Lou Reed Remembered


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# It was good what we did yesterday

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# And I'd do it once again

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# The fact that you are married

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# Only proves you're my best friend

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# But it truly, truly is sin

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# Linger on

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# Your pale blue eyes

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# Linger on

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# Your pale blue eyes. #

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During a career lasting over five decades,

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Lou Reed transformed rock music.

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With his band, The Velvet Underground,

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he never achieved commercial success,

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but virtually invented the alternative rock scene.

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A solo artist, he never lost sight of his desire to disturb,

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shock and thrill.

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# What goes on in your mind?

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# I think that I am falling down... #

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Tonight, friends, colleagues, and fans remember him.

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Guitarist Lenny Kaye, who became part of the Patti Smith band,

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was one of the countless musicians inspired by the Velvet Underground

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during their now legendary summer-long residency

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at Max's Kansas City in 1970, shortly before Lou left.

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Lou really had this romantic streak.

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He told me about a song by a group called Alicia & the Rockaways that

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was very close to him when he was growing up on Long Island,

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and over the next three years,

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I made it my point to search it out and find it for him.

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# Why can't I be loved?

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# Why doesn't someone take me?

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# If I've been asleep

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# Won't someone please come in and wake me? #

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Lou loved pop music, that was what his root was, in a sense.

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He loved a beautiful, simple lyric, a heartfelt emotion.

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He could push the limits of what was possible within rock'n'roll,

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sexually and pharmacologically, and sensually.

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But you could always feel his beating heart underneath that.

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His songs are so, so beautiful, you know?

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I'm Set Free and Pale Blue Eyes, I mean...

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these are songs that come from not something that wishes

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to confront, but something that wishes to heal.

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Lou could be very prismatic.

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He liked creating alter egos to reflect different

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sides of his personality. Lisa says, you know, Jenny says.

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And yet, they were all resolutely him.

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# Candy says...

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# Caroline says that I'm just a toy...

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# Lisa says...

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-# Stephanie says

-Stephanie says

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# When answering the phone...

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# Caroline says

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# As she gets up off the floor... #

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His solo career is really... It just keeps moving back and forth.

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# Last great American whale

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# Last great American whale... #

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And then, you know, in the glorious late '80s and '90s

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when he started doing those beautiful song cycles about his environment

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and his past in New York.

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# Last great American whale

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# Well, Americans don't care very much for anything

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# Land and water the least

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# Animal life is low on the totem pole

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# And human life is not worth much more than infected yeast

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# Well, Americans don't care too much for beauty

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# They'll shit in a river and dump battery acid in a stream

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# They'll watch dead rats wash up on the beaches

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# Complain if they can't swim... #

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His meditation with John Cale on Drella, Andy Warhol.

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He's getting more reflective.

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You could feel his questing mind.

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# There's only one good thing about a small town

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# There's only one good use for a small town

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# There's only one good thing about a small town

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# You know that you want to get out

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# When you're growing up in a small town, you know

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# You'll grow down in a small town

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# There's only one good use for a small town

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# You hate it, and you know you'll have to leave. #

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I think Lou understood that, as Lou Reed,

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he had a certain sense of power.

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But, at the end of the day, you've got to come home, close the door

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and live with your creation, your Frankenstein creation.

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I'll be your mirror, reflect what you are in case you don't know.

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You look at his work and what you're seeing as the Lou Reed

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you are seeing was really yourself.

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Writer Victor Bockris worked for Andy Warhol's Interview magazine

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in the early '70s

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and went on to write books on The Velvet Underground,

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William Burroughs, Warhol himself, and John Cale.

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His first Lou Reed biography, Transformer, was published in 1995.

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I'll get back to you in a few minutes

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and let you know what else is going on.

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He's a poet, he was inspired by poets.

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He comes out of poetry, he comes out of Baudelaire and Poe

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and all that - Rimbaud.

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He saw that rock'n'roll was a totally adolescent musical form

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at that time.

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It was really written for adolescence and sold to adolescence and so on.

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And he made a conscious decision -

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how about making rock'n'roll for adults?

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Which is sort of like writing a more complex,

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existentialist novel, as opposed to an adventure story for kids.

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And so therefore, when you write War And Peace or whatever,

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of course there are great ecstasies and there are great depths.

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He really studied very hard the short story form,

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Raymond Chandler particularly, to see how to translate that into song

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lyrics, where you tell a story in a song, even though it's fragmented.

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Because Lou originally wanted to be a writer.

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When he went to college, he was a writer,

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he was writing short stories and things in college magazines.

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He actually published his own magazine.

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And when he had the electric shock treatments, he couldn't remember.

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He'd read something, and he couldn't remember what he'd read.

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He'd open a book and didn't know where he was,

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because it takes away your short-term memory for while, for a week.

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Plus, you have to remember his parents made him do this

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to cure him of homosexuality.

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Can you imagine your parents... They took him there without telling him.

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They said, we're going to go to see a doctor. OK.

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You get there, and you're going to have shock treatments then and there.

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That is such an incredible betrayal.

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I think the betrayal of the parents, particularly the mother,

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was as shocking as the actual treatments themselves, you know?

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In terms of his whole psyche.

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Bob Quine told me,

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he said that all the time he hung out with Lou for a few years,

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one time - he only saw Lou frightened once.

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That was when they were walking up the street

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and they bumped into his parents.

