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I'm Alex Orbison, Roy Orbison's youngest son. | 0:00:03 | 0:00:06 | |
Along with my brothers Roy Jr and Wesley, | 0:00:06 | 0:00:08 | |
we're here to tell you our family's story. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:11 | |
# Pretty woman walking down the street... # | 0:00:13 | 0:00:17 | |
It's a dramatic and emotional story | 0:00:17 | 0:00:19 | |
that we still find difficult to tell. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:22 | |
Sometimes I know that I'm getting emotional | 0:00:22 | 0:00:25 | |
and I want to veer away... | 0:00:25 | 0:00:27 | |
..but I realise it's just best to let the emotions fly free. | 0:00:27 | 0:00:33 | |
HE GROWLS | 0:00:33 | 0:00:36 | |
# Pretty woman, stop on by... # | 0:00:39 | 0:00:42 | |
They say that time... | 0:00:42 | 0:00:45 | |
..makes it better | 0:00:45 | 0:00:48 | |
but, you know, that's one of the biggest lies. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:51 | |
Time doesn't make it better. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:53 | |
It just...time stops. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:56 | |
# Pretty woman, look my way | 0:00:58 | 0:01:01 | |
# Pretty woman, say you'll stay with me... # | 0:01:01 | 0:01:07 | |
It's not like you think about it every day, all day | 0:01:07 | 0:01:10 | |
but it's really just there and, then, when you visit it, | 0:01:10 | 0:01:14 | |
it's just as fresh as it was, | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
when it happened. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:18 | |
# ..be mine tonight | 0:01:18 | 0:01:25 | |
# Pretty woman, don't walk on by | 0:01:27 | 0:01:29 | |
# Pretty woman, don't make me cry... # | 0:01:29 | 0:01:34 | |
Our story starts in the spring of 1966. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:37 | |
My dad's star was shining at its brightest. | 0:01:39 | 0:01:43 | |
He'd had a string of top 10 hits around the world... | 0:01:43 | 0:01:45 | |
..was married to his childhood sweetheart Claudette... | 0:01:47 | 0:01:50 | |
..and, together, they lived in Nashville | 0:01:53 | 0:01:54 | |
with their sons Roy Dewayne, Anthony King, | 0:01:54 | 0:01:57 | |
and their new baby Wesley. | 0:01:57 | 0:02:00 | |
I remember things in terms of, roughly, | 0:02:01 | 0:02:06 | |
years where big events in my life happened. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:11 | |
It started in '65 with being born. | 0:02:13 | 0:02:16 | |
That's the biggest event. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:19 | |
Then, a year later, we lost my mother Claudette | 0:02:19 | 0:02:23 | |
in a motorcycle accident. '66. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:25 | |
Claudette and I went riding on motorcycles. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:30 | |
We were... | 0:02:30 | 0:02:32 | |
..about six miles from home. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:35 | |
I made a stoplight, and turned left and then stopped. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:41 | |
And she wasn't behind me. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:45 | |
So I turned around and went back | 0:02:46 | 0:02:48 | |
and a pick-up truck had pulled out in front of her. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:51 | |
So I came home and I had to tell the children. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:58 | |
Told the oldest boy that his mother wasn't coming home. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:01 | |
I don't know much at all about her other than they say | 0:03:04 | 0:03:07 | |
that she was very sweet. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:08 | |
And a pretty woman. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:11 | |
But I was always keen to ask my father, for instance... | 0:03:11 | 0:03:18 | |
..and he would say, | 0:03:19 | 0:03:20 | |
"That's a little hard for me to talk about, with you, | 0:03:20 | 0:03:23 | |
"because you favour her so much," you know. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:26 | |
"You remind me of her." | 0:03:27 | 0:03:28 | |
"So, I don't mind talking about it, | 0:03:28 | 0:03:31 | |
"but just... Just give me a minute," you know. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:35 | |
Most of my love just went to the children. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:38 | |
Er... | 0:03:39 | 0:03:40 | |
My world, sort of, centred around them. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:45 | |
I didn't stop working, or anything. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:49 | |
Working is... | 0:03:51 | 0:03:52 | |
..is very therapeutic. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:56 | |
Right now, it's top of the bill time | 0:03:56 | 0:03:58 | |
and we have just about America's most favourite visitor to our charts. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:01 | |
I mean, the one and only Roy Orbison. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:03 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:04:03 | 0:04:04 | |
Now, what I did, I'd go through the motions | 0:04:07 | 0:04:09 | |
of doing whatever I'd normally do. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:11 | |
I don't think you should analyse anything... | 0:04:12 | 0:04:15 | |
..immediately after it happened. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:18 | |
