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People have been trying to get me | 0:00:14 | 0:00:16 | |
to write my biography since I was 24. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:18 | |
It took me a while to get round to the idea | 0:00:18 | 0:00:20 | |
there might be some book to write. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:22 | |
So the only book I can write is the one that nobody else can know | 0:00:23 | 0:00:27 | |
but me - the things that I was actually feeling, | 0:00:27 | 0:00:30 | |
the experiences that aren't on any other public record. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:33 | |
Cos they're things that happened out of the picture. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:35 | |
I don't mean in my professional life, | 0:00:35 | 0:00:37 | |
even before it, in the life of my family before I was born, | 0:00:37 | 0:00:40 | |
or after I was born, when I was a child, | 0:00:40 | 0:00:43 | |
that had something to do with the way I hear music. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:46 | |
Not that I want to make that sound like some sort of magical story, | 0:00:46 | 0:00:50 | |
but everyone's way of listening is different, | 0:00:50 | 0:00:52 | |
and mine's the way it is because of these things, | 0:00:52 | 0:00:55 | |
and that's all I want to raise a glass to, you know. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:58 | |
Declan MacManus, better known as Elvis Costello, is widely regarded | 0:01:00 | 0:01:04 | |
as the most brilliant British songwriter of his generation. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:08 | |
He came of age at a time when rock music had lost its innocence | 0:01:09 | 0:01:12 | |
and become aware of its history. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:14 | |
His sources draw from ragtime to country and '60s soul, | 0:01:17 | 0:01:20 | |
from Schubert to Abba and the Beatles, | 0:01:20 | 0:01:23 | |
from eclectic jazz to the Great American Songbook. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:25 | |
MUSIC: "Pump it Up" by Elvis Costello | 0:01:27 | 0:01:30 | |
# I've been on tenterhooks Ending in dirty looks | 0:01:48 | 0:01:51 | |
# Listenin' to the Muzak Thinking 'bout this 'n' that | 0:01:51 | 0:01:54 | |
# She said that's that I don't wanna chitter-chat | 0:01:54 | 0:01:58 | |
# Turn it down a little bit Or turn it down flat | 0:01:58 | 0:02:02 | |
-# Pump it up! -When you don't really need it | 0:02:02 | 0:02:05 | |
# Pump it up! | 0:02:05 | 0:02:07 | |
# Until you can feel it... # | 0:02:07 | 0:02:10 | |
What was thrilling about him at the time was that punk rock had | 0:02:10 | 0:02:14 | |
a lot of excitement, pace, acceleration, | 0:02:14 | 0:02:17 | |
and the press were waiting for someone who would come along and add | 0:02:17 | 0:02:20 | |
a little depth and three-dimensional quality to the words. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:24 | |
And in came Elvis with his strange kind of geeky, weird look and | 0:02:24 | 0:02:28 | |
his aggression and pace, a few minor chords | 0:02:28 | 0:02:31 | |
and a few extraordinary songs that you could relate to. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:34 | |
And all that was condensed into one great cocktail | 0:02:34 | 0:02:37 | |
which had enormous impact. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:39 | |
# Oliver's army is here to stay | 0:02:39 | 0:02:42 | |
# Oliver's army are on their way | 0:02:42 | 0:02:46 | |
# And I would rather be anywhere else but here today... # | 0:02:46 | 0:02:53 | |
The New Wave geek was the first of a series of personae | 0:02:56 | 0:02:59 | |
that Elvis would explore, | 0:02:59 | 0:03:00 | |
playfully reinventing his image over the next 30 years in a way | 0:03:00 | 0:03:04 | |
that parallels his uniquely wide-ranging musical adventures. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:07 | |
He comes through the Beatles, he comes through the blues, | 0:03:08 | 0:03:11 | |
soul, he comes through '60s music, '70s music, and beyond. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:15 | |
# What would you say? What would you do? | 0:03:15 | 0:03:20 | |
# Children and animals Two by two... # | 0:03:20 | 0:03:24 | |
He likes people not to get too in a comfort zone. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:29 | |
He wants to keep things dangerous, | 0:03:29 | 0:03:32 | |
because that's when the best things happen. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:34 | |
# Everyone dreams of him just as they can | 0:03:34 | 0:03:40 | |
# But he's only the humble delivery man... # | 0:03:40 | 0:03:46 | |
Other musicians hope a little bit of his thing | 0:03:48 | 0:03:51 | |
will rub off on them as well. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:53 | |
Because he's got this wild, slightly feral quality that they all like. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:59 | |
# In a certain light... | 0:03:59 | 0:04:01 | |
# He looked like Elvis | 0:04:01 | 0:04:04 | |
# In a certain way He felt like Jesus... # | 0:04:04 | 0:04:09 | |
He had such an incredibly strong, muscular voice | 0:04:11 | 0:04:14 | |
and could sing anything, I mean, really, and yet it's always Elvis. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:19 | |
# Well, I hope you live long now... # | 0:04:19 | 0:04:22 | |
Elvis is a master of melody, | 0:04:24 | 0:04:26 | |
but what distinguishes him above all is an almost uncanny way with words, | 0:04:26 | 0:04:31 | |
from the creative use of the well-worn cliche | 0:04:31 | 0:04:33 | |
to daring poetic associations, | 0:04:33 | 0:04:35 | |
whether he is writing about the sorrow of love | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
or the burning fire of desire, | 0:04:38 | 0:04:39 | |
the power play of the bedroom or the world of politics. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:42 | |
# I never thought for a moment | 0:04:42 | 0:04:48 | |
# That human life could be so cheap | 0:04:48 | 0:04:55 | |
# But when they finally put you in the ground... # | 0:04:55 | 0:05:06 | |
# ..I'll stand there laughing | 0:05:06 | 0:05:12 | |
# And tramp the dirt down. # | 0:05:12 | 0:05:23 | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:05:29 | 0:05:34 | |
HE SNIFFS | 0:05:52 | 0:05:54 | |
It's a nice smell. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:55 | |
# When that I was and a little tiny boy | 0:05:58 | 0:06:02 | |
# With a hey-ho The wind and the rain | 0:06:02 | 0:06:07 | |
# A foolish thing was but a toy | 0:06:07 | 0:06:12 | |
# For the rain It raineth every day... # | 0:06:12 | 0:06:17 | |
And we lived down here, | 0:06:33 | 0:06:35 | |
just in the little modern estate that was built in the late '50s. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:39 | |
We lived in the top flat there. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:41 | |
There was a back way that we could get down to the river. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:44 | |
My bedroom was at the back. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:47 | |
JAZZ MUSIC PLAYS | 0:06:47 | 0:06:48 | |
What I knew was what I saw through my parents' experience. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:54 | |
I knew that my parents' friends were mostly jazz musicians, and that | 0:06:54 | 0:06:58 | |
my dad had played jazz, and most of the music in the house was jazz, | 0:06:58 | 0:07:02 | |
Dizzy Gillespie, Miles Davis, Charlie Parker, Stan Kenton, | 0:07:02 | 0:07:07 | |
Nat Cole instrumental records, | 0:07:07 | 0:07:09 | |
or American vocal music, Sinatra, Ella Fitzgerald, Nat Cole, Eckstine. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:16 | |
Later on, Tony Bennett, Peggy Lee... | 0:07:16 | 0:07:19 | |
That's the records that we had on the shelf. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:21 | |
Elvis' father, Ross MacManus, had been one of Liverpool's | 0:07:27 | 0:07:31 | |
daring bebop pioneers, | 0:07:31 | 0:07:33 | |
modelling himself on Miles Davis and Dizzy Gillespie. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:35 | |
Discovering a talent for singing, | 0:07:43 | 0:07:45 | |
he started working as a dance-band vocalist. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:48 | |
He was taken on by the Joe Loss Orchestra - leaders in the field. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:52 | |
There were all these jazz bands, they were all over the radio, | 0:07:52 | 0:07:55 | |
and Joe Loss hired my dad. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:57 | |
I remember him going to work, | 0:07:57 | 0:07:59 | |
yeah, he would just get in the car and drive to work, | 0:07:59 | 0:08:01 | |
so his office on the weekday was the Hammersmith Palais. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:07 | |
BIG BAND MUSIC PLAYS | 0:08:10 | 0:08:12 | |
They were a 16-piece Glenn Miller-style dance band | 0:08:12 | 0:08:17 | |
and they could play all the dances of the day, | 0:08:17 | 0:08:19 | |
they'd have their Latin section, | 0:08:19 | 0:08:20 | |
they would do quicksteps, foxtrots, waltzes, | 0:08:20 | 0:08:24 | |
they'd play two sets a night, and they'd play on a Saturday afternoon, | 0:08:24 | 0:08:27 | |
people would go and practise ballroom dancing there in the afternoon, | 0:08:27 | 0:08:31 | |
it was a very vivid scene to me. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:34 | |
When I was only seven or eight, | 0:08:34 | 0:08:37 | |
I was just put up in the balcony with a bag of crisps and a bottle of pop | 0:08:37 | 0:08:41 | |
and the lady from the cloakroom was given the charge of looking after me. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:44 | |
I wasn't going anywhere, there was nobody in the balcony except me. It was just me. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:49 | |
And then little by little through the '60s, they start to have shows | 0:08:54 | 0:08:57 | |
that featured beat groups and that's how, you know... | 0:08:57 | 0:09:01 | |
And Joe Loss was very shrewd, he was a guy who knew a hit | 0:09:01 | 0:09:04 | |
when he heard it. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:05 | |
-# If I had a bell -If I had a bell | 0:09:05 | 0:09:08 | |
-# I'd ring it in the morning -I'd ring it in the morning | 0:09:08 | 0:09:10 | |
-# I'd ring it in the evening -Ring it in the... # | 0:09:10 | 0:09:12 | |
And in my dad, he was fortunate that he had somebody who was | 0:09:12 | 0:09:15 | |
very versatile and a very good mimic. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:17 | |
# I'd ring out a warning, yeah | 0:09:17 | 0:09:20 | |
# I'd ring about the love between my brothers and my sisters | 0:09:20 | 0:09:24 | |
# All over this land | 0:09:24 | 0:09:26 | |
# Oh-oh-oh-oh... # | 0:09:26 | 0:09:28 | |
He would be in the front room with a stack of records and sheet music | 0:09:28 | 0:09:32 | |
and listening to the records over and over again until he had it memorised. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:36 | |
I think it's early '63 when Please Please Me came out. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:42 | |
I asked him for Please Please Me, I said, | 0:09:42 | 0:09:44 | |
"What are you going to do with that record?" | 0:09:44 | 0:09:46 | |
He didn't keep any of the records, so he must have given them | 0:09:46 | 0:09:49 | |
to friends' kids or something, and then I started asking for them | 0:09:49 | 0:09:53 | |
and I got them every week, like, five, six records at a time. | 0:09:53 | 0:09:55 | |
It was a lot of records for a nine- or ten-year-old to have. | 0:09:55 | 0:10:00 | |
I had 500% more records than pocket money could have bought me | 0:10:00 | 0:10:04 | |
if I spent every penny of my pocket money on a record every week. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:07 | |
Yeah, so that's why I know so many songs! | 0:10:07 | 0:10:10 | |
BELL RINGS | 0:10:11 | 0:10:13 | |
MUSIC: "Turpentine" | 0:10:13 | 0:10:17 | |
# I can't tell if this is real or if I am sleeping... # | 0:10:20 | 0:10:27 | |
I'm just looking for problematic songs on here for sound. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:35 | |
