The Joy of the Bee Gees


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-Ah, the reasons for our popularity?

-Er...

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Ooh. HE LAUGHS

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I think that's impossible to answer.

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Really impossible. Nobody really knows what the reasons are.

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# Feel the city breakin' and everybody shakin'

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# I'm a-stayin' alive, stayin' alive

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# Ah, ah, ah, ah, stayin' alive... #

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The Bee Gees. They're more than a flourish of falsettos.

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# Stayin' ali-i-i...

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# ..i-i-i...

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# ..i-i-i-ive... #

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They're not just teeth, tans and tight trousers.

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Why is it, do you think, that millions of people love your music?

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# Cos we're living in a world of fools... #

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There's so much more to the Bee Gees

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than Saturday Night Fever and office parties.

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That looks gay.

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You put them on at a party and everybody's dancing.

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It doesn't matter how old they are.

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# And it's me you need to show

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-# How deep is your love?

-How deep is your love... #

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Look beyond the white suits and satin. The Bee Gees are pop royalty.

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I think the Bee Gees should be revered

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in the way the Beatles are revered. And they're not.

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Back in the '60s, they were pop balladeers.

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The Bee Gees were heartbreakers.

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# You don't know what it's like

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# Baby, you don't know what it's like

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# To love somebody... #

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These are some of the most moving,

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touching lyrics, I think, ever put to paper.

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These were geniuses at communicating emotion, in different ways,

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across different decades, to different generations.

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The brothers Gibb. They were all graft and craft,

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but when they united in song and harmony,

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the Bee Gees were pure class.

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# Nobody gets too much heaven no more... #

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Creating these melodies like spun gold out of the thin air.

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How did they do it? It is extraordinary.

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From pop to soul to disco, we walk the line between the naffness,

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the genius, and, yes, the joy of the Bee Gees.

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# I just got to get a message to you... #

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Some of our songs, I never really want to listen to.

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And some songs, I think, "Oh, boy, that was a good record.

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You know? "How did that happen?" HE LAUGHS

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# Ah-ah-ah

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# Ah-ah ah ah ah

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# Ah-ah ah ah ah ah-ah ahhh...

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# One hour

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# One more hour and my life will be through... #

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STACCATO PIANO MUSIC

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In the '50s, variety was king, with shows for all the family,

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complete with impersonators, dancing girls, and ventriloquists.

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Just look at this face, eh?

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A mean, melancholic misfit.

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LAUGHTER

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And this hotbed of talent

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is where the brothers Gibb cut their milk teeth.

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There is a side of the Bee Gees' music that, you know,

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you could say was destined for cabaret from the start.

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You can laugh at the fact they were performing in little suits

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when they were young kids, but they were in showbusiness

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right from the beginning,

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and showbusiness meant the whole business of show.

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From an early age, music was in their blood, and their dad Hugh,

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a band leader on the Mecca club circuit, was their mentor.

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Dad used to play the Russell Street club in Manchester,

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and he told everybody at this club that his three kids were singing

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and harmonising, and they said, "Well, bring them along to the club.

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"As long as you're with them, they'll be OK.

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"They're underage, but bring them anyway."

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And we were three kids, you know? Never work with kids and dogs.

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They'll steal everything.

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'Come over to the sunny side now.

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'Australia, a great place for families.

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'Opportunity for you.

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'Fine for your wife. Great for your children.'

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# Here comes summer

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# School is out... #

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The Gibb family took up the offer to become "Ten Pound Poms",

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and their trip to Oz would inform their songwriting for years to come.

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We went on this beautiful white ship called the Fairsea.

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We saw things like Egypt and India and the Suez Canal, and Sri Lanka.

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That's incredible for kids to experience that,

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and I've always felt that was really what kick-started the creativity,

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you know, seeing these different cultures at such a young age.

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The adventure had begun.

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# Let the sun shine bright on my happy summer home... #

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Encouraged by their dad, the brothers formed a band,

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and toured Queensland's holiday resorts and dives...

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# Come on and hear, come on and hear

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# It's the best band in the land... #

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We did the Sandgate Hotel, and it was a galvanised roof,

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and the water was pouring in onto the stage.

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Like, not just raining, pouring in.

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And we had to stand there, with water pouring,

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soaking and singing, and people sitting in front of us fighting.

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Not standing, but punching each other sitting down.

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..until the young brothers caught the eye of TV producers.

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Here are some of the boys I'm looking for. The Bee Gees.

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Barry here, the leader of the group. Come here.

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Barry Gibb, and your young brothers. Now, come on, who are you?

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Which is which? You're twins, eh?

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-I'm Robin.

-Robin.

-And Maurice.

-And Maurice.

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Barry was tall, good-looking lad, you know.

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And then there was Robin and Maurice,

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who were these short little dudes, you know?

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And they played a guitar, and they had all little high voices.

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# Ah-ah-ah...

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# I'll speak long and sing long

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# Cos time is passing by

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# I'll drift along and breeze along just like a butterfly... #

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They were looked upon as more of a novelty act, you know, then?

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And people could... People realised their talent,

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but it just wasn't taken all that seriously.

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Growing up down under,

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their songs took inspiration from old school America.

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# Bye-bye, love

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# Bye-bye, happiness... #

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With their clean-cut looks and harmonies,

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they harked back to the '50s...

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# Wine and women and song will only make me sad

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# Love and kisses and hugs, the thing I never had... #

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..until they were inspired by only the biggest band in the world.

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What a day it was at Adelaide airport.

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Arriving to meet the citizens were John Lennon,

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two other Beatle regulars, and Jimmie Nicol.

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You've missed the ashtray!

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Paul, what do you expect to find here in Australia?

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Australians. THEY ALL LAUGH

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The feeling, the actual vibration that was going on in the culture,

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it changed everybody. You know, it changed hair, it changed clothes.

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Everything changed, and no-one knew why,

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but they all had to follow this thing.

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# Where is the sun

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# That shone on my head... #

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Spicks And Specks was the first record

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that went to number one in Perth.

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We thought, "Something's happening. Something's happening."

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# All of my life

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# I call yesterday

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# The spicks and the specks of my life gone away... #

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By 1967, they had released 11 singles in Australia,

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but for the Bee Gees, London was calling.

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We had to get to England. We had to be a part of it,

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and I remember my father and us having a really big argument

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with the executives at Festival Records,

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because we didn't want to stay.

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We had to make it internationally one way or another.

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We knew that in some way, that was our destiny.

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# Let me take you down

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# Cos I'm going to

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# Strawberry fields... #

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When we arrived in England was the week of release of Strawberry Fields,

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and that was a shock to the system, everybody's system, you know?

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And Penny Lane, and...

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That was the drive. "Oh, God," you know,

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"they've raised the bar again."

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You know? How do these boys, how do these guys do this, you know?

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And everybody's got to aspire to that now.

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# Penny Lane, there is a barber showing photographs... #

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Ever ambitious, the Bee Gees went straight to the top.

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Epstein, of course, at the time, was ruling the roost, you know,

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as far as all the bands were, the pop bands were concerned.

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And the Bee Gees were trying to make their way, and so was Robert.

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Epstein passed them on to his Aussie business partner,

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impresario Robert Stigwood.

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He heard them singing on the steps outside his office,

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and thought he'd found the new Beatles,

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and of course, people probably laughed, as they do.

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There we were. Going to names, being signed to names.

