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In the music business, | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
if you're not a self-promoting megalomaniac, you don't fit in. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:09 | |
For 35 years, Richard Thompson has been one of our best-kept secrets, | 0:00:09 | 0:00:15 | |
a teenage founder of Fairport Convention in England's hippy era. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:20 | |
He was the guy who kicked folk music's ass. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:23 | |
In the late '60s, Richard and Fairport invented folk rock. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:28 | |
# I'm never gonna run away... # | 0:00:28 | 0:00:31 | |
As a duo with his wife, Linda, Richard confronted the early '70s with songs of spiritual yearning. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:38 | |
It's a very spiritual thing to play music, at any level. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:42 | |
# Shoot out the lights... # | 0:00:43 | 0:00:46 | |
Since parting with Linda in 1981, Richard has pursued an acclaimed solo career from California. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:54 | |
He leads a very interesting path through this show-business world, | 0:00:54 | 0:01:00 | |
manoeuvring his ship independent of that slag heap most of us are in! | 0:01:00 | 0:01:05 | |
# It's a Vincent Black Lightning, 1952... # | 0:01:05 | 0:01:09 | |
I won't call him the English Bob Dylan - more vice versa. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:14 | |
I was a shy kid. To get on a stage, expressing myself was a revelation. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:19 | |
Hello! I'm over here! | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
He's one of the most engaging personas in music. He doesn't seem impressed with himself on stage, | 0:01:22 | 0:01:28 | |
which is so un-rock'n'roll. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:31 | |
This is a real suburb - a classic American suburb. | 0:01:48 | 0:01:52 | |
This was a middle-income area, but it's going up, up, up, | 0:01:52 | 0:01:57 | |
with people like me moving in! | 0:01:57 | 0:02:00 | |
You feel like saying, "God, look at those hideous windows!" | 0:02:00 | 0:02:04 | |
"She's left her laundry out again!" | 0:02:04 | 0:02:07 | |
Oh, a hideous new fence! It's the same as ours! | 0:02:07 | 0:02:11 | |
It's a love-hate thing with the suburbs. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:15 | |
The suburbs I grew up in were very, very dull. But it was a very dull time. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:21 | |
# Sometimes I long for the solitary life | 0:02:21 | 0:02:26 | |
# Parents long gone No kids, no wife | 0:02:26 | 0:02:29 | |
# Sister somewhere in Australia | 0:02:29 | 0:02:32 | |
# Never did keep in touch | 0:02:32 | 0:02:34 | |
# Sex no more than a how-d'you-do | 0:02:37 | 0:02:41 | |
# And a copy of Titbits in the loo | 0:02:41 | 0:02:45 | |
# At work considered a bit of a failure Don't seem to try too much | 0:02:45 | 0:02:51 | |
# A solitary life... # | 0:02:51 | 0:02:54 | |
He was my slightly younger brother. Richard was shy. | 0:02:54 | 0:03:00 | |
He played for hours with soldiers, all his armies out on the floor. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:05 | |
He was... He liked trainspotting. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:09 | |
I was just very shy as a kid. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:12 | |
I was really kind of a social cripple, | 0:03:12 | 0:03:16 | |
and I think my music was an escape. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:18 | |
# ..Railway, soldiers in lead | 0:03:18 | 0:03:23 | |
# Join the suburban boffins of Britain Experts on trivial things... # | 0:03:23 | 0:03:28 | |
Yeah, my...my father's Scottish, and, um... | 0:03:28 | 0:03:32 | |
and culturally our house was quite Scottish - lots of Scottish music. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:38 | |
I love pipe music, that kind of... | 0:03:38 | 0:03:40 | |
Our father was very strict - | 0:03:46 | 0:03:49 | |
authoritarian, Scottish, a Scotland Yard detective... | 0:03:49 | 0:03:54 | |
..who we were rather afraid of. | 0:03:56 | 0:03:58 | |
I used to stutter as a child, and I still do, in stressful situations - | 0:03:58 | 0:04:03 | |
talking to the Inland Revenue or something! | 0:04:03 | 0:04:08 | |
The stuttering Richard, I think, | 0:04:08 | 0:04:11 | |
was a reaction to the strictness and, you know, this dominant father. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:16 | |
My father would tell him, "Stop stuttering!" which makes it worse. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:21 | |
And of course singing - you don't stutter when you sing. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:26 | |
# I said, kidzz | 0:04:26 | 0:04:28 | |
# Do you do what your teacher tells you? | 0:04:28 | 0:04:32 | |
# Do you do what your momma say? | 0:04:32 | 0:04:35 | |
# Are you goody-two-shoes? I like you that way Like you that way... # | 0:04:35 | 0:04:42 | |
The first rock'n'roll I heard was probably Bill Haley. My sister had good records - Buddy Holly, | 0:04:42 | 0:04:49 | |
Jerry Lee Lewis records, Everly Brothers records. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:53 | |
I do remember it having an impact on my brain. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:57 | |
# Don't make trouble Thinking for yourself | 0:04:57 | 0:05:02 | |
# Don't make trouble Thinking for yourself... # | 0:05:02 | 0:05:05 | |
After World War II, the generation that fought the war really wanted to settle down to a safe life. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:12 | |
For kids, it was a bit stifling. The generation really took to rebellious music, rock'n'roll. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:18 | |
It makes you wanna dance and slash cinema seats! | 0:05:18 | 0:05:23 | |
# Kidzz We scoop you like guacamole | 0:05:23 | 0:05:28 | |
# We suck out your brains like toothpaste | 0:05:28 | 0:05:32 | |
# We gobble you down like teenage casserole, teenage casserole... # | 0:05:32 | 0:05:37 | |
I've still got a quiff! You can't quite see it. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:41 | |
'As soon as I was really able to get my hands on a instrument, I tried to play.' | 0:05:41 | 0:05:48 | |
My boyfriends would come and collect me to take me out, | 0:05:48 | 0:05:52 | |
and I was, of course, never ready, | 0:05:52 | 0:05:55 | |
so they'd strum along with Richard on his guitar. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:59 | |
That was when he started playing. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:01 | |
# Oh, kidzz Ah, kidzz. # | 0:06:01 | 0:06:06 | |
I can't say my parents approved of playing music. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:13 | |
I think they were probably worried. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:16 | |
My mum only gave up on me getting a proper job about five years ago. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:22 | |
