we had a sequence where | 2:22:06 | 2:22:08 | |
we wanted to have a dance sequence with the Elephant Man's bones, | 2:22:08 | 2:22:11 | |
and so Michael showed up the day of the shoot with that piece. | 2:22:11 | 2:22:14 | |
Leave Me Alone was extremely ahead of its time. | 2:22:17 | 2:22:22 | |
Leave Me Alone was my favourite video and song off that album. | 2:22:23 | 2:22:26 | |
Just, even the amusement park setup | 2:22:26 | 2:22:29 | |
and the way they chop the graphics up. | 2:22:29 | 2:22:31 | |
There is nothing that compares to that, even to this day, | 2:22:31 | 2:22:35 | |
as far as visuals go. | 2:22:35 | 2:22:37 | |
Michael's quest for creative independence, | 2:22:38 | 2:22:40 | |
which started when he and his brothers left Motown, | 2:22:40 | 2:22:43 | |
continued through Off The Wall and Thriller, | 2:22:43 | 2:22:46 | |
reached a high point with the Bad album and the Bad tour. | 2:22:46 | 2:22:49 | |
He didn't tour with Thriller, | 2:22:49 | 2:22:51 | |
and then with Bad, he finally had an opportunity | 2:22:51 | 2:22:53 | |
to create the kind of show he wanted to create, | 2:22:53 | 2:22:55 | |
the kind of show that represented him as a solo artist. | 2:22:55 | 2:22:57 | |
It was Michael's first solo tour | 2:22:57 | 2:23:00 | |
and in fact, it was the only tour in the US that Michael ever conducted. | 2:23:00 | 2:23:04 | |
What a night! What a crowd, | 2:23:04 | 2:23:06 | |
what a gig, what a venue. | 2:23:06 | 2:23:07 | |
Who'd have thought Wembley Stadium, | 2:23:07 | 2:23:09 | |
the home of Live Aid, the home of Nelson Mandela | 2:23:09 | 2:23:12 | |
and now, the home of the king of it all! | 2:23:12 | 2:23:15 | |
It's a gruelling tour. | 2:23:17 | 2:23:19 | |
It starts in September 1987 and goes until January 1989. | 2:23:19 | 2:23:23 | |
He did 15 different countries, | 2:23:23 | 2:23:26 | |
123 different shows, | 2:23:26 | 2:23:28 | |
and it proved to be one of the most successful concert tours in history. | 2:23:28 | 2:23:31 | |
The Bad world tour set three Guinness Book of World Records. | 2:23:31 | 2:23:35 | |
One was the highest grossing tour of all time, | 2:23:35 | 2:23:38 | |
the most attended tour in history | 2:23:38 | 2:23:40 | |
and then, the shows that he did at Wembley in London | 2:23:40 | 2:23:43 | |
were the most consecutive shows an artist had ever sold out in history. | 2:23:43 | 2:23:47 | |
The tour generated a lot of income | 2:23:47 | 2:23:49 | |
and Michael Jackson donated a lot of that income | 2:23:49 | 2:23:52 | |
to charities of his choice. | 2:23:52 | 2:23:53 | |
We're making a very, very large contribution | 2:23:53 | 2:23:56 | |
to the Prince's Trust fund | 2:23:56 | 2:23:57 | |
and it will go to the Ormond Street Hospital. | 2:23:57 | 2:24:00 | |
Camp Goodtimes, Ronald McDonald House... | 2:24:00 | 2:24:02 | |
The United Negro College Fund | 2:24:02 | 2:24:04 | |
and the Burns Center, the Michael Jackson Burns Center. | 2:24:04 | 2:24:07 | |
I love you! | 2:24:07 | 2:24:08 | |
CHEERING | 2:24:08 | 2:24:11 | |
This is hard, um... | 2:24:19 | 2:24:22 | |
My brother, the legendary King Of Pop, Michael Jackson, | 2:24:22 | 2:24:27 | |
passed away on Thursday, June 25, | 2:24:27 | 2:24:29 | |
2009 at 2.26pm. | 2:24:29 | 2:24:33 | |
I... | 2:24:33 | 2:24:35 | |
had performed about a year or so before then in Australia, | 2:24:35 | 2:24:40 | |
and I remember having this dream | 2:24:40 | 2:24:43 | |
that I was listening to the radio and... | 2:24:43 | 2:24:46 | |
..on the radio came that Michael Jackson had died. | 2:24:47 | 2:24:50 | |
Then I woke up, you know, sweating and nervous | 2:24:50 | 2:24:53 | |
and just really going crazy. | 2:24:53 | 2:24:54 | |
Where were you when you heard Michael died? | 2:24:54 | 2:24:57 | |
Um, I was in Montreal. | 2:24:57 | 2:24:59 | |
I was directing a project for Cirque du Soleil. | 2:24:59 | 2:25:02 | |
I was sitting here in this chair in this room. | 2:25:02 | 2:25:06 | |
I was in Savannah, Georgia. | 2:25:06 | 2:25:08 | |
I was at my own studio. | 2:25:08 | 2:25:10 | |
When he died, I was supposed to go meet him. | 2:25:10 | 2:25:12 | |
I was supposed to see him at the Staples Centre. | 2:25:12 | 2:25:14 | |
I think I was in a car. | 2:25:14 | 2:25:16 | |
I was actually driving in the car. | 2:25:16 | 2:25:18 | |