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Being signed to the Beatles' organisation.

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And being in those offices while the Beatles, one or the other,

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would walk through. It was just incredible.

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The Bee Gees are one of those bands that could,

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without Robert Stigwood, could have easily never been anything.

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In anybody else's hands, you may never have heard of them again.

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In 1967, the Beatles were it,

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and the charts were full of male beat groups.

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# Ya-ya ya ya ya ya ya-a-ay... #

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# No milk today, it wasn't always so

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# The company was gay... #

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With the Fab Four as his template, Stigwood wanted a four-piece band,

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so he roped in another Aussie with boyish good looks, Colin Peterson.

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But the brothers Gibb didn't stop at four.

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Maurice owed me 25 bucks,

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so he said, "No, we haven't got any money either, mate.

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"We just arrived and we're skint as well,

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"but we've just been signed up by this guy called Robert Stigwood,

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"and so why don't you come and play guitar?"

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I was really not wanted.

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It was only Barry that said to Robert,

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"We want Vince to be," you know, "a full member of the band."

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And, um, I became a Bee Gee.

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With all five Bee Gees in place, the boys now had to deliver the hits...

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That was the highest point of pressure in our lives.

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"How do we have a hit in England? How do we do that?"

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..and their first single chose an unlikely inspiration.

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Just after nine o'clock this morning,

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as prayers were ending at Pantglas Junior and Infant School,

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this mountain, a coal slag half a mile high,

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began to slide towards the little town of Aberfan.

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We went out and sat on the stairs where the elevator was

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and the power went off, and so in the dark,

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we sort of proceeded down that path,

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the idea that you could be in a mine and you could be isolated

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and not know what's going on outside.

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# In the event of something happening to me

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# There is something I would like you all to see

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# It's just a photograph of someone that I knew

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# Have you seen my wife, Mr Jones? #

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With their eyes on the US, Stigwood and the record company

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changed Have You Seen My Wife, Mr Jones? to New York Mining Disaster.

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At the time, I think they were,

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you know, "What's he's singing about? New York mining disaster?"

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"It's a strange subject for a song."

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The whole content of those lyrics were quite unusual.

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That's one of the main songs that will bring tears to my eyes.

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Their songwriting is absolutely from the heart.

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It's wide open and exposed

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and that's exactly why I love them.

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That's brave beyond belief.

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# Or have they given up and all gone home to bed

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# Thinking those who once existed must be dead?

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# Have you seen my wife, Mr Jones? #

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They'd proved they were original songwriters,

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but it didn't hurt to sound like the Beatles.

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When New York Mining Disaster came out in America,

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a lot of people thought it was the Beatles.

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I think they were always seen as arrivistes as well, the Bee Gees,

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the kind of people that are doing

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something that people view as sort of ersatz.

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Barry's a great sort of pasticher of John Lennon's songwriting style.

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It makes me think of Oasis

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because they're trying to do something similar,

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they're sort of copying that kind of way that Lennon wrote songs,

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but he does it incredibly well.

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# Don't go talking too loud, you'll cause a landslide

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# Mr Jones. #

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New York Mining Disaster and the Bee Gees

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didn't quite chime with the Summer of Love...

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-# Let's go

-Let's go

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-# To San Francisco

-Let's go to San Francisco... #

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..so the brothers sought solace in soul.

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Robin's favourite artist and my favourite artist was Otis Redding.

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# Got to, got to, got to try a little tenderness... #

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It was never outside of our system.

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It was always something we loved, anyway.

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Sam and Dave, Stax, was very deep inside us.

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We weren't getting the opportunity to bring those things out

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because of the whole psychedelic syndrome

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and the idea that we had to do what everyone else was doing,

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which was to be something like the Beatles, you know.

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That was the way out for us, to be influenced by American music.

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We sort of found something

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and that was the idea of the emotional ballad,

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the idea of that was really working for us.

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# Hey, baby, you don't know what it's like

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# Baby, you don't know what it's like

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# To love somebody

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# To love somebody

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# The way I love you. #

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This emotional ballad was originally intended for Otis Redding.

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They were approaching it thinking of a solo artist, but there's something

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about the Bee Gees' delivery which accesses that emotion

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but not the way a soul artist would do that.

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# I'm a man

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# Can't you see what I am?

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# I live and I breathe for you... #

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For example, Otis' approach to soul, it's very much a punch in the face.

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"This is soul, feel my experience, feel my emotional angst,

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"join me in this journey,"

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whereas the Bee Gees' is much more...

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..much more a tickle.

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"I'm in pain. Feel my pain, join me in this suffering."

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And it creeps up on you, and then it grabs you.

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# No, you don't know what it's like

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# Baby, you don't know what it's like

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# To love somebody

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# To love somebody

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# The way I love you. #

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Songs of experience, you know, they're kids writing these songs

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that sound like they were written

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by, you know, sort of middle-aged men. That's quite odd.

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So while the hip kids were being far out, the nation was

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listening to the Bee Gees, and by September 1967,

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they hit the top of the charts.

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It was really an anti-flower power song.

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You know, it was us sort of playing with that idea.

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Tonight, Massachusetts, from the Bee Gees.

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CHEERING

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Suddenly we're on Top Of The Pops and Massachusetts was number one.

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# And the lights all went down in Massachusetts

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# The day I left her standing on the road. #

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The Bee Gees' dream was to make it internationally

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and their American soul influences and gift for balladry

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helped propel them stateside.

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This is the first time they've appeared on television

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in the United States, so ladies and gentlemen, let's give a warm hand,

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very talented group of men, the Bee Gees.

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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# Smile an everlasting smile

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# A smile can bring you near to me

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# Don't ever let me find you gone

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# Cos that would bring a tear to me. #

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The songs are very comforting. They're very comforting melodies.

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HE PLAYS: Words

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And then it does the same shape again,

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but it finishes differently, sort of...

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The harmonies are always moving and the melody is always moving,

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even though it's incredibly simple,

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but you're not bored by the simplicity

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because it's always changing.

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# It's only words

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# And words are all I have

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# To take your heart away. #

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It's the difference between that addictive quality within a melody

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and monotony, and they cut it just right,

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where you're just on the edge of, "Oh, I need a bit more of this."

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And before you can consider whether or not you've heard it too often,

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you're on the edge of wanting a bit more.

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# And words are all I have

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# To take your heart away. #

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The Bee Gees' ballads were emotional epics

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and while Barry made hearts flutter, Robin made the earth tremble.

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I really, really love Robin Gibbs' voice.

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I think he's sensational, one of the all-time greats.

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# I started a joke

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# Which started the whole world crying... #

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That heart and soul sliced open and rendered to a public, it's...

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..quite literally liver in a frying pan, isn't it? Delicious!

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# Oh, no

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# I started to cry

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# Which started the whole world laughing... #

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He sounds like he's about to cry.

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He sounds like he's about to burst into tears any moment.

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His mother said, "Whenever Robin sang, it made me feel cold."

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I think that's meant as a compliment.

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# I looked at the skies

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# Running my hands over my eyes

0:18:550:19:03

# And I fell out of bed

0:19:030:19:08

# Hurting my head

0:19:080:19:11

# From things that I'd said. #

0:19:110:19:15

He had this incredible, almost operatic type of voice,

0:19:150:19:19

and it was unique for him, and so he loved the really unhappy songs

0:19:190:19:25

because it lent itself to his way of singing.

