Roy Orbison: Love Hurts


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I'm Alex Orbison, Roy Orbison's youngest son.

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Along with my brothers Roy Jr and Wesley,

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we're here to tell you our family's story.

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# Pretty woman walking down the street... #

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It's a dramatic and emotional story

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that we still find difficult to tell.

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Sometimes I know that I'm getting emotional

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and I want to veer away...

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..but I realise it's just best to let the emotions fly free.

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HE GROWLS

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# Pretty woman, stop on by... #

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They say that time...

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..makes it better

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but, you know, that's one of the biggest lies.

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Time doesn't make it better.

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It just...time stops.

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# Pretty woman, look my way

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# Pretty woman, say you'll stay with me... #

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It's not like you think about it every day, all day

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but it's really just there and, then, when you visit it,

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it's just as fresh as it was,

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when it happened.

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# ..be mine tonight

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# Pretty woman, don't walk on by

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# Pretty woman, don't make me cry... #

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Our story starts in the spring of 1966.

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My dad's star was shining at its brightest.

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He'd had a string of top 10 hits around the world...

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..was married to his childhood sweetheart Claudette...

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..and, together, they lived in Nashville

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with their sons Roy Dewayne, Anthony King,

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and their new baby Wesley.

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I remember things in terms of, roughly,

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years where big events in my life happened.

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It started in '65 with being born.

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That's the biggest event.

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Then, a year later, we lost my mother Claudette

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in a motorcycle accident. '66.

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Claudette and I went riding on motorcycles.

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We were...

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..about six miles from home.

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I made a stoplight, and turned left and then stopped.

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And she wasn't behind me.

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So I turned around and went back

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and a pick-up truck had pulled out in front of her.

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So I came home and I had to tell the children.

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Told the oldest boy that his mother wasn't coming home.

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I don't know much at all about her other than they say

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that she was very sweet.

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And a pretty woman.

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But I was always keen to ask my father, for instance...

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..and he would say,

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"That's a little hard for me to talk about, with you,

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"because you favour her so much," you know.

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"You remind me of her."

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"So, I don't mind talking about it,

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"but just... Just give me a minute," you know.

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Most of my love just went to the children.

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Er...

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My world, sort of, centred around them.

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I didn't stop working, or anything.

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Working is...

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..is very therapeutic.

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Right now, it's top of the bill time

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and we have just about America's most favourite visitor to our charts.

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I mean, the one and only Roy Orbison.

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APPLAUSE

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Now, what I did, I'd go through the motions

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of doing whatever I'd normally do.

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I don't think you should analyse anything...

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..immediately after it happened.

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And I think you need to reflect just a little bit.

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# A candy coloured clown they call the Sandman

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# Tiptoes to my room every night

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# Just to sprinkle stardust and to whisper

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# Go to sleep, everything is all right

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# I close my eyes

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# Then I drift away

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# Into the magic night

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# I softly say

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# A silent prayer. #

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I was touring England in '68.

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And I had one more show to do,

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which was in Bournemouth, I think. It was on a Sunday.

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One of my best friends came to the room and all he said was that...

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He said, "Your house has burned."

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And he said, "You lost Roy and Tony."

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'68 we had a house fire and I lost my two older brothers.

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Roy Dewayne and Anthony King.

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I remember wanting to go back.

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With all my might and...

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..Papaw stuck his hand on the top of my head

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and kept me from physically looking back,

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as we travelled to the neighbour's house, for shelter.

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The house blew up. There was an explosion.

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And my mother and father...

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..and little Wesley was blown outside in the yard

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and the other two children back into the house.

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Both my hands were big, clear blisters.

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They looked like softballs.

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And I don't know if it was like a self-defence sort of thing

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but, yeah, my hands, they still are kind of shiny and hairless...

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..from those scars.

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# In dreams

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# I walk with you

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# In dreams

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# I talk to you... #

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There was a moment there where I have a clear memory

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of leaving from the fire but not before and not for days after.

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Other than the fact that we lived in a motel for about six months.

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There was a pool there, so that was good

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but we had to, kind of, stay indoors a lot.

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That got old really fast.

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I was looking for a yard to play in

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and they wouldn't let me go outside,

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you know, for, I guess, obvious reasons.

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I sure didn't understand it at the time.

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# Only in dreams

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# In beautiful dreams. #

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I would ask Mother about things and she would explain to me.

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She said, "Son, give it a couple of years

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"and you'll feel a little better."

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And, two years to the day,

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er, almost to the day,

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she was right.

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I was doing a tour of England...

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..in 1968.

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I met Barbara.

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And she said she'd never heard of me

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and I didn't believe that.

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And then she told me a lot of things

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and I didn't believe her.

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Roy saw me across the room and wanted to meet me

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-so the energy first came from him.

-Yes.

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And I didn't know when I first talked to him

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that there was any interest,

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from him, except just a casual meeting.

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And we just started talking and really, really

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had something to talk about. I don't know.

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Anyway, she said, "That's a terrible looking jacket you have on."

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I said, "Thank you very much."

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It was a Levi jacket.

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But, er,...

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I said, "I just borrowed this so I wouldn't catch cold.

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"It belongs to my friend there."

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And I said, "Come to the show tomorrow night

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"and I'll show you my finest suit."

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She came to the show and she said,

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"You know, if you were trying to impress me, then you did all right."

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And, then, we were married in 1969.

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My family didn't even know for the first three months,

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or two months. I was 17 and I don't think it would have gone over

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very well for me to have come home and said that I fell in love with

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a rock and roller that was, like, 15 years older, so I had to hide it.

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# Sweet dream, baby

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# Sweet dream, baby

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# Sweet dream, baby

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# How long must I dream? #

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So, after the home burned, we needed a place to stay.

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Dad was building a big old beautiful home for his new wife

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and he would be out surveying the progress

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and it was a custom home so it took a little longer than usual

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and it turned out really terrific.

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The house was fantastic.

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It was really like a time capsule of what you would imagine

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a rock star in 1969 building.

