Sisters in Country: Dolly, Linda and Emmylou


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# Jolene, Jolene Jolene, Jolene... #

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In the mid-'70s, Dolly Parton, the Tennessee mountain girl,

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was Nashville's leading female star.

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Meanwhile, over in California,

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baby boomers were discovering their own kind of country.

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# I don't want your lonely mansion

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# With a tear in every room... #

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Linda Ronstadt, the West Coast country rock chick,

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was the biggest female pop star in America.

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And former folkie Emmylou Harris had gone from student to band leader

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and was taking country to the college crowd.

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# Oh, Amarillo

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# Now he won't come home no more... #

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Three women from different backgrounds,

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with different audiences, but sisters in song.

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# Silver threads and golden needles

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# Cannot mend this heart of mine... #

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Come in here.

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ALL: # Silver threads and golden needles

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# Cannot mend... #

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All of a sudden, it was like, "Oh, my goodness,

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"this is such a great sound!"

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It was like, "Bam!" That sound was there,

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and we just were all kind of shocked by it.

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# Well, he may know where I am sleeping

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# Then perhaps he'll wait for me... #

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Mainstream country had met West Coast cool

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and formed an unlikely alliance.

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'Emmy and Linda were both really shy and introverted girls.'

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Not Dolly. HE LAUGHS

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She was like shot out of a cannon.

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Howdy, partners!

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For Dolly, it was a reaching out into a different audience.

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And for Linda and Emmylou, it was honouring the music of Dolly Parton.

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They could have come from different countries,

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but they all loved mountain music.

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She had this authenticity, with that mountain music, that we both loved.

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# Until the day

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# They lay me

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# Down. #

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'They came from Scotland and Ireland mostly.

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'Plainish people.

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'With dry humour and gunpowder tempers.

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'Sentimental, too.

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'Lovers of song and respecters of God.'

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Dolly Rebecca Parton was born and raised in East Tennessee,

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the fourth of 12 children. Growing up dirt poor,

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she had big ambitions and dreamt of becoming a star.

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She wrote her first song aged seven, and music was her route to the top.

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There's that mountain sound that those people sing.

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And that's just built in my whole body.

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Those old mountain twirls and twists and things,

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it's just part of my Smoky Mountain DNA.

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In 1964, the 18-year-old Dolly headed to Nashville

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in the attempt to become a country star.

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Everybody knew the Grand Ole Opry came from Nashville.

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It's kind of all the people that want to be on Broadway, it's like,

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"We want to go to New York."

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So if you're a country singer, you want to go to Nashville.

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To much of the rest of America, the South was stuck in the past.

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The home of hillbillies, where girl singers were second-class citizens.

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Now, ladies and gentlemen, we'd like you to meet our little lady singer.

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She's an excellent songwriter, an outstanding artist.

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A very devoted wife and mother. A wonderful cook.

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She has a voice like an angel and a face to match.

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Let's meet and greet our little lady singer, Loretta Lynn. Here she is.

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# I don't know your name

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# I wouldn't know your face

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# But you're out with the one I love

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# Out there someplace... #

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I loved Nashville because that's where I knew my dreams were

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going to come true, if they were going to come true at all,

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they were going to start there.

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Dolly's combination of homespun songwriting and showbiz smarts

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made her popular with the Nashville audience,

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and she scooped a record deal.

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# Well, a good ways down the railroad track

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# There was this little old rundown shack

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# And in it lived a man I'd never seen

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# Folks said he was a mean and a vicious man

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# And you better not set foot on his land

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# But I didn't think nobody could be that mean... #

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I think Dolly always wanted to be a star,

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which I found incredibly sweet and innocent.

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You know, because she's done it. In an extraordinary way.

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But it comes from a place that's...

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When you're young and you have those dreams,

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and she was able to keep hold of that.

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'And now, in colour, it's The Porter Wagoner Show,

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'starring Porter Wagoner and the Wagonmasters,

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'with Speck Rhodes and Dolly Parton.'

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# We're so glad to see you Kinda wondered how you been... #

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And in 1967, Dolly became the girl singer

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for one of Nashville's biggest stars.

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Thank you, Dolly, and all the boys there, for helping me out.

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Dolly Parton had cut her teeth

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as the featured female artist in The Porter Wagoner Show.

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It was a very traditional type of role for a female artist.

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Often they weren't headliners. Even, you know, by the late 1960s,

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only a handful of female artists had really headlined their own show.

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# It's a lesson too late for the learning

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# Made of sand, made of sand

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# In the wink of an eye my soul is turning

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# In your hand, in your hand... #

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Over on the East Coast, 19-year-old folk music lover

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Emmylou Harris was getting switched on to the music of this country duo.

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My brother was a big country music fan.

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And he said, "I want to play you something."

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And it was Dolly and Porter,

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but they were doing a Tom Paxton song, The Last Thing On My Mind.

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# I could have loved you better

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# Didn't mean to be unkind

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# You know that was the last thing on my mind... #

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I loved those duets with Porter.

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And of course Dolly's voice on that is so...

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When she sang with Porter,

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it was such a beautiful springboard for her voice.

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# My coat of many colours

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# That my papa made for me

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# Made only from rags

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# But I wore it so proudly... #

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When a young Linda Ronstadt visited Nashville,

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she discovered Dolly was smarter than she chose to appear.

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I was invited to the Grand Ole Opry when I was in Tennessee,

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and Dolly was on stage

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singing with about a million petticoats in her skirt,

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just stacked out to there, her hair all up to there and her high heels.

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And she just looked like a beautiful Christmas tree.

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I mean, it was just a sight to behold, she was gorgeous.

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# I know we had no money

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# But I was rich as I could be

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# In my coat of many colours

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# My momma made for me

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# Made just for me. #

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She said, "Don't think I'm dumb just because I'm so country."

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It had not occurred to me that she was dumb. Anything but, you know?

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Dolly Parton was the Queen of Nashville, and now she had

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her eyes on a bigger prize, and nothing was going to stop her.

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She was definitely on the rise as a female country star.

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But the wider pop world didn't really know about her so much then.

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Up until this point in history,

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country music is sort of by and for adults.

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The music wasn't attractive to the vast youth market.

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'One, two, three, four!'

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FANS SCREAM

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While Dolly was conquering Nashville, the Beatles were

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igniting the rest of America, and a new generation was emerging.

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'But the pandemonium created by the 3,000 teenagers on hand

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'to greet the sortie of Britain's bristling Beatles

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'is something one might expect from a collision of planets.'

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Born in Arizona in 1946, the same year as Dolly Parton,

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Linda Ronstadt was a classic '60s kid who'd grown up on '50s radio.

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Across the border in Mexico were these huge transmitters,

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they could transmit stations that came from Tennessee

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or came from Chicago, came from New York.

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They would have been illegal if they had been on this side of the line, but they were across in Mexico.

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I listened to black gospel, white gospel, country music, rock'n'roll.

