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This programme contains strong language | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
# Substitute your lies for fact...# | 0:00:05 | 0:00:08 | |
# I can see for miles and miles I can see for miles and miles...# | 0:00:11 | 0:00:17 | |
The Who started as a band with four very different individuals | 0:00:20 | 0:00:24 | |
with very, very different needs. | 0:00:24 | 0:00:26 | |
Got a few hits, | 0:00:26 | 0:00:29 | |
managed to pull off Tommy, | 0:00:29 | 0:00:32 | |
managed to pull off some kind of amazing live stage energy. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:38 | |
APPLAUSE AND CHEERING | 0:00:38 | 0:00:39 | |
# Touch me...# | 0:00:39 | 0:00:42 | |
'A special TUC conference in London has voted...' | 0:00:45 | 0:00:48 | |
'New challenges and burdens created by the oil crisis...' | 0:00:48 | 0:00:52 | |
'As the gas situation gets worse...' | 0:00:52 | 0:00:54 | |
'The miners need some inducement to come to talks...' | 0:00:54 | 0:00:56 | |
'I think the three-day week should be called off at once.' | 0:00:56 | 0:00:59 | |
'Ten years on from The Who's first successes comes the release | 0:00:59 | 0:01:03 | |
'this weekend of a new double album that could be a step on, | 0:01:03 | 0:01:06 | |
'even from Tommy, Quadrophenia.' | 0:01:06 | 0:01:09 | |
# Love... | 0:01:09 | 0:01:12 | |
# Reign on me...# | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
When we got to Quadrophenia, talking 1973, | 0:01:17 | 0:01:22 | |
something strange was happening to the internal politics of the band. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:26 | |
It was quite clear that Keith Moon was certifiably insane | 0:01:26 | 0:01:30 | |
and that if he hadn't had a drum kit to play with, he probably would have ended up in jail. | 0:01:30 | 0:01:34 | |
John Entwistle simply wasn't happy because he was a songwriter, | 0:01:36 | 0:01:40 | |
and it seemed as though for him, the band had come all about me and my ideas. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:45 | |
Roger wanted something which meant he could swing his hair and looked glamorous | 0:01:45 | 0:01:48 | |
and take his chest off and be a superstar. | 0:01:48 | 0:01:51 | |
I had difficulties as well. Lifehouse, which followed Tommy, failed. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:59 | |
The accusation was, "You failed with your big idea | 0:01:59 | 0:02:03 | |
"because you're an arty-farty pretentious twat." | 0:02:03 | 0:02:06 | |
It felt, to me, as though we were drifting apart. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:10 | |
So my first mission, my first part of the brief that | 0:02:11 | 0:02:14 | |
I gave myself was replace Tommy as a performing vehicle, that was it. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:20 | |
# I don't mind other guys dancing with my girl | 0:02:21 | 0:02:26 | |
# That's fine | 0:02:28 | 0:02:29 | |
# I know them all pretty well...# | 0:02:29 | 0:02:32 | |
# Is it me for a moment... | 0:02:32 | 0:02:35 | |
# For a moment, for a moment... # | 0:02:35 | 0:02:39 | |
So my story was, I'd bought this riverside property out... | 0:02:39 | 0:02:44 | |
It's actually in a place called Cleeve on the River Thames. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:49 | |
One day I got this call | 0:02:49 | 0:02:51 | |
about Eric who was wallowing | 0:02:51 | 0:02:55 | |
down in his house in the country, | 0:02:55 | 0:02:58 | |
and would I go down and see Eric? | 0:02:58 | 0:03:01 | |
Eric had done an album and ended up as a heroin user. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:06 | |
I remember going down and seeing him. He was very courteous, very kind, very dignified, very loving, | 0:03:06 | 0:03:10 | |
very friendly as he always was to me. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:13 | |
But I was affected by it. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:15 | |
I start to think about how we can... | 0:03:15 | 0:03:18 | |
..Not rescue Eric, but just to kind of stimulate him. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:24 | |
I turned to a couple of my mates, Ronnie Wood, Stevie Winwood | 0:03:24 | 0:03:28 | |
and we came here, to this house, to rehearse. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:31 | |
And we were in the room over there and we all gathered together. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:36 | |
I was nodding off and Rick the bass player said, "Try this." I said, "What is it?" | 0:03:36 | 0:03:40 | |
He said it is a kind of a popper thing, | 0:03:40 | 0:03:43 | |
he said, it wakes you up, and it was amyl nitrate. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:45 | |
And I took it and I went, "Oh, that's fun, a bit of a buzz," | 0:03:45 | 0:03:50 | |
and then played. I did not get stuck on it but I used it quite a bit. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:54 | |
Once the concert with Eric in January 1973 was over, I suppose | 0:03:55 | 0:03:59 | |
I must have had some sort of come down from the lack of amyl nitrate. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:03 | |
On a dark, wet winter weekend at the cottage at Cleeve, | 0:04:05 | 0:04:07 | |
with the river running faster than usual, | 0:04:07 | 0:04:11 | |
I had a flashback to when I was 19 years old. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:13 | |
The Who had just played this amazing gig at the Aquarium Ballroom | 0:04:15 | 0:04:18 | |
in Brighton and I was with my art school friend Des Reed. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:21 | |
After the gig we missed the train home. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:26 | |
So we hung out and we went down under the pier | 0:04:26 | 0:04:29 | |
and there were all these boys in parkas | 0:04:29 | 0:04:33 | |
with the fucking tide coming up around their feet. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:35 | |
They didn't seem to understand that they were going to drown! | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
Under the pier, I was coming down from taking purple hearts, | 0:04:44 | 0:04:47 | |
the fashionable uppers of the period. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:50 | |
Sitting there at Cleeve, that day nine years later, | 0:04:50 | 0:04:53 | |
that same feeling came flooding back of feeling depressed, | 0:04:53 | 0:04:57 | |
lost and hopeless and I grabbed a notebook. | 0:04:57 | 0:04:59 | |
Quickly when I was still in this sad and lonely mood, | 0:04:59 | 0:05:02 | |
I scribbled out the story that is on the inside sleeve of the original album of Quadrophenia. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:07 | |
This was the story of a mod called Jimmy. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
Jimmy was a normal boy, with normal needs, passing through the normal | 0:05:11 | 0:05:16 | |
things of childhood, but what made everything so much more complicated | 0:05:16 | 0:05:20 | |
for him was he had a bipolar problem, he was schizophrenic. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:25 | |
I think that Jimmy is meant to be, instead of schizophrenic, | 0:05:26 | 0:05:30 | |
he is meant to be quadrophrenic, and that is the original concept, | 0:05:30 | 0:05:35 | |
to have Jimmy have these four personalities. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:38 | |
So Quadrophenia was a double-album, | 0:05:42 | 0:05:44 | |
in the old days of vinyl that meant you had two 12 inch vinyl discs. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:47 | |
And it's that difficult, dodgy '70s thing, the concept album. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:53 | |
A sensitive story of a mod on a journey of self-discovery, | 0:05:53 | 0:05:59 | |
but played by The Who - tough, muscular, physical, a man's band. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:04 | |
What I know is that I'm going to be on a stage | 0:06:09 | 0:06:11 | |
with a bunch of yobbos with an electric guitar. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:15 | |
I'm going to have to turn it up, I'm going to have to jump up and down, | 0:06:15 | 0:06:18 | |
I'm going to have to tell them to fuck off and shut up. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:20 | |
This is Pete, the writer, trying to serve Keith and John and Roger, | 0:06:20 | 0:06:25 | |
giving them really stimulating, useful | 0:06:25 | 0:06:27 | |
fucking stuff that they can express their stage personalities through. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:31 | |
The Who's sound has got those warring elements in it. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:37 | |
On the one hand they are a street fighting band, doing all that physical, | 0:06:37 | 0:06:40 | |
visceral side on the one hand, | 0:06:40 | 0:06:42 | |
on the other hand that spiritual, whimsical, | 0:06:42 | 0:06:45 | |
melancholic lyrical side and banging them together, often in one song. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:49 | |
This bit of paper is kind of, on the top line you've got me, | 0:06:52 | 0:06:57 | |
Roger, John, Keith. | 0:06:57 | 0:06:59 | |
The next line is good, bad, romance. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
They are joined together with the word sex, insanity. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:06 | |
The idea that each of these themes would produce songs. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:10 | |
In actual fact, this is just a musical blueprint for what | 0:07:10 | 0:07:14 | |
I wanted to do. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:17 | |
Pete, you know, is working very hard. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
I don't know quite what on but... | 0:07:20 | 0:07:24 | |
You know, I think it'll be good. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:27 | |
The trouble is with Pete, working with him, | 0:07:27 | 0:07:31 | |
he had these wonderful little kernels of ideas | 0:07:31 | 0:07:34 | |
