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# Yesterdays, days I knew As happy, sweet sequestered days... # | 0:00:05 | 0:00:12 | |
-That's my key. -Like that better? -I got to work on it. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:16 | |
# Olden days, golden days | 0:00:16 | 0:00:20 | |
# Days of happiness and love... # | 0:00:20 | 0:00:24 | |
Your personal experiences include rape, | 0:00:40 | 0:00:43 | |
abortion, jail, heroin addiction... | 0:00:43 | 0:00:46 | |
'That's just the way it went down, Bryant.' | 0:00:46 | 0:00:48 | |
# Don't the moon look lonesome Shinin' through the trees | 0:00:51 | 0:00:56 | |
# Don't the moon look lonesome Shinin' through the trees | 0:00:56 | 0:01:02 | |
# Don't your arms look lonesome When your baby packs up to leave | 0:01:02 | 0:01:07 | |
# Well, I'm goin' up on the mountain To call that baby of mine | 0:01:07 | 0:01:13 | |
# Well, I'm goin' up on the mountain To call that baby of mine | 0:01:13 | 0:01:19 | |
# But something tells me He's not coming back this time | 0:01:19 | 0:01:24 | |
# Well, I could go up to the country Baby, can't take you | 0:01:24 | 0:01:29 | |
# I'm goin' up to the country Can't take you | 0:01:29 | 0:01:34 | |
# Nothin' up there A man like you could do-o-o | 0:01:36 | 0:01:41 | |
# He's got a face like a fish | 0:01:41 | 0:01:43 | |
# Shape like a frog | 0:01:43 | 0:01:45 | |
# When he loves me I holler ooh, hot dog | 0:01:45 | 0:01:48 | |
# Love that man better than I do myself | 0:01:48 | 0:01:53 | |
# But he left me all alone All alone on the shelf... # | 0:01:53 | 0:01:58 | |
SHE SCATS | 0:02:11 | 0:02:13 | |
This is the story about a woman who wanted to be a jazz singer | 0:02:31 | 0:02:34 | |
and refused to let anything stop her. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:36 | |
She started singing at the age of 12 | 0:02:36 | 0:02:38 | |
for coins thrown on a dance floor. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:40 | |
She just barely made enough money to pay the rent as a band singer, | 0:02:40 | 0:02:43 | |
a canary, in the '40s. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:45 | |
She had two bad marriages and was a heroin addict for 15 years. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:50 | |
She survived all that to become one of the world's great jazz singers. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:53 | |
We can hear most of you saying Anita who? | 0:02:53 | 0:02:56 | |
But among jazz musicians, | 0:02:56 | 0:02:57 | |
she is considered one of a handful of great singers. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:00 | |
Critic Leonard Feather agrees. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:01 | |
There are four basic elements | 0:03:01 | 0:03:04 | |
that go into a great jazz vocal performance. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:07 | |
One is the singer's tone quality, | 0:03:07 | 0:03:09 | |
or timbre, the individual tone and sound of the voice, | 0:03:09 | 0:03:12 | |
another is the phrasing, | 0:03:12 | 0:03:14 | |
the extent to which he or she has the jazz feeling. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:17 | |
A third element is the choice of accompanying musicians, | 0:03:17 | 0:03:20 | |
another one is the choice of material. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:23 | |
# It's not the pale moon | 0:03:23 | 0:03:26 | |
# That excites me | 0:03:26 | 0:03:29 | |
# That thrills and delights me | 0:03:29 | 0:03:35 | |
# Oh, no, oh-oh-oh-oh | 0:03:35 | 0:03:40 | |
# It's just the nearness of you. # | 0:03:40 | 0:03:46 | |
-Pretty, Anita. -Nice tune. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:49 | |
Billie Holiday, who to me was the greatest female jazz singer | 0:03:49 | 0:03:53 | |
of all time, had all those elements, Ella Fitzgerald has them, | 0:03:53 | 0:03:56 | |
Sarah Vaughn has them, | 0:03:56 | 0:03:58 | |
Carmen McCray has them and Anita O'Day has them. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:01 | |
# Sweet Georgia Brown | 0:04:01 | 0:04:03 | |
-And that's to you, folks. -You have a good day. Great to see you. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:20 | |
Thank you. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:21 | |
-(COUNTER CLERK) -Hey, Anita. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:23 | |
Give me my bet. I'll take your bet. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:26 | |
Just before he left, he went to the races one day | 0:04:34 | 0:04:37 | |
and played a horse called Anita. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:39 | |
And he come back | 0:04:39 | 0:04:41 | |
and he had some money | 0:04:41 | 0:04:44 | |
and a friend of his had bet him that it wasn't going to win | 0:04:44 | 0:04:46 | |
and it did, and he'd bet him an apartment on the west side. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:50 | |
So we moved in with all the furniture there, a piano was there | 0:04:50 | 0:04:54 | |
and a big round table and he would make beer in the pantry | 0:04:54 | 0:04:57 | |
and have his friends over for poker. | 0:04:57 | 0:05:00 | |
My mother was very strict, she never drank or smoked | 0:05:00 | 0:05:04 | |
and everything was wrong and... just the other side. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:08 | |
I, I don't get into that part. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:10 | |
She was pregnant, you see, and they went to Chicago to get married. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:15 | |
And by the time we came back, I was like, what, | 0:05:15 | 0:05:19 | |
three months old or something like that and everybody was saying, | 0:05:19 | 0:05:21 | |
what a big baby for just being born. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:23 | |
Well, that went around, they used to tell me about that and, eh, | 0:05:23 | 0:05:27 | |
but they were married. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:29 | |
And then they didn't get along, then they got married again, | 0:05:29 | 0:05:31 | |
remember I said 12 times? | 0:05:31 | 0:05:33 | |
Well, he married my mother twice. Oh, he was out there. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:37 | |
But he was a gentleman, he married them. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:40 | |
My mother played piano, my father drank beer | 0:05:40 | 0:05:42 | |
and we'd get a harmony going. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:44 | |
That's how we got into singing. I'd hold my ears to sing the melody, | 0:05:44 | 0:05:47 | |
# Moonlight and roses. # | 0:05:47 | 0:05:50 | |
INTERVIEWER LAUGHS | 0:05:50 | 0:05:51 | |
And my father was like a tenor, my mother a baritone | 0:05:51 | 0:05:54 | |
and she'd ting, ting, ting, ting. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:56 | |
And that's the start, | 0:05:56 | 0:05:58 | |
never knowing I was ever going to, you know, get into it. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:00 | |
I got O'Day from pig Latin. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:03 | |
Like I, you say, a, can you n-kay oo-yay alk-tay ig-pay atin-lay? | 0:06:03 | 0:06:09 | |
You know, and on and on and on and | 0:06:09 | 0:06:12 | |
when it finally comes down to the name, you talk and you talk, and say | 0:06:12 | 0:06:15 | |
O'Day and you might make some. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:17 | |
O'Day, Anita O'Day, like Anita makes music, makes music and O'Day. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:23 | |
Those marathon walkathons, tell me about that. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:27 | |
Oh, I was in those when I was about 14. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:29 | |
-What did you do? -I walked. That's right. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:33 | |
And that's where I met Red Skelton, who was an MC at the show | 0:06:33 | 0:06:38 | |
and Frankie Laine was a contestant, | 0:06:38 | 0:06:40 | |
not my partner, but a contestant in one of the shows. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:43 | |
And we would just walk around and whoever walks the longest wins. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:47 | |
I was very young, though. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:49 | |
Well, I hitchhiked down there, | 0:06:49 | 0:06:52 | |
I was in one 3,228 hours, came in second! | 0:06:52 | 0:06:55 | |
Oh, well, ta-da-da. | 0:06:57 | 0:06:59 | |
One of the times I'm walking around, | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
the Lord was standing beside me in the long white jacket | 0:07:02 | 0:07:06 | |
and the white hair and he says, "How're you feeling, Anita?" | 0:07:06 | 0:07:09 | |
And I said, "Oh, all right," | 0:07:09 | 0:07:12 | |
and I'm thinking, "What's going on here," you know? | 0:07:12 | 0:07:16 | |
And he says, "What are you going to do with your life?" | 0:07:16 | 0:07:20 | |
"Well, I'd like to sing and entertain the world." | 0:07:20 | 0:07:24 | |
And he said to me, not you got it, but words to that effect, | 0:07:24 | 0:07:28 | |
"All right, Anita, you got it," and he disappeared. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:32 | |
So, every time I go to sing I say, thank you and I make it. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:36 | |
# Thanks for the boogie ride I'm more than gratified | 0:07:37 | 0:07:40 | |
# I'm really satisfied Which only goes to prove | 0:07:40 | 0:07:43 | |
# You don't know until you glide Into the boogie ride | 0:07:43 | 0:07:46 | |
# How quickly you will glide Out of this world. # | 0:07:46 | 0:07:49 | |
Gene came to town and he says, "Hey, Anita, how are you doing?" | 0:07:54 | 0:07:56 | |
He's at the Chicago Theater, he says, "My girl singer's getting married, | 0:07:56 | 0:07:59 | |
"what am I going to do?" He called me, | 0:07:59 | 0:08:00 | |
I went down and there were four people auditioning that day. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:03 | |
I'm drinking to the winner. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:05 | |
# Thank you for the boogie ride It really was great. # | 0:08:05 | 0:08:09 | |
The real Swing Era breakthrough was to | 0:08:09 | 0:08:11 | |
sort of sound relaxed and determined at the same time. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:15 | |
Earlier jazz was really fervent. | 0:08:15 | 0:08:18 | |
Those were the hits for the band. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:23 | |
I was just vocalist. Uptown, Gene bought a house in Yonkers. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:27 | |
INTERVIEWER LAUGHS | 0:08:27 | 0:08:28 | |
Yeah, and I got 7 and 50 cents. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:31 | |
How many people could sing with Gene Krupa | 0:08:31 | 0:08:36 | |
and not walk away with that great feeling of melody | 0:08:36 | 0:08:40 | |
and rhythm. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:43 | |
God knows she sure did. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:47 | |
Gene says, "You can swing, you better come with us." | 0:09:01 | 0:09:05 | |
And I've been doing it ever since. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:07 | |
-Hey, Joe. -What do you mean Joe? My name's Roy. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:13 | |
Well, come here, Roy, and get groovy. You been uptown? | 0:09:13 | 0:09:17 | |
No, I ain't been uptown, but I been around. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:19 | |
You mean to say you ain't been uptown? | 0:09:19 | 0:09:21 | |
No, I haven't been uptown, what's uptown? | 0:09:21 | 0:09:23 | |
# Pleasure you're about | 0:09:23 | 0:09:25 | |
# And you feel like stepping out | 0:09:25 | 0:09:28 | |
# All you've got to shout is let me off uptown! # | 0:09:28 | 0:09:33 | |
Let Me Off Uptown was a classic. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:35 | |
I mean, that will last for ever. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:37 | |
Anita, when she sang with Roy Eldridge, | 0:09:37 | 0:09:39 | |
that in itself was a ground-breaking thing, | 0:09:39 | 0:09:41 | |
to have a white girl sing with a great black artist | 0:09:41 | 0:09:44 | |
like Roy Eldridge. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:45 | |
That had never been heard of, like, you know? | 0:09:45 | 0:09:49 | |
