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# Your baby doesn't love you any more... # | 0:00:02 | 0:00:09 | |
This programme contains some strong language. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:12 | |
There is a magic in big classic singles that you can't pinpoint. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:18 | |
It's something that gets into the psyche. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:21 | |
All the great singles just have, from whatever period they are, constantly a great sound. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:31 | |
It was mysterious, somehow. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:38 | |
The black shininess of it all | 0:00:38 | 0:00:42 | |
and how did it work? | 0:00:42 | 0:00:43 | |
For two or three minutes, time just seemed to stand still. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:52 | |
Just hovering and listening to the music. | 0:00:52 | 0:00:55 | |
Everybody, every publisher, every record company, | 0:00:58 | 0:01:01 | |
every artist is looking for the single. Yeah, always. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:05 | |
I had 45,000 singles and 2,000 albums. What does that tell you? | 0:01:05 | 0:01:09 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:01:09 | 0:01:10 | |
The 7" single is classic and beautiful and romantic enough | 0:01:10 | 0:01:14 | |
that we'll never let it go. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
The single is like the sort of your, your ace card. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:24 | |
It's a thing that you lead with. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:26 | |
Your best idea. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:28 | |
It's the one that's usually the shortest and the most catchy. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:34 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:01:34 | 0:01:35 | |
Call me old-fashioned. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:36 | |
In 1949, American company RCA Victor | 0:01:44 | 0:01:48 | |
introduced the 7" vinyl 45 rpm record - | 0:01:48 | 0:01:53 | |
a small, perfectly conceived object | 0:01:53 | 0:01:56 | |
that would miraculously condense all the hopes, fears and experiences | 0:01:56 | 0:02:01 | |
of succeeding rock and roll generations on its shiny black surface. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:06 | |
Many of these small canvases were mini masterpieces, | 0:02:06 | 0:02:09 | |
so memorable that those who love them still remember the very first one they ever owned. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:15 | |
Blue Moon, by the Marcels. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:19 | |
I remember it because it was such a, you know, novelty | 0:02:19 | 0:02:24 | |
to have a 7" vinyl, 45 record. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:27 | |
I remember very well the first single I ever bought, | 0:02:27 | 0:02:30 | |
which was Cathy's Clown, by The Everly Brothers. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:34 | |
# Don't want your love any more... # | 0:02:34 | 0:02:41 | |
I played it to death, I wore it out. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:45 | |
I've still got it. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:46 | |
# ..That's for sure... # | 0:02:46 | 0:02:52 | |
And, if I hear it now, | 0:02:52 | 0:02:54 | |
I get the same feeling that I had | 0:02:54 | 0:02:56 | |
when I first bought it, when I was a teenager. | 0:02:56 | 0:02:59 | |
# Here he comes That's Cathy's clown. # | 0:02:59 | 0:03:07 | |
I remember buying Island Of Dreams, by The Springfields, | 0:03:07 | 0:03:11 | |
that was my very first record. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:13 | |
I remember exactly where I was and when it was. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:16 | |
It was at Whitwams, in Winchester, where I was at school. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:20 | |
The first single I bought was by T Rex. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:23 | |
It was Ride A White Swan. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:24 | |
And it was in Neil and Hardy's, | 0:03:24 | 0:03:26 | |
in Stockport's Merseyway shopping centre. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:29 | |
I walked all the way up Piggy Lane, to Mill Lane, | 0:03:29 | 0:03:32 | |
to an independent record store. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:36 | |
I was after Hey, Hey, We're The Monkees. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:39 | |
But the man behind the counter didn't have Hey, Hey, We're The Monkees, | 0:03:39 | 0:03:45 | |
and managed to sell me Blackberry Way, by The Move. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:51 | |
Which I went home with a bit unsure | 0:03:51 | 0:03:55 | |
until I put it onto the Dansette, | 0:03:55 | 0:03:57 | |
and there it was, you know, Blackberry Way. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:01 | |
# Goodbye, Blackberry Way | 0:04:01 | 0:04:06 | |
# I can't see you, I don't need you | 0:04:06 | 0:04:11 | |
# Goodbye, Blackberry Way | 0:04:11 | 0:04:15 | |
# Sure to want me back another day...# | 0:04:15 | 0:04:20 | |
The first record that I owned was Devil Gate Drive, by Suzi Quatro. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:26 | |
And...I've still got it, probably somewhere over there. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:29 | |
-Suzi Quatro, Devil Gate Drive. Shall we play this? -Yeah! | 0:04:29 | 0:04:32 | |
Cos this... | 0:04:32 | 0:04:35 | |
This still sounds as crunchy and spunky and exciting | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
for a 13-year-old going to a disco. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:43 | |
'You all want to go down to Devil Gate Drive?' | 0:04:43 | 0:04:45 | |
ALL: Yes! | 0:04:45 | 0:04:46 | |
Well, come on! | 0:04:46 | 0:04:48 | |
Welcome to The Dive! | 0:04:55 | 0:04:58 | |
ALL: One, two, one, two, three! | 0:04:58 | 0:05:02 | |
ALL: Yeah! | 0:05:03 | 0:05:04 | |
ALL: Yeah! | 0:05:04 | 0:05:06 | |
My first one that I actually asked my dad for some money for | 0:05:06 | 0:05:08 | |
was Bobby Darin, You Must Have Been A Beautiful Baby. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:12 | |
That song will imprint itself on your memory, | 0:05:12 | 0:05:14 | |
which is quite amazing. I mean, we all do that. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:16 | |
You could remember, as soon as you hear a single that you love, | 0:05:16 | 0:05:19 | |
you know where you were, what you were doing. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:21 | |
Probably one of the first things you really own that is yours, apart from toys. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:26 | |
So that's a dramatic move. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:29 | |
You're suddenly entering the world of art and poetry, music, | 0:05:29 | 0:05:32 | |
things that are just so wonderful and can be yours. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:35 | |
And you're entering...you're entering the door, you're falling down the rabbit hole, | 0:05:35 | 0:05:38 | |
going through the mirror, the looking glass. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:41 | |
You're doing all of that in one go with this object. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:43 | |
Even if you lived in the middle of nowhere, | 0:05:46 | 0:05:48 | |
not only could you find that object, | 0:05:48 | 0:05:51 | |
it had the power to change your life. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:53 | |
When I was a kid back in Oklahoma, | 0:05:58 | 0:06:00 | |
I was listening to singles, | 0:06:00 | 0:06:02 | |
and one day I heard this record come on | 0:06:02 | 0:06:06 | |
by a kid named Glen Campbell | 0:06:06 | 0:06:07 | |
and the song was Turn Around, Look At Me. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:11 | |
And it went... # There is someone | 0:06:15 | 0:06:17 | |
# Walking behind you | 0:06:17 | 0:06:22 | |
# Turn around | 0:06:22 | 0:06:25 | |
# Look at me... # | 0:06:28 | 0:06:30 | |
I can remember going back to my father. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:34 | |
He eventually did let me use the family car | 0:06:34 | 0:06:39 | |
to drive down to the record store and buy this single. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:42 | |
And I wore that thing completely out in three or four days. | 0:06:42 | 0:06:48 | |
I must have played it 500 times. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:50 | |
And I would get down on my knees beside my bed out there | 0:06:52 | 0:06:57 | |
in that great dome of stars that was the Midwest of the United States, | 0:06:57 | 0:07:04 | |
and I'd pray and I'd say, "Dear God, please, one of these days, | 0:07:04 | 0:07:07 | |
"let me meet...let me write a song like Turn Around, Look At Me. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:13 | |
"And let me meet Glen Campbell." | 0:07:13 | 0:07:17 | |
# And I need you more than want you | 0:07:17 | 0:07:21 | |
# And I want you for all time... # | 0:07:23 | 0:07:26 | |
How was I to know that Glen and I had a future together? | 0:07:26 | 0:07:30 | |
