Glyndebourne: The Untold History


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Glyndebourne is a beautiful country house in the Sussex Downs

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where I live with my wife, the opera singer Danielle de Niese.

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What makes this place unique is that we also have a world-class

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opera house and everything that goes with it in the gardens.

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It was founded by a passionate man - my grandfather, John Christie

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and his equally passionate wife, the opera singer Audrey Mildmay.

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He started the Glyndebourne tradition with a love story

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and it continues as one.

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The most unique thing about Glyndebourne is the idea that

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you have all the creative teams actually living in the house.

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It really creates this hive of information and people, when

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they live in close proximity,

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you tend to bump into each other, idea-wise.

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It's always been that way, ever since we started.

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There have been strange people living in this house

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ever since I can remember.

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Conductors, designers, directors,

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assistants, repetiteurs

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and not singers.

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Except me! Except Danni, of course!

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Oh, there's Mr John Christie.

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I'm very glad to welcome you.

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He was an extraordinary man in many ways.

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I mean, he was a captain in the First World War

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and even though he'd he lost an eye playing rackets at school,

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when he went for his medical, the doctor asked him

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to cover an eye, which he duly did to read out the letters,

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he then read out the letters and the doctor said,

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"And now for the other eye, please."

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As he simply went like that...

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Fooled the doctor

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and got through.

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He earned a Military Cross for his courage and bravery.

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He would boost the troops' morale by reading poetry to them

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in the trenches.

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During ceasefires, they would shoot partridges behind the line.

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He would get sauces flown out from Fortnum and Mason's and they

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would have slap-up meals in the trenches while they were waiting.

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So I think he was a bon viveur,

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but he was an inspiration to many around him.

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He was passionate about music

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and he was also mad about everything German,

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from the clothes to the wine, and he would go round in his lederhosen.

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He felt that England did not have

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the same culture that Germany offered.

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He loved cars and he had this wonderful old two-seater, open-topped sports car.

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As a very young man, he would make trips to

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the Wagner festival in Germany at a time that there were no

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car ferries going across the Channel and he hired a barge

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and a raft on which he'd put his car to tow him across the Channel,

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which took him quite a long time, I think.

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Across Europe to get to Bayreuth

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to go and see Wagner, which he lapped up

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and was very inspired by.

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Well, after the war, he went back to Eton as a master

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and then he inherited the estate at Glyndebourne,

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so at that point he gave up his schoolmastering career

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and he focuses attentions completely on Glyndebourne.

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One of the first things that he did

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was knock down a court and an old conservatory

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and started building this beautiful, long room and it was

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for his friend Dr Charles Harford Lloyd,

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who had been the organist at Eton and was retiring

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and John said to him,

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"You must move to Sussex," and of course Dr Lloyd replied,

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"Well, there are no good organs for me to play,"

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and John said, "Fine, I'll build you one."

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So he had this extraordinary room built,

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which was also to satisfy his own musical interests,

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and he would put on scenes from operas

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and concerts in the organ room, invite his friends...

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He would act and star in some of them

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along with some of his friends, along with some professionals.

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And this is how he met my grandmother,

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who came down to sing the role of Blonde in Entfuhrung by Mozart.

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His usual am-dramers weren't available, but he was

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recommended the services of a young soprano from the Carl Rosa

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Opera Company called Audrey Mildmay who came with a tenor colleague.

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They came down, they were paid five guineas

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and they were given free board and lodgings.

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They came and took part in this absolutely hilarious amateur

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event in the Organ Room.

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The result of that was, of course, that John fell absolutely

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head over heels in love with his soprano, which, when you

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look at her, is not really surprising

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because she was absolutely gorgeous.

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He was at that time about 50, a confirmed bachelor.

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Anyway, she arrived and he fell instantly in love with her,

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took her upstairs, I think, and showed her his bedroom and told

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her that this was where they would be sleeping when they were married!

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She thought that might be a proposal, but tried to ignore it.

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Indeed, she wrote a letter to him afterwards,

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saying, "Please, dear John, do not fall in love with me."

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But it was a bit late! He already had.

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The story goes that he took her three times to Rosenkavalier,

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the Royal Opera house,

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and at each time

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the Silver Rose was presented by Octavian

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to Sophie, he proposed to her.

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The first two occasions, she told him,

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"I just need a little bit more time."

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On the third occasion, he bought her a diamond-encrusted brooch

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and she simply couldn't refuse!

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And the rest is history.

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They were married in June and they went to Germany of course,

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to listen to opera - where else would they go?

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So they came back from their honeymoon,

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returned home to Glyndebourne after this wonderful

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trip around Europe and John came up with the idea of extending

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the Organ Room, effectively putting a stage across the end of the room.

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And she famously remarked, "For God's sake, John -

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"if you're going to spend all that money, do the thing properly."

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So he took her advice

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and built her a 300-seat barn in the Kitchen Garden of Glyndebourne.

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What they wanted to do was create the festival atmosphere

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that they had enjoyed in Europe in this country, to bring the standard

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of performance they'd been enjoying in Europe into this country.

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At that point,

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all idea of amateur performances was completely cast aside.

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He was very fortunate to secure two of Germany's top

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directors at that time in Carl Ebert and Fritz Busch.

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This was the period just before 1933 when political interference both from

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the left and right was increasingly becoming a problem in Germany.

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A lot of musicians were denounced in the Nazi press

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and one prominent musician

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was Fritz Busch, the general music director in Dresden.

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Not Jewish, but the brother of Adolf Busch,

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who was a very famous violinist, who was an outspoken

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opponent of the Nazis and who actually left Germany in 1929.

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Fritz Busch was busy working in the opera house

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and stormtroopers came into the building while he was rehearsing

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and tried to prevent him from carrying on the rehearsal.

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He was forcibly removed from the opera house.

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Adolf Busch, Fritz's brother

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and leader of the Busch Quartet, was stranded in Eastbourne after

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a concert and conversation turned to Glyndebourne over dinner

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and the fact that Captain Christie had built this opera house

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in the middle of the countryside and he was looking for a conductor.

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Adolf said, "Well, you could speak to my brother, Fritz."

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Christie and Busch finally met in the January of 1934 in Amsterdam

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and it was a strange meeting by all accounts.

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Fritz expounded at great length about his beliefs

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in music, in singing, in what he wanted to achieve,

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in not wanting to use big names, wanting to seek out new talents

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and so on, and apparently John sat there, seemed to be asleep.

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So Fritz believed.

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Then he got up and went, "Yes, that was very interesting - thank you."

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And left.

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And Fritz was left apparently thinking, "Well,

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"I don't think anything is going to come of that," and of course

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a week or so later, got the letter saying, "Right - let's start."

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NEWSREEL: Here, members of the cast

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were discussing the score for the night's performance.

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The music, too, was under the direction of

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one of the original team - Dr Fritz Busch.

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His influence was so very civilised and humane.

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As a German,

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he had the discipline

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and the absolute method.

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When Busch arrived at Glyndebourne,

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the tables were set out

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and polished, his ruler and his red pencils and even his red ink,

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which, to my horror - he used to write on musical scores in red ink

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to show that it was for all time.

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Fritz Busch suggested this whole notion of having a producer,

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which was completely alien

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because there was no such role in the British opera world at the time.

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Fritz Busch had worked with Carl Ebert in Berlin

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and so he contacted Carl.

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Carl Ebert was one of the leading figures in 1920s German theatre.

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He was not Jewish, but since he was to the left,

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he was regarded as a persona non grata

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and when the opera house he was in... the director of was the opera house

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that Goebbels took control of as the Gauleiter of Berlin,

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so he was basically removed.

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Carl Ebert thought the idea was completely mad, but came over

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anyway to meet with John Christie and had a look at the theatre,

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discovered there was no fly tower, so all the scenery changes

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involved pulling everything out onto the grass outside the theatre,

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but realised that what they were going to get out of this,

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because they sat down the three men and talked about the budget,

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they talked about what their principles were

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and what they wanted to achieve and they realised

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and what they wanted to achieve and they realised

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they were going to get the rehearsal period they needed,

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the concentration, the devotion to producing the best

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possible opera and they both signed up for it.

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This man's idea was a real new one.

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He said, "I would like to give my country, in this specific

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"kind of art, the kind of perfection which is unknown up to these days."

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And he said, "I want to give my country something on my expenses."

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That made me really quiet - I shut my mouth and said, "Well,

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"if somebody really wants to sacrifice

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"quite a fortune for this reason,

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"then I have to contribute with all my strength,"

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and so did my friend Fritz Busch, too.

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And they revolutionised opera in this country.

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And introduced a lot more drama into opera.

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Before that, the singers hadn't needed to act

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and there was no demand for that.

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Ebert and Busch brought dramatic intensity into the operas.

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The most important thing, of course, is to improvise the words.

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Really feel that it's the first time she is dictating a letter,

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she had only generally in mind what she wanted to say,

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so let's have it again - come on.

