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LAPPING WATER | 0:00:05 | 0:00:06 | |
We've been a bit short of music this season | 0:00:06 | 0:00:08 | |
and tonight we're going to make up for it. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:10 | |
The piece is called Tubular Bells. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:13 | |
It was written by a young Englishman, Mike Oldfield, when he was 17. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:17 | |
He worked for nine months to compose Tubular Bells, | 0:00:17 | 0:00:19 | |
which takes up both sides of this LP. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:23 | |
Oldfield used 20 instruments to make the original recording | 0:00:23 | 0:00:27 | |
of that music, all of which he played himself. | 0:00:27 | 0:00:29 | |
Grand piano, bass guitar, electric guitar, tin whistle, | 0:00:29 | 0:00:32 | |
Hammond organ, it goes on like the Guinness Book Of Records... | 0:00:32 | 0:00:35 | |
It's like yesterday. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:37 | |
It doesn't feel a long time ago at all. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:40 | |
It was such a special time in my life. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:44 | |
It was strange - right after I'd finished it, I didn't | 0:00:44 | 0:00:49 | |
want to know about it, because it was such a big thing. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:53 | |
That kind of got it out of my system and for about, five, even ten years. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:59 | |
I just...I didn't want to know about it... | 0:00:59 | 0:01:01 | |
I find it astonishing that it's lasted this long and I'm here | 0:01:02 | 0:01:07 | |
talking to you 40 years later all about it. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:09 | |
It's very close and dear to my heart. I put on the old tapes, | 0:01:11 | 0:01:15 | |
and it's like I'm instantly transformed back to 1972, November 1972, | 0:01:15 | 0:01:19 | |
which was when I started working on it. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
MUSIC: "Tubular Bells" by Mike Oldfield | 0:01:22 | 0:01:24 | |
Very few people knew who he was. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:30 | |
It was sort of talked about in reverential tones. | 0:01:30 | 0:01:32 | |
An album with one track on it, over two sides. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:36 | |
You know - that's different. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:39 | |
It sold millions in the first couple of years of release. | 0:01:39 | 0:01:42 | |
But it never stopped selling, so they now quote the figure of 16 million. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:46 | |
In the '70s, everyone had a copy of Tubular Bells. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:50 | |
If you were in any gathering of people for any length | 0:01:50 | 0:01:53 | |
of time, at some point Tubular Bells would come on the turntable. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:56 | |
Virgin going into space most likely wouldn't have existed | 0:01:56 | 0:01:59 | |
if we hadn't had that particular, that particular instrument. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:02 | |
When we made it Michael was a mental wreck. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:08 | |
He would walk round with his eyes wet with tears nearly all the time. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:12 | |
He was in a terrible state. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:14 | |
Mike had a very difficult time with the fame of Tubular Bells. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:20 | |
Lots of people calling him saying, "We want you to do this, | 0:02:20 | 0:02:23 | |
"we want you to do that..." | 0:02:23 | 0:02:27 | |
"No, go away!" | 0:02:27 | 0:02:29 | |
I was born in Reading, in Berkshire. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:48 | |
In 1953. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:50 | |
The name of the road was Western Elms Avenue. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:55 | |
My father was a doctor, a GP. | 0:02:56 | 0:02:58 | |
My mother used to be a nurse, before she had us. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:02 | |
I've got two older siblings, a brother Terry and a sister Sally. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:09 | |
He was very, very lively, very energetic, always dashing around | 0:03:11 | 0:03:15 | |
and...creating things. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:18 | |
He had a gang of friends and he was the ringleader. | 0:03:18 | 0:03:22 | |
Telling jokes and...he was very outgoing, very extrovert. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:26 | |
There was a little bit of music in the family. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:33 | |
There was always a guitar hanging on the wall which my dad would take | 0:03:34 | 0:03:38 | |
down every Christmas and he'd play three songs with three chords. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:42 | |
I, you know, played folk guitar, | 0:03:42 | 0:03:44 | |
so I showed Mike the three basic chords. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:47 | |
And I thought, "Well, that will keep him quiet for a few months." | 0:03:47 | 0:03:50 | |
And I think it was about two weeks later, and he was doing this | 0:03:50 | 0:03:53 | |
extraordinary... | 0:03:53 | 0:03:55 | |
you know, running up and down the keyboard, loads of other chords... | 0:03:55 | 0:03:58 | |
He just taught himself. | 0:03:58 | 0:03:59 | |
When I was about 14, and Mike would have been ten then. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:06 | |
Our mother definitely had some problems. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:09 | |
Because I have a lot of memories from that period. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:11 | |
After me, she got pregnant again. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:17 | |
I remember feeling her tummy and feeling the baby moving in there. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:21 | |
One day, she just wasn't there and she was gone for a long time. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:28 | |
All I know is we had a garage full of baby things, | 0:04:29 | 0:04:32 | |
and the baby didn't come home. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:34 | |
And we were told he had a hole in his heart | 0:04:34 | 0:04:38 | |
and we were spun all sorts of yarns about it. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:41 | |
Our dad told us that the baby had died | 0:04:42 | 0:04:46 | |
and that Mummy wasn't coming home, she was going to go | 0:04:46 | 0:04:49 | |
to a nice place by the sea. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:51 | |
Then later found out that the boy actually survived for a year... | 0:04:54 | 0:04:57 | |
And he didn't have a hole in his heart, it was Down's Syndrome. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:02 | |
His name was David. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:04 | |
He must have been very frail, cos he only survived for a year or so. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:08 | |
But then when she came home eventually, it was then... | 0:05:09 | 0:05:12 | |
..the problems started. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:15 | |
She started being prescribed barbiturates | 0:05:18 | 0:05:22 | |
which are lethally addictive. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:24 | |
The doctors prescribed them for insomnia. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:28 | |
Sometimes I would go into my mother and father's bedroom | 0:05:28 | 0:05:32 | |
and I'd see her sitting on the bed just rocking | 0:05:32 | 0:05:35 | |
backwards and forwards howling. Almost inhuman. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:39 | |
Then it became very dark, very difficult. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:45 | |
We tended to lock ourselves in our bedrooms | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
and do our own things, and, I think, that's when Mike... | 0:05:49 | 0:05:52 | |
really started to hone his craft. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:56 | |
Mike just used to play and play and play. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:02 | |
He sort of shut himself in his room a lot. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:07 | |
And we didn't see him. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:09 | |
Whenever you went into his bedroom, he would be... | 0:06:09 | 0:06:12 | |
incredibly fast guitar-playing and he became a prolific | 0:06:12 | 0:06:16 | |
guitarist very, very quickly. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:18 | |
We used to travel around with my friends playing in folk clubs | 0:06:25 | 0:06:28 | |
from a very early age. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:30 | |