# ..And the Wichita Lineman | 0:07:30 | 0:07:36 | |
# Is still on the line. # | 0:07:36 | 0:07:39 | |
And there's where I rest my case for the existence of God. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:43 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:07:46 | 0:07:48 | |
If the power of the single could make you a believer, | 0:07:51 | 0:07:54 | |
the place to worship at the altar of the 7" was your local record shop - | 0:07:54 | 0:07:58 | |
crammed with new releases, undiscovered treasures, and fellow travellers, | 0:07:58 | 0:08:02 | |
all on a quest to find the next tiny vinyl miracle. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:07 | |
The real thing that I loved was going out to a shop | 0:08:09 | 0:08:14 | |
to be part of a community | 0:08:14 | 0:08:16 | |
and you take that out, | 0:08:16 | 0:08:20 | |
um...it doesn't work. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:22 | |
You'd get on the bus, go into town, maybe with your mates, | 0:08:22 | 0:08:25 | |
go into the, you know, the record store and, of course, | 0:08:25 | 0:08:29 | |
you go in to buy a particular thing, maybe. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:31 | |
But like going into a bookshop, you know, | 0:08:31 | 0:08:34 | |
you always see something else and would stop and browse. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:38 | |
The single didn't really come into my life | 0:08:40 | 0:08:43 | |
until I sort of smelt one in a record shop | 0:08:43 | 0:08:45 | |
and picked it up and, you know, wanted it. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:49 | |
And you... There's a smell to vinyl, which... It's just because it's... | 0:08:51 | 0:08:57 | |
Well, I mean, it smells of vinyl. | 0:08:57 | 0:09:00 | |
You might have to have to save up money, it became a thing of value. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:03 | |
You valued it more because... there was a little effort involved. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:07 | |
Music is about you want it. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:08 | |
And if you want it, you buy it. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:10 | |
You know, I hadn't got a pot to piss in. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:13 | |
But I spent every penny that I had on the music I loved. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:17 | |
When I got to save, my pocket money allowed to buy one single a week. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:22 | |
I would be there on Saturday and I would spend all Saturday morning deciding what single I would buy, | 0:09:22 | 0:09:26 | |
talking to other people. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:28 | |
And our local record shop was a big social gathering | 0:09:28 | 0:09:31 | |
on a Saturday morning. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:33 | |
# Load up, load up, load up | 0:09:33 | 0:09:36 | |
# With rubber bullets... # | 0:09:36 | 0:09:40 | |
The person serving you was like your granddad. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:43 | |
Now, in truth, he was probably 30 years old, | 0:09:43 | 0:09:47 | |
but he always looked about 65. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:48 | |
But he knew every single piece of music he sold you. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:53 | |
And you go into a booth to listen to the record. | 0:09:53 | 0:09:55 | |
So everybody would go in their own little booth. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:02 | |
You'd cram in with two or three of you, in a tiny booth. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:04 | |
You're all crammed together. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:06 | |
And everybody's, it's like phone boxes, everybody's trying to drag people out | 0:10:08 | 0:10:12 | |
to have their turn to play singles. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:14 | |
You took it home and you looked at it. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:19 | |
All the way home, you'd go on the bus going home | 0:10:19 | 0:10:22 | |
and couldn't wait to put it on the record deck and listen to it, | 0:10:22 | 0:10:25 | |
how it sounded. And it just gave you a thrill. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:28 | |
But the religion of the record shop could be threatening, | 0:10:28 | 0:10:32 | |
particularly to the uninitiated. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
# I want you | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
# And I need you... # | 0:10:38 | 0:10:42 | |
You know, I was a teenage girl. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:43 | |
A decent record shop would have seemed too intimidating to me. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:46 | |
You know, you must know what you want and why | 0:10:46 | 0:10:49 | |
and have the ability to analyse why something was good. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:52 | |
I didn't really have that, you know, I liked... | 0:10:52 | 0:10:54 | |
Mandy, by Barry Manilow, and I liked The Smiths. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:58 | |
But what I would do is go to the local Woolworths | 0:10:58 | 0:11:02 | |
and go to bargain bins and stuff like that. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:05 | |
I kind of collected a few things that way | 0:11:09 | 0:11:11 | |
until I really decided that there were some tracks that I wanted to own. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:15 | |
And then, I thought, right, I'm going to go to Woolworths on Saturday | 0:11:17 | 0:11:21 | |
"and I'm going to buy this one," you know. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:23 | |
And I bought Hit Me With Your Rhythm Stick. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:26 | |
# Hit me with your rhythm stick | 0:11:26 | 0:11:29 | |
# Hit me, hit me | 0:11:29 | 0:11:30 | |
# Das ist gut! C'est fantastique | 0:11:30 | 0:11:33 | |
# Hit me, hit me, hit me | 0:11:33 | 0:11:35 | |
# Hit me with your rhythm stick | 0:11:35 | 0:11:38 | |
# It's nice to be a lunatic | 0:11:38 | 0:11:40 | |
# Hit me, hit me, hit me... # | 0:11:40 | 0:11:43 | |
It's a real kids' track, actually. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:45 | |
I've got it, it's great, it's really... | 0:11:45 | 0:11:47 | |
It looks really good. I was quite surprised. Look at that. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:50 | |
Isn't that a brilliant cover? | 0:11:50 | 0:11:52 | |
And it also was really exciting cos it's got a rude word. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:55 | |
On the bottom... So this side is Hit Me With Your Rhythm Stick, | 0:11:55 | 0:11:58 | |
and this side is There Ain't Half Been Some Clever Bastards. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
It says "bastards" at the bottom, so I was really excited about it. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:04 | |
There was something about the logos of the record labels, | 0:12:04 | 0:12:08 | |
the colour scheme... They were branding, but they were doing it in a magical way, | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
cos it got mixed up with the unbelievable music, | 0:12:11 | 0:12:14 | |
so it became more evocative and more exciting than it should have been, really. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:18 | |
In the mid '60s, when I was only two or three, | 0:12:18 | 0:12:21 | |
my parents bought a couple of pop singles which they never played, | 0:12:21 | 0:12:25 | |
so I discovered them for myself and played them. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:27 | |
And I could still see them. I think I thought of them as toys, | 0:12:27 | 0:12:31 | |
so there was one which was orange and yellow and black, | 0:12:31 | 0:12:34 | |
and there was one which was black and silver. And that's, that's how I think of them. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:39 | |
The idea of the label was very important. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:41 | |
And the Parlophone label, with The Beatles, I know it was just, | 0:12:41 | 0:12:44 | |
you couldn't imagine it being on any other label, cos that's what they were. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:47 | |
It's like what they wore, it was part of them. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:51 | |
And the label that they were on was part of them. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:54 | |
You still remember it. I remember today the sleeve. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:58 | |
I remember the colour of the sleeve for each of those labels. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:01 | |
I remember the label, the colour of the label, | 0:13:01 | 0:13:04 | |
and how it was written and the logo, | 0:13:04 | 0:13:06 | |
because it was something that stuck in your psyche. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:09 | |
Cos on that label, it told you everything. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:12 | |
It told you who the writers were, who the producers were, | 0:13:12 | 0:13:16 | |
who the publishers were, | 0:13:16 | 0:13:18 | |
who the artist was but, more importantly, | 0:13:18 | 0:13:20 | |
