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SCREAMING AND CHEERING | 0:00:02 | 0:00:03 | |
1975. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:08 | |
The UK's biggest chart sensation are on the brink of superstardom. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:16 | |
Five lads from Edinburgh with a look and sound unlike any other | 0:00:19 | 0:00:23 | |
are about to become the biggest thing since the Beatles. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:26 | |
This is the tale of the world's first international boyband, | 0:00:31 | 0:00:35 | |
and how they turned the whole world tartan. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:38 | |
CHANTING: We want the Rollers! We want the Rollers! | 0:00:38 | 0:00:42 | |
They're the most beautiful human beings in the world! | 0:00:42 | 0:00:45 | |
Edinburgh, 1966. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:58 | |
Two brothers, Alan and Derek Longmuir, | 0:01:00 | 0:01:02 | |
form a band with their schoolmates. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:04 | |
Well, the line-up in the Saxons was myself, my brother... | 0:01:04 | 0:01:08 | |
I was on the drums and my brother was on bass guitar. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:11 | |
..and my cousin Neil. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:13 | |
And that really was the birth of the Saxons. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:15 | |
A guy called Nobby Clark, he was in Derek's class at school. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:23 | |
And then we had a guy called Dave Pettigrew, | 0:01:23 | 0:01:26 | |
who we used to call Dave the Rave. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:27 | |
We were playing Tamla Motown, we were playing Beatles stuff, | 0:01:29 | 0:01:33 | |
Rolling Stones stuff. You had to keep the people happy, you know? | 0:01:33 | 0:01:37 | |
The Saxons were soon filling church halls throughout Edinburgh | 0:01:39 | 0:01:43 | |
playing covers of up-tempo pop. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:45 | |
# Oh, hey | 0:01:45 | 0:01:47 | |
# I'm sick and tired of everybody just pushing us around... # | 0:01:47 | 0:01:50 | |
The Saxons just sounded a bit bland. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:53 | |
We kind of wanted an American-sounding name. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:55 | |
And there was a band called Mitch Ryder and the Detroit Wheels, | 0:01:55 | 0:01:58 | |
so we said, "Something rolling," | 0:01:58 | 0:02:00 | |
and that's where we got "Rollers" - great. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:03 | |
So we thought, let's look at the map of America | 0:02:03 | 0:02:05 | |
and see if there's any places that will give us some inspiration. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:08 | |
So we eventually just shut our eyes and stuck the pin in the map! | 0:02:08 | 0:02:11 | |
It went into Bay City, and we thought, | 0:02:11 | 0:02:13 | |
"Bay City Rollers, that's quite a good name." | 0:02:13 | 0:02:15 | |
That's how it happened. Easy as that, you know? | 0:02:15 | 0:02:17 | |
By the end of the '60s | 0:02:20 | 0:02:21 | |
the Rollers were building a loyal following in the Edinburgh area. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:25 | |
I used to remember as a kid coming through to Edinburgh, | 0:02:25 | 0:02:28 | |
you'd see the initials BCR | 0:02:28 | 0:02:29 | |
sprayed on walls in Edinburgh, and I just thought they were a gang. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:33 | |
I thought, to begin with, BCR was a gang. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:36 | |
We had a big following. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:39 | |
We used to get busloads following us up to Aberdeen and places like that. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:43 | |
It was just about being successful. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:44 | |
Our aim was to be like the Beatles, basically. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:47 | |
It wasn't long before they found their very own Brian Epstein - | 0:02:47 | 0:02:51 | |
local pop promoter and son of a potato salesman Tam Paton. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:55 | |
I went down to see them, | 0:02:55 | 0:02:57 | |
and I really fancy managing them, you know? | 0:02:57 | 0:02:59 | |
I think, I'd like to get involved, you know, | 0:02:59 | 0:03:02 | |
they're young and they're enthusiastic. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:04 | |
Tam was very controlling, you know, | 0:03:04 | 0:03:06 | |
everybody had to do what they were told, basically, and that was it. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:10 | |
And he was quite an intimidating character as well, | 0:03:10 | 0:03:12 | |
so you weren't going to go up against him, that's for sure! | 0:03:12 | 0:03:15 | |
Tam gave us work down at the Borders, likes of Kelso and Selkirk | 0:03:16 | 0:03:20 | |
and Coldstream and all those places. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:22 | |
So we were constantly playing gigs all the time. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:24 | |
By 1971, Tam had also landed the Bay City Rollers | 0:03:27 | 0:03:31 | |
a deal with Bell Records. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:33 | |
Keep On Dancing was the one that was going to happen. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:37 | |
# Shake it, shake it, baby... # | 0:03:37 | 0:03:39 | |
By the end of the year, Keep On Dancing had crept up the charts | 0:03:39 | 0:03:43 | |
to reach number nine. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:44 | |
It was brilliant, it was unbelievable. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:49 | |
We were just young guys - I was a plumber out of trade | 0:03:49 | 0:03:52 | |
and my brother was a joiner, Nobby was a joiner. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:54 | |
We used to rehearse in | 0:03:54 | 0:03:55 | |
what we called the "tattie shed" - potato shed. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:58 | |
But their two subsequent singles failed to chart. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:03 | |
Despite Tam making changes to the line-up and their look, | 0:04:03 | 0:04:08 | |
by the end of 1972, the Rollers | 0:04:08 | 0:04:10 | |
are starting to look like a one-hit wonder. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:13 | |
# Manana | 0:04:13 | 0:04:15 | |
# Mana-na-na-na-na-na-na... # | 0:04:15 | 0:04:18 | |
In London, Bell Records enlist a new writing and producing team | 0:04:18 | 0:04:22 | |
to work with the band. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:23 | |
# Manana, manana... # | 0:04:23 | 0:04:26 | |
I can remember meeting the Bay City Rollers, | 0:04:26 | 0:04:28 | |
and there was this unshakeable belief | 0:04:28 | 0:04:31 | |
amongst these kids, who were then 18, 19, | 0:04:31 | 0:04:35 | |
unshakeable belief that it was only a matter of time | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
before they were going to be stars. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:40 | |
Phil Coulter and Bill Martin had written and produced | 0:04:41 | 0:04:44 | |
Britain's first Eurovision win | 0:04:44 | 0:04:46 | |
in 1967 for Sandie Shaw. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:48 | |
# ..gladly be there | 0:04:48 | 0:04:51 | |
# Like a puppet on a string... # | 0:04:51 | 0:04:54 | |
I was always looking for a Scottish band. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:57 | |
And I thought they were quite special. | 0:04:57 | 0:05:00 | |
Quite different from any other pop group. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
The first hurdle was when we got the Bay City Rollers into the studio | 0:05:03 | 0:05:06 | |
and I discovered they could | 0:05:06 | 0:05:07 | |
barely tune their guitars. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:09 | |
The reality was that in order for me to try and come up with hit records, | 0:05:09 | 0:05:13 | |
er, in a concentrated period of time, | 0:05:13 | 0:05:16 | |
I figured my only chance of doing this | 0:05:16 | 0:05:19 | |
is to use session players to lay the tracks. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:22 | |
And of course the Rollers didn't want that, | 0:05:22 | 0:05:24 | |
they wanted to play on it. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:25 | |
I mean, they'd be better blowing their nose. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:28 | |
Because it was... The weren't good musicians. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:31 | |
I couldn't say to Dick Leahy, | 0:05:31 | 0:05:33 | |
"It's going to take me six months to get something out of these guys." | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
I mean, you were getting a shot. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:38 | |
MUSIC: Remember (Sha La La) by the Bay City Rollers | 0:05:38 | 0:05:41 | |
Hiring session musicians to keep studio time to a minimum, | 0:05:44 | 0:05:48 | |
Phil and Bill get to work creating a new sound for the Rollers. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:51 | |
# ..Sha la la loo | 0:05:53 | 0:05:55 | |
# I used to sing to you | 0:05:55 | 0:05:56 | |
# Remember... # | 0:05:56 | 0:05:59 | |
It's easy to write a song. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:01 | |
Writing a hit song is difficult. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:04 | |
Getting people to remember it forever is the hardest thing. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:07 | |
# ..Then we said goodbye Made each other cry | 0:06:07 | 0:06:10 | |
# Remember... # | 0:06:10 | 0:06:12 | |
Remember. Sha La La, in brackets. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:15 | |