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SHE SINGS

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All the visions are coming from outside,

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I'm nearly haunted by visions to see how people move, what

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kind of facial expression they have,

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what kind of gestures they have.

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I rush up and down, I make the gestures,

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I time carefully the steps,

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how to go in, how to go out.

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The position of the singers must be to see the conductor.

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Our singers have to be together,

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they can see that they belong to each other.

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He was in himself a natural actor,

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so he could show very clearly to the artists what he wanted.

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He always had great respect for the musical requirements

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and Busch made sure he did. They'd speak in German together.

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Carl was as good as gold.

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Like all producers,

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he'd try and get away with it,

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but Busch was very firm about it.

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Is it possible if I say we can come in a little earlier to

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establish the mood before we actually start singing?

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Excellent idea. And suddenly going with your cue.

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Before the war, this wasn't really an operatic country.

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When we had opera, it was brought in to the Royal Opera House,

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Covent Garden, very short seasons.

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There was a wonderful small company, the Carl Rosa,

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which went around the "provinces",

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but there wasn't an operatic tradition.

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It was Glyndebourne really with the tutelage,

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with the direction of Carl Ebert and Fritz Busch.

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Glyndebourne created truly professional opera in this country.

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This was Ebert's creation.

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Carl Ebert and Fritz Busch basically set the tone for everything that

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Glyndebourne was to become, which was not the best that we can do,

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but the best that can be done anywhere, and that was John

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and Audrey's motto for Glyndebourne.

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Out of the initial meeting between Fritz Busch

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and John Christie in Amsterdam,

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they confirmed a two-week season to start on 28 May 1934, with six

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performances of Le Nozze di Figaro

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and six performances of Cosi Fan Tutte.

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Rudolf Bing was contacted - he had worked with both Busch

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and Ebert previously.

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He was asked to hunt out the European continental singers

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while Busch himself came over to this country

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and auditioned all of the British singers, including Audrey Mildmay.

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There was no assumption that because she was the boss's wife,

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she was automatically going to get a role.

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She had to go through the same process as everyone else.

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And that's how it all began, in 1934, and she sang

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the role of Susanna in The Marriage of Figaro on May 28, 1934.

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The first night was sold out, pretty much, which, considering they were

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charging ?2 a seat, which was a lot of money in anyone's terms -

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almost overnight they achieved exactly what they had set out to do.

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They had timed their performance so that people had an hour

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and a half interval in the middle, they could have their dinner,

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stroll in the gardens, look at the views, soak up the atmosphere

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and enjoy absolute international class opera.

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And the critics of the time, they went away absolutely

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bemused by what they had seen.

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But they all, to a man, appreciated that they had seen something

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completely new and different and special.

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The second night...which was the first night, of course,

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only seven people came.

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So the opera house itself sat just over 300, it was very,

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very empty and then the reviews really hit the streets

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and after that, it was sold out every single night.

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So after a repertoire that was Mozart-based,

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1938 saw the introduction of Don Pasquale and Macbeth

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and then in 1940, they planned a repertoire that would have included

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Carmen, but of course war broke out and so everything was abandoned.

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Glyndebourne itself was made over as an evacuee home for

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one-to-five-year-olds from the East End of London.

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Immediately after the war, there were lots of plans,

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John trying to find a way of getting things started again, but obviously

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not having the money because the whole economic climate had changed.

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Having started with Mozart at Glyndebourne, it was inevitable

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that they weren't just going to stick with that one composer.

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As different music directors and different artistic directors

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came through the organisation, they all brought their own passions.

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In 1959, Carl Ebert said he wanted to do a production

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of Der Rosenkavalier as his farewell gesture to Glyndebourne for the

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25th anniversary and he would then retire at the end of that season.

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The atmosphere was very excited here

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because they were doing their first Der Rosenkavalier with

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Regine Crespin as the Marschallin and a Swedish soprano I adored,

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Elizabeth Soderstrom, was singing Octavian.

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It was a wonderful production.

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A young man called John Cox was Professor Ebert's assistant - he's

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now head of everything in the opera world, he's a very grand figure.

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That was my first season here.

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I always think of it as the Silver Opera

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because I think of

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the silver anniversary of Glyndebourne on that year.

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I filmed them going round the set, planning, talking to the

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designers, talking to costume makers and so on and so forth.

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The atmosphere was just as it is now, very excited!

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Opera is a wonderful art when it's all put together,

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all the different parts of the total staging, the costumes,

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the design of the singing, the orchestra.

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It was his last season as artistic director.

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I was in complete awe of him,

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he had such an incredible reputation

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and there was some absurd moment when Carl Ebert turned to me

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and put a tricorn on my head.

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I don't know whether he knew who I was at the time,

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because I was a very mere assistant!

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It was received remarkably well by the bulk of the critics,

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but the Times critic wrote a rather caustic review which

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so incensed John Christie that he wrote to every single

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member of the audience and asked them to write to the Times.

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Which they did!

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All saying that the times was completely wrong and it was

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beautiful and perfect and of course he was right to stand up to them!

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In 1958, John Christie passed on the reins of the chairmanship

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to his son George.

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He'd been brought up with this opera house,

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so it was almost in his blood.

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My dad took over at the tender age of 23

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and my grandfather died when he was 28.

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MUSIC: L'incoronazione Di Poppea: Pur Ti Miro, Pur Ti Stringo

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My dad, he had a tough time in the first decade or so.

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The '60s were tough economically

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and he had to grow Glyndebourne from its rather homespun beginnings.

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The next item I'd like to discuss is the bookings for The Wild Things

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at the National Theatre.

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George was a businessman and he worked for the banking

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foundation and was more "in the world", as it were, than his father.

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But when George came, other things were happening in any case.

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I mean, the world was changing - he was part of a changing world.

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He was a real realist as far as Glyndebourne's finances were

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concerned. It was the beginning of sponsorship in this country.

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Initially, cigarette companies were helping Glyndebourne exist, um...

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And he had a lot of charm and infectious enthusiasm

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and was a very adept at raising funds from the corporate world.

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And then as he settled into the role, as it were,

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he started to flex his muscles a little bit more - there were

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alterations to the repertoire and the way the seasons were structured.

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We're going to move onto the next item on the agenda - the 1983 tour.

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His greatest achievement in his eyes was the establishment

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of the Glyndebourne Touring Opera because he was really aware

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that we needed to get these productions out to a wider audience.

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And if the thing doesn't work,

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then my own particular livelihood is at stake in quite some degree.

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So, I'm very passionate about the thing!

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It may wear me down, but it's worth being worn down by passion.

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It was actually originally planned in 1977 that in the 1980

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season there would be a Rosenkavalier.

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I was luckily placed to be the person

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they wanted to direct it, but I didn't want to go mad, you know.

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You know, making it totally Vienna 1900, Freud, Jung

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and all that, you know, everybody is a neurotic or a political

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extremist - I didn't want to do it like that.

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Well, Felicity, of course, everybody thinks of Felicity now

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as a Marschallin - I never thought of her as a Marschallin.

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There she was, six feet tall, slim as a rake...

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I loved the character of Octavian.

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I'd never played a boy on stage,

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so that was quite a challenge,

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because I tend to drift around and obviously Octavian is much

0:23:230:23:26

more passionate and like a young puppy, really.

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I always see it in terms of shapes because the phrases are

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so beautiful and so...

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I don't know, so bendy!

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Not a very musical word, but it's...

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sensuous and...

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lilting and...

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I don't know - it gives one a lot of opportunities.

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MUSIC AND BIRDSONG

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The '80s was a golden decade for Glyndebourne with Peter Hall

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as the artistic director and Bernard Haitink as the music director.

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At that stage, Glyndebourne was an 830-seat opera house -

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it had grown over the years to that size.

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But it was too small for the ever-increasing demand

0:24:160:24:20

from the audiences.

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It was a cramped, hot, not-great-acoustically auditorium,

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creaking at the seams.

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Slowly, within the ages, it dawned on him that he was going to

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have to knock down the dear old theatre and build a bigger one.

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By having a bigger auditorium, and more seats to sell,

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the box office potential is enhanced

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and box office potential is

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what's going to secure Glyndebourne's long-term existence.

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And so in the late '80s, he set about fundraising.

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The project was ?34 million. Not an insubstantial amount at that time.

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But it also... He got his timing pretty perfect.

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It was the height of the boom in the late '80s

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and he took every single corporate member around a model

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in the house here and enthused them with his vision for the new theatre.

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And he managed to raise 75% of the funds from our corporate members

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in return for a 20-year membership.

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And we had a closing gala to close the curtain on the old theatre

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and we managed to raise about ?1 million that night.

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The bulldozers came in in August 1992

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and knocked down the old theatre.

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We still had about ?6 million to raise. It was a nervous moment.

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We raised the money in a boom economy,

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but we were very fortunate then in building the theatre in a slump.

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It's reckoned, generally speaking,

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that we built a 50 million pounder for 34 million.

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He knew there was going to be uproar amongst all the old,

0:25:530:25:57

traditional audience members, and there was.