I know I was home that day. | 2:25:18 | 2:25:19 | |
So I turned on the radio. | 2:25:19 | 2:25:21 | |
Then I hear... | 2:25:22 | 2:25:23 | |
I was on a radio promo tour and I was just in the car, | 2:25:23 | 2:25:26 | |
going to my next radio station. | 2:25:26 | 2:25:28 | |
I was on the set. | 2:25:28 | 2:25:29 | |
I was shooting...um, Boardwalk Empire. | 2:25:29 | 2:25:34 | |
At my job, Late Night With Jimmy Fallon. | 2:25:34 | 2:25:37 | |
I was in London, going to get some bottled water from the store. | 2:25:37 | 2:25:41 | |
I was at my house in LA. | 2:25:41 | 2:25:43 | |
Los Angeles. No, no, no. I was in Panama. | 2:25:43 | 2:25:47 | |
I was actually working. | 2:25:47 | 2:25:49 | |
I had a Blackberry I picked up in Moscow and the person said, | 2:25:49 | 2:25:54 | |
"He's gone." | 2:25:54 | 2:25:55 | |
Wow. I was in Sony when I heard Michael Jackson passed. | 2:25:55 | 2:26:03 | |
I was in my office, having an audition with some artists. | 2:26:03 | 2:26:08 | |
My doorman said to me, | 2:26:08 | 2:26:10 | |
"Mrs Robinson, Michael Jackson died". | 2:26:10 | 2:26:12 | |
Actually, my security guard at that time came in and told me that | 2:26:12 | 2:26:16 | |
and he's just wrong all the time. | 2:26:16 | 2:26:18 | |
I just didn't buy into it for one second. | 2:26:18 | 2:26:20 | |
I couldn't believe it and there was nothing on the news up there, | 2:26:20 | 2:26:23 | |
telling me that this was true. | 2:26:23 | 2:26:25 | |
I said, "What? Come on... Don't listen to that." | 2:26:25 | 2:26:27 | |
I didn't believe it. | 2:26:27 | 2:26:28 | |
It just didn't seem real. | 2:26:28 | 2:26:30 | |
I thought it was...a lie. | 2:26:30 | 2:26:32 | |
I couldn't believe it. | 2:26:32 | 2:26:33 | |
People must've called, I must've gotten 50 calls. | 2:26:33 | 2:26:35 | |
Don't call me and tell me that! | 2:26:35 | 2:26:39 | |
Because it's not true! | 2:26:39 | 2:26:40 | |
I think I started crying on the spot. | 2:26:40 | 2:26:42 | |
I couldn't even breathe, man. | 2:26:42 | 2:26:44 | |
I couldn't even breathe, I just collapsed right there on the ground. | 2:26:44 | 2:26:47 | |
We all kind of stayed in a daze. | 2:26:47 | 2:26:49 | |
Everything just became a blur. | 2:26:49 | 2:26:51 | |
I immediately called my friend Bruce Swedien... | 2:26:53 | 2:26:57 | |
and he was in shock as well. | 2:26:57 | 2:26:59 | |
Everything stopped. Couldn't do anything. | 2:26:59 | 2:27:02 | |
(Sorry.) | 2:27:21 | 2:27:22 | |
It was like... | 2:27:26 | 2:27:28 | |
Sorry. | 2:27:30 | 2:27:31 | |
Sorry, man. I... | 2:27:34 | 2:27:36 | |
I really loved the guy. | 2:27:36 | 2:27:38 | |
I miss his hugs. | 2:27:59 | 2:28:01 | |
Just his friendship. | 2:28:01 | 2:28:04 | |
Um... | 2:28:04 | 2:28:07 | |
Just being around him. | 2:28:07 | 2:28:09 | |
Uh... | 2:28:09 | 2:28:11 | |
Just to know he's around. | 2:28:11 | 2:28:13 | |
And I had just seen Berry Gordy several days earlier | 2:28:13 | 2:28:16 | |
and we sat at the Mandarin Oriental hotel and we were just talking | 2:28:16 | 2:28:21 | |
and I said, "Think Michael's going to do those shows in London?" | 2:28:21 | 2:28:26 | |
And he went, "I don't know." | 2:28:26 | 2:28:27 | |
I, er, was at the funeral, and I sang... | 2:28:27 | 2:28:32 | |
I've never sung at a funeral before, ever. | 2:28:32 | 2:28:34 | |
So, this is Michael Jackson's funeral, and they come in | 2:28:34 | 2:28:38 | |
and go, "Mariah, you're on first." | 2:28:38 | 2:28:40 | |
I Never Dreamed You'd Leave In Summer was a song that myself | 2:28:40 | 2:28:43 | |
and Syreeta Wright - | 2:28:43 | 2:28:45 | |
well, she was my first wife, Syreeta - wrote together. | 2:28:45 | 2:28:49 | |
When I sang it, at Michael's...homecoming service, | 2:28:49 | 2:28:55 | |
I never, ever imagined that I would be outliving Michael Jackson. | 2:28:55 | 2:29:01 | |
Um... | 2:29:01 | 2:29:02 | |
It's very, very painful. | 2:29:02 | 2:29:03 | |
It's still unbelievable to me that he's actually dead | 2:29:03 | 2:29:07 | |
and we should all be ashamed. Each of us to a one. | 2:29:07 | 2:29:11 | |
And I don't know who to look at. | 2:29:11 | 2:29:14 | |
Michael said, I guess, look at the man in the mirror. | 2:29:14 | 2:29:16 | |
Just like when John Lennon died, people turned to Imagine, | 2:29:16 | 2:29:20 | |
