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-Ah, the reasons for our popularity? -Er... | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
Ooh. HE LAUGHS | 0:00:04 | 0:00:06 | |
I think that's impossible to answer. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:10 | |
Really impossible. Nobody really knows what the reasons are. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:12 | |
# Feel the city breakin' and everybody shakin' | 0:00:12 | 0:00:15 | |
# I'm a-stayin' alive, stayin' alive | 0:00:15 | 0:00:17 | |
# Ah, ah, ah, ah, stayin' alive... # | 0:00:17 | 0:00:20 | |
The Bee Gees. They're more than a flourish of falsettos. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:23 | |
# Stayin' ali-i-i... | 0:00:23 | 0:00:26 | |
# ..i-i-i... | 0:00:26 | 0:00:28 | |
# ..i-i-i-ive... # | 0:00:28 | 0:00:32 | |
They're not just teeth, tans and tight trousers. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:35 | |
Why is it, do you think, that millions of people love your music? | 0:00:35 | 0:00:39 | |
# Cos we're living in a world of fools... # | 0:00:39 | 0:00:43 | |
There's so much more to the Bee Gees | 0:00:43 | 0:00:45 | |
than Saturday Night Fever and office parties. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:48 | |
That looks gay. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:49 | |
You put them on at a party and everybody's dancing. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:52 | |
It doesn't matter how old they are. | 0:00:52 | 0:00:53 | |
# And it's me you need to show | 0:00:53 | 0:00:56 | |
-# How deep is your love? -How deep is your love... # | 0:00:56 | 0:00:59 | |
Look beyond the white suits and satin. The Bee Gees are pop royalty. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:03 | |
I think the Bee Gees should be revered | 0:01:03 | 0:01:05 | |
in the way the Beatles are revered. And they're not. | 0:01:05 | 0:01:07 | |
Back in the '60s, they were pop balladeers. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:10 | |
The Bee Gees were heartbreakers. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:12 | |
# You don't know what it's like | 0:01:12 | 0:01:16 | |
# Baby, you don't know what it's like | 0:01:17 | 0:01:22 | |
# To love somebody... # | 0:01:22 | 0:01:24 | |
These are some of the most moving, | 0:01:24 | 0:01:26 | |
touching lyrics, I think, ever put to paper. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:29 | |
These were geniuses at communicating emotion, in different ways, | 0:01:29 | 0:01:34 | |
across different decades, to different generations. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:37 | |
The brothers Gibb. They were all graft and craft, | 0:01:38 | 0:01:40 | |
but when they united in song and harmony, | 0:01:40 | 0:01:42 | |
the Bee Gees were pure class. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:44 | |
# Nobody gets too much heaven no more... # | 0:01:44 | 0:01:50 | |
Creating these melodies like spun gold out of the thin air. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:55 | |
How did they do it? It is extraordinary. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:57 | |
From pop to soul to disco, we walk the line between the naffness, | 0:01:57 | 0:02:01 | |
the genius, and, yes, the joy of the Bee Gees. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:05 | |
# I just got to get a message to you... # | 0:02:05 | 0:02:08 | |
Some of our songs, I never really want to listen to. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:11 | |
And some songs, I think, "Oh, boy, that was a good record. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:14 | |
You know? "How did that happen?" HE LAUGHS | 0:02:14 | 0:02:16 | |
# Ah-ah-ah | 0:02:16 | 0:02:18 | |
# Ah-ah ah ah ah | 0:02:18 | 0:02:21 | |
# Ah-ah ah ah ah ah-ah ahhh... | 0:02:21 | 0:02:24 | |
# One hour | 0:02:24 | 0:02:26 | |
# One more hour and my life will be through... # | 0:02:26 | 0:02:31 | |
STACCATO PIANO MUSIC | 0:02:33 | 0:02:36 | |
In the '50s, variety was king, with shows for all the family, | 0:02:39 | 0:02:43 | |
complete with impersonators, dancing girls, and ventriloquists. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:48 | |
Just look at this face, eh? | 0:02:48 | 0:02:50 | |
A mean, melancholic misfit. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:53 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:02:53 | 0:02:55 | |
And this hotbed of talent | 0:02:55 | 0:02:56 | |
is where the brothers Gibb cut their milk teeth. | 0:02:56 | 0:03:00 | |
There is a side of the Bee Gees' music that, you know, | 0:03:00 | 0:03:03 | |
you could say was destined for cabaret from the start. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:06 | |
You can laugh at the fact they were performing in little suits | 0:03:06 | 0:03:08 | |
when they were young kids, but they were in showbusiness | 0:03:08 | 0:03:11 | |
right from the beginning, | 0:03:11 | 0:03:12 | |
and showbusiness meant the whole business of show. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:14 | |
From an early age, music was in their blood, and their dad Hugh, | 0:03:14 | 0:03:19 | |
a band leader on the Mecca club circuit, was their mentor. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:23 | |
Dad used to play the Russell Street club in Manchester, | 0:03:23 | 0:03:27 | |
and he told everybody at this club that his three kids were singing | 0:03:27 | 0:03:30 | |
and harmonising, and they said, "Well, bring them along to the club. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:33 | |
"As long as you're with them, they'll be OK. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:35 | |
"They're underage, but bring them anyway." | 0:03:35 | 0:03:38 | |
And we were three kids, you know? Never work with kids and dogs. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:41 | |
They'll steal everything. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:43 | |
'Come over to the sunny side now. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:46 | |
'Australia, a great place for families. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:49 | |
'Opportunity for you. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:51 | |
'Fine for your wife. Great for your children.' | 0:03:51 | 0:03:54 | |
# Here comes summer | 0:03:54 | 0:03:57 | |
# School is out... # | 0:03:57 | 0:03:59 | |
The Gibb family took up the offer to become "Ten Pound Poms", | 0:03:59 | 0:04:01 | |
and their trip to Oz would inform their songwriting for years to come. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:05 | |
We went on this beautiful white ship called the Fairsea. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:08 | |
We saw things like Egypt and India and the Suez Canal, and Sri Lanka. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:13 | |
That's incredible for kids to experience that, | 0:04:13 | 0:04:15 | |
and I've always felt that was really what kick-started the creativity, | 0:04:15 | 0:04:19 | |
you know, seeing these different cultures at such a young age. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:23 | |
The adventure had begun. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:24 | |
# Let the sun shine bright on my happy summer home... # | 0:04:24 | 0:04:29 | |
Encouraged by their dad, the brothers formed a band, | 0:04:29 | 0:04:32 | |
and toured Queensland's holiday resorts and dives... | 0:04:32 | 0:04:36 | |
# Come on and hear, come on and hear | 0:04:36 | 0:04:38 | |
# It's the best band in the land... # | 0:04:38 | 0:04:40 | |
We did the Sandgate Hotel, and it was a galvanised roof, | 0:04:40 | 0:04:44 | |
and the water was pouring in onto the stage. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:47 | |
Like, not just raining, pouring in. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:49 | |
And we had to stand there, with water pouring, | 0:04:49 | 0:04:52 | |
soaking and singing, and people sitting in front of us fighting. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:55 | |
Not standing, but punching each other sitting down. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:59 | |
..until the young brothers caught the eye of TV producers. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:06 | |
Here are some of the boys I'm looking for. The Bee Gees. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:10 | |
Barry here, the leader of the group. Come here. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:13 | |
Barry Gibb, and your young brothers. Now, come on, who are you? | 0:05:13 | 0:05:16 | |
Which is which? You're twins, eh? | 0:05:16 | 0:05:18 | |
-I'm Robin. -Robin. -And Maurice. -And Maurice. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:21 | |
Barry was tall, good-looking lad, you know. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:23 | |
And then there was Robin and Maurice, | 0:05:23 | 0:05:25 | |
who were these short little dudes, you know? | 0:05:25 | 0:05:27 | |
And they played a guitar, and they had all little high voices. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:30 | |
# Ah-ah-ah... | 0:05:30 | 0:05:31 | |
# I'll speak long and sing long | 0:05:31 | 0:05:34 | |
# Cos time is passing by | 0:05:34 | 0:05:37 | |
# I'll drift along and breeze along just like a butterfly... # | 0:05:37 | 0:05:41 | |
They were looked upon as more of a novelty act, you know, then? | 0:05:41 | 0:05:45 | |
And people could... People realised their talent, | 0:05:45 | 0:05:48 | |
but it just wasn't taken all that seriously. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:52 | |
Growing up down under, | 0:05:52 | 0:05:53 | |
their songs took inspiration from old school America. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:56 | |