Finally, she thinks it's legit, you know? | 0:06:22 | 0:06:25 | |
My dad was quite torn - he was a policeman, but a guitar player too, | 0:06:25 | 0:06:30 | |
so he loved the idea that I played the guitar and actually listened to his Django Reinhardt records. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:38 | |
Influenced by his dad's guitar playing and records, | 0:06:38 | 0:06:43 | |
Richard developed an eclectic musical taste way beyond his years. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:48 | |
Richard's talents began to find expression | 0:06:48 | 0:06:52 | |
in this fairly ordinary-looking suburban house in Muswell Hill. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:57 | |
Here we are - the old place. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:00 | |
It was my family home at the time the band came together. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:07 | |
We were renting it out, and a series of people passed through it, | 0:07:07 | 0:07:12 | |
amongst them Ashley Hutchings. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:16 | |
I had a room on the second floor, | 0:07:16 | 0:07:18 | |
which I painted red entirely - | 0:07:18 | 0:07:21 | |
the walls, the ceiling, everything. It WAS 1967. | 0:07:21 | 0:07:24 | |
And a neighbour of Ashley's was in the same class as Richard at school, | 0:07:24 | 0:07:31 | |
and through him, Richard was introduced into this sort of coterie of floating musicians. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:39 | |
When I started to play in the band with Simon and Ashley, | 0:07:39 | 0:07:43 | |
this was a logical rehearsal space. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:46 | |
It was first floor - I'm not sure which window. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:51 | |
GUITAR SOLO | 0:07:51 | 0:07:54 | |
Richard would be playing these fantastic solos at 15, 16 years old. | 0:07:56 | 0:08:00 | |
He would stand stock still, and barely a movement of the head. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:06 | |
He seemed to show no emotion. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
Um...it was all coming through the fingers. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:13 | |
Like any newly-formed band, they needed a name - | 0:08:13 | 0:08:17 | |
befitting the times, preferably one with at least six syllables. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:22 | |
We convened there, so it was Fairport Convention. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:26 | |
We took the name in May of 1967, Fairport Convention, and, um... | 0:08:26 | 0:08:31 | |
within three months or so we'd signed a recording contract. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:35 | |
It was a very happening period. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
# Hey, come and make music... # | 0:08:49 | 0:08:53 | |
The psychedelic clubs sprang up. The UFO club was the main one. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:59 | |
They'd have a light show or two or three, | 0:08:59 | 0:09:03 | |
the projector and the bubbly things going, lava lamps everywhere. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:09 | |
There were people smoking banana skins and we thought, "Wow, this is really far out!" | 0:09:09 | 0:09:15 | |
One time when we were playing at the UFO Club with, um... | 0:09:15 | 0:09:20 | |
Pink Floyd, Joe Boyd came down to see us. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:24 | |
There was this group of very nice Muswell Hill grammar school boys | 0:09:24 | 0:09:30 | |
and a girl, | 0:09:30 | 0:09:32 | |
playing American music - | 0:09:32 | 0:09:35 | |
Leonard Cohen songs and Richard Farina songs and Bob Dylan songs, | 0:09:35 | 0:09:41 | |
all being done in a kind of West Coasty rock style. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:46 | |
# And there ain't no time like the time that you're wasting | 0:09:46 | 0:09:51 | |
# And you waste just about what you choose | 0:09:51 | 0:09:55 | |
# There's a man at the table and you know he's been able | 0:09:55 | 0:09:59 | |
# To return all the odds that you lay | 0:09:59 | 0:10:02 | |
# And you can't feed your hunger And you ain't getting younger | 0:10:02 | 0:10:06 | |
# And your tongue ain't got nothing to say... # | 0:10:06 | 0:10:10 | |
'And then came the guitar solo, and Richard played an amazing solo.' | 0:10:10 | 0:10:15 | |
He played a solo which quotes from Django, from Charlie Christian... | 0:10:29 | 0:10:35 | |
you know, an incredibly sophisticated little solo. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:39 | |
And that really amazed me - the breadth of his sophistication. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:44 | |
On stage, Richard was very shy. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
He didn't talk a lot. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:03 | |
He seemed very serious and absorbed | 0:11:03 | 0:11:06 | |
and he was kind of hunched over his guitar, concentrated on his music. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:12 | |
And Richard was aged 17. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:14 | |
So...at the end of the gig I was in the dressing room, saying, "Would you guys like to make a record?" | 0:11:14 | 0:11:20 | |
Fairport Convention's first records were hip enough, though they didn't exactly set the charts alight. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:33 | |
But these were some of the best times for what was fast becoming a rollicking good-time band, | 0:11:33 | 0:11:40 | |
playing universities and festivals all over the country. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:44 | |
These were the days when beer money, or whatever other substances you purchased with it, | 0:11:44 | 0:11:50 | |
actually seemed to be enough. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:52 | |
Richard was rapidly emerging as the main writer in the band, | 0:11:53 | 0:11:59 | |
alongside new vocalist Sandy Denny. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:01 | |
Although it was the era of peace, love and brown rice, | 0:12:01 | 0:12:06 | |
his songs already possessed a weary fatalism. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:10 | |
When I was singing his songs, | 0:12:10 | 0:12:12 | |
he was developing his style, learning his art. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:17 | |
He spent a lot of time in his room, writing songs. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:21 | |
I think the special ones at that time were few and far between. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:26 | |
But Meet On The Ledge was a very special song. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:31 | |