when Michael Jackson died, people turned to Man In The Mirror. | 2:29:20 | 2:29:23 | |
It really doesn't have that inspirational pop anthem on it, | 2:29:37 | 2:29:40 | |
like Greatest Love of All, Whitney Houston, Saving All My Love For You, | 2:29:40 | 2:29:43 | |
that kind of thing, and it's interesting that Bad does. | 2:29:43 | 2:29:47 | |
We kept talking about how nice it would be to get an anthem | 2:29:47 | 2:29:50 | |
that had a good feel to it, you know, just like | 2:29:50 | 2:29:52 | |
some sunshine on the world. | 2:29:52 | 2:29:53 | |
So he called a meeting with his West Coast songwriters, | 2:29:53 | 2:29:56 | |
I think there were like, six of us. | 2:29:56 | 2:29:58 | |
He said he wanted something upbeat, | 2:29:58 | 2:30:00 | |
he said he wanted something that felt good... | 2:30:00 | 2:30:03 | |
Whitney Houston's second solo album was storming the charts | 2:30:03 | 2:30:06 | |
and I think she provided a little bit of heat, | 2:30:06 | 2:30:09 | |
and I think that the label was concerned about how to kind of | 2:30:09 | 2:30:12 | |
appeal to this audience that had gravitated to Whitney Houston. | 2:30:12 | 2:30:16 | |
Went to Glen Ballard's house, who was my writing partner at the time, | 2:30:16 | 2:30:20 | |
I said, "This is what Quincy wants". | 2:30:20 | 2:30:21 | |
He said, "Well, let's just see what we come up with". | 2:30:21 | 2:30:23 | |
He stands up, goes over to the keyboard, | 2:30:23 | 2:30:25 | |
turns on the keyboard | 2:30:25 | 2:30:27 | |
and starts playing... | 2:30:27 | 2:30:29 | |
HE PLAYS INTRO | 2:30:29 | 2:30:30 | |
So I'm flipping through my lyric book... | 2:30:30 | 2:30:33 | |
While he's playing these... | 2:30:33 | 2:30:35 | |
Just getting sounds on the keyboard. | 2:30:35 | 2:30:37 | |
Cut to two years before this meeting. | 2:30:37 | 2:30:40 | |
I'm writing with John Beasley, jazz pianist. | 2:30:40 | 2:30:42 | |
His phone rings, | 2:30:42 | 2:30:43 | |
and he picked the phone up instead of letting the machine pick it up. | 2:30:43 | 2:30:47 | |
"Yeah, what's happening? I'm not doing nothing. | 2:30:47 | 2:30:50 | |
And I'm thinking, "He's doing something!" | 2:30:50 | 2:30:53 | |
And I'm flipping through my book, | 2:30:53 | 2:30:55 | |
no, he didn't say he's not doing nothing. No, he didn't. | 2:30:55 | 2:30:57 | |
So I'm flipping through this book and I hear him say, "The man?" | 2:30:57 | 2:31:01 | |
"What man? Oh, the man in the mirror." | 2:31:01 | 2:31:05 | |
I wrote, "man in the mirror". | 2:31:05 | 2:31:08 | |
So two years later, I'm at Glen's house and the phrase | 2:31:08 | 2:31:11 | |
"man in the mirror" just popped out at me | 2:31:11 | 2:31:14 | |
and I started writing these lyrics | 2:31:14 | 2:31:17 | |
that I couldn't write them fast enough, | 2:31:17 | 2:31:20 | |
I couldn't get it all out fast enough and in like, 15 minutes, | 2:31:20 | 2:31:23 | |
we had the first verse and the chorus for Man In The Mirror. | 2:31:23 | 2:31:27 | |
"I'm certain there will be a change | 2:31:27 | 2:31:30 | |
"and starting with that man in the mirror..." | 2:31:30 | 2:31:32 | |
The lyrics evolved into what they are, | 2:31:32 | 2:31:34 | |
but these are the humble beginnings. | 2:31:34 | 2:31:37 | |
Glen said, "You go finish the lyrics, | 2:31:37 | 2:31:40 | |
"and I'll finish the track and we'll demo the song on Friday". | 2:31:40 | 2:31:43 | |
Friday night we finished it after the Quest publishing was closed. | 2:31:43 | 2:31:47 | |
# I'm starting with the man in the mirror | 2:31:47 | 2:31:51 | |
# I'm asking him to change his ways... # | 2:31:52 | 2:31:56 | |
So I called Quincy at home. | 2:31:56 | 2:31:58 | |
He said, "I'm having a meeting, I can't... | 2:31:58 | 2:32:01 | |
"You can't drop it off. Just take it to the office on Monday." | 2:32:01 | 2:32:04 | |
I said, "I... | 2:32:04 | 2:32:06 | |
"I can't wait till Monday. | 2:32:08 | 2:32:10 | |
"Let me just, let me just drop it... "Sied..." "Quincy, let me just..." | 2:32:10 | 2:32:13 | |
"All right, shit." | 2:32:13 | 2:32:15 | |
And I go to his house... | 2:32:15 | 2:32:17 | |
I give Quincy this really quickly, this cassette, I say just, | 2:32:17 | 2:32:21 | |
"All I ask is you just call me as soon as..." | 2:32:21 | 2:32:25 | |
He said, "All right, shit". | 2:32:25 | 2:32:27 | |
Two, three hours later, I get a call and Quincy goes, | 2:32:27 | 2:32:29 | |