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This very high voice with the vibrato,

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which nobody else was doing then.

0:19:310:19:32

# Oh... #

0:19:320:19:39

And when the voices of Robin, Barry and Maurice came together,

0:19:390:19:42

it was a magical blend.

0:19:420:19:45

What is unique about their vocal harmony?

0:19:450:19:47

Something that only the Bee Gees, the Beach Boys,

0:19:470:19:50

Everly Brothers - sibling harmonies. It's a very unique sound

0:19:500:19:53

and it's almost impossible for any other act to achieve that sound.

0:19:530:19:57

# I've just got to get a message to you

0:19:570:20:01

# Hold on, hold on... #

0:20:020:20:06

We'd hear them in the studio and take out the track and play back,

0:20:060:20:10

you'd just hear those vocals

0:20:100:20:11

and they would find something wrong with it and do it again

0:20:110:20:14

but it was heavenly to me.

0:20:140:20:15

# Hold on... #

0:20:150:20:18

There is something so gorgeous to me about families singing together.

0:20:180:20:22

Their voices sound so rich

0:20:220:20:25

and full and beautiful and their ballads were

0:20:250:20:29

such a great showcase for their songwriting and for their vocals.

0:20:290:20:33

# I told him I'm in no hurry... #

0:20:330:20:37

The brothers' voices may have mixed well,

0:20:380:20:40

but the internal power struggles were less harmonious.

0:20:400:20:43

Both Barry and Robin wanted to sing lead.

0:20:430:20:46

Whilst on the plus side they have the sibling voices,

0:20:460:20:49

sibling rivalry - that must be very difficult to deal with.

0:20:490:20:53

It's a very complex dynamic being in a family,

0:20:530:20:56

let alone trying to create with your siblings, and then have

0:20:560:21:01

an elder sibling, which at some point would have been dictating the rules.

0:21:010:21:06

Most of us, we grow up, move out of the house.

0:21:060:21:10

They were stitched together at the hip

0:21:100:21:12

because this was their business.

0:21:120:21:15

Whilst aching for a distance, a gap, breathing space between each of them,

0:21:150:21:20

they managed to translate that into a creative output, which is fragile.

0:21:200:21:24

If they get it wrong, it breaks.

0:21:240:21:26

# O-o-oh o-o-o-o-oh... #

0:21:270:21:33

But for the moment, the brothers stayed united

0:21:330:21:35

and they were unaware just how big the band had become in Europe.

0:21:350:21:40

SCREAMING

0:21:400:21:42

The Bee Gees, the most exciting sound in the world.

0:21:440:21:48

It was the first time we'd ever seen 12,000 kids in one place.

0:21:480:21:53

I remember that car. The car got crushed.

0:21:530:21:55

We were lying on our backs pushing the roof up, so it was pretty hairy.

0:21:550:22:00

But all we could think of was, "Wow, just like the Beatles!"

0:22:000:22:04

The desire to top the Beatles spurred them on

0:22:040:22:06

and the band's 1968 tour featured a 16-piece orchestra.

0:22:060:22:11

They could show to the audience that they could do live

0:22:110:22:15

what they could do on record, and believe me, they did do it live.

0:22:150:22:20

It was as good, every bit as good as the actual record.

0:22:200:22:24

# Talk about the life in Massachusetts... #

0:22:240:22:30

First time we played with them on a tour, which was '68 in Germany,

0:22:300:22:34

I was fascinated by the way the orchestra worked on stage, so I think

0:22:340:22:40

I watched them every night.

0:22:400:22:42

It was a bit of an introduction for me to that kind of performance.

0:22:420:22:47

In fact, it inspired me to have a go at that myself a year later.

0:22:470:22:51

# Upon the seventh seasick day

0:22:510:22:58

# We made our port of call... #

0:22:580:23:05

The Bee Gees had hit upon a winning formula, but their albums proved

0:23:070:23:11

they were unafraid to experiment in the studio.

0:23:110:23:13

The first few albums are filled with these songs,

0:23:150:23:17

it's just, "I don't know where this is coming from."

0:23:170:23:20

They're just really weird, inexplicable songs.

0:23:200:23:24

They're the product of very inexplicable, unique imaginations.

0:23:240:23:28

CHANTING IN LATIN

0:23:300:23:32

They came right out of left field.

0:23:350:23:37

Colin and I didn't know where they came from.

0:23:370:23:41

They were writing at incredible pace.

0:23:410:23:45

It was just flowing out of them because things were going well.

0:23:450:23:48

If one of us had an idea,

0:23:480:23:50

we would all jump in and stretch that out and make that work.

0:23:500:23:54

The guys used to just come up with songs,

0:23:540:23:56

like, pick them out of the air.

0:23:560:23:58

It was a sense that we psychically knew where each other was going,

0:23:580:24:02

because we knew each other,

0:24:020:24:03

and the greatest thing about songwriters

0:24:030:24:06

and why they don't last is because you have to be in the same zone.

0:24:060:24:10

Nobody has the relationship,

0:24:100:24:12

or has had the relationship that three brothers have.

0:24:120:24:15

# Every Christian lion-hearted man will show you... #

0:24:150:24:22

A few years back, I had a boring period doing not much,

0:24:230:24:27

but I decided to write out their lyrics.

0:24:270:24:30

I was really kind of enamoured by it.

0:24:300:24:33

There's actual poetry in these,

0:24:330:24:35

and the amount of work that went into the placing of the words,

0:24:350:24:39

and they're not unnecessary words,

0:24:390:24:41

it's not done just for vocal harmony or technique.

0:24:410:24:44

# I'm not trying to make history

0:24:550:24:59

# You could have been good to me... #

0:24:590:25:01

It's very difficult to kind of pigeonhole them.

0:25:010:25:03

They're sort of psychedelic but sort of not,

0:25:030:25:05

they're sort of middle of the road but sort of not.

0:25:050:25:08

They've just got a complete niche of their own.

0:25:080:25:10

# Mother

0:25:100:25:13

# I'm going to join the air force today... #

0:25:140:25:18

The band had their unconventional moments in the studio

0:25:180:25:20

while their image was also "different".

0:25:200:25:23

It was a very curious band, wasn't it?

0:25:230:25:26

I mean, you've got the Mr Handsome in the middle, you know,

0:25:260:25:30

with his absolute beautifully placed teeth...

0:25:300:25:33

Barry had the pin-up looks.

0:25:330:25:35

It was Barry, it was always Barry.

0:25:350:25:37

Maurice at one side...

0:25:370:25:40

An aimless, pleasant chap of no note...

0:25:400:25:44

Maurice didn't look very comfortable

0:25:440:25:48

standing doing synchronised movements with the rest of them.

0:25:480:25:51

He always looked much more comfortable with a guitar.

0:25:510:25:54

And then you've got Robin on the other side

0:25:540:25:57

with horses' gnashers, right,

0:25:570:26:00

worst hairdo in the world,

0:26:000:26:02

but incredible depth of character and soul.

0:26:020:26:06

# Let there be love... #

0:26:070:26:10

The brothers were pop stars and their lives became showbiz events.

0:26:100:26:14

But the child stars were ill-prepared

0:26:150:26:18

for the trappings of success and discovered that fame had a price.

0:26:180:26:21

We wanted to be famous, but we didn't know what came with that.

