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Listen, listen, listen. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:03 | |
Sarah Vaughan, Ella Fitzgerald, | 0:00:05 | 0:00:08 | |
Billie Holiday, Peggy Lee and Nina Simone. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:11 | |
Five queens of jazz who helped to forge | 0:00:11 | 0:00:14 | |
the soundtrack of American life in the mid-20th century. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:18 | |
Creatures of troubled times, | 0:00:23 | 0:00:25 | |
but resplendent in their poise, virtuosity and musical truth, | 0:00:25 | 0:00:30 | |
these women triumphed, often at great personal cost, | 0:00:30 | 0:00:33 | |
both embodying and transcending their era. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:37 | |
From the way they sounded to the way they looked, | 0:00:37 | 0:00:41 | |
from the joy of seeing them to the pain of being them, | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
this is the story of the jazz queen. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:47 | |
These are images of the lost world that paved the way | 0:01:05 | 0:01:09 | |
for the great jazz diva. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:10 | |
America at the dawn of the 20th century. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:13 | |
All of the great figures who invented jazz | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
and the classic American songbook were born in the same period. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:23 | |
They were all born in the 1890s, early 1900s. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:27 | |
They grew up listening to the same thing, | 0:01:27 | 0:01:29 | |
subject to the same social conditions, | 0:01:29 | 0:01:31 | |
reading the same newspapers, hearing the same recordings. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:35 | |
But even though they don't know each other | 0:01:35 | 0:01:37 | |
and may not be thinking of themselves as one big group, | 0:01:37 | 0:01:40 | |
they were all feeding off each other. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:42 | |
Have we seen anybody like Ella or Sarah in the last 30 or 40? | 0:01:43 | 0:01:47 | |
That's a long time, 30 or 40 years. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:49 | |
They belong to their time. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:51 | |
Their time was the mid-30s to the mid-60s. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:57 | |
Three glorious decades | 0:01:57 | 0:01:59 | |
that now seem as remote and romantic as the jazz diva herself. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:04 | |
There is certainly something a bit exotic about them. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:07 | |
And singing those beautiful songs, | 0:02:09 | 0:02:13 | |
full of imaginary late-night hangs | 0:02:13 | 0:02:16 | |
in speakeasies and telling these wonderful stories. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:19 | |
It was a smoky place because people were smoking, | 0:02:22 | 0:02:25 | |
not cos there was a smoke machine and there was a mist in the air | 0:02:25 | 0:02:28 | |
because there was sweat and smoke together, | 0:02:28 | 0:02:31 | |
and there was a grit and dirt about it and it was very cabaret. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:35 | |
People still felt the need to believe in something bigger. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:41 | |
And you strove, you had a reason to strive to be better. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:46 | |
It was a golden era of songwriting, a golden era in great bands | 0:02:49 | 0:02:55 | |
and it was a golden era of singers. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:59 | |
# Love is just like a faucet | 0:02:59 | 0:03:02 | |
# It turns off and on | 0:03:04 | 0:03:07 | |
# Love is like a faucet | 0:03:11 | 0:03:14 | |
# It turns off and on | 0:03:16 | 0:03:19 | |
# Sometimes when you think it's on, baby | 0:03:23 | 0:03:27 | |
# It has turned off and gone. # | 0:03:27 | 0:03:31 | |
The jazz diva transcends ordinary life. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:45 | |
She came into being during the golden age of Hollywood, | 0:03:45 | 0:03:48 | |
which is why she looks like a movie star | 0:03:48 | 0:03:51 | |
and why her demise coincided with the death of old Hollywood. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:55 | |
But while she reigned supreme, | 0:03:57 | 0:03:59 | |
her looks could be as mesmerising as her voice. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:02 | |
It was all about mystery, | 0:04:03 | 0:04:05 | |
and I think mystery is one of the most beautiful things | 0:04:05 | 0:04:10 | |
to feed people's imaginations. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:13 | |
That whole glamour thing that happened, | 0:04:15 | 0:04:19 | |
it happened from ordinary women up, | 0:04:19 | 0:04:21 | |
so if you were in showbusiness and you had photographers, | 0:04:21 | 0:04:25 | |
you had that beautiful lighting and black-and-white | 0:04:25 | 0:04:30 | |
and all of the paraphernalia that goes with presentation. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:34 | |
They look magnificent, they're overly made up, | 0:04:38 | 0:04:41 | |
their hair is in a bouffant, six inches above their heads. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:46 | |
They're wearing these sleek, satiny gowns or beaded things. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:49 | |
And they're beyond gorgeous. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:53 | |
They're very human, very real. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:57 | |
Approachable. Touchable. | 0:04:57 | 0:05:00 | |
Yet... | 0:05:02 | 0:05:03 | |
..better than we are. That's just it. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:10 | |
Nina Simone, she was like a goddess floating through. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:15 | |
Literally, at the Concertgebouw in Amsterdam, | 0:05:15 | 0:05:18 | |
she seemed to float up the stairs. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:20 | |
She had this gown on, | 0:05:20 | 0:05:21 | |
she looked like the empress from another planet, | 0:05:21 | 0:05:23 | |
like from a Buck Rogers or Flash Gordon movie. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:26 | |
The elegance, the surreality of it all, | 0:05:26 | 0:05:30 | |
and the down-to-earthiness of it all, that was unique. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:34 | |
And that was Nina Simone. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:36 | |
The talented female jazz singer wasn't always in control of the way she looked. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:43 | |
Sarah Vaughan's early image as just one of the band | 0:05:45 | 0:05:48 | |
was radically changed by her label, Columbia Records, | 0:05:48 | 0:05:51 | |
on her way to individual diva stardom. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:53 | |
They're the ones who changed her teeth. They changed her hairline. | 0:05:56 | 0:05:59 | |
They're the ones who taught her how to be gowned, | 0:06:00 | 0:06:03 | |
they're the ones who put her in the spotlight | 0:06:03 | 0:06:06 | |
and told her how to stop being the gawky New Jersey girl | 0:06:06 | 0:06:10 | |
who won the Monday night competition at the Apollo. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:13 | |
And to be a diva. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:15 | |
# My heart's in a dither, dear | 0:06:16 | 0:06:19 | |
# When you're at a distance | 0:06:20 | 0:06:25 | |
# But when you are near | 0:06:27 | 0:06:31 | |
# Oh, my... # | 0:06:33 | 0:06:36 | |
But some jazz queens succeeded in creating their own look from the ground up. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:45 | |
Peggy Lee's image as a cool, white, | 0:06:45 | 0:06:48 | |
sexy screen goddess with a voice was entirely of her own making. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:52 | |
She ended up designing her own gowns, and she knew her figure, | 0:06:52 | 0:06:55 | |
she knew what she wanted to look like on stage. | 0:06:55 | 0:06:58 | |
She had a strong idea of who she wanted to be, | 0:06:59 | 0:07:04 | |
who she wanted this persona of Peggy Lee to be. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:08 | |