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Lou particularly was into amphetamines.

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His mind was full of images from his life, from his experiences,

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from literature and so one, and he's pouring it out.

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I don't think amphetamines or any drugs shape those images.

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These people were working very hard,

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these were very serious people doing something very serious.

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They weren't taking drugs just for fun. We all took drugs to work.

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That was the whole idea of drugs, originally.

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I think Lou had a wonderful, wonderful life.

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I think he loved all of it. He lived life...

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He said, "My week beats your year."

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I think he's absolutely correct.

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He experienced things and he really went into the depths of them

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and the heights of them.

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That's why I think we should celebrate Lou Reed,

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because he was one of those great explorers who went seeking

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and brought back the goods, he kept giving us music.

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It's very thrilling music, it's enthralling music, it's music that

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changes your life, music you keep in your heart and you don't forget.

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It becomes part of you. That's a great achievement, you know?

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That's why I love Lou Reed, and that's why I love his music.

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Actor Mary Woronov was one of the Warhol crowd

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in the heyday of the Silver Factory.

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She first met Lou and The Velvet Underground there in 1966,

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when Andy was both their mentor and manager.

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The factory was silver wallpaper, black floors,

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silver couch full of come stains.

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It was very grim.

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The Velvets - first of all, they're dressed entirely in black.

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They're very strange looking.

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They seem to know what they're doing

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and completely never acknowledge any audience.

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They were using feedback,

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they were using this stuff that you couldn't call music.

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# Seasick Sarah had a golden nose

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# Hobnail boots wrapped round her toes... #

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I heard later on that they were going to play at this happening -

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they called them happenings then.

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Someone started dancing and then I started dancing

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and then other people sort of started to dance,

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but the music was so strange, it didn't have a beat or whatever.

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It had a strange beat, a strange, I don't know,

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echoey... It was just awesome, I'd never heard anything like it before.

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People were leaving in droves.

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The Velvets did not care, did not stop playing.

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They started playing Heroin, and this guy runs up

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and throws his works down on the floor and starts to shoot up.

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Well, the cops came. It was awful.

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We were always having these major horror stories.

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Nothing ever went right.

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Heroin was New York's answer to LA's The Doors' This Is The End.

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That's how powerful it was.

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And it was the answer,

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because they were all running around like hippies

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and we were in black and white.

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You know, they liked free love, we liked S&M.

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# Heroin

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# It's my wife and it's my life

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# Because a mainer to my vein

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# Leads to a centre in my head

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# And then I'm better off than dead... #

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Lou loved the transvestites, he loved the absurd humour.

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He loved the nightlife and the kinkiness of it. He just loved it.

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He was not interested in entertaining jack shit, he was interested

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in these bizarre things like Venus In Furs or like, you know, Heroin.

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And so he wrote about what interested him.

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It was just really entertaining and it was sexy and hot.

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And... You know, if you were high enough,

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I guess you could spend the whole night flirting with it.

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Also, Lou used to go, he would go all night also, and then call a cab

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and that would be that.

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And I would take the subway back to Brooklyn Heights

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cos I was still living with my parents, so there was one night when

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Lou couldn't get a cab, and he had to come with me to my parents' house.

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# Sunday morning

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# It's just the wasted years so close behind... #

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I put him on the couch and I went to my little room, you know, and

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then I heard my mother saying, "You have to get up, you have to get up."

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So I get up and I walk out,

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and there's my father at the breakfast table,

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and my mother is standing over the breakfast table, and there is Lou,

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having conversation with them in his leather jacket, you know, like this.

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And I sat down, you know, "Hi, Mom, hi, Dad.

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"Are you going to work yet so Lou can get some more sleep?"

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I don't know what to say to them.

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But it was stuff like that,

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everybody sort of didn't plan anything,

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or didn't have anything in mind.

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Things just happened.

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I think the real difference - besides the kind of music we played,

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which was a big difference - we were there with Andy Warhol.

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And all the attitudes that brought with it.

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And all the talent

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and incredible creative force that went along with Warhol.

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The nice thing about being with Andy is it made me brave.

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Being mean to us or dismissing us didn't mean anything,

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no-one ever heard of us to dismiss us, so they would go after Andy.

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When we were going to record, he pulled me aside.

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His advice to me, he said, "Everything is really great,

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"make sure you keep the dirty words in."

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That was it.

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He meant, keep it rough.

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Don't let them turn it into this...

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This thing anyone else could do.

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Don't let them tame it down, don't let them make it

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so it doesn't disturb anyone. Andy wanted to disturb people.

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And shake it up. So did we.

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Harvard graduate Andrew Wylie met Lou in 1972 in Max's Kansas City,

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where the Velvets had played regularly

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and where the Warhol crowd were still hanging out in the back room.

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It was an achievement to get into the back room.

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Usually, you would be hounded out if you didn't pass the depravity test.

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What's the depravity test?!

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You had to be fairly oblivious to odd behaviour.

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-You couldn't be too straight.

-You got through, obviously, anyway.

-Yup.

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He had I think Swastikas dyed on the side of his head,

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and he was fairly lean, I would say.

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He was dramatically interesting.

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Well, I think if you grow up in a middle-class setting -

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as he did - and you don't embrace it -

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and he didn't -

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then you can either head uptown or head downtown.

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And he headed downtown.