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He received a lot of letters about it

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when he finally did take the plunge

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and decide to go for it.

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But it was absolutely the right thing to do.

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The building was built on time and on budget.

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We won all sorts of awards for the architecture, the brickwork,

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the concrete work, the woodwork.

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And we only missed one season, 1993.

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We opened on May 28, 1994 with another new production

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of The Marriage of Figaro,

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exactly 60 years after the first night in 1934.

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Opera enthusiasts flocked to Glyndebourne in Sussex

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this evening for the gala opening of the new opera house.

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CORKS POP

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Champagne, opera and a picnic on the lawn between the acts.

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Glyndebourne has been part of the English social scene

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for 60 years, perhaps the world's most exclusive opera house.

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Tonight, the rich and famous, but mostly the rich,

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came to christen the new opera house.

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You paid for this new theatre and for this...

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..Glyndebourne and the whole world of opera has a huge debt...

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..of monumental proportions owing to you.

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What he did was to take his father's dream and turn it into a much

0:27:130:27:17

bigger dream, which is called New Glyndebourne.

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He had the intelligence,

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the drive to force a new opera house into existence where it would

0:27:210:27:24

have been easy to say, "We'll just go on improving the old one."

0:27:240:27:27

People don't want to lose the old one, but this new house is

0:27:270:27:29

a totally different level of sound,

0:27:290:27:32

technical quality from the old one.

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That's George's achievement - he's going to leave behind a great opera house.

0:27:340:27:38

And now I think they've probably all forgotten about the old theatre

0:27:380:27:42

and we're now 20 years into this new theatre

0:27:420:27:44

and it is holding up extremely well.

0:27:440:27:46

I think we first put Rosenkavalier into the planning

0:27:460:27:49

about four years ago.

0:27:490:27:50

There'd been a little bit of a dearth of Strauss at Glyndebourne,

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so we scheduled a new production of Ariadne, which appeared last year,

0:27:540:27:58

and Rosenkavalier in 2014.

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It's lovely for me, because actually I saw the last production of Rosenkavalier -

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amazingly, I managed to get a dress rehearsal ticket

0:28:050:28:07

when I suppose I was in my 20s.

0:28:070:28:09

I remember seeing that and those amazing costumes by Erte.

0:28:090:28:14

And it's wonderful now to see this piece with a very different

0:28:140:28:18

but equally brilliant creative team behind it.

0:28:180:28:21

One of the things that's special about this production is the three

0:28:220:28:25

leading characters in it - the Marschallin, Octavian and Sophie,

0:28:250:28:29

all those three singers are singing their roles for the first time.

0:28:290:28:32

And that makes it a very special experience, not only for us,

0:28:320:28:36

but all of them.

0:28:360:28:37

I think Glyndebourne has always been about encouraging young artists.

0:28:370:28:41

It's never been particularly about having established

0:28:410:28:43

international stars.

0:28:430:28:45

I hope it will give singers their first opportunities here,

0:28:450:28:48

at whatever stage it is in their career.

0:28:480:28:50

Singers like Anna Rajah are at a different stage of their career.

0:28:530:28:58

She is a tremendously talented young artist and I hope will return

0:28:580:29:01

to Glyndebourne in a principal role in the future.

0:29:010:29:04

I live in digs, places that Glyndebourne organised near Lewes.

0:29:060:29:11

The bus is really close,

0:29:120:29:13

so every morning it's two minutes for the bus and I'm here.

0:29:130:29:17

This is my first professional job, which I'm thrilled about.

0:29:170:29:20

I remember being at music college and people talking about,

0:29:200:29:23

"Glyndebourne, Glyndebourne, Glyndebourne."

0:29:230:29:25

I really wanted to see this place and be part of it.

0:29:250:29:29

So when my agent told me that I had an audition with them,

0:29:290:29:32

I was absolutely thrilled.

0:29:320:29:34

So we'll have choristers this summer who are having their first

0:29:340:29:38

professional engagement, but we'll have other,

0:29:380:29:41

more established singers, singing roles for the first time.

0:29:410:29:44

I travel from London by train.

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And then I get met at Lewes station by a lovely minibus which

0:29:520:29:55

takes me into the countryside.

0:29:550:29:58

That takes me to work, so it's a pretty nice commute, I have to say.

0:29:590:30:04

Kate Royal is almost a classic Glyndebourne story.

0:30:080:30:12

She came out of the Guildhall just over ten years ago,

0:30:120:30:14

she sang in our chorus in 2003.

0:30:140:30:18

She understudied Pamina in the Magic Flute the next year.

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Glyndebourne was my first professional job.

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I went to join the Glyndebourne chorus, which is something that a lot of the singers do,

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and I was given an understudy, which was Pamina, and I got to

0:30:290:30:32

go on and perform the role twice,

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so that was jumping in at the deep end.

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And some critics were in that night and it just, from then on,

0:30:380:30:42

I had a career!

0:30:420:30:44

She's had a trajectory at Glyndebourne which has gone

0:30:440:30:46

right from starting in the chorus to this wonderful role

0:30:460:30:50

in Rosenkavalier, which she's singing for the first time at Glyndebourne.

0:30:500:30:53

Tara is an extremely special performer and we've known Tara

0:30:560:30:59

since 2010, when she came here to sing the small

0:30:590:31:02

role of the Sandman in Hansel and Gretel.

0:31:020:31:04

Since that time, she's had a huge career and is now

0:31:040:31:07

one of the most exciting young

0:31:070:31:09

mezzo sopranos in international opera.

0:31:090:31:12

I stay in Lewes.

0:31:130:31:15

It's a gift to be able to walk from your little house

0:31:150:31:18

across the Downs and down to Glyndebourne!

0:31:180:31:22

You can take a walk like this every morning.

0:31:220:31:24

You're out here in the air, there's the animals, I mean,

0:31:240:31:27

when we started at rehearsals here, it was lambing season.

0:31:270:31:30

It was the most incredible thing to see every morning.

0:31:300:31:32

So you're not only waking up the body,

0:31:370:31:39

but you're waking up your senses.

0:31:390:31:41

It's fab.

0:31:410:31:42

I mean, I had no idea...

0:31:430:31:45

You know, if you think about it, there is no other opera house

0:31:450:31:48

like this. It's really like a little dream.

0:31:480:31:50

I remember first seeing the sign "Glyndebourne"

0:31:510:31:55

and thinking to myself, "Wow, I can't believe I'm actually here!"

0:31:550:31:59

MUSIC: "Also Sprach Zarathustra" from Don Juan Op.20 by Richard Strauss

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I started on this one about three years ago.

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I was directing something in New York and I spent the first three weeks

0:32:400:32:46

that I was there

0:32:460:32:47

on finalising the design for this.

0:32:470:32:50

Um...

0:32:500:32:51

But the designer, Paul Steinberg,

0:32:510:32:53

had come to London a few times.

0:32:530:32:55

I'd wanted some sort of set

0:32:570:33:00

that did actually express the wealth of anachronism that's in this.

0:33:000:33:06

There's 19th-century Strauss waltzes in it.

0:33:060:33:09

I love the three different societies it moves through.

0:33:090:33:13

Palace aristocracy...

0:33:140:33:18

bourgeois life...

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new money.

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And lowlife.

0:33:230:33:25

This is a very olfactory piece, as well, Der Rosenkavalier.

0:33:270:33:31

There's lots of stuff about smell in it.

0:33:310:33:34

But we tried when we designed it

0:33:340:33:36

to feel that each set provoked

0:33:360:33:38

a sense of smell.

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I mean, we don't pump smells out into the audience or anything

0:33:390:33:42

scary like that.

0:33:420:33:44

First act's like... That's a very exclusive smell.

0:33:440:33:48

Very luxurious smell.

0:33:480:33:51

Second act is Faninal's Palace.

0:33:510:33:54

That could smell of new chair or new car.

0:33:540:33:57

Or kind of the smell you might have in a room where

0:33:590:34:02

the air conditioning is on too cold.

0:34:020:34:04

And the third act,

0:34:040:34:06

sort of... that's a bad smell. That's...

0:34:060:34:08

er...

0:34:080:34:10

mouldy carpet...

0:34:120:34:14

I won't say... What was the other?

0:34:140:34:17

Oh, ha!

0:34:170:34:18

You can't say that on television in a documentary

0:34:180:34:21

about Der Rosenkavalier!

0:34:210:34:22

That the third act should smell of urine!

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Strauss, by the age of 29,

0:34:290:34:31

was already the most famous composer in the world before he even

0:34:310:34:35

started writing operas and also the most famous conductor in the world.

0:34:350:34:39

His reputation was based on symphonic music, basically.

0:34:390:34:42

Symphonic poems, like Don Juan

0:34:420:34:45

or Also Sprach Zarathustra, which everybody knows from 2001.

0:34:450:34:51

It begins in C major with this very basic...

0:34:510:34:55

..theme and C major to C minor.