Got paid £2 a night for a gig there. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:34 | |
I was 16/17, and Mike was 12/13. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:40 | |
We all, actually, at this point were looking up to him. | 0:06:42 | 0:06:45 | |
And, I suppose, being envious of the fact he could | 0:06:45 | 0:06:48 | |
just do this so naturally without seemingly having to put in | 0:06:48 | 0:06:51 | |
any effort or work into it, it just came out of him. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:55 | |
And we were all... | 0:06:55 | 0:06:56 | |
busting a gut, as it were, to try and keep up with him. | 0:06:56 | 0:06:59 | |
MUSIC: "A Sad Song For Rosie" by Sallyangie | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
It was 1968 and that was a very, very powerful year | 0:07:12 | 0:07:15 | |
in the '60s. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:17 | |
If you wanted to do something, you tended to just go and do it. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:22 | |
I was just coming up to do my Finals and I said, | 0:07:26 | 0:07:29 | |
"I don't want to do this any more. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:30 | |
"No, I'm going to be a pop singer. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:33 | |
"I'm going to get a record deal, I want to make record now." | 0:07:33 | 0:07:36 | |
So, I was going to go and see Transatlantic. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:38 | |
I had my demo. Walked in to see... | 0:07:38 | 0:07:41 | |
it was Nat Joseph, who was the MD, and he listened and said, | 0:07:41 | 0:07:45 | |
"Oh, that's interesting, that's really unusual. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:48 | |
"Yes, I'm interested. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:50 | |
"But we need some musicians, I don't think just you and the guitar's | 0:07:50 | 0:07:53 | |
"quite enough." | 0:07:53 | 0:07:55 | |
And I said, "No problem, I've got a younger brother, | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
"he's a brilliant guitarist, shall I bring him in?" | 0:07:58 | 0:08:00 | |
MUSIC: "Banquet On The Water" by Sallyangie | 0:08:00 | 0:08:03 | |
I first came across Mike Oldfield when he was in this duo | 0:08:05 | 0:08:08 | |
with his sister, Sally, called the Sallyangie. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:11 | |
He was a very fine guitarist - there's no | 0:08:14 | 0:08:17 | |
getting away from that - and he knew it. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:19 | |
And he wanted to be treated with respect. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:23 | |
And he was only bloody 15, you know, come on! | 0:08:23 | 0:08:25 | |
I remember one particular instance, Sally berated him... | 0:08:30 | 0:08:34 | |
At that time, he thought - "I'll hit 1,000 notes," | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
and Sally would stop and say, | 0:08:38 | 0:08:39 | |
"Too many notes, Michael, you've got too many notes!" | 0:08:39 | 0:08:42 | |
London was full of virtuoso guitar players, and he was such | 0:08:43 | 0:08:48 | |
a precocious little prick, he really got up my nose, | 0:08:48 | 0:08:51 | |
but he had a great potential. I was quite disappointed | 0:08:51 | 0:08:56 | |
that we didn't hear anything more of them. | 0:08:56 | 0:08:58 | |
The demise started | 0:09:02 | 0:09:03 | |
when I had the bright idea that we ought to do a bit of styling. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:07 | |
Unfortunately, went to see a dressmaker and asked her advice, | 0:09:08 | 0:09:12 | |
and she came up with this idea of, er, | 0:09:12 | 0:09:14 | |
pink velvet for me, lime green for Mike. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:18 | |
It didn't go down well at all! | 0:09:19 | 0:09:21 | |
Mike was on to better things by that time! | 0:09:22 | 0:09:25 | |
I next came across Mike when he joined Kevin Ayers' band, | 0:09:35 | 0:09:38 | |
The Whole World. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:40 | |
The Whole World was part of a different scene, a general scene. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:43 | |
# I just came in off the street | 0:09:45 | 0:09:47 | |
# Looking for somewhere to eat... # | 0:09:48 | 0:09:51 | |
Kevin was the front man. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:53 | |
# I find a small cafe... # | 0:09:54 | 0:09:56 | |
Tall, looking film star-ish. | 0:09:56 | 0:09:57 | |
# Then I say, may I? | 0:09:59 | 0:10:01 | |
# Sit and stare at you? # | 0:10:03 | 0:10:05 | |
Mike was a good bass player. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:08 | |
He had very clear ideas the way he wanted the bass to play. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:11 | |
He said, "I don't want it just going, boom, boom, boom, boom!" | 0:10:11 | 0:10:15 | |
# Sit and stare at you | 0:10:15 | 0:10:17 | |
# For a while... # | 0:10:18 | 0:10:20 | |
You've got to remember, I was only 16 when I joined. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:22 | |
To have two strings taken away from me and just four bass strings. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:25 | |
I wasn't happy with that, so I would keep hitting | 0:10:25 | 0:10:28 | |
the bass note of the chord in between, I'd play little melodies. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:32 | |
# That's all. # | 0:10:32 | 0:10:34 | |
Around that time, Mike, Sally and I experimented with LSD. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:42 | |
Our present opinion about LSD is that LSD is something like an amplifier | 0:10:42 | 0:10:48 | |
or catalyst which just manifests the unconscious processes in the brain. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:53 | |
When he was very, very young, he did LSD, and I think that probably had | 0:10:53 | 0:10:58 | |
an effect on him that he... | 0:10:58 | 0:11:00 | |
probably still has resonances even now. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:04 | |
DISCORDANT MUSIC | 0:11:04 | 0:11:06 | |
I was living in a little flat, actually - number one Victoria Square | 0:11:06 | 0:11:09 | |
in Pimlico. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:11 | |
And I do remember one extremely disturbing evening where... | 0:11:12 | 0:11:18 | |
people didn't look like anything recognisable. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:22 | |
They almost looked like machines, biological machines. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:26 | |
And it completely...disturbed me. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:29 | |
SHRIEKING | 0:11:31 | 0:11:33 | |
You never believed a bad trip existed until you had one. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:39 | |
Just your worst fears, your worst nightmares. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:43 | |
You know, hallucinating and all that, you think it's cool | 0:11:43 | 0:11:46 | |
and really good fun until it starts going wrong, and then you think, | 0:11:46 | 0:11:49 | |
"Wow, this is not good." | 0:11:49 | 0:11:52 | |
At the time, when I was 17, it was the end of the world for me. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:56 | |
I didn't know what was going to happen, I was going to cease to exist. | 0:11:56 | 0:11:59 | |
"Am I going to die...?" It scared the life out of me. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:03 | |
From that time on, I think he had trouble. It triggered | 0:12:06 | 0:12:09 | |
something in him which created an instability, | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
which took him years to get over. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:14 | |
He had to transform all that misery | 0:12:14 | 0:12:17 | |
into something... | 0:12:17 | 0:12:19 | |
you know, in his own psyche that kept him sane. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:22 | |
What it did was it made me retreat even more into my music. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:27 | |
In a way, music was more real to me than, erm, normal reality. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:32 | |
Here's this guy who finds life so hard... | 0:12:34 | 0:12:38 | |
and music is his only escape. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:40 | |
He described the music as a creature. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:45 | |
It's this lovely creature... | 0:12:47 | 0:12:49 | |
who...cuddles up against me and makes me feel better. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:53 | |
I moved into the house | 0:13:00 | 0:13:01 | |
with Kevin Ayers on the top of Seven Sisters Road. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:04 | |
The deal was - Kevin would do the cooking, | 0:13:06 | 0:13:09 | |
and we had to do the washing up. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:10 | |
That lasted - not that long - maybe six, nine months, I suppose. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:16 | |
And then one day, erm, Kevin came to me | 0:13:16 | 0:13:18 | |