# Bye-bye, love | 0:05:58 | 0:05:59 | |
# Bye-bye, happiness... # | 0:06:00 | 0:06:03 | |
With their clean-cut looks and harmonies, | 0:06:03 | 0:06:05 | |
they harked back to the '50s... | 0:06:05 | 0:06:07 | |
# Wine and women and song will only make me sad | 0:06:07 | 0:06:12 | |
# Love and kisses and hugs, the thing I never had... # | 0:06:15 | 0:06:20 | |
..until they were inspired by only the biggest band in the world. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:24 | |
What a day it was at Adelaide airport. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:26 | |
Arriving to meet the citizens were John Lennon, | 0:06:26 | 0:06:29 | |
two other Beatle regulars, and Jimmie Nicol. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:32 | |
You've missed the ashtray! | 0:06:32 | 0:06:33 | |
Paul, what do you expect to find here in Australia? | 0:06:33 | 0:06:36 | |
Australians. THEY ALL LAUGH | 0:06:36 | 0:06:39 | |
The feeling, the actual vibration that was going on in the culture, | 0:06:41 | 0:06:45 | |
it changed everybody. You know, it changed hair, it changed clothes. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:50 | |
Everything changed, and no-one knew why, | 0:06:50 | 0:06:52 | |
but they all had to follow this thing. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:54 | |
# Where is the sun | 0:06:54 | 0:06:57 | |
# That shone on my head... # | 0:06:57 | 0:07:00 | |
Spicks And Specks was the first record | 0:07:00 | 0:07:02 | |
that went to number one in Perth. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:04 | |
We thought, "Something's happening. Something's happening." | 0:07:04 | 0:07:08 | |
# All of my life | 0:07:08 | 0:07:10 | |
# I call yesterday | 0:07:10 | 0:07:14 | |
# The spicks and the specks of my life gone away... # | 0:07:16 | 0:07:22 | |
By 1967, they had released 11 singles in Australia, | 0:07:22 | 0:07:25 | |
but for the Bee Gees, London was calling. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:28 | |
We had to get to England. We had to be a part of it, | 0:07:28 | 0:07:31 | |
and I remember my father and us having a really big argument | 0:07:31 | 0:07:34 | |
with the executives at Festival Records, | 0:07:34 | 0:07:36 | |
because we didn't want to stay. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:38 | |
We had to make it internationally one way or another. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:40 | |
We knew that in some way, that was our destiny. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:42 | |
# Let me take you down | 0:07:42 | 0:07:44 | |
# Cos I'm going to | 0:07:44 | 0:07:47 | |
# Strawberry fields... # | 0:07:47 | 0:07:51 | |
When we arrived in England was the week of release of Strawberry Fields, | 0:07:51 | 0:07:55 | |
and that was a shock to the system, everybody's system, you know? | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
And Penny Lane, and... | 0:07:58 | 0:08:00 | |
That was the drive. "Oh, God," you know, | 0:08:01 | 0:08:03 | |
"they've raised the bar again." | 0:08:03 | 0:08:05 | |
You know? How do these boys, how do these guys do this, you know? | 0:08:05 | 0:08:07 | |
And everybody's got to aspire to that now. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:09 | |
# Penny Lane, there is a barber showing photographs... # | 0:08:09 | 0:08:14 | |
Ever ambitious, the Bee Gees went straight to the top. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:17 | |
Epstein, of course, at the time, was ruling the roost, you know, | 0:08:17 | 0:08:21 | |
as far as all the bands were, the pop bands were concerned. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:25 | |
And the Bee Gees were trying to make their way, and so was Robert. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:29 | |
Epstein passed them on to his Aussie business partner, | 0:08:34 | 0:08:37 | |
impresario Robert Stigwood. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:39 | |
He heard them singing on the steps outside his office, | 0:08:39 | 0:08:42 | |
and thought he'd found the new Beatles, | 0:08:42 | 0:08:44 | |
and of course, people probably laughed, as they do. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:47 | |
There we were. Going to names, being signed to names. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:51 | |
Being signed to the Beatles' organisation. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:53 | |
And being in those offices while the Beatles, one or the other, | 0:08:53 | 0:08:57 | |
would walk through. It was just incredible. | 0:08:57 | 0:08:59 | |
The Bee Gees are one of those bands that could, | 0:08:59 | 0:09:02 | |
without Robert Stigwood, could have easily never been anything. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:07 | |
In anybody else's hands, you may never have heard of them again. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:12 | |
In 1967, the Beatles were it, | 0:09:14 | 0:09:16 | |
and the charts were full of male beat groups. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:19 | |
# Ya-ya ya ya ya ya ya-a-ay... # | 0:09:19 | 0:09:23 | |
# No milk today, it wasn't always so | 0:09:23 | 0:09:26 | |
# The company was gay... # | 0:09:26 | 0:09:28 | |
With the Fab Four as his template, Stigwood wanted a four-piece band, | 0:09:28 | 0:09:32 | |
so he roped in another Aussie with boyish good looks, Colin Peterson. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:36 | |
But the brothers Gibb didn't stop at four. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
Maurice owed me 25 bucks, | 0:09:39 | 0:09:41 | |
so he said, "No, we haven't got any money either, mate. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:43 | |
"We just arrived and we're skint as well, | 0:09:43 | 0:09:45 | |
"but we've just been signed up by this guy called Robert Stigwood, | 0:09:45 | 0:09:48 | |
"and so why don't you come and play guitar?" | 0:09:48 | 0:09:51 | |
I was really not wanted. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:54 | |
It was only Barry that said to Robert, | 0:09:54 | 0:09:59 | |
"We want Vince to be," you know, "a full member of the band." | 0:09:59 | 0:10:03 | |
And, um, I became a Bee Gee. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:06 | |
With all five Bee Gees in place, the boys now had to deliver the hits... | 0:10:06 | 0:10:11 | |
That was the highest point of pressure in our lives. | 0:10:11 | 0:10:13 | |
"How do we have a hit in England? How do we do that?" | 0:10:13 | 0:10:16 | |
..and their first single chose an unlikely inspiration. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:19 | |
Just after nine o'clock this morning, | 0:10:19 | 0:10:22 | |
as prayers were ending at Pantglas Junior and Infant School, | 0:10:22 | 0:10:24 | |
this mountain, a coal slag half a mile high, | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
began to slide towards the little town of Aberfan. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:30 | |
We went out and sat on the stairs where the elevator was | 0:10:30 | 0:10:34 | |
and the power went off, and so in the dark, | 0:10:34 | 0:10:37 | |
we sort of proceeded down that path, | 0:10:37 | 0:10:39 | |
the idea that you could be in a mine and you could be isolated | 0:10:39 | 0:10:42 | |
and not know what's going on outside. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:44 | |
# In the event of something happening to me | 0:10:46 | 0:10:50 | |
# There is something I would like you all to see | 0:10:52 | 0:10:56 | |
# It's just a photograph of someone that I knew | 0:10:58 | 0:11:02 | |
# Have you seen my wife, Mr Jones? # | 0:11:04 | 0:11:08 | |
With their eyes on the US, Stigwood and the record company | 0:11:08 | 0:11:12 | |
changed Have You Seen My Wife, Mr Jones? to New York Mining Disaster. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:17 | |
At the time, I think they were, | 0:11:17 | 0:11:19 | |
you know, "What's he's singing about? New York mining disaster?" | 0:11:19 | 0:11:23 | |
"It's a strange subject for a song." | 0:11:23 | 0:11:25 | |
The whole content of those lyrics were quite unusual. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:29 | |
That's one of the main songs that will bring tears to my eyes. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:33 | |
Their songwriting is absolutely from the heart. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:36 | |
It's wide open and exposed | 0:11:36 | 0:11:38 | |
and that's exactly why I love them. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:40 | |
That's brave beyond belief. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:43 | |
# Or have they given up and all gone home to bed | 0:11:43 | 0:11:47 | |
# Thinking those who once existed must be dead? | 0:11:49 | 0:11:53 | |
# Have you seen my wife, Mr Jones? # | 0:11:54 | 0:11:58 | |
They'd proved they were original songwriters, | 0:11:58 | 0:12:00 | |
but it didn't hurt to sound like the Beatles. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:03 | |
When New York Mining Disaster came out in America, | 0:12:03 | 0:12:07 | |
a lot of people thought it was the Beatles. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:09 | |
I think they were always seen as arrivistes as well, the Bee Gees, | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
the kind of people that are doing | 0:12:12 | 0:12:14 | |
something that people view as sort of ersatz. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:17 | |
Barry's a great sort of pasticher of John Lennon's songwriting style. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:23 | |
It makes me think of Oasis | 0:12:23 | 0:12:25 | |
because they're trying to do something similar, | 0:12:25 | 0:12:27 | |
they're sort of copying that kind of way that Lennon wrote songs, | 0:12:27 | 0:12:32 | |
