Quadrophenia: Can You See the Real Me?


Quadrophenia: Can You See the Real Me?

Similar Content

Browse content similar to Quadrophenia: Can You See the Real Me?. Check below for episodes and series from the same categories and more!

Transcript


LineFromTo

This programme contains strong language

0:00:020:00:05

# Substitute your lies for fact...#

0:00:050:00:08

# I can see for miles and miles I can see for miles and miles...#

0:00:110:00:17

The Who started as a band with four very different individuals

0:00:200:00:24

with very, very different needs.

0:00:240:00:26

Got a few hits,

0:00:260:00:29

managed to pull off Tommy,

0:00:290:00:32

managed to pull off some kind of amazing live stage energy.

0:00:320:00:38

APPLAUSE AND CHEERING

0:00:380:00:39

# Touch me...#

0:00:390:00:42

'A special TUC conference in London has voted...'

0:00:450:00:48

'New challenges and burdens created by the oil crisis...'

0:00:480:00:52

'As the gas situation gets worse...'

0:00:520:00:54

'The miners need some inducement to come to talks...'

0:00:540:00:56

'I think the three-day week should be called off at once.'

0:00:560:00:59

'Ten years on from The Who's first successes comes the release

0:00:590:01:03

'this weekend of a new double album that could be a step on,

0:01:030:01:06

'even from Tommy, Quadrophenia.'

0:01:060:01:09

# Love...

0:01:090:01:12

# Reign on me...#

0:01:140:01:17

When we got to Quadrophenia, talking 1973,

0:01:170:01:22

something strange was happening to the internal politics of the band.

0:01:220:01:26

It was quite clear that Keith Moon was certifiably insane

0:01:260:01:30

and that if he hadn't had a drum kit to play with, he probably would have ended up in jail.

0:01:300:01:34

John Entwistle simply wasn't happy because he was a songwriter,

0:01:360:01:40

and it seemed as though for him, the band had come all about me and my ideas.

0:01:400:01:45

Roger wanted something which meant he could swing his hair and looked glamorous

0:01:450:01:48

and take his chest off and be a superstar.

0:01:480:01:51

I had difficulties as well. Lifehouse, which followed Tommy, failed.

0:01:550:01:59

The accusation was, "You failed with your big idea

0:01:590:02:03

"because you're an arty-farty pretentious twat."

0:02:030:02:06

It felt, to me, as though we were drifting apart.

0:02:080:02:10

So my first mission, my first part of the brief that

0:02:110:02:14

I gave myself was replace Tommy as a performing vehicle, that was it.

0:02:140:02:20

# I don't mind other guys dancing with my girl

0:02:210:02:26

# That's fine

0:02:280:02:29

# I know them all pretty well...#

0:02:290:02:32

# Is it me for a moment...

0:02:320:02:35

# For a moment, for a moment... #

0:02:350:02:39

So my story was, I'd bought this riverside property out...

0:02:390:02:44

It's actually in a place called Cleeve on the River Thames.

0:02:440:02:49

One day I got this call

0:02:490:02:51

about Eric who was wallowing

0:02:510:02:55

down in his house in the country,

0:02:550:02:58

and would I go down and see Eric?

0:02:580:03:01

Eric had done an album and ended up as a heroin user.

0:03:020:03:06

I remember going down and seeing him. He was very courteous, very kind, very dignified, very loving,

0:03:060:03:10

very friendly as he always was to me.

0:03:100:03:13

But I was affected by it.

0:03:130:03:15

I start to think about how we can...

0:03:150:03:18

..Not rescue Eric, but just to kind of stimulate him.

0:03:200:03:24

I turned to a couple of my mates, Ronnie Wood, Stevie Winwood

0:03:240:03:28

and we came here, to this house, to rehearse.

0:03:280:03:31

And we were in the room over there and we all gathered together.

0:03:330:03:36

I was nodding off and Rick the bass player said, "Try this." I said, "What is it?"

0:03:360:03:40

He said it is a kind of a popper thing,

0:03:400:03:43

he said, it wakes you up, and it was amyl nitrate.

0:03:430:03:45

And I took it and I went, "Oh, that's fun, a bit of a buzz,"

0:03:450:03:50

and then played. I did not get stuck on it but I used it quite a bit.

0:03:500:03:54

Once the concert with Eric in January 1973 was over, I suppose

0:03:550:03:59

I must have had some sort of come down from the lack of amyl nitrate.

0:03:590:04:03

On a dark, wet winter weekend at the cottage at Cleeve,

0:04:050:04:07

with the river running faster than usual,

0:04:070:04:11

I had a flashback to when I was 19 years old.

0:04:110:04:13

The Who had just played this amazing gig at the Aquarium Ballroom

0:04:150:04:18

in Brighton and I was with my art school friend Des Reed.

0:04:180:04:21

After the gig we missed the train home.

0:04:230:04:26

So we hung out and we went down under the pier

0:04:260:04:29

and there were all these boys in parkas

0:04:290:04:33

with the fucking tide coming up around their feet.

0:04:330:04:35

They didn't seem to understand that they were going to drown!

0:04:350:04:38

Under the pier, I was coming down from taking purple hearts,

0:04:440:04:47

the fashionable uppers of the period.

0:04:470:04:50

Sitting there at Cleeve, that day nine years later,

0:04:500:04:53

that same feeling came flooding back of feeling depressed,

0:04:530:04:57

lost and hopeless and I grabbed a notebook.

0:04:570:04:59

Quickly when I was still in this sad and lonely mood,

0:04:590:05:02

I scribbled out the story that is on the inside sleeve of the original album of Quadrophenia.

0:05:020:05:07

This was the story of a mod called Jimmy.

0:05:070:05:10

Jimmy was a normal boy, with normal needs, passing through the normal

0:05:110:05:16

things of childhood, but what made everything so much more complicated

0:05:160:05:20

for him was he had a bipolar problem, he was schizophrenic.

0:05:200:05:25

I think that Jimmy is meant to be, instead of schizophrenic,

0:05:260:05:30

he is meant to be quadrophrenic, and that is the original concept,

0:05:300:05:35

to have Jimmy have these four personalities.

0:05:350:05:38

So Quadrophenia was a double-album,

0:05:420:05:44

in the old days of vinyl that meant you had two 12 inch vinyl discs.

0:05:440:05:47

And it's that difficult, dodgy '70s thing, the concept album.

0:05:480:05:53

A sensitive story of a mod on a journey of self-discovery,

0:05:530:05:59

but played by The Who - tough, muscular, physical, a man's band.

0:05:590:06:04

What I know is that I'm going to be on a stage

0:06:090:06:11

with a bunch of yobbos with an electric guitar.

0:06:110:06:15

I'm going to have to turn it up, I'm going to have to jump up and down,

0:06:150:06:18

I'm going to have to tell them to fuck off and shut up.

0:06:180:06:20

This is Pete, the writer, trying to serve Keith and John and Roger,

0:06:200:06:25

giving them really stimulating, useful

0:06:250:06:27

fucking stuff that they can express their stage personalities through.

0:06:270:06:31

The Who's sound has got those warring elements in it.

0:06:340:06:37

On the one hand they are a street fighting band, doing all that physical,

0:06:370:06:40

visceral side on the one hand,

0:06:400:06:42

on the other hand that spiritual, whimsical,

0:06:420:06:45

melancholic lyrical side and banging them together, often in one song.

0:06:450:06:49

This bit of paper is kind of, on the top line you've got me,

0:06:520:06:57

Roger, John, Keith.

0:06:570:06:59

The next line is good, bad, romance.

0:06:590:07:02

They are joined together with the word sex, insanity.

0:07:020:07:06

The idea that each of these themes would produce songs.

0:07:060:07:10

In actual fact, this is just a musical blueprint for what

0:07:100:07:14

I wanted to do.

0:07:140:07:17

Pete, you know, is working very hard.

0:07:170:07:20

I don't know quite what on but...

0:07:200:07:24

You know, I think it'll be good.

0:07:240:07:27

The trouble is with Pete, working with him,

0:07:270:07:31

he had these wonderful little kernels of ideas

0:07:310:07:34

but then he would want to pitch them and make them into stories.

0:07:340:07:37

But we got the essence of it.

0:07:370:07:40

This guy's got all the personalities of every member in the band

0:07:400:07:43

and it's just one guy.

0:07:430:07:45

And that was enough for me to say, "Great idea, let's go for it."

0:07:450:07:49

This is how the album starts, OK.

0:07:490:07:51

WAVES CRASH

0:07:540:07:55

No other Who album starts with ambient noise.