We weren't trying to do Bohemian Rhapsody and all this. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:18 | |
We knew it wasn't right. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:20 | |
It was pure unadulterated pop. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
And the process for writing the song | 0:06:23 | 0:06:27 | |
was very much built around, er... | 0:06:27 | 0:06:30 | |
the sound of the track. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:33 | |
# Sha la la la la la loo... # That was it. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:36 | |
We were good at doo-bee-doo-bops, you know. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:39 | |
# The singer sang a song We used to sing along... # | 0:06:39 | 0:06:42 | |
But in 1973, with the new sound ready to go, | 0:06:42 | 0:06:45 | |
lead singer Nobby Clark quits, | 0:06:45 | 0:06:48 | |
forcing Tam to make further changes to the line-up of the band. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:52 | |
One night in 1973, Tam Paton said | 0:06:52 | 0:06:56 | |
that they need a singer for their band, | 0:06:56 | 0:06:58 | |
the Bay City Rollers. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:00 | |
I said, "Why's that?" He said, "Cos their other singer's left." | 0:07:00 | 0:07:03 | |
He had seen Les perform with another band. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:06 | |
He was quite keen to get him onto our band, | 0:07:06 | 0:07:08 | |
but Tam would always kind of manipulate things around | 0:07:08 | 0:07:10 | |
and change things around. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:11 | |
He said, "It's a professional outfit, they've got their own gear, | 0:07:11 | 0:07:14 | |
"they've got their own pay, they've got their own roadie. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:17 | |
"They've got loads of gigs." | 0:07:17 | 0:07:18 | |
"They're offering you £10 a week" - | 0:07:18 | 0:07:20 | |
you know, "How can you say no?" | 0:07:20 | 0:07:23 | |
So that's what made me decide to go with them. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:26 | |
And he was a great signing, actually. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:28 | |
He transformed the whole situation. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:30 | |
Joining the Longmuir brothers and guitarist Eric Faulkner | 0:07:32 | 0:07:35 | |
was another new face - 16-year-old Stuart Wood. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:39 | |
I was gobsmacked. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:41 | |
"What? Join the Rollers? What?" | 0:07:41 | 0:07:43 | |
Cos I'd only been playing guitar a year and a bit, | 0:07:43 | 0:07:47 | |
and, you know, probably knew about five, six chords. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:50 | |
GUITAR CHORD INTRO TO SHANG-A-LANG | 0:07:50 | 0:07:52 | |
With the classic line-up in place, | 0:07:55 | 0:07:57 | |
Les was brought in to learn the songs and re-record the vocals. | 0:07:57 | 0:08:01 | |
They would get me up to their house | 0:08:03 | 0:08:04 | |
and play it on the piano, find the right key for me, you know. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:08 | |
Get me through the songs. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:10 | |
Shang-A-Lang was my favourite. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:12 | |
De-dink-de-dink-de-dink Bud-da-dink-de-dink-de-dink... | 0:08:12 | 0:08:15 | |
And a dug, a dug and a cat, | 0:08:15 | 0:08:17 | |
a cat and a dug, a dug and a cat... | 0:08:17 | 0:08:19 | |
Just throbbing like that. Very powerful. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:22 | |
"Do you know what I mean, Les? It's a ba-dum-ba-dah..." | 0:08:22 | 0:08:25 | |
What's that in claps, you know? | 0:08:25 | 0:08:27 | |
We had two boards with handles on it, | 0:08:27 | 0:08:30 | |
and we used to use it as a clapper. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:32 | |
And it made a tremendous noise. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:35 | |
No-one had it. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:36 | |
# Hey, hey, rockin' to the music | 0:08:36 | 0:08:39 | |
# Hey, hey, rockin' to the music | 0:08:40 | 0:08:42 | |
# Rockin' every night and day | 0:08:43 | 0:08:46 | |
# Hey! # | 0:08:46 | 0:08:48 | |
My mother, if I swore, she would hit me. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:51 | |
We weren't allowed to swear. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:53 | |
And I'd go, "Oh, shang..." - used to always say "shang-a-lang". | 0:08:53 | 0:08:57 | |
And my mother said, "What's that?" "It's something I just say." | 0:08:57 | 0:09:01 | |
To stop me swearing. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:03 | |
And, er... | 0:09:03 | 0:09:05 | |
Phil said, "We should use that, that's good." | 0:09:05 | 0:09:08 | |
"We sang shang-a-lang and we ran with the gang, | 0:09:08 | 0:09:10 | |
"doin' doo wop be dooby do ay." | 0:09:10 | 0:09:12 | |
There was lots of gangs in Govan, Glasgow, you know, lots of gangs. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:16 | |
Razor gangs and what have you. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:18 | |
And then Blue Suede Shoes is in there. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:21 | |
I mean, that's pure. That's pure '50s. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:24 | |
It's all mixed in like a pop puree, or whatever it is. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:28 | |
# Well we sang shang-a-lang and we ran with the gang | 0:09:28 | 0:09:32 | |
# Doin' doo wop be dooby do ay | 0:09:32 | 0:09:36 | |
# We were all in the news with our blue suede shoes | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
# And our dancin' the night away... # | 0:09:39 | 0:09:41 | |
"I sang shang-a-lang when I ran with the gang" - | 0:09:41 | 0:09:45 | |
you know, they weren't running with their school rugby team, | 0:09:45 | 0:09:48 | |
they were running with a gang. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:49 | |
And the gang they were referring to | 0:09:49 | 0:09:51 | |
was the gangs of their neighbourhoods, | 0:09:51 | 0:09:53 | |
the gangs of industrial working-class Scotland, | 0:09:53 | 0:09:55 | |
and the gangs of the late '60s, early '70s. | 0:09:55 | 0:09:58 | |
It's actually quite a powerful song. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:00 | |
# Shang-a-lang Shang-a-lang... # | 0:10:00 | 0:10:04 | |
I mean, Shang-A-Lang by the Bay City Rollers | 0:10:04 | 0:10:06 | |
should be the national anthem of Scotland! | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
Better than that dirge Flower Of Scotland, that's a load of rubbish! | 0:10:09 | 0:10:14 | |
# And we sang shang-a-lang as we rang with the gang... # | 0:10:14 | 0:10:17 | |
Released in 1974, Shang-A-Lang reached number two in the charts. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:23 | |
It was phenomenal. They just took off like a rocket. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:26 | |
#...music like ours couldn't die. # | 0:10:26 | 0:10:28 | |
Determined to capitalise on their chart success, | 0:10:28 | 0:10:31 | |
Tam booked the Rollers on a major UK tour. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:34 | |
There were starting to play in places in England, | 0:10:34 | 0:10:36 | |
the band was building up this big following, | 0:10:36 | 0:10:38 | |
more and more and more and more. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:40 | |
It was so exciting to, you know, finally be up on stage. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:43 | |
All I had to do was remember a few chords and kind of go for it | 0:10:43 | 0:10:47 | |
and do my thing, and that's exactly what happened! | 0:10:47 | 0:10:51 | |
# With the juke box playing and everybody saying | 0:10:51 | 0:10:54 | |
# That music like ours couldn't die. # | 0:10:54 | 0:10:57 | |
The Rollers' present publicity was masterminded by Tam | 0:10:57 | 0:11:00 | |
from his parents' house in a small town just outside of Edinburgh. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:05 | |
'To every Roller fan, this is Mecca. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:08 | |
'The Prestonpans council house of Tam Paton's mum and dad | 0:11:08 | 0:11:11 | |
'is the headquarters of the Bay City Rollers' fan club.' | 0:11:11 | 0:11:14 | |
Well, when they started first, we didn't think anything about it, | 0:11:14 | 0:11:17 | |
because we didn't think anything was really going to come of it. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:20 | |
And then they started coming more and more | 0:11:20 | 0:11:23 | |
and I had to just dig in and get into it, and that's how it started. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:27 | |
I've done it ever since. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:29 | |
I liked the Rollers and started speaking to Mrs Paton | 0:11:29 | 0:11:32 | |
and she just asked if I'd like to help, so... | 0:11:32 | 0:11:35 | |
Oh, it's pandemonium. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:37 | |
But it's lovely pandemonium. HE LAUGHS | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
Then Tam decided to do this kind of mailing thing | 0:11:40 | 0:11:42 | |
where he would mail all the David Cassidy fans, | 0:11:42 | 0:11:44 | |
and the band just kind of grew from there - | 0:11:44 | 0:11:46 | |
and that's when it really took off, big-time. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:49 | |
As the British Isles suffered industrial decline | 0:11:53 | 0:11:56 | |
and was rocked by sectarian violence, | 0:11:56 | 0:11:58 | |
by 1974, the Bay City Rollers got bigger and bigger. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:02 | |
SHOUTING | 0:12:05 | 0:12:06 | |
From not having any people screaming at you | 0:12:07 | 0:12:09 | |
to having thousands screaming at you, | 0:12:09 | 0:12:10 | |
