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This programme contains very strong language | :00:10. | :00:11. | |
This is the BBC Home Service. | :00:12. | :00:13. | |
Here is the first news for today, Sunday the 3rd, | :00:14. | :00:17. | |
The fourth anniversary of our entry into the war opens with more news | :00:18. | :00:23. | |
of German defeats in the west, east and south. | :00:24. | :00:27. | |
The Belgian frontier has now been crossed by two American spearheads. | :00:28. | :00:30. | |
And it was on the 18th of December 1943 that you were born. | :00:31. | :00:42. | |
The label on your cot said "Keith Richards". | :00:43. | :00:46. | |
Born in a hospital near Dartford, England. | :00:47. | :00:48. | |
Thousands of babies were born the same day and you were one | :00:49. | :00:55. | |
You're alive, you're healthy, you've got parents that will take | :00:56. | :01:00. | |
AIR RAID SIREN BLARES PLANES FLY OVERHEAD | :01:01. | :01:07. | |
For around you is being fought the worst war ever known. | :01:08. | :01:18. | |
We'd kept on at it to save our skins. | :01:19. | :01:34. | |
And also because we had a feeling deep down inside us | :01:35. | :01:37. | |
that we were fighting for you, for you and all the other babies. | :01:38. | :01:40. | |
You didn't know anything about this, of course. | :01:41. | :01:42. | |
But you were part of the war, even before you were born. | :01:43. | :01:46. | |
Are you going to have greed for money or power, | :01:47. | :01:54. | |
ousting decency from the world as they have in the past? | :01:55. | :01:56. | |
Or are you going to make the world a different place, | :01:57. | :01:59. | |
Doris, my mum, the family, everybody's scrambling | :02:00. | :02:16. | |
According to Mother, the sirens were going off | :02:17. | :02:22. | |
MUSIC: We'll Meet Again by Vera Lynn | :02:23. | :03:02. | |
much about that, except that I have a complete hatred | :03:03. | :03:06. | |
AIR RAID SIREN BLARES DOG WHIMPERS | :03:07. | :03:14. | |
I wasn't there, of course. | :03:15. | :03:38. | |
I mean, I was smart enough not to be at home at the time, apparently. | :03:39. | :03:45. | |
MUSIC: Gimme Shelter by The Rolling Stones | :03:46. | :04:01. | |
Luftwaffe pilots got chicken halfway up the river, turned round | :04:02. | :04:08. | |
They weren't going to go any further into London. | :04:09. | :04:14. | |
It's not something that you dwell on because it's just | :04:15. | :04:22. | |
what happened to you and you managed to squeak out the other end, | :04:23. | :04:25. | |
Every experience that you go through from the minute you're born | :04:26. | :04:32. | |
You're hearing things, you're taking in information | :04:33. | :04:39. | |
and you're especially feeling other people's emotions. | :04:40. | :04:42. | |
That does have an effect, even though you don't | :04:43. | :04:45. | |
If I walk down a hotel corridor and there's some old war movie | :04:46. | :04:52. | |
playing and I hear it through the door and | :04:53. | :04:54. | |
..the hair on the back of my | :04:55. | :05:00. | |
MUSIC: Street Fighting Man by The Rolling Stones | :05:01. | :05:21. | |
Dad enlisted, you know, and got blown up in the army. | :05:22. | :05:53. | |
He got mortared D-Day, or soon after. | :05:54. | :05:59. | |
Mum was driving bread vans and she had never | :06:00. | :06:01. | |
You know, "Here's another locking loaf of Hovis." | :06:02. | :06:14. | |
MUSIC: Factory Girl by The Rolling Stones | :06:15. | :06:38. | |
WINSTON CHURCHILL: At 2.41am, Grand Admiral Doenitz, | :06:39. | :07:07. | |
the designated head of the German state, signed the act | :07:08. | :07:11. | |
MUSIC: The Last Time by The Andrew Oldham Orchestra | :07:12. | :07:24. | |
The minute the war was over, Churchill was voted out. | :07:25. | :07:28. | |
Security from war, food, houses, clothing, employment, | :07:29. | :07:47. | |
leisure and social security for all must come before | :07:48. | :07:49. | |
We have shown that we can organise the resources of the | :07:50. | :07:56. | |
There was a feeling that there was a need for change and you kind | :07:57. | :08:04. | |
My dad's side of the family were staunch socialists, | :08:05. | :08:36. | |
Apparently arrived out of the West Country | :08:37. | :08:40. | |
My grandfather was a mate of Keir Hardie. | :08:41. | :08:52. | |
And my grandmother was a mayor of Walthamstow on the Labour ticket. | :08:53. | :09:44. | |
Let's go forward into this fight in this year it of William Blake. | :09:45. | :10:26. | |
For a couple more years, we must go short. | :10:27. | :10:28. | |
Here's the ration for one book being readied. | :10:29. | :10:31. | |
And there's your ration spread out in all its glory. | :10:32. | :10:33. | |
So many babies have been born lately, they've had to get busy | :10:34. | :11:13. | |
You'll go there one day and meet Mick. | :11:14. | :11:23. | |
I lived in different parts of Dartford. | :11:24. | :11:35. | |
I think I would say I had a real affection for the joint. | :11:36. | :11:38. | |
It's a stick-up joint and it still is. | :11:39. | :11:55. | |
They have a tunnel now and guys with uniforms who take the money, | :11:56. | :11:58. | |
but in the old days, you had to come down East Hill, | :11:59. | :12:01. | |
There'd be a bunch of guys with stagecoaches. | :12:02. | :12:04. | |
They would routinely have a bag and toss it beside the toll because, | :12:05. | :12:08. | |
if they didn't do that, there'd be a flare shot up, they'd | :12:09. | :12:11. | |
MUSIC: You Got The Silver by The Rolling Stones | :12:12. | :12:28. | |