0:07:580:08:01

And it very specifically is putting you in a place,

0:08:020:08:07

it sets a scene, which none of the other Who albums did.

0:08:070:08:11

Once we had the sea noise going,

0:08:140:08:16

we just introduced each theme of the four themes.

0:08:160:08:20

The first thing you hear is I Am The Sea,

0:08:200:08:22

the breathy sound of, "I am the sea."

0:08:220:08:25

And do-dee-do-do-do, which is the Helpless Dancer.

0:08:340:08:37

Then you hear, is it me for a moment, which is the romantic side

0:08:420:08:46

and so on.

0:08:460:08:47

# Is it me, for a moment For a moment, for a moment...#

0:08:470:08:53

Instead of having a straight overture,

0:08:540:08:57

you get pieces of the songs and it comes back as memories.

0:08:570:09:02

# Bellboy, bellboy...#

0:09:020:09:06

You're automatically put on that rock.

0:09:090:09:12

# Love...

0:09:120:09:18

# Reign o'er me. #

0:09:180:09:22

And you hear the themes and then bang into the first track which is,

0:09:220:09:25

Can You See The Real Me?

0:09:250:09:27

# Can you see the real me, can ya? Can ya? #

0:09:270:09:33

He's at the doctor, he's going to the shrink,

0:09:460:09:50

he's going to the priest, he's going to his mother for advice,

0:09:500:09:53

and I wanted to establish very, very quickly

0:09:530:09:57

that this is not just a troubled boy, this is a boy that has mental illness.

0:09:570:10:03

He's bipolar or he's manic-depressive.

0:10:030:10:07

And this idea of him being, you know, doubly schizophrenic.

0:10:070:10:13

# I went back to my mother

0:10:170:10:20

# I said, I'm crazy, ma, help me

0:10:200:10:23

# She said, I know how it feels, son

0:10:230:10:27

# Cos it runs in the family

0:10:270:10:30

# Can you see the real me, mother, mother?

0:10:310:10:37

# Can you see the real me, mother

0:10:370:10:41

# Whoa, Mama... #

0:10:410:10:44

Once you hear that track,

0:10:440:10:46

you know that this is going to be the revelation of a condition.

0:10:460:10:49

Jimmy gets up in the morning, goes to see his shrink,

0:10:500:10:53

goes to see his priest because his mum is a deep, dark Catholic.

0:10:530:10:57

Goes to look up at this girl's bedroom that he's in love with

0:10:580:11:02

who won't shag him.

0:11:020:11:03

# The cracks between the paving stones

0:11:030:11:06

# Like rivers of flowing veins... #

0:11:060:11:08

You're going right inside the boy's head. You know where you are,

0:11:080:11:12

you've come from the peace of the sea,

0:11:120:11:14

and the idea that this is a little bit of this,

0:11:140:11:16

and a little bit of that and then, bang, you're into the action.

0:11:160:11:19

# Lives in this yellow house

0:11:190:11:21

# Yesterday she passed me by

0:11:220:11:25

# She doesn't want to know me now... #

0:11:250:11:27

When I first heard it, a friend of mine had it and they had

0:11:290:11:32

the gatefold sleeve and everything and I loved it, but it was

0:11:320:11:35

quite costly, so they recorded it for me on what was back then a C90.

0:11:350:11:40

I remember for ages thinking that he'd started on side two

0:11:400:11:44

because it begins with "I went back to the doctor."

0:11:440:11:46

It's like you've jumped right into the middle of the stream,

0:11:460:11:49

you've come right into the middle of the ride,

0:11:490:11:51

come right into the middle of a rush, and that is brilliant.

0:11:510:11:55

# Can you see the real me, mother?

0:11:550:12:00

# Can you see the real me, me, me, me, me,

0:12:000:12:03

me, me, me, me, me m-m-me....#

0:12:030:12:08

1, 2, 3, 4...

0:12:080:12:10

Pete decided that as part of the album, he'd have this lavish,

0:12:150:12:20

very generous big photo book to illustrate the story and also,

0:12:200:12:25

the other thing is I think he thought it would help explain

0:12:250:12:27

the story, particularly to the Americans who didn't understand it.

0:12:270:12:30

Ethan Russell's photos put you in that place.

0:12:300:12:36

As an American, you were able to understand

0:12:360:12:40

because you were able to see it, you were able to see his room,

0:12:400:12:43

you saw the life and it told you the story better than a movie,

0:12:430:12:48

better than a video. It's all there.

0:12:480:12:51

The first cover I did for The Who was the album Who's Next, here.

0:12:540:12:59

I was back in the United States. I got a call from Pete.

0:13:000:13:04

He was pretty stressed already because he'd been

0:13:050:13:09

working on this forever and you could feel this tremendous

0:13:090:13:12

energy of him sort of wanting to birth this thing, you know.

0:13:120:13:15

So he played me the material and he told me the story.

0:13:150:13:18

And we went out to try and sort of build that world.

0:13:200:13:24

We're here in Battersea in the Patmore Estate.

0:13:290:13:32

My sister Maxine and I used to live across the road here,

0:13:320:13:35

in this block of flats here.

0:13:350:13:37

Our foster sister Jane used to live in this block of flats here

0:13:370:13:40

and the three of us used to hang out,

0:13:400:13:41

generally around on that corner block there.

0:13:410:13:45

Along here, which used to be a church hall,

0:13:450:13:48

became Ramport Studios which was owned by The Who,

0:13:480:13:51

back in the early '70s.

0:13:510:13:52

This is myself here. I would have been just coming up to 15.

0:13:560:14:01

That was an original mod outfit.

0:14:010:14:04

I had my hair cut very short and cropped and black eyeliner,

0:14:040:14:07

which you can't see through the black and white picture.

0:14:070:14:10

That's me.

0:14:100:14:11

And I've got on a pencil skirt, a pinstripe pencil skirt,

0:14:110:14:17

Hush Puppy shoes and a navy blue twinset,

0:14:170:14:22

little jumper underneath, a cardigan and like Julie,

0:14:220:14:26

my hair cut very short, mod-style haircut.

0:14:260:14:30

The girls came up, too young to go in the pub

0:14:300:14:34

but they knew that I was looking for someone to play Jimmy.

0:14:340:14:39

Chad was one of the local guys that lived near the pub.

0:14:410:14:45

We thought he had the look for the main character of Quadrophenia

0:14:450:14:48

so we introduced him to Georgiana.

0:14:480:14:50

I saw the attitude.

0:14:500:14:52

I saw the class and the attitude and the sort of, you know...

0:14:520:14:57

..his wheels were spinning a bit, you know.

0:14:580:15:00

And he was the real thing. He had love-hate tattooed on his hands.

0:15:020:15:05

Pretty early on in life for that, you know.

0:15:050:15:08

He was often in bed.

0:15:080:15:10

They would have to go and get him up at the flats, I remember that.

0:15:100:15:13

Because he'd had too much to drink, or maybe drugs,

0:15:130:15:16

I don't know what, I won't swear that either,

0:15:160:15:18

but he was often not on location when he was supposed to be.

0:15:180:15:21

About two thirds through the shoot Chad came up to me and says,

0:15:220:15:25

"I've got to go to court."

0:15:250:15:27

I said what have you got to go to court for? He said, "I stole a bus."

0:15:270:15:30

And I said, "You stole a bus?" And he said "Yes, I stole a bus."

0:15:300:15:34

I said, "OK."

0:15:340:15:35

He walks up to the judge and the judge says, "What did you do?"

0:15:350:15:38

He said, "I took her for a drive." I can't do the accent.

0:15:380:15:42

He said, "what are you doing now?" He says, "I'm a male model."

0:15:420:15:45

And I'm sitting in the back, and he says, "Who do you work for?" "I work for The 'Oo."

0:15:450:15:50

And the judge turns to me and says, "Is this true?" And I said, "Yes."

0:15:510:15:55

He says, "You need him?" And I said, "Yes, absolutely I need him." So he let him off.

0:15:550:16:00

Pete always had this thing about mods, even before they were mods.

0:16:280:16:33

I like to be subsumed in a gang.

0:16:340:16:37

And so I love that feeling of being safe in the mod movement.

0:16:370:16:40

I felt safer in a gang of mods than I did in the band, I can tell you that!

0:16:400:16:45

There was this hierarchical structure.

0:16:470:16:51

At the top you would have these top faces.

0:16:510:16:53

These were the mods that really looked really smart

0:16:530:16:56

and seemed to be able to afford new suits a lot.

0:16:560:16:59

There were the numbers and there was tickets.

0:16:590:17:02

The tickets were the little kids.

