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You only had to hear three notes and you knew it was her. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
That's a great thing about a singer. | 0:00:04 | 0:00:08 | |
# The look of love | 0:00:08 | 0:00:12 | |
# Is in... # | 0:00:13 | 0:00:15 | |
Part of her attraction was that | 0:00:15 | 0:00:18 | |
she was a white girl who could sing that fabulous black R'n'B music. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:23 | |
Because that's what I loved. That, to me, was yes! Yes! | 0:00:23 | 0:00:28 | |
And that was what girl power was in the 60s. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:31 | |
# The only one who could ever reach me | 0:00:31 | 0:00:34 | |
# Was the son of a preacher man | 0:00:34 | 0:00:36 | |
# The only boy... # | 0:00:36 | 0:00:38 | |
I think Dusty does sum up the fabness of the 60s | 0:00:38 | 0:00:42 | |
with her voice and with the hairdo. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:45 | |
The kind of bouffant hairdo. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:48 | |
And, of course, the trademark eye make-up made her very iconic. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:53 | |
# I think I'm going back... # | 0:00:53 | 0:00:57 | |
There was a vulnerability about her voice | 0:00:57 | 0:01:01 | |
and her personality which attracted me to her. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:06 | |
I think that's what attracts the public | 0:01:06 | 0:01:08 | |
to great singers and personalities from show business, | 0:01:08 | 0:01:12 | |
is their vulnerability. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:14 | |
They're waiting for them to crack open at any second. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
# Dusty Springfield | 0:01:21 | 0:01:23 | |
# That's a pretty name, it even sounds like a game | 0:01:24 | 0:01:29 | |
# In a green field | 0:01:30 | 0:01:33 | |
# Hobby horses play the dusty game when it's May | 0:01:33 | 0:01:37 | |
# Pink and paisley skies | 0:01:40 | 0:01:43 | |
# Shining in green eyes, a magic pinwheel | 0:01:43 | 0:01:47 | |
# London flowers fair | 0:01:49 | 0:01:52 | |
# Blooming in her hair | 0:01:52 | 0:01:55 | |
# Dusty Springfield. # | 0:01:55 | 0:01:58 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:01:58 | 0:02:03 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:02:03 | 0:02:06 | |
# When I said I needed you | 0:02:16 | 0:02:23 | |
# You said you would always stay | 0:02:23 | 0:02:29 | |
# It wasn't me who changed but you | 0:02:30 | 0:02:35 | |
# And now you're far away | 0:02:35 | 0:02:41 | |
# Don't you see that now you've gone | 0:02:43 | 0:02:49 | |
# And I'm left here on my own... # | 0:02:50 | 0:02:54 | |
Since the death of Dusty Springfield in March 1999, | 0:02:57 | 0:03:00 | |
just short of her 60th birthday, | 0:03:00 | 0:03:03 | |
fans and musicians have continued to celebrate | 0:03:03 | 0:03:05 | |
one of Britain's greatest ever singers. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:07 | |
# You don't have to say you love me... # | 0:03:07 | 0:03:12 | |
Born Mary Isobel Catherine O'Brien | 0:03:17 | 0:03:20 | |
to Anglo-Irish-Scottish parents, | 0:03:20 | 0:03:22 | |
she became the original 60s Brit girl, | 0:03:22 | 0:03:26 | |
the so-called "white negress," a gay icon, a diva. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:29 | |
# ..Till I do, all I see is you... # | 0:03:31 | 0:03:35 | |
Over a career spanning four decades, | 0:03:35 | 0:03:38 | |
Dusty's glamorous image was to be as much her hallmark as her voice. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:42 | |
But it masked a deeply private person. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:45 | |
Dusty herself was torn between two characters - | 0:03:45 | 0:03:48 | |
Mary O'Brien, the plain, insecure redhead, | 0:03:48 | 0:03:51 | |
and Dusty Springfield, the star she created. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:55 | |
A household name, she both invited attention and shunned it. | 0:03:55 | 0:04:00 | |
This is the story of the Dusty we thought we knew. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:03 | |
# You don't have to say you love me | 0:04:03 | 0:04:06 | |
# Just be close at hand | 0:04:06 | 0:04:09 | |
# You don't have to stay for ever | 0:04:09 | 0:04:13 | |
# I will understand | 0:04:13 | 0:04:16 | |
# Believe me | 0:04:16 | 0:04:19 | |
# Believe me | 0:04:19 | 0:04:23 | |
# You don't have to say you love me... # | 0:04:23 | 0:04:26 | |
I have a theme song. It's Oh, Lord, Please Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:31 | |
I'm the most misquoted and misunderstood person I know. Honest. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:36 | |
# Here she comes, here she comes... # | 0:04:40 | 0:04:45 | |
Dusty hated work. She hated singing, she hated performing. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:50 | |
Motivation was money. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:51 | |
It was a means to an end. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:53 | |
It was the only thing she could think of to do to make any money, | 0:04:53 | 0:04:56 | |
and so she had to sing. | 0:04:56 | 0:04:59 | |
# See all her faces... # | 0:04:59 | 0:05:05 | |
I think she sang because | 0:05:05 | 0:05:07 | |
she needed to be loved for who she was. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:11 | |
And she was never sure. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:14 | |
She didn't trust herself and she didn't trust anybody | 0:05:14 | 0:05:18 | |
and she never trusted her ability to sing and to move and to touch people. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:23 | |
# ..I'm looking for someone of the gentle kind | 0:05:23 | 0:05:28 | |
# Knowing that looks can lie... # | 0:05:28 | 0:05:31 | |
Basically, she was very shy. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:33 | |
On stage, I don't know what happened to her because she became another person. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:40 | |
Before she went on she'd go red all the way down here with sheer panic. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:45 | |
She couldn't find things, she'd be nervous, she'd be tripping over. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:50 | |
"Is this right? Is that right?" | 0:05:50 | 0:05:52 | |
She'd go on and there was the star. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:56 | |
# Look at her now | 0:05:56 | 0:05:58 | |
# She needs love so much more, so much... # | 0:05:58 | 0:06:02 | |
She used to call them somebody else. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:05 | |
Dusty was Dusty Springfield and she was Mary O'Brien. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:09 | |
There was two people. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:11 | |
I mean, she transformed. As soon as the fingernails went on and the hair was done, that was Dusty. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:18 | |
She became Dusty then. She was two people. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:22 | |
# ..See all her faces | 0:06:22 | 0:06:24 | |
# See all her faces... # | 0:06:24 | 0:06:31 | |
At 13, I was pure St Trinian's. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:35 | |
The hockey sticks, the works, round glasses, Panama hat, a disaster area. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:40 | |
And then, I guess it was really an overnight thing, | 0:06:40 | 0:06:44 | |
that I decided I must change. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:47 | |