A black guy up there with a white girl, you know in that time, | 0:09:49 | 0:09:53 | |
in those times, you know. | 0:09:53 | 0:09:56 | |
# If you want to pitch a ball | 0:09:56 | 0:09:59 | |
# And you can't afford a hall... # | 0:09:59 | 0:10:01 | |
That raised a lot of heads. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:03 | |
People looked and said, what's going on up there? | 0:10:03 | 0:10:05 | |
This was a time | 0:10:05 | 0:10:06 | |
when the racial problems were pretty high level in the country, | 0:10:06 | 0:10:11 | |
and it was, it was considered, like, that's pretty nice of her | 0:10:11 | 0:10:14 | |
to sing with, she and Roy, to get together and sing a duet. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:17 | |
And I was impressed with that and of course, | 0:10:17 | 0:10:20 | |
the main thing was the way she sang and the way she looked, very pretty. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:24 | |
# All you've got to call is Let me off uptown. # | 0:10:24 | 0:10:29 | |
But that song and when they spoke to each other... | 0:10:29 | 0:10:33 | |
# Anita, oh, Anita... # | 0:10:33 | 0:10:37 | |
Say, I feel something. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:39 | |
What do you feel, Roy, the heat? | 0:10:39 | 0:10:42 | |
No, it ain't the heat, it must be that uptown rhythm... | 0:10:42 | 0:10:45 | |
..because I feel like blowin'. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:49 | |
Well, blo-o-o-w Roy, blow. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:52 | |
He'd go to Gene and complain, she's upstaging me! | 0:10:54 | 0:10:57 | |
She's dancing and everything and I'm out there blowing my brains out | 0:10:57 | 0:11:00 | |
and I'm saying to Gene, man, what am I, | 0:11:00 | 0:11:02 | |
I was just dancing to your rhythm, Gene. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:04 | |
Gene says, it's OK. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:05 | |
Roy was mad as hell at Anita O'Day and, | 0:11:07 | 0:11:10 | |
undoubtedly, you know, they had a... | 0:11:10 | 0:11:13 | |
I guess, at best, a sibling relationship | 0:11:13 | 0:11:15 | |
where there are ups and downs. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:18 | |
But the thing he said, he said, she's pretty slick, he said. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:21 | |
You know, I mean, that's a great song. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:29 | |
I don't know where Gene Krupa really sorted this out | 0:11:34 | 0:11:38 | |
but they went for the jugular of redneck America. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:42 | |
They're most uptight about black men and white women, | 0:11:42 | 0:11:47 | |
or seem to have been. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:49 | |
You know, that they did those stage routines, you know, | 0:11:49 | 0:11:52 | |
they were in physical jeopardy, certainly much more... | 0:11:52 | 0:11:54 | |
Roy Eldridge would be the person to be rode out of town and lynched. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:58 | |
But, you know, you can get caught in crossfire | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
and in a sense, you could be surprised that it happened at all. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:04 | |
I met Anita late '42, early '43 | 0:12:06 | 0:12:09 | |
backstage at the Adams Theater in Newark. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
And I had taken pictures of her. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:14 | |
And I wrote her a little letter and she kept answering me. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:17 | |
She was real excited about it, she had never gotten | 0:12:17 | 0:12:21 | |
a letter from anybody. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:23 | |
And she called me her number one fan. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:27 | |
I would write to her about what was happening in the army | 0:12:27 | 0:12:31 | |
and she would write me back where she was playing | 0:12:31 | 0:12:35 | |
and that went on for about 63 years. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:38 | |
When I was in Panama, she wanted stockings | 0:12:38 | 0:12:41 | |
because there was a shortage of stockings here in the States, | 0:12:41 | 0:12:44 | |
I'd send her a couple pair. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:46 | |
She said she was, she was low on money or something, | 0:12:46 | 0:12:50 | |
I might have sent a couple dollars, it wasn't really that much. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:54 | |
I'll tell you, she could have been a wealthy girl by now | 0:12:54 | 0:12:59 | |
if she didn't get into the mess that she was in. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:02 | |
I was proud to see her in the movie. With the big hat. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:07 | |
She always was different. She was the greatest. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:11 | |
I love Anita. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:13 | |
Yes, I'm still her number one fan! | 0:13:13 | 0:13:15 | |
# Cat, who's that? | 0:13:21 | 0:13:23 | |
# Struttin' by and he looks so wise... # | 0:13:25 | 0:13:28 | |
Stan's band, nobody drank or smoked | 0:13:28 | 0:13:31 | |
and, during breaks, they'd all run out and get some water or... | 0:13:31 | 0:13:34 | |
and they'd read books in-between sets and everything, you know. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:37 | |
Really, the other side, the other side of life, you know. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:42 | |
And then they weren't swinging, really, they were, | 0:13:42 | 0:13:45 | |
dat, dat, dat, dat. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:46 | |
Stan would go, da-ta-da-ta, whatever... The band is holding | 0:13:46 | 0:13:49 | |
this note and he'd look over at me like, when do I cut it off, you know? | 0:13:49 | 0:13:53 | |
If he did it on his own, he'd cut it off at six and seven eighths, | 0:13:53 | 0:13:56 | |
I never heard of it. | 0:13:56 | 0:13:58 | |
But I'd get him to cut it off on four, so I did that for a year, | 0:13:58 | 0:14:02 | |
you know, just trying to be helpful. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:04 | |
# He would spend it on the ponies | 0:14:07 | 0:14:10 | |
# Spend it on the girls... # | 0:14:10 | 0:14:12 | |
And then the band would come in and sing, | 0:14:12 | 0:14:14 | |
# And her tears flowed like wine. # | 0:14:14 | 0:14:16 | |
You know, it was a piece of material. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:18 | |
Corny, novelty, but that's what I did with that band. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:22 | |
After about 11 months, I says to Stan, | 0:14:30 | 0:14:32 | |
"Man, I'm going to have, you know, get out of here for a while. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:35 | |
"Don't forget I was out there with Gene for many years, Stanley, | 0:14:35 | 0:14:38 | |
"and this is enough, already." | 0:14:38 | 0:14:40 | |
He's, "OK, don't leave me without a real singer." | 0:14:40 | 0:14:43 | |
The next engagement was at Chicago Theater, | 0:14:43 | 0:14:46 | |
this is where I come in with Gene, this is where I got out. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:49 | |
Yeah, there's... Boyd Raeburn Band | 0:14:49 | 0:14:51 | |
was working across the street from the theatre and between sets, | 0:14:51 | 0:14:54 | |
for lunch one day, somebody in the band and me, | 0:14:54 | 0:14:57 | |
I forget which one now, we went over and here's this girl singer | 0:14:57 | 0:15:00 | |
and here's this band, everybody eating Chinese food | 0:15:00 | 0:15:02 | |
and the light bulb went on, man. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:04 | |
It was like it was a painted picture just come to life, meant to be. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:08 | |
I went backstage there and I said, "What is your name?" | 0:15:08 | 0:15:10 | |
And she says, "Shirley Luster," and I said, | 0:15:10 | 0:15:12 | |
"Well, how would you like to be rich and famous?" | 0:15:12 | 0:15:15 | |
And over she comes, they meet and she changes her name to June Christy | 0:15:15 | 0:15:18 | |
and the rest is history, yeah. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:21 | |
A famous story about Anita is that, | 0:15:21 | 0:15:24 | |
even back in the '40s when she was still a band singer, | 0:15:24 | 0:15:26 | |
that band singers were always really glamorous creatures | 0:15:26 | 0:15:29 | |
that wore flowing evening gowns and it was very difficult, you know, | 0:15:29 | 0:15:32 | |
for these poor girls to manage this while they were on the road. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:35 | |
You got to be pretty and you got to wear a dress but they don't move. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:38 | |
# Love is a many-splendoured thing... # | 0:15:38 | 0:15:41 | |
She looks gorgeous, she don't move. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:43 | |
And Anita was the first one to insist on just | 0:15:43 | 0:15:46 | |
wearing a regulation band uniform and a skirt, you know, | 0:15:46 | 0:15:49 | |
not to do the full glamour route. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:51 | |
When Gene was doing very well at the Paramount Theater, | 0:15:51 | 0:15:53 | |
he hired a tailor to give them an outfit, two outfits - | 0:15:53 | 0:15:57 | |
one for on the road with green slacks and a chequered jacket and everything | 0:15:57 | 0:16:00 | |
and I just asked him if I could have a skirt and jacket made. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:03 | |
And I set that trend, played it like one of the guys. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:07 | |
She was like one of the guys in the band, | 0:16:07 | 0:16:09 | |
because that was her training. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:11 | |
And she knew how to handle all those kind of situations | 0:16:11 | 0:16:14 | |
where she was the only woman or whatever. But she was fun. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:19 | |
I got to be one of the guys so much I use to have girls waiting for me... | 0:16:19 | 0:16:22 | |
Well, no, too late now...! | 0:16:22 | 0:16:25 | |
Paris, you had to be chic. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:27 | |
So, that became my way of dressing, | 0:16:30 | 0:16:34 | |
as Anita adopted suits. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:37 | |
People don't think of her as being feminine, | 0:16:37 | 0:16:40 | |
because she's always been so tough. But she is so feminine. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:43 | |
She was always beautifully put together, you know, I have to say. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:50 | |
I had an argument with a woman at Iridium, | 0:16:50 | 0:16:55 | |
a fan, | 0:16:55 | 0:16:57 | |
and the woman was commenting on how pretty Anita was. | 0:16:57 | 0:17:01 | |
And she said, ""ell, of course, she's had lots of surgery." | 0:17:01 | 0:17:04 | |
I said, "No, Anita's never had any plastic surgery." | 0:17:04 | 0:17:06 | |
And the woman said, | 0:17:06 | 0:17:07 | |
"Ha-ha, well, if that's the way you want to remember it," you know, | 0:17:07 | 0:17:10 | |
she figured I was being a loyal friend and I said, | 0:17:10 | 0:17:13 | |
"No, it's absolutely true." | 0:17:13 | 0:17:15 | |
How does she do that? I mean, she's 112 years old now, | 0:17:15 | 0:17:18 | |
I think, isn't she? And she's so pretty, she's prettier than ever. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:22 | |
Well, after Gene Krupa Orchestra for five years | 0:17:37 | 0:17:39 | |
and Stan Kenton for one year, I decided that I would like | 0:17:39 | 0:17:43 | |
to try for a small group, which is different kind of work. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
You make the fills yourself, it's called improvising | 0:17:46 | 0:17:49 | |
and that's good jazz. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:51 | |
I'm so glad you could come to the party, young lady. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:54 | |
-Thank you for asking me, sir. -My delight, my delight. | 0:17:54 | 0:17:58 | |