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The back overlooked the lake

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and there were several acres of land

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and each floor had a fantastic deck that would look out

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and you could tell that it was, you know,

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just the layout of it was a sanctuary for my dad.

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My mom left her family, her home in Germany, and her language.

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She gave birth to me when she was 19.

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So she gave up everything she was and had been for him

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and created a new life.

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Because he lost the other two boys he was very afraid.

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My mom said that while she was pregnant with me

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that Roy was very apprehensive.

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You know, almost afraid to have another child that...

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..for what could happen.

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Um, so he was very conflicted about that

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and I definitely got a lot of the love that was meant

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for the two brothers that died, and so I am aware

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I was the, the golden boy, that saved Roy's life,

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I was the energy that saved his life.

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The Orbison household was divided into two houses,

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so with Mamaw and Papaw and Wesley down the street.

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Their house was just over the hill.

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It's really close but you can't see it over the horizon,

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but it's probably about a city block is as far away.

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Orbie Lee, Dad's father, he basically, he and Nadine together,

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they raised me and that's where I grew up, under their care.

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From their point of view they felt that,

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they felt to blame that they had let Roy's children die,

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and they felt they let him down so much, and so my grandmother

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in particular grabbed a hold of Wesley and never let go.

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She became like the momma alligator protecting the eggs.

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It didn't seem like that I was supposed to go with them.

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It felt like I was supposed to stay where I was, you know?

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It already felt like home.

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From '68 to '75, that little period was very protected,

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and when the family got a little bit bigger

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and he had Alex, it started to be fun again.

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The little boys are around, you know, things are really great

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cos they're so vibrant and full of life.

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So those guys, you know,

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would often come together to visit with their grandparents, you know?

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And myself.

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And just a glorious time.

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They seemed like they wanted to stay there

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even when it was time to go home for dinner or something like that,

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so it was a sad time for them to have to go back home.

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-How are you, huh?

-Fine.

-Fine. How was your day?

-Fine.

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-You got a kiss for your daddy?

-Yes.

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Mwah, mwah.

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I think this is probably a work of art by Alex.

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Oh, it's my house.

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There we go.

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"This is my house, by Alex."

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My dad had an incredible life.

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He was born in 1936, and when you look at history,

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1936 was the dead bottom of the depression.

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The crash was '29, and then they had also over-farmed

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and it made the Dust Bowl and my dad was born and lived

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in West Texas, and so this would have been the driest,

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dustiest, hardest hit area of the depression,

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and the fact that my grandparents even had a son then,

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in this blackness, and that this guy grew up to be

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this legendary character, is stunning to me.

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-I just dropped in. How are you doing there?

-Fine. Doing fine.

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This is Dad, this is Papaw.

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Yeah, this is... the headman around here.

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That's right! The number one.

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Papaw was a guitar player and a great singer

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and he was also Roy's road manager for many years until his retirement.

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At a certain point Roy was making more per night then Papaw

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made in a year and so Papaw quit his job in the oilfields

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and working on cars and followed Roy around.

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You know, my dad was super engaging in the things that he knew

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and it was amazing that he seemed to be good at everything,

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and for whatever random thing I was into he would, you know,

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come either out of his bedroom or back from being on the road

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or whatever and I would think I had developed some new tricks

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and he was like, "Oh, let me see what you're doing there,"

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and then of course he already had it mastered.

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He did so many things so well and he was so blessed.

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I don't know how he crammed so much experience into a life so short,

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52 years.

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When did he have time to become such a good driver,

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such a good painter, such a good pool player?

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How did he know about art in Europe and the Louvre in France

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and John Paul Sartre?

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Being his son that only got limited kind of visitation,

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he also had this intuition.

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He could look at you and say,

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"Hi, yeah, you know, I'm sorry I've been gone or whatever

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"but always remember that I love you," you know,

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"and you're on my mind all the time,"

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and it just kind of made everything better, just knowing

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that he was carrying a little part of you with him, you know?

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When you're in the middle of it,

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the amazing thing is how ordinary hanging out at the house

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seemed to me, because I never knew anything else

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and so, you know, you'd look over and there's Dad,

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passed out on a lounger chair, except Dad is Roy Orbison,

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and he's this legendary character who you never imagine

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just sun-tanning and sitting around and having a life.

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We were the only people besides Elvis

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and Johnny Cash that had a satellite dish.

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We had motorcycles, go-karts,

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whatever kind of fad came along in the '70s.

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We had a kiddie pool and when we changed it to a permanent pool,

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we were left with all these pipes and we would use those pipes

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to shoot bottle rockets at the boats that passed by.

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And Alex and I were out there shooting at the boats,

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Dad came out and we thought he was going to be mad at us, and he snuck

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down behind us and started shooting bottle rockets at the boats too.

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He always had attached to him this kind of this

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sad man of rock and roll, or the tragic man of rock and roll,

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but if you ask anybody that was around Roy for more than 10 minutes,

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they always remember the humour and that laugh.

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# Immanuel Kant was a real pissant who was very rarely stable

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# Heidegger, Heidegger was a boozy beggar

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# Who could think you under the table

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# David Hume could out-consume Schopenhauer and Hegel

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# And Wittgenstein was a beery swine

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# Who was just as sloshed as Schlegel. #

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Seeing him do Monty Python skits with Roy

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was like the funniest thing you've ever seen.

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He really, you know...

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..really nailed it down, you could see.

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Ladies and gentlemen, it gives me great pleasure now,

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and it has done for many years, to introduce a young man who's become

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quite a personal friend of mine, and I do mean that, Roy Orbison!

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# Just runnin' scared

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# Each place we go

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# So afraid

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# That he might show... #

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We couldn't go anywhere or do anything ever.

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We had to have bodyguards and our dogs were, you know,

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we went through 13 dogs - they would be stolen by the fans.

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So you couldn't blink,

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you couldn't walk into an airport without everything stopping.

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Complete silence.

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And...