I realised this person looking at me in the mirror would not make it. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:52 | |
I decided I wanted to be someone else so I became someone else. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:57 | |
Now I'm trying to find the other one. | 0:06:57 | 0:06:59 | |
# ..See all her faces... # | 0:06:59 | 0:07:06 | |
# All together, girls, one, two, three... # | 0:07:06 | 0:07:09 | |
Dusty shocked the nuns by saying she wanted to be a blues singer. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:14 | |
After playing the London folk clubs with her brother Tom, | 0:07:14 | 0:07:19 | |
the 19-year-old Dusty joined vocal harmony trio The Lana Sisters. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:24 | |
# Did you really | 0:07:24 | 0:07:26 | |
# Mighty colour of the moonlight | 0:07:26 | 0:07:29 | |
# Let my baby know I miss him | 0:07:29 | 0:07:32 | |
# Let him know I long to kiss him... # | 0:07:32 | 0:07:35 | |
# Silver threads and golden needles Cannot mend this heart... # | 0:07:43 | 0:07:49 | |
In 1960, Dusty rejoined her brother Tom to form The Springfields. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:54 | |
Third member, Tim Field was replaced the following year by Mike Hurst, | 0:07:54 | 0:07:59 | |
in time for their biggest British hit, Island Of Dreams. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:03 | |
# I wander the streets | 0:08:07 | 0:08:11 | |
# And the gay crowded places | 0:08:11 | 0:08:15 | |
# Trying to forget you | 0:08:15 | 0:08:19 | |
# But somehow it seems | 0:08:19 | 0:08:22 | |
# That my thoughts ever stray... # | 0:08:22 | 0:08:25 | |
I was aware immediately how great her voice was | 0:08:25 | 0:08:29 | |
compared to the other female singers of the day. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:33 | |
1962-63. The quality of her voice was unique. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:37 | |
# ..High in the sky | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
# Is a bird on the wing | 0:08:41 | 0:08:45 | |
# Please carry me with you... # | 0:08:45 | 0:08:53 | |
Smile. That was the whole thing. Tom used to say it all the time, | 0:08:53 | 0:08:59 | |
"Just smile." And he hated it anyway. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:02 | |
He had this sort of fixed smile on his face which never left him. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:07 | |
So that's the way it was. It was very, very MOR, very cabaret. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:11 | |
That isn't what Dusty wanted. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:14 | |
# Sing a little song that you can't resist | 0:09:14 | 0:09:16 | |
# Que bonita maraca bamba | 0:09:16 | 0:09:17 | |
# Maraca bamba | 0:09:17 | 0:09:19 | |
# Round and round inside your brain | 0:09:19 | 0:09:21 | |
# Que bonita maraca bamba | 0:09:21 | 0:09:23 | |
# Hey, maraca bamba | 0:09:23 | 0:09:24 | |
# Well, now, we're gonna sing again | 0:09:24 | 0:09:26 | |
# Que bonita maraca bamba | 0:09:26 | 0:09:29 | |
# Bamba, bamba! # | 0:09:29 | 0:09:31 | |
# Get ready cos here I come | 0:09:43 | 0:09:45 | |
# I'm on my way | 0:09:45 | 0:09:47 | |
# Get ready cos here I come | 0:09:47 | 0:09:50 | |
# Get ready cos here I come | 0:09:50 | 0:09:53 | |
# Get ready cos here I come | 0:09:53 | 0:09:55 | |
# I'm on my way | 0:09:55 | 0:09:57 | |
# Get ready cos here I come | 0:09:57 | 0:09:59 | |
# Get ready cos here I come. # | 0:09:59 | 0:10:02 | |
# I don't know what it is that makes me love you so | 0:10:12 | 0:10:15 | |
# I only know I never wanna let you go | 0:10:15 | 0:10:19 | |
# Cos you've started something, oh, can't you see | 0:10:19 | 0:10:22 | |
# That ever since we met you've had a hold on me | 0:10:22 | 0:10:26 | |
# It happens to be true | 0:10:26 | 0:10:30 | |
# I only wanna be with you | 0:10:30 | 0:10:33 | |
# Yeah | 0:10:33 | 0:10:34 | |
# It doesn't matter where you go or what you do | 0:10:34 | 0:10:37 | |
# I wanna spend each moment of the day with you... # | 0:10:37 | 0:10:41 | |
Dusty the solo singer burst onto the scene in 1963 | 0:10:41 | 0:10:45 | |
and was an immediate success. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:48 | |
But her rise to stardom was not without difficulty. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:52 | |
# ..I only wanna be with you, yeah. # | 0:10:52 | 0:10:56 | |
# You stopped and smiled at me | 0:10:56 | 0:10:59 | |
# Asked if I care to dance... # | 0:10:59 | 0:11:02 | |
DUSTY: She's somebody else. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:05 | |
Basically, I'm quite a shy person to take on the mantle of a performer. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:11 | |
It's not an easy act. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:13 | |
She had to go on stage | 0:11:13 | 0:11:15 | |
and be this big, strong woman | 0:11:15 | 0:11:20 | |
who had so much power and could captivate thousands of people. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:25 | |
But when she went home, she was that scared little girl cos that's what she was. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:31 | |
I identified with her in that situation. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:36 | |
She was very insecure about the way she looked. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:40 | |
She had great self-doubt. But that sometimes makes a great artist. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:44 | |
People think of, you know, the glamorous Dusty that they saw on TV | 0:11:44 | 0:11:49 | |
but that wasn't probably the real her. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:52 | |
# Why don't you stop | 0:11:52 | 0:11:56 | |
Stop | 0:11:55 | 0:11:56 | |
# And look me over | 0:11:56 | 0:11:59 | |
Me over | 0:11:58 | 0:11:59 | |
# Am I the same girl you used to know...? # | 0:11:59 | 0:12:03 | |
I think she saw Dusty Springfield as a creation | 0:12:05 | 0:12:09 | |
in many ways. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
And a creation that took a long time to dress up in. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:17 | |
Getting ready to be Dusty took hours. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:19 | |
She would have looked great in half an hour, I'm sure. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:24 | |
But her insecurities were in charge. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:27 | |
And maybe a bit of obsessiveness too. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:29 | |
# Am I the same girl? | 0:12:29 | 0:12:32 | |
# Yes I am, yes I am... # | 0:12:32 | 0:12:35 | |
She really went through it to be beautiful. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:40 | |
Because she was small, she was only 5' 3". | 0:12:40 | 0:12:43 | |
So to have to wear high heels but not too high because she didn't want to look stupid | 0:12:43 | 0:12:50 | |
and this hair, and people said "Does she take her make-up off?" | 0:12:50 | 0:12:55 | |
To my knowledge, she kept the black on. She'd blot it. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:59 | |
But she would keep it on and she could hide behind that. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:03 | |
I find it an effort to keep up appearances. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:07 | |
Cos it takes so long. I'd rather be asleep. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:11 | |
It's very hard to describe oneself anyway because you don't see... | 0:13:11 | 0:13:16 | |
I'm very short-sighted so I'm constantly peering in mirrors. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:21 | |