and he said, "This is not working for me..." | 0:13:18 | 0:13:21 | |
And he, basically, disbanded the group. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:23 | |
And, erm... | 0:13:23 | 0:13:25 | |
but part of that, he offered to lend me his tape recorder. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:28 | |
It was a simple tape recorder - two tracks. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:32 | |
"I can make some demos, I've got a tape recorder." | 0:13:32 | 0:13:34 | |
So, I took it up to my little room. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:35 | |
I also borrowed the Farfisa organ from the keyboard player. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:41 | |
And then I was thinking, | 0:13:43 | 0:13:44 | |
"I want to make some repetitive thing at the front." | 0:13:44 | 0:13:48 | |
Thought of A Rainbow In Curved Air, Terry Riley... | 0:13:48 | 0:13:51 | |
This sort of underground synthesiser | 0:13:54 | 0:13:56 | |
or the birth of the synthesiser. | 0:13:56 | 0:13:58 | |
And, erm, I just played it straightaway, like this... | 0:13:59 | 0:14:04 | |
MUSIC: "Tubular Bells" by Mike Oldfield | 0:14:04 | 0:14:06 | |
That is the Farfisa organ, these are the original tapes. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:11 | |
For Tubular Bells. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:14 | |
I made the demos, I took them to EMI. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
There was a chap there called Nick Mobbs who kind of quite liked it, | 0:14:19 | 0:14:22 | |
and he said he'd get back to me but never did. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:25 | |
Erm...I remember taking them to CBS who just thought I was crazy, | 0:14:25 | 0:14:31 | |
cos it...it didn't have any vocals, didn't even have any drums. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:35 | |
And I gave up then. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:36 | |
So, what's interesting about this story is how the two main | 0:14:39 | 0:14:43 | |
protagonists come to meet. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:46 | |
You have Mike Oldfield, retreated in his bedroom writing | 0:14:46 | 0:14:50 | |
his masterwork, and there you have Richard Branson who is also obsessed - | 0:14:50 | 0:14:56 | |
he's obsessed with getting on with his future. | 0:14:56 | 0:14:59 | |
He's been doing the Student magazine | 0:14:59 | 0:15:01 | |
and he's looking for a business opportunity. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:05 | |
I decided not to risk launching the first issue of Student | 0:15:05 | 0:15:08 | |
unless we had managed to get hold of enough cash from advertising | 0:15:08 | 0:15:12 | |
to cover both printing and paper costs. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:15 | |
He started a magazine called Student which was a DISASTER! | 0:15:15 | 0:15:19 | |
Nothing he'd done up until then had really succeeded. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:23 | |
We'd started a mail-order company that would sell any record | 0:15:23 | 0:15:27 | |
from any record manufacturer for 10%, 25% less than the commercial price. | 0:15:27 | 0:15:32 | |
He was a chancer. He was prepared to gamble and go for it. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:37 | |
He was perceived as a visionary, putting it all together. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:41 | |
But, really, he was importing records illegally and flogging them. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:45 | |
He was a second-hand car salesman. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:48 | |
Being independent, one of the major advantages we have is that | 0:15:48 | 0:15:51 | |
we can make policy decisions quickly. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:54 | |
If we want to produce a record we don't have to have | 0:15:54 | 0:15:56 | |
a mass of meetings, we can immediately say, | 0:15:56 | 0:15:58 | |
"Yes, let's go ahead and produce it." | 0:15:58 | 0:16:00 | |
So, the saga continues that Richard Branson looks to investing | 0:16:00 | 0:16:04 | |
in The Manor, the first proper live-in, recording studio in Britain. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:09 | |
I found The Manor in... it was in the Country Life magazine. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:20 | |
Richard was 19, I was 29... | 0:16:22 | 0:16:25 | |
We'd bought his old manor house in Oxford. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:32 | |
I'd managed to get a mortgage from the bank and then | 0:16:32 | 0:16:35 | |
on the second mortgage managed to find... | 0:16:35 | 0:16:37 | |
..er, an aunt to lend us 10,000 on a second mortgage. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:42 | |
We thought that silver-spoon Richard had got all this easily, | 0:16:45 | 0:16:50 | |
but he had to pay back | 0:16:50 | 0:16:52 | |
about 5% above the bank rate to Auntie Joyce on a regular basis. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:56 | |
She gave him no favours at all. | 0:16:56 | 0:16:57 | |
And, lo and behold, who goes there but Mike Oldfield. | 0:16:57 | 0:17:01 | |
Doing some recording as a session man. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:04 | |
Michael came to me with this little reel. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:07 | |
He was very bad at social intercourse. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:10 | |
And he poked his face and he was like, | 0:17:10 | 0:17:12 | |
"You've got to listen to this!" he said. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:15 | |
And I said, "Ah!" | 0:17:15 | 0:17:16 | |
-HE LAUGHS -"All right, I'll listen to this." | 0:17:16 | 0:17:18 | |
-And it was a little three-inch reel. -Yeah. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:21 | |
The sort of tape you used to send to your mummy in Australia - | 0:17:21 | 0:17:24 | |
"Hello, Mum." You know, that kind of stuff. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:26 | |
BOTH LAUGH | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
And I said, "All right, I'll listen to it." "Now!" he said. So, I... | 0:17:29 | 0:17:33 | |
I...we were all stopped, so I took it upstairs anyway. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:36 | |
And listened to it on a tape recorder I had upstairs. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:40 | |
-And I was just captivated. -It was the most beautiful piece of music. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:44 | |
I mean, to this day, I can still hear it in my head. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:47 | |
They made a copy... | 0:17:47 | 0:17:49 | |
They kept a copy and they said, "We'll speak to...Richard... | 0:17:49 | 0:17:52 | |
"Simon Draper, and we'll let you know." | 0:17:52 | 0:17:55 | |
I took it into London next time I went to London. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:02 | |
And played it to Richard...no, I didn't play it to Richard, actually, | 0:18:02 | 0:18:06 | |
because we all knew that Richard wouldn't know... | 0:18:06 | 0:18:09 | |
-No, no, we didn't play it to Richard. -No! We played it to Simon. | 0:18:09 | 0:18:12 | |
-Yes. -The other Simon, Simon Draper. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:14 | |
Tom played me the demo and I loved it and I thought | 0:18:17 | 0:18:21 | |
this was absolutely bound to be...successful. I had no... | 0:18:21 | 0:18:26 | |
real means of gauging what success meant, | 0:18:26 | 0:18:28 | |
but I just knew this thing would make an impact. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:30 | |
We discussed the problem of Richard being...being Richard! | 0:18:30 | 0:18:34 | |
Whose favourite record was Bachelor Boy. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:38 | |
# He said, son You are a bachelor boy | 0:18:38 | 0:18:41 | |
# And that's the way to stay... # | 0:18:41 | 0:18:44 | |
When I went to work at Virgin, I had quite strong views | 0:18:44 | 0:18:47 | |
about what sort of record label we should start. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:51 | |
The only person there who knew very little about music was Richard. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:54 | |
I don't think he even had a record player at home. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
I got a call from Simon Draper, who had heard the demo tape | 0:18:58 | 0:19:03 | |
of Tubular Bells, and he was excited by this tape | 0:19:03 | 0:19:08 | |
and wanted to come over to the houseboat to play it to me. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:11 | |
PHONE RINGS | 0:19:11 | 0:19:14 | |
I picked up the phone, and it was Simon Draper. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
And he said, "We've been listening to your demos..." | 0:19:17 | 0:19:20 | |
I said... | 0:19:20 | 0:19:21 | |
And he said, "We'd like you to come over to Richard's boat | 0:19:21 | 0:19:24 | |
"to have dinner." And I said, "Oh, all right, then." | 0:19:24 | 0:19:27 | |