You've got a lot of those sort of tom-tommy songs. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:39 | |
It's the tom-tom... It's the tom-tom ones that are the problem. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:42 | |
If it's too much, it'll get oppressive, | 0:10:42 | 0:10:44 | |
so in a way, the placing of the wheel will help with that | 0:10:44 | 0:10:47 | |
because it's really a symphony hall, that's what I was afraid of. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:51 | |
Watch Your Step, let's put that up, | 0:10:51 | 0:10:53 | |
-because we haven't done that transition. -OK, yeah. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:56 | |
Then what is the transition? | 0:10:58 | 0:10:59 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:10:59 | 0:11:02 | |
Whichever one I start singing first! | 0:11:02 | 0:11:05 | |
At least we're not freaked out now when I get it wrong. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:08 | |
HE SINGS | 0:11:08 | 0:11:10 | |
I knew I was a writer from when I was about eight. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:26 | |
I knew that, I used to write plays, I don't know why, | 0:11:26 | 0:11:29 | |
I used to answer essays in play form, | 0:11:29 | 0:11:32 | |
and I was a sort of argumentative kid, | 0:11:32 | 0:11:34 | |
I always have been argumentative, and I suppose a bit precocious, | 0:11:34 | 0:11:39 | |
and I remember doing that and thinking this was funny, | 0:11:39 | 0:11:43 | |
and I wrote poetry. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:46 | |
It was all nonsense, you know, just like you have to learn, | 0:11:46 | 0:11:49 | |
and when I was 13, I started setting things to music. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:53 | |
I'd had a guitar since I was about ten, but I had never played it, | 0:11:53 | 0:11:57 | |
it was like a kid's one, and eventually when I was about 13, | 0:11:57 | 0:12:01 | |
I put steel strings on it, which wrecked it, of course, | 0:12:01 | 0:12:05 | |
and somebody had the chord changes of Man Of The World by Fleetwood Mac | 0:12:05 | 0:12:10 | |
written out in chord symbols, which isn't exactly an easy song, | 0:12:10 | 0:12:13 | |
it's not three chords, it's quite complicated, | 0:12:13 | 0:12:16 | |
but I was so enamoured of the song, I taught myself how to play it. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:19 | |
It was the first song I ever learned how to play, | 0:12:19 | 0:12:21 | |
and then went backwards and learned more simplified chords. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:24 | |
I just literally learned, memorised all of them and worked and worked | 0:12:24 | 0:12:27 | |
until I could play that one song, that was the only song I could play. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:30 | |
MUSIC: "Man Of The World" by Fleetwood Mac | 0:12:30 | 0:12:35 | |
I also inherited some clothes from my dad, because we were the same size. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:42 | |
So when I was, like, 13, I had some Nehru jackets, and he would | 0:12:44 | 0:12:48 | |
also get handmade shoes - by this point, he was earning a bit of money. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:52 | |
He was getting shoes made, and he was getting Chelsea boots made, | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
and they'd get a little worn from being on stage, and he'd get | 0:12:55 | 0:12:59 | |
some new ones, and they were perfectly serviceable for a teenager. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:03 | |
And then, of course, my feet grew, and I got a little taller | 0:13:03 | 0:13:06 | |
and I couldn't do it any more. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:08 | |
And then you go through that period | 0:13:08 | 0:13:10 | |
where you don't know what you are, who you are, you're all lumpy | 0:13:10 | 0:13:14 | |
and spotty and horrible, like most kids go through, | 0:13:14 | 0:13:17 | |
and I just never felt very good after that. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:19 | |
So I just found what worked for me, which was a suit jacket, | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
and I've worn that ever since, it doesn't matter how hot it is. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:27 | |
After his parents' separation, Elvis moved to Liverpool | 0:13:30 | 0:13:33 | |
with his mother, and continued his studies | 0:13:33 | 0:13:35 | |
at a Catholic secondary school. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:38 | |
We had this history teacher, he came into class every day, | 0:13:38 | 0:13:41 | |
opened a book and he dictated his own university notes to us. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:47 | |
I think we all resented the fact that he wasn't really teaching us, | 0:13:47 | 0:13:50 | |
so I would argue with him, | 0:13:50 | 0:13:51 | |
and I knew enough about history that I could argue with him. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:55 | |
That's how I knew...how I learned how to be provocative, | 0:13:55 | 0:13:58 | |
because he just pissed me off. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:00 | |
My friend was killed down there when I was 17. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:09 | |
Came out of an annexe... | 0:14:10 | 0:14:12 | |
..and then tried to get a lift from one of the teachers, | 0:14:14 | 0:14:17 | |
the 300 yards back to the school, and didn't see a car coming. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:22 | |
And to die at 17 like that, right in front of us, was terrible, you know. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:26 | |
HE WHISTLES | 0:14:28 | 0:14:30 | |
At 17, you think you're pretty much immortal, | 0:14:30 | 0:14:33 | |
so when that was brought home that we're not... | 0:14:33 | 0:14:36 | |
Although intellectually I knew we weren't immortal, | 0:14:36 | 0:14:39 | |
you still sort of thought, "Well, I've got lots of time," | 0:14:39 | 0:14:42 | |
and I thought, "Well, I'd better get on with it, then." | 0:14:42 | 0:14:44 | |
# Sitting in a park in Paris, France | 0:14:44 | 0:14:47 | |
# Reading the news and it sure looks bad | 0:14:47 | 0:14:50 | |
# They won't give peace a chance | 0:14:50 | 0:14:52 | |
# That was just a dream some of us had... # | 0:14:52 | 0:14:55 | |
He once told me that he'd gone out | 0:14:55 | 0:14:57 | |
and bought a copy of Joni Mitchell's Blue when it came out, | 0:14:57 | 0:15:00 | |
and he would have been, I guess, 17 at the time. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:03 | |
And he told me he physically wore out the grooves of the record | 0:15:04 | 0:15:08 | |
listening to Joni Mitchell's Blue. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:10 | |
Over and over again, in bed at night. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:12 | |
He had to go out and buy another copy in the end. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:15 | |
# I'll even kiss a Sunset pig | 0:15:15 | 0:15:17 | |
# California, I'm coming home... # | 0:15:17 | 0:15:20 | |
Elvis always had aspirations as a songwriter. | 0:15:23 | 0:15:26 | |
His earliest performances were in Liverpool's folk and country clubs. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:30 | |
I mostly played my own songs to begin with. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:34 | |
I didn't know how that was going to make a living, but... | 0:15:34 | 0:15:37 | |
Because my dad was a singer professionally, | 0:15:39 | 0:15:41 | |
I knew I didn't want to do what he did. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:43 | |
Because at some point, I didn't judge him for it, | 0:15:44 | 0:15:48 | |
but I knew he'd made a decision to go into entertainment. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:52 | |
Really when I was born, he went from playing the music that he loved | 0:15:52 | 0:15:56 | |
to playing music he could get paid for playing, | 0:15:56 | 0:15:59 | |
or singing, in his case. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:01 | |
By the way, there, just there, pull up, pull up. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:05 | |
That's called the St George's Project, and it used to be | 0:16:06 | 0:16:09 | |
called "The Blackie" | 0:16:09 | 0:16:11 | |
cos like most of the sandstone buildings in Liverpool, | 0:16:11 | 0:16:14 | |
they used to be black from the soot | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
and I was paid 50p, my first ever paying gig, to play there, | 0:16:17 | 0:16:22 | |
in 1970. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:24 | |
Nobody saw me and said, "I'm now going to make you a success." | 0:16:26 | 0:16:30 | |
I think the distance between what we were doing | 0:16:30 | 0:16:33 | |
and the reality of pop music at that moment was so great. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:37 | |
You had epic stadium music, or you had Slade and Gary Glitter. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:43 | |
You couldn't summon up anything that sounded like that | 0:16:43 | 0:16:46 | |
with two acoustic guitars. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:48 | |
# Don't lose your grip on love | 0:16:48 | 0:16:55 | |
# Don't lose your grip on love... # | 0:16:56 | 0:17:02 | |
He could see that I had been earning my living in a band | 0:17:04 | 0:17:08 | |
pretty much playing American roots music, which is what... | 0:17:08 | 0:17:12 | |
That was the key to it for him, the entrance was American roots music. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:18 | |
# I was tuning in the shine on the light night dial | 0:17:20 | 0:17:23 | |
# On the front of my radio... # | 0:17:23 | 0:17:26 | |
I heard demos of Flip City. I didn't really think much of them, | 0:17:28 | 0:17:31 | |
because none of them were very good players, including Declan. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:36 | |
But the ambition he had for himself | 0:17:36 | 0:17:39 | |
was way, way beyond his actual ability. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:42 | |
# What we need is a little music So here to entertain you... # | 0:17:42 | 0:17:48 | |
I sent tapes out, all around London to different publishers | 0:17:50 | 0:17:53 | |
because I believed I was a songwriter, not a performer, | 0:17:53 | 0:17:56 | |
and just got rejection notices, | 0:17:56 | 0:17:58 | |
so obviously, the songs I was writing, | 0:17:58 | 0:18:00 | |
either they didn't see anything in them | 0:18:00 | 0:18:03 | |
for the other artists they had... | 0:18:03 | 0:18:05 | |
The sort of artists they had, | 0:18:05 | 0:18:07 | |
when I think about it now, logically, the songs may have had some merit, | 0:18:07 | 0:18:11 | |
but it is hard to imagine how anybody who was currently in the pop scene | 0:18:11 | 0:18:15 | |
could have interpreted them. | 0:18:15 | 0:18:16 | |
Soon after, Elvis signed with a new indie, | 0:18:18 | 0:18:21 | |
created by mavericks Dave Robinson and Jake Riviera. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:24 | |
Just after I got my record contract, or around the time I did, | 0:18:24 | 0:18:28 | |
I lived in a block of flats behind there. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:30 | |
I used to get the train to Willesden Junction | 0:18:30 | 0:18:33 | |
and walk from Willesden past the Walls factory to Elizabeth Arden, | 0:18:33 | 0:18:37 | |
where I was working, I was working as a computer operator | 0:18:37 | 0:18:40 | |
because I was working an IBM 360 on my own, | 0:18:40 | 0:18:43 | |
and what I was doing was great because nobody knew what I was doing! | 0:18:43 | 0:18:47 | |
I was just pushing these buttons | 0:18:47 | 0:18:49 | |
and acting like it was much more difficult than it was, | 0:18:49 | 0:18:51 | |
and the machine took as long as it took to do the calculations. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:55 | |
If things went wrong, | 0:18:55 | 0:18:56 | |
it was because the printer physically chewed up the cards | 0:18:56 | 0:18:58 | |
and you'd have to get them retyped. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:00 | |