And people say, "God, isn't she conceited!" and I can't see anything. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:26 | |
I can look in a mirror and I can't see how much eye black I've got on. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:31 | |
I just know I've got a lot on. I can't see the ends of my fingers. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:35 | |
She couldn't see people until they were really close up to her | 0:13:35 | 0:13:40 | |
which, she said, was an advantage because she was so insecure of having to deal with people. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:47 | |
One of her... One of my favourite of her expressions: | 0:13:47 | 0:13:52 | |
"Never let yourself be too get-at-able." | 0:13:52 | 0:13:55 | |
And she said, "Being in my position, being so short-sighted, | 0:13:55 | 0:14:00 | |
"it means people have to come close in order for me to recognise them. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:05 | |
"If they're over there, I don't have to speak to them - I can't see them." | 0:14:05 | 0:14:10 | |
Her and Sandie Shaw were the two blindest pop singers of the 60s. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:15 | |
Sandie Shaw was known for being barefoot, she should have been known for being partially blind. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:22 | |
Poor thing. But Dusty did use the make-up as a bit of a mask. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:27 | |
Everything was all part of a mask. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:30 | |
# ..Bailando con mi amigo | 0:14:30 | 0:14:33 | |
# Aqui todos ven por aqui | 0:14:33 | 0:14:37 | |
# Chicos y chicas | 0:14:37 | 0:14:39 | |
# Ven a bailar | 0:14:39 | 0:14:42 | |
# El baile... # | 0:14:42 | 0:14:44 | |
# Let's take a trip in a trailer No need to come back... # | 0:14:44 | 0:14:48 | |
With this transformation to glamorous star complete, | 0:14:48 | 0:14:51 | |
Dusty had a string of hits in the 60s and hosted a TV show. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:55 | |
# When I throw my arms out wide | 0:14:55 | 0:14:58 | |
# I find that you're not by my side... # | 0:14:58 | 0:15:02 | |
She seemed to be able to sing anything whilst remaining distinctively Dusty. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:09 | |
# ..all I see is you. # | 0:15:09 | 0:15:12 | |
# Everybody, have you heard | 0:15:12 | 0:15:15 | |
-# Gonna buy me a mockingbird -Mockingbird | 0:15:15 | 0:15:20 | |
# If that mockingbird don't sing | 0:15:20 | 0:15:23 | |
# If that mockingbird don't sing | 0:15:23 | 0:15:24 | |
# Gonna buy me a diamond ring... # | 0:15:24 | 0:15:26 | |
She was a great pop singer, a great soul singer, | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
a great ballad singer, | 0:15:31 | 0:15:33 | |
a great folk singer, a great jazz singer. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:35 | |
She was so good at so many different things. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:39 | |
I trusted what she sang. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:43 | |
It didn't make any difference if, once in a while, the note was a bit sharp or a bit flat. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:50 | |
They were jewels. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:53 | |
# The look of love | 0:15:53 | 0:15:57 | |
# Is in your eyes | 0:15:57 | 0:16:03 | |
# A look your heart can't disguise | 0:16:04 | 0:16:13 | |
# The look... # | 0:16:13 | 0:16:16 | |
I love the way Dusty sang The Look Of Love. It was smoky. It was sexy. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:21 | |
It was restrained. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:22 | |
It was held in check but underneath it was smouldering. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:27 | |
It was just on fire. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:30 | |
Just so much romance and passion and coolness to her, you know. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:35 | |
# ..well, it takes my breath away | 0:16:35 | 0:16:40 | |
# I can hardly wait to hold you | 0:16:40 | 0:16:44 | |
# Feel my arms around you | 0:16:44 | 0:16:48 | |
# How long I have waited | 0:16:48 | 0:16:51 | |
# Waited just to love you | 0:16:51 | 0:16:53 | |
# Now that I have found you | 0:16:53 | 0:16:58 | |
# Don't ever go... # | 0:16:58 | 0:17:01 | |
When she sang one of those breathy songs, it was like a reed instrument. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:08 | |
And it was such a fragile sound. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:10 | |
But then she was capable of soaring above a great R'n'B song and being so powerful, | 0:17:10 | 0:17:17 | |
you almost wouldn't believe it was the same woman. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:23 | |
# Gonna build a mountain | 0:17:23 | 0:17:24 | |
# Gonna build a mountain | 0:17:24 | 0:17:25 | |
# Least I know I will | 0:17:25 | 0:17:27 | |
# I hope I will | 0:17:27 | 0:17:28 | |
# Gonna build a mountain | 0:17:28 | 0:17:29 | |
# Gonna build a mountain | 0:17:29 | 0:17:31 | |
# Gonna build it so high | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
# I don't know how I'm gonna build it | 0:17:34 | 0:17:36 | |
# All I know I'm gonna try | 0:17:36 | 0:17:39 | |
# Gonna build a mountain | 0:17:39 | 0:17:41 | |
# Gonna build a mountain... # | 0:17:41 | 0:17:42 | |
Dubbed the queen of blue-eyed soul, | 0:17:42 | 0:17:44 | |
Dusty was often assumed to be black | 0:17:44 | 0:17:47 | |
by those who had heard but not seen her. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:49 | |
She sometimes admitted to feeling like an impostor. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:52 | |
But, with a few exceptions, black musicians respected her. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:56 | |
She was a tireless promoter of black music, | 0:17:56 | 0:18:00 | |
whether hosting Ready Steady Go, or covering soul on her own show. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:04 | |
-# Higher and higher -# Yeah, higher and higher | 0:18:04 | 0:18:07 | |
-# Higher and higher -# Oh, higher and higher | 0:18:07 | 0:18:10 | |
-# Higher and higher -# Just build a mountain | 0:18:10 | 0:18:13 | |
-# Higher and higher -# Yeah | 0:18:13 | 0:18:15 | |
-# Higher and higher -# Gonna build it | 0:18:15 | 0:18:18 | |
-# Higher and higher -# Yeah... # | 0:18:18 | 0:18:19 | |
Well, I think she was... | 0:18:19 | 0:18:23 | |
If you scraped off the Irish | 0:18:23 | 0:18:25 | |
Mary Isobel Catherine Bernadette O'Brien, | 0:18:25 | 0:18:29 | |
she was black underneath. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:31 | |
# Get ready cos here I come | 0:18:34 | 0:18:37 | |
# If you wanna play hide and seek with love, let me remind you | 0:18:37 | 0:18:41 | |
# You're all right | 0:18:41 | 0:18:42 | |
# All the lovin' you're gonna miss in the time it takes to find you... # | 0:18:42 | 0:18:48 | |
Before Dusty, British female singers were still in the 50s. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:52 | |
Dusty changed it virtually overnight. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:55 | |
Suddenly she made records sounding like they were made in America. | 0:18:55 | 0:19:01 | |
She was singing like an American. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:03 | |
But it didn't sound like an impression. It was the real thing. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:07 | |
# Get ready, here I come | 0:19:07 | 0:19:09 | |
# Get ready cos here I come... # | 0:19:09 | 0:19:12 | |
Britain suddenly had a soul singer. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:15 | |