The trouble is, it isn't always pleasant to have to be a good boy. | :12:29. | :13:03. | |
A little guy - I mean, he was only about five foot five, | :13:04. | :13:10. | |
# A poor man's made out of muscle and blood | :13:11. | :13:18. | |
# Another day older and deeper in debt... | :13:19. | :13:42. | |
I had to do leap frogs, do this, you know, | :13:43. | :13:44. | |
# Whoa, you've been digging my potatoes... | :13:45. | :13:50. | |
He wanted to teach me certain, you know, little | :13:51. | :13:52. | |
# Well, you've been digging my potatoes... | :13:53. | :14:03. | |
Even though he'd got his leg half blown off in the war, he recovered | :14:04. | :14:07. | |
There was a massive scar that went right up the thigh. | :14:08. | :14:11. | |
He said, "The war, I don't want to talk about it, boy." | :14:12. | :14:21. | |
When I was growing up, he played it straight | :14:22. | :14:27. | |
as straight as straight as straight, you know. | :14:28. | :14:33. | |
He worked for General Electric, Osram's, you know, making tubes. | :14:34. | :14:38. | |
His mentality came from the Depression in the '30s. | :14:39. | :14:41. | |
There was a certain distance between us. | :14:42. | :14:57. | |
But I also knew he had a very deep heart and I also knew that he had | :14:58. | :15:01. | |
I mean, I got very few, "Well done, son." | :15:02. | :15:05. | |
But then I realised that he's working so damn hard, | :15:06. | :15:07. | |
My mum, on the other hand, was very subversive. | :15:08. | :15:18. | |
# I met a cowboy riding the range one day... | :15:19. | :15:26. | |
From her remarks and her piss-taking, I got some | :15:27. | :15:28. | |
Mother loved to sing around the house, she was like a warbler. | :15:29. | :15:41. | |
She knew the dials, she could go from, like, | :15:42. | :15:43. | |
the Light Programme, Ella Fitzgerald, | :15:44. | :15:45. | |
# ..really get the feeling of romance... | :15:46. | :15:57. | |
# And watch the door and in-between our dreams... | :15:58. | :16:03. | |
Pretty much filled the day with good music in my | :16:04. | :16:10. | |
So, I grew up with this, like, music, music, music. | :16:11. | :16:25. | |
Sometimes I remember feeling a little jealous with other families | :16:26. | :16:38. | |
and kids that had brothers and sisters, you know, | :16:39. | :16:40. | |
Adult problems, Mum and Dad arguing about the rent... | :16:41. | :16:45. | |
When you grew up, you didn't really think about it, you just | :16:46. | :16:57. | |
You'd find bits of shrapnel and, you know, you could make a deal | :16:58. | :17:06. | |
on a bit of shrapnel or a cartridge case, you know. | :17:07. | :17:13. | |
What I remember about my favourite bomb hole was some farmer had put | :17:14. | :17:22. | |
A beautiful old horse, you know, put-out, | :17:23. | :17:28. | |
And she'd let us ride and she'd trot us around the bombsite. | :17:29. | :17:42. | |
I know it's a bomb hole and it nearly killed me. | :17:43. | :17:48. | |
I also remember the white horse, you know, and its gentleness. | :17:49. | :18:19. | |
It probably makes you more introverted and you go more into | :18:20. | :18:24. | |
books. I was big on aircraft for a while. | :18:25. | :18:42. | |
He had broken the sound barrier, what is that? It is a big deal, all | :18:43. | :18:54. | |
right? I was always going for Airfix, I tried my best. I liked the | :18:55. | :19:01. | |
glue! And what would you have liked for your birthday? I wanted to break | :19:02. | :19:12. | |
the sound barrier! I thought there was something inside that everybody | :19:13. | :19:16. | |
else would recognise. Don't they realise they have a genius on their | :19:17. | :19:18. | |
hands? My mum's side of my family, | :19:19. | :19:38. | |
the Duprees, were spinners, they were master weavers | :19:39. | :19:41. | |
of silk...and brocade, apparently, in the 17th | :19:42. | :19:43. | |
and 18th century - Basically, all performers | :19:44. | :19:44. | |
of one kind or another. Very strong personalities, | :19:45. | :19:48. | |
very ribald sense of humour, Maybe just runs in the Dupree | :19:49. | :19:51. | |
family. To go there and visit | :19:52. | :20:00. | |
the Duprees was like going to another world, | :20:01. | :20:03. | |
compared to, like, Aunt Joy, she was really | :20:04. | :20:04. | |
larger than life. She was...filled the room | :20:05. | :20:28. | |
when she walked in. I mean, most people visit | :20:29. | :20:32. | |
their aunties and it's the most Yep, up the Seven Sisters Road, | :20:33. | :20:49. | |
seven daughters, and with the wife, So it was a house full | :20:50. | :21:11. | |
of women all the time, which is probably one of the reasons | :21:12. | :21:17. | |
that made him and me so close. The Duprees and the Richards | :21:18. | :21:24. | |
were absolutely two I really enjoyed summer holidays | :21:25. | :21:27. | |
with Mum and Dad. I really liked to watch my mum | :21:28. | :21:49. | |
and dad relax for a few days Because otherwise it | :21:50. | :21:52. | |
was grind, you know, # Ain't got a Cadillac or a big | :21:53. | :21:55. | |
automobile # I'm just a little guy | :21:56. | :22:03. | |
Not a big-time wheel # On my rocking bicycle | :22:04. | :22:09. | |
that's built for two... # We don't care if we're | :22:10. | :22:15. | |
a little bit late... # On my rocking bicycle that's built | :22:16. | :22:20. | |
for two I've got a little iron crate | :22:21. | :22:26. | |
on the back of a tandem. Yeah, they left me too long | :22:27. | :22:42. | |
with the western sun on the back # On my rocking bicycle | :22:43. | :22:46. | |