We said we loved it, we didn't really have any spare money | 0:19:28 | 0:19:32 | |
to record his album, but we told him just to go and live at The Manor, | 0:19:32 | 0:19:36 | |
and in between recording sessions, he could record his album. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:40 | |
I said, "Well, I am going to need some instruments." | 0:19:40 | 0:19:43 | |
And he said, "Just write down what you need, and we'll get it for you." | 0:19:43 | 0:19:46 | |
We were a bit astounded at all these instruments that Mike was ordering, | 0:19:50 | 0:19:53 | |
cos he needed a lot of instruments. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:55 | |
Acoustic guitar... | 0:19:56 | 0:19:58 | |
Spanish guitar... Electric guitar, bass guitar... | 0:19:58 | 0:20:02 | |
And they looked horribly expensive to me. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:05 | |
And later on, there was a concert timpani... | 0:20:05 | 0:20:07 | |
there was a glockenspiel... | 0:20:07 | 0:20:09 | |
Glockenspiel... | 0:20:09 | 0:20:11 | |
£9. Possibly mandolin, I'm not sure. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
We didn't know anything about anything. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:16 | |
We were fighting to survive in those days. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:18 | |
There was a truck which was, erm, delivering my stuff and taking | 0:20:20 | 0:20:24 | |
out stuff of the previous musician, who was John Cale. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:28 | |
As they were taking his stuff out, I just watched this set | 0:20:29 | 0:20:32 | |
of Tubular Bells going past, and I just said to the chap, | 0:20:32 | 0:20:37 | |
"Er...can you leave those?" | 0:20:37 | 0:20:39 | |
Never though that the word tubular bells was going to play | 0:20:41 | 0:20:44 | |
such an important part in our lives, and even for the fact that, | 0:20:44 | 0:20:47 | |
I suppose, that...like Virgin going into space most likely wouldn't have | 0:20:47 | 0:20:50 | |
existed if we hadn't had that particular... | 0:20:50 | 0:20:53 | |
that particular instrument! | 0:20:53 | 0:20:55 | |
And, erm, there I was in a real studio, which I could use... | 0:20:55 | 0:20:59 | |
a proper multi-track studio, 16 tracks. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:02 | |
And I was amazed that so quickly Mike had gone from this little 2-track | 0:21:02 | 0:21:07 | |
in his bedroom to this huge mixing desk, cos in those days, | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
they were vast. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:12 | |
This is the original master. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:15 | |
The piano was recorded to a clockwork metronome ticking away. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:19 | |
And, erm, I've got live bass here... | 0:21:19 | 0:21:22 | |
And, er, can play around with some keyboards. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:26 | |
Starts off with the piano, familiar piano... | 0:21:26 | 0:21:29 | |
then a glockenspiel comes in, and the Farfisa organ, so... | 0:21:29 | 0:21:32 | |
MUSIC: "Tubular Bells" by Mike Oldfield | 0:21:35 | 0:21:37 | |
And the glock... | 0:21:39 | 0:21:41 | |
And the Farfisa... | 0:21:42 | 0:21:43 | |
It's the same old pattern here... | 0:21:51 | 0:21:53 | |
And I've got the live bass now... | 0:22:02 | 0:22:04 | |
And a little harmony comes in there... | 0:22:28 | 0:22:30 | |
And then we wanted to have... | 0:22:33 | 0:22:34 | |
it was supposed to be... you know when... | 0:22:34 | 0:22:37 | |
Erm, horns go "Ba!" like in, you know, those... | 0:22:37 | 0:22:41 | |
big-band sound, but we couldn't have a horn section, so I just sort of... | 0:22:41 | 0:22:45 | |
organ, miked it up. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:47 | |
Played it really loud like "DA!" like that, you see. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:51 | |
HE COUGHS | 0:23:20 | 0:23:22 | |
And then...this is the introduction of that 3/4 time. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:26 | |
To me, that represented a human heartbeat | 0:23:26 | 0:23:28 | |
made on the left-hand of a piano. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:30 | |
If you can listen, the piano's going... | 0:23:32 | 0:23:35 | |
"Dum," like a heartbeat. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:39 | |
And then, erm... | 0:23:46 | 0:23:48 | |
Bit later on...just coming up, guitars start, | 0:23:50 | 0:23:53 | |
the thing builds up to a big climax. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:56 | |
What we are listening to here is unmixed, so it's just completely | 0:23:56 | 0:23:59 | |
as it was recorded. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:00 | |
But, erm...I can plug in my guitar and I'll show you that if you like. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:07 | |
Hang on a minute... | 0:24:07 | 0:24:09 | |
-CLATTER -Ah! | 0:24:09 | 0:24:12 | |
Whoops. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:13 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:24:13 | 0:24:15 | |
Idiot. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:17 | |
There's the guitar, I missed it, you see. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:27 | |
Then... | 0:24:53 | 0:24:55 | |
Then we've got these two, erm... | 0:24:55 | 0:24:57 | |
fuzzy guitars coming in in a minute. | 0:24:57 | 0:24:59 | |
And it builds up to the big climax. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:03 | |
I think those start on this... | 0:25:03 | 0:25:04 | |
And then there's a lead up... | 0:25:28 | 0:25:30 | |
The melody comes in, the flute comes in... | 0:25:33 | 0:25:35 | |
and then, I was telling you yesterday about this organ chord | 0:25:35 | 0:25:38 | |
that's supposed to go... | 0:25:38 | 0:25:39 | |
"Whoo...!" like that. There it is... | 0:25:39 | 0:25:42 | |
And the big beautiful melody comes... | 0:25:42 | 0:25:44 | |
The point really, I suppose, that people would not understand | 0:25:56 | 0:25:58 | |
was that when we made it, Michael was a mental wreck. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:03 | |
He would walk round with his eyes wet with tears nearly | 0:26:03 | 0:26:06 | |
all the time, he was in a terrible state. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:08 | |
He found it an enormous disquiet. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:12 | |
About the idea of being mortal flesh. And yet what was going on | 0:26:13 | 0:26:17 | |
in his head was...eternal and beautiful and everlasting, you know. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:22 | |
And that really...my heart went out to him. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:27 | |
He always had fag packets in his pocket | 0:26:31 | 0:26:33 | |
and he would suddenly stop and he would write in tiny little writing - | 0:26:33 | 0:26:37 | |
he'd slash five staves on it and write a little tune on it. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:41 | |
And put it back in the fag packet and then...carry on. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:45 | |
So...he was constantly...you know... | 0:26:45 | 0:26:49 | |
er, working. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:50 | |
What's so interesting about Tubular Bells, if you view it | 0:27:03 | 0:27:05 | |
in totality, it's like a compendium of tunes, textures, ideas. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:11 | |
There's a honky-tonk piano, you see. | 0:27:13 | 0:27:15 | |
That's all the kitchen staff from The Manor. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:18 | |
CROWD HUMMING | 0:27:18 | 0:27:19 | |
Got them all in from their cooking and... | 0:27:19 | 0:27:21 | |
that was a honky-tonk piano like my grandma's. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:24 | |
Oldfield had been sort of working up to this point for a number of years, | 0:27:24 | 0:27:28 | |
so not surprisingly, | 0:27:28 | 0:27:30 | |
therefore, you get elements of the school band in it. | 0:27:30 | 0:27:32 | |
You remember that - "Dum, de, dun, de, dun, da, da, da"? | 0:27:32 | 0:27:35 | |
I like this bit... | 0:27:49 | 0:27:50 | |
I'll turn it up... | 0:27:51 | 0:27:52 | |
You see, it's got everything in it. It's got the pub piano, it's got | 0:27:59 | 0:28:01 | |
the, you know, the thrash rock. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:03 | |
The big question when you've got this compendium of tunes | 0:28:09 | 0:28:12 | |
is how do you find a kind of climax point? | 0:28:12 | 0:28:16 | |
How do you find a tune which is going to burn a hole in people's souls? | 0:28:16 | 0:28:19 | |
DEEP BASS CHORDS | 0:28:25 | 0:28:28 | |
-I mean, the tension there, you see. -Yeah, it's phenomenal, isn't it? | 0:28:28 | 0:28:32 | |
This is the build-up to the riff. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:34 | |
This is the build-up to the bass guitar riff... | 0:28:34 | 0:28:36 | |
The bass line was very hard work. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:43 | |