0:26:210:26:25

We never got into heavy drugs.

0:26:260:26:28

It was either grass, for Maurice it was drink,

0:26:280:26:32

and maybe to some extent for all of us it was amphetamines.

0:26:320:26:35

# Let there be love. #

0:26:350:26:39

In this whirlwind, the Bee Gees decided to embark on

0:26:390:26:42

the recording of Odessa, their take on the concept album.

0:26:420:26:45

As we get towards the end of the '60s,

0:26:450:26:48

other bands start to have an influence on the charts,

0:26:480:26:51

and most notably Pink Floyd now,

0:26:510:26:53

and the early Pink Floyd was very, very experimental.

0:26:530:26:56

# Float on a river for ever and ever

0:26:580:27:02

# Emily, Emily

0:27:020:27:04

# There is no other day... #

0:27:040:27:07

Odessa, I would say,

0:27:070:27:10

is probably their nod to a psychedelic Pink Floyd,

0:27:100:27:14

just a nod in the right direction

0:27:140:27:16

because they weren't a psychedelic band.

0:27:160:27:19

# Who is the girl with the crying face

0:27:190:27:25

# Looking at millions of signs? #

0:27:250:27:28

Fame, ego and excess were now getting to the band

0:27:300:27:33

and the Bee Gees seemed to be losing direction.

0:27:330:27:36

Odessa is a very...

0:27:360:27:38

It's a very difficult record to pigeonhole.

0:27:380:27:40

It opens with the title track,

0:27:400:27:43

written by Robin, and it's just insane.

0:27:430:27:46

# Baa baa, black sheep, you haven't any wool

0:27:460:27:53

# Captain Richardson left himself a lonely wife in Hull... #

0:27:530:28:00

It was starting to crumble.

0:28:000:28:03

Unfortunately, it was so sad, this beautiful thing was falling apart.

0:28:030:28:09

Stigwood made a fateful decision on the next single

0:28:090:28:12

and chose Barry's song as the A side,

0:28:120:28:15

leaving Robin on the flip side, which was to tear the band apart.

0:28:150:28:18

# When I was small

0:28:180:28:21

# And Christmas trees were tall

0:28:210:28:24

# We used to love while others used to play... #

0:28:260:28:31

I didn't make the choices about what the A side or B side were.

0:28:310:28:34

I used to hear these things third-hand, second-hand

0:28:340:28:37

and go, "What's going on?" And that's what led to the split,

0:28:370:28:41

really the obsession with Rob to be an individual.

0:28:410:28:44

I sensed that it was all over and I said to Colin,

0:28:440:28:48

I told Colin Peters, I said, "Mate, it's time to bail out."

0:28:480:28:52

And Colin said, "No, no, no, it's fine, it's fine, it's all great."

0:28:530:28:57

I said, "Well, see you later."

0:28:570:28:59

Not long after that, Robin bailed.

0:28:590:29:02

Then Colin bailed.

0:29:030:29:05

And then it was Barry and Maurice.

0:29:050:29:08

I figured at that point it was over,

0:29:080:29:10

you know, as brothers and friends, it just was no longer happening.

0:29:100:29:14

# But you and I

0:29:140:29:16

# Our love will never die

0:29:160:29:19

# But guess we'll cry come first of May. #

0:29:210:29:26

Odessa was released in 1969 while the Bee Gees splintered in public.

0:29:260:29:32

# Every single word has been spoken

0:29:320:29:38

# It's much too late to change the ways... #

0:29:410:29:47

There was a lot of music papers who always wanted you to say something

0:29:470:29:51

and as it turned out, they were setting Robin against me

0:29:510:29:54

and me against Robin

0:29:540:29:55

and these were things we'd never experienced in our lives.

0:29:550:29:58

I mean, you said things, but those things didn't have any meaning.

0:29:580:30:01

You just said them because you wanted to see your name in the paper,

0:30:010:30:05

you know. If that's ego, yeah. Yeah. And we were all doing that.

0:30:050:30:09

That was not a good time,

0:30:090:30:10

and so we separated for 15 months.

0:30:100:30:13

In 1970, Stigwood made amends and reunited the brothers,

0:30:140:30:17

this time as a trio.

0:30:170:30:19

The songwriting magic was still there.

0:30:190:30:22

Robin and Barry, who were the two that always

0:30:220:30:25

historically have the problem with each other,

0:30:250:30:28

meet, and set down and write, How Can You Mend A Broken Heart?

0:30:280:30:32

# I could never see tomorrow

0:30:320:30:38

# But I was never told about the sorrows

0:30:380:30:45

# And how can you mend a broken heart?

0:30:470:30:54

# How can you stop the rain from falling down?

0:30:560:31:01

# How can you stop the sun from shining?

0:31:020:31:08

# What makes the world go round? #

0:31:090:31:14

Emotional content is not about

0:31:140:31:16

relationships external to the group.

0:31:160:31:19

It is actually about these three men

0:31:190:31:24

that were boys...

0:31:240:31:25

..and their existence together.

0:31:270:31:30

# And how can you mend this broken man?

0:31:310:31:40

# How can a loser ever win?

0:31:400:31:43

# Please help me mend my broken heart

0:31:460:31:52

# And let me live again. #

0:31:530:31:57

But the comeback was short-lived

0:31:570:32:00

because in the early '70s, it was less about ballads.

0:32:000:32:03

MUSIC: Metal Guru by T Rex

0:32:030:32:05

# Yeah, yeah... #

0:32:050:32:08

Music now looked and sounded different...

0:32:100:32:13

# Metal guru, is it you?

0:32:130:32:15

# Metal guru, is it you? #

0:32:170:32:20

..and for the Bee Gees, the hits dried up.

0:32:200:32:23

By 1972, we were literally out the door, you know,

0:32:230:32:27

nobody was really interested, and that's...

0:32:270:32:29

..that's something that hits you very hard.

0:32:300:32:33

"Wow, no-one is interested.

0:32:330:32:35

"Nobody wants to play our record. What do we do?"

0:32:350:32:38

They'd gone from stardom to supper clubs,

0:32:480:32:50

but for the Bee Gees this was a variety homecoming of sorts.

0:32:500:32:54

HE LAUGHS

0:32:540:32:56

Northern English clubs, chicken in a basket, everybody drunk,

0:32:560:32:59

pretty much like early Australian audiences,

0:32:590:33:01

we didn't feel like we were out of sorts.

0:33:010:33:03

We felt quite happy - "OK, we'll do this, make a bit of money,

0:33:030:33:06

"put some food on the table."

0:33:060:33:08

# Run to me

0:33:080:33:11

# Whenever you're lonely... #

0:33:110:33:14

But Stigwood still believed in the brothers

0:33:140:33:16

and he saw their future in soul.

0:33:160:33:19

# Daydreaming and I'm thinking of you

0:33:190:33:22

# Daydreaming and I'm thinking of you... #

0:33:220:33:24

Who better to take them there than Aretha Franklin's producer,

0:33:240:33:27

Arif Mardin?

0:33:270:33:29

What Arif brought to them

0:33:290:33:32

was another approach to this emotional content.

0:33:320:33:35

This is soul from an American perspective.

0:33:350:33:38

We left the maudlin stuff, we left the romantic, heavy stuff behind,

0:33:380:33:41

and we sort of locked into what was happening with the Delfonics,

0:33:410:33:45

the falsetto singers, and we started to fall in love with that.