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And then of course tons of Mexican music,

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because we were right there on the border, my family is Mexican.

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Everybody in my family played and sang,

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including my grandmother and my great-aunts.

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They'd all, you know, play anything from operatic arias

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to Mexican love songs.

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My sister would sing the latest Hank Williams songs,

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or the latest rock'n'roll songs.

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It was really great, I liked that. Very eclectic.

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Linda left Tucson in 1964 after dropping out of college at 18,

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and went west, like so many of her generation.

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'60s kid Linda was drawn to Los Angeles and the Troubadour,

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which might as well have been

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a million miles away from the Grand Ole Opry.

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It was just the place to be seen and to play.

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And the main reason was that it had open mic night.

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# So you want to be a rock'n'roll star?

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# Then listen now to what I say

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# Just get an electric guitar

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# And take some time... #

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You could go and sort of audition and sing and perform

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on an open mic night, you know?

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And get a job there opening for some bigger act.

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# Then it's time to go downtown... #

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Everyone assumes when there's any kind of musical movement

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that the members of it all necessarily hang out together

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and know each other, and sing together and play together,

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and often it's not really the case,

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but in LA it was the case. CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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Everybody was there -

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Joni Mitchell, Neil Young, Carole King, James Taylor, The Byrds...

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There was this huge hodgepodge of great writers,

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and everybody that came into LA would drift through the Troubadour.

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It was at the Troubadour that Linda's band, the Stone Poneys,

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were signed after being spotted performing at a hoot.

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# You and I travel to the beat of a different drum

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# Oh, can't you tell by the way I run

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# Every time you make eyes at me?

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# It's true... #

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It was Linda that stood out.

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Somebody had told me that there was this amazing girl singer

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who was, like, had this voice of extraordinary power and beauty,

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and also, you know, sang in bare feet and short shorts

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and was incredibly hot, and it was all true.

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That was the first time I heard her sing,

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and I was completely blown away.

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# Saying I'm not ready for any person... #

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The main things that stand out about Linda's voice,

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and I think it's one of the iconic voices in American music

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of our time, is the power.

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# Oh, goodbye

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# I'll be leaving I see no sense... #

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For me, this is not a very large girl.

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She's a small girl and yet her voice is beyond powerful.

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That's what struck me about hearing her voice for the first time.

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I was just drawn to it.

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Ladies and gentlemen, the Troubadour

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is proud to present Linda Ronstadt.

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APPLAUSE

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In 1968, Linda left the Stone Poneys and set about finding her niche.

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The record company Capitol was a little confused about

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should she go pure country or should she do rock?

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So combining those two things helped Linda, I think,

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fuse the elements of country and rock into her style,

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and I think led to most of what she did later.

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This is a song I learned from Patsy Cline,

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and it's called I Fall To Pieces.

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Linda embraced country, and she gave it a new kind of hipness,

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which saw it reaching out to the West Coast kids.

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# I fall to pieces

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# Each time someone speaks your name... #

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I always turn back to what was in the living room

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in my childhood home before I was aged ten.

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If I didn't hear it by the time I was ten,

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I really couldn't do it with any authenticity.

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MUSIC: Don't Think Twice, It's All Right by Joan Baez

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Born just a year after Linda and Dolly was a singer

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who would go on to become one of their greatest collaborators.

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Emmylou Harris was raised a middle-class child of

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a military family in the suburbs of North Carolina.

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Unlike Dolly and Linda, she didn't have a musical upbringing.

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I didn't grow up in a family where people sang. I was the only one.

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I was, kind of, the weirdo.

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# When the rooster crows at the break of dawn... #

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College student Emmylou was inspired by the music of John Baez

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and Bob Dylan, and the protest songs rallying against the unrest

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of mid-'60s America.

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# But don't think twice It's all right. #

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Aspiring folk singer Emmylou headed east

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to the Greenwich Village folk scene of the late '60s.

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# Calliope calling

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# Children are falling in line to ride on the merry-go-round

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# People are passing

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# Children are laughing

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# They want to ride on the merry-go-round... #

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'Folk music drew me in through the storytelling.'

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# Every ride is just the same... #

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'I decided to try to go to New York and try to be a folk singer

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'after dropping out of college.'

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# There is room for everyone... #

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There were so many of us at my age who had long hair and wanted

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to be Joan Baez, but there'll only ever be one Joan Baez.

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# Sometimes right and sometimes wrong

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# You'll end up where you belong... #

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I dabbled in country, but mainly I...

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To my shame, I kind of did it as a joke.

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563, 30, 30...

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At the dawn of a new decade, Nashville's country fell on

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one side of a divided nation -

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middle America versus the nation's youth.

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# We don't smoke marijuana in Muskogee

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# We don't take our trips on LSD

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# We don't burn our draft cards down on Main Street

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# Cos we like livin' right and bein' free... #

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But Emmylou was about to discover the poetry of classic honky-tonk.

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How I went from folk to country is Gram Parsons.

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MUSIC: Christine's Tune by The Flying Burrito Brothers

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Gram Parsons saw the soul in country

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and championed it in his own unique rock'n'roll way.

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# She's a devil in disguise

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# You can see it in her eyes... #

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Gram had a kind of a cult audience, you know, he...

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From The Byrds' Sweetheart Of The Rodeo,

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and then The Flying Burrito Brothers,

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there was definitely a, sort of,

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a country audience of kids who, like myself,

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hadn't really grown up with it, but Gram kind of made it cool.

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The Southern California country rock scene, you know,

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it was country music being played by longhairs for the first time,

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because, you know, Nashville was more conservative.

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# We're gonna hold on... #

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Wild child Gram was one of the West Coast rockers

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who took influence from Nashville's stars

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and wanted to find his very own girl singer.

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# We're gonna ho-o-o-old on... #

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We talked and he said, "I'm going to make a record

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"and I want to find someone to sing with."

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I said, "There's a wonderful woman working out of

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"Washington DC, Emmylou Harris. You need to call her up."

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# The mention of... #

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I was thinking to myself, "OK, well, let's see if she can cut it or not,"

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so I thought of one of the hardest country duets

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I could think of to do,

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which was That's All It Took.

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# I tried so hard

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# To let you go

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# But look... #

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And she just sang like a bird, and I said, "Well, that's it."

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And I sang with her the rest of the night,

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and then she just kept getting better and better.

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BOTH: # And when today I heard them say your name

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# That's all it took... #

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I just got into it, I mean,

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and became a convert -

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almost obnoxious convert.

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He introduced her to the passion of...

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the poetry involved in country music.

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# Ooh

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# Las Vegas

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# Ain't no place for a poor boy like me... #

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Gram gave Emmylou country music.

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Emmylou, in turn, gave Gram the most wonderful singer -

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duet singer - he could find.

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# Every time I hit your crystal city

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# You know you're gonna make a wreck out of me... #

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When I was learning about country,

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I felt, "This is something I'm really good at."

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You know, I felt like I had found my place, somehow.