it was pretty quick, you know. The space of six months. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:15 | |
SCREAMING | 0:12:15 | 0:12:17 | |
I always remember Liverpool, there was a crowd outside the Empire, | 0:12:17 | 0:12:20 | |
and there was the mirrors on the wall, | 0:12:20 | 0:12:22 | |
and we were all changing and they must've seen up through the window | 0:12:22 | 0:12:25 | |
and those mirrors... We had nothing on and they're all screaming! | 0:12:25 | 0:12:30 | |
I never realised they were watching through the mirror. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:35 | |
SCREAMING | 0:12:35 | 0:12:37 | |
The noise was colossal. And that's what they created. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:46 | |
They were a sensation. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:48 | |
Why do you scream at these concerts? | 0:12:48 | 0:12:50 | |
Well, during the year we see pictures of them | 0:12:50 | 0:12:53 | |
and receive letters off them and it's all building up inside you | 0:12:53 | 0:12:56 | |
and when you see them on stage, you just scream. | 0:12:56 | 0:12:59 | |
SCREAMING | 0:12:59 | 0:13:02 | |
As you can tell... | 0:13:02 | 0:13:03 | |
I love you too! | 0:13:03 | 0:13:06 | |
By midsummer, even The Osmonds were being drowned out by Roller fans. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:10 | |
SCREAMING | 0:13:10 | 0:13:11 | |
-And here they are with Summer Love Sensation! -Whoo! | 0:13:11 | 0:13:14 | |
SCREAMING | 0:13:19 | 0:13:21 | |
# Summer sun's sitting high in the sky | 0:13:31 | 0:13:34 | |
# And the love that's in everyone's eye | 0:13:34 | 0:13:38 | |
# Now the waiting, the anticipating is over, over, over, over. # | 0:13:38 | 0:13:46 | |
Record executives had believed comfortably for years beforehand | 0:13:46 | 0:13:50 | |
that kids buying records were like, 16, 17, 18, 19. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:54 | |
Then it dawned on them, finally, that the kids buying records | 0:13:56 | 0:14:01 | |
were seven, eight, nine and ten! | 0:14:01 | 0:14:03 | |
This was a whole new thing. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:05 | |
And that was the gap in the market. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:07 | |
The group that actually says, "Do you know what? | 0:14:07 | 0:14:09 | |
"Singles should be two and a half minutes. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:11 | |
"A single should have a hook and a chorus. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:13 | |
"You should be able to hum along to it. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:15 | |
"You should feel that you're tapping your feet." | 0:14:15 | 0:14:18 | |
All the things that the great pop music from the '60s told us. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:21 | |
And the Bay City Rollers delivered great pop songs. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:25 | |
# ..summer love sensation. # | 0:14:25 | 0:14:29 | |
At the end of 1974, their debut album, Rolling, was at number one. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:36 | |
But the Rollers were not happy. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:40 | |
There was a growing resentment, I suppose, | 0:14:42 | 0:14:46 | |
that they weren't more hands-on. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:48 | |
And we began to get a sense with that, that they... | 0:14:48 | 0:14:51 | |
they wanted to write their own hits. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:53 | |
They wanted to play their own tracks. | 0:14:55 | 0:14:58 | |
I think because we were not allowed to be doing our own, | 0:14:58 | 0:15:01 | |
some of our own songs and, you know, doing our own... | 0:15:01 | 0:15:04 | |
Playing on the records and stuff, it was just, you know, | 0:15:04 | 0:15:07 | |
that was really getting a bit too much. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:08 | |
I remember saying there was no way, | 0:15:08 | 0:15:11 | |
there was no way that the Bay City Rollers can sit in on the mixes. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:16 | |
There is no way that they can write their hits because, why? | 0:15:16 | 0:15:21 | |
Simple thing, they're not capable. It's not what they do. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:24 | |
And the Rollers came to me and said, | 0:15:24 | 0:15:26 | |
"Look, we're not going in the studio with these guys again. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:29 | |
"We want a different producer." | 0:15:29 | 0:15:30 | |
Stung by jibes that they hadn't played on the records, | 0:15:32 | 0:15:35 | |
the Rollers were keen to prove themselves in the studio. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:38 | |
I didn't want to stop momentum. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:41 | |
I didn't want to have a year in the courts trying to work out | 0:15:41 | 0:15:44 | |
who was doing what to who, you know, | 0:15:44 | 0:15:46 | |
while we had the opportunity to sell records. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:50 | |
Bill and Phil were paid off and new producer Phil Wainman | 0:15:50 | 0:15:53 | |
was given the job of keeping the hits coming. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:56 | |
My brief was that they've actually got to be playing | 0:15:56 | 0:16:00 | |
so they had to play and they had to sing and, I mean... | 0:16:00 | 0:16:04 | |
and that was quite a task. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:07 | |
MUSIC: The Disco Kid by Bay City Rollers | 0:16:07 | 0:16:10 | |
We spent three weeks, four weeks in the studio | 0:16:10 | 0:16:13 | |
and that was wonderful, you know, | 0:16:13 | 0:16:15 | |
because we were actually doing everything ourselves. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:18 | |
It was Tam who said, "What do you think of, you know, Bye Bye Baby? | 0:16:22 | 0:16:25 | |
"Let me play it for you." Well, I actually knew the song | 0:16:25 | 0:16:28 | |
but getting the Bay City Rollers to duplicate that was not easy, | 0:16:28 | 0:16:35 | |
and I said, "This is going to give us a real problem | 0:16:35 | 0:16:39 | |
"because we could spend a month just on the vocals." | 0:16:39 | 0:16:44 | |
MUSIC: Bye Bye Baby by Bay City Rollers | 0:16:44 | 0:16:47 | |
I remember being in the studio, | 0:16:47 | 0:16:49 | |
there's sort of four of us singing in a circle, | 0:16:49 | 0:16:51 | |
getting these harmonies, | 0:16:51 | 0:16:53 | |
and the producer's saying move back a bit, you're too loud | 0:16:53 | 0:16:56 | |
and you move in a wee bit to get the balance kind of right. | 0:16:56 | 0:16:59 | |
And it took us forever to get these harmonies. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:02 | |
# Bye-bye, baby | 0:17:02 | 0:17:04 | |
-# Baby, goodbye -Bye, baby | 0:17:04 | 0:17:07 | |
# Baby, bye-bye... # | 0:17:07 | 0:17:09 | |
I was going for the throat, I was actually going for the record sales, | 0:17:09 | 0:17:12 | |
give the public what they want. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:14 | |
He was a brilliant producer because he saw the vibe | 0:17:14 | 0:17:18 | |
and the energy that we could produce, | 0:17:18 | 0:17:21 | |
that's what he focused on and he got that out of us and it worked. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:26 | |
# I wish it could be... # | 0:17:26 | 0:17:31 | |
'I think when you're recording it you kind of get an idea' | 0:17:31 | 0:17:35 | |
that, you know, this one really sounds good | 0:17:35 | 0:17:39 | |
where the other ones, they might be OK to do | 0:17:39 | 0:17:42 | |
but this sounds like it could be in the charts. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:44 | |
# Bye, bye, baby | 0:17:44 | 0:17:45 | |
-# Baby, goodbye -Bye, baby... # | 0:17:45 | 0:17:48 | |
'When I mixed that and Give A Little Love back-to-back, | 0:17:48 | 0:17:52 | |
'I called the record company and said,' | 0:17:52 | 0:17:55 | |
"Not only do I think I've got you a number one, | 0:17:55 | 0:17:58 | |
"I actually think I've got you a follow-up number one | 0:17:58 | 0:18:00 | |
"so I think I've got two number ones back-to-back." | 0:18:00 | 0:18:03 | |
# Baby, bye, bye | 0:18:03 | 0:18:05 | |
# Bye, bye, baby | 0:18:05 | 0:18:07 | |
# Don't make me cry... # | 0:18:07 | 0:18:09 | |
Released in March 1975, | 0:18:09 | 0:18:11 | |
the Rollers' cover of Bye Bye Baby went to number one | 0:18:11 | 0:18:14 | |
where it stayed for six long weeks. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:18 | |
You know the figures that were coming in, 75,000 a day, | 0:18:18 | 0:18:22 | |
I mean, artists don't sell that... | 0:18:22 | 0:18:26 | |
you know, in a month. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:28 | |
I mean, you can have a hit with 20,000 records now. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:33 | |
A hit... | 0:18:33 | 0:18:35 | |
you know, and we were doing that in a day. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:37 | |
MUSIC: Give A Little Love by Bay City Rollers | 0:18:37 | 0:18:41 | |
Just as Phil predicted, | 0:18:41 | 0:18:42 | |
the follow-up, Give A Little Love, also went to the top of the charts. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:47 | |
I was invited to EMI's factory and they said, | 0:18:47 | 0:18:51 | |
"Do you see this wall of records?" | 0:18:51 | 0:18:53 | |
Now, this wall of records was probably about 50 metres long | 0:18:53 | 0:18:59 | |
and about... | 0:18:59 | 0:19:01 | |
maybe four metres high. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:03 | |
And he said, "There's a half a million albums here | 0:19:04 | 0:19:09 | |
"and they're all yours and they will all be shipped by Friday." | 0:19:09 | 0:19:13 | |
And my jaw was on the floor because you think, | 0:19:13 | 0:19:18 | |
"My word, that's an awful lot of albums to ship." | 0:19:18 | 0:19:23 | |
# Give a little love... # | 0:19:23 | 0:19:25 | |
With half the tracks penned by the band, | 0:19:25 | 0:19:28 | |