Just in case you don't know who is with us, this is Anita, of course. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:01 | |
You know, in jazz, there are three queens | 0:18:01 | 0:18:04 | |
they say reign over different parts of the world. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:06 | |
Ella, Billie and Anita. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:10 | |
Well, I guess that's about it, you know. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:12 | |
Between the three of them, they cover all the territory. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:15 | |
Currently, Anita O'Day, | 0:18:15 | 0:18:17 | |
who is sampling our parliament here at the Village Vanguard in New York. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:20 | |
And she has opened, we can't smoke that now | 0:18:20 | 0:18:23 | |
because I have a feeling we'll get you to work... | 0:18:23 | 0:18:25 | |
She's opened to the most sensational reviews of her | 0:18:25 | 0:18:27 | |
always sensational career. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:29 | |
She dropped in to be with the boys, | 0:18:29 | 0:18:31 | |
we got a pretty sturdy combination here, wouldn't you say? | 0:18:31 | 0:18:33 | |
-I tell you what I'd like to do. -What would you? | 0:18:33 | 0:18:36 | |
For the first couple of numbers, | 0:18:36 | 0:18:38 | |
I'd like to ask the boys, the instruments, | 0:18:38 | 0:18:40 | |
to take five and I'll do a couple of tunes with the trio. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:43 | |
-All right, you want to do that? -All righty? | 0:18:43 | 0:18:45 | |
-You want us to do that? -I'd love to. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:47 | |
Make a trio, out of the boys that are here. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:48 | |
Pick out some of the guys. Put your rhythm together. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:50 | |
-Me and Mr Ford. -Any time, girl. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:52 | |
Anita O'Day, she's going over there now to pick out some musicians | 0:18:52 | 0:18:56 | |
and make a little trio. | 0:18:56 | 0:18:58 | |
I see them quieting down, the lady has her way. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:02 | |
Selecting her musicians for a little trio accompaniment. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:05 | |
Let's catch up with her. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:06 | |
# My heart is sad | 0:19:12 | 0:19:15 | |
# My heart is sad and lonely for you-ou | 0:19:15 | 0:19:19 | |
# For you dear only | 0:19:19 | 0:19:22 | |
# Why haven't you seen it | 0:19:22 | 0:19:27 | |
# I'm all for you, body and... # | 0:19:27 | 0:19:30 | |
And there was sense of, um, | 0:19:30 | 0:19:33 | |
fuck you about it and it was just like, yeah, I don't know. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:37 | |
I'm just going to do it this way | 0:19:37 | 0:19:40 | |
and maybe they haven't done it before, | 0:19:40 | 0:19:43 | |
but let's give it a shot, you know? Play around with the band, | 0:19:43 | 0:19:45 | |
just stick the mic in your tuba or whatever | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
and show me something, surprise me. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:51 | |
If you're half-assed about it, I'll let you know. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:55 | |
# It's hard to conceive it | 0:19:55 | 0:19:58 | |
# That you turn away romance... | 0:19:58 | 0:20:02 | |
# It looks like the ending our hearts... | 0:20:02 | 0:20:06 | |
Ah, for God's sake! | 0:20:06 | 0:20:08 | |
This is a party. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:11 | |
# One more chance to prove, dear | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
# That my life's a wreck | 0:20:14 | 0:20:17 | |
# My life's a wreck you're making | 0:20:17 | 0:20:20 | |
# You know I'm yours for just the taking... # | 0:20:20 | 0:20:24 | |
All of this is for the piano player! | 0:20:24 | 0:20:26 | |
# And I would gladly surrender... # | 0:20:26 | 0:20:28 | |
Move closer so I can hear you, baby. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:30 | |
# Body and soul | 0:20:32 | 0:20:36 | |
# My heart's a wreck I'm sad and lonely... # | 0:20:36 | 0:20:40 | |
SHE SINGS SCAT STYLE | 0:20:40 | 0:20:45 | |
# You know that I'm yours | 0:21:24 | 0:21:26 | |
# For just the taking | 0:21:26 | 0:21:30 | |
# And I would gladly surrender... # | 0:21:30 | 0:21:34 | |
SHE SCATS | 0:21:34 | 0:21:37 | |
# Body and sou-ou-ou-l. # | 0:21:44 | 0:21:52 | |
Bebop comes along, and she's not so much making an adjustment, | 0:21:57 | 0:22:00 | |
it's learning rhythmic lines over again | 0:22:00 | 0:22:05 | |
and creating an equally sublime interpretation of the rhythmic line | 0:22:05 | 0:22:09 | |
of the bebop era as she'd done previously. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:12 | |
And that's what sets her apart from some of her contemporaries, | 0:22:12 | 0:22:15 | |
who also sounded as though they were primary associates | 0:22:15 | 0:22:19 | |
of the new jazz of the '40s and '50s. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:21 | |
Well, Anita was working with Max Miller at the High Note, | 0:22:21 | 0:22:26 | |
which is on the near north side of Chicago | 0:22:26 | 0:22:28 | |
and evidently they were going to add a trumpet player. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:31 | |
And so they came to see me when I was playing with Stuff Smith | 0:22:31 | 0:22:35 | |
at the Blue Note and evidently they liked what they heard, | 0:22:35 | 0:22:39 | |
so they hired me and that was the longest job in history, | 0:22:39 | 0:22:43 | |
six months at one nightclub. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:46 | |
Anita was not a singer in my estimation. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:49 | |
She was a musician who used her voice as an instrument. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:55 | |
She really puts it in there. | 0:22:55 | 0:22:56 | |
You have to have had a little bit of life under your belt | 0:22:56 | 0:23:00 | |
in order to make those songs your own. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:03 | |
When I was a disc jockey, | 0:23:03 | 0:23:04 | |
I used to play her music and her records a lot, | 0:23:04 | 0:23:06 | |
simply because she was saying something with the music | 0:23:06 | 0:23:09 | |
that other people were not. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:12 | |
She was certainly an innovator. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:14 | |
I mean, so many ladies tried to sound like Anita. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:20 | |
Once you can turn the radio on or the TV or whatever and say, | 0:23:20 | 0:23:24 | |
hey, that's Anita... | 0:23:24 | 0:23:26 | |
..that's very valuable. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:30 | |
Anyone would ask me, I'd have to say | 0:23:30 | 0:23:32 | |
it's that little thing that hangs down that goes ahhhh. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:34 | |
And I don't have that. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:36 | |
My mother says you're going to have your tonsils taken out. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:39 | |
Well, OK, I figured they, they put you back under or something | 0:23:39 | 0:23:44 | |
and it's not going to hurt. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:46 | |
But the slip of the wrist, it came as a letter to my mother saying, | 0:23:46 | 0:23:49 | |
"Dear Mrs Colton, we are so sorry but the slip of the knife, | 0:23:49 | 0:23:54 | |
"your daughter has no uvula." | 0:23:54 | 0:23:56 | |
They cut the uvula out. | 0:23:56 | 0:23:59 | |
When you go to sing it's very important, you know, you need that. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:03 | |
And that's why I sing eighth notes, so I didn't have to use it. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:07 | |
Like... # Sing. # | 0:24:07 | 0:24:08 | |
I have to shake my head for vibrato. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:10 | |
# Singing in the rain... # | 0:24:10 | 0:24:14 | |
It's an open vowel, you know. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:16 | |
But if I had that I would, like I say, whatever. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:19 | |
But that's why I do a lot of eighth notes tunes, like, let's see. | 0:24:19 | 0:24:23 | |
# So you met someone Who set you back on your heels | 0:24:23 | 0:24:27 | |
# Goody, goody. # | 0:24:27 | 0:24:29 | |
See, I don't have to use it. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:30 | |
Well, I got away, I'm still getting away with it, don't tell everybody. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:34 | |
Oh, what... Here's, this is the one I can't, | 0:24:35 | 0:24:38 | |
what is jazz? | 0:24:38 | 0:24:41 | |
MAN LAUGHS | 0:24:41 | 0:24:43 | |
-What is jazz? -You tell us. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:45 | |
Well, like, they think I know. I don't know! | 0:24:45 | 0:24:49 | |
I just do what I'm doing and if they think it's jazz, cos it says so, | 0:24:49 | 0:24:53 | |
that's, that's how I got them, so, I don't have to know why. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:58 | |
Let's do a tune called Let's Fall In Love in F in two four, | 0:24:58 | 0:25:02 | |
just like this. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:04 | |
This is the introduction, folks, in two four. | 0:25:07 | 0:25:10 | |
# Let's fall in love | 0:25:10 | 0:25:13 | |
# Why shouldn't we fall in love | 0:25:13 | 0:25:16 | |
# Our hearts are made of it | 0:25:16 | 0:25:18 | |
# Take a chance | 0:25:18 | 0:25:21 | |
# Why be afraid of it. # | 0:25:21 | 0:25:22 | |
Now, stop. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:24 | |
That was in two four time, now the second eighth, same song, | 0:25:24 | 0:25:27 | |
we're going to it into four four time and this is what you get. | 0:25:27 | 0:25:32 | |
# Let's fall in love | 0:25:32 | 0:25:34 | |
# Why shouldn't we fall in love | 0:25:34 | 0:25:36 | |
# Our hearts are made of it | 0:25:36 | 0:25:39 | |
# Take a chance | 0:25:39 | 0:25:41 | |
# Why be afraid of it | 0:25:41 | 0:25:43 | |
# Let's close our eyes and make our own paradise | 0:25:43 | 0:25:47 | |
# Little we know of it | 0:25:47 | 0:25:49 | |
# Still we can try to make a go of it... # | 0:25:49 | 0:25:51 | |
Now, you're going into the bridge, | 0:25:51 | 0:25:54 | |
the melody is just a counterpoint. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:56 | |
I've got de-da-da-da-da-de-de, you want to go up or down? | 0:25:56 | 0:26:00 | |
D minor, the chord's D minor. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:02 | |
# De-la-de-do-do-do... # | 0:26:02 | 0:26:05 | |
That's the melody. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:08 | |
# Dee-ala-da-da-dee... | 0:26:08 | 0:26:12 | |
# Let's fall in love | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
# Why shouldn't we fall in love | 0:26:15 | 0:26:18 | |
# Now is the time for it while we are young | 0:26:18 | 0:26:22 | |
# Let's fall in love... # | 0:26:22 | 0:26:26 | |
SHE SCATS | 0:26:26 | 0:26:30 | |
Everything that happened in the room and every sound she heard, | 0:26:32 | 0:26:36 | |
she would somehow work into her performance and I remember vividly | 0:26:36 | 0:26:40 | |
that she talked about the ceiling fan | 0:26:40 | 0:26:42 | |
whirling above her with a chit, chit-chit-chit. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:45 | |
So, she threw that into the music | 0:26:45 | 0:26:48 | |
and made that part of her rhythm. That's a jazz singer. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:51 | |
# Let's fall in love why shouldn't we fall in love | 0:26:51 | 0:26:56 | |
# Our hearts are made for it... # | 0:26:56 | 0:26:57 | |
I felt about her as I felt like films by John Cassavetes. | 0:26:57 | 0:27:00 | |
It's like, how can it seem so spontaneous | 0:27:00 | 0:27:03 | |
and so fit in with the music and that's why jazz | 0:27:03 | 0:27:06 | |
is still a mystery to me, it's like, do they rehearse all of that stuff? | 0:27:06 | 0:27:09 | |
# Still we can try to make a go of it | 0:27:09 | 0:27:12 | |
# We might have been meant for each other... # | 0:27:12 | 0:27:15 | |
That's jazz singing, to improvise. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:18 | |