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What she brought to him was a stability -

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a stable factor in getting him focused,

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cos I couldn't. I tried!

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MUSIC: Six Days On The Road by The Flying Burrito Brothers

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# Well, I pulled out of Pittsburgh

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# Rollin' down the eastern seaboard... #

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Emmylou paid her dues on the road with Gram and the Fallen Angels,

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and it was in a Texan honky-tonk

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that her friendship with Linda began in 1973.

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We were in Texas.

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We were in Houston with the Neil Young tour

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and I heard that Gram and Emmy were in town.

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We ran into their road manager in the lobby of the hotel,

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and so we all decided that we'd go down

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to see their show after our show.

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# It was 40 or 50 years ago

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# A big shot played with time... #

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And so we went to this biker bar where they were playing,

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and I was worried I wouldn't be able to hear Emmy properly,

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cos it was a really rowdy, noisy place,

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but the minute she started singing, the place just went dead quiet

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and everybody just had this worshipful attitude, you know?

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# When you saw him talk his way

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# Was when he showed his claws... #

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When the two of them were onstage, it was like a musical love affair.

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They were just so focused.

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They had their mics set so that they could look right at each other,

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you know? And they would just follow each other exactly.

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It was a lovely, lovely musical thing.

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# Ooh-ooh

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# The new soft shoe

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# Ooh, the new soft shoe

0:20:110:20:16

# Yeah... #

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And I had a little fleeting moment when I thought,

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"She's doing what I'm doing but she's doing it better."

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And I thought, "I can feel jealous or I can just really love her

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"like everybody else does."

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# The new soft shoe... #

0:20:270:20:30

The admiration was mutual.

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I had seen her in New York,

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in my struggling Joan Baez wannabe days in the Village

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and had seen her, actually, perform,

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was incredibly jealous,

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and did not actually meet her.

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But Gram knew Linda, and I was introduced,

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and that became a very important relationship for me,

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as a friendship.

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MUSIC: Boulder To Birmingham by Emmylou Harris

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# I don't want to hear a love song... #

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Their friendship deepened in September 1973,

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when Emmylou's mentor Gram died from an overdose at just 26 years old.

0:21:100:21:14

# And I know there's life below me... #

0:21:140:21:18

When Gram died, Emmylou, along with everyone else, was shattered.

0:21:180:21:23

I'd thought I was going to spend quite a lot of my life

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singing with Gram.

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# And I don't want to hear a sad story

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# Full of heartbreak and desire... #

0:21:360:21:41

I was the beneficiary of the fact that he went before me

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and, kind of, left me this, you know,

0:21:450:21:49

this place that he had vacated.

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And I just had to figure out how to continue,

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and I had a lot of help.

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It was very hard on Emmy,

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and she came out to stay with me for a while in Los Angeles.

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Emmylou confronted her grief in song,

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and wrote the anthemic Boulder To Birmingham and played it to Linda.

0:22:060:22:10

# I watched it burn... #

0:22:110:22:13

She sat down in the living room and played me that song,

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I almost fell over.

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I mean, that's a really strong piece of material.

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# I would rock my soul

0:22:200:22:24

# In the bosom of Abraham... #

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And it broke my heart that Emmy had to go through what she had to go through to write about it,

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but it really established her as a serious songwriter.

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# I would walk all the way

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# From Boulder to Birmingham

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# If I thought I could see

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# I could see your face... #

0:22:470:22:51

# Well, you really got... #

0:22:540:22:55

'Bringing me out to sing on her records,

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'having me come and sing at her shows -

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'she did a lot for me,

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'as the incredibly generous person that she is.'

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This was right before everything broke through for Linda,

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you know, who became the biggest rock star in the world.

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# Feelin' better

0:23:120:23:14

# Now that we're through

0:23:140:23:16

# Feelin' better cos I'm over you... #

0:23:160:23:21

With the addition of Peter Asher as Linda's manager and record producer,

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her retro song choices and polished sound saw her star ascend.

0:23:240:23:28

# Oh, you're no good You're no good

0:23:280:23:31

# You're no good

0:23:310:23:32

# Baby, you're no good

0:23:320:23:35

# I'm going to say it again

0:23:350:23:37

# You're no good You're no good... #

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She was doing both styles at that time,

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both the rockier stuff and the country stuff,

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and so radio embraced that single and it was a big, big hit.

0:23:440:23:49

# When will I be loved? #

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She had hit single after hit single, huge tours...

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She was - no argument about it -

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the biggest female artist in rock at the time.

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# When will I be

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# Loved? #

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Meanwhile, Emmylou was forging a solo career out of California,

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leading a hot band and an eclectic songbook that took in

0:24:200:24:23

classic country and rock'n'roll.

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She brought to the country music audience, maybe,

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a more younger take on, you know, what a country singer,

0:24:290:24:33

a young female country singer, could be.

0:24:330:24:36

# Oh, Amarillo

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# What you want my baby for? #

0:24:390:24:41

As far as country-slash- rock-and-roll fusion happening,

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that was a really electrifying band.

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They could really play,

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and Emmylou was right out in front of that

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just with an enormous amount of energy

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and an enormous amount of focus.

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The sisterhood was set to expand when Emmylou and Linda discovered

0:25:000:25:03

they shared a mutual appreciation of the girl from Tennessee.

0:25:030:25:08

There weren't that many girl singers out there, so, you know,

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you'd think, "This is a like soul. I want to know who influences her.

0:25:110:25:15

"Who is the most important person?"

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She wanted to know that about me and our answer was Dolly Parton.

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APPLAUSE

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# Jolene, Jolene, Jolene

0:25:250:25:28

# Jolene

0:25:280:25:30

# I'm begging of you Please don't take my man

0:25:300:25:35

# Jolene, Jolene, Jolene

0:25:360:25:39

# Jolene

0:25:390:25:42

# Please don't take him just because you can... #

0:25:420:25:45

Back in the South, as Linda and Emmylou were taking country to

0:25:450:25:47

a rock crowd, Dolly was about to take classic country to the world.

0:25:470:25:51

We'd both heard Jolene on the radio and gone,

0:25:510:25:54

"Oh, my God, this girl can really sing." You know?

0:25:540:25:57

She was singing like she was singing, I was just knocked out.

0:25:570:25:59

# Your smile is like a breath of spring

0:25:590:26:01

# Your voice is soft like summer rain

0:26:010:26:04

# And I cannot compete with you, Jolene... #

0:26:040:26:07

Sort of like that.

0:26:070:26:09

We loved her songwriting.

0:26:090:26:11

But we... Mainly we loved her voice.

0:26:110:26:14

# Nothin' I can do to keep from cryin'... #

0:26:140:26:16

Dolly's voice goes into that incredibly beautiful,

0:26:160:26:19

lovely, sparkly place.

0:26:190:26:21

# Oh, and I can easily understand

0:26:210:26:23

# How you could easily take my man

0:26:230:26:25

# But you don't know what he means to me, Jolene... #

0:26:250:26:30

In 1974, after seven years with Porter,

0:26:300:26:33

Dolly decided to go it alone.