it told you where it came from. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:21 | |
You would then find out that what you'd bought was an American record | 0:13:26 | 0:13:29 | |
and, in the very early '50s, that made you very trendy. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:32 | |
That stood you out from all the other kids in your class. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:38 | |
Just the sheer thrill that you were responding to something that was a design... | 0:13:50 | 0:13:54 | |
..that was a piece of engineering, that was a piece of science | 0:13:56 | 0:13:59 | |
as much as it was art and sex and beauty and glamour. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:02 | |
And it was all mixed up together. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:04 | |
I used to take a pen | 0:14:07 | 0:14:09 | |
and scratch out the name of the artist and the writer | 0:14:09 | 0:14:14 | |
and put Neil Sedaka in black ink to see how it might be | 0:14:14 | 0:14:21 | |
if I had a recording myself. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:23 | |
Is that visualisation or what? | 0:14:23 | 0:14:27 | |
Writing your name on the label was often the only chance you had | 0:14:27 | 0:14:30 | |
of getting your singles back at the end of an old-fashioned night out. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:35 | |
We used to go to youth clubs as well, | 0:14:37 | 0:14:38 | |
and we'd have a little record player in the corner of the youth club. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:42 | |
And everybody'd bring their favourite records along. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:45 | |
And they'd play them off and everybody would have a jive and have a dance to them. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:48 | |
# She can't help it The girl can't help it | 0:14:51 | 0:14:54 | |
# She can't help it The girl can't help it | 0:14:54 | 0:14:57 | |
# If she walks by the menfolks get engrossed... # | 0:14:57 | 0:15:00 | |
The last couple of songs of the night would have to be a ballad, | 0:15:00 | 0:15:03 | |
it would generally be an Everly Brothers, or it might be a Roy Orbison, | 0:15:03 | 0:15:07 | |
might be a slow Elvis one. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:10 | |
And you got the girls hooked then, | 0:15:10 | 0:15:11 | |
because then, you could dance close to the girls. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:14 | |
You could hold them tight, you could feel their body against you. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:18 | |
# I feel so bad | 0:15:18 | 0:15:20 | |
# I've got a worried mind | 0:15:20 | 0:15:23 | |
# I'm so lonesome all the time | 0:15:23 | 0:15:27 | |
# Since I left my baby behind | 0:15:27 | 0:15:31 | |
# On Blue Bayou... # | 0:15:31 | 0:15:34 | |
Your blood was rising, the sap was rising | 0:15:34 | 0:15:36 | |
when you had a little close dance at the end of the night. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:39 | |
To truly appreciate the sound of the classic 7" vinyl single, | 0:15:47 | 0:15:50 | |
you had to hear it playing from within the guts of its most sympathetic, custom-built home - | 0:15:50 | 0:15:57 | |
the juke box. | 0:15:57 | 0:15:59 | |
Singles in a juke box really made things comparative for popular music | 0:16:07 | 0:16:11 | |
and I'm certain that, like, Little Richard's singles, | 0:16:11 | 0:16:14 | |
the way they were recorded and how hot they were cut to vinyl | 0:16:14 | 0:16:18 | |
was to penetrate through the bar and be louder than everybody else's. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:22 | |
They sounded fabulous through a juke box, because there's this big, massive speaker | 0:16:24 | 0:16:28 | |
that boomed out and people were jiving in the coffee bar. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:32 | |
# Lucille | 0:16:32 | 0:16:34 | |
# You won't do your sister's will | 0:16:34 | 0:16:38 | |
# Lucille | 0:16:38 | 0:16:40 | |
# You won't do your sister's will... # | 0:16:40 | 0:16:43 | |
My late grandfather, at the top of his road, there was a cafe | 0:16:43 | 0:16:48 | |
and they had a juke box. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:49 | |
And when For Your Love came out, by The Yardbirds, in 1965, which I wrote. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:53 | |
He used to go up to the cafe, | 0:16:53 | 0:16:55 | |
you know, and I think he probably made | 0:16:55 | 0:16:57 | |
a rather incongruous figure there. | 0:16:57 | 0:16:59 | |
But he'd be feeding the juke box | 0:16:59 | 0:17:01 | |
and just playing it over and over. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:04 | |
Cos it gave him pleasure. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:05 | |
# For your love. # | 0:17:05 | 0:17:10 | |
In the early '60s, when bands were releasing singles every few months | 0:17:10 | 0:17:14 | |
like postcards from the front, | 0:17:14 | 0:17:16 | |
a teenage Graham Gouldman penned classics | 0:17:16 | 0:17:18 | |
for Herman's Hermits, The Yardbirds and The Hollies. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:22 | |
# Look through any window, yeah | 0:17:22 | 0:17:24 | |
# What do you see? | 0:17:24 | 0:17:28 | |
# Smiling faces all around | 0:17:28 | 0:17:31 | |
# Rushing through the busy towns...# | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
Look Through The Window was written and it was given to a publisher | 0:17:34 | 0:17:38 | |
and he took it to The Hollies. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:40 | |
And then The Hollies said to me, | 0:17:40 | 0:17:42 | |
"We'd like you to write another song for us." | 0:17:42 | 0:17:45 | |
# Bus stop, wet day She's there, I say | 0:17:52 | 0:17:55 | |
# Please share my umbrella... # | 0:17:55 | 0:17:59 | |
I wrote Bus Stop quite quickly after being asked. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:02 | |
I already had the idea but, as soon as I finished it, | 0:18:02 | 0:18:04 | |
I thought, "This is perfect." | 0:18:04 | 0:18:06 | |
# ..All that summer We enjoyed it... # | 0:18:06 | 0:18:10 | |
In the mid '60s, things happened very quickly. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:13 | |
They heard it, I think they recorded it within about three or four weeks | 0:18:13 | 0:18:18 | |
and it was released within three or four weeks after that. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:21 | |
# ..Every morning I would see her Waiting at the stop... # | 0:18:21 | 0:18:26 | |
But then, to receive the single | 0:18:26 | 0:18:30 | |
and it's got - Bus Stop, The Hollies, Gouldman. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:34 | |
It's like, wow! | 0:18:37 | 0:18:39 | |
-We haven't even talked about B-sides yet. -No! | 0:18:40 | 0:18:43 | |
-B-sides, can we get on to B-sides? -Yeah, OK. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:46 | |
This is my mood board, | 0:18:46 | 0:18:47 | |
which is things to stare at when you've got no inspiration in the studio. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:52 | |
A Northern South badge saying, "Try The Flip Side." | 0:18:52 | 0:18:55 | |
THEY CHUCKLE | 0:18:55 | 0:18:57 | |
The B-side is often more interesting than the A-side, kids. | 0:18:57 | 0:19:00 | |
You don't know what they are. HE CHUCKLES | 0:19:00 | 0:19:02 | |
Yeah, the dark, kind of magical world of the B-side. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:07 | |
Sometimes, they were shit, you know, and it was a kind of... | 0:19:07 | 0:19:10 | |
But sometimes, they were an excuse for an artist to become self-indulgent as well, | 0:19:10 | 0:19:15 | |
so you kind of get a chance to experiment as well with a B-side, I reckon. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:19 | |
I always loved it with Sweet, for instance, | 0:19:19 | 0:19:21 | |
where the A-side would be a Chinn and Chapman piece of tinsel | 0:19:21 | 0:19:25 | |
and on the B-side... I used to love confounding my friends at school | 0:19:25 | 0:19:28 | |
in the early '70s with Sweet B-sides, | 0:19:28 | 0:19:30 | |
cos I'd play at them, and they would go, "Black Sabbath? Led Zep?" | 0:19:30 | 0:19:33 | |
"No, Sweet. Ha, ha, got you!" | 0:19:33 | 0:19:35 | |
This a B-side. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:37 | |
This is by Little Walter. This is called Up The Line. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:41 | |
He plays a chromatic harmonica on this. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:44 | |
And he was just like the Charlie Parker of blues, you know. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:47 | |
MUSIC STARTS PLAYING | 0:19:47 | 0:19:48 | |
Baritone sax in there. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:50 | |
# You used to love me.. # | 0:19:50 | 0:19:52 | |
And a great singer. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:53 | |
# ..You said I was your desire... # | 0:19:53 | 0:19:56 | |
Most people collected to B-sides as much as they did the A-sides. | 0:19:56 | 0:20:00 | |
# ..Out, baby. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:02 | |
# Girl, I'm going back Up the line... # | 0:20:02 | 0:20:05 | |
A B-side was always a liberating experience | 0:20:05 | 0:20:08 | |
to go and record, very often in a day. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:11 | |