# To be or not to be | 0:27:18 | 0:27:20 | |
# Let our hearts discover | 0:27:20 | 0:27:24 | |
# Let's fall... | 0:27:24 | 0:27:26 | |
# La, la, la, la, love | 0:27:26 | 0:27:30 | |
# While we are young | 0:27:30 | 0:27:33 | |
# While we are young | 0:27:33 | 0:27:35 | |
# Let's fall in love In love, in la-la-love | 0:27:35 | 0:27:41 | |
# Let's fall in lo-o-ve | 0:27:41 | 0:27:50 | |
# Let's fall in la-la-la-love... # | 0:27:51 | 0:27:56 | |
Not just four, but five notes, la, just that time, | 0:27:56 | 0:28:00 | |
-it's different each time, you see? -Yeah, right. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:03 | |
And that's what jazz is all about, it's sort of a freelance sketch. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:06 | |
That's beautiful. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:08 | |
# I told you I love you | 0:28:13 | 0:28:17 | |
# Now get out... # | 0:28:17 | 0:28:19 | |
I got married a couple of times, too. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:23 | |
Sorry about that. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:26 | |
Why do you laugh like that? | 0:28:26 | 0:28:28 | |
Because, like, just curious about things, you do things, you know? | 0:28:28 | 0:28:31 | |
No, but you say, I been married a couple of times too, ha-ha-ha! Why? | 0:28:31 | 0:28:34 | |
-Well, I was curious about marriage, too. -Was your curiosity satiated? | 0:28:34 | 0:28:38 | |
-I'm not married now. -How come? -I got enough of that. | 0:28:38 | 0:28:41 | |
One was the drummer, Don Carter. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:44 | |
And that lasted about a year | 0:28:44 | 0:28:47 | |
and his mother was very unhappy about the scene and I didn't want to live | 0:28:47 | 0:28:51 | |
with Mother, so he says, well, I'll see you later, Anita, thanks a lot. | 0:28:51 | 0:28:55 | |
So, he and Mom went off to New York | 0:28:55 | 0:28:58 | |
and right after that I was singing at the Three Deuces, the off beat room | 0:28:58 | 0:29:02 | |
downstairs, and Art Tatum was the piano player upstairs, not too bad. | 0:29:02 | 0:29:05 | |
And this guy comes in and years later he told me, | 0:29:05 | 0:29:08 | |
he just stepped in out of the rain in the alcove. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:11 | |
And he saw my picture on the wall, didn't even know it was a nightclub. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:14 | |
He had his car parked next door | 0:29:14 | 0:29:16 | |
and he just stopped in there and then he was going to go get his car. | 0:29:16 | 0:29:19 | |
He was a golf pro. | 0:29:19 | 0:29:20 | |
And so he came in and as he walked in and sat down, | 0:29:20 | 0:29:24 | |
I was singing the tune... | 0:29:24 | 0:29:25 | |
# While tearing off a game of golf | 0:29:25 | 0:29:27 | |
# I may make a play for the caddy | 0:29:27 | 0:29:30 | |
# When I do I don't follow through Cos my heart belongs to Daddy... # | 0:29:30 | 0:29:34 | |
And he, he told me this, you know. | 0:29:34 | 0:29:36 | |
And he said, he told his friend when he got home, | 0:29:36 | 0:29:39 | |
I'm going to marry that girl. And it's true, we were married 14 years. | 0:29:39 | 0:29:41 | |
-Wonderful. -Yeah, how about that. | 0:29:41 | 0:29:45 | |
Well, I was in the business, you know? | 0:29:46 | 0:29:48 | |
And he was a golf pro which keeps him over there and when, and home, | 0:29:48 | 0:29:51 | |
and I'm out on the road all the time and you just drift apart. | 0:29:51 | 0:29:55 | |
So, it wasn't, eh, planned, just kind of...mutual agreement. | 0:29:55 | 0:29:59 | |
There are jazz singers and jazz musicians | 0:30:02 | 0:30:05 | |
but then there's the jazz life, and that is what Anita O'Day epitomises. | 0:30:05 | 0:30:10 | |
The jazz life to me is improvising | 0:30:10 | 0:30:12 | |
your life every step of the way. | 0:30:12 | 0:30:14 | |
That's very much hand in hand with drug addiction. | 0:30:14 | 0:30:19 | |
Which is like a unique thing, I think, about jazz, frankly, | 0:30:19 | 0:30:22 | |
because you have to live it. You have to live it | 0:30:22 | 0:30:25 | |
and perform it, speaking for what | 0:30:25 | 0:30:28 | |
I've seen with my father. | 0:30:28 | 0:30:30 | |
I mean, there's no... | 0:30:30 | 0:30:31 | |
It's ingrained in every fibre, | 0:30:31 | 0:30:34 | |
every breathing moment. | 0:30:34 | 0:30:36 | |
Singers and performers, you know, we're really insane, | 0:30:36 | 0:30:40 | |
that we're working tough hours, many places, | 0:30:40 | 0:30:44 | |
and they needed something that would relax them, | 0:30:44 | 0:30:48 | |
either scotch, gin, whatever you drank, | 0:30:48 | 0:30:53 | |
or, worse than that, the drugs. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:56 | |
-How could you ever get involved with all that junk? -How could you? | 0:30:56 | 0:30:59 | |
-Yeah. -Curiosity killed the cat, right? | 0:30:59 | 0:31:01 | |
-Was it just curiosity? -Of course. | 0:31:01 | 0:31:03 | |
-Was there a lot of it around, Anita? -Right. It was a thing in California. | 0:31:03 | 0:31:08 | |
I guess it was a thing in New York too. You know, as you travel, it's always there. | 0:31:08 | 0:31:11 | |
It's like certain people, they just kind of hang out, and whatever town | 0:31:11 | 0:31:15 | |
you are in, they come around so it is very hard to quit. | 0:31:15 | 0:31:18 | |
You say, "I am going to quit," | 0:31:18 | 0:31:20 | |
and there's a group of people, that is what they do in life. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:24 | |
We all needed drugs so we took them, | 0:31:24 | 0:31:27 | |
and the more we took them, the more we needed. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:31 | |
I mean, it's the most seductive, insidious kind of thing | 0:31:31 | 0:31:38 | |
because it's your lover, | 0:31:38 | 0:31:40 | |
it's your buffer between the world and problems you have. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:46 | |
If you get high, you feel great. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:48 | |
Is there anything, honestly, to the fact that cannabis, | 0:31:49 | 0:31:53 | |
marijuana, pot, Mary Jane, taking a thumb break, | 0:31:53 | 0:31:56 | |
whatever you call it, muggles - have I left anything out? - | 0:31:56 | 0:32:00 | |
actually helps a musician have more choices and variety in his playing? | 0:32:00 | 0:32:07 | |
Oh, gosh. I don't really think so. | 0:32:07 | 0:32:09 | |
Because that was the rumour, of course. | 0:32:09 | 0:32:11 | |
Probably. That's why a lot of people tried it for some unknown reason. | 0:32:11 | 0:32:15 | |
But it really has nothing to do with what you really do | 0:32:15 | 0:32:18 | |
if you can do it at all. | 0:32:18 | 0:32:20 | |
That is where all the jazz is. | 0:32:20 | 0:32:22 | |
You know, "They got the name, play the game." | 0:32:22 | 0:32:25 | |
I told you about when they put me in jail on pot. | 0:32:25 | 0:32:27 | |
I said, "I got the name. Haven't done it. I'll play the game. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:32 | |
"They are going to think that anyhow." | 0:32:32 | 0:32:34 | |
Then you get curious and you go find out for yourself. | 0:32:34 | 0:32:37 | |
The first one was the marijuana and the paper in Long Beach says, | 0:32:45 | 0:32:50 | |
"Bars for O'Day but not music." Headlines like war was declared. | 0:32:50 | 0:32:56 | |
Funny. Funny. | 0:32:56 | 0:32:57 | |
They really had the cops out for everybody. | 0:32:57 | 0:33:02 | |
"You mustn't drink, you mustn't take drugs." | 0:33:02 | 0:33:06 | |
I was asked several times if I took something. "Yeah, a Coca-Cola." | 0:33:07 | 0:33:14 | |
And these guys would follow, especially the big bands or anybody | 0:33:14 | 0:33:17 | |
that was pretty popular, they'd follow them because they knew | 0:33:17 | 0:33:19 | |
at some point, somebody, without thinking about it, | 0:33:19 | 0:33:22 | |
was going to light up or do whatever the guys were doing at that time, | 0:33:22 | 0:33:25 | |
and then they'd make a quick arrest and the headline or something | 0:33:25 | 0:33:29 | |
would say, so-and-so in so-and-so's orchestra got busted, or whatever. | 0:33:29 | 0:33:33 | |
It was pretty sad, actually. | 0:33:35 | 0:33:37 | |
They sure make a nice story out of it. | 0:33:37 | 0:33:38 | |
She is singing a song which is her livelihood and she is making | 0:33:38 | 0:33:43 | |
her living, and then they walk up there and arrest her. | 0:33:43 | 0:33:46 | |
They did, they arrested me, they took me to jail. | 0:33:46 | 0:33:49 | |
I was in over the weekend or whatever, | 0:33:49 | 0:33:51 | |
and then I had to go to court, then they gave me six months. | 0:33:51 | 0:33:55 | |
I got a chance to see how the other people live. | 0:33:56 | 0:34:00 | |
You're never too close to anybody else. | 0:34:00 | 0:34:03 | |
They always keep you away, you're the celebrity, | 0:34:03 | 0:34:05 | |
"You can't see her, you can't talk to her," | 0:34:05 | 0:34:07 | |
and I'm talking to all these people and they all got the same story. | 0:34:07 | 0:34:11 | |
"I didn't do it, Anita. I'm innocent." | 0:34:11 | 0:34:14 | |
They were all innocent, you know! | 0:34:14 | 0:34:17 | |
They gave me one month for good time, I had three to go, | 0:34:17 | 0:34:21 | |
so they pulled it, and a job to go to, | 0:34:21 | 0:34:26 | |
so that is two good things, so they let me out. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:29 | |
And I didn't do six months, what did I do? I did four months, right? | 0:34:29 | 0:34:33 | |
You'll get a different approach after a few days in jail. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:37 | |
It is something else, you know? | 0:34:37 | 0:34:38 | |
You were convicted several times on drug charges. | 0:34:46 | 0:34:50 | |
How difficult did that make it for you to get bookings in certain | 0:34:50 | 0:34:53 | |
-cities that had...? -That helped, that's showbiz! | 0:34:53 | 0:34:56 | |
And that was part of it. Man, I'd work a club | 0:34:56 | 0:34:58 | |
and they'd be standing out down the street around the corner, | 0:34:58 | 0:35:01 | |
getting in to see the girl just got out of jail. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:04 | |
Yeah! | 0:35:04 | 0:35:06 | |
It's a strip joint is what it is. Drink and the strips come out, | 0:35:06 | 0:35:09 | |
not as far as today's but at that time. | 0:35:09 | 0:35:12 | |
And this elderly lady is the MC, who turned out to be Lenny Bruce's mother, | 0:35:12 | 0:35:17 | |
and then he got all these jokes going from that place | 0:35:17 | 0:35:20 | |
and I thought, I said to this person, "Where is the band?" | 0:35:20 | 0:35:24 | |
"Behind the curtain," and that is a real band going on. | 0:35:24 | 0:35:28 | |
But he could see through it, I mean the drummer. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:30 | |
I said, "I'd like to meet him. | 0:35:30 | 0:35:32 | |
"The girls don't dance but he catches every bop." | 0:35:32 | 0:35:35 | |
Like, if they go like that, he'd go bop. | 0:35:35 | 0:35:38 | |
They don't know what they are doing | 0:35:38 | 0:35:39 | |
but he knows enough to follow all that. | 0:35:39 | 0:35:42 | |
I said, "I want that drummer. He is going to be my drummer." | 0:35:42 | 0:35:45 | |
And he was for 30 years. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:47 | |
But John, this drummer, John Poole, I'd say, "Well, what do you do? | 0:35:48 | 0:35:55 | |
"You know, you don't drink, you don't smoke, what do you do?" | 0:35:55 | 0:35:59 | |
"Here's some heroin." "Oh, heroin. Hmmm." | 0:35:59 | 0:36:03 | |
He says, "You put it in the spoon and you put a little water | 0:36:03 | 0:36:05 | |
"and you put it into your vein." I says, "And you're doing that?" | 0:36:05 | 0:36:10 | |
He says, "Yeah, I been doing it a long time, | 0:36:10 | 0:36:13 | |
"I'm really hung up on it." | 0:36:13 | 0:36:15 | |
And I said, "Well, I want to try it." | 0:36:15 | 0:36:17 | |
He says, "No, I'm not going to be the one to turn you on, Anita. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:20 | |
"I don't want to be the one to start you | 0:36:20 | 0:36:22 | |
"into that bad, going down the hill routine." | 0:36:22 | 0:36:24 | |
I said, "Oh, well, I'll stop drinking, | 0:36:24 | 0:36:27 | |
"and I wouldn't have the mixture." And he's, "No." | 0:36:27 | 0:36:31 | |
And then one day he got kind of high and everything and he says, | 0:36:31 | 0:36:33 | |