that's built for two. There was another village right | :22:47. | :23:02. | |
next called Hallsands It was no longer inhabitable, | :23:03. | :23:13. | |
it had collapsed into the sea. But, for a young kid, | :23:14. | :23:22. | |
it was kind of I mean, I make friends | :23:23. | :23:24. | |
pretty easily, you know. I used to get the accent down | :23:25. | :23:39. | |
in a couple of days and I'd pretend WEST COUNTRY ACCENT: | :23:40. | :23:42. | |
"Where you be going?" You were aware that there was a | :23:43. | :24:27. | |
class difference but whether it mattered not was a different thing. | :24:28. | :24:32. | |
It didn't bother mum and dad too much, they just liked to do what | :24:33. | :24:35. | |
they wanted to do. They liked to play tennis. Tennis is a | :24:36. | :24:44. | |
middle-class game. Oh, I say, smashing cricket stroke! I never had | :24:45. | :24:52. | |
any feeling at Bexley tennis club that there was any class difference | :24:53. | :24:57. | |
just because you had a car rather than a bike. In fact, sometimes the | :24:58. | :25:02. | |
other way around, they admired us biking in. My game and set! The | :25:03. | :25:18. | |
phrase when I was growing up was, before the war... Like the Golden | :25:19. | :25:21. | |
age. Everybody was missing the kind of | :25:22. | :25:39. | |
camaraderie that they had during the war. Friendship and, we are all in | :25:40. | :25:47. | |
this together. In a way they almost missed the damn thing. You got a lot | :25:48. | :25:55. | |
of love and affection but not a lot of things. | :25:56. | :26:08. | |
My birthday being 18th December, this is a week before Christmas Day. | :26:09. | :26:11. | |
I remember aunties, because they had a great sense of humour, | :26:12. | :26:14. | |
they'd send me a left sock for my birthday... | :26:15. | :26:16. | |
..and I'd get the right one for Christmas, you know. | :26:17. | :26:18. | |
You couldn't stuff yourself with sweets | :26:19. | :26:25. | |
Probably why we're still so skinny, the Stones, you know. | :26:26. | :26:30. | |
You treasured your half an ounce of humbugs, aniseed balls. | :26:31. | :26:40. | |
But if it's not there, you don't miss it. | :26:41. | :26:44. | |
The last thing to come off British rationing was sugar. | :26:45. | :26:51. | |
# Happy days are here again... | :26:52. | :27:03. | |
Everybody had been saving up pennies and stuff for ages. | :27:04. | :27:07. | |
So you'd go rushing round every possible sweet shop in town. | :27:08. | :27:11. | |
"I've got money!" you know. | :27:12. | :27:12. | |
So it was kind of like rationing again, for a few days. | :27:13. | :27:21. | |
MUSIC: You Can't Always Get What You Want by The Rolling Stones | :27:22. | :27:34. | |
If you ban something, you want it. | :27:35. | :27:51. | |
There's an automatic reaction in human beings. | :27:52. | :27:56. | |
You say you can't do this and then I got to do it, you know. | :27:57. | :28:01. | |
Careful watch is kept on the children's teeth for any | :28:02. | :28:04. | |
decay or irregularities, and, when necessary, | :28:05. | :28:05. | |
# All I want for Christmas is my two front teeth... | :28:06. | :28:12. | |
You couldn't scare me if you come to me with a gun. | :28:13. | :28:15. | |
They were pretty rough when we were growing up. | :28:16. | :28:27. | |
They were all out of the Army, and it was just like | :28:28. | :28:30. | |
Mine were ripped out with an old wrench. | :28:31. | :28:34. | |
We used to bicycle to the bank of the Thames. | :28:35. | :29:01. | |
We used to go down there, very dangerous area, very fascinating. | :29:02. | :29:03. | |
It's not called Gravesend for nothing! | :29:04. | :29:14. | |
One day we got to this pillbox, a lot of flies buzzing in there. | :29:15. | :29:18. | |
So we got out and we thought nothing of it. | :29:19. | :29:27. | |
Now, I sort of say, "Why didn't we, sort | :29:28. | :29:31. | |
There were also army deserters still living down there by the banks. I | :29:32. | :30:02. | |
got shot in the ours with a BB gun. You would go to the station, Penny | :30:03. | :30:29. | |
for the guy. A measly amount, wouldn't get much for that! But it | :30:30. | :30:39. | |
was a good try. Anything to set fire to something. There was a fireball | :30:40. | :30:49. | |
at the fireworks factory? The whole damn thing blew up, massive | :30:50. | :30:58. | |
explosion. It was just gunpowder and it all went up in one Big Bang. All | :30:59. | :31:06. | |
of the fumes... Nothing to do with me! | :31:07. | :31:15. | |
We used to live at the back of a greengrocer's store | :31:16. | :31:18. | |
A couple of mates and me, we just got into it, | :31:19. | :31:22. | |
you know, and got covered in it, we covered the walls, | :31:23. | :31:26. | |
we covered the whole bloody garden in it. | :31:27. | :31:31. | |
My grandmother, she's furious when I get back and she pretended | :31:32. | :31:34. | |
to go out and make a phone call and said, "I'm calling | :31:35. | :31:37. | |
I'm on my knees, I'm it's him... | :31:38. | :31:54. | |
I'm dying. | :31:55. | :31:59. | |
It is sometimes a terrible thing to be a little boy. | :32:00. | :32:01. | |
At that moment, the idea of being separated and torn | :32:02. | :32:04. | |
away and put in a home or something was like... | :32:05. | :32:06. | |
And she kept at it for an hour or two. | :32:07. | :32:10. | |
It was the most horrific day of my life. | :32:11. | :32:17. | |
When Dad came home, he said, "I've calmed her down, | :32:18. | :32:23. | |
My mum wasn't big on pets, she killed my mouse. And the cat. I put | :32:24. | :33:00. | |