Because the one I hired wasn't particularly nice to play. | 0:28:45 | 0:28:49 | |
I had to play it all in one go for about seven minutes. | 0:28:49 | 0:28:53 | |
And that whole part, right from there to the very end, | 0:28:53 | 0:28:56 | |
was all in one take. | 0:28:56 | 0:28:58 | |
See, even now... | 0:29:26 | 0:29:28 | |
my muscles are starting to tire. | 0:29:28 | 0:29:30 | |
Feel a little bit of sweat coming out of my... | 0:29:30 | 0:29:33 | |
But I had to keep going on... | 0:29:34 | 0:29:36 | |
So I'm starting to get tired now. | 0:29:45 | 0:29:48 | |
Had to keep going... | 0:29:48 | 0:29:50 | |
The accident of getting Vivian Stanshall involved in that | 0:30:04 | 0:30:07 | |
was great as well. | 0:30:07 | 0:30:08 | |
Vivian was with the Bonzo Dog Doo-Dah Band, | 0:30:10 | 0:30:12 | |
and they'd been recording already. | 0:30:12 | 0:30:14 | |
Vivian was around and getting drunk, | 0:30:14 | 0:30:16 | |
cos he could drink a bottle of brandy, you know, for tea. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:19 | |
You couldn't keep him out of anything, he would just blunder in | 0:30:22 | 0:30:24 | |
and, "Hello, dear boy, what's going on in here?" | 0:30:24 | 0:30:26 | |
-HE IMITATES GUFFAW -And that was it, you had to give in to him. | 0:30:26 | 0:30:31 | |
HORN MUSIC | 0:30:31 | 0:30:36 | |
And from behind the magnificent 20th-century Norman portal, | 0:30:36 | 0:30:40 | |
you'll find the downstairs lavatory and me seated, | 0:30:40 | 0:30:44 | |
toying with my worms. | 0:30:44 | 0:30:46 | |
Michael said to me, "Wouldn't it be great to get Vivian to introduce | 0:30:46 | 0:30:49 | |
"the instruments?" | 0:30:49 | 0:30:51 | |
I said, "Well, go and ask him?" | 0:30:51 | 0:30:53 | |
"I'm sc... Oh! I can't do that, I'm scared!" | 0:30:53 | 0:30:55 | |
BOTH LAUGH | 0:30:56 | 0:30:58 | |
And eventually, I made him go and ask him. | 0:30:58 | 0:31:00 | |
I said, "Go and ask him, go and ask him. | 0:31:00 | 0:31:02 | |
"Ask him. Say you want a slug of his brandy." | 0:31:02 | 0:31:04 | |
While you're watching, why not have a glass of Chateau Tilbury? | 0:31:04 | 0:31:07 | |
At river temperature, it's absolutely delicious. | 0:31:07 | 0:31:09 | |
I just gave him the words and... I wrote them down... | 0:31:09 | 0:31:12 | |
just the cast in order of appearance. | 0:31:12 | 0:31:14 | |
It starts with the grand piano. | 0:31:14 | 0:31:15 | |
We could not cue the fucker at all. It was a nightmare. | 0:31:15 | 0:31:18 | |
-He was impossible. -He was... | 0:31:18 | 0:31:21 | |
"Oh, grand piano!" In completely the wrong place, you know. | 0:31:21 | 0:31:24 | |
Next comes in at the beginning, reed and pipe organ. | 0:31:31 | 0:31:34 | |
-VIVIAN: -Reed and pipe organ. | 0:31:34 | 0:31:35 | |
"Reed and pipe organ." | 0:31:35 | 0:31:36 | |
-HE LAUGHS -I love it! | 0:31:36 | 0:31:38 | |
I couldn't believe my luck, especially when he said, | 0:31:48 | 0:31:50 | |
"Plus tubular bells," and the bells hit. | 0:31:50 | 0:31:53 | |
I-I was over the moon, cos he just sounded so perfect. | 0:31:53 | 0:31:56 | |
Plus...tubular bells. | 0:31:57 | 0:31:59 | |
The thing about the tubular bells is that it's an instrument | 0:32:06 | 0:32:10 | |
that normally is quite far back in an orchestra. | 0:32:10 | 0:32:12 | |
And, you know, in this case, we wanted the tubular bells to be | 0:32:13 | 0:32:17 | |
the loudest instrument. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:19 | |
We had a lot of arguments about that, me and Tom. | 0:32:20 | 0:32:23 | |
He was asking for the impossible, virtually. | 0:32:23 | 0:32:26 | |
-Within the technology we had. -Nearly came to blows about it, you know. | 0:32:26 | 0:32:30 | |
It's got to be loud, and the bell's got to be that loud. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:33 | |
I don't care if we had to bring the whole track down... | 0:32:33 | 0:32:36 | |
And then he would say, "Then it will sound too quiet on the radio." | 0:32:36 | 0:32:39 | |
It doesn't matter...the bell... | 0:32:39 | 0:32:41 | |
Let them turn all...all them turn their radios up. | 0:32:41 | 0:32:44 | |
I said... | 0:32:44 | 0:32:45 | |
Cos they come with this neat little hammer with the leather on one end. | 0:32:45 | 0:32:49 | |
And copper on the other end, I think, and it was... | 0:32:49 | 0:32:52 | |
even hitting it with the copper didn't work. | 0:32:52 | 0:32:54 | |
-So, we got a real hammer. -Got a real claw hammer, a bloody great... | 0:32:54 | 0:32:58 | |
BOTH LAUGH | 0:32:58 | 0:32:59 | |
..12-ounce claw hammer. I said, "Look, just hit it..." | 0:32:59 | 0:33:03 | |
Here we have the bell... | 0:33:06 | 0:33:08 | |
Tubular bells... | 0:33:08 | 0:33:09 | |
BELL CHIMES | 0:33:09 | 0:33:11 | |
We worked all night, | 0:33:29 | 0:33:30 | |
finished side one about eight or nine in the morning. | 0:33:30 | 0:33:33 | |
And, erm...a copy was sent off to London, and I didn't hear | 0:33:35 | 0:33:39 | |
anything until... | 0:33:39 | 0:33:41 | |
that evening. | 0:33:41 | 0:33:42 | |
Richard's reaction to the first side of Tubular Bells was, | 0:33:45 | 0:33:48 | |
"It hasn't got any vocals on it." | 0:33:48 | 0:33:50 | |
It was a major nightmare in his head about what we do with this. | 0:33:51 | 0:33:56 | |
We went to the Midem Music Conference in Cannes | 0:33:58 | 0:34:02 | |
in order to try and gauge interest in our product. | 0:34:02 | 0:34:05 | |
We hadn't released anything, | 0:34:05 | 0:34:07 | |
obviously, at this point. And see whether we could set up | 0:34:07 | 0:34:09 | |
overseas licensing deals. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:11 | |
I definitely remember when I took the tape | 0:34:12 | 0:34:15 | |
around some record companies, one of the record company bosses | 0:34:15 | 0:34:18 | |
saying he wanted to put some vocals on it. | 0:34:18 | 0:34:21 | |
If we put some vocals on it, he would sign Mike up. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:26 | |
What Richard did when he came back. He said, "Should we try and put vocals on it?" | 0:34:26 | 0:34:29 | |
And he may well have mentioned it to Mike, | 0:34:29 | 0:34:31 | |
but I don't think anyone else thought this was a good idea. | 0:34:31 | 0:34:34 | |
And...certainly Mike didn't. | 0:34:34 | 0:34:35 | |
Eventually, it was decided I could stay on in the house, | 0:34:45 | 0:34:48 | |
and whenever the studio wasn't being used, I could go in | 0:34:48 | 0:34:51 | |
and work on Side Two of Tubular Bells. | 0:34:51 | 0:34:53 | |
I had all the sections mapped out. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:57 | |
I had the Caveman mapped out. I had the beautiful, peaceful tune. | 0:34:57 | 0:35:02 | |
When the time came to choose the sleeve, the design and so on, | 0:35:05 | 0:35:09 | |
we introduced Mike to Trevor Key. | 0:35:09 | 0:35:11 | |
He did all this on his own. | 0:35:13 | 0:35:14 | |
And I just looked at it and went, "Oh, wow!" | 0:35:15 | 0:35:18 | |
My jaw dropped at just how amazingly beautiful it was. | 0:35:19 | 0:35:23 | |
This is a real...an actual real object, | 0:35:23 | 0:35:25 | |
which was built, but then it was chromium-plated... | 0:35:25 | 0:35:29 | |
As I understand it, it didn't have a back, so it wasn't like... | 0:35:29 | 0:35:32 | |
completely solid all the way round. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:35 | |
Trevor asked me, "What kind of typeface?" | 0:35:35 | 0:35:37 | |
And I said, "I don't want it big, plastered all over it. | 0:35:37 | 0:35:41 | |
"Leave this beautiful picture. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:43 | |
"You can put Tubular Bells..." | 0:35:43 | 0:35:44 | |
I chose the colour... "And put my name very small." | 0:35:44 | 0:35:48 | |
Cos I didn't want the type to destroy the image, you see. | 0:35:48 | 0:35:52 | |
Tubular Bells became the premiere Virgin release, there it was. | 0:35:53 | 0:35:57 | |
V2001, 25th of May 1973, | 0:35:57 | 0:36:01 | |
the label was launched with this piece of music. | 0:36:01 | 0:36:05 | |
An album with one track on it, over two sides. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:08 | |
You know, that's different. | 0:36:08 | 0:36:10 | |
Richard Branson rang me up - | 0:36:15 | 0:36:17 | |
"How would you like to come up to my recording studio | 0:36:17 | 0:36:20 | |
"and meet Mike Oldfield?" | 0:36:20 | 0:36:22 | |
Now, Mike was hard work. | 0:36:23 | 0:36:25 | |
He didn't want to answer the sort of questions I wanted to ask. | 0:36:25 | 0:36:31 | |
-(MUMBLES) -You know what I mean... | 0:36:31 | 0:36:33 | |
I remember I hated it. He was asking me all these personal questions. | 0:36:33 | 0:36:38 | |
"Tell me about Tubular Bells." | 0:36:38 | 0:36:40 | |
Mumble, mumble, mumble. | 0:36:40 | 0:36:42 | |
He was not the greatest interviewee in the world, | 0:36:42 | 0:36:44 | |
especially at this time. | 0:36:44 | 0:36:46 | |
"Why did you write Tubular Bells?" | 0:36:46 | 0:36:48 | |
What a weird question. | 0:36:50 | 0:36:51 | |
It's a bit silly, isn't it? | 0:36:51 | 0:36:53 | |
I think it is. | 0:36:53 | 0:36:54 | |
I can't imagine me asking such a question, it's a stupid question. | 0:36:54 | 0:36:58 | |
Er... | 0:36:58 | 0:36:59 | |