0:33:450:33:49

# All of the wind

0:33:490:33:51

# La-la-la-loving

0:33:510:33:55

# I love you... #

0:33:550:33:58

This is an American thing, this is a black thing.

0:33:580:34:01

We've got this male falsetto singing a ballad and he's not a eunuch.

0:34:010:34:06

This is a regular guy, albeit in tight trousers,

0:34:060:34:10

delivering a song which is emotional.

0:34:100:34:13

# Give

0:34:130:34:14

# All that you have to give... #

0:34:160:34:18

It's an accepted format - not amongst white bands,

0:34:180:34:22

this is an American gospel/soul thing

0:34:220:34:27

but Barry's discovered he has this capacity.

0:34:270:34:30

Barry discovered his falsetto

0:34:300:34:31

and he started writing for that kind of, for that genre.

0:34:310:34:35

-# Blaming it all

-Blaming it all

0:34:350:34:37

-# On the nights on Broadway

-Blaming on the nights of Broadway

0:34:370:34:41

# Singing them love songs... #

0:34:410:34:42

I thought, "OK, I don't mind making a fool of myself"

0:34:420:34:45

so I went out and did that, and everyone went, "Oh, my goodness."

0:34:450:34:50

That opened up the Pandora's box

0:34:500:34:52

because suddenly there was a sound on there that was magnificent.

0:34:520:34:56

It wasn't an attempt to deliver American black music.

0:34:560:34:58

It was an attempt, I think, to be comfortable within this new space.

0:34:580:35:03

Moving to America was all part of that narrative -

0:35:030:35:07

absorb your surroundings, absorb the culture,

0:35:070:35:11

absorb the sounds.

0:35:110:35:13

Arif helped them define the elements of the new Bee Gees sound.

0:35:230:35:27

During this time in the studio,

0:35:270:35:29

Barry not only discovered his falsetto,

0:35:290:35:31

but in 1975, the Bee Gees locked into their groove.

0:35:310:35:34

When you looked at the charts at that time, you think,

0:35:350:35:38

"Well, what are people really going for?"

0:35:380:35:41

And people wanted to dance.

0:35:410:35:43

There's this story that's told on the radio,

0:35:470:35:49

they're driving on the railroad track...

0:35:490:35:52

There's some legal requirement that every time one of the Bee Gees was interviewed,

0:35:530:35:56

-they'd mention driving...

-HE MIMICS TRAIN CHUGGING

0:35:560:35:59

It would go click-de-click-de-click...

0:36:010:36:03

And then it would stop.

0:36:030:36:05

And every night, we'd go over this, and it started sticking in my head.

0:36:050:36:08

That became in intro to Jive Talkin'.

0:36:080:36:10

# J-J-J-Jive talkin'

0:36:100:36:12

# Tellin' me lies

0:36:120:36:15

# Jive talkin'

0:36:150:36:17

# You wear a disguise... #

0:36:170:36:19

I love that little keyboard riff in it.

0:36:190:36:22

# Doo-doo-doo-doo-doo, doo-doo-doo... #

0:36:220:36:24

HE PLAYS PIANO RIFF FROM JIVE TALKIN'

0:36:240:36:26

# Doo-be-doo-be-doo Doo-be-doo-be-doo... #

0:36:310:36:33

Little handclap.

0:36:350:36:37

Doesn't get better than that.

0:36:370:36:39

# Oh, you're jive talkin'

0:36:390:36:42

# You're telling me lies, yeah

0:36:420:36:44

# Jive talkin'... #

0:36:440:36:46

That was a real breakthrough, Jive Talkin'.

0:36:460:36:48

We put it out on RSO without the name of the Bee Gees on it,

0:36:480:36:52

because by then, their stock had fallen so low

0:36:520:36:55

with radio stations in America, they weren't playing Bee Gees records

0:36:550:36:59

because of the two previous, sort of, flop albums.

0:36:590:37:02

And within hours of the record landing at all the radio stations,

0:37:020:37:05

they were calling saying "Who is this? This is amazing!"

0:37:050:37:08

# Ba-be-ba-be-ba-be-da Ba-be-ba-be-ba-be-da. #

0:37:080:37:10

The Bee Gees were back!

0:37:140:37:16

They united in image and song

0:37:160:37:18

and self-produced their next album Children Of The World.

0:37:180:37:22

Meanwhile, in New York, the underground sound of the dance floor

0:37:260:37:29

that was to become key to the Bee Gees' rebirth

0:37:290:37:32

was seeping into the mainstream.

0:37:320:37:34

Hello?

0:37:340:37:35

Disco used to be the black, Hispanic and gay subculture -

0:37:400:37:46

dancing at night, to cope with the daytime

0:37:460:37:50

in a bankrupt and decaying New York.

0:37:500:37:52

One of the things that makes disco music, a lot of disco, incredible,

0:37:520:37:56

is that there's an ineffable melancholy of the centre of it.

0:37:560:38:01

Obviously, the Bee Gees were perfect at that.

0:38:010:38:05

They were big on melancholy ballads.

0:38:050:38:07

There's something...

0:38:080:38:11

Just that, sort of, ineffable sense of melancholy.

0:38:110:38:13

They get it perfectly.

0:38:130:38:14

You Should Be Dancing is the first point at which they start to discover the full-on disco sound.

0:38:160:38:22

They started to do a song-writing session,

0:38:220:38:24

of which that would form

0:38:240:38:26

the basis of what became the Saturday Night Fever project.

0:38:260:38:31

Mine was the little repeat echo.

0:38:310:38:32

# What you doing on your back? #

0:38:320:38:34

# What you doing on your back? Ah...

0:38:340:38:38

# You should be dancing, yeah... #

0:38:380:38:41

One of my best friends, Nik Cohn, wrote this article for New York

0:38:410:38:44

magazine about what he called the return of Saturday night,

0:38:440:38:48

which was back to the '50s sort of thing.

0:38:480:38:49

Doing your hair and getting all dressed up and going one night

0:38:490:38:52

and blowing it all on the dance floor.

0:38:520:38:54

Stigwood saw the article - he promptly optioned it for a movie.

0:38:540:38:58

So then the whole idea was that we need a soundtrack,

0:38:580:39:01

and of course, the Bee Gees, since they were cresting a wave...

0:39:010:39:04

They weren't known as disco,

0:39:040:39:05

they were just really having a lot of hits.

0:39:050:39:07

Three titles came into my head at that period,

0:39:070:39:10

and one was Staying Alive.

0:39:100:39:12

The other was More Than A Woman.

0:39:120:39:14

And Night Fever.

0:39:140:39:16

And Robert Stigwood called up and said,

0:39:160:39:18

"Have you got any ideas for the title of the film?"

0:39:180:39:20

So I said, "Strangely enough, I've got a title called Night Fever."

0:39:200:39:23

And Robert Stigwood said,

0:39:230:39:25

"Well, yeah, that's OK, but it sounds a bit pornographic." So...

0:39:250:39:29

While Stigwood pondered over the pornographic connotations,

0:39:290:39:32

the Bee Gees took inspiration from an easy listening classic -

0:39:320:39:35

Theme From A Summer Place.

0:39:350:39:37

Every time you hear that,

0:39:430:39:45

instantly, you're in a warm place, you're by the sea,

0:39:450:39:49

you're having a cool drink. And I always thought

0:39:490:39:52

that was a great song to make into a disco track.