0:26:330:26:35

Nashville's Music Row is buzzing today over

0:26:350:26:37

yesterday's bombshell announcement -

0:26:370:26:39

the $3 million lawsuit by Porter Wagoner against Dolly Parton.

0:26:390:26:43

The suit charges Dolly with breach of contract.

0:26:430:26:46

Dolly had a lot of faith in herself.

0:26:460:26:48

Dolly believed she could do it on her own.

0:26:480:26:51

It was very nervy, though,

0:26:510:26:53

for a woman in country music to do what she did,

0:26:530:26:56

which was to break out of her mentor's shadow,

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which was Porter Wagoner, leave his show,

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go out on her own as a solo artist and try to make it on her own.

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Dolly got herself big-time LA management

0:27:060:27:08

and went Hollywood with her own country show.

0:27:080:27:11

Ladies and gentlemen, Dolly Parton. APPLAUSE

0:27:110:27:15

The attitude in Nashville at the time was,

0:27:150:27:18

"Well, she's leaving country music and we don't like her,"

0:27:180:27:20

and, you know, this and that. And Dolly famously said,

0:27:200:27:23

"I'm not leaving country - I'm taking it with me,"

0:27:230:27:26

which is exactly what she did.

0:27:260:27:28

# Jolene

0:27:280:27:30

# Jolene... #

0:27:300:27:31

Country was the blue-collar sound of the rural South, so it seemed

0:27:310:27:34

unlikely that a cool country curator would be captivated by Dolly.

0:27:340:27:39

This next song, um, is written by Dolly Parton.

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She did Dolly's song Coat Of Many Colours every night,

0:27:460:27:49

and, you know, her eyes would sparkle.

0:27:490:27:52

You know, like, "I'm doing a Dolly Parton song."

0:27:520:27:55

# Back through the years

0:27:550:27:57

# I go wanderin' once again

0:27:570:28:01

# Back to the seasons of my youth I recall... #

0:28:020:28:07

'Coat Of Many Colours was... It had become'

0:28:070:28:10

one of my favourite songs when I got into country.

0:28:100:28:12

And, of course, there was a certain folk element to Dolly, too,

0:28:120:28:16

because a lot of her writing was very storytelling.

0:28:160:28:19

# Momma sewed the rags together

0:28:190:28:22

# Sewin' every piece with love

0:28:220:28:25

# She made my coat of many colours

0:28:250:28:29

# That I was so proud of... #

0:28:290:28:32

To her audience, you know,

0:28:320:28:34

which was counterculture audience, really, at the time,

0:28:340:28:37

it was like, "And I'm introducing you to this great artist

0:28:370:28:40

"that you may not know about."

0:28:400:28:42

# Though we didn't have much money

0:28:420:28:45

# I was rich as I could be... #

0:28:450:28:47

I had no idea they knew me or liked me.

0:28:470:28:50

I just remembered loving their records.

0:28:500:28:53

# Momma made for me... #

0:28:530:28:55

A shared interest in harmony led to them becoming friends.

0:28:550:28:59

I first invited Dolly when she came out to California,

0:28:590:29:02

cos she was still living in Nashville, and when I knew

0:29:020:29:05

she was coming over, the first thing I did was call Linda.

0:29:050:29:08

I said, "I'll be right there,"

0:29:080:29:09

so I got in my car and zoomed over as fast as I could.

0:29:090:29:12

And, you know, they were sitting on the sofa talking,

0:29:120:29:14

and I came in, and we talked for a second, then the guitar came out.

0:29:140:29:17

And they were all excited to meet me.

0:29:170:29:19

I was all excited to meet them.

0:29:190:29:21

And so we said, "Well, we have to sing something."

0:29:210:29:23

And we started singing the Carter Family song,

0:29:230:29:25

Bury Me Beneath The Willow.

0:29:250:29:28

# Bury me beneath the willow

0:29:280:29:33

# Under the weeping willow tree

0:29:330:29:36

# Where he may know where I am sleeping

0:29:360:29:41

# And perhaps he'll weep for me... #

0:29:410:29:45

And all of a sudden, it was like,

0:29:450:29:47

"Oh, my goodness! This is such a great sound."

0:29:470:29:52

And it was like, bam! That sound was there, and we were just...

0:29:520:29:55

We were all kind of shocked by it. We just went,

0:29:550:29:57

"Wow, that's really something that's different from what we usually do

0:29:570:30:00

"with other musicians that we jam and play and sing with."

0:30:000:30:03

Let's do it again.

0:30:030:30:04

ALL: # Won't you bury me beneath the willow... #

0:30:040:30:10

In 1976, the trio took their sound public

0:30:100:30:13

when Dolly invited them onto her show.

0:30:130:30:15

That particular episode was different

0:30:150:30:17

than all of the other Dolly episodes.

0:30:170:30:19

The other Dolly episodes had kind of fakey banter and jokes and junk

0:30:190:30:25

and this one, of all of the shows in that series,

0:30:250:30:29

was the most purely musical.

0:30:290:30:31

My momma used to sing a song called The Sweetest Gift,

0:30:310:30:33

when she was a little girl,

0:30:330:30:35

and she loved the record that you and Linda had on it and

0:30:350:30:37

she asked me if I'd have you sing it today, so would you do that? Sure.

0:30:370:30:40

Well, OK. This is for your momma. Right. And for mine.

0:30:400:30:44

# One day a mother... APPLAUSE

0:30:470:30:50

# ..went to a prison

0:30:500:30:54

# To see an erring but precious son

0:30:540:31:00

# She told the warden

0:31:000:31:03

# How much she loved him... #

0:31:030:31:06

Linda came from a singing family and you certainly came from

0:31:060:31:09

a singing family. I definitely did, yeah. So I was really loving it.

0:31:090:31:13

# She did not bring to him a parole or pardon

0:31:130:31:20

# She brought no silver Brought no... #

0:31:200:31:23

As eager students of Dolly,

0:31:230:31:25

Emmylou and Linda were excited by what she added to the music.

0:31:250:31:29

The uniting thread is the mountain heritage.

0:31:290:31:34

The Appalachian sound that Dolly just brings naturally to the music,

0:31:340:31:37

because that's who she is.

0:31:370:31:39

# ..a mother's smile

0:31:390:31:41

# She left a smile you can remember

0:31:410:31:47

# She's gone to heaven from heartache free... #

0:31:470:31:55

'She had this authenticity for that mountain music that we both loved,

0:31:550:32:00

'but didn't feel we had the right...'

0:32:000:32:02

Yes, we would sing it, but she was the real deal.

0:32:020:32:05

# ..and e'er will be... #

0:32:050:32:07

She came out of the foothills and mountains of eastern Tennessee,

0:32:070:32:11

with the real thing and I think, if you add that to the mix of...

0:32:110:32:19

Emmy and Linda's relationship, it's like there's the...