Once Upon A Star went platinum in the UK. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:31 | |
# And when the sun comes shining through... # | 0:19:31 | 0:19:35 | |
At the start of 1975, | 0:19:35 | 0:19:38 | |
the Rollers were the biggest selling act in the British Isles | 0:19:38 | 0:19:41 | |
with a look unlike any other. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:44 | |
Hold it there a minute. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:46 | |
Can we redo it again from the top? | 0:19:46 | 0:19:48 | |
MUSIC: Love Me Like I Love You by Bay City Rollers | 0:19:48 | 0:19:53 | |
The iconic look that I'm wearing at the moment didn't really happen | 0:19:58 | 0:20:02 | |
until album number three, Wouldn't You Like It. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:05 | |
A lot of people claim responsibility for this kind of look - | 0:20:06 | 0:20:10 | |
it actually was drawn by fans. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:13 | |
It was a girl from Liverpool, she sent a drawing up | 0:20:13 | 0:20:18 | |
with a bomber jacket and checks and Eric said that'd be great in tartan. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:22 | |
As fans copied the look of the band with home-made Roller gear... | 0:20:26 | 0:20:31 | |
throughout the summer of '75, | 0:20:31 | 0:20:32 | |
they could also tune into the Rollers' very own weekly TV show. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:36 | |
MUSIC: Shang-A-Lang by Bay City Rollers | 0:20:36 | 0:20:40 | |
It was great. We loved doing that. I couldn't believe it. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:43 | |
Few years prior to that, we were just hoping to be in the charts | 0:20:43 | 0:20:48 | |
and then now it was a year later, wasn't even a year... | 0:20:48 | 0:20:52 | |
and we've got our own TV show. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:54 | |
# With the jukebox playing and everybody saying that | 0:20:54 | 0:20:58 | |
# Music like ours couldn't die | 0:20:58 | 0:21:01 | |
# Yeah, we sang shang-a-lang... # | 0:21:01 | 0:21:04 | |
SCREAMING | 0:21:04 | 0:21:06 | |
When I joined the band, they were doing the Mecca circuit, | 0:21:08 | 0:21:12 | |
there was a lot of clubs like that. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:14 | |
That would've been 16, 17, 18-year-olds | 0:21:16 | 0:21:20 | |
that were following the band then and as we became more popular, | 0:21:20 | 0:21:25 | |
the age was getting younger and younger. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:27 | |
# Show me how you work | 0:21:27 | 0:21:29 | |
-# Now you're in motion -Keep on dancin' and a-prancin' | 0:21:30 | 0:21:33 | |
# Do the locomotion... # | 0:21:33 | 0:21:34 | |
Rollermania was an official teen sensation. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:38 | |
Do you know that there's only ever been two manias | 0:21:38 | 0:21:40 | |
ever in the history of the music business? | 0:21:40 | 0:21:42 | |
There's Beatlemania and Rollermania. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:45 | |
Now, that's something. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:46 | |
I can't believe it, we've got a mania! | 0:21:46 | 0:21:49 | |
We've got a mania! | 0:21:51 | 0:21:53 | |
I don't think you could comprehend the dress sense | 0:21:53 | 0:21:58 | |
of the people under 14 in Birmingham, Grimsby, Aberdeen, Dundee | 0:21:58 | 0:22:05 | |
all walking about like little Rollers. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:07 | |
CHEERING AND SCREAMING | 0:22:07 | 0:22:09 | |
In 1975, the Rollers undertook their biggest UK tour to date. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:17 | |
CHEERING AND SCREAMING | 0:22:17 | 0:22:21 | |
God, that was a crazy tour. It was absolutely mental. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:26 | |
There was mass hysteria as well, | 0:22:31 | 0:22:33 | |
so it was a problem getting in and out of the venues as well. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:36 | |
When you first got started, | 0:22:40 | 0:22:42 | |
did you ever think that what is happening outside now | 0:22:42 | 0:22:45 | |
would be part of you? | 0:22:45 | 0:22:47 | |
Yeah, we did actually. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:49 | |
-This is what we wanted. -Really? -This is what we wanted, yeah. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:53 | |
We would go on and the police would just make us stop it | 0:22:53 | 0:22:56 | |
because they just couldn't control the crowd. | 0:22:56 | 0:23:00 | |
REPORTER: As soon as the Bay City Rollers appeared, | 0:23:00 | 0:23:02 | |
fans tried to rush the stage. | 0:23:02 | 0:23:04 | |
Policewomen had to be rescued from the crush | 0:23:04 | 0:23:07 | |
and the show was stopped twice so that fans could cool down. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:10 | |
I remember watching out when we were playing on stage | 0:23:15 | 0:23:18 | |
and there was a balcony that was actually going like this | 0:23:18 | 0:23:21 | |
and one girl jumped over the top and we had to stop the show. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:23 | |
And people were fainting everywhere, | 0:23:23 | 0:23:25 | |
the St John ambulances were full up. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:28 | |
MUSIC: All Of Me Loves All Of You by Bay City Rollers | 0:23:28 | 0:23:31 | |
We'd come off the stage, right in the van and away | 0:23:35 | 0:23:37 | |
before people had the chance to get out of the concert hall, | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
otherwise it'd just be bedlam. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:41 | |
The streets were covered in kids all fainting and crying. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:50 | |
It became a way of life, the whole thing. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:56 | |
That, for me, that was, "This is now my life. This is who I am." | 0:23:56 | 0:24:01 | |
Some places we were playing two times in one day - | 0:24:01 | 0:24:05 | |
and one time in Ireland, three times in one day | 0:24:05 | 0:24:07 | |
and from that point on, it was... | 0:24:07 | 0:24:10 | |
there was no time off, really. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:12 | |
We were kind of on the road for three years, almost. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:15 | |
I think my mum recalled I was home six times in that whole period. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:22 | |
The strain of nonstop touring was compounded | 0:24:27 | 0:24:30 | |
when Les was involved in a fatal traffic accident. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:33 | |
RADIO: The news that we promised you about the Bay City Rollers | 0:24:33 | 0:24:36 | |
which has just come in is that their concert in Colston Hall, Bristol, | 0:24:36 | 0:24:39 | |
tonight has had to be cancelled... | 0:24:39 | 0:24:41 | |
Oh, no! | 0:24:41 | 0:24:43 | |
Les McKeown has been involved in an accident. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:45 | |
I understand the accident took place just outside Edinburgh... | 0:24:45 | 0:24:49 | |
On a rare visit home, Les ran over and killed a 76-year-old woman. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:58 | |
Les McKeown has been involved in an accident. The accident... | 0:25:02 | 0:25:05 | |
GIRLS GASP AND SCREAM | 0:25:05 | 0:25:07 | |
Now, wait a minute. | 0:25:07 | 0:25:08 | |
The accident took place in Edinburgh | 0:25:08 | 0:25:11 | |
and Les is UNINJURED | 0:25:11 | 0:25:14 | |
but he's very, very shaken | 0:25:14 | 0:25:16 | |
and obviously can't take place in tonight's concert. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:21 | |
It was one of the rare occasions a Rollers gig was cancelled. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:26 | |
At the time I can remember... | 0:25:30 | 0:25:33 | |
..just being in complete shock | 0:25:34 | 0:25:37 | |
and I don't know how long it took me to come out of that shock. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:41 | |
In retrospect, | 0:25:41 | 0:25:42 | |
they should've dealt with the issue in a much more comprehensive way. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:47 | |
I wasn't afforded that privilege. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:50 | |
The day after the accident, Les rejoined the tour. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:55 | |
Whether it was the management that had that attitude... | 0:25:55 | 0:25:58 | |
but the show was definitely going on. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:00 | |
A couple of nights later, we had to do a gig. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:02 | |
MUSIC: La Belle Jeane by Bay City Rollers | 0:26:02 | 0:26:06 | |
So we were doing a gig | 0:26:08 | 0:26:10 | |
and Les had to leave the stage cos he was just breaking down. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:13 | |
It's a whole bunch of things. I mean, it's pent up... | 0:26:17 | 0:26:22 | |
some kind of anger and just lots of emotional stuff, | 0:26:22 | 0:26:26 | |
when you're that age it's difficult to even know what those things are. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:31 | |
By rights he should've never been up on that stage, he should've been... | 0:26:31 | 0:26:35 | |
Somebody should've given a shit, basically. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:38 | |
But the Rollers' management were already planning the next stage | 0:26:42 | 0:26:45 | |
of the band's career. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:46 | |
MUSIC: Let's Go by Bay City Rollers | 0:26:46 | 0:26:49 | |
You hadn't really made it unless you'd made it in America. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:55 | |
That was really what I wanted to do, was to take the acts | 0:26:57 | 0:27:00 | |