0:39:520:39:54

When Barry heard me doing that,

0:39:540:39:56

he said, "Oh, let's turn it round a little bit."

0:39:560:39:59

He got me to change it.

0:39:590:40:00

We inverted the chords, we put it around and we came up with this...

0:40:000:40:04

We recorded the song and it was Night Fever.

0:40:090:40:12

# Listen to the ground

0:40:120:40:13

# There is movement all around

0:40:130:40:15

# There is something goin' down

0:40:150:40:17

# And I can feel it.

0:40:170:40:18

# On the waves of the air

0:40:200:40:22

# There is dancin' out there

0:40:220:40:24

# If it's somethin' we can share

0:40:240:40:26

# We can steal it. #

0:40:260:40:27

Reimaged, the brothers united as a trio with hair primped

0:40:270:40:31

and shirts undone, while Barry stepped forward as the front man.

0:40:310:40:34

The sound was quite black, the clothes were often white.

0:40:340:40:38

When we look at how the Bee Gees were re-presented, this was

0:40:380:40:43

a new unit and suddenly we have a band where they all look the same,

0:40:430:40:49

we have a band that look like something

0:40:490:40:52

that comes out of the Bronx,

0:40:520:40:54

something that is a combination of influences that might hark

0:40:540:40:58

back to the film Superfly.

0:40:580:41:00

And, in Superfly, there's a key character, Ron O'Neal.

0:41:000:41:05

This is someone from the hood.

0:41:050:41:07

This is a criminal and there's a certain amount of street cred

0:41:070:41:10

that goes with this image, which is black America in the '70s.

0:41:100:41:15

# Here I am

0:41:150:41:17

# Prayin' for this moment to last

0:41:170:41:21

# Livin' on the music so fine

0:41:210:41:24

# Borne on the wind

0:41:240:41:27

# Makin' it mine

0:41:270:41:32

# Night fever, night fever

0:41:320:41:35

# We know how to do it. #

0:41:350:41:37

If you put it in context of the time, in the '70s we'd got

0:41:370:41:41

The Professionals and The Sweeney rushing around, bashing people up.

0:41:410:41:46

You pillock!

0:41:460:41:48

One more word from you and I'll nick you.

0:41:500:41:52

And then you go to these beautiful men in gold satin, singing about

0:41:520:41:57

impossible love and broken hearts and...

0:41:570:42:02

and looking wistful.

0:42:020:42:04

# How deep is your love?

0:42:040:42:06

# How deep is your love? How deep is your love?

0:42:060:42:10

# I really need to learn. #

0:42:100:42:13

When John Travolta strutted through the Bronx in Saturday Night Fever

0:42:130:42:17

and the Bee Gees music was married with celluloid,

0:42:170:42:20

the woman's man was born.

0:42:200:42:22

# You can tell by the way I use my walk

0:42:220:42:24

# I'm a woman's man, no time to talk

0:42:240:42:27

# Music loud and women warm

0:42:270:42:28

# I've been kicked around since I was born... #

0:42:280:42:31

The bit at the beginning where John Travolta is

0:42:310:42:34

walking down the street with his tight trousers

0:42:340:42:36

and his shirt unbuttoned with a sort of macho swagger,

0:42:360:42:39

it just caught...

0:42:390:42:41

that moment and crystallised it.

0:42:410:42:45

# Whether you're a brother or whether you're a mother

0:42:450:42:47

# You're stayin' alive Stayin' alive

0:42:470:42:49

# Feel the city breakin' and everybody shakin'

0:42:490:42:51

# And we're stayin' alive Stayin' alive

0:42:510:42:54

# Whether you're a brother or whether you're a mother... #

0:42:540:42:56

Their images merged and the Bee Gees and Travolta went global.

0:42:560:43:00

It gave them an element of credibility

0:43:020:43:04

because they were now part of the movie.

0:43:040:43:06

This is an immaculately clean-cut set of individuals.

0:43:060:43:11

So this is mass appeal now.

0:43:110:43:13

To be a young woman in Leicester and see that on a cinema screen

0:43:130:43:19

was to be, in a way, exposed to Studio 54

0:43:190:43:24

and all that glorious decadence.

0:43:240:43:26

We were looking for hedonism and some glamour and some excitement

0:43:260:43:31

that wasn't making us think too hard.

0:43:310:43:34

# Stayin' ali-i-i-ive. #

0:43:340:43:41

The Bee Gees had been big in the '60s

0:43:410:43:44

but, on the back of Saturday Night Fever,

0:43:440:43:46

they went massive, defining pop culture in 1978.

0:43:460:43:49

How Deep Is Your Love was number one before the film came out

0:43:510:43:54

but to go from that to a million records a week was just unreal.

0:43:540:43:58

We lost all sense of reality.

0:43:580:43:59

People climbing over our walls, people driving past

0:43:590:44:03

and pumping the Fever music outside the gates

0:44:030:44:07

and, you know, that kind of craziness.

0:44:070:44:10

Saturday Night Fever, the album, is, I think, the defining

0:44:100:44:14

album of the '70s, like Sgt Pepper was with the '60s.

0:44:140:44:17

They got two generations at that point.

0:44:170:44:19

They got the housewives that were probably with them

0:44:190:44:23

since the '60s, who now had kids,

0:44:230:44:26

that thought, "That's my band."

0:44:260:44:28

Shut that door...

0:44:300:44:32

The whole world had Saturday Night Fever

0:44:320:44:34

but soon this went Saturday night light entertainment.

0:44:340:44:37

Grayson's groovers.

0:44:370:44:40

SONG: Night Fever

0:44:400:44:42

Five, six, seven, and...

0:44:440:44:46

It seems that everybody wants to be a John Travolta.

0:44:460:44:50

The problem is that film moves just too fast

0:44:500:44:52

for the devotees to memorise all the steps

0:44:520:44:55

so back-to-school they've come, for dancing lessons.

0:44:550:44:58

-Get your John Travolta finger.

-John Travolta finger.

0:44:580:45:01

Touch your left elbow with it. Here we go.

0:45:010:45:03

It's point and touch and point and touch.

0:45:030:45:05

And that, I am told, is what they mean by a beautiful mover.

0:45:050:45:09

In early 1978, the Bee Gees owned the charts and there was

0:45:090:45:13

no space for anyone else, unless you worked with or were related to them.

0:45:130:45:17

# Do it light

0:45:170:45:19

# Taking me through the night

0:45:190:45:21

# Shadow dancing. #

0:45:210:45:23

Their number ones were gazumped by number ones of other songs

0:45:230:45:27

that they'd written or produced.

0:45:270:45:28

# If I can't have you

0:45:280:45:31

# I don't want nobody, baby. #

0:45:310:45:33

What's amazing with the Bee Gees, they'd write songs,

0:45:330:45:36

we'd record it and they'd be great and then suddenly

0:45:360:45:38

they'd say, "Oh, no, it's not good enough," and push it aside.

0:45:380:45:42

And Andy would take it and get a hit with it.

0:45:420:45:45

The Bee Gees continued riding the crest of the disco wave

0:45:450:45:49

and hit number one again in 1979.