0:32:190:32:25

your gender's Mount Rushmore!

0:32:250:32:28

# The sweetest gift A mother's smile

0:32:280:32:35

# The sweetest gift

0:32:350:32:37

# A mother's smile... #

0:32:370:32:44

APPLAUSE Ooh, I love that!

0:32:440:32:48

'We really enjoyed each other's company.

0:32:480:32:50

'It just seemed fun at the time.'

0:32:500:32:52

I don't remember there being any trauma

0:32:520:32:55

or worrying about the lighting or anything, because we were so young

0:32:550:32:58

and we knew we looked good and we didn't have to worry about anything.

0:32:580:33:01

SHE LAUGHS

0:33:010:33:02

Where are you?

0:33:020:33:04

What are you doing in the audience?

0:33:040:33:07

It's the only way we could get anything to eat.

0:33:070:33:09

Oh, ha-ha! And we wanted to see the show from here.

0:33:090:33:12

'Dolly Parton is larger than life

0:33:120:33:14

'from the moment you lay eyes on her.'

0:33:140:33:17

She was exotic!

0:33:180:33:21

Er, taking nothing away from Linda or Emmylou,

0:33:210:33:26

they were kind of girl next door,

0:33:260:33:29

they were the really cute girls from down the street, you know,

0:33:290:33:31

who could sing like birds.

0:33:310:33:33

# Play a song for me Applejack, Applejack

0:33:330:33:38

# Play a song for me and I'll sing... #

0:33:380:33:42

It wasn't only the viewers that were treated to this unlikely grouping.

0:33:420:33:46

Musically, it opened up a whole new audience for all involved.

0:33:460:33:50

# I'd go down to Applejack's just almost every day, we'd sit and... #

0:33:520:33:57

'Although we were mismatched, in the worlds we came from,'

0:33:570:34:01

once we opened our mouths to sing, you know,

0:34:010:34:04

even though we didn't look like we would fit together,

0:34:040:34:08

when you heard us, you felt it and you saw it.

0:34:080:34:11

# Play a song for me Applejack, Applejack

0:34:110:34:16

# Play a song Let your banjo ring... #

0:34:160:34:20

'The idea of Linda and Dolly and Emmylou

0:34:210:34:24

'appearing on television together was a big deal.

0:34:240:34:27

'It drew in three disparate audiences.'

0:34:270:34:29

Linda brought her audience, er, Emmy hers

0:34:290:34:32

and Dolly, of course, it was her show.

0:34:320:34:34

Clap your hands with us! # Play a song for me... #

0:34:340:34:38

I think television did things like that for commercial reasons,

0:34:380:34:41

but artistically, it ended up being incredibly helpful

0:34:410:34:45

to all three of them as well.

0:34:450:34:47

Linda Ronstadt and Emmylou, for Dolly, were street cred.

0:34:470:34:51

'Really intense street cred.'

0:34:510:34:53

# Play a song for me... #

0:34:530:34:56

'For Linda and Emmylou,

0:34:560:34:57

'it was honouring the authenticity of the music of Dolly Parton.'

0:34:570:35:02

Look, this is a brilliant artist,

0:35:020:35:04

you know, and I think the rest of the world

0:35:040:35:06

has come around to that point of view.

0:35:060:35:08

I think Emmy and Linda just saw it before the rest of the world did.

0:35:080:35:12

Aw!

0:35:120:35:14

APPLAUSE AND CHEERING

0:35:140:35:17

That buzz, we just felt...

0:35:180:35:21

At that moment, we all said, "We have to make a record!"

0:35:210:35:24

We just wanted to do it for the music and we didn't know that

0:35:240:35:26

it would be successful, we didn't care, we just wanted to do it.

0:35:260:35:29

SHE LAUGHS We figured we'd earned the right.

0:35:290:35:32

In 1979, setting time aside from their solo careers, the trio began

0:35:330:35:37

laying down tracks with Emmylou's husband, producer Brian Ahern.

0:35:370:35:41

# Mr Sandman

0:35:410:35:44

# Bring me a dream

0:35:440:35:46

# Make him the cutest that I've ever seen... #

0:35:460:35:50

But it soon became obvious

0:35:500:35:52

that, musically, the approach they took wasn't working out.

0:35:520:35:56

We got above our raison a little bit, because, all of a sudden,

0:35:560:35:59

we thought, "Man, we could make a great pop record."

0:35:590:36:02

# ..I'm so alone... #

0:36:020:36:04

But Brian just said, "This is a mistake.

0:36:040:36:06

"This should almost be an acoustic record."

0:36:060:36:09

It just wasn't how we had hoped to hear ourselves.

0:36:090:36:12

It wasn't the right setting.

0:36:120:36:14

We all kind of agreed. He's a very good producer,

0:36:140:36:17

but it just, you know, it was a swing and a miss.

0:36:170:36:20

So, we kind of retreated into our corners

0:36:200:36:23

to figure out what to do next.

0:36:230:36:25

In the early '80s, their careers continued on.

0:36:250:36:28

Emmylou's passion still lay in roots country

0:36:280:36:31

and she relocated to Nashville.

0:36:310:36:34

# Well, it comes to he who waits, I'm told

0:36:340:36:36

# But I don't need it when I'm old and grey

0:36:360:36:41

# Yeah, I want it today... #

0:36:410:36:43

Linda, meanwhile, continued to prove she was a musical jukebox

0:36:440:36:48

with her versatility as she moved into the '80s...

0:36:480:36:51

# I know something about love

0:36:510:36:54

# You gotta want it bad If that guy's got into... #

0:36:540:36:58

..adding New Wave and even the Great American Songbook

0:36:580:37:01

to her repertoire.

0:37:010:37:03

# I have got a crush

0:37:030:37:07

# My baby, on...

0:37:080:37:12

# You. #

0:37:120:37:17

CHEERING

0:37:220:37:25

In 1980, Dolly's ambition had paid off.

0:37:250:37:28

She'd topped the charts around the world

0:37:280:37:29

and was even a hit in Hollywood with her new pop sound.

0:37:290:37:32

# I tumble outta bed and I stumble to the kitchen

0:37:320:37:35

# Pour myself a cup of ambition

0:37:350:37:37

# Yawn and stretch and try to come to life... #

0:37:370:37:40

I think of it as Dolly finally, like kicking the ball through the...

0:37:400:37:44

through the field goal. It's like she...

0:37:440:37:46

she had the touchdown with that one.

0:37:460:37:48

# ..from 9 to 5

0:37:480:37:50

# Workin' 9 to 5

0:37:500:37:52

# What a way to make a livin'

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# Barely gettin' by

0:37:540:37:56

# It's all takin' and no givin'

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# They just use your mind

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# But they'll never give you credit

0:38:010:38:03

# It's enough to drive you

0:38:030:38:05

# Crazy if you let it... #

0:38:050:38:08

Like Dolly, in the mid-'80s,

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country music was obsessed with crossover and Nashville's Music Row

0:38:120:38:15

was accused of being too slick and pop orientated.