0:17:020:17:03

The one that I came across was Seven And Sixers,

0:17:030:17:06

and I never knew why they were called Seven And Sixers and it was cos

0:17:060:17:10

the T-shirts they wore were seven and six in Woolworths.

0:17:100:17:14

What will the well-dressed mod be wearing this Whit weekend?

0:17:140:17:18

I will be wearing white hipster slacks or blue hipster slacks

0:17:180:17:22

with either a cycling shirt, a zip here and stripes across there,

0:17:220:17:27

mainly with white ground or a blue ground.

0:17:270:17:30

Or a T-shirt with a large emblem on the front or back.

0:17:300:17:35

Roger talks about the mod movement only happening

0:17:350:17:38

because in those days, '62, '63, '64, a young man could get a job.

0:17:380:17:43

We were the first generation to have money and creative energy because

0:17:430:17:48

previous to that everybody had been slaving to pay the bloody bills

0:17:480:17:53

and living on the ration book.

0:17:530:17:55

To be a face, you had to go out to work. You couldn't be a face

0:17:550:17:59

if you're a school kid because you didn't have enough money to buy

0:17:590:18:05

the scooter, to pay for the petrol to pay for the girlfriends and the burgers and the drinks.

0:18:050:18:10

The mods were hard-working youngsters

0:18:100:18:14

and it was all about spending your money on clothes.

0:18:140:18:18

ARCHIVE: A new booming outfitting business both meets and creates

0:18:200:18:23

the mod demand for elegance in a young man.

0:18:230:18:27

This shop now has 18 branches in London

0:18:270:18:29

and a turnover of half a million a year.

0:18:290:18:33

They'd see Italian students and kids over here on holiday

0:18:330:18:38

in central London and were admiring their clothes

0:18:380:18:42

and saying, "Look at the cut on their clothes." Stuff that we didn't have.

0:18:420:18:47

I don't like red on you anyway.

0:18:470:18:48

From all these different elements emerged this sort of movement

0:18:480:18:54

with its strict rules that were never written down

0:18:540:18:57

but they seemed to understand them.

0:18:570:18:59

That's a very mod neck.

0:18:590:19:00

That rollneck's all right, a suede front, it's different.

0:19:000:19:04

-That's true, yeah.

-This is great, I like this.

-It's fabulous.

0:19:040:19:07

If I left a deposit for that, John, can I come back next week?

0:19:070:19:11

-Yeah, certainly.

-Is that OK?

0:19:110:19:13

That's not yours, my love.

0:19:210:19:24

If you saw a teddy boy, you'd know he was a teddy boy

0:19:240:19:27

but if you saw a mod, your mods could work in an advertising agency,

0:19:270:19:31

no-one would know they were mods. They just looked like a neat kid.

0:19:310:19:35

But to other mods, they gave all the signals.

0:19:350:19:38

Maybe a slightly effeminate kid

0:19:380:19:40

and that's where I thought the real courage came.

0:19:400:19:42

They used to do their own sewing and stuff.

0:19:420:19:45

These great big guys would say, "I'll take in those trousers!"

0:19:450:19:50

Roger made drainpipes and put the zips in himself!

0:19:500:19:55

He put zips in drainpipes!

0:19:550:19:58

It was perfect because for the first time in generations

0:19:580:20:02

you dressed as you wanted to

0:20:020:20:04

and at work you probably were a shipping clerk or a filing clerk.

0:20:040:20:09

You were management material.

0:20:090:20:11

And you got, "Oh, he's a very tidy young man,

0:20:110:20:14

"he's going up the ladder, mate."

0:20:140:20:16

Mods had real strict taste rules

0:20:160:20:18

and it was difficult to know what was in, and what was out.

0:20:180:20:22

I remember people talking about the way to stand outside

0:20:220:20:26

the Scene Club, you had to stand with your hand in your pocket...

0:20:260:20:31

All these sort of ways to maintain your cool.

0:20:310:20:34

My hair was a disaster. I hated it.

0:20:340:20:37

When I looked in the mirror,

0:20:370:20:40

I saw somebody like Art Garfunkel.

0:20:400:20:42

Roger had exactly the same problem.

0:20:420:20:45

-He was constantly straightening his hair.

-Dippity-do.

0:20:450:20:50

Dippity-do. He found this American gel that would straighten your hair

0:20:500:20:53

long enough to get through a gig.

0:20:530:20:55

And I think the main driving force then was fashion.

0:20:550:20:58

But then it became the music and the other things.

0:20:580:21:02

And the other thing is you've to put it in context of the time,

0:21:020:21:04

it was like people identifying with this new, modern, clean world.

0:21:040:21:08

This is Cut My Hair, it's like the first proper song on the album.

0:21:130:21:17

The album should have started with Cut My Hair because that's where the story starts.

0:21:210:21:24

On Cut My Hair you've got a...

0:21:240:21:28

This piano part, very nursery,

0:21:280:21:31

gentle piano.

0:21:310:21:33

Against which you get the story of the boy complaining about why

0:21:350:21:41

he has to fuck around with his hair basically.

0:21:410:21:45

# If I have to cut my hair

0:21:450:21:48

# I've got to move with the fashion

0:21:480:21:51

# Or be outcast. #

0:21:510:21:53

It's interesting because what it's about is a mixture of that

0:21:530:21:58

refrain when we were young

0:21:580:22:01

and the hair was long which was, "Get your hair cut!"

0:22:010:22:04

And suddenly all of that being turned on its head by the mod movement where a face

0:22:040:22:08

would turn to you and say, "Get your hair cut."

0:22:080:22:13

And you'd think, "Hold on a minute, you're only three or four

0:22:130:22:16

"years older than me, don't fucking tell me to get my haircut!"

0:22:160:22:20

# And I'm leaping along

0:22:200:22:23

# I'm dressed right for a beach fight

0:22:230:22:27

# But I just can't explain

0:22:270:22:30

# Why that uncertain feeling is still

0:22:300:22:34

# Here in my brain. #

0:22:340:22:37

If you were raised in a modern neighbourhood, you had to fit in with those people.

0:22:370:22:42

So, we sat down and had our hair cut. Which I hated.

0:22:420:22:47

It had taken me nearly a year

0:22:470:22:50

to grow my Beatle fringe down to here.

0:22:500:22:53

I was taken to this guy called Jack the barber,

0:22:530:22:56

more like Sweeney Todd!

0:22:560:22:58

I remember going back to my house with Keith Moon

0:22:590:23:03

and smashing the mirror in my room because I hated it. Horrible.

0:23:030:23:09

I kind of rebelled against it, went out and bought myself a jacket

0:23:090:23:12

and trousers and I felt OK about it. Except for my hair.

0:23:120:23:18

# Zoot suit, white jacket with side vents

0:23:180:23:21

# Five inches long. #

0:23:210:23:24

My initial reaction to it was, "It's about me."

0:23:240:23:28

The essence of Townshend's writing is that

0:23:280:23:31

he writes about the adolescent problems and they never change

0:23:310:23:36

and that's why if you take away the mod tunic, the mod uniform,

0:23:360:23:41

what you're left with is the universal adolescent problem.

0:23:410:23:46

What's happening at the very end is he's thinking, "This is shit."

0:23:500:23:54

He can't deal with it. And at the end you get this abject self-pity which Jimmy is...

0:23:540:24:01

Falls into regularly. This sense of, "I can't do this."

0:24:010:24:04

# We have the same old row again and again

0:24:040:24:08

# Why do I have to move with the times?

0:24:110:24:15

# Of kids that hardly notice I'm around

0:24:150:24:18

# I work myself to death just to fit in. #

0:24:180:24:23

So, it sets up this thing that starting at the beginning

0:24:230:24:27

of Quadrophenia that he's becoming disenchanted with

0:24:270:24:30

the burden of being a mod, of trying to fit in,

0:24:300:24:34

of having the right shoes, the right shirt.

0:24:340:24:36

He's not getting what he wants.

0:24:360:24:39

# It's all a game

0:24:400:24:42

# And inside I'm just the same

0:24:420:24:45

# My fried egg makes me sick first thing in the morning. #

0:24:450:24:50

ARCHIVE: ..A gang of nearly 1000 youths entered the Grand Hotel

0:24:520:24:55

in pursuit of two leather-clad rockers.

0:24:550:24:59

South Coast police have warned that if the fights between rival gangs

0:24:590:25:02

of mods and rockers continue strict security measures will be

0:25:020:25:07

in force at railway station both in London and on the south coast.

0:25:070:25:11

Brighton was just one of those places that was popping.

0:25:110:25:14

Say me and my friends went to a dance hall once,

0:25:140:25:17

there was a load of rockers there, they were taking the mick out of us.

