Sir John Tavener Remembered


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'The whale, marine mammal of the order Cetacea.

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'They comprise three groups, one Archaeoceti,

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'believed to have been derived from the Creodonta,

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'the primitive fossil members of the Carnivora.

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'Their teeth consist of three incisors....'

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Sir John Tavener was unique.

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A composer who found wide acclaim both within

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and way beyond the classical world.

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He had a message, somehow, for the whole world in music.

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In a way, his music opens the door to the spiritual.

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He just had a sense of drama, he knew how to speak to people.

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In this programme, we trace his musical and spiritual odyssey,

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through 40 years of BBC archive.

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From his early experimental music...

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..and highly individual music theatre works....

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..to pieces that have become icons of contemporary British culture.

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MUSIC: "Song For Athene" by John Tavener

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John Tavener believed that his music was dictated directly to him by God.

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It's not music that comes from the human intellect.

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Not music that comes from the human heart because both are very limited.

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But rather something that is revealed to me.

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'It has come, literally, from the breath of God.'

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Sir John Tavener died on the 12th of November 2013. He was 69 years old.

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Tavener wrote music, much of it suffused with

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the spirituality of the Orthodox Church and above all choral music,

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that many listeners experience as a simple, haunting and consoling gift.

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# Gave thee such a tender voice,

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# making all the vales rejoice?

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# Little lamb,

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# who made thee? #

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John Kenneth Tavener was born in 1944,

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in Wembley Park in suburban north London, the son of a builder.

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In 1957, he won a scholarship to Highgate School,

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where a fellow pupil was choral composer John Rutter.

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I think I first remember meeting John Tavener when he was 13

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and I was 12.

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He was a year ahead of me at Highgate School, in North London.

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He stood out from the crowd because even then

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he was well on the way to the six foot six, that he later attained.

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Always had a music case in his hand

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and seemed somehow to belong to another world.

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There was something about him that looked a bit mystical

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and intriguing and interesting, even then.

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He grew up in a Scottish Presbyterian household,

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where faith was fairly austere.

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And I think he never wanted to abandon that faith,

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but he wanted to find outlets for it, which would have more

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sense of theatre and of history and not be so severe and reined in.

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My father used to play the organ and my early memories of him

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playing those soupy hymn tunes influenced me

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in a piece like In Alium, where the

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series or matrix of notes is derived from hymn-like material.

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John Tavener's music takes us

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on a journey far away from his Scottish Presbyterian upbringing.

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CHORAL SINGING

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His musical and spiritual odyssey started in the contemporary,

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modernist, avant-garde style but his love of tradition

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and religious ritual was there from the start.

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SINGING CONTINUES

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In his earliest TV appearances John is gloriously eccentric.

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It's a fascinating glimpse into a composer

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beginning to find his distinctive voice.

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I go for months and months without composing a note.

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I feel totally useless at such times.

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I cannot reconcile the idea of a profession than that of a composer.

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I have no sympathy with the puritanical concept of work

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for its own sake, which perhaps portrays a slightly hippy bias.

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I started my latest piece, Nomine Jesu, after a four month gap.

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It uses five European languages and in the middle

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and most complicated section, I bring in Negro and Asiatic languages.

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And now, a new piece by John Tavener.

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Among the English composers under 30, I think

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his music is like a breath of fresh air.

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It's not doctrinaire, it's emotional

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and it doesn't sound like what I call "the broken biscuit school".

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The piece we're going to hear today is Nomine Jesu.

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John, why is it called that?

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It's based on the word Jesus, the name Jesus.

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Erm, which is sung in different languages, many different languages.

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It's based on a single musical idea, a single chord.

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The instruction I give on the score is "still and sacred"

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and I mean sacred, not in a sanctimonious way,

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because I believe that the word Jesus spoken in these different

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languages does have a magic, sacred significance.

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SINGING CONTINUES

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In 1970, having been signed up to the Beatle's Apple label,

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thanks to his brother, Roger, doing some building work

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for Ringo Starr, Tavener was at the height of classical music cool.

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Apple records released his chaotic cantata, The Whale.

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'The whale, marine mammal of the order Cetacea.

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'They comprise three groups, one Archaeoceti...'

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The very model of happening, even hippyish British modernism.

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I remember the idea of beginning it with a long, boring

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commentary on whales from an encyclopaedia came to me in the bath.

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I got out of the bath, went down to where my books were and pulled

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out the most boring encyclopaedia I could find and looked up the whales.