People forget that when you say, "soul singer," | 0:19:15 | 0:19:19 | |
you don't mean the person is black, you just mean they sing from there. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:24 | |
Soul singers don't have a colour. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:27 | |
Everybody knows that Dusty was mesmerised by black singers. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:32 | |
She just loved the Martha Reeves and Aretha Franklins and Dionne Warwicks | 0:19:32 | 0:19:37 | |
and there is a tremendously soulful spiritual feeling | 0:19:37 | 0:19:44 | |
even though she wasn't raised in a Baptist church shaking a tambourine. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:49 | |
# Calling out around the world | 0:19:49 | 0:19:52 | |
# Are you ready for a brand new beat? | 0:19:52 | 0:19:55 | |
# Yeah | 0:19:55 | 0:19:56 | |
# Summer's here and the time is right for dancing in the street | 0:19:56 | 0:20:01 | |
# They're dancing in Chicago | 0:20:01 | 0:20:04 | |
# Down in New Orleans | 0:20:06 | 0:20:08 | |
# In New York City | 0:20:08 | 0:20:11 | |
# All is you need is music | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
# Sweet music | 0:20:14 | 0:20:15 | |
# There'll be music everywhere | 0:20:15 | 0:20:18 | |
# They'll be swinging and swaying and records playing | 0:20:18 | 0:20:23 | |
# And dancing in the street... # | 0:20:23 | 0:20:26 | |
There were other ladies who embraced our music and did cover versions - | 0:20:26 | 0:20:30 | |
Cilla Black, Petula Clark and Lulu - that I can remember doing our songs. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:36 | |
However, Dusty was the one who got into the music and did cover versions and glorified the music. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:43 | |
She was in awe of us and we were in awe of her. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:47 | |
# Like a heatwave | 0:20:47 | 0:20:49 | |
# Burning in my heart | 0:20:49 | 0:20:50 | |
# Heatwave | 0:20:50 | 0:20:51 | |
# I can't keep from crying | 0:20:51 | 0:20:53 | |
# Heatwave | 0:20:53 | 0:20:54 | |
# It's tearing me apart... # | 0:20:54 | 0:20:56 | |
I come from a white bread English family | 0:20:59 | 0:21:02 | |
who were brought up on Gilbert and Sullivan and South Pacific | 0:21:02 | 0:21:07 | |
and I'd never heard a black singer and Dusty was playing me these black soul records and I loved them. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:14 | |
So over the course of Ready Steady, I could book who I wanted | 0:21:14 | 0:21:18 | |
so I'd book Otis Reading, Ike and Tina Turner, James Brown and Motown. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:23 | |
We would play their records and none of them had been to England and they put together a Motown review. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:30 | |
We had a special and Dusty hosted it. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:33 | |
# Wishin' and hopin' and thinkin' and prayin'... # | 0:21:33 | 0:21:37 | |
MARTHA REEVES: She welcomed Smokey, and the Supremes weren't known then. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:43 | |
The Temptations with My Girl - they were the stars of the show. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:48 | |
Stevie Wonder did Fingertips and we did a great show. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:52 | |
The thrill of it all was singing the duet with Dusty. | 0:21:52 | 0:21:55 | |
Wishin' and Hopin'. I think our voices blended so well. | 0:21:55 | 0:21:59 | |
That was really a thrill. And we were friends since then. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:04 | |
Dusty was cast as a hero of the anti-apartheid movement | 0:22:20 | 0:22:25 | |
when her 1964 tour to South Africa provoked a political storm. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:29 | |
Her contract stated she would play only to mixed audiences. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:34 | |
Confronted with a sea of all-white faces at a concert, Dusty rebelled. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:37 | |
She was forced to abandon the tour and return home. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:41 | |
Why did you have the anti-apartheid clause written into your contract? | 0:22:46 | 0:22:49 | |
Do you feel strongly politically about this? | 0:22:49 | 0:22:51 | |
No, I don't know the first thing about politics. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:55 | |
All I know is that if... I think anybody, | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
if they want to buy a ticket, should be allowed to do so. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:02 | |
This was the agreement I went under. | 0:23:02 | 0:23:04 | |
Why was your contract different to previous ones? | 0:23:04 | 0:23:08 | |
I may be wrong about this, | 0:23:08 | 0:23:10 | |
but I think most British artists | 0:23:10 | 0:23:13 | |
that have been there before | 0:23:13 | 0:23:15 | |
have played one or two | 0:23:15 | 0:23:17 | |
segregated concerts | 0:23:17 | 0:23:18 | |
and I didn't want to do it. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:20 | |
# Can I get a witness? | 0:23:20 | 0:23:23 | |
# I want a witness | 0:23:23 | 0:23:26 | |
# Witness, witness | 0:23:26 | 0:23:28 | |
# Witness, witness | 0:23:28 | 0:23:32 | |
# Everybody knows | 0:23:32 | 0:23:35 | |
# Especially you, boy... # | 0:23:35 | 0:23:38 | |
Dusty was not to become known for her politics | 0:23:38 | 0:23:41 | |
but the South African incident | 0:23:41 | 0:23:43 | |
underlined her emerging reputation as a hell raiser. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:47 | |
Her hot temper and sense of humour meant trouble followed her around. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:52 | |
Dusty's outsider status was fuelled by rumours about her sexuality | 0:23:55 | 0:23:59 | |
which were countered with carefully managed publicity | 0:23:59 | 0:24:04 | |
that presented her both as straight and forever on the verge of romance. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:07 | |
The flip side was a punishing schedule of touring and recording. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:17 | |
From the early days, she suffered from nervous exhaustion. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
Her workload was increased by her hands-on approach. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:23 | |
I would see Dusty actually take charge | 0:24:32 | 0:24:35 | |
and people weren't always happy she was adamant about what she wanted. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:40 | |
I've kind of got a bit more like that now. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:44 | |
But I admired that and I loved that... I saw it as feistiness. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:49 | |
It was hard, no doubt about it, because she's extremely musical | 0:25:01 | 0:25:06 | |
and knew sounds and knew what she wanted on her records and was influenced by America. | 0:25:06 | 0:25:14 | |
So she felt strongly that she wanted certain sounds that English musicians perhaps hadn't played, | 0:25:14 | 0:25:21 | |
arrangers hadn't thought about and she was constantly playing records saying, "This is what we want." | 0:25:21 | 0:25:29 | |
# I close my eyes | 0:25:29 | 0:25:32 | |
# And count to ten | 0:25:32 | 0:25:34 | |
# And when I open them you're still here... # | 0:25:34 | 0:25:39 | |
She would like the bass player to use his fingers, | 0:25:39 | 0:25:42 | |
because that's what she'd seen in America. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:46 | |