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# I'm waiting for my man

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# 26 in my hand... #

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Forgive me, but it's interesting on the wild side.

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# Up to Lexington 125... #

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Everyone assumes it's just about depravity, but it's not.

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It's interesting.

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Lou was particularly verbal.

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The most intelligent, verbally speaking,

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person I've met in rock'n'roll by miles.

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So I don't think he cared that

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other groups were more successful at all, actually.

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I think he knew how good he was.

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The most important thing about Lou is the writing.

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Lou's lyrics are really, really interesting to read,

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absent the music.

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He is comparable to Francois Villon.

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He's as good as they get on the page.

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This room costs 2,000 a month, you can believe it, baby, it's true.

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Somewhere there is a landlord laughing till he wets his pants.

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No-one dreams of being a doctor or a lawyer or anything.

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They just dream of dealing on the boulevard.

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Give me your hungry, your tired, your poor, I'll piss on them.

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That's what the statue of bigotry says.

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Your poor huddled masses,

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why don't we just go club them to death, get it over with?

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Dump them on the boulevard.

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Get it out.

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# To the dirty boulevard I'm going down

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# To the dirty boulevard Get it out

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# To the dirty boulevard going down... #

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When he died, the first thing that passed through my mind

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and out of my mouth was he's as good as it gets.

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You don't get better than Lou as an artist.

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People don't get made better than that.

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Lou's second album, Transformer, was released in 1972.

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It was a huge success,

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despite cataloguing the sexual shenanigans of Warhol's factory

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in the hit track Walk On The Wild Side,

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the hymn to Lou's fascination with the transvestite superstars

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Candy Darling, Jackie Curtis and Holly Woodlawn.

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My friends called me up and said, "Oh, turn on the radio.

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"Lou Reed just wrote a song about you."

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# Holly came from Miami FLA

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# Hitchhiked her way across the USA... #

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And then we went to a party and he was there

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and he was in the corner, a shy, quiet guy.

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So I asked him, how do you know so much about me?

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He said, "Holly, because you have a big mouth."

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What he said was the truth.

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I plucked my eyebrows and shaved my legs and became a she.

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# In the back room, she was everybody's darling... #

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He was surrounded by that, because of the factory, the Warhol crowd.

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So I think he was...

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..I want to say voyeuristic,

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but he just wrote songs about what he saw and knew.

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# Do, do-do, do-do, do-do-do-do do, do-do, do-do... #

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When Lou wrote Walk On The Wild Side, he made me immortal.

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So now, honey, whenever you...

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..drop a quarter in the jukebox

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and there's, "Holly came from Miami FLA."

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One of the things people forget about the songs is how

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compassionate they are.

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Irony, detachment, is just a method of telling a story, after all,

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and it doesn't mean you're not sincere.

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The fact that you have distance

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and aren't frothing all over yourself about something...

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..doesn't mean you're not sincere

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and doesn't mean the songs don't carry any emotional wallop.

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I think things sometimes carry more of an emotional wallop

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if when you tell it, you are a bit detached.

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You catch people a bit off guard, they're not looking for that.

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And I also think that it makes things sound true.

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Because you're not trying to impress somebody,

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you're not trying to make them cry, you're not trying to make them

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say it, you're not trying to make them scared.

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You are telling a story in a straightforward way.

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Photographer Mick Rock first met Lou in London in 1971,

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when Lou hadn't sold any records, as either the Velvets or a solo artist.

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They were introduced by

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one of Mick Rock's constant photographic subjects, David Bowie.

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That night, he took the pictures that were to fix Lou's image

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for years to come.

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The Transformer image.

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I went backstage to meet him.

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David took me back to say hello to him before the show

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and he was in a corner on his own, and it was kind of dim.

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There was something kind of bat-like about it.

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It did seem to confirm all of one's suspicions. Not exactly Nosferatu.

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It was very organic, the whole thing.

0:24:140:24:17

There was no record label bungling in trying to control anything,

0:24:170:24:22

because Lou would've bitten them if they'd tried to do that.

0:24:220:24:25

He actually took the best photographs of me taken in the '70s.

0:24:280:24:31

I remember staying up with him for two or three days once,

0:24:310:24:35

and at some point, he said, "Give me the camera."

0:24:350:24:38

They are actually all, for the most part, in focus.

0:24:380:24:42

He'd come over, he would be on a tour, I would go

0:24:440:24:47

and see the show, hang out with him a bit, and then just have a session.

0:24:470:24:51

But they were very simple affairs. Lou was self-styled.

0:24:520:24:57

I've got a lot of great pictures of him just laughing.

0:24:590:25:01

I threatened to publish them too many times.

0:25:030:25:05

I said, "I'm going to punk with your image, Lou, you know that?"

0:25:050:25:08

# You do what you got to do You do what you can

0:25:080:25:12

# You do what you want to do But I love you, Suzanne

0:25:140:25:19

# You'll try anything once

0:25:190:25:22

# Try anything twice

0:25:220:25:25

# You do what you want to do

0:25:250:25:28

# But I love you, Suzanne

0:25:280:25:30

# I love you when you're good, honey I love you when you're bad

0:25:310:25:35

# You do what you want to do

0:25:370:25:39

# But I love you, Suzanne... #

0:25:390:25:41

He wasn't really such a dark person as a human being.

0:25:410:25:45

I mean, look at the beautiful love songs,

0:25:450:25:47

and how, in a way, how simple they are, lyrically, how direct.