that we had in the UK and break them in the States. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:03 | |
# I know, you and I together make it so right... # | 0:27:03 | 0:27:09 | |
Legendary record company exec Clive Davis had just acquired | 0:27:10 | 0:27:14 | |
the Rollers for his brand-new label, Arista. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:17 | |
I was doing some consulting work for Arista Records. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:24 | |
The question I was asked is, | 0:27:24 | 0:27:26 | |
do you think there's anything you can do with them here? | 0:27:26 | 0:27:30 | |
And my resounding answer was, "Yeah! Yes, for sure." | 0:27:30 | 0:27:36 | |
The people at Arista were our friends, | 0:27:36 | 0:27:39 | |
we'd read the British press, we knew they were happening. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:41 | |
I put together a press junket | 0:27:41 | 0:27:44 | |
and invited Danny Fields who was the editor of 16 Magazine. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:49 | |
We invited ourselves, you know, | 0:27:49 | 0:27:52 | |
I had the most powerful teenage magazine in America. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:57 | |
We said to Arista, "We should go and see them, fly us over." | 0:27:57 | 0:28:01 | |
And our first stop was Glasgow. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:03 | |
MUSIC: Jenny Gotta Dance by Bay City Rollers | 0:28:03 | 0:28:07 | |
# Looks like an angel | 0:28:13 | 0:28:15 | |
# Dances like a devil | 0:28:15 | 0:28:18 | |
# Jenny... # | 0:28:18 | 0:28:20 | |
'It was just crazy, you know, police and girls and, you know, | 0:28:21 | 0:28:27 | |
'12-year-olds, 14-year-olds,' | 0:28:27 | 0:28:30 | |
all dressed up in Roller garb | 0:28:30 | 0:28:33 | |
with that look in their eye of, like, of love, | 0:28:33 | 0:28:38 | |
just like young love personified. | 0:28:38 | 0:28:41 | |
# Dressed in jeans and a too-tight T-shirt | 0:28:41 | 0:28:44 | |
# Jenny | 0:28:44 | 0:28:46 | |
# You better watch out, baby you might be hurt | 0:28:46 | 0:28:49 | |
# Jenny... # | 0:28:49 | 0:28:50 | |
'It wasn't a city, it was a martial zone.' | 0:28:50 | 0:28:54 | |
It was... | 0:28:54 | 0:28:56 | |
the streets were cleared for the Bay City Rollers. | 0:28:56 | 0:29:01 | |
# When she hears rock 'n' roll tearing her heart and soul | 0:29:01 | 0:29:05 | |
# Jenny, Jenny Jenny gotta dance... # | 0:29:05 | 0:29:09 | |
There was a triumphant return of the conquering heroes, | 0:29:10 | 0:29:15 | |
like a movie spectacle, like Ben-Hur, | 0:29:15 | 0:29:18 | |
except they were all girls wearing these ugly pants. | 0:29:18 | 0:29:23 | |
They were so young and so fresh-faced. | 0:29:23 | 0:29:26 | |
They were just those wonderful Scottish, fair complexions | 0:29:29 | 0:29:33 | |
with rosy cheeks. | 0:29:33 | 0:29:35 | |
They were wild-eyed and they can sure scream loud. | 0:29:35 | 0:29:40 | |
SCREAMING | 0:29:40 | 0:29:42 | |
At the performance, I don't remember where I sat, | 0:29:44 | 0:29:49 | |
if I sat, it was just about, like, the being there. | 0:29:49 | 0:29:52 | |
# I wish that I could get a chance | 0:29:53 | 0:29:55 | |
# But all she ever wants to do is dance | 0:29:55 | 0:29:59 | |
# Dance, dance... # | 0:29:59 | 0:30:02 | |
Danny knew right away. | 0:30:02 | 0:30:04 | |
I mean, he had been in the business | 0:30:04 | 0:30:06 | |
long enough to know that, instantly... | 0:30:06 | 0:30:09 | |
that they fit the profile | 0:30:09 | 0:30:11 | |
and that they were going to be big. | 0:30:11 | 0:30:12 | |
They were adorable, you know? | 0:30:12 | 0:30:16 | |
And, yeah, | 0:30:16 | 0:30:19 | |
five cute guys at once, | 0:30:19 | 0:30:22 | |
that's the story of rock and roll. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:24 | |
When you have a band, | 0:30:24 | 0:30:26 | |
each kid can pick her favourite. | 0:30:26 | 0:30:28 | |
Same as they do with One Direction or 'NSYNC or the Backstreet Boys. | 0:30:28 | 0:30:33 | |
The Bay City Rollers happened to roll along | 0:30:36 | 0:30:40 | |
at exactly the right time in terms of 16 land. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:44 | |
In the autumn of 1975, | 0:30:49 | 0:30:50 | |
the final touches were being put to the campaign | 0:30:50 | 0:30:54 | |
to launch the Rollers in America. | 0:30:54 | 0:30:57 | |
It was a bit scary. | 0:30:57 | 0:30:59 | |
The record company boss Clive Davis, | 0:30:59 | 0:31:01 | |
who is probably a recognised genius in picking songs, | 0:31:01 | 0:31:06 | |
of course, we didn't know that at the time, | 0:31:06 | 0:31:08 | |
but he had chosen a song called Saturday Night for our first single. | 0:31:08 | 0:31:13 | |
# S-A-T-U-R-D-A-Y night... # | 0:31:13 | 0:31:17 | |
Originally a Bill and Phil production, | 0:31:17 | 0:31:19 | |
Saturday Night had failed to chart back in 1973. | 0:31:19 | 0:31:23 | |
I felt it was an odd choice, perhaps, | 0:31:25 | 0:31:27 | |
to take a record that had been a failure to be the one | 0:31:27 | 0:31:29 | |
that he put his weight behind. | 0:31:29 | 0:31:31 | |
Why didn't they release Bye Bye Baby? It's number one, you know? | 0:31:31 | 0:31:34 | |
Clive just said, "You have to be joking," | 0:31:34 | 0:31:37 | |
he says, "that's a classic, The Four Seasons, we're not releasing that." | 0:31:37 | 0:31:41 | |
That's how we picked Saturday Night. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:43 | |
# S-A-T-U-R-D-A-Y night... # | 0:31:43 | 0:31:46 | |
The way the music's structured in that song, it's pretty good. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:49 | |
You know, da-da-downg-downg-downg-downg. | 0:31:49 | 0:31:52 | |
# ..D-A-Y night... # | 0:31:52 | 0:31:53 | |
It's like cheerleaders going, "O-H-I-O, Ohio." | 0:31:53 | 0:31:57 | |
You know, the cheerleaders thing. | 0:31:57 | 0:31:59 | |
Well, this one went - S-A-T-U-R-D-A-Y night. | 0:31:59 | 0:32:03 | |
The off-beat kind of guitar riff. | 0:32:03 | 0:32:05 | |
It's got the Roller kind of drums in it. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:07 | |
It gets faster and faster. | 0:32:08 | 0:32:10 | |
# Keep on dancing to the rock 'n' roll | 0:32:10 | 0:32:13 | |
# Saturday night... # | 0:32:13 | 0:32:15 | |
On September 20, the Rollers performed | 0:32:15 | 0:32:17 | |
at London Weekend Television | 0:32:17 | 0:32:19 | |
and were beamed by satellite | 0:32:19 | 0:32:21 | |
into the homes of 30 million unsuspecting Americans. | 0:32:21 | 0:32:26 | |
I was at school in Millburn, New Jersey, | 0:32:28 | 0:32:30 | |
which is about 20 miles outside New York. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:33 | |
I only had a black-and-white TV | 0:32:33 | 0:32:35 | |
but, even so, I could tell that they were such an explosion | 0:32:35 | 0:32:40 | |
of youth and joy and exuberance. | 0:32:40 | 0:32:45 | |
And, the minute their song ended, | 0:32:45 | 0:32:47 | |
the phone rang and it was my friend Pat and she said to me, "Eric!" | 0:32:47 | 0:32:53 | |
And I said, "Woody!" | 0:32:53 | 0:32:56 | |
And... | 0:32:56 | 0:32:58 | |
And I was absolutely amazed. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:01 | |
I mean, this must have been what Donny Osmond fans had gone through, | 0:33:01 | 0:33:04 | |
but this was happening to me. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:07 | |
# S-A-T-U-R-D-A-Y night... # | 0:33:07 | 0:33:11 | |
Their performance in London ended with a stage invasion | 0:33:11 | 0:33:14 | |
that put Woody and Les in hospital. | 0:33:14 | 0:33:18 | |
Two of the Bay City Rollers left hospital today | 0:33:18 | 0:33:21 | |
and returned to Glasgow. | 0:33:21 | 0:33:23 | |
There have been accusations that this Saturday evening's riot | 0:33:23 | 0:33:27 | |
was deliberately put on for the sake of the huge American audience | 0:33:27 | 0:33:31 | |
watching the show from the other side of the Atlantic. | 0:33:31 | 0:33:34 | |
We were getting check-ups yesterday. | 0:33:34 | 0:33:37 | |
-No broken bones. -You feel OK? | 0:33:37 | 0:33:40 | |
-Yeah. -Jolly good. -Right, we'd better get this plane, chaps. -See ya. -Ta-ra. | 0:33:40 | 0:33:45 | |
Ten days later, the Rollers were on their way to America. | 0:33:45 | 0:33:49 | |
# Saturday night | 0:33:49 | 0:33:52 | |
# Saturday night... # | 0:33:52 | 0:33:56 | |
When they came to New York, actually turned up in person, | 0:33:56 | 0:34:00 | |
obviously, I had to go. | 0:34:00 | 0:34:03 | |
# S-A-T-U-R-D-A-Y night | 0:34:03 | 0:34:06 | |
# S-A-T-U-R-D-A-Y night | 0:34:06 | 0:34:09 | |
# S-A-T-U-R-D-A-Y night... # | 0:34:09 | 0:34:12 | |
When the Rollers arrived, | 0:34:12 | 0:34:13 | |
their new fans were there to meet them. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:16 | |
We had arranged for them to be there | 0:34:16 | 0:34:19 | |
by leaking their flight information. | 0:34:19 | 0:34:22 | |
She said, "Oh, it's going to be flight whatever, TWA, September 30." | 0:34:22 | 0:34:26 | |
GIRLS SCREAMING | 0:34:26 | 0:34:28 | |
I went out there and witnessed this unbelievable happening | 0:34:32 | 0:34:37 | |
at, you know, JFK. | 0:34:37 | 0:34:39 | |
This was an era when rock bands didn't smile | 0:34:44 | 0:34:46 | |
because it would have meant that they weren't serious | 0:34:46 | 0:34:49 | |
but the Rollers were actually smiling | 0:34:49 | 0:34:50 | |
and you could tell they weren't American. | 0:34:50 | 0:34:53 | |
There was something smaller, scrawnier, paler about them. | 0:34:53 | 0:34:59 | |
Slightly kind of almost unhealthy looking, which I loved. | 0:34:59 | 0:35:04 | |
The crush was crazy | 0:35:08 | 0:35:10 | |
and there were so many Roller fans. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:13 | |
They pushed me onto one of those carousels, those luggage carousels, | 0:35:13 | 0:35:17 | |
and I...I had to be rescued, | 0:35:17 | 0:35:19 | |
I was like with my feet up in the air | 0:35:19 | 0:35:22 | |
going around on the carousel. | 0:35:22 | 0:35:26 | |
Watch your backs! Watch your backs! | 0:35:34 | 0:35:36 | |
It was like the Beatles all over again. | 0:35:36 | 0:35:38 | |