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That's how it started.

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I decided I wanted to become a composer

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when still a student at the Royal Academy.

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The Whale has been more played than any of my music so far.

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It's a half hour biblical fantasy based on the story of Jonah.

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I finished it here in Tythe Barn,

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in the middle of a heat wave, I remember.

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I had suddenly had been introduced to modernism and I listened to

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Boulez, I listened to Stockhausen,

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I listened to Cage and I was very excited by it.

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I think I've always associated a certain kind of a sound

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with...erm...an element, you know?

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Maybe whether it be rain whether it be a thunder storm.

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It is not something now, towards the end of my life,

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that I can see was an important...

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I mean, the style of The Whale was not a direction

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that I found eventually my music would go in.

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But I loved the experience of writing it and it was a very exciting time.

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Over the coming decades his highly individual life

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and music would be catalogued and even catalysed by the BBC.

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and music would be catalogued and even catalysed by the BBC.

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The number of artists who record for the Apple company is small

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but successful.

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John Lennon, Yoko Ono, Paul McCartney, George Harrison,

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Ringo Starr and a composer whose music is unique and quite

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unlike the sounds of his fellow recording artists, John Tavener.

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We feature a week in the life of John Tavener, his music

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and his friends.

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CHILDREN CHANT

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A great deal of my summer is spent lying on my back in the garden.

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I find that I need

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a great deal of time to sit,

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not necessarily to think

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but things tend to grow at subconscious

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and I work only in very short spurts

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for very short periods of time.

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Very intense periods of time but a great deal of the year is spent,

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in the summer months anyway, lying on my back in this garden.

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Which perhaps my puritanical forefathers

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might have disapproved of.

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I doubt whether they would have approved of my taste in cars.

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I've driven this one for nine months.

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And I use it often as a place to think about my work,

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driving up and down the motorway.

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There's something about the largesse of the car which allows my mind

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to expand more freely than it would in a Mini.

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I've no time for the romantic attitude that the artist has

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to go out and starve.

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This week I've been travelling backwards

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and forwards to the Little Missenden Festival in Buckinghamshire.

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I first became involved with the cultural life of the village

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four years ago when I used the local school children in a performance

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of my Celtic Requiem, commissioned by the London Sinfonietta.

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Which has, incidentally,

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given first performances of almost all my works to date.

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This week, I'm conducting some of the players

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from the London Sinfonietta in a concert for the festival.

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I've written a piece for it, In Memoriam Stravinsky.

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However, the requiem is the composition

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I always associate with the village

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and I often think of it when I come here.

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Celtic Requiem is based on a liturgical mass and is

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played against these children's games, which deal with death.

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CHILDREN CHANT

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CHURCH BELL RINGS

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CHILDREN SING

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I'm often surprised by reactions to my music

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and by the kind of people who like it too.

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I'm very pleased to find...

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I usually find a considerable

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cross-section of the public seem to appreciate what I'm doing.

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A lot of people who like pop music seem to like it.

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SOMBRE MUSIC PLAYS

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LAUGHTER

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The performance ultimately was more accurate than the rehearsal and the

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only minor tension of day was with the hand bell ringer who was

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reluctant to remove his hat.

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The young Tavener was enthralled by the wildness of modernism.

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Two, three...

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This in turn thrilled TV producers.

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This 1973 work was commissioned

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especially for television performance.

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Do you think composers can be free to call upon their inspiration

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under these circumstances?

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I wouldn't have done it unless in some degree,

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whatever you call it, the angel flapped her wings, as it were.

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In 1977, after a profound spiritual crisis,

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Tavener turned to the Greek Orthodox Christian Church,

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with its ancient traditions of icons, mysticism and sung liturgy.

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And that embrace of orthodoxy was a way of letting the voice

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of God speak directly through his music, as Tavener put it.

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And that musical and spiritual ideal created the radical

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and courageous simplicity

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and directness that audiences have found so enchanting ever since.

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But it was also controversial.

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For Tavener's critics, he was reducing his music to

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an accompaniment to candles and icons,

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a commodified spiritual background music.

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But that completely underestimates

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and misrepresents the discipline and austerity and objectivity

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of the music that Tavener would produce in the coming decades.

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SHE SINGS

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By the 1980s, his most important spiritual influence was

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Mother Thekla, a Greek Orthodox abbess,

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who inspired Tavener's work and who lived in monastery in Yorkshire.