0:38:150:38:19

# I'm going to bop with you, baby all night long

0:38:190:38:23

# I'm going to bop the night away... #

0:38:230:38:25

Through the late '70s and into the '80s,

0:38:250:38:27

country music went through a few boom and bust cycles.

0:38:270:38:31

# Hello, Detroit auto workers

0:38:310:38:34

# Let me thank you for your time... #

0:38:340:38:38

The more it becomes an entertainment type of commodity

0:38:380:38:40

the less, you know, true to its kind of country music roots

0:38:400:38:44

the music itself became.

0:38:440:38:45

# Hello, Pittsburgh... #

0:38:450:38:48

It was a time when, you know,

0:38:480:38:49

country music had sort of lost its identity.

0:38:490:38:51

# You work a 40-hour week for a livin'... #

0:38:510:38:55

By 1986, Dolly had acquired international stardom

0:38:560:38:59

and, despite their crazy schedules, the trio decided it was time

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to reunite and finally make the album they wanted.

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APPLAUSE AND CHEERING Yeah!

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Well, look at us cowgirls! Howdy, pardners! Howdy, Dolly!

0:39:110:39:15

APPLAUSE CONTINUES You know... Thank you, folks.

0:39:150:39:19

APPLAUSE DIES DOWN

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Now, this is a real big treat for me,

0:39:200:39:23

because everybody, since I started the show,

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has wanted to know where Linda and Emmy are, because everybody kind of

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thinks of us as sisters, and you finally made it.

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We were all on different labels, we all had different managers,

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we all were scattered to the wind, all had obligations and tours,

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so we worked for years trying to pull off the first Trio album.

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This past year, Linda called Emmy and me up and said,

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"Let's do this album before we get so old we can't sing!"

0:39:450:39:49

LAUGHTER Or nobody's interested! Yeah!

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So we did the album...

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The friends wanted to bring back old-time mountain music just when

0:39:530:39:56

it was slipping out of reach, but not everybody was on board.

0:39:560:40:00

I don't think anybody liked the idea of three women singers,

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I don't think anybody liked the idea of us being not in a niche.

0:40:020:40:05

It wasn't rock and roll, it wasn't country,

0:40:050:40:07

it wasn't this, wasn't that, it was old-timey music.

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ACOUSTIC INTRO PLAYS

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# Oh, the pain of loving you... #

0:40:160:40:22

Trio was recorded in 1986 at Complex Studios in Los Angeles,

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with George Massenburg chosen as the producer

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to focus on their harmonies.

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The inspiration was to, as much as possible,

0:40:300:40:33

capture that thing that they felt in just singing together live

0:40:330:40:39

and comfortable and happy and just thrilled

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with the sounds that came out in a very live, very small context.

0:40:440:40:48

The artists hand-picked some of the very best session players

0:40:540:40:57

to capture their stripped-back sound.

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Dolly Parton, Emmylou and Linda Ronstadt

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are going to sing three-part harmony and then, there's a bunch of people

0:41:030:41:06

that they really like to play with and I said, "Ooh, that's good!"

0:41:060:41:09

And you get paid too! "OK! Well, that's fine with me.

0:41:090:41:14

"That's just fine with me. Sign me up, sign me on."

0:41:140:41:17

I was a little nervous maybe. I mean, we're all kind of on edge

0:41:230:41:28

when you're working with people like that, you know,

0:41:280:41:31

you want to do it right and... HE LAUGHS

0:41:310:41:33

..you don't want to be the one who's going to mess up, you know.

0:41:330:41:37

And especially when they have... when their ideas,

0:41:370:41:40

their musical ideas, are pretty much better than your own, you know.

0:41:400:41:45

WOMAN: A poet once said that

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something in a hill child dies when he goes down to level land.

0:41:490:41:55

The trio wanted the album

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to evoke the old-timey songs of the mountains.

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We were chasing more agrarian music, you know, from the times that people

0:42:030:42:07

really actually lived in the country and were more isolated.

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GOSPEL SINGING

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People sang together. The family sang together.

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They were, you know, stuck on these mountains, with valleys between 'em.

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GOSPEL SINGING CONTINUES

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Women in Appalachia were the song savers,

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were the song preservers, in the folk tradition.

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They're the ones that saved the old ballads,

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which are often from feminine points of view.

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# I once did have a dear companion

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# Indeed I called his love my own... #

0:42:400:42:45

I like to call it parlour music, the kind of thing that women might do

0:42:450:42:49

in the 19th century - when their household chores are finished,

0:42:490:42:52

they might have a few precious moments to sit down on the sofa

0:42:520:42:55

and harmonise together and sort of share your sorrows and your joys.

0:42:550:42:59

# ..and dreaming in some soft repose... #

0:42:590:43:05

'It's such a mournful song.'

0:43:050:43:07

The first Jean Ritchie rendition of that,

0:43:070:43:10

that Alan Lomax got... It's so mournful! ..it's so sad!

0:43:100:43:12

Yeah. And it's within that tradition of

0:43:120:43:14

female Appalachian songs, where they're just longing for some lover

0:43:140:43:18

that's never going to come back... Yeah.

0:43:180:43:21

..and the Trio took that and then they kind of raised it.

0:43:210:43:25

# Oh, have you seen my dear companion?

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# For he was all this world to me... #

0:43:320:43:38

'There's a lot of light and hope in it. Mm-hm.

0:43:380:43:40

'Even with this sad lyric, you feel like it's...'

0:43:400:43:43

these women mourning a lover, but kind of they're together... Yeah!

0:43:430:43:47

..and they're going to hold each other up.

0:43:470:43:49

# I'd join the wild birds in their crying

0:43:490:43:55

# Thinking of you and your sweet face... #

0:43:550:44:02

'Preserving these songs... Yeah. ..and bringing them into'

0:44:020:44:05

a new generation that might not listen to the old things,

0:44:050:44:10

you know, I think that it's...

0:44:100:44:12

and I don't know who's doing that today.

0:44:120:44:15

# Oh, have you seen my dear companion?

0:44:150:44:22

# He was all this world to me. #

0:44:220:44:30

I'm very sentimental about all those songs.

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Linda and Emmy had done research

0:44:340:44:36

on those things to find a lot of that stuff,

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because they came from, like I say, a different world than I did.

0:44:380:44:41

I came from that place and so those songs were embedded in my psyche,

0:44:410:44:45

in my soul, in my heart, in my mouth, you know.

0:44:450:44:49

# There's a little rosewood casket

0:44:490:44:54

# Resting on a marble stand... #

0:44:540:45:00

'Of course, those are the songs that I can sing the best, I think,'

0:45:000:45:04

even though I like thinking I can do all kinds of stuff,

0:45:040:45:07

but the truth is my truest gift really is that...

0:45:070:45:12

that sound that really comes from the mountains,

0:45:120:45:14

that is so true to who I truly am and how I grew up.