but he does it incredibly well. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:34 | |
# Don't go talking too loud, you'll cause a landslide | 0:12:34 | 0:12:39 | |
# Mr Jones. # | 0:12:39 | 0:12:43 | |
New York Mining Disaster and the Bee Gees | 0:12:48 | 0:12:50 | |
didn't quite chime with the Summer of Love... | 0:12:50 | 0:12:53 | |
-# Let's go -Let's go | 0:12:53 | 0:12:55 | |
-# To San Francisco -Let's go to San Francisco... # | 0:12:55 | 0:13:00 | |
..so the brothers sought solace in soul. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:02 | |
Robin's favourite artist and my favourite artist was Otis Redding. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:08 | |
# Got to, got to, got to try a little tenderness... # | 0:13:08 | 0:13:12 | |
It was never outside of our system. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:14 | |
It was always something we loved, anyway. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:16 | |
Sam and Dave, Stax, was very deep inside us. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:19 | |
We weren't getting the opportunity to bring those things out | 0:13:19 | 0:13:22 | |
because of the whole psychedelic syndrome | 0:13:22 | 0:13:26 | |
and the idea that we had to do what everyone else was doing, | 0:13:26 | 0:13:29 | |
which was to be something like the Beatles, you know. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:32 | |
That was the way out for us, to be influenced by American music. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:37 | |
We sort of found something | 0:13:37 | 0:13:39 | |
and that was the idea of the emotional ballad, | 0:13:39 | 0:13:42 | |
the idea of that was really working for us. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:45 | |
# Hey, baby, you don't know what it's like | 0:13:45 | 0:13:49 | |
# Baby, you don't know what it's like | 0:13:50 | 0:13:53 | |
# To love somebody | 0:13:54 | 0:13:57 | |
# To love somebody | 0:13:57 | 0:14:00 | |
# The way I love you. # | 0:14:00 | 0:14:02 | |
This emotional ballad was originally intended for Otis Redding. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:06 | |
They were approaching it thinking of a solo artist, but there's something | 0:14:06 | 0:14:10 | |
about the Bee Gees' delivery which accesses that emotion | 0:14:10 | 0:14:14 | |
but not the way a soul artist would do that. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:18 | |
# I'm a man | 0:14:18 | 0:14:20 | |
# Can't you see what I am? | 0:14:21 | 0:14:23 | |
# I live and I breathe for you... # | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
For example, Otis' approach to soul, it's very much a punch in the face. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:34 | |
"This is soul, feel my experience, feel my emotional angst, | 0:14:34 | 0:14:40 | |
"join me in this journey," | 0:14:40 | 0:14:43 | |
whereas the Bee Gees' is much more... | 0:14:43 | 0:14:46 | |
..much more a tickle. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:49 | |
"I'm in pain. Feel my pain, join me in this suffering." | 0:14:49 | 0:14:55 | |
And it creeps up on you, and then it grabs you. | 0:14:55 | 0:14:59 | |
# No, you don't know what it's like | 0:14:59 | 0:15:02 | |
# Baby, you don't know what it's like | 0:15:04 | 0:15:07 | |
# To love somebody | 0:15:08 | 0:15:11 | |
# To love somebody | 0:15:11 | 0:15:14 | |
# The way I love you. # | 0:15:14 | 0:15:15 | |
Songs of experience, you know, they're kids writing these songs | 0:15:15 | 0:15:19 | |
that sound like they were written | 0:15:19 | 0:15:21 | |
by, you know, sort of middle-aged men. That's quite odd. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:25 | |
So while the hip kids were being far out, the nation was | 0:15:25 | 0:15:29 | |
listening to the Bee Gees, and by September 1967, | 0:15:29 | 0:15:32 | |
they hit the top of the charts. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:34 | |
It was really an anti-flower power song. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:37 | |
You know, it was us sort of playing with that idea. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:40 | |
Tonight, Massachusetts, from the Bee Gees. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:43 | |
CHEERING | 0:15:43 | 0:15:45 | |
Suddenly we're on Top Of The Pops and Massachusetts was number one. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:48 | |
# And the lights all went down in Massachusetts | 0:15:48 | 0:15:55 | |
# The day I left her standing on the road. # | 0:15:57 | 0:16:03 | |
The Bee Gees' dream was to make it internationally | 0:16:03 | 0:16:06 | |
and their American soul influences and gift for balladry | 0:16:06 | 0:16:09 | |
helped propel them stateside. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:11 | |
This is the first time they've appeared on television | 0:16:11 | 0:16:14 | |
in the United States, so ladies and gentlemen, let's give a warm hand, | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
very talented group of men, the Bee Gees. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:19 | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:16:19 | 0:16:20 | |
# Smile an everlasting smile | 0:16:20 | 0:16:25 | |
# A smile can bring you near to me | 0:16:25 | 0:16:29 | |
# Don't ever let me find you gone | 0:16:31 | 0:16:37 | |
# Cos that would bring a tear to me. # | 0:16:37 | 0:16:41 | |
The songs are very comforting. They're very comforting melodies. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:44 | |
HE PLAYS: Words | 0:16:44 | 0:16:46 | |
And then it does the same shape again, | 0:16:52 | 0:16:55 | |
but it finishes differently, sort of... | 0:16:55 | 0:16:57 | |
The harmonies are always moving and the melody is always moving, | 0:16:57 | 0:17:01 | |
even though it's incredibly simple, | 0:17:01 | 0:17:04 | |
but you're not bored by the simplicity | 0:17:04 | 0:17:06 | |
because it's always changing. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:08 | |
# It's only words | 0:17:08 | 0:17:12 | |
# And words are all I have | 0:17:12 | 0:17:15 | |
# To take your heart away. # | 0:17:15 | 0:17:18 | |
It's the difference between that addictive quality within a melody | 0:17:18 | 0:17:23 | |
and monotony, and they cut it just right, | 0:17:23 | 0:17:27 | |
where you're just on the edge of, "Oh, I need a bit more of this." | 0:17:27 | 0:17:31 | |
And before you can consider whether or not you've heard it too often, | 0:17:31 | 0:17:36 | |
you're on the edge of wanting a bit more. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:39 | |
# And words are all I have | 0:17:39 | 0:17:43 | |
# To take your heart away. # | 0:17:43 | 0:17:49 | |
The Bee Gees' ballads were emotional epics | 0:17:51 | 0:17:53 | |
and while Barry made hearts flutter, Robin made the earth tremble. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:58 | |
I really, really love Robin Gibbs' voice. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:01 | |
I think he's sensational, one of the all-time greats. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:05 | |
# I started a joke | 0:18:05 | 0:18:08 | |
# Which started the whole world crying... # | 0:18:09 | 0:18:13 | |
That heart and soul sliced open and rendered to a public, it's... | 0:18:15 | 0:18:22 | |
..quite literally liver in a frying pan, isn't it? Delicious! | 0:18:22 | 0:18:27 | |
# Oh, no | 0:18:27 | 0:18:28 | |
# I started to cry | 0:18:30 | 0:18:32 | |
# Which started the whole world laughing... # | 0:18:34 | 0:18:38 | |
He sounds like he's about to cry. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:40 | |
He sounds like he's about to burst into tears any moment. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:43 | |
His mother said, "Whenever Robin sang, it made me feel cold." | 0:18:43 | 0:18:48 | |
I think that's meant as a compliment. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:50 | |
# I looked at the skies | 0:18:50 | 0:18:55 | |
# Running my hands over my eyes | 0:18:55 | 0:19:03 | |
# And I fell out of bed | 0:19:03 | 0:19:08 | |
# Hurting my head | 0:19:08 | 0:19:11 | |
# From things that I'd said. # | 0:19:11 | 0:19:15 | |
He had this incredible, almost operatic type of voice, | 0:19:15 | 0:19:19 | |
and it was unique for him, and so he loved the really unhappy songs | 0:19:19 | 0:19:25 | |
because it lent itself to his way of singing. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:27 | |
This very high voice with the vibrato, | 0:19:27 | 0:19:31 | |
which nobody else was doing then. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:32 | |
# Oh... # | 0:19:32 | 0:19:39 | |
And when the voices of Robin, Barry and Maurice came together, | 0:19:39 | 0:19:42 | |
it was a magical blend. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:45 | |
What is unique about their vocal harmony? | 0:19:45 | 0:19:47 | |
Something that only the Bee Gees, the Beach Boys, | 0:19:47 | 0:19:50 | |
Everly Brothers - sibling harmonies. It's a very unique sound | 0:19:50 | 0:19:53 | |
and it's almost impossible for any other act to achieve that sound. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:57 | |
# I've just got to get a message to you | 0:19:57 | 0:20:01 | |
# Hold on, hold on... # | 0:20:02 | 0:20:06 | |
We'd hear them in the studio and take out the track and play back, | 0:20:06 | 0:20:10 | |
you'd just hear those vocals | 0:20:10 | 0:20:11 | |
and they would find something wrong with it and do it again | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
but it was heavenly to me. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:15 | |
# Hold on... # | 0:20:15 | 0:20:18 | |
There is something so gorgeous to me about families singing together. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:22 | |
Their voices sound so rich | 0:20:22 | 0:20:25 | |