"OK, I'll give you two drops." | 0:36:33 | 0:36:38 | |
Now the spoon handles about ten if you take them slow | 0:36:38 | 0:36:42 | |
and he does it that way, he takes it up to about that much. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:44 | |
So does Charlie Parker. When we met him one day he says, | 0:36:44 | 0:36:48 | |
"You want to turn on, John?" | 0:36:48 | 0:36:50 | |
Because everybody knew John was a turn on, you know. | 0:36:50 | 0:36:53 | |
They didn't know about me, I was just around. | 0:36:53 | 0:36:57 | |
And so he takes all this but two drops, puts it in the spoon, | 0:36:57 | 0:37:03 | |
and I'm looking at him | 0:37:03 | 0:37:05 | |
and I'm saying, "Hey, that's better than a martini. | 0:37:05 | 0:37:10 | |
"Hey, that's better than sex. Hey, I kind of like that, yeah. | 0:37:10 | 0:37:15 | |
"When are you going again? | 0:37:15 | 0:37:17 | |
He says, "Give me 20 and I'll go now." | 0:37:17 | 0:37:20 | |
So every day, I gave him 20 and we both got into it, you know? | 0:37:20 | 0:37:24 | |
Now we're both smiling and swinging and playing. | 0:37:24 | 0:37:28 | |
One, two, three, four, five. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:31 | |
# Picture me upon your knee A tea for two, two for tea | 0:37:39 | 0:37:42 | |
# Can't you see how happy we could be... # | 0:37:42 | 0:37:44 | |
ANITA SCATS | 0:37:44 | 0:37:46 | |
My God, what a perfect marriage, you know. | 0:37:50 | 0:37:53 | |
I'm not romanticising it, but heroin and jazz that way, because jazz | 0:37:53 | 0:37:58 | |
is all about trying to completely... At least if you're, you know, | 0:37:58 | 0:38:02 | |
if you're improvising or bebop, completely trying to free yourself. | 0:38:02 | 0:38:06 | |
ANITA SCATS | 0:38:06 | 0:38:10 | |
# ..Me to make a sugar cake for you to take for all the boys to see | 0:38:14 | 0:38:17 | |
# Raise a family A boy for you, a girl for me | 0:38:17 | 0:38:19 | |
# Now can't you see how happy we could be? | 0:38:19 | 0:38:23 | |
# Picture me upon your knee with tea for two and two for tea | 0:38:23 | 0:38:25 | |
# Now can't you see how happy we could be? | 0:38:25 | 0:38:28 | |
# Nobody near us To see us or hear us | 0:38:28 | 0:38:29 | |
# No friends relations on vacations | 0:38:29 | 0:38:31 | |
# We won't have it known We own a telephone dear | 0:38:31 | 0:38:34 | |
# Day will break and you'll awake For me to bake a sugar cake | 0:38:34 | 0:38:37 | |
# For you to take for all the boys to see | 0:38:37 | 0:38:38 | |
# Raise a family A boy for you a girl for me | 0:38:38 | 0:38:41 | |
# Can't you see how happy we could be? # | 0:38:41 | 0:38:44 | |
When she said she got on drugs, that she was singing faster | 0:38:44 | 0:38:49 | |
and was free and... | 0:38:49 | 0:38:53 | |
like, she opened her hands and opened her heart | 0:38:53 | 0:38:57 | |
and out came better things than she had ever done. | 0:38:57 | 0:39:02 | |
She was happy. She was free. | 0:39:02 | 0:39:05 | |
ANITA SCATS | 0:39:09 | 0:39:12 | |
Everything that Anita does is so great. | 0:39:33 | 0:39:36 | |
Tea For Two, Honeysuckle Rose, Georgia Brown - | 0:39:36 | 0:39:39 | |
those kind of vehicles for her rhythmic exhibitionism, | 0:39:39 | 0:39:44 | |
you might say, because, I mean, she's got a very pretty voice | 0:39:44 | 0:39:47 | |
but the whole crux, you know, the whole, sort of, nexus | 0:39:47 | 0:39:50 | |
of what she does is what she does with time. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:52 | |
And she's just got amazingly swinging time. | 0:39:52 | 0:39:55 | |
ANITA SCATS | 0:39:55 | 0:39:57 | |
# Me to bake a sugar cake for you to take for all the boys to see | 0:40:01 | 0:40:05 | |
# We'll raise a family A boy for you, a girl for me | 0:40:05 | 0:40:08 | |
# Now can't you see how happy we could be? | 0:40:08 | 0:40:12 | |
# Can't you see | 0:40:12 | 0:40:14 | |
# How happy we | 0:40:14 | 0:40:17 | |
# Could be | 0:40:17 | 0:40:20 | |
# We three? # | 0:40:20 | 0:40:25 | |
I was living in a small apartment on the beach | 0:40:28 | 0:40:31 | |
and she and John moved in next door. | 0:40:31 | 0:40:34 | |
On Sunday mornings, | 0:40:34 | 0:40:36 | |
I'd be wakened at dawn by the sound of a motor scooter. | 0:40:36 | 0:40:40 | |
And their connection was arriving on a motor scooter. | 0:40:40 | 0:40:44 | |
He would get off, walk in this little dividing area | 0:40:44 | 0:40:47 | |
between the buildings, there was a ladder, put a ladder up and walk up | 0:40:47 | 0:40:50 | |
the ladder and make his delivery through their bedroom window. | 0:40:50 | 0:40:55 | |
John and Anita both, at different times, would go into South Central | 0:40:55 | 0:40:58 | |
and really run very risky trips, and they pulled it off. | 0:40:58 | 0:41:04 | |
But that was, to me, like the ideal of living at the beach, | 0:41:04 | 0:41:07 | |
to have your connection come on a motor scooter | 0:41:07 | 0:41:10 | |
and delivered to your bedroom window. | 0:41:10 | 0:41:12 | |
We can fantasise about living that kind of on-the-road existence, | 0:41:17 | 0:41:23 | |
but very few of us | 0:41:23 | 0:41:24 | |
will ever do what Anita O'Day has done every day of her life. | 0:41:24 | 0:41:28 | |
The question was would she have done better if she had had better | 0:41:37 | 0:41:40 | |
management along the way? I don't think that that would have | 0:41:40 | 0:41:43 | |
helped because I don't think that Anita was manageable, as such. | 0:41:43 | 0:41:48 | |
Anita had her own opinions about everything | 0:41:48 | 0:41:51 | |
and I probably got along with her better than anyone | 0:41:51 | 0:41:53 | |
because she liked me and I was a jazz drummer. | 0:41:53 | 0:41:56 | |
I think that's why John Poole allowed her to sign with me, | 0:41:56 | 0:41:58 | |
because I was a drummer. | 0:41:58 | 0:42:00 | |
She was making 2,500 a week playing clubs at that time. | 0:42:05 | 0:42:09 | |
# I'm travelling light... # | 0:42:09 | 0:42:12 | |
She says, "You're going to live on the 2,500 a week | 0:42:12 | 0:42:15 | |
"you're making in the clubs." | 0:42:15 | 0:42:16 | |
# ..Because my man has gone... # | 0:42:16 | 0:42:20 | |
"At the end of two years, if it goes three years, you'll have some | 0:42:20 | 0:42:23 | |
"money when it's over, for the first time in your life." | 0:42:23 | 0:42:26 | |
# ..I'm travelling light... # | 0:42:27 | 0:42:30 | |
At the end of three years, she came by my house to borrow two bucks | 0:42:30 | 0:42:34 | |
for gas money so she could keep going. | 0:42:34 | 0:42:36 | |
# ..And took my heart away | 0:42:39 | 0:42:46 | |
# So from today | 0:42:46 | 0:42:51 | |
# I'm travelling light... # | 0:42:51 | 0:42:55 | |
Care to speculate what happened to all that dough? | 0:42:55 | 0:42:57 | |
I don't think it requires speculation. | 0:42:57 | 0:43:00 | |
I think there was probably a great deal of it that went into her | 0:43:00 | 0:43:03 | |
left arm and some into her right arm. | 0:43:03 | 0:43:06 | |
And...some into the care and maintenance of John Poole. | 0:43:06 | 0:43:10 | |
# ..No-one but me | 0:43:10 | 0:43:16 | |
# And my memories | 0:43:16 | 0:43:20 | |
# Some lucky night | 0:43:21 | 0:43:25 | |
# He may come back again | 0:43:28 | 0:43:34 | |
# But until then | 0:43:34 | 0:43:39 | |
# I'm travelling light... # | 0:43:39 | 0:43:45 | |
There's an awful lot going on underneath the surface that | 0:43:47 | 0:43:50 | |
catches your attention because it's mysterious, it's restrained | 0:43:50 | 0:43:54 | |
and because it's kind of secret. | 0:43:54 | 0:43:57 | |
And she has that quality to this, to this day. | 0:43:57 | 0:44:00 | |
# ..I'm travelling light | 0:44:00 | 0:44:05 | |
# I'm travelling light | 0:44:05 | 0:44:10 | |
# I'm travelling light | 0:44:12 | 0:44:18 | |
# I'm travelling light. # | 0:44:18 | 0:44:26 | |
You know, when you think of the ultimate, really, really great, | 0:44:29 | 0:44:32 | |
especially female jazz singers, you know, | 0:44:32 | 0:44:34 | |
I would think that Anita is the only white woman that belongs in | 0:44:34 | 0:44:37 | |
the same breath as Ella Fitzgerald and Billie Holiday and Sarah Vaughn. | 0:44:37 | 0:44:42 | |
We had a lot of black female singers like Sarah Vaughn and, of course, | 0:44:42 | 0:44:48 | |
Ella Fitzgerald but Anita O'Day was right there with them in that class. | 0:44:48 | 0:44:56 | |
It doesn't matter what colour you are, if you don't have the | 0:44:56 | 0:44:59 | |
feeling to play the jazz, because it's the feeling... | 0:44:59 | 0:45:03 | |
that's one of the biggest things you've got to get in there. | 0:45:03 | 0:45:06 | |
Another thing, singing in the Apollo Theater - | 0:45:06 | 0:45:09 | |
very few whites sing there, very few whites play there. | 0:45:09 | 0:45:13 | |
She could go in there and sing, you know... | 0:45:13 | 0:45:18 | |
she's got it. | 0:45:18 | 0:45:20 | |
She's got it, I mean, she's got that feeling. | 0:45:20 | 0:45:23 | |
I think it's interesting that not that many people do know that | 0:45:23 | 0:45:26 | |
Anita O'Day was the first vocalist recorded for Verve Records, | 0:45:26 | 0:45:29 | |
before Billie Holiday, definitely before Ella Fitzgerald. | 0:45:29 | 0:45:32 | |
I told you that he was playing tennis with the guy | 0:45:32 | 0:45:35 | |
and the guy said, "What do you do?" | 0:45:35 | 0:45:37 | |
And he says, "I own a record company," and he said, back to him, | 0:45:37 | 0:45:43 | |
he says, "Well, I am an arranger from Chicago." And he says, | 0:45:43 | 0:45:47 | |
"Come up to the office, I have a couple of people - you can have your choice." | 0:45:47 | 0:45:52 | |
He picked me from Chicago | 0:45:52 | 0:45:54 | |
and that is how I got to go with Buddy Bregman. | 0:45:54 | 0:45:57 | |
And I said, "Well, there's no-one I can work with here." | 0:45:57 | 0:46:00 | |
You can't record Dizzy Gillespie in a pop song. | 0:46:00 | 0:46:03 | |
So there's one name there that I recognise because this person, | 0:46:03 | 0:46:08 | |
when I was 11 years old, my brother and I saw Stan Kenton's band, | 0:46:08 | 0:46:11 | |
they came to our club in Chicago. | 0:46:11 | 0:46:13 | |
The lady who was singing with them was named Anita O'Day | 0:46:13 | 0:46:16 | |
and I said, "You have her name there." | 0:46:16 | 0:46:17 | |
And I said, "She also went to my high school." | 0:46:17 | 0:46:20 | |
The only thing I can think that's even near something pop, pop-ish, | 0:46:20 | 0:46:24 | |
jazz-oriented pop would be her. | 0:46:24 | 0:46:26 | |
He said, "OK, but don't spend too much money | 0:46:26 | 0:46:29 | |
"because she doesn't sell any records." | 0:46:29 | 0:46:30 | |
So we sold 365,000 albums. | 0:46:32 | 0:46:37 | |
Every tune was a hit. It wasn't, "Hey, turn it over on side two. | 0:46:37 | 0:46:43 | |
"Boy, you'll love take four." It wasn't one of those, | 0:46:43 | 0:46:46 | |
it was like all six on each side was impeccable. | 0:46:46 | 0:46:51 | |
Well, now she sprinkles the old Honeysuckle Rose with | 0:46:51 | 0:46:54 | |
a dash of atomic energy. | 0:46:54 | 0:46:55 | |
# Every honey bee fills with jealousy | 0:46:55 | 0:46:58 | |
# When they see you out with me | 0:46:58 | 0:47:01 | |
# I don't blame them Goodness knows | 0:47:01 | 0:47:03 | |
# Honeysuckle Rose | 0:47:03 | 0:47:07 | |
# Flowers droop and sigh When you're passing by | 0:47:07 | 0:47:11 | |
# And I know the reason why | 0:47:11 | 0:47:14 | |
# You're much sweeter Goodness knows | 0:47:14 | 0:47:17 | |
# And you are my Honeysuckle Rose... # | 0:47:17 | 0:47:20 | |
She asked me if I knew how to play Honeysuckle Rose, | 0:47:20 | 0:47:23 | |
and I said, "Yeah, sure. I can play it." | 0:47:23 | 0:47:25 | |
And I was playing in the key of C and she said, "Nope, | 0:47:25 | 0:47:27 | |
"that's too high, play it in B." | 0:47:27 | 0:47:30 | |
I said, "I can't play in B, I can't think in B. | 0:47:30 | 0:47:32 | |
"But I'll try B flat." | 0:47:32 | 0:47:35 | |
And, "No, no, no, no, it's too low. | 0:47:35 | 0:47:37 | |
"Can't you play it in B?" | 0:47:37 | 0:47:39 | |
"I said, "Well, let me try it this way." I said, "Let me try it." | 0:47:39 | 0:47:43 | |
And I just turned my body this way and played sideways | 0:47:43 | 0:47:46 | |
and stayed in the same key and she said, "That's it." | 0:47:46 | 0:47:49 | |