a sign on her bedroom door saying murderer! | :33:01. | :33:13. | |
Pets were not in the game and I loved them. | :33:14. | :33:35. | |
Let's look at the neighbourhoods and see how that is arranged. | :33:36. | :33:53. | |
At least that's my feeling, you know, from Mum and Dad. | :33:54. | :33:58. | |
It had only just been built and it was like | :33:59. | :34:05. | |
Suddenly, you're with this bunch of people you don't know | :34:06. | :34:13. | |
and you all have to sort of form a community of some kind. | :34:14. | :34:27. | |
So, yeah, I won't say that you felt particularly secure there. | :34:28. | :34:30. | |
But you did feel that everybody else was in the same bloody boat. | :34:31. | :34:52. | |
Now that you're seven, you'll be going to this school. | :34:53. | :34:54. | |
Because of the time of year I was born, I was always in a class | :34:55. | :34:58. | |
So I was always three inches shorter than everybody else. | :34:59. | :35:02. | |
So I always had to deal with bigger boys. | :35:03. | :35:06. | |
Half the time I ran away like a yellow... | :35:07. | :35:08. | |
And then I got smart and made friends with a big bloke | :35:09. | :35:14. | |
And he'd walk home with me and beat the sods off. | :35:15. | :35:33. | |
I know how terrifying it can be to expect | :35:34. | :35:35. | |
All I could concentrate on was, "How do I get out of taking a beating?" | :35:36. | :35:52. | |
Keith grazed his knee badly last night. | :35:53. | :36:07. | |
Why's everybody always pickin' on me? | :36:08. | :36:24. | |
Some teachers gave you a feeling of openness and that things could get | :36:25. | :36:31. | |
better. Luckily some teachers made you feel good about knowing things | :36:32. | :36:37. | |
rather than shoving it down your throat. Then you had other guys out | :36:38. | :36:45. | |
of the Army who saw the kids as another bunch of people to push | :36:46. | :36:51. | |
about. Square bashing, not the most sympathetic bunch of people to learn | :36:52. | :36:57. | |
things from. I wasn't happy with my education even as a kid, I thought | :36:58. | :37:02. | |
it was shabby and just going through the motions. I always got grades C | :37:03. | :37:11. | |
and D, they didn't like my attitude. I always wanted to know more than I | :37:12. | :37:20. | |
was being taught. And I found out far more by going to the public | :37:21. | :37:21. | |
library. Ain't nobody teaching me nothing | :37:22. | :37:29. | |
that I didn't know already. I was into the Dandy and obviously | :37:30. | :37:49. | |
the Eagle. Dan dare, the Mick on. I was heavily into that. -- Dan Dare, | :37:50. | :38:07. | |
the Mekon. The whole idea of space travel. You thought it would be | :38:08. | :38:15. | |
another thousand years but in actual fact it would only be ten or 20. | :38:16. | :38:27. | |
Saturday morning pictures, big deal. Down at the Dartford Beaumont. | :38:28. | :38:48. | |
Frisking pagans were concealed weapons is an art the manager has | :38:49. | :38:52. | |
picked up after years of watching well blessed melodramas. Roy Rogers, | :38:53. | :38:57. | |
I've got to say, if I had a kilo that has got to be it. She is riding | :38:58. | :39:10. | |
this beautiful pony and he's got a guitar. And he rips everybody's as. | :39:11. | :39:26. | |
I'd like to be right. Captain Marvel. A bad episode, you can see | :39:27. | :39:30. | |
why. Always loved a good sea adventure, I | :39:31. | :39:41. | |
still do. And then you realise you could | :39:42. | :40:02. | |
almost be won, free of normal constraints, but either I Bell I | :40:03. | :40:09. | |
take my chances. And it sort of give you some fortitude to take your | :40:10. | :40:22. | |
chances. I had to wait and see, it was always an option. It was | :40:23. | :40:26. | |
escaped, when they are not looking I'm going to run away! The merchant | :40:27. | :40:34. | |
Navy were there, you could jump a boat has a cabin boy. You would have | :40:35. | :40:37. | |
to grow up the hard way. Sundays were like an expanse of | :40:38. | :41:34. | |
boredom and death. Boredom is a sin and I'm not a big one for sin. There | :41:35. | :41:44. | |
has got to be something you can do to think of. I've got to go to | :41:45. | :41:53. | |
church. I was very cynical about it, quite | :41:54. | :42:12. | |
honestly. I just didn't get that Christian feeling. Basically because | :42:13. | :42:18. | |
I wasn't brought up that way. None of my family were at all interested | :42:19. | :42:25. | |
in the established religions, they despise them. In the name of Jesus | :42:26. | :42:33. | |
Christ of Nazareth, I pray you to behold now, amen. Do you feel any | :42:34. | :42:39. | |
better now? You'll make the job as witnesses would come round on | :42:40. | :42:47. | |
knock-on outdoor. And I would be the one to open it and my mum says we | :42:48. | :42:49. | |
don't want none, and buying. What do you want to do on your | :42:50. | :43:06. | |
school holidays? Stay with grandad. I seem to have been the only boy he | :43:07. | :43:12. | |
didn't have, so for me he was more like a friend than a grandfather. I | :43:13. | :43:18. | |
loved him for his humour, he was just generous. Sometimes he would | :43:19. | :43:24. | |
take me out just to get away from all the women. He was a saxophone | :43:25. | :43:35. | |
player. But in the First World War he got gassed. My father says that | :43:36. | :43:45. | |
he got gassed that he couldn't go any more and he didn't have the win | :43:46. | :43:52. | |
for the sax Swede at the violin. He can does pick up the violin and | :43:53. | :44:07. | |