and full and beautiful and their ballads were | 0:20:25 | 0:20:29 | |
such a great showcase for their songwriting and for their vocals. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:33 | |
# I told him I'm in no hurry... # | 0:20:33 | 0:20:37 | |
The brothers' voices may have mixed well, | 0:20:38 | 0:20:40 | |
but the internal power struggles were less harmonious. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:43 | |
Both Barry and Robin wanted to sing lead. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:46 | |
Whilst on the plus side they have the sibling voices, | 0:20:46 | 0:20:49 | |
sibling rivalry - that must be very difficult to deal with. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:53 | |
It's a very complex dynamic being in a family, | 0:20:53 | 0:20:56 | |
let alone trying to create with your siblings, and then have | 0:20:56 | 0:21:01 | |
an elder sibling, which at some point would have been dictating the rules. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:06 | |
Most of us, we grow up, move out of the house. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:10 | |
They were stitched together at the hip | 0:21:10 | 0:21:12 | |
because this was their business. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:15 | |
Whilst aching for a distance, a gap, breathing space between each of them, | 0:21:15 | 0:21:20 | |
they managed to translate that into a creative output, which is fragile. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:24 | |
If they get it wrong, it breaks. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:26 | |
# O-o-oh o-o-o-o-oh... # | 0:21:27 | 0:21:33 | |
But for the moment, the brothers stayed united | 0:21:33 | 0:21:35 | |
and they were unaware just how big the band had become in Europe. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:40 | |
SCREAMING | 0:21:40 | 0:21:42 | |
The Bee Gees, the most exciting sound in the world. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:48 | |
It was the first time we'd ever seen 12,000 kids in one place. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:53 | |
I remember that car. The car got crushed. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:55 | |
We were lying on our backs pushing the roof up, so it was pretty hairy. | 0:21:55 | 0:22:00 | |
But all we could think of was, "Wow, just like the Beatles!" | 0:22:00 | 0:22:04 | |
The desire to top the Beatles spurred them on | 0:22:04 | 0:22:06 | |
and the band's 1968 tour featured a 16-piece orchestra. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:11 | |
They could show to the audience that they could do live | 0:22:11 | 0:22:15 | |
what they could do on record, and believe me, they did do it live. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:20 | |
It was as good, every bit as good as the actual record. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:24 | |
# Talk about the life in Massachusetts... # | 0:22:24 | 0:22:30 | |
First time we played with them on a tour, which was '68 in Germany, | 0:22:30 | 0:22:34 | |
I was fascinated by the way the orchestra worked on stage, so I think | 0:22:34 | 0:22:40 | |
I watched them every night. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:42 | |
It was a bit of an introduction for me to that kind of performance. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:47 | |
In fact, it inspired me to have a go at that myself a year later. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:51 | |
# Upon the seventh seasick day | 0:22:51 | 0:22:58 | |
# We made our port of call... # | 0:22:58 | 0:23:05 | |
The Bee Gees had hit upon a winning formula, but their albums proved | 0:23:07 | 0:23:11 | |
they were unafraid to experiment in the studio. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:13 | |
The first few albums are filled with these songs, | 0:23:15 | 0:23:17 | |
it's just, "I don't know where this is coming from." | 0:23:17 | 0:23:20 | |
They're just really weird, inexplicable songs. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:24 | |
They're the product of very inexplicable, unique imaginations. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:28 | |
CHANTING IN LATIN | 0:23:30 | 0:23:32 | |
They came right out of left field. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:37 | |
Colin and I didn't know where they came from. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:41 | |
They were writing at incredible pace. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:45 | |
It was just flowing out of them because things were going well. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:48 | |
If one of us had an idea, | 0:23:48 | 0:23:50 | |
we would all jump in and stretch that out and make that work. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:54 | |
The guys used to just come up with songs, | 0:23:54 | 0:23:56 | |
like, pick them out of the air. | 0:23:56 | 0:23:58 | |
It was a sense that we psychically knew where each other was going, | 0:23:58 | 0:24:02 | |
because we knew each other, | 0:24:02 | 0:24:03 | |
and the greatest thing about songwriters | 0:24:03 | 0:24:06 | |
and why they don't last is because you have to be in the same zone. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:10 | |
Nobody has the relationship, | 0:24:10 | 0:24:12 | |
or has had the relationship that three brothers have. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:15 | |
# Every Christian lion-hearted man will show you... # | 0:24:15 | 0:24:22 | |
A few years back, I had a boring period doing not much, | 0:24:23 | 0:24:27 | |
but I decided to write out their lyrics. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:30 | |
I was really kind of enamoured by it. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:33 | |
There's actual poetry in these, | 0:24:33 | 0:24:35 | |
and the amount of work that went into the placing of the words, | 0:24:35 | 0:24:39 | |
and they're not unnecessary words, | 0:24:39 | 0:24:41 | |
it's not done just for vocal harmony or technique. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:44 | |
# I'm not trying to make history | 0:24:55 | 0:24:59 | |
# You could have been good to me... # | 0:24:59 | 0:25:01 | |
It's very difficult to kind of pigeonhole them. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:03 | |
They're sort of psychedelic but sort of not, | 0:25:03 | 0:25:05 | |
they're sort of middle of the road but sort of not. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:08 | |
They've just got a complete niche of their own. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:10 | |
# Mother | 0:25:10 | 0:25:13 | |
# I'm going to join the air force today... # | 0:25:14 | 0:25:18 | |
The band had their unconventional moments in the studio | 0:25:18 | 0:25:20 | |
while their image was also "different". | 0:25:20 | 0:25:23 | |
It was a very curious band, wasn't it? | 0:25:23 | 0:25:26 | |
I mean, you've got the Mr Handsome in the middle, you know, | 0:25:26 | 0:25:30 | |
with his absolute beautifully placed teeth... | 0:25:30 | 0:25:33 | |
Barry had the pin-up looks. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:35 | |
It was Barry, it was always Barry. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:37 | |
Maurice at one side... | 0:25:37 | 0:25:40 | |
An aimless, pleasant chap of no note... | 0:25:40 | 0:25:44 | |
Maurice didn't look very comfortable | 0:25:44 | 0:25:48 | |
standing doing synchronised movements with the rest of them. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:51 | |
He always looked much more comfortable with a guitar. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:54 | |
And then you've got Robin on the other side | 0:25:54 | 0:25:57 | |
with horses' gnashers, right, | 0:25:57 | 0:26:00 | |
worst hairdo in the world, | 0:26:00 | 0:26:02 | |
but incredible depth of character and soul. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:06 | |
# Let there be love... # | 0:26:07 | 0:26:10 | |
The brothers were pop stars and their lives became showbiz events. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:14 | |
But the child stars were ill-prepared | 0:26:15 | 0:26:18 | |
for the trappings of success and discovered that fame had a price. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:21 | |
We wanted to be famous, but we didn't know what came with that. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:25 | |
We never got into heavy drugs. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:28 | |
It was either grass, for Maurice it was drink, | 0:26:28 | 0:26:32 | |
and maybe to some extent for all of us it was amphetamines. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:35 | |
# Let there be love. # | 0:26:35 | 0:26:39 | |
In this whirlwind, the Bee Gees decided to embark on | 0:26:39 | 0:26:42 | |
the recording of Odessa, their take on the concept album. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:45 | |
As we get towards the end of the '60s, | 0:26:45 | 0:26:48 | |
other bands start to have an influence on the charts, | 0:26:48 | 0:26:51 | |
and most notably Pink Floyd now, | 0:26:51 | 0:26:53 | |
and the early Pink Floyd was very, very experimental. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:56 | |
# Float on a river for ever and ever | 0:26:58 | 0:27:02 | |
# Emily, Emily | 0:27:02 | 0:27:04 | |
# There is no other day... # | 0:27:04 | 0:27:07 | |
Odessa, I would say, | 0:27:07 | 0:27:10 | |
is probably their nod to a psychedelic Pink Floyd, | 0:27:10 | 0:27:14 | |
just a nod in the right direction | 0:27:14 | 0:27:16 | |
because they weren't a psychedelic band. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:19 | |