0:45:140:45:17

# ..read them o'er for me tonight... #

0:45:170:45:22

We wanted to bring that part of her voice,

0:45:220:45:25

that part of Dolly, back into Appalachia,

0:45:250:45:29

and using it to our purposes too, having Dolly's voice there,

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and just Dolly's presence there, made us authentic.

0:45:340:45:38

# Last night as I lay on the boxcar

0:45:400:45:46

# Just waiting for a train to pass by... #

0:45:460:45:53

It became clear that the magic of the Trio was what they had

0:45:530:45:56

discovered ten years previously - the blend of their voices.

0:45:560:45:59

'Dolly, Linda and Emmy all had different voices -

0:45:590:46:02

'decidedly different voices - but when they sang together,'

0:46:020:46:05

their complexities dovetailed in ways that were

0:46:050:46:09

at once idiosyncratic and incredibly beautiful.

0:46:090:46:12

# Will there be any freight trains in heaven?

0:46:120:46:17

# Any boxcars in which we might hide? #

0:46:190:46:25

They all had distinctive personalities

0:46:250:46:29

in their voices, qualities,

0:46:290:46:32

and I think that's what makes a really good, interesting blend.

0:46:320:46:36

If you can blend, and have your own voice and put your own stamp on it,

0:46:360:46:41

it's truly magical.

0:46:410:46:42

# Will we always have money to spare? #

0:46:440:46:49

There's a vibration that happens and, to me, it's very spiritual.

0:46:490:46:53

It's like something else enters the room. Mm-hm.

0:46:530:46:56

And that's like the overtone, but to me, it's just

0:46:560:46:58

this vibration of otherness that lifts the whole thing.

0:46:580:47:03

It's just an accident of nature. It's genes.

0:47:030:47:06

You know, how our voices combined,

0:47:060:47:07

they just happened to fill up parts of...

0:47:070:47:10

Each person filled up a part that the other person didn't have.

0:47:100:47:13

I think we sound like sisters. You never know.

0:47:130:47:16

There are those groups that are not family,

0:47:160:47:18

but they sound like they are, and when you can come across

0:47:180:47:21

that combination, you've got something really good.

0:47:210:47:23

CHATTER AND LAUGHTER

0:47:230:47:26

As the Trio all approached their 40th birthday, they chose a song

0:47:260:47:30

looking back to the girl groups of their teenage years

0:47:300:47:32

as a song dedicated to the men in their lives,

0:47:320:47:35

the Phil Spector song To Know Him Is To Love Him.

0:47:350:47:38

ALL: # To know, know, know him

0:47:380:47:42

# Is to love, love, love him

0:47:420:47:47

# Just to see him smile... #

0:47:470:47:51

A certain movie director was asked to direct the promo for the song.

0:47:510:47:55

Well, you know, it was kind of like, "We should make a music video,"

0:47:550:47:59

and I was going out with this guy that made films, so he could do it.

0:47:590:48:02

It was that way, it was very casual.

0:48:020:48:04

You know, I was the boyfriend,

0:48:080:48:09

so, you know, I was sort of like the fly on the wall,

0:48:090:48:12

but, you know, they would sit around and, a lot of the times,

0:48:120:48:15

they'd talk about the loves lost or the love for a new boyfriend,

0:48:150:48:19

or the new this, and all that kind of stuff, so there was a lot of that

0:48:190:48:22

that they actually were living and they're very romantic about it.

0:48:220:48:26

You know, it's... It's sort of Jane Austen-ish,

0:48:260:48:29

if I can, like, put that there. HE LAUGHS

0:48:290:48:34

# ..love, love, love him And I do... #

0:48:340:48:38

They are strong, brilliant women,

0:48:380:48:41

who had had a variety of relationships with men

0:48:410:48:46

and had emerged from all of these as, er, victorious.

0:48:460:48:52

# Why can't he see I...? #

0:48:520:49:01

LINDA: 'Emmy has a real heartbreak sound in her singing. It's like a...

0:49:010:49:05

'Like I said, like she's pleading for her life and her sanity.'

0:49:050:49:08

# Someday, he will see... #

0:49:080:49:12

'Music has always had such an effect on me.

0:49:120:49:15

'I think it opens up the vistas of our soul and our heart'

0:49:150:49:19

and our humanness, it connects us to people and makes us feel that

0:49:190:49:24

somehow we all, one way or another, share the same human experience.

0:49:240:49:29

# Those memories of you still haunt me, every night... #

0:49:290:49:38

Each singer has their own history and their own where they're from

0:49:380:49:42

and what they do and, you know, it's not just the voices.

0:49:420:49:45

'It's the culture behind the voices that blend and their struggles.

0:49:450:49:51

'You know, they all had struggles.'

0:49:510:49:54

ALL: # ..they lay me down

0:49:540:49:57

DOLLY: # In dreams of you... #

0:49:570:50:01

LINDA: 'Dolly has a sound like a heartbroken child, you know,

0:50:010:50:03

'like you've just absolutely smashed her hopes or something.'

0:50:030:50:06

And she's strong, she's going to carry on,

0:50:060:50:08

but she just has this heartbroken disappointment.

0:50:080:50:11

# But you're not there

0:50:110:50:14

# And I'm so lonesome... #

0:50:140:50:17

'We got very emotional ourselves many times

0:50:170:50:20

'when we were singing certain songs. You know, we would feel it!'

0:50:200:50:24

And when you get that much feeling,

0:50:240:50:25

I mean, if you've got any feelings at all,

0:50:250:50:28

it's going to kind of overflow, so that's what you hope to do.

0:50:280:50:32

A decade after its conception,

0:50:320:50:34

the acoustic country album was released and it flew in the face

0:50:340:50:37

of the contemporary formulaic pop produced in Nashville at the time.

0:50:370:50:41

There was some resistance to putting the record out at the beginning.

0:50:410:50:45

It was not a slam dunk. You'd think it would be, but it wasn't.

0:50:450:50:49

It hit Nashville like a bomb! They loathed it!

0:50:490:50:53

# For at least I could run They just died in the sun... #

0:50:530:50:57

They did play it on the radio.

0:50:570:50:59

We didn't know, but we believed there was a market for this.

0:50:590:51:03

Country was the way we pushed it. It got a lot of play, I think,

0:51:030:51:07

also on adult contemporary and middle of the road stations

0:51:070:51:11

and some, like, cool FM stations, you know.

0:51:110:51:13

People were listening to country music that really weren't country.

0:51:130:51:18

They really didn't like the twangy stuff.

0:51:180:51:20

You know, they didn't like the steel guitars, and this was not that.

0:51:200:51:24

This was real mountain music, so it was perfect, and I think we sold,

0:51:240:51:29

like, four million records on the dang thing!

0:51:290:51:32

# When a flower grows wild it can always survive

0:51:320:51:37

ALL: # Wildflowers don't care where they grow... #

0:51:370:51:43

Trio went on to win Country Music Association awards,

0:51:430:51:46

Academy of Country Music awards, Grammy Awards,

0:51:460:51:49

gold record, platinum record!