# We used to say There'd come the day | 0:12:31 | 0:12:36 | |
# We'd all be making songs | 0:12:36 | 0:12:42 | |
# Or finding better words | 0:12:42 | 0:12:46 | |
# These ideas never lasted long... # | 0:12:46 | 0:12:50 | |
# The way is up | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
# Along the road | 0:12:55 | 0:12:58 | |
# The air is growing thin | 0:12:59 | 0:13:03 | |
# Too many friends who tried | 0:13:05 | 0:13:08 | |
# Swept off this mountain with the wind | 0:13:08 | 0:13:13 | |
# Meet on the ledge We're going to meet on the ledge | 0:13:16 | 0:13:21 | |
# When my time is up | 0:13:23 | 0:13:25 | |
# I'm going to see all my friends... # | 0:13:25 | 0:13:30 | |
# Meet on the ledge | 0:13:30 | 0:13:32 | |
# We're going to meet on the ledge | 0:13:32 | 0:13:36 | |
# If you really mean it | 0:13:36 | 0:13:39 | |
# It all comes around again... # | 0:13:39 | 0:13:43 | |
'I always thought of a ledge as a ledge you jump off, | 0:13:47 | 0:13:51 | |
'a ledge you stand on prior to jumping so that people can talk you down...or not.' | 0:13:51 | 0:13:57 | |
What he's saying is it's a risky business being alive. | 0:13:57 | 0:14:02 | |
It's...this is... | 0:14:02 | 0:14:04 | |
This is all a sham. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:07 | |
This is all paper-thin. It could go tomorrow. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:11 | |
# Meet on the ledge | 0:14:11 | 0:14:13 | |
# We're going to meet on the ledge | 0:14:13 | 0:14:17 | |
# When my time is up | 0:14:17 | 0:14:19 | |
# I'm going to see all of my friends | 0:14:19 | 0:14:24 | |
# Meet on the ledge | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
# We're going to meet on the ledge | 0:14:27 | 0:14:31 | |
# If you really mean it | 0:14:31 | 0:14:34 | |
# It all comes round again. # | 0:14:34 | 0:14:39 | |
"The way is up, along the road, the air is getting thin. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:44 | |
"Too many friends who died, | 0:14:44 | 0:14:47 | |
"blown off this mountain with the wind. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:50 | |
"Meet on the ledge." | 0:14:51 | 0:14:54 | |
It's about music and artists - | 0:14:54 | 0:14:57 | |
how people just give themselves to what they've got to do, and... | 0:14:57 | 0:15:02 | |
..get blown away by it sometimes. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:05 | |
Either drink, drugs or insanity... | 0:15:05 | 0:15:09 | |
..or just lousy, lousy luck. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:14 | |
It was just another drive home after a gig - | 0:15:30 | 0:15:34 | |
a Birmingham club called Mother's that we'd done numerous times. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:39 | |
We drove back to London after shows. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:42 | |
And Harvey, our tour manager, | 0:15:44 | 0:15:47 | |
had been ill all day with an upset stomach, | 0:15:47 | 0:15:50 | |
was definitely not feeling himself, | 0:15:50 | 0:15:53 | |
and nobody really knows what caused it, but he lost control of the vehicle. | 0:15:53 | 0:16:00 | |
I was sitting in the front and awake, so I saw it all happen. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:04 | |
Um...very scary. The van somersaulted. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:08 | |
I was out. We were all out - out the windows, out the doors. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:14 | |
When I came to, minutes later, | 0:16:14 | 0:16:16 | |
I was the only person left inside the van. Everybody else was ejected. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:21 | |
The crash caused the deaths of drummer Martin Lamble | 0:16:26 | 0:16:30 | |
and Richard's girlfriend, designer Jeannie Franklyn. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:35 | |
You question your theories of existence when young people die. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:42 | |
It's a very hard thing to bear. You look for the meaning in that. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:47 | |
And the answers aren't easy. When people die, you miss them, | 0:16:47 | 0:16:52 | |
you know? | 0:16:52 | 0:16:55 | |
# Oh, oh | 0:16:57 | 0:17:00 | |
# Helpless and slow... # | 0:17:00 | 0:17:02 | |
When Unhalfbricking - the band's third LP, recorded before the crash - was released, | 0:17:02 | 0:17:09 | |
the remaining Fairports considered whether they still had a future. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:14 | |
We were so shaken up, it was very hard to see sense at the time, | 0:17:14 | 0:17:19 | |
and I think we resolved at that point to really... | 0:17:19 | 0:17:24 | |
to kind of reinvent ourselves as interpreters of traditional music. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:29 | |
We conceived Liege And Lief | 0:17:29 | 0:17:32 | |
to explore the world of the traditional song as interpreted by a young English rock'n'roll band, | 0:17:32 | 0:17:39 | |
and make centuries-old songs sound like they were written yesterday, | 0:17:39 | 0:17:44 | |
and also to make new songs sound hundreds of years old. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:49 | |
We went down into the countryside, into Hampshire, | 0:17:49 | 0:17:53 | |
and our manager, Joe Boyd, rented a lovely Queen Anne house, | 0:17:53 | 0:17:57 | |
and that's where we started to form folk-rock music. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:01 | |
# Come all ye roving minstrels | 0:18:01 | 0:18:05 | |
# And together we'll try... # | 0:18:08 | 0:18:11 | |
Fairport, already joined by Sandy Denny, the great folk singer, | 0:18:11 | 0:18:16 | |
had now enlisted Dave Swarbrick, | 0:18:16 | 0:18:19 | |
the folk scene's leading fiddle player. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:22 | |
Although influenced by the American roots music of the Band, | 0:18:22 | 0:18:28 | |
amongst others, Fairport looked to the traditions and mysteries in their own back garden. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:34 | |
# "Well, tell me now, young Tamlyn," she says, "if a mortal man you be?" | 0:18:34 | 0:18:38 | |
# "I'll tell you no lies, sweet Margaret, | 0:18:38 | 0:18:42 | |
# "I was christened as good as thee, as thee | 0:18:42 | 0:18:45 | |
# "I was christened as good as thee." # | 0:18:45 | 0:18:48 | |
We thought when we did electric versions of traditional tunes | 0:18:48 | 0:18:53 | |
that this would be something people would recognise as their own - | 0:18:53 | 0:18:58 | |
their own culture, contemporised and made a bit more vital. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:03 | |
# ..And the stars they blazed like day | 0:19:03 | 0:19:07 | |
# And the Queen of Elfin, she gave a thrilling cry | 0:19:07 | 0:19:11 | |
# Young Tamlyn's away, away... # | 0:19:11 | 0:19:14 | |
# I forbid you maidens all | 0:19:24 | 0:19:27 | |
# That wear gold in your hair | 0:19:27 | 0:19:31 | |
# To travel to Carterhaugh | 0:19:31 | 0:19:33 | |
# For young Tam Lin is there... # | 0:19:33 | 0:19:37 | |
Richard's contribution was everything. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:43 | |
It was the amazing business | 0:19:43 | 0:19:46 | |
of him actually playing electric guitar lead jigs and reels, | 0:19:46 | 0:19:51 | |
which no-one had thought of before, | 0:19:51 | 0:19:54 | |
and playing in unison with Dave Swarbrick. | 0:19:54 | 0:20:00 | |