And she didn't want somebody else to dictate that to her. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:13 | |
# Sitting down, wondering what it's all about | 0:07:13 | 0:07:16 | |
# You ain't got no money, they will put you out | 0:07:16 | 0:07:20 | |
# Why don't you do right, man, like some other men do? | 0:07:20 | 0:07:25 | |
# Get out of here and get me some money too. # | 0:07:30 | 0:07:35 | |
Behind the glamour of the jazz diva often lurks the potent mythology | 0:07:48 | 0:07:52 | |
of a troubled childhood scarred by all kinds of deprivations, hardships and abuse. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:59 | |
It's a sort of cliche now, isn't it? | 0:07:59 | 0:08:01 | |
You know, that, "Well, they had early struggles | 0:08:01 | 0:08:04 | |
"and bad times and it gives depth to what you do," and yet... | 0:08:04 | 0:08:08 | |
I suppose, in a way it does. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:10 | |
Billie Holiday had a dreadful childhood. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:14 | |
Abused, she was in an orphanage, | 0:08:14 | 0:08:16 | |
she was farmed out to a madam to clean, I mean, | 0:08:16 | 0:08:19 | |
the worst things happen to Billie Holiday as a child. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:22 | |
And people say, "Ah", you know? | 0:08:22 | 0:08:25 | |
You can't listen to Piaf and not know her early life. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:29 | |
You can't listen to Billie Holiday, particularly when she's older | 0:08:29 | 0:08:33 | |
and frailer and absolutely not in the space, | 0:08:33 | 0:08:36 | |
without knowing that she's a drug addict. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:39 | |
You can't do that, you can't separate the information. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:42 | |
# Hush now, don't explain | 0:08:42 | 0:08:47 | |
# You're my joy and pain | 0:08:50 | 0:08:55 | |
# My life's yours, love | 0:08:58 | 0:09:05 | |
# Don't explain. # | 0:09:08 | 0:09:10 | |
There's a part of me that says, you know, | 0:09:10 | 0:09:13 | |
the personal lives of the artists, | 0:09:13 | 0:09:15 | |
I mean, for all we know, Brahms may have had a sour stomach. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:19 | |
But Billie Holiday, we tend to read into it. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:22 | |
But I think that she was such a great artist that her stuff transcended it. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:28 | |
Thousands of people had horrible childhoods | 0:09:30 | 0:09:32 | |
and they weren't Billie Holiday. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:35 | |
They created what they did in spite of it all, not because of it. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:39 | |
Some come from hard backgrounds, of course, but not all of them did. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:44 | |
Sarah Vaughan had a quite nice, middle-class upbringing, | 0:09:44 | 0:09:47 | |
and wasn't too up against it, like, say, Ella Fitzgerald was. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:53 | |
Ella Fitzgerald and Billie Holiday were born around the same time. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:02 | |
They both had very horrible, horrible childhoods. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:06 | |
What I don't hear in Ella's voice, | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
that was very present in Billie's voice, is the pain. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:14 | |
Ella suffered but somehow that did not translate in her delivery. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:20 | |
# My fur coat's so low Lord, ain't it cold? | 0:10:20 | 0:10:23 | |
# But I'm not going to holler cos I still got a dollar | 0:10:23 | 0:10:26 | |
# And when I get low oh-oh-oh-oh, I get high. # | 0:10:26 | 0:10:30 | |
Ella Fitzgerald had a very tough start. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:33 | |
Her mother died very young, she was in an orphanage, | 0:10:33 | 0:10:37 | |
she was running the numbers for the Mafia, | 0:10:37 | 0:10:39 | |
she ended up in some very, very dodgy situations. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:42 | |
So you don't always have to parade your neurotic, | 0:10:42 | 0:10:48 | |
awful behaviour and this terrible life you've had. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:52 | |
# Love for sale | 0:10:52 | 0:10:58 | |
# If you want the thrill of love | 0:11:03 | 0:11:08 | |
# I've been through the mill of love. # | 0:11:08 | 0:11:12 | |
Once Ella gets close to tragedy, to the dark side of Billie, | 0:11:13 | 0:11:20 | |
for instance, it doesn't sound right. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:23 | |
She's acting. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:25 | |
But it's cheerful. Cheerfulness keeps breaking through with her. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:30 | |
# A-tisket | 0:11:30 | 0:11:31 | |
# A-tasket | 0:11:31 | 0:11:32 | |
# I lost my yellow basket | 0:11:32 | 0:11:35 | |
# Won't someone help me find my bask | 0:11:35 | 0:11:38 | |
# And make me happy again, again? | 0:11:38 | 0:11:40 | |
-# Was it red? -No, no, no, no | 0:11:40 | 0:11:43 | |
# Was it green? | 0:11:43 | 0:11:44 | |
# No, no, just a little yellow basket | 0:11:44 | 0:11:48 | |
# My little yellow basket. # | 0:11:51 | 0:11:53 | |
The shiny, white carapace that was the glamorous facade | 0:11:57 | 0:12:00 | |
of Miss Peggy Lee reflected nothing of a childhood | 0:12:00 | 0:12:04 | |
spent at the mercy of a cruel stepmother | 0:12:04 | 0:12:06 | |
and an uncaring, alcoholic father. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:09 | |
That's how she got through her childhood, I believe, through music | 0:12:10 | 0:12:16 | |
and writing songs in her head and singing. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:19 | |
She didn't want to talk about her problems on stage, | 0:12:20 | 0:12:23 | |
but definitely all of that was there with her when she sang. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:29 | |
It couldn't not be. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:31 | |
For all of those women, the important thing was the music. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:35 | |
They were in it for the music. It was the thing that saved them. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:39 | |
They're trying to solve a problem. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:46 | |
They're trying to fix something and they're grasping at straws, | 0:12:46 | 0:12:51 | |
and sometimes they must feel like they're falling | 0:12:51 | 0:12:54 | |
and they can't grab onto something | 0:12:54 | 0:12:57 | |
that will hold them together and this is the nearest thing. | 0:12:57 | 0:13:00 | |
The effect of years of unhappiness... | 0:13:01 | 0:13:08 | |
..and not having love... | 0:13:11 | 0:13:13 | |
..and not knowing that you really are worth something - | 0:13:15 | 0:13:19 | |
it's very difficult to instil that in someone who doesn't feel that. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:25 | |
Annie Ross knew about childhood unhappiness. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:31 | |
She arrived on an immigrant ship from Scotland to New York in 1934 | 0:13:31 | 0:13:38 | |
only to be left there by her parents in the care of an aunt, | 0:13:38 | 0:13:41 | |
the singer, Ella Logan. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:43 | |
Only four years old at the time, Ross was a precocious talent | 0:13:43 | 0:13:47 | |
destined not only to discover the work of the great American jazz divas | 0:13:47 | 0:13:52 | |
but also to be a fellow traveller on the jazz highway. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:56 | |
The first time I heard Billie Holiday, | 0:13:58 | 0:14:01 | |
the first time I heard Sarah Vaughan, the first time | 0:14:01 | 0:14:06 | |
I heard Ella Fitzgerald, it's such a blissful thing to know | 0:14:06 | 0:14:13 | |
that you're young and you've got to listen to all these people. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:18 | |
It's breathtaking. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:20 | |
# Those that have shall get | 0:14:20 | 0:14:24 | |
# Those that don't shall lose | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
# So the Bible says | 0:14:27 | 0:14:30 | |
# And it still is news. # | 0:14:30 | 0:14:34 | |
I hated being a child. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:36 | |