0:25:170:25:20

You can't let a load of kids take the Mickey out of you, can you?

0:25:200:25:23

-So, what do you do?

-Well, you have a punch-up about it.

0:25:230:25:26

-What do you fight with?

-With fists!

0:25:260:25:28

The first trouble was in Clacton.

0:25:310:25:33

And afterwards I think Margate and then it was Brighton.

0:25:330:25:37

You had about 30 little mods

0:25:370:25:41

versus three big rockers.

0:25:410:25:42

They were all running up, "Come on, then!" And all this stuff.

0:25:420:25:45

We were posing and stuff like that.

0:25:450:25:47

-It's the rockers that started. They screw you.

-What does screw mean?

0:25:500:25:55

You know, look you up and down and think, "That's a funny

0:25:550:25:58

"way of dressing." Think you're a poof or something like that.

0:25:580:26:01

The really cool mods hated the fact that there was this

0:26:030:26:06

violence on the beach. They hated it.

0:26:060:26:08

"Bunch of wankers! Going and fighting with rockers."

0:26:080:26:12

Ha! That kind of thing.

0:26:120:26:14

# As I was laying in a hospital bed... #

0:26:160:26:19

ARCHIVE: The beat they dance to is another difference between mods and rockers.

0:26:240:26:28

At this mod club, The Chez Don, in the East End of London,

0:26:280:26:31

the rhythm is blue and strong enough to lean against.

0:26:310:26:34

The mod girls dance with each other and no-one bothers to talk

0:26:340:26:38

since you can't hear yourself speak.

0:26:380:26:40

Rockers don't show their faces here. It would only lead to trouble.

0:26:400:26:43

This is the famous Goldhawk club.

0:26:490:26:51

I'm opening the door to the dance hall.

0:26:510:26:55

Along here and on the other side

0:26:550:26:58

was a whole bunch of settees where a lot of necking went on!

0:26:580:27:02

And there was kissing and French kissing and tongues and stuff.

0:27:020:27:07

-# Got a feeling inside

-Can't explain

0:27:170:27:21

-# It's a certain kind

-Can't explain

0:27:210:27:24

-# I feel hot and cold

-Can't explain

0:27:240:27:27

-# Yeah, down in my soul, yeah

-Can't explain... #

0:27:270:27:31

We'd just done Ready Steady Go, they had been there in the audience,

0:27:310:27:35

we went to the Goldhawk Club and played I Can't Explain,

0:27:350:27:38

we played it again and again and again.

0:27:380:27:41

# The things you've said, well, maybe they're true... #

0:27:410:27:45

And I thought, "God Almighty! What's going on?"

0:27:450:27:48

"The Who are playing probably my favourite song of all time."

0:27:480:27:52

They've played I Can't Explain three times, what's going on?

0:27:520:27:57

# When I feel blue

0:27:570:27:59

-# But I can't explain

-Can't explain

0:27:590:28:02

"Play it again, play it again!" Dah, da-da, dah-da-da!

0:28:020:28:05

You know, fucking glorious night at the Goldhawk Club that their boys

0:28:050:28:10

had gone on Ready Steady Go which was the big mod programme of the day.

0:28:100:28:14

I sort of elected myself as some kind of delegate and I came here,

0:28:160:28:22

I knocked on this door, this very door we're looking at.

0:28:220:28:27

Irish Jack walks forward and says "There's something we want to tell you."

0:28:270:28:31

I said, "Look, this song is exactly what we're trying to say."

0:28:310:28:36

You've said it for us.

0:28:360:28:37

I can't explain because this is what mods were about.

0:28:370:28:40

They couldn't explain.

0:28:400:28:42

None of us could explain, we didn't have the articulation.

0:28:420:28:45

So, I said to him quite patronising, "Jack,

0:28:450:28:48

"you want to be to write more songs for you about the fact you

0:28:480:28:52

"can't explain what it is you want me to explain

0:28:520:28:55

"and I can't explain what it is you want to explain?"

0:28:550:28:57

Jack immediately goes, "That's it!"

0:28:570:28:59

So, in words, Pete Townshend became the song laureate of the mods

0:28:590:29:03

in Shepherd's Bush, Hammersmith, Acton, Ealing.

0:29:030:29:07

# You declared you'd be three inches taller

0:29:340:29:37

# You only became what we made you. #

0:29:370:29:40

There's a fabulous postcard, we're about 18/19,

0:29:400:29:43

we look like perfect little girly mods.

0:29:430:29:46

That's the band that Jimmy looked at and went, "That's me!"

0:29:460:29:52

Then he goes into that band and finds that these four people,

0:29:520:29:57

each one of them is a deeply eccentric and complex and difficult

0:29:570:30:00

and fucked up individual and they're each in their own way.

0:30:000:30:03

# I'm the guy in the sky

0:30:030:30:05

# Flying high, flashing eyes

0:30:050:30:07

# No surprise I told lies

0:30:070:30:09

# I'm the punk in the gutter. #

0:30:090:30:12

All of those youth movements are built on false idols.

0:30:120:30:15

They're all built on the idea of loving something and never meet your idols.

0:30:150:30:19

There's that crushing sense of disappointment.

0:30:190:30:22

They're not the people you think they are.

0:30:220:30:25

This was the only time The Who were in the entire book.

0:30:340:30:37

We shot about 4am in the morning so we wouldn't have any traffic

0:30:370:30:41

and it was the Hammersmith Odeon, that was the idea.

0:30:410:30:45

And in the story it's where Jimmy sees The Who,

0:30:450:30:47

otherwise they don't intersect in the story.

0:30:470:30:50

He's feeling inferior, his hero's scooter is bust

0:30:500:30:55

and these guys have a limo.

0:30:550:30:57

# I have to be careful not to preach

0:30:570:31:01

# I can't pretend that I can teach

0:31:010:31:04

# And yet I've lived your future out

0:31:040:31:07

# By pounding stages like a clown

0:31:070:31:12

# And on the dance floor broken glass

0:31:120:31:16

# And bloody faces slowly pass

0:31:160:31:20

# The numbered seats in empty rows

0:31:200:31:24

# It all belongs to me you know. #

0:31:240:31:29

OK!

0:31:310:31:34

There's this idea of The Who, who had these kind of mod roots,

0:31:340:31:39

and they later became a great big bloated rock band.

0:31:390:31:42

The distance between them being almost '70s rock stars

0:31:420:31:46

and the '60s roots of what they were is played up in this photograph.

0:31:460:31:51

You get this image of Jimmy, the mod, from the 1960s, clearly,

0:31:510:31:57

down on one knee and out here's the band coming out of Hammersmith Odeon

0:31:570:32:00

but the band appear to be like a '70s rock band and the interesting

0:32:000:32:05

thing is it's the distance between him and them, that's the time shift.

0:32:050:32:10

This is when the album is recorded,

0:32:100:32:12

this is the distance between these two things.

0:32:120:32:15

It's important.

0:32:150:32:17

# I'm the guy in the sky

0:32:170:32:19

# Flying high, flashing eyes

0:32:190:32:21

# No surprise I told lies

0:32:210:32:23

# I'm the punk in the gutter. #

0:32:230:32:25

He just happens to pass his ex-heroes, The Who,

0:32:250:32:30

and says to them, "You bunch of... You fucking let me down." That's all it's about.

0:32:300:32:36

This one song, Punk And The Godfather, that was it.

0:32:360:32:41

# I don't mind

0:32:410:32:44

# Other guys dancing with my girl

0:32:440:32:48

# That's fine

0:32:480:32:50

# I know them all pretty well... #

0:32:500:32:53

# Is it me for a moment? #

0:32:530:32:56

Records traditionally have tracks with gaps in between.

0:33:020:33:06

What Quadrophenia has is a soundscape

0:33:060:33:09

and the thing it's closest to is it's a film soundtrack.

0:33:090:33:14

So, between the tracks you get the sound of Jimmy's life, losing his bike,

0:33:140:33:19

losing his dirty job,

0:33:190:33:21

living rough on the streets alone.

0:33:210:33:24

The sound of the train in the station, the whistle.

0:33:260:33:31

The boiling kettle and a fried egg.

0:33:310:33:35

In a sense, it's using sound as music.

0:33:350:33:39

For sea and sand, for example, I literally walked down a beach

0:33:390:33:43

with a stereo mic singing sea and sand.

0:33:430:33:46

# Here by the sea and sand. #

0:33:460:33:49

But Quadrophenia had a sound, it was one sound from start to finish,

0:33:570:34:01

and that sound was the sound of the backing track.