0:25:470:25:53

Like Perfect Day. I mean...

0:25:530:25:56

..my mother loves that - she's 93.

0:25:570:26:00

He could touch many...

0:26:000:26:02

And of course, I'll Be Your Mirror, which, I think

0:26:020:26:05

he wrote that while he was in college.

0:26:050:26:07

One of the most beautiful love songs ever written.

0:26:070:26:10

What's curious about that is that he gave it to Nico to sing to him.

0:26:130:26:19

While they were having their love affair.

0:26:190:26:22

# I find it hard to believe you don't know the beauty you are

0:26:230:26:29

# But if you don't Let me be your eyes

0:26:290:26:34

# A hand in your darkness So you won't be afraid... #

0:26:340:26:38

Lou wanted to plumb the depths and check it all out,

0:26:380:26:41

and I understood that.

0:26:410:26:43

We went to visit this mate of his.

0:26:430:26:46

He lived in an apartment that was absolute chaos.

0:26:460:26:50

Lou said he was the best B&E guy in New York.

0:26:530:26:57

B&E is Breaking and Entering.

0:26:570:26:59

I mean, you've got to remember how intelligent the guy was.

0:27:050:27:08

This is a super intelligent, super cerebral, very informed guy.

0:27:080:27:13

I mean, Lou was a born contrarian, you know?

0:27:190:27:23

-Would you describe yourself as a decadent person?

-No.

0:27:230:27:26

-How would you describe yourself?

-Average.

0:27:260:27:29

No?

0:27:310:27:34

I think so.

0:27:340:27:35

If people were just talking very superficially to him,

0:27:350:27:40

he would bite them.

0:27:400:27:42

I thought I knew what I was saying,

0:27:420:27:44

but if I listen to you much more, maybe I won't.

0:27:440:27:46

He was always very sweet with me, but I saw him torture a few journalists.

0:27:460:27:51

Tell me when the thing is running.

0:27:510:27:53

Sometimes he did it just for the sport, I think.

0:27:550:27:57

But once he got the reputation, he thought, "OK, I'm going

0:27:570:28:00

"to live up to it."

0:28:000:28:02

-Are you a transvestite or a homosexual?

-Sometimes.

-Which one?

0:28:020:28:08

No. I'm not going to sit here and do the lecture circuit.

0:28:100:28:15

My God.

0:28:160:28:18

David, you should keep in mind I got a BA in English,

0:28:190:28:22

I graduated college.

0:28:220:28:23

I'm aware of irony and distance.

0:28:240:28:26

I come from a middle-class background.

0:28:350:28:38

So I'm street with a BA.

0:28:390:28:42

You know, it's like an interesting combination,

0:28:420:28:45

because it gave me the ability to phrase some of these things

0:28:450:28:49

in something other than the vernacular of the street.

0:28:490:28:52

So I wasn't just a one-trick pony.

0:28:520:28:56

There were more sides to me than that.

0:28:560:28:58

The Transformer album was Lou's brief glam period.

0:29:080:29:12

Produced by David Bowie and Mick Ronson, its fusion of sex,

0:29:120:29:15

drugs and glamorous androgyny became an inspiration to those who

0:29:150:29:20

were anything but straight.

0:29:200:29:22

For me, the most important thing about Lou Reed was what

0:29:220:29:24

he did musically, and I think, you know, if you're a kid

0:29:240:29:28

and you want to be cool, there's two albums,

0:29:280:29:31

The Velvet Underground & Nico and Transformer.

0:29:310:29:34

Those two records are so much part of the rock'n'roll rites of passage.

0:29:340:29:39

You know, you can't really be considered credible or cool

0:29:390:29:43

if you do not have those records.

0:29:430:29:45

My first kind of experience of Lou Reed was Walk On The Wild Side,

0:29:480:29:52

I think. That was the real beginning of my love affair with Lou Reed.

0:29:520:29:58

You know, because that song I think was...

0:29:580:30:01

If you were a little gay kid in suburbia,

0:30:010:30:03

that song had you walking on invisible heels.

0:30:030:30:05

It was just so otherworldly. Even more than Bowie

0:30:050:30:09

because I think although Bowie was sexually ambiguous,

0:30:090:30:13

Lou Reed delivered it with a kind of "so what?" quality.

0:30:130:30:16

It was almost like, who cares, you know?

0:30:160:30:20

That's why I love the '70s, because the '70s, you know,

0:30:200:30:23

a lot of stuff was just made up - Mick Jagger and Bowie in bed,

0:30:230:30:26

Marc Bolan and Mickey Finn having an affair.

0:30:260:30:29

It was all great stuff but it probably wasn't true.

0:30:290:30:31

But, you know, you don't really want like that to be true,

0:30:310:30:34

you just want it to be glorious gossip.

0:30:340:30:37

I had to see him and it was around the time of Rock'n'Roll Animal

0:30:460:30:49

and Sally Can't Dance, the bleached hair.

0:30:490:30:52

Looking back, I think he was pretty wasted at that gig

0:30:520:30:55

but I didn't notice. I just thought, "He's fantastic."

0:30:550:30:58

I discovered recently that Lou Reed wasn't very fond of Transformer,

0:31:070:31:11

which is really shocking. He didn't like it.

0:31:110:31:14

He would never talk about it. So, it's one of those weird things.