I hated my childhood. I never wanted to be a child. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:40 | |
I wanted to be grown and free. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:44 | |
# But God bless the child that's got his own | 0:14:44 | 0:14:48 | |
# That's got his own. # | 0:14:50 | 0:14:51 | |
Singing was part of me... | 0:14:53 | 0:14:55 | |
..and it was the one treasure I had. | 0:14:57 | 0:15:00 | |
If singing offered a way out of a bad situation | 0:15:03 | 0:15:06 | |
for a girl with a voice, | 0:15:06 | 0:15:07 | |
her best escape route in the '30s and '40s was to join a band, | 0:15:07 | 0:15:11 | |
most of which were comprised entirely of men. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:15 | |
She might be hired just to be looked at, | 0:15:15 | 0:15:18 | |
to be what the band often called "the canary". | 0:15:18 | 0:15:20 | |
# We keep spending all our time in beauty parlours. # | 0:15:22 | 0:15:25 | |
They were definitely a flower, you know, cos people | 0:15:26 | 0:15:30 | |
maybe get tired of just hearing "Da-doop-da-da, | 0:15:30 | 0:15:33 | |
"da-doop-da-da," hour after hour, blah-blah-blah. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:37 | |
Finally, a singer coming out, she's wearing...she's dressed lovely. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:42 | |
Most of these singers were not of the musical level or experience | 0:15:42 | 0:15:47 | |
of the musicians in the band, | 0:15:47 | 0:15:49 | |
so I don't think that they cared very much about them. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:51 | |
They were a cutie-pie, a guy or girl, they were cute | 0:15:51 | 0:15:54 | |
and the young people came to see them and they sang the song and they got off. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:57 | |
I think the band always was a little bit snooty, ha-ha! | 0:15:58 | 0:16:04 | |
You know, the chick singer was a big joke. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:07 | |
The difference was when a Billie Holiday or an Ella Fitzgerald | 0:16:07 | 0:16:10 | |
or a Sarah Vaughan, even at the earliest stages | 0:16:10 | 0:16:13 | |
were on that bandstand, I think it became very clear to the musicians | 0:16:13 | 0:16:16 | |
that they were dealing with at the very least a peer, | 0:16:16 | 0:16:19 | |
and for probably many of the musicians, somebody who was superior to them. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:22 | |
Ella Fitzgerald, you know, initially people didn't want to hire her | 0:16:24 | 0:16:28 | |
because she was overweight and they didn't think she was pretty enough. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:31 | |
She really didn't look that great. Smelt a bit. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:36 | |
Her first frock was a whip-round from the band. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:39 | |
They said, "We can't have her, look at her, look at her." | 0:16:39 | 0:16:42 | |
And Chick Webb heard her and said, "Yes, but she can sing. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:45 | |
"We can fix the look, we can fix the look but we've got to have her." | 0:16:45 | 0:16:51 | |
The queens of jazz began their careers with busy swing bands | 0:16:53 | 0:16:57 | |
under the control and leadership of famous bandleaders | 0:16:57 | 0:17:00 | |
such as Benny Goodman, Chick Webb, | 0:17:00 | 0:17:03 | |
Count Basie and Duke Ellington. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:06 | |
This meant spending months and months touring on the bus. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:11 | |
18 guys in the band and a girl singer. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:16 | |
There's 200 one-nighters in a row, some of them, | 0:17:16 | 0:17:19 | |
and it was a constant 300-mile trip every night. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:23 | |
Ella Fitzgerald was the life of the party. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
She was the only girl on the bus, | 0:17:29 | 0:17:32 | |
with a big orchestra-sized bus travelling around, | 0:17:32 | 0:17:35 | |
whether it was early Chick Webb when she was 16 or Duke Ellington | 0:17:35 | 0:17:39 | |
later on and those guys were working every day, sleeping sitting up. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:42 | |
How did they present themselves night after night as a figure of glamour? | 0:17:44 | 0:17:48 | |
What kind of mental strength and backbone did it take | 0:17:48 | 0:17:53 | |
just to get out of bed and look nice after eight hours on a bus | 0:17:53 | 0:17:56 | |
without being able to eat or use the bathroom on the way, | 0:17:56 | 0:17:59 | |
and then in a crummy backstage dressing room, | 0:17:59 | 0:18:01 | |
if there was a dressing room, probably just the back seat of a bus, | 0:18:01 | 0:18:05 | |
apply the make-up, put on the gown | 0:18:05 | 0:18:08 | |
and go and satisfy what these people who came to hear the band | 0:18:08 | 0:18:11 | |
wanted to see, as the figure of glamour, of sex, of femininity. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:16 | |
It certainly was difficult but, you know, you're young, | 0:18:17 | 0:18:22 | |
so riding on a bus with all these guys was great. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:26 | |
You know, the really hip guys sat in the back. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:32 | |
And I found love there. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:39 | |
Love wasn't the obvious thing to find on a bus full of male | 0:18:42 | 0:18:45 | |
musicians, running on a tank full of testosterone, bound for jazz glory. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:51 | |
Some girls had reputations, I suppose, you know, | 0:18:51 | 0:18:56 | |
she might have done the saxophones first and then the trumpets! | 0:18:56 | 0:19:00 | |
Oh, no, start with the rhythm section, wouldn't you say? Yes. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:04 | |
If you want a good beat behind your singing! | 0:19:04 | 0:19:07 | |
Ha-ha! That was tough, tough on the girl! | 0:19:08 | 0:19:13 | |
18 guys taking a shot at her all the time. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:16 | |
There were guys, sure, I was young, you know? | 0:19:18 | 0:19:24 | |
It was quite a combination of music and love. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:29 | |
It was a fascinating world. I loved it to bits. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:34 | |
But the fascinating world, tin-canned by the tour bus, | 0:19:39 | 0:19:43 | |
would, sooner or later, have to disembark | 0:19:43 | 0:19:46 | |
in those parts of the country where skin colour mattered | 0:19:46 | 0:19:49 | |
much more than musicianship. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:51 | |
There were still, you know, black toilets, black restaurants. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:56 | |
You couldn't go into the white ones. It was kind of embarrassing. | 0:19:56 | 0:20:01 | |
Going to towns where you went in through the kitchen | 0:20:01 | 0:20:05 | |
and people spat at you in the street. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:07 | |
If you were a black woman, your life was untenable in the South | 0:20:07 | 0:20:11 | |
and if you were a white woman, | 0:20:11 | 0:20:12 | |
people thought you were a slut and a whore. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:15 | |
What was it like being a black woman | 0:20:15 | 0:20:17 | |
and singing to all these white guys in the audience that, | 0:20:17 | 0:20:21 | |
you know, were noisy and rowdy and disrespectful, how did you do that? | 0:20:21 | 0:20:25 | |
They had a sense of expression | 0:20:25 | 0:20:28 | |
and a family within the musicians that they worked with. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:32 | |
They did have their art as a kind of salve, | 0:20:35 | 0:20:38 | |
a kind of bond to heal over it for a time. | 0:20:38 | 0:20:42 | |
If being part of a big band offered the black female jazz singer | 0:20:46 | 0:20:49 | |
comfort and protection in a white, male world, | 0:20:49 | 0:20:51 | |
it was also where she learnt about how to be a musician herself. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:55 | |