They were all things that delayed what you were doing | 0:19:00 | 0:19:03 | |
and give you lots of time to mess about, | 0:19:03 | 0:19:05 | |
and that messing about was writing my first record. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:07 | |
What I didn't write up in the bedroom there, I wrote at work. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:10 | |
I Cannot Turn It Off, take one. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:13 | |
# Basement babies strangling saxophones | 0:19:15 | 0:19:18 | |
# They got twisted motives | 0:19:18 | 0:19:22 | |
# They got eyes of stone | 0:19:22 | 0:19:24 | |
# And it's a terminal condition that is tattooed on their shoes | 0:19:24 | 0:19:28 | |
# It's not that they don't need you | 0:19:28 | 0:19:31 | |
# They're too mixed up to choose | 0:19:31 | 0:19:34 | |
# Broken noses hung up high on the wall | 0:19:34 | 0:19:39 | |
# Back-slapping drinkers cheer the championship brawl | 0:19:39 | 0:19:44 | |
# But they're so punch-drunk They don't understand the word defeat | 0:19:44 | 0:19:48 | |
# They can take you out and shoot you | 0:19:48 | 0:19:51 | |
# They can't confiscate that beat... # | 0:19:51 | 0:19:54 | |
# ..Cut loose in a nightmare Cast off in my dreams | 0:19:56 | 0:20:01 | |
# If home is anywhere that I can hang my hat | 0:20:01 | 0:20:04 | |
# Then it's coming apart at the seams | 0:20:04 | 0:20:08 | |
# My luck is hanging upside down | 0:20:08 | 0:20:12 | |
# I try to hold on tight | 0:20:12 | 0:20:14 | |
# But money's rolling out of town and love slips right out of sight | 0:20:14 | 0:20:20 | |
# And these bones don't look so good to me | 0:20:20 | 0:20:24 | |
# Jokers talk and they all disagree | 0:20:28 | 0:20:33 | |
# One day soon, I will laugh right in the face of the poison moon... # | 0:20:33 | 0:20:40 | |
You know, I didn't have any audience, I didn't have any knowledge of | 0:20:41 | 0:20:45 | |
an audience when I was writing the songs on My Aim Was True, | 0:20:45 | 0:20:47 | |
I just knew I had to write some songs... | 0:20:47 | 0:20:50 | |
..that would get me out the bedroom. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:54 | |
I was married to my first wife, and my young son, | 0:20:54 | 0:20:57 | |
and I didn't really have the money to be going out to join in what | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
was going on uptown, there was a new scene happening. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:03 | |
I'd always felt like I lived slightly off the pace | 0:21:03 | 0:21:06 | |
of where it was happening. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:08 | |
When I was a little kid, the Rolling Stones were playing | 0:21:08 | 0:21:11 | |
the other side of Richmond Bridge, but I was too young to go. | 0:21:11 | 0:21:15 | |
The Who were down the river, I was too young to go. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:18 | |
By the time I was out and about, it was all gone! | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
They'd left town. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:22 | |
# One day soon, I will laugh right in the face of the poison moon. # | 0:21:24 | 0:21:32 | |
And that wouldn't really go anywhere, that song, except now I can sing it. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:38 | |
And then I heard the first cues of punk, and I thought, | 0:21:40 | 0:21:43 | |
"Oh, it's a simpler, narrower thing that's getting people's attention." | 0:21:43 | 0:21:47 | |
# Calling Mister Oswald with the swastika tattoo | 0:21:47 | 0:21:51 | |
# There is a vacancy waiting in the English voodoo | 0:21:51 | 0:21:56 | |
# Carving "V" for vandal on the guilty boy's head... # | 0:21:56 | 0:21:58 | |
Even the very name of the company, it was daring people to say, | 0:21:58 | 0:22:01 | |
"You're not going to call it Marvellous Records, | 0:22:01 | 0:22:03 | |
"we'll call it Stiff Records." | 0:22:03 | 0:22:05 | |
And everything proceeded from that reverse way of looking at everything. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:09 | |
I think there was a great mythology about Stiff at the time. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:18 | |
It had a lot of pace and a lot of magic and very hard-hitting slogans. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:22 | |
Elvis had a very charismatic manager, Jake Riviera, | 0:22:24 | 0:22:28 | |
and that package was something that really helped his arrival, I think. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:32 | |
I remember being egged on, "Go on, do that, more extreme." | 0:22:40 | 0:22:45 | |
I got the impression that a lot of that was a very clever contrivance | 0:22:45 | 0:22:49 | |
between himself and his management and his record label, actually. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:53 | |
It was a cartoonish character that they had jointly invented, | 0:22:53 | 0:22:56 | |
beneath which he could operate - it gave him some manoeuvrability. | 0:22:56 | 0:22:59 | |
They knew that the image was inherently ridiculous | 0:23:00 | 0:23:04 | |
because I was so the opposite in appearance | 0:23:04 | 0:23:06 | |
to what a rock and roll star looked like in those days, | 0:23:06 | 0:23:09 | |
which was a guy with a shirt open to the navel | 0:23:09 | 0:23:12 | |
and a big mane of hair like Robert Plant or something, | 0:23:12 | 0:23:14 | |
so it was sort of satirical, in a sense, and it was a thin line, | 0:23:14 | 0:23:18 | |
even the name, and the adoption of a name | 0:23:18 | 0:23:21 | |
which was seen almost as a heresy to adopt Elvis, | 0:23:21 | 0:23:26 | |
Elvis was still alive, obviously. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:28 | |
It was just a dare that there could be two people with that name, | 0:23:29 | 0:23:32 | |
as previously there'd only been one. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:34 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:23:34 | 0:23:36 | |
You and I share something, in that we both... | 0:23:36 | 0:23:38 | |
er, adopted a new identity to get started, | 0:23:38 | 0:23:41 | |
-and I know it helped me sort of start again with songwriting. -Yes. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:45 | |
I had a group of songs, and then I found the way I was thinking | 0:23:45 | 0:23:48 | |
and the way I looked and the way I was named all fitted together, | 0:23:48 | 0:23:51 | |
but it took me a while to work out | 0:23:51 | 0:23:53 | |
whether this new identity was supposed to be a suit of armour | 0:23:53 | 0:23:58 | |
or this sort of Superman suit that I got into in a telephone box. | 0:23:58 | 0:24:03 | |
But you made a wise choice. I mean, Declan McManus, | 0:24:03 | 0:24:05 | |
-people were thinking... -They were expecting a guy | 0:24:05 | 0:24:08 | |
in a cable-knit sweater singing whaling songs. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:10 | |
One gentleman last May was relatively unknown. | 0:24:13 | 0:24:16 | |
He had hardly even played one proper date, and yet his aim was true. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:20 | |
# It's so funny to be seeing you after so long, girl | 0:24:20 | 0:24:24 | |
# And with the way you look | 0:24:24 | 0:24:25 | |
# I understand that you were not impressed | 0:24:25 | 0:24:29 | |
# But I heard you let that little friend of mine | 0:24:29 | 0:24:34 | |
# Take off your party dress | 0:24:34 | 0:24:37 | |
# I'm not going to get too sentimental | 0:24:39 | 0:24:43 | |
# Like those other sticky Valentines | 0:24:43 | 0:24:47 | |
# Cos I don't know if you've been loving somebody... # | 0:24:49 | 0:24:52 | |
Elvis' breakthrough first album, My Aim Is True, | 0:24:52 | 0:24:54 | |
was produced by Nick Lowe | 0:24:54 | 0:24:56 | |
with backing from the laid-back Californian country rockers Clover. | 0:24:56 | 0:24:59 | |
# Alison... # | 0:24:59 | 0:25:02 | |
But to match the explosive feel of punk, | 0:25:04 | 0:25:06 | |
Elvis needed a band with more edge. | 0:25:06 | 0:25:08 | |
The Attractions had a mixture of high energy and musical talent | 0:25:10 | 0:25:14 | |
that suited Elvis perfectly. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:16 | |
# See her picture in a thousand places, she's this year's girl | 0:25:18 | 0:25:22 | |
# You think you all own little pieces of this year's girl | 0:25:24 | 0:25:28 | |
# Forget your fancy manners... # | 0:25:30 | 0:25:33 | |
'It's always curious when it's a group, | 0:25:33 | 0:25:35 | |
'when it's one man's songs, but it's four men's delivery of it, | 0:25:35 | 0:25:39 | |
'but I couldn't have done what I did | 0:25:39 | 0:25:41 | |
'if it hadn't been for those individual players of Steve Nieve | 0:25:41 | 0:25:44 | |
'and Bruce Thomas and Pete Thomas, but in terms of the way | 0:25:44 | 0:25:47 | |
'the whole ship was being steered, that was largely my idea.' | 0:25:47 | 0:25:51 | |
# No surprises for this year's girl | 0:25:51 | 0:25:53 | |
# All this, but no surprises for this year's girl... # | 0:25:55 | 0:25:59 | |
He always was a pretty benign dictator. He knew the value of, | 0:26:02 | 0:26:06 | |
you know, what's the point of getting great inventive musicians | 0:26:06 | 0:26:10 | |
around you and then telling them what to do? | 0:26:10 | 0:26:13 | |
There's absolutely no point in that. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:15 | |
When it came down to it, he'd say, "Look, it's my record," you know, | 0:26:15 | 0:26:19 | |
"I don't like that, that's got to go." | 0:26:19 | 0:26:22 | |
Then also he wanted to try stuff which I just thought, | 0:26:22 | 0:26:25 | |
"This will never work, this will never, ever work. | 0:26:25 | 0:26:28 | |
"Trust me, this will never work." | 0:26:28 | 0:26:29 | |
But it blooming well did. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:31 | |
# Some of my friends sit around every evening | 0:26:31 | 0:26:34 | |
# And they worry about the times ahead | 0:26:34 | 0:26:37 | |
# But everybody else is overwhelmed by indifference | 0:26:37 | 0:26:40 | |
# And the promise of an early bed | 0:26:40 | 0:26:43 | |
# You either shut up or get cut out They don't wanna hear about it | 0:26:43 | 0:26:47 | |
# It's only inches on the reel-to-reel | 0:26:47 | 0:26:51 | |
# And the radio is in the hands of such a lot of fools | 0:26:51 | 0:26:54 | |
# Trying to anaesthetise the way that you feel | 0:26:54 | 0:26:57 | |
# Radio is a sound salvation | 0:26:57 | 0:27:00 | |
# Radio is cleaning up the nation | 0:27:00 | 0:27:03 | |
# They say you'd better listen to the voice of reason | 0:27:05 | 0:27:08 | |
# But they don't give you any choice cos they think that it's treason | 0:27:10 | 0:27:14 | |
# So you had better do as you are told | 0:27:15 | 0:27:18 | |
# You'd better listen to the radio | 0:27:18 | 0:27:21 | |
# Wonderful radio | 0:27:23 | 0:27:25 | |
# Marvellous radio | 0:27:27 | 0:27:29 | |
# Wonderful radio | 0:27:30 | 0:27:32 | |
# Radio, radio | 0:27:33 | 0:27:35 | |
# Radio, radio... # | 0:27:36 | 0:27:38 | |
Please welcome Elvis Costello and The Attractions! | 0:27:40 | 0:27:44 | |
CHEERING | 0:27:44 | 0:27:47 | |
You! Up! | 0:27:57 | 0:27:59 | |
This song's called Pump It Up! | 0:27:59 | 0:28:01 | |
I think it's about time you showed some life! | 0:28:01 | 0:28:04 | |
This is supposed to be a good town! | 0:28:04 | 0:28:06 | |
Are you going to let us down? | 0:28:06 | 0:28:08 | |
'I wasn't on the, "Good evening, ladies and gentlemen, how are you doing?" side of it. | 0:28:08 | 0:28:13 | |
'I was on the, "Let's make people uncomfortable temporarily | 0:28:13 | 0:28:17 | |
'"so it takes away the preconceived ideas | 0:28:17 | 0:28:19 | |
'"or who they think you are and what this is about' | 0:28:19 | 0:28:22 | |
"and maybe they'll hear it differently." | 0:28:22 | 0:28:24 | |
That was maybe a little bit of youthful arrogance. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:27 | |
# Not just another mouth in the lipstick vogue | 0:28:27 | 0:28:32 | |
# It's you | 0:28:33 | 0:28:36 | |
# Not just another mouth in the lipstick vogue | 0:28:38 | 0:28:42 | |
# Oh, yeah... # | 0:28:43 | 0:28:45 | |
'People thought that the first album that I wrote with The Attractions | 0:28:47 | 0:28:50 | |