plate. He had a dance band. He used to rock the US places with the code | :44:08. | :44:11. | |
and stuff, they saw him coming with a little neckerchief on, pretending | :44:12. | :44:30. | |
to be a cowboy. He loved to perform. When was the first time you saw live | :44:31. | :44:35. | |
music? You'll might probably a wedding. There was a live band | :44:36. | :44:45. | |
playing in front of you. First off the guys at the foot taller than | :44:46. | :44:49. | |
everybody because there is a stage. That helps! To be three feet taller | :44:50. | :45:01. | |
than everybody else. And it gives you a certain sense of | :45:02. | :45:13. | |
possibilities. Member when you were a kid? You would look in the shop | :45:14. | :45:18. | |
window and the puppies. Gus had a dog called Mr Thompson, in fact the | :45:19. | :45:22. | |
filming was Mr Thompson works because every time you said Mr | :45:23. | :45:24. | |
Thompson the dog would work. He just took me about London, one | :45:25. | :45:49. | |
minute I would be in Oxford Street, the next minutes chatting cross and | :45:50. | :45:51. | |
the next minute we would be in hybrid. He was -- it was an | :45:52. | :46:03. | |
education. You would see the funniest thing on any street corner. | :46:04. | :46:12. | |
I know a lot about all London. Folk just wondering about. My vision and | :46:13. | :46:26. | |
my senses of London are called tar and washing. Bill Shippen was worth | :46:27. | :46:37. | |
money. My dad would pay me to follow the Gypsy carts. They were still | :46:38. | :46:46. | |
burning coal could call, absolutely filthy. The whole place. Covered in | :46:47. | :46:52. | |
grime. And there was a lot of fog, green | :46:53. | :47:06. | |
and hazy. That was London for me. He would take me into music shops | :47:07. | :47:33. | |
but we would always going round the back, we never went in the front | :47:34. | :47:40. | |
door. It was being like -- it would be like getting led into Aladdin 's | :47:41. | :47:44. | |
cave. And he would just sit and perch me on a shelf with a cup of | :47:45. | :47:48. | |
tea and a basket and I would watch people build medical instruments. | :47:49. | :47:59. | |
-- musical instruments. Glue bubbling and they are sticking | :48:00. | :48:10. | |
together. And then he would do his business. | :48:11. | :48:26. | |
Once it was a beautiful summer night, we were on Primrose Hill | :48:27. | :48:41. | |
where you could look over the city. And we went under this tree and he | :48:42. | :48:44. | |
said why don't we just sit there for a minute? And we both just crashed | :48:45. | :48:51. | |
out! What that you all over us and going bloody hell we have got to get | :48:52. | :49:02. | |
home. He teased me with a guitar. I couldn't reach it. He said you keep | :49:03. | :49:13. | |
looking at that. It is beautiful. When you can reach it, then you can | :49:14. | :49:21. | |
try and plate. And he did this for, I don't know, two or three or four | :49:22. | :49:26. | |
years until one day I got smart and pull the chair up! And took it down. | :49:27. | :49:33. | |
Figured it out. And he showed me the first few notes of Malluch winner. | :49:34. | :49:53. | |
When he came back I was playing it to him and he looked down at me with | :49:54. | :50:01. | |
a big smile on his face and he said let me play at. And then he let me | :50:02. | :50:08. | |
have the guitar. To me it was the prize of a century. | :50:09. | :50:23. | |
One day, this Billy came up, and he was the big boy in school. | :50:24. | :50:37. | |
..Bruce Lee sort of moves that made it. | :50:38. | :50:40. | |
I was lucky, I think he slipped, and I just saw red. | :50:41. | :50:43. | |
And shoved his neck into the flower beds. | :50:44. | :50:48. | |
After that, I was a protector of other, more vulnerable kids. | :50:49. | :50:56. | |
I never capitalised on my fame on that. | :50:57. | :50:58. | |
I just took care of kids that were scared of other | :50:59. | :51:03. | |
bullies and went, "You're with me, you're cool." | :51:04. | :51:07. | |
Because I suddenly became, "Don't screw with that man." | :51:08. | :51:21. | |
I always feel sorry for the building and away. The guy has a problem. -- | :51:22. | :51:29. | |
for the bully in the way. For the first time in history, | :51:30. | :51:57. | |
through the medium of television, the coronation will be witnessed on | :51:58. | :52:02. | |
television sets. We did not have one. Very kind neighbours would | :52:03. | :52:07. | |
leave the curtains open and let us kids, we couldn't hear anything, it | :52:08. | :52:13. | |
was all silent. Martha and you'll and stuff like that. Thanks to Mr | :52:14. | :52:24. | |
Steadman. Anybody there? I am Julie and this is my friend Sam. Something | :52:25. | :52:30. | |
about audio comedy. I like the girls who do... It is still one of my | :52:31. | :52:34. | |
favourites. The construct, they would blast | :52:35. | :52:54. | |
fresh air. How many sexes are there? To! That kind of humour was around | :52:55. | :53:00. | |
on the streets but had never been expressed in the media before. Or | :53:01. | :53:03. | |
actually allowed. He will go to school the next day after the show | :53:04. | :53:08. | |
and everybody would have the line down and everybody would say, you | :53:09. | :53:16. | |
can get the word, you know! It was a collective feeling throughout the | :53:17. | :53:20. | |
whole country. You could join in and laugh. Just as independent | :53:21. | :53:34. | |
television came. Cubicle, kicked, Master control. Robin Hood was | :53:35. | :53:46. | |
great. Ronnie Wood, Ronnie Wood, with his band of men! Everybody | :53:47. | :53:56. | |