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It's strange to think that right in the middle of Yorkshire Moors

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is situated a Greek Orthodox monastery.

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The least expected place that you would imagine to find one.

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I'm an Orthodox Christian and I come

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to Yorkshire, to the monastery,

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as often as I can.

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In a way, it's a kind of spiritual home.

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The monastery's divided into two parts.

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Father Ephraim lives in one part.

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He is the priest and he says the Daily Offices, beginning with Matins

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at 5 o'clock in the morning, usually said alone for the glory of God.

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Not very many Orthodox Christians live in North Yorkshire.

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Erm, and then there's the abbess, Mother Thekla, who now lives alone.

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Originally there were three.

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She really has become a kind of spiritual mother to me.

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I mean, we work on texts together, which I set to music.

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So, it's one of those very lucky coincidences in life,

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not only am I able to unburden my soul to her,

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but also we have this artistic collaboration.

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For your librettist you need someone who's totally selfless

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and she would describe herself as dead to the world.

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In 1989, the BBC commissioned him

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to write his cello concerto The Protecting Veil.

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The soloist was Steven Isserlis

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and the piece was a huge popular success.

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Here was a richly, yet austerely meditative music that

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answered a deep cathartic need in its audience.

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I'll try and play it now.

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In complete contrast, the middle section is solo cello without

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the orchestra at all and right at the bottom and muted.

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A mute to make it sound even softer.

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The Mother of God lamenting

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and then he brings in the middle of this a hymn.

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It is this very romantic piece.

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It is a hymn to the Mother of God,

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but it's like a love song, in a way.

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John really was writing from the heart,

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and so it was a genuinely touching piece.

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I remember somebody wrote to me that her friend was dying of cancer

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and the only thing that would comfort her was The Protecting Vale.

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I was so touched by that letter.

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But also, and he would always be very pleased if I mentioned this,

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just from a musical, compositional point of view,

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it's the most incredibly original writing for the cello.

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I imagine this cello filling the Cathedral of Saint Sophia

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in Constantinople.

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That slowly breathing space.

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One of John's frequent collaborators was the soprano Patricia Rozario.

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They met when she sang the title role

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in John's music theatre work, Mary Of Egypt.

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He always sang his parts.

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He had a curious falsetto, which went amazingly high and then

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he had this robust lower part to his voice, which was quite terrifying.

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HE SINGS

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He always talked about the idea of the voice being primordial,

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you know, to connect with that emotion and space.

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He often wanted the performer to be slightly removed.

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So, it didn't allow you to be over-indulgent, he didn't like that.

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He would often pick you up and say, you know, "Cut it out.

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"Don't try and interpret my music, let it come through you".

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You had to get to that level when it just flowed out of you and it was

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almost like you were standing back

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and letting that mixture of balanced emotion

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and sound come through you.

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It's about an orthodox saint, Mary of Egypt.

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She went into the desert to shed herself

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of all the physical experiences

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that she had lived in her youth as a prostitute.

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And she meets the priest, Zossima.

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Although he was a priest and you'd expect him to be very close to God,

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I think he was arid inside him.

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His spiritual life had reached a very low, dry ebb.

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He finds himself in the desert, searching for renewed life.

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I think when he meets her, she actually is able

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to spark that in him.

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to spark that in him.

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He is drawn to her as a person, but she sort of rejects him

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and makes him aware that it's the spiritual that brings them together,

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not the physical.

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The music is ecstatic, but it's also quite wild.

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There are many layers that you have to go through within yourself

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to be released and to be able to sing it the way that he wanted to hear it.

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These orthodox-inspired works embody the paradox of Tavener's music.

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It's through its rigorous simplicity that it achieves

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a genuine sense of ecstasy, of otherworldly being and feeling.

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I tried to make an icon of light.

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And I framed it with Greek words like phos, which means light.

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# Phos... #

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I used the string trio to represent the human soul, yearning for God.

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# Phos

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# Phos

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# Phos

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# Phos

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# Phos. #

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In 1997, Tavener's music was nominated for that year's

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Mercury Music Prize, including a work called Svyati for solo cello -

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Steven Isserlis again - and choir,

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singing the words of the Orthodox funeral service.

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THEY SING

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APPLAUSE AND CHEERING

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It was also in 1997 that John's music achieved its most iconic moment in global culture

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when his Song For Athene was performed at the end of the funeral

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of Diana, Princess of Wales.

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Good evening. It's been a day like no other.