'was somehow a misogynistic record. | 0:28:50 | 0:28:53 | |
'It actually wasn't. It was the opposite of that.' | 0:28:53 | 0:28:55 | |
It was like... It was a love letter to the idea of something | 0:28:55 | 0:29:01 | |
that sustained beyond superficial appearance, | 0:29:01 | 0:29:06 | |
'that you were better than the lipstick you wore, | 0:29:06 | 0:29:09 | |
'you know, that you were a better person than that.' | 0:29:09 | 0:29:11 | |
I just didn't really express it very articulately. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:14 | |
It came out as being embittered or some sort of male frustration thing. | 0:29:14 | 0:29:18 | |
I think that was mainly in the eye of the beholder. | 0:29:18 | 0:29:21 | |
# Not just another mouth in the lipstick vogue | 0:29:22 | 0:29:26 | |
# It's you | 0:29:27 | 0:29:29 | |
# Not just another mouth in the lipstick vogue | 0:29:32 | 0:29:35 | |
# Oh, yeah... # | 0:29:37 | 0:29:39 | |
'I suppose that goes right back to the beginning of my career - | 0:29:42 | 0:29:45 | |
'being on Stiff Records, | 0:29:45 | 0:29:46 | |
'there was always a little bit of that double talk in everything we did | 0:29:46 | 0:29:50 | |
'and it kind of got me in a lot of trouble in the late '70s | 0:29:50 | 0:29:54 | |
'when I got in a bar fight with Stephen Stills' band | 0:29:54 | 0:29:57 | |
'and it started with a sort of one-upmanship thing' | 0:29:57 | 0:30:01 | |
of, "You guys don't really like music, | 0:30:01 | 0:30:03 | |
"you don't even know the great music under your nose," | 0:30:03 | 0:30:05 | |
and I ended up, because I was so drunk and on drugs, | 0:30:05 | 0:30:08 | |
saying really the most despicable things and, of course, | 0:30:08 | 0:30:12 | |
it should have not gone any further than the idiotic bar fight it was, | 0:30:12 | 0:30:15 | |
but it did, and you lose all of your compass | 0:30:15 | 0:30:18 | |
in life, as much as in work or anything, | 0:30:18 | 0:30:22 | |
and you realise the thin line between joking | 0:30:22 | 0:30:25 | |
and then using words that don't belong to you. | 0:30:25 | 0:30:28 | |
# Just want to hear you say | 0:30:28 | 0:30:29 | |
# Just want to hear you tell me... # | 0:30:31 | 0:30:33 | |
'I stood outside of it a lot. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:34 | |
'I never really felt like I was the person, | 0:30:34 | 0:30:37 | |
'you know, there was a character that I was writing a lot of the time. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:41 | |
'People just made the assumption it had to be true.' | 0:30:41 | 0:30:44 | |
# I'm not lyrical | 0:30:44 | 0:30:46 | |
# I'm not | 0:30:46 | 0:30:47 | |
# I'm not | 0:30:49 | 0:30:51 | |
# I'm not | 0:30:52 | 0:30:54 | |
# I'm not... # | 0:30:54 | 0:30:55 | |
And I suppose the tumultuous nature of it | 0:30:57 | 0:31:00 | |
and some of the tormenting nature of it | 0:31:00 | 0:31:03 | |
ended up stimulating or generating songs | 0:31:03 | 0:31:06 | |
and it became sort of like a catchphrase | 0:31:06 | 0:31:09 | |
that the songs were about revenge and guilt. | 0:31:09 | 0:31:11 | |
They were actually much more about guilt than revenge. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:14 | |
# I'm not | 0:31:14 | 0:31:15 | |
# I'm not | 0:31:17 | 0:31:18 | |
# I'm not | 0:31:20 | 0:31:21 | |
# I'm not... # | 0:31:22 | 0:31:24 | |
MUSIC OVER SPEECH | 0:31:37 | 0:31:40 | |
Thank you! And good night! | 0:31:45 | 0:31:47 | |
FEEDBACK ECHOES | 0:31:49 | 0:31:51 | |
I think at a certain point he realised that | 0:31:58 | 0:32:02 | |
our sort of shenanigans had to come to an end | 0:32:02 | 0:32:06 | |
if he was going to transcend | 0:32:06 | 0:32:08 | |
and go forward further, which obviously he did. | 0:32:08 | 0:32:12 | |
# High fidelity | 0:32:12 | 0:32:16 | |
# Can you hear me? Can you hear me? | 0:32:19 | 0:32:23 | |
# Can you hear me? # | 0:32:23 | 0:32:26 | |
We just copied little bits of records, | 0:32:27 | 0:32:29 | |
kind of the way people do it now with samplers. | 0:32:29 | 0:32:31 | |
We were just replaying bits of things we had absorbed. | 0:32:31 | 0:32:35 | |
As a teenager, all you needed to listen to at a party | 0:32:35 | 0:32:39 | |
was a Motown compilation | 0:32:39 | 0:32:41 | |
and early reggae records that caught on in the late '60s. | 0:32:41 | 0:32:45 | |
That's where the sound of my first records, it comes from that, | 0:32:45 | 0:32:50 | |
it's a mixture of the Small Faces... version of R&B, | 0:32:50 | 0:32:56 | |
because I couldn't play...I didn't have big guitars like the Stones | 0:32:56 | 0:32:59 | |
and didn't have any vocal harmony in the band, | 0:32:59 | 0:33:01 | |
so as much as I love the Beatles, I couldn't imitate them, | 0:33:01 | 0:33:04 | |
just a few chord changes I could steal from them. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:06 | |
What I'm saying is, the foundation in listening that began | 0:33:06 | 0:33:11 | |
with going and seeing my dad have to synthesise all this music, | 0:33:11 | 0:33:15 | |
it gave me a different way of looking at music | 0:33:15 | 0:33:18 | |
than somebody who just liked that group. | 0:33:18 | 0:33:21 | |
I actually saw how that thing was constructed. | 0:33:21 | 0:33:24 | |
I could actually hear into it. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:26 | |
# Can you hear me? # | 0:33:26 | 0:33:30 | |
In 1980, I actually took my band, The Attractions, | 0:33:38 | 0:33:41 | |
to a choreographer so that we could learn | 0:33:41 | 0:33:44 | |
what we thought were some Motown-style steps for a music video. | 0:33:44 | 0:33:49 | |
Now, in my mind, we were going to look exactly like the Temptations... | 0:33:49 | 0:33:52 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:33:52 | 0:33:54 | |
..ignoring the fact that we were ill-assorted shapes and sizes, | 0:33:54 | 0:33:57 | |
and I personally have the dancing skill of a cement mixer, but... | 0:33:57 | 0:34:00 | |
being too embarrassed to get out of my chair, | 0:34:00 | 0:34:03 | |
I decided to have a little glass of wine to loosen my inhibitions, | 0:34:03 | 0:34:06 | |
and after four or five glasses, I arrived at the theory | 0:34:06 | 0:34:10 | |
that Smokey used to stand pretty still and look cool | 0:34:10 | 0:34:13 | |
and the Miracles went through their paces, | 0:34:13 | 0:34:17 | |
and here is the grisly evidence. | 0:34:17 | 0:34:19 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:34:22 | 0:34:25 | |
'Have you any... have you any tips for me?' | 0:34:26 | 0:34:29 | |
# I'm the living result | 0:34:29 | 0:34:31 | |
# I'm a man | 0:34:32 | 0:34:35 | |
# Who's been hurt a little too much | 0:34:36 | 0:34:38 | |
# And I've tasted the bitterness of my own tears | 0:34:40 | 0:34:45 | |
# Sadness is all my lonely heart can feel... # | 0:34:46 | 0:34:52 | |
'After the first five years, you know, we'd been pop stars of a kind, | 0:34:52 | 0:34:56 | |
'we'd had loads of hits in England. | 0:34:56 | 0:34:58 | |
'We'd had some minor hits in places in Europe and had toured around, | 0:34:58 | 0:35:02 | |
'but I could see that it was kind of silly, | 0:35:02 | 0:35:05 | |
'that being in pop music, it was kind of silly.' | 0:35:05 | 0:35:09 | |
We were actually in pop magazines with colour pictures | 0:35:09 | 0:35:12 | |
people were supposed to put on their wall. It felt ludicrous. | 0:35:12 | 0:35:16 | |
I mean, I became disenchanted with the whole idea | 0:35:16 | 0:35:19 | |
of keeping the songs in the pop mainstream | 0:35:19 | 0:35:22 | |
and we made records that I immediately disliked. | 0:35:22 | 0:35:25 | |
I mean, I was sort of on the routine of making records | 0:35:25 | 0:35:29 | |
because it said that this day we had to make a record. | 0:35:29 | 0:35:32 | |
I always said I'd never let myself do that | 0:35:32 | 0:35:34 | |
and suddenly found myself doing exactly that. | 0:35:34 | 0:35:36 | |
We made a record because it said at this hour we must have a record. | 0:35:36 | 0:35:39 | |
# What's on his mind now is anyone's guess | 0:35:39 | 0:35:44 | |
# Losing his touch with each caress | 0:35:44 | 0:35:47 | |
# Spend every evening looking so appealing | 0:35:47 | 0:35:52 | |
# Comes without warning Leaves without feeling | 0:35:52 | 0:35:56 | |
# Shot with his own gun | 0:35:58 | 0:36:00 | |
# Now dad is keeping mum | 0:36:02 | 0:36:05 | |
# Shot with his own gun | 0:36:06 | 0:36:09 | |
# On your marks, ready, set | 0:36:11 | 0:36:16 | |
# Let's get loaded and forget... # | 0:36:16 | 0:36:21 | |
Turning his back on the pop mainstream, Elvis concentrated | 0:36:22 | 0:36:26 | |
on exploring the formative elements of his musical identity. | 0:36:26 | 0:36:29 | |
It's as if each new experiment or collaboration, | 0:36:29 | 0:36:32 | |
however surprising to his fans, were part of a journey of self-discovery. | 0:36:32 | 0:36:37 | |
There are times when you'd realise | 0:36:37 | 0:36:39 | |
that it didn't matter what you were writing about, | 0:36:39 | 0:36:42 | |
people weren't really hearing it. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:44 | |
So I remember I wasn't really feeling... | 0:36:44 | 0:36:46 | |
I couldn't really get at the feelings I had in the songs I was writing, | 0:36:46 | 0:36:50 | |
so I decided to do a bunch of songs that I liked by other people. | 0:36:50 | 0:36:53 | |
# Why don't you love me like used to do? | 0:37:06 | 0:37:08 | |
# How come you treat me like a worn-out shoe? | 0:37:08 | 0:37:11 | |
# My hair is still curly and my eyes are still blue | 0:37:11 | 0:37:13 | |
# Why don't you love me like you used to do? | 0:37:13 | 0:37:16 | |
# Ain't had no lovin'... # | 0:37:16 | 0:37:17 | |
Sometimes it meant trying to take people with you | 0:37:17 | 0:37:19 | |
into your own curiosity or your own particular love of the moment, | 0:37:19 | 0:37:23 | |
which was what happened, I suppose, when I wanted to sing country songs, | 0:37:23 | 0:37:28 | |
because there's no logical reason why I should want to do that. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:31 | |
# I'm the same old trouble that you've always been through | 0:37:31 | 0:37:34 | |
# Why don't you love me like you used to do? # | 0:37:34 | 0:37:36 | |
Once we got Billy Sherrill involved, I was most pleased to have him | 0:37:38 | 0:37:42 | |
because he was Charlie Rich's producer, as much as anything else, | 0:37:42 | 0:37:46 | |
and George Jones', | 0:37:46 | 0:37:47 | |
but I knew I couldn't sing half as well as those guys, | 0:37:47 | 0:37:50 | |
but I imagined there would be this tension | 0:37:50 | 0:37:53 | |
between my voice being the way it was | 0:37:53 | 0:37:55 | |
and the more finished way his record sounded. | 0:37:55 | 0:37:58 | |
We took the band, which immediately threw a spanner in the works, | 0:37:58 | 0:38:02 | |
because we didn't play like anybody had ever heard, you know, | 0:38:02 | 0:38:06 | |
so the tension was palpable | 0:38:06 | 0:38:08 | |
and we were up all night sort of drinking and carousing | 0:38:08 | 0:38:11 | |
and then dragged to the studio to record this country record. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:15 | |
-# Sweet -Sweet | 0:38:17 | 0:38:20 | |
# Dreams | 0:38:20 | 0:38:22 | |
# Of you | 0:38:22 | 0:38:25 | |
-# Every night -Every night | 0:38:25 | 0:38:29 | |
# I go through | 0:38:29 | 0:38:33 | |
# I should hate you, girl | 0:38:36 | 0:38:41 | |
# The whole night through | 0:38:41 | 0:38:45 | |
# Instead of having sweet dreams all about you | 0:38:45 | 0:38:52 | |
# Instead of having sweet dreams about you. # | 0:38:53 | 0:39:01 | |
It was brave of them to do it, and a symptom of the time when | 0:39:11 | 0:39:16 | |
they thought that you could do anything, | 0:39:16 | 0:39:18 | |
if you wanted to do it enough, you could do anything, | 0:39:18 | 0:39:21 | |
and that's what he's always thought. | 0:39:21 | 0:39:23 | |
And weirdly enough, it was a hit. | 0:39:23 | 0:39:27 | |
At least, in England it was a hit, | 0:39:27 | 0:39:28 | |
and a bunch of other countries in Europe. We had a huge hit single, | 0:39:28 | 0:39:31 | |
A Good Year For The Roses, | 0:39:31 | 0:39:33 | |
which reversed the fortunes of the previous two or three years, | 0:39:33 | 0:39:36 | |