0:34:010:34:03

TRAIN RUSHES PAST

0:34:030:34:06

What had happened was the Who couldn't find a studio that they liked,

0:34:120:34:15

so they said, "Let's buy a place and build our own,"

0:34:150:34:17

because they had some money then,

0:34:170:34:19

so they found this church in Battersea, in Thessaly Road, Battersea.

0:34:190:34:22

Thessaly Road was really a storage facility.

0:34:220:34:26

Pete Townshend came down one day to see where all his guitars were.

0:34:260:34:31

Blimey.

0:34:320:34:35

I'm surprised how spacious it is.

0:34:350:34:38

He looked around, he gave a click of his fingers, and he said,

0:34:410:34:45

"This has got good resonance."

0:34:450:34:48

It had, you know, a bright...

0:34:480:34:51

It's still got quite a bright sound in here.

0:34:510:34:54

But it was brighter than this, it was quite a bright...

0:34:540:34:57

And that was unusual at the time.

0:34:570:34:59

Most studios in London were a little bit deader than this one.

0:34:590:35:03

He said, "This would make a bloody good studio."

0:35:040:35:08

So, I goes, "Right, turn it into a studio."

0:35:080:35:10

There's a window, you can see, here,

0:35:100:35:14

just there, which would have allowed you to see from this room...

0:35:140:35:17

If you are sitting down, you could see into the control room,

0:35:170:35:21

which would have been there, where the doctor's waiting room is.

0:35:210:35:25

The main intention was that the control room should be quadraphonic.

0:35:250:35:29

There were no rooms in the UK, or in America at the time,

0:35:290:35:34

that had four speakers, one in each corner. There just weren't any.

0:35:340:35:37

This is an acoustic ceiling, designed...

0:35:370:35:40

They're always designed like this, with this dish,

0:35:400:35:43

and you can see that that would have been one of the plinths

0:35:430:35:46

on which we hung one of the quadraphonic speakers,

0:35:460:35:49

another one there, another one there.

0:35:490:35:51

You can see that the room is designed in a quadraphonic shape.

0:35:510:35:55

The mixing desk would've been here, tape machines there.

0:35:550:35:59

I had the idea to do something in quadraphonic

0:36:070:36:10

before I was certain about the story of Quadrophenia.

0:36:100:36:13

And the band that were doing the most experimentation with it

0:36:150:36:19

were Pink Floyd, and they'd done a couple of shows where

0:36:190:36:22

they'd introduced quadraphonic sound into their live shows.

0:36:220:36:25

# Money... Dum, dum, dum, dum, tchk... #

0:36:250:36:28

would come out in the back right, this great big chink,

0:36:280:36:31

then it would come out there, and then it goes round and round and round. It was very exciting.

0:36:310:36:35

So, we had a test unit sent over, and Pete hated it.

0:36:370:36:43

The separation wasn't... It was like a big mono.

0:36:430:36:46

And Pete said, "You know, I am not going to make

0:36:460:36:50

"a quadraphonic album that sounds worse than the stereo."

0:36:500:36:54

These days, on a computer, you can do this kind of thing in 15 seconds.

0:36:550:36:59

Back then, it was much harder.

0:36:590:37:02

We actually never mixed anything in quadraphonic.

0:37:030:37:06

Quadrophenia is strictly a stereo album.

0:37:060:37:09

At the same time as trying to do that, everything was up in the air.

0:37:090:37:13

They were building the studio and trying to record this thing

0:37:130:37:16

in the studio, while there were builders in there.

0:37:160:37:18

There's people under the desk, undoing things.

0:37:180:37:21

He says, "Hold on a minute, another take,"

0:37:210:37:24

and then they start... It was utter chaos.

0:37:240:37:26

What was different about our studio to everybody else's,

0:37:260:37:29

that we had the bar IN the fucking studio.

0:37:290:37:32

You know, you'd kind of go, "Na, na, na, nee, na,"

0:37:320:37:35

and then pour yourself a pint of beer,

0:37:350:37:37

or a pint of brandy, whatever it was, right there.

0:37:370:37:39

You didn't have to reach out very far.

0:37:390:37:41

The average Who session, not for Roger, but for John, Keith and I,

0:37:410:37:46

would start, we'd roll up, it would be two o'clock.

0:37:460:37:49

By four o'clock, we would have had enough brandy

0:37:490:37:52

to start fiddling around. We would be telling stories.

0:37:520:37:57

Roger hated all that stuff, he just thought it was time-wasting.

0:37:570:38:00

We were building round the making of Quadrophenia,

0:38:020:38:04

and we didn't know our arse from our elbow.

0:38:040:38:07

We didn't know what we were doing.

0:38:070:38:08

When the desk got put in, Pete said, "Let's hear what it sounds like,"

0:38:080:38:13

and all of us in the control room,

0:38:130:38:15

our ears and noses started to bleed.

0:38:150:38:17

I have a ruptured eardrum to this day, because of it.

0:38:170:38:20

We measured it.

0:38:200:38:22

It was louder than standing by the four engines of Concorde at full throttle.

0:38:220:38:28

It was 140 decibels, and one guitar blast...

0:38:290:38:34

..just projectile bleeding!

0:38:350:38:37

SHE LAUGHS

0:38:370:38:39

As well as the studio falling apart,

0:38:410:38:44

Townshend was in danger of losing his long-term creative ally and producer.

0:38:440:38:50

By the start of Quadrophenia, Townshend was still

0:38:500:38:52

under the illusion that Kit Lambert was going to be around to help him.

0:38:520:38:57

Kit Lambert and Chris Stone, their co-managers,

0:38:570:39:00

got into heroin and stuff.

0:39:000:39:01

So, they were kind of not looking after business,

0:39:010:39:05

or so Roger thought, because Roger found out that all the money

0:39:050:39:09

hadn't been accounted for, and there was some money missing.

0:39:090:39:12

That was a really sad period, actually.

0:39:120:39:14

Kit wanted to be THE producer, as such.

0:39:140:39:17

Kit Lambert, who had supposed to have been co-producing with me,

0:39:170:39:20

had stopped coming.

0:39:200:39:23

I took him out, and in the end I got so angry with Kit

0:39:230:39:27

over his behaviour, that I started to threaten him physically,

0:39:270:39:30

and funnily enough, Roger came out,

0:39:300:39:33

and calmed me down, and got Kit Lambert away,

0:39:330:39:37

and then we never really worked together again.

0:39:370:39:40

And daddy was long gone. Townshend was on his own.

0:39:450:39:48

It was pretty difficult, I didn't realise the extent of their drug use.

0:39:500:39:55

And I didn't realise

0:39:560:39:58

just how much destructive behaviour was going on.

0:39:580:40:03

And I guess that Pete felt incredible pressure.

0:40:030:40:07

The local community were really good to us.

0:40:180:40:21

They loved having the Who there,

0:40:210:40:23

and that was in the days when the power station was working.

0:40:230:40:26

You know, we had kids from the estate used to come in

0:40:260:40:30

and sit down in the front, sometimes.

0:40:300:40:32

5.15 was one of the songs that they let us listen to,

0:40:340:40:37

which was exciting.

0:40:370:40:38

Roger would say things like, "Girls, would you buy this song?" We would say yes or no.

0:40:380:40:42

"Do you think it would get to number one?"

0:40:420:40:45

The band now that haven't had a single out for two years.

0:40:450:40:47

They've taken a track off their forthcoming LP,

0:40:470:40:50

Quadrophenia, I think it's called,

0:40:500:40:52

and it's 5.15, and it's The Who!

0:40:520:40:54

The thing about 5.15 was that it was a sound check riff.

0:41:010:41:05

We were just getting the sound together,

0:41:050:41:07

and then we moved on to another song, but we were just riffing away.

0:41:070:41:10

# Why should I care?

0:41:100:41:14

# Why should I care...? #

0:41:140:41:17

This song is built around this riff coming up.

0:41:230:41:26

GUITAR MUSIC PLAYS

0:41:260:41:29

And then the horns complement that.

0:41:330:41:36

If I go back and play you what John plays,

0:41:420:41:45

you can hear that he plays an emulation of the guitar.

0:41:450:41:48

HORNS ECHO GUITAR CHORDS

0:41:480:41:51

HE SINGS ALONG

0:41:520:41:54

He's playing my guitar part for me...

0:41:560:41:58

..With the droning, which I always had in the background.

0:42:000:42:03

# Girls of fifteen

0:42:030:42:05

# Sexually knowing

0:42:050:42:07

# The ushers are sniffing

0:42:070:42:09

# Eau de Cologne-ing... #

0:42:090:42:11

And the ushers are sniffing, eau de Cologne-ing,

0:42:110:42:14

was a reference to the young girls at the Beatles concert in Blackpool.