# ..Fills with jealousy | 0:47:49 | 0:47:52 | |
# When they see you out with me | 0:47:52 | 0:47:54 | |
# I don't blame them Goodness knows | 0:47:54 | 0:47:57 | |
# Honey | 0:47:57 | 0:48:01 | |
# Flowers droop and sigh When you're passing by | 0:48:01 | 0:48:04 | |
# And I know the reason why | 0:48:04 | 0:48:07 | |
# You're my sweet and goodness knows | 0:48:07 | 0:48:10 | |
# Honey, honey | 0:48:10 | 0:48:14 | |
# I don't buy sugar | 0:48:14 | 0:48:17 | |
# You just have to touch my cup | 0:48:17 | 0:48:20 | |
# You're my sugar | 0:48:20 | 0:48:23 | |
# So sweet when you stir it up | 0:48:23 | 0:48:27 | |
# On the avenue People look at you | 0:48:27 | 0:48:31 | |
# And I know just why they do | 0:48:31 | 0:48:33 | |
# Goodness knows | 0:48:33 | 0:48:36 | |
# Honey | 0:48:36 | 0:48:38 | |
# Every honey bee fills with jealousy | 0:48:38 | 0:48:43 | |
# When they see you out with me | 0:48:43 | 0:48:46 | |
# Well I don't blame them Goodness knows | 0:48:46 | 0:48:50 | |
# A Honeysuckle Rose | 0:48:50 | 0:48:53 | |
# Flowers droop and sigh When you're passing by | 0:48:53 | 0:48:56 | |
# I know the reason why | 0:48:56 | 0:48:59 | |
# You're much sweeter Goodness knows | 0:48:59 | 0:49:03 | |
# Honeysuckle Rose | 0:49:03 | 0:49:05 | |
# I don't buy sugar | 0:49:05 | 0:49:09 | |
# You just have to touch my cup | 0:49:09 | 0:49:12 | |
# My sugar | 0:49:12 | 0:49:16 | |
# So sweet when you stir it up | 0:49:16 | 0:49:19 | |
# On the avenue People look at you | 0:49:19 | 0:49:22 | |
# And I know just why they do it | 0:49:22 | 0:49:26 | |
# Goodness knows | 0:49:26 | 0:49:28 | |
# You're my honey Honeysuckle Rose | 0:49:28 | 0:49:32 | |
# You're my honey | 0:49:32 | 0:49:35 | |
# Honey, honey | 0:49:35 | 0:49:39 | |
# You're my Honeysuckle Rose. # | 0:49:39 | 0:49:42 | |
I had to have 12 tunes to do with Oscar Peterson. | 0:50:01 | 0:50:06 | |
And I lost 12 races, | 0:50:06 | 0:50:09 | |
because usually I like to come in just under the line | 0:50:09 | 0:50:12 | |
in front of people... and the band plays... | 0:50:12 | 0:50:16 | |
# Dah-dah-dah-dah-dah. # | 0:50:16 | 0:50:19 | |
But with him I come in the last on every tune | 0:50:19 | 0:50:22 | |
because he is a fast player, | 0:50:22 | 0:50:25 | |
and while he is singing the song and I'm singing the song, | 0:50:25 | 0:50:28 | |
all of a sudden he goes... And he was like winning all 12 tunes. | 0:50:28 | 0:50:33 | |
She can sing like Oscar Peterson plays, you know, just at that fast | 0:50:33 | 0:50:36 | |
and you can still follow the melody and | 0:50:36 | 0:50:38 | |
still everything is absolutely clear to you, you know, every word, | 0:50:38 | 0:50:41 | |
which is an amazing thing to be able to do, you know, | 0:50:41 | 0:50:43 | |
you couldn't talk that fast. Nobody could. | 0:50:43 | 0:50:46 | |
Without words... Oh, no, that's very confusing because after all | 0:50:46 | 0:50:51 | |
Anita O'Day is going to vocalise with Les Brown and his boys on | 0:50:51 | 0:50:56 | |
a number originally written for four saxophones entitled Four Brothers. | 0:50:56 | 0:51:00 | |
Two, three, four. | 0:51:02 | 0:51:03 | |
ANITA SCATS | 0:51:03 | 0:51:06 | |
I said, "What kind of piece of music is this?" | 0:51:11 | 0:51:13 | |
And I look at it and it is in my key and it has no lyrics | 0:51:13 | 0:51:17 | |
and there's a little note attached and he says, "This is the lead | 0:51:17 | 0:51:24 | |
"and you have harmony of four guys behind you," | 0:51:24 | 0:51:27 | |
whichever they decided to use. They decided to use saxophones. | 0:51:27 | 0:51:31 | |
I took the part of one saxophone player | 0:51:31 | 0:51:34 | |
and the other three played harmony and I had the melody. | 0:51:34 | 0:51:38 | |
SHE SCATS | 0:51:38 | 0:51:41 | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:52:09 | 0:52:11 | |
Billy May was the trumpet player in the band. | 0:52:15 | 0:52:18 | |
Next thing I know he is this great arranger. Beautiful. | 0:52:18 | 0:52:23 | |
When that was passed on and I was to sing that, I couldn't quite | 0:52:24 | 0:52:28 | |
believe me singing Johnny One Note, | 0:52:28 | 0:52:31 | |
to say, "Ahhhh! Johnny One Note," and hold the note. | 0:52:31 | 0:52:34 | |
I was so inspired by the background, | 0:52:34 | 0:52:36 | |
I said, "It is my job to hold the note, and I did. | 0:52:36 | 0:52:39 | |
She was a great artist. Real talent. | 0:52:47 | 0:52:50 | |
One of the real jazz singers. | 0:52:50 | 0:52:52 | |
She could improvise and she sang such wonderful creative phrases. | 0:52:52 | 0:52:58 | |
To me, the important thing about a singer is not their sound, | 0:53:00 | 0:53:05 | |
but first of all, they've got to sing the meaning of the lyric. | 0:53:05 | 0:53:09 | |
They have to be an actress and sing with feeling. | 0:53:09 | 0:53:12 | |
ANITA'S RECORD PLAYS | 0:53:12 | 0:53:15 | |
Oh, that's a great tune. | 0:53:15 | 0:53:17 | |
# ..Yet it's uncomfortably near... # | 0:53:22 | 0:53:27 | |
Anita and Billie Holiday knew how to sing with feeling, didn't they? | 0:53:34 | 0:53:39 | |
She'd been a big favourite of mine | 0:53:42 | 0:53:44 | |
since I was a kid from her days with Krupa. | 0:53:44 | 0:53:49 | |
In our meeting she said, "I'm not a singer, | 0:53:49 | 0:53:52 | |
"I'm a song stylist." | 0:53:52 | 0:53:55 | |
She wanted that understood. | 0:53:55 | 0:53:57 | |
She might have been sometimes too hardboiled for some people, | 0:53:57 | 0:54:01 | |
you know, but I always dug it. | 0:54:01 | 0:54:05 | |
She's got quite an ear for intricate arrangements. | 0:54:05 | 0:54:08 | |
So it took quite a while to get her, to get her ideas down | 0:54:08 | 0:54:11 | |
because she doesn't write anything down, she just would sing her ideas. | 0:54:11 | 0:54:17 | |
We were totally at her mercy. | 0:54:17 | 0:54:20 | |
Gary McFarland. Wasn't that a beautiful set? And a tragic ending. | 0:54:20 | 0:54:26 | |
This man was so young and if you listen to the way he arranges and | 0:54:26 | 0:54:30 | |
everything is in the right place. You say, | 0:54:30 | 0:54:32 | |
"That should have been heard there," and he did it. | 0:54:32 | 0:54:35 | |
And he was very young and I was working in San Francisco, | 0:54:35 | 0:54:41 | |
everybody worked it, it is called the Jazz Street, Chinatown, | 0:54:41 | 0:54:45 | |
and every door was a jazz room. | 0:54:45 | 0:54:48 | |
At the end of the street was the San Francisco Jazz Room, | 0:54:48 | 0:54:52 | |
a big band could come through - Ellington, you know, anybody. | 0:54:52 | 0:54:58 | |
He comes to town and I am working across the street. | 0:54:58 | 0:55:02 | |
He comes over and says, "Hi, Anita. | 0:55:02 | 0:55:05 | |
"I got the music you wanted, come over and sing our arrangements." | 0:55:05 | 0:55:10 | |
So I took a break, I went over there, | 0:55:10 | 0:55:13 | |
I did a couple of the tunes that we had done and I don't know, | 0:55:13 | 0:55:18 | |
no big deal because all across the street, whatever... | 0:55:18 | 0:55:21 | |
It was beautiful. Nice fun. I was happy for him and shook his hand. | 0:55:21 | 0:55:25 | |
The next thing you know, this is like, say, | 0:55:27 | 0:55:30 | |
a Monday, and like, Thursday, | 0:55:30 | 0:55:35 | |
he took an OD and died. | 0:55:35 | 0:55:39 | |
It was the first hit he had ever had, | 0:55:39 | 0:55:41 | |
his first big opportunity and he was great. | 0:55:41 | 0:55:47 | |
The OD got him. That was a very short... | 0:55:47 | 0:55:50 | |
He could have done much, much more. A lot of arrangements like this. | 0:55:53 | 0:55:57 | |
I prefer his to many others but he is not around any more. | 0:55:57 | 0:56:02 | |
Got to watch that stuff, you know. That is the stuff you have to watch. | 0:56:02 | 0:56:06 | |
I, right away, marked her in my mind as a free soul. | 0:56:09 | 0:56:12 | |
She is a free soul, she's always been. | 0:56:12 | 0:56:15 | |
She just sang her butt off. She sounded wonderful on it. | 0:56:15 | 0:56:18 | |
"Something begins to run upstream | 0:56:23 | 0:56:25 | |
"and this is just some kind of a dream, | 0:56:25 | 0:56:28 | |
"I wouldn't be surprised because didn't you fall in love with me?" | 0:56:28 | 0:56:31 | |
Nice story. | 0:56:31 | 0:56:33 | |
It's not about notes or... It's not about effects or any of that. | 0:56:35 | 0:56:39 | |
It's about, you get into the song and make it live. | 0:56:39 | 0:56:43 | |
2002 we put together a collection of ten of our top female vocalists | 0:56:46 | 0:56:50 | |
into something called the Diva Series, | 0:56:50 | 0:56:51 | |
and artists like Ella Fitzgerald and Sarah Vaughn, | 0:56:51 | 0:56:54 | |
and we included Anita O'Day in that series | 0:56:54 | 0:56:56 | |
because she is obviously one of our most important vocalists. | 0:56:56 | 0:56:59 | |
It was like daydreaming. | 0:57:15 | 0:57:16 | |
And I said, "I'd like to make a movie before I'm 30." | 0:57:16 | 0:57:19 | |
Jazz On A Summer's Day. Yes, I didn't even know they were filming. | 0:57:21 | 0:57:25 | |
They catch me coming up to the step to enter the stage | 0:57:25 | 0:57:30 | |
and I step in a puddle, so my glass slipper goes into the puddle. | 0:57:30 | 0:57:33 | |
It shows me shaking my leg like this and I am dressed to the hilt | 0:57:33 | 0:57:39 | |
with a hat on to boot, and that was my entrance. | 0:57:39 | 0:57:41 | |
I presented Anita in the afternoon and she wore this wonderful hat. | 0:57:50 | 0:57:56 | |
And a black and white dress, | 0:57:56 | 0:57:57 | |
she was dressed perfectly for Newport summer day, | 0:57:57 | 0:58:01 | |
it was as if she had been born there. | 0:58:01 | 0:58:03 | |
I went in the day before the show and I said to Norman, | 0:58:09 | 0:58:12 | |
"What night am I on?" He says, "You are on Sunday afternoon." | 0:58:12 | 0:58:17 | |
I say, "Gee, thanks a lot(!)" | 0:58:17 | 0:58:19 | |
You know, so I go home and I lie down, and I am lying there | 0:58:19 | 0:58:22 | |
and all of a sudden I got this picture. | 0:58:22 | 0:58:24 | |
I went across the street to a dumb dress shop, | 0:58:29 | 0:58:32 | |
right across the street from this place where we were staying. | 0:58:32 | 0:58:35 | |
I picked out a frock, she says, | 0:58:35 | 0:58:38 | |
"I'll just take it in little bit for you." I says, "Nice." | 0:58:38 | 0:58:42 | |
I had glass slippers, OK? | 0:58:42 | 0:58:43 | |
I had little white gloves. | 0:58:48 | 0:58:50 | |
I said, "Gee, I'll just put my hair up. You got a hat?" | 0:58:50 | 0:58:54 | |
She comes out with a big straw hat with real ostrich feathers. | 0:58:54 | 0:58:58 | |
I was on at 4:50pm. I am dressed like the girl going to the | 0:58:58 | 0:59:01 | |
5 o'clock tea party. | 0:59:01 | 0:59:02 | |
I would swing my camera around in different moments | 0:59:02 | 0:59:06 | |
when something was going on, we couldn't shoot, say. | 0:59:06 | 0:59:09 | |
And I would look for people in the audience who were interesting - | 0:59:09 | 0:59:14 | |
the ice cream girl, | 0:59:14 | 0:59:16 | |
and my girlfriend, Dorothy. | 0:59:16 | 0:59:18 | |
# ..No gal made | 0:59:30 | 0:59:34 | |
# Got a shade on | 0:59:34 | 0:59:36 | |
# Georgia Brown | 0:59:36 | 0:59:40 | |
# Two left feet Oh so neat | 0:59:42 | 0:59:47 | |
# Georgia Brown... # | 0:59:47 | 0:59:52 | |
I happened to be on camera at the time, | 0:59:52 | 0:59:54 | |
so I shot all the footage of her. | 0:59:54 | 0:59:56 | |
And there was something about her that was just magical. | 0:59:56 | 0:59:59 | |
# ..Georgia Brown I'll tell you just why... # | 0:59:59 | 1:00:04 | |
I mean, I liked what she did, it was very exciting, so my feelings | 1:00:04 | 1:00:09 | |
for it were probably expressed in the way I shot it, | 1:00:09 | 1:00:13 | |
because I was very connected to her visually. | 1:00:13 | 1:00:15 | |
# ..She knocks them dead | 1:00:15 | 1:00:19 | |
# When she lands in town | 1:00:19 | 1:00:24 | |
# Since she came It's a shame | 1:00:24 | 1:00:29 | |
# How she cools them down... # | 1:00:29 | 1:00:34 | |
Would you have used drugs that day or would you wait until afterwards? | 1:00:39 | 1:00:42 | |
How does that work? | 1:00:42 | 1:00:44 | |
It doesn't go by day, it goes by hours. | 1:00:44 | 1:00:47 | |
It is a matter of how many hours. | 1:00:47 | 1:00:50 | |
You would have used some that day then? | 1:00:50 | 1:00:56 | |
I would say yes. | 1:00:56 | 1:00:58 | |
# ..Sweet Georgia Brown | 1:00:59 | 1:01:02 | |
# Doo-bee-bup Sweet Georgia Brown | 1:01:02 | 1:01:07 | |
# They all sigh, want to die for sweet Georgia Brown | 1:01:07 | 1:01:12 | |
# Tell you just why No, I don't lie | 1:01:12 | 1:01:17 | |
# Since she came It's a shame | 1:01:18 | 1:01:21 | |
# How she cools them down | 1:01:21 | 1:01:25 | |
# It's been said she knocks them dead | 1:01:25 | 1:01:27 | |
# When she lands in town | 1:01:27 | 1:01:29 | |
# The fellas she can't get | 1:01:29 | 1:01:35 | |
# Are fellas this girl has never met | 1:01:35 | 1:01:41 | |
# Georgia... | 1:01:41 | 1:01:44 | |
# Sweet... | 1:01:47 | 1:01:50 | |
# Georgia Brown. # | 1:01:50 | 1:01:56 | |
She sang Sweet Georgia Brown, | 1:02:02 | 1:02:03 | |