where things had been tailing off, | 0:39:36 | 0:39:37 | |
and suddenly we were in the Top 10 again. So it just goes to show. | 0:39:37 | 0:39:41 | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:39:41 | 0:39:43 | |
I wrote a song for a lark once, with just ten minutes to spare, | 0:39:43 | 0:39:48 | |
and the song sort of went on to be a little bit of a hit. | 0:39:48 | 0:39:52 | |
I always kind of thought that we made a hash of the recording, | 0:39:52 | 0:39:55 | |
but people seemed to like it plenty, | 0:39:55 | 0:39:57 | |
then one night I was on tour with Ron in Japan, | 0:39:57 | 0:39:59 | |
and you played this version of this song of mine. | 0:39:59 | 0:40:02 | |
So, you know what? I'm not even going to say what it is. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:05 | |
It's a song he rescued for me. | 0:40:05 | 0:40:08 | |
# Don't tell me you don't know | 0:40:19 | 0:40:23 | |
# What love is | 0:40:23 | 0:40:25 | |
# When you're old enough to know better | 0:40:25 | 0:40:30 | |
# When you find strange hands in your sweater | 0:40:30 | 0:40:36 | |
# When your dreamboat turns out to be a footnote | 0:40:36 | 0:40:42 | |
# I'm a man with a mission in two or three editions | 0:40:42 | 0:40:48 | |
# Yeah, I'm giving you a longing look | 0:40:48 | 0:40:53 | |
# Every day, every day, every day | 0:40:53 | 0:40:57 | |
# Every day I write the book... # | 0:40:57 | 0:41:00 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:41:00 | 0:41:02 | |
# Chapter one We didn't really get along | 0:41:04 | 0:41:10 | |
# Chapter two I think I fell in love with you | 0:41:10 | 0:41:15 | |
# You said you'd stand by me in the middle of chapter three | 0:41:16 | 0:41:22 | |
# But you were up to your old tricks in chapters four, five and six | 0:41:22 | 0:41:29 | |
# And I'm giving you a longing look | 0:41:29 | 0:41:34 | |
# Every day, every day, every day Every day I write the book... # | 0:41:34 | 0:41:41 | |
You come across as actually very serious-minded about your work. | 0:41:41 | 0:41:45 | |
No, I'm not. I enjoy it | 0:41:45 | 0:41:46 | |
and I enjoy it a lot more than going to a lot of empty-headed parties | 0:41:46 | 0:41:50 | |
with a lot of boring people that I don't want to meet. | 0:41:50 | 0:41:52 | |
Are you actually a political artist? | 0:41:52 | 0:41:55 | |
Do you sit down and try to write political songs that have a message? | 0:41:55 | 0:41:58 | |
I don't see politics as something that you keep in a box | 0:41:58 | 0:42:00 | |
and take out once a day and play with like a dog. | 0:42:00 | 0:42:03 | |
You know, I think it's inside of all your life | 0:42:03 | 0:42:05 | |
and I write about things that matter to me, that I feel strongly about, | 0:42:05 | 0:42:09 | |
and if some people... other people call them political | 0:42:09 | 0:42:11 | |
-then that's fair enough. -Which, indeed, sometimes they are. | 0:42:11 | 0:42:14 | |
Yeah, I suppose if they deal, rather than affairs of the heart, | 0:42:14 | 0:42:18 | |
with just affairs of state, if you like, | 0:42:18 | 0:42:20 | |
then I suppose you can't avoid calling them political. | 0:42:20 | 0:42:22 | |
I love the way he uses words. | 0:42:22 | 0:42:25 | |
He can use metaphors | 0:42:25 | 0:42:27 | |
and poetic images to have enormous soulful impact. | 0:42:27 | 0:42:30 | |
There's a great song, Shipbuilding, | 0:42:30 | 0:42:32 | |
which was the song he wrote about the conflict in the Falkland Islands | 0:42:32 | 0:42:37 | |
in 1982, this war that was so controversial. | 0:42:37 | 0:42:41 | |
Margaret Thatcher had gone into battle over the ownership | 0:42:41 | 0:42:44 | |
of this tiny piece of real estate | 0:42:44 | 0:42:46 | |
that no-one in their right minds really appeared to care about, | 0:42:46 | 0:42:50 | |
and Elvis' song, which when he wrote it, | 0:42:50 | 0:42:52 | |
he thought was the greatest lyric he'd written in his life. | 0:42:52 | 0:42:55 | |
I remember him coming into the office where I work to tell me, | 0:42:55 | 0:42:57 | |
to give me a copy, to tell me this, | 0:42:57 | 0:42:59 | |
and I thought he had every right to say so, | 0:42:59 | 0:43:01 | |
and in that lyric he talks about | 0:43:01 | 0:43:03 | |
diving for dear life when we should be diving for pearls, | 0:43:03 | 0:43:07 | |
which is an extraordinary... I can't think of a greater example | 0:43:07 | 0:43:10 | |
of a kind of velvet glove with an iron fist inside it, lyrically. | 0:43:10 | 0:43:14 | |
# Is it worth it? | 0:43:21 | 0:43:24 | |
# A new winter coat and shoes for the wife | 0:43:26 | 0:43:31 | |
# And a bicycle on the boy's birthday | 0:43:33 | 0:43:38 | |
# It's just a rumour that was spread around town | 0:43:38 | 0:43:42 | |
# By the women and children | 0:43:44 | 0:43:46 | |
# Soon we'll be shipbuilding... # | 0:43:46 | 0:43:50 | |
I think Elvis actually preferred Robert's version of it. | 0:43:54 | 0:43:56 | |
It was more passive. | 0:43:56 | 0:43:59 | |
I mean, Elvis, by his very nature, is a little bit more aggressive | 0:43:59 | 0:44:03 | |
but Robert's is so mournful and so forlorn | 0:44:03 | 0:44:07 | |
and so it paints such a pitiful picture. | 0:44:07 | 0:44:10 | |
# It's just a rumour that was spread around town | 0:44:10 | 0:44:15 | |
# Somebody said that someone got filled in | 0:44:15 | 0:44:21 | |
# For saying that people get killed in | 0:44:21 | 0:44:26 | |
# The result of this shipbuilding | 0:44:26 | 0:44:32 | |
# With all the will in the world | 0:44:34 | 0:44:39 | |
# Diving for dear life | 0:44:39 | 0:44:43 | |
# When we could be diving for pearls. # | 0:44:43 | 0:44:49 | |
My grandfather Patrick was put in an orphanage in Southall. | 0:44:54 | 0:44:58 | |
And when he left the orphanage, he went into Kneller Hall, | 0:44:58 | 0:45:01 | |
military school of music. | 0:45:01 | 0:45:03 | |
Became a boy soldier. | 0:45:04 | 0:45:05 | |
His father had come over from Northern Ireland | 0:45:06 | 0:45:09 | |
sometime in the 19th century. | 0:45:09 | 0:45:11 | |
He had married an older woman who had died childless | 0:45:11 | 0:45:14 | |
and then he had married a younger woman, Elizabeth Costello. | 0:45:14 | 0:45:18 | |
And I think she had seven or eight kids. | 0:45:18 | 0:45:25 | |
And my grandfather was wounded in the First World War. | 0:45:25 | 0:45:28 | |
He was a noncombatant anyway, he was an orderly, being a musician, | 0:45:28 | 0:45:31 | |
he wasn't trained as a fighting soldier. | 0:45:31 | 0:45:34 | |
He eventually left the Army at 21, I think. | 0:45:34 | 0:45:39 | |
He joined the White Star Line and he worked for ten years on liners. | 0:45:39 | 0:45:44 | |
Travelling all over the place, but predominantly to New York. | 0:45:44 | 0:45:48 | |
They were playing formal music. | 0:45:50 | 0:45:54 | |
They weren't playing jazz or anything. | 0:45:54 | 0:45:56 | |
They were playing light classics and sentimental tunes, | 0:45:56 | 0:45:59 | |
that's mostly what they played. | 0:45:59 | 0:46:01 | |
The fact I ended up doing the same job as my dad | 0:46:33 | 0:46:37 | |
disguises the fact that I come from a... | 0:46:37 | 0:46:40 | |
a... | 0:46:40 | 0:46:41 | |
Well, we come from here. | 0:46:43 | 0:46:46 | |
This is where my mother was born. | 0:46:47 | 0:46:50 | |
So, this one. 36. | 0:46:53 | 0:46:55 | |
And, um... | 0:46:57 | 0:46:59 | |
But my memory of it is, coming to this house to see my grandad, | 0:46:59 | 0:47:04 | |
Jim Ablett. By the time he became a man, the war came, the first war. | 0:47:04 | 0:47:09 | |
And in '15 he got captured. He spent four years on a farm in Germany. | 0:47:09 | 0:47:15 | |
But he didn't talk at all about what he had seen. Such traumatic things. | 0:47:15 | 0:47:21 | |
And he wasn't particularly an easy man, he was quite violent. | 0:47:21 | 0:47:25 | |
He would stand in the front room, when I was leaving... | 0:47:26 | 0:47:29 | |
Every time I left, he would do this. That is my main memory of him. | 0:47:29 | 0:47:33 | |
He had wavy auburn hair, standing there, and he would do this. | 0:47:33 | 0:47:36 | |
"Punch my hands. | 0:47:36 | 0:47:38 | |
"Harder. Punch my hands." | 0:47:38 | 0:47:40 | |
And that's what he thought I should learn how to do. | 0:47:42 | 0:47:45 | |
And I have never been a fighter. | 0:47:45 | 0:47:47 | |
Never been into boxing or anything, or hitting people. | 0:47:47 | 0:47:50 | |
But he was convinced that | 0:47:50 | 0:47:52 | |
if he didn't do that, it would be the ruin of me. | 0:47:52 | 0:47:55 | |
There were four members of the family, the Ablett family, | 0:47:56 | 0:47:59 | |
living in this street at one point, | 0:47:59 | 0:48:01 | |
this little short street, Holmes Street. | 0:48:01 | 0:48:04 | |
You know, all of the virtues that people talk about, | 0:48:04 | 0:48:07 | |
doors being open, all that stuff that people romanticise - actually true. | 0:48:07 | 0:48:11 | |
You know, this is like half a mile from Penny Lane, | 0:48:11 | 0:48:15 | |
so when the Beatles were singing about that, | 0:48:15 | 0:48:18 | |
it's just a neighbourhood place, | 0:48:18 | 0:48:20 | |
and that was sort of the magic of it, really, that they made | 0:48:20 | 0:48:24 | |
something really magical about something actually quite mundane. | 0:48:24 | 0:48:27 | |
If you drive to Penny Lane, it's nothing at all. | 0:48:27 | 0:48:30 | |
# Here we go! | 0:48:30 | 0:48:32 | |
# One! Two! One, two, three | 0:48:32 | 0:48:34 | |
# Twenty-five fingers, baby | 0:48:34 | 0:48:36 | |
# I love your nails, I love your touch, I love to touch you, baby | 0:48:36 | 0:48:39 | |
# It never fails to kill me | 0:48:39 | 0:48:40 | |
# Some say gimme five But I'll give you ten | 0:48:40 | 0:48:43 | |
# You could make it twenty But you're holding out again | 0:48:43 | 0:48:45 | |
# Think it over, think it over, baby | 0:48:45 | 0:48:48 | |
# Well, think it over Think it over, baby | 0:48:48 | 0:48:51 | |
# I will always love you... # | 0:48:51 | 0:48:53 | |
So, one day my manager said, "Do you fancy writing with Elvis Costello?" | 0:48:53 | 0:48:59 | |
"Yeah, that'd be good. I would like to write with him." | 0:48:59 | 0:49:03 | |
I know that he was into the Beatles | 0:49:03 | 0:49:06 | |
and he knew a lot of what we did. | 0:49:06 | 0:49:10 | |
He's from Liverpool, so I thought we'd probably get on well, | 0:49:10 | 0:49:15 | |
and I admired his songwriting, | 0:49:15 | 0:49:17 | |
so I thought, yeah, it'd be worth giving it a go. | 0:49:17 | 0:49:20 | |
So we were set up on a date. | 0:49:20 | 0:49:23 | |
I was sitting across from him, we were firing lines back and forward | 0:49:23 | 0:49:26 | |
and I'm singing harmony with him and I can't believe this is happening, | 0:49:26 | 0:49:30 | |
and we wrote a bunch of songs, | 0:49:30 | 0:49:32 | |
we wrote about 12 songs over a couple of years. | 0:49:32 | 0:49:34 | |
And we really, for me, | 0:49:34 | 0:49:36 | |
we were copying the system that I'd used with John, | 0:49:36 | 0:49:39 | |
and in fact, the only system I really have ever known, | 0:49:39 | 0:49:44 | |
face to face, looking each other in the eye, | 0:49:44 | 0:49:48 | |
pad of paper and pencil, | 0:49:48 | 0:49:52 | |
two guitars, and you just start strumming. | 0:49:52 | 0:49:55 | |
And we did virtually what John and I did, | 0:49:55 | 0:49:59 | |
which was just made up a song a day. | 0:49:59 | 0:50:01 | |
We wrote a really wonderful song called The Lovers That Never Were, | 0:50:01 | 0:50:05 | |
that was almost like a big, epic ballad. | 0:50:05 | 0:50:09 | |
I remember I was playing piano | 0:50:10 | 0:50:12 | |
and it was unusual because he's a much better pianist than me, | 0:50:12 | 0:50:15 | |
but for some reason I played the piano on the demo, | 0:50:15 | 0:50:18 | |
and I was just trying not to mess it up, | 0:50:18 | 0:50:20 | |
and he starts singing over my shoulder | 0:50:20 | 0:50:22 | |
this most extraordinary vocal. | 0:50:22 | 0:50:24 | |
One of the best things I've ever heard in my life was him | 0:50:24 | 0:50:27 | |
singing flat out, this really raw kind of singing, | 0:50:27 | 0:50:31 | |
like the singing on I'm Down, only it's a ballad. | 0:50:31 | 0:50:34 | |