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A day for the people stunned by the news of Diana's death.

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And a day that rewrote the rules

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about how a grieving nation should react.

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More than a million lined the streets of the capital.

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A heartfelt and emotional goodbye from her family

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and the British people.

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John's music voiced with uncanny, empathetic power

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the feelings of grief of millions watching the service.

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'As the coffin is raised and slowly carried to the Great West Door,

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'preceded by the Dean's verger, the Dean and the ivory cross,

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'we hear John Tavener's haunting setting of words

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'from William Shakespeare's Hamlet with the Orthodox funeral service.

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' "Alleluia. May flights of angels sing thee to thy rest.

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' "Remember me, O Lord, when you come into your kingdom". '

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# Alleluia

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# Alleluia

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# Remember me

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# O Lord

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# When you come

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# into your kingdom

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# Alleluia

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# Alleluia

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# Give rest

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# O Lord

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# To your handmaid

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# Who has fallen asleep

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# Alleluia

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# The choir of saints

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# Have found the well spring of life

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# And door of paradise

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# Alleluia

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# Life

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# A shadow

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# And a dream

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# Alleluia

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# Weeping at the grave

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# Creates the song

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# Alleluia

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# Come

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# Enjoy rewards

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# Enjoy rewards

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# And crowns

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# I have

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# Prepared

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# For you. #

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It moves me that that music, which is very simple

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It moves me that that music, which is very simple

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and very transparent, can have an effect on so many people.

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It came about when a friend of my family's -

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I didn't know her very well - Athene Hariades,

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was killed in a cycling accident.

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And I went to her funeral in the Russian Orthodox Church.

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And I felt somehow that,

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as I've felt often before,

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a person, when they die, leaves some kind of gift.

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You said something very striking in one of the media interviews you did.

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You referred to the one for whom it was originally written - the Princess of Wales -

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and you said, "A song written for two women who died prematurely."

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Then you paused and said, "Apparently prematurely." What did you mean that that?

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I think because I don't believe anything happens by accident,

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I think that our death is known already by God.

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We don't know this master plan.

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It's not for us to know either.

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But I don't think death is an accident.

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This raises a particularly stark question in terms of your own life,

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because you've several times...faced the possibility of death. Yes.

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So when you faced, for example, the heart surgery,

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you say that you accept that

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the time of our death is decided by God. Yes.

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Were you totally accepting or were you frightened?

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No, I wasn't frightened. Erm...

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I mean, I thought I was probably... as Mother Thekla put it,

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"You're far too evil to die, darling."

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I felt in a sense I'd been given another chance.

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Mark Lawson, interviewing the composer in 1998.

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Choral music was something intimate, personal,

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and above all, accessible for John Tavener.

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He wanted his music to be sung by amateur choirs

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and to be enjoyed by everybody.

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# Many years

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# Many

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# Years. #

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I do feel that as a litmus test for a composer,

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if he's a true composer, then he should be able to write music

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that amateur choirs should be able to sing.

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THEY SING

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I think whenever he wrote for choir, he probably felt that he was in

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a sense returning home to his early roots,

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where he'd been a keen member of the Highgate School Choir.

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There's a sense of the voices becoming a family

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and becoming spiritual, really.

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There's a kind of simplicity that taps into the depth of plain chant

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and Russian and Greek Orthodox music.

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John had the gift to be simple, which is why his music has always

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reached out to such a large public,

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of what you might call "ordinary music lovers".

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APPLAUSE

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Another important moment came with the performance of a new work

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in the celebrations in the Millennium Dome,

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right on the threshold of the year 2000.

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# Let there be respect

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# For the Earth

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# O, Lord

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# Peace for Your people

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# O, Lord

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# Love in our lives

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# Delight in the good

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# O, Lord

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# Forgiveness for past wrongs

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# O, Lord. #

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So Tavener's music became the last to be heard

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and televised in the old millennium,

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but it was also among the first to consecrate the next 1,000 years.

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His epic cantata, Fall And Resurrection, was

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premiered at St Paul's cathedral on the 4th of January in the year 2000.

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It was an attempt,

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as the newly knighted Sir John Tavener explained,

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to encompass in brief glimpses the events that had taken place

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since the beginning of time and before time.

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A typically universal ambition.

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The music is quite challenging.

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It really is difficult and it was one of those pieces where the

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soprano part, he really uses the whole range of my voice.

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He uses elements of Indian music,

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as well as taking it up into the stratosphere in a Western way.