was one of the greatest vocal performances you ever heard. | 1:02:03 | 1:02:07 | |
That was the day she really did it, and knocked me out. | 1:02:07 | 1:02:11 | |
My estimation, her rendition, which has nothing to do with | 1:02:11 | 1:02:14 | |
the arrangement of Sweet Georgia Brown, | 1:02:14 | 1:02:18 | |
is absolutely as good as any jazz vocal ever, ever recorded. | 1:02:18 | 1:02:23 | |
That was the biggest thing to happen to me in my life. | 1:02:23 | 1:02:26 | |
That was the big event. | 1:02:26 | 1:02:27 | |
There were 150 musicians at this event | 1:02:27 | 1:02:30 | |
and out of all those people, male and female, there was | 1:02:30 | 1:02:35 | |
my picture in the Time magazine and nobody else was mentioned | 1:02:35 | 1:02:39 | |
and everybody you could name was in that show. | 1:02:39 | 1:02:42 | |
Japan picked me out and gave me a job where I made some money | 1:02:42 | 1:02:47 | |
because they pay big money. | 1:02:47 | 1:02:49 | |
Thank you very kindly. | 1:02:49 | 1:02:51 | |
It is wonderful being here in Japan and doing a television show | 1:02:51 | 1:02:54 | |
for everyone here. | 1:02:54 | 1:02:55 | |
# Love for sale | 1:02:58 | 1:03:01 | |
# Appetising young love for sale | 1:03:01 | 1:03:06 | |
# Love that's fresh and still unspoiled | 1:03:06 | 1:03:08 | |
# Love that is only slightly soiled | 1:03:08 | 1:03:11 | |
# Love for sale... # | 1:03:11 | 1:03:15 | |
One night after a set at the Half Note, Anita O'Day says, | 1:03:15 | 1:03:19 | |
"You know, I'm going to catch some air and walk around instead of | 1:03:19 | 1:03:23 | |
"staying in here and hanging out with the customers during the set break." | 1:03:23 | 1:03:28 | |
And Mike Camarino said, "OK." | 1:03:28 | 1:03:31 | |
Five years later, | 1:03:31 | 1:03:34 | |
she called him collect from the Philippines to borrow a grand | 1:03:34 | 1:03:38 | |
to get back to the States, and bless his heart he gave it to her. | 1:03:38 | 1:03:42 | |
# ..I came through the mill of love Old love, new love | 1:03:43 | 1:03:47 | |
# Every kind of love but true love | 1:03:47 | 1:03:49 | |
# Love for sale | 1:03:49 | 1:03:54 | |
# Appetising young love for sale | 1:03:54 | 1:03:58 | |
# If you want to buy my wares Follow me and climb the stairs | 1:03:58 | 1:04:03 | |
# Love for sale... # | 1:04:03 | 1:04:07 | |
# ..Love that is fresh and still unspoiled | 1:04:17 | 1:04:19 | |
# Love that's only slightly soiled | 1:04:19 | 1:04:21 | |
# Love for sale | 1:04:21 | 1:04:24 | |
# Who will buy? | 1:04:26 | 1:04:31 | |
# Who would like to sample my supply? | 1:04:31 | 1:04:36 | |
# Who's prepared to pay the price | 1:04:36 | 1:04:38 | |
# For a trip to paradise? | 1:04:38 | 1:04:40 | |
# Love for sale | 1:04:40 | 1:04:44 | |
# Let the poets pipe of love in their childish way | 1:04:45 | 1:04:49 | |
# I know every type of love far better than they | 1:04:49 | 1:04:54 | |
# If you want the thrill of love | 1:04:54 | 1:04:56 | |
# I have been through the mill of love | 1:04:56 | 1:04:59 | |
# Oh, love | 1:04:59 | 1:05:03 | |
# Oh, love | 1:05:03 | 1:05:05 | |
# Every kind of love but true love | 1:05:05 | 1:05:08 | |
# Love | 1:05:08 | 1:05:12 | |
# For sale | 1:05:12 | 1:05:13 | |
# Appetising young love for sale | 1:05:13 | 1:05:18 | |
# If you want to buy my wares Follow me and climb the stairs | 1:05:18 | 1:05:21 | |
# Love... | 1:05:21 | 1:05:27 | |
# For sale. # | 1:05:27 | 1:05:38 | |
You were once pronounced mental... No, what am I trying to say? | 1:05:45 | 1:05:50 | |
Legally dead? | 1:05:50 | 1:05:52 | |
-What's that all about? -SHE LAUGHS | 1:05:52 | 1:05:55 | |
When you arrive DOA | 1:05:55 | 1:05:58 | |
and they put the sheet over you, that is legally dead. | 1:05:58 | 1:06:02 | |
-What had happened? -I had a heart attack. | 1:06:02 | 1:06:05 | |
And then some doctor comes running in and says, "Wait a minute, | 1:06:05 | 1:06:08 | |
"let's try this new contraption or something," | 1:06:08 | 1:06:11 | |
and they throw the sheet off you and you come to, and this thing | 1:06:11 | 1:06:14 | |
is down here, bringing back your breathing and you are on your feet. | 1:06:14 | 1:06:18 | |
Now they think you've had a heart attack, see? | 1:06:18 | 1:06:20 | |
So when everybody leaves the room, you kind of get up like this, | 1:06:20 | 1:06:23 | |
grab your clothes and start to leave and the nurse comes screaming in, | 1:06:23 | 1:06:26 | |
"Wait a minute! You've had a heart attack, lay down in bed!" | 1:06:26 | 1:06:29 | |
In reality, it was just an OD at that time. | 1:06:29 | 1:06:32 | |
-It was an -OD? Yeah. | 1:06:32 | 1:06:33 | |
Could you work well on the hard stuff? | 1:06:33 | 1:06:36 | |
You really are not aware... | 1:06:36 | 1:06:37 | |
It's an anaesthetic, you are really not aware if you are working or not. | 1:06:37 | 1:06:41 | |
Billie, at the end, they used to just lead her to the band, push her up on the stand. | 1:06:41 | 1:06:45 | |
-And instinct took over? -Yeah, more or less. | 1:06:45 | 1:06:48 | |
I got down to about 101lb, | 1:06:48 | 1:06:51 | |
so I just literally ran out of energy. | 1:06:51 | 1:06:54 | |
I knew Bird very well and I knew Lady very well. | 1:06:54 | 1:06:58 | |
They had constitutions. They were strong. | 1:07:00 | 1:07:04 | |
I was lucky I got out. Miles couldn't get out. | 1:07:04 | 1:07:07 | |
Charlie Parker couldn't get out. Billie Holliday could get out. | 1:07:07 | 1:07:10 | |
Even though they might have been a great, | 1:07:10 | 1:07:12 | |
they did not have the judgement to know when to stop. | 1:07:12 | 1:07:17 | |
That is what it is all about. Not knowing when to stop. | 1:07:17 | 1:07:22 | |
You are spending 12 hours a day waiting for the guy on the corner. | 1:07:22 | 1:07:25 | |
That is a lot of time. | 1:07:25 | 1:07:27 | |
I was in it for 16 years, I didn't even realise it. Time passed me by. | 1:07:27 | 1:07:32 | |
"I'm into this so long, I have to get out of this thing. | 1:07:32 | 1:07:36 | |
"I can't get out." And you would say, "I have to get out today." | 1:07:36 | 1:07:40 | |
I was drawn to what I really perceived as being someone with a lot of courage. | 1:07:40 | 1:07:44 | |
I mean, I would go over there sometimes | 1:07:44 | 1:07:46 | |
and I mean she'd look really not great. | 1:07:46 | 1:07:48 | |
There were times that she would weep. | 1:07:48 | 1:07:51 | |
And...it's like there was nothing to say. | 1:07:51 | 1:07:57 | |
You could just... | 1:07:57 | 1:07:59 | |
only just hold her in that kind of pain that she was experiencing. | 1:07:59 | 1:08:03 | |
How did you finally quit? | 1:08:03 | 1:08:05 | |
I had a huge OD | 1:08:05 | 1:08:10 | |
and I said, "I think my body is trying to tell me something." | 1:08:10 | 1:08:13 | |
You've heard that one, haven't you? | 1:08:13 | 1:08:16 | |
So I survived that one, which was a heavy one. | 1:08:16 | 1:08:20 | |
I just took myself to Hawaii and the story like I told it was... | 1:08:20 | 1:08:28 | |
And then you get the chills and the shakes, you know? | 1:08:28 | 1:08:32 | |
No, I don't know, but I've seen the movies. | 1:08:32 | 1:08:34 | |
I've heard about it and seen the movie representations. | 1:08:34 | 1:08:38 | |
When you get the cold shakes laying in that hot sun in Hawaii | 1:08:38 | 1:08:40 | |
on the sand, which is so warm. | 1:08:40 | 1:08:42 | |
Then you perspire, the sweats, you just jump in the water. | 1:08:42 | 1:08:47 | |
I was there early, I am up there eight, nine o'clock, | 1:08:47 | 1:08:50 | |
the sun is just coming up and I am doing that routine. | 1:08:50 | 1:08:53 | |
I did five months, never missed a day. | 1:08:53 | 1:08:55 | |
You have to have something to do because when the thought | 1:08:55 | 1:08:58 | |
comes around again, you have to have something to cover the thought. | 1:08:58 | 1:09:01 | |
What is better than jumping into the water that is up to here | 1:09:01 | 1:09:04 | |
and the sun is shining and you just dabble, nobody's bugging you? | 1:09:04 | 1:09:11 | |
Now you get out there and you lay in the sun for 12 hours, which | 1:09:11 | 1:09:14 | |
I shouldn't have done. I have a whole bunch of brown spots. | 1:09:14 | 1:09:17 | |
They didn't turn into cancer. | 1:09:17 | 1:09:19 | |
I am light skinned, I freckle galore like that and I was | 1:09:19 | 1:09:23 | |
so determined to quit the thing that I just stayed there in the sun. | 1:09:23 | 1:09:28 | |
It was the hardest thing I ever had to do. | 1:09:28 | 1:09:31 | |
I quit drinking, which was really hard too, | 1:09:31 | 1:09:35 | |
and whatever other little habits you might get, like cutting | 1:09:35 | 1:09:38 | |
your hair too much or whatever, just habits, habits, habits. | 1:09:38 | 1:09:42 | |
I can quit that. I can quit that. | 1:09:42 | 1:09:45 | |
It was hard to quit that, but what I went through to do it | 1:09:45 | 1:09:49 | |
deserved that much, so then I was free. | 1:09:49 | 1:09:53 | |
That's right. | 1:09:53 | 1:09:54 | |
Your personal experiences since then include rape, abortion, jail, | 1:09:57 | 1:10:02 | |
heroin addiction. | 1:10:02 | 1:10:04 | |
You have been reading my book High Times, Hard Times. | 1:10:04 | 1:10:06 | |
Yeah, I did, in fact, you made one comment in there, you said, | 1:10:06 | 1:10:09 | |
"All you can do in this world is learn how to be a good loser." | 1:10:09 | 1:10:12 | |
That sounds like a very embittered performer. | 1:10:12 | 1:10:14 | |
No, that is just the result of how it goes down | 1:10:14 | 1:10:16 | |
and what is wrong with that? | 1:10:16 | 1:10:18 | |
All you can learn to be a good loser. That keeps you smiling. | 1:10:18 | 1:10:21 | |
Can you smile about those times? | 1:10:21 | 1:10:23 | |
Well, it is in the past, I can smile about that. | 1:10:23 | 1:10:25 | |
And yet you beat them. Why did you beat them, why were you able to? | 1:10:25 | 1:10:28 | |
So many of your contemporaries got caught up in so many | 1:10:28 | 1:10:30 | |
of the same kind of problems and didn't make it. | 1:10:30 | 1:10:33 | |
That's a good question. Maybe I believe. | 1:10:33 | 1:10:36 | |
In those days you didn't. | 1:10:36 | 1:10:37 | |
I believed in something, I'm still here. | 1:10:37 | 1:10:39 | |
Well, it doesn't sound like a believer who comes out after | 1:10:39 | 1:10:42 | |
a marijuana bust when everybody says she was a junky, | 1:10:42 | 1:10:45 | |
and then comes out and says, | 1:10:45 | 1:10:46 | |
"Well, since they're calling me one, I'll be one." | 1:10:46 | 1:10:49 | |
Yeah, well, that is just the way it went down, Bryant. | 1:10:49 | 1:10:52 | |
A lot of times her personality was such that she kind of covered it. | 1:10:56 | 1:10:59 | |
She had a facade that everything's fine | 1:10:59 | 1:11:02 | |
and talkin' a little jive talk, and then she might be very down. | 1:11:02 | 1:11:07 | |
She referred to her spiritual leader as a god, the maker, | 1:11:07 | 1:11:12 | |
the man upstairs, | 1:11:12 | 1:11:14 | |
"He's given me a break," that sort of thing | 1:11:14 | 1:11:19 | |
and with a very solemn voice. | 1:11:19 | 1:11:21 | |
I'd like to take a second out to formally | 1:11:27 | 1:11:29 | |
introduce my percussionist who is not feeling too well this evening. | 1:11:29 | 1:11:32 | |
Hither or thither. We've been together 32 years this week. | 1:11:32 | 1:11:36 | |
That's a long time for a partner, yeah! Through four marriages. | 1:11:36 | 1:11:42 | |
I think John Poole was looking after her. | 1:11:42 | 1:11:44 | |
One of the big disappointments, he was on drugs, | 1:11:44 | 1:11:47 | |
got back on it. I think he hit her inadvertently out of frustration. | 1:11:47 | 1:11:51 | |
But that broke her heart. | 1:11:51 | 1:11:52 | |
She thought, "He's like my brother, how can he dare hit me?" | 1:11:52 | 1:11:55 | |
And that ended it just like that, it hurt her so much. | 1:11:55 | 1:11:59 | |
He recently died and I sure miss him, but I just lost my partner. | 1:12:01 | 1:12:06 | |
Well, what happened was I was living in a trailer | 1:12:29 | 1:12:33 | |
and I went out the back door, my puppy dog went out the back door, | 1:12:33 | 1:12:36 | |
and I tripped on five steps and fell on the concrete and broke my arm. | 1:12:36 | 1:12:40 | |