# I have always needed somebody, girl | 0:50:35 | 0:50:43 | |
# Oh | 0:50:44 | 0:50:46 | |
# But I close the door to keep out the world | 0:50:46 | 0:50:51 | |
# But for you | 0:50:51 | 0:50:54 | |
# I would be here all alone | 0:50:54 | 0:50:58 | |
# Locked in a photograph | 0:50:58 | 0:51:01 | |
# All of the clocks have run down | 0:51:01 | 0:51:06 | |
# Lover beware | 0:51:06 | 0:51:11 | |
# We'll be the lovers that never were... # | 0:51:11 | 0:51:18 | |
You know, that was a potential worry, | 0:51:18 | 0:51:22 | |
that we were just going to sort of write Beatles songs again, | 0:51:22 | 0:51:25 | |
but time had gone by for both of us, | 0:51:25 | 0:51:27 | |
so it was always going to be different, | 0:51:27 | 0:51:29 | |
but I think at the back of our minds, you know, | 0:51:29 | 0:51:33 | |
we were writing Beatle-esque songs. | 0:51:33 | 0:51:37 | |
# Here lies the powder and perfume | 0:51:37 | 0:51:41 | |
# The pretty clothes are scattered round the room | 0:51:43 | 0:51:49 | |
# And it's so like Candy... # | 0:51:49 | 0:51:55 | |
He was good on the old lyrics, I must say. | 0:51:55 | 0:51:59 | |
I think probably in the end, | 0:51:59 | 0:52:02 | |
we contributed roughly the same to the song, | 0:52:02 | 0:52:06 | |
but he might have had a little more to do with the lyrics than I did. | 0:52:06 | 0:52:11 | |
I think he also had a clear idea of what he wanted to do, | 0:52:11 | 0:52:16 | |
whereas I was kind of all, "Let's see where this leads us." | 0:52:16 | 0:52:20 | |
# What did I do to make her go? | 0:52:20 | 0:52:25 | |
# Why must she be the one that I have to love so? | 0:52:25 | 0:52:32 | |
# So like Candy | 0:52:32 | 0:52:34 | |
# Here lies a picture of a girl | 0:52:36 | 0:52:40 | |
# Her arms are tight around that lucky guy | 0:52:42 | 0:52:48 | |
# And it's so like Candy | 0:52:48 | 0:52:53 | |
# What did I do to make her go? | 0:52:54 | 0:53:00 | |
# Why must she be the one that I have to love so? | 0:53:00 | 0:53:07 | |
# I remember the day that that picture was taken | 0:53:07 | 0:53:13 | |
# We were so happy then | 0:53:13 | 0:53:16 | |
# But that's so like Candy | 0:53:16 | 0:53:19 | |
# She seemed so sweet to me | 0:53:19 | 0:53:22 | |
# I was mistaken | 0:53:22 | 0:53:24 | |
# Oh, no, not that again | 0:53:24 | 0:53:27 | |
# But that's so like Candy | 0:53:27 | 0:53:30 | |
# She just can't face the day | 0:53:30 | 0:53:35 | |
# So she turns and melts away... # | 0:53:35 | 0:53:41 | |
It frightened people because it was such an aggressive record, lyrically. | 0:53:43 | 0:53:48 | |
And much more aggressive than the first albums. And darker. | 0:53:48 | 0:53:52 | |
And I looked wild because I grew my hair long, I had a beard. | 0:53:52 | 0:53:55 | |
I did it deliberately to make a break with the past | 0:53:55 | 0:54:00 | |
and say I'm not just still the signature guy. | 0:54:00 | 0:54:03 | |
I want to be somebody different. I changed my name, I changed it back. | 0:54:03 | 0:54:07 | |
I did a bunch of things which were just done with a... | 0:54:07 | 0:54:10 | |
just to put a comma in the sentence | 0:54:10 | 0:54:12 | |
but people wanted to read much more psychological stuff into it. | 0:54:12 | 0:54:15 | |
It was nonsense. It was nothing to do with that. I always knew who I was. | 0:54:15 | 0:54:20 | |
# He thought he was the King of America | 0:54:30 | 0:54:35 | |
# Where they pour Coca-Cola just like vintage wine... # | 0:54:35 | 0:54:40 | |
When I first went to America, everything that I saw was a song. | 0:54:40 | 0:54:45 | |
Every road sign, every shop name, every magazine article, | 0:54:45 | 0:54:50 | |
it was like all the words fell away | 0:54:50 | 0:54:52 | |
and just the essential lines of songs, | 0:54:52 | 0:54:56 | |
fragments of things people said, mixed up with some sign | 0:54:56 | 0:55:00 | |
that seemed to symbolise something that maybe only I saw in it, | 0:55:00 | 0:55:04 | |
but it was all so strange and discombobulating, | 0:55:04 | 0:55:07 | |
disorientating, in a good way. | 0:55:07 | 0:55:10 | |
# It was a fine idea at the time | 0:55:10 | 0:55:16 | |
# Now it's a brill- Now it's a brilliant mistake... # | 0:55:16 | 0:55:23 | |
Elvis eventually grew out of his formative relationship with The Attractions. | 0:55:25 | 0:55:28 | |
There was a painful break, although he's worked regularly | 0:55:28 | 0:55:31 | |
with Steve Nieve and Pete Thomas ever since. | 0:55:31 | 0:55:34 | |
He felt a need to reinvent his way of working in a studio. | 0:55:35 | 0:55:39 | |
King of America was the first of a number of collaborations | 0:55:39 | 0:55:43 | |
with musician and producer T-Bone Burnett. | 0:55:43 | 0:55:46 | |
I had the experience of playing with a group of American musicians, | 0:55:46 | 0:55:49 | |
Jim Keltner, Ron Tutt, totally different feel, | 0:55:49 | 0:55:53 | |
a lot of acoustic bass, | 0:55:53 | 0:55:55 | |
the acoustic guitar rather than the electric guitar central, | 0:55:55 | 0:55:58 | |
and a guitar soloist, rather than somebody playing a lot of noise, | 0:55:58 | 0:56:02 | |
and not a big, expansive keyboard player like Steve Nieve, | 0:56:02 | 0:56:06 | |
who could completely dominate a track very easily, | 0:56:06 | 0:56:10 | |
but people who played more discreetly | 0:56:10 | 0:56:12 | |
just in service of the movement of the song. | 0:56:12 | 0:56:14 | |
He wanted to work with some of these other people. | 0:56:14 | 0:56:17 | |
Ray Brown, you know, that was a great chance | 0:56:17 | 0:56:21 | |
to meet and work with Ray Brown, | 0:56:21 | 0:56:23 | |
who is one of the most profound musicians of the last century, | 0:56:23 | 0:56:28 | |
and certainly the most intense, one of the very most intense musicians | 0:56:28 | 0:56:33 | |
I've ever had the great privilege to work with, really, | 0:56:33 | 0:56:38 | |
he was so far out of our league. | 0:56:38 | 0:56:40 | |
# The poisoned rose | 0:56:40 | 0:56:46 | |
# That you wear at your best... # | 0:56:47 | 0:56:53 | |
Ray Brown, just before we did the take of Poisoned Rose, | 0:56:53 | 0:56:59 | |
said, "OK, just don't anybody play any ideas." | 0:56:59 | 0:57:03 | |
And there was that... | 0:57:03 | 0:57:05 | |
There was a dead silence, | 0:57:06 | 0:57:08 | |
and everybody looked at each other | 0:57:08 | 0:57:10 | |
and everybody went, "OK, he's exactly right," | 0:57:10 | 0:57:14 | |
and that was a great challenge, | 0:57:14 | 0:57:16 | |
you know, against the idea of playing licks, or playing... | 0:57:16 | 0:57:19 | |
rather than playing the song, | 0:57:19 | 0:57:21 | |
he was really just focusing everybody on playing the song | 0:57:21 | 0:57:25 | |
and I so appreciated that and, you know, that's...you know... | 0:57:25 | 0:57:31 | |
How about that? Elvis calls up Ray Brown to play, you know. | 0:57:31 | 0:57:35 | |
That was the quality that I was starting to go after, | 0:57:35 | 0:57:39 | |
that not everything had to sound like | 0:57:39 | 0:57:41 | |
it existed within the history of rock and roll. | 0:57:41 | 0:57:44 | |
# This poisoned | 0:57:44 | 0:57:50 | |
# Rose. # | 0:57:50 | 0:57:57 | |
CLASSICAL PIANO MUSIC | 0:57:59 | 0:58:02 | |
I had a period of time where I left one record label | 0:58:07 | 0:58:11 | |
and then I didn't really have a band or anything, | 0:58:11 | 0:58:14 | |
so I wasn't going on the road, just playing shows for the hell of it. | 0:58:14 | 0:58:17 | |
I started going, sometimes five, even six nights a week, to concerts. | 0:58:17 | 0:58:23 | |
I suppose I just wanted something fresh to listen to | 0:58:23 | 0:58:29 | |
and I saw a lot of Alfred Brendel concerts. | 0:58:29 | 0:58:31 | |
I tried to see as many of his... Whenever he played, | 0:58:31 | 0:58:34 | |
I tried to get tickets for everything he did. | 0:58:34 | 0:58:36 | |
I had a very big love of Schubert, late piano sonatas. | 0:58:46 | 0:58:51 | |
I was just interested in late music, for some reason, | 0:58:51 | 0:58:54 | |
I really liked the late Beethoven quartets, | 0:58:54 | 0:58:56 | |
so whenever they were performed, I wanted to hear them. | 0:58:56 | 0:58:58 | |
And then I was really interested in, | 0:58:58 | 0:59:02 | |
you know, period instrument groups, | 0:59:02 | 0:59:06 | |
particularly John Eliot Gardiner and Roger Norrington. | 0:59:06 | 0:59:09 | |
# Summertime withers as | 0:59:20 | 0:59:25 | |
# The sun sets | 0:59:25 | 0:59:28 | |
# He wants to kiss you Will you condescend? | 0:59:28 | 0:59:35 | |
# Before you wake and find a chill within your bones | 0:59:36 | 0:59:44 | |
# Under a fine canopy | 0:59:44 | 0:59:48 | |
# Of lover's dust and humerus bones | 0:59:48 | 0:59:52 | |
# Banish all dismay | 0:59:52 | 0:59:56 | |
# Extinguish every sorrow... # | 0:59:56 | 1:00:01 | |
'It sounds like we're in a very English,' | 1:00:03 | 1:00:06 | |
folk-songy way, but... | 1:00:06 | 1:00:08 | |
And then what does he do? | 1:00:26 | 1:00:27 | |
It's so amazing. | 1:00:36 | 1:00:37 | |
And even to sing it, it's... It must be amazing for a singer. | 1:00:39 | 1:00:42 | |
So, you see, it's the same thing as his lyrics. | 1:00:45 | 1:00:48 | |
You're kind of... You think you're inside something | 1:00:48 | 1:00:52 | |
and then, all of a sudden, you're surprised, | 1:00:52 | 1:00:55 | |
'because he loves to stretch his voice. | 1:00:55 | 1:00:59 | |
'I'm sure that there's something of that. | 1:00:59 | 1:01:02 | |
'When he writes, he's thinking about that.' | 1:01:02 | 1:01:04 | |
# Spare me the lily-white lily | 1:01:05 | 1:01:09 | |
# With the awful perfume of decay | 1:01:09 | 1:01:13 | |
# Banish all dismay | 1:01:13 | 1:01:17 | |
# Extinguish every sorrow | 1:01:17 | 1:01:22 | |
# If I'm lost or I'm forgiven | 1:01:22 | 1:01:26 | |
# The birds will still be singing... # | 1:01:26 | 1:01:31 | |
'I became friends with the Brodsky Quartet' | 1:01:35 | 1:01:37 | |
'in the early '90s and tried to find a way that we could work together | 1:01:37 | 1:01:42 | |
'that wasn't sort of Eleanor Rigby, cos it had already been done so well.' | 1:01:42 | 1:01:45 | |
I didn't want to just have a pop song, even one of that complexity | 1:01:45 | 1:01:49 | |
and beauty. I wanted to try and write something where my voice was | 1:01:49 | 1:01:53 | |
the fifth part of a quintet. | 1:01:53 | 1:01:55 | |
'He could have written the album himself, but to be so generous | 1:01:57 | 1:02:02 | |
'and to welcome us in | 1:02:02 | 1:02:04 | |
'and for all five of us to play a such a huge part,' | 1:02:04 | 1:02:07 | |
you know. Now, of course, with the benefit of hindsight, | 1:02:07 | 1:02:10 | |
that was...that was yet another stroke of genius on his part. | 1:02:10 | 1:02:15 | |
# Thank you for the flowers | 1:02:15 | 1:02:20 | |
# I threw them on the fire | 1:02:20 | 1:02:27 | |
# And I burned the photographs that you had enclosed | 1:02:27 | 1:02:30 | |
# God, they were ugly children | 1:02:30 | 1:02:33 | |
# So, you're that little bastard of that brother of mine | 1:02:33 | 1:02:37 | |
# Trying to trick a poor old woman | 1:02:37 | 1:02:40 | |
# Till I | 1:02:40 | 1:02:41 | |
# Almost had a weakness.... # | 1:02:41 | 1:02:48 | |
'We were able to teach him quite a lot about | 1:02:50 | 1:02:53 | |
'putting his ideas into that structure and he appreciated that.' | 1:02:53 | 1:02:58 | |
During the course of us working together, I think he went from | 1:02:58 | 1:03:01 | |
not being able to notate at all to being able to write in full score - | 1:03:01 | 1:03:05 | |
not just for quartets, but for symphony orchestras. | 1:03:05 | 1:03:08 | |
# Said that he looked like the devil | 1:03:08 | 1:03:10 | |
# Then she said, "Pass the vinegar" | 1:03:10 | 1:03:13 | |
# I'm beginning to think | 1:03:13 | 1:03:15 | |
# That I'm the only one who hasn't taken to the drinking of it | 1:03:15 | 1:03:18 | |
# Though I | 1:03:18 | 1:03:20 | |
# Almost had a weakness... # | 1:03:20 | 1:03:25 | |
'Of course, whenever you do anything | 1:03:31 | 1:03:33 | |
'the slightest bit different, like that, you get people thinking' | 1:03:33 | 1:03:37 | |
the world is ending, but it isn't, it's just some music and, now, | 1:03:37 | 1:03:41 | |
there's four or five recordings of The Juliet Letters by other quartets | 1:03:41 | 1:03:45 | |
and there's somebody did a piano transcription for piano and voice. | 1:03:45 | 1:03:48 | |
I love the fact that it ended up being repertoire. | 1:03:48 | 1:03:52 | |
He's done an enormous amount of collaboration. | 1:03:57 | 1:04:00 | |