I thought rock'n'roll was the hardest music in the world then. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:06 | |
What I did was bring folk music into it, and that was new to them. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:12 | |
There was a musical battle going on between Swarb and Richard, | 0:20:13 | 0:20:18 | |
but it wasn't an egotistical battle, it was them firing off each other. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:23 | |
"Play that, then swing into this." | 0:20:23 | 0:20:26 | |
Swarbrick was breathtaking, and I knew that from other bands before. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:37 | |
But Richard Thompson made me listen different. I thought, "Ooh, who's this?" | 0:20:37 | 0:20:43 | |
He's the guy who kicked folk music's ass and gave it that youth thing - | 0:20:43 | 0:20:49 | |
gave it a beautiful stage and colour to stand on and be seen, | 0:20:49 | 0:20:54 | |
as a sexy thing, you know? | 0:20:54 | 0:20:58 | |
You're singing a song about a transvestite highway robber - come on! Behave yourself! | 0:20:58 | 0:21:05 | |
Get into the game here! | 0:21:05 | 0:21:08 | |
Ooh-yee! Howling violins! | 0:21:08 | 0:21:11 | |
That's the way to do it! | 0:21:14 | 0:21:17 | |
Whereas the fatsos with the corduroy were all giving it... | 0:21:17 | 0:21:22 | |
Get out of here! You know? That was then, this is now, boom! | 0:21:22 | 0:21:27 | |
People loved it on stage, to see these two guys wind each other up - | 0:21:30 | 0:21:36 | |
who could play that set of triplets faster? | 0:21:36 | 0:21:40 | |
DAVE SWARBRICK: That was the point of it - to make a bloody row! | 0:21:42 | 0:21:48 | |
Two can do that better than one! | 0:21:50 | 0:21:53 | |
He's one of those endless players - goes over the cliff again and again. | 0:21:57 | 0:22:02 | |
I think Swarb was very excited at playing with the band, | 0:22:04 | 0:22:08 | |
and he liked to push the tempos up till they were almost unplayable. | 0:22:08 | 0:22:14 | |
We kept turbo-charging. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:20 | |
We got carried away. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:23 | |
Perhaps not least with a serious case of folk-rock-guitarist's repetitive strain injury, | 0:22:32 | 0:22:39 | |
after one further album, Richard left Fairport Convention. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:44 | |
I sort of imploded. I had a feeling I had to try stuff on my own. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:48 | |
# Don't expect the words to ring Too sweetly on the ear Live in fear... # | 0:22:48 | 0:22:55 | |
Richard's first solo LP was the oddly titled Henry The Human Fly, | 0:22:55 | 0:23:00 | |
still beloved of devotees, not least for its cover picture. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:05 | |
I wanted a really good human fly costume, | 0:23:05 | 0:23:09 | |
but the budget came to £4/2s/6d. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:11 | |
Henry The Human Fly is a bit of an eccentric record. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:15 | |
It only sold eight copies, so there's eccentrics out there who are missing out. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:21 | |
# ..Listen to the scratchy voices Eating at your nerves... # | 0:23:21 | 0:23:25 | |
The singing on that album is not very confident, that's the problem. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:31 | |
I really wanted to sing the songs, but, um...I didn't do a good job. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:36 | |
Having launched himself on an unsuspecting world disguised as a fly, | 0:23:36 | 0:23:42 | |
Richard wisely teamed up with another singer. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:45 | |
Linda Peters, a friend of the Fairports, had done lucrative work singing on commercials. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:52 | |
Together with Richard, she formed one of the defining non-mainstream acts of the '70s. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:59 | |
It was a partnership that was always gonna happen. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:03 | |
She had always been in love with Richard. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:07 | |
They started singing together and it seemed a partnership made in heaven. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:12 | |
SISTER: Linda was the front person for his words. She was a glamorous-looking female singer, | 0:24:12 | 0:24:18 | |
and she became his stage presence by speaking for him, singing for him. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:23 | |
# I'm sorry for the things I've said | 0:24:23 | 0:24:27 | |
# The things I've done | 0:24:27 | 0:24:31 | |
# Sorry for the restless thief I've been | 0:24:32 | 0:24:38 | |
# Please don't make me pay for my deceiving heart | 0:24:40 | 0:24:47 | |
# Just turn up your lamp and let me in | 0:24:49 | 0:24:54 | |
# I wish I was a fool for you again | 0:24:58 | 0:25:02 | |
# I wish I was a fool for you... | 0:25:02 | 0:25:06 | |
# I wish I was a fool for you again | 0:25:06 | 0:25:10 | |
# I wish I was a fool for you... | 0:25:10 | 0:25:14 | |
# I wish I was a fool for you, yeah | 0:25:14 | 0:25:19 | |
# I wish I was a fool for you | 0:25:19 | 0:25:23 | |
# I wish I was a fool for you again... # | 0:25:23 | 0:25:27 | |
'Richard was quiet and interesting and mysterious, and that's attractive in a young person.' | 0:25:36 | 0:25:43 | |
There was some symbiotic thing between us, if that's the word. We could kind of... | 0:25:43 | 0:25:50 | |
You know, maybe we were just the same... miserable youth at the time. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:56 | |
We just sort of worked together, I guess. It worked well. | 0:25:56 | 0:26:01 | |
We got married, um... I wanted to get married much more than he did. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:11 | |
I always say I asked him to marry me, but then he says he asked me. I'm sure I asked him. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:19 | |
# I know the way | 0:26:23 | 0:26:28 | |
# That I feel about you | 0:26:28 | 0:26:34 | |
# I'm never gonna run away | 0:26:36 | 0:26:41 | |
# I'm never gonna run away... # | 0:26:41 | 0:26:47 | |
Richard and Linda reigned over those of us with any claim to an alternative philosophy of life | 0:26:49 | 0:26:56 | |
in the drab early 1970s, | 0:26:56 | 0:26:59 | |
blending a folk fatalism with a yearning for a better world than Britain during the three-day week. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:06 | |
# A heart needs a home... # | 0:27:06 | 0:27:11 | |
Island Records had trouble marketing the husband-and-wife duo, | 0:27:14 | 0:27:18 | |
not least because said duo seemed rather unconcerned with their own career curve. | 0:27:18 | 0:27:24 | |
Richard was a very shy and private man at that time. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:30 | |
I found him quite difficult to deal with, in a not unpleasant way. | 0:27:30 | 0:27:36 | |