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In fact, in the score, there were sections which went unbelievably

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low and in rehearsal, he changed his mind, and I was so relieved!

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CHURCH BELLS RING

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APPLAUSE

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'The bells of St Paul's Cathedral ringing out

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'and will continue for several hours and in a sense, the music goes on.'

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That was quite an amazing experience,

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especially being at St Paul's, in the presence of the Prince of Wales.

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I think John really believed that his composition was a gift from God.

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In 2010, in BBC Four's Sacred Music series, Simon Russell Beale

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and the virtuoso choir The Sixteen undertook a major

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exploration of Sir John's music.

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# In You

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# O Woman full of Grace

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# The angelic choirs

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# And the human race

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# All creation rejoices! #

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John, can we start with the word "tradition" -

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because everything I've read about your music, the word

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"tradition" comes up, but I think you mean something quite specific.

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I do mean it in a broader sense, in so far as I think the reason

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sacred music continues is because people have a thirst for tradition.

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They want to see some continuity and I had to become

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so soaked in tradition, in Orthodox tradition, I learned a bit about

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Indian music, I learned a bit about Arabic music, and various traditions,

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to understand how they worked, and then tried to create a style.

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Every time we perform John's music,

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we have to enter almost into his soul, into his way of thinking.

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His music is very still, it's very difficult to sing, actually.

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He stretches the limits of each voice,

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he takes the basses incredibly low

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and the top voice is taken very high, in a very celestial...

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Everything is mirroring, basically, the world and heaven and hell.

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# And praise be

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# To You. #

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That leads me on to what this music is for. Who is it for?

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Is it for the performers themselves, as an act of worship? Is it for God?

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I wouldn't actually be able to go through the act of composing

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if I didn't think it was finally for God

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that I was doing it, although probably now, sitting

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here on the sofa, I think that's probably rather quite naive of me.

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THEY SING

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Ritual has always been important to me, ever since my father,

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when I was three, I remember, brought home pamphlets of cars and as

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a three-year-old, I stamped on them,

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"Big car, little car, big car, little car, big car, little car, big car,

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"little car, big car, little car,"

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and I did a ritual dance.

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The importance of sacred, was already important to me at three.

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# Kyrie eleison

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# Kyrie eleison... #

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In the mid-1990s,

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John's spiritual journey reached out beyond Orthodox Christianity

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and he began to explore through his music ideas drawn from Islam,

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and he began to explore through his music ideas drawn from Islam,

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from Hinduism and from Buddhism.

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I think the Orthodox Church points towards the East

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and I was born more drawn towards the East and I thought there was

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a possibility through music to bring about some kind of unity.

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# Shunya

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# Shunya

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# Shunya. #

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Shunya was composed in 2004.

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John has said that his intention was to express

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a little of the inexpressible and the Sanskrit word "Shunya",

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which means void or nothingness, is repeatedly intoned as the piece

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unfolds, like a Buddhist ritual over the course of 20 minutes.

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# Shunya

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# Shunya. #

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That really was an idea, to try, in music, rather than in silence,

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to represent the idea of nothingness

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cos it doesn't go anywhere, Shunya. No, no.

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It stands still. That's about the Buddhist concept, really, of nirvana.

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So I think I was always journeying towards this.

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I don't see any point in writing a silent piece of music,

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but I do see a point in the journey towards it.

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SINGING CONTINUES

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One of the most powerful influences in my life,

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and I've not spoken about this before,

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was a Presbyterian minister and he told me,

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"Life is a creeping tragedy - that's why I must be cheerful," and I

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only now at the end of my life begin to understand what he meant by it.

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You know, that life is tragic, but there is the other dimension.

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The brilliance of Tavener's music is that for so many listeners,

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it seems to leave the world permanently, unforgettably altered.

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There was a sense in which he was always

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searching for a spiritual realm, which he would find through music.

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One of the things that we're all hardwired to want is

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something spiritual.

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And he realised that, I think, at an early age and the spirituality

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that has always lain at the heart of his work is profound.

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I think his music has a meditative element to it and yet,

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he has the ability to make it relevant.

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In fact, he said to me, "My music is being played by young

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"people at rave parties." He found that quite amusing.

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As a composer and as a man, he had an extraordinary effect.

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I knew him from the late '80s.

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We had our ups and downs, in friendship, definitely.

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But then, God, when he died...

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You just realise how much he meant to everybody who knew him, really.

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You couldn't know him and not care about him.

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