but then he would want to pitch them and make them into stories. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:37 | |
But we got the essence of it. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:40 | |
This guy's got all the personalities of every member in the band | 0:07:40 | 0:07:43 | |
and it's just one guy. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:45 | |
And that was enough for me to say, "Great idea, let's go for it." | 0:07:45 | 0:07:49 | |
This is how the album starts, OK. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:51 | |
WAVES CRASH | 0:07:54 | 0:07:55 | |
No other Who album starts with ambient noise. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:01 | |
And it very specifically is putting you in a place, | 0:08:02 | 0:08:07 | |
it sets a scene, which none of the other Who albums did. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:11 | |
Once we had the sea noise going, | 0:08:14 | 0:08:16 | |
we just introduced each theme of the four themes. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:20 | |
The first thing you hear is I Am The Sea, | 0:08:20 | 0:08:22 | |
the breathy sound of, "I am the sea." | 0:08:22 | 0:08:25 | |
And do-dee-do-do-do, which is the Helpless Dancer. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:37 | |
Then you hear, is it me for a moment, which is the romantic side | 0:08:42 | 0:08:46 | |
and so on. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:47 | |
# Is it me, for a moment For a moment, for a moment...# | 0:08:47 | 0:08:53 | |
Instead of having a straight overture, | 0:08:54 | 0:08:57 | |
you get pieces of the songs and it comes back as memories. | 0:08:57 | 0:09:02 | |
# Bellboy, bellboy...# | 0:09:02 | 0:09:06 | |
You're automatically put on that rock. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:12 | |
# Love... | 0:09:12 | 0:09:18 | |
# Reign o'er me. # | 0:09:18 | 0:09:22 | |
And you hear the themes and then bang into the first track which is, | 0:09:22 | 0:09:25 | |
Can You See The Real Me? | 0:09:25 | 0:09:27 | |
# Can you see the real me, can ya? Can ya? # | 0:09:27 | 0:09:33 | |
He's at the doctor, he's going to the shrink, | 0:09:46 | 0:09:50 | |
he's going to the priest, he's going to his mother for advice, | 0:09:50 | 0:09:53 | |
and I wanted to establish very, very quickly | 0:09:53 | 0:09:57 | |
that this is not just a troubled boy, this is a boy that has mental illness. | 0:09:57 | 0:10:03 | |
He's bipolar or he's manic-depressive. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:07 | |
And this idea of him being, you know, doubly schizophrenic. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:13 | |
# I went back to my mother | 0:10:17 | 0:10:20 | |
# I said, I'm crazy, ma, help me | 0:10:20 | 0:10:23 | |
# She said, I know how it feels, son | 0:10:23 | 0:10:27 | |
# Cos it runs in the family | 0:10:27 | 0:10:30 | |
# Can you see the real me, mother, mother? | 0:10:31 | 0:10:37 | |
# Can you see the real me, mother | 0:10:37 | 0:10:41 | |
# Whoa, Mama... # | 0:10:41 | 0:10:44 | |
Once you hear that track, | 0:10:44 | 0:10:46 | |
you know that this is going to be the revelation of a condition. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:49 | |
Jimmy gets up in the morning, goes to see his shrink, | 0:10:50 | 0:10:53 | |
goes to see his priest because his mum is a deep, dark Catholic. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:57 | |
Goes to look up at this girl's bedroom that he's in love with | 0:10:58 | 0:11:02 | |
who won't shag him. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:03 | |
# The cracks between the paving stones | 0:11:03 | 0:11:06 | |
# Like rivers of flowing veins... # | 0:11:06 | 0:11:08 | |
You're going right inside the boy's head. You know where you are, | 0:11:08 | 0:11:12 | |
you've come from the peace of the sea, | 0:11:12 | 0:11:14 | |
and the idea that this is a little bit of this, | 0:11:14 | 0:11:16 | |
and a little bit of that and then, bang, you're into the action. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:19 | |
# Lives in this yellow house | 0:11:19 | 0:11:21 | |
# Yesterday she passed me by | 0:11:22 | 0:11:25 | |
# She doesn't want to know me now... # | 0:11:25 | 0:11:27 | |
When I first heard it, a friend of mine had it and they had | 0:11:29 | 0:11:32 | |
the gatefold sleeve and everything and I loved it, but it was | 0:11:32 | 0:11:35 | |
quite costly, so they recorded it for me on what was back then a C90. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:40 | |
I remember for ages thinking that he'd started on side two | 0:11:40 | 0:11:44 | |
because it begins with "I went back to the doctor." | 0:11:44 | 0:11:46 | |
It's like you've jumped right into the middle of the stream, | 0:11:46 | 0:11:49 | |
you've come right into the middle of the ride, | 0:11:49 | 0:11:51 | |
come right into the middle of a rush, and that is brilliant. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:55 | |
# Can you see the real me, mother? | 0:11:55 | 0:12:00 | |
# Can you see the real me, me, me, me, me, | 0:12:00 | 0:12:03 | |
me, me, me, me, me m-m-me....# | 0:12:03 | 0:12:08 | |
1, 2, 3, 4... | 0:12:08 | 0:12:10 | |
Pete decided that as part of the album, he'd have this lavish, | 0:12:15 | 0:12:20 | |
very generous big photo book to illustrate the story and also, | 0:12:20 | 0:12:25 | |
the other thing is I think he thought it would help explain | 0:12:25 | 0:12:27 | |
the story, particularly to the Americans who didn't understand it. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:30 | |
Ethan Russell's photos put you in that place. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:36 | |
As an American, you were able to understand | 0:12:36 | 0:12:40 | |
because you were able to see it, you were able to see his room, | 0:12:40 | 0:12:43 | |
you saw the life and it told you the story better than a movie, | 0:12:43 | 0:12:48 | |
better than a video. It's all there. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:51 | |
The first cover I did for The Who was the album Who's Next, here. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:59 | |
I was back in the United States. I got a call from Pete. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:04 | |
He was pretty stressed already because he'd been | 0:13:05 | 0:13:09 | |
working on this forever and you could feel this tremendous | 0:13:09 | 0:13:12 | |
energy of him sort of wanting to birth this thing, you know. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:15 | |
So he played me the material and he told me the story. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:18 | |
And we went out to try and sort of build that world. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:24 | |
We're here in Battersea in the Patmore Estate. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:32 | |
My sister Maxine and I used to live across the road here, | 0:13:32 | 0:13:35 | |
in this block of flats here. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:37 | |
Our foster sister Jane used to live in this block of flats here | 0:13:37 | 0:13:40 | |
and the three of us used to hang out, | 0:13:40 | 0:13:41 | |
generally around on that corner block there. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:45 | |
Along here, which used to be a church hall, | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 | |
became Ramport Studios which was owned by The Who, | 0:13:48 | 0:13:51 | |
back in the early '70s. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:52 | |
This is myself here. I would have been just coming up to 15. | 0:13:56 | 0:14:01 | |
That was an original mod outfit. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:04 | |
I had my hair cut very short and cropped and black eyeliner, | 0:14:04 | 0:14:07 | |
which you can't see through the black and white picture. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:10 | |
That's me. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:11 | |
And I've got on a pencil skirt, a pinstripe pencil skirt, | 0:14:11 | 0:14:17 | |
Hush Puppy shoes and a navy blue twinset, | 0:14:17 | 0:14:22 | |
little jumper underneath, a cardigan and like Julie, | 0:14:22 | 0:14:26 | |
my hair cut very short, mod-style haircut. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:30 | |
The girls came up, too young to go in the pub | 0:14:30 | 0:14:34 | |
but they knew that I was looking for someone to play Jimmy. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:39 | |
Chad was one of the local guys that lived near the pub. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:45 | |
We thought he had the look for the main character of Quadrophenia | 0:14:45 | 0:14:48 | |
so we introduced him to Georgiana. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:50 | |
I saw the attitude. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:52 | |
I saw the class and the attitude and the sort of, you know... | 0:14:52 | 0:14:57 | |
..his wheels were spinning a bit, you know. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:00 | |
And he was the real thing. He had love-hate tattooed on his hands. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:05 | |
Pretty early on in life for that, you know. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:08 | |
He was often in bed. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:10 | |
They would have to go and get him up at the flats, I remember that. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:13 | |
Because he'd had too much to drink, or maybe drugs, | 0:15:13 | 0:15:16 | |
I don't know what, I won't swear that either, | 0:15:16 | 0:15:18 | |
but he was often not on location when he was supposed to be. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:21 | |
About two thirds through the shoot Chad came up to me and says, | 0:15:22 | 0:15:25 | |
"I've got to go to court." | 0:15:25 | 0:15:27 | |