And I think you need to reflect just a little bit. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:22 | |
# A candy coloured clown they call the Sandman | 0:04:22 | 0:04:25 | |
# Tiptoes to my room every night | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
# Just to sprinkle stardust and to whisper | 0:04:29 | 0:04:33 | |
# Go to sleep, everything is all right | 0:04:33 | 0:04:37 | |
# I close my eyes | 0:04:38 | 0:04:40 | |
# Then I drift away | 0:04:43 | 0:04:47 | |
# Into the magic night | 0:04:49 | 0:04:53 | |
# I softly say | 0:04:53 | 0:04:57 | |
# A silent prayer. # | 0:04:58 | 0:05:01 | |
I was touring England in '68. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:04 | |
And I had one more show to do, | 0:05:04 | 0:05:07 | |
which was in Bournemouth, I think. It was on a Sunday. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:12 | |
One of my best friends came to the room and all he said was that... | 0:05:13 | 0:05:19 | |
He said, "Your house has burned." | 0:05:20 | 0:05:23 | |
And he said, "You lost Roy and Tony." | 0:05:23 | 0:05:27 | |
'68 we had a house fire and I lost my two older brothers. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:31 | |
Roy Dewayne and Anthony King. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:36 | |
I remember wanting to go back. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:39 | |
With all my might and... | 0:05:42 | 0:05:44 | |
..Papaw stuck his hand on the top of my head | 0:05:46 | 0:05:50 | |
and kept me from physically looking back, | 0:05:50 | 0:05:53 | |
as we travelled to the neighbour's house, for shelter. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:57 | |
The house blew up. There was an explosion. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:00 | |
And my mother and father... | 0:06:01 | 0:06:03 | |
..and little Wesley was blown outside in the yard | 0:06:05 | 0:06:07 | |
and the other two children back into the house. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:10 | |
Both my hands were big, clear blisters. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:13 | |
They looked like softballs. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:16 | |
And I don't know if it was like a self-defence sort of thing | 0:06:18 | 0:06:22 | |
but, yeah, my hands, they still are kind of shiny and hairless... | 0:06:22 | 0:06:27 | |
..from those scars. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:30 | |
# In dreams | 0:06:31 | 0:06:33 | |
# I walk with you | 0:06:33 | 0:06:36 | |
# In dreams | 0:06:39 | 0:06:42 | |
# I talk to you... # | 0:06:42 | 0:06:46 | |
There was a moment there where I have a clear memory | 0:06:48 | 0:06:52 | |
of leaving from the fire but not before and not for days after. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:57 | |
Other than the fact that we lived in a motel for about six months. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:02 | |
There was a pool there, so that was good | 0:07:03 | 0:07:05 | |
but we had to, kind of, stay indoors a lot. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:08 | |
That got old really fast. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:12 | |
I was looking for a yard to play in | 0:07:12 | 0:07:14 | |
and they wouldn't let me go outside, | 0:07:14 | 0:07:16 | |
you know, for, I guess, obvious reasons. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:19 | |
I sure didn't understand it at the time. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:22 | |
# Only in dreams | 0:07:23 | 0:07:29 | |
# In beautiful dreams. # | 0:07:31 | 0:07:39 | |
I would ask Mother about things and she would explain to me. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:47 | |
She said, "Son, give it a couple of years | 0:07:47 | 0:07:49 | |
"and you'll feel a little better." | 0:07:49 | 0:07:51 | |
And, two years to the day, | 0:07:52 | 0:07:55 | |
er, almost to the day, | 0:07:55 | 0:07:57 | |
she was right. | 0:07:57 | 0:07:58 | |
I was doing a tour of England... | 0:07:59 | 0:08:02 | |
..in 1968. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:04 | |
I met Barbara. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:06 | |
And she said she'd never heard of me | 0:08:06 | 0:08:11 | |
and I didn't believe that. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:14 | |
And then she told me a lot of things | 0:08:14 | 0:08:17 | |
and I didn't believe her. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:18 | |
Roy saw me across the room and wanted to meet me | 0:08:18 | 0:08:21 | |
-so the energy first came from him. -Yes. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:23 | |
And I didn't know when I first talked to him | 0:08:23 | 0:08:27 | |
that there was any interest, | 0:08:27 | 0:08:29 | |
from him, except just a casual meeting. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:33 | |
And we just started talking and really, really | 0:08:33 | 0:08:35 | |
had something to talk about. I don't know. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:39 | |
Anyway, she said, "That's a terrible looking jacket you have on." | 0:08:39 | 0:08:42 | |
I said, "Thank you very much." | 0:08:42 | 0:08:44 | |
It was a Levi jacket. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:46 | |
But, er,... | 0:08:46 | 0:08:47 | |
I said, "I just borrowed this so I wouldn't catch cold. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:51 | |
"It belongs to my friend there." | 0:08:51 | 0:08:53 | |