But he certainly wasn't someone who was looking to grab fame with both hands and squeeze it dry - | 0:27:36 | 0:27:43 | |
quite the opposite. He shied away from it. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:47 | |
We weren't a commercial act. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:50 | |
I, actually, am a rampant snob. I adored being the critics' darling. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:55 | |
I loved being admired by my peers, and I didn't give a shit, really, | 0:27:55 | 0:28:00 | |
about selling thousands of records. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:02 | |
It has been speculated that this lack of wider success | 0:28:02 | 0:28:07 | |
might partly have been due to Richard's songs themselves. | 0:28:07 | 0:28:12 | |
Where his lyrics asked the big questions, his answers were often distinctly bleak. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:18 | |
You write sometimes from a mood - | 0:28:18 | 0:28:21 | |
you don't write a song necessarily thinking, "I should take a balanced view about this." | 0:28:21 | 0:28:27 | |
You write songs in fits of emotion. | 0:28:27 | 0:28:29 | |
You do push it all the way. You do push it to the limit. | 0:28:29 | 0:28:34 | |
But that doesn't mean that's where you live. | 0:28:34 | 0:28:38 | |
# I feel for you, you little horror | 0:28:38 | 0:28:40 | |
# Safe at your mother's breast | 0:28:40 | 0:28:45 | |
# No lucky break for you around the corner | 0:28:45 | 0:28:51 | |
# Cos your father is a bully | 0:28:53 | 0:28:56 | |
# And he thinks that you're a pest | 0:28:56 | 0:29:00 | |
# And your sister She's no better than a whore... # | 0:29:00 | 0:29:06 | |
I think it's a phenomenal song about a child coming into this crazy world. | 0:29:06 | 0:29:12 | |
And it was just after our first child was born. | 0:29:12 | 0:29:16 | |
And I was, you know, pinned to the wall by it. I thought, "My God!" | 0:29:16 | 0:29:21 | |
But so many people say to me, | 0:29:21 | 0:29:24 | |
"Were you insulted? It's a terrible song to write about a child." | 0:29:24 | 0:29:28 | |
I don't understand that logic. | 0:29:28 | 0:29:31 | |
# Life seems so rosy | 0:29:31 | 0:29:34 | |
# In the cradle | 0:29:34 | 0:29:37 | |
# But I'll be a friend | 0:29:39 | 0:29:41 | |
# I'll tell you what's in store | 0:29:41 | 0:29:45 | |
# There's nothing at the end of the rainbow | 0:29:46 | 0:29:52 | |
# There's nothing to grow up for any more. # | 0:29:54 | 0:30:01 | |
Some of his songs go into areas that are almost unthinkable. | 0:30:08 | 0:30:13 | |
I hope that, in writing such bleak material sometimes, | 0:30:13 | 0:30:17 | |
it actually helps him. | 0:30:17 | 0:30:20 | |
You know, he can ease his burden because it seems some of the songs seem so tortuous | 0:30:20 | 0:30:26 | |
that the person who made that song must be suffering a lot of anguish. | 0:30:26 | 0:30:32 | |
Music is spiritual stuff. It's a very spiritual thing to play music at any level, I believe. | 0:30:32 | 0:30:39 | |
It's very spiritual stuff and we have a duty as musicians to explore that side of ourselves. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:46 | |
That's an important thing to do. We've got to ask ourselves, "What are we doing as human beings?" | 0:30:46 | 0:30:52 | |
In the mid 1970s, Richard became a Sufi. | 0:31:02 | 0:31:05 | |
Sufism, which is the inside of Islam, | 0:31:07 | 0:31:10 | |
it all seemed laid out like a map. | 0:31:10 | 0:31:13 | |
If you pray at fixed points, | 0:31:16 | 0:31:18 | |
it gives you a certain change of perspective... | 0:31:18 | 0:31:22 | |
..it keeps you on a certain line. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:26 | |
You never stray too far from that line because you have to keep coming back to that line. | 0:31:26 | 0:31:34 | |
That makes life a lot easier. | 0:31:34 | 0:31:37 | |
I don't think there's a conversion. You just realise who you are. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:42 | |
# Dancing till my feet don't touch the ground | 0:31:42 | 0:31:47 | |
# I lose my mind and dance for ever | 0:31:50 | 0:31:54 | |
# Lose my mind and dance for ever | 0:31:54 | 0:31:58 | |
# Turn my world around | 0:31:58 | 0:32:01 | |
# Turn my world around. # | 0:32:02 | 0:32:05 | |
Richard became a Muslim, then I became a Muslim. | 0:32:08 | 0:32:12 | |
When you go into something like that, you tend to go into it wholeheartedly, and we both did. | 0:32:12 | 0:32:19 | |
He was, you know, a pain about it. He was very prudish and a pain, but so was I. | 0:32:19 | 0:32:26 | |
Not unusually for the '70s, | 0:32:28 | 0:32:30 | |
Richard and Linda, with their young family, went to live in a commune, | 0:32:30 | 0:32:35 | |
initially, a Sufi community in East Anglia, perhaps not unlike this one in London from the same time. | 0:32:35 | 0:32:42 | |
I didn't like it at all. It was hard going. | 0:32:42 | 0:32:46 | |
Nobody held a gun to my head, but in retrospect, I, you know... | 0:32:46 | 0:32:51 | |
..I sort of surrendered myself to an insane degree. | 0:32:52 | 0:32:56 | |
# Take my hand | 0:32:56 | 0:32:59 | |
# O, real companion | 0:32:59 | 0:33:03 | |
# And we'll dance We'll dance till we fade away. # | 0:33:05 | 0:33:11 | |
When Richard and Linda converted to Sufism, it made quite a difference. | 0:33:12 | 0:33:17 | |
They were pretty ascetic at the time, in person. | 0:33:17 | 0:33:21 | |
To interviewers and on stage, they were not forthcoming. | 0:33:21 | 0:33:26 | |
It wasn't like dealing with Roxy Music. | 0:33:26 | 0:33:30 | |
If you come across something that gives you what you think are the answers, | 0:33:31 | 0:33:38 | |
it has a profound impact on what you do. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:41 | |
It's probably the most profound impact of anything in my life. | 0:33:41 | 0:33:46 | |
Although Richard practises his faith to this day, | 0:33:50 | 0:33:54 | |
he, Linda and their family left the commune after two years. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:58 | |
The duo gradually re-emerged into the music business world. | 0:33:58 | 0:34:03 | |
Their satirical album Sunnyvista was not well received, however. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:08 | |
With typical irony, they had their greatest success with what was their last album together, | 0:34:10 | 0:34:17 | |
both as a duo and as man and wife. | 0:34:17 | 0:34:20 | |
Having a young family and being on the road was difficult. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:25 | |
-Eventually it counted against the marriage. -We were together for about ten years. | 0:34:25 | 0:34:31 | |
It was like 20 years for a normal couple because we were together during the day and in the evening. | 0:34:31 | 0:34:39 | |
# ..Hides like a child... # | 0:34:41 | 0:34:43 | |
There's a tendency to bring your work home with you and to take home to work and you never get a rest. | 0:34:43 | 0:34:51 | |
It's non-stop. | 0:34:51 | 0:34:54 | |
Difficult situation. | 0:34:55 | 0:34:57 | |
# ..He can't stand the day | 0:34:58 | 0:35:00 | |
# Shoot out the lights | 0:35:01 | 0:35:04 | |
# Shoot out the lights... # | 0:35:07 | 0:35:09 | |
People do say that the songs on Shoot Out The Lights are about our disintegrating marriage, | 0:35:09 | 0:35:16 | |