I said what have you got to go to court for? He said, "I stole a bus." | 0:15:27 | 0:15:30 | |
And I said, "You stole a bus?" And he said "Yes, I stole a bus." | 0:15:30 | 0:15:34 | |
I said, "OK." | 0:15:34 | 0:15:35 | |
He walks up to the judge and the judge says, "What did you do?" | 0:15:35 | 0:15:38 | |
He said, "I took her for a drive." I can't do the accent. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:42 | |
He said, "what are you doing now?" He says, "I'm a male model." | 0:15:42 | 0:15:45 | |
And I'm sitting in the back, and he says, "Who do you work for?" "I work for The 'Oo." | 0:15:45 | 0:15:50 | |
And the judge turns to me and says, "Is this true?" And I said, "Yes." | 0:15:51 | 0:15:55 | |
He says, "You need him?" And I said, "Yes, absolutely I need him." So he let him off. | 0:15:55 | 0:16:00 | |
Pete always had this thing about mods, even before they were mods. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:33 | |
I like to be subsumed in a gang. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:37 | |
And so I love that feeling of being safe in the mod movement. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:40 | |
I felt safer in a gang of mods than I did in the band, I can tell you that! | 0:16:40 | 0:16:45 | |
There was this hierarchical structure. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:51 | |
At the top you would have these top faces. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:53 | |
These were the mods that really looked really smart | 0:16:53 | 0:16:56 | |
and seemed to be able to afford new suits a lot. | 0:16:56 | 0:16:59 | |
There were the numbers and there was tickets. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:02 | |
The tickets were the little kids. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:03 | |
The one that I came across was Seven And Sixers, | 0:17:03 | 0:17:06 | |
and I never knew why they were called Seven And Sixers and it was cos | 0:17:06 | 0:17:10 | |
the T-shirts they wore were seven and six in Woolworths. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:14 | |
What will the well-dressed mod be wearing this Whit weekend? | 0:17:14 | 0:17:18 | |
I will be wearing white hipster slacks or blue hipster slacks | 0:17:18 | 0:17:22 | |
with either a cycling shirt, a zip here and stripes across there, | 0:17:22 | 0:17:27 | |
mainly with white ground or a blue ground. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:30 | |
Or a T-shirt with a large emblem on the front or back. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:35 | |
Roger talks about the mod movement only happening | 0:17:35 | 0:17:38 | |
because in those days, '62, '63, '64, a young man could get a job. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:43 | |
We were the first generation to have money and creative energy because | 0:17:43 | 0:17:48 | |
previous to that everybody had been slaving to pay the bloody bills | 0:17:48 | 0:17:53 | |
and living on the ration book. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:55 | |
To be a face, you had to go out to work. You couldn't be a face | 0:17:55 | 0:17:59 | |
if you're a school kid because you didn't have enough money to buy | 0:17:59 | 0:18:05 | |
the scooter, to pay for the petrol to pay for the girlfriends and the burgers and the drinks. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:10 | |
The mods were hard-working youngsters | 0:18:10 | 0:18:14 | |
and it was all about spending your money on clothes. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:18 | |
ARCHIVE: A new booming outfitting business both meets and creates | 0:18:20 | 0:18:23 | |
the mod demand for elegance in a young man. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:27 | |
This shop now has 18 branches in London | 0:18:27 | 0:18:29 | |
and a turnover of half a million a year. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:33 | |
They'd see Italian students and kids over here on holiday | 0:18:33 | 0:18:38 | |
in central London and were admiring their clothes | 0:18:38 | 0:18:42 | |
and saying, "Look at the cut on their clothes." Stuff that we didn't have. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:47 | |
I don't like red on you anyway. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:48 | |
From all these different elements emerged this sort of movement | 0:18:48 | 0:18:54 | |
with its strict rules that were never written down | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
but they seemed to understand them. | 0:18:57 | 0:18:59 | |
That's a very mod neck. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:00 | |
That rollneck's all right, a suede front, it's different. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:04 | |
-That's true, yeah. -This is great, I like this. -It's fabulous. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:07 | |
If I left a deposit for that, John, can I come back next week? | 0:19:07 | 0:19:11 | |
-Yeah, certainly. -Is that OK? | 0:19:11 | 0:19:13 | |
That's not yours, my love. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:24 | |
If you saw a teddy boy, you'd know he was a teddy boy | 0:19:24 | 0:19:27 | |
but if you saw a mod, your mods could work in an advertising agency, | 0:19:27 | 0:19:31 | |
no-one would know they were mods. They just looked like a neat kid. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:35 | |
But to other mods, they gave all the signals. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:38 | |
Maybe a slightly effeminate kid | 0:19:38 | 0:19:40 | |
and that's where I thought the real courage came. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:42 | |
They used to do their own sewing and stuff. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:45 | |
These great big guys would say, "I'll take in those trousers!" | 0:19:45 | 0:19:50 | |
Roger made drainpipes and put the zips in himself! | 0:19:50 | 0:19:55 | |
He put zips in drainpipes! | 0:19:55 | 0:19:58 | |
It was perfect because for the first time in generations | 0:19:58 | 0:20:02 | |
you dressed as you wanted to | 0:20:02 | 0:20:04 | |
and at work you probably were a shipping clerk or a filing clerk. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:09 | |
You were management material. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:11 | |
And you got, "Oh, he's a very tidy young man, | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
"he's going up the ladder, mate." | 0:20:14 | 0:20:16 | |
Mods had real strict taste rules | 0:20:16 | 0:20:18 | |
and it was difficult to know what was in, and what was out. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:22 | |
I remember people talking about the way to stand outside | 0:20:22 | 0:20:26 | |
the Scene Club, you had to stand with your hand in your pocket... | 0:20:26 | 0:20:31 | |
All these sort of ways to maintain your cool. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:34 | |
My hair was a disaster. I hated it. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:37 | |
When I looked in the mirror, | 0:20:37 | 0:20:40 | |
I saw somebody like Art Garfunkel. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:42 | |
Roger had exactly the same problem. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:45 | |
-He was constantly straightening his hair. -Dippity-do. | 0:20:45 | 0:20:50 | |
Dippity-do. He found this American gel that would straighten your hair | 0:20:50 | 0:20:53 | |
long enough to get through a gig. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:55 | |
And I think the main driving force then was fashion. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:58 | |
But then it became the music and the other things. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:02 | |
And the other thing is you've to put it in context of the time, | 0:21:02 | 0:21:04 | |
it was like people identifying with this new, modern, clean world. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:08 | |
This is Cut My Hair, it's like the first proper song on the album. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:17 | |
The album should have started with Cut My Hair because that's where the story starts. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:24 | |
On Cut My Hair you've got a... | 0:21:24 | 0:21:28 | |
This piano part, very nursery, | 0:21:28 | 0:21:31 | |
gentle piano. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:33 | |
Against which you get the story of the boy complaining about why | 0:21:35 | 0:21:41 | |
he has to fuck around with his hair basically. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:45 | |
# If I have to cut my hair | 0:21:45 | 0:21:48 | |
# I've got to move with the fashion | 0:21:48 | 0:21:51 | |
# Or be outcast. # | 0:21:51 | 0:21:53 | |
It's interesting because what it's about is a mixture of that | 0:21:53 | 0:21:58 | |
refrain when we were young | 0:21:58 | 0:22:01 | |
and the hair was long which was, "Get your hair cut!" | 0:22:01 | 0:22:04 | |
And suddenly all of that being turned on its head by the mod movement where a face | 0:22:04 | 0:22:08 | |
would turn to you and say, "Get your hair cut." | 0:22:08 | 0:22:13 | |
And you'd think, "Hold on a minute, you're only three or four | 0:22:13 | 0:22:16 | |
"years older than me, don't fucking tell me to get my haircut!" | 0:22:16 | 0:22:20 | |
# And I'm leaping along | 0:22:20 | 0:22:23 | |
# I'm dressed right for a beach fight | 0:22:23 | 0:22:27 | |
# But I just can't explain | 0:22:27 | 0:22:30 | |
# Why that uncertain feeling is still | 0:22:30 | 0:22:34 | |
# Here in my brain. # | 0:22:34 | 0:22:37 | |
If you were raised in a modern neighbourhood, you had to fit in with those people. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:42 | |
So, we sat down and had our hair cut. Which I hated. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:47 | |
It had taken me nearly a year | 0:22:47 | 0:22:50 | |
to grow my Beatle fringe down to here. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:53 | |