0:34:570:35:01

No black notes,

0:35:010:35:04

then the introduction of black notes...

0:35:040:35:06

And then...

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Absolutely magnificent.

0:35:120:35:14

He wrote two successful operas,

0:35:140:35:17

Elektra and Salome, which really

0:35:170:35:20

established Strauss's reputation as a first-rate opera composer.

0:35:200:35:25

Hofmannsthal is known principally as the librettist

0:35:250:35:27

for six of Richard Strauss's operas.

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He wrote the play Elektra, which attracted Strauss's attention

0:35:290:35:32

and then collaborated on five more dramas with Strauss.

0:35:320:35:36

He was right at the heart of a creative movement

0:35:360:35:38

of literary modernism in Vienna

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and very quickly became part of a group of young writers

0:35:400:35:43

called Jung Wien - Young Vienna -

0:35:430:35:45

who met in the Cafe Griensteidl

0:35:450:35:47

and he rapidly became the dominant poet of his period.

0:35:470:35:51

These dark and bloodthirsty two operas,

0:35:510:35:55

Salome and Elektra,

0:35:550:35:57

were in a sense popular modernism.

0:35:570:35:59

This was a kind of decadent, shocking modernism that was highly consumable.

0:35:590:36:05

Both Hofmannsthal and Strauss had ideas of wanting to do

0:36:050:36:08

something comic, something lighter and by the time of Rosenkavalier,

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Hofmannsthal wanted to do something not so much a la mode, if you like.

0:36:130:36:18

It's not exactly neoclassical, but he's wanting to look

0:36:180:36:20

back to the 18th century, he's wanting to, as an Austrian,

0:36:200:36:25

he's wanting to plug in a little bit to the Austrian Catholic

0:36:250:36:28

sort of heritage, the cultural dramatic heritage.

0:36:280:36:32

So they're going back to the Mozart operas

0:36:320:36:34

and he's going back to French comedy, to Moliere.

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Artists like Hofmannsthal, and indeed to some extent, Strauss, who

0:36:380:36:42

were members if you like of the high bourgeoisie, the lower aristocracy,

0:36:420:36:47

they, part of them,

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longed for that world where everything was nicely ordered

0:36:480:36:53

and everyone knew where they were and where they were in the class system.

0:36:530:36:57

The premiere in Dresden was incredibly successful,

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so much so that

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they started putting on special Rosenkavalier trains to

0:37:010:37:05

ply between I think it was Vienna and Dresden.

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Everybody came to see it and then it came to London.

0:37:080:37:12

It has been a smash hit ever since.

0:37:120:37:14

Right from the start, Rosenkavalier was rejected by some

0:37:180:37:22

audiences as Strauss stepping back, as a retreat from this exciting,

0:37:220:37:27

colourful kind of modernism of Salome and Elektra.

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When it was first performed in Milan, it was actually

0:37:310:37:35

leafleted at the Scala - they had leaflets, the Futurists

0:37:350:37:39

leafleted the audience, as happens sometimes an Italian theatres.

0:37:390:37:43

Basically denouncing Strauss for having denied,

0:37:430:37:47

having absconded from the Modernist path

0:37:470:37:52

and written this rather aggressive work that had waltzes,

0:37:520:37:55

which they didn't believe were appropriate at La Scala.

0:37:550:37:58

You didn't have waltzes in serious operas

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because that was associated with operetta.

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Salome and Elektra are very advanced chromatically.

0:38:020:38:06

Lots of nasty noises.

0:38:060:38:07

There's a dissonant sound...

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Turns in Rosenkavalier to...

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So everybody thinks,

0:38:240:38:25

"Ah, he wants to be popular, sentimental", but in fact,

0:38:250:38:28

Rosenkavalier in my view is even more sophisticated.

0:38:280:38:31

It's longer and it's more symphonically cohesive.

0:38:310:38:36

It's a little bit like a Mahler symphony in the sense that

0:38:360:38:40

very disparate things - folk music,

0:38:400:38:43

high art, symphonic things that come from Beethoven and everything

0:38:430:38:48

in between - is brought together in a symphonic unity.

0:38:480:38:51

Strauss was interested in himself.

0:39:020:39:05

He was interested in the promotion of his music

0:39:050:39:07

and when the Nazis came to power, he saw an opportunity for himself.

0:39:070:39:13

Up to that point, although he was still ostensibly the most

0:39:130:39:16

famous composer in Germany,

0:39:160:39:17

he was, in a way, an old man and sort of seen as yesterday's musician.

0:39:170:39:23

Remember, before the First World War,

0:39:230:39:25

he was regarded as a great Modernist,

0:39:250:39:27

but by the '20s, his music

0:39:270:39:29

was seen as old-fashioned

0:39:290:39:31

and he was disregarded by the younger generation of composers.

0:39:310:39:35

So, he saw this opportunity

0:39:350:39:37

when the Nazis came to power to actually occupy the centre stage

0:39:370:39:40

once again and one way in which he hoped to occupy the centre stage

0:39:400:39:46

was by assuming a position of responsibility for the rights

0:39:460:39:50

of composers, something he had fought for all throughout his life.

0:39:500:39:54

What I mean by rights for composers is that

0:39:540:39:56

when works are performed,

0:39:560:39:58

the composers get proper royalties for those works

0:39:580:40:02

and so he was really agitating this and thought that

0:40:020:40:07

if he would be sympathetic to the new regime, he would get his way.

0:40:070:40:12

And he spoke very warmly about the new regime because he thought

0:40:140:40:18

the new regime was really interested in music and he actually said to

0:40:180:40:21

one friend, "Thank God we now are in a regime that's interested in music."

0:40:210:40:25

And so all through the first years of the Nazi period, all his actions

0:40:250:40:29

seem to be very much in support of the work the Nazis were doing.

0:40:290:40:33

He was never a party member, but at least the beginning of this stage,

0:40:330:40:36

he was very much demonstrating accommodation to the Nazis.

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TRANSLATION FROM GERMAN

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Do remember, also in '36,

0:40:540:40:56

he conducted at the Olympic Games in the opening ceremony.

0:40:560:41:00

He wrote a work called the Olympic Hymn, which he conducted.

0:41:000:41:03

Strauss put on an opera which was also premiered in Dresden -

0:41:050:41:08

Die Schweigsame Frau,

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where the libretto was by the Jewish writer, Stefan Zweig.

0:41:110:41:15

The problem with the collaboration between

0:41:150:41:18

Zweig and Strauss was that Strauss was not Jewish and Zweig was,

0:41:180:41:21

and when the opera was premiered in 1935,

0:41:210:41:24

Strauss insisted that Zweig's name

0:41:240:41:27

appeared on the playbills, not just "comedy after Ben Jonson",

0:41:270:41:32

but "comedy by Stefan Zweig".

0:41:320:41:34

That got him into trouble with the Nazis.

0:41:340:41:36

I believe even Hitler was down on the list of attendees

0:41:360:41:39

for the opening night and as soon as Strauss began to make a fuss,

0:41:390:41:43

the Nazi bigwigs stayed away.

0:41:430:41:45

It was illegal, actually, for an Aryan to collaborate with a Jew.

0:41:450:41:49

They wanted to just remove his name from the playbill and when Strauss

0:41:490:41:54

found this out, he threatened to pull the plug on the whole thing.

0:41:540:41:58

And the irony is that Strauss wrote a letter to Zweig

0:41:580:42:02

saying that he was fed up of his job

0:42:020:42:03

as president of the Reichsmusikkammer.

0:42:030:42:05

He was only play-acting and all he was interested in was good art

0:42:050:42:09

and preserving good art,

0:42:090:42:10

and the letter was intercepted by the Gestapo

0:42:100:42:13

and sent directly to Hitler.

0:42:130:42:14

Then he was made to resign, so ironically,

0:42:140:42:16

although he was a representative of the German Government in '36,

0:42:160:42:19

he'd fallen out with the hierarchy, but they were

0:42:190:42:23

able to use him as a kind of puppet for their own propaganda.

0:42:230:42:26

The end of the Second World War,

0:42:330:42:34

when the Americans came into Germany and Strauss was in his villa

0:42:340:42:38

and he came out and he saw the American soldiers,

0:42:380:42:42

he immediately introduced himself to the American soldiers.

0:42:420:42:46

He said, "I am Richard Strauss, the composer of Der Rosenkavalier."

0:42:460:42:51

He said that because he knew it was his most popular opera.

0:42:510:42:56

I think the key to Rosenkavalier is in the three central characters.

0:43:060:43:10

First of all there's the Marschallin

0:43:100:43:12

who we see right at the beginning

0:43:120:43:13

of the opera enjoying a night of

0:43:130:43:15

passion with her lover, Octavian.

0:43:150:43:18

And she's somebody who is very much aware of the passing of time

0:43:180:43:21

and aware of the fact that Octavian will at some point become

0:43:210:43:24

bored with her and move on, and indeed, in Richard's production,

0:43:240:43:28

there's the sense that she too might become bored with him.