but the songs were written well before we broke up, so I wasn't thinking, "Oh, look, | 0:35:16 | 0:35:23 | |
"I've just written a song. It must mean the marriage is on the rocks." | 0:35:23 | 0:35:28 | |
It's more, "That's a dark song, but I like it." | 0:35:28 | 0:35:31 | |
# Just watching the dark... # | 0:35:33 | 0:35:36 | |
I hate to necessarily associate | 0:35:36 | 0:35:39 | |
people's lives with how I appreciate their music. | 0:35:39 | 0:35:43 | |
The music was already powerful. | 0:35:43 | 0:35:45 | |
It was pretty clear that something was up...or down. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:49 | |
# Shoot out the lights | 0:35:49 | 0:35:51 | |
# Shoot out the lights. # | 0:35:53 | 0:35:56 | |
It seemed to be tailor-made for the film of them falling apart. It was so sort of spooky. | 0:36:03 | 0:36:10 | |
It was breathtaking how accurately it portrayed what was about to happen to them. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:16 | |
During that record, I was pregnant and was concentrating on that more than the record. | 0:36:16 | 0:36:23 | |
When I listened to those songs after the split, | 0:36:23 | 0:36:27 | |
you'd have to be brain-dead not to see what was going on, but I didn't. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:33 | |
# When you're rocked on the ocean, rocked up and down, don't worry | 0:36:33 | 0:36:40 | |
# When you're spinning and turning round and round, don't worry... # | 0:36:44 | 0:36:50 | |
There were a lot of songs about disintegration of relationships, but I was used to those. | 0:36:50 | 0:36:57 | |
I sang a lot of those in my time! | 0:36:57 | 0:37:00 | |
# Your mind is confused and you can't seem to speak... # | 0:37:00 | 0:37:05 | |
'He said, "I'm in love with somebody else," and left.' | 0:37:05 | 0:37:09 | |
# It's just the motion | 0:37:09 | 0:37:11 | |
# It's just the motion. # | 0:37:13 | 0:37:16 | |
The LP, though, became something of a success, | 0:37:17 | 0:37:21 | |
especially in America, going on to be voted one of Rolling Stone's top LPs of the '80s. | 0:37:21 | 0:37:28 | |
The newly separated Richard and Linda were expected to capitalise on this success and go on tour. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:35 | |
Our manager was twisting our arms and saying, "If you don't do this tour, you'll never work again." | 0:37:37 | 0:37:44 | |
Richard said, "Linda, you'd be mad to go!" And I said, "I'm going." | 0:37:44 | 0:37:50 | |
It was difficult, yeah. There was a lot of personal animosity and... | 0:37:50 | 0:37:54 | |
..somehow... | 0:37:55 | 0:37:57 | |
we did it. | 0:37:58 | 0:38:01 | |
# Oh, it's just the motion, Oh, it's just the motion | 0:38:01 | 0:38:09 | |
# Oh-h... # | 0:38:09 | 0:38:11 | |
People say, "We saw that tour and it was fantastic! | 0:38:12 | 0:38:16 | |
"You were kicking him on stage and hitting him!" | 0:38:16 | 0:38:20 | |
I wasn't doing it all the time, but there was a load of tension. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:25 | |
I had been praying five times a day and covering myself up, | 0:38:25 | 0:38:30 | |
so here I was getting drunk, living on tranquillisers and singing. | 0:38:30 | 0:38:35 | |
# I've only sad stories to tell to this town | 0:38:35 | 0:38:42 | |
# My dreams have... # | 0:38:43 | 0:38:46 | |
Linda was a new definition of loose cannon. | 0:38:46 | 0:38:51 | |
I just looked around for the emergency exits, made sure I knew where they were. | 0:38:51 | 0:38:57 | |
When she wasn't in a quivering heap of jelly, she was capable | 0:38:57 | 0:39:02 | |
of really singing some of those terribly hard lyrics, | 0:39:02 | 0:39:06 | |
"Walking on a wire", excuse me? | 0:39:06 | 0:39:08 | |
Walking On A Wire was just about hanging onto a life disintegrating. | 0:39:13 | 0:39:19 | |
# I wish I could please you tonight | 0:39:19 | 0:39:23 | |
# But my medicine just won't come out right | 0:39:26 | 0:39:32 | |
# I'm walking on a wire I'm walking on a wire | 0:39:35 | 0:39:40 | |
# And I'm falling. # | 0:39:42 | 0:39:44 | |
I never say many good things about myself as a singer, but I CAN say, "I'm not kidding." | 0:39:44 | 0:39:50 | |
# Oh, it scares you when you don't know | 0:39:50 | 0:39:56 | |
# Whichever way the wind might blow. # | 0:39:59 | 0:40:04 | |
I was in the audience. | 0:40:05 | 0:40:07 | |
They were great shows and there was a lot of tension on stage. | 0:40:07 | 0:40:13 | |
It was truthful, you know. They didn't come out and pretend that something wasn't going on. | 0:40:13 | 0:40:20 | |
# I'm walking on a wire... # | 0:40:23 | 0:40:26 | |
As entertainment, you couldn't beat it. | 0:40:26 | 0:40:29 | |
# And I'm fall...falling | 0:40:31 | 0:40:37 | |
# Oh-h... # | 0:40:38 | 0:40:40 | |
I remember thinking Richard was being incredibly brave, | 0:40:44 | 0:40:49 | |
incredibly stoic | 0:40:49 | 0:40:51 | |
and probably extremely stupid, for putting us all through this. | 0:40:51 | 0:40:57 | |
The feedback I've got over the years is that it was a very tough tour to do! | 0:41:00 | 0:41:06 | |
All credit to everybody for getting through it. | 0:41:06 | 0:41:10 | |
And then the day I had to fly home, I thought, "I'm not going to drink any more." I threw the pills away. | 0:41:12 | 0:41:19 | |
I came home and started again. You know, one wasn't in great shape, but came home and started again. | 0:41:25 | 0:41:32 | |
While Linda went on to remarry and vary her involvement in music, | 0:41:37 | 0:41:41 | |
the tour had begun to establish Richard in America, | 0:41:41 | 0:41:46 | |
where he now has a bigger audience than in his own country. | 0:41:46 | 0:41:50 | |
God knows what his career would have been like had he stayed in Britain. | 0:41:50 | 0:41:55 | |
There is this syndrome in England about the tall poppy | 0:41:55 | 0:41:59 | |
and it does encourage people to kind of put their heads down and be a bit more tugging of their forelock. | 0:41:59 | 0:42:06 | |
America opens you up a little bit more to the idea of, "Yeah, I'm here. | 0:42:06 | 0:42:13 | |
"Come. Experience ME now," to a fault, as we all know, | 0:42:13 | 0:42:17 | |
but I think it's been good for Richard because that can take a big weight off you, | 0:42:17 | 0:42:23 | |
if you've been slogging through the music business for years. It's not a nice business. | 0:42:23 | 0:42:30 | |
# Time to ring some changes Time to ring some changes... # | 0:42:32 | 0:42:38 | |
It was during a solo tour of America that Richard had met that certain someone else, Nancy Covey, | 0:42:39 | 0:42:46 | |
who ran the folk club McCabe's and was to become the future Mrs Richard Thompson. | 0:42:46 | 0:42:53 | |
I hired Richard to play at McCabe's, the club that I ran in Los Angeles. | 0:42:53 | 0:42:59 | |
I didn't know how it would go. I knew he was a great musician, | 0:43:00 | 0:43:05 | |
but, boy, people came out of the woodwork! | 0:43:05 | 0:43:10 | |
The people in the know all showed up for those shows. | 0:43:10 | 0:43:15 | |
When I went to see the show - | 0:43:15 | 0:43:17 | |