# Who is the girl with the crying face | 0:27:19 | 0:27:25 | |
# Looking at millions of signs? # | 0:27:25 | 0:27:28 | |
Fame, ego and excess were now getting to the band | 0:27:30 | 0:27:33 | |
and the Bee Gees seemed to be losing direction. | 0:27:33 | 0:27:36 | |
Odessa is a very... | 0:27:36 | 0:27:38 | |
It's a very difficult record to pigeonhole. | 0:27:38 | 0:27:40 | |
It opens with the title track, | 0:27:40 | 0:27:43 | |
written by Robin, and it's just insane. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:46 | |
# Baa baa, black sheep, you haven't any wool | 0:27:46 | 0:27:53 | |
# Captain Richardson left himself a lonely wife in Hull... # | 0:27:53 | 0:28:00 | |
It was starting to crumble. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:03 | |
Unfortunately, it was so sad, this beautiful thing was falling apart. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:09 | |
Stigwood made a fateful decision on the next single | 0:28:09 | 0:28:12 | |
and chose Barry's song as the A side, | 0:28:12 | 0:28:15 | |
leaving Robin on the flip side, which was to tear the band apart. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:18 | |
# When I was small | 0:28:18 | 0:28:21 | |
# And Christmas trees were tall | 0:28:21 | 0:28:24 | |
# We used to love while others used to play... # | 0:28:26 | 0:28:31 | |
I didn't make the choices about what the A side or B side were. | 0:28:31 | 0:28:34 | |
I used to hear these things third-hand, second-hand | 0:28:34 | 0:28:37 | |
and go, "What's going on?" And that's what led to the split, | 0:28:37 | 0:28:41 | |
really the obsession with Rob to be an individual. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:44 | |
I sensed that it was all over and I said to Colin, | 0:28:44 | 0:28:48 | |
I told Colin Peters, I said, "Mate, it's time to bail out." | 0:28:48 | 0:28:52 | |
And Colin said, "No, no, no, it's fine, it's fine, it's all great." | 0:28:53 | 0:28:57 | |
I said, "Well, see you later." | 0:28:57 | 0:28:59 | |
Not long after that, Robin bailed. | 0:28:59 | 0:29:02 | |
Then Colin bailed. | 0:29:03 | 0:29:05 | |
And then it was Barry and Maurice. | 0:29:05 | 0:29:08 | |
I figured at that point it was over, | 0:29:08 | 0:29:10 | |
you know, as brothers and friends, it just was no longer happening. | 0:29:10 | 0:29:14 | |
# But you and I | 0:29:14 | 0:29:16 | |
# Our love will never die | 0:29:16 | 0:29:19 | |
# But guess we'll cry come first of May. # | 0:29:21 | 0:29:26 | |
Odessa was released in 1969 while the Bee Gees splintered in public. | 0:29:26 | 0:29:32 | |
# Every single word has been spoken | 0:29:32 | 0:29:38 | |
# It's much too late to change the ways... # | 0:29:41 | 0:29:47 | |
There was a lot of music papers who always wanted you to say something | 0:29:47 | 0:29:51 | |
and as it turned out, they were setting Robin against me | 0:29:51 | 0:29:54 | |
and me against Robin | 0:29:54 | 0:29:55 | |
and these were things we'd never experienced in our lives. | 0:29:55 | 0:29:58 | |
I mean, you said things, but those things didn't have any meaning. | 0:29:58 | 0:30:01 | |
You just said them because you wanted to see your name in the paper, | 0:30:01 | 0:30:05 | |
you know. If that's ego, yeah. Yeah. And we were all doing that. | 0:30:05 | 0:30:09 | |
That was not a good time, | 0:30:09 | 0:30:10 | |
and so we separated for 15 months. | 0:30:10 | 0:30:13 | |
In 1970, Stigwood made amends and reunited the brothers, | 0:30:14 | 0:30:17 | |
this time as a trio. | 0:30:17 | 0:30:19 | |
The songwriting magic was still there. | 0:30:19 | 0:30:22 | |
Robin and Barry, who were the two that always | 0:30:22 | 0:30:25 | |
historically have the problem with each other, | 0:30:25 | 0:30:28 | |
meet, and set down and write, How Can You Mend A Broken Heart? | 0:30:28 | 0:30:32 | |
# I could never see tomorrow | 0:30:32 | 0:30:38 | |
# But I was never told about the sorrows | 0:30:38 | 0:30:45 | |
# And how can you mend a broken heart? | 0:30:47 | 0:30:54 | |
# How can you stop the rain from falling down? | 0:30:56 | 0:31:01 | |
# How can you stop the sun from shining? | 0:31:02 | 0:31:08 | |
# What makes the world go round? # | 0:31:09 | 0:31:14 | |
Emotional content is not about | 0:31:14 | 0:31:16 | |
relationships external to the group. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:19 | |
It is actually about these three men | 0:31:19 | 0:31:24 | |
that were boys... | 0:31:24 | 0:31:25 | |
..and their existence together. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:30 | |
# And how can you mend this broken man? | 0:31:31 | 0:31:40 | |
# How can a loser ever win? | 0:31:40 | 0:31:43 | |
# Please help me mend my broken heart | 0:31:46 | 0:31:52 | |
# And let me live again. # | 0:31:53 | 0:31:57 | |
But the comeback was short-lived | 0:31:57 | 0:32:00 | |
because in the early '70s, it was less about ballads. | 0:32:00 | 0:32:03 | |
MUSIC: Metal Guru by T Rex | 0:32:03 | 0:32:05 | |
# Yeah, yeah... # | 0:32:05 | 0:32:08 | |
Music now looked and sounded different... | 0:32:10 | 0:32:13 | |
# Metal guru, is it you? | 0:32:13 | 0:32:15 | |
# Metal guru, is it you? # | 0:32:17 | 0:32:20 | |
..and for the Bee Gees, the hits dried up. | 0:32:20 | 0:32:23 | |
By 1972, we were literally out the door, you know, | 0:32:23 | 0:32:27 | |
nobody was really interested, and that's... | 0:32:27 | 0:32:29 | |
..that's something that hits you very hard. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:33 | |
"Wow, no-one is interested. | 0:32:33 | 0:32:35 | |
"Nobody wants to play our record. What do we do?" | 0:32:35 | 0:32:38 | |
They'd gone from stardom to supper clubs, | 0:32:48 | 0:32:50 | |
but for the Bee Gees this was a variety homecoming of sorts. | 0:32:50 | 0:32:54 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:32:54 | 0:32:56 | |
Northern English clubs, chicken in a basket, everybody drunk, | 0:32:56 | 0:32:59 | |
pretty much like early Australian audiences, | 0:32:59 | 0:33:01 | |
we didn't feel like we were out of sorts. | 0:33:01 | 0:33:03 | |
We felt quite happy - "OK, we'll do this, make a bit of money, | 0:33:03 | 0:33:06 | |
"put some food on the table." | 0:33:06 | 0:33:08 | |
# Run to me | 0:33:08 | 0:33:11 | |
# Whenever you're lonely... # | 0:33:11 | 0:33:14 | |
But Stigwood still believed in the brothers | 0:33:14 | 0:33:16 | |
and he saw their future in soul. | 0:33:16 | 0:33:19 | |
# Daydreaming and I'm thinking of you | 0:33:19 | 0:33:22 | |
# Daydreaming and I'm thinking of you... # | 0:33:22 | 0:33:24 | |
Who better to take them there than Aretha Franklin's producer, | 0:33:24 | 0:33:27 | |
Arif Mardin? | 0:33:27 | 0:33:29 | |
What Arif brought to them | 0:33:29 | 0:33:32 | |
was another approach to this emotional content. | 0:33:32 | 0:33:35 | |
This is soul from an American perspective. | 0:33:35 | 0:33:38 | |
We left the maudlin stuff, we left the romantic, heavy stuff behind, | 0:33:38 | 0:33:41 | |
and we sort of locked into what was happening with the Delfonics, | 0:33:41 | 0:33:45 | |
the falsetto singers, and we started to fall in love with that. | 0:33:45 | 0:33:49 | |
# All of the wind | 0:33:49 | 0:33:51 | |
# La-la-la-loving | 0:33:51 | 0:33:55 | |
# I love you... # | 0:33:55 | 0:33:58 | |
This is an American thing, this is a black thing. | 0:33:58 | 0:34:01 | |
We've got this male falsetto singing a ballad and he's not a eunuch. | 0:34:01 | 0:34:06 | |
This is a regular guy, albeit in tight trousers, | 0:34:06 | 0:34:10 | |
delivering a song which is emotional. | 0:34:10 | 0:34:13 | |
# Give | 0:34:13 | 0:34:14 | |
# All that you have to give... # | 0:34:16 | 0:34:18 | |
It's an accepted format - not amongst white bands, | 0:34:18 | 0:34:22 | |
this is an American gospel/soul thing | 0:34:22 | 0:34:27 | |
but Barry's discovered he has this capacity. | 0:34:27 | 0:34:30 | |
Barry discovered his falsetto | 0:34:30 | 0:34:31 | |
and he started writing for that kind of, for that genre. | 0:34:31 | 0:34:35 | |
-# Blaming it all -Blaming it all | 0:34:35 | 0:34:37 | |
-# On the nights on Broadway -Blaming on the nights of Broadway | 0:34:37 | 0:34:41 | |
# Singing them love songs... # | 0:34:41 | 0:34:42 | |
I thought, "OK, I don't mind making a fool of myself" | 0:34:42 | 0:34:45 | |
so I went out and did that, and everyone went, "Oh, my goodness." | 0:34:45 | 0:34:50 | |
That opened up the Pandora's box | 0:34:50 | 0:34:52 | |
because suddenly there was a sound on there that was magnificent. | 0:34:52 | 0:34:56 | |
It wasn't an attempt to deliver American black music. | 0:34:56 | 0:34:58 | |
It was an attempt, I think, to be comfortable within this new space. | 0:34:58 | 0:35:03 | |
Moving to America was all part of that narrative - | 0:35:03 | 0:35:07 | |
absorb your surroundings, absorb the culture, | 0:35:07 | 0:35:11 | |
absorb the sounds. | 0:35:11 | 0:35:13 | |
Arif helped them define the elements of the new Bee Gees sound. | 0:35:23 | 0:35:27 | |
During this time in the studio, | 0:35:27 | 0:35:29 | |
Barry not only discovered his falsetto, | 0:35:29 | 0:35:31 | |
but in 1975, the Bee Gees locked into their groove. | 0:35:31 | 0:35:34 | |
When you looked at the charts at that time, you think, | 0:35:35 | 0:35:38 | |
"Well, what are people really going for?" | 0:35:38 | 0:35:41 | |
And people wanted to dance. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:43 | |
There's this story that's told on the radio, | 0:35:47 | 0:35:49 | |
they're driving on the railroad track... | 0:35:49 | 0:35:52 | |
There's some legal requirement that every time one of the Bee Gees was interviewed, | 0:35:53 | 0:35:56 | |
-they'd mention driving... -HE MIMICS TRAIN CHUGGING | 0:35:56 | 0:35:59 | |
It would go click-de-click-de-click... | 0:36:01 | 0:36:03 | |
And then it would stop. | 0:36:03 | 0:36:05 | |
And every night, we'd go over this, and it started sticking in my head. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:08 | |