I was taken to this guy called Jack the barber, | 0:22:53 | 0:22:56 | |
more like Sweeney Todd! | 0:22:56 | 0:22:58 | |
I remember going back to my house with Keith Moon | 0:22:59 | 0:23:03 | |
and smashing the mirror in my room because I hated it. Horrible. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:09 | |
I kind of rebelled against it, went out and bought myself a jacket | 0:23:09 | 0:23:12 | |
and trousers and I felt OK about it. Except for my hair. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:18 | |
# Zoot suit, white jacket with side vents | 0:23:18 | 0:23:21 | |
# Five inches long. # | 0:23:21 | 0:23:24 | |
My initial reaction to it was, "It's about me." | 0:23:24 | 0:23:28 | |
The essence of Townshend's writing is that | 0:23:28 | 0:23:31 | |
he writes about the adolescent problems and they never change | 0:23:31 | 0:23:36 | |
and that's why if you take away the mod tunic, the mod uniform, | 0:23:36 | 0:23:41 | |
what you're left with is the universal adolescent problem. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:46 | |
What's happening at the very end is he's thinking, "This is shit." | 0:23:50 | 0:23:54 | |
He can't deal with it. And at the end you get this abject self-pity which Jimmy is... | 0:23:54 | 0:24:01 | |
Falls into regularly. This sense of, "I can't do this." | 0:24:01 | 0:24:04 | |
# We have the same old row again and again | 0:24:04 | 0:24:08 | |
# Why do I have to move with the times? | 0:24:11 | 0:24:15 | |
# Of kids that hardly notice I'm around | 0:24:15 | 0:24:18 | |
# I work myself to death just to fit in. # | 0:24:18 | 0:24:23 | |
So, it sets up this thing that starting at the beginning | 0:24:23 | 0:24:27 | |
of Quadrophenia that he's becoming disenchanted with | 0:24:27 | 0:24:30 | |
the burden of being a mod, of trying to fit in, | 0:24:30 | 0:24:34 | |
of having the right shoes, the right shirt. | 0:24:34 | 0:24:36 | |
He's not getting what he wants. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:39 | |
# It's all a game | 0:24:40 | 0:24:42 | |
# And inside I'm just the same | 0:24:42 | 0:24:45 | |
# My fried egg makes me sick first thing in the morning. # | 0:24:45 | 0:24:50 | |
ARCHIVE: ..A gang of nearly 1000 youths entered the Grand Hotel | 0:24:52 | 0:24:55 | |
in pursuit of two leather-clad rockers. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:59 | |
South Coast police have warned that if the fights between rival gangs | 0:24:59 | 0:25:02 | |
of mods and rockers continue strict security measures will be | 0:25:02 | 0:25:07 | |
in force at railway station both in London and on the south coast. | 0:25:07 | 0:25:11 | |
Brighton was just one of those places that was popping. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:14 | |
Say me and my friends went to a dance hall once, | 0:25:14 | 0:25:17 | |
there was a load of rockers there, they were taking the mick out of us. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:20 | |
You can't let a load of kids take the Mickey out of you, can you? | 0:25:20 | 0:25:23 | |
-So, what do you do? -Well, you have a punch-up about it. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:26 | |
-What do you fight with? -With fists! | 0:25:26 | 0:25:28 | |
The first trouble was in Clacton. | 0:25:31 | 0:25:33 | |
And afterwards I think Margate and then it was Brighton. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:37 | |
You had about 30 little mods | 0:25:37 | 0:25:41 | |
versus three big rockers. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:42 | |
They were all running up, "Come on, then!" And all this stuff. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:45 | |
We were posing and stuff like that. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:47 | |
-It's the rockers that started. They screw you. -What does screw mean? | 0:25:50 | 0:25:55 | |
You know, look you up and down and think, "That's a funny | 0:25:55 | 0:25:58 | |
"way of dressing." Think you're a poof or something like that. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:01 | |
The really cool mods hated the fact that there was this | 0:26:03 | 0:26:06 | |
violence on the beach. They hated it. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:08 | |
"Bunch of wankers! Going and fighting with rockers." | 0:26:08 | 0:26:12 | |
Ha! That kind of thing. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:14 | |
# As I was laying in a hospital bed... # | 0:26:16 | 0:26:19 | |
ARCHIVE: The beat they dance to is another difference between mods and rockers. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:28 | |
At this mod club, The Chez Don, in the East End of London, | 0:26:28 | 0:26:31 | |
the rhythm is blue and strong enough to lean against. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:34 | |
The mod girls dance with each other and no-one bothers to talk | 0:26:34 | 0:26:38 | |
since you can't hear yourself speak. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:40 | |
Rockers don't show their faces here. It would only lead to trouble. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:43 | |
This is the famous Goldhawk club. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:51 | |
I'm opening the door to the dance hall. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:55 | |
Along here and on the other side | 0:26:55 | 0:26:58 | |
was a whole bunch of settees where a lot of necking went on! | 0:26:58 | 0:27:02 | |
And there was kissing and French kissing and tongues and stuff. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:07 | |
-# Got a feeling inside -Can't explain | 0:27:17 | 0:27:21 | |
-# It's a certain kind -Can't explain | 0:27:21 | 0:27:24 | |
-# I feel hot and cold -Can't explain | 0:27:24 | 0:27:27 | |
-# Yeah, down in my soul, yeah -Can't explain... # | 0:27:27 | 0:27:31 | |
We'd just done Ready Steady Go, they had been there in the audience, | 0:27:31 | 0:27:35 | |
we went to the Goldhawk Club and played I Can't Explain, | 0:27:35 | 0:27:38 | |
we played it again and again and again. | 0:27:38 | 0:27:41 | |
# The things you've said, well, maybe they're true... # | 0:27:41 | 0:27:45 | |
And I thought, "God Almighty! What's going on?" | 0:27:45 | 0:27:48 | |
"The Who are playing probably my favourite song of all time." | 0:27:48 | 0:27:52 | |
They've played I Can't Explain three times, what's going on? | 0:27:52 | 0:27:57 | |
# When I feel blue | 0:27:57 | 0:27:59 | |
-# But I can't explain -Can't explain | 0:27:59 | 0:28:02 | |
"Play it again, play it again!" Dah, da-da, dah-da-da! | 0:28:02 | 0:28:05 | |
You know, fucking glorious night at the Goldhawk Club that their boys | 0:28:05 | 0:28:10 | |
had gone on Ready Steady Go which was the big mod programme of the day. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:14 | |
I sort of elected myself as some kind of delegate and I came here, | 0:28:16 | 0:28:22 | |
I knocked on this door, this very door we're looking at. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:27 | |
Irish Jack walks forward and says "There's something we want to tell you." | 0:28:27 | 0:28:31 | |
I said, "Look, this song is exactly what we're trying to say." | 0:28:31 | 0:28:36 | |
You've said it for us. | 0:28:36 | 0:28:37 | |
I can't explain because this is what mods were about. | 0:28:37 | 0:28:40 | |
They couldn't explain. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:42 | |
None of us could explain, we didn't have the articulation. | 0:28:42 | 0:28:45 | |
So, I said to him quite patronising, "Jack, | 0:28:45 | 0:28:48 | |
"you want to be to write more songs for you about the fact you | 0:28:48 | 0:28:52 | |
"can't explain what it is you want me to explain | 0:28:52 | 0:28:55 | |
"and I can't explain what it is you want to explain?" | 0:28:55 | 0:28:57 | |
Jack immediately goes, "That's it!" | 0:28:57 | 0:28:59 | |
So, in words, Pete Townshend became the song laureate of the mods | 0:28:59 | 0:29:03 | |
in Shepherd's Bush, Hammersmith, Acton, Ealing. | 0:29:03 | 0:29:07 | |
# You declared you'd be three inches taller | 0:29:34 | 0:29:37 | |
# You only became what we made you. # | 0:29:37 | 0:29:40 | |
There's a fabulous postcard, we're about 18/19, | 0:29:40 | 0:29:43 | |
we look like perfect little girly mods. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:46 | |
That's the band that Jimmy looked at and went, "That's me!" | 0:29:46 | 0:29:52 | |
Then he goes into that band and finds that these four people, | 0:29:52 | 0:29:57 | |
each one of them is a deeply eccentric and complex and difficult | 0:29:57 | 0:30:00 | |
and fucked up individual and they're each in their own way. | 0:30:00 | 0:30:03 | |
# I'm the guy in the sky | 0:30:03 | 0:30:05 | |
# Flying high, flashing eyes | 0:30:05 | 0:30:07 | |
# No surprise I told lies | 0:30:07 | 0:30:09 | |
# I'm the punk in the gutter. # | 0:30:09 | 0:30:12 | |
All of those youth movements are built on false idols. | 0:30:12 | 0:30:15 | |
They're all built on the idea of loving something and never meet your idols. | 0:30:15 | 0:30:19 | |
There's that crushing sense of disappointment. | 0:30:19 | 0:30:22 | |
They're not the people you think they are. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:25 | |
This was the only time The Who were in the entire book. | 0:30:34 | 0:30:37 | |
We shot about 4am in the morning so we wouldn't have any traffic | 0:30:37 | 0:30:41 | |
and it was the Hammersmith Odeon, that was the idea. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:45 | |
And in the story it's where Jimmy sees The Who, | 0:30:45 | 0:30:47 | |
otherwise they don't intersect in the story. | 0:30:47 | 0:30:50 | |
He's feeling inferior, his hero's scooter is bust | 0:30:50 | 0:30:55 | |
and these guys have a limo. | 0:30:55 | 0:30:57 | |
# I have to be careful not to preach | 0:30:57 | 0:31:01 | |
# I can't pretend that I can teach | 0:31:01 | 0:31:04 | |
# And yet I've lived your future out | 0:31:04 | 0:31:07 | |
# By pounding stages like a clown | 0:31:07 | 0:31:12 | |
# And on the dance floor broken glass | 0:31:12 | 0:31:16 | |
# And bloody faces slowly pass | 0:31:16 | 0:31:20 | |
# The numbered seats in empty rows | 0:31:20 | 0:31:24 | |
# It all belongs to me you know. # | 0:31:24 | 0:31:29 | |
OK! | 0:31:31 | 0:31:34 | |