I racked my brains for 20 minutes and I couldn't think... | 0:36:59 | 0:37:02 | |
There wasn't a reason. | 0:37:02 | 0:37:04 | |
I didn't want to have a... | 0:37:04 | 0:37:06 | |
I didn't do it for that, you know, it's just... | 0:37:07 | 0:37:10 | |
HE SIGHS | 0:37:11 | 0:37:13 | |
And at the end, I said, "How was that? | 0:37:14 | 0:37:15 | |
"It wasn't all that painful, was it?" | 0:37:15 | 0:37:17 | |
He said, "I feel as if I've been raped." | 0:37:17 | 0:37:19 | |
I was taken into a room by Richard, Tom... | 0:37:22 | 0:37:26 | |
I think the lot of them, and they sat me down and said, | 0:37:26 | 0:37:29 | |
"You are going to have to do this live." | 0:37:29 | 0:37:31 | |
I said, "No, absolutely not." | 0:37:31 | 0:37:34 | |
I'd become a bit of a rebel by that time. | 0:37:34 | 0:37:36 | |
I hadn't realised quite how big a problem that we had with Mike. | 0:37:38 | 0:37:42 | |
To be frank, he had a sort of mental problem | 0:37:42 | 0:37:45 | |
and he wouldn't disagree with that, | 0:37:45 | 0:37:48 | |
at that time. | 0:37:48 | 0:37:49 | |
He said he didn't want to go on tour, but he agreed to do one concert. | 0:37:50 | 0:37:54 | |
I was pushed and pushed, and there was no getting out of it. | 0:37:55 | 0:37:59 | |
"Oh, what have I let myself in for?" | 0:37:59 | 0:38:01 | |
We assembled a group of musicians, many of whom were signed | 0:38:01 | 0:38:04 | |
to the label by this time, so it was members of Hatfield | 0:38:04 | 0:38:07 | |
and The North, Henry Cow, and then Mick Taylor played guitar on it. | 0:38:07 | 0:38:11 | |
The Queen Elizabeth Hall was suggested - nice size, | 0:38:13 | 0:38:18 | |
predominantly a classical venue. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:21 | |
Interesting, isn't it, that Branson decided that for the one live | 0:38:21 | 0:38:25 | |
appearance of Tubular Bells, it should be in one of the great, | 0:38:25 | 0:38:28 | |
hallowed bastions of culture. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:31 | |
Yeah, he wouldn't put it in a rock venue. | 0:38:31 | 0:38:33 | |
So, it's quite a strong statement behind that, I think - he wanted it | 0:38:33 | 0:38:36 | |
to be seen as a piece of...artwork. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:39 | |
I'd started getting nervous about it by then, cos I was thinking, | 0:38:41 | 0:38:46 | |
"Oh, my God, I've got to do this live." | 0:38:46 | 0:38:48 | |
There was no sampling then, no backing tracks, | 0:38:49 | 0:38:52 | |
you had to... | 0:38:52 | 0:38:53 | |
you all had to play everything. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:55 | |
As we got closer to the gig, Michael got more and more scared, I mean, | 0:38:55 | 0:38:58 | |
he was really scared. | 0:38:58 | 0:39:00 | |
I remember the rehearsals, we were going over and over this piece, | 0:39:03 | 0:39:06 | |
and Mike suddenly burst into tears and left the room, | 0:39:06 | 0:39:10 | |
because he just couldn't handle it, he was so emotionally... | 0:39:10 | 0:39:13 | |
..it was so difficult for him. | 0:39:14 | 0:39:16 | |
I'd been given an old beaten-up Bentley for my wedding present. | 0:39:19 | 0:39:24 | |
So I was driving him to the concert, and suddenly he turned to me | 0:39:24 | 0:39:28 | |
and said, "Richard, I'm sorry, I just can't do it. I just can't do it." | 0:39:28 | 0:39:34 | |
And this was about an hour and a half... | 0:39:34 | 0:39:36 | |
and the concert was sold out, and I kept driving, and he just said, | 0:39:36 | 0:39:40 | |
"Richard, you're not taking me seriously. I'm not going on stage." | 0:39:40 | 0:39:44 | |
And I was just desperately trying to think, | 0:39:44 | 0:39:46 | |
"What the hell do I do now?" | 0:39:46 | 0:39:48 | |
And then I just turned to him and said, "Look, Mike, if I give you | 0:39:48 | 0:39:51 | |
"the keys to this car, and you can drive this car off after | 0:39:51 | 0:39:54 | |
"the concert, do you think you can overcome whatever's bothering you?" | 0:39:54 | 0:39:58 | |
ANNOUNCER: Our Live from London radio concert comes tonight from | 0:39:59 | 0:40:03 | |
The Queen Elizabeth Hall. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:05 | |
And features Michael Oldfield performing his composition, Tubular Bells. | 0:40:05 | 0:40:09 | |
We got up on the stage and started... | 0:40:09 | 0:40:11 | |
MUSIC: "Tubular Bells" by Mike Oldfield | 0:40:11 | 0:40:13 | |
David Bedford came in out of time, and Mick Taylor's guitar | 0:40:15 | 0:40:19 | |
wasn't quite in tune... | 0:40:19 | 0:40:20 | |
I was just waiting for the silence and the boos. | 0:40:30 | 0:40:34 | |
Fruit they were going to throw at me, cos it was so awful. | 0:40:34 | 0:40:38 | |
And the...just to my amazement, there was this roar. | 0:40:38 | 0:40:40 | |
APPLAUSE AND WHISTLING | 0:40:42 | 0:40:45 | |
Everybody...standing ovation, straightaway, it was instant. | 0:40:45 | 0:40:48 | |
We all had tears in our eyes, and, you know, | 0:40:48 | 0:40:51 | |
Tubular Bells was born, Mike Oldfield was born, | 0:40:51 | 0:40:54 | |
Virgin Records was born... | 0:40:54 | 0:40:56 | |
He couldn't understand it. He said, "What the fuck are they standing up clapping for? | 0:40:56 | 0:41:00 | |
"That was crap!" I mean, he was really amazed. | 0:41:00 | 0:41:03 | |
I felt that I'd done it so badly that... | 0:41:03 | 0:41:06 | |
..perhaps I didn't deserve that... | 0:41:08 | 0:41:10 | |
..you know, that reaction, that reward. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:14 | |
John Peel came to the boat one day. | 0:41:15 | 0:41:18 | |
Simon and myself played him the whole album, | 0:41:18 | 0:41:21 | |
and he absolutely loved it and he chose to play the whole album | 0:41:21 | 0:41:24 | |
on his radio show, which was unheard of. | 0:41:24 | 0:41:27 | |
I've been introducing Top Gear for nearly six years now, | 0:41:27 | 0:41:30 | |
but I think that that is... | 0:41:30 | 0:41:31 | |
certainly one of the most impressive LPs I've ever had the chance | 0:41:31 | 0:41:34 | |
to play on the radio. | 0:41:34 | 0:41:36 | |
Really a remarkable record from Mike Oldfield | 0:41:36 | 0:41:39 | |
and one of the first releases on the new Virgin label. | 0:41:39 | 0:41:42 | |
John Peel was responsible for breaking so many bands. | 0:41:42 | 0:41:46 | |
It was a very influential club, it was a very select club. | 0:41:46 | 0:41:49 | |
It was like, "Let me let you in on this secret." | 0:41:49 | 0:41:51 | |
I remember a kid coming into school with a copy of Tubular Bells, | 0:41:53 | 0:41:58 | |
and us all just looking at the sleeve and thinking, "What is it?" | 0:41:58 | 0:42:02 | |
We had a mate's house we'd go to. He lived near school. | 0:42:03 | 0:42:07 | |
So we were able to get a fix at lunchtime, as well. | 0:42:07 | 0:42:10 | |
And we'd go off and listen to it there. | 0:42:10 | 0:42:12 | |
Records used to happen through word of mouth then. | 0:42:12 | 0:42:15 | |
Somebody would buy it, take it home, play it, and another person | 0:42:15 | 0:42:18 | |
would then want to buy it. | 0:42:18 | 0:42:20 | |
There was no internet or no communication like that. | 0:42:20 | 0:42:22 | |
It just began to explode, it evolved. | 0:42:22 | 0:42:26 | |
I can remember going to an Italian restaurant in Little Venice | 0:42:26 | 0:42:29 | |
with Richard shortly before the record actually came out. | 0:42:29 | 0:42:32 | |
And we were trying to guess what it would sell | 0:42:32 | 0:42:34 | |
-and we absolutely had no idea. -We knew nothing about the industry | 0:42:34 | 0:42:37 | |
but thought we might sell 4,000 copies. | 0:42:37 | 0:42:39 | |
It took a while, you see. It crept and crept and crept. | 0:42:40 | 0:42:44 | |
It didn't do it like things do nowadays, they go in at number one. | 0:42:44 | 0:42:48 | |
It took about, probably, a year. | 0:42:48 | 0:42:50 | |
It was quite a warm summer, and I can remember hearing it | 0:42:50 | 0:42:52 | |
coming out of windows, | 0:42:52 | 0:42:53 | |
and you thought, "Boy, this is happening. | 0:42:53 | 0:42:56 | |
"This is word of mouth." | 0:42:56 | 0:42:57 | |
But I think what made it different was the fact | 0:43:00 | 0:43:03 | |
it sort of kept on going. | 0:43:03 | 0:43:04 | |
It started to attract | 0:43:05 | 0:43:07 | |
much bigger audiences. It became a talking point. | 0:43:07 | 0:43:11 | |
I suppose as it started getting successful, I was thinking, | 0:43:11 | 0:43:14 | |
maybe I'd had the opportunity | 0:43:14 | 0:43:17 | |
to not get involved and do the... | 0:43:17 | 0:43:21 | |
be a star or anything but just to get out, go away. | 0:43:21 | 0:43:24 | |
Mike had a very difficult time with the fame of Tubular Bells. | 0:43:25 | 0:43:31 | |
He locked himself on the top of the remotest hill he could find | 0:43:31 | 0:43:35 | |
in Wales! | 0:43:35 | 0:43:36 | |
And lots of people calling him, saying, | 0:43:37 | 0:43:40 | |
"We want you to do this, we want you to do that." | 0:43:40 | 0:43:43 | |
"No, go away!" | 0:43:44 | 0:43:46 | |
Every year, it seems, a film is released with scenes | 0:43:47 | 0:43:51 | |
in it so disgusting or so disturbing | 0:43:51 | 0:43:53 | |
that controversy is stirred up over whether it should be shown or not. | 0:43:53 | 0:43:57 | |