0:45:490:45:51

# Loving you

0:45:510:45:56

# Tragedy

0:45:560:45:58

# When the feeling's gone and you can't go on

0:45:580:46:00

# It's tragedy

0:46:000:46:02

# When the morning cries and you don't know why

0:46:020:46:04

# It's hard to bear

0:46:040:46:06

# With no-one to love you you're goin' nowhere. #

0:46:060:46:10

I remember seeing Telly Savalas on television,

0:46:120:46:15

because Kojak was huge, and his comment was,

0:46:150:46:18

"You know, like everything else, this bubble will burst."

0:46:180:46:20

And I always kept that in my head.

0:46:200:46:22

You can't have that kind of success without criticism

0:46:220:46:25

and it's something we had to learn, and we did.

0:46:250:46:27

The backlash against disco was already beginning because it got

0:46:270:46:31

really bloated and really big really fast

0:46:310:46:34

and I think the Bee Gees

0:46:340:46:36

were kind of seen as the apex of that bloat.

0:46:360:46:38

# Tragedy

0:46:380:46:40

# When the feeling's gone and you can't go on

0:46:400:46:43

# It's tragedy. #

0:46:430:46:44

The success of Saturday Night Fever

0:46:440:46:47

was the final nail in the coffin for disco.

0:46:470:46:51

Suddenly, disco became the sound of white, straight people.

0:46:510:46:55

# Tragedy! #

0:46:550:46:56

But tragedy was nothing if not prophetic.

0:46:560:46:59

The Bee Gees were so big it was painful.

0:46:590:47:02

# Meaningless songs

0:47:020:47:05

# In very high voices

0:47:050:47:10

# With 1,000 violins. #

0:47:100:47:14

Richard Curtis and I wrote this song,

0:47:150:47:17

which was sort of a Mickey take of the Bee Gees.

0:47:170:47:21

I don't think they liked it. I can't think why.

0:47:210:47:24

# In a pair of tight, gold jeans. #

0:47:240:47:29

What encapsulates medallion man was the cover

0:47:290:47:32

of The Children Of The World album.

0:47:320:47:35

You can almost smell the Aramis coming off the album cover.

0:47:350:47:39

They were sort of looking in the middle distance.

0:47:390:47:42

It looked like they were caught in a wind tunnel.

0:47:420:47:44

It was quite a sort of macho image,

0:47:440:47:47

but it was also quite sort of otherworldly.

0:47:470:47:50

The teeth and hair and the medallion and the...

0:47:500:47:54

You know, that was... That became uncool really quickly.

0:47:540:47:58

Some people have implied that your high voices,

0:47:580:48:00

coupled with the long hair,

0:48:000:48:02

shirt open to the naval, revealing hairy chest and medallion look

0:48:020:48:05

suggests that you are somewhat less than masculine and that you...

0:48:050:48:09

# Look the other way. #

0:48:090:48:11

LAUGHTER

0:48:110:48:13

Exactly. What do you say to that?

0:48:130:48:14

# Ha, ha, ha, ha. #

0:48:140:48:17

When these comedians try to mock you,

0:48:170:48:21

it's a compliment in disguise.

0:48:210:48:24

Very much so. It means that you are a part of the public psyche.

0:48:250:48:30

You have a valued and important place in it.

0:48:300:48:33

At this point, where the Bee Gees are seen as possibly naff,

0:48:330:48:36

they moved behind the scenes.

0:48:360:48:37

You know, they realised that the brand, for the time being,

0:48:370:48:41

seems to be so irreparably damaged.

0:48:410:48:43

In 1980, the Bee Gees parted company with Stigwood.

0:48:430:48:47

After filing a lawsuit to be released from RSO Records,

0:48:470:48:50

they retreated to the studio and set a different course.

0:48:500:48:53

They then embarked on what became the next phase of their career -

0:48:530:48:57

as songwriters, guns for hire.

0:48:570:48:59

We needed to show that we were actually songwriters and that

0:48:590:49:02

Fever was a project, and we were finding all kinds of reasons

0:49:020:49:05

to make ourselves feel better. And...

0:49:050:49:09

in that way, we wrote songs for other people

0:49:090:49:11

that we probably would never have written.

0:49:110:49:13

# With the love you're livin' on

0:49:130:49:16

# You gotta be mine

0:49:160:49:19

# We take it away... #

0:49:190:49:22

I was so nervous about working with her, I called Neil Diamond

0:49:220:49:25

and so, "What's she like to work with?" You know?

0:49:250:49:28

And he said, "Oh, relax, she's great. Just go for it.

0:49:280:49:32

"Don't worry about it. She's very professional

0:49:320:49:35

"and a very sweet person," so, you know, OK.

0:49:350:49:38

# And we got nothing to be sorry for

0:49:380:49:42

# Our love is one in a million

0:49:420:49:45

# Eyes can see... #

0:49:450:49:47

They were now at the upper echelons of the best artists.

0:49:470:49:52

They could access anyone, in fact.

0:49:520:49:54

# Islands in the stream

0:49:540:49:56

# That is what we are

0:49:560:49:58

# No-one in between

0:49:580:50:01

# How can we be wrong?

0:50:010:50:03

# Sail away with me

0:50:030:50:05

# To another world. #

0:50:050:50:07

These were hit-makers and this gave them a new life, a new tension.

0:50:070:50:14

But the songs are written in the same brotherly way, but they target

0:50:140:50:19

it for a specific individual and, again, this is a unique quality,

0:50:190:50:23

one that had been honed over decades.

0:50:230:50:26

# I'm in the middle of a chain reaction

0:50:260:50:30

# A chain reaction! #

0:50:300:50:32

It just goes to show you that the public image of what the Bee Gees

0:50:320:50:35

were has no relation to the kind of quality of their music

0:50:350:50:38

and, if you divorce the music from that, people will still buy it.

0:50:380:50:42

After spending six years catapulting music's biggest stars

0:50:420:50:46

back to the top, by 1987, the Bee Gees were ready to relaunch.

0:50:460:50:51

The Bee Gees are still going strong and, yes, I do remember them, just.

0:50:510:50:54

Their new album ESP is their 25th LP in a recording career that

0:50:540:50:58

has spanned nearly as many years.

0:50:580:51:01

You Win Again is the 50th single from the song-writing trio

0:51:010:51:04

whose material has been covered by over 100 different artists.

0:51:040:51:07

# I couldn't figure why

0:51:100:51:11

# You couldn't give me what everybody needs

0:51:110:51:14

# I shouldn't let you kick me when I'm down

0:51:140:51:19

# My baby... #

0:51:190:51:21

We'd really been doing this since we were tiny kids

0:51:210:51:24

and we were good at it. We always had blinkers on.

0:51:240:51:27

We never could see what else we would do.

0:51:270:51:29

And this is all we wanted to do so I think grim determination

0:51:290:51:34

and persistence and taking all the blows and all the kicks

0:51:340:51:39

and not worrying about it and just getting on with it.

0:51:390:51:43

"Well, it wasn't this time but next time." You know?

0:51:430:51:45

It's always perceiving that

0:51:450:51:47

something great was going to happen, no matter what.

0:51:470:51:49

# There's no fight you can't fight

0:51:490:51:52

# This battle of love with me

0:51:520:51:54

# You win again

0:51:540:51:56

# So little time

0:51:560:51:58

# We do nothing but compete. #

0:51:580:52:00

By the time we get to the '80s,

0:52:000:52:03

it is a much more mature Bee Gees that we see on stage.

0:52:030:52:07

They've done it all.