And I said, "Come to the show tomorrow night | 0:08:53 | 0:08:55 | |
"and I'll show you my finest suit." | 0:08:55 | 0:08:58 | |
She came to the show and she said, | 0:08:58 | 0:09:02 | |
"You know, if you were trying to impress me, then you did all right." | 0:09:02 | 0:09:08 | |
And, then, we were married in 1969. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:10 | |
My family didn't even know for the first three months, | 0:09:10 | 0:09:13 | |
or two months. I was 17 and I don't think it would have gone over | 0:09:13 | 0:09:17 | |
very well for me to have come home and said that I fell in love with | 0:09:17 | 0:09:21 | |
a rock and roller that was, like, 15 years older, so I had to hide it. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:27 | |
# Sweet dream, baby | 0:09:27 | 0:09:30 | |
# Sweet dream, baby | 0:09:31 | 0:09:34 | |
# Sweet dream, baby | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
# How long must I dream? # | 0:09:41 | 0:09:46 | |
So, after the home burned, we needed a place to stay. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:49 | |
Dad was building a big old beautiful home for his new wife | 0:09:50 | 0:09:55 | |
and he would be out surveying the progress | 0:09:55 | 0:10:00 | |
and it was a custom home so it took a little longer than usual | 0:10:00 | 0:10:06 | |
and it turned out really terrific. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:08 | |
The house was fantastic. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:10 | |
It was really like a time capsule of what you would imagine | 0:10:10 | 0:10:14 | |
a rock star in 1969 building. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:17 | |
The back overlooked the lake | 0:10:17 | 0:10:20 | |
and there were several acres of land | 0:10:20 | 0:10:23 | |
and each floor had a fantastic deck that would look out | 0:10:23 | 0:10:26 | |
and you could tell that it was, you know, | 0:10:26 | 0:10:29 | |
just the layout of it was a sanctuary for my dad. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:31 | |
My mom left her family, her home in Germany, and her language. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:37 | |
She gave birth to me when she was 19. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:41 | |
So she gave up everything she was and had been for him | 0:10:41 | 0:10:44 | |
and created a new life. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:46 | |
Because he lost the other two boys he was very afraid. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:51 | |
My mom said that while she was pregnant with me | 0:10:51 | 0:10:55 | |
that Roy was very apprehensive. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
You know, almost afraid to have another child that... | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
..for what could happen. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:02 | |
Um, so he was very conflicted about that | 0:11:04 | 0:11:07 | |
and I definitely got a lot of the love that was meant | 0:11:07 | 0:11:12 | |
for the two brothers that died, and so I am aware | 0:11:12 | 0:11:16 | |
I was the, the golden boy, that saved Roy's life, | 0:11:16 | 0:11:20 | |
I was the energy that saved his life. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:23 | |
The Orbison household was divided into two houses, | 0:11:23 | 0:11:27 | |
so with Mamaw and Papaw and Wesley down the street. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:31 | |
Their house was just over the hill. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:33 | |
It's really close but you can't see it over the horizon, | 0:11:33 | 0:11:38 | |
but it's probably about a city block is as far away. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:43 | |
Orbie Lee, Dad's father, he basically, he and Nadine together, | 0:11:44 | 0:11:50 | |
they raised me and that's where I grew up, under their care. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:55 | |
From their point of view they felt that, | 0:11:56 | 0:11:59 | |
they felt to blame that they had let Roy's children die, | 0:11:59 | 0:12:02 | |
and they felt they let him down so much, and so my grandmother | 0:12:02 | 0:12:06 | |
in particular grabbed a hold of Wesley and never let go. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:11 | |
She became like the momma alligator protecting the eggs. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:15 | |
It didn't seem like that I was supposed to go with them. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:21 | |
It felt like I was supposed to stay where I was, you know? | 0:12:21 | 0:12:25 | |
It already felt like home. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:27 | |
From '68 to '75, that little period was very protected, | 0:12:35 | 0:12:39 | |
and when the family got a little bit bigger | 0:12:39 | 0:12:42 | |
and he had Alex, it started to be fun again. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:44 | |
The little boys are around, you know, things are really great | 0:12:46 | 0:12:51 | |
cos they're so vibrant and full of life. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:54 | |
So those guys, you know, | 0:12:57 | 0:12:58 | |
would often come together to visit with their grandparents, you know? | 0:12:58 | 0:13:03 | |
And myself. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:05 | |
And just a glorious time. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:08 | |
They seemed like they wanted to stay there | 0:13:08 | 0:13:11 | |