# ..Drive me out of my mind. # | 0:20:11 | 0:20:15 | |
You had your favourite B-sides, | 0:20:15 | 0:20:18 | |
and it was great to think you were in a little clique | 0:20:18 | 0:20:20 | |
that liked a B-side and your mate might have hated it. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:24 | |
But you had a few mates that did like the B-side. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:26 | |
# ..Out, baby | 0:20:26 | 0:20:29 | |
# Girl, I'm going back up the line. # | 0:20:29 | 0:20:31 | |
They were the throwaway thing with no pressure | 0:20:31 | 0:20:35 | |
that only had to exist because records have two sides | 0:20:35 | 0:20:38 | |
and you wanted something else. | 0:20:38 | 0:20:40 | |
HE HUMS | 0:20:40 | 0:20:42 | |
The B-side, certainly on Beatles records, | 0:20:46 | 0:20:48 | |
was as important as the A-sides. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:50 | |
Because the B-sides never appeared on any albums, | 0:20:50 | 0:20:54 | |
so if you were a real collector, it was the B-side that you wanted | 0:20:54 | 0:20:57 | |
as much as the A-side. | 0:20:57 | 0:20:59 | |
# How does it feel to be | 0:21:12 | 0:21:15 | |
# One of the beautiful people? # | 0:21:15 | 0:21:17 | |
Beatles were the first real group | 0:21:17 | 0:21:19 | |
that I wanted more than their singles, | 0:21:19 | 0:21:22 | |
because I'd bought into the ethos of The Beatles. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:25 | |
And I guess it was the B-sides that actually got me into that. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:28 | |
The classic single was like a fairground ride - | 0:21:33 | 0:21:36 | |
cheap, thrilling and over far too soon. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:40 | |
They were short - sometimes very short. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:43 | |
But the pain of them being over so quickly was part of their joy. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:47 | |
The single in its perfection was a kind of capsulised presentation | 0:21:52 | 0:21:58 | |
of an artist's whole zeitgeist. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:02 | |
# Well, since my baby left me | 0:22:02 | 0:22:04 | |
# Well, I found a new place to dwell... # | 0:22:04 | 0:22:07 | |
This is Elvis Presley in a gelcap. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:11 | |
# ..At Heartbreak Hotel... # | 0:22:11 | 0:22:13 | |
It settled down to this shape in the early '50s, | 0:22:13 | 0:22:15 | |
45rpm was the best shape to put one song on. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:18 | |
And therefore, that was your canvas | 0:22:18 | 0:22:20 | |
and then, you did everything within it. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:22 | |
I loved the idea of having something so condensed and pure | 0:22:22 | 0:22:28 | |
that every second counts. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:30 | |
Phil Spector's records used to be one minute 21. You got this thing, it had to be an specific length. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:36 | |
# Oh, oh Oh, oh, oh, oh... # | 0:22:38 | 0:22:42 | |
The perfect pop song is so cruel in a way, | 0:22:42 | 0:22:46 | |
because it gives you just a little bit, like, you know what I mean? | 0:22:46 | 0:22:49 | |
It makes you put it on again and again and again and again and again and again... | 0:22:49 | 0:22:55 | |
Most art, I think, that's any good operates within quite tight confines | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
and then, you express yourself within that. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:00 | |
And I think the single, obviously, gives you quite tight confines, really. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:04 | |
The perfect single is something of a tease | 0:23:04 | 0:23:07 | |
in that it catches your attention immediately, | 0:23:07 | 0:23:11 | |
pulls you towards it, but it doesn't quite give you what you want. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
# Have I ever told you | 0:23:16 | 0:23:19 | |
# How good it feels To hold you...? # | 0:23:19 | 0:23:22 | |
Some of Elvis's especially, were 1.59, they're just... | 0:23:22 | 0:23:25 | |
It was down to radio play, that's why they made them so short. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:29 | |
There was an art to it. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:31 | |
Howie and I would write a song from beginning to end | 0:23:31 | 0:23:34 | |
that would tell a whole story - | 0:23:34 | 0:23:36 | |
Happy Birthday, Sweet Sixteen, Breaking Up Is Hard To Do, Calendar Girl. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:41 | |
Tied and wrapped in a ribbon and there you are, | 0:23:41 | 0:23:45 | |
from beginning to end, no more than two and a half minutes. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:49 | |
The radio stations wouldn't play anything that was longer. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:53 | |
20 and a half minutes before noon, let's take a look at the local weather forecast, | 0:23:53 | 0:23:58 | |
partly clouded... | 0:23:58 | 0:23:59 | |
MUSIC STARTS PLAYING | 0:23:59 | 0:24:02 | |
The sound quality of the 7" vinyl single was made for radio - | 0:24:02 | 0:24:06 | |
able to punch through the atmosphere wherever you were, | 0:24:06 | 0:24:09 | |
whatever the weather. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:10 | |
You know you can keep your home looking nice by having your drapes and slipcovers professionally cleaned | 0:24:10 | 0:24:15 | |
by New Method Laundry And Dry Cleaners at 321 South... | 0:24:15 | 0:24:18 | |
The endless stream of sponsors' messages, jingles and ads on local American stations | 0:24:21 | 0:24:27 | |
peppered right across a vast nation, | 0:24:27 | 0:24:30 | |
making the single the perfect partner for the medium of commercial radio. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:34 | |
Short and sweet enough to keep you tuned in. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:39 | |
Hello? Squirrel Cage. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:44 | |
Uh, go ahead, operator. Sea overseas operator again. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:51 | |
In Britain, radio's love affair with the pop single | 0:24:56 | 0:24:59 | |
reached new heights in 1967 with the arrival of pirate stations. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:04 | |
DJs were free to play whatever they wanted, whenever they wanted. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:08 | |
And why not? They were three miles out at sea. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:11 | |
They weren't going anywhere. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:13 | |
This is Radio Caroline on 199... | 0:25:13 | 0:25:16 | |
But in 1968, Jimmy Webb's MacArthur Park liberated the DJ. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:20 | |
Its musical ambition refused to be confined by the three-minute format, | 0:25:20 | 0:25:25 | |
expanding its running time to an unprecedented seven minutes and 20 seconds. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:30 | |
Suddenly, radio DJs everywhere had time to kill. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:34 | |
# Spring was never waiting for us, girl | 0:25:34 | 0:25:38 | |
# It ran one step ahead | 0:25:38 | 0:25:40 | |
# As we followed in the dance... # | 0:25:40 | 0:25:44 | |
DJs did all sorts of interesting things | 0:25:51 | 0:25:54 | |
while they were playing MacArthur Park, | 0:25:54 | 0:25:57 | |
which I'm not going to go into, because this is a family programme. | 0:25:57 | 0:26:02 | |
CHUCKLING But, uh... | 0:26:02 | 0:26:05 | |
All sorts of things were accomplished while MacArthur Park was playing. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:11 | |
CHURCH BELLS RING | 0:26:16 | 0:26:19 | |
I heard of DJs driving home, feeding their dog and driving back. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:29 | |
I mean, really crazy things. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:31 | |
And so, as the clock is standing at nearly midnight, | 0:26:57 | 0:27:00 | |
we bring to a close another day of broadcasting for Cowboy Radio. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:04 | |
By the late '60s, it was all about the concept. | 0:27:09 | 0:27:12 | |
News from the underground was that the album was now where it was at - | 0:27:12 | 0:27:17 | |
where pop and rock's true artists could best express themselves. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:20 | |
12" of 12 songs, not one of them a single, was the new joy. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:25 | |
Albums, yeah, albums. | 0:27:25 | 0:27:29 | |
I remember that phrase as clear as day, | 0:27:29 | 0:27:33 | |
"You don't need a single to sell an album." | 0:27:33 | 0:27:35 | |
I think it might have been the beginning of something | 0:27:36 | 0:27:40 | |
really bad and really...insidious. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:43 | |
It may have been the beginning of just that little bit of rot | 0:27:48 | 0:27:53 | |
that sort of got in the gunnels, | 0:27:53 | 0:27:56 | |
you know, of the ship of rock and roll. | 0:27:56 | 0:28:00 | |