There's this idea of The Who, who had these kind of mod roots, | 0:31:34 | 0:31:39 | |
and they later became a great big bloated rock band. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:42 | |
The distance between them being almost '70s rock stars | 0:31:42 | 0:31:46 | |
and the '60s roots of what they were is played up in this photograph. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:51 | |
You get this image of Jimmy, the mod, from the 1960s, clearly, | 0:31:51 | 0:31:57 | |
down on one knee and out here's the band coming out of Hammersmith Odeon | 0:31:57 | 0:32:00 | |
but the band appear to be like a '70s rock band and the interesting | 0:32:00 | 0:32:05 | |
thing is it's the distance between him and them, that's the time shift. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:10 | |
This is when the album is recorded, | 0:32:10 | 0:32:12 | |
this is the distance between these two things. | 0:32:12 | 0:32:15 | |
It's important. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:17 | |
# I'm the guy in the sky | 0:32:17 | 0:32:19 | |
# Flying high, flashing eyes | 0:32:19 | 0:32:21 | |
# No surprise I told lies | 0:32:21 | 0:32:23 | |
# I'm the punk in the gutter. # | 0:32:23 | 0:32:25 | |
He just happens to pass his ex-heroes, The Who, | 0:32:25 | 0:32:30 | |
and says to them, "You bunch of... You fucking let me down." That's all it's about. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:36 | |
This one song, Punk And The Godfather, that was it. | 0:32:36 | 0:32:41 | |
# I don't mind | 0:32:41 | 0:32:44 | |
# Other guys dancing with my girl | 0:32:44 | 0:32:48 | |
# That's fine | 0:32:48 | 0:32:50 | |
# I know them all pretty well... # | 0:32:50 | 0:32:53 | |
# Is it me for a moment? # | 0:32:53 | 0:32:56 | |
Records traditionally have tracks with gaps in between. | 0:33:02 | 0:33:06 | |
What Quadrophenia has is a soundscape | 0:33:06 | 0:33:09 | |
and the thing it's closest to is it's a film soundtrack. | 0:33:09 | 0:33:14 | |
So, between the tracks you get the sound of Jimmy's life, losing his bike, | 0:33:14 | 0:33:19 | |
losing his dirty job, | 0:33:19 | 0:33:21 | |
living rough on the streets alone. | 0:33:21 | 0:33:24 | |
The sound of the train in the station, the whistle. | 0:33:26 | 0:33:31 | |
The boiling kettle and a fried egg. | 0:33:31 | 0:33:35 | |
In a sense, it's using sound as music. | 0:33:35 | 0:33:39 | |
For sea and sand, for example, I literally walked down a beach | 0:33:39 | 0:33:43 | |
with a stereo mic singing sea and sand. | 0:33:43 | 0:33:46 | |
# Here by the sea and sand. # | 0:33:46 | 0:33:49 | |
But Quadrophenia had a sound, it was one sound from start to finish, | 0:33:57 | 0:34:01 | |
and that sound was the sound of the backing track. | 0:34:01 | 0:34:03 | |
TRAIN RUSHES PAST | 0:34:03 | 0:34:06 | |
What had happened was the Who couldn't find a studio that they liked, | 0:34:12 | 0:34:15 | |
so they said, "Let's buy a place and build our own," | 0:34:15 | 0:34:17 | |
because they had some money then, | 0:34:17 | 0:34:19 | |
so they found this church in Battersea, in Thessaly Road, Battersea. | 0:34:19 | 0:34:22 | |
Thessaly Road was really a storage facility. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:26 | |
Pete Townshend came down one day to see where all his guitars were. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:31 | |
Blimey. | 0:34:32 | 0:34:35 | |
I'm surprised how spacious it is. | 0:34:35 | 0:34:38 | |
He looked around, he gave a click of his fingers, and he said, | 0:34:41 | 0:34:45 | |
"This has got good resonance." | 0:34:45 | 0:34:48 | |
It had, you know, a bright... | 0:34:48 | 0:34:51 | |
It's still got quite a bright sound in here. | 0:34:51 | 0:34:54 | |
But it was brighter than this, it was quite a bright... | 0:34:54 | 0:34:57 | |
And that was unusual at the time. | 0:34:57 | 0:34:59 | |
Most studios in London were a little bit deader than this one. | 0:34:59 | 0:35:03 | |
He said, "This would make a bloody good studio." | 0:35:04 | 0:35:08 | |
So, I goes, "Right, turn it into a studio." | 0:35:08 | 0:35:10 | |
There's a window, you can see, here, | 0:35:10 | 0:35:14 | |
just there, which would have allowed you to see from this room... | 0:35:14 | 0:35:17 | |
If you are sitting down, you could see into the control room, | 0:35:17 | 0:35:21 | |
which would have been there, where the doctor's waiting room is. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:25 | |
The main intention was that the control room should be quadraphonic. | 0:35:25 | 0:35:29 | |
There were no rooms in the UK, or in America at the time, | 0:35:29 | 0:35:34 | |
that had four speakers, one in each corner. There just weren't any. | 0:35:34 | 0:35:37 | |
This is an acoustic ceiling, designed... | 0:35:37 | 0:35:40 | |
They're always designed like this, with this dish, | 0:35:40 | 0:35:43 | |
and you can see that that would have been one of the plinths | 0:35:43 | 0:35:46 | |
on which we hung one of the quadraphonic speakers, | 0:35:46 | 0:35:49 | |
another one there, another one there. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:51 | |
You can see that the room is designed in a quadraphonic shape. | 0:35:51 | 0:35:55 | |
The mixing desk would've been here, tape machines there. | 0:35:55 | 0:35:59 | |
I had the idea to do something in quadraphonic | 0:36:07 | 0:36:10 | |
before I was certain about the story of Quadrophenia. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:13 | |
And the band that were doing the most experimentation with it | 0:36:15 | 0:36:19 | |
were Pink Floyd, and they'd done a couple of shows where | 0:36:19 | 0:36:22 | |
they'd introduced quadraphonic sound into their live shows. | 0:36:22 | 0:36:25 | |
# Money... Dum, dum, dum, dum, tchk... # | 0:36:25 | 0:36:28 | |
would come out in the back right, this great big chink, | 0:36:28 | 0:36:31 | |
then it would come out there, and then it goes round and round and round. It was very exciting. | 0:36:31 | 0:36:35 | |
So, we had a test unit sent over, and Pete hated it. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:43 | |
The separation wasn't... It was like a big mono. | 0:36:43 | 0:36:46 | |
And Pete said, "You know, I am not going to make | 0:36:46 | 0:36:50 | |
"a quadraphonic album that sounds worse than the stereo." | 0:36:50 | 0:36:54 | |
These days, on a computer, you can do this kind of thing in 15 seconds. | 0:36:55 | 0:36:59 | |
Back then, it was much harder. | 0:36:59 | 0:37:02 | |
We actually never mixed anything in quadraphonic. | 0:37:03 | 0:37:06 | |
Quadrophenia is strictly a stereo album. | 0:37:06 | 0:37:09 | |
At the same time as trying to do that, everything was up in the air. | 0:37:09 | 0:37:13 | |
They were building the studio and trying to record this thing | 0:37:13 | 0:37:16 | |
in the studio, while there were builders in there. | 0:37:16 | 0:37:18 | |
There's people under the desk, undoing things. | 0:37:18 | 0:37:21 | |
He says, "Hold on a minute, another take," | 0:37:21 | 0:37:24 | |
and then they start... It was utter chaos. | 0:37:24 | 0:37:26 | |
What was different about our studio to everybody else's, | 0:37:26 | 0:37:29 | |
that we had the bar IN the fucking studio. | 0:37:29 | 0:37:32 | |
You know, you'd kind of go, "Na, na, na, nee, na," | 0:37:32 | 0:37:35 | |
and then pour yourself a pint of beer, | 0:37:35 | 0:37:37 | |
or a pint of brandy, whatever it was, right there. | 0:37:37 | 0:37:39 | |
You didn't have to reach out very far. | 0:37:39 | 0:37:41 | |
The average Who session, not for Roger, but for John, Keith and I, | 0:37:41 | 0:37:46 | |
would start, we'd roll up, it would be two o'clock. | 0:37:46 | 0:37:49 | |
By four o'clock, we would have had enough brandy | 0:37:49 | 0:37:52 | |
to start fiddling around. We would be telling stories. | 0:37:52 | 0:37:57 | |
Roger hated all that stuff, he just thought it was time-wasting. | 0:37:57 | 0:38:00 | |
We were building round the making of Quadrophenia, | 0:38:02 | 0:38:04 | |
and we didn't know our arse from our elbow. | 0:38:04 | 0:38:07 | |
We didn't know what we were doing. | 0:38:07 | 0:38:08 | |
When the desk got put in, Pete said, "Let's hear what it sounds like," | 0:38:08 | 0:38:13 | |
and all of us in the control room, | 0:38:13 | 0:38:15 | |
our ears and noses started to bleed. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:17 | |
I have a ruptured eardrum to this day, because of it. | 0:38:17 | 0:38:20 | |
We measured it. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:22 | |
It was louder than standing by the four engines of Concorde at full throttle. | 0:38:22 | 0:38:28 | |
It was 140 decibels, and one guitar blast... | 0:38:29 | 0:38:34 | |
..just projectile bleeding! | 0:38:35 | 0:38:37 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:38:37 | 0:38:39 | |
As well as the studio falling apart, | 0:38:41 | 0:38:44 | |
Townshend was in danger of losing his long-term creative ally and producer. | 0:38:44 | 0:38:50 | |
By the start of Quadrophenia, Townshend was still | 0:38:50 | 0:38:52 | |
under the illusion that Kit Lambert was going to be around to help him. | 0:38:52 | 0:38:57 | |
Kit Lambert and Chris Stone, their co-managers, | 0:38:57 | 0:39:00 | |
got into heroin and stuff. | 0:39:00 | 0:39:01 | |
So, they were kind of not looking after business, | 0:39:01 | 0:39:05 | |
or so Roger thought, because Roger found out that all the money | 0:39:05 | 0:39:09 | |
hadn't been accounted for, and there was some money missing. | 0:39:09 | 0:39:12 | |
That was a really sad period, actually. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:14 | |
Kit wanted to be THE producer, as such. | 0:39:14 | 0:39:17 | |
Kit Lambert, who had supposed to have been co-producing with me, | 0:39:17 | 0:39:20 | |
had stopped coming. | 0:39:20 | 0:39:23 | |