even when it was time to go home for dinner or something like that, | 0:13:11 | 0:13:15 | |
so it was a sad time for them to have to go back home. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:18 | |
-How are you, huh? -Fine. -Fine. How was your day? -Fine. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:24 | |
-You got a kiss for your daddy? -Yes. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:28 | |
Mwah, mwah. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:31 | |
I think this is probably a work of art by Alex. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:33 | |
Oh, it's my house. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:37 | |
There we go. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:42 | |
"This is my house, by Alex." | 0:13:42 | 0:13:45 | |
My dad had an incredible life. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:49 | |
He was born in 1936, and when you look at history, | 0:13:49 | 0:13:54 | |
1936 was the dead bottom of the depression. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:58 | |
The crash was '29, and then they had also over-farmed | 0:13:58 | 0:14:04 | |
and it made the Dust Bowl and my dad was born and lived | 0:14:04 | 0:14:07 | |
in West Texas, and so this would have been the driest, | 0:14:07 | 0:14:10 | |
dustiest, hardest hit area of the depression, | 0:14:10 | 0:14:13 | |
and the fact that my grandparents even had a son then, | 0:14:13 | 0:14:18 | |
in this blackness, and that this guy grew up to be | 0:14:18 | 0:14:21 | |
this legendary character, is stunning to me. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:25 | |
-I just dropped in. How are you doing there? -Fine. Doing fine. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:29 | |
This is Dad, this is Papaw. | 0:14:29 | 0:14:31 | |
Yeah, this is... the headman around here. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:35 | |
That's right! The number one. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:37 | |
Papaw was a guitar player and a great singer | 0:14:37 | 0:14:40 | |
and he was also Roy's road manager for many years until his retirement. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:44 | |
At a certain point Roy was making more per night then Papaw | 0:14:44 | 0:14:47 | |
made in a year and so Papaw quit his job in the oilfields | 0:14:47 | 0:14:51 | |
and working on cars and followed Roy around. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:54 | |
You know, my dad was super engaging in the things that he knew | 0:14:54 | 0:14:59 | |
and it was amazing that he seemed to be good at everything, | 0:14:59 | 0:15:03 | |
and for whatever random thing I was into he would, you know, | 0:15:03 | 0:15:07 | |
come either out of his bedroom or back from being on the road | 0:15:07 | 0:15:10 | |
or whatever and I would think I had developed some new tricks | 0:15:10 | 0:15:13 | |
and he was like, "Oh, let me see what you're doing there," | 0:15:13 | 0:15:16 | |
and then of course he already had it mastered. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:19 | |
He did so many things so well and he was so blessed. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:22 | |
I don't know how he crammed so much experience into a life so short, | 0:15:22 | 0:15:25 | |
52 years. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:27 | |
When did he have time to become such a good driver, | 0:15:27 | 0:15:29 | |
such a good painter, such a good pool player? | 0:15:29 | 0:15:31 | |
How did he know about art in Europe and the Louvre in France | 0:15:31 | 0:15:36 | |
and John Paul Sartre? | 0:15:36 | 0:15:38 | |
Being his son that only got limited kind of visitation, | 0:15:38 | 0:15:43 | |
he also had this intuition. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:47 | |
He could look at you and say, | 0:15:47 | 0:15:51 | |
"Hi, yeah, you know, I'm sorry I've been gone or whatever | 0:15:51 | 0:15:56 | |
"but always remember that I love you," you know, | 0:15:56 | 0:15:59 | |
"and you're on my mind all the time," | 0:15:59 | 0:16:02 | |
and it just kind of made everything better, just knowing | 0:16:02 | 0:16:07 | |
that he was carrying a little part of you with him, you know? | 0:16:07 | 0:16:11 | |
When you're in the middle of it, | 0:16:13 | 0:16:15 | |
the amazing thing is how ordinary hanging out at the house | 0:16:15 | 0:16:19 | |
seemed to me, because I never knew anything else | 0:16:19 | 0:16:23 | |
and so, you know, you'd look over and there's Dad, | 0:16:23 | 0:16:28 | |
passed out on a lounger chair, except Dad is Roy Orbison, | 0:16:28 | 0:16:34 | |
and he's this legendary character who you never imagine | 0:16:34 | 0:16:37 | |
just sun-tanning and sitting around and having a life. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:41 | |
We were the only people besides Elvis | 0:16:41 | 0:16:44 | |
and Johnny Cash that had a satellite dish. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:46 | |
We had motorcycles, go-karts, | 0:16:48 | 0:16:52 | |
whatever kind of fad came along in the '70s. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:55 | |
We had a kiddie pool and when we changed it to a permanent pool, | 0:16:57 | 0:16:59 | |
we were left with all these pipes and we would use those pipes | 0:16:59 | 0:17:03 | |
to shoot bottle rockets at the boats that passed by. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:06 | |
And Alex and I were out there shooting at the boats, | 0:17:06 | 0:17:11 | |