Things that don't mean anything to most people were important to her. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:51 | |
But she brought them over to the UK. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:54 | |
A lot of musicians didn't like that. But she knew what she wanted. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:59 | |
# You don't own me | 0:26:01 | 0:26:04 | |
# I'm not just one of your many toys | 0:26:04 | 0:26:08 | |
# You don't own me... # | 0:26:08 | 0:26:11 | |
People never give women credit for knowing that they can get it. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:16 | |
And Dusty did and in fairness Johnny France, the producer, was excellent. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:21 | |
He was older and he was more than happy to sit back, put his feet up and let her get on with it. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:29 | |
# Don't tell me what to do | 0:26:29 | 0:26:32 | |
# And don't tell me what to say... # | 0:26:32 | 0:26:36 | |
When you think about it, in the early 60s and mid-60s, | 0:26:38 | 0:26:42 | |
it was very male dominated. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:45 | |
So for this so-called "star" to come along, | 0:26:45 | 0:26:49 | |
female, telling us what to do, | 0:26:49 | 0:26:51 | |
it wasn't really accepted. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:54 | |
But that's why she got the reputation and she used to say, | 0:26:54 | 0:26:58 | |
When a man stands his ground, it's, "Yeah, he stood his ground," | 0:26:58 | 0:27:02 | |
but when a woman stands her ground, she's a B-I-T-C-H. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:05 | |
My first consciousness of Dusty Springfield was driving to work | 0:27:18 | 0:27:23 | |
one day in 1965 from Long Island | 0:27:23 | 0:27:26 | |
into our Atlantic Records office in Manhattan. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:31 | |
And I had the radio on, of course, and here comes this beautiful voice, | 0:27:31 | 0:27:36 | |
and I hadn't heard it before. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:40 | |
And it was mesmerising. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:42 | |
The song I heard on the radio that day was Some Of Your Lovin'. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:48 | |
Her voice really struck me and I knew this was somebody very special. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:53 | |
# I know a man likes to feel that he's been around | 0:27:55 | 0:28:01 | |
# Before he decides to settle down | 0:28:01 | 0:28:08 | |
# I've no doubt, some day, you're gonna feel that way too | 0:28:08 | 0:28:14 | |
# But, baby, just remember, until you do | 0:28:14 | 0:28:21 | |
# You gotta give me some, give me some of your lovin' | 0:28:21 | 0:28:27 | |
# You gotta give me some of your lovin' | 0:28:27 | 0:28:33 | |
# Now I'm not a greedy girl | 0:28:33 | 0:28:36 | |
# I don't need the world | 0:28:36 | 0:28:40 | |
# Give me some of your lovin' | 0:28:40 | 0:28:41 | |
-# Oh, some of your lovin' -# Some | 0:28:41 | 0:28:44 | |
# Oh-oh-oh-oh... # | 0:28:44 | 0:28:47 | |
Attracted by Jerry Wexler's work | 0:28:47 | 0:28:49 | |
with artists like Ray Charles and Aretha Franklin, | 0:28:49 | 0:28:53 | |
Dusty teamed up with the legendary producer to make her next album, | 0:28:53 | 0:28:57 | |
the classic Dusty In Memphis. | 0:28:57 | 0:29:00 | |
But it was to be a rocky road. | 0:29:00 | 0:29:02 | |
So we scheduled for American Studios in Memphis. The band was brilliant. | 0:29:09 | 0:29:14 | |
But, to my dismay, Dusty absolutely would not sing a note. | 0:29:14 | 0:29:18 | |
I don't know how many days we spent in Memphis. Probably about two weeks. | 0:29:18 | 0:29:23 | |
She just wouldn't sing. | 0:29:23 | 0:29:24 | |
Jerry's said I'm the most insecure singer he's ever come across, | 0:29:34 | 0:29:37 | |
and at that time, he was quite right. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:39 | |
What he didn't realise was how intimidated I was. | 0:29:39 | 0:29:43 | |
They were telling stories and talking about Aretha | 0:29:43 | 0:29:47 | |
and I'm going, "Why are they recording me?" | 0:29:47 | 0:29:50 | |
And that showed in the time it took to get performances out of me. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:55 | |
We ended up in New York in a hired studio on 57th Street | 0:30:03 | 0:30:09 | |
and that's where we did the vocals. | 0:30:09 | 0:30:12 | |
And there were just Arif, Tom Dowd and myself in there to work with her. | 0:30:12 | 0:30:20 | |
And er... There was one... | 0:30:20 | 0:30:25 | |
During one song, I had to duck a flying ashtray! | 0:30:25 | 0:30:29 | |
I haven't told that before. I don't think I put it down! | 0:30:29 | 0:30:32 | |
Dusty had the stigmata of perfectibility. | 0:30:38 | 0:30:43 | |
So when she did perform, | 0:30:43 | 0:30:46 | |
she was afraid to let it go because her standards were so high | 0:30:46 | 0:30:51 | |
and it might not come out right. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:54 | |
# Just a little loving | 0:30:55 | 0:30:58 | |
# Early in the morning... # | 0:30:58 | 0:31:02 | |
DUSTY: There was an element in me | 0:31:02 | 0:31:04 | |
that always...often thought I was a sham anyway. | 0:31:04 | 0:31:09 | |
It took a lot to break that down, | 0:31:09 | 0:31:11 | |
that critic in me. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:14 | |
And they did it. They got it out of me somehow. | 0:31:14 | 0:31:18 | |
# I don't wanna hear it anymore | 0:31:18 | 0:31:20 | |
# I don't wanna hear it... # | 0:31:20 | 0:31:23 | |
She contravened all the received and perceived notions of how to do a vocal. | 0:31:23 | 0:31:29 | |
Because the band has finished and she has earphones on | 0:31:29 | 0:31:35 | |
and Dusty kept calling for more track, more track | 0:31:35 | 0:31:39 | |
and finally it reached the point, I couldn't believe it, | 0:31:39 | 0:31:43 | |
she's doing a vocal and says, "More track, I can still hear myself." | 0:31:43 | 0:31:47 | |
Imagine. She wanted so much track | 0:31:47 | 0:31:52 | |
that she couldn't hear the vocal that she was projecting at the time. | 0:31:52 | 0:31:57 | |
I can't imagine how she did it, | 0:31:57 | 0:31:59 | |
how she stayed in tune, stayed in time, | 0:31:59 | 0:32:03 | |
and sang with Dusty's personality and created these marvellous vocals. | 0:32:03 | 0:32:09 | |
# Billy Ray was a preacher's son | 0:32:11 | 0:32:13 | |
# And when his daddy would visit, he'd come along | 0:32:13 | 0:32:17 | |
# When they'd gather round and started talking | 0:32:17 | 0:32:19 | |
# That's when Billy would take me walking | 0:32:19 | 0:32:22 | |
# A-through the back yard we'd go walking | 0:32:22 | 0:32:25 | |
# Then he looked into my eyes | 0:32:25 | 0:32:28 | |
# Lord knows to my surprise | 0:32:28 | 0:32:30 | |
# The only one who could ever reach me | 0:32:30 | 0:32:33 | |
# Was the son of a preacher man | 0:32:33 | 0:32:35 | |
# The only boy who could ever teach me | 0:32:35 | 0:32:38 | |
# Was the son of a preacher man | 0:32:38 | 0:32:40 | |
# Yes, he was, he was | 0:32:40 | 0:32:43 | |
# Oh, yes, he was... # | 0:32:43 | 0:32:46 | |
If you'd left it to her, | 0:32:48 | 0:32:50 | |
I don't think half her material would have been released. | 0:32:50 | 0:32:53 | |
She was always striving to be better and saying, | 0:32:53 | 0:32:58 | |
"I'd like to have sung that like Aretha sung it." | 0:32:58 | 0:33:02 | |
Her own stuff was never good enough. | 0:33:02 | 0:33:04 | |
She always came away going, "I could have done that better." | 0:33:04 | 0:33:07 | |