0:31:140:31:17

With certain rock stars, they embrace a kind of sexual ambiguousness

0:31:170:31:23

but when they get sensible and marry, they want to just say,

0:31:230:31:27

"Oh, no, that I don't want to talk about the camp bit."

0:31:270:31:30

# What is in the mind... #

0:31:300:31:32

If I was going to describe Lou Reed, I would say

0:31:320:31:35

he was always effortlessly cool, even as an older man.

0:31:350:31:38

# Caroline says... #

0:31:390:31:41

I don't really think of Lou Reed as druggie, hard, brutal and savage.

0:31:410:31:45

I think of things like Caroline Says or They're Taking Her Children Away.

0:31:450:31:49

# You can hit me all you want to

0:31:510:31:56

# But I don't love you any more... #

0:31:580:32:02

If you are a kind of quirky kid in ten years' time,

0:32:020:32:05

you probably will find Transformer.

0:32:050:32:07

It might be in your dad's record collection

0:32:070:32:10

or your grandfather's record collection, whatever.

0:32:100:32:13

But I think if you've got an ear for music, you'll hear that

0:32:130:32:16

and it will resonate with you.

0:32:160:32:18

I think that's the power of all great music.

0:32:180:32:21

The whole glam thing, like, was kind of great for me

0:32:260:32:30

when I met Bowie and he was into that. So I got into that.

0:32:300:32:33

All it was was, it was something I'd already seen...

0:32:330:32:37

..with Warhol.

0:32:400:32:41

But I hadn't done that thing so the '70s was like a chance for me

0:32:410:32:44

to get in on it, in a sense, no-one knew me from Adam particularly.

0:32:440:32:50

I could say I was anything, be anywhere.

0:32:500:32:52

I mean that was one of the great things. You could...

0:32:520:32:55

And I learned that from Andy. You could be anything.

0:32:550:32:58

Perversely, Lou followed the hugely commercial Transformer

0:33:030:33:07

with a disturbing concept album, a tale of drug addiction,

0:33:070:33:10

domestic violence and suicide that is Berlin,

0:33:100:33:13

produced by Bob Ezrin in London and released in 1973.

0:33:130:33:17

Back home, Lou's personal life was crumbling.

0:33:190:33:22

And his appetite for narcotics was keener than ever.

0:33:240:33:28

# You were five foot ten inches tall

0:33:280:33:33

# It was very nice

0:33:360:33:39

# Candlelight and Dubonnet on ice... #

0:33:430:33:47

He was an amazing combination of being slightly awkward

0:33:490:33:54

within his own skin and yet being completely consumed with,

0:33:540:33:59

and focused on, a particular idea.

0:33:590:34:03

And so you put the two of them together

0:34:030:34:06

and what you get is this kind of nervous determination.

0:34:060:34:11

I felt really connected to Lou, emotionally,

0:34:130:34:16

very sensitive to what he was going through and so I tried to...

0:34:160:34:21

I tried to use his state of mind as an advantage, a resource,

0:34:230:34:29

and I tried to get to him to see it as a resource.

0:34:290:34:33

He doesn't come in and feel like I'm not in the mood today

0:34:330:34:36

and I'm sorry and I'm letting you down.

0:34:360:34:39

He would come in and say, "I'm not really in the mood today."

0:34:390:34:42

And I would say, "You're not in the mood for that but wow,

0:34:420:34:45

"what if we did this one?"

0:34:450:34:46

And he'd think about it and go, "Yeah. I can do that one."

0:34:460:34:50

# How do you think it feels

0:34:530:34:57

# When you're speeding and lonely?

0:34:580:35:01

# Come here, baby

0:35:010:35:03

# How do you think it feels

0:35:030:35:08

# When all you can say is if only? #

0:35:080:35:12

You know, drugs were a big factor in what happened to all of us

0:35:120:35:16

around the record.

0:35:160:35:18

And at certain points during the day, it, I think...

0:35:180:35:22

..stalled what we were doing but we quickly recover

0:35:240:35:28

and then get back on track.

0:35:280:35:30

Those musical moments, those things that

0:35:300:35:33

happened in the performance, those were transcendent, clear-headed.

0:35:330:35:37

They were above and beyond whatever substance

0:35:370:35:41

we may have ingested four hours before. Do you know what I mean?

0:35:410:35:44

I think on a certain level,

0:35:470:35:48

I may have misjudged how London would affect Lou.

0:35:480:35:52

People were surrounding him, pulling at him, outside of the sessions

0:35:520:35:56

so there was a lot going on in his mind while we were making Berlin.

0:35:560:36:00

When I delivered it to RCA, I said, "OK."

0:36:020:36:06

Lou and Lou's manager at the time, I said, "Here we go. I got it.

0:36:060:36:11

"We're going to deliver it." They said, "OK, let's go."

0:36:110:36:13

We delivered it and I looked around and they were gone.

0:36:130:36:18

They had left the building.

0:36:180:36:20

# Mummy! Mummy! #

0:36:200:36:25

The aftermath of Berlin, for Lou, was fairly devastating.

0:36:250:36:31

It wasn't just a matter of the press writing crushing reviews about it.

0:36:310:36:36

And they got really personal.

0:36:360:36:38

I mean, they were very nasty and direct.

0:36:380:36:41

But it wasn't even that.