0:51:490:51:51

Four hit singles! It could not have been more successful. It was a...

0:51:510:51:55

It was a masterpiece that was a commercial success. What a concept!

0:51:550:51:58

After proving Nashville wrong with the success of Trio,

0:52:000:52:03

the three tried to regroup, but it didn't run so smoothly

0:52:030:52:06

and it took 13 years to release their next album.

0:52:060:52:08

Naturally, none of the people that were in charge of us professionally

0:52:100:52:13

were eager to do something that would take more time

0:52:130:52:15

and make less money and be more trouble,

0:52:150:52:17

so it was just really hard to get that happening,

0:52:170:52:20

but we wanted to do it, cos we liked the music.

0:52:200:52:22

# ..that matters

0:52:220:52:24

# Is the love that we share

0:52:250:52:28

# And the way that we care

0:52:280:52:32

# When we're gone

0:52:320:52:34

# Long gone. #

0:52:340:52:37

The trio stuck to its successful formula

0:52:370:52:40

and Trio II was eventually released in 1999,

0:52:400:52:44

following rumours of unharmonious struggles between the artists.

0:52:440:52:47

One of us may be having a single coming out, so they said,

0:52:470:52:50

"No, we can't put a Trio out!" It was those kind of things.

0:52:500:52:53

It was more things, aggravations,

0:52:530:52:54

brought on by other people or just things that couldn't be helped.

0:52:540:52:59

# And when we're gone, gone... #

0:52:590:53:04

But we loved each other,

0:53:040:53:06

and Linda and Emmy are very close, they've stayed very, very close.

0:53:060:53:10

# The only thing that will have mattered... #

0:53:100:53:12

'It didn't affect my friendship with Emmy.

0:53:120:53:14

'I mean, it just was a hard business thing,'

0:53:140:53:17

that's all, you know. There are reasons those things happen

0:53:170:53:20

and you just have to accept them.

0:53:200:53:21

Er, can we look forward to a Trio III?

0:53:210:53:24

Well, we'd like to. You can look forward to it.

0:53:240:53:27

We're looking forward to it.

0:53:270:53:28

And if this one does well enough for the record label to afford us

0:53:280:53:31

to do it, that'd make a difference too, so get out and buy this record!

0:53:310:53:34

We need the money. It costs a lot to look this cheap!

0:53:340:53:37

LAUGHTER

0:53:370:53:39

And, following Trio's release, there was a resurgence

0:53:390:53:42

and a return to country roots and old-time music.

0:53:420:53:45

# I am a man of constant sorrow... #

0:53:470:53:54

It did have influence on things like O Brother, Where Art Thou?,

0:53:540:53:57

which also was a breakthrough in country music.

0:53:570:54:00

It was so wacky!

0:54:000:54:02

But it was a similar kind of music that the Trio is.

0:54:020:54:05

It was that back to roots, the real deal stuff, you know.

0:54:050:54:11

And it exploded!

0:54:110:54:12

After our album came out, then Ricky Skaggs had a huge hit

0:54:190:54:22

with traditional stuff and then it became...

0:54:220:54:24

I think that our album really paved the road for

0:54:240:54:27

people like Alison Krauss later on, you know.

0:54:270:54:29

# Till I find my way back to my heart

0:54:290:54:34

# For there's no-one but me gonna take my part... #

0:54:340:54:40

Alison Krauss has popularised that particular traditional sound -

0:54:400:54:47

really soulful-sounding music - that Linda and Dolly and Emmy

0:54:470:54:52

were plugged into before these artists came along.

0:54:520:54:55

Trio III was not to be, when, in 2012, the trio realised

0:55:060:55:09

they could never sing together again.

0:55:090:55:12

When I heard that Linda had Parkinson's and she wasn't going

0:55:120:55:16

to be able to sing, I mean, it cut me like a knife.

0:55:160:55:19

It just killed me, and I can only imagine how she must feel!

0:55:190:55:24

# White snow

0:55:240:55:30

# In a deep sleep... #

0:55:300:55:34

This is kind of bittersweet,

0:55:340:55:36

because there will be some things that people have not heard before

0:55:360:55:39

that were recorded when she was still in her prime

0:55:390:55:42

and that gorgeous voice was there for all the world to share in.

0:55:420:55:47

# ..purple black sky... #

0:55:470:55:53

I think that showing Linda Ronstadt,

0:55:550:55:57

you know, at the height of her powers as a singer,

0:55:570:56:00

and in the company of these wonderful collaborators,

0:56:000:56:04

will remind people what a force she was.

0:56:040:56:07

# Oh, that boy of mine

0:56:070:56:11

# By my side... #

0:56:110:56:13

'I did so many different kinds of music, you know.'

0:56:130:56:16

It all came to me from the living room of the house that I grew up in,

0:56:160:56:19

or it came from the radio or from my sister or brother,

0:56:190:56:22

so it was just one of the other influences that I've absorbed.

0:56:220:56:26

I'm just grateful I got a chance to do it.

0:56:260:56:28

# Well, I'll never be blue

0:56:280:56:31

# My dreams come true

0:56:310:56:36

# On Blue Bayou. #

0:56:360:56:48

APPLAUSE AND CHEERING

0:56:480:56:52

Linda, Emmylou and Dolly were

0:56:550:56:57

pioneers in bringing different cultures and music together

0:56:570:57:00

and raising the game for women in the country tradition.

0:57:000:57:04

The Trio now is, er...is legendary.

0:57:040:57:07

You meet these young women today

0:57:070:57:09

that, to them, they're formative musical figures.

0:57:090:57:13

Whether or not they'd describe themselves as feminists,

0:57:130:57:16

they so absolutely and clearly were, you know, way ahead of their time

0:57:160:57:22

in their determination to forge their own career,

0:57:220:57:24

regardless of what anybody else thought they should be.

0:57:240:57:28

People, I think, will look back when they're studying music...

0:57:280:57:31

Well, you like to think those kind of things,

0:57:310:57:33

like, when you're gone, how will you be remembered?

0:57:330:57:36

But I'd like to think, like, in school, in music school,

0:57:360:57:38

I think people will point to that Trio

0:57:380:57:41

and it'll have the best of all three of us.

0:57:410:57:44

I'll treasure it till the day I'm gone,

0:57:440:57:46

which we're old enough to be any day now, but... Any day now!

0:57:460:57:51

Knock on wood!

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# You don't knock You don't knock, you just walk on in

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# The door The door to Heaven's den

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# There's love There's love and joy for you

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# To share To share the whole day through

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# I know I know my friends are there

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# To rest To rest in the Heaven's nest

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# You don't knock...

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# You just walk on in. #

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'From the heights of the Scottish Highlands

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'to the shores of East Anglia, I've travelled across Britain...'

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We got a fish!

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'..to learn about the food I cook for my family...'

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Tell me, what is so good about these potatoes?

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