I took him out, and in the end I got so angry with Kit | 0:39:23 | 0:39:27 | |
over his behaviour, that I started to threaten him physically, | 0:39:27 | 0:39:30 | |
and funnily enough, Roger came out, | 0:39:30 | 0:39:33 | |
and calmed me down, and got Kit Lambert away, | 0:39:33 | 0:39:37 | |
and then we never really worked together again. | 0:39:37 | 0:39:40 | |
And daddy was long gone. Townshend was on his own. | 0:39:45 | 0:39:48 | |
It was pretty difficult, I didn't realise the extent of their drug use. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:55 | |
And I didn't realise | 0:39:56 | 0:39:58 | |
just how much destructive behaviour was going on. | 0:39:58 | 0:40:03 | |
And I guess that Pete felt incredible pressure. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:07 | |
The local community were really good to us. | 0:40:18 | 0:40:21 | |
They loved having the Who there, | 0:40:21 | 0:40:23 | |
and that was in the days when the power station was working. | 0:40:23 | 0:40:26 | |
You know, we had kids from the estate used to come in | 0:40:26 | 0:40:30 | |
and sit down in the front, sometimes. | 0:40:30 | 0:40:32 | |
5.15 was one of the songs that they let us listen to, | 0:40:34 | 0:40:37 | |
which was exciting. | 0:40:37 | 0:40:38 | |
Roger would say things like, "Girls, would you buy this song?" We would say yes or no. | 0:40:38 | 0:40:42 | |
"Do you think it would get to number one?" | 0:40:42 | 0:40:45 | |
The band now that haven't had a single out for two years. | 0:40:45 | 0:40:47 | |
They've taken a track off their forthcoming LP, | 0:40:47 | 0:40:50 | |
Quadrophenia, I think it's called, | 0:40:50 | 0:40:52 | |
and it's 5.15, and it's The Who! | 0:40:52 | 0:40:54 | |
The thing about 5.15 was that it was a sound check riff. | 0:41:01 | 0:41:05 | |
We were just getting the sound together, | 0:41:05 | 0:41:07 | |
and then we moved on to another song, but we were just riffing away. | 0:41:07 | 0:41:10 | |
# Why should I care? | 0:41:10 | 0:41:14 | |
# Why should I care...? # | 0:41:14 | 0:41:17 | |
This song is built around this riff coming up. | 0:41:23 | 0:41:26 | |
GUITAR MUSIC PLAYS | 0:41:26 | 0:41:29 | |
And then the horns complement that. | 0:41:33 | 0:41:36 | |
If I go back and play you what John plays, | 0:41:42 | 0:41:45 | |
you can hear that he plays an emulation of the guitar. | 0:41:45 | 0:41:48 | |
HORNS ECHO GUITAR CHORDS | 0:41:48 | 0:41:51 | |
HE SINGS ALONG | 0:41:52 | 0:41:54 | |
He's playing my guitar part for me... | 0:41:56 | 0:41:58 | |
..With the droning, which I always had in the background. | 0:42:00 | 0:42:03 | |
# Girls of fifteen | 0:42:03 | 0:42:05 | |
# Sexually knowing | 0:42:05 | 0:42:07 | |
# The ushers are sniffing | 0:42:07 | 0:42:09 | |
# Eau de Cologne-ing... # | 0:42:09 | 0:42:11 | |
And the ushers are sniffing, eau de Cologne-ing, | 0:42:11 | 0:42:14 | |
was a reference to the young girls at the Beatles concert in Blackpool. | 0:42:14 | 0:42:18 | |
The whole of Blackpool... this Blackpool theatre | 0:42:18 | 0:42:21 | |
smelt of urine. I mean, it was just beyond belief. | 0:42:21 | 0:42:25 | |
Every single girl in the audience must have pissed themselves | 0:42:25 | 0:42:28 | |
in excitement, and they were sprinkling eau de Cologne | 0:42:28 | 0:42:31 | |
on all the seats, because it was apparently what you do, | 0:42:31 | 0:42:34 | |
was you sprinkle eau de Cologne. | 0:42:34 | 0:42:36 | |
# Girls of fifteen | 0:42:36 | 0:42:37 | |
# Sexually knowing | 0:42:37 | 0:42:39 | |
# The ushers are sniffing | 0:42:39 | 0:42:41 | |
# Eau de Cologne-ing | 0:42:41 | 0:42:43 | |
# The seats are seductive | 0:42:43 | 0:42:45 | |
# Celibate sitting | 0:42:45 | 0:42:47 | |
# Pretty girls digging | 0:42:47 | 0:42:49 | |
# Prettier women | 0:42:49 | 0:42:51 | |
# Magically bored | 0:42:51 | 0:42:53 | |
# On a quiet street corner | 0:42:53 | 0:42:55 | |
# Free frustration | 0:42:55 | 0:42:57 | |
# In our minds and our toes | 0:42:57 | 0:42:59 | |
# Quiet storm water | 0:42:59 | 0:43:01 | |
# M-M-My generation | 0:43:01 | 0:43:02 | |
# Uppers and downers | 0:43:02 | 0:43:04 | |
# Either way, blood flows... # | 0:43:04 | 0:43:08 | |
Jimmy's fallen out of love with his idols, | 0:43:08 | 0:43:10 | |
he's been thrown out of his home. | 0:43:10 | 0:43:12 | |
The scooter's been crashed. | 0:43:12 | 0:43:14 | |
Right, now what you do? This is the going off into the wilderness, | 0:43:14 | 0:43:17 | |
cos actually what he's doing, he's going off in search of Xanadu. | 0:43:17 | 0:43:20 | |
# ..Inside, outside | 0:43:22 | 0:43:24 | |
# Leave me alone... # | 0:43:24 | 0:43:26 | |
'He's going back to find the thing that makes sense to him, | 0:43:26 | 0:43:29 | |
'you know, being on the beach, being down in Brighton, | 0:43:29 | 0:43:32 | |
'being part of the whole mod culture thing.' | 0:43:32 | 0:43:34 | |
# ..Out of my brain on the 5.15... # | 0:43:34 | 0:43:38 | |
'And he's going off in search of something | 0:43:38 | 0:43:41 | |
'that he already knows is gone. | 0:43:41 | 0:43:43 | |
'That, I think, is why that song is so powerful, | 0:43:43 | 0:43:46 | |
'because it's the sense that something has already been lost.' | 0:43:46 | 0:43:50 | |
He goes back to Brighton, | 0:44:32 | 0:44:33 | |
but there's that lovely idea that Townshend captures, | 0:44:33 | 0:44:36 | |
a very English idea of going to a seaside town after the fair's left. You're off season. | 0:44:36 | 0:44:40 | |
But, actually, there's a strange beauty in it, | 0:44:42 | 0:44:44 | |
and the beauty is that he feels calm by the sea and the sand, | 0:44:44 | 0:44:47 | |
because everything else has passed away. | 0:44:47 | 0:44:50 | |
# Here by the sea and sand | 0:44:50 | 0:44:53 | |
# Nothing ever goes as planned | 0:44:54 | 0:44:56 | |
# I just couldn't face going home | 0:44:56 | 0:44:59 | |
# It was just a drag on my own... # | 0:44:59 | 0:45:03 | |
Jimmy is drawn to - and this is the reason | 0:45:03 | 0:45:06 | |
why he is not the same as everyone else - | 0:45:06 | 0:45:09 | |
is that he goes and talks to the sea. | 0:45:09 | 0:45:11 | |
The image of him looking out at something much bigger than all of this. | 0:45:11 | 0:45:15 | |
Brighton, the mod culture thing, is happening behind here, | 0:45:15 | 0:45:18 | |
on the promenade, on the pier, but actually what he's doing | 0:45:18 | 0:45:20 | |
is looking out at the vast expanse of the sea, | 0:45:20 | 0:45:22 | |
and the sea is speaking to him. | 0:45:22 | 0:45:25 | |
# Let me flow into the ocean | 0:45:28 | 0:45:32 | |
# Let me get back to the sea | 0:45:32 | 0:45:34 | |
# Let me be stormy and let me be calm | 0:45:35 | 0:45:39 | |
# Let the tide in and set me free... # | 0:45:41 | 0:45:45 | |
That was a song written about the spiritual journey. | 0:45:48 | 0:45:52 | |
# ..I want to drown... # | 0:45:52 | 0:45:54 | |
It's about, "Let me get back to the sea. | 0:45:57 | 0:46:00 | |
"Let me get back to the ocean," meaning, "Let me get back to God," | 0:46:00 | 0:46:04 | |
which is brought on by walking on the beach, by the sea. | 0:46:04 | 0:46:08 | |
There's nobody there but him, he's on his own. | 0:46:08 | 0:46:10 | |
# ..Let me flow into the ocean | 0:46:10 | 0:46:14 | |
# Let me get back to the sea | 0:46:14 | 0:46:17 | |
# Let me be stormy and let me be calm | 0:46:18 | 0:46:22 | |
# Let the tide in, rush over me | 0:46:22 | 0:46:27 | |
# You know, I want to drown, drown | 0:46:29 | 0:46:33 | |
# Drown, drown, drown | 0:46:33 | 0:46:36 | |
# I want to drown, drown | 0:46:37 | 0:46:41 | |
# Drown, drown, drown | 0:46:41 | 0:46:44 | |
# I want to drown, drown | 0:46:44 | 0:46:48 | |
# Drown, drown, drown... # | 0:46:48 | 0:46:51 | |
It's interesting that out of that calm and peace | 0:46:55 | 0:46:58 | |
comes the story's whole turning point, where Jimmy meets up | 0:46:58 | 0:47:01 | |
with this key figure from his past, | 0:47:01 | 0:47:03 | |
the leader of the mods, the Ace Face. | 0:47:03 | 0:47:05 | |
The idea is that Jimmy goes back and he finds this character, | 0:47:07 | 0:47:11 | |
the Ace Face, who he really, really idolised, | 0:47:11 | 0:47:14 | |
but in fact, the guy who was smashing in the hotel doors with him | 0:47:14 | 0:47:17 | |
just recently is now working as a bellboy. | 0:47:17 | 0:47:20 | |
# The beach is a place where a man can feel | 0:47:36 | 0:47:39 | |
# He's the only soul in the world that's real... # | 0:47:40 | 0:47:44 | |
Jimmy sees his hero in the harsh midday sun being nobody. | 0:47:44 | 0:47:51 | |
# ..Well, I see a face coming through the haze | 0:47:51 | 0:47:54 | |
# I remember him from those crazy days... # | 0:47:56 | 0:47:59 | |
And if this person, who was so exalted, who was so perfect, | 0:47:59 | 0:48:03 | |
that he idolised, is nothing, | 0:48:03 | 0:48:06 | |
then Jimmy has nothing, he is nothing. | 0:48:06 | 0:48:09 | |
# ..Riding up in front of a hundred faces | 0:48:09 | 0:48:14 | |
# I don't suppose you would remember me | 0:48:14 | 0:48:17 | |
# But I used to follow you back in '63... # | 0:48:17 | 0:48:21 | |
Jimmy's rank disillusion at the idea that the person | 0:48:22 | 0:48:26 | |
he idolised is a fucking bellboy. | 0:48:26 | 0:48:30 | |
# ..I've got a good job | 0:48:36 | 0:48:38 | |
# And I'm newly born | 0:48:38 | 0:48:40 | |
# You should see me dressed up in my uniform | 0:48:40 | 0:48:44 | |
# I work in a hotel All gilt and flash | 0:48:44 | 0:48:47 | |
# Remember the gaff where the doors we smashed? | 0:48:47 | 0:48:51 | |
# Bell boy | 0:48:51 | 0:48:53 | |
# I got to get running now... # | 0:48:53 | 0:48:55 | |
It was quite difficult working with Keith as a singer, because he acted, rather than sang. | 0:48:55 | 0:49:00 | |
# ..Carry the bloody baggage out | 0:49:00 | 0:49:02 | |
# Bell boy | 0:49:02 | 0:49:04 | |
# Always running at someone's heel... # | 0:49:04 | 0:49:07 | |
I loved the way he did that. | 0:49:07 | 0:49:08 | |
It's the kind of thing you could imagine a bellboy doing, | 0:49:11 | 0:49:14 | |
working at a posh hotel. | 0:49:14 | 0:49:15 | |
"Cor blimey," like this, with his mates, | 0:49:15 | 0:49:18 | |