Dad came out and we thought he was going to be mad at us, and he snuck | 0:17:11 | 0:17:15 | |
down behind us and started shooting bottle rockets at the boats too. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:19 | |
He always had attached to him this kind of this | 0:17:19 | 0:17:22 | |
sad man of rock and roll, or the tragic man of rock and roll, | 0:17:22 | 0:17:26 | |
but if you ask anybody that was around Roy for more than 10 minutes, | 0:17:26 | 0:17:30 | |
they always remember the humour and that laugh. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:34 | |
# Immanuel Kant was a real pissant who was very rarely stable | 0:17:34 | 0:17:38 | |
# Heidegger, Heidegger was a boozy beggar | 0:17:38 | 0:17:40 | |
# Who could think you under the table | 0:17:40 | 0:17:43 | |
# David Hume could out-consume Schopenhauer and Hegel | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
# And Wittgenstein was a beery swine | 0:17:46 | 0:17:48 | |
# Who was just as sloshed as Schlegel. # | 0:17:48 | 0:17:51 | |
Seeing him do Monty Python skits with Roy | 0:17:51 | 0:17:54 | |
was like the funniest thing you've ever seen. | 0:17:54 | 0:17:57 | |
He really, you know... | 0:17:57 | 0:18:00 | |
..really nailed it down, you could see. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:02 | |
Ladies and gentlemen, it gives me great pleasure now, | 0:18:02 | 0:18:06 | |
and it has done for many years, to introduce a young man who's become | 0:18:06 | 0:18:10 | |
quite a personal friend of mine, and I do mean that, Roy Orbison! | 0:18:10 | 0:18:13 | |
# Just runnin' scared | 0:18:18 | 0:18:23 | |
# Each place we go | 0:18:23 | 0:18:27 | |
# So afraid | 0:18:29 | 0:18:32 | |
# That he might show... # | 0:18:33 | 0:18:36 | |
We couldn't go anywhere or do anything ever. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:40 | |
We had to have bodyguards and our dogs were, you know, | 0:18:40 | 0:18:45 | |
we went through 13 dogs - they would be stolen by the fans. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:49 | |
So you couldn't blink, | 0:18:49 | 0:18:50 | |
you couldn't walk into an airport without everything stopping. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:53 | |
Complete silence. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:55 | |
And... | 0:18:55 | 0:18:57 | |
We got to do certain things, we got to go to Disneyland. | 0:18:57 | 0:19:00 | |
They closed it down for Michael Jackson | 0:19:00 | 0:19:02 | |
and then they closed it down for Roy, we were the next ones. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:05 | |
Michael Jackson got a private kind of tour and they kept it open | 0:19:05 | 0:19:08 | |
-and they did that for us when I was little. -Ta-da! | 0:19:08 | 0:19:12 | |
It was fully operational for two hours and we got to run around | 0:19:12 | 0:19:15 | |
so you couldn't feel more special than that. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:17 | |
-He just walks at him. -Like menacing! -Menacing. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:22 | |
But I thought everyone was like that. That's... | 0:19:22 | 0:19:25 | |
If your dad was a plumber he was king of the plumbers, | 0:19:25 | 0:19:27 | |
and all of the other plumbers would come to see you. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:30 | |
I actually didn't understand the mathematics that there could | 0:19:30 | 0:19:33 | |
only be one Roy Orbison. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:35 | |
This is the old writing couch. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:37 | |
I'd like to get rid of it. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:39 | |
Two of them I've worn the thing down so it has a nice comfy spot in it, | 0:19:40 | 0:19:44 | |
from sitting for hours and hours... | 0:19:44 | 0:19:46 | |
..and doing no good. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:50 | |
I don't normally sit around and sing for anybody. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:57 | |
There's a reason for that - I'm basically an introvert. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:02 | |
And also, I never give a performance | 0:20:02 | 0:20:06 | |
except in the studio when we make a record. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:09 | |
In recent years I had... | 0:20:15 | 0:20:18 | |
..I'd accepted the fact that a man should be able to cry | 0:20:20 | 0:20:22 | |
when he wants to cry and... | 0:20:22 | 0:20:24 | |
..that didn't bother me professionally, | 0:20:25 | 0:20:28 | |
and evidently didn't bother me at all but that's why | 0:20:28 | 0:20:30 | |
if I seem a little nervous when I play in the writing room, | 0:20:30 | 0:20:34 | |
it's because I'm not alone, and these songs are such a part of me | 0:20:34 | 0:20:39 | |
that you're aware of everything and everything around you. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:44 | |
# I was all right for a while | 0:20:44 | 0:20:47 | |
# I could smile for a while | 0:20:47 | 0:20:49 | |
# I saw you last night | 0:20:49 | 0:20:51 | |
# You held my hand so tight as you stopped to say hello | 0:20:51 | 0:20:56 | |
# You wished me well | 0:20:56 | 0:20:58 | |
# You couldn't tell that I'd been crying... # | 0:20:58 | 0:21:02 | |
Like that, so... | 0:21:02 | 0:21:04 | |
Still nervous. But... | 0:21:04 | 0:21:06 | |
People always said "Roy, you wrote these sad songs, | 0:21:06 | 0:21:11 | |
"you must be this sad guy," | 0:21:11 | 0:21:13 | |