In fact, it might have even been bigger | 0:35:38 | 0:35:40 | |
because we walked to our limos and we drove straight out of that airport. | 0:35:40 | 0:35:44 | |
HORN BEEPS | 0:35:44 | 0:35:46 | |
That was brilliant. | 0:35:46 | 0:35:47 | |
I remember getting out of a big stretch Lincoln | 0:35:47 | 0:35:50 | |
and I was just seeing the tall, tall buildings, you know? | 0:35:50 | 0:35:53 | |
I'd never been there. | 0:35:53 | 0:35:55 | |
First time in America, you know, it was great. It was unbelievable. | 0:35:55 | 0:35:58 | |
# Be my, be my baby | 0:35:58 | 0:36:00 | |
# Be my baby now | 0:36:00 | 0:36:02 | |
# My one and only baby... # | 0:36:02 | 0:36:05 | |
That was great. I mean, that was like a dream come true. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:07 | |
I mean, you know, never having been to America, | 0:36:07 | 0:36:09 | |
to suddenly be driving through New York | 0:36:09 | 0:36:11 | |
with these big skyscrapers and stuff. | 0:36:11 | 0:36:13 | |
For us, that was just, you know - | 0:36:13 | 0:36:15 | |
never imagined in your wildest dreams you'd get to America, obviously. | 0:36:15 | 0:36:19 | |
All I could think about was, "I want to see the skyscrapers. | 0:36:19 | 0:36:21 | |
"I want to get a hot dog." | 0:36:21 | 0:36:23 | |
Hot dog! | 0:36:23 | 0:36:25 | |
"And just experience New York." | 0:36:25 | 0:36:27 | |
The biggest event on the promotional schedule? | 0:36:29 | 0:36:31 | |
Saturday night's the Howard Cosell show. | 0:36:31 | 0:36:34 | |
They put us in a big tartan box with a big ribbon on it | 0:36:34 | 0:36:38 | |
and he goes, "Ladies and gentlemen, from Scotland," you know, | 0:36:38 | 0:36:42 | |
"Scotland, England," or something like that, | 0:36:42 | 0:36:45 | |
"The Bay City Rollers." | 0:36:45 | 0:36:46 | |
And, of course, the ribbon was pulled to the side, | 0:36:46 | 0:36:49 | |
"S-A-T-U-R..." And that was it. | 0:36:49 | 0:36:52 | |
# S-A-T-U-R-D-A-Y night | 0:36:53 | 0:36:56 | |
# S-A-T-U-R-D-A-Y night | 0:36:56 | 0:37:00 | |
# S-A-T-U-R-D-A-Y night | 0:37:00 | 0:37:03 | |
# S-A-T-U-R-D-A-Y night | 0:37:03 | 0:37:07 | |
# S-A-T-U-R-D-A-Y night | 0:37:07 | 0:37:10 | |
# Gonna keep on dancing to the rock 'n' roll | 0:37:10 | 0:37:13 | |
# On Saturday night Saturday night... # | 0:37:13 | 0:37:17 | |
It was about them. | 0:37:17 | 0:37:18 | |
It was about these five young boys, | 0:37:18 | 0:37:22 | |
different, accessible, fresh | 0:37:22 | 0:37:26 | |
and coming to America. | 0:37:26 | 0:37:28 | |
# I-I-I-I got a date... # | 0:37:28 | 0:37:33 | |
I know we went to Rockefeller Center. | 0:37:33 | 0:37:35 | |
I took pictures of them in front of the skating rink | 0:37:35 | 0:37:37 | |
and then we went on top of the RC building | 0:37:37 | 0:37:39 | |
and got the whole panorama of New York City behind them. | 0:37:39 | 0:37:43 | |
# Do it all Have a ball | 0:37:43 | 0:37:44 | |
# Saturday night Saturday night... # | 0:37:44 | 0:37:49 | |
At the time, I made more money with the Rollers | 0:37:49 | 0:37:51 | |
than any other band I worked with. | 0:37:51 | 0:37:53 | |
If I would go to a magazine, | 0:37:53 | 0:37:55 | |
I would show them pictures I had taken | 0:37:55 | 0:37:57 | |
of all the bands I'd seen recently | 0:37:57 | 0:37:58 | |
and they might take one picture of Blondie, | 0:37:58 | 0:38:00 | |
maybe two or three pictures of the Rolling Stones | 0:38:00 | 0:38:03 | |
and 48 pictures of the Bay City Rollers. | 0:38:03 | 0:38:05 | |
# S-A-T-U-R-D-A-Y night | 0:38:05 | 0:38:07 | |
# S-A-T-U-R-D-A-Y night... # | 0:38:07 | 0:38:10 | |
The typical 16 reader was the girl | 0:38:10 | 0:38:13 | |
who was too old to be sitting on daddy's knee | 0:38:13 | 0:38:16 | |
and really too young to be dating the boy next door. | 0:38:16 | 0:38:20 | |
So the Rollers, when they came over here, | 0:38:20 | 0:38:22 | |
they were not only on the cover | 0:38:22 | 0:38:24 | |
but on the banner, on the top banner. | 0:38:24 | 0:38:27 | |
Many, many, many issues. | 0:38:27 | 0:38:29 | |
There was room for a new phenomenon for teens. | 0:38:31 | 0:38:36 | |
A group for teens. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:38 | |
During the week that they spent in New York, | 0:38:43 | 0:38:45 | |
I spent a lot of time on the phone to Carol Strauss. | 0:38:45 | 0:38:49 | |
She was really happy to tell us exactly what they were going | 0:38:49 | 0:38:52 | |
to be doing and where to find them. | 0:38:52 | 0:38:54 | |
It was from one event to the next. | 0:38:56 | 0:38:58 | |
They would pop out of the cars, | 0:38:58 | 0:39:00 | |
or, in one case, the helicopter, | 0:39:00 | 0:39:02 | |
and, you know, run into the event | 0:39:02 | 0:39:04 | |
because there were a lot of screaming and kids outside, | 0:39:04 | 0:39:06 | |
the cops holding them back, | 0:39:06 | 0:39:08 | |
and so there was always chaos wherever we went. | 0:39:08 | 0:39:10 | |
I was having a really good look at them, up and down, | 0:39:10 | 0:39:12 | |
and I suddenly saw that Leslie, as he was called then, | 0:39:12 | 0:39:15 | |
wasn't wearing underwear and I thought, "Edgy!" | 0:39:15 | 0:39:19 | |
Oh, yeah, that's common. | 0:39:19 | 0:39:21 | |
I mean, we didn't know what underwear was until we were like 16. | 0:39:21 | 0:39:25 | |
I did get a really good picture of Woody. | 0:39:27 | 0:39:29 | |
He was wearing his top button, top trouser button, undone, | 0:39:29 | 0:39:33 | |
which was a Roller thing. | 0:39:33 | 0:39:34 | |
It was actually a Tam thing. | 0:39:34 | 0:39:38 | |
He insisted that they were their top buttons undone | 0:39:38 | 0:39:40 | |
because it was a little bit provocative | 0:39:40 | 0:39:43 | |
but, at the time, I just thought, "God," I mean, "Mind blown." | 0:39:43 | 0:39:47 | |
It was amazing. | 0:39:47 | 0:39:48 | |
Helicopters and planes and hotels. | 0:39:48 | 0:39:51 | |
Looking out the window and, every time you stuck your head | 0:39:51 | 0:39:54 | |
out a window, you'd have thousands of people going "Wahey!" | 0:39:54 | 0:39:56 | |
And then getting the phone call saying, "Could you stop? | 0:39:56 | 0:39:59 | |
"Pull your curtains, please." | 0:39:59 | 0:40:00 | |
You know, you'll get thrown out. | 0:40:00 | 0:40:03 | |
Imagine if you could do that in real life. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:06 | |
I mean, almost like scratching your ear and have people faint | 0:40:06 | 0:40:10 | |
because that was the sexiest thing they ever saw. | 0:40:10 | 0:40:13 | |
Nothing could go wrong. It was just... | 0:40:13 | 0:40:16 | |
Couldn't believe it. | 0:40:16 | 0:40:17 | |
And here we are, we've made it, in America. | 0:40:17 | 0:40:21 | |
# S-A-T-U-R-D-A-Y... # | 0:40:21 | 0:40:24 | |
By January 1976, | 0:40:24 | 0:40:27 | |
Saturday Night had climbed to the top of the Billboard chart. | 0:40:27 | 0:40:30 | |
Saturday Night went to number one in America | 0:40:30 | 0:40:33 | |
and sold 12 million records. | 0:40:33 | 0:40:36 | |
We were thrilled. We were over the moon. | 0:40:36 | 0:40:38 | |
It was mission accomplished. | 0:40:38 | 0:40:40 | |
# It's just a Saturday night... # | 0:40:42 | 0:40:45 | |
The Rollers had even reached the depths | 0:40:45 | 0:40:47 | |
of New York's underground punk scene. | 0:40:47 | 0:40:50 | |
The Bay City Rollers were probably the least cool band in the world | 0:40:50 | 0:40:53 | |
at the time, when Saturday Night became a hit in America. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:57 | |
Therefore, they would be right high up on the list of the bands | 0:40:57 | 0:41:01 | |
the Ramones would think were very, very cool. | 0:41:01 | 0:41:04 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:41:04 | 0:41:06 | |
We loved them. They had a number one hit. | 0:41:06 | 0:41:08 | |
Why didn't we get a number one hit? | 0:41:08 | 0:41:09 | |
What's their secret? What are they doing? | 0:41:09 | 0:41:11 | |
Come on, you know them, what do they do? | 0:41:11 | 0:41:13 | |
How'd they get number one? | 0:41:13 | 0:41:15 | |
There were two things that were very influential. | 0:41:15 | 0:41:19 | |
One was this idea of three-minute pop, and quick, | 0:41:19 | 0:41:22 | |
and everybody having kind of a uniform look, | 0:41:22 | 0:41:26 | |
and their fans copying what the band looked like. | 0:41:26 | 0:41:30 | |
And the other aspect of it was the football chant | 0:41:30 | 0:41:33 | |
at the beginning of Saturday Night. | 0:41:33 | 0:41:35 | |
# Hey, ho, let's go! | 0:41:35 | 0:41:37 | |
# Hey, ho, let's go! | 0:41:37 | 0:41:40 | |
# Hey, ho, let's go! # | 0:41:40 | 0:41:42 | |
I don't see how anybody's ever missed this - | 0:41:42 | 0:41:44 | |
the opening of Saturday Night | 0:41:44 | 0:41:46 | |
is virtually the same as Blitzkrieg Bop. | 0:41:46 | 0:41:50 | |
# The kids are losing their minds | 0:41:50 | 0:41:52 | |
# Blitzkrieg bop... # | 0:41:52 | 0:41:54 | |
Blitzkrieg Bop is, | 0:41:55 | 0:41:58 | |
if not note for note or word for... | 0:41:58 | 0:42:01 | |
It's not word for word, but in feeling and everything, | 0:42:01 | 0:42:04 | |
it's a direct homage. | 0:42:04 | 0:42:05 | |
# Hey, ho, let's go! | 0:42:07 | 0:42:09 | |
# Hey, ho, let's go! # | 0:42:09 | 0:42:13 | |
No-one was immune to their charm. | 0:42:13 | 0:42:15 | |
# Hey, ho, let's go! # | 0:42:15 | 0:42:18 | |
I mean, it doesn't get much better than that, and we were like, | 0:42:18 | 0:42:21 | |
"My God, this is really taking off now," you know? | 0:42:21 | 0:42:24 | |
I can only refer to it as like a white stallion, | 0:42:25 | 0:42:30 | |
and in fact, it's staying on that's the problem. | 0:42:30 | 0:42:33 | |
# Oh, you dream of a silver stallion | 0:42:33 | 0:42:38 | |
# Riding high on the stars above... # | 0:42:38 | 0:42:42 | |
The Rollers' desire for more artistic control | 0:42:42 | 0:42:45 | |
was about to see off another producer. | 0:42:45 | 0:42:48 | |
We were making a third album, | 0:42:50 | 0:42:52 | |
and the boys had written... | 0:42:52 | 0:42:54 | |
I don't know, it might have been four or five songs | 0:42:54 | 0:42:57 | |