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We got to do certain things, we got to go to Disneyland.

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They closed it down for Michael Jackson

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and then they closed it down for Roy, we were the next ones.

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Michael Jackson got a private kind of tour and they kept it open

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-and they did that for us when I was little.

-Ta-da!

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It was fully operational for two hours and we got to run around

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so you couldn't feel more special than that.

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-He just walks at him.

-Like menacing!

-Menacing.

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But I thought everyone was like that. That's...

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If your dad was a plumber he was king of the plumbers,

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and all of the other plumbers would come to see you.

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I actually didn't understand the mathematics that there could

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only be one Roy Orbison.

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This is the old writing couch.

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I'd like to get rid of it.

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Two of them I've worn the thing down so it has a nice comfy spot in it,

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from sitting for hours and hours...

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..and doing no good.

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I don't normally sit around and sing for anybody.

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There's a reason for that - I'm basically an introvert.

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And also, I never give a performance

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except in the studio when we make a record.

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In recent years I had...

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..I'd accepted the fact that a man should be able to cry

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when he wants to cry and...

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..that didn't bother me professionally,

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and evidently didn't bother me at all but that's why

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if I seem a little nervous when I play in the writing room,

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it's because I'm not alone, and these songs are such a part of me

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that you're aware of everything and everything around you.

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# I was all right for a while

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# I could smile for a while

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# I saw you last night

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# You held my hand so tight as you stopped to say hello

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# You wished me well

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# You couldn't tell that I'd been crying... #

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Like that, so...

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Still nervous. But...

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People always said "Roy, you wrote these sad songs,

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"you must be this sad guy,"

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and it would seem like the tragedies would happen

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and then you'd write Crying, or It's Over,

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but truthfully my dad wrote those songs

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when he was in a much better place and after the tragedies happened,

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that put my dad at a disconnect with his songwriting craft.

0:21:300:21:36

So you have to back off just enough when you're performing...

0:21:360:21:39

..or you'll get too involved and you'll break down and

0:21:400:21:44

if you're crying you can't sing, you know? It doesn't work that way.

0:21:440:21:46

If you're crying you can't sing Crying.

0:21:460:21:49

If you're crying you can't sing Crying, so you just

0:21:490:21:52

back off just a little bit and then give it all you've got.

0:21:520:21:55

In the middle of the '70s it puts Roy

0:21:550:21:58

alone in the middle of a world that had changed so far from what

0:21:580:22:02

he knew and the hope of getting the new songs that he would write

0:22:020:22:08

in front of people and getting the reaction that he had always got,

0:22:080:22:13

it totally withered away.

0:22:130:22:15

All of that happening, you know, that puts you

0:22:150:22:18

around the time that I'm born, with him very happy that his present

0:22:180:22:22

family is flourishing, but outside that everything had fallen apart.

0:22:220:22:27

-Excuse me, Mr Orpington?

-Yes?

0:22:300:22:34

Why do you wear your sunglasses when it's not sunny?

0:22:340:22:37

Same reason you wear your hat when it's not raining.

0:22:370:22:41

We'd like to do the new record for you, it goes like this. OK?

0:22:450:22:48

# Da da-da-da da-da

0:22:500:22:54

# Da-da-da da-da

0:22:540:22:56

# Da-da-da da-da

0:22:560:22:59

# Sweet Mama Blue... #

0:22:590:23:04

Well, I was spreading myself too thin.

0:23:040:23:09

I was making too many records and I was doing too much touring.

0:23:090:23:13

# That woman sings

0:23:130:23:16

# And plays piano like a dream... #

0:23:160:23:22

It's so funny cos people say, "Oh, well, Roy didn't do so well in the '70s."

0:23:220:23:26

You know, "He was off the map and his records weren't selling."

0:23:260:23:30

His new records didn't sell as well as his old records but

0:23:310:23:35

the guy literally had sold millions of his Greatest Hits records

0:23:350:23:39

and was one of the highest-paid entertainers.

0:23:390:23:43

Discover all the spine-tingling, immortal songs of

0:23:430:23:45

the most dynamic voice in the history of popular music.

0:23:450:23:48

# Blue angel... #

0:23:480:23:52

He really didn't have to prove himself for anything

0:23:520:23:55

because, you know, as a young man he had done exactly

0:23:550:23:58

what he wanted to do, so we just had a great time.

0:23:580:24:01

My dad was this car guy.

0:24:020:24:04

I mean, every kind of car you could imagine, you know,

0:24:040:24:07

four T-birds, Corvettes,

0:24:070:24:09

Cadillacs, Excaliburs,

0:24:090:24:12

there's a car we still can't figure out the name of it and

0:24:120:24:15

literally you look in our driveway and there's a fire truck from 1925.

0:24:150:24:21

If I'm going to be of any value to my family

0:24:220:24:24

I have to be sort of selfish and write my songs and go tour,

0:24:240:24:29

and earn a living,

0:24:290:24:33

else they're not provided for.

0:24:330:24:36

There's nothing you can do on tour except travel.

0:24:360:24:40

Land, sea or air, one way or the other, and that's always a bind.

0:24:400:24:44

If you're in a bus or an aeroplane

0:24:440:24:48

and you play cards or something like that.

0:24:480:24:50

You know, I listened to Dad's records a lot -

0:24:550:25:01

that's how I visited with him,

0:25:010:25:04

and I always really loved his voice and those recordings.

0:25:040:25:09

We had a really terrific... receiver that we had salvaged

0:25:090:25:16

from the house fire, and had a terrific sound to it,

0:25:160:25:22

and so I would have favourites that I would play like really a lot,

0:25:220:25:28

maybe obsessively, listening to the nuances of his voice

0:25:280:25:33

and singing along a little bit, you know.