A strong contender for the title this year is this film | 0:43:57 | 0:44:00 | |
The Exorcist, which was released yesterday in London. | 0:44:00 | 0:44:03 | |
The Exorcist, which was one of the biggest box-office hits | 0:44:03 | 0:44:05 | |
of all time, opened late in 1973. | 0:44:05 | 0:44:08 | |
But very close to the opening, | 0:44:08 | 0:44:10 | |
they'd thrown out the original score and were looking | 0:44:10 | 0:44:12 | |
for music to fill the gap. | 0:44:12 | 0:44:14 | |
The director, William Friedkin, | 0:44:14 | 0:44:16 | |
was in the offices of Ahmet Ertegun, head of Atlantic Records | 0:44:16 | 0:44:19 | |
in America. | 0:44:19 | 0:44:20 | |
And he came across an anonymous record with a white label. | 0:44:20 | 0:44:23 | |
And he took it out the sleeve and he put it on the record player | 0:44:23 | 0:44:26 | |
there in Ertegun's office and he put the needle on, | 0:44:26 | 0:44:28 | |
and it went, "Da, dum, dum, dum..." | 0:44:28 | 0:44:31 | |
and he went, "That!" | 0:44:31 | 0:44:32 | |
Mum, you should have seen this, a man came along | 0:44:32 | 0:44:35 | |
on this beautiful grey horse... | 0:44:35 | 0:44:36 | |
Firstly, he heard, the childlike thing, | 0:44:36 | 0:44:39 | |
cos, obviously, the centre of The Exorcist is the story | 0:44:39 | 0:44:41 | |
of a young girl who's possessed by some demon. | 0:44:41 | 0:44:44 | |
The second thing he heard | 0:44:44 | 0:44:46 | |
was that the notes are very simple, but there is something | 0:44:46 | 0:44:48 | |
about the time structure | 0:44:48 | 0:44:50 | |
that's...that's odd. | 0:44:50 | 0:44:52 | |
The way it is, it's one bar, seven, one bar, eight. | 0:44:52 | 0:44:55 | |
So it'll be... | 0:44:55 | 0:44:56 | |
-IN TIME WITH UNDERSCORED MUSIC -..one, two, three, four, five, six, SEVEN, | 0:44:56 | 0:45:00 | |
one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, | 0:45:00 | 0:45:03 | |
ONE, two, three, four, five, six, SEVEN... | 0:45:03 | 0:45:06 | |
If that was just two simple bars, all of eight notes each bar, | 0:45:06 | 0:45:11 | |
the brain would switch off after a while, but because every other one | 0:45:11 | 0:45:16 | |
trips you up, you can't not concentrate on it. | 0:45:16 | 0:45:21 | |
-I think I'll walk home tonight. -OK. | 0:45:21 | 0:45:22 | |
Take that, drop it by my house. | 0:45:22 | 0:45:24 | |
'There's a couple of moments when it appears. | 0:45:24 | 0:45:26 | |
'Chris comes walking down the street.' | 0:45:26 | 0:45:29 | |
As she comes round the corner and starts walking down the street, | 0:45:29 | 0:45:32 | |
you hear... # Dun dun dun der-dun... # | 0:45:32 | 0:45:35 | |
SOUNDTRACK REPLACES SUNG VERSION | 0:45:35 | 0:45:37 | |
'There are these kind of strange little gusts of wind. | 0:45:40 | 0:45:42 | |
'A group of kids run by wearing Halloween marks | 0:45:42 | 0:45:45 | |
'which is sort of an indicator of stuff that's to come.' | 0:45:45 | 0:45:49 | |
KIDS YELL EXCITEDLY | 0:45:49 | 0:45:51 | |
'There's a low-angle shot of nuns with their habits | 0:45:56 | 0:45:59 | |
'blowing in a slightly Gothic way.' | 0:45:59 | 0:46:02 | |
Later on, when the doctors are trying to diagnose what's happened | 0:46:02 | 0:46:06 | |
to Regan, you see a closed-circuit television feed of her | 0:46:06 | 0:46:09 | |
in a hospital bed raging. | 0:46:09 | 0:46:13 | |
It looks like a type of disorder that's rarely ever seen any more, | 0:46:13 | 0:46:16 | |
except in primitive cultures. We call it somnambular form possession. | 0:46:16 | 0:46:22 | |
'And so you have this really strange thing which is these very' | 0:46:22 | 0:46:26 | |
brief uses of that piece of music. | 0:46:26 | 0:46:29 | |
Somehow it becomes the theme from The Exorcist. | 0:46:29 | 0:46:32 | |
The Exorcist was hugely important in breaking Mike in America. | 0:46:32 | 0:46:37 | |
The album went top five. I mean, it won the Grammy | 0:46:37 | 0:46:40 | |
for Best Instrumental Album. | 0:46:40 | 0:46:42 | |
And at that juncture, Mike could've gone and capitalised on that | 0:46:42 | 0:46:47 | |
and could've been a huge American star. | 0:46:47 | 0:46:51 | |
After The Exorcist, where obviously he'd become very well-known, | 0:46:53 | 0:46:57 | |
I think he was really in quite a bad way. | 0:46:57 | 0:46:59 | |
I think, really, he had nobody to turn to. | 0:46:59 | 0:47:03 | |
He seemed very distressed, he seemed very alone. | 0:47:05 | 0:47:09 | |
It wasn't unusual to find him on his own, | 0:47:09 | 0:47:13 | |
because we'd always known he'd lock himself in his bedroom | 0:47:13 | 0:47:16 | |
and do his music, but it was a very different type of loneliness, | 0:47:16 | 0:47:19 | |
I got the impression. | 0:47:19 | 0:47:21 | |
I do remember my mother coming and visiting, | 0:47:22 | 0:47:25 | |
and she was going very much downhill at the time. | 0:47:25 | 0:47:29 | |
And I do remember sitting in a car with her... | 0:47:29 | 0:47:33 | |
That's probably the last time I saw her, actually. | 0:47:33 | 0:47:36 | |
I was suffering too, and she looked at me and she said, | 0:47:36 | 0:47:38 | |
"You know what it's like, Mike, don't you?" | 0:47:38 | 0:47:41 | |
And I said, "Yeah...yeah, I do." | 0:47:41 | 0:47:43 | |
And then, of course, the question came, you know...the follow-up. | 0:47:52 | 0:47:55 | |
We were talking about Tubular Bells, but the follow-up was a nightmare. | 0:47:56 | 0:48:00 | |
What Mike needed - and obviously what Virgin needed as well - | 0:48:06 | 0:48:09 | |
was for Mike not to be just known for Tubular Bells, | 0:48:09 | 0:48:13 | |
and it was important that Tubular Bells... | 0:48:13 | 0:48:15 | |
the name "Tubular Bells" didn't become bigger than Mike Oldfield. | 0:48:15 | 0:48:19 | |
Richard was so eager for me to do something that... | 0:48:19 | 0:48:23 | |
I looked at the first thing and I said, | 0:48:23 | 0:48:25 | |
"What's that?" "Oh, it's Hergest Ridge." | 0:48:25 | 0:48:27 | |
"All right. Well, I'll do an album called Hergest Ridge | 0:48:27 | 0:48:30 | |
"and I'll make it about kind of old, legendary things, | 0:48:30 | 0:48:34 | |
"and it'll have little whistles in it | 0:48:34 | 0:48:35 | |
"and things that sound like wild horses and all that." | 0:48:35 | 0:48:38 | |
He didn't want to do a follow-up that quickly, because it was... | 0:48:39 | 0:48:43 | |
he'd drained himself. He'd spent himself completely. | 0:48:43 | 0:48:46 | |
I was kind of disappointed with lots of the ideas I was coming up with, | 0:48:48 | 0:48:51 | |
waiting for...you know, "the big one". | 0:48:51 | 0:48:54 | |
Didn't realise that I'd already done the big one. | 0:48:54 | 0:48:57 | |
It's really tough to follow such an enormous album like Tubular Bells. | 0:48:58 | 0:49:02 | |
It didn't capture people's imagination | 0:49:02 | 0:49:04 | |
in the same way that Tubular Bells did. | 0:49:04 | 0:49:06 | |
To be honest, it's not my favourite album, either. | 0:49:06 | 0:49:11 | |
I remember I was recording with Tom, and we kind of got bored. | 0:49:11 | 0:49:15 | |
It was a nice, sunny day, so we went flying model aeroplanes instead. | 0:49:15 | 0:49:19 | |
After Ommadawn, his third album, | 0:49:22 | 0:49:24 | |
we then went through a sort of lull period for a while. | 0:49:24 | 0:49:28 | |
We had other artists that did reasonably well, but we then needed... | 0:49:28 | 0:49:32 | |
we needed a new shot in the arm. | 0:49:32 | 0:49:34 | |
# Babylon's burning | 0:49:34 | 0:49:37 | |
# You're burning the street | 0:49:37 | 0:49:40 | |
# You'll burn your houses with anxiety... # | 0:49:40 | 0:49:45 | |
By the time we got to punk, the reaction was, | 0:49:45 | 0:49:47 | |
"Don't play me that hippy shit." | 0:49:47 | 0:49:49 | |
# Babylon's burning Babylon's burning... # | 0:49:49 | 0:49:52 | |
The whole thing with punk was three chords and the truth | 0:49:52 | 0:49:54 | |
in and out under three minutes. | 0:49:54 | 0:49:56 | |
The idea of putting on one side of an album | 0:49:56 | 0:49:58 | |
and it being one piece of music was complete anathema. | 0:49:58 | 0:50:01 | |
The whole punk thing happened, and they were calling me | 0:50:01 | 0:50:04 | |
rude names in the press for no reason. | 0:50:04 | 0:50:06 | |
We had The Sex Pistols and Magazine and The Skids and so on, | 0:50:08 | 0:50:13 | |
The Ruts. Virgin started having a lot of hit singles. | 0:50:13 | 0:50:16 | |
I must say I felt betrayed, because Richard suddenly | 0:50:16 | 0:50:18 | |
jumped on that bandwagon, and Virgin became the punk label. | 0:50:18 | 0:50:21 | |
After a year or two, I'd just run out of steam | 0:50:23 | 0:50:26 | |
and I didn't know what to do, and I got really...depressed. | 0:50:26 | 0:50:30 | |
I started maybe drinking too much alcohol. | 0:50:30 | 0:50:35 | |
It was in about 1978, I got involved with this | 0:50:35 | 0:50:38 | |
self-awareness group called Exegesis. | 0:50:38 | 0:50:41 | |
TV ANNOUNCER: This group of 58 people has just completed a seminar | 0:50:43 | 0:50:46 | |
which many of them now believe has transformed their lives. | 0:50:46 | 0:50:49 | |
It lasted three days and cost them £175 each. | 0:50:49 | 0:50:53 | |
One of their...they called them "processes" | 0:50:53 | 0:50:56 | |