0:43:280:43:31

Octavian himself is a very interesting role that Strauss has

0:43:320:43:36

created. Very much in a Mozart manner,

0:43:360:43:38

he has created it as a trouser role. It's actually...

0:43:380:43:41

The character is a man,

0:43:410:43:43

but played by a woman and confusingly during the course of the opera,

0:43:430:43:47

the man, Octavian himself, dresses up as a woman,

0:43:470:43:50

so there's all sorts of confusion and pandemonium that results from that.

0:43:500:43:55

The third character is the rather sad character of Sophie,

0:43:550:43:58

who is just the pawn in Baron Ochs' plans to marry into money.

0:43:580:44:04

And she is the person who almost inevitably at the end

0:44:090:44:12

of the opera falls in love with Octavian and the two of them finish

0:44:120:44:16

the opera together, leaving the Marschallin back on her own again.

0:44:160:44:19

It tends to move chronologically

0:44:260:44:29

between the 18th century of

0:44:290:44:31

Maria Theresa to the period

0:44:310:44:34

when it was written, which is

0:44:340:44:36

1910 to 1912 in Vienna.

0:44:360:44:38

Well, I had read Zweig's The World Of Yesterday and the first third

0:44:410:44:44

is about people who lived in Vienna,

0:44:440:44:46

actually just before the Rosenkavalier was written.

0:44:460:44:50

You get a very strong idea of all those men being voracious readers,

0:44:500:44:56

voracious consumers of theatre, all intensely

0:44:560:44:59

hothouse plants, particularly the young Hofmannsthal,

0:44:590:45:02

who they all idolised.

0:45:020:45:04

There were some films I've found - pornography - in this period.

0:45:060:45:11

And was amazed how playful

0:45:130:45:16

and innocent the situations were in these films.

0:45:160:45:20

They were nearly all about class, always about masters with maids.

0:45:220:45:26

And it's written in the age of burgeoning psychoanalysis.

0:45:280:45:32

So, yes, it's a can of worms!

0:45:320:45:36

Richard wanted Kate to appear naked, so there's a Spanx under there

0:45:370:45:42

and a bra under there and then,

0:45:420:45:44

cos she's put seams in as if it's a garment rather than just a bodysuit.

0:45:440:45:48

Because it's all about the skin tone and the different textures,

0:45:480:45:51

so it's not REAL real,

0:45:510:45:53

but it looks it from the stage,

0:45:530:45:55

but you're not quite sure what you're looking at.

0:45:550:45:57

The role of the Marschallin is one of those iconic

0:46:140:46:17

roles for the soprano voice.

0:46:170:46:20

And, in all honesty, it took me a long time to say yes

0:46:210:46:25

and to decide that it was something I felt that I could take on.

0:46:250:46:28

She's a very bright and confident

0:46:300:46:34

and lively woman who just happens

0:46:340:46:37

to be in this marriage

0:46:370:46:39

that has forced her into this cage, really.

0:46:390:46:44

She is a princess, as well.

0:46:440:46:47

In the Austrian way, she has all sorts of different titles,

0:46:470:46:49

she's the field marshal's wife and she's a princess.

0:46:490:46:52

So she's part of the nobility and she's married of course into

0:46:520:46:57

ancestral wealth and estates and she has a beautiful house and lots of

0:46:570:47:01

servants and people come to her with petitions and all the rest of it.

0:47:010:47:05

So she's at the centre of a social whirl which she is to some extent

0:47:050:47:11

being slightly subversive of in her own lifestyle.

0:47:110:47:15

Well, she is the most interesting character and she does have...

0:47:150:47:18

She's a Christian,

0:47:180:47:20

but her Christianity is not beleaguered by guilt.

0:47:200:47:24

And she sees sex as part of nature

0:47:240:47:27

and she sees it as a very glorious thing.

0:47:270:47:30

Very well aware of her position in society,

0:47:340:47:36

she knows that she cannot step outside of the boundaries.

0:47:360:47:40

I think it's her escape, you know, having an affair

0:47:400:47:43

and we know that it's not just been him, there's been many before.

0:47:430:47:47

There'll probably be more after.

0:47:470:47:49

But it's her escape and her way of

0:47:490:47:52

expressing herself, being free and

0:47:520:47:55

just allowing herself some freedom

0:47:550:47:59

in an otherwise very strict society.

0:47:590:48:02

Octavian is absolutely obsessed with her, she's so lush and exciting.

0:48:080:48:12

This is a young guy who is really experiencing life,

0:48:150:48:18

he's absolutely obsessed with the Marschallin.

0:48:180:48:22

She's introduced him to life as a man,

0:48:250:48:27

so to speak, life in the bedroom.

0:48:270:48:29

And this is overwhelmingly exciting.

0:48:290:48:31

The role of Octavian was always intended to be cross cast,

0:48:350:48:38

so sung as a soprano played by a woman.

0:48:380:48:41

That means that from the perspective of the audience,

0:48:430:48:46

what you see is a woman pretending

0:48:460:48:48

to be a man, pretending to be a woman.

0:48:480:48:51

So I spend, let's say, at least 80% of my opera time as a boy.

0:48:590:49:04

It's almost the inverse of the scene in Life Of Brian

0:49:090:49:12

where you've got the stoning scene

0:49:120:49:13

and you've got men pretending to be women pretending to be men.

0:49:130:49:18

But, unlike in Life Of Brian, where it's always quite clear

0:49:180:49:21

that they are men putting on a falsetto,

0:49:210:49:24

in the opera,

0:49:240:49:26

it's always clear that it is a woman because she's singing as a soprano.

0:49:260:49:29

Let me tell you, to play a little boy is so much fun!

0:49:350:49:39

You can get so dirty, it's all really loose in your body,

0:49:390:49:43

none of this where ladies have to sit upright and keep their knees

0:49:430:49:47

together and have great posture - none of that nonsense!

0:49:470:49:51

Hofmannsthal certainly was interested in androgyny.

0:49:510:49:56

In, if you like, erotically charged same-sex relationships.

0:50:000:50:04

And that certainly is then present in Rosenkavalier.

0:50:040:50:09

Indeed, one can read the opening to the first act

0:50:090:50:12

as a sort of lesbian love scene.

0:50:120:50:14

It's a sort of safe way of looking at homoeroticism.

0:50:160:50:18

It's a slightly titillating

0:50:200:50:23

and licentious way of looking at female homoeroticism I think, yes.

0:50:230:50:28

The starting point is very often our music director

0:50:350:50:38

and what they want to do.

0:50:380:50:41

This summer, we have a new music director, Robin Ticciati,

0:50:410:50:44

and he has chosen an opera by Strauss.

0:50:440:50:47

I am a continuation.

0:50:470:50:50

I am joining a train.

0:50:500:50:51

The history of the place is huge and carries with it an incredibly

0:50:520:50:57

deep artistic belief and philosophy

0:50:570:51:01

and so I want to join that.

0:51:010:51:03

We are in the Organ Room at Glyndebourne where there have

0:51:090:51:12

been many rehearsals with singers and pianists

0:51:120:51:15

to set up an opera,

0:51:150:51:18

the beginnings of the opera process.

0:51:180:51:20

And...um...

0:51:200:51:21

I'm often asked what the conductor does before the orchestra comes

0:51:230:51:28

in an opera process.

0:51:280:51:30

For me, these four weeks, five weeks of just singers, director

0:51:300:51:35

and pianist is a way of setting up the opera and the scene.

0:51:350:51:41

I thought we would start in the middle of Act Two, Baron Ochs.

0:51:410:51:46

Baron Ochs has just found Octavian

0:51:470:51:49

and Sophie together.

0:51:490:51:50

And we're left with this noise at 133.

0:51:530:51:57

Just five bars of orchestra.

0:52:140:52:16

And there's a mixture of trombones, tuba, basset horns,

0:52:160:52:21

clarinets and you can hear that all immediately in the piano

0:52:210:52:26

and the whole thing about setting up a relationship

0:52:260:52:29

with the pianist in the room, it's about creating an energy whereby

0:52:290:52:34

the singers can imagine their character, imagine

0:52:340:52:39

the feeling of the pit, but four weeks before the orchestra arrive.

0:52:390:52:44

I mean, even in this third bar, the tuba appears -

0:52:440:52:47

tell me about the tuba. You spend years preparing the score.

0:52:470:52:52

It's a great sound, isn't it?

0:52:520:52:54

It's very dark...

0:52:540:52:56

And it all melds into...

0:52:590:53:00

a strong legato to...

0:53:000:53:02

..this extreme chord.

0:53:040:53:06

With the timpani.

0:53:060:53:08

So you're always thinking orchestrally. Yes.

0:53:100:53:13

The first time we did that, we played it through and then

0:53:130:53:17

when we were in the scene, I remember just sharing with Duncan

0:53:170:53:20

a little more of the tuba line and Richard said, "Ah!"