Ella Fitzgerald, being on the bandstand with Chick Webb every night, | 0:20:56 | 0:21:01 | |
can you imagine what she learned about rhythm from him? | 0:21:01 | 0:21:04 | |
Billie Holiday, for one year, night after night, | 0:21:04 | 0:21:07 | |
with the Count Basie Orchestra. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:09 | |
# Them that's got shall have | 0:21:09 | 0:21:15 | |
# Them that's not shall lose. # | 0:21:15 | 0:21:18 | |
Night after night, hearing that, and also them hearing her. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:23 | |
# Mama may have | 0:21:25 | 0:21:28 | |
# Papa may have | 0:21:28 | 0:21:32 | |
# But God bless the child that's got his own | 0:21:32 | 0:21:35 | |
# That's got his own. # | 0:21:38 | 0:21:40 | |
When you sing with a big band | 0:21:42 | 0:21:43 | |
and you learn the discipline that goes on in the big band, | 0:21:43 | 0:21:48 | |
you're special. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:50 | |
# You're mean to me. # | 0:21:50 | 0:21:54 | |
They weren't in charge of their repertoire. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:57 | |
The arranger said, "I think we'll do this", or the bandleader said, "Why don't we do that?" | 0:21:57 | 0:22:01 | |
And so, in a sense, they had this quite demanding apprenticeship. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:08 | |
Someone like Peggy Lee, when she got with the Benny Goodman Orchestra in 1941, | 0:22:08 | 0:22:14 | |
she wasn't the Peggy Lee of five or six years later. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:16 | |
There was time for her to mature. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:19 | |
When you work with Benny Goodman, if you keep your mouth shut, | 0:22:21 | 0:22:24 | |
and watch what's going on, that's a college education - | 0:22:24 | 0:22:28 | |
it is four years of college with Benny. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:30 | |
And that is what she got. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:32 | |
# You had plenty money, 1922 | 0:22:34 | 0:22:38 | |
# You let other women Make a fool of you | 0:22:38 | 0:22:42 | |
# Why don't you do right? # | 0:22:42 | 0:22:43 | |
She was just a member of the band. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:46 | |
She was one of the instruments | 0:22:46 | 0:22:47 | |
and she needed to fit in and conform and please Benny. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:52 | |
# And get me some money too... # | 0:22:52 | 0:22:57 | |
Benny said, "Don't do that, don't do that." | 0:22:57 | 0:23:00 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:23:00 | 0:23:02 | |
That's the way to do it. He's the boss. | 0:23:04 | 0:23:08 | |
But the power of the big band bosses didn't survive World War II. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
Nor did the bands themselves - | 0:23:18 | 0:23:20 | |
their personnel decimated by military service, the rebuilding of life | 0:23:20 | 0:23:24 | |
after the war, the expense of big band touring and union trouble. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:28 | |
While the men were at war, a new kind of women had slipped | 0:23:33 | 0:23:36 | |
out of the kitchen and into popular entertainment - | 0:23:36 | 0:23:39 | |
a woman of dubious virtue, | 0:23:39 | 0:23:41 | |
with a troubled past and an uncertain future. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:44 | |
Resourceful, independent, even dangerous. A femme fatale. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:49 | |
Meanwhile, the hippest sidewalks now marched to the tune of a new | 0:23:51 | 0:23:55 | |
kind of jazz called bebop. Modern jazz for a modern age. | 0:23:55 | 0:23:59 | |
Perfect for a new kind of modern musical woman. The jazz diva. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:04 | |
After World War II, when the bands died, the singers were liberated | 0:24:04 | 0:24:07 | |
and the really good ones had a glorious decade in the '50s and early...middle '60s. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:12 | |
They were all signed to major labels, | 0:24:14 | 0:24:16 | |
they recorded with luxurious orchestras and string ensembles. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:21 | |
They were backed up by radio. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:24 | |
There were jazz clubs around the country. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:29 | |
And there were the record companies themselves, | 0:24:29 | 0:24:31 | |
that knew how to publicise them. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:33 | |
The jazz diva's time had come. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:39 | |
Like a film noir heroine, she took centre stage, | 0:24:39 | 0:24:42 | |
this time in a smaller group of musicians | 0:24:42 | 0:24:45 | |
playing more complex music for audiences to listen to, | 0:24:45 | 0:24:49 | |
no longer surrounded by 20 guys in a big band | 0:24:49 | 0:24:51 | |
whose main job was to get people dancing. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:54 | |
Now she was the focus of attention. | 0:24:54 | 0:24:57 | |
With Ella, what musicians listen for is the sheer perfection. | 0:24:57 | 0:25:02 | |
First of all, the instrument, her diction, and her phrasing. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:10 | |
# Heaven | 0:25:10 | 0:25:12 | |
# I'm in heaven | 0:25:12 | 0:25:18 | |
# And my heart beats so That I can hardly speak... # | 0:25:19 | 0:25:26 | |
Ella's music came out so perfect, it would be the | 0:25:26 | 0:25:30 | |
envy of any composer to be able to write the things that she sang. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:35 | |
# Say, hey, hey, hey The bo-o-o-o-o-oy | 0:25:35 | 0:25:39 | |
# From Ipanema | 0:25:39 | 0:25:41 | |
# Say the boy from Ipanema | 0:25:41 | 0:25:44 | |
# Say the boy from Ipanema, Ipanema Yes, the boy from Ipanema. # | 0:25:44 | 0:25:51 | |
They say that when she first joined Chick Webb's band, she would come on | 0:25:51 | 0:25:55 | |
and she was, completely sort of blank. | 0:25:55 | 0:25:57 | |
She would stand there and the music would start | 0:25:57 | 0:25:59 | |
and she would suddenly come to life. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:02 | |
And as long as the music was playing, she was animated and moving about, she was smiling and waving. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:11 | |
And the music stopped, and she stopped. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:13 | |
The great jazz divas were able to steal | 0:26:20 | 0:26:22 | |
the limelight by virtue of their own very special and private instrument, | 0:26:22 | 0:26:27 | |
one that they played inside their own flesh - their voice. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:32 | |
Singing is the most intimate form of music making. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:35 | |
Every other musician on the stage has a filter between himself | 0:26:37 | 0:26:41 | |
and the audience and that is the instrument, but the singer is naked. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:47 | |
It is all about her insights, her diaphragm, her vocal chords. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:53 | |
It is different from every other instrument because of that. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:56 | |
It's inside you. Every part of you goes to making that sound. | 0:26:56 | 0:27:01 | |
The jazz diva is born with her instrument. It is uniquely hers. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:10 | |
They had a good sense of how to make themselves individuals. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:16 | |
And that was something that no-one could really take from them | 0:27:16 | 0:27:20 | |
-and that was where their power was. -They were copying no-one else. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:25 | |
They were the beginning. | 0:27:25 | 0:27:27 | |
Ella Fitzgerald says that she loved Connie Boswell | 0:27:27 | 0:27:29 | |
and wanted to sound like her. They had people... I'm sure | 0:27:29 | 0:27:33 | |
Betty Smith and the other blues singers from before their days | 0:27:33 | 0:27:36 | |
would have influenced them, but they were trailblazers. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:38 | |
And no-one could blaze a vocal trail like Billie holiday. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:44 | |