0:25:330:25:36

# Yeah, running scared

0:25:360:25:39

# Afraid to lose

0:25:410:25:44

# If he came back

0:25:460:25:50

# Which one would you choose?

0:25:510:25:56

# Then all at once he was standing there

0:25:560:26:01

# So sure of himself, his head in the air

0:26:040:26:09

# Well, my heart was breaking

0:26:120:26:15

# Which one would it be?

0:26:150:26:18

# You turn around

0:26:180:26:20

# And walk away with me. #

0:26:200:26:26

Well, in my case, when you see me perform,

0:26:280:26:31

what happens is that I sing and the audience watches me do that.

0:26:310:26:35

I remember when I first played a nightclub in England,

0:26:370:26:41

I had just done concerts, and I was asked to do this

0:26:410:26:45

very famous nightclub

0:26:450:26:47

and everyone said, "What are you going to do?" You know?

0:26:470:26:50

I said, "I'm going to sing."

0:26:500:26:52

So that's about all I really do, is sing a few songs.

0:26:520:26:57

My dad hung out in that place where your voice breaks.

0:26:570:27:01

If you listen to Only The Lonely and Crying,

0:27:010:27:06

those lines, the place where every man wants to stay away from,

0:27:060:27:11

it's where your voice goes...ah!

0:27:110:27:13

It's where your voice cracks.

0:27:130:27:15

# You got to take

0:27:150:27:20

# If your lonely heart breaks... #

0:27:200:27:24

That is where Roy Orbison lived, that was his stronghold.

0:27:240:27:27

There, like the most sensitive bare place,

0:27:270:27:31

that's where he displayed his power, and he hung out in places

0:27:310:27:35

that were like embarrassing for people vocally.

0:27:350:27:40

I started singing this way because I was writing songs...

0:27:400:27:43

..and I, I wrote the melody that I heard in my head and I...

0:27:440:27:49

So then I had to sing those notes as well and I didn't know how high

0:27:490:27:53

or low you were supposed to go so I went where I wanted to.

0:27:530:27:56

There was a show in Memphis that Dad went to probably in the '70s

0:27:560:28:01

and Elvis called him out in the audience and, you know,

0:28:010:28:05

said that his good friend was here

0:28:050:28:09

and the greatest singer in the world,

0:28:090:28:12

and he introduced Roy Orbison.

0:28:120:28:14

The first show I ever did in Memphis, my record was number one,

0:28:140:28:18

and Elvis came along and was introduced at intermission.

0:28:180:28:22

Of course he stole the show but we had a talk, a chat afterwards,

0:28:220:28:27

and from then until his death we were very, very close.

0:28:270:28:31

When Elvis died, some of the fans stole his body.

0:28:310:28:35

And Roy started to get his gun and then started thinking,

0:28:350:28:41

and I could see that he was thinking something

0:28:410:28:43

and what he was thinking is that there was only two directions

0:28:430:28:46

these guys could have gone in that car, and he knew that

0:28:460:28:48

if they went east they would be driving through Nashville,

0:28:480:28:51

and he was going to get his car and go wait on the highway

0:28:510:28:54

because they had shown what the station wagon probably looked like.

0:28:540:28:58

He thought he could go out there and get Elvis...

0:28:580:29:02

..from these people. And he was going to do it.

0:29:020:29:05

I try to remain innocent and very, very young as long as I can,

0:29:050:29:09

but those reminders, like with Elvis,

0:29:090:29:13

and John, I have known all these people

0:29:130:29:16

and we were very close so that hurts a great deal.

0:29:160:29:21

And...and is a reminder, even when you want to try and stay young.

0:29:210:29:25

So here we go, '78, my father has a massive heart attack,

0:29:250:29:31

triple bypass surgery. You know, are we going to lose him?

0:29:310:29:36

And just really unexpected, you know, he's 42 - gosh.

0:29:370:29:41

And...now it's...

0:29:440:29:49

..more fragile than before.

0:29:520:29:55

I always thought, you know, maybe when he retires, you know,

0:29:550:29:59

maybe in those retirement years we would get to be closer and he

0:29:590:30:04

would have more time and I could be more, more handy for him, you know?

0:30:040:30:11

Instead of a little needy kid I could, you know, be an adult

0:30:110:30:15

and we could do adult things, but now some of this was in jeopardy.

0:30:150:30:19

I think the little one's coming pretty soon.

0:30:210:30:24

-Yeah.

-So you'd rather not be smoking on camera then?

0:30:270:30:30

Uh...

0:30:300:30:32

No, if we get something that you really love though and I've got

0:30:330:30:36

a cigarette in my mouth all the time, you know,

0:30:360:30:39

that's not going to fit in well when I explain to people

0:30:390:30:43

that I've had open heart surgery, you know?

0:30:430:30:46

They are going to say, "Well, you've got a death wish

0:30:460:30:48

"or something." You know? And then they get the wrong impression.

0:30:480:30:51

My dad had his first heart attack in '77, '78.

0:30:510:30:55

That puts my mom where... beside having kids,

0:30:550:31:00

she'd never done anything with her life.

0:31:000:31:03

And with the vulnerability of the heart attack and being at home for

0:31:040:31:08

longer periods of time, you know,

0:31:080:31:11

my mom had started to cope more with that with drinking,

0:31:110:31:16

and so she had started drinking a little bit more

0:31:160:31:20

and I think it played into her insecurities and she became

0:31:200:31:25

agoraphobic, where leaving the house at all seemed terrifying to her.

0:31:250:31:31

For me what was normal no longer was normal. You know, it changed.

0:31:320:31:38

There was a seismic shift in the home life in our house

0:31:380:31:42

and so that can all be terrifying...

0:31:420:31:46

..for a young child.

0:31:480:31:50

# Hey, hound dog man

0:31:500:31:54

# Where you been now, where you been?

0:31:540:31:59

# I wish that you were back

0:32:000:32:03

# It was too good to ever end

0:32:030:32:08

# Once in a while someone like you... #

0:32:080:32:12

When Austin City Limits was filmed that guy was my best friend...