reacted to the billboards. By this, by that. They were checking it out | :53:57. | :54:12. | |
here. The Milky bars are only! It was capitalism. Suddenly it was | :54:13. | :54:21. | |
staring you in the face. The mass of consumption. 1212. -- want, want. | :54:22. | :54:31. | |
Get, get. Daz. The Daz white knights are | :54:32. | :54:50. | |
coming your way with big cash prizes. It could be at your house, | :54:51. | :55:05. | |
we're off! My mum was at Hotpoint, she was amazing at flogging off | :55:06. | :55:15. | |
Hotpoint. She would do a demonstration and when I was at | :55:16. | :55:20. | |
school I would do mums accent. It was a performance. Mum was actually | :55:21. | :55:29. | |
a sterner one dress for a while. Because they want it was piling up. | :55:30. | :55:34. | |
I got a message from my mum saying he must be filthy by now, send me | :55:35. | :55:41. | |
your clothes back! And so Mick and Brian, we centre the call was so she | :55:42. | :55:46. | |
could watch the in front of all these people in the court! She was a | :55:47. | :55:52. | |
great mum. If mum wasn't great, it must be a rough way to grow up. | :55:53. | :56:09. | |
I am proud of my old mum and she ain't half proud of me! You know I'm | :56:10. | :56:19. | |
almost grown, yet I'm doing right school. They said I broke the rules. | :56:20. | :56:28. | |
I never been in trouble, I don't read around too much. Dartford Tech | :56:29. | :56:35. | |
was strictly male, I was good at subjects because the teacher was | :56:36. | :56:39. | |
good. Carpentry, yes, metalwork I hated. Some people just get the hard | :56:40. | :56:46. | |
on against you. Take it nice and steady. What are you waiting for? | :56:47. | :56:50. | |
Don't get your finger stuck in there. The girls Grammar School was | :56:51. | :57:04. | |
the opposite of our school. There has been a bridge over the at one | :57:05. | :57:07. | |
time. We got the message. Also, we all expected to go in the | :57:08. | :57:26. | |
bloody army. Conscription was still on. You are all expected to go and | :57:27. | :57:32. | |
peel potatoes. You has to factor that into your own life at 18, you | :57:33. | :57:41. | |
went in the Army. All orders must be obeyed without question at all | :57:42. | :57:49. | |
times. Ludicrous, the waste to get out of it. Get back, get back, get | :57:50. | :58:07. | |
back! Forward, March! Pretends to be gay or something, they would say | :58:08. | :58:08. | |
you're out! There was out of a friend of mine | :58:09. | :58:20. | |
who said I am donning the Scouts and I said I will come along. Follow me, | :58:21. | :58:32. | |
follow me! I got all the knocks and had got bad as all over me, with an | :58:33. | :58:38. | |
armoured. I know how to light a fire, I could set you on fire right | :58:39. | :58:39. | |
now! Suddenly I am a patrol leader. And that is where I realised that | :58:40. | :59:10. | |
I could pull other cats into it I could motivate them, | :59:11. | :59:13. | |
give them a feeling, You know, if we're going to do this, | :59:14. | :59:17. | |
it's got to be the best. It's part of running a band | :59:18. | :59:22. | |
and being in a band. It was a transitional | :59:23. | :59:24. | |
period, really. You know, I'd go home | :59:25. | :59:26. | |
at night and play guitar. Our choirmaster, Jake Clair, | :59:27. | :59:28. | |
he'd been at Oxford or Cambridge, He was a damn good teacher | :59:29. | :59:39. | |
about music, about singing. We had another guy called Terry, | :59:40. | :59:50. | |
we had perfect sopranos. We could "hallelujah" | :59:51. | :59:58. | |
with the best, man, you know? But we were also the biggest | :59:59. | :00:01. | |
reprobates in school. Hallelujah with the | :00:02. | :00:04. | |
cassock and everything. # You were part of this team | :00:05. | :00:12. | |
and you got to go to London and sing # Believe it or not, | :00:13. | :00:21. | |
I sang in front of the Queen. # You can't always get | :00:22. | :00:27. | |
what you want. # You know your voice | :00:28. | :00:30. | |
is going to break and then... HE IMITATES VOICE BREAKING | :00:31. | :00:33. | |
I still remember old Jake Clair, a tear in his eye | :00:34. | :00:38. | |
that he had to fire us. We'd won him all these goddamn | :00:39. | :00:40. | |
medals and shields and stuff... The voice breaks and you get put | :00:41. | :00:57. | |
down a year because you haven't done enough math, you haven't | :00:58. | :01:02. | |
done enough physics. So that the thanks you get - | :01:03. | :01:05. | |
sitting in a class full of kids a year younger than | :01:06. | :01:09. | |
you for another year. That was the first thump | :01:10. | :01:12. | |
of authority and what they can do There you developed a hatred | :01:13. | :01:22. | |
for the Establishment. MUSIC: The Last Time | :01:23. | :01:29. | |
by The Rolling Stones You had to reassess, even at that | :01:30. | :01:41. | |
age, a whole new way 'That's when it started to ferment.' | :01:42. | :01:43. | |
Either you're going to do as you're told for the rest of your life | :01:44. | :01:54. | |
or you're going to I'm getting out of here, | :01:55. | :01:56. | |
one way or another. This is Radio Luxembourg, | :01:57. | :02:04. | |
your station of the stars. That was the signal that, | :02:05. | :02:12. | |
if you positioned the damn thing in the right place, | :02:13. | :02:24. | |
you'd suddenly get Little Richard. # I'm ready Ready, ready, | :02:25. | :02:29. | |
ready, teddy, I'm ready # Ready, ready, teddy # I'm ready, ready, | :02:30. | :02:31. | |