# Treat me right, baby And I will stay home every day | 0:27:44 | 0:27:51 | |
# Just treat me right, baby. # | 0:27:57 | 0:28:00 | |
You cannot teach someone to sound like Billie Holiday. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:06 | |
I don't know. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:09 | |
Billie, Billie, Billie! | 0:28:09 | 0:28:11 | |
What have you done? I don't know, it's just so free and natural | 0:28:11 | 0:28:16 | |
and does she care if she was drunk? No. To imitate her would be folly. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:22 | |
You couldn't stop her and say, "You shouldn't do it like that." | 0:28:24 | 0:28:27 | |
It was too subtle, too cute. | 0:28:27 | 0:28:29 | |
Everything has a sheen, a perfection, | 0:28:31 | 0:28:34 | |
-and it seemed so carefree and so lazy. -Her tuning was impeccable. | 0:28:34 | 0:28:40 | |
She was off her tits most of the time, and her tuning was bang on. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:46 | |
You hear her life and you hear her truth | 0:28:46 | 0:28:50 | |
and I think a lot of people throw out cliches like that. | 0:28:50 | 0:28:53 | |
But it is true. Truth is what you hear. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:56 | |
With Billie Holiday, you begin with the strange fact that she | 0:28:56 | 0:29:00 | |
only has a range of about 12 to 15 notes. | 0:29:00 | 0:29:03 | |
If you were to look at what she sings written down | 0:29:03 | 0:29:05 | |
and then look at the song copy, the song copy the notes go up and down | 0:29:05 | 0:29:08 | |
like this... Billie just goes like this. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:10 | |
It is the opposite of Sarah Vaughan. | 0:29:10 | 0:29:13 | |
Sarah Vaughan could have probably have done opera if she had been born in a different world. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:18 | |
I heard her singing Bali Hai on an opera version of the musical | 0:29:18 | 0:29:22 | |
South Pacific, with Kiri Te Kanawa. | 0:29:22 | 0:29:26 | |
Sarah's voice is as pure and powerful as beautiful as Kiri's soprano. | 0:29:26 | 0:29:30 | |
# Sweet and clear as can be | 0:29:30 | 0:29:38 | |
# Come to me | 0:29:40 | 0:29:43 | |
# Here am I | 0:29:43 | 0:29:46 | |
# Come to me | 0:29:46 | 0:29:53 | |
# If you try You will find me | 0:29:53 | 0:30:00 | |
# Where the sky meets the sea | 0:30:00 | 0:30:05 | |
# Here am I your special island... # | 0:30:05 | 0:30:10 | |
I wanted to be her manager. | 0:30:10 | 0:30:12 | |
# Come to me... # | 0:30:12 | 0:30:14 | |
But Sarah was of | 0:30:14 | 0:30:15 | |
the school that her manager had to be her guy, you know. | 0:30:15 | 0:30:20 | |
And that was her school. | 0:30:20 | 0:30:22 | |
She always felt that way. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:24 | |
And she never found the right guy. | 0:30:24 | 0:30:25 | |
I was not interested in being Sassy's guy. | 0:30:25 | 0:30:30 | |
I respected her as an artist, I thought she was a beautiful woman, | 0:30:30 | 0:30:34 | |
but that wasn't what I wanted, | 0:30:34 | 0:30:36 | |
and so that didn't work. | 0:30:36 | 0:30:39 | |
Sarah was a great artist who also understood modern jazz, | 0:30:41 | 0:30:45 | |
also understood modern harmonies, | 0:30:45 | 0:30:47 | |
because she came up through | 0:30:47 | 0:30:49 | |
the Charlie Parker, Dizzy Gillespie era. | 0:30:49 | 0:30:52 | |
She was THEIR singer. | 0:30:52 | 0:30:53 | |
# I don't know why, but I'm feelin' so sad | 0:30:54 | 0:31:01 | |
# I long to try... # | 0:31:01 | 0:31:04 | |
Just about the first record she made | 0:31:04 | 0:31:06 | |
had Dizzy Gillespie and Charlie Parker on it, | 0:31:06 | 0:31:08 | |
and it was a bebop record. | 0:31:08 | 0:31:09 | |
And in the late '40s, she's singing the sort of thing | 0:31:09 | 0:31:14 | |
that most instrumentalists couldn't get at, let alone singers. | 0:31:14 | 0:31:18 | |
And she never, ever put a foot wrong. | 0:31:18 | 0:31:19 | |
The jazz divas were able to sing | 0:31:22 | 0:31:24 | |
in a way best suited to their individual range and personality | 0:31:24 | 0:31:28 | |
because of technical advances in microphone technology. | 0:31:28 | 0:31:32 | |
As these sculptural devices became more sensitive, | 0:31:32 | 0:31:36 | |
so the jazz voice could become more detailed and powerful | 0:31:36 | 0:31:40 | |
or more conversational and minimal. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:43 | |
Someone like Billie, who came up in the age of the microphone, | 0:31:43 | 0:31:48 | |
couldn't belt out loudly. | 0:31:48 | 0:31:51 | |
But they could... | 0:31:51 | 0:31:52 | |
they could bring it down to like what Marlon Brando did later, which | 0:31:52 | 0:31:56 | |
is just to that, you know, that essence of the slightest movement. | 0:31:56 | 0:31:59 | |
No jazz diva embraced the microphone age | 0:32:01 | 0:32:03 | |
more than Peggy Lee whose solo career motto was, | 0:32:03 | 0:32:07 | |
"Softly, with feeling," | 0:32:07 | 0:32:09 | |
which she coupled with method-actor minimalism. | 0:32:09 | 0:32:12 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:32:12 | 0:32:15 | |
# Never know how much I love you | 0:32:15 | 0:32:18 | |
# Never know how much I care | 0:32:18 | 0:32:21 | |
# When you put your arms around me | 0:32:21 | 0:32:23 | |
# I get a fever that's so hard to bear | 0:32:23 | 0:32:26 | |
# You give me fever... # | 0:32:26 | 0:32:28 | |
She kind of toned it down and made it almost conversational | 0:32:29 | 0:32:33 | |
and made these rowdy clubs that she sang in come to her. | 0:32:33 | 0:32:37 | |
She's almost purring at you, isn't she? | 0:32:37 | 0:32:40 | |
And the sound is so intimate. | 0:32:40 | 0:32:43 | |
# Fever, in the morning | 0:32:43 | 0:32:46 | |
# Fever all through the night... # | 0:32:46 | 0:32:49 | |
Stillness. And... | 0:32:49 | 0:32:52 | |
she's just, like...like that. | 0:32:52 | 0:32:55 | |
And her hands, she's like, still. | 0:32:55 | 0:32:57 | |
# You give me fever | 0:32:57 | 0:32:59 | |
# When you kiss me | 0:33:01 | 0:33:02 | |
# Fever when you hold me tight | 0:33:02 | 0:33:05 | |
# Fever... # | 0:33:05 | 0:33:07 | |
Just two pieces. Bass and drums. | 0:33:07 | 0:33:10 | |
# Fever, ba-dum! # | 0:33:10 | 0:33:11 | |
That was her arrangement, you know. | 0:33:13 | 0:33:15 | |
She would whisper when she sang, | 0:33:17 | 0:33:19 | |
and she sang beautiful, slow tempos | 0:33:19 | 0:33:21 | |
and she sold the lyrics. | 0:33:21 | 0:33:23 | |
And she made you believe it. | 0:33:23 | 0:33:25 | |
Peggy Lee believed that every song was a little story that had to | 0:33:30 | 0:33:34 | |
be acted out and stage-produced. | 0:33:34 | 0:33:37 | |
The person she chose to do this was Miss Peggy Lee, | 0:33:37 | 0:33:41 | |
a persona she constructed right down to the last detail. | 0:33:41 | 0:33:46 | |
We would go into the dressing room | 0:33:46 | 0:33:48 | |
and she would start her transformation with make-up, | 0:33:48 | 0:33:51 | |
with hair, with the costume, | 0:33:51 | 0:33:54 | |
and I would watch this person, | 0:33:54 | 0:33:56 | |
my grandmother, | 0:33:56 | 0:33:58 | |
become Miss Peggy Lee, the star. | 0:33:58 | 0:34:00 | |
And then I would run around, | 0:34:00 | 0:34:02 | |
go out on...into the theatre, | 0:34:02 | 0:34:04 | |
and watch her, and it was amazing. | 0:34:04 | 0:34:08 | |
I have to say, it was amazing for me. | 0:34:11 | 0:34:14 | |
And then she'd come off stage, | 0:34:14 | 0:34:16 | |
and she would just be high. | 0:34:16 | 0:34:18 | |
And then she'd say, "Oh, I'm just famished," | 0:34:21 | 0:34:24 | |
and we would go to McDonald's | 0:34:24 | 0:34:26 | |
or Carl's Jr or something. Wendy's. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:29 | |
But Peggy Lee was white. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:36 | |
Popping out for a bite to eat after the show hadn't always been an option | 0:34:36 | 0:34:40 | |
for those singers who were black, however famous they were. | 0:34:40 | 0:34:44 | |
Racism was still at the very dark heart of jazz in America in the '60s. | 0:34:44 | 0:34:50 | |
The struggles for African-American female singers were doubly daunting. | 0:34:50 | 0:34:54 | |
Well, they are queens. | 0:34:57 | 0:35:00 | |
I mean, they're royalty in American culture, | 0:35:00 | 0:35:03 | |
but they're royalty | 0:35:03 | 0:35:06 | |
during a fractious time in society, | 0:35:06 | 0:35:10 | |
before desegregation in America. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:13 | |