0:32:120:32:17

# Hey, hound dog man... #

0:32:170:32:21

..the way his voice had a sort of vulnerability and the vibrato

0:32:210:32:26

was different than in early, it wasn't quite as confident

0:32:260:32:29

as early years, and wasn't quite as mature as it was in the later years.

0:32:290:32:33

It's very vulnerable.

0:32:330:32:35

# You gave the world a whole lot of joy... #

0:32:350:32:40

On the Austin City Limits concert there was one song that

0:32:400:32:43

he didn't record anywhere else, it wasn't taped,

0:32:430:32:46

and so that we have film of Hound Dog Man.

0:32:460:32:49

# The way you sang rock and roll and blues... #

0:32:490:32:54

Hound Dog Man is the best Elvis tribute song there is.

0:32:540:32:57

It's just so beautiful and it's there on that video.

0:32:570:33:00

# And the memory that it brings

0:33:000:33:04

# Hey, hound dog man

0:33:040:33:08

# My old friend, play it again. #

0:33:080:33:12

Time is very important.

0:33:130:33:16

A lot of brilliant people through the ages have written that

0:33:160:33:19

time is the most important thing, but if you take that literally

0:33:190:33:25

you get very paranoid and say, you know,

0:33:250:33:28

"I might not be around tomorrow, I'd better hurry up today

0:33:280:33:31

"and do everything I'm going to do today."

0:33:310:33:34

When it became time for my dad to want to reclaim his throne

0:33:340:33:37

because there was a time when the record industry had changed

0:33:370:33:41

and we had had record deals and publishing deals go sour

0:33:410:33:45

and my dad consciously just said, "I'm not playing that game

0:33:450:33:49

"because I tour, I'm Roy Orbison

0:33:490:33:51

"I make enough money to have a happy life

0:33:510:33:53

"and I don't like disco music anyway."

0:33:530:33:56

And a lot of things happened around 1984, and my dad started

0:33:560:34:01

to want to make a run for the top again, and this very much involved

0:34:010:34:07

my mom becoming his manager and them seeing this thing through together.

0:34:070:34:13

Roy was signed to Virgin Records

0:34:130:34:16

and all of a sudden by meeting with me, they just said, "Listen,

0:34:160:34:20

"you need to help us, you need to manage Roy,"

0:34:200:34:22

so that's the way it came about, because I had a vision

0:34:220:34:25

and they have the same vision and it was just magic, you know?

0:34:250:34:28

In a way my dad was a man with a plan

0:34:330:34:37

before my mom quit drinking,

0:34:370:34:39

and then having Barbara totally on board

0:34:390:34:43

and moving into a management role officially...

0:34:430:34:46

..Barbara finds her voice as a human being

0:34:480:34:52

and together they push through and the plan is working.

0:34:520:34:56

When you're young and you walk into a life that is so big, yeah,

0:34:570:35:03

you lose yourself, but then when it was time for me

0:35:030:35:06

to sort of understand who I was

0:35:060:35:09

and what I wanted to do with my life, luckily it happened

0:35:090:35:15

that Roy could really hear me to give me that place.

0:35:150:35:19

Moving to California was another bold move, you know.

0:35:190:35:24

Roy sold the house that we had lived in for 30 years.

0:35:240:35:27

I still look back and I go like,

0:35:270:35:28

"I don't know why we sold the house," but this was a real break.

0:35:280:35:33

The strange thing about California

0:35:330:35:35

was that my parents went to California for a writing session.

0:35:350:35:38

I'm ten years old

0:35:380:35:40

and they went in the last couple of weeks of summer

0:35:400:35:44

and they never came back and so I started school in the fifth grade

0:35:440:35:48

with no parents at home.

0:35:480:35:51

I would get myself ready and go down and have the driver drive to school.

0:35:510:35:55

Then there was a phone call.

0:35:570:35:59

My mom and dad said, "Well, we're in Malibu and we love it here.

0:35:590:36:03

"What would you say if we said do you want to move to Malibu?"

0:36:030:36:08

And I literally just screamed out loud

0:36:080:36:12

and I couldn't believe what was happening.

0:36:120:36:15

It sounded like a dream.

0:36:150:36:18

So, now we have the family moving to Malibu.

0:36:180:36:23

Mamaw was already bedridden by this point.

0:36:250:36:31

She had crushed one of her hips

0:36:310:36:34

and had to have reconstructive surgery

0:36:340:36:37

and so we couldn't make the move.

0:36:370:36:41

He started hanging out with U2 and David Lynch

0:36:430:36:47

and T Bone Burnett and Jeff Lynne

0:36:470:36:50

and from those projects, we had the Wilburys,

0:36:500:36:53

we had the Mystery Girl album

0:36:530:36:55

and we had the Black and White Night with Bruce Springsteen.

0:36:550:36:58

And then you go...

0:36:580:36:59

# Sweet... #

0:36:590:37:00

-You might want to go...

-Yeah, I may have to.

0:37:000:37:03

-# Sweet dreams, baby

-Baby... #

0:37:030:37:06

-After four of those.

-After four of those.

0:37:060:37:08

-So, we do the first breakdown.

-Yeah.

0:37:080:37:10

-VOICEOVER:

-I'm a bit overwhelmed.

0:37:100:37:12

-VOICEOVER:

-I'm very grateful

0:37:120:37:14

that all these wonderful people came by to help me out.

0:37:140:37:19

Hup!

0:37:190:37:21

# Sweet dreams, baby

0:37:210:37:26

# Sweet dreams, baby

0:37:270:37:31

# Sweet dreams, baby

0:37:330:37:38

# Sweet dreams, baby

0:37:390:37:44

# Oh, how long must I dream? #

0:37:440:37:51

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:37:560:38:00

The amazing thing is that this isn't a granted

0:38:000:38:02

that Roy Orbison's actually going to have a comeback

0:38:020:38:05

and the fact that everything started to click

0:38:050:38:08

and you had these crazy things, like the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame...

0:38:080:38:11

In '75, we went into the studio to make Born To Run.