# You've been crying, your face is a mess | 0:33:07 | 0:33:13 | |
# Come here, baby, you can dry the tears on my dress | 0:33:13 | 0:33:20 | |
# She's hurt you again, I can tell | 0:33:20 | 0:33:27 | |
# Oh, I know that look so well | 0:33:27 | 0:33:32 | |
# Don't be shy... # | 0:33:32 | 0:33:34 | |
In 1970, Dusty gave an interview | 0:33:34 | 0:33:36 | |
to Ray Connolly of the London Evening Standard | 0:33:36 | 0:33:39 | |
in which she admitted her bisexuality for the first time. | 0:33:39 | 0:33:42 | |
Though many have claimed she was simply a lesbian, | 0:33:42 | 0:33:46 | |
Dusty was adamant she would not be confined | 0:33:46 | 0:33:48 | |
by other peoples' categories. | 0:33:48 | 0:33:50 | |
I always felt that the whole gay scene was very open. | 0:34:16 | 0:34:19 | |
I mean, there was never any problem with it. | 0:34:19 | 0:34:22 | |
For non-stars, it was absolutely fine. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:25 | |
But for the business, nothing's changed. It's the same today. | 0:34:25 | 0:34:30 | |
People don't announce their sexuality because it's not good for business. | 0:34:30 | 0:34:34 | |
Although she has gone public on two or three occasions, | 0:34:34 | 0:34:40 | |
I sometimes had the impression that she wished she hadn't. | 0:34:40 | 0:34:46 | |
Although I believe she'd have been a happier person, | 0:34:46 | 0:34:50 | |
if she'd been absolutely clear and got the subject out of the way, | 0:34:50 | 0:34:55 | |
she obviously couldn't do it, for whatever reason. | 0:34:55 | 0:34:59 | |
I think that was a pity. | 0:34:59 | 0:35:02 | |
If she did find out she was bisexual, | 0:35:02 | 0:35:05 | |
I think she would have thought, "Oh, that's against my religion". | 0:35:05 | 0:35:11 | |
Maybe that's why she became a lapsed Catholic. | 0:35:11 | 0:35:15 | |
I think it made her more introvert about it. | 0:35:15 | 0:35:19 | |
She ALWAYS felt guilty. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:25 | |
I don't know if she'd have been as brave as Ellen DeGeneres. | 0:35:26 | 0:35:31 | |
But she was as outrageous, | 0:35:33 | 0:35:36 | |
or would have liked to have been, | 0:35:36 | 0:35:39 | |
as Madonna, on occasion, has been. | 0:35:39 | 0:35:43 | |
The outrageousness of certain people really appealed to her. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:50 | |
Dusty's love of the outrageous, | 0:36:06 | 0:36:08 | |
and a public persona that at once suggested AND hid her sexuality, | 0:36:08 | 0:36:13 | |
ensured her status as a gay icon. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:16 | |
Her camp wit was to land her in trouble | 0:36:16 | 0:36:18 | |
when she gave a concert in front of Princess Margaret | 0:36:18 | 0:36:20 | |
at the Royal Albert Hall in 1979. | 0:36:20 | 0:36:23 | |
By then, Simon Bell had become her backing singer. | 0:36:23 | 0:36:26 | |
Dusty noticed that the audience was largely gay, especially at the front. | 0:36:29 | 0:36:35 | |
She made a remark that it was nice to see that royalty wasn't confined to the box. | 0:36:35 | 0:36:42 | |
Apparently, Princess Margaret didn't like that. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:46 | |
I find it hard to believe that Princess Margaret hasn't had a sense of humour. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:52 | |
Apparently, she was not amused. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:55 | |
A letter came from St James' Palace | 0:36:55 | 0:36:58 | |
instructing Dusty that she had to sign an apology | 0:36:58 | 0:37:03 | |
for having insulted the Crown. | 0:37:03 | 0:37:06 | |
Dusty signed it. I was very surprised. | 0:37:06 | 0:37:10 | |
That proves she's not quite the hell-raiser that we'd think. | 0:37:10 | 0:37:15 | |
DUSTY: This is for all the people who have been legends in their time, | 0:37:15 | 0:37:20 | |
I'm sure you know... CHEERING | 0:37:20 | 0:37:24 | |
Sometimes the ladies I'm speaking of give too much of themselves, | 0:37:28 | 0:37:34 | |
sometimes not enough. | 0:37:34 | 0:37:37 | |
This song is really for all those people, all those women, | 0:37:37 | 0:37:43 | |
no matter where they are now. | 0:37:43 | 0:37:45 | |
She was a great dramatic singer. | 0:37:45 | 0:37:48 | |
She fitted into the mould drawn by Judy Garland. | 0:37:48 | 0:37:54 | |
And...later when she wasn't at her peak, vocally, | 0:37:54 | 0:38:01 | |
there was always that element of, "Was she going to make it?" | 0:38:01 | 0:38:05 | |
Again, drawing on the same source as Judy. | 0:38:05 | 0:38:09 | |
It was easy to see why she was going to be a gay icon. | 0:38:09 | 0:38:15 | |
She made wonderful, heart-rending songs | 0:38:15 | 0:38:19 | |
that a certain kind of gay man, and woman, | 0:38:19 | 0:38:24 | |
loved to sit and listen to, you know. | 0:38:24 | 0:38:26 | |
# Quiet please, there's a lady on stage | 0:38:26 | 0:38:34 | |
# She may not be the latest rage | 0:38:34 | 0:38:40 | |
# But she's singing and she means it | 0:38:40 | 0:38:46 | |
# That deserves a little silence | 0:38:48 | 0:38:53 | |
# Quiet please, there's a woman up there | 0:38:54 | 0:38:59 | |
# She's been honest through her songs... # | 0:38:59 | 0:39:03 | |
She was a diva, and the fact that she wasn't easy to deal with | 0:39:03 | 0:39:07 | |
and the vulnerability, that appeals to gay people. | 0:39:07 | 0:39:10 | |
They see themselves, and they're a bit tortured. She was a bit tortured. | 0:39:10 | 0:39:17 | |
# ...Put your hands together and help her along | 0:39:17 | 0:39:22 | |
# All that's left of the singers | 0:39:22 | 0:39:26 | |
# All that's left of the song | 0:39:26 | 0:39:29 | |
# Rise to the occasion... # | 0:39:29 | 0:39:34 | |
Two things made Dusty a gay icon. | 0:39:34 | 0:39:37 | |
Firstly, the music. | 0:39:37 | 0:39:41 | |
Then, the look. | 0:39:41 | 0:39:43 | |
Dusty made a remark in the 1980s, | 0:39:43 | 0:39:48 | |
"I must be getting popular again, the drag queens are doing me!" | 0:39:48 | 0:39:52 | |
She was just camp. That's what attracted them. | 0:39:52 | 0:39:56 | |
Every drag queen wanted to look like her. | 0:39:56 | 0:40:00 | |
I can't tell you how many parties I've been to where some drag queen turned up like her! | 0:40:00 | 0:40:06 | |
She was a camp icon. | 0:40:06 | 0:40:10 | |
Also, the hand movements. The whole package. | 0:40:10 | 0:40:14 | |
At her funeral, Lulu told this story that Dusty developed it | 0:40:14 | 0:40:18 | |
because she wrote the lyrics on her arm. | 0:40:18 | 0:40:20 | |
Ah! I loved it when she'd go... | 0:40:20 | 0:40:25 | |
I can't remember which song. Say it was: | 0:40:25 | 0:40:28 | |
# Where did our love lie? | 0:40:28 | 0:40:31 | |
# In the middle of nowhere. # | 0:40:32 | 0:40:34 | |
Because she'd forget the next... That wasn't a good example. | 0:40:34 | 0:40:37 | |
But she'd have the words up her arms, on her hands. | 0:40:37 | 0:40:41 | |
There was ink everywhere. | 0:40:41 | 0:40:45 | |
Because she'd forget. She'd forget lines, which we all do. | 0:40:45 | 0:40:50 | |
But hers were so obvious, but she turned it into... | 0:40:50 | 0:40:53 | |
# Where did our love lie? # And she'd do that. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:56 | |
Cos she was partly blind, she'd have to go right up to her nose! | 0:40:56 | 0:41:00 | |
-# So if I give up -# Yes, I'm packin' up | 0:41:03 | 0:41:06 | |
-# Movin' out of the town -# Movin' out of the town | 0:41:06 | 0:41:08 | |
-# Packin' up -# Yes, I'm packin up | 0:41:08 | 0:41:12 | |
# I'm not chained and I'm no longer bound | 0:41:12 | 0:41:15 | |
# So I'm packin' up... # | 0:41:15 | 0:41:17 | |
Dusty had left England at the start of the 70s. | 0:41:17 | 0:41:20 | |
Her sales were dropping, | 0:41:20 | 0:41:22 | |
she had a horror of ending up on the nostalgia circuit, | 0:41:22 | 0:41:25 | |
and she wanted to escape the prying into her sexuality. | 0:41:25 | 0:41:28 | |