and it would seem like the tragedies would happen | 0:21:13 | 0:21:18 | |
and then you'd write Crying, or It's Over, | 0:21:18 | 0:21:22 | |
but truthfully my dad wrote those songs | 0:21:22 | 0:21:25 | |
when he was in a much better place and after the tragedies happened, | 0:21:25 | 0:21:30 | |
that put my dad at a disconnect with his songwriting craft. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:36 | |
So you have to back off just enough when you're performing... | 0:21:36 | 0:21:39 | |
..or you'll get too involved and you'll break down and | 0:21:40 | 0:21:44 | |
if you're crying you can't sing, you know? It doesn't work that way. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:46 | |
If you're crying you can't sing Crying. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:49 | |
If you're crying you can't sing Crying, so you just | 0:21:49 | 0:21:52 | |
back off just a little bit and then give it all you've got. | 0:21:52 | 0:21:55 | |
In the middle of the '70s it puts Roy | 0:21:55 | 0:21:58 | |
alone in the middle of a world that had changed so far from what | 0:21:58 | 0:22:02 | |
he knew and the hope of getting the new songs that he would write | 0:22:02 | 0:22:08 | |
in front of people and getting the reaction that he had always got, | 0:22:08 | 0:22:13 | |
it totally withered away. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:15 | |
All of that happening, you know, that puts you | 0:22:15 | 0:22:18 | |
around the time that I'm born, with him very happy that his present | 0:22:18 | 0:22:22 | |
family is flourishing, but outside that everything had fallen apart. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:27 | |
-Excuse me, Mr Orpington? -Yes? | 0:22:30 | 0:22:34 | |
Why do you wear your sunglasses when it's not sunny? | 0:22:34 | 0:22:37 | |
Same reason you wear your hat when it's not raining. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:41 | |
We'd like to do the new record for you, it goes like this. OK? | 0:22:45 | 0:22:48 | |
# Da da-da-da da-da | 0:22:50 | 0:22:54 | |
# Da-da-da da-da | 0:22:54 | 0:22:56 | |
# Da-da-da da-da | 0:22:56 | 0:22:59 | |
# Sweet Mama Blue... # | 0:22:59 | 0:23:04 | |
Well, I was spreading myself too thin. | 0:23:04 | 0:23:09 | |
I was making too many records and I was doing too much touring. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:13 | |
# That woman sings | 0:23:13 | 0:23:16 | |
# And plays piano like a dream... # | 0:23:16 | 0:23:22 | |
It's so funny cos people say, "Oh, well, Roy didn't do so well in the '70s." | 0:23:22 | 0:23:26 | |
You know, "He was off the map and his records weren't selling." | 0:23:26 | 0:23:30 | |
His new records didn't sell as well as his old records but | 0:23:31 | 0:23:35 | |
the guy literally had sold millions of his Greatest Hits records | 0:23:35 | 0:23:39 | |
and was one of the highest-paid entertainers. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:43 | |
Discover all the spine-tingling, immortal songs of | 0:23:43 | 0:23:45 | |
the most dynamic voice in the history of popular music. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:48 | |
# Blue angel... # | 0:23:48 | 0:23:52 | |
He really didn't have to prove himself for anything | 0:23:52 | 0:23:55 | |
because, you know, as a young man he had done exactly | 0:23:55 | 0:23:58 | |
what he wanted to do, so we just had a great time. | 0:23:58 | 0:24:01 | |
My dad was this car guy. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:04 | |
I mean, every kind of car you could imagine, you know, | 0:24:04 | 0:24:07 | |
four T-birds, Corvettes, | 0:24:07 | 0:24:09 | |
Cadillacs, Excaliburs, | 0:24:09 | 0:24:12 | |
there's a car we still can't figure out the name of it and | 0:24:12 | 0:24:15 | |
literally you look in our driveway and there's a fire truck from 1925. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:21 | |
If I'm going to be of any value to my family | 0:24:22 | 0:24:24 | |
I have to be sort of selfish and write my songs and go tour, | 0:24:24 | 0:24:29 | |
and earn a living, | 0:24:29 | 0:24:33 | |
else they're not provided for. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:36 | |
There's nothing you can do on tour except travel. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:40 | |
Land, sea or air, one way or the other, and that's always a bind. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:44 | |
If you're in a bus or an aeroplane | 0:24:44 | 0:24:48 | |
and you play cards or something like that. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:50 | |
You know, I listened to Dad's records a lot - | 0:24:55 | 0:25:01 | |
that's how I visited with him, | 0:25:01 | 0:25:04 | |
and I always really loved his voice and those recordings. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:09 | |
We had a really terrific... receiver that we had salvaged | 0:25:09 | 0:25:16 | |
from the house fire, and had a terrific sound to it, | 0:25:16 | 0:25:22 | |
and so I would have favourites that I would play like really a lot, | 0:25:22 | 0:25:28 | |
maybe obsessively, listening to the nuances of his voice | 0:25:28 | 0:25:33 | |
and singing along a little bit, you know. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:36 | |