0:36:410:36:43

I think the whole experience of living in that dark place,

0:36:430:36:48

you know, really, it's a place of this dissembling of the human being,

0:36:480:36:52

ending up in suicide. You can't get darker than that.

0:36:520:36:56

Days were short and nights were long.

0:36:580:37:01

It was raining and it was just sort of...

0:37:010:37:03

It was an overall fairly depressive experience,

0:37:030:37:07

while being artistically uplifting.

0:37:070:37:10

He said he couldn't stand to listen to it.

0:37:140:37:16

He locked it in the closet

0:37:160:37:17

and didn't want to see it again for years, which is actually the truth.

0:37:170:37:21

We didn't listen to it again for years.

0:37:210:37:24

I, on the other hand, came off of it having had my first

0:37:240:37:29

experiences with certain drugs and was just feeling like hell.

0:37:290:37:33

In 1972, Berlin was one of the darkest experiences of our lives.

0:37:460:37:55

In 2006, it was positively... uplifting.

0:37:550:38:01

It was the most energetic, spiritual, beautiful experience,

0:38:020:38:09

live on a stage, that I'd ever had and I think that Lou had ever had.

0:38:090:38:14

# They are taking her children away

0:38:140:38:16

# Because of the things she did in the streets, in the alleys

0:38:210:38:26

# And the bars

0:38:270:38:29

# She couldn't be beat That miserable, rotten slut

0:38:290:38:35

# She couldn't turn anyone away... #

0:38:350:38:37

Berlin was used in a lawsuit against me,

0:38:380:38:43

by management, to show that I shouldn't be allowed to do

0:38:430:38:49

projects on my own, with people of my own choosing,

0:38:490:38:53

because if I did, this is the kind of album I would put out.

0:38:530:38:57

Can you imagine this? It's a nightmare come true.

0:38:570:39:00

I'm in court, having this baby that I love...

0:39:000:39:04

Ezra and I killed ourselves over this album.

0:39:040:39:07

We thought it was going to be like a cinematic experience,

0:39:070:39:09

except on a record with strings, this real grandeur

0:39:090:39:14

and there it is being used in court against me in a lawsuit where

0:39:140:39:18

they are really, really trying to hurt me, make no mistake.

0:39:180:39:21

Guitarist Steve Hunter played on the original

0:39:260:39:28

Berlin recordings and became part of Lou's band for the subsequent

0:39:280:39:32

Rock'n'Roll Animal tour.

0:39:320:39:34

They were reunited in 2006

0:39:350:39:37

when Lou played Berlin live for the first time.

0:39:370:39:41

I wasn't a fan, until I heard Walk On The Wild Side.

0:39:430:39:46

I couldn't believe he got away with saying some of the stuff

0:39:470:39:50

he got away with and it was on top 40 radio we heard that.

0:39:500:39:54

And I thought, "Now, that's a true rebel.

0:39:540:39:56

"That's a guy who is pulling it off.

0:39:560:39:58

"There were always other people who thought they were rebels

0:39:580:40:01

"but this guy's getting away with it."

0:40:010:40:03

"Even when she was giving head," that's on the radio?

0:40:030:40:07

I couldn't believe it.

0:40:070:40:08

I was completely shocked and I was secretly saying, "Yeah, Lou!"

0:40:080:40:12

You know? That's way to go, man. I'm glad you got away with that.

0:40:120:40:16

I think that's very cool.

0:40:160:40:18

There was a side of Manhattan in those days that was just

0:40:180:40:23

under the surface. It wasn't way down. It was just under the surface.

0:40:230:40:28

So, when I would go to the studio,

0:40:280:40:30

you would get out on a summer's day at ten o'clock at night...

0:40:300:40:34

..and there would be people starting to coagulate around the area, you know?

0:40:350:40:40

OK, what's going on? Is it a parade or something?

0:40:400:40:43

I would come back out at two or three in the morning and there

0:40:430:40:46

are hookers and drug dealers and all kinds of stuff going on out there.

0:40:460:40:49

And here I am, this little skinny guy with a couple of guitars.

0:40:490:40:53

I thought I was going to get killed.

0:40:530:40:55

Any time you can meet a composer or even just a poet who doesn't

0:40:580:41:02

mind stripping away and looking at the ugly side

0:41:020:41:06

and making you see the ugly side as maybe not so ugly,

0:41:060:41:10

it's like driving by an accident - you have to look.

0:41:100:41:13

And I think Lou made you look.

0:41:130:41:15

When I heard some of the lyrics of Berlin, I was completely

0:41:170:41:20

blown away, that he was talking about a side of drugs

0:41:200:41:24

and drug usage that people who were doing drugs

0:41:240:41:28

didn't want to hear about.

0:41:280:41:30

I don't want to hear the ugly stuff of drugs.

0:41:300:41:32

I want to hear how cool it is.

0:41:320:41:33

# The rich son waits for his father to die

0:41:360:41:39

# The poor just drink and cry

0:41:420:41:45

# And me

0:41:470:41:49

# I just don't care at all... #

0:41:510:41:55

I would never have wanted to get into a fight with him, ever,

0:41:570:42:00

because I don't care how big...

0:42:000:42:01

Somehow I get the feeling he would tear things off of me

0:42:010:42:04

that I don't want torn off, you know?

0:42:040:42:07

Lou is a street New York guy and a survivor,

0:42:070:42:12

so whatever it took him to survive, he could do that.