0:53:200:53:24

"That's the moment where just Octavian and Sophie

0:53:240:53:27

"could just melt back into the atmosphere

0:53:270:53:30

"and really feel the presence of Ochs on the scene."

0:53:300:53:34

Let's just play it once again with that.

0:53:340:53:37

And so it's the idea of creating a palette, orchestral palette,

0:53:540:53:58

where the singers feel completely in the world of Der Rosenkavalier.

0:53:580:54:03

But the first kiss, you know,

0:54:100:54:11

Sophie never kissed anyone before in our production and we were

0:54:110:54:16

really experimenting about the places where there would be stillness.

0:54:160:54:21

If you play just before two before 116...

0:54:210:54:23

Just that chord.

0:54:290:54:31

Just on this... Or whatever chord it is, that's the beautiful

0:54:310:54:34

thing about music, no-one has to know, but anyone can feel that.

0:54:340:54:39

I think the beautiful thing about Glyndebourne

0:54:590:55:02

is the fact that it never apologises for the rehearsal length.

0:55:020:55:06

This is what we do here.

0:55:060:55:08

It gives you an opportunity

0:55:100:55:12

to go to the heart of a piece of music.

0:55:120:55:15

I was very happy to make my debut here because I knew

0:55:220:55:25

we would have a lot of time and, for this role, we need...

0:55:250:55:30

For this opera, we need a lot of time.

0:55:300:55:33

Every opera and every important thing that we do in our life

0:55:330:55:38

must be done with a lot of work and determination

0:55:380:55:44

and this is the case with Rosenkavalier, with the rehearsal.

0:55:440:55:48

Every detail was worked very hard.

0:55:480:55:51

SHE SINGS AN EXCERPT

0:55:510:55:55

The role of Sophie, it's never a disappointment

0:56:070:56:11

when you get a perfect Sophie after

0:56:110:56:12

a perfect Marschallin in Act One.

0:56:120:56:14

With a good Sophie, you should, really,

0:56:140:56:17

more or less forget about the Marschallin

0:56:170:56:19

until she comes back in Act Three.

0:56:190:56:21

Sophie is her father's daughter, there's a sort of feistiness,

0:56:210:56:24

there's a row between father and daughter in the second act.

0:56:240:56:27

She backs down at the last minute

0:56:360:56:38

when she sees that it's affecting his health.

0:56:380:56:41

But she has spirit, she has feistiness.

0:56:410:56:43

Sophie is a very young girl,

0:56:470:56:50

she's 15.

0:56:500:56:53

She's innocent,

0:56:530:56:55

she is very clever

0:56:550:56:58

and, um...

0:56:580:57:00

she is looking forward to be married, which is OK.

0:57:000:57:04

Strauss is, um...

0:57:100:57:11

..a master in putting the music in the right place.

0:57:140:57:19

I think the role of Sophie is written in a certain way

0:57:190:57:24

that it makes Sophie very young.

0:57:240:57:27

Strauss uses the orchestra and the various sections and instruments

0:57:370:57:41

as vocalists, every inch as much of the singers -

0:57:410:57:45

they play an equal part.

0:57:450:57:47

First of all, the way Strauss composed operas,

0:57:520:57:55

he would read the libretto and when he was reading the libretto

0:57:550:57:58

he would put in little scraps of

0:57:580:58:02

melody in the side of the column, so...

0:58:020:58:04

At the Presentation of the Rose, in Act Two,

0:58:070:58:11

he would think of that, or...

0:58:110:58:12

Something like that.

0:58:140:58:15

That is to say he has little bit of themes like this...

0:58:150:58:19

And so forth, which he then puts on a sort of conveyor belt

0:58:190:58:24

of symphonic continuity,

0:58:240:58:25

but for that, he has to go to the beginning

0:58:250:58:29

and then compose through logically.

0:58:290:58:31

I suppose the cue for orchestral illustration

0:58:310:58:34

of human emotions really for Strauss

0:58:340:58:36

comes particularly from Wagner and the use of the orchestra

0:58:360:58:40

and of course the leitmotifs.

0:58:400:58:42

I mean, for the Marschallin, you have this extremely short motif,

0:58:470:58:52

you first hear it in the passage where the lower strings are sighing.

0:58:520:58:55

And... # Dee-da-dum... #

0:58:550:58:58

They're sighing away there, but it's the solo wind,

0:58:580:59:01

you've got the oboe and then the clarinet and then the flute going...

0:59:010:59:05

# Da da-dee dum

0:59:050:59:08

# Da da-dee dum... #

0:59:080:59:09

And that motif goes through 100 manifestations

0:59:090:59:13

of the Marschallin's countless changing moods.

0:59:130:59:16

Strauss knew immediately the importance of the linking,

0:59:250:59:29

of how motifs would link material in these operas.

0:59:290:59:32

Of course he uses that knowledge with his knowledge of Wagner to actually

0:59:320:59:37

understand how the motovic material works in Rosenkavalier.

0:59:370:59:41

When they're indicating a character, when they're indicating a mood,

0:59:571:00:01

it's understanding those small, important moments

1:00:011:00:04

within the score as well,

1:00:041:00:05

whilst managing to take that whole global approach.

1:00:051:00:09

Actually, the orchestra is the storyteller.

1:00:091:00:12

The orchestra tells everything.

1:00:121:00:14

You don't know your character yet? No. OK, so...

1:00:221:00:27

This is you.

1:00:271:00:28

A lot of people think Glyndebourne is just about singers

1:00:321:00:34

and people working on the stage.

1:00:341:00:37

I'm just going to raise it up and down...

1:00:371:00:39

But we're very lucky here that we're able to attract

1:00:391:00:42

some exceptional craftspeople to come and work here at Glyndebourne.

1:00:421:00:45

We have amazing props makers,

1:00:461:00:49

costume makers, stage crew,

1:00:491:00:52

people of all kinds of skills and crafts.

1:00:521:00:56

And in a way I think we add something extra

1:00:561:00:58

to the whole community of Sussex by bringing these very wonderful

1:00:581:01:01

specialists into the community here.

1:01:011:01:03

Often they start here commuting from London, then they love Sussex

1:01:031:01:06

and they come down here and stay.

1:01:061:01:08

We have 150 full-time posts here at Glyndebourne.

1:01:101:01:14

But that expands to well over 500 in the summer.

1:01:141:01:18

It's like a real... craft industry here,

1:01:221:01:26

cos everybody's so good at it and so wants to do it.

1:01:261:01:29

It's quite unusual to find such a level of skill.

1:01:291:01:34

The dye shop, the men's tailoring department, you know,

1:01:341:01:37

there's not one single element which doesn't work.

1:01:371:01:42

Richard Jones was really keen

1:01:421:01:45

that we didn't end up with a very 18th century

1:01:451:01:48

kind of look for everything.

1:01:481:01:50

Really high wigs or all those sort of drapes.

1:01:501:01:54

And also to try and allow the performers to still be themselves.

1:01:541:02:01

This is a smaller cut of the fleur-de-lis print

1:02:011:02:05

we did for the servants, which was basically a copy of the set,

1:02:051:02:10

but Nicky added fleur-de-lis that she'd found online

1:02:101:02:12

and we went to a traditional printers, locally.

1:02:121:02:15

So you've got random images of fleur-de-lis on top of

1:02:151:02:17

Paul Steinberg's design of the set, which then...

1:02:171:02:21

Jenny did the orange - we had an orange velvet fleur-de-lis here

1:02:211:02:25

and lots of different trims and tassels all in orange,

1:02:251:02:28

which upstairs magicked into fabulous costumes.

1:02:281:02:31

THEY SING IN GERMAN

1:02:311:02:33

I was thinking about the fact that you have so many people on stage,

1:02:421:02:47

but she still has to stand out.

1:02:471:02:49

And I had found a reference for something that was very inspiring -

1:02:491:02:53

this is a fashion photograph -

1:02:531:02:54

and it was really inspiring because it was incredibly white

1:02:541:02:57

and the 18th century is associated with white skin, white wigs.

1:02:571:03:02

And I also wanted to really zap the colour up against the white,

1:03:021:03:06

so it was like a really extreme contrast.

1:03:061:03:09

And in the end I found these 19th century seed packets

1:03:091:03:13

that we then took to the printers.

1:03:131:03:15

You know, it's really toxic colour onstage, which is absolutely spot-on.

1:03:171:03:20

THEY SING IN GERMAN

1:03:201:03:22

'It's just a lovely chance to, not to try and modernise Rosenkavalier,

1:03:331:03:38

'because that's impossible.

1:03:381:03:39

'The difficulty is with a role like that,

1:03:461:03:48

'it's fixed in people's minds as to what they expect.'

1:03:481:03:51

Some of the greatest singers have sung her and my job, I guess,

1:03:541:03:58

is to try to...

1:03:581:04:00

acknowledge that and be aware of it

1:04:001:04:02

but also to steer the audience in a new direction.