Now I am put into the hospital and they are fixing my arm | 1:12:40 | 1:12:45 | |
and they did it wrong, so they put me in another hospital | 1:12:45 | 1:12:48 | |
and they did that wrong and I got blood poisoning. | 1:12:48 | 1:12:52 | |
Then they put me in another hospital and I got pneumonia | 1:12:52 | 1:12:55 | |
and they put this thing over my face and nose and I said, "No." | 1:12:55 | 1:13:00 | |
He said, "Only eight minutes." | 1:13:00 | 1:13:03 | |
At my bed, the clock was right there, | 1:13:03 | 1:13:06 | |
came back in 30 minutes, burned my throat. I can hardly swallow, | 1:13:06 | 1:13:12 | |
I couldn't eat for a month, they had to put a hole in | 1:13:12 | 1:13:15 | |
my stomach and fed me up from this thing hanging down from up above. | 1:13:15 | 1:13:19 | |
Gook! It wasn't even real food. I got to 86lb | 1:13:19 | 1:13:23 | |
and all I had was a broken arm. | 1:13:23 | 1:13:25 | |
The hospital said, "She's got 72 hours to live." | 1:13:25 | 1:13:28 | |
And I'd go in and sit by her bedside and say, "Anita, can you hear me?" | 1:13:28 | 1:13:31 | |
And I'd take her hand and say, "Squeeze my hand if you can hear me." | 1:13:31 | 1:13:35 | |
And she'd squeeze it. I said, "I know you can hear me." | 1:13:35 | 1:13:37 | |
I said, "Anita, you don't dare die on me now, or on yourself." | 1:13:37 | 1:13:41 | |
I was in there from like '96, '97, '98. | 1:13:41 | 1:13:46 | |
I got into a home where you wheel yourself in, or they wheel you in, | 1:13:46 | 1:13:51 | |
for another year and now I am in a place where you can have walk outs, | 1:13:51 | 1:13:57 | |
you can hire a cab, go out and come back | 1:13:57 | 1:13:59 | |
and they serve three meals a day. It is very nice. | 1:13:59 | 1:14:02 | |
I have my own bed, records, I have company, | 1:14:02 | 1:14:06 | |
and I am singing one time a week, but the voice, | 1:14:06 | 1:14:10 | |
that was hard when they took my voice away to boot, | 1:14:10 | 1:14:13 | |
and all I had was a broken arm. | 1:14:13 | 1:14:15 | |
Folks, you might as well come on down and lose. | 1:14:28 | 1:14:32 | |
It is even better just to lose. | 1:14:32 | 1:14:34 | |
She has often said, "It's just my daily work, it's what I do, | 1:14:41 | 1:14:45 | |
"I go to work at night." | 1:14:45 | 1:14:49 | |
She would like you to think that it's... | 1:14:49 | 1:14:52 | |
it doesn't mean very much to her finally, punching the clock. | 1:14:52 | 1:14:57 | |
But if she's now in her 80s and still longing to sing | 1:14:57 | 1:15:01 | |
and longing to record and longing to rehearse, | 1:15:01 | 1:15:05 | |
then we know it means a little bit more to her than that. | 1:15:05 | 1:15:08 | |
The last time I saw Anita perform | 1:16:13 | 1:16:15 | |
was 2004, here in Manhattan at Iridium. | 1:16:15 | 1:16:18 | |
It's a performance I will not soon forget. | 1:16:18 | 1:16:21 | |
It was so off the wall in that particular Anita O'Day way. | 1:16:21 | 1:16:27 | |
And you just never knew what was going to happen next. | 1:16:27 | 1:16:31 | |
-Can I hear the melody? -LAUGHTER | 1:16:31 | 1:16:35 | |
No? OK. | 1:16:35 | 1:16:39 | |
Oh, you're the one that plays the melody. | 1:16:41 | 1:16:45 | |
LAUGHTER | 1:16:45 | 1:16:47 | |
The audience was... First of all, the room was packed | 1:16:47 | 1:16:50 | |
and there were lots and lots of young people there. | 1:16:50 | 1:16:53 | |
Why they were there, where they came from, I don't know, | 1:16:53 | 1:16:55 | |
but I can tell you that they were really riveted. | 1:16:55 | 1:16:58 | |
Ms Anita O'Day! Yes! | 1:16:58 | 1:17:00 | |
She was singing her songs off of music, off of lyric sheets | 1:17:00 | 1:17:06 | |
because she can't remember words, but with | 1:17:06 | 1:17:08 | |
the words in front of her, she can really remember everything else. | 1:17:08 | 1:17:13 | |
# The way you're acting lately it makes me doubt... # | 1:17:13 | 1:17:16 | |
-I was in three keys. -LAUGHTER | 1:17:16 | 1:17:18 | |
I think it's very brave. | 1:17:18 | 1:17:21 | |
I think it's... A lot of people wouldn't do that. | 1:17:22 | 1:17:28 | |
# ..Is you is or is you ain't my baby? # | 1:17:28 | 1:17:33 | |
I thought maybe, maybe she should throw in the shoes. | 1:17:33 | 1:17:39 | |
You know, and now that I've heard her new record, | 1:17:39 | 1:17:46 | |
I'm glad she didn't. | 1:17:46 | 1:17:50 | |
It'd make a nice follow up to Incomparable, | 1:17:53 | 1:17:55 | |
however many years later, about 40 years later? | 1:17:55 | 1:17:58 | |
Over 40 years later, to have another one called Indestructible? | 1:17:58 | 1:18:01 | |
# Blue skies smiling at me... # | 1:18:02 | 1:18:06 | |
What she's doing on this record she created, | 1:18:06 | 1:18:09 | |
that's something you can say of very, very few singers | 1:18:09 | 1:18:12 | |
in popular music history, | 1:18:12 | 1:18:15 | |
that nobody was doing that before she came along. | 1:18:15 | 1:18:18 | |
And continues to be able to bring those songs to life | 1:18:18 | 1:18:21 | |
and you can hear her story in those songs. | 1:18:21 | 1:18:24 | |
Anita's just recorded a brand-new CD aged 86. | 1:18:26 | 1:18:31 | |
She would love nothing more than to see you guys dance to a song from the new album. | 1:18:33 | 1:18:38 | |
# Don't talk too much | 1:18:40 | 1:18:44 | |
# Don't love too much | 1:18:44 | 1:18:47 | |
# Don't be too hip | 1:18:47 | 1:18:49 | |
# Because a slip of the lip might sink a ship... # | 1:18:49 | 1:18:52 | |
Thank you so much for all the music over the years. Thank you so much. | 1:18:54 | 1:19:00 | |
You know even on this date, remember when we was down there, | 1:19:00 | 1:19:03 | |
she told the piano player, "No, we're playing jazz, | 1:19:03 | 1:19:06 | |
"I want you to play, I want you to play." | 1:19:06 | 1:19:08 | |
I knew what she meant. | 1:19:08 | 1:19:10 | |
"This can't be love." | 1:19:10 | 1:19:12 | |
I've never heard anybody quite say it like hat. | 1:19:12 | 1:19:14 | |
And then all of a sudden, as is so often the case with Anita's music, | 1:19:14 | 1:19:17 | |
you'll think, "Oh, that's what that means. | 1:19:17 | 1:19:20 | |
She's a person that's really adventurous | 1:19:28 | 1:19:31 | |
where music is concerned. | 1:19:31 | 1:19:32 | |
She wants to move on, | 1:19:32 | 1:19:34 | |
like she's staying here all this time. | 1:19:34 | 1:19:37 | |
Me staying here in this business as an old man? | 1:19:37 | 1:19:42 | |
You know, I'm 87 years old. | 1:19:42 | 1:19:45 | |
You know, 87! I shouldn't kick about a thing. | 1:19:45 | 1:19:47 | |
"What a life I've had, huh? | 1:19:47 | 1:19:50 | |
"And I'm still trying to get more." | 1:19:50 | 1:19:52 | |
And it's the same thing, and I think that's beautiful. | 1:19:52 | 1:19:56 | |
There's a whole life in that voice. | 1:19:56 | 1:19:59 | |
I mean, what is more beautiful? | 1:19:59 | 1:20:01 | |
So yes, you're older, you're more mature, | 1:20:01 | 1:20:06 | |
you don't have the range that you had, | 1:20:06 | 1:20:10 | |
but it's a life. | 1:20:10 | 1:20:11 | |
# When you're in my arms | 1:20:13 | 1:20:15 | |
# And I feel you so close to me... # | 1:20:19 | 1:20:23 | |
When she sings The Nearness of You, she's so vulnerable | 1:20:27 | 1:20:31 | |
and she seems so sincere, | 1:20:31 | 1:20:33 | |
there's always that sincerity that Anita's work always had. | 1:20:33 | 1:20:37 | |
This is a quality that Anita has always prized in other artists. | 1:20:37 | 1:20:41 | |
# ..I need no soft lights | 1:20:41 | 1:20:46 | |
# To enchant me | 1:20:46 | 1:20:49 | |
# If you would only grant me | 1:20:51 | 1:20:56 | |
# The right | 1:20:59 | 1:21:02 | |
# To hold you ever so tight | 1:21:04 | 1:21:08 | |
# And to feel in the night | 1:21:13 | 1:21:16 | |
# The nearness | 1:21:20 | 1:21:24 | |
# Of you. # | 1:21:24 | 1:21:26 | |
This is a woman who was almost born singing | 1:21:28 | 1:21:31 | |
and who will die singing because there ain't nothing else. | 1:21:31 | 1:21:34 | |
As long as she wants to sing... | 1:21:35 | 1:21:41 | |
I'll be around to hear it. | 1:21:41 | 1:21:42 | |
So you played today, you don't worry about what has gone | 1:21:44 | 1:21:47 | |
because that has already gone and you can't bring what has gone back. | 1:21:47 | 1:21:52 | |
It doesn't happen that way, so every day is a new day and just | 1:21:52 | 1:21:57 | |
play it as it comes and I turned out to be a singer that was not on dope. | 1:21:57 | 1:22:03 | |
And this time we do a ballad. Ballad. | 1:22:10 | 1:22:13 | |
# How strange it was How sweet and strange | 1:22:15 | 1:22:20 | |
# There was never a dream to compare | 1:22:20 | 1:22:25 | |
# With that hazy, crazy night we met | 1:22:25 | 1:22:30 | |
# And the nightingale sang in Berkeley Square | 1:22:30 | 1:22:38 | |
# This heart of mine beat loud and fast | 1:22:42 | 1:22:47 | |
# Like a merry-go-round in a fair | 1:22:47 | 1:22:52 | |
# For we were dancing cheek to cheek | 1:22:52 | 1:22:56 | |
# And the nightingale sang in Berkeley Square | 1:22:56 | 1:23:08 | |
# When dawn came stealing up all gold and blue | 1:23:12 | 1:23:19 | |
# To interrupt | 1:23:19 | 1:23:23 | |
# Our rendezvous | 1:23:23 | 1:23:26 | |
# I still remember | 1:23:26 | 1:23:30 | |
# How you smiled and said | 1:23:30 | 1:23:34 | |
# Was that a dream or was it true? | 1:23:34 | 1:23:40 | |
# Our homeward step was just as light | 1:23:41 | 1:23:47 | |
# As the tap dancing feet of Astaire | 1:23:47 | 1:23:51 | |
# And like an echo far away | 1:23:51 | 1:23:57 | |
# When a nightingale sang in Berkeley Square | 1:23:57 | 1:24:04 | |
# I know cos I was there | 1:24:05 | 1:24:09 | |
# That night | 1:24:09 | 1:24:11 | |
# In Berkeley Square... # | 1:24:11 | 1:24:24 | |
APPLAUSE | 1:24:27 | 1:24:31 | |
By all rights, she should have been gone with a lot of the other | 1:25:19 | 1:25:22 | |
people that passed away from her era, and she outlived them all. | 1:25:22 | 1:25:26 | |
I love Anita. | 1:25:26 | 1:25:28 | |
And I think she should be in every hall of fame. | 1:25:28 | 1:25:32 | |
When you look at the overall career it's just, you know, | 1:25:32 | 1:25:34 | |
a staggering achievement and the fact that she's been | 1:25:34 | 1:25:37 | |
so indestructible, she's by far the last surviving member, | 1:25:37 | 1:25:42 | |
she's sort of the last great jazz singer from the golden age. | 1:25:42 | 1:25:46 | |
Nothing surprises me about Anita O'Day, | 1:25:46 | 1:25:48 | |
and yet why I'm always surprised that she comes back with vengeance? | 1:25:48 | 1:25:52 | |
I don't know why I'm surprised any more. | 1:25:52 | 1:25:54 | |
Nobody sounded like Anita O'Day, ever. | 1:25:54 | 1:25:57 | |
She doesn't... She didn't borrow from anyone. | 1:25:57 | 1:26:00 | |
Others borrowed from her later. | 1:26:00 | 1:26:02 | |
I would say that Anita O'Day was one of the top. | 1:26:02 | 1:26:06 | |
Anita wasn't appreciated nearly as much as she should have been. | 1:26:06 | 1:26:11 | |
What a real talent. | 1:26:11 | 1:26:13 | |
She'd crack me up. | 1:26:13 | 1:26:14 | |
She was a funny lady. She knew some dirty jokes. | 1:26:14 | 1:26:19 | |
She has angels watching over her. | 1:26:19 | 1:26:20 | |
And there's someone like Anita O'Day who did nothing ever that was | 1:26:22 | 1:26:26 | |
laid out for her. | 1:26:26 | 1:26:27 | |
Everything was improvised from moment to moment. | 1:26:27 | 1:26:30 | |
And she just took huge chances | 1:26:30 | 1:26:31 | |
because she knew no other way to live. | 1:26:31 | 1:26:34 | |
I think she is one of the country's rare treasures. | 1:26:34 | 1:26:39 | |
To go through all that she's gone through in life - | 1:26:39 | 1:26:42 | |
drug addiction, all the other problems that musicians have... | 1:26:42 | 1:26:49 | |
See, I still call her a musician, not a singer, right? | 1:26:49 | 1:26:52 | |
All the new jazz singers really did copy her style. | 1:26:52 | 1:26:55 | |
It's never show off, it's always delight. | 1:26:55 | 1:26:59 | |
One time she said, "May you live as long as you want | 1:26:59 | 1:27:01 | |
"and may you never want as long as you live." | 1:27:01 | 1:27:03 | |
She had a way with words besides being a fantastic entertainer. | 1:27:03 | 1:27:07 | |
She's a force of nature. | 1:27:07 | 1:27:08 | |
She said, "I'm like a flower, blooming for the last time." | 1:27:08 | 1:27:12 | |
And I said, "Anita, why do you say it's the last time?" | 1:27:12 | 1:27:15 | |
And she said, "Every time I've ever bloomed again, | 1:27:15 | 1:27:18 | |
"I always thought it was going to be the last time." | 1:27:18 | 1:27:21 |