With her enduring love | 0:41:28 | 0:41:29 | |
of both the American pop scene and Hollywood movies, | 0:41:29 | 0:41:32 | |
Dusty felt the time had come to pursue her American dreams. | 0:41:32 | 0:41:35 | |
She got an American manager | 0:41:39 | 0:41:41 | |
who said he could do this, he could do that. | 0:41:41 | 0:41:44 | |
But when she got there, they had no idea what type of artist she was. | 0:41:44 | 0:41:50 | |
They thought she was a Peggy Lee who sat down at the piano, | 0:41:50 | 0:41:56 | |
had a pianist and sang in a nightclub. | 0:41:56 | 0:42:00 | |
That wasn't Dusty at all. That wasn't her scene. | 0:42:00 | 0:42:05 | |
# She's a sweetheart, except when she's moody | 0:42:05 | 0:42:08 | |
# It's hard to get through to her then...# | 0:42:08 | 0:42:12 | |
She'd been so big in England | 0:42:12 | 0:42:14 | |
and it had been relatively easy, I think she thought | 0:42:14 | 0:42:18 | |
that would happen in America. | 0:42:18 | 0:42:20 | |
She was inherently lazy, | 0:42:20 | 0:42:22 | |
and when it didn't happen immediately, | 0:42:22 | 0:42:25 | |
she just went, "Shit! This isn't so easy. "I'll find another way." | 0:42:25 | 0:42:31 | |
You think you have all the time in the world and you really don't. | 0:42:31 | 0:42:36 | |
And suddenly it's too late for that. | 0:42:36 | 0:42:39 | |
# ...Cos she might take a drink with the housework | 0:42:41 | 0:42:44 | |
# Or when Michael stayed late at the shop | 0:42:44 | 0:42:49 | |
# A martini or two before dinner | 0:42:49 | 0:42:53 | |
# But she always knows when to stop. # | 0:42:53 | 0:42:56 | |
What went wrong was a combination. | 0:42:56 | 0:42:59 | |
Yes, it was bad management. It was also the drugs and the drink. | 0:42:59 | 0:43:05 | |
She was impossible. Nobody could have helped her, made her do things. | 0:43:05 | 0:43:11 | |
Her decisions were wonky. They just weren't right. | 0:43:11 | 0:43:16 | |
I'm hearing all these stories coming back from different sources. | 0:43:16 | 0:43:19 | |
And I must own up, I did sometimes feel guilty and think, | 0:43:19 | 0:43:23 | |
"I wish I had gone, because I might have made a difference." | 0:43:23 | 0:43:27 | |
On the other hand, I might not have and I'd have had to watch it. | 0:43:27 | 0:43:32 | |
I'd rather have not seen that period of her life. | 0:43:32 | 0:43:35 | |
# ...She was doing the dishes | 0:43:35 | 0:43:38 | |
# When a glass fell and broke on the tiles | 0:43:38 | 0:43:43 | |
# She cut her wrist, quite by mistake | 0:43:45 | 0:43:49 | |
# It was real touch and go for a while. # | 0:43:49 | 0:43:55 | |
A part of me was worried when you'd pass newspaper stands and see, | 0:43:55 | 0:44:00 | |
"Pop Star..." and something tragic had happened to them. | 0:44:00 | 0:44:04 | |
I always expected to see something like that. | 0:44:04 | 0:44:08 | |
She was a self-destructive type person as well. So... | 0:44:08 | 0:44:14 | |
In the hills above Los Angeles, | 0:44:27 | 0:44:30 | |
the Wildlife Waystation takes in abused and neglected animals. | 0:44:30 | 0:44:34 | |
It became a place of sanctuary for Dusty in her "Lost Years". | 0:44:34 | 0:44:38 | |
After her albums of the early 70s met with indifference, | 0:44:38 | 0:44:42 | |
she mostly dropped out of the music scene for several years | 0:44:42 | 0:44:45 | |
and turned her attention to the women's tennis circuit and Beverly Hills parties. | 0:44:45 | 0:44:49 | |
Increasingly depressed, | 0:44:49 | 0:44:50 | |
she attempted to replace the highs of stardom | 0:44:50 | 0:44:53 | |
with alcohol, Mandrax and cocaine. | 0:44:53 | 0:44:56 | |
Eventually, she attempted suicide several times. | 0:44:56 | 0:44:59 | |
Dusty met Helene Sellery in 1976, at an alcoholics' support group. | 0:45:08 | 0:45:14 | |
Helene was on hand when Dusty started recording again in the late 70s, | 0:45:14 | 0:45:17 | |
And together, they were frequent visitors to the Wildlife Waystation. | 0:45:17 | 0:45:21 | |
If I had to say where her heart was in California, it would be here. | 0:45:24 | 0:45:30 | |
This was peace and quiet for her. | 0:45:30 | 0:45:32 | |
It was one-to-one rapport with the animals. | 0:45:32 | 0:45:34 | |
Yes, she had her cats and adored them, | 0:45:34 | 0:45:36 | |
but this was special, she came to get renewed here. | 0:45:36 | 0:45:42 | |
She would sit in front of the cat cages for hours, in silence. | 0:45:42 | 0:45:48 | |
She would try to mimic their sounds. | 0:45:48 | 0:45:51 | |
When I first knew her, she'd said, | 0:45:51 | 0:45:55 | |
"It gets lonely in the studios and there's a lot of cocaine around. | 0:45:55 | 0:45:59 | |
"I'd like you to come to rehearsals." I did for two-and-a-half albums. | 0:45:59 | 0:46:04 | |
She'd rehearse from 6pm till 4am. | 0:46:04 | 0:46:07 | |
Which is, in part, why this issue is difficult. | 0:46:07 | 0:46:12 | |
She was used to night performances, that's when her voice was ready. | 0:46:12 | 0:46:17 | |
I'd sit with earplugs reading Scientific American! | 0:46:17 | 0:46:20 | |
After the years of virtual silence, | 0:46:33 | 0:46:35 | |
Dusty's latest albums proved that although her voice was still alive, | 0:46:35 | 0:46:39 | |
her records were no longer selling. | 0:46:39 | 0:46:42 | |
Disillusioned, with America, | 0:46:42 | 0:46:44 | |
she stopped speaking of her old self, Mary O'Brien, | 0:46:44 | 0:46:47 | |
as someone to erase, but rather as the answer to her problems. | 0:46:47 | 0:46:50 | |
DUSTY: I've been singing all my life since I left convent school. | 0:46:58 | 0:47:02 | |
I hadn't a chance to grow up, I just became this monster | 0:47:02 | 0:47:05 | |
that I invented for myself to become. | 0:47:05 | 0:47:08 | |
# ...I was so frustrated, wanted to tear my hair out | 0:47:11 | 0:47:19 | |
# Can't seem to get a grip on your love. # | 0:47:19 | 0:47:24 | |
You get to Hollywood, and find yourself playing mental games | 0:47:24 | 0:47:28 | |
by looking down your hill and saying, "Well, it looks like Spain," | 0:47:28 | 0:47:32 | |
because Spain is closer to England. | 0:47:32 | 0:47:34 | |
Did you ever really feel you belonged there? | 0:47:34 | 0:47:38 | |
-Did you ever emotionally accept your life in Hollywood? -Never. | 0:47:38 | 0:47:41 | |
I never came to terms with it. | 0:47:41 | 0:47:44 | |
I loved the last house I lived in | 0:47:44 | 0:47:46 | |
because it was five minutes above Sunset Strip, | 0:47:46 | 0:47:49 | |
but I had coyotes and racoons and it was utterly quiet. | 0:47:49 | 0:47:53 | |
I could look over the whole city. That's an unbeatable feeling. | 0:47:53 | 0:47:57 | |
But outside of that, and that breeds extreme laziness...in me. | 0:47:57 | 0:48:03 | |
I handle idleness badly. I had to kick myself in the butt and get out. | 0:48:03 | 0:48:11 | |
My contribution was to get her out of LA, into Amsterdam. | 0:48:11 | 0:48:15 | |
LA is a desert land. It's disastrous. | 0:48:15 | 0:48:19 | |
The sun shines every bloody day. | 0:48:19 | 0:48:22 | |
There's nothing to do, unless you're rich and famous. She wasn't either. | 0:48:22 | 0:48:28 | |
# You always wanted a lover | 0:48:29 | 0:48:31 | |
# I only wanted a job... # | 0:48:33 | 0:48:35 | |
I didn't get involved until The Pet Shop Boys. | 0:48:36 | 0:48:40 | |
The reason I got involved was because | 0:48:40 | 0:48:43 | |
I just felt it was criminal that nothing was happening. | 0:48:43 | 0:48:46 | |
She was trying to get herself together, in terms of the drinking. | 0:48:46 | 0:48:51 | |
The record was brilliant, and if I didn't do it, I felt, | 0:48:51 | 0:48:55 | |
"Nobody's gonna do it. It'll be one record and she'll slip back again." | 0:48:55 | 0:48:59 | |
I think, by the 80s, Dusty thought it was all over. | 0:48:59 | 0:49:05 | |