McCartney, Lucinda Williams, Roy Orbison, Bacharach - | 1:04:00 | 1:04:03 | |
countless people. | 1:04:03 | 1:04:05 | |
And one of the reasons for that, I think, is that he's no threat. | 1:04:05 | 1:04:09 | |
He looks like the kind of collaborator | 1:04:09 | 1:04:11 | |
that would bring out the best in you, in the same way as | 1:04:11 | 1:04:13 | |
a great director would find your internal performance | 1:04:13 | 1:04:16 | |
that no-one had ever seen. And he doesn't look like he's going to | 1:04:16 | 1:04:20 | |
overshadow you, in terms of publicity. | 1:04:20 | 1:04:22 | |
When the project comes out, he's not necessarily going to be | 1:04:22 | 1:04:25 | |
the one looking for the limelight and milking all the press. | 1:04:25 | 1:04:29 | |
Burt Bacharach's pretty famous, but his songs are even more famous | 1:04:30 | 1:04:34 | |
than he is. You can't really get through a day without hearing | 1:04:34 | 1:04:38 | |
one of his songs somewhere. | 1:04:38 | 1:04:39 | |
People say, "Burt Bacharach - I'm not sure I know his work." | 1:04:39 | 1:04:42 | |
"Yes, you do." And then you reel off five songs. | 1:04:42 | 1:04:45 | |
"He wrote all of those?" "Oh, yeah, and the other 25 | 1:04:45 | 1:04:48 | |
"that you've absorbed along the way." | 1:04:48 | 1:04:49 | |
MUSIC: "Anyone Who Had A Heart" by Cilla Black | 1:04:52 | 1:04:54 | |
# Anyone who ever loved | 1:04:54 | 1:04:55 | |
# Could look at me | 1:04:57 | 1:04:59 | |
# And know that I love you... # | 1:04:59 | 1:05:03 | |
'Most people in England heard Burt Bacharach songs interpreted | 1:05:03 | 1:05:07 | |
'by English pop singers. My dad brought home some of the songs,' | 1:05:07 | 1:05:10 | |
so I perhaps heard them even a little bit more than other people of my age. | 1:05:10 | 1:05:14 | |
# Knowing I love you so | 1:05:14 | 1:05:18 | |
# Anyone who had a heart | 1:05:20 | 1:05:21 | |
# Would take me in his arms | 1:05:21 | 1:05:25 | |
# And love me too, too... # | 1:05:25 | 1:05:28 | |
'Songs like Anyone Who Had A Heart, I can remember that.' | 1:05:28 | 1:05:32 | |
I think that's 1964, so I was ten. | 1:05:32 | 1:05:35 | |
I remember that making me feel peculiar, that song. | 1:05:36 | 1:05:41 | |
# Every time you go away | 1:05:41 | 1:05:44 | |
# I always say | 1:05:44 | 1:05:45 | |
# This time it's goodbye, dear... # | 1:05:46 | 1:05:50 | |
'I mean, it's a really thrilling' | 1:05:50 | 1:05:52 | |
song. It's sort of erotic. The music itself, I now can sense | 1:05:52 | 1:05:57 | |
that it's the music that's created that erotic... | 1:05:57 | 1:06:00 | |
It certainly wasn't Cilla. | 1:06:00 | 1:06:01 | |
Spin that wheel. Spin that big wheel. Round it goes! | 1:06:01 | 1:06:05 | |
Round it goes! | 1:06:05 | 1:06:06 | |
Never one to be shy of collaborating with a great, | 1:06:06 | 1:06:09 | |
Elvis found an opportunity to work with the great American songwriter. | 1:06:09 | 1:06:12 | |
CHEERING | 1:06:12 | 1:06:15 | |
"God, give me strength." | 1:06:15 | 1:06:18 | |
Burt and I were asked to write the big dramatic bow-out | 1:06:21 | 1:06:25 | |
for the movie called Grace Of My Heart, by Allison Anders, | 1:06:25 | 1:06:29 | |
which was God Give Me Strength. | 1:06:29 | 1:06:31 | |
# Now I have nothing | 1:06:32 | 1:06:35 | |
# So God give me strength... # | 1:06:35 | 1:06:41 | |
'I actually sketched out a verse and chorus' | 1:06:41 | 1:06:44 | |
which, when I think of it now, was crazy. | 1:06:44 | 1:06:48 | |
I mean, I wrote both the words and music | 1:06:48 | 1:06:51 | |
'of the song and sent it to him. | 1:06:51 | 1:06:54 | |
'And instead of saying,' | 1:06:55 | 1:06:56 | |
"Hold on a second - you're the lyricist, I'm the melodist," | 1:06:56 | 1:07:01 | |
he just sent me back a piece of sheet music with all of the suggestions | 1:07:01 | 1:07:05 | |
that he had. He was just so open. | 1:07:05 | 1:07:07 | |
'He'd stretched out some phrases and instead of it being over two bars, | 1:07:09 | 1:07:14 | |
'it was suddenly over four,' | 1:07:14 | 1:07:15 | |
or three, even, you know. There were just subtle little changes | 1:07:15 | 1:07:18 | |
in the harmony that made it more memorable and less predictable. | 1:07:18 | 1:07:23 | |
# She was the light that I'd bless... # | 1:07:23 | 1:07:29 | |
'I worked on that' | 1:07:29 | 1:07:30 | |
'and I was then able to write the second verse lyrics | 1:07:30 | 1:07:33 | |
'and then we realised that the song was going around twice, but needed | 1:07:33 | 1:07:37 | |
'to release from that shape. It was getting to be this big song.' | 1:07:37 | 1:07:40 | |
And he wrote this bridge, which was just extraordinary. | 1:07:42 | 1:07:46 | |
Incredibly difficult to sing. | 1:07:46 | 1:07:47 | |
# She'd grant me her indulgence and decline | 1:07:47 | 1:07:53 | |
# I might as well wipe her from my memory | 1:07:53 | 1:08:00 | |
# Fracture the spell As she becomes my enemy | 1:08:02 | 1:08:09 | |
# Maybe I was washed out | 1:08:11 | 1:08:13 | |
# Like a lip-print on his shirt | 1:08:13 | 1:08:17 | |
# See, I'm only human | 1:08:17 | 1:08:21 | |
# I want him to hurt | 1:08:21 | 1:08:27 | |
# I want him | 1:08:28 | 1:08:30 | |
# I want him to hurt... # | 1:08:32 | 1:08:35 | |
APPLAUSE | 1:08:38 | 1:08:40 | |
'You know, I had never paid any attention | 1:08:41 | 1:08:43 | |
'to these awards-type things. He was of that world. | 1:08:43 | 1:08:46 | |
'This is a guy who's won an Oscar, you know. | 1:08:46 | 1:08:48 | |
'It's like, it sort of... I could see it mattered to him, | 1:08:48 | 1:08:51 | |
'to be in the race, you know.' | 1:08:51 | 1:08:53 | |
Of course, we didn't win, but we did, you know, | 1:08:53 | 1:08:55 | |
we were up against Natalie Cole and her father singing together, | 1:08:55 | 1:08:59 | |
so that was pretty tough to beat. | 1:08:59 | 1:09:01 | |
But it was great, you know. | 1:09:01 | 1:09:03 | |
To go to the awards with Burt was something. | 1:09:03 | 1:09:05 | |
We did eventually win one together a few years later | 1:09:05 | 1:09:09 | |
after we did the album, you know. | 1:09:09 | 1:09:11 | |
'You know, the Ryman is considered the mother church of country music. | 1:09:19 | 1:09:23 | |
'Of course, it has amazing history. | 1:09:23 | 1:09:25 | |
'And it's very special to do just the regular Opry, you know, | 1:09:25 | 1:09:29 | |
'the Friday and Saturday nights.' | 1:09:29 | 1:09:31 | |
But to be able to do a special Opry with Elvis and Dave and Gill, | 1:09:31 | 1:09:35 | |
that was... | 1:09:35 | 1:09:36 | |
That's something I am very proud of. | 1:09:36 | 1:09:39 | |
# I thought I heard a black bell toll | 1:09:39 | 1:09:44 | |
# A little bird did sing | 1:09:44 | 1:09:49 | |
# Man has no choice | 1:09:49 | 1:09:52 | |
# When he wants everything | 1:09:52 | 1:09:57 | |
# We rise above the scarlet tide | 1:09:59 | 1:10:05 | |
# That trickles down through the mountain | 1:10:05 | 1:10:10 | |
# And separates the widow from the bride... # | 1:10:10 | 1:10:18 | |
'It's one of the best sounding venues around. | 1:10:20 | 1:10:22 | |
'And just like an old guitar, it just sort of gets mellowed with | 1:10:22 | 1:10:25 | |
'all the music that it has absorbed over the years. | 1:10:25 | 1:10:29 | |
'And I think his choice of Dave and Gill was really special, | 1:10:29 | 1:10:33 | |
'because they kind of embody that too, that sense of, | 1:10:33 | 1:10:36 | |
"Let's bring a little bit of the history along with us." | 1:10:36 | 1:10:39 | |
# I thought I heard a black bell toll | 1:10:39 | 1:10:45 | |
# Up in the highest dome | 1:10:45 | 1:10:50 | |
# Admit you lied | 1:10:50 | 1:10:53 | |
# And bring the boys back home | 1:10:53 | 1:10:59 | |
# We rise above the scarlet tide | 1:11:01 | 1:11:07 | |
# That trickles down through the mountain | 1:11:07 | 1:11:13 | |
# And separates the widow from the bride. # | 1:11:13 | 1:11:23 | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 1:11:35 | 1:11:37 | |
Thank you, everyone. Thank you so much. | 1:11:40 | 1:11:42 | |
In 2003, Elvis married the jazz pianist and vocalist Diana Krall. | 1:11:51 | 1:11:56 | |
They now have twin sons. | 1:11:56 | 1:11:57 | |
# These few lines | 1:11:59 | 1:12:02 | |
# I'll devote | 1:12:02 | 1:12:04 | |
# To a marvellous girl | 1:12:04 | 1:12:07 | |
# Covered up in my coat | 1:12:07 | 1:12:11 | |
# Pull it | 1:12:11 | 1:12:14 | |
# Up to your chin... # | 1:12:14 | 1:12:16 | |
The whole record, North, | 1:12:16 | 1:12:17 | |
was triggered by a transition in my life and meeting Diana. | 1:12:17 | 1:12:21 | |
But it wasn't a literal recitation of everything that happened. | 1:12:21 | 1:12:25 | |
It was trying to capture the confusion of recognising | 1:12:25 | 1:12:28 | |
that you've come to the end of a way of living, | 1:12:28 | 1:12:30 | |
to the light coming into the room. | 1:12:30 | 1:12:32 | |
# Now you speak my name | 1:12:32 | 1:12:34 | |
# And set my pulse to race | 1:12:34 | 1:12:38 | |
# Sometimes words may tumble out | 1:12:38 | 1:12:40 | |
# But can't eclipse | 1:12:40 | 1:12:44 | |
# The feeling when you press your face | 1:12:44 | 1:12:47 | |
# To my lips | 1:12:47 | 1:12:50 | |
# I want to kiss you in a rush | 1:12:50 | 1:12:52 | |
# And whisper things To make you blush | 1:12:52 | 1:12:56 | |
# And you say, darling, hush | 1:12:56 | 1:12:59 | |
# Hush... # | 1:12:59 | 1:13:00 | |
# Picture a little love-nest | 1:13:07 | 1:13:12 | |
# Down where the roses cling | 1:13:13 | 1:13:17 | |
# Picture the same sweet love nest | 1:13:20 | 1:13:24 | |
# Think what a year can bring | 1:13:26 | 1:13:32 | |
# He's washing dishes... # | 1:13:32 | 1:13:34 | |
That's for sure. | 1:13:34 | 1:13:35 | |
# And baby clothes... # | 1:13:35 | 1:13:37 | |
That's for damn sure! | 1:13:37 | 1:13:39 | |
# He's so ambitious | 1:13:39 | 1:13:42 | |
# He even sews | 1:13:42 | 1:13:45 | |
# But don't forget, folks | 1:13:45 | 1:13:47 | |
# That's what you get, folks | 1:13:49 | 1:13:52 | |
# For makin' | 1:13:52 | 1:13:54 | |
# Whoopee... # | 1:13:54 | 1:13:58 | |
Allen Toussaint, one of the giants of New Orleans music, | 1:14:33 | 1:14:36 | |
lost his house and recording studio to Hurricane Katrina. | 1:14:36 | 1:14:40 | |
Elvis, a long-time fan, | 1:14:40 | 1:14:42 | |
enticed him back to the disaster-stricken city | 1:14:42 | 1:14:45 | |
well before the curfew had been lifted. | 1:14:45 | 1:14:48 | |
So, prey tell, prey tell. | 1:14:48 | 1:14:50 | |
# Prey tell What's going to happen to us? | 1:14:50 | 1:14:53 | |
# It's going to happen further... # | 1:14:53 | 1:14:56 | |
'Doing a whole album was Elvis' idea | 1:14:58 | 1:15:00 | |
'and he said he had always considered doing | 1:15:00 | 1:15:03 | |
'an Allen Toussaint songbook album. | 1:15:03 | 1:15:06 | |
'And, after Katrina, there we were in the same place at the same time. | 1:15:06 | 1:15:10 | |
'So, how about it?' | 1:15:11 | 1:15:13 | |
And I pondered over that for every bit of two seconds and said, | 1:15:13 | 1:15:17 | |
"That's a great idea and we've got to work on it." | 1:15:17 | 1:15:21 | |
And he resurrected some songs that I thought | 1:15:21 | 1:15:24 | |
would be laid to rest for ever. | 1:15:24 | 1:15:26 | |
But they were so applicable to the times. | 1:15:26 | 1:15:29 | |
And... | 1:15:29 | 1:15:31 | |
..it gave them such a new vigour... | 1:15:32 | 1:15:34 | |
..and it gave me a new sense of respect for some things | 1:15:35 | 1:15:39 | |
that I had laid to rest, thinking that there was no more life in them. | 1:15:39 | 1:15:42 | |
# We may seem happy | 1:15:43 | 1:15:45 | |
# Like everything's all right | 1:15:47 | 1:15:49 | |
# But from the outside lookin' in | 1:15:49 | 1:15:52 | |
# Everything's uptight | 1:15:53 | 1:15:56 | |
# But deep down inside | 1:15:57 | 1:15:59 | |
# We're covering up the pain | 1:16:00 | 1:16:03 | |
# It's an old thing | 1:16:03 | 1:16:05 | |
# It's a soul thing | 1:16:05 | 1:16:06 | |
# But it's a real thing | 1:16:06 | 1:16:08 | |
# Prey tell What's gonna happen, brother? | 1:16:10 | 1:16:13 | |
# Who's gonna help him get further? | 1:16:14 | 1:16:17 | |
# One another | 1:16:17 | 1:16:18 | |
# One another | 1:16:20 | 1:16:21 | |
# There's a old dude... # | 1:16:23 | 1:16:25 | |
He's not like a guy who just goes, "It's our side or your side." | 1:16:25 | 1:16:29 | |
He's a human person and I really learnt a lot from working with him | 1:16:29 | 1:16:33 | |