If you sit down to listen to a record, you don't want to get up after two or three minutes, | 0:28:03 | 0:28:07 | |
switch over to another record... And also, your mood changes with the single. | 0:28:07 | 0:28:10 | |
The mood changes with each single, naturally, you see. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:13 | |
An LP has a theme. | 0:28:13 | 0:28:15 | |
A lot of LPs nowadays of pop groups are concentrating on a particular theme. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:19 | |
You know, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd wouldn't make singles. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:26 | |
To see Deep Purple on Top Of The Pops was a forbidden thrill, | 0:28:26 | 0:28:29 | |
because it was so odd to see the underground, | 0:28:29 | 0:28:32 | |
and I really believed there was an underground, where these people lived. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:35 | |
Jethro Tull next door to Deep Purple, next door to Black Sabbath | 0:28:35 | 0:28:38 | |
in the underground, and they came up for light occasionally. | 0:28:38 | 0:28:41 | |
To see them on Top Of The Pops was extraordinary, because there was this division. | 0:28:45 | 0:28:49 | |
If the Underground had abandoned the single, | 0:28:51 | 0:28:53 | |
the Overground of the early '70s was back in 7" overdrive. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:57 | |
I think it was so singly-orientated, | 0:28:57 | 0:29:00 | |
We'd make about four singles | 0:29:00 | 0:29:02 | |
and all of a sudden discover we haven't got an album. | 0:29:02 | 0:29:05 | |
You never thought of albums, albums were the process | 0:29:07 | 0:29:10 | |
that came along after you'd had two or three hit singles. | 0:29:10 | 0:29:13 | |
And then, you know, the record company let you make an album. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:17 | |
You didn't cut an album and then start taking singles off the album. | 0:29:17 | 0:29:21 | |
The record business didn't work like that in those days. | 0:29:21 | 0:29:24 | |
The albums were an afterthought, really. | 0:29:24 | 0:29:28 | |
In one year, we had five singles out, in one year. | 0:29:28 | 0:29:31 | |
# That's right, that's right That's right, that's right | 0:29:31 | 0:29:34 | |
# I really love Your tiger light... # | 0:29:34 | 0:29:36 | |
Studio costs were expensive then, so we'd get a single done in a day. | 0:29:36 | 0:29:41 | |
The Glam Rock years were dominated by songs | 0:29:43 | 0:29:46 | |
which seemed to knowingly evoke the glory years | 0:29:46 | 0:29:49 | |
of the rock and roll single - | 0:29:49 | 0:29:51 | |
many of them from the pen of Mike Chapman. | 0:29:51 | 0:29:54 | |
Mike Chapman would have a little demo of a song | 0:29:54 | 0:29:57 | |
that he'd done all himself, with acoustic guitars and tambourines and vocals that he'd done himself. | 0:29:57 | 0:30:02 | |
He'd play it to us and he almost became the fifth member of the band. | 0:30:02 | 0:30:06 | |
# That's neat, that's neat That's neat , that's neat | 0:30:06 | 0:30:09 | |
# I really love your tiger feet... # | 0:30:09 | 0:30:11 | |
I remember Mike was quoted in a newspaper article saying, | 0:30:11 | 0:30:15 | |
"I wish I could wake up one morning and not write a hit." | 0:30:15 | 0:30:18 | |
And, as awful as that sounds, at that time, it was true. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:23 | |
Trailblazing Detroit rocker Suzi Quatro chose Britain and producer Micky Most | 0:30:26 | 0:30:31 | |
for her campaign on the singles chart, | 0:30:31 | 0:30:33 | |
made possible by the writing team of Mike Chapman and Nicky Chinn. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:38 | |
# Well, you call your mama Tiger And we all know you are lying... # | 0:30:38 | 0:30:42 | |
They were just able to put it all into three minutes. | 0:30:42 | 0:30:45 | |
# ..And your boyfriend's name is Eagle and he lives up in the sky... # | 0:30:45 | 0:30:49 | |
They could take an idea and go whoo... | 0:30:49 | 0:30:51 | |
# ..Can the can | 0:30:51 | 0:30:52 | |
# Can the can | 0:30:54 | 0:30:56 | |
# If you can | 0:30:58 | 0:31:00 | |
# Well, can the can. # | 0:31:02 | 0:31:03 | |
There's singles and there's album tracks and you know it as you're doing it. | 0:31:03 | 0:31:07 | |
And you can't make a single out of an album track | 0:31:07 | 0:31:09 | |
and you can't make an album track out of single. They are two different animals. | 0:31:09 | 0:31:13 | |
Before they discovered their own writing talents, | 0:31:16 | 0:31:18 | |
Slade's act was simply a medley of their all-time favourite singles. | 0:31:18 | 0:31:23 | |
We could be playing a Motown song one minute, | 0:31:23 | 0:31:26 | |
we could be playing a Mothers Of Invention, a Frank Zappa song the next minute, | 0:31:26 | 0:31:30 | |
we could be playing a Moody Blues song the next minute. | 0:31:30 | 0:31:32 | |
We had a huge, huge repertoire. | 0:31:34 | 0:31:36 | |
But it was all singles, it was all based on singles, | 0:31:38 | 0:31:41 | |
singles that we loved ourselves. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:43 | |
# Cum on, feel the noize | 0:31:43 | 0:31:46 | |
# Girls, grab the boys | 0:31:46 | 0:31:49 | |
# We get wild... # | 0:31:49 | 0:31:50 | |
Slade's love of the 7" would help make them THE singles band of the '70s - | 0:31:50 | 0:31:55 | |
a decade which saw them chart again and again and again. | 0:31:55 | 0:32:00 | |
We had 18 on the trot and most of them were top three, | 0:32:00 | 0:32:04 | |
six of them were number one, | 0:32:04 | 0:32:05 | |
three of them went to number one first day they were released. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:09 | |
Nobody had done that, not even The Beatles had done that. | 0:32:09 | 0:32:12 | |
# Metal guru, is it you? | 0:32:12 | 0:32:14 | |
# All alone without a telephone | 0:32:14 | 0:32:19 | |
# Metal guru, could it be? | 0:32:19 | 0:32:22 | |
# You're gonna bring my baby to me... # | 0:32:22 | 0:32:25 | |
The division between the album and the single | 0:32:25 | 0:32:28 | |
had also been drawn along gender lines - | 0:32:28 | 0:32:30 | |
albums were for boys and singles were for girls. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:33 | |
I'm pretty much a single's girl, you know, I am. | 0:32:37 | 0:32:40 | |
I like the idea of Desert Island Discs, | 0:32:40 | 0:32:42 | |
I like the idea of making a tape for people. | 0:32:42 | 0:32:44 | |
You're not meant to say this, it's heresy. | 0:32:44 | 0:32:47 | |
I quite like the idea of unbundling albums and picking out the good tracks. | 0:32:47 | 0:32:52 | |
Because, to be honest, | 0:32:52 | 0:32:53 | |
there's not many really, really, really brilliant albums. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:56 | |
The perfect singles, | 0:32:56 | 0:32:58 | |
the ones for me that have been the biggest, have always been... | 0:32:58 | 0:33:00 | |
You know, when it's gone to number one, like Bright Eyes. | 0:33:00 | 0:33:04 | |
When the guy asked me to write that song for the movie, Watership Down, | 0:33:04 | 0:33:09 | |
he said, "Write me a song about death." | 0:33:09 | 0:33:12 | |
So I went home and I thought for ages, like this is the most difficult thing ever. | 0:33:12 | 0:33:16 | |
And I thought, "Hang on, it's the easiest thing. | 0:33:16 | 0:33:19 | |
"Because this is the biggest question in everyone's life." | 0:33:19 | 0:33:22 | |
I remembered my granny and how twinkly her eyes were... | 0:33:22 | 0:33:26 | |
How can they not be twinkly any more? Cos she's dead. | 0:33:26 | 0:33:30 | |
# Bright eyes | 0:33:30 | 0:33:32 | |
# Burning like fire | 0:33:32 | 0:33:36 | |
# Bright eyes | 0:33:38 | 0:33:41 | |
# How can you close and fail? # | 0:33:41 | 0:33:44 | |
When you're writing the song, | 0:33:44 | 0:33:46 | |
if you start to feel emotional and you're holding it back a bit, | 0:33:46 | 0:33:49 | |
you know, you're...filling up, I think, is the expression. | 0:33:49 | 0:33:53 | |
Then you know that it's likely to have a mirror effect. | 0:33:53 | 0:33:57 | |
# Dream | 0:33:59 | 0:34:01 | |
# Dream, dream, dream... # | 0:34:01 | 0:34:03 | |
For the rock and roll generation, the single has always been there. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:07 | |
And along the way, somewhere, somehow, | 0:34:07 | 0:34:11 | |
it helps us to remember, not only the joy, | 0:34:11 | 0:34:14 | |
but also the pain, of growing up. | 0:34:14 | 0:34:19 | |
# ..Whenever I want you All I have to do is dream... # | 0:34:19 | 0:34:22 | |
A really important thing happened, you know, with the single, | 0:34:22 | 0:34:26 | |
cos many people, at very important moments of their life | 0:34:26 | 0:34:28 | |
the most important thing in their life became the single. | 0:34:28 | 0:34:31 | |
I remember very clearly walking into the record shop | 0:34:33 | 0:34:37 | |
to buy the new Joy Division single, Transmission | 0:34:37 | 0:34:41 | |
and my sort of boyfriend stepping forward | 0:34:41 | 0:34:44 | |
and saying quite formally, | 0:34:44 | 0:34:46 | |
"I would like to buy this for you." | 0:34:46 | 0:34:48 | |
And the man behind the desk officiating | 0:34:48 | 0:34:52 | |
over this and taking two pounds from my boyfriend, | 0:34:52 | 0:34:57 | |
who then, handed it to me, and it felt as good as a ring. | 0:34:57 | 0:35:00 | |
It's not about remembering your youth, it isn't that, actually. | 0:35:02 | 0:35:06 | |