Then we did this record with her, What Have I Done To Deserve This? | 0:49:05 | 0:49:09 | |
It was such a big hit, it's quite remarkable to think now. | 0:49:09 | 0:49:13 | |
It was Number Two in America. Number Two in Britain. | 0:49:13 | 0:49:17 | |
Number one in the US sales chart. | 0:49:17 | 0:49:19 | |
# What have I, what have I... | 0:49:19 | 0:49:21 | |
# Since you went away, I've been hanging around | 0:49:21 | 0:49:26 | |
# I've been wondering why I'm feeling down | 0:49:26 | 0:49:30 | |
# You went away, it should make me feel better | 0:49:30 | 0:49:34 | |
# But I don't know, oh | 0:49:34 | 0:49:37 | |
# How I'm gonna get through | 0:49:37 | 0:49:41 | |
# How I'm gonna get through. # | 0:49:41 | 0:49:44 | |
So suddenly she realised it wasn't all over. That she could be back. | 0:49:44 | 0:49:47 | |
And she really took that very, very seriously. | 0:49:47 | 0:49:51 | |
Later, we said, "Do you want to do this song from the film Scandal?" | 0:49:51 | 0:49:56 | |
It was set in 1963, Dusty was around then, | 0:49:56 | 0:50:01 | |
yet she was around in the late 80s, | 0:50:01 | 0:50:04 | |
so it seemed very resonant to get her to do it. | 0:50:04 | 0:50:07 | |
# It's a scandal It's a scandal, such a scandal. # | 0:50:07 | 0:50:12 | |
She was very creative, and a perfectionist. | 0:50:12 | 0:50:16 | |
So her way of recording was to stand behind the microphone, | 0:50:16 | 0:50:21 | |
with a cigarette and a cup of coffee | 0:50:21 | 0:50:23 | |
and the lyric sheet with lots of pencil marks on it, | 0:50:23 | 0:50:26 | |
and she would record word-by-word, or syllable-by-syllable, | 0:50:26 | 0:50:30 | |
gradually changing it. Very like someone doing a painting. | 0:50:30 | 0:50:34 | |
# Mandy's in the papers, cos she tried to go to Spain | 0:50:34 | 0:50:40 | |
# She'll soon be in the dock, then the papers once again | 0:50:40 | 0:50:45 | |
# Vicki's got her story about the mirror and the cane | 0:50:45 | 0:50:51 | |
# It may be false... # | 0:50:51 | 0:50:53 | |
So in every verse and chorus, the melody would be changed slightly. | 0:50:53 | 0:50:59 | |
Then, the last chorus would go through the ceiling. | 0:50:59 | 0:51:03 | |
# ...they may be false | 0:51:03 | 0:51:05 | |
# They may be true | 0:51:05 | 0:51:08 | |
# But nothing has been proved. # | 0:51:09 | 0:51:15 | |
That's one with The Pet Shop Boys. | 0:51:19 | 0:51:21 | |
It's quite important because it was them that brought her back, | 0:51:21 | 0:51:24 | |
bless their little hearts. | 0:51:24 | 0:51:26 | |
She'd be enormously grateful. | 0:51:28 | 0:51:30 | |
I didn't realise I had quite so many. | 0:51:30 | 0:51:34 | |
My favourite album. I loved that. | 0:51:35 | 0:51:39 | |
She did have beautiful eyes, didn't she? | 0:51:41 | 0:51:45 | |
# Tell me where is a woman to go? | 0:51:48 | 0:51:53 | |
# When she's feelin' low | 0:51:55 | 0:51:57 | |
# And all she wants to do is feel a little better... # | 0:51:57 | 0:52:04 | |
In 1994, soon after the completion | 0:52:04 | 0:52:07 | |
of the Nashville-recorded album, A Very Fine Love, | 0:52:07 | 0:52:10 | |
Dusty was diagnosed with breast cancer. | 0:52:10 | 0:52:13 | |
She'd only ever allowed her closest friends to see her out of character, without make-up. | 0:52:13 | 0:52:19 | |
She saw no reason now to challenge | 0:52:19 | 0:52:22 | |
the fans' image of Dusty Springfield. | 0:52:22 | 0:52:25 | |
She retreated to the Berkshire countryside, | 0:52:25 | 0:52:27 | |
away from the public gaze. | 0:52:27 | 0:52:28 | |
-# ...All she wants to do is -# Is feel a little better | 0:52:28 | 0:52:35 | |
-# Tell me where -# Where | 0:52:35 | 0:52:38 | |
# Pretty girl | 0:52:38 | 0:52:40 | |
# When she's feelin' low | 0:52:41 | 0:52:44 | |
# And all she wants to do is feel a little better | 0:52:44 | 0:52:51 | |
# Do, da, do, da, do, da, do, da, day | 0:52:52 | 0:52:57 | |
# Ahh! Do, da, do, da, do, da, do, da, day | 0:53:00 | 0:53:04 | |
# Do, da, do, da, do, da, do, dah, day. # | 0:53:07 | 0:53:22 | |
Dusty was a complete survivor. She lived to be nearly 60. | 0:53:25 | 0:53:31 | |
Her life simply wasn't tragic. | 0:53:31 | 0:53:34 | |
When she died, she was on an up. She'd sorted herself out financially. | 0:53:34 | 0:53:39 | |
She got the OBE from the Queen. | 0:53:39 | 0:53:42 | |
She got a beautiful house because she knew she'd be ill | 0:53:42 | 0:53:47 | |
and she wanted lovely views and friends nearby. | 0:53:47 | 0:53:51 | |
She wanted her cats around. | 0:53:51 | 0:53:53 | |
She was thrilled that the illness took away the need to work. | 0:53:55 | 0:54:00 | |
She didn't have to feel guilty about not working. That was gone. | 0:54:00 | 0:54:05 | |
# I think I'm goin' back | 0:54:10 | 0:54:14 | |
# To the things I learned so well | 0:54:14 | 0:54:19 | |
# In my youth | 0:54:19 | 0:54:23 | |
# I think I'm returning to | 0:54:24 | 0:54:29 | |
# Those days when I was young enough | 0:54:29 | 0:54:34 | |
# To know the truth | 0:54:34 | 0:54:39 | |
# Now there are no games | 0:54:39 | 0:54:43 | |
# To only pass the time... # | 0:54:43 | 0:54:47 | |
Dusty's funeral was her last great performance. | 0:54:47 | 0:54:51 | |
She'd planned the horse and carriage | 0:54:51 | 0:54:53 | |
and stopped the traffic, just as she had wanted to, | 0:54:53 | 0:54:56 | |
and received a standing ovation | 0:54:56 | 0:54:58 | |
as her coffin left the church to the strains of Goin' Back. | 0:54:58 | 0:55:01 | |
# ..Growing older is no sin... # | 0:55:01 | 0:55:09 | |
It was an occasion that summed up the contradiction and complexities | 0:55:09 | 0:55:13 | |
of being Dusty. | 0:55:13 | 0:55:16 | |
She was quoted as saying she wanted to die as Mary O'Brien, | 0:55:16 | 0:55:20 | |
yet her funeral had the flourishes of Dusty, the star. | 0:55:20 | 0:55:25 | |
# ...To reach out to a friend | 0:55:25 | 0:55:31 | |
# And now I think I've got a lot... # | 0:55:31 | 0:55:37 | |
The Dusty I saw was different with different people. | 0:55:37 | 0:55:41 | |
She could be charming and she could be an absolute pain in the ass. | 0:55:41 | 0:55:46 | |
# ..Now there's more to do... # | 0:55:46 | 0:55:50 | |
Mary was a nice person. Dusty had to be Dusty. | 0:55:50 | 0:55:54 | |
# ..And every day can be... # | 0:55:54 | 0:55:57 | |
Mary was the real Dusty with Dusty bursting to get out! | 0:55:57 | 0:56:02 | |
# ..And I can play... # | 0:56:05 | 0:56:07 | |
It's easy to decide there were two people - Mary and Dusty - | 0:56:07 | 0:56:12 | |
but they were the one person. | 0:56:12 | 0:56:16 | |
Dusty was most definitely Dusty right to the end. | 0:56:16 | 0:56:19 | |
# ...I'm going back. # | 0:56:19 | 0:56:26 | |
I don't honestly think anybody | 0:56:26 | 0:56:28 | |
can truthfully say, "I know Dusty Springfield." | 0:56:28 | 0:56:33 | |
Or, "I know Mary O'Brien." | 0:56:33 | 0:56:36 | |
She always kept part of herself back from everybody. | 0:56:36 | 0:56:41 | |
I think that was her security. | 0:56:41 | 0:56:44 | |
Cos she knew she had a bit that didn't belong to anyone else. | 0:56:44 | 0:56:48 | |
She always had that hint of mystery. | 0:56:48 | 0:56:51 | |
# You don't have to say you love me | 0:56:51 | 0:56:55 | |
# Just be close at hand | 0:56:55 | 0:56:58 | |
# You don't have to stay for ever | 0:56:58 | 0:57:02 | |
# I will understand | 0:57:02 | 0:57:05 | |
# Believe me, believe me | 0:57:05 | 0:57:12 | |
# You don't have to say you love me | 0:57:12 | 0:57:15 | |
# Just be close at hand | 0:57:15 | 0:57:18 | |
# You don't have to stay for ever | 0:57:18 | 0:57:22 | |
# I will understand | 0:57:22 | 0:57:25 | |
# Believe me Ah! Believe me | 0:57:25 | 0:57:32 | |
# Believe me. # | 0:57:32 | 0:57:39 | |
APPLAUSE AND CHEERING | 0:57:39 | 0:57:43 | |
MUSIC: "See All Her Faces" by Dusty Springfield | 0:57:50 | 0:57:52 |