That became in intro to Jive Talkin'. | 0:36:08 | 0:36:10 | |
# J-J-J-Jive talkin' | 0:36:10 | 0:36:12 | |
# Tellin' me lies | 0:36:12 | 0:36:15 | |
# Jive talkin' | 0:36:15 | 0:36:17 | |
# You wear a disguise... # | 0:36:17 | 0:36:19 | |
I love that little keyboard riff in it. | 0:36:19 | 0:36:22 | |
# Doo-doo-doo-doo-doo, doo-doo-doo... # | 0:36:22 | 0:36:24 | |
HE PLAYS PIANO RIFF FROM JIVE TALKIN' | 0:36:24 | 0:36:26 | |
# Doo-be-doo-be-doo Doo-be-doo-be-doo... # | 0:36:31 | 0:36:33 | |
Little handclap. | 0:36:35 | 0:36:37 | |
Doesn't get better than that. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:39 | |
# Oh, you're jive talkin' | 0:36:39 | 0:36:42 | |
# You're telling me lies, yeah | 0:36:42 | 0:36:44 | |
# Jive talkin'... # | 0:36:44 | 0:36:46 | |
That was a real breakthrough, Jive Talkin'. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:48 | |
We put it out on RSO without the name of the Bee Gees on it, | 0:36:48 | 0:36:52 | |
because by then, their stock had fallen so low | 0:36:52 | 0:36:55 | |
with radio stations in America, they weren't playing Bee Gees records | 0:36:55 | 0:36:59 | |
because of the two previous, sort of, flop albums. | 0:36:59 | 0:37:02 | |
And within hours of the record landing at all the radio stations, | 0:37:02 | 0:37:05 | |
they were calling saying "Who is this? This is amazing!" | 0:37:05 | 0:37:08 | |
# Ba-be-ba-be-ba-be-da Ba-be-ba-be-ba-be-da. # | 0:37:08 | 0:37:10 | |
The Bee Gees were back! | 0:37:14 | 0:37:16 | |
They united in image and song | 0:37:16 | 0:37:18 | |
and self-produced their next album Children Of The World. | 0:37:18 | 0:37:22 | |
Meanwhile, in New York, the underground sound of the dance floor | 0:37:26 | 0:37:29 | |
that was to become key to the Bee Gees' rebirth | 0:37:29 | 0:37:32 | |
was seeping into the mainstream. | 0:37:32 | 0:37:34 | |
Hello? | 0:37:34 | 0:37:35 | |
Disco used to be the black, Hispanic and gay subculture - | 0:37:40 | 0:37:46 | |
dancing at night, to cope with the daytime | 0:37:46 | 0:37:50 | |
in a bankrupt and decaying New York. | 0:37:50 | 0:37:52 | |
One of the things that makes disco music, a lot of disco, incredible, | 0:37:52 | 0:37:56 | |
is that there's an ineffable melancholy of the centre of it. | 0:37:56 | 0:38:01 | |
Obviously, the Bee Gees were perfect at that. | 0:38:01 | 0:38:05 | |
They were big on melancholy ballads. | 0:38:05 | 0:38:07 | |
There's something... | 0:38:08 | 0:38:11 | |
Just that, sort of, ineffable sense of melancholy. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:13 | |
They get it perfectly. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:14 | |
You Should Be Dancing is the first point at which they start to discover the full-on disco sound. | 0:38:16 | 0:38:22 | |
They started to do a song-writing session, | 0:38:22 | 0:38:24 | |
of which that would form | 0:38:24 | 0:38:26 | |
the basis of what became the Saturday Night Fever project. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:31 | |
Mine was the little repeat echo. | 0:38:31 | 0:38:32 | |
# What you doing on your back? # | 0:38:32 | 0:38:34 | |
# What you doing on your back? Ah... | 0:38:34 | 0:38:38 | |
# You should be dancing, yeah... # | 0:38:38 | 0:38:41 | |
One of my best friends, Nik Cohn, wrote this article for New York | 0:38:41 | 0:38:44 | |
magazine about what he called the return of Saturday night, | 0:38:44 | 0:38:48 | |
which was back to the '50s sort of thing. | 0:38:48 | 0:38:49 | |
Doing your hair and getting all dressed up and going one night | 0:38:49 | 0:38:52 | |
and blowing it all on the dance floor. | 0:38:52 | 0:38:54 | |
Stigwood saw the article - he promptly optioned it for a movie. | 0:38:54 | 0:38:58 | |
So then the whole idea was that we need a soundtrack, | 0:38:58 | 0:39:01 | |
and of course, the Bee Gees, since they were cresting a wave... | 0:39:01 | 0:39:04 | |
They weren't known as disco, | 0:39:04 | 0:39:05 | |
they were just really having a lot of hits. | 0:39:05 | 0:39:07 | |
Three titles came into my head at that period, | 0:39:07 | 0:39:10 | |
and one was Staying Alive. | 0:39:10 | 0:39:12 | |
The other was More Than A Woman. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:14 | |
And Night Fever. | 0:39:14 | 0:39:16 | |
And Robert Stigwood called up and said, | 0:39:16 | 0:39:18 | |
"Have you got any ideas for the title of the film?" | 0:39:18 | 0:39:20 | |
So I said, "Strangely enough, I've got a title called Night Fever." | 0:39:20 | 0:39:23 | |
And Robert Stigwood said, | 0:39:23 | 0:39:25 | |
"Well, yeah, that's OK, but it sounds a bit pornographic." So... | 0:39:25 | 0:39:29 | |
While Stigwood pondered over the pornographic connotations, | 0:39:29 | 0:39:32 | |
the Bee Gees took inspiration from an easy listening classic - | 0:39:32 | 0:39:35 | |
Theme From A Summer Place. | 0:39:35 | 0:39:37 | |
Every time you hear that, | 0:39:43 | 0:39:45 | |
instantly, you're in a warm place, you're by the sea, | 0:39:45 | 0:39:49 | |
you're having a cool drink. And I always thought | 0:39:49 | 0:39:52 | |
that was a great song to make into a disco track. | 0:39:52 | 0:39:54 | |
When Barry heard me doing that, | 0:39:54 | 0:39:56 | |
he said, "Oh, let's turn it round a little bit." | 0:39:56 | 0:39:59 | |
He got me to change it. | 0:39:59 | 0:40:00 | |
We inverted the chords, we put it around and we came up with this... | 0:40:00 | 0:40:04 | |
We recorded the song and it was Night Fever. | 0:40:09 | 0:40:12 | |
# Listen to the ground | 0:40:12 | 0:40:13 | |
# There is movement all around | 0:40:13 | 0:40:15 | |
# There is something goin' down | 0:40:15 | 0:40:17 | |
# And I can feel it. | 0:40:17 | 0:40:18 | |
# On the waves of the air | 0:40:20 | 0:40:22 | |
# There is dancin' out there | 0:40:22 | 0:40:24 | |
# If it's somethin' we can share | 0:40:24 | 0:40:26 | |
# We can steal it. # | 0:40:26 | 0:40:27 | |
Reimaged, the brothers united as a trio with hair primped | 0:40:27 | 0:40:31 | |
and shirts undone, while Barry stepped forward as the front man. | 0:40:31 | 0:40:34 | |
The sound was quite black, the clothes were often white. | 0:40:34 | 0:40:38 | |
When we look at how the Bee Gees were re-presented, this was | 0:40:38 | 0:40:43 | |
a new unit and suddenly we have a band where they all look the same, | 0:40:43 | 0:40:49 | |
we have a band that look like something | 0:40:49 | 0:40:52 | |
that comes out of the Bronx, | 0:40:52 | 0:40:54 | |
something that is a combination of influences that might hark | 0:40:54 | 0:40:58 | |
back to the film Superfly. | 0:40:58 | 0:41:00 | |
And, in Superfly, there's a key character, Ron O'Neal. | 0:41:00 | 0:41:05 | |
This is someone from the hood. | 0:41:05 | 0:41:07 | |
This is a criminal and there's a certain amount of street cred | 0:41:07 | 0:41:10 | |
that goes with this image, which is black America in the '70s. | 0:41:10 | 0:41:15 | |
# Here I am | 0:41:15 | 0:41:17 | |
# Prayin' for this moment to last | 0:41:17 | 0:41:21 | |
# Livin' on the music so fine | 0:41:21 | 0:41:24 | |
# Borne on the wind | 0:41:24 | 0:41:27 | |
# Makin' it mine | 0:41:27 | 0:41:32 | |
# Night fever, night fever | 0:41:32 | 0:41:35 | |
# We know how to do it. # | 0:41:35 | 0:41:37 | |
If you put it in context of the time, in the '70s we'd got | 0:41:37 | 0:41:41 | |
The Professionals and The Sweeney rushing around, bashing people up. | 0:41:41 | 0:41:46 | |
You pillock! | 0:41:46 | 0:41:48 | |
One more word from you and I'll nick you. | 0:41:50 | 0:41:52 | |
And then you go to these beautiful men in gold satin, singing about | 0:41:52 | 0:41:57 | |
impossible love and broken hearts and... | 0:41:57 | 0:42:02 | |
and looking wistful. | 0:42:02 | 0:42:04 | |
# How deep is your love? | 0:42:04 | 0:42:06 | |
# How deep is your love? How deep is your love? | 0:42:06 | 0:42:10 | |
# I really need to learn. # | 0:42:10 | 0:42:13 | |
When John Travolta strutted through the Bronx in Saturday Night Fever | 0:42:13 | 0:42:17 | |
and the Bee Gees music was married with celluloid, | 0:42:17 | 0:42:20 | |
the woman's man was born. | 0:42:20 | 0:42:22 | |
# You can tell by the way I use my walk | 0:42:22 | 0:42:24 | |
# I'm a woman's man, no time to talk | 0:42:24 | 0:42:27 | |
# Music loud and women warm | 0:42:27 | 0:42:28 | |
# I've been kicked around since I was born... # | 0:42:28 | 0:42:31 | |
The bit at the beginning where John Travolta is | 0:42:31 | 0:42:34 | |
walking down the street with his tight trousers | 0:42:34 | 0:42:36 | |
and his shirt unbuttoned with a sort of macho swagger, | 0:42:36 | 0:42:39 | |
it just caught... | 0:42:39 | 0:42:41 | |
that moment and crystallised it. | 0:42:41 | 0:42:45 | |
# Whether you're a brother or whether you're a mother | 0:42:45 | 0:42:47 | |
# You're stayin' alive Stayin' alive | 0:42:47 | 0:42:49 | |
# Feel the city breakin' and everybody shakin' | 0:42:49 | 0:42:51 | |
# And we're stayin' alive Stayin' alive | 0:42:51 | 0:42:54 | |
# Whether you're a brother or whether you're a mother... # | 0:42:54 | 0:42:56 | |
Their images merged and the Bee Gees and Travolta went global. | 0:42:56 | 0:43:00 | |
It gave them an element of credibility | 0:43:02 | 0:43:04 | |
because they were now part of the movie. | 0:43:04 | 0:43:06 | |
This is an immaculately clean-cut set of individuals. | 0:43:06 | 0:43:11 | |
So this is mass appeal now. | 0:43:11 | 0:43:13 | |
To be a young woman in Leicester and see that on a cinema screen | 0:43:13 | 0:43:19 | |
was to be, in a way, exposed to Studio 54 | 0:43:19 | 0:43:24 | |
and all that glorious decadence. | 0:43:24 | 0:43:26 | |
We were looking for hedonism and some glamour and some excitement | 0:43:26 | 0:43:31 | |
that wasn't making us think too hard. | 0:43:31 | 0:43:34 | |
# Stayin' ali-i-i-ive. # | 0:43:34 | 0:43:41 | |
The Bee Gees had been big in the '60s | 0:43:41 | 0:43:44 | |
but, on the back of Saturday Night Fever, | 0:43:44 | 0:43:46 | |