To be a black woman in America before the civil rights movement, | 0:35:16 | 0:35:19 | |
and even during the civil rights movement, is... | 0:35:19 | 0:35:21 | |
has got to be something that's unimaginable today. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:24 | |
They'd be people that would be worshipped around the world | 0:35:24 | 0:35:29 | |
and couldn't go into a restaurant in America. | 0:35:29 | 0:35:32 | |
This created tremendous psychological problems. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:36 | |
These ladies experienced that, even though they are divas. | 0:35:38 | 0:35:41 | |
They could be well-known, selling, you know, tens of thousands | 0:35:41 | 0:35:45 | |
of records, and they're going to have these moments every day. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:48 | |
And if there's trouble in the land... | 0:35:48 | 0:35:50 | |
..then you gotta sing about it. You've got to. | 0:35:52 | 0:35:55 | |
And that's what these women did. | 0:35:55 | 0:35:57 | |
# Southern trees | 0:36:02 | 0:36:05 | |
# Bear strange fruit | 0:36:06 | 0:36:11 | |
# Blood on the leaves | 0:36:14 | 0:36:17 | |
# And blood at the root... # | 0:36:19 | 0:36:22 | |
Those singers can deliver performances | 0:36:22 | 0:36:26 | |
that reach a level of emotional uneasiness | 0:36:26 | 0:36:31 | |
for the audience that is profound. | 0:36:31 | 0:36:33 | |
# Black bodies swingin' | 0:36:33 | 0:36:36 | |
# In the Southern breeze | 0:36:38 | 0:36:40 | |
# Strange fruit hangin' | 0:36:42 | 0:36:45 | |
# From the poplar trees. # | 0:36:46 | 0:36:51 | |
Protest music. Jazz has always been protest music, | 0:36:51 | 0:36:54 | |
and it's supposed to be. | 0:36:54 | 0:36:56 | |
Sometimes, when we listen to Ella Fitzgerald, | 0:36:59 | 0:37:02 | |
we hear her sunny disposition. | 0:37:02 | 0:37:04 | |
# Oooh... # | 0:37:04 | 0:37:07 | |
We think that we're not hearing | 0:37:07 | 0:37:08 | |
so much of a reflection of the tough times of the eras | 0:37:08 | 0:37:12 | |
when we hear someone like Billie Holiday, but I think if we take | 0:37:12 | 0:37:14 | |
a step back and think, "What did it take for Ella to present that face?" | 0:37:14 | 0:37:19 | |
I think, with all these iconic figures we're talking about, | 0:37:21 | 0:37:24 | |
whether it's Billie, Sarah, Ella, all those great | 0:37:24 | 0:37:26 | |
African-American women who were trailblazers, | 0:37:26 | 0:37:30 | |
anything and everything that we saw of them on the stage spoke | 0:37:30 | 0:37:33 | |
to their condition of the time. | 0:37:33 | 0:37:34 | |
This is either by omission, | 0:37:34 | 0:37:37 | |
or you have to dig deeper underneath the surface to see these things. | 0:37:37 | 0:37:42 | |
The youngest of our jazz queens found omission impossible. | 0:37:43 | 0:37:47 | |
You don't need to dig very far beneath the surface of Nina Simone's | 0:37:47 | 0:37:50 | |
music to find the racial indignation of the last of the great jazz divas. | 0:37:50 | 0:37:55 | |
# I don't belong here I don't belong there | 0:37:55 | 0:37:59 | |
# I've even stopped believing in prayer | 0:37:59 | 0:38:02 | |
# Almost but not quite... # | 0:38:02 | 0:38:06 | |
She took the race issue on in that she actually became involved | 0:38:06 | 0:38:11 | |
with the whole civil rights movement. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:13 | |
She took it on at a very different level. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:16 | |
# Well, that's just the trouble | 0:38:16 | 0:38:18 | |
# Do it slow | 0:38:18 | 0:38:19 | |
# Desegregation | 0:38:19 | 0:38:21 | |
# Do it slow | 0:38:21 | 0:38:22 | |
# Mass participation | 0:38:22 | 0:38:24 | |
# Do it slow | 0:38:24 | 0:38:25 | |
# Unification | 0:38:25 | 0:38:27 | |
# Do it slow | 0:38:27 | 0:38:28 | |
# Do things gradually | 0:38:28 | 0:38:31 | |
# Do it slow | 0:38:31 | 0:38:32 | |
# But bring more tragedy | 0:38:32 | 0:38:34 | |
# Do it slow | 0:38:34 | 0:38:35 | |
# Why don't you see it? Why don't you feel it? | 0:38:35 | 0:38:37 | |
# I don't know, I don't know... # | 0:38:37 | 0:38:42 | |
There was a woman who had enough balls to talk about the things | 0:38:42 | 0:38:45 | |
that nobody wanted to talk about and do it in a way that it wasn't | 0:38:45 | 0:38:47 | |
entertainment tonight and it wasn't television, it was real, | 0:38:47 | 0:38:50 | |
and it was significant. | 0:38:50 | 0:38:52 | |
# You don't have to live next to me, love | 0:38:52 | 0:38:55 | |
# Just give me my equality, love | 0:38:55 | 0:38:58 | |
# Everybody knows about Mississippi | 0:38:58 | 0:39:01 | |
# Everybody knows about Alabama | 0:39:01 | 0:39:05 | |
# Everybody knows about Mississippi | 0:39:05 | 0:39:08 | |
# Goddam. # | 0:39:08 | 0:39:13 | |
Here's somebody with a great talent and a great genius | 0:39:14 | 0:39:17 | |
and a great composing genius, | 0:39:17 | 0:39:18 | |
who took a social stand to the detriment of her pop career. | 0:39:18 | 0:39:24 | |
She was being moulded to be like Sarah Vaughan or Ella Fitzgerald. | 0:39:24 | 0:39:29 | |
There was a song she sang after the death of Martin Luther King. | 0:39:31 | 0:39:37 | |
There was...such disgust in her voice, she gets to this lyric, | 0:39:39 | 0:39:46 | |
"He was not a violent man." | 0:39:46 | 0:39:48 | |
-SOFTLY: -# He was not a violent man... # | 0:39:49 | 0:39:53 | |
Now, she could sing it that way. But she sang it... | 0:39:53 | 0:39:58 | |
# He was not | 0:39:58 | 0:39:59 | |
# A vi-i-i-i-olent man... # | 0:39:59 | 0:40:02 | |
She just...she just squalls all the juice she possibly could. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:07 | |
# He was not a vi-i-i-olent man | 0:40:07 | 0:40:12 | |
# Tell me, folks, if you can | 0:40:14 | 0:40:17 | |
# Just why | 0:40:20 | 0:40:22 | |
# Why was he shot down the other day? # | 0:40:22 | 0:40:27 | |
The voice is sometimes not beautiful. | 0:40:28 | 0:40:31 | |
She is not easy to listen to sometimes, sometimes she is | 0:40:31 | 0:40:34 | |
so in the space of whatever it is she is telling you, that there is no | 0:40:34 | 0:40:39 | |
distance between the information and you, and it rips your heart out. | 0:40:39 | 0:40:44 | |
# And did Martin Luther King | 0:40:44 | 0:40:47 | |
# Just die | 0:40:47 | 0:40:49 | |
# In vain? # | 0:40:49 | 0:40:52 | |
Nina Simone didn't have a choice. | 0:40:54 | 0:40:56 | |
Ella Fitzgerald didn't have a choice. | 0:40:56 | 0:40:58 | |
They do what they do, so when one tries to figure out, "Did they trade | 0:40:59 | 0:41:04 | |
"this off at the expense of that?" They didn't have a choice. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:08 | |
Nina Simone's voice wouldn't work, her brain wouldn't work, | 0:41:09 | 0:41:13 | |
her heart wouldn't beat, | 0:41:13 | 0:41:14 | |
if she wasn't going to sing Mississippi Goddam. | 0:41:14 | 0:41:17 | |
I choose Nina over all of them because she was crazy enough | 0:41:17 | 0:41:20 | |
to do it, and she was sane enough to make it sound right. | 0:41:20 | 0:41:23 | |
She was also the kind of woman who, apparently she put | 0:41:23 | 0:41:25 | |
a man at gunpoint to return a pair of shoes, which is pretty crazy. | 0:41:25 | 0:41:29 | |
I like that story. | 0:41:29 | 0:41:30 | |
She was proud, but the jazz diva proved that love has no pride. | 0:41:36 | 0:41:40 | |
Although she transcended her time, she seemed to be its victim | 0:41:41 | 0:41:45 | |
when it came to romance. | 0:41:45 | 0:41:47 | |
Behind all the poise was the pain of man trouble, which she | 0:41:52 | 0:41:56 | |
endured like a sacrificial heroine for those audiences | 0:41:56 | 0:42:00 | |
that preferred their jazz divas coloured blue. | 0:42:00 | 0:42:03 | |
Billie Holiday was a masochist. | 0:42:05 | 0:42:07 | |
Literally, a masochist, from what I understand. | 0:42:07 | 0:42:10 | |
She chose bad husbands, she chose bad lovers, my next-door neighbour, | 0:42:10 | 0:42:14 | |
the late Billy Taylor, told me a story of seeing her | 0:42:14 | 0:42:17 | |
beat up once by her manager husband in a club in front of other people. | 0:42:17 | 0:42:21 | |
Even though she has always been reported to be at the very | 0:42:22 | 0:42:26 | |
least bisexual, if not often gay, she loved men, | 0:42:26 | 0:42:30 | |
she liked having a man in her life. | 0:42:30 | 0:42:33 | |
And she chose the worst possible man, I mean, | 0:42:33 | 0:42:36 | |
she just chose one thug after another. | 0:42:36 | 0:42:39 | |