0:38:110:38:15

I wanted to make a record with words like Bob Dylan

0:38:150:38:17

that sounded like Phil Spector, but most of all,

0:38:170:38:19

I wanted to sing like Roy Orbison.

0:38:190:38:22

Now, everybody knows that nobody sings like Roy Orbison.

0:38:220:38:26

So, all I want to say is congratulations,

0:38:260:38:29

thanks for the inspiration and, ohhhh, mercy!

0:38:290:38:33

David Lynch used In Dreams in a movie.

0:38:370:38:41

# In dreams, I walk with you... #

0:38:410:38:47

There was nothing cooler in pop history for teenagers

0:38:490:38:53

and adults alike than David Lynch to feature In Dreams in a movie.

0:38:530:38:59

I mean, it was so shocking and crazy and different

0:38:590:39:01

and it changed the pop culture where all of a sudden, everyone,

0:39:010:39:06

and literally everyone, wanted a piece of my dad, you know,

0:39:060:39:09

just like young teenage girls trying to mob him

0:39:090:39:12

to get his signature and so Roy's on top of the world again.

0:39:120:39:17

# California blue

0:39:170:39:21

# California blue... #

0:39:210:39:23

Roy was working with Jeff Lynne in the studio

0:39:230:39:26

and Tom Petty and George came to America to cut a song for his album

0:39:260:39:32

and they phoned Bob and there they were.

0:39:320:39:35

# Been beat up and battered around... #

0:39:380:39:42

In May of that year, he had called for my birthday

0:39:430:39:47

and they were in the studio and he said, "I've got somebody that I want

0:39:470:39:51

"to have wish you happy birthday,"

0:39:510:39:53

and on the phone,

0:39:530:39:56

-ENGLISH ACCENT:

-"Hello, Wes, happy birthday."

0:39:560:39:59

The next guy sounds like he's imitating the first guy.

0:39:590:40:02

"Hello, Wes, happy birthday!" And he starts cracking up.

0:40:020:40:06

By the time the third guy's on the phone, they're laughing so hard

0:40:060:40:09

that they can't even talk any more.

0:40:090:40:12

# Happy birthday to you! #

0:40:120:40:15

And so Dad gets on the phone just giggling.

0:40:150:40:18

"Oh, man, that was Tom Petty, Jeff Lynne, George Harrison."

0:40:180:40:23

I'm like, "Oh, my goodness!"

0:40:230:40:25

These are some of my terrific heroes, you know.

0:40:250:40:27

These are rock and rollers, you know.

0:40:270:40:30

This is a band, are you kidding?

0:40:300:40:32

That's, like, the coolest thing I've ever heard.

0:40:320:40:34

The Wilburys weren't the saving grace,

0:40:340:40:37

you know, my dad was at zero and pulled him out.

0:40:370:40:40

Everything in my dad's life was already working

0:40:400:40:44

and as a result of that, the Wilburys happened

0:40:440:40:48

and my dad's at top form.

0:40:480:40:51

# Won't you show me that you really care?

0:40:510:40:56

# Everybody's got somebody

0:40:590:41:02

# To lean on

0:41:020:41:07

# Put your body next to mine

0:41:070:41:10

# And dream on... #

0:41:100:41:14

He was able to orchestrate this high note

0:41:160:41:24

that we get from some of his songs, you know.

0:41:240:41:28

It's like the sad songs happened before the tragedies

0:41:280:41:35

and then the renaissance happened

0:41:350:41:37

before the end of the song, you know.

0:41:370:41:39

So, Roy Orbison is alive and kicking, as they say in English.

0:41:390:41:42

Alive and well and I guess I've never been busier

0:41:420:41:45

or more successful. It's amazing.

0:41:450:41:47

-Are you happy?

-Very, very happy, yeah.

0:41:470:41:50

Roy and I had been in Europe for just a pleasure trip

0:41:500:41:53

and we said goodbye in England

0:41:530:41:55

and he was going to fly to tour one more night in Boston

0:41:550:42:00

and Akron, I guess two more nights,

0:42:000:42:01

and go home to Nashville to wish his mum

0:42:010:42:04

and our other kid Wesley merry Christmas

0:42:040:42:08

and then we were going to join and spend Christmas somewhere else.

0:42:080:42:11

When he comes to the house for the visit,

0:42:110:42:14

he's really excited about the new project

0:42:140:42:20

and, "I've got a little time to hang out with you, man,

0:42:200:42:23

"just me and you, and I've got the new record."

0:42:230:42:28

And things are really going great, you know.

0:42:280:42:32

For about an hour.

0:42:320:42:33

Then he's unresponsive in the bathroom.

0:42:340:42:39

Didn't want to check on him.

0:42:410:42:43

But I had this sense, something didn't feel right.

0:42:430:42:50

I mean, it really didn't feel right. What could be wrong, you know?

0:42:500:42:56

"Hey, Dad," you know? No answer.

0:42:580:43:01

I was like, "OK. Hey, Dad?"

0:43:020:43:09

No answer so I had to run and get a phone

0:43:090:43:14

and I was too freaked out.

0:43:140:43:18

They phoned in the middle of the night and they woke me up

0:43:180:43:20

in the middle of the night and then my mom just told me

0:43:200:43:26

pretty quickly in one sentence...

0:43:260:43:29

There was no beating around the bush, just like everybody...

0:43:290:43:32

It's always so abrupt, there's no real way to say it so she said,

0:43:320:43:37

"Roy Kelton..."

0:43:370:43:39

I don't even know how she said it.

0:43:410:43:44

She said, "Roy Kelton, your dad died last night."

0:43:440:43:47

# I was all right for a while

0:43:490:43:54

# I could smile for a while

0:43:540:43:58

# But I saw you last night

0:43:580:44:01

# You held my hand so tight

0:44:010:44:04

# As you stopped to say hello

0:44:040:44:09

# Oh, you wished me well

0:44:090:44:12

# You couldn't tell... #

0:44:120:44:14

You can't describe what it's like to lose someone that special

0:44:140:44:19

and so quickly and so, you know,

0:44:190:44:24

it was earth-shattering for me as a son.