1:04:021:04:06

She's very strong and I think that perhaps in a lot of past productions

1:04:161:04:20

that hasn't come across so well

1:04:201:04:23

and she's become a bit of a victim of her own circumstance

1:04:231:04:27

and I really wanted to try and bring more positivity to her, really.

1:04:271:04:32

I think there can be an expectation that the Marschallin should be

1:04:321:04:36

played, by the actress, as someone who goes on to a sort of

1:04:361:04:40

default setting of... depression and dignity.

1:04:401:04:43

And I've...

1:04:431:04:45

..tried to work against that slightly.

1:04:461:04:49

'It was an interesting process trying to find what drives her.'

1:04:591:05:04

'She's very well aware of her position in society.

1:05:071:05:10

'She knows that she cannot step outside of the boundaries,'

1:05:101:05:14

so she's coming to terms with that in the piece,

1:05:141:05:18

coming to terms with her role and how she can fulfil that

1:05:181:05:23

but still be happy, still be a happy human being.

1:05:231:05:27

And she is not an old woman. She's still beautiful, she's still young.

1:05:271:05:30

But she is feeling the ageing process

1:05:301:05:33

and the specific situation with Octavian being a younger lover,

1:05:331:05:38

and later, Sophie the girl he falls in love with,

1:05:381:05:41

leads her to reflect on the larger issues of time and impermanence.

1:05:411:05:46

Marschallin is Hofmannsthal's mouthpiece for this sense of -

1:05:491:05:52

das Gleitende, he called it -

1:05:521:05:54

where everything is in flux.

1:05:541:05:56

The Marschallin is a middle-aged woman

1:05:591:06:02

having an affair with a young man of 17.

1:06:021:06:04

'And effectively trying to stop the clocks by doing it.'

1:06:101:06:14

'The libretto is shot through with endless references

1:06:271:06:31

'to the present, the past, the future.'

1:06:311:06:35

When she talks to Octavian, she says,

1:06:381:06:41

"It's going to be heute oder morgen - today or tomorrow."

1:06:411:06:47

Time is such an important part of...

1:06:551:06:59

Well, the Marschallin talks about it and talks about

1:06:591:07:02

sometimes she gets up and stops all the clocks.

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She can't believe how time...

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You're in it and then all of a sudden it just slips away

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through your fingers and...

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Like sand running through a timer, you know?

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The text is so, so wonderful, the Hofmannsthal text.

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Absolutely extraordinary. And I think...

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Strauss' music is glorious

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but the text is so...relevant to everybody, really.

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I think everyone can identify with the Marschallin, who says,

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"How can it be that...

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"that I was the young girl and I shall be the old woman,

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"and I'm still the same?"

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Oh.

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Gets me every time when I say that because it's obvious,

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absolutely obvious, but so true. And you don't...

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You don't realise it.

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I think when you're young you think you're going to grow up

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or you're going to grow old, but inside you're just the same,

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it's just everybody else...

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SHE LAUGHS

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REPORTER: After rehearsal,

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the cast could relax in the lovely grounds, which are as much a part

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of a Glyndebourne festival as the performances themselves.

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We live in an artistic commune here, really.

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I mean, the house is filled with people

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who are involved with the operas.

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That's not something you see in every opera house.

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I think that really promotes a very high level of creativity.

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Cos when you're happy you can create.

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When I first came here, people asked me, "Where are you working?"

1:08:401:08:43

And I'd say, and they'd say "Where's that? What does it do? Really?"

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"Sussex? An opera company? No, you're kidding."

1:08:471:08:50

When I think of what I learned down here - learned to drive,

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I learned to swim.

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All kinds of things. You were here and that was it.

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Great parties, amazing parties. Especially with the chorus.

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But... It was a life. It was a way of life.

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I enjoyed very much this opera house.

1:09:211:09:23

What is very beautiful after the rehearsing - the rehearsal -

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you can go out and see the sheep...

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..beautiful nature... It's just wonderful.

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It's like a little piece of heaven.

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Got these wonderful gardens to walk in, there's fresh air,

1:09:401:09:43

you've time to let your head relax.

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You have countryside and you have the sheep.

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I remember when I first came to Glyndebourne,

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the first thing I remember were the sheep in the fields.

1:09:561:09:59

It's a bit like planet opera and that can become quite oppressive.

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It's a little opera bubble, you know? And it's wonderful.

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You know, if you were in London it's a little different.

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You might be working in the morning

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and a bit in the afternoon

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and then you're somewhere else, in a different world, in a sense.

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Well, when you're living at Glyndebourne, this doesn't happen.

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I mean, I live in South London and you can sort of long for

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the trains to draw in at the junction on Vauxhall

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just so that you can smell the streets.

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It's very peaceful but then when you go inside to Glyndebourne, you're

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working with the music and I just think it's really nice to have both.

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You can want to run away, yeah.

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REPORTER: By the croquet lawn, Mr Harvey, the head gardener, trims

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the flowers in the white border he's designed for this year's display.

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'People always think this idea of presenting a silver rose

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'to the daughter's nobility

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'is a long-established Viennese tradition.'

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Hofmannsthal made it up.

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He based it on the papal tradition of the church, the Pope,

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presenting a golden rose to the daughters of the nobility.

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And, of course, when Octavian arrives, Strauss gives him

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a great operatic set piece,

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which we sit back and think, "This is wonderful."

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But, of course, as Adorno, the great Marxist critic said,

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"What is the offer? It's merely a fake rose."

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It's not a real one at all, it's a silver rose, it's a fake.

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And, of course, it is an incredibly poetic idea.

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I mean, people are manufacturing silver roses for people

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who love Rosenkavalier, you know, because it's such a beautiful thing.

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'One of the things I love most is the presentation of the rose because'

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Richard has done this extraordinary thing of slightly refocusing

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that particular scene, so the moment and the beginning

1:12:181:12:21

when Sophie and Octavian usually fall in love with each other,

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when they're stammering and stuttering their lines out,

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actually becomes a little piece of artifice of the sort of ceremony

1:12:281:12:31

they're going through,

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where they actually had to be prompted to say those lines.

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But then when they really do fall in love,

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the choreography of this moment where the two of them are just rocking

1:12:381:12:41

gently from side to side, I think, is just so beautiful and so touching.

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'The presentation of the rose is Octavian's key,

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'which is F-sharp major.'

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And G-major, which is Sophie's key

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Coming together...

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F-major. And so forth.

1:13:181:13:21

Sophie and he are perfectly aware that it's an artificial rose -

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it's been made, as the music is being made.

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The point is that there has to be,

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though, an emotional unity between all the characters.

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And Hofmannsthal, when he wrote this marvellous,

1:13:411:13:45

short summary of Rosenkavalier,

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he comes up with a phrase at the end - "Eintracht der Lebendigen,"

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the unity of everybody living.

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Octavian is the glue between Ochs and the Countess, for example,

1:13:561:14:01

and he comes together with Sophie,

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and all of the characters on the stage,

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right down to the serving maids and so forth -

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they are together in this wonderful unity.

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'Everybody...

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'depends on each other to have any kind of future.'

1:14:191:14:23

In any kind of good existence, we all must depend on each other.

1:14:241:14:28

And Richard's made that exceptionally clear.

1:14:281:14:30

Yeah, it's a very delicate, lovely piece but, actually, is quite heavy

1:14:301:14:35

and quite strong and probably could cause someone some kind of anguish.

1:14:351:14:39

'Rosenkavalier is the opening production of the 2014 season

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'and it's just one of six productions and 76 performances

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'we're doing at Glyndebourne this summer.'

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REPORTER: At Victoria Station in the middle of the afternoon it is unusual

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to see one's fellow travellers in evening dress.

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But the train for Glyndebourne leaves at 3:45,

1:15:041:15:07

so as to be in time for the evening performance.

1:15:071:15:09

John Christie wanted people to dress in evening dress

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to respect the artists. He said, "The artists have made an effort

1:15:171:15:20

"and we as audience members should make an effort."

1:15:201:15:23

Mother's coming by car.

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Mm. Father told me.

1:15:281:15:30

The first night of the season is the reopening of the theatre

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that has been closed for several months.

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So there's a huge amount of preparation that is needed

1:15:371:15:39

just to start the festival off again each year.

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I suppose we're one of those organisations where we want

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everything to appear very smooth

1:15:441:15:46

and there's a lot of paddling that goes on underneath.

1:15:461:15:48

So first night's completely nerve-racking for everybody here,

1:15:481:15:51

not just the artists on the stage,

1:15:511:15:53

but actually let's not forget the people working front of house.

1:15:531:15:56

I will be over there and when I give clearance to the stage manager

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to say we're ready, I will cue the doors to close on that side.

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So you all just need to keep an eye on those doors.

1:16:051:16:08

And as soon as that one closes, everybody just follow suit.

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OK? Great.

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And is there anything anybody wants to ask me, tell me? Say?

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MAN: We haven't had any payslips for the last week.

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No payslips for last week? OK. We were paid...

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You were paid, that's the main thing.