0:42:140:42:18

The whole of Blackpool... this Blackpool theatre

0:42:180:42:21

smelt of urine. I mean, it was just beyond belief.

0:42:210:42:25

Every single girl in the audience must have pissed themselves

0:42:250:42:28

in excitement, and they were sprinkling eau de Cologne

0:42:280:42:31

on all the seats, because it was apparently what you do,

0:42:310:42:34

was you sprinkle eau de Cologne.

0:42:340:42:36

# Girls of fifteen

0:42:360:42:37

# Sexually knowing

0:42:370:42:39

# The ushers are sniffing

0:42:390:42:41

# Eau de Cologne-ing

0:42:410:42:43

# The seats are seductive

0:42:430:42:45

# Celibate sitting

0:42:450:42:47

# Pretty girls digging

0:42:470:42:49

# Prettier women

0:42:490:42:51

# Magically bored

0:42:510:42:53

# On a quiet street corner

0:42:530:42:55

# Free frustration

0:42:550:42:57

# In our minds and our toes

0:42:570:42:59

# Quiet storm water

0:42:590:43:01

# M-M-My generation

0:43:010:43:02

# Uppers and downers

0:43:020:43:04

# Either way, blood flows... #

0:43:040:43:08

Jimmy's fallen out of love with his idols,

0:43:080:43:10

he's been thrown out of his home.

0:43:100:43:12

The scooter's been crashed.

0:43:120:43:14

Right, now what you do? This is the going off into the wilderness,

0:43:140:43:17

cos actually what he's doing, he's going off in search of Xanadu.

0:43:170:43:20

# ..Inside, outside

0:43:220:43:24

# Leave me alone... #

0:43:240:43:26

'He's going back to find the thing that makes sense to him,

0:43:260:43:29

'you know, being on the beach, being down in Brighton,

0:43:290:43:32

'being part of the whole mod culture thing.'

0:43:320:43:34

# ..Out of my brain on the 5.15... #

0:43:340:43:38

'And he's going off in search of something

0:43:380:43:41

'that he already knows is gone.

0:43:410:43:43

'That, I think, is why that song is so powerful,

0:43:430:43:46

'because it's the sense that something has already been lost.'

0:43:460:43:50

He goes back to Brighton,

0:44:320:44:33

but there's that lovely idea that Townshend captures,

0:44:330:44:36

a very English idea of going to a seaside town after the fair's left. You're off season.

0:44:360:44:40

But, actually, there's a strange beauty in it,

0:44:420:44:44

and the beauty is that he feels calm by the sea and the sand,

0:44:440:44:47

because everything else has passed away.

0:44:470:44:50

# Here by the sea and sand

0:44:500:44:53

# Nothing ever goes as planned

0:44:540:44:56

# I just couldn't face going home

0:44:560:44:59

# It was just a drag on my own... #

0:44:590:45:03

Jimmy is drawn to - and this is the reason

0:45:030:45:06

why he is not the same as everyone else -

0:45:060:45:09

is that he goes and talks to the sea.

0:45:090:45:11

The image of him looking out at something much bigger than all of this.

0:45:110:45:15

Brighton, the mod culture thing, is happening behind here,

0:45:150:45:18

on the promenade, on the pier, but actually what he's doing

0:45:180:45:20

is looking out at the vast expanse of the sea,

0:45:200:45:22

and the sea is speaking to him.

0:45:220:45:25

# Let me flow into the ocean

0:45:280:45:32

# Let me get back to the sea

0:45:320:45:34

# Let me be stormy and let me be calm

0:45:350:45:39

# Let the tide in and set me free... #

0:45:410:45:45

That was a song written about the spiritual journey.

0:45:480:45:52

# ..I want to drown... #

0:45:520:45:54

It's about, "Let me get back to the sea.

0:45:570:46:00

"Let me get back to the ocean," meaning, "Let me get back to God,"

0:46:000:46:04

which is brought on by walking on the beach, by the sea.

0:46:040:46:08

There's nobody there but him, he's on his own.

0:46:080:46:10

# ..Let me flow into the ocean

0:46:100:46:14

# Let me get back to the sea

0:46:140:46:17

# Let me be stormy and let me be calm

0:46:180:46:22

# Let the tide in, rush over me

0:46:220:46:27

# You know, I want to drown, drown

0:46:290:46:33

# Drown, drown, drown

0:46:330:46:36

# I want to drown, drown

0:46:370:46:41

# Drown, drown, drown

0:46:410:46:44

# I want to drown, drown

0:46:440:46:48

# Drown, drown, drown... #

0:46:480:46:51

It's interesting that out of that calm and peace

0:46:550:46:58

comes the story's whole turning point, where Jimmy meets up

0:46:580:47:01

with this key figure from his past,

0:47:010:47:03

the leader of the mods, the Ace Face.

0:47:030:47:05

The idea is that Jimmy goes back and he finds this character,

0:47:070:47:11

the Ace Face, who he really, really idolised,

0:47:110:47:14

but in fact, the guy who was smashing in the hotel doors with him

0:47:140:47:17

just recently is now working as a bellboy.

0:47:170:47:20

# The beach is a place where a man can feel

0:47:360:47:39

# He's the only soul in the world that's real... #

0:47:400:47:44

Jimmy sees his hero in the harsh midday sun being nobody.

0:47:440:47:51

# ..Well, I see a face coming through the haze

0:47:510:47:54

# I remember him from those crazy days... #

0:47:560:47:59

And if this person, who was so exalted, who was so perfect,

0:47:590:48:03

that he idolised, is nothing,

0:48:030:48:06

then Jimmy has nothing, he is nothing.

0:48:060:48:09

# ..Riding up in front of a hundred faces

0:48:090:48:14

# I don't suppose you would remember me

0:48:140:48:17

# But I used to follow you back in '63... #

0:48:170:48:21

Jimmy's rank disillusion at the idea that the person

0:48:220:48:26

he idolised is a fucking bellboy.

0:48:260:48:30

# ..I've got a good job

0:48:360:48:38

# And I'm newly born

0:48:380:48:40

# You should see me dressed up in my uniform

0:48:400:48:44

# I work in a hotel All gilt and flash

0:48:440:48:47

# Remember the gaff where the doors we smashed?

0:48:470:48:51

# Bell boy

0:48:510:48:53

# I got to get running now... #

0:48:530:48:55

It was quite difficult working with Keith as a singer, because he acted, rather than sang.

0:48:550:49:00

# ..Carry the bloody baggage out

0:49:000:49:02

# Bell boy

0:49:020:49:04

# Always running at someone's heel... #

0:49:040:49:07

I loved the way he did that.

0:49:070:49:08

It's the kind of thing you could imagine a bellboy doing,

0:49:110:49:14

working at a posh hotel.

0:49:140:49:15

"Cor blimey," like this, with his mates,

0:49:150:49:18

and then when after a tip, it's, "Hello, sir."

0:49:180:49:21

I was uncomfortable with turning the bellboy into a comedy figure,

0:49:230:49:27

because I thought, "This is the only time that the Ace Face sings."

0:49:270:49:31

# ..Remembering when stars were in reach

0:49:310:49:35

# I wander in early to work... #

0:49:370:49:39

A couple of times, I said to him, "It's not a comedy."

0:49:390:49:42

# ..Spend my day licking boots for my perks... #

0:49:420:49:45

Whoosh! That would have gone...

0:49:470:49:49

# ..The beach is a place where a man can feel

0:49:500:49:53

# He's the only soul in the world that's real... #

0:49:530:49:57

INTERVIEWER: What was Keith like in 1973?

0:49:580:50:01

Just a little bit more drunk than he was in 1972!

0:50:010:50:06

The extraordinary thing about Keith

0:50:100:50:12

was that whatever you felt about him as a drummer,

0:50:120:50:14

and I didn't think very much of him as a drummer...

0:50:140:50:18

HE LAUGHS

0:50:180:50:20

It's kind of sacrilege, isn't it? But I didn't.

0:50:200:50:23

He listened.

0:50:230:50:25

People would call him a sloppy drummer, and he never was a sloppy drummer.

0:50:250:50:28

He had an extraordinary metronome. He made the music dramatic.

0:50:280:50:33

What he wouldn't do is play, "Boom, boom, bup, ba, boom, ba."

0:50:370:50:41

He'd be, "Blrr-plplrprl! Bing, bing, bing!

0:50:410:50:43

"Bing, bing, bing! Tiddle, bing, bing!

0:50:430:50:46

"Biddle, bing, bing," you know?