# Yeah, running scared | 0:25:36 | 0:25:39 | |
# Afraid to lose | 0:25:41 | 0:25:44 | |
# If he came back | 0:25:46 | 0:25:50 | |
# Which one would you choose? | 0:25:51 | 0:25:56 | |
# Then all at once he was standing there | 0:25:56 | 0:26:01 | |
# So sure of himself, his head in the air | 0:26:04 | 0:26:09 | |
# Well, my heart was breaking | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
# Which one would it be? | 0:26:15 | 0:26:18 | |
# You turn around | 0:26:18 | 0:26:20 | |
# And walk away with me. # | 0:26:20 | 0:26:26 | |
Well, in my case, when you see me perform, | 0:26:28 | 0:26:31 | |
what happens is that I sing and the audience watches me do that. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:35 | |
I remember when I first played a nightclub in England, | 0:26:37 | 0:26:41 | |
I had just done concerts, and I was asked to do this | 0:26:41 | 0:26:45 | |
very famous nightclub | 0:26:45 | 0:26:47 | |
and everyone said, "What are you going to do?" You know? | 0:26:47 | 0:26:50 | |
I said, "I'm going to sing." | 0:26:50 | 0:26:52 | |
So that's about all I really do, is sing a few songs. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:57 | |
My dad hung out in that place where your voice breaks. | 0:26:57 | 0:27:01 | |
If you listen to Only The Lonely and Crying, | 0:27:01 | 0:27:06 | |
those lines, the place where every man wants to stay away from, | 0:27:06 | 0:27:11 | |
it's where your voice goes...ah! | 0:27:11 | 0:27:13 | |
It's where your voice cracks. | 0:27:13 | 0:27:15 | |
# You got to take | 0:27:15 | 0:27:20 | |
# If your lonely heart breaks... # | 0:27:20 | 0:27:24 | |
That is where Roy Orbison lived, that was his stronghold. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:27 | |
There, like the most sensitive bare place, | 0:27:27 | 0:27:31 | |
that's where he displayed his power, and he hung out in places | 0:27:31 | 0:27:35 | |
that were like embarrassing for people vocally. | 0:27:35 | 0:27:40 | |
I started singing this way because I was writing songs... | 0:27:40 | 0:27:43 | |
..and I, I wrote the melody that I heard in my head and I... | 0:27:44 | 0:27:49 | |
So then I had to sing those notes as well and I didn't know how high | 0:27:49 | 0:27:53 | |
or low you were supposed to go so I went where I wanted to. | 0:27:53 | 0:27:56 | |
There was a show in Memphis that Dad went to probably in the '70s | 0:27:56 | 0:28:01 | |
and Elvis called him out in the audience and, you know, | 0:28:01 | 0:28:05 | |
said that his good friend was here | 0:28:05 | 0:28:09 | |
and the greatest singer in the world, | 0:28:09 | 0:28:12 | |
and he introduced Roy Orbison. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:14 | |
The first show I ever did in Memphis, my record was number one, | 0:28:14 | 0:28:18 | |
and Elvis came along and was introduced at intermission. | 0:28:18 | 0:28:22 | |
Of course he stole the show but we had a talk, a chat afterwards, | 0:28:22 | 0:28:27 | |
and from then until his death we were very, very close. | 0:28:27 | 0:28:31 | |
When Elvis died, some of the fans stole his body. | 0:28:31 | 0:28:35 | |
And Roy started to get his gun and then started thinking, | 0:28:35 | 0:28:41 | |
and I could see that he was thinking something | 0:28:41 | 0:28:43 | |
and what he was thinking is that there was only two directions | 0:28:43 | 0:28:46 | |
these guys could have gone in that car, and he knew that | 0:28:46 | 0:28:48 | |
if they went east they would be driving through Nashville, | 0:28:48 | 0:28:51 | |
and he was going to get his car and go wait on the highway | 0:28:51 | 0:28:54 | |
because they had shown what the station wagon probably looked like. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:58 | |
He thought he could go out there and get Elvis... | 0:28:58 | 0:29:02 | |
..from these people. And he was going to do it. | 0:29:02 | 0:29:05 | |
I try to remain innocent and very, very young as long as I can, | 0:29:05 | 0:29:09 | |
but those reminders, like with Elvis, | 0:29:09 | 0:29:13 | |
and John, I have known all these people | 0:29:13 | 0:29:16 | |
and we were very close so that hurts a great deal. | 0:29:16 | 0:29:21 | |
And...and is a reminder, even when you want to try and stay young. | 0:29:21 | 0:29:25 | |
So here we go, '78, my father has a massive heart attack, | 0:29:25 | 0:29:31 | |
triple bypass surgery. You know, are we going to lose him? | 0:29:31 | 0:29:36 | |
And just really unexpected, you know, he's 42 - gosh. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:41 | |
And...now it's... | 0:29:44 | 0:29:49 | |
..more fragile than before. | 0:29:52 | 0:29:55 | |
I always thought, you know, maybe when he retires, you know, | 0:29:55 | 0:29:59 | |
maybe in those retirement years we would get to be closer and he | 0:29:59 | 0:30:04 | |
would have more time and I could be more, more handy for him, you know? | 0:30:04 | 0:30:11 | |
Instead of a little needy kid I could, you know, be an adult | 0:30:11 | 0:30:15 | |
and we could do adult things, but now some of this was in jeopardy. | 0:30:15 | 0:30:19 | |
I think the little one's coming pretty soon. | 0:30:21 | 0:30:24 | |
-Yeah. -So you'd rather not be smoking on camera then? | 0:30:27 | 0:30:30 | |
Uh... | 0:30:30 | 0:30:32 | |
No, if we get something that you really love though and I've got | 0:30:33 | 0:30:36 | |
a cigarette in my mouth all the time, you know, | 0:30:36 | 0:30:39 | |
that's not going to fit in well when I explain to people | 0:30:39 | 0:30:43 | |
that I've had open heart surgery, you know? | 0:30:43 | 0:30:46 | |
They are going to say, "Well, you've got a death wish | 0:30:46 | 0:30:48 | |
"or something." You know? And then they get the wrong impression. | 0:30:48 | 0:30:51 | |