0:52:070:52:09

There is an audience that has grown up with them

0:52:090:52:11

now as well that has stayed with them. It is an older audience.

0:52:110:52:16

They are not, at that point,

0:52:160:52:18

attempting to appeal to a younger audience.

0:52:180:52:21

They just have a fantastic back catalogue.

0:52:210:52:23

# Still waters run deep

0:52:230:52:26

# Just remember when we lie to each other

0:52:260:52:29

# No-one wins and losers weep. #

0:52:290:52:33

We were no longer kids,

0:52:330:52:34

we were no longer something that could really appeal to kids.

0:52:340:52:36

Money never really was an issue for us, it was really about being famous.

0:52:360:52:40

The feeling of fame was our big money.

0:52:400:52:43

But their main line back to the kids was their songs

0:52:430:52:46

and the '90s boy bands.

0:52:460:52:48

# And when you rise in the morning sun

0:52:480:52:52

# I feel you touch my hand in the pouring rain... #

0:52:520:52:57

The Bee Gees songs had the perfect ingredients for the boy band.

0:52:570:53:00

The harmonies and the melancholy,

0:53:000:53:03

their longing ballads were perfect for a bit of hormonal adulation.

0:53:030:53:06

It's now about the business. We want the song that will launch you.

0:53:060:53:11

We want the song that people will buy into, within 30 seconds.

0:53:110:53:16

We want to cross generations. We want mass appeal.

0:53:160:53:19

Bee Gees has to be in the mix.

0:53:190:53:21

# How deep is your love?

0:53:210:53:23

# How deep is your love? How deep is your love? #

0:53:230:53:27

You pick the right Bee Gees song, you're going to have a hit.

0:53:270:53:31

# It's only words

0:53:310:53:34

# And words are all I have

0:53:340:53:37

# To take your heart away. #

0:53:370:53:39

And it wasn't just the ballads that put the Bee Gees

0:53:390:53:41

back on Top Of The Pops.

0:53:410:53:42

# Tragedy!

0:53:420:53:44

# When the feeling's gone and you can't go on

0:53:440:53:46

# It's tragedy. #

0:53:460:53:47

For Pete Waterman to get Steps to record Tragedy,

0:53:470:53:50

a whole new generation love that song.

0:53:500:53:54

It was a big hit first time for the Bee Gees,

0:53:540:53:56

but it became an even bigger hit second time

0:53:560:53:58

and there's few examples where the cover version is a bigger hit

0:53:580:54:02

than the original version.

0:54:020:54:04

It did nothing for their credibility cos,

0:54:040:54:06

to be honest, I mean, that, you know, forgive me, Steps,

0:54:060:54:09

but it's a karaoke, wedding, sing-along version.

0:54:090:54:13

The Britpop era is the sort of era where people should have gone,

0:54:130:54:17

"Bloody hell, have you heard these early Bee Gees?"

0:54:170:54:20

They should have been sort of hoisted up as an example

0:54:200:54:22

of kind of classic '60s pop music

0:54:220:54:24

in a way that all sorts of other things weren't during...

0:54:240:54:26

Small Faces or whatever. And they just weren't.

0:54:260:54:29

They absolutely weren't and it's because Steps have covered Tragedy

0:54:290:54:32

and, you know, it's seen as to do with the naffest of naff pop music.

0:54:320:54:37

How much it's just desperately unfair, really.

0:54:370:54:40

After the years of ridicule, the Bee Gees were still going strong

0:54:420:54:45

and they charted yet again in 2001, but it was to be their last hit.

0:54:450:54:50

# I've seen the story

0:54:510:54:54

# I've read it over once or twice

0:54:540:54:56

# I said that you say

0:54:560:54:59

# A little bit of bad advice

0:54:590:55:01

# I've been in trouble

0:55:010:55:04

# Happened to me all my life. #

0:55:040:55:07

In 2003, Maurice died and the brotherhood was torn asunder.

0:55:070:55:11

# There's a light

0:55:110:55:13

# A certain kind of light

0:55:150:55:17

# That never shone on me... #

0:55:180:55:20

Maurice dying, that was a real shock to the whole family.

0:55:220:55:25

And it took a long time for us to get past that.

0:55:250:55:29

After Maurice's death, Barry and Robin really performed together.

0:55:320:55:36

And, with Robin's untimely death in 2012, Barry remained alone,

0:55:360:55:41

the last brother standing.

0:55:410:55:43

I have very vivid dreams of my brothers, you know.

0:55:440:55:48

It's like you actually see your brother

0:55:480:55:50

and he's talking to you the way he always did.

0:55:500:55:53

# You don't know what it's like... #

0:55:530:55:56

And you wake up and you think, "God, that was so real."

0:55:560:55:58

He wanted to go on stage and I was up for it and that was the dream.

0:55:580:56:03

# To love somebody

0:56:030:56:05

# To love somebody

0:56:050:56:07

# The way I love you. #

0:56:080:56:14

# And it's me you need to show

0:56:160:56:19

# How deep is your love?

0:56:190:56:21

# How deep is your love? How deep is your love? #

0:56:210:56:23

The Bee Gees gave us four decades of hits.

0:56:230:56:26

They were so much more than cool.

0:56:260:56:29

# Cos we're living in a world of fools. #

0:56:290:56:32

Songs and melodies that last,

0:56:320:56:34

that outlast the genres they were written in,

0:56:340:56:37

like disco or R&B or anything, I mean, they are timeless.

0:56:370:56:41

They were masters of melancholy

0:56:410:56:43

and gave us some of pop's most moving moments.

0:56:430:56:46

# I just gotta get a message to you

0:56:460:56:50

# Hold on

0:56:510:56:54

# Hold on... #

0:56:540:56:56

The delivery is so honest and heartbreaking,

0:56:560:56:59

you have to be a brick wall not to let that affect you.

0:56:590:57:04

# Hold on. #

0:57:040:57:07

They were able to connect and speak to you directly in their lyrics

0:57:070:57:10

on an emotional level

0:57:100:57:11

and that is how I began a relationship with the Bee Gees.

0:57:110:57:16

But, at the time, I would never say I was into the Bee Gees

0:57:160:57:20

because they were not cool.

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# Night fever, night fever

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# We know how to do it

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# Feel like forever, baby. #

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We would put on tracks by the Bee Gees

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from Saturday Night Fever

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just to see what all the cool people would do.

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Would they be horrified or would they dance?

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And when I put it on, everyone was horrified

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then they all went crazy because they loved it.

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It was a guilty pleasure.

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# Jive talkin'

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# You're tellin' me lies, yeah. #

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I think the Bee Gees have always had secret cred.

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They've always been one of those bands it's not, like, cool

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to be like, "Yeah, Bee Gees, man, that's my jam!"

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But they have a massive respect.

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# Just isn't a crime

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# And if there's somebody

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# You'll love till you die. #

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It's genius. It's proper genius.

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It's being one of the greatest song-writing teams ever.

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SONG: Stayin' Alive

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And their legacy lives on.

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I really can't imagine doing anything else with my life, you know.

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Some of the greatest moments for me are on a stage

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and I still have that hunger so... But I'll always see my brothers.

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They'll always be with me. But I've still got to do it.

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I've still got to do it.

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# Not goin' nowhere

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# Somebody help me

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# Somebody help me, yeah

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# Not goin' nowhere

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# Stayin' ali-ive. #

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