It's about remembering that record. | 0:35:06 | 0:35:07 | |
# Johnny, remember me... # | 0:35:07 | 0:35:11 | |
When you heard a single, | 0:35:11 | 0:35:13 | |
you knew exactly where you were when you heard it. | 0:35:13 | 0:35:15 | |
I mean, I can remember where I was | 0:35:15 | 0:35:17 | |
the day I heard Carole King's, It Might As Well Rain Until September, | 0:35:17 | 0:35:21 | |
Locomotion, by Little Eva, | 0:35:21 | 0:35:23 | |
Johnny, Remember Me. | 0:35:23 | 0:35:26 | |
I remember exactly where I was and the minute I heard it. | 0:35:33 | 0:35:37 | |
I remember, when I was 15, I was a bit of a late developer. | 0:35:37 | 0:35:42 | |
My first proper "girlfriend", | 0:35:42 | 0:35:44 | |
I remember waiting for her on the steps of the Theatre Royal, in Winchester, | 0:35:44 | 0:35:49 | |
and...she didn't show up. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:52 | |
And um...I got jilted. | 0:35:52 | 0:35:56 | |
# Your baby doesn't love you any more...# | 0:35:56 | 0:36:01 | |
The next day, I went and bought Roy Orbison's It's Over. | 0:36:01 | 0:36:05 | |
CHUCKLING | 0:36:05 | 0:36:06 | |
And I took it and I played it in my bedroom over and over and over | 0:36:06 | 0:36:10 | |
until it was completely worn out, feeling desperately sorry for myself. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:14 | |
But, I mean, "Golden days before the end, whisper secrets to the wind, | 0:36:14 | 0:36:18 | |
"your baby doesn't love you any more." | 0:36:18 | 0:36:20 | |
And you're going, "Oh, my God, yeah. I feel just like him." | 0:36:20 | 0:36:23 | |
# Golden days before the end | 0:36:23 | 0:36:28 | |
# Whisper secrets to the wind... # | 0:36:28 | 0:36:31 | |
People like the Everly Brothers and Roy Orbison made it cool | 0:36:31 | 0:36:35 | |
for a guy to be able to cry over a record. | 0:36:35 | 0:36:38 | |
# ..Doesn't love you any more... # | 0:36:38 | 0:36:43 | |
The emotions that are described are quite often stronger emotions than you maybe have experienced yourself | 0:36:43 | 0:36:47 | |
or they spoke to you about things | 0:36:47 | 0:36:49 | |
that were wider than your immediate environment, | 0:36:49 | 0:36:52 | |
they invited you out into that big world. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:56 | |
MUSIC: "I'm Not In Love" by 10CC | 0:36:56 | 0:36:59 | |
But, by the '70s, some male emotions on the single | 0:37:01 | 0:37:05 | |
were a little more in check. | 0:37:05 | 0:37:07 | |
WHISPERING: Be quiet. Big boys don't cry. Big boys don't cry. | 0:37:07 | 0:37:11 | |
Big boys don't cry... | 0:37:11 | 0:37:14 | |
# I'm not in love | 0:37:14 | 0:37:18 | |
# So don't forget it | 0:37:18 | 0:37:22 | |
# It's just a silly phase I'm going through... # | 0:37:22 | 0:37:26 | |
None of us realised the commercial potential of it. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:30 | |
We just thought it was a great track. | 0:37:30 | 0:37:32 | |
# And just because I call you up... # | 0:37:32 | 0:37:34 | |
We developed this way of doing these 250 odd voices | 0:37:34 | 0:37:39 | |
that became one of the main hallmarks of the record. | 0:37:39 | 0:37:43 | |
# I'm not in love, no, no | 0:37:43 | 0:37:47 | |
# It's because... # | 0:37:49 | 0:37:51 | |
Of course, also, we knew when to stop. | 0:37:51 | 0:37:54 | |
Part of the art is in saying, "It's done." | 0:37:54 | 0:37:58 | |
Walk away from the tape machine, sir. | 0:37:59 | 0:38:01 | |
# Ooh, you'll wait a long time for me | 0:38:01 | 0:38:05 | |
# Ooh, you'll wait a long time. # | 0:38:07 | 0:38:11 | |
I used to number them. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:18 | |
So this is the 20th record that I ever bought, | 0:38:18 | 0:38:20 | |
Monochrome Set, He's Frank. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:22 | |
-Do you want to hear it? -Yeah, yeah. | 0:38:22 | 0:38:25 | |
MUSIC PLAYS | 0:38:25 | 0:38:30 | |
In 1976, when things got angry, it was the single, and not the album, | 0:38:30 | 0:38:36 | |
that best expressed the blank generation's rage and frustration. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:40 | |
Everything becomes short and sharp. | 0:38:40 | 0:38:43 | |
And so, the single is the absolutely ideal form for punk. | 0:38:43 | 0:38:47 | |
It's a blurt or a shout. | 0:38:50 | 0:38:53 | |
It felt like just the right form | 0:38:58 | 0:39:01 | |
for this new scale and speed of life. | 0:39:01 | 0:39:07 | |
I mean, I kind of came of age during punk rock | 0:39:13 | 0:39:16 | |
and that was a great time for the 7" single, and for vinyl junkies and for picture sleeves, | 0:39:16 | 0:39:21 | |
and for independent record labels. | 0:39:21 | 0:39:23 | |
It was all about the single. | 0:39:23 | 0:39:26 | |
Albums were for hippies | 0:39:26 | 0:39:27 | |
who want to sit around and smoke weed and talk about it. | 0:39:27 | 0:39:30 | |
The 7" single, you put it on, dance to it, pogo to it and put another one on. | 0:39:30 | 0:39:34 | |
# White riot I wanna riot | 0:39:43 | 0:39:45 | |
# White riot A riot of my own | 0:39:45 | 0:39:47 | |
# White riot I wanna riot | 0:39:47 | 0:39:49 | |
# White riot A riot of my own... # | 0:39:49 | 0:39:51 | |
Part of the joy of the single has always been the primitive ritual | 0:39:51 | 0:39:54 | |
of putting it on - an ancient physical activity far removed | 0:39:54 | 0:39:58 | |
from the quick click of the download, or the iPod Shuffle. | 0:39:58 | 0:40:02 | |
There is something exciting about holding that 45 | 0:40:02 | 0:40:06 | |
and putting the needle, | 0:40:06 | 0:40:11 | |
diamond, of course, a diamond needle on the recording. | 0:40:11 | 0:40:14 | |
It was, it was a tangible, exciting feeling. | 0:40:14 | 0:40:19 | |
The arm with the needle. | 0:40:19 | 0:40:21 | |
# Listen to the rhythm of the falling rain | 0:40:23 | 0:40:27 | |
# Telling me just what a fool I've been... # | 0:40:27 | 0:40:30 | |
Dropping the needle on, | 0:40:30 | 0:40:32 | |
making sure you hit the right place so you didn't go too late, | 0:40:32 | 0:40:34 | |
you know, flipping it over, | 0:40:34 | 0:40:36 | |
miming to it in your bedroom. | 0:40:36 | 0:40:39 | |
If filled your head. | 0:40:39 | 0:40:41 | |
I'd sit in my bedroom with piles of singles | 0:40:45 | 0:40:47 | |
and just learn them, and putting the needle on and off the record, learning the chords, | 0:40:47 | 0:40:51 | |
trying to write down the lyrics off the record. It was the only way | 0:40:51 | 0:40:55 | |
you could get the lyrics, off the record. | 0:40:55 | 0:40:57 | |
You could stuck seven singles up on the Dansette record player | 0:40:57 | 0:41:02 | |
and one would drop down and play | 0:41:02 | 0:41:06 | |
and then, the next one would drop down and play | 0:41:06 | 0:41:08 | |
and there was something amazing about that, | 0:41:08 | 0:41:11 | |
something mechanical, yet magical. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:13 | |
I like the mechanics of it, | 0:41:13 | 0:41:15 | |
that you actually watch something going around a bit, you know. | 0:41:15 | 0:41:18 | |
I must be just simple or something like that, I think. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:21 | |
But it's... I quite like the fact | 0:41:21 | 0:41:24 | |
that you can physically watch something going round | 0:41:24 | 0:41:27 | |
from where music is coming out. | 0:41:27 | 0:41:28 | |
I've had enough of that. | 0:41:28 | 0:41:30 | |
It always sounds like old codgers are being nostalgic about, but it's a historical fact. | 0:41:32 | 0:41:36 | |
That's how you got your music - | 0:41:36 | 0:41:37 | |
you dropped a crappy little needle on a record | 0:41:37 | 0:41:40 | |
that was already a little wobbly, | 0:41:40 | 0:41:41 | |
and it went boo-boo, boo-boo, and you'd go on. | 0:41:41 | 0:41:44 | |
This is a tune. | 0:41:44 | 0:41:47 | |
To be able to put a single down on a turntable and drop the needle, | 0:41:47 | 0:41:50 | |
this is a beautiful thing, you know. I always... | 0:41:50 | 0:41:53 | |
I think parents really need to have that moment with their children | 0:41:53 | 0:41:56 | |
and show them how to do that. It's too beautiful to pass. | 0:41:56 | 0:41:59 | |
It's almost like saying I never took my kids to a movie theatre. | 0:41:59 | 0:42:02 | |
I like the idea of the record nerd. | 0:42:02 | 0:42:05 | |
We are going to play some, spin some discs tonight, children. | 0:42:05 | 0:42:08 | |
Come on, kids. | 0:42:08 | 0:42:09 | |
And then going, "Oh! I remember this, this is fantastic!" | 0:42:09 | 0:42:13 | |
Not a lot of people...you know. | 0:42:13 | 0:42:15 | |
And there's record covers and things all over the shop. | 0:42:15 | 0:42:19 | |
My kids still play them. | 0:42:19 | 0:42:21 | |
A lot of their friends come round and they're freaked out | 0:42:21 | 0:42:24 | |
when they see a record on a turntable. | 0:42:24 | 0:42:27 | |
They say, "What the hell is that?" | 0:42:27 | 0:42:28 | |
I mean, the funny thing is, you know, | 0:42:32 | 0:42:33 | |
some of the happiest moments of my entire life on this planet | 0:42:33 | 0:42:36 | |
have been spent finding, looking through records | 0:42:36 | 0:42:39 | |
and eventually going, "Ah! I've have got it!" | 0:42:39 | 0:42:42 | |
You know, that kind of eureka moment. | 0:42:42 | 0:42:44 | |
Ah... | 0:42:44 | 0:42:46 | |
Sad, I know, but... | 0:42:46 | 0:42:48 | |
-HE LAUGHS -But it's true, you know. | 0:42:48 | 0:42:51 | |