0:50:460:50:48

And I'd be going, "Boom, boom, bang, bang, boom,"

0:50:480:50:51

because somebody had to!

0:50:510:50:53

# ..People often change

0:51:010:51:03

# But when I look in your eyes

0:51:030:51:04

# You could learn a lot from a life like mine

0:51:040:51:08

# The secret to me

0:51:080:51:10

# It ain't flown like a flag

0:51:100:51:12

# I wear it behind this bloody little badge

0:51:120:51:15

# What says...

0:51:150:51:16

# Bell boy... #

0:51:160:51:18

He was at the top of his game in '73, '73-'74,

0:51:180:51:21

absolute top of his game.

0:51:210:51:24

He was magnificent, and funny as hell.

0:51:240:51:27

You know, I tell the funny stories about him showing up

0:51:290:51:31

and saying, "Come outside and look at my new car!"

0:51:310:51:33

We'd go out and there'd be a Rolls-Royce.

0:51:330:51:36

We'd say, "That's fabulous, Keith, great."

0:51:360:51:38

Then two hours later, we'd have somebody from Jack Barclay's -

0:51:380:51:41

"Where do I send the invoice for Keith Moon's new car?

0:51:410:51:44

"He said we've got to send it to the Who group. Is it the Who group?"

0:51:440:51:47

I said, "No, you send it to Keith Moon."

0:51:470:51:49

"No, no, no. We have to send it to the Who group."

0:51:490:51:52

"No, we're not fucking paying for it, OK?

0:51:520:51:54

"This is his car, let him pay for it."

0:51:540:51:56

"No, no, you don't understand..."

0:51:560:51:57

"No, you don't fucking understand. We're not paying for his car."

0:51:570:52:00

Ah! That's better!

0:52:000:52:02

Phil, what-what-what-what-what...

0:52:050:52:08

'I think today you'd say he had ADHD

0:52:090:52:12

'and he needed some Ritalin, or something.'

0:52:120:52:14

LAUGHTER

0:52:160:52:19

But taking cocaine and Mandrax and brandy was exacerbating it.

0:52:190:52:24

It was always a mixture with Keith.

0:52:250:52:27

You know, fun one minute and a bit frightening the next.

0:52:270:52:32

Never felt afraid OF him, but frightened for him

0:52:320:52:35

and people around him.

0:52:350:52:37

And he wasn't at his best as a human being at that time.

0:52:370:52:43

I don't think any of us were, really.

0:52:430:52:45

I shouldn't really single him out.

0:52:450:52:47

There's a credit on the inside of the sleeve which says,

0:53:000:53:02

"Quadrophenia in its entirety by Pete Townshend."

0:53:020:53:06

Townshend writes, records the entire album himself in demo form

0:53:080:53:13

and then, when he brought it to the Who, they did it again.

0:53:130:53:16

Quadrophenia was definitely like a Pete Townshend solo project.

0:53:180:53:22

It was all Townshend from start to finish, his own...

0:53:220:53:25

They probably knew nothing about it till he came and said, "Here it is."

0:53:250:53:29

So, you could see how Roger and maybe the others would feel

0:53:290:53:33

a little bit resentful, because it could be construed

0:53:330:53:36

as being used like session musicians, you know.

0:53:360:53:39

I hear it said that Pete produced the album, which in a sense he did.

0:53:390:53:44

But the one thing he never, ever produced was the vocals.

0:53:440:53:46

He's never there when I record my vocals, ever. I won't have that.

0:53:460:53:50

Roger was always tough, assertive, masculine.

0:53:510:53:55

So there was always that sense that you had to be careful what you said around him, you really did.

0:53:550:54:00

Pete's a very complicated character,

0:54:000:54:03

incredibly complicated, as you can see by the songs he writes.

0:54:030:54:07

They had an addiction to friction.

0:54:080:54:10

It's almost like they're two jigsaw pieces,

0:54:100:54:13

and when you bring them together they fit together.

0:54:130:54:15

It's an absolute love-hate...

0:54:170:54:19

Not hate, but it's a love-anger relationship.

0:54:190:54:23

And I think if you take away the love-anger,

0:54:280:54:30

you take away the creative source.

0:54:300:54:33

You take away the driving dynamic.

0:54:330:54:36

So he steals a boat, in the story,

0:55:080:55:10

and goes out to sea and almost drowns.

0:55:100:55:13

It's clearly written as, is this going to be what happens

0:55:130:55:16

to this boy whose life's kind of fallen apart?

0:55:160:55:19

Who's twice schizophrenic, pilled out, lost, he's got nothing,

0:55:190:55:23

doesn't have a girl, doesn't have a bike,

0:55:230:55:26

doesn't have anything.

0:55:260:55:27

And that's kind of what we're shooting.

0:55:270:55:30

And then he's now really adrift.

0:55:300:55:33

And then this, which I just kind of love.

0:55:330:55:35

Love Reign O'er Me.

0:55:350:55:37

# Only love... #

0:55:480:55:51

What's interesting about...

0:55:510:55:53

..the opening here is that what you hear from Roger

0:55:550:55:58

is incredible tenderness.

0:55:580:56:01

You don't hear the heartfelt bawling,

0:56:030:56:06

screaming bear that you hear later on.

0:56:060:56:09

# Only love

0:56:100:56:12

# Can make it rain

0:56:120:56:15

# The way the beach

0:56:150:56:18

# Is kissed by the sea

0:56:180:56:20

# Only love

0:56:220:56:25

# Can make it rain

0:56:250:56:27

# Like the set of lovers

0:56:270:56:31

# Laying in the fields... #

0:56:310:56:33

Then you get to this impassioned scream.

0:56:330:56:36

# ..Love!

0:56:360:56:39

# Reign o'er me... #

0:56:400:56:43

If nothing else, Love Reign O'er Me shows that Jimmy's a man.

0:56:440:56:48

# ..Love... #

0:56:480:56:50

A boy wants to be noticed at a club,

0:56:500:56:53

wants a jacket.

0:56:530:56:55

Here, at the end, Jimmy is finally becoming a man

0:56:550:56:58

and asking for things that men want.

0:56:580:57:00

# ..Reign o'er me

0:57:000:57:02

# Only love

0:57:060:57:09

# Can bring the rain... #

0:57:090:57:10

Jimmy is the hero, at last.

0:57:100:57:12

It's not about The Who, it's not about Roger,

0:57:120:57:14

it's not about Pete, not about John, not about the mods,

0:57:140:57:17

it's not about Ace Face, not about drugs, or any of that stuff.

0:57:170:57:20

It's just about Jimmy and what it is that he's finally got to,

0:57:200:57:24

is that he realises that he's been looking outside himself,

0:57:240:57:26

and what he has to do now is to try to ask the question internally,

0:57:260:57:30

and that what this song does.

0:57:300:57:32

# ..Love!

0:57:320:57:34

# Reign o'er me

0:57:370:57:40

# Reign o'er me, reign o'er me

0:57:400:57:44

# Love!

0:57:440:57:47

# Reign o'er me

0:57:490:57:52

# Reign o'er me, reign o'er me... #

0:57:520:57:59

The poignancy for me was that, as a composer, working with The Who

0:58:090:58:14

was so great because they used to give me this unbelievable licence.

0:58:140:58:18

They didn't share my spiritual beliefs - that's fine -

0:58:180:58:21

they didn't share my spiritual beliefs but they allowed me

0:58:210:58:23

to have them, and to express them through my work.

0:58:230:58:26

And when it came to a song like Love Reign O'er Me,

0:58:260:58:28

which is a spiritual prayer to nothing and everything,

0:58:280:58:31

Roger gave it his bollocks.

0:58:310:58:34

This is Roger coming in in a second.

0:58:390:58:42

'I did it as a scream from the street.'

0:58:440:58:47

I wanted it to be like the ultimate anger, the ultimate passion,

0:58:480:58:52

the ultimate orgasm, you know.

0:58:520:58:53

'I wanted it to be like every emotion we've ever had.'

0:58:550:58:59

# ..Lo-o-o-ove!

0:58:590:59:01

# Reign o'er me

0:59:030:59:05

# Reign over me, over me, over me

0:59:050:59:09

# Whoa! Love! #

0:59:090:59:12

Because then it's unconditional to the track.

0:59:120:59:16

And love should be always unconditional.

0:59:160:59:19

# O-o-o'er me... #

0:59:190:59:23

You get this sense of Roger

0:59:270:59:29

producing this deep scream from his heart,

0:59:290:59:32

from Jimmy's heart.

0:59:320:59:33

# ..Love... #

0:59:350:59:38

HE CHUCKLES

0:59:400:59:42

The end of Quadrophenia is left ambiguous.