I brought my dad with me - and I said, "Look at this line, Dad. | 0:43:17 | 0:43:22 | |
"This is the highest IQ in one place that I've ever seen in Los Angeles." | 0:43:22 | 0:43:28 | |
# Time to ring some changes | 0:43:28 | 0:43:31 | |
# Time to ring some changes... # | 0:43:31 | 0:43:34 | |
I remember he sat in a chair and he was very quiet. | 0:43:34 | 0:43:38 | |
He just played and I thought, "This is kind of a depressing guy." | 0:43:38 | 0:43:43 | |
You know, the music was incredible. | 0:43:43 | 0:43:46 | |
But, entertainment-wise, it was pretty hardcore stuff. | 0:43:47 | 0:43:52 | |
I was really surprised at how he was on stage, | 0:43:57 | 0:44:02 | |
-because the person -I -met | 0:44:02 | 0:44:05 | |
was this witty, charming, interesting, really fun, humorous guy. | 0:44:05 | 0:44:12 | |
That's who I'm married to. | 0:44:12 | 0:44:15 | |
After initially setting up home in London, | 0:44:17 | 0:44:21 | |
Richard and Nancy now spend much of the year in Los Angeles, where their son, Jack, goes to school. | 0:44:21 | 0:44:27 | |
The thing I noticed after he and Nancy got together | 0:44:27 | 0:44:32 | |
was that he deliberately shifted his focus of professional interest to the other side of the Atlantic. | 0:44:32 | 0:44:39 | |
It was immediately obvious that he was going to concentrate on raising his profile in that marketplace. | 0:44:40 | 0:44:48 | |
After his somewhat haphazard path through the '70s, | 0:44:50 | 0:44:55 | |
the '80s saw a more focused and career-minded Thompson emerge | 0:44:55 | 0:44:59 | |
with an increasingly scornful world view evident in his songwriting. | 0:44:59 | 0:45:04 | |
# I keep my nose clean I keep my speech plain | 0:45:16 | 0:45:19 | |
# I keep my promises She twists the knife again | 0:45:19 | 0:45:23 | |
# I shut my memory I close my eyes and then | 0:45:23 | 0:45:27 | |
# She takes another bite She twists the knife again | 0:45:27 | 0:45:31 | |
# In the middle of a kiss She twists the knife again | 0:45:31 | 0:45:35 | |
# When I get up off my knees She twists the knife again | 0:45:35 | 0:45:39 | |
# When I think I'm off the hook She gets me | 0:45:39 | 0:45:42 | |
# She twists the knife again She twists the knife again... # | 0:45:42 | 0:45:46 | |
It felt like this ghost of his relationship with Linda was still hanging around. | 0:45:46 | 0:45:52 | |
Every review focused on his personal life and tied the songs to it | 0:45:52 | 0:45:56 | |
and I would imagine that's pretty wearying. | 0:45:56 | 0:46:00 | |
# She twists that knife again! # | 0:46:00 | 0:46:03 | |
This is where we started to see more character stories, more narrative songs, | 0:46:03 | 0:46:08 | |
as opposed to the ones that were soul and agony - his own soul and agony, as it seemed, | 0:46:08 | 0:46:14 | |
and he might deny that they were about him, but they certainly seemed that they were from his life. | 0:46:14 | 0:46:20 | |
I suppose it was time to move into new territory. | 0:46:20 | 0:46:24 | |
While he settled into a life lived mainly in California, | 0:46:24 | 0:46:29 | |
Richard's thoughts, especially when he was writing, often turned to home. | 0:46:29 | 0:46:35 | |
I've always written about Britain. You kind of carry the landscape around with you. | 0:46:35 | 0:46:41 | |
Because I'm not a beach boy, | 0:46:41 | 0:46:43 | |
it doesn't sit right with me to use this as the landscape for the drama. | 0:46:43 | 0:46:49 | |
I have to put the characters back into a landscape I understand. | 0:46:49 | 0:46:54 | |
I'm a writer from a tradition. | 0:46:57 | 0:47:00 | |
Traditional models are very good, because it's such distilled music. | 0:47:00 | 0:47:05 | |
You're taking a story and following it through using ballad language, this very bright language. | 0:47:05 | 0:47:12 | |
# Says Red Molly to James | 0:47:15 | 0:47:18 | |
# "That's a fine motorbike | 0:47:18 | 0:47:21 | |
# "A girl could feel special on any such like!" | 0:47:21 | 0:47:25 | |
# Says James to Red Molly | 0:47:25 | 0:47:29 | |
# "My hat's off to you | 0:47:29 | 0:47:31 | |
# "It's a Vincent Black Lightning 1952 | 0:47:31 | 0:47:36 | |
# "And I've seen you at the corners and cafes, it seems | 0:47:36 | 0:47:41 | |
# "Red hair and black leather My favourite colour scheme!" | 0:47:41 | 0:47:45 | |
# And he pulled her on behind | 0:47:45 | 0:47:48 | |
# And down to Boxhill | 0:47:50 | 0:47:53 | |
# They did ride... # | 0:47:54 | 0:47:57 | |
Vincent Black Lightning is a racing specification bike. | 0:48:05 | 0:48:09 | |
When I was a kid, that was always the one you'd go, "Ooh, wow!" | 0:48:09 | 0:48:14 | |
I've always looked for English ideas that didn't sound corny, around which you could pin a song. | 0:48:17 | 0:48:23 | |
And this song started with a motorcycle, with the Vincent. | 0:48:23 | 0:48:27 | |
It was a good lodestar around which the song could revolve. | 0:48:27 | 0:48:32 | |
# Oh, he reached for her hand And he slipped her the keys | 0:48:32 | 0:48:36 | |
# Said, "I've got no further use for these | 0:48:36 | 0:48:40 | |
# "I see angels on Ariels in leather and chrome | 0:48:40 | 0:48:43 | |
# "Swooping down from heaven to carry me home." | 0:48:43 | 0:48:50 | |
# And he gave her one last kiss and died | 0:48:50 | 0:48:55 | |
# And he gave her his Vincent | 0:48:57 | 0:49:00 | |
# To ride. # | 0:49:01 | 0:49:06 | |
To find myself as a solo performer, I really had to work. | 0:49:10 | 0:49:13 | |
Quick! | 0:49:13 | 0:49:15 | |
Well, I had to be the frontman, which is OK... | 0:49:15 | 0:49:19 | |
Hello. ..I'm over here! Hello! | 0:49:19 | 0:49:23 | |
Richard was always the quiet person at the back. | 0:49:25 | 0:49:30 | |
It's so amazing that he now holds an audience in the palm of his hand. | 0:49:30 | 0:49:35 | |
Mother and I can never get over it. | 0:49:35 | 0:49:39 | |
We can never believe that that's the shy Richard. | 0:49:39 | 0:49:43 | |
MAN: It's like a state of grace, in a way. | 0:49:52 | 0:49:57 | |
You get to be light and charming and as not weighed down by your demons as you know yourself to be. | 0:49:57 | 0:50:03 | |
It's a lot to carry, but...! | 0:50:03 | 0:50:06 | |
He's roaming through this catalogue of profoundly dark and disturbing music, in a lot of ways, | 0:50:06 | 0:50:13 | |
and just tiptoeing through it and picking a dark flower here and a black rose there! | 0:50:13 | 0:50:20 | |
# This is the nearest to being alive | 0:50:20 | 0:50:23 | |
# Oh, let me take my chances on the wall of death... # | 0:50:23 | 0:50:28 | |
The listener is a very important part of the process. | 0:50:28 | 0:50:32 | |
You want a mirror, some criticism and you want some love back. You're doing it for love. | 0:50:32 | 0:50:38 | |
# ..on the wall of death! # | 0:50:38 | 0:50:43 | |
Enough praise to keep you floating. | 0:50:40 | 0:50:43 | |
Enough lubrication to keep the joints oiled and keep the wheel turning. | 0:50:43 | 0:50:49 | |
By the 1990s, Richard was getting appreciation from many quarters. | 0:50:53 | 0:50:58 | |
The head of Capitol Records was a fan | 0:50:58 | 0:51:01 | |
and signed Richard to the label where he recorded five albums over the next decade. | 0:51:01 | 0:51:07 | |