0:44:240:44:29

Something kind of beautiful happened that night

0:44:290:44:31

because my mom was far away and the press was attacking so much,

0:44:310:44:36

the record company, Virgin, and all the record companies, they...

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They hired limousines to form a wall down the street

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so the press couldn't get there

0:44:470:44:48

so they blocked off the whole street with 30 or 40 long limousines

0:44:480:44:53

so we had a wall of limousines protecting us from the press

0:44:530:44:56

and then my mom got the next flight out

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and she flew and came to be with us.

0:45:000:45:03

Getting to hear the record was a little less than happy news.

0:45:030:45:09

It was kind of, you know, this heavy, heavy bit of music

0:45:090:45:16

that was new, but it was also kind of a...

0:45:160:45:22

..an end, as well.

0:45:250:45:28

This was all of the new music he was going to do.

0:45:280:45:32

This was kind of maybe a gift, if you will.

0:45:320:45:38

So, I didn't get to listen to it with him.

0:45:440:45:47

It took a couple of days for the dust to settle,

0:45:490:45:54

then I put it on and, of course, the first track is You Got It.

0:45:540:46:02

And, man, oh, man... Gosh, it was...

0:46:020:46:07

You know, just so wonderful to hear how good...

0:46:100:46:18

# Anything you want

0:46:200:46:23

# You got it

0:46:230:46:25

# Anything you need

0:46:250:46:28

# You got it

0:46:280:46:29

# Anything at all

0:46:290:46:31

# You got it, baby

0:46:310:46:36

-# Anything at all

-You got it

0:46:390:46:43

# Baby... #

0:46:430:46:44

When I see the home videos,

0:46:440:46:46

the one thing it really drives home is we were so loved.

0:46:460:46:49

There's a little footage of my dad following me over to the beach

0:46:490:46:57

and he's videotaping and he's trying to get a candid shot of me,

0:46:570:47:04

I want to jump up and down and do all this stuff.

0:47:040:47:07

There's one chance that he gets when I'm looking at the waves

0:47:070:47:12

and he's filming me and, er...

0:47:120:47:15

ROY LAUGHS

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It's... It's all there in one moment. It's really, er...

0:47:200:47:25

Cos I felt loved and I do feel loved,

0:47:270:47:30

but it's been a long time and you forget a little bit.

0:47:300:47:35

For 20 years, we were together and at the time when he passed away,

0:47:350:47:39

we had found a way of living where we concluded each day

0:47:390:47:42

with one another so there was not that...lots of regrets.

0:47:420:47:47

There weren't any and I always said that I told Roy everything

0:47:470:47:52

that I needed to tell him during those 20 years, you know,

0:47:520:47:54

whether I loved him or what I didn't like about him

0:47:540:47:57

and we laughed lots so there was a feeling of completeness

0:47:570:48:02

when he passed away,

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-which kind of helps with the grief, you know.

-Absolutely.

0:48:040:48:07

And I have incredible boys and I feel more sad for them

0:48:070:48:12

because I don't think they got to conclude

0:48:120:48:17

because they were 13 and 18 and 22.

0:48:170:48:20

After my dad had died, we looked at photos

0:48:200:48:24

and laid them all over the floor

0:48:240:48:27

and so they had all these wedding pictures

0:48:270:48:30

and it was probably the first time in my life I had ever thought

0:48:300:48:33

about someone other than myself and I just thought, "Holy shit!"

0:48:330:48:37

You know, "Holy crap, what my mom is going through at this time!"

0:48:370:48:43

And then these things keep happening -

0:48:430:48:47

the Grammy for Pretty Woman...

0:48:470:48:50

-Roy Orbison.

-CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:48:500:48:53

I know it was one of the great honours of Barbara's life

0:49:000:49:02

to accept the Grammy Award on Roy's behalf in 1991.

0:49:020:49:06

I was there, too.

0:49:060:49:08

I got up on stage and stood just a little to the right

0:49:080:49:11

and every achievement was another milestone.

0:49:110:49:15

It was kind of like that part was a game, that was the game.

0:49:150:49:19

And Mom had accepted Dad into this Songwriters Hall of Fame.

0:49:190:49:24

This is truly an honour to be here tonight

0:49:240:49:26

and accept this award on behalf of Roy the songwriter.

0:49:260:49:30

Her first thought was probably that there was a song...

0:49:320:49:35

There was an outtake of Careless Heart

0:49:350:49:37

and she started looking for this outtake of Careless Heart

0:49:370:49:40

and she realised that there were enough outtakes

0:49:400:49:43

that she could make a great album.

0:49:430:49:45

I didn't even know if I wanted to finish this album

0:49:450:49:48

and I arrived at the studio

0:49:480:49:50

and everybody had gone and just Don and the engineer were at the studio

0:49:500:49:56

and I looked around and it was very quiet and at that moment,

0:49:560:50:00

Don turned on the controls

0:50:000:50:04

and I heard the words that Roy was singing -

0:50:040:50:08

"reach out and let it touch your soul".

0:50:080:50:11

# And give in to love... #

0:50:130:50:16

And I don't know what happened to me.

0:50:160:50:18

I knew that the album would be all right without Roy actually

0:50:180:50:22

checking every little detail.

0:50:220:50:26

For us as a family, my mom was going to live forever.

0:50:260:50:31

She was just a tank and she was so, you know...

0:50:310:50:38

When she pursued something, she pursued it so wholeheartedly

0:50:380:50:43

and she would just get the answer that she wanted a lot of times

0:50:430:50:47

and so you see Roy Orbison in these amazing places and, yeah,

0:50:470:50:51

he's the most incredible singer ever known to man,

0:50:510:50:55

but a lot of those situations were just

0:50:550:50:57

because Barbara wouldn't take no for an answer and so, you know,

0:50:570:51:05

people don't know because my mom didn't tell anyone

0:51:050:51:09

that she was sick, but she died super-unexpectedly,

0:51:090:51:12

like the same thing happens again, you know?