0:59:490:59:54

The illusion of drowning and water

0:59:540:59:57

is throughout the album, and that can be death or rebirth.

0:59:571:00:02

The question of what happens to Jimmy next,

1:00:031:00:06

I really like the fact that it's in the hands of the listener.

1:00:061:00:11

We're going to go on the road again. We're doing a tour of Europe.

1:00:271:00:31

Then we do America

1:00:311:00:33

and we come back to Europe

1:00:331:00:36

and then we do America again.

1:00:361:00:38

We've got two American tours lined up.

1:00:381:00:39

The day that we finished the stereo mix,

1:00:391:00:42

our managers booked a fucking tour.

1:00:421:00:44

So I had two weeks to rehearse, to develop the stage's quadraphonic sound,

1:00:461:00:52

which was impossible.

1:00:521:00:54

We didn't have the time. So they overworked us.

1:00:541:00:57

I didn't take into account properly at that time

1:00:581:01:01

the load that Pete had,

1:01:011:01:03

what with the mixing and everything else.

1:01:031:01:05

I was trying to help them survive.

1:01:051:01:07

Speaking for myself, I was dead meat.

1:01:091:01:11

Actually completely exhausted. I'm sure Roger was exhausted too.

1:01:111:01:15

We had employed a bunch of people that were our friends

1:01:151:01:20

to film the rehearsal

1:01:201:01:22

and I think we got through to Doctor Jimmy

1:01:221:01:27

and they'd been sitting on their boxes with cameras

1:01:271:01:31

and I just said to them, "You can sit on your fucking arses all afternoon

1:01:311:01:34

"cos I'm not singing this again.

1:01:341:01:36

"I thought you were supposed to be filming this?"

1:01:361:01:39

I don't know why, but for some reason

1:01:391:01:42

this other side of Pete came over and started poking me.

1:01:421:01:45

"They do what I tell them to do!"

1:01:451:01:48

And doing this to me.

1:01:481:01:50

All the roadies jump on me and start holding my arms.

1:01:501:01:53

I started to scream at him

1:01:531:01:55

and I can't remember the details but we ended up in a physical grappling.

1:01:551:02:00

He pulled his guitar off and, as he brought it down,

1:02:001:02:03

he tried to hit me on the head with it.

1:02:031:02:05

And it glanced off my shoulder, like that.

1:02:051:02:08

Then he threw a punch and it went one way and I moved that way.

1:02:081:02:11

Then he threw the other punch, and as he was coming forward

1:02:111:02:14

with his right hand this way, I upper-cutted him.

1:02:141:02:18

And he hit me and I passed out.

1:02:181:02:21

AUDIENCE CHEERS

1:02:211:02:24

-ANNOUNCER:

-Here they are...The Who!

1:02:361:02:39

At the shows, you could see they'd introduced our new work

1:02:391:02:42

and the audience were going, "Yeah", and it would start and they'd go...

1:02:421:02:46

We'd like to carry on our present act

1:02:461:02:50

with our new album,

1:02:501:02:52

or parts of it.

1:02:521:02:55

I don't know what they expected, but the audience, it was new to them.

1:02:551:02:59

'Then what started to happen is that Roger started to tell the story.'

1:02:591:03:04

This one's about his feelings when he gets down to the seaside.

1:03:041:03:09

Every time we played a song, he was stopping and saying,

1:03:091:03:11

"Now Jimmy has fucked off with his dad.

1:03:111:03:13

"He's going to go and get a job."

1:03:131:03:14

The next song is about a guy

1:03:181:03:21

who sees an old gang leader who's working as a bellhop.

1:03:211:03:25

When somebody's talking on stage, you can't hear it.

1:03:251:03:28

Half the time you're, "What did he say?"

1:03:281:03:30

So you had that confusion going on at these Quadrophenia shows.

1:03:301:03:34

So I probably gave Pete a load of problems he didn't need.

1:03:381:03:41

After that, things fell apart.

1:03:441:03:47

It was the first night of the Quadrophenia US shows

1:03:511:03:55

and Moon takes elephant tranquiliser and he starts off strong enough,

1:03:551:04:00

and a few songs in, he collapses.

1:04:001:04:02

He's out cold.

1:04:051:04:08

I think he's gone and eaten something he shouldn't have eaten.

1:04:081:04:13

It's your foreign food.

1:04:131:04:15

I'm afraid the horrible truth is,

1:04:171:04:22

that without him, we're not a group.

1:04:221:04:25

Yeah, he did that kind of thing all the time.

1:04:261:04:29

It's just that this time, the drugs were too powerful for him.

1:04:291:04:33

He's still a bit sort of dodgy.

1:04:411:04:44

But he'll be all right.

1:04:461:04:48

He is dragged off stage and they take a break

1:04:591:05:01

and they come back and he makes it through

1:05:011:05:04

and then by the end of Won't Get Fooled Again, he's dead.

1:05:041:05:08

He is lifeless, he's Jell-O.

1:05:081:05:10

Can anybody play the drums?

1:05:221:05:24

And then they had this fan, Scott Halpin, come play drums with them.

1:05:261:05:30

Scott!

1:05:301:05:32

And that's how they kicked off what already was a difficult tour.

1:05:321:05:35

We managed to kind of soldier on. We could put a brave face on it.

1:05:391:05:44

I could tell funny stories about it

1:05:441:05:46

and we could all have a good laugh, but it was tragic.

1:05:461:05:50

It was really tragic, cos Keith was being a fool.

1:05:501:05:54

We got good reviews and the album sold well,

1:06:041:06:06

but when we came back to Europe the following year,

1:06:061:06:09

we weren't even playing it.

1:06:091:06:10

Went back to playing Tommy.

1:06:101:06:13

And what's interesting about this album is it kind of worked.

1:06:161:06:20

We never really ever made a truly great album again.

1:06:201:06:24

You pulled this letter out, it's a painful letter,

1:06:361:06:39

but this is the man I was at a point.

1:06:391:06:43

Ted Oldman was our lawyer at the time

1:06:431:06:47

and in this last week of recording here I think I just thought,

1:06:471:06:53

"I've had it with this.

1:06:531:06:55

"This is not going to happen. We're not going to get an album.

1:06:551:06:57

"We're screwed in some way."

1:07:001:07:01

I probably had a bad day, but it says,

1:07:011:07:04

"Dear Ted, I'm writing to you in strictest confidence to ask advice

1:07:041:07:07

"and to seek guidance on a matter I feel only you can help me with.

1:07:071:07:12

"I've spoken to my wife and very intimate friends about this,

1:07:121:07:15

"but I found the making of this current record a great strain.

1:07:151:07:18

"The studio building problems, the writing problems

1:07:181:07:21

"and, of course, Kit and Keith have been aggravations

1:07:211:07:24

"to an already difficult time.

1:07:241:07:25

"I've been building up to this for many years now

1:07:251:07:28

"and I feel that, as of now,

1:07:281:07:30

"the record we are making and the current tours we are undertaking

1:07:301:07:33

"will be the last I want to be involved with as The Who as a group.

1:07:331:07:37

"I'm losing any impetus either to write for The Who as a vehicle

1:07:371:07:40

"or play with its members as a musician."

1:07:401:07:42

You know we were done. We were definitely done.

1:07:421:07:44

And this letter is indicative of the fact that

1:07:441:07:48

I would have gone home in that week and taken my wife aside

1:07:481:07:52

and said, "You know, we haven't had a holiday for fucking two years.

1:07:521:07:55

"I've hardly seen you.

1:07:551:07:57

"We probably haven't made love for six weeks, six months,

1:07:571:08:00

"God knows what.

1:08:001:08:02

"I probably missed you at Christmas. I probably missed our anniversary.

1:08:021:08:05

"I'm sorry. It was all a fucking complete waste of time."

1:08:051:08:09

That's probably what I would have said to her.

1:08:091:08:11

And she probably would have said to me,

1:08:111:08:12

"Well, if that's how you feel you should stop, sweetheart."

1:08:121:08:15

And I write this letter and I didn't send it.

1:08:151:08:18

MUSIC: "Drowned" by The Who

1:08:361:08:39

# There are men high up there fishing

1:08:431:08:47

# Haven't seen quite enough of the world

1:08:471:08:50

# I ain't seen a sign of my hero

1:08:501:08:54

# And I'm still diving down for pearls

1:08:541:08:59

# Let me flow into the ocean

1:08:591:09:02

# Let me get back to the sea

1:09:021:09:06

# Let me be stormy and let me be calm

1:09:061:09:08

# Let the tide in and set me free. #

1:09:081:09:13

Download Subtitles

SRT

ASS