"Sied, this is the best song that I've heard | 2:32:29 | 2:32:34 | |
"in ten years". | 2:32:34 | 2:32:36 | |
-And I'm like... -MOUTHS | 2:32:36 | 2:32:39 | |
The key... | 2:32:39 | 2:32:40 | |
was one step too high for Michael, | 2:32:40 | 2:32:44 | |
so Quincy wanted me to re-sing the demo in the new key. | 2:32:44 | 2:32:49 | |
So I come here and I'm singing the demo in the new key | 2:32:49 | 2:32:52 | |
and Michael...is filming me. | 2:32:52 | 2:32:55 | |
Whenever you're ready, Miss Siedah. | 2:32:55 | 2:32:58 | |
FINGERS CLICK IN TIME | 2:32:58 | 2:32:59 | |
# Gonna make a change | 2:32:59 | 2:33:02 | |
# For once in my life | 2:33:02 | 2:33:05 | |
# Gonna feel real good | 2:33:08 | 2:33:10 | |
# Gonna make a difference gonna make it right | 2:33:10 | 2:33:15 | |
# As I turn up the collar on | 2:33:18 | 2:33:21 | |
# My favourite winter coat | 2:33:21 | 2:33:24 | |
# This wind is blowing my mind | 2:33:24 | 2:33:26 | |
# I see the kids in the street | 2:33:27 | 2:33:30 | |
# Not enough to eat | 2:33:30 | 2:33:32 | |
# Who am I to be blind? | 2:33:32 | 2:33:34 | |
# Pretending not to see their need... # | 2:33:34 | 2:33:38 | |
# A willow deeply scarred... # | 2:33:39 | 2:33:41 | |
I got that image | 2:33:41 | 2:33:42 | |
cos I was walking down the street in New York, walking past | 2:33:42 | 2:33:46 | |
this brownstone that had been torn down and it was fenced. | 2:33:46 | 2:33:49 | |
Just a lot with broken glass | 2:33:49 | 2:33:52 | |
and this tree... | 2:33:52 | 2:33:53 | |
that someone had carved their initials into this tree... | 2:33:53 | 2:33:56 | |
# ..Somebody's broken heart | 2:33:59 | 2:34:01 | |
# And one man's soul | 2:34:01 | 2:34:05 | |
# They follow each other on the wind you know | 2:34:05 | 2:34:10 | |
# Cos they got no place to go | 2:34:10 | 2:34:13 | |
# That's why I want you to know. # | 2:34:13 | 2:34:16 | |
It was really a great song from inception, | 2:34:16 | 2:34:19 | |
but I think what Michael did is he took that song | 2:34:19 | 2:34:21 | |
and he made it his own. | 2:34:21 | 2:34:23 | |
In popular music, there's often this idea that you are either | 2:34:23 | 2:34:26 | |
the songwriter of your own material | 2:34:26 | 2:34:29 | |
or you are the interpreter. | 2:34:29 | 2:34:30 | |
The interesting thing about Michael Jackson is that he was both. | 2:34:30 | 2:34:33 | |
You may not even know what he's talking about, | 2:34:33 | 2:34:35 | |
a broken bottle top, all kinds of images are floating, | 2:34:35 | 2:34:39 | |
but it's the conviction and the fervour with which | 2:34:39 | 2:34:42 | |
he brings to the song that is really spectacular. | 2:34:42 | 2:34:45 | |
He said, "Andrae, I got a song. | 2:34:45 | 2:34:47 | |
"If you were listening to this and wondered where a choir should be..." | 2:34:47 | 2:34:53 | |
He said, "I would love to have a choir and I've heard your music." | 2:34:53 | 2:34:57 | |
# If you wanna make the world a better place | 2:34:57 | 2:35:00 | |
# Take a look at yourself and then make that... # | 2:35:00 | 2:35:02 | |
"Change," I said, "Right there, you're exactly right". | 2:35:02 | 2:35:05 | |
And the choir sang... | 2:35:05 | 2:35:07 | |
# Man in the mirror | 2:35:07 | 2:35:08 | |
# Oooh oh-ooh-oh | 2:35:08 | 2:35:12 | |
-# Ow! -Yeah! | 2:35:12 | 2:35:16 | |
Oooh oh-ooh-oh | 2:35:13 | 2:35:16 | |
Make that change... # | 2:35:15 | 2:35:16 | |
Andrae Crouch's choir seriously threw it on the end | 2:35:16 | 2:35:19 | |
and it featured all kinds of singers, including, I didn't realise the Winans were on there! | 2:35:19 | 2:35:23 | |
My brother Marvin asked him, | 2:35:23 | 2:35:25 | |
"Exactly what do, how do you want us to do it?" | 2:35:25 | 2:35:27 | |
He was whispering into Quincy Jones' ear | 2:35:27 | 2:35:31 | |
and Quincy would actually... | 2:35:31 | 2:35:34 | |
..relay the message to us | 2:35:36 | 2:35:38 | |
and my brother Marvin said, "Well, Michael, can you talk?" | 2:35:38 | 2:35:42 | |
Mike broke out of the shell, sat down on the piano, | 2:35:42 | 2:35:46 | |
started playing the part... I didn't even know Michael PLAYED piano. | 2:35:46 | 2:35:50 | |
OK, here's my favourite link, right here. | 2:35:50 | 2:35:52 | |
Whoo! | 2:35:55 | 2:35:56 | |
That's when I was hot, back in the day! | 2:35:58 | 2:36:00 | |