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REPORTER: Outside the station,

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a number of coaches stand by to take the London audience

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to the Sussex opera house, in time for the evening performance.

1:16:301:16:34

Follow that bus. Glyndebourne? Right, sir.

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It's incredibly important that people come here

1:16:551:16:57

and have a great experience when they arrive here.

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And Jules is one of those remarkable people who cares

1:17:001:17:04

passionately about how people feel when they're here and has

1:17:041:17:10

extraordinary levels of customer service, which we're very proud of.

1:17:101:17:13

The audience come off the train, get onto the bus,

1:17:151:17:17

and they get brought up to Glyndebourne

1:17:171:17:20

and at the end of the evening they're taken back to Lewes Station.

1:17:201:17:23

This is our coach park and it's also for chauffeurs.

1:17:231:17:28

You can walk wherever you want to

1:17:351:17:37

and you can bring whatever you want to for a picnic.

1:17:371:17:40

We see lots of people here with very lavish picnics. You can come here

1:17:401:17:43

with your sandwiches from Marks Spencer if you want to.

1:17:431:17:46

And I've done that myself in the past before I worked here

1:17:461:17:48

and it's a very easy way and relaxed way of spending the interval.

1:17:481:17:53

And indeed, if you have a simple picnic,

1:17:531:17:54

you've got even more time to walk around the grounds.

1:17:541:17:57

It's a perfect Glyndebourne day - hot and sunny.

1:17:571:18:01

A lot of our audience go to the restaurants

1:18:031:18:06

but some people bring their own picnics.

1:18:061:18:09

And people have their favourite spots as well, so they try and get here

1:18:111:18:16

as early as they can to grab their favourite place.

1:18:161:18:20

The shows start quite early, so it's very light,

1:18:231:18:26

it's sunny outside and the audiences are there,

1:18:261:18:29

you can hear the audience having their picnic

1:18:291:18:32

and doing all of that stuff.

1:18:321:18:34

So it is quite hard to focus.

1:18:341:18:36

What I'm interested in is value for money.

1:18:361:18:39

I've been here once before and that was six years ago.

1:18:391:18:42

I've been saving up to come back again and tonight's the night.

1:18:421:18:45

Look, the first thing to say is that opera is a very expensive art form,

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wherever it's put on, Glyndebourne or anywhere else.

1:18:481:18:51

I think people often don't do the maths

1:18:511:18:53

when they go to an opera performance and realise that, you know,

1:18:531:18:57

take this Rosenkavalier, there are 70 people in the pit

1:18:571:18:59

playing in the LPO, there's a chorus of 30,

1:18:591:19:02

there's another 15-odd principals, there's probably six actors,

1:19:021:19:05

and there's always people backstage.

1:19:051:19:07

Did you want to go in today? Is it one or two? Just for me.

1:19:071:19:11

Yes, I think I've got one for you.

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Being a conductor, you probably like to be over the pit.

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PA SYSTEM: Mr Ticciati, Mr Ticciati, this is your call.

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Thankfully, I'm not singing.

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BELL RINGS Ah, the bell.

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Now for your initiation. Perhaps we'll see you in the interval.

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BELL RINGS

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First bell.

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Blue circle, box G.

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Quickest way is just to go straight ahead there, up to the next level.

1:19:411:19:44

OK.

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He's just gone...I mean, he'll be back in a second. OK. That's fine.

1:20:111:20:15

INDISTINCT CHATTER

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You guys don't have a Swish Car, do you?

1:20:461:20:47

Jules...

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I'm so sorry.

1:20:561:20:58

INDISTINCT RADIO CHATTER

1:20:581:21:01

OK, all the doors are closed now.

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APPLAUSE

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OPERATIC MUSIC BEGINS

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A Broadway show doctor says, "Always put in an amazing 11 o'clock number."

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And, of course, it's got the best 11 o'clock number of all shows

1:21:541:21:59

in the form of this trio between these three women.

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THEY SING IN GERMAN

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'Which is launched by the Marschallin'

1:22:101:22:12

in this incredibly taxing opening phrase.

1:22:121:22:16

It's just so iconic and everyone's waiting for that line.

1:22:171:22:21

'It is one of the only moments where we just stand and sing.'

1:22:381:22:41

SHE SINGS IN GERMAN

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'But then, of course, Sophie dovetails with her

1:23:001:23:03

'and at times goes above her.'

1:23:031:23:04

'Strauss just pulls it all together

1:23:091:23:13

'and produces this extraordinary, affecting moment.'

1:23:131:23:18

THEY SING IN GERMAN

1:23:181:23:21

'And the way he blends the three voices together in that trio

1:23:241:23:27

'is so beautiful.'

1:23:271:23:29

'The female voices shamelessly consume you.'

1:23:341:23:37

'And they're always rising phrases and climaxes'

1:23:421:23:45

and it goes on and up and up.

1:23:451:23:48

I'm not very articulate about describing music, I just...

1:23:481:23:52

I just love it and it seems absolutely...

1:23:521:23:56

..right and perfect to me for what he's describing.

1:23:571:24:01

THEY SING IN GERMAN

1:24:011:24:03

'The Marschallin is engaging in a soliloquy with us

1:24:081:24:11

'of remembering things she said in the first act -'

1:24:111:24:13

' "I've got to give up this boy,"

1:24:131:24:15

' "He's got to go off with this beautiful girl and they're going to

1:24:151:24:18

' "marry and I've got to realise that I'm getting older."

1:24:181:24:21

'So, in a sense, it is through her eyes.'

1:24:211:24:22

It is the farewell to an older world.

1:24:221:24:26

And she realises that she has got to move into a new kind of life.

1:24:261:24:30

THEY SING IN GERMAN

1:24:301:24:32

'I had to really think carefully about how I was going to not allow

1:24:351:24:39

'that to affect me and not allow yourself to get

1:24:391:24:42

'too emotionally involved, personally involved.'

1:24:421:24:44

And that's something which, as a singer,

1:24:441:24:48

is crucial because if you let yourself go,

1:24:481:24:51

emotionally, you can't sing, you know?

1:24:511:24:54

And nobody wants to see a weeping soprano

1:24:541:24:56

struggling their way through the trio of Rosenkavalier.

1:24:561:24:59

THEY SING IN GERMAN

1:24:591:25:01

'Strauss, he understood very well a woman's soul.

1:25:061:25:10

The feeling of a young woman like Sophie.

1:25:101:25:12

The feeling of an older woman like the Marschallin.

1:25:151:25:18

'Octavian, he is in such a difficult position.'

1:25:221:25:26

THEY SING IN GERMAN

1:25:261:25:29

'He's not over the Marschallin but he has to let her go.

1:25:291:25:31

'And he knows she's going to walk out that door,'

1:25:311:25:33

he knows his heart will break, yet he knows that the possible

1:25:331:25:37

love of his life is just standing on the other side of the room.

1:25:371:25:41

So torn. And he sees that both the women are torn.

1:25:411:25:45

He's hurt both of them.

1:25:451:25:47

And he can't help both of them.

1:25:471:25:49

And it's just this emotional roller coaster

1:25:541:25:56

with the most incredible music.

1:25:561:26:00

The most incredible music.

1:26:001:26:03

SHE SINGS IN GERMAN

1:26:031:26:06

'And it was the music that was played at Strauss' funeral.'

1:26:211:26:25

Where all where all the sopranos fell out, one by one,

1:26:251:26:28

cos they were all in tears.

1:26:281:26:30

It's wonderfully appropriate this season is dedicated to George.

1:26:411:26:45

Rosenkavalier, it was our 25th anniversary production,

1:26:451:26:49

it's here in our 80th year.

1:26:491:26:51

It was one of his favourite operas.

1:26:511:26:54

He was listening to the music the night before he died.

1:26:541:26:57

And I just think it's magical.

1:27:011:27:04

I will miss him for his choice of repertoire, directors.

1:27:071:27:11

He always had something to say about it.

1:27:111:27:13

He knew more about opera than anyone I know.

1:27:131:27:15

And I will miss him and his wisdom.

1:27:151:27:18

APPLAUSE

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I hope in 80 years from now people will be looking back and saying,

1:27:281:27:32

"It hasn't changed very much."

1:27:321:27:34

Because although we innovate and we find new ways of doing things,

1:27:341:27:39

the core of Glyndebourne has always been exactly the same.

1:27:391:27:42

And I often think,

1:27:421:27:44

"What would John Christie think now if he looked at Glyndebourne?"

1:27:441:27:47

And I think he would say,

1:27:471:27:48

"That's great, they're still doing fantastic work.

1:27:481:27:51

"They're still giving their audiences an amazing experience.

1:27:511:27:54

"They're still looking after young artists."

1:27:541:27:56

Which was very important to him.

1:27:561:27:59

But the thing I think he would be really surprised about would be

1:27:591:28:02

the range and breadth of what we're doing.

1:28:021:28:06

And I hope he would be absolutely thrilled we're reaching

1:28:061:28:09

a vast audience that in 1934 he could never even have dreamt of.

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