# It expressed everything you wanted to express but didn't | :02:32. | :02:35. | |
A sense of freedom, a sense that there was another life | :02:36. | :02:41. | |
between going to school and going to locking work. | :02:42. | :02:43. | |
It was like the world went Technicolor. | :02:44. | :02:50. | |
This motion picture was photographed in gorgeous, | :02:51. | :02:52. | |
Before rock and roll, it was all black-and-white. | :02:53. | :03:05. | |
These boys have reached the stage of adolescence. | :03:06. | :03:07. | |
We sometimes find adolescents rather irritating but they're | :03:08. | :03:09. | |
The need tactful handling and a good deal of sympathetic guidance. | :03:10. | :03:16. | |
Suddenly, everything was aimed at teenagers. | :03:17. | :03:20. | |
Music: The Spotnicks Theme by The Spotnicks The first time that | :03:21. | :03:40. | |
money had realised what a market there was there. | :03:41. | :03:43. | |
Suddenly the eyes lit up in some advertising agent. At the time you | :03:44. | :04:10. | |
saw that it was just something new. We weren't saying about some wicked | :04:11. | :04:20. | |
desire. Before that they didn't bother. | :04:21. | :04:21. | |
You were either a kid or you were grown up | :04:22. | :04:24. | |
and there was this space in-between that seemed to be ignored when, | :04:25. | :04:26. | |
in actual fact, it's probably the most important | :04:27. | :04:28. | |
Spike was my mate and we were just determined to get expelled. | :04:29. | :04:33. | |
Cross-country, we used to take a smoke and work our way | :04:34. | :04:37. | |
in for the last third of a mile, and I'd come in around a sort | :04:38. | :04:40. | |
of comfy fifth, but they knew what we were up to. | :04:41. | :04:48. | |
You know, we thought for sure you'd get expelled for, like, | :04:49. | :04:51. | |
tripping up a teacher and going, "Whoops." | :04:52. | :04:54. | |
I would be called to the headmaster's office | :04:55. | :04:55. | |
and they'd go, "Well, Richards... | :04:56. | :05:04. | |
GIRLS SCREAM The first live act I remember going to see was Joe | :05:05. | :05:19. | |
# No-one else could catch me # On the hop # Baby, | :05:20. | :05:25. | |
you're the only one # Who ever made me blow my top. | :05:26. | :05:28. | |
The all thought they had some kind of gimmick. Billy Fury made a great | :05:29. | :05:59. | |
record. I got somebody new, and she ate me | :06:00. | :06:24. | |
like you, wait back in those days they were warned by Bill Schechter | :06:25. | :06:29. | |
promoters. They would break you are a student turn up. But at least he | :06:30. | :06:35. | |
was up there playing! And that's all you wanted to do. | :06:36. | :06:37. | |
You wanted to be up there, three feet higher than anybody else | :06:38. | :06:40. | |
and have people say, "Yeah, I like that." | :06:41. | :06:42. | |
Then there was the stuff about Teddy boys, they always look like | :06:43. | :07:03. | |
grown-ups to me. They were a little older. I was interested in the | :07:04. | :07:09. | |
switchblades. They were ripping up cinema seats and a lot of that was | :07:10. | :07:13. | |
just yobs. But at the same time, you can have | :07:14. | :07:28. | |
admired them because they were expressing something. Rather than | :07:29. | :07:36. | |
just playing the game. Have an elephant trunk and you forget. I | :07:37. | :07:41. | |
couldn't afford the club anyway, but the tight pants. | :07:42. | :07:42. | |
I used to wear two pairs of trousers to school. | :07:43. | :07:46. | |
Very uncomfortable all day, I'll tell you. | :07:47. | :07:49. | |
But one skin-tight and then the regulation flannel baggies over | :07:50. | :07:51. | |
the top and the minute you got out the school gate, | :07:52. | :07:54. | |
go behind a tree and then you could walk home like... | :07:55. | :08:13. | |
We went to begin up teachers! -- beating up teachers. And for that | :08:14. | :08:25. | |
they did expel us. Eventually we made it. Getting expelled then was | :08:26. | :08:33. | |
about the worst thing that could happen in a man's life. Getting the | :08:34. | :08:45. | |
piece of paper and all, look. I knew I had disappointed very much. I had | :08:46. | :08:53. | |
to redeem myself. My voice broke and I was longer in the choir. I | :08:54. | :08:58. | |
suddenly needed another musical outlet. And I plunged into guitar | :08:59. | :09:08. | |
playing, I dived the deep, deep dive. At the same time, they threw | :09:09. | :09:20. | |
me the biscuit which was like the big one, you expelled, but you're | :09:21. | :09:23. | |
welcome to go to school. MUSIC: Painter Man by The Creation # | :09:24. | :09:35. | |
Went to college, studied art # To be an artist, make a start # Studied | :09:36. | :09:50. | |
hard, gained my degree # But no-one # Art school was a real | :09:51. | :09:53. | |
eye-opener because suddenly you were with people | :09:54. | :09:56. | |
who were artistic in mind. It was a totally different | :09:57. | :09:59. | |
atmosphere and in those two, There was a freedom | :10:00. | :10:06. | |
about art school that was, Suddenly you can wear whatever | :10:07. | :10:11. | |
you want and you can go to life Painting, I wouldn't | :10:12. | :10:28. | |
say, came into it much. I did realise, after the first year, | :10:29. | :10:40. | |
we're not churning out You're being taught | :10:41. | :10:42. | |
how to advertise. # Here was where the money lay # | :10:43. | :10:59. | |
Classic art has had its day. # You can call it art school | :11:00. | :11:03. | |
but really you're being trained You don't really need how to put | :11:04. | :11:11. | |