Man In The Mirror, Quincy said give me the masterclass. | 2:36:01 | 2:36:05 | |
Those handclaps, that's what you hear. | 2:36:05 | 2:36:07 | |
The three of us would surround the mic, we'd nail it in real-time. | 2:36:07 | 2:36:11 | |
Then, what we would do, | 2:36:12 | 2:36:14 | |
we would speed this machine up maybe 15%, | 2:36:14 | 2:36:17 | |
so the track's going by really fast | 2:36:17 | 2:36:19 | |
and we're still clapping the same thing, then when you play back at a regular speed, | 2:36:19 | 2:36:22 | |
it's fat, so we have two sets of claps - in real-time | 2:36:22 | 2:36:26 | |
and the fat claps underneath which are exactly in the same time. | 2:36:26 | 2:36:29 | |
That's why if you listen to all those records we've done - | 2:36:29 | 2:36:32 | |
some of the best clap sounds you'll ever hear. | 2:36:32 | 2:36:34 | |
Once we cut the track, Andrae Crouch and his wonderful singers | 2:36:34 | 2:36:39 | |
came in here and Bruce Swedien had them all up on this stage. | 2:36:39 | 2:36:43 | |
Bruce is such a genius - he would have them | 2:36:43 | 2:36:46 | |
actually stand along this side, then stand along the side, | 2:36:46 | 2:36:49 | |
then they'd stand in the middle, cos he wanted to get all this really incredible imaging. | 2:36:49 | 2:36:53 | |
That's why it sounded like 57,000 people! | 2:36:53 | 2:36:55 | |
# Man in the mirror | 2:36:55 | 2:36:57 | |
# You got to move, chamon... # | 2:36:57 | 2:36:59 | |
OK, now bring the choir in, gently there... | 2:36:59 | 2:37:04 | |
Yeah, baby! | 2:37:04 | 2:37:06 | |
When the session was over, everybody was going back to their cars | 2:37:06 | 2:37:11 | |
and I was listening to it with Quincy. | 2:37:11 | 2:37:13 | |
I said, "Quincy, you know what? We should have put "change" at the end. | 2:37:13 | 2:37:18 | |
He said... "Yeah". | 2:37:18 | 2:37:21 | |
They were getting into their cars in the parking lot and I whistled, | 2:37:21 | 2:37:26 | |
I said, "Come here, we've got to do something else." | 2:37:26 | 2:37:28 | |
And they came in. I said, just say... | 2:37:28 | 2:37:32 | |
# Change... # | 2:37:32 | 2:37:34 | |
And then Michael said, "Make that change!" | 2:37:34 | 2:37:36 | |
-"Make that change." -Ah! | 2:37:36 | 2:37:39 | |
Somewhere between Michael Jackson, Quincy Jones, Bruce Swedien, | 2:37:40 | 2:37:47 | |
the musicians - Greg Phillinganes, and all these guys - | 2:37:47 | 2:37:50 | |
something took place in those sessions that... | 2:37:50 | 2:37:53 | |
..technically sounds better than any record ever made to this day. | 2:37:54 | 2:38:00 | |
Michael Jackson meant that the unachievable was achievable, | 2:38:00 | 2:38:04 | |
that you could be respected, | 2:38:04 | 2:38:06 | |
you could be successful on a global level as a person of colour. | 2:38:06 | 2:38:11 | |
There's no-one that will take his place. | 2:38:11 | 2:38:13 | |
The discipline imposed upon him | 2:38:13 | 2:38:15 | |
for good or for bad, from the time he was a baby, | 2:38:15 | 2:38:19 | |
it's not even legal to replicate that in today's world. | 2:38:19 | 2:38:23 | |
Michael is the most professional performer I've ever worked with in my life. | 2:38:23 | 2:38:28 | |
He made it all look so simple. | 2:38:28 | 2:38:31 | |
He made it all look so natural. | 2:38:31 | 2:38:33 | |
And he really worked so hard to do that. | 2:38:33 | 2:38:35 | |
I remember watching... | 2:38:36 | 2:38:38 | |
..him on stage, perform and how he would... | 2:38:39 | 2:38:44 | |
..just glide and... | 2:38:44 | 2:38:46 | |
..make it seem like... | 2:38:47 | 2:38:49 | |
..the music was just going through him. I mean, he would close | 2:38:50 | 2:38:54 | |
his eyes and walk across the stage | 2:38:54 | 2:38:57 | |
and I'd sometimes wonder to myself, | 2:38:57 | 2:38:59 | |
he could fall, he could trip, he doesn't know where he's going. | 2:38:59 | 2:39:03 | |
But he never did. | 2:39:03 | 2:39:04 | |
Whether it's Beyonce or Lady Gaga or Chris Brown or Usher | 2:39:04 | 2:39:08 | |
or will.i.am or Justin Bieber or Justin Timberlake, | 2:39:08 | 2:39:11 | |
there isn't a musician | 2:39:11 | 2:39:13 | |
that doesn't quote Michael Jackson as being their idol. | 2:39:13 | 2:39:16 | |
I don't think there's anybody who comes close to having | 2:39:16 | 2:39:19 | |