for the new album. | 0:42:57 | 0:42:59 | |
And these songs weren't great. | 0:42:59 | 0:43:02 | |
Eric and Woody, yeah, | 0:43:03 | 0:43:04 | |
they were writing a lot of songs around that time as well. | 0:43:04 | 0:43:07 | |
We had the same problem over again. | 0:43:07 | 0:43:10 | |
The boys still wanted to write, and Phil Wainman didn't think either | 0:43:10 | 0:43:13 | |
that they should be writing their own material. | 0:43:13 | 0:43:15 | |
I mean, I still wonder if ANY track that we did | 0:43:15 | 0:43:19 | |
was going to go to number one, | 0:43:19 | 0:43:21 | |
because the band had become more popular | 0:43:21 | 0:43:24 | |
than probably the music that we were doing. | 0:43:24 | 0:43:27 | |
And I said, well, this is maybe wasting... You're wasting my time. | 0:43:27 | 0:43:31 | |
# Oh, Marlena... # | 0:43:31 | 0:43:34 | |
With the world at their feet, | 0:43:35 | 0:43:37 | |
the Rollers escaped the hot summer of '76 to cement their superstardom. | 0:43:37 | 0:43:41 | |
# Don't you know | 0:43:44 | 0:43:45 | |
# You're gonna dream your life away? # | 0:43:45 | 0:43:49 | |
Just remember finishing the acoustic guitar, | 0:43:49 | 0:43:51 | |
you know, at the end of the song - drrring! | 0:43:51 | 0:43:53 | |
"That was great, guys, eh?" | 0:43:53 | 0:43:55 | |
And everyone's going, "Shut up, shut up!" | 0:43:55 | 0:43:57 | |
You're meant to, drrring, | 0:43:57 | 0:43:59 | |
just let it... You know, quiet. Then speak. | 0:43:59 | 0:44:02 | |
So we had to do that track again. | 0:44:02 | 0:44:04 | |
-# Money -Money | 0:44:15 | 0:44:18 | |
# Can't make you turn your head, now... # | 0:44:18 | 0:44:21 | |
Rallying crowds of tartan teenagers | 0:44:23 | 0:44:26 | |
in the United States, Canada and Japan, | 0:44:26 | 0:44:29 | |
in 1976 Rollermania took over the world. | 0:44:29 | 0:44:32 | |
Tam was very much responsible for a lot of their day-to-day lives, | 0:44:35 | 0:44:39 | |
and he told them when to get up | 0:44:39 | 0:44:42 | |
and when to go to bed. | 0:44:42 | 0:44:43 | |
And it was him who decided they were going to be squeaky-clean. | 0:44:43 | 0:44:48 | |
In the hotels, we always had to double up in the hotel | 0:44:48 | 0:44:51 | |
so nobody would get up to any shenanigans. | 0:44:51 | 0:44:53 | |
You weren't allowed to have any girlfriends | 0:44:53 | 0:44:55 | |
or anything like that, you know. | 0:44:55 | 0:44:57 | |
Or any kind of, you know, obvious girlfriends. | 0:44:57 | 0:45:00 | |
-Do you have a girlfriend? -Not at the moment, no. | 0:45:00 | 0:45:03 | |
Woody, do you have a girlfriend? | 0:45:03 | 0:45:05 | |
Er, not at the moment. Still looking. | 0:45:05 | 0:45:07 | |
-Are you really looking? -Yeah, because I mean, well, I'm 18. | 0:45:07 | 0:45:11 | |
I mean, aah...! | 0:45:11 | 0:45:13 | |
-Would you tell me if you had one? -No. | 0:45:13 | 0:45:16 | |
If the band were seen to have girlfriends, | 0:45:16 | 0:45:17 | |
that would turn a lot of the fans off. | 0:45:17 | 0:45:19 | |
I think there's plenty of years ahead of us to get settled down | 0:45:19 | 0:45:22 | |
and get married and that, you know? | 0:45:22 | 0:45:23 | |
Apparently it was also his brilliant idea to put jugs of milk | 0:45:23 | 0:45:26 | |
on tables at press conferences and pretend that they only drank milk. | 0:45:26 | 0:45:30 | |
There was no alcohol around. | 0:45:33 | 0:45:36 | |
I remember one time in between something | 0:45:36 | 0:45:39 | |
I had a sip of something, | 0:45:39 | 0:45:41 | |
and from five feet away, | 0:45:41 | 0:45:43 | |
Tam Paton turned around and said, "Who's been drinking?" | 0:45:43 | 0:45:46 | |
I was like, "Oops." | 0:45:46 | 0:45:48 | |
Tam's monastic regime and rigorous touring | 0:45:49 | 0:45:52 | |
took the Eric and Woody track Money Honey to number nine in the US. | 0:45:52 | 0:45:56 | |
But back home, the media spotlight was falling | 0:46:00 | 0:46:03 | |
on how much money the band were making | 0:46:03 | 0:46:05 | |
and how well it was being managed. | 0:46:05 | 0:46:06 | |
It's upon me to see that they do survive. | 0:46:06 | 0:46:09 | |
I mean, no use in 10 years' time or 12 years' time or 15 years' time | 0:46:09 | 0:46:13 | |
to turn round and say, "Tam Paton was our manager. | 0:46:13 | 0:46:17 | |
"I'm working on a truck now. I'm driving a truck. | 0:46:17 | 0:46:20 | |
"I haven't got a penny to rub together." | 0:46:20 | 0:46:22 | |
We had been getting it in the earhole - | 0:46:22 | 0:46:24 | |
"You guys are all millionaires, | 0:46:24 | 0:46:25 | |
"you've got nothing to worry about for the rest of your life. | 0:46:25 | 0:46:28 | |
"I've got it all fixed out for you." | 0:46:28 | 0:46:30 | |
What he meant was, "I've got it all sorted out for me. | 0:46:30 | 0:46:33 | |
-"And you guys are all screwed." -HE LAUGHS | 0:46:33 | 0:46:36 | |
How much did you earn last year? | 0:46:36 | 0:46:39 | |
Erm, I don't know. You'd probably have to ask Tam that one. | 0:46:39 | 0:46:41 | |
We came from a background with very little education. | 0:46:41 | 0:46:44 | |
Basically, we were pretty dumb, you know. | 0:46:44 | 0:46:47 | |
So all we knew was how to play the music and go on the road. | 0:46:47 | 0:46:50 | |
By early 1976, founder member Alan had had enough. | 0:46:52 | 0:46:56 | |
I think I left around about April, May. | 0:46:56 | 0:46:58 | |
It was just in your face all the time, you know? | 0:46:58 | 0:47:01 | |
I was getting depressed and things like that. | 0:47:01 | 0:47:04 | |
I just couldn't take it any more, and I just said, "I'm going." | 0:47:04 | 0:47:08 | |
THEY CHEER | 0:47:08 | 0:47:11 | |
Alan, you sad at all at leaving the Rollers? | 0:47:11 | 0:47:13 | |
Sometimes, yeah, cos I really enjoyed it | 0:47:13 | 0:47:16 | |
when I was with the group, but I think I've... | 0:47:16 | 0:47:18 | |
It took me a year to make the decision. | 0:47:18 | 0:47:20 | |
Ian, are you looking forward to all the money you're going to make? | 0:47:20 | 0:47:23 | |
Well, I'm not really in it just for the money. | 0:47:23 | 0:47:26 | |
I like to travel the world and things like that. | 0:47:26 | 0:47:29 | |
That's going to make life very different for you, isn't it? | 0:47:29 | 0:47:31 | |
Travelling around the world, after Belfast. | 0:47:31 | 0:47:34 | |
How does it feel having an Irishman amongst all of you? | 0:47:34 | 0:47:37 | |
-It's really great. -It's different. -It's different. | 0:47:37 | 0:47:39 | |
Nah, he's a not bad lad. | 0:47:39 | 0:47:41 | |
It's better than having all these Scottish guys, you know. | 0:47:41 | 0:47:44 | |
With new boy Ian Mitchell in, the Rollers were back across the pond | 0:47:46 | 0:47:50 | |
to promote new album, Rock n' Roll Love Letter. | 0:47:50 | 0:47:53 | |
I think when Alan left the band, that was the beginning of the end. | 0:47:56 | 0:48:00 | |
The constant touring and desire to outgrow their teen label | 0:48:03 | 0:48:07 | |
had taken its toll. | 0:48:07 | 0:48:09 | |
I'd wake up sometimes and not know what country I was in, | 0:48:10 | 0:48:13 | |
because we were sort of jet-setting about the place so often. | 0:48:13 | 0:48:17 | |
Theatres are theatres. Wherever you're playing, venues are venues. | 0:48:17 | 0:48:20 | |
The limos to the hotels, the aeroplanes - | 0:48:20 | 0:48:23 | |
it just became a big mush. | 0:48:23 | 0:48:25 | |
The incessant globetrotting left UK fans wondering | 0:48:29 | 0:48:33 | |
what had happened to the boys next door. | 0:48:33 | 0:48:35 | |
Don't you think to some extent this is letting down your fans? | 0:48:35 | 0:48:38 | |
There have been quite a lot of stories, | 0:48:38 | 0:48:40 | |
especially in the pop papers, Tam, haven't there, | 0:48:40 | 0:48:42 | |
that time is over now? | 0:48:42 | 0:48:44 | |
Oh, yeah. "It's time to go," you know. | 0:48:44 | 0:48:45 | |
"The Rollers have finished", and all this kind of thing. | 0:48:45 | 0:48:48 | |
Our fans aren't stupid, | 0:48:48 | 0:48:50 | |
and I don't think they will believe things that people put in papers. | 0:48:50 | 0:48:53 | |
And I hope they never will. | 0:48:53 | 0:48:55 | |
Things were probably starting to fall apart a little bit by then. | 0:48:55 | 0:49:00 | |
Ian Mitchell quit the Rollers after just six months. | 0:49:01 | 0:49:05 | |
His replacement, Pat McGlynn, lasted even less time, | 0:49:05 | 0:49:09 | |
while the band's involvement in an ill-fated American kids' TV show | 0:49:09 | 0:49:13 | |
did nothing to reassure British bands, | 0:49:13 | 0:49:16 | |
nor heal the growing rifts within the group. | 0:49:16 | 0:49:18 | |
# When we walk down the street | 0:49:18 | 0:49:20 | |
# See the people stop and stare and say | 0:49:22 | 0:49:25 | |
# Haven't I seen that face somewhere a long time ago? # | 0:49:25 | 0:49:30 | |
I was feeling restricted. | 0:49:30 | 0:49:32 | |
Tam Paton still had an iron grip type control on the other guys, | 0:49:32 | 0:49:37 | |
so they were in the camp, let's say, and I was halfway over the fence. | 0:49:37 | 0:49:42 | |
He kind of went off the rails a bit, | 0:49:42 | 0:49:44 | |
cos he was hanging out with all kinds of people that'd tell him | 0:49:44 | 0:49:46 | |
how wonderful he was and how great he was, | 0:49:46 | 0:49:48 | |
and unfortunately he just took that on board. | 0:49:48 | 0:49:50 | |
And then he kind of moved further and further away | 0:49:50 | 0:49:53 | |
from the rest of the band, thinking, you know, | 0:49:53 | 0:49:55 | |
that he was going to be the great big solo star. | 0:49:55 | 0:49:58 | |
Well, I was absolutely loving it, | 0:50:01 | 0:50:03 | |
being famous all over the world, and I just wanted to eat it up. | 0:50:03 | 0:50:08 | |
I was young and... | 0:50:08 | 0:50:11 | |
horny and all those sort of things, | 0:50:11 | 0:50:13 | |
and I just wanted to get out there and just, you know, eat things. | 0:50:13 | 0:50:17 | |
You know, everything. I wanted to just be a famous pop star. | 0:50:17 | 0:50:22 | |
# And I'll show you a song from the heart... # | 0:50:22 | 0:50:26 | |
CHEERING | 0:50:26 | 0:50:29 | |
Now, just back from the States, I've got here with me | 0:50:29 | 0:50:31 | |