0:42:120:42:16

Lou reminds me a lot of Edgar Allan Poe.

0:42:180:42:21

I read The Pit And The Pendulum and was just...

0:42:230:42:25

I couldn't believe someone could write

0:42:250:42:27

a story like that in eight pages or however long it is,

0:42:270:42:30

that had me scared to death, just reading the words.

0:42:300:42:33

But then Poe would turn around and do Annabel Lee,

0:42:330:42:37

this incredibly romantic, beautiful poem, to a cousin or something.

0:42:370:42:41

He was just as weird and quirky and looked at the dark side of life, like Lou.

0:42:410:42:46

They both were able to be dark and romantic at the same time.

0:42:470:42:50

# On Avenue B, someone cruised him one night

0:42:590:43:03

# He took him in an alley and then he pulled a knife

0:43:040:43:08

# And he thought of his father as he cut his windpipe

0:43:100:43:16

# And finally danced to the rock minuet... #

0:43:170:43:22

I think New York lost its best reporter because he was

0:43:220:43:27

so observant, so keen, so gentle

0:43:270:43:31

and hard at the same time.

0:43:310:43:35

And it was always so heartfelt.

0:43:350:43:37

I don't know if you've ever heard a song called Rock'n'roll Minuet...

0:43:390:43:43

But that song, you can't listen to that song and not feel something.

0:43:450:43:49

# Paralysed by hatred and a piss ugly soul

0:43:570:44:00

# If he murdered his father he thought he'd become whole

0:44:020:44:07

# While listening at night to an old radio

0:44:080:44:15

# Where they danced to the rock minuet... #

0:44:150:44:19

Lou's passion for sonic terrorism and the avant-garde inspired

0:44:560:45:00

Thurston Moore and the music of Sonic Youth.

0:45:000:45:03

Moore treasures Lou's double album Metal Machine Music,

0:45:030:45:06

released in 1974.

0:45:060:45:08

Despite being comprised of nothing but feedback

0:45:080:45:11

and guitar effects, Lou toured it in 2010.

0:45:110:45:14

I figured that nobody would really talk about Metal Machine Music

0:45:220:45:25

and how significant that record was.

0:45:250:45:28

To me, that record... was completely fantastic.

0:45:280:45:33

I mean, there was no such thing as a noise record

0:45:330:45:36

and that was the first noise record I ever heard and it

0:45:360:45:39

was by Lou Reed, who was supposed to be doing Sally Can't Dance part two.

0:45:390:45:42

It certainly wasn't that.

0:45:420:45:44

'Sing along with Lou Reed on his new Reed, Sally Can't Dance

0:45:580:46:01

'on RCA records and tape.'

0:46:010:46:03

I just figured it was going to sound like the way it looked.

0:46:030:46:07

You know, which was this bad ass kind of like glitter rock Lou Reed

0:46:070:46:11

on the cover with his leather jacket. That cover is just beautiful.

0:46:110:46:15

And the liner notes were just so striking and kind of just,

0:46:150:46:19

"My week beats your year," he ends those liner notes.

0:46:190:46:22

What a thing to say.

0:46:220:46:25

And then, the review of Metal Machine Music just had the word "no",

0:46:250:46:31

written like 100 times.

0:46:310:46:35

You know, I was talking to someone from Rolling Stone recently

0:46:360:46:40

about Metal Machine Music and the journalist was...

0:46:400:46:44

Like, well, you know,

0:46:440:46:46

"Nobody's ever listen to that record all the way through."

0:46:460:46:48

I was like, "Oh, I have, numerous times."

0:46:480:46:51

In fact, I still do.

0:46:510:46:53

I actually had it on quad. I had a quadraphonic version.

0:46:530:46:57

I had it on quad eight-track tape.

0:46:570:46:59

I have all variants of Metal Machine Music.

0:46:590:47:02

It's one of the most important records in the my life.

0:47:020:47:07

SONG PLAYS

0:47:070:47:09

It was inevitable that sooner or later, Lou should bump into

0:47:250:47:27

novelist Paul Auster, another writer dedicated in his own way

0:47:270:47:31

to the dramas, dropouts and dangerous delights

0:47:310:47:34

of a New York City that by now, in the 1990s, was fast disappearing.

0:47:340:47:39

# Life's like a mayonnaise soda

0:47:390:47:42

# And life's like space without room

0:47:420:47:45

# And life's like bacon and ice cream

0:47:460:47:50

# That's what life's like without you... #

0:47:500:47:53

I remember there was a moment when, the time when

0:47:530:47:56

we were closest and seeing each other fairly often,

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he told me that he wanted to write a novel. He had figured out a plot.

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He wanted to write a crime novel. And I said, "Well, good luck, Lou."

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And a few months later, he said, "You know, it's damn hard. I can't do it.

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"I don't have the ability to make a big story."

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So, I think his form was the short lyric and he did brilliantly.

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His songs ARE the words. I mean, Lou was not a singer.

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He was able to present his songs in a brilliant way, but it's

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the combination of the personality coming through the voice.

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I remember a very amusing song, I think it was

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a song about Laurie Anderson and their love for each other and...

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The song had to do with all her ex-lovers.

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He wants to throw them off the roof of her loft and see them

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run over by cars on Canal Street.

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I thought this was hilarious and so vivid.