they went massive, defining pop culture in 1978. | 0:43:46 | 0:43:49 | |
How Deep Is Your Love was number one before the film came out | 0:43:51 | 0:43:54 | |
but to go from that to a million records a week was just unreal. | 0:43:54 | 0:43:58 | |
We lost all sense of reality. | 0:43:58 | 0:43:59 | |
People climbing over our walls, people driving past | 0:43:59 | 0:44:03 | |
and pumping the Fever music outside the gates | 0:44:03 | 0:44:07 | |
and, you know, that kind of craziness. | 0:44:07 | 0:44:10 | |
Saturday Night Fever, the album, is, I think, the defining | 0:44:10 | 0:44:14 | |
album of the '70s, like Sgt Pepper was with the '60s. | 0:44:14 | 0:44:17 | |
They got two generations at that point. | 0:44:17 | 0:44:19 | |
They got the housewives that were probably with them | 0:44:19 | 0:44:23 | |
since the '60s, who now had kids, | 0:44:23 | 0:44:26 | |
that thought, "That's my band." | 0:44:26 | 0:44:28 | |
Shut that door... | 0:44:30 | 0:44:32 | |
The whole world had Saturday Night Fever | 0:44:32 | 0:44:34 | |
but soon this went Saturday night light entertainment. | 0:44:34 | 0:44:37 | |
Grayson's groovers. | 0:44:37 | 0:44:40 | |
SONG: Night Fever | 0:44:40 | 0:44:42 | |
Five, six, seven, and... | 0:44:44 | 0:44:46 | |
It seems that everybody wants to be a John Travolta. | 0:44:46 | 0:44:50 | |
The problem is that film moves just too fast | 0:44:50 | 0:44:52 | |
for the devotees to memorise all the steps | 0:44:52 | 0:44:55 | |
so back-to-school they've come, for dancing lessons. | 0:44:55 | 0:44:58 | |
-Get your John Travolta finger. -John Travolta finger. | 0:44:58 | 0:45:01 | |
Touch your left elbow with it. Here we go. | 0:45:01 | 0:45:03 | |
It's point and touch and point and touch. | 0:45:03 | 0:45:05 | |
And that, I am told, is what they mean by a beautiful mover. | 0:45:05 | 0:45:09 | |
In early 1978, the Bee Gees owned the charts and there was | 0:45:09 | 0:45:13 | |
no space for anyone else, unless you worked with or were related to them. | 0:45:13 | 0:45:17 | |
# Do it light | 0:45:17 | 0:45:19 | |
# Taking me through the night | 0:45:19 | 0:45:21 | |
# Shadow dancing. # | 0:45:21 | 0:45:23 | |
Their number ones were gazumped by number ones of other songs | 0:45:23 | 0:45:27 | |
that they'd written or produced. | 0:45:27 | 0:45:28 | |
# If I can't have you | 0:45:28 | 0:45:31 | |
# I don't want nobody, baby. # | 0:45:31 | 0:45:33 | |
What's amazing with the Bee Gees, they'd write songs, | 0:45:33 | 0:45:36 | |
we'd record it and they'd be great and then suddenly | 0:45:36 | 0:45:38 | |
they'd say, "Oh, no, it's not good enough," and push it aside. | 0:45:38 | 0:45:42 | |
And Andy would take it and get a hit with it. | 0:45:42 | 0:45:45 | |
The Bee Gees continued riding the crest of the disco wave | 0:45:45 | 0:45:49 | |
and hit number one again in 1979. | 0:45:49 | 0:45:51 | |
# Loving you | 0:45:51 | 0:45:56 | |
# Tragedy | 0:45:56 | 0:45:58 | |
# When the feeling's gone and you can't go on | 0:45:58 | 0:46:00 | |
# It's tragedy | 0:46:00 | 0:46:02 | |
# When the morning cries and you don't know why | 0:46:02 | 0:46:04 | |
# It's hard to bear | 0:46:04 | 0:46:06 | |
# With no-one to love you you're goin' nowhere. # | 0:46:06 | 0:46:10 | |
I remember seeing Telly Savalas on television, | 0:46:12 | 0:46:15 | |
because Kojak was huge, and his comment was, | 0:46:15 | 0:46:18 | |
"You know, like everything else, this bubble will burst." | 0:46:18 | 0:46:20 | |
And I always kept that in my head. | 0:46:20 | 0:46:22 | |
You can't have that kind of success without criticism | 0:46:22 | 0:46:25 | |
and it's something we had to learn, and we did. | 0:46:25 | 0:46:27 | |
The backlash against disco was already beginning because it got | 0:46:27 | 0:46:31 | |
really bloated and really big really fast | 0:46:31 | 0:46:34 | |
and I think the Bee Gees | 0:46:34 | 0:46:36 | |
were kind of seen as the apex of that bloat. | 0:46:36 | 0:46:38 | |
# Tragedy | 0:46:38 | 0:46:40 | |
# When the feeling's gone and you can't go on | 0:46:40 | 0:46:43 | |
# It's tragedy. # | 0:46:43 | 0:46:44 | |
The success of Saturday Night Fever | 0:46:44 | 0:46:47 | |
was the final nail in the coffin for disco. | 0:46:47 | 0:46:51 | |
Suddenly, disco became the sound of white, straight people. | 0:46:51 | 0:46:55 | |
# Tragedy! # | 0:46:55 | 0:46:56 | |
But tragedy was nothing if not prophetic. | 0:46:56 | 0:46:59 | |
The Bee Gees were so big it was painful. | 0:46:59 | 0:47:02 | |
# Meaningless songs | 0:47:02 | 0:47:05 | |
# In very high voices | 0:47:05 | 0:47:10 | |
# With 1,000 violins. # | 0:47:10 | 0:47:14 | |
Richard Curtis and I wrote this song, | 0:47:15 | 0:47:17 | |
which was sort of a Mickey take of the Bee Gees. | 0:47:17 | 0:47:21 | |
I don't think they liked it. I can't think why. | 0:47:21 | 0:47:24 | |
# In a pair of tight, gold jeans. # | 0:47:24 | 0:47:29 | |
What encapsulates medallion man was the cover | 0:47:29 | 0:47:32 | |
of The Children Of The World album. | 0:47:32 | 0:47:35 | |
You can almost smell the Aramis coming off the album cover. | 0:47:35 | 0:47:39 | |
They were sort of looking in the middle distance. | 0:47:39 | 0:47:42 | |
It looked like they were caught in a wind tunnel. | 0:47:42 | 0:47:44 | |
It was quite a sort of macho image, | 0:47:44 | 0:47:47 | |
but it was also quite sort of otherworldly. | 0:47:47 | 0:47:50 | |
The teeth and hair and the medallion and the... | 0:47:50 | 0:47:54 | |
You know, that was... That became uncool really quickly. | 0:47:54 | 0:47:58 | |
Some people have implied that your high voices, | 0:47:58 | 0:48:00 | |
coupled with the long hair, | 0:48:00 | 0:48:02 | |
shirt open to the naval, revealing hairy chest and medallion look | 0:48:02 | 0:48:05 | |
suggests that you are somewhat less than masculine and that you... | 0:48:05 | 0:48:09 | |
# Look the other way. # | 0:48:09 | 0:48:11 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:48:11 | 0:48:13 | |
Exactly. What do you say to that? | 0:48:13 | 0:48:14 | |
# Ha, ha, ha, ha. # | 0:48:14 | 0:48:17 | |
When these comedians try to mock you, | 0:48:17 | 0:48:21 | |
it's a compliment in disguise. | 0:48:21 | 0:48:24 | |
Very much so. It means that you are a part of the public psyche. | 0:48:25 | 0:48:30 | |
You have a valued and important place in it. | 0:48:30 | 0:48:33 | |
At this point, where the Bee Gees are seen as possibly naff, | 0:48:33 | 0:48:36 | |
they moved behind the scenes. | 0:48:36 | 0:48:37 | |
You know, they realised that the brand, for the time being, | 0:48:37 | 0:48:41 | |
seems to be so irreparably damaged. | 0:48:41 | 0:48:43 | |
In 1980, the Bee Gees parted company with Stigwood. | 0:48:43 | 0:48:47 | |
After filing a lawsuit to be released from RSO Records, | 0:48:47 | 0:48:50 | |
they retreated to the studio and set a different course. | 0:48:50 | 0:48:53 | |
They then embarked on what became the next phase of their career - | 0:48:53 | 0:48:57 | |
as songwriters, guns for hire. | 0:48:57 | 0:48:59 | |
We needed to show that we were actually songwriters and that | 0:48:59 | 0:49:02 | |
Fever was a project, and we were finding all kinds of reasons | 0:49:02 | 0:49:05 | |
to make ourselves feel better. And... | 0:49:05 | 0:49:09 | |
in that way, we wrote songs for other people | 0:49:09 | 0:49:11 | |
that we probably would never have written. | 0:49:11 | 0:49:13 | |
# With the love you're livin' on | 0:49:13 | 0:49:16 | |
# You gotta be mine | 0:49:16 | 0:49:19 | |
# We take it away... # | 0:49:19 | 0:49:22 | |
I was so nervous about working with her, I called Neil Diamond | 0:49:22 | 0:49:25 | |
and so, "What's she like to work with?" You know? | 0:49:25 | 0:49:28 | |
And he said, "Oh, relax, she's great. Just go for it. | 0:49:28 | 0:49:32 | |
"Don't worry about it. She's very professional | 0:49:32 | 0:49:35 | |
"and a very sweet person," so, you know, OK. | 0:49:35 | 0:49:38 | |
# And we got nothing to be sorry for | 0:49:38 | 0:49:42 | |
# Our love is one in a million | 0:49:42 | 0:49:45 | |
# Eyes can see... # | 0:49:45 | 0:49:47 | |
They were now at the upper echelons of the best artists. | 0:49:47 | 0:49:52 | |
They could access anyone, in fact. | 0:49:52 | 0:49:54 | |
# Islands in the stream | 0:49:54 | 0:49:56 | |
# That is what we are | 0:49:56 | 0:49:58 | |
# No-one in between | 0:49:58 | 0:50:01 | |
# How can we be wrong? | 0:50:01 | 0:50:03 | |
# Sail away with me | 0:50:03 | 0:50:05 | |
# To another world. # | 0:50:05 | 0:50:07 | |
These were hit-makers and this gave them a new life, a new tension. | 0:50:07 | 0:50:14 | |
But the songs are written in the same brotherly way, but they target | 0:50:14 | 0:50:19 | |
it for a specific individual and, again, this is a unique quality, | 0:50:19 | 0:50:23 | |
one that had been honed over decades. | 0:50:23 | 0:50:26 | |
# I'm in the middle of a chain reaction | 0:50:26 | 0:50:30 | |
# A chain reaction! # | 0:50:30 | 0:50:32 | |
It just goes to show you that the public image of what the Bee Gees | 0:50:32 | 0:50:35 | |
were has no relation to the kind of quality of their music | 0:50:35 | 0:50:38 | |
and, if you divorce the music from that, people will still buy it. | 0:50:38 | 0:50:42 | |
After spending six years catapulting music's biggest stars | 0:50:42 | 0:50:46 | |
back to the top, by 1987, the Bee Gees were ready to relaunch. | 0:50:46 | 0:50:51 | |
The Bee Gees are still going strong and, yes, I do remember them, just. | 0:50:51 | 0:50:54 | |
Their new album ESP is their 25th LP in a recording career that | 0:50:54 | 0:50:58 | |
has spanned nearly as many years. | 0:50:58 | 0:51:01 | |
You Win Again is the 50th single from the song-writing trio | 0:51:01 | 0:51:04 | |
whose material has been covered by over 100 different artists. | 0:51:04 | 0:51:07 | |