the tartan terrors, the BCRs, or the Bay City Rollers. | 0:50:31 | 0:50:37 | |
In August '77, the Rollers unveiled their sixth studio album. | 0:50:42 | 0:50:47 | |
# I believe that love has gone | 0:50:49 | 0:50:54 | |
# I've no strength to carry on | 0:50:54 | 0:50:57 | |
# Thought my world was upside down | 0:50:58 | 0:51:03 | |
# Then... # | 0:51:03 | 0:51:05 | |
Enlisting David Bowie's producer, Harry Maslin, | 0:51:05 | 0:51:08 | |
It's A Game revealed a more mature sound, | 0:51:08 | 0:51:11 | |
and its eponymous single, peaking at number 16, | 0:51:11 | 0:51:14 | |
would give the band their last ever UK top 20 spot. | 0:51:14 | 0:51:18 | |
# You made me believe in magic | 0:51:18 | 0:51:21 | |
# You know that I can be true to your love... # | 0:51:21 | 0:51:25 | |
By about late 1977 they were declining in popularity quite a bit. | 0:51:25 | 0:51:30 | |
I mean, there's obviously a sell-by date for all boybands, | 0:51:30 | 0:51:33 | |
and the Rollers were reaching theirs. | 0:51:33 | 0:51:35 | |
They'd had a really good run from '74 to '77. | 0:51:35 | 0:51:37 | |
So the fans were growing up, and also the Rollers themselves, | 0:51:37 | 0:51:40 | |
they were obviously completely fed up with it. | 0:51:40 | 0:51:43 | |
In 1977, a new teen sensation took over the streets of Britain. | 0:51:44 | 0:51:49 | |
That was a Conservative pound. | 0:51:49 | 0:51:52 | |
That's the Labour pound after four years of Labour government. | 0:51:54 | 0:51:59 | |
As the pop world mourned the death of Marc Bolan, | 0:52:03 | 0:52:06 | |
the Rollers went back into the studio. | 0:52:06 | 0:52:09 | |
But despite Alan returning, the band was in turmoil. | 0:52:09 | 0:52:13 | |
# You made me believe in magic... # | 0:52:13 | 0:52:16 | |
I said, "Well, look, I want my own security | 0:52:16 | 0:52:18 | |
"cos I don't feel safe around you guys." | 0:52:18 | 0:52:21 | |
So I get my own security and they've got their own security, | 0:52:21 | 0:52:23 | |
and I want picked up in my limo, they get picked up in their limo. | 0:52:23 | 0:52:26 | |
So it got to one of those really childish... | 0:52:26 | 0:52:29 | |
This kind of thing. | 0:52:29 | 0:52:32 | |
But I couldn't escape from it. | 0:52:32 | 0:52:34 | |
By the time they arrived to play a concert in Osaka, Japan in 1978, | 0:52:36 | 0:52:41 | |
the band were unravelling. | 0:52:41 | 0:52:42 | |
I'd be on stage singing, and there would be no spotlight on me. | 0:52:44 | 0:52:48 | |
So where do I go for my spotlight? | 0:52:48 | 0:52:51 | |
Wherever the spotlights are, and that's where the problem started. | 0:52:51 | 0:52:55 | |
And here's buggerlugs decides to walk along and stand in front of me. | 0:52:55 | 0:53:00 | |
It wasn't that I stole someone's spotlight. | 0:53:00 | 0:53:02 | |
It was more, I didn't have a spotlight and I wanted one. | 0:53:02 | 0:53:05 | |
Just, you know, stealing the limelight. | 0:53:05 | 0:53:08 | |
# It's a game, a game, a game | 0:53:08 | 0:53:12 | |
# That we're playing... # | 0:53:12 | 0:53:14 | |
Les was actually going up front, | 0:53:14 | 0:53:16 | |
going up to Woody and pushing him all the time. | 0:53:16 | 0:53:18 | |
And Woody was getting annoyed and annoyed, | 0:53:18 | 0:53:20 | |
and I could see it happening, | 0:53:20 | 0:53:21 | |
but you're in front of maybe 20,000 people, | 0:53:21 | 0:53:23 | |
you can't do anything about it, you know? | 0:53:23 | 0:53:25 | |
Les, great performer - he was up the front of the stage, | 0:53:25 | 0:53:28 | |
used to kind of work that stage and get the audience, "Yeah!" | 0:53:28 | 0:53:32 | |
Join in, and all this. | 0:53:32 | 0:53:33 | |
He's at the front of the stage, and a bundle of people there, | 0:53:33 | 0:53:36 | |
and it was those sort of 10-foot high stages. | 0:53:36 | 0:53:38 | |
Boot. Just kicked him right off the stage. | 0:53:40 | 0:53:42 | |
I don't know what overcame me. I just couldn't resist it. | 0:53:42 | 0:53:45 | |
It was just the way he was bending down, | 0:53:45 | 0:53:47 | |
and I thought, "Right, ya wee..." | 0:53:47 | 0:53:49 | |
Boot. And off he went, flying into the audience. | 0:53:49 | 0:53:52 | |
I remember there were a couple of punches thrown as well, | 0:53:52 | 0:53:56 | |
and it was a bit kind of... This was a concert, for goodness' sake. | 0:53:56 | 0:53:59 | |
It was like, "Oh, God. | 0:53:59 | 0:54:00 | |
"You can't behave like that on stage," you know? | 0:54:00 | 0:54:03 | |
So it was just cos the frustrations | 0:54:03 | 0:54:04 | |
were getting the better of everybody. | 0:54:04 | 0:54:06 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:54:06 | 0:54:08 | |
As you say, it's like Spinal Tap. | 0:54:08 | 0:54:10 | |
It was comedy, if it wasn't so painful. | 0:54:10 | 0:54:13 | |
But the writing was really on the wall | 0:54:17 | 0:54:19 | |
when Les left in the summer of 1978. It was kind of... | 0:54:19 | 0:54:24 | |
It was almost like the ravens leaving the Tower Of London, | 0:54:24 | 0:54:26 | |
or Robbie leaving Take That. | 0:54:26 | 0:54:29 | |
The classic Bay City Roller line-up was over. | 0:54:31 | 0:54:34 | |
With Les gone, the remaining Rollers hired a new singer, | 0:54:36 | 0:54:40 | |
and, in 1979, fired manager Tam Paton. | 0:54:40 | 0:54:44 | |
It would mark the start of a protracted and costly legal battle | 0:54:45 | 0:54:49 | |
between themselves and their label | 0:54:49 | 0:54:51 | |
in pursuit of the money they were owed. | 0:54:51 | 0:54:54 | |
And of course, Les fell out with everybody, | 0:54:54 | 0:54:56 | |
and then we fell out with him, | 0:54:56 | 0:54:58 | |
and then we fell out with Eric and everybody fell out with each other. | 0:54:58 | 0:55:01 | |
Eventually we lost the house and all this kind of stuff. It was terrible, | 0:55:01 | 0:55:05 | |
cos don't forget, I had asked my mum and dad to move | 0:55:05 | 0:55:08 | |
out of their council house and come and live in this house with me. | 0:55:08 | 0:55:11 | |
"Don't worry, I'm a millionaire. I'll look after you." | 0:55:11 | 0:55:14 | |
I think we were definitely ripped off, that's for sure, | 0:55:14 | 0:55:16 | |
but I think there was a big element of naivete as well. | 0:55:16 | 0:55:18 | |
People would come along and tell you, "You guys just concentrate on playing | 0:55:18 | 0:55:22 | |
"and we'll do all the business stuff," and you just accepted that. | 0:55:22 | 0:55:25 | |
Despite estimated global sales of over 300 million records, | 0:55:27 | 0:55:31 | |
the Rollers maintain they never saw their share. | 0:55:31 | 0:55:34 | |
I have no qualms about saying about Tam Paton that he was a disgrace. | 0:55:34 | 0:55:38 | |
He deserved to die a broken man, | 0:55:38 | 0:55:41 | |
because those wee boys should have had everything. | 0:55:41 | 0:55:45 | |
There'd be no point in majoring on... | 0:55:45 | 0:55:48 | |
on the disintegration of the Bay City Rollers. | 0:55:48 | 0:55:50 | |
That's painful for everybody. | 0:55:50 | 0:55:52 | |
It's painful for me, and it's certainly painful for them. | 0:55:52 | 0:55:55 | |
CHEERING AND SCREAMS | 0:55:55 | 0:55:57 | |
We're going to do a number called Shang-a-Lang. | 0:55:57 | 0:55:59 | |
CHEERING | 0:55:59 | 0:56:01 | |
The Rollers should be remembered for their glory days. | 0:56:01 | 0:56:03 | |
They were undoubtedly the biggest pop group | 0:56:03 | 0:56:06 | |
before One Direction or any of these things came along. | 0:56:06 | 0:56:10 | |
The invention of boy bands became an industry | 0:56:10 | 0:56:13 | |
thanks to the Bay City Rollers, I think. | 0:56:13 | 0:56:16 | |
# We were rippin' up We were rockin' up | 0:56:16 | 0:56:19 | |
# Roll it over and lay it down... # | 0:56:19 | 0:56:22 | |
It simply has everything. | 0:56:24 | 0:56:26 | |
The deals that go wrong, the ripping off of young, innocent people, | 0:56:26 | 0:56:30 | |
and of course at the heart of all of this is just great summer pop music. | 0:56:30 | 0:56:35 | |
# Hey, hey, rockin' to the music... # | 0:56:35 | 0:56:39 | |
The songs were genuinely happy, vibrant, | 0:56:39 | 0:56:43 | |
slightly punky songs. | 0:56:43 | 0:56:46 | |
When I hear them now, I still smile every time. | 0:56:46 | 0:56:50 | |
The band has actually made a stamp on history, | 0:56:53 | 0:56:55 | |
and I'm quite happy with that. | 0:56:55 | 0:56:57 | |
I think it just happened to fit the music industry at that time. | 0:56:59 | 0:57:04 | |
I think we brought a lot of fun, | 0:57:04 | 0:57:06 | |
a lot of great times for many, many people, | 0:57:06 | 0:57:09 | |
many thousands of people all over the world. | 0:57:09 | 0:57:11 | |
If I was to close my eyes and just sort of think and meditate, | 0:57:13 | 0:57:17 | |
or just be relaxed and just, you know... | 0:57:17 | 0:57:23 | |
"What does the '70s mean to you, Les?" | 0:57:23 | 0:57:27 | |
And I would just see a sea of smiling faces, | 0:57:27 | 0:57:30 | |
singing along with me, and that's all I would see. | 0:57:30 | 0:57:33 | |
# Headin' out of the city life | 0:57:40 | 0:57:42 | |
# A suitcase full of dreams | 0:57:44 | 0:57:47 | |
# Trying to find some kind of memories | 0:57:48 | 0:57:51 | |
# That didn't hold a distant scheme | 0:57:51 | 0:57:54 | |
# Something she said I can't remember | 0:57:57 | 0:58:00 | |
# But I answered her in turn all the same | 0:58:00 | 0:58:04 | |
# And what I saw in her style | 0:58:04 | 0:58:07 | |
# Well I've seen it before | 0:58:07 | 0:58:09 | |
# But somehow it looked quite different this time | 0:58:09 | 0:58:12 | |
# Goodbye to all the friends I never had | 0:58:15 | 0:58:19 | |
# Do you still remember me | 0:58:19 | 0:58:22 | |
# Takin' care of all your business | 0:58:23 | 0:58:27 | |
# You give it all away | 0:58:27 | 0:58:29 | |
# And I wonder | 0:58:30 | 0:58:33 | |
# With all your broken dreams and promises | 0:58:33 | 0:58:37 | |
# If you ever knew me at all | 0:58:37 | 0:58:39 | |
# For we are older now | 0:58:41 | 0:58:44 | |
# But somehow you still look the same | 0:58:44 | 0:58:48 | |
# Say a prayer for the one you need... # | 0:58:49 | 0:58:52 |