Sarah Vaughan, whom I knew quite well, did not do a lot better. | 0:42:41 | 0:42:45 | |
She just seemed to choose men who would exploit her. | 0:42:45 | 0:42:49 | |
I'm going to say something that will make a lot of women very unhappy. | 0:42:50 | 0:42:54 | |
But all those singers, every one of them, needed a man. | 0:42:56 | 0:42:59 | |
They needed a man behind them. | 0:43:01 | 0:43:02 | |
You need that support, and for a man to take that time to give you | 0:43:04 | 0:43:08 | |
that support means he doesn't have his own life. | 0:43:08 | 0:43:11 | |
They were taken advantage of. | 0:43:13 | 0:43:15 | |
They all ran into problems because these guys looked upon them | 0:43:16 | 0:43:20 | |
as meal tickets, and they needed that. | 0:43:20 | 0:43:24 | |
I don't know why, but philosophically, | 0:43:25 | 0:43:28 | |
psychologically, they needed that. | 0:43:28 | 0:43:31 | |
What is interesting about all of them | 0:43:31 | 0:43:33 | |
is the number of times they all get married. | 0:43:33 | 0:43:36 | |
You know, there is a big thing going on with marrying a lot. | 0:43:36 | 0:43:40 | |
I think that is partly because that is protection, there is | 0:43:40 | 0:43:43 | |
a lot of marrying your musicians. | 0:43:43 | 0:43:47 | |
Peggy Lee's first marriage was to Benny Goodman's guitarist, | 0:43:47 | 0:43:50 | |
Dave Barbour. They had a child. | 0:43:50 | 0:43:53 | |
But that turned out to be only the first of four marriages | 0:43:53 | 0:43:56 | |
for Peggy, who was likely to greet a husband with | 0:43:56 | 0:43:59 | |
the unwelcome news that dinner was not ready, but the song was. | 0:43:59 | 0:44:04 | |
She really did want that white picket fence, | 0:44:06 | 0:44:09 | |
that dream of everlasting love, a family, she really wanted that. | 0:44:09 | 0:44:17 | |
# Some day | 0:44:17 | 0:44:20 | |
# We'll build a home on a hilltop high | 0:44:20 | 0:44:25 | |
# You and I... # | 0:44:27 | 0:44:29 | |
She wanted that dream of the folks who live on the hill, | 0:44:29 | 0:44:32 | |
that song was her favourite song, and it's not surprising, | 0:44:32 | 0:44:35 | |
it's just about this love that grows old together and stays together. | 0:44:35 | 0:44:42 | |
# And we'll be pleased to be called | 0:44:42 | 0:44:48 | |
# The folks who live on the hill. # | 0:44:49 | 0:44:55 | |
DOG BARKS | 0:44:55 | 0:44:57 | |
That, unfortunately, is not what she got. | 0:44:57 | 0:45:00 | |
But what she did get was this unbelievable career. | 0:45:00 | 0:45:06 | |
So the choice, life or art, isn't straightforward | 0:45:07 | 0:45:11 | |
because what you get from art is life. | 0:45:11 | 0:45:16 | |
Meanwhile, Billie Holiday made private disappointments | 0:45:20 | 0:45:23 | |
the very subject of increasingly painful public performances | 0:45:23 | 0:45:27 | |
in the unflinching glare of the spotlight. | 0:45:27 | 0:45:31 | |
# But I love him | 0:45:31 | 0:45:33 | |
# I don't know why I should | 0:45:36 | 0:45:40 | |
# He isn't true | 0:45:42 | 0:45:45 | |
# He beats me too | 0:45:48 | 0:45:51 | |
# What can I do? | 0:45:55 | 0:45:59 | |
I do sing it and I always preface it with saying, | 0:46:02 | 0:46:05 | |
"Well, it's of its time, you know." It's still a great song. | 0:46:05 | 0:46:09 | |
# He'll never know | 0:46:09 | 0:46:11 | |
# How my life is just despair... # | 0:46:12 | 0:46:16 | |
And you know, "sometimes he beats me" is in the lyric. | 0:46:16 | 0:46:20 | |
And, "I don't know why I should, he isn't good. | 0:46:20 | 0:46:23 | |
"He isn't true, he beats me too, but what can I do? | 0:46:23 | 0:46:26 | |
"Oh, my man, I love him so." | 0:46:26 | 0:46:28 | |
You think... | 0:46:28 | 0:46:29 | |
SHE EXHALES | 0:46:29 | 0:46:30 | |
# What's the difference if I say...? # | 0:46:30 | 0:46:34 | |
I always imagine outside the spotlight, the circle of rather | 0:46:34 | 0:46:38 | |
blank-faced, mild-looking men rather interested by this, | 0:46:38 | 0:46:43 | |
and the women, I think, just think, "Thank God it's not me." | 0:46:43 | 0:46:48 | |
# For whatever my man is | 0:46:48 | 0:46:51 | |
# I'm his. # | 0:46:53 | 0:46:57 | |
The question is, what were people... | 0:46:57 | 0:46:59 | |
what was the attraction for people? | 0:46:59 | 0:47:02 | |
Schadenfreude is one of the more disturbing aspects of the human condition, | 0:47:02 | 0:47:08 | |
that we get pleasure out of pain, other people's pain. | 0:47:08 | 0:47:13 | |
They're singing the songs, the emotions, | 0:47:13 | 0:47:18 | |
and sometimes the solutions to life's problems. | 0:47:18 | 0:47:23 | |
They're sometimes solving it, the question, | 0:47:23 | 0:47:29 | |
solving the problem for people. | 0:47:29 | 0:47:31 | |
One person has a hard time and the other person in the audience | 0:47:31 | 0:47:34 | |
listens to it and hears those words, like, | 0:47:34 | 0:47:37 | |
Ray Charles, Hard Times, man. | 0:47:37 | 0:47:38 | |
# My mother told me Before she passed away | 0:47:38 | 0:47:42 | |
# Said darling when I'm gone Don't forget to pray | 0:47:42 | 0:47:46 | |
# Cos there'll be hard times Hard times | 0:47:46 | 0:47:51 | |
# Who knows better than I? # | 0:47:51 | 0:47:53 | |
You know, when he says that, I listen to that and I go, "Man!" | 0:47:53 | 0:47:56 | |
Well, I soon found out just what she meant, | 0:47:56 | 0:47:58 | |
had to sell all my clothes just to pay the rent. | 0:47:58 | 0:48:01 | |
I did that eight times in my life. | 0:48:01 | 0:48:03 | |
Man, when someone writes a lyric that is real, everybody understands. | 0:48:03 | 0:48:09 | |
I mean, it sounds like you're talking about the Greek Furies | 0:48:11 | 0:48:14 | |
all of a sudden and we're going back to the whole problem | 0:48:14 | 0:48:17 | |
of catharsis, you know, that we all need that. | 0:48:17 | 0:48:21 | |
We need to believe in these stories | 0:48:21 | 0:48:25 | |
in order to purge the pain from our own lives. | 0:48:25 | 0:48:30 | |
Another way to purge the pain from your life was to develop | 0:48:34 | 0:48:38 | |
a keen appetite for all kinds of drugs - | 0:48:38 | 0:48:41 | |
jazz's default setting in the bad old days. | 0:48:41 | 0:48:45 | |
I think singers in the '50s would be stumbling upon all sorts | 0:48:45 | 0:48:49 | |
of stuff going on, you know, heroin was rife, cocaine, | 0:48:49 | 0:48:53 | |
you know, everybody was smoking reefers, everybody. | 0:48:53 | 0:48:57 | |
I think you'd have to dodge it to come out unscathed, you know. | 0:48:57 | 0:49:02 | |
In the '30s and '40s, and I've interviewed a lot of musicians on this, | 0:49:04 | 0:49:08 | |
the idea that heroin was suicide was not genuinely known. | 0:49:08 | 0:49:12 | |
It really wasn't. | 0:49:12 | 0:49:13 | |
People thought that they could take it and if they exercised a lot | 0:49:13 | 0:49:17 | |
and ate well, that it was less dangerous than alcohol. | 0:49:17 | 0:49:21 | |
'It's one extreme to the other.' | 0:49:24 | 0:49:26 | |
You're either really busy or not have anything to do whatsoever, | 0:49:26 | 0:49:30 | |
you're teetotal or you're getting drunk all the time. | 0:49:30 | 0:49:34 | |
Loads of different things, it's all... | 0:49:36 | 0:49:39 | |
There's one extreme to the other in most musicians' lives. | 0:49:39 | 0:49:43 | |
As with everything else in the world of the jazz diva, Billie Holiday | 0:49:46 | 0:49:50 | |
fulfilled the role of drug addict better than any other jazz queen, | 0:49:50 | 0:49:54 | |
with fellow heroin user Annie Ross | 0:49:54 | 0:49:57 | |
sometimes on hand to take care of her. | 0:49:57 | 0:50:00 | |
When she was really bad... | 0:50:00 | 0:50:02 | |
..and when she wasn't, I would go up to her little apartment. | 0:50:04 | 0:50:08 | |
I remember I even gave her a bath because she said, "I'm too weak," | 0:50:10 | 0:50:15 | |
I said, "I'll do it," and I would sit by the bed, so that as she smoked, | 0:50:15 | 0:50:22 | |
she wouldn't burn the place up, | 0:50:22 | 0:50:25 | |
and she would watch cartoons. She loved cartoons. | 0:50:25 | 0:50:30 | |
And I was happy to do it. I mean, this was my idol. | 0:50:32 | 0:50:37 | |
Did Billie need to be on drugs? Did Lester Young need to be on drugs? | 0:50:38 | 0:50:43 | |
Did Charlie Parker need to be on drugs? | 0:50:43 | 0:50:46 | |
You know...maybe they did. | 0:50:48 | 0:50:51 | |
Maybe they did. Maybe that was part. | 0:50:53 | 0:50:56 | |
And...all I know is they could play a song and make you cry. | 0:50:57 | 0:51:03 | |
Thank you. And now I'd like to do a little tune, | 0:51:05 | 0:51:08 | |
entitled Please Don't Talk About Me When I'm Gone. | 0:51:08 | 0:51:12 | |