and then when after a tip, it's, "Hello, sir." | 0:49:18 | 0:49:21 | |
I was uncomfortable with turning the bellboy into a comedy figure, | 0:49:23 | 0:49:27 | |
because I thought, "This is the only time that the Ace Face sings." | 0:49:27 | 0:49:31 | |
# ..Remembering when stars were in reach | 0:49:31 | 0:49:35 | |
# I wander in early to work... # | 0:49:37 | 0:49:39 | |
A couple of times, I said to him, "It's not a comedy." | 0:49:39 | 0:49:42 | |
# ..Spend my day licking boots for my perks... # | 0:49:42 | 0:49:45 | |
Whoosh! That would have gone... | 0:49:47 | 0:49:49 | |
# ..The beach is a place where a man can feel | 0:49:50 | 0:49:53 | |
# He's the only soul in the world that's real... # | 0:49:53 | 0:49:57 | |
INTERVIEWER: What was Keith like in 1973? | 0:49:58 | 0:50:01 | |
Just a little bit more drunk than he was in 1972! | 0:50:01 | 0:50:06 | |
The extraordinary thing about Keith | 0:50:10 | 0:50:12 | |
was that whatever you felt about him as a drummer, | 0:50:12 | 0:50:14 | |
and I didn't think very much of him as a drummer... | 0:50:14 | 0:50:18 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:50:18 | 0:50:20 | |
It's kind of sacrilege, isn't it? But I didn't. | 0:50:20 | 0:50:23 | |
He listened. | 0:50:23 | 0:50:25 | |
People would call him a sloppy drummer, and he never was a sloppy drummer. | 0:50:25 | 0:50:28 | |
He had an extraordinary metronome. He made the music dramatic. | 0:50:28 | 0:50:33 | |
What he wouldn't do is play, "Boom, boom, bup, ba, boom, ba." | 0:50:37 | 0:50:41 | |
He'd be, "Blrr-plplrprl! Bing, bing, bing! | 0:50:41 | 0:50:43 | |
"Bing, bing, bing! Tiddle, bing, bing! | 0:50:43 | 0:50:46 | |
"Biddle, bing, bing," you know? | 0:50:46 | 0:50:48 | |
And I'd be going, "Boom, boom, bang, bang, boom," | 0:50:48 | 0:50:51 | |
because somebody had to! | 0:50:51 | 0:50:53 | |
# ..People often change | 0:51:01 | 0:51:03 | |
# But when I look in your eyes | 0:51:03 | 0:51:04 | |
# You could learn a lot from a life like mine | 0:51:04 | 0:51:08 | |
# The secret to me | 0:51:08 | 0:51:10 | |
# It ain't flown like a flag | 0:51:10 | 0:51:12 | |
# I wear it behind this bloody little badge | 0:51:12 | 0:51:15 | |
# What says... | 0:51:15 | 0:51:16 | |
# Bell boy... # | 0:51:16 | 0:51:18 | |
He was at the top of his game in '73, '73-'74, | 0:51:18 | 0:51:21 | |
absolute top of his game. | 0:51:21 | 0:51:24 | |
He was magnificent, and funny as hell. | 0:51:24 | 0:51:27 | |
You know, I tell the funny stories about him showing up | 0:51:29 | 0:51:31 | |
and saying, "Come outside and look at my new car!" | 0:51:31 | 0:51:33 | |
We'd go out and there'd be a Rolls-Royce. | 0:51:33 | 0:51:36 | |
We'd say, "That's fabulous, Keith, great." | 0:51:36 | 0:51:38 | |
Then two hours later, we'd have somebody from Jack Barclay's - | 0:51:38 | 0:51:41 | |
"Where do I send the invoice for Keith Moon's new car? | 0:51:41 | 0:51:44 | |
"He said we've got to send it to the Who group. Is it the Who group?" | 0:51:44 | 0:51:47 | |
I said, "No, you send it to Keith Moon." | 0:51:47 | 0:51:49 | |
"No, no, no. We have to send it to the Who group." | 0:51:49 | 0:51:52 | |
"No, we're not fucking paying for it, OK? | 0:51:52 | 0:51:54 | |
"This is his car, let him pay for it." | 0:51:54 | 0:51:56 | |
"No, no, you don't understand..." | 0:51:56 | 0:51:57 | |
"No, you don't fucking understand. We're not paying for his car." | 0:51:57 | 0:52:00 | |
Ah! That's better! | 0:52:00 | 0:52:02 | |
Phil, what-what-what-what-what... | 0:52:05 | 0:52:08 | |
'I think today you'd say he had ADHD | 0:52:09 | 0:52:12 | |
'and he needed some Ritalin, or something.' | 0:52:12 | 0:52:14 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:52:16 | 0:52:19 | |
But taking cocaine and Mandrax and brandy was exacerbating it. | 0:52:19 | 0:52:24 | |
It was always a mixture with Keith. | 0:52:25 | 0:52:27 | |
You know, fun one minute and a bit frightening the next. | 0:52:27 | 0:52:32 | |
Never felt afraid OF him, but frightened for him | 0:52:32 | 0:52:35 | |
and people around him. | 0:52:35 | 0:52:37 | |
And he wasn't at his best as a human being at that time. | 0:52:37 | 0:52:43 | |
I don't think any of us were, really. | 0:52:43 | 0:52:45 | |
I shouldn't really single him out. | 0:52:45 | 0:52:47 | |
There's a credit on the inside of the sleeve which says, | 0:53:00 | 0:53:02 | |
"Quadrophenia in its entirety by Pete Townshend." | 0:53:02 | 0:53:06 | |
Townshend writes, records the entire album himself in demo form | 0:53:08 | 0:53:13 | |
and then, when he brought it to the Who, they did it again. | 0:53:13 | 0:53:16 | |
Quadrophenia was definitely like a Pete Townshend solo project. | 0:53:18 | 0:53:22 | |
It was all Townshend from start to finish, his own... | 0:53:22 | 0:53:25 | |
They probably knew nothing about it till he came and said, "Here it is." | 0:53:25 | 0:53:29 | |
So, you could see how Roger and maybe the others would feel | 0:53:29 | 0:53:33 | |
a little bit resentful, because it could be construed | 0:53:33 | 0:53:36 | |
as being used like session musicians, you know. | 0:53:36 | 0:53:39 | |
I hear it said that Pete produced the album, which in a sense he did. | 0:53:39 | 0:53:44 | |
But the one thing he never, ever produced was the vocals. | 0:53:44 | 0:53:46 | |
He's never there when I record my vocals, ever. I won't have that. | 0:53:46 | 0:53:50 | |
Roger was always tough, assertive, masculine. | 0:53:51 | 0:53:55 | |
So there was always that sense that you had to be careful what you said around him, you really did. | 0:53:55 | 0:54:00 | |
Pete's a very complicated character, | 0:54:00 | 0:54:03 | |
incredibly complicated, as you can see by the songs he writes. | 0:54:03 | 0:54:07 | |
They had an addiction to friction. | 0:54:08 | 0:54:10 | |
It's almost like they're two jigsaw pieces, | 0:54:10 | 0:54:13 | |
and when you bring them together they fit together. | 0:54:13 | 0:54:15 | |
It's an absolute love-hate... | 0:54:17 | 0:54:19 | |
Not hate, but it's a love-anger relationship. | 0:54:19 | 0:54:23 | |
And I think if you take away the love-anger, | 0:54:28 | 0:54:30 | |
you take away the creative source. | 0:54:30 | 0:54:33 | |
You take away the driving dynamic. | 0:54:33 | 0:54:36 | |
So he steals a boat, in the story, | 0:55:08 | 0:55:10 | |
and goes out to sea and almost drowns. | 0:55:10 | 0:55:13 | |
It's clearly written as, is this going to be what happens | 0:55:13 | 0:55:16 | |
to this boy whose life's kind of fallen apart? | 0:55:16 | 0:55:19 | |
Who's twice schizophrenic, pilled out, lost, he's got nothing, | 0:55:19 | 0:55:23 | |
doesn't have a girl, doesn't have a bike, | 0:55:23 | 0:55:26 | |
doesn't have anything. | 0:55:26 | 0:55:27 | |
And that's kind of what we're shooting. | 0:55:27 | 0:55:30 | |
And then he's now really adrift. | 0:55:30 | 0:55:33 | |
And then this, which I just kind of love. | 0:55:33 | 0:55:35 | |
Love Reign O'er Me. | 0:55:35 | 0:55:37 | |
# Only love... # | 0:55:48 | 0:55:51 | |
What's interesting about... | 0:55:51 | 0:55:53 | |
..the opening here is that what you hear from Roger | 0:55:55 | 0:55:58 | |
is incredible tenderness. | 0:55:58 | 0:56:01 | |
You don't hear the heartfelt bawling, | 0:56:03 | 0:56:06 | |
screaming bear that you hear later on. | 0:56:06 | 0:56:09 | |
# Only love | 0:56:10 | 0:56:12 | |
# Can make it rain | 0:56:12 | 0:56:15 | |
# The way the beach | 0:56:15 | 0:56:18 | |
# Is kissed by the sea | 0:56:18 | 0:56:20 | |
# Only love | 0:56:22 | 0:56:25 | |
# Can make it rain | 0:56:25 | 0:56:27 | |
# Like the set of lovers | 0:56:27 | 0:56:31 | |
# Laying in the fields... # | 0:56:31 | 0:56:33 | |
Then you get to this impassioned scream. | 0:56:33 | 0:56:36 | |
# ..Love! | 0:56:36 | 0:56:39 | |
# Reign o'er me... # | 0:56:40 | 0:56:43 | |
If nothing else, Love Reign O'er Me shows that Jimmy's a man. | 0:56:44 | 0:56:48 | |
# ..Love... # | 0:56:48 | 0:56:50 | |
A boy wants to be noticed at a club, | 0:56:50 | 0:56:53 | |
wants a jacket. | 0:56:53 | 0:56:55 | |
Here, at the end, Jimmy is finally becoming a man | 0:56:55 | 0:56:58 | |
and asking for things that men want. | 0:56:58 | 0:57:00 | |
# ..Reign o'er me | 0:57:00 | 0:57:02 | |
# Only love | 0:57:06 | 0:57:09 | |
# Can bring the rain... # | 0:57:09 | 0:57:10 | |
Jimmy is the hero, at last. | 0:57:10 | 0:57:12 | |
It's not about The Who, it's not about Roger, | 0:57:12 | 0:57:14 | |
it's not about Pete, not about John, not about the mods, | 0:57:14 | 0:57:17 | |
it's not about Ace Face, not about drugs, or any of that stuff. | 0:57:17 | 0:57:20 | |
It's just about Jimmy and what it is that he's finally got to, | 0:57:20 | 0:57:24 | |
is that he realises that he's been looking outside himself, | 0:57:24 | 0:57:26 | |
and what he has to do now is to try to ask the question internally, | 0:57:26 | 0:57:30 | |
and that what this song does. | 0:57:30 | 0:57:32 | |
# ..Love! | 0:57:32 | 0:57:34 | |
# Reign o'er me | 0:57:37 | 0:57:40 | |
# Reign o'er me, reign o'er me | 0:57:40 | 0:57:44 | |
# Love! | 0:57:44 | 0:57:47 | |
# Reign o'er me | 0:57:49 | 0:57:52 | |
# Reign o'er me, reign o'er me... # | 0:57:52 | 0:57:59 | |
The poignancy for me was that, as a composer, working with The Who | 0:58:09 | 0:58:14 | |
was so great because they used to give me this unbelievable licence. | 0:58:14 | 0:58:18 | |
They didn't share my spiritual beliefs - that's fine - | 0:58:18 | 0:58:21 | |
they didn't share my spiritual beliefs but they allowed me | 0:58:21 | 0:58:23 | |
to have them, and to express them through my work. | 0:58:23 | 0:58:26 | |
And when it came to a song like Love Reign O'er Me, | 0:58:26 | 0:58:28 | |
which is a spiritual prayer to nothing and everything, | 0:58:28 | 0:58:31 | |
Roger gave it his bollocks. | 0:58:31 | 0:58:34 | |
This is Roger coming in in a second. | 0:58:39 | 0:58:42 | |
'I did it as a scream from the street.' | 0:58:44 | 0:58:47 | |
I wanted it to be like the ultimate anger, the ultimate passion, | 0:58:48 | 0:58:52 | |
the ultimate orgasm, you know. | 0:58:52 | 0:58:53 | |