that type of work ethic. | 2:39:19 | 2:39:20 | |
They say that Willie Mays was one of the only five-tool players | 2:39:20 | 2:39:24 | |
in the history of baseball. | 2:39:24 | 2:39:25 | |
A player that could run, field, hit, hit for power and throw. | 2:39:25 | 2:39:31 | |
And in the music business, | 2:39:31 | 2:39:33 | |
I'm not sure there was ever a five-tool player | 2:39:33 | 2:39:37 | |
other than Michael Jackson. | 2:39:37 | 2:39:39 | |
Michael could write the songs, he could produce them, | 2:39:39 | 2:39:42 | |
he could sing them, he could certainly perform | 2:39:42 | 2:39:45 | |
and dance them and he set fashion trends with his sense of style. | 2:39:45 | 2:39:50 | |
That's six tools you just named. | 2:39:50 | 2:39:52 | |
Well, I consider performing and dancing one and the same. | 2:39:52 | 2:39:55 | |
Hey, I'm with you all the way, six tools, I'm wit' you! | 2:39:55 | 2:39:58 | |
-Willie Mays and Michael Jackson, that's great. -There it is. | 2:39:58 | 2:40:01 | |
He did everything. He wrote, he performed, he danced, | 2:40:01 | 2:40:04 | |
he did the business part of it, he counted his royalties! | 2:40:04 | 2:40:08 | |
Sometimes, it's hard to believe he's even gone. | 2:40:08 | 2:40:10 | |
Just the amount of music that I hear, | 2:40:10 | 2:40:13 | |
the number of times that I hear people telling me | 2:40:13 | 2:40:16 | |
about children that are discovering Michael for the first time, | 2:40:16 | 2:40:21 | |
all these things, it's like this energy that just does not go away. | 2:40:21 | 2:40:25 | |
The divinity that that guy was so tapped into. | 2:40:25 | 2:40:29 | |
There was a reason that he was unique | 2:40:29 | 2:40:31 | |
and he was different than any other artist that we've ever seen | 2:40:31 | 2:40:35 | |
and he had something that was not definable to me. | 2:40:35 | 2:40:38 | |
Whenever he stepped out and sang, whenever he made that connection | 2:40:38 | 2:40:40 | |
with people, the molecules changed in the room. | 2:40:40 | 2:40:45 | |
You know, that was what he could do. | 2:40:45 | 2:40:47 | |
There are people that can go out | 2:40:47 | 2:40:49 | |
and you can be wowed by their technique, | 2:40:49 | 2:40:51 | |
but he changed the molecules. | 2:40:51 | 2:40:53 | |
No-one can quite say what the creative process is, | 2:40:53 | 2:40:56 | |
because I have nothing to do with it, almost, | 2:40:56 | 2:40:59 | |
because it's created in space, it's God's work, not mine. | 2:40:59 | 2:41:02 | |
# Gonna make a change | 2:41:02 | 2:41:06 | |
# For once in my life | 2:41:06 | 2:41:08 | |
# It's gonna feel real good | 2:41:11 | 2:41:14 | |
# Gonna make a difference | 2:41:14 | 2:41:15 | |
# Gonna make it right | 2:41:15 | 2:41:19 | |
# As I turn up the collar on | 2:41:21 | 2:41:24 | |
# My favourite winter coat | 2:41:24 | 2:41:27 | |
# This wind is blowing my mind | 2:41:27 | 2:41:30 | |
# I see the kids in the street | 2:41:30 | 2:41:33 | |
# With not enough to eat | 2:41:33 | 2:41:35 | |
# Who am I to be blind | 2:41:35 | 2:41:37 | |
# Pretending not to see their need? | 2:41:37 | 2:41:41 | |
# A summer's disregard | 2:41:41 | 2:41:44 | |
# A broken bottle top and one man's soul | 2:41:44 | 2:41:49 | |
# They follow each other on the wind, you know | 2:41:50 | 2:41:54 | |
# Cos they got nowhere to go | 2:41:54 | 2:41:58 | |
# That's why I want you to know | 2:41:58 | 2:42:01 | |
# I'm starting with the man in the mirror | 2:42:01 | 2:42:04 | |
# I'm asking him to change his ways | 2:42:06 | 2:42:10 | |
# And no message could have been any clearer | 2:42:10 | 2:42:14 | |
# If you wanna make the world a better place | 2:42:14 | 2:42:17 | |
# Take a look at yourself and then make the change | 2:42:17 | 2:42:20 | |
# Nah nah nah | 2:42:22 | 2:42:23 | |
# Nah nah nah, nah-nah, nah-nah | 2:42:23 | 2:42:26 | |
# Oh-ho | 2:42:26 | 2:42:28 | |
# I've been a victim of | 2:42:29 | 2:42:32 | |
# A selfish kind of love | 2:42:32 | 2:42:34 | |
# It's time that I realised | 2:42:34 | 2:42:38 | |
# There are some with no home | 2:42:38 | 2:42:41 | |
# Not a nickel to loan | 2:42:41 | 2:42:43 | |
# Could it be really mean | 2:42:43 | 2:42:45 | |
# Pretending that they're not alone? | 2:42:45 | 2:42:49 | |
# A willow deeply scarred | 2:42:49 | 2:42:51 | |
# Somebody's broken heart | 2:42:51 | 2:42:54 | |
# And a washed-out dream | 2:42:54 | 2:42:58 | |
# They follow the pattern of the wind, you see | 2:42:58 | 2:43:03 | |
# Cos they got no place to be | 2:43:03 | 2:43:06 | |
# That's why I'm starting with me | 2:43:06 | 2:43:09 | |
# I'm starting with the man in the mirror | 2:43:09 | 2:43:13 | |
Ooh! | 2:43:12 | 2:43:13 | |