0:51:120:51:16

We think that we're getting her out of the hospital and we're not.

0:51:160:51:21

# Golden days before they end

0:51:230:51:27

# Whisper secrets to the wind

0:51:290:51:33

# Your baby won't be near you any more... #

0:51:350:51:43

The first time that Wesley and Roy and I had actually seen each other,

0:51:430:51:49

we were just so happy to be alive and to love each other as brothers

0:51:490:51:53

and so the obvious thing would be to carry the torch

0:51:530:51:59

and to do what our family has done

0:51:590:52:04

since 1944.

0:52:040:52:09

She had, you know, five or six big things

0:52:090:52:11

that we had worked on for 20 years,

0:52:110:52:12

things that my dad had worked on and not quite completed

0:52:120:52:16

so she felt this obligation to him

0:52:160:52:19

to make sure that this man's great works were completed

0:52:190:52:22

and now we have the same obligation to her.

0:52:220:52:26

There was a really dark time after Barbara had died

0:52:260:52:29

where literally everyone was wondering,

0:52:290:52:32

"Are these guys going to pull this off?"

0:52:320:52:36

And, I mean, everything. You could see there was just like a...

0:52:360:52:40

And slowly but surely, I think that we've been doing well.

0:52:400:52:46

-Listen, guys, shall we play that take back?

-Yeah, yeah.

0:52:460:52:48

It sounded great, I thought.

0:52:480:52:51

Things are really going good for us

0:52:510:52:53

and it's wonderful to be working with my brothers,

0:52:530:52:57

telling the story and expanding the legacy, having children

0:52:570:53:04

and being a family together.

0:53:040:53:08

The latest project with the Royal Philharmonic

0:53:080:53:12

is another one I'm really, really proud of.

0:53:120:53:16

We got to play with the orchestra and be with my brothers.

0:53:160:53:20

It's really terrific.

0:53:200:53:21

# Pretty woman, talk a while

0:53:230:53:27

# Pretty woman, give your smile to me

0:53:270:53:32

# Pretty woman, yeah, yeah, yeah

0:53:340:53:37

# Pretty woman, look my way... #

0:53:370:53:42

With the Royal Philharmonic project, the sessions were so amazing.

0:53:420:53:48

I mean, we're talking Number 2 Room at Abbey Road.

0:53:480:53:52

That's The Beatles' room and then in Nashville,

0:53:520:53:55

Wesley, Roy and I got together

0:53:550:53:58

at the studio that my dad owned when I was born.

0:53:580:54:03

This is the place that my dad would have spent the most other time

0:54:030:54:07

besides at home playing with us kids

0:54:070:54:10

and so here we are, 40 years later, all together.

0:54:100:54:15

In the middle of all of this,

0:54:150:54:17

baby Roy had a suit that looked similar to this.

0:54:170:54:20

It was like a little vest or something, you know.

0:54:200:54:22

The kid is so talented at keeping time and clapping.

0:54:220:54:27

We need to have him on the record and so Papa Roy,

0:54:270:54:32

in this case, which is Roy Orbison Jr,

0:54:320:54:35

gets a guitar and puts it on the floor

0:54:350:54:38

and the guitar's perfectly tuned and Baby Roy strums the guitar.

0:54:380:54:42

And it's the first thing that you hear on Oh, Pretty Woman

0:54:450:54:48

and so you have these, like, three generations of Orbison men

0:54:480:54:52

and you have all three Roys on this one recording

0:54:520:54:56

and it's a surreal feeling.

0:54:560:54:59

My dad would say, "I love you," and I would say, "I love you, too."

0:55:080:55:11

One time, he told me really seriously,

0:55:110:55:13

he said, "Son, you'll never know how much I love you..."

0:55:130:55:16

He said, "Son, you'll never know how much I love you

0:55:180:55:21

"until you have a son of your own."

0:55:210:55:23

And I didn't fully realise what he meant

0:55:230:55:27

until I saw little Baby Roy playing music

0:55:270:55:30

on this Royal Philharmonic song Pretty Woman

0:55:300:55:33

and it was like a chain of lightning that...

0:55:330:55:36

You know, I felt that that's that torch we're talking about,

0:55:360:55:39

that's that music.

0:55:390:55:41

I felt that chain of lightning going through me as I looked at him

0:55:410:55:44

and through that, I know what he would have seen

0:55:440:55:47

by Alex and Wesley and I playing on this album.

0:55:470:55:50

He would have shed a tear over that, for sure.

0:55:500:55:52

# There goes my baby

0:55:520:55:56

# And there goes my heart... #

0:55:560:55:59

He was just really a terrific person to have known

0:55:590:56:03

and those of us who were lucky enough to love him,

0:56:030:56:08

we really got something special, you know.

0:56:080:56:10

# Know why I-I

0:56:120:56:15

# I cry... #

0:56:150:56:18

To experience life through the prism of those songs,

0:56:180:56:21

they were the lessons that we learned about relationships

0:56:210:56:25

and love and heartbreak.

0:56:250:56:26

They were the soundtrack to our lives

0:56:280:56:30

and we ended up living the sadness in those songs.

0:56:300:56:36

# Only the lonely

0:56:360:56:40

# Only the lonely... #

0:56:400:56:43

It's crazy to find your real calling later in life

0:56:430:56:49

and, you know, I'm a drummer by trade, but...

0:56:490:56:53

..looking after my dad and my brothers is my true calling.

0:56:560:57:00

# Maybe tomorrow

0:57:030:57:05

# A new romance... #

0:57:050:57:09

They would always ask him, "Roy, how would you like to be remembered?"

0:57:090:57:14

And he would just say, "I would just like to be remembered."

0:57:140:57:18

# You gotta take

0:57:180:57:23

# If your lonely heart breaks

0:57:230:57:28

# Only the lonely. #

0:57:280:57:31

CHEERING

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