and the way he tempered his... | 1:16:33 | 1:16:36 | |
The anger he must have felt. | 1:16:36 | 1:16:38 | |
'He seemed to rise above his stoicism | 1:16:38 | 1:16:40 | |
'in the face of losing everything.' | 1:16:40 | 1:16:43 | |
He really put across, in a good-humoured way, the inequality. | 1:16:43 | 1:16:48 | |
There was never any pity in the songs. | 1:16:48 | 1:16:51 | |
# Mama, get up early | 1:16:51 | 1:16:52 | |
# Early in the morning | 1:16:52 | 1:16:54 | |
# Papa's already gone | 1:16:54 | 1:16:56 | |
# Gone and gone and gone | 1:16:56 | 1:16:58 | |
# Goin' out to work For half of what he's worth now | 1:16:58 | 1:17:01 | |
# You know that's so wrong | 1:17:01 | 1:17:04 | |
# What happened to the liberty bell | 1:17:04 | 1:17:06 | |
# I heard so much about? | 1:17:08 | 1:17:10 | |
# Did it really ding-dong? | 1:17:10 | 1:17:12 | |
# Ding-dong | 1:17:12 | 1:17:14 | |
# It must have dinged wrong | 1:17:14 | 1:17:15 | |
# It didn't ding long... # | 1:17:15 | 1:17:18 | |
'I got to know that he cares | 1:17:18 | 1:17:20 | |
'so dearly about the music beyond the glazed tops.' | 1:17:20 | 1:17:25 | |
But he cares all the in-betweens... | 1:17:25 | 1:17:27 | |
I always referred to him that he not only paid attention | 1:17:29 | 1:17:33 | |
to the A-sides but the B-sides, | 1:17:33 | 1:17:35 | |
the D-sides, | 1:17:35 | 1:17:36 | |
the F-sides, the Z-sides. | 1:17:36 | 1:17:39 | |
He's truly gifted. | 1:17:39 | 1:17:41 | |
And his gifts were given to the right person | 1:17:41 | 1:17:43 | |
because he shared them so freely. | 1:17:43 | 1:17:45 | |
UKULELE CHORDS STRUM | 1:18:11 | 1:18:14 | |
'I used to hum things to myself until I could memorise them. | 1:18:20 | 1:18:24 | |
'Then Walkmen, you know, cassette Walkmen | 1:18:24 | 1:18:27 | |
'with mics in them came in. | 1:18:27 | 1:18:29 | |
'And they were a boon to songwriters. | 1:18:29 | 1:18:31 | |
'Anything where you could easily hit two buttons and play the guitar, | 1:18:31 | 1:18:35 | |
'catch a sketch of a song, meant that it didn't get away.' | 1:18:35 | 1:18:39 | |
Now we've come to the situation where these devices | 1:18:39 | 1:18:42 | |
we carry in our pocket, they all have memo functions on them, | 1:18:42 | 1:18:44 | |
so I don't need a Dictaphone any more. | 1:18:44 | 1:18:46 | |
This has got at least two or three ways to capture sound. | 1:18:46 | 1:18:50 | |
It really just mimics what you see here. | 1:18:50 | 1:18:53 | |
It mimics some of the functions of a recording studio, | 1:18:53 | 1:18:56 | |
but it is just in your hand-held device or this little tablet device, | 1:18:56 | 1:18:59 | |
so I locked myself in the bathroom with this, | 1:18:59 | 1:19:02 | |
this little gadget, which has a version of this programme on it, | 1:19:02 | 1:19:07 | |
that you wouldn't believe. And I'm singing into it like this. | 1:19:07 | 1:19:10 | |
It's like I used to do when I got my Dictaphones, | 1:19:10 | 1:19:13 | |
except now I can actually play on the face of this thing. | 1:19:13 | 1:19:19 | |
You just press button chords | 1:19:19 | 1:19:20 | |
and I will show you in a second something really funny. | 1:19:20 | 1:19:23 | |
And I'm singing and there is this little bit of a song that | 1:19:23 | 1:19:26 | |
I had just written on the way to the airport. | 1:19:26 | 1:19:29 | |
# The moon is high | 1:19:29 | 1:19:32 | |
# And it's not the only one | 1:19:32 | 1:19:35 | |
# I'm a lone wolf and I'm prowling...# | 1:19:35 | 1:19:41 | |
These new gadgets, | 1:19:42 | 1:19:44 | |
I still don't really care for computerised sound or digital sound. | 1:19:44 | 1:19:48 | |
I'm pretty much an advocate of analogue recording and I prefer | 1:19:48 | 1:19:54 | |
to listen to music from vinyl or shellac than I do from CD or MP3. | 1:19:54 | 1:19:59 | |
The flip side of that is you've got the ability to catch things | 1:19:59 | 1:20:03 | |
in the moment effortlessly. | 1:20:03 | 1:20:06 | |
# And the moon is high... # | 1:20:06 | 1:20:12 | |
That's the wolf howling at the moon! | 1:20:17 | 1:20:20 | |
So, you know, it's an instant Egyptian string section. | 1:20:28 | 1:20:32 | |
I think there's another one that I did of a Jesse Winchester record. | 1:20:34 | 1:20:37 | |
GUITAR INTRO | 1:20:41 | 1:20:42 | |
# Be of good cheer... # | 1:20:52 | 1:20:56 | |
Jesse was really sick and had oesophageal cancer | 1:20:56 | 1:20:59 | |
and the record was a sort of "get well card" from a lot of people. | 1:20:59 | 1:21:03 | |
He has recovered now. | 1:21:03 | 1:21:05 | |
He has written some of the best songs of the last 40 years. | 1:21:05 | 1:21:08 | |
A lot of people don't even know his name. It's just crazy. | 1:21:08 | 1:21:12 | |
It's a song about dread, about mortality, | 1:21:13 | 1:21:16 | |
and being lonely in the face of that. | 1:21:16 | 1:21:18 | |
He obviously, in the song, has faith which is sustaining. | 1:21:18 | 1:21:22 | |
# Call it my fear | 1:21:23 | 1:21:26 | |
# That I will die alone | 1:21:29 | 1:21:33 | |
# And even He won't be there... # | 1:21:33 | 1:21:37 | |
I was in New York, I got the request and my wife had bought me a ukulele | 1:21:40 | 1:21:44 | |
for my birthday, that's what you hear. | 1:21:44 | 1:21:46 | |
I just started playing it and I thought, | 1:21:46 | 1:21:48 | |
"Well, that really is a different way to think of that song." | 1:21:48 | 1:21:50 | |
Cos I had this gadget, I just had to then go | 1:21:50 | 1:21:53 | |
and sketch the other parts, and by the time I went back to Vancouver, | 1:21:53 | 1:21:56 | |
I had the whole arrangement. | 1:21:56 | 1:21:57 | |
Then I went to the studio and transferred it over... | 1:21:57 | 1:22:00 | |
into tape. | 1:22:00 | 1:22:02 | |
The day that I went into... that I was going in to record it, | 1:22:04 | 1:22:07 | |
I heard that my father was dying. | 1:22:07 | 1:22:09 | |
And I couldn't think of anything better to do | 1:22:09 | 1:22:12 | |
than go and finish the record. | 1:22:12 | 1:22:13 | |
Cos I knew if I stayed home, I would... | 1:22:13 | 1:22:16 | |
I was thousands of miles away and... | 1:22:16 | 1:22:18 | |
..I thought this is the best thing to do, this is what I'm built to do. | 1:22:20 | 1:22:23 | |
I went in and I recorded it. | 1:22:23 | 1:22:25 | |
So, the fact that I could capture the initial performance... | 1:22:26 | 1:22:29 | |
So, sort of like, just when I felt the mood of the song... | 1:22:31 | 1:22:36 | |
And then ended up using the... | 1:22:36 | 1:22:38 | |
maximum amount of technology to do the simplest of things - | 1:22:38 | 1:22:41 | |
it was just to play these few decorative parts on the record | 1:22:41 | 1:22:45 | |
on a day that meant so much | 1:22:45 | 1:22:47 | |
that opened up a door to another way of living. | 1:22:47 | 1:22:50 | |
That I would be the senior member of my family | 1:22:51 | 1:22:54 | |
and I'd have to watch my dad be... | 1:22:54 | 1:22:56 | |
You know, his humour and... | 1:22:58 | 1:23:01 | |
dignity be erased by illness. | 1:23:01 | 1:23:03 | |
Makes... Means... | 1:23:04 | 1:23:05 | |
Makes it very... | 1:23:08 | 1:23:09 | |
Makes it worthwhile. | 1:23:11 | 1:23:12 | |
# When I feel this way | 1:23:15 | 1:23:18 | |
# I thirst and I want to shout | 1:23:21 | 1:23:25 | |
# Trust me, Lord | 1:23:28 | 1:23:31 | |
# To be | 1:23:32 | 1:23:34 | |
# Quiet about it... # | 1:23:34 | 1:23:37 | |
# Romeo was restless He was ready to kill | 1:23:58 | 1:24:01 | |
# He jumped out the window Cos he couldn't sit still | 1:24:01 | 1:24:04 | |
# Juliet was waiting with a safety net | 1:24:04 | 1:24:08 | |
# He said don't bury me Cos I'm not dead yet... # | 1:24:08 | 1:24:13 | |
'The experience of being in pop music for five minutes | 1:24:13 | 1:24:15 | |
'now seems kind of ludicrous.' | 1:24:15 | 1:24:18 | |
But some songs really came out of that, that I'm... | 1:24:18 | 1:24:23 | |
I'm still singing and I'm not singing them for nostalgic reasons. | 1:24:23 | 1:24:26 | |
I still feel something for them | 1:24:26 | 1:24:28 | |
and people seem to want to hear them, so that's a great thing. | 1:24:28 | 1:24:31 | |
'And it carries you through to the next foundation | 1:24:31 | 1:24:33 | |
'on which you can do other things. | 1:24:33 | 1:24:34 | |
'It's not like I'll get those out of the way | 1:24:34 | 1:24:36 | |
'and then I'll play the ones I really care about.' | 1:24:36 | 1:24:38 | |
I care about all of them, otherwise I wouldn't be singing them. | 1:24:38 | 1:24:41 | |
# Well, I remember when the lights went out | 1:24:41 | 1:24:43 | |
# And I was trying to make it look like it was never in doubt | 1:24:43 | 1:24:46 | |
# She thought that I knew | 1:24:46 | 1:24:48 | |
# And I thought that she knew | 1:24:48 | 1:24:50 | |
# So both of us were willing But we didn't know how to do it | 1:24:51 | 1:24:55 | |
# Why don't you tell me about the mystery dance? | 1:24:55 | 1:24:59 | |
# I want to know about the mystery dance | 1:24:59 | 1:25:02 | |
# Why don't you show me Cos I've tried and I've tried | 1:25:02 | 1:25:05 | |
# And I'm still mystified | 1:25:05 | 1:25:08 | |
# I can't do it any more | 1:25:08 | 1:25:09 | |
# And I'm not satisfied | 1:25:09 | 1:25:11 | |
# I can't do it any more | 1:25:11 | 1:25:12 | |
# And I'm not satisfied | 1:25:12 | 1:25:14 | |
# Do it any more And I'm not satisfied. # | 1:25:14 | 1:25:17 | |
The Sugarcanes! | 1:25:29 | 1:25:30 | |
TRIP HOP MUSIC | 1:25:43 | 1:25:46 | |
I'm not about wasting any more time doing anything foolish. | 1:26:00 | 1:26:04 | |
I'm not going to go and do some press junket because a record comes out. | 1:26:04 | 1:26:08 | |
Cos I've said everything I'm going to say. | 1:26:08 | 1:26:10 | |
I've explained the story of my life | 1:26:10 | 1:26:11 | |
about 800 times to some journalist who read about it on the internet. | 1:26:11 | 1:26:14 | |
It's just not that interesting to have that conversation. | 1:26:14 | 1:26:17 | |
It's not that interesting to read. | 1:26:17 | 1:26:18 | |
People will make up their own version of the truth anyway - | 1:26:18 | 1:26:21 | |
what does it matter what I say? And they're not going to believe me, | 1:26:21 | 1:26:24 | |
if I told them the truth they wouldn't believe me. | 1:26:24 | 1:26:26 | |
It's all really been much more wonderful | 1:26:26 | 1:26:29 | |
and much more than I ever deserved. | 1:26:29 | 1:26:32 | |
They don't believe that either. | 1:26:32 | 1:26:34 | |
They think I'm being grandiose about it or whatever. | 1:26:34 | 1:26:37 | |
I just can't believe half the stuff that's happened to me | 1:26:37 | 1:26:39 | |
when I think of it. | 1:26:39 | 1:26:41 | |
I was on the stage once with Count Basie. | 1:26:41 | 1:26:43 | |
I didn't sing very well | 1:26:43 | 1:26:44 | |
but I actually did sing with him on one occasion on a TV show. | 1:26:44 | 1:26:46 | |
Just the fact that I actually stood next to him is extraordinary to me. | 1:26:46 | 1:26:50 | |
So, I mean... | 1:26:50 | 1:26:52 | |
I've been fortunate to have T-Bone as a good friend, | 1:26:52 | 1:26:55 | |
because in his company I've met | 1:26:55 | 1:26:56 | |
Jerry Lee Lewis, Willie Dixon, Kris Kristofferson, all these | 1:26:56 | 1:27:02 | |
terrific people who have given much more to the world than I'll ever do. | 1:27:02 | 1:27:05 | |
I just want to raise my sons with a bit more presence | 1:27:07 | 1:27:11 | |
and go and play shows when it's time to make some money | 1:27:11 | 1:27:14 | |
and have a good time. | 1:27:14 | 1:27:15 | |
And that's it. | 1:27:17 | 1:27:19 | |
That's the end of it. | 1:27:21 | 1:27:23 | |
# I stood at the kerb | 1:27:28 | 1:27:31 | |
# Trying not to disturb | 1:27:31 | 1:27:33 | |
# The dark carnival crew | 1:27:33 | 1:27:37 | |
# And a glittering voice | 1:27:39 | 1:27:42 | |
# Far off there said, "Rejoice | 1:27:42 | 1:27:44 | |
# "As the casualties | 1:27:44 | 1:27:47 | |
# "Are but few" | 1:27:47 | 1:27:48 | |
# Going to tell you now | 1:27:50 | 1:27:53 | |
# Before I forget myself | 1:27:53 | 1:27:56 | |
# I could let you loose | 1:27:56 | 1:27:59 | |
# But the key won't undo the lock | 1:27:59 | 1:28:02 | |
# And the face of the clock | 1:28:02 | 1:28:04 | |
# Seemed to merrily mock | 1:28:04 | 1:28:06 | |
# These five minutes with you... # | 1:28:06 | 1:28:13 | |
Subtitles by Red Bee Media Ltd | 1:28:16 | 1:28:19 |