# I couldn't figure why | 0:51:10 | 0:51:11 | |
# You couldn't give me what everybody needs | 0:51:11 | 0:51:14 | |
# I shouldn't let you kick me when I'm down | 0:51:14 | 0:51:19 | |
# My baby... # | 0:51:19 | 0:51:21 | |
We'd really been doing this since we were tiny kids | 0:51:21 | 0:51:24 | |
and we were good at it. We always had blinkers on. | 0:51:24 | 0:51:27 | |
We never could see what else we would do. | 0:51:27 | 0:51:29 | |
And this is all we wanted to do so I think grim determination | 0:51:29 | 0:51:34 | |
and persistence and taking all the blows and all the kicks | 0:51:34 | 0:51:39 | |
and not worrying about it and just getting on with it. | 0:51:39 | 0:51:43 | |
"Well, it wasn't this time but next time." You know? | 0:51:43 | 0:51:45 | |
It's always perceiving that | 0:51:45 | 0:51:47 | |
something great was going to happen, no matter what. | 0:51:47 | 0:51:49 | |
# There's no fight you can't fight | 0:51:49 | 0:51:52 | |
# This battle of love with me | 0:51:52 | 0:51:54 | |
# You win again | 0:51:54 | 0:51:56 | |
# So little time | 0:51:56 | 0:51:58 | |
# We do nothing but compete. # | 0:51:58 | 0:52:00 | |
By the time we get to the '80s, | 0:52:00 | 0:52:03 | |
it is a much more mature Bee Gees that we see on stage. | 0:52:03 | 0:52:07 | |
They've done it all. | 0:52:07 | 0:52:09 | |
There is an audience that has grown up with them | 0:52:09 | 0:52:11 | |
now as well that has stayed with them. It is an older audience. | 0:52:11 | 0:52:16 | |
They are not, at that point, | 0:52:16 | 0:52:18 | |
attempting to appeal to a younger audience. | 0:52:18 | 0:52:21 | |
They just have a fantastic back catalogue. | 0:52:21 | 0:52:23 | |
# Still waters run deep | 0:52:23 | 0:52:26 | |
# Just remember when we lie to each other | 0:52:26 | 0:52:29 | |
# No-one wins and losers weep. # | 0:52:29 | 0:52:33 | |
We were no longer kids, | 0:52:33 | 0:52:34 | |
we were no longer something that could really appeal to kids. | 0:52:34 | 0:52:36 | |
Money never really was an issue for us, it was really about being famous. | 0:52:36 | 0:52:40 | |
The feeling of fame was our big money. | 0:52:40 | 0:52:43 | |
But their main line back to the kids was their songs | 0:52:43 | 0:52:46 | |
and the '90s boy bands. | 0:52:46 | 0:52:48 | |
# And when you rise in the morning sun | 0:52:48 | 0:52:52 | |
# I feel you touch my hand in the pouring rain... # | 0:52:52 | 0:52:57 | |
The Bee Gees songs had the perfect ingredients for the boy band. | 0:52:57 | 0:53:00 | |
The harmonies and the melancholy, | 0:53:00 | 0:53:03 | |
their longing ballads were perfect for a bit of hormonal adulation. | 0:53:03 | 0:53:06 | |
It's now about the business. We want the song that will launch you. | 0:53:06 | 0:53:11 | |
We want the song that people will buy into, within 30 seconds. | 0:53:11 | 0:53:16 | |
We want to cross generations. We want mass appeal. | 0:53:16 | 0:53:19 | |
Bee Gees has to be in the mix. | 0:53:19 | 0:53:21 | |
# How deep is your love? | 0:53:21 | 0:53:23 | |
# How deep is your love? How deep is your love? # | 0:53:23 | 0:53:27 | |
You pick the right Bee Gees song, you're going to have a hit. | 0:53:27 | 0:53:31 | |
# It's only words | 0:53:31 | 0:53:34 | |
# And words are all I have | 0:53:34 | 0:53:37 | |
# To take your heart away. # | 0:53:37 | 0:53:39 | |
And it wasn't just the ballads that put the Bee Gees | 0:53:39 | 0:53:41 | |
back on Top Of The Pops. | 0:53:41 | 0:53:42 | |
# Tragedy! | 0:53:42 | 0:53:44 | |
# When the feeling's gone and you can't go on | 0:53:44 | 0:53:46 | |
# It's tragedy. # | 0:53:46 | 0:53:47 | |
For Pete Waterman to get Steps to record Tragedy, | 0:53:47 | 0:53:50 | |
a whole new generation love that song. | 0:53:50 | 0:53:54 | |
It was a big hit first time for the Bee Gees, | 0:53:54 | 0:53:56 | |
but it became an even bigger hit second time | 0:53:56 | 0:53:58 | |
and there's few examples where the cover version is a bigger hit | 0:53:58 | 0:54:02 | |
than the original version. | 0:54:02 | 0:54:04 | |
It did nothing for their credibility cos, | 0:54:04 | 0:54:06 | |
to be honest, I mean, that, you know, forgive me, Steps, | 0:54:06 | 0:54:09 | |
but it's a karaoke, wedding, sing-along version. | 0:54:09 | 0:54:13 | |
The Britpop era is the sort of era where people should have gone, | 0:54:13 | 0:54:17 | |
"Bloody hell, have you heard these early Bee Gees?" | 0:54:17 | 0:54:20 | |
They should have been sort of hoisted up as an example | 0:54:20 | 0:54:22 | |
of kind of classic '60s pop music | 0:54:22 | 0:54:24 | |
in a way that all sorts of other things weren't during... | 0:54:24 | 0:54:26 | |
Small Faces or whatever. And they just weren't. | 0:54:26 | 0:54:29 | |
They absolutely weren't and it's because Steps have covered Tragedy | 0:54:29 | 0:54:32 | |
and, you know, it's seen as to do with the naffest of naff pop music. | 0:54:32 | 0:54:37 | |
How much it's just desperately unfair, really. | 0:54:37 | 0:54:40 | |
After the years of ridicule, the Bee Gees were still going strong | 0:54:42 | 0:54:45 | |
and they charted yet again in 2001, but it was to be their last hit. | 0:54:45 | 0:54:50 | |
# I've seen the story | 0:54:51 | 0:54:54 | |
# I've read it over once or twice | 0:54:54 | 0:54:56 | |
# I said that you say | 0:54:56 | 0:54:59 | |
# A little bit of bad advice | 0:54:59 | 0:55:01 | |
# I've been in trouble | 0:55:01 | 0:55:04 | |
# Happened to me all my life. # | 0:55:04 | 0:55:07 | |
In 2003, Maurice died and the brotherhood was torn asunder. | 0:55:07 | 0:55:11 | |
# There's a light | 0:55:11 | 0:55:13 | |
# A certain kind of light | 0:55:15 | 0:55:17 | |
# That never shone on me... # | 0:55:18 | 0:55:20 | |
Maurice dying, that was a real shock to the whole family. | 0:55:22 | 0:55:25 | |
And it took a long time for us to get past that. | 0:55:25 | 0:55:29 | |
After Maurice's death, Barry and Robin really performed together. | 0:55:32 | 0:55:36 | |
And, with Robin's untimely death in 2012, Barry remained alone, | 0:55:36 | 0:55:41 | |
the last brother standing. | 0:55:41 | 0:55:43 | |
I have very vivid dreams of my brothers, you know. | 0:55:44 | 0:55:48 | |
It's like you actually see your brother | 0:55:48 | 0:55:50 | |
and he's talking to you the way he always did. | 0:55:50 | 0:55:53 | |
# You don't know what it's like... # | 0:55:53 | 0:55:56 | |
And you wake up and you think, "God, that was so real." | 0:55:56 | 0:55:58 | |
He wanted to go on stage and I was up for it and that was the dream. | 0:55:58 | 0:56:03 | |
# To love somebody | 0:56:03 | 0:56:05 | |
# To love somebody | 0:56:05 | 0:56:07 | |
# The way I love you. # | 0:56:08 | 0:56:14 | |
# And it's me you need to show | 0:56:16 | 0:56:19 | |
# How deep is your love? | 0:56:19 | 0:56:21 | |
# How deep is your love? How deep is your love? # | 0:56:21 | 0:56:23 | |
The Bee Gees gave us four decades of hits. | 0:56:23 | 0:56:26 | |
They were so much more than cool. | 0:56:26 | 0:56:29 | |
# Cos we're living in a world of fools. # | 0:56:29 | 0:56:32 | |
Songs and melodies that last, | 0:56:32 | 0:56:34 | |
that outlast the genres they were written in, | 0:56:34 | 0:56:37 | |
like disco or R&B or anything, I mean, they are timeless. | 0:56:37 | 0:56:41 | |
They were masters of melancholy | 0:56:41 | 0:56:43 | |
and gave us some of pop's most moving moments. | 0:56:43 | 0:56:46 | |
# I just gotta get a message to you | 0:56:46 | 0:56:50 | |
# Hold on | 0:56:51 | 0:56:54 | |
# Hold on... # | 0:56:54 | 0:56:56 | |
The delivery is so honest and heartbreaking, | 0:56:56 | 0:56:59 | |
you have to be a brick wall not to let that affect you. | 0:56:59 | 0:57:04 | |
# Hold on. # | 0:57:04 | 0:57:07 | |
They were able to connect and speak to you directly in their lyrics | 0:57:07 | 0:57:10 | |
on an emotional level | 0:57:10 | 0:57:11 | |
and that is how I began a relationship with the Bee Gees. | 0:57:11 | 0:57:16 | |
But, at the time, I would never say I was into the Bee Gees | 0:57:16 | 0:57:20 | |
because they were not cool. | 0:57:20 | 0:57:22 | |
# Night fever, night fever | 0:57:22 | 0:57:24 | |
# We know how to do it | 0:57:24 | 0:57:27 | |
# Feel like forever, baby. # | 0:57:27 | 0:57:30 | |
We would put on tracks by the Bee Gees | 0:57:30 | 0:57:33 | |
from Saturday Night Fever | 0:57:33 | 0:57:34 | |
just to see what all the cool people would do. | 0:57:34 | 0:57:36 | |
Would they be horrified or would they dance? | 0:57:36 | 0:57:38 | |
And when I put it on, everyone was horrified | 0:57:38 | 0:57:41 | |
then they all went crazy because they loved it. | 0:57:41 | 0:57:43 | |
It was a guilty pleasure. | 0:57:43 | 0:57:45 | |
# Jive talkin' | 0:57:45 | 0:57:47 | |
# You're tellin' me lies, yeah. # | 0:57:47 | 0:57:49 | |
I think the Bee Gees have always had secret cred. | 0:57:49 | 0:57:52 | |
They've always been one of those bands it's not, like, cool | 0:57:52 | 0:57:55 | |
to be like, "Yeah, Bee Gees, man, that's my jam!" | 0:57:55 | 0:57:59 | |
But they have a massive respect. | 0:57:59 | 0:58:01 | |
# Just isn't a crime | 0:58:01 | 0:58:03 | |
# And if there's somebody | 0:58:03 | 0:58:05 | |
# You'll love till you die. # | 0:58:05 | 0:58:07 | |
It's genius. It's proper genius. | 0:58:07 | 0:58:09 | |
It's being one of the greatest song-writing teams ever. | 0:58:09 | 0:58:13 | |
SONG: Stayin' Alive | 0:58:19 | 0:58:20 | |
And their legacy lives on. | 0:58:20 | 0:58:23 | |
I really can't imagine doing anything else with my life, you know. | 0:58:23 | 0:58:27 | |
Some of the greatest moments for me are on a stage | 0:58:27 | 0:58:31 | |
and I still have that hunger so... But I'll always see my brothers. | 0:58:31 | 0:58:35 | |
They'll always be with me. But I've still got to do it. | 0:58:35 | 0:58:38 | |
I've still got to do it. | 0:58:38 | 0:58:39 | |
# Not goin' nowhere | 0:58:39 | 0:58:41 | |
# Somebody help me | 0:58:41 | 0:58:44 | |
# Somebody help me, yeah | 0:58:44 | 0:58:46 | |
# Not goin' nowhere | 0:58:50 | 0:58:52 | |
# Stayin' ali-ive. # | 0:58:53 | 0:59:01 |