I mean, part of the charm was, | 0:42:52 | 0:42:54 | |
I even liked the scratchiness on the 45s. | 0:42:54 | 0:42:56 | |
Gggrrrr! | 0:42:56 | 0:42:58 | |
And the needle. It's like foreplay, you know, | 0:42:58 | 0:43:01 | |
you hear the noise, "Gggrrr," and you know something good is coming. | 0:43:01 | 0:43:05 | |
# Don't ever lose your temper | 0:43:05 | 0:43:07 | |
# When you've been out all night drinking booze... # | 0:43:07 | 0:43:10 | |
Good advice - "Don't ever lose your temper | 0:43:10 | 0:43:12 | |
"when you've been out all night drinking booze." | 0:43:12 | 0:43:15 | |
-HE LAUGHS -I'll remember that one. | 0:43:15 | 0:43:18 | |
I mean, I hear a tune, I'd play that tune 25 times. | 0:43:18 | 0:43:22 | |
I mean, everybody walks out of the room, I'm still like that kid in my bedroom | 0:43:22 | 0:43:25 | |
that gets a record and just plays it and plays it and plays it. | 0:43:25 | 0:43:28 | |
We had a box gramophone and I sort of camped out beside it. | 0:43:28 | 0:43:34 | |
I just remember spending as much time beside it as I possibly could | 0:43:34 | 0:43:38 | |
and then, as soon as I could, because no-one else seemed interested, | 0:43:38 | 0:43:41 | |
lugging it off to my bedroom. | 0:43:41 | 0:43:44 | |
7" to me is, you know, really involved... | 0:43:45 | 0:43:49 | |
On an album, you can put an album on, | 0:43:49 | 0:43:51 | |
drop the needle, have a cup of tea, walk around, talk a little bit. | 0:43:51 | 0:43:56 | |
A 45, I always picture it you sort of like, you know, | 0:43:56 | 0:43:59 | |
kneel down on a carpet | 0:43:59 | 0:44:01 | |
and you put it on and you're listening to just that song, | 0:44:01 | 0:44:04 | |
which is very reverential. | 0:44:04 | 0:44:06 | |
Singles, to be really effective, | 0:44:06 | 0:44:08 | |
do have to have a little bit of sort of cultural impact, you know. | 0:44:08 | 0:44:13 | |
Somehow, they resonate with people at that particular point in time. | 0:44:13 | 0:44:18 | |
Few singles are as timely as that of one-hit-wonders The Buggles. | 0:44:21 | 0:44:27 | |
In 79, you could feel that a lot of things were about to change, | 0:44:28 | 0:44:32 | |
and I could feel that. | 0:44:32 | 0:44:33 | |
# I heard you on the wireless back in '52 | 0:44:33 | 0:44:37 | |
# Lying awake intent at tuning in on you | 0:44:37 | 0:44:41 | |
# If I was young, it didn't stop you coming through... # | 0:44:41 | 0:44:45 | |
When Video Killed The Radio Star was going to be released, | 0:44:45 | 0:44:49 | |
they weren't going to make a video and then, suddenly, they were. | 0:44:49 | 0:44:52 | |
# Video killed the radio star | 0:44:56 | 0:45:00 | |
# In my mind and in my car... # | 0:45:00 | 0:45:02 | |
I loved the start of it. | 0:45:02 | 0:45:03 | |
I thought the whole start was quite iconic. I hated the rest of it | 0:45:03 | 0:45:07 | |
and still do to this day, kind of. Cos I think I look like a dick. | 0:45:07 | 0:45:11 | |
# ..Put the blame on VTR. # | 0:45:11 | 0:45:17 | |
7" vinyl supremacy was now under threat, | 0:45:22 | 0:45:26 | |
both from future systems and from a new consumer lifestyle | 0:45:26 | 0:45:30 | |
that preached the politics of plenty, | 0:45:30 | 0:45:33 | |
far removed from the scarcity of the early '50s. | 0:45:33 | 0:45:36 | |
Singles weren't just 45s any more. | 0:45:36 | 0:45:39 | |
Now, we had pop promos, in-car music systems, | 0:45:39 | 0:45:42 | |
cassettes and something called The Walkman. | 0:45:42 | 0:45:45 | |
The brand name Walkman. | 0:45:47 | 0:45:49 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:45:49 | 0:45:51 | |
You know, that was fantastic, you know - the headphones | 0:45:51 | 0:45:54 | |
and getting killed crossing the road | 0:45:54 | 0:45:57 | |
because you couldn't hear what was going on. | 0:45:57 | 0:45:59 | |
Yeah, what an amazing development for mankind(!) | 0:45:59 | 0:46:04 | |
But The Walkman's ultimate achievement was to send everyone | 0:46:07 | 0:46:10 | |
back to their favourite singles, | 0:46:10 | 0:46:12 | |
so they could be with them anytime, anywhere. | 0:46:12 | 0:46:15 | |
Walkmans were quite a big part of our lives, really. | 0:46:15 | 0:46:19 | |
There were quite a big deal. The fact that you could take, you know, take all these records, | 0:46:19 | 0:46:23 | |
put them on a tape, illegally, and then put them in your Walkman | 0:46:23 | 0:46:27 | |
and go off and listen to them on the bus was big deal. | 0:46:27 | 0:46:30 | |
Cassettes were nice to love | 0:46:31 | 0:46:34 | |
if it was a mixed tape that somebody else had made you. | 0:46:34 | 0:46:38 | |
If you're going out with someone, | 0:46:38 | 0:46:40 | |
the first thing you do is you make a mixed tape for them. | 0:46:40 | 0:46:42 | |
And then you'd find out a lot about them because of their taste in music. | 0:46:42 | 0:46:46 | |
I, being a record collector, could always impress the girls with my mixed tapes. | 0:46:50 | 0:46:53 | |
The idea always was that you did a seduction tape. | 0:46:53 | 0:46:56 | |
So you started off with something quite dancy, | 0:46:56 | 0:46:58 | |
and then, you slowed it down to the end. | 0:46:58 | 0:47:00 | |
And then, maybe, maybe go a bit jiggy. | 0:47:00 | 0:47:03 | |
By 1984, the opportunities for the single seemed limitless. | 0:47:08 | 0:47:12 | |
But for Holly Johnson, it was still THE defining form. | 0:47:18 | 0:47:23 | |
I thought it was important | 0:47:23 | 0:47:25 | |
to disregard every other single that had ever been made. | 0:47:25 | 0:47:30 | |
Forget The Beatles, forget David Bowie, this is going to be it. | 0:47:32 | 0:47:36 | |
There is an aspect of that, although you admire those people that love them. | 0:47:36 | 0:47:40 | |
As soon as you go to make a single, | 0:47:40 | 0:47:43 | |
you're putting yourself on the same ladder as them, you know. | 0:47:43 | 0:47:48 | |
And this ladder stretches all the way to heaven. | 0:47:48 | 0:47:51 | |
# Relax, don't do it When you want to go to it | 0:47:51 | 0:47:56 | |
# Relax, don't do it When you want to come | 0:47:56 | 0:48:00 | |
# Relax, don't do it When you want to suck, do it | 0:48:00 | 0:48:04 | |
# Relax, don't do it... # | 0:48:04 | 0:48:06 | |
Paul Morley and Trevor Horn at ZTT Records | 0:48:06 | 0:48:09 | |
also had big '80s plans for the single. | 0:48:09 | 0:48:12 | |
Multiple remixes... | 0:48:12 | 0:48:14 | |
of the same song. | 0:48:14 | 0:48:16 | |
I like the idea that you could take a song, a single, | 0:48:16 | 0:48:19 | |
and for a while it could become a whole sort of superstructure, in a way. | 0:48:19 | 0:48:23 | |
HE CHUCKLES | 0:48:23 | 0:48:24 | |
Oh, look, it's got the same picture on either side, that's interesting. | 0:48:24 | 0:48:28 | |
So there's the 7" with a great picture sleeve. | 0:48:28 | 0:48:31 | |
There's this ludicrous 12" version of it, | 0:48:31 | 0:48:33 | |
that is almost like a kind of uncut version. | 0:48:33 | 0:48:35 | |
Some of the sound effects on the 12", on the sex mix, were quite vulgar, | 0:48:44 | 0:48:47 | |
because I'd been using vegetables and a bottle of water. | 0:48:47 | 0:48:51 | |
I don't know what was in my head at the time. Well, I do, but I'm not going to tell you. | 0:48:51 | 0:48:56 | |
The guy that was running Island kept ringing me up and saying, "Can you do me another mix? | 0:48:59 | 0:49:03 | |
"I'd like to keep it at number one for another week, you now." | 0:49:03 | 0:49:07 | |
People would go into record shops, they'd buy two 12" and a single | 0:49:07 | 0:49:13 | |
and a cassette, you know, and they'd all be of the same record. | 0:49:13 | 0:49:16 | |
So what had the single become? | 0:49:19 | 0:49:21 | |
The single is just a receptacle for the song, really. | 0:49:21 | 0:49:25 | |
And that's why I think it's so intense and important | 0:49:25 | 0:49:31 | |
that it's your essence as an artist instilled into that one thing. | 0:49:31 | 0:49:38 | |
With Frankie's follow-up Two Tribes, | 0:49:41 | 0:49:43 | |
ZTT produced so many versions of the single | 0:49:43 | 0:49:47 | |
that the industry was forced to step into the ring | 0:49:47 | 0:49:49 | |
to create some new rules to protect the number one position. | 0:49:49 | 0:49:53 | |
# When two tribes go to war | 0:49:53 | 0:49:54 | |
# A point is all that you can score | 0:49:54 | 0:49:58 | |
# Score no more, score no more | 0:49:58 | 0:50:00 | |
# When two tribes go to war | 0:50:00 | 0:50:02 | |
# A point is all that you can score | 0:50:02 | 0:50:05 | |
# Working for the bad guys | 0:50:05 | 0:50:07 | |
# Cowboy number one... # | 0:50:07 | 0:50:08 | |
We did like seven mixes, | 0:50:08 | 0:50:11 | |
which kept us at number one for nine weeks | 0:50:11 | 0:50:14 | |
cos every week you went out and you bought a new version of Two Tribes. | 0:50:14 | 0:50:17 | |
The boys in the backroom were cobbling together, | 0:50:20 | 0:50:24 | |
yet another 12" mix to extend the life of the record. | 0:50:24 | 0:50:30 | |
# When two tribes go to war... # | 0:50:33 | 0:50:35 | |
I think we've got up to 75 minutes or something, if you put all the Two Tribes together. | 0:50:35 | 0:50:39 | |
# Score no more, score no more | 0:50:39 | 0:50:40 | |
# When two tribes go to war A point is all that you can... # | 0:50:40 | 0:50:43 | |
But we still clung really faithfully to the idea of the excitement of the single. | 0:50:43 | 0:50:49 | |