# But I'm misunderstood... # | 0:51:07 | 0:51:10 | |
During this time, Richard was also nominated for a Grammy, | 0:51:10 | 0:51:14 | |
as well as being honoured back in Britain with an Ivor Novello award | 0:51:14 | 0:51:19 | |
for his outstanding achievements in songwriting. | 0:51:19 | 0:51:22 | |
He goes deeper and says more original things than most songwriters. | 0:51:27 | 0:51:33 | |
I don't like to compare any songwriter to another. There's Randy Newman, Paul Simon and Dylan | 0:51:33 | 0:51:39 | |
and Richard Thompson's working at least on that level. | 0:51:39 | 0:51:43 | |
I'm in love with those ballads of Richard's. | 0:51:43 | 0:51:46 | |
Dimming Of The Day is one of the most beautiful songs and heart-breaking songs I've recorded. | 0:51:46 | 0:51:52 | |
# Now all the bonny birds have wheeled away | 0:51:52 | 0:52:03 | |
# And I need you at the dimming of the day... # | 0:52:03 | 0:52:12 | |
He's funny and he's not self-involved | 0:52:12 | 0:52:16 | |
and loves his life being a dad. | 0:52:16 | 0:52:18 | |
He's a beacon for people that are traversing the more occupational hazard part of rock'n'roll! | 0:52:18 | 0:52:25 | |
Richard seemed to have all the fun without all the dastardly results the rest of us had! | 0:52:25 | 0:52:31 | |
I'm on the road tomorrow, so I'll have to do a bit of laundry. | 0:52:31 | 0:52:35 | |
'I don't see him hanging out at the scene too much when there's big parties with Don Henley! | 0:52:35 | 0:52:42 | |
'He's a grown-up. | 0:52:42 | 0:52:45 | |
'I've been over there and it's a lovely, beautiful garden.' | 0:52:45 | 0:52:49 | |
I've learned to be loud with my plant choices. | 0:52:49 | 0:52:53 | |
Pastelly English pastoral look doesn't quite work here. | 0:52:53 | 0:52:57 | |
Things pop into your head. | 0:52:57 | 0:53:00 | |
Ideas come to you because you're not thinking about it. | 0:53:00 | 0:53:04 | |
I think a lot of the problem is switching your brain off. | 0:53:06 | 0:53:10 | |
Once you've switched your brain off then good things happen. | 0:53:10 | 0:53:15 | |
Unlike several rock'n'rollers one could mention, | 0:53:15 | 0:53:19 | |
Richard follows a regular work routine. | 0:53:19 | 0:53:22 | |
I live the way I live. | 0:53:22 | 0:53:25 | |
Creatively, to be more efficient, I get up really early. That's age as well. That's getting old! | 0:53:25 | 0:53:31 | |
But it's very convenient for me because I can work longer hours. | 0:53:31 | 0:53:36 | |
It's all work in progress. We don't discuss things while they're being processed. | 0:53:36 | 0:53:42 | |
You can talk something into the dustbin. That's why I won't. | 0:53:44 | 0:53:50 | |
We don't talk about it. | 0:53:50 | 0:53:52 | |
He does that job, but we refer to it as his job, his work. | 0:53:52 | 0:53:56 | |
I never even say, "How's the music going, honey?" | 0:53:56 | 0:54:01 | |
We just don't talk about it! | 0:54:01 | 0:54:03 | |
And it's because...I respect that, we have that distance, | 0:54:03 | 0:54:08 | |
we don't have to live the music all the time. | 0:54:08 | 0:54:11 | |
I think that that's what's worked for 20 years. | 0:54:11 | 0:54:16 | |
There's times when I've wanted to get some work finished, | 0:54:16 | 0:54:20 | |
so I'll do office hours - 9 to 4, 9 to 5 - | 0:54:20 | 0:54:25 | |
and plough through stuff. Sometimes that's a month or two. | 0:54:25 | 0:54:29 | |
My family doesn't like me during that period. They find me moody and withdrawn and difficult. | 0:54:29 | 0:54:35 | |
# Gloom and misery Gloom and misery... # | 0:54:35 | 0:54:39 | |
NANCY: Living with a creative guy, | 0:54:39 | 0:54:43 | |
well, it has its positives and negatives. It's not like living with John Denver. | 0:54:43 | 0:54:50 | |
Of course I hear little snippets of it around the house, | 0:54:50 | 0:54:53 | |
but I never even admit that I'm listening to that. | 0:54:53 | 0:54:57 | |
# Like perfume in the air... # | 0:54:57 | 0:55:02 | |
I'd love to hear those songs in progress. It would be great! | 0:55:02 | 0:55:07 | |
I'd love to have a little microphone into what he hears. I don't know what he hears in there. | 0:55:07 | 0:55:13 | |
# She may quit you She may forsake you... # | 0:55:13 | 0:55:17 | |
HE SWITCHES MUSIC OFF | 0:55:17 | 0:55:21 | |
-Why did you switch that off? -It's me. I don't like to listen to me! | 0:55:21 | 0:55:25 | |
If you're a writer, you live in society, but you're kind of on the edge of it. | 0:55:25 | 0:55:31 | |
You have to find your source material. | 0:55:31 | 0:55:35 | |
That's people walking down the street and people in the newspaper and all the stuff you remember, | 0:55:35 | 0:55:42 | |
all the past social situations. | 0:55:42 | 0:55:45 | |
Scary! | 0:55:45 | 0:55:46 | |
You need fuel and so you need to be out there with your eyes open. | 0:55:46 | 0:55:52 | |
-Me? -No, the man you're filming! | 0:55:55 | 0:55:58 | |
-I'm not a big personality. I'm a very small one. -You remind me of someone. | 0:55:58 | 0:56:04 | |
-I'm a musician. -What kind of a musician? -A folk musician. | 0:56:04 | 0:56:08 | |
-Like Peter, Paul and Mary? -Exactly. | 0:56:08 | 0:56:11 | |
BILLY CONNOLLY: He doesn't look passionate. He's a quiet guy. | 0:56:13 | 0:56:18 | |
He looks like a big English wally in his shorts and he knows it and doesn't care. | 0:56:18 | 0:56:23 | |
And he's got a funny Army hat. He's almost an anorak! | 0:56:23 | 0:56:28 | |
If you met Richard on a train, you'd think he was a big anorak. | 0:56:28 | 0:56:32 | |
You wouldn't think he was the guy with the gold Les Paul shaking the town! | 0:56:32 | 0:56:38 | |
# Well, there's a house in an alley | 0:56:38 | 0:56:42 | |
# In the squats and low-rise | 0:56:42 | 0:56:46 | |
# Of a town with no future | 0:56:46 | 0:56:51 | |
# But that's where my future lies... # | 0:56:51 | 0:56:55 | |
He's a suburban being. He'll never escape that. | 0:56:55 | 0:56:58 | |
# It's a rule, but no rule... # | 0:56:58 | 0:57:03 | |
Richard's driven from inside. He goes on writing songs, playing | 0:57:03 | 0:57:08 | |
and singing his songs because he has no choice. He goes at it with a will. | 0:57:08 | 0:57:13 | |
# Oh, now, my name it is Mulvaney | 0:57:13 | 0:57:17 | |
# And I'm known quite famously | 0:57:17 | 0:57:22 | |
# People speak my name in whispers | 0:57:22 | 0:57:26 | |
# What higher praise can there be? | 0:57:26 | 0:57:29 | |
# But I'd trade my fine mohair | 0:57:29 | 0:57:33 | |
# For tie-dyes and faded jeans | 0:57:33 | 0:57:38 | |
# If she wanted me some other way | 0:57:38 | 0:57:42 | |
# She's my Cooksferry Queen | 0:57:42 | 0:57:46 | |
# She gave me one pill to get bigger | 0:57:46 | 0:57:50 | |
# Gave me one pill to get small | 0:57:50 | 0:57:54 | |
# I saw snakes dancing all around her feet | 0:57:54 | 0:57:58 | |
# And dead men coming through the wall | 0:57:58 | 0:58:02 | |
# Well, I'm the prince of this parish | 0:58:02 | 0:58:07 | |
# I've been ruthless and I've been mean | 0:58:07 | 0:58:10 | |
# But she blew my mind as she opened my eyes | 0:58:10 | 0:58:15 | |
# She's my Cooksferry Queen | 0:58:15 | 0:58:19 | |
# Hey! He-ey! # | 0:58:19 | 0:58:22 | |
Subtitles by BBC Broadcast - 2003 | 0:58:35 | 0:58:38 | |
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