# I'm asking him to change his ways | 2:43:13 | 2:43:18 | |
Ooh! | 2:43:17 | 2:43:18 | |
# And no message could have been any clearer | 2:43:18 | 2:43:22 | |
# If you wanna make the world a better place | 2:43:22 | 2:43:25 | |
# Take a look at yourself and then make the change | 2:43:25 | 2:43:28 | |
# I'm starting with the man in the mirror | 2:43:28 | 2:43:33 | |
Ooh | 2:43:32 | 2:43:33 | |
# I'm asking him to change his ways | 2:43:33 | 2:43:37 | |
Ooh | 2:43:36 | 2:43:37 | |
# And no message could have been any clearer | 2:43:37 | 2:43:41 | |
# If you wanna make the world a better place | 2:43:41 | 2:43:44 | |
# Take a look at yourself and then make that | 2:43:44 | 2:43:47 | |
Change! | 2:43:46 | 2:43:47 | |
# I'm starting with the man in the mirror | 2:43:47 | 2:43:52 | |
Oh, yeah | 2:43:50 | 2:43:52 | |
# I'm asking him to change his ways | 2:43:52 | 2:43:56 | |
# You better change | 2:43:56 | 2:44:01 | |
No message could've been any clearer | 2:43:57 | 2:44:01 | |
Whoo-hoo | 2:43:58 | 2:44:01 | |
# If you wanna make the world a better place | 2:44:01 | 2:44:03 | |
# Take a look at yourself and then make the change | 2:44:03 | 2:44:06 | |
# You gotta get it right while you got the time | 2:44:06 | 2:44:08 | |
# Cos if you close your heart then you close your, your mind | 2:44:08 | 2:44:11 | |
# That man | 2:44:11 | 2:44:16 | |
That man in the mirror, oh yeah | 2:44:13 | 2:44:16 | |
# I'm asking him to change his ways | 2:44:16 | 2:44:20 | |
# You better change | 2:44:20 | 2:44:21 | |
# No message could have been any clearer | 2:44:21 | 2:44:25 | |
# If you wanna make the world | 2:44:25 | 2:44:27 | |
# A better place take a look at yourself | 2:44:27 | 2:44:29 | |
# And then make that change | 2:44:29 | 2:44:31 | |
# Whoo! Whoo! | 2:44:31 | 2:44:33 | |
# Nah-nah-nah Nah-nah-nah, na-na, na-na | 2:44:33 | 2:44:37 | |
# Whoo! Whoo! | 2:44:37 | 2:44:39 | |
# Oh, yeah | 2:44:39 | 2:44:42 | |
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah | 2:44:40 | 2:44:42 | |
# Nah-nah-nah, nah-nah-nah | 2:44:42 | 2:44:44 | |
# Na-na, na-na | 2:44:44 | 2:44:47 | |
# Gonna make that change | 2:44:50 | 2:44:53 | |
# Gonna feel real good, come on | 2:44:53 | 2:44:57 | |
# Change | 2:44:57 | 2:44:59 | |
# Just lift yourself, you know it | 2:44:59 | 2:45:02 | |
# You got to stop it yourself, yeah | 2:45:02 | 2:45:06 | |
-# Whoo! -Make that change | 2:45:06 | 2:45:08 | |
# Gotta make that change today | 2:45:08 | 2:45:13 | |
Man in the mirror | 2:45:11 | 2:45:13 | |
# You got to move, you know it | 2:45:13 | 2:45:16 | |
# You know it, ow! | 2:45:16 | 2:45:19 | |
# Yeah! | 2:45:19 | 2:45:21 | |
# Make that change | 2:45:21 | 2:45:23 | |
# You know all about it. | 2:45:23 | 2:45:26 | |
# Man in the mirror | 2:45:26 | 2:45:28 | |
# You know it, you know it | 2:45:28 | 2:45:30 | |
# You, you | 2:45:30 | 2:45:31 | |
# Yeah! | 2:45:34 | 2:45:36 | |
# Make that change | 2:45:36 | 2:45:38 | |
# Man in the mirror | 2:45:41 | 2:45:43 | |
# You know it, you know it | 2:45:43 | 2:45:45 | |
# You do, you, you | 2:45:45 | 2:45:47 | |
# Yeah! | 2:45:48 | 2:45:50 | |
# Make that change | 2:45:50 | 2:45:52 | |
# Gonna make that change today, yeah | 2:45:52 | 2:45:55 | |
# Man in the mirror | 2:45:55 | 2:45:57 | |
# Na-na-na, mm, yeah, yeah | 2:45:57 | 2:46:00 | |
# Yeah, you gotta | 2:46:01 | 2:46:03 | |
# Yeah, make that change | 2:46:03 | 2:46:07 | |
# Man in the mirror | 2:46:09 | 2:46:12 | |
# You know it, you know it You, you | 2:46:12 | 2:46:16 | |
# Whoo! | 2:46:16 | 2:46:21 | |
Yeah, make that change | 2:46:17 | 2:46:21 | |
# Man in the mirror | 2:46:24 | 2:46:26 | |
# Stand up | 2:46:31 | 2:46:35 | |
Yeah, make that change | 2:46:32 | 2:46:35 | |
# Stand up for each other | 2:46:35 | 2:46:38 | |
# Man in the mirror | 2:46:38 | 2:46:40 | |
# You know it, you know it | 2:46:40 | 2:46:43 | |
# You know it, you know | 2:46:43 | 2:46:46 | |
# Change... # | 2:46:47 | 2:46:53 | |
Make that change. | 2:46:56 | 2:46:58 | |