# Respectable | 0:50:53 | 0:50:55 | |
# Respectable, respectable | 0:50:56 | 0:50:59 | |
# Respectable | 0:50:59 | 0:51:01 | |
# Tay, tay, tay, tay... # | 0:51:01 | 0:51:04 | |
Pete Waterman's passion for the single prompted him | 0:51:04 | 0:51:07 | |
to set-up an '80s-style hit factory | 0:51:07 | 0:51:08 | |
to corner a market that the mainstream record industry thought, even then, was in its death throes. | 0:51:08 | 0:51:15 | |
-Oh! -Another one. -Oh, oh! | 0:51:15 | 0:51:18 | |
No, no, wait a minute, you just... | 0:51:18 | 0:51:20 | |
I mean, the point is absolutely spot on. | 0:51:20 | 0:51:24 | |
If you are a singles and the single is the thing that drives you | 0:51:24 | 0:51:28 | |
by Christ, have you given yourself a task. | 0:51:28 | 0:51:30 | |
Back in '84, '85, everybody told me the single's dead. | 0:51:32 | 0:51:37 | |
Everybody. I mean all my mates thought I was nuts. | 0:51:41 | 0:51:43 | |
I went, "Nah! The record industry don't want it, I'll have it." | 0:51:46 | 0:51:49 | |
# It's easier than learning your ABCs | 0:51:49 | 0:51:52 | |
# So come on, come on Do the locomotion | 0:51:52 | 0:51:56 | |
# Come on, come on Do the locomotion | 0:51:56 | 0:52:00 | |
# Come on, come on Do the locomotion with me... # | 0:52:00 | 0:52:04 | |
I've had fights like you can't believe with artists, | 0:52:04 | 0:52:07 | |
You go, "This is your next single", they go, "I don't like it." | 0:52:07 | 0:52:10 | |
I don't care what you like. | 0:52:10 | 0:52:13 | |
We're in the record industry here, you know, the fans want this. | 0:52:13 | 0:52:17 | |
But, by 1987, the record industry had been invaded by small shiny things. | 0:52:17 | 0:52:23 | |
CDs, they were just a little bit insipid. | 0:52:23 | 0:52:26 | |
They were kind of, there were just all shine and no substance. | 0:52:26 | 0:52:30 | |
They claimed to be indestructible | 0:52:33 | 0:52:36 | |
and they patently weren't. | 0:52:36 | 0:52:38 | |
This should be it, let's see how it sounds. | 0:52:40 | 0:52:43 | |
SCRATCHY SOUND | 0:52:43 | 0:52:47 | |
The CD, I just pick it up, chuck it in, you know... | 0:52:51 | 0:52:55 | |
it gets swallowed into a machine, | 0:52:55 | 0:52:57 | |
you don't get to see it going round. | 0:52:57 | 0:52:59 | |
Yeah, it's....kind of, it becomes more impersonal. | 0:52:59 | 0:53:04 | |
Forget the CD single, Norman. You need something much bigger. | 0:53:04 | 0:53:07 | |
By the '90s, it was the 12" vinyl single | 0:53:12 | 0:53:14 | |
that was the darling of the dance floor and the DJ. | 0:53:14 | 0:53:18 | |
You put your hand in like that, | 0:53:18 | 0:53:20 | |
you take it out without touching, only touching the label. | 0:53:20 | 0:53:22 | |
Then, if you're looking at it, you hold the edge and you spin it like that. | 0:53:22 | 0:53:25 | |
And you kind of... This bit is sacred, the grooves are sacred. | 0:53:25 | 0:53:29 | |
You couldn't even scratch with a 7" single. Or could you? | 0:53:29 | 0:53:34 | |
Interestingly enough, | 0:53:34 | 0:53:36 | |
here is a 7" single that I wanted to scratch, | 0:53:36 | 0:53:39 | |
you glue it onto a 12" that you don't like very much | 0:53:39 | 0:53:44 | |
and you still control the edge of it. | 0:53:44 | 0:53:46 | |
The 12" would simply be all the elements that were in the single, | 0:53:51 | 0:53:54 | |
so, you know, the piano and a kind of beat and maybe a bit of guitar and vocals, | 0:53:54 | 0:54:00 | |
which will arrive all at once in the single. | 0:54:00 | 0:54:02 | |
It would start over here and then 12 bars later, in would come the next bit. | 0:54:02 | 0:54:05 | |
And I kind of think, "Well, that's just rubbish. I may as well have the single, really." | 0:54:05 | 0:54:08 | |
For younger generations oblivious to the power of the single, | 0:54:08 | 0:54:13 | |
its ability to define a career, even in the 21st century, | 0:54:13 | 0:54:16 | |
can come as a surprise. | 0:54:16 | 0:54:18 | |
# I waited till I saw the sun | 0:54:18 | 0:54:24 | |
# I don't know why I didn't come | 0:54:24 | 0:54:30 | |
# I left you by the house of fun... # | 0:54:30 | 0:54:34 | |
I don't know, I'm not the greatest person | 0:54:34 | 0:54:36 | |
for a singles interview, probably, cos I don't listen to singles. | 0:54:36 | 0:54:40 | |
I don't listen to the radio because there's not, you know, | 0:54:40 | 0:54:42 | |
stuff on it that I want to hear all the time. | 0:54:42 | 0:54:46 | |
# ..When I saw the break of day... # | 0:54:46 | 0:54:50 | |
The fact that Don't Know Why became a big single was kind of crazy for me, | 0:54:50 | 0:54:55 | |
because I didn't grow up buying singles the way some people did. | 0:54:55 | 0:54:58 | |
I remember getting kind of sick of playing it and thinking, | 0:54:59 | 0:55:02 | |
"Why can't we do another song on this TV show? | 0:55:02 | 0:55:04 | |
"Why don't they want to hear something else?" | 0:55:04 | 0:55:06 | |
And so, the concept kind of took a while to sink in for me, | 0:55:06 | 0:55:10 | |
of having a single. | 0:55:10 | 0:55:12 | |
# I don't know why | 0:55:12 | 0:55:15 | |
# I didn't come. # | 0:55:15 | 0:55:19 | |
I think nowadays people still buy individual songs, | 0:55:20 | 0:55:23 | |
but they don't necessarily buy only the single. | 0:55:23 | 0:55:26 | |
They can have access to the whole album and buy whatever songs they want to buy. | 0:55:26 | 0:55:30 | |
So I guess that's the biggest difference about today versus when people used to buy the 7" inch. | 0:55:30 | 0:55:36 | |
Cos that's all that was available at the time. | 0:55:36 | 0:55:38 | |
MUSIC PLAYS | 0:55:38 | 0:55:43 | |
You're in straight away. | 0:55:44 | 0:55:46 | |
When you offer people the choice, | 0:55:48 | 0:55:51 | |
of just downloading a single track, you know what they do? | 0:55:51 | 0:55:54 | |
They take the single track for 40p. | 0:55:54 | 0:55:57 | |
Because that's what we all are, we're all single buyers in truth. | 0:55:57 | 0:56:02 | |
I'd quite happily pay a few quid for that, you know what I mean? | 0:56:02 | 0:56:05 | |
Fair exchange is not robbery, you know. | 0:56:05 | 0:56:08 | |
I mean, it's definitely my age, | 0:56:10 | 0:56:12 | |
but I'm just not daft enough to just pay over money | 0:56:12 | 0:56:14 | |
for something that don't physically exists. | 0:56:14 | 0:56:16 | |
You know what I mean? It just seems to be...like you're a muppet, a right mug. | 0:56:16 | 0:56:21 | |
Not having a tangible item that you can touch, just having it virally. | 0:56:26 | 0:56:33 | |
It's not the same. It's not the same | 0:56:36 | 0:56:39 | |
as owning it, touching it, | 0:56:39 | 0:56:42 | |
putting it on the turntable. | 0:56:42 | 0:56:44 | |
That's it. | 0:56:44 | 0:56:46 | |
Downloading songs has helped to retain | 0:56:49 | 0:56:52 | |
something of the idea of the single, but nothing of its physical reality. | 0:56:52 | 0:56:56 | |
The 7" vinyl 45 as an object is now an expensive relic. | 0:56:56 | 0:57:02 | |
And the yearning and the nostalgia for the single | 0:57:02 | 0:57:05 | |
is part of an overall, deep nostalgic sickness. | 0:57:05 | 0:57:08 | |
The physical states and objects are disappearing, | 0:57:08 | 0:57:12 | |
and being replaced with other things. | 0:57:12 | 0:57:14 | |
At first, when that happened, | 0:57:18 | 0:57:21 | |
I would wake up at night worried about where the record was. | 0:57:21 | 0:57:25 | |
Where is it? | 0:57:25 | 0:57:27 | |
You know, I've done all this work on it. Where does it exist? | 0:57:30 | 0:57:33 | |
Out of a kind of a fear, | 0:57:36 | 0:57:38 | |
we're clinging even though the 7" doesn't exist any more | 0:57:38 | 0:57:41 | |
to 7" shapes and lengths and the same with the album. | 0:57:41 | 0:57:43 | |
People still release album-sized collection of songs, | 0:57:43 | 0:57:46 | |
even though the thing itself is gone. | 0:57:46 | 0:57:49 | |
There's no point in really owning music | 0:57:53 | 0:57:57 | |
and investing in something like this, | 0:57:57 | 0:58:00 | |
because all of this would now fit on a memory stick this big. | 0:58:00 | 0:58:03 | |
But a memory stick isn't able to hold real memories, | 0:58:05 | 0:58:09 | |
memories that the vinyl 45 has captured | 0:58:09 | 0:58:13 | |
and fixed in our minds for ever. | 0:58:13 | 0:58:16 | |
Everybody remembers their first record. | 0:58:16 | 0:58:17 | |
Everybody remembers their first kiss to their first record. | 0:58:17 | 0:58:21 | |
Everybody has these memories. | 0:58:21 | 0:58:23 | |
They're ingrained in us all, | 0:58:23 | 0:58:26 | |
everybody knows what was the first one they went out | 0:58:26 | 0:58:28 | |
and bought with their first pocket money or whatever. | 0:58:28 | 0:58:31 | |
There's lots of reasons why you remember certain records, | 0:58:31 | 0:58:34 | |
they're snapshots. | 0:58:34 | 0:58:36 | |
Instead of photographs of time, they're snapshots of time. | 0:58:36 | 0:58:39 | |
These great songs that were singles, they float off into the universe | 0:58:45 | 0:58:48 | |
and they become the history of this planet, so that when we die out, | 0:58:48 | 0:58:51 | |
if anybody wants to know what happened to our civilisation, | 0:58:51 | 0:58:54 | |
they just listen to great singles and they'll be able to piece it all together. | 0:58:54 | 0:58:58 | |
You're going to kick me out now, aren't you? THEY LAUGH | 0:58:58 | 0:59:01 | |
# I see a red door and I want to paint it black | 0:59:04 | 0:59:10 | |
# No colours any more I want them to turn black... # | 0:59:10 | 0:59:15 | |
Subtitles by Red Bee Media Ltd | 0:59:15 | 0:59:18 |