a nice angle on the gin. There was a bunch of people that | :11:12. | :11:19. | |
came from advertising agencies for, like, one day a week, | :11:20. | :11:25. | |
usually loudmouth BLEEP. Mac, could you emphasise | :11:26. | :11:29. | |
the last word just a little, bring out the fact that | :11:30. | :11:32. | |
the product is good? Guys with bowties and shit, | :11:33. | :11:35. | |
you know. A white-collar and | :11:36. | :11:38. | |
striped blue shirt. By then, you're starting to be able | :11:39. | :11:41. | |
to sense a phony when you see one. Mac, don't lose that | :11:42. | :11:45. | |
nice, easy approach. And you realise that these people | :11:46. | :11:47. | |
are only there to pick up What I did learn | :11:48. | :11:50. | |
was about friendship. Very pleased to make your | :11:51. | :12:05. | |
acquaintance, madam. # YODELLING Everybody | :12:06. | :12:18. | |
was experimenting with their looks. Bam - they just pulled the button | :12:19. | :12:27. | |
and said, "No more conscription." We went bananas, I mean, | :12:28. | :12:44. | |
the whole day. Suddenly, these years | :12:45. | :12:55. | |
opened up for you. A sense of relief that, | :12:56. | :12:59. | |
you know, is really hard to imagine. If you didn't want to go | :13:00. | :13:11. | |
to life classes, you know, Wizz Jones used to come round | :13:12. | :13:17. | |
and play, which was like a miracle, There was a sort of network | :13:18. | :13:25. | |
within the art school world. MUSIC: Transit Blues by Wizz Jones | :13:26. | :13:45. | |
Werner Lammerhirt A lot of good musicians came out of art school | :13:46. | :13:48. | |
but not many good artists. MUSIC: Boogie In My Bones | :13:49. | :13:55. | |
by Laurel Aitken I knew that the music I'd always listened | :13:56. | :14:02. | |
to was black people. # Well, I feel so good # I've got | :14:03. | :14:07. | |
the boogie in my bones... # Well, I feel so good # I've got | :14:08. | :14:16. | |
the boogie in my bones... # Black people would be like, "Hey, | :14:17. | :14:26. | |
you're all right, brother. Without a knowledge of the blues, | :14:27. | :14:28. | |
if you want to be a player and if you want to work with other | :14:29. | :14:53. | |
guys, without that knowledge and without that enthusiasm, | :14:54. | :15:00. | |
you just become a pop BLUES MUSIC I found out | :15:01. | :15:02. | |
there was a really deep, deep blues and the older cats | :15:03. | :15:18. | |
and I started to research back to Muddy Waters, Robert Johnson, | :15:19. | :15:24. | |
Blind Lemon Jefferson, And of course, being young, | :15:25. | :15:27. | |
people tried to come up with more obscure blues | :15:28. | :15:33. | |
than you've ever heard. MUSIC: Cool Drink Of Water Blues | :15:34. | :15:36. | |
by Tommy Johnson # I asked for water # RADIO EFFECT ON VOICE: | :15:37. | :15:39. | |
This one's from 1926. HE IMITATES WHITE NOISE Very nice, | :15:40. | :15:55. | |
the white noise MUSIC: Detroit Jump | :15:56. | :15:57. | |
by Big Maceo There was Kim this I was young, and some | :15:58. | :16:17. | |
of it is pretentiousness. I always hoped that music should be | :16:18. | :16:28. | |
classless and should be MUSIC: Child Of The Moon | :16:29. | :16:30. | |
by The Rolling Stones It was a feeling, late '50s, early '60s, | :16:31. | :16:42. | |
that there was a change coming. Harold Macmillan actually said | :16:43. | :16:45. | |
it but he didn't mean I felt that too but | :16:46. | :16:47. | |
from a different angle. BABY CRIES MUSIC: Jumpin' Jack Flash | :16:48. | :17:07. | |
by The Rolling Stones I certainly felt that my generation | :17:08. | :17:18. | |
and what was happening I was three years of art school, | :17:19. | :17:20. | |
I take this bloody portfolio up I wasn't interested any | :17:21. | :17:57. | |
more in illustration My portfolio was a piece | :17:58. | :18:14. | |
of crap, quite honestly. They look at it and either they're | :18:15. | :18:23. | |
sniggering or muttering... "By the way, Mr Richards, | :18:24. | :18:26. | |
can you make a good cup of tea?" And that's where the hair went up | :18:27. | :18:29. | |
and I went, "Yeah, I can. And I just walked out and threw | :18:30. | :18:32. | |
the fucking whole thing in the rubbish bin downstairs | :18:33. | :18:40. | |
and that's it, you know. PUNCHING AND GRUNTING | :18:41. | :18:50. | |
The guitar just looked at me and I looked at it and I said, | :18:51. | :18:56. | |
"Either you and me get along or I've TRAIN HORN He was on the train | :18:57. | :18:59. | |
with the records. "I know you, "but what you've got | :19:00. | :19:10. | |
under your arm is worth robbing." # Pleased to meet you Hope | :19:11. | :19:17. | |
you guessed my name... # It's only the fact | :19:18. | :19:21. | |
that he was carrying Muddy Waters and Chuck Berry under his arm | :19:22. | :19:24. | |
that we re-hooked, you know, because I've known Mick | :19:25. | :19:29. | |
since I was about four years old... ..but we don't talk | :19:30. | :19:31. | |
about that a lot. MUSIC: Stray Cat Blues | :19:32. | :19:39. | |
by The Rolling Stones # I hear the click-clack of your feet | :19:40. | :19:50. | |
on the stairs # I know you're no scare-eyed honey # There'll be | :19:51. | :19:54. | |
a feast if you just come upstairs # But it's no hanging | :19:55. | :19:59. | |
matter. Suddenly, the Stones were making | :20:00. | :20:00. | |
some bread. I was going to buy them... | :20:01. | :20:38. | |
And I set Mum up in a nice house that she likes | :20:39. | :20:40. | |
and dah-dah... And the weirdest thing | :20:41. | :20:44. | |
being that, | :20:45. | :20:48. |