'I wanted it to be like every emotion we've ever had.' | 0:58:55 | 0:58:59 | |
# ..Lo-o-o-ove! | 0:58:59 | 0:59:01 | |
# Reign o'er me | 0:59:03 | 0:59:05 | |
# Reign over me, over me, over me | 0:59:05 | 0:59:09 | |
# Whoa! Love! # | 0:59:09 | 0:59:12 | |
Because then it's unconditional to the track. | 0:59:12 | 0:59:16 | |
And love should be always unconditional. | 0:59:16 | 0:59:19 | |
# O-o-o'er me... # | 0:59:19 | 0:59:23 | |
You get this sense of Roger | 0:59:27 | 0:59:29 | |
producing this deep scream from his heart, | 0:59:29 | 0:59:32 | |
from Jimmy's heart. | 0:59:32 | 0:59:33 | |
# ..Love... # | 0:59:35 | 0:59:38 | |
HE CHUCKLES | 0:59:40 | 0:59:42 | |
The end of Quadrophenia is left ambiguous. | 0:59:49 | 0:59:54 | |
The illusion of drowning and water | 0:59:54 | 0:59:57 | |
is throughout the album, and that can be death or rebirth. | 0:59:57 | 1:00:02 | |
The question of what happens to Jimmy next, | 1:00:03 | 1:00:06 | |
I really like the fact that it's in the hands of the listener. | 1:00:06 | 1:00:11 | |
We're going to go on the road again. We're doing a tour of Europe. | 1:00:27 | 1:00:31 | |
Then we do America | 1:00:31 | 1:00:33 | |
and we come back to Europe | 1:00:33 | 1:00:36 | |
and then we do America again. | 1:00:36 | 1:00:38 | |
We've got two American tours lined up. | 1:00:38 | 1:00:39 | |
The day that we finished the stereo mix, | 1:00:39 | 1:00:42 | |
our managers booked a fucking tour. | 1:00:42 | 1:00:44 | |
So I had two weeks to rehearse, to develop the stage's quadraphonic sound, | 1:00:46 | 1:00:52 | |
which was impossible. | 1:00:52 | 1:00:54 | |
We didn't have the time. So they overworked us. | 1:00:54 | 1:00:57 | |
I didn't take into account properly at that time | 1:00:58 | 1:01:01 | |
the load that Pete had, | 1:01:01 | 1:01:03 | |
what with the mixing and everything else. | 1:01:03 | 1:01:05 | |
I was trying to help them survive. | 1:01:05 | 1:01:07 | |
Speaking for myself, I was dead meat. | 1:01:09 | 1:01:11 | |
Actually completely exhausted. I'm sure Roger was exhausted too. | 1:01:11 | 1:01:15 | |
We had employed a bunch of people that were our friends | 1:01:15 | 1:01:20 | |
to film the rehearsal | 1:01:20 | 1:01:22 | |
and I think we got through to Doctor Jimmy | 1:01:22 | 1:01:27 | |
and they'd been sitting on their boxes with cameras | 1:01:27 | 1:01:31 | |
and I just said to them, "You can sit on your fucking arses all afternoon | 1:01:31 | 1:01:34 | |
"cos I'm not singing this again. | 1:01:34 | 1:01:36 | |
"I thought you were supposed to be filming this?" | 1:01:36 | 1:01:39 | |
I don't know why, but for some reason | 1:01:39 | 1:01:42 | |
this other side of Pete came over and started poking me. | 1:01:42 | 1:01:45 | |
"They do what I tell them to do!" | 1:01:45 | 1:01:48 | |
And doing this to me. | 1:01:48 | 1:01:50 | |
All the roadies jump on me and start holding my arms. | 1:01:50 | 1:01:53 | |
I started to scream at him | 1:01:53 | 1:01:55 | |
and I can't remember the details but we ended up in a physical grappling. | 1:01:55 | 1:02:00 | |
He pulled his guitar off and, as he brought it down, | 1:02:00 | 1:02:03 | |
he tried to hit me on the head with it. | 1:02:03 | 1:02:05 | |
And it glanced off my shoulder, like that. | 1:02:05 | 1:02:08 | |
Then he threw a punch and it went one way and I moved that way. | 1:02:08 | 1:02:11 | |
Then he threw the other punch, and as he was coming forward | 1:02:11 | 1:02:14 | |
with his right hand this way, I upper-cutted him. | 1:02:14 | 1:02:18 | |
And he hit me and I passed out. | 1:02:18 | 1:02:21 | |
AUDIENCE CHEERS | 1:02:21 | 1:02:24 | |
-ANNOUNCER: -Here they are...The Who! | 1:02:36 | 1:02:39 | |
At the shows, you could see they'd introduced our new work | 1:02:39 | 1:02:42 | |
and the audience were going, "Yeah", and it would start and they'd go... | 1:02:42 | 1:02:46 | |
We'd like to carry on our present act | 1:02:46 | 1:02:50 | |
with our new album, | 1:02:50 | 1:02:52 | |
or parts of it. | 1:02:52 | 1:02:55 | |
I don't know what they expected, but the audience, it was new to them. | 1:02:55 | 1:02:59 | |
'Then what started to happen is that Roger started to tell the story.' | 1:02:59 | 1:03:04 | |
This one's about his feelings when he gets down to the seaside. | 1:03:04 | 1:03:09 | |
Every time we played a song, he was stopping and saying, | 1:03:09 | 1:03:11 | |
"Now Jimmy has fucked off with his dad. | 1:03:11 | 1:03:13 | |
"He's going to go and get a job." | 1:03:13 | 1:03:14 | |
The next song is about a guy | 1:03:18 | 1:03:21 | |
who sees an old gang leader who's working as a bellhop. | 1:03:21 | 1:03:25 | |
When somebody's talking on stage, you can't hear it. | 1:03:25 | 1:03:28 | |
Half the time you're, "What did he say?" | 1:03:28 | 1:03:30 | |
So you had that confusion going on at these Quadrophenia shows. | 1:03:30 | 1:03:34 | |
So I probably gave Pete a load of problems he didn't need. | 1:03:38 | 1:03:41 | |
After that, things fell apart. | 1:03:44 | 1:03:47 | |
It was the first night of the Quadrophenia US shows | 1:03:51 | 1:03:55 | |
and Moon takes elephant tranquiliser and he starts off strong enough, | 1:03:55 | 1:04:00 | |
and a few songs in, he collapses. | 1:04:00 | 1:04:02 | |
He's out cold. | 1:04:05 | 1:04:08 | |
I think he's gone and eaten something he shouldn't have eaten. | 1:04:08 | 1:04:13 | |
It's your foreign food. | 1:04:13 | 1:04:15 | |
I'm afraid the horrible truth is, | 1:04:17 | 1:04:22 | |
that without him, we're not a group. | 1:04:22 | 1:04:25 | |
Yeah, he did that kind of thing all the time. | 1:04:26 | 1:04:29 | |
It's just that this time, the drugs were too powerful for him. | 1:04:29 | 1:04:33 | |
He's still a bit sort of dodgy. | 1:04:41 | 1:04:44 | |
But he'll be all right. | 1:04:46 | 1:04:48 | |
He is dragged off stage and they take a break | 1:04:59 | 1:05:01 | |
and they come back and he makes it through | 1:05:01 | 1:05:04 | |
and then by the end of Won't Get Fooled Again, he's dead. | 1:05:04 | 1:05:08 | |
He is lifeless, he's Jell-O. | 1:05:08 | 1:05:10 | |
Can anybody play the drums? | 1:05:22 | 1:05:24 | |
And then they had this fan, Scott Halpin, come play drums with them. | 1:05:26 | 1:05:30 | |
Scott! | 1:05:30 | 1:05:32 | |
And that's how they kicked off what already was a difficult tour. | 1:05:32 | 1:05:35 | |
We managed to kind of soldier on. We could put a brave face on it. | 1:05:39 | 1:05:44 | |
I could tell funny stories about it | 1:05:44 | 1:05:46 | |
and we could all have a good laugh, but it was tragic. | 1:05:46 | 1:05:50 | |
It was really tragic, cos Keith was being a fool. | 1:05:50 | 1:05:54 | |
We got good reviews and the album sold well, | 1:06:04 | 1:06:06 | |
but when we came back to Europe the following year, | 1:06:06 | 1:06:09 | |
we weren't even playing it. | 1:06:09 | 1:06:10 | |
Went back to playing Tommy. | 1:06:10 | 1:06:13 | |
And what's interesting about this album is it kind of worked. | 1:06:16 | 1:06:20 | |
We never really ever made a truly great album again. | 1:06:20 | 1:06:24 | |
You pulled this letter out, it's a painful letter, | 1:06:36 | 1:06:39 | |
but this is the man I was at a point. | 1:06:39 | 1:06:43 | |
Ted Oldman was our lawyer at the time | 1:06:43 | 1:06:47 | |
and in this last week of recording here I think I just thought, | 1:06:47 | 1:06:53 | |
"I've had it with this. | 1:06:53 | 1:06:55 | |
"This is not going to happen. We're not going to get an album. | 1:06:55 | 1:06:57 | |
"We're screwed in some way." | 1:07:00 | 1:07:01 | |
I probably had a bad day, but it says, | 1:07:01 | 1:07:04 | |
"Dear Ted, I'm writing to you in strictest confidence to ask advice | 1:07:04 | 1:07:07 | |
"and to seek guidance on a matter I feel only you can help me with. | 1:07:07 | 1:07:12 | |
"I've spoken to my wife and very intimate friends about this, | 1:07:12 | 1:07:15 | |
"but I found the making of this current record a great strain. | 1:07:15 | 1:07:18 | |
"The studio building problems, the writing problems | 1:07:18 | 1:07:21 | |
"and, of course, Kit and Keith have been aggravations | 1:07:21 | 1:07:24 | |
"to an already difficult time. | 1:07:24 | 1:07:25 | |
"I've been building up to this for many years now | 1:07:25 | 1:07:28 | |
"and I feel that, as of now, | 1:07:28 | 1:07:30 | |
"the record we are making and the current tours we are undertaking | 1:07:30 | 1:07:33 | |
"will be the last I want to be involved with as The Who as a group. | 1:07:33 | 1:07:37 | |
"I'm losing any impetus either to write for The Who as a vehicle | 1:07:37 | 1:07:40 | |
"or play with its members as a musician." | 1:07:40 | 1:07:42 | |
You know we were done. We were definitely done. | 1:07:42 | 1:07:44 | |
And this letter is indicative of the fact that | 1:07:44 | 1:07:48 | |
I would have gone home in that week and taken my wife aside | 1:07:48 | 1:07:52 | |
and said, "You know, we haven't had a holiday for fucking two years. | 1:07:52 | 1:07:55 | |
"I've hardly seen you. | 1:07:55 | 1:07:57 | |
"We probably haven't made love for six weeks, six months, | 1:07:57 | 1:08:00 | |
"God knows what. | 1:08:00 | 1:08:02 | |
"I probably missed you at Christmas. I probably missed our anniversary. | 1:08:02 | 1:08:05 | |
"I'm sorry. It was all a fucking complete waste of time." | 1:08:05 | 1:08:09 | |
That's probably what I would have said to her. | 1:08:09 | 1:08:11 | |
And she probably would have said to me, | 1:08:11 | 1:08:12 | |
"Well, if that's how you feel you should stop, sweetheart." | 1:08:12 | 1:08:15 | |
And I write this letter and I didn't send it. | 1:08:15 | 1:08:18 | |
MUSIC: "Drowned" by The Who | 1:08:36 | 1:08:39 | |
# There are men high up there fishing | 1:08:43 | 1:08:47 | |
# Haven't seen quite enough of the world | 1:08:47 | 1:08:50 | |
# I ain't seen a sign of my hero | 1:08:50 | 1:08:54 | |
# And I'm still diving down for pearls | 1:08:54 | 1:08:59 | |
# Let me flow into the ocean | 1:08:59 | 1:09:02 | |
# Let me get back to the sea | 1:09:02 | 1:09:06 | |
# Let me be stormy and let me be calm | 1:09:06 | 1:09:08 | |
# Let the tide in and set me free. # | 1:09:08 | 1:09:13 |