WILD CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 2:46:58 | 2:47:02 | |
WILD APPLAUSE CONTINUES | 2:47:29 | 2:47:33 | |
I love you! | 2:47:34 | 2:47:36 | |
MUSIC: Intro to "Bad" | 2:47:36 | 2:47:38 | |
# Hee-hee-heee | 2:47:53 | 2:47:54 | |
# Chamon! # | 2:47:54 | 2:47:56 | |
MUSIC: "Don't Be Messin' Around" | 2:47:56 | 2:47:58 | |
# Are you ready for a real good time, my love? | 2:48:28 | 2:48:31 | |
# Are you ready for a good treat? | 2:48:31 | 2:48:35 | |
# There'll be so much as it singing | 2:48:35 | 2:48:38 | |
# Uh, uh, uh | 2:48:38 | 2:48:39 | |
# You, yeah, what you mean to me | 2:48:39 | 2:48:43 | |
# So don't be messin' round | 2:48:43 | 2:48:45 | |
# Don't be messin' round with me | 2:48:45 | 2:48:48 | |
# Don't be messin' with | 2:48:48 | 2:48:49 | |
# With me, hey hey | 2:48:49 | 2:48:51 | |
# So don't be messin' round | 2:48:51 | 2:48:53 | |
# Don't be messin' round | 2:48:53 | 2:48:55 | |
# Don't be messin' with With me | 2:48:55 | 2:48:58 | |
# Hey hey | 2:48:58 | 2:48:59 | |
# Don't be startin' nothin' then if | 2:48:59 | 2:49:02 | |
# If you say this really ain't your crowd | 2:49:02 | 2:49:06 | |
# I'll be so proud if you let me | 2:49:06 | 2:49:09 | |
# Only girl let me love you for a little while | 2:49:09 | 2:49:15 | |
# But don't be messin' with | 2:49:15 | 2:49:17 | |
# Don't be messin' with | 2:49:17 | 2:49:19 | |
# Don't be messin' round with me Hey hey hey | 2:49:19 | 2:49:23 | |
# So don't be messin' with | 2:49:23 | 2:49:25 | |
# Don't be messin' with | 2:49:25 | 2:49:27 | |
# Don't be messin' round with me Hey | 2:49:27 | 2:49:31 | |
# Aha, yeah | 2:49:31 | 2:49:32 | |
# Oh-ho yeah | 2:49:32 | 2:49:34 | |
# Aha, yeah | 2:49:34 | 2:49:36 | |
# Oh-ho yeah | 2:49:36 | 2:49:38 | |
# Ooh ooh | 2:49:38 | 2:49:41 | |
# Now she's started finger-poppin' to the beat | 2:49:46 | 2:49:50 | |
# So I said, "Let's do that on the floor" | 2:49:50 | 2:49:54 | |
# She said to keep your mind on dancin' | 2:49:54 | 2:49:57 | |
# Won't be no romancing | 2:49:57 | 2:49:59 | |
# Lord no, don't mess around with me | 2:49:59 | 2:50:02 | |
# I ain't playing | 2:50:02 | 2:50:03 | |
# Don't be messin' with | 2:50:03 | 2:50:04 | |
# Don't be messin' with me | 2:50:04 | 2:50:07 | |
# Don't be messin' round with me | 2:50:07 | 2:50:09 | |
# Hey hey So don't be messin' with | 2:50:09 | 2:50:12 | |
# Don't be messin' with | 2:50:12 | 2:50:15 | |
# Don't be messin' round with me Hey hey | 2:50:15 | 2:50:18 | |
# Bridge | 2:50:18 | 2:50:20 | |
# Doo-doo doo-doo doo-doo doo-doo | 2:50:20 | 2:50:23 | |
# Doo-doo doo-doo doo-doo doo-doo | 2:50:23 | 2:50:27 | |
# Doo-doo doo-doo doo-doo doo-doo | 2:50:27 | 2:50:31 | |
# Doo-doo doo-doo | 2:50:31 | 2:50:34 | |
# Pu pu pa-rup pa-rup | 2:50:34 | 2:50:36 | |
# Pu pa-rup pa-rup | 2:50:36 | 2:50:38 | |
# Pu pa-rup pa-rup | 2:50:38 | 2:50:40 | |
# Pa pu pa pa pu pu pa-rup pa-rup | 2:50:40 | 2:50:44 | |
# Pu pa-rup pa-rup | 2:50:44 | 2:50:46 | |
# Pa pa-rup pu pa-rup | 2:50:46 | 2:50:48 | |
# Ba-ba ba buh | 2:50:48 | 2:50:52 | |
# Chi pah chi pah chi pah chi pah | 2:50:55 | 2:50:58 | |
# Chi pah chi pah chi pah chi pah | 2:50:59 | 2:51:03 | |
# Chi pah chi pah chi pah chi pah | 2:51:03 | 2:51:06 | |
# Ooh... # | 2:51:06 | 2:51:07 | |
VOCAL IMPROVISATION AND INSTRUMENTAL CONTINUES | 2:51:07 | 2:51:13 | |
# ..So don't be messin' with | 2:51:22 | 2:51:24 | |
# Don't be messin' with | 2:51:24 | 2:51:26 | |
# Don't be messin' with me Hey hey hey | 2:51:26 | 2:51:30 | |
# So don't be messin' with | 2:51:30 | 2:51:32 | |
# Don't be messin' with me | 2:51:32 | 2:51:34 | |
# Don't be messin' with, with me Hey hey | 2:51:34 | 2:51:38 | |
# So don't be messin' round | 2:51:38 | 2:51:40 | |
# Don't be messin' with me | 2:51:40 | 2:51:42 | |
# Don't be messin' with, with me Hey hey | 2:51:42 | 2:51:46 | |
# So don't be messin' with | 2:51:46 | 2:51:48 | |
# Don't be messin' with me | 2:51:48 | 2:51:50 | |
# Don't be messin' with me Hey hey... # | 2:51:50 | 2:51:53 | |
This is the thing. | 2:51:53 | 2:51:55 | |
VOCAL IMPROVISATION | 2:51:55 | 2:51:58 | |
Subtitles by Red Bee Media Ltd | 2:52:03 | 2:52:06 | |
CROWD CHEERS | 2:52:33 | 2:52:38 | |
CHIMES TINKLE | 2:52:38 | 2:52:40 | |
MICHAEL CHUCKLES | 2:52:43 | 2:52:46 | |
Whoo! | 2:52:46 | 2:52:47 |