The last time I saw Billie live, her voice was light and... | 0:51:20 | 0:51:26 | |
"Ooooh, what a little moonlight can do to you" | 0:51:26 | 0:51:29 | |
and you know, lovable, huggable Emily Brown, | 0:51:29 | 0:51:32 | |
Miss Brown, she was singing all those songs. | 0:51:32 | 0:51:34 | |
# Please don't talk about me when I'm gone | 0:51:34 | 0:51:37 | |
# Though our friendship ceases from now on... # | 0:51:40 | 0:51:45 | |
I says, "Lady, you sound better than I've ever heard you," | 0:51:47 | 0:51:50 | |
and she says, "I'm straight now, George, I'm straight." | 0:51:50 | 0:51:54 | |
Talking about drugs. | 0:51:54 | 0:51:56 | |
"You've got to help me." | 0:51:56 | 0:51:58 | |
# It makes no difference | 0:51:58 | 0:52:02 | |
# How I carry on... # | 0:52:02 | 0:52:04 | |
Four weeks later, she was dead. | 0:52:04 | 0:52:07 | |
# Please don't talk about me when I'm gone. # | 0:52:07 | 0:52:11 | |
Lady was dead at 44. Long live the Lady. | 0:52:17 | 0:52:20 | |
She was, of course, the first of the great jazz divas to die on the job | 0:52:23 | 0:52:27 | |
but they all had to face the treachery of their own unique instrument, | 0:52:27 | 0:52:32 | |
their body, letting them down. | 0:52:32 | 0:52:34 | |
# I know that I'll | 0:52:42 | 0:52:47 | |
# Be contented with yesterday's memories | 0:52:47 | 0:52:54 | |
# Knowing you'll think of me | 0:52:57 | 0:53:03 | |
# Once in a while. # | 0:53:03 | 0:53:10 | |
In the latter years, her highs were getting lower and lower, | 0:53:12 | 0:53:16 | |
and her lows were also not there. | 0:53:16 | 0:53:18 | |
She was only singing in the middle range of her voice. | 0:53:18 | 0:53:22 | |
Ella Fitzgerald, with only this much, | 0:53:22 | 0:53:24 | |
saying more than anybody else. | 0:53:24 | 0:53:27 | |
She lived for it. | 0:53:27 | 0:53:29 | |
And even though she'd nearly smoked herself to death | 0:53:29 | 0:53:33 | |
and had both her legs amputated and she's wheeled onto the stage, | 0:53:33 | 0:53:37 | |
she's still doing it. | 0:53:37 | 0:53:39 | |
Sarah Vaughan had that funny joke. | 0:53:42 | 0:53:44 | |
She'd be perspiring, she'd have a drink of water, | 0:53:44 | 0:53:46 | |
and she'd say, "Every night, I come up here looking like Lena Horne | 0:53:46 | 0:53:49 | |
"and I go home looking like Sarah Vaughan." | 0:53:49 | 0:53:53 | |
And, you know, so she would make fun of that. She became heavier. | 0:53:53 | 0:53:57 | |
She became more diva-like. But she was Sarah Vaughan. | 0:53:57 | 0:54:00 | |
And she could get away with that because her genius | 0:54:00 | 0:54:02 | |
was so undeniable. | 0:54:02 | 0:54:05 | |
# We seem | 0:54:05 | 0:54:09 | |
# Like passing strangers now | 0:54:09 | 0:54:13 | |
# How can you hurry by? | 0:54:15 | 0:54:20 | |
# There were never two who loved | 0:54:22 | 0:54:28 | |
# Half as much as you and I... # | 0:54:28 | 0:54:33 | |
# Don't look for me... # | 0:54:33 | 0:54:39 | |
Peggy Lee decided to keep Miss Peggy Lee the performer alive | 0:54:39 | 0:54:44 | |
until the bitter end. | 0:54:44 | 0:54:46 | |
You can still be running a fever when you're virtually bedridden. | 0:54:46 | 0:54:50 | |
She arrived in a limousine. | 0:54:50 | 0:54:52 | |
And they wheeled out this wheelchair in sequins! | 0:54:52 | 0:54:58 | |
# Don't smoke... # | 0:54:58 | 0:55:01 | |
It was covered in sequins! | 0:55:01 | 0:55:02 | |
# ..in bed. # | 0:55:02 | 0:55:04 | |
And she came in, she went, "Thank you. | 0:55:04 | 0:55:07 | |
"Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you." | 0:55:07 | 0:55:09 | |
And they announced, "Miss Peggy Lee." | 0:55:09 | 0:55:13 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:55:13 | 0:55:14 | |
The lights went down, the lights came back up, and like magic, | 0:55:14 | 0:55:20 | |
there she was. | 0:55:20 | 0:55:21 | |
Now, imagine this woman, | 0:55:21 | 0:55:24 | |
having had a stroke, wearing a blonde pageboy wig, | 0:55:24 | 0:55:29 | |
big glasses with rhinestone so you were distracted from her face a bit. | 0:55:29 | 0:55:34 | |
And she started to sing Fever. | 0:55:34 | 0:55:37 | |
MUSIC: "Fever" | 0:55:37 | 0:55:39 | |
She used to always start with her hand out like that. | 0:55:42 | 0:55:44 | |
Always when she started that song. | 0:55:44 | 0:55:47 | |
Well, she'd clearly had a stroke, so what they did, | 0:55:47 | 0:55:50 | |
they had the drummer play the sound and her hand lightly snap, | 0:55:50 | 0:55:55 | |
but there was the drummer, like, right on time, | 0:55:55 | 0:55:59 | |
-and when she got to the point where she said... -# Fever... # | 0:55:59 | 0:56:01 | |
..she held both hands up like that | 0:56:01 | 0:56:03 | |
and then brought them down in a series of steps! | 0:56:03 | 0:56:06 | |
She no longer had the fluidity or the timing | 0:56:06 | 0:56:09 | |
in terms of her hand movements, | 0:56:09 | 0:56:11 | |
but still you learn how you can adjust a performance. | 0:56:11 | 0:56:15 | |
I think it's really hard for a singer | 0:56:16 | 0:56:19 | |
to age in front of us on stage, | 0:56:19 | 0:56:23 | |
when you're a beauty and you're singing about desire | 0:56:23 | 0:56:28 | |
and you're trying to be sexy | 0:56:28 | 0:56:30 | |
and you're singing Fever and Big Spender and I'm A Woman... | 0:56:30 | 0:56:34 | |
# I can wash out 44 pairs of socks and have 'em hangin' on the line | 0:56:34 | 0:56:39 | |
# I can starch and iron two dozen shirts | 0:56:41 | 0:56:43 | |
# 'Fore you can count from one to nine... # | 0:56:43 | 0:56:46 | |
But then do you stop? She didn't want to stop singing. | 0:56:47 | 0:56:52 | |
But in truth, it was curtains for the jazz diva by the mid-'60s. | 0:56:56 | 0:57:01 | |
She was consigned to history by the triumph of pop and rock, | 0:57:01 | 0:57:06 | |
leaving her struggling to remain relevant, | 0:57:06 | 0:57:08 | |
forced to cover the odd Beatles song. | 0:57:08 | 0:57:11 | |
# Been a hard day's night | 0:57:13 | 0:57:16 | |
# I should be sleeping like a log | 0:57:16 | 0:57:20 | |
# But when I get home to you I find the things that you do | 0:57:20 | 0:57:23 | |
# Will make me feel all right... # | 0:57:23 | 0:57:26 | |
# And he's got another woman now... # | 0:57:28 | 0:57:31 | |
But Nina Simone, who had always embraced every kind of music, | 0:57:31 | 0:57:36 | |
made it across the bridge from the lost world of the jazz diva | 0:57:36 | 0:57:39 | |
to soul, R&B, gospel and beyond. | 0:57:39 | 0:57:43 | |
# Hey, lordy, lordy, mama | 0:57:43 | 0:57:47 | |
# What you gonna do about it? | 0:57:47 | 0:57:52 | |
# Hey, lordy, mama... # | 0:57:52 | 0:57:53 | |
There's a lot of singers and a lot of people in the world, | 0:57:53 | 0:57:56 | |
but nobody reminds me of Nina. | 0:57:56 | 0:57:57 | |
# Tell me what you gonna do now? What you gonna do? # | 0:57:57 | 0:58:02 | |
I wish I could have met her | 0:58:02 | 0:58:04 | |
and hung with her and got in all kinds of trouble with her. | 0:58:04 | 0:58:07 | |
That would have been my sister. I'm not in trouble enough. | 0:58:07 | 0:58:10 | |
I'd like to be in trouble with Nina Simone. | 0:58:10 | 0:58:12 | |
# And don't know how to treat him... # | 0:58:12 | 0:58:16 | |
Nina is just a big soul that nobody... | 0:58:16 | 0:58:20 | |
I don't even know how they got her into a casket, | 0:58:20 | 0:58:22 | |
cos her soul was so big, she didn't have a place to go. | 0:58:22 | 0:58:25 | |
You know? | 0:58:25 | 0:58:26 | |
The Ellas, the Sarahs, the Billies, the Dinahs, the Anitas, | 0:58:29 | 0:58:32 | |
the Peggys, they become more and more magical | 0:58:32 | 0:58:35 | |
because we know we're never going to see their like again. | 0:58:35 | 0:58:38 | |
These women were the first, they are the originals and the best. | 0:58:40 | 0:58:44 | |
And I often wonder... why I even bothered doing it, | 0:58:44 | 0:58:50 | |
cos it's been done so well before! | 0:58:50 | 0:58:53 | |
These are women that were artists | 0:58:55 | 0:58:57 | |
and they found a platform to be artists, | 0:58:57 | 0:59:01 | |
and to be heard and to be accepted | 0:59:01 | 0:59:05 | |
and to be subtly, you know, freed. | 0:59:05 | 0:59:09 | |
# Me myself and I | 0:59:09 | 0:59:12 | |
# Are all in love with you | 0:59:12 | 0:59:15 | |
# We all think you're wonderful We do | 0:59:15 | 0:59:20 | |
# Me, myself and I | 0:59:22 | 0:59:24 | |
# Have just one point of view | 0:59:24 | 0:59:28 | |
# We're convinced | 0:59:28 | 0:59:29 | |
# There's no-one else like you... # | 0:59:29 | 0:59:32 | |
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