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Some of his songs are very funny, too. They are not all grim.

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We worked on two films together.

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The first one is called Blue In The Face,

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and Lou has a prominent role in the film.

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He is Lou Reed, the resident philosopher

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of the Brooklyn Cigar Company, sitting behind the counter

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and I was the one off-camera, throwing questions at him.

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I'm scared in my own apartment. I'm, I'm...

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You know, I'm scared 24 hours a day, but not necessarily in New York.

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I actually feel pretty comfortable in New York.

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I get scared like in Sweden.

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Each one of his comments is hilarious.

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You know, it's kind of empty. They are all drunk. Everything works.

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Acerbic, strange, unpredictable.

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You go to the medicine cabinet, open it up

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and there's little poster saying, "In case of suicide, call..."

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You turn on the TV, there's an ear operation. These things scare me.

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New York, no.

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I really think in a way, he steals the movie.

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He's the heart of the movie and he's not doing anything,

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just sitting there and talking.

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My childhood was so unpleasant that I absolutely don't think

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I remember anything I think before...age 31.

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I don't follow the world of pop music that closely

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but I can tell you that I look out at the scene,

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what I know of it, and I don't see anyone like him.

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There is no-one doing what he did

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and so in a sense he's irreplaceable.

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That is why, I think, we are going to keep needing him in the future.

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I think his stuff is going to go on being listened to for a long,

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long time.

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One, two, three...

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# If you are close the door

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# I never have to see the day again... #

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In 1993, the original Velvet Underground reformed.

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Their music was as unrepentant as ever,

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driven once more by their proto-punk drummer, Maureen Tucker.

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If Lou had resented the lack of recognition for the band

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first time around,

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now was the time to remind everyone just how influential they had been.

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We are looking forward very much to playing for people who have

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always said, "I wish I could have seen a Velvet Underground show."

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Well, now you can,

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with the original four members, in great shape, up and barking.

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Our reunion tour was like a dream come true.

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That was really, really exciting, for me to be playing with them

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again. It's really, really was.

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Lou changing in those 30 years almost...

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I would say, the major thing, the only thing really,

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I guess that I noticed is that...

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..in 1993, he was a big deal.

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And in 1968, he wasn't.

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# Na, na, na, na, na, na

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# Na, na, na, na, na

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# Na, na, na, na, na, na

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# Na, na, na, na, na... #

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We had a sound check one night for six hours.

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And that was being pretty darn picky about how your guitar sounds.

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The first time I saw Lou play in a long, long time, I think

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it was 1986 or '87 or something, in Atlanta, and it was the first

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time I had seen him play to a big audience, and I cried. I truly did.

0:52:520:52:57

I was not hysterical but tears coming down.

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I was so excited for him.

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I always had a special...not a concern, I don't want to say

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I was always worried about Lou. I don't mean that but...

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Later on, after the Velvets, I would often really worry about him.

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I don't want it to sound like more than it was.

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# Some kinds of love

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# Margarita told Tom

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# Between thought and expression

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# Lies a lifetime

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# And some kinds of love

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# Possibilities end

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# Oh, if only to miss one

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# Would seem to be groundless

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# My body, ta ta ta... #

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My friend Lou...

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I miss knowing he's out there, knowing he's happy

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and playing music and is out there in the world.

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When the people who made up your life,

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especially your young life, die... And I don't mean just your friends

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or your relatives but the people who made

0:54:210:54:25

up your world - the actors who are big at the time, the musicians,

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the politicians - when they start dying, that's scary.

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It starts getting kind of scary.

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But...when it's someone...

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..you've just loved for so long

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and he's always been out there doing his thing

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and you just know he's out there in the world,

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that was very difficult.

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That was really, and still is, I'm still feeling really weird about it.

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But you have to understand what a nice, sweet guy he must have been

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because he married Laurie Anderson and that was it.

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That was a love affair. That was the love of his life.

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It's hard to believe he's gone. I mean it just...

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Thank God he had Laurie with him, to...

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..you know, make it go gently.

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Yeah, I cried. I cried.

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He was a gladiator and he...

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You know, he was an amazing artist.

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He was an exceptional human being by any standards.

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I carry Lou Reed with me, in a way,

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like I carry my family,

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and losing him was surprisingly one of the biggest blows of my life.

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Lou voiced those things that his entire generation was feeling

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and generations after, too,

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but when he said, "My life was saved by rock'n'roll,"

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he was talking for me.

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The thing I'd like to add is I'm going to miss that guy.

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You know, he was always... good for a nice hug.

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The guy I got to know riding a motorcycle through

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the wilds of Pennsylvania...

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You know, he's in front and I'm on the back

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and we're both kind of... We're hardly Hells Angels.

0:56:530:56:56

And he's like, waggling his bike like that and we scoot along...

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It was just kind of a normal day, in a weird way, I have you think,

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yeah, it was a perfect day and I'm glad I spent it with Lou.

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Pff...

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Erm... When he was sick before he died,

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I went to see him in Southampton, in the hospital.

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And...

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He... Urgh.

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He reached up and...

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we held hands and I kissed him and he was crying

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and it was just awful, awful.

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Erm... I'll miss everything he was -

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funny, brilliant, gifted.

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There won't be another one like him.

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# You're going to reap just what you sow

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# You're going to reap just what you sow

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# You're going to reap just what you sow. #

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