seemed to me a combination of primal scream therapy | 0:50:56 | 0:51:00 | |
and rebirth therapy. | 0:51:00 | 0:51:02 | |
This seminar does not function under the same laws and rules | 0:51:02 | 0:51:06 | |
that your life does out there. | 0:51:06 | 0:51:08 | |
I had to lie down on the floor, and he said, "OK, it's the time now." | 0:51:08 | 0:51:12 | |
I thought, "Oh, my God, it's going to be | 0:51:12 | 0:51:15 | |
"like facing a firing squad for me." You know, it's terrifying. | 0:51:15 | 0:51:18 | |
He said, "Just start making a noise." | 0:51:18 | 0:51:21 | |
Start to put the feelings of your body into a sound. | 0:51:21 | 0:51:25 | |
'Gradually, the noise I made became louder and louder and louder | 0:51:25 | 0:51:29 | |
'until it turned into' | 0:51:29 | 0:51:30 | |
a kind of a shouting and then it turned, after a few minutes, | 0:51:30 | 0:51:34 | |
into a scream like you wouldn't believe. | 0:51:34 | 0:51:37 | |
WAILING | 0:51:37 | 0:51:38 | |
I was screaming at the top my voice. | 0:51:38 | 0:51:41 | |
WOMAN SCREAMS | 0:51:41 | 0:51:42 | |
Stop it, stop it, stop it! | 0:51:42 | 0:51:47 | |
What they did was they held me up by my feet, | 0:51:47 | 0:51:49 | |
and these people all round me pushed these cushions | 0:51:49 | 0:51:53 | |
into my body, so I felt completely cocooned, | 0:51:53 | 0:51:57 | |
and then, very gradually, I calmed down, and they laid me down | 0:51:57 | 0:52:01 | |
on the ground, and I cannot describe the feeling that I felt, | 0:52:01 | 0:52:07 | |
because I felt the wetness of a newborn infant. | 0:52:07 | 0:52:13 | |
That's it, good night. | 0:52:13 | 0:52:16 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:52:16 | 0:52:18 | |
I was on a high like you wouldn't believe and I did all kinds | 0:52:18 | 0:52:22 | |
of strange things which I'd never done before, | 0:52:22 | 0:52:25 | |
like instead of shunning all interviews, | 0:52:25 | 0:52:27 | |
I almost suddenly wanted to talk to everybody. | 0:52:27 | 0:52:30 | |
JAUNTY PLUCKED GUITAR | 0:52:30 | 0:52:33 | |
'And it turned him into a kind of mini-monster for a period. | 0:52:35 | 0:52:38 | |
'Firm handshake,' | 0:52:38 | 0:52:40 | |
leaning forward into it. It was so uncharacteristic and wrong. | 0:52:40 | 0:52:43 | |
TAPE REWINDS INCONSISTENTLY | 0:52:43 | 0:52:48 | |
MUSIC: "Blue Peter" theme tune | 0:52:48 | 0:52:50 | |
The hair is cut, the beard is gone, | 0:52:50 | 0:52:52 | |
he's got no clothes on on the front of music mags, | 0:52:52 | 0:52:55 | |
he's doing a version of the Blue Peter theme. | 0:52:55 | 0:52:57 | |
PLAYS ALONG WITH THEME TUNE | 0:52:57 | 0:52:59 | |
'It's just this completely different character,' | 0:53:02 | 0:53:05 | |
and bear in mind, he's still not...30. | 0:53:05 | 0:53:09 | |
The worst thing he ever did was to do that rebirthing thing. | 0:53:09 | 0:53:13 | |
TAPE LOOPS AND WHIRRS | 0:53:13 | 0:53:16 | |
That might sound cruel, because I'm sure | 0:53:16 | 0:53:19 | |
he's more comfortable in himself dealing with the rest of the world. | 0:53:19 | 0:53:24 | |
MASS CHANTING | 0:53:24 | 0:53:28 | |
'I think that since that rebirthing thing, | 0:53:28 | 0:53:30 | |
'he's found it very hard to reach the places | 0:53:30 | 0:53:33 | |
'where the real music came from,' | 0:53:33 | 0:53:36 | |
because I think the music that Michael made was... | 0:53:36 | 0:53:40 | |
was the grist of his pain. He didn't want to do the pain any more. | 0:53:40 | 0:53:45 | |
Quite reasonably so, I suppose. | 0:53:45 | 0:53:47 | |
But it was the pain that was bringing the music through. | 0:53:47 | 0:53:50 | |
SCREAMING AND APPLAUSE | 0:53:50 | 0:53:54 | |
APPLAUSE FADES | 0:53:57 | 0:54:00 | |
MUSIC: "Ommadawn Part One" by Mike Oldfield | 0:54:00 | 0:54:05 | |
About five years that lasted, and I did all the things | 0:54:09 | 0:54:13 | |
I hadn't been able to do. It was like an incredible high. | 0:54:13 | 0:54:16 | |
It sort of wore off. | 0:54:16 | 0:54:18 | |
It really worked for Mike, but it didn't last, | 0:54:20 | 0:54:25 | |
because all it does is give you a glimpse, | 0:54:25 | 0:54:28 | |
but then all the automation kicks in again after a few weeks. | 0:54:28 | 0:54:33 | |
The emotional undercurrents were so strong, which had been held back | 0:54:33 | 0:54:36 | |
for so long, the powerful force of that anguish was still there | 0:54:36 | 0:54:41 | |
and it was trying to come through. | 0:54:41 | 0:54:43 | |
Then there was the passing away of my mother, | 0:54:45 | 0:54:47 | |
had to deal with the grief of that. | 0:54:47 | 0:54:50 | |
That was a terrible loss. | 0:54:50 | 0:54:51 | |
Best way I can describe that was a big balloon bursting full of grief, | 0:54:51 | 0:54:56 | |
and I had to let it out. | 0:54:56 | 0:54:58 | |
Right now, I'd see that Mike is opening up in a way | 0:55:06 | 0:55:11 | |
that he's never opened up before. | 0:55:11 | 0:55:12 | |
Because the music that Mike's come up with has touched people | 0:55:14 | 0:55:17 | |
in a way that's just so amazing. He's given so much... | 0:55:17 | 0:55:22 | |
..he deserves something back. | 0:55:23 | 0:55:25 | |
Not just the money, which he spends...HAS SPENT in the past | 0:55:25 | 0:55:30 | |
to create a wall, build big walls around himself. | 0:55:30 | 0:55:33 | |
The money doesn't help. | 0:55:33 | 0:55:35 | |
TUBULAR BELLS PLAYS IN REVERSE | 0:55:37 | 0:55:41 | |
Our starting point was music. | 0:55:41 | 0:55:43 | |
For the second sequence in the Olympic ceremony, | 0:55:44 | 0:55:46 | |
it was Tubular Bells | 0:55:46 | 0:55:48 | |
that we wanted to actually make a cornerstone | 0:55:48 | 0:55:52 | |
of 20 minutes of the evening. | 0:55:52 | 0:55:54 | |
ANNOUNCER: Please welcome Mike Oldfield | 0:55:54 | 0:55:58 | |
and the staff of the United Kingdom National Health Service. | 0:55:58 | 0:56:02 | |
'It's tricky, because you think, "How's he going to react?" | 0:56:02 | 0:56:05 | |
'We're not going to be able to play all 40-odd minutes of it, | 0:56:05 | 0:56:08 | |
'it's going to be a cut-down version,' | 0:56:08 | 0:56:11 | |
and I have to say, of all the collaborators that we worked with | 0:56:11 | 0:56:14 | |
on it, he was extraordinary. | 0:56:14 | 0:56:16 | |
'Not only the ability to manipulate that tune in different ways, | 0:56:19 | 0:56:22 | |
'but also his appetite for it was amazing.' | 0:56:22 | 0:56:25 | |
He's had to be very protective of the work, understandably, | 0:56:30 | 0:56:33 | |
but with us he was like, "Oh..." | 0:56:33 | 0:56:35 | |
We started to put it together with this sequence which was borne | 0:56:39 | 0:56:42 | |
out of children's literature and caring | 0:56:42 | 0:56:45 | |
and the villains in children's literature, | 0:56:45 | 0:56:47 | |
because the theme tune of The Exorcist, | 0:56:47 | 0:56:49 | |
that made sense as a starting point for it, | 0:56:49 | 0:56:52 | |
and then the celebratory sense of Tubular Bells was also good, | 0:56:52 | 0:56:55 | |
because we wanted to celebrate the NHS | 0:56:55 | 0:56:57 | |
and we wanted to use a lot of the staff from the NHS to learn dancing. | 0:56:57 | 0:57:01 | |
'Here we are, 40 years later, this little piece of music I had | 0:57:03 | 0:57:07 | |
'when I was in this terrible, panic-stricken situation,' | 0:57:07 | 0:57:11 | |
I was standing there on the stage live | 0:57:11 | 0:57:13 | |
in front of this massive audience and thinking, | 0:57:13 | 0:57:16 | |
"I remember writing that all those years ago," | 0:57:16 | 0:57:18 | |
and here's these thousands of people and millions of people | 0:57:18 | 0:57:22 | |
watching it, and it was going out across the planet. | 0:57:22 | 0:57:25 | |
It was...magnificent. | 0:57:25 | 0:57:27 | |
GUITAR SOLO PLAYS | 0:57:30 | 0:57:33 | |
I think he'd arrived at a point where he thought, | 0:57:35 | 0:57:37 | |
"This would be a wonderful way to celebrate the album nationally." | 0:57:37 | 0:57:40 | |
Because he lives abroad now, but it does belong to Britain. | 0:57:40 | 0:57:42 | |
I think it is borne out of our culture. | 0:57:42 | 0:57:45 | |
The most extraordinary pleasure in the album | 0:57:54 | 0:57:56 | |
is that he brings it all together, | 0:57:56 | 0:57:58 | |
that feeling of something experimental being brought together | 0:57:58 | 0:58:01 | |
and complete. Because everyone can experiment and everyone can doodle | 0:58:01 | 0:58:06 | |
and go off strange places, and they're fascinating, | 0:58:06 | 0:58:09 | |
but to complete it and to give a sense of wholeness, | 0:58:09 | 0:58:11 | |
that he brings you to the end of a journey is amazing, really, | 0:58:11 | 0:58:15 | |
and it feels, the sense... | 0:58:15 | 0:58:17 | |
The sense of satisfaction and completion you get from that | 0:58:17 | 0:58:20 | |
is the reason that it's successful. | 0:58:20 | 0:58:22 | |
To have that kind of mainstream public appeal for something | 0:58:22 | 0:58:25 | |
so weird without vocals, over such a long space of time, | 0:58:25 | 0:58:30 | |
to have that much public appeal means it's a masterpiece, I think. | 0:58:30 | 0:58:35 | |
SOFT ACOUSTIC GUITAR MUSIC PLAYS OVER LAPPING WAVES | 0:58:35 | 0:58:43 | |
Subtitles by Red Bee Media Ltd | 0:59:09 | 0:59:11 |