My dad had his first heart attack in '77, '78. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:55 | |
That puts my mom where... beside having kids, | 0:30:55 | 0:31:00 | |
she'd never done anything with her life. | 0:31:00 | 0:31:03 | |
And with the vulnerability of the heart attack and being at home for | 0:31:04 | 0:31:08 | |
longer periods of time, you know, | 0:31:08 | 0:31:11 | |
my mom had started to cope more with that with drinking, | 0:31:11 | 0:31:16 | |
and so she had started drinking a little bit more | 0:31:16 | 0:31:20 | |
and I think it played into her insecurities and she became | 0:31:20 | 0:31:25 | |
agoraphobic, where leaving the house at all seemed terrifying to her. | 0:31:25 | 0:31:31 | |
For me what was normal no longer was normal. You know, it changed. | 0:31:32 | 0:31:38 | |
There was a seismic shift in the home life in our house | 0:31:38 | 0:31:42 | |
and so that can all be terrifying... | 0:31:42 | 0:31:46 | |
..for a young child. | 0:31:48 | 0:31:50 | |
# Hey, hound dog man | 0:31:50 | 0:31:54 | |
# Where you been now, where you been? | 0:31:54 | 0:31:59 | |
# I wish that you were back | 0:32:00 | 0:32:03 | |
# It was too good to ever end | 0:32:03 | 0:32:08 | |
# Once in a while someone like you... # | 0:32:08 | 0:32:12 | |
When Austin City Limits was filmed that guy was my best friend... | 0:32:12 | 0:32:17 | |
# Hey, hound dog man... # | 0:32:17 | 0:32:21 | |
..the way his voice had a sort of vulnerability and the vibrato | 0:32:21 | 0:32:26 | |
was different than in early, it wasn't quite as confident | 0:32:26 | 0:32:29 | |
as early years, and wasn't quite as mature as it was in the later years. | 0:32:29 | 0:32:33 | |
It's very vulnerable. | 0:32:33 | 0:32:35 | |
# You gave the world a whole lot of joy... # | 0:32:35 | 0:32:40 | |
On the Austin City Limits concert there was one song that | 0:32:40 | 0:32:43 | |
he didn't record anywhere else, it wasn't taped, | 0:32:43 | 0:32:46 | |
and so that we have film of Hound Dog Man. | 0:32:46 | 0:32:49 | |
# The way you sang rock and roll and blues... # | 0:32:49 | 0:32:54 | |
Hound Dog Man is the best Elvis tribute song there is. | 0:32:54 | 0:32:57 | |
It's just so beautiful and it's there on that video. | 0:32:57 | 0:33:00 | |
# And the memory that it brings | 0:33:00 | 0:33:04 | |
# Hey, hound dog man | 0:33:04 | 0:33:08 | |
# My old friend, play it again. # | 0:33:08 | 0:33:12 | |
Time is very important. | 0:33:13 | 0:33:16 | |
A lot of brilliant people through the ages have written that | 0:33:16 | 0:33:19 | |
time is the most important thing, but if you take that literally | 0:33:19 | 0:33:25 | |
you get very paranoid and say, you know, | 0:33:25 | 0:33:28 | |
"I might not be around tomorrow, I'd better hurry up today | 0:33:28 | 0:33:31 | |
"and do everything I'm going to do today." | 0:33:31 | 0:33:34 | |
When it became time for my dad to want to reclaim his throne | 0:33:34 | 0:33:37 | |
because there was a time when the record industry had changed | 0:33:37 | 0:33:41 | |
and we had had record deals and publishing deals go sour | 0:33:41 | 0:33:45 | |
and my dad consciously just said, "I'm not playing that game | 0:33:45 | 0:33:49 | |
"because I tour, I'm Roy Orbison | 0:33:49 | 0:33:51 | |
"I make enough money to have a happy life | 0:33:51 | 0:33:53 | |
"and I don't like disco music anyway." | 0:33:53 | 0:33:56 | |
And a lot of things happened around 1984, and my dad started | 0:33:56 | 0:34:01 | |
to want to make a run for the top again, and this very much involved | 0:34:01 | 0:34:07 | |
my mom becoming his manager and them seeing this thing through together. | 0:34:07 | 0:34:13 | |
Roy was signed to Virgin Records | 0:34:13 | 0:34:16 | |
and all of a sudden by meeting with me, they just said, "Listen, | 0:34:16 | 0:34:20 | |
"you need to help us, you need to manage Roy," | 0:34:20 | 0:34:22 | |
so that's the way it came about, because I had a vision | 0:34:22 | 0:34:25 | |
and they have the same vision and it was just magic, you know? | 0:34:25 | 0:34:28 | |
In a way my dad was a man with a plan | 0:34:33 | 0:34:37 | |
before my mom quit drinking, | 0:34:37 | 0:34:39 | |
and then having Barbara totally on board | 0:34:39 | 0:34:43 | |
and moving into a management role officially... | 0:34:43 | 0:34:46 | |
..Barbara finds her voice as a human being | 0:34:48 | 0:34:52 | |
and together they push through and the plan is working. | 0:34:52 | 0:34:56 | |
When you're young and you walk into a life that is so big, yeah, | 0:34:57 | 0:35:03 | |
you lose yourself, but then when it was time for me | 0:35:03 | 0:35:06 | |
to sort of understand who I was | 0:35:06 | 0:35:09 | |
and what I wanted to do with my life, luckily it happened | 0:35:09 | 0:35:15 | |
that Roy could really hear me to give me that place. | 0:35:15 | 0:35:19 | |
Moving to California was another bold move, you know. | 0:35:19 | 0:35:24 | |
Roy sold the house that we had lived in for 30 years. | 0:35:24 | 0:35:27 | |
I still look back and I go like, | 0:35:27 | 0:35:28 | |
"I don't know why we sold the house," but this was a real break. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:33 | |
The strange thing about California | 0:35:33 | 0:35:35 | |
was that my parents went to California for a writing session. | 0:35:35 | 0:35:38 | |
I'm ten years old | 0:35:38 | 0:35:40 | |
and they went in the last couple of weeks of summer | 0:35:40 | 0:35:44 | |
and they never came back and so I started school in the fifth grade | 0:35:44 | 0:35:48 | |
with no parents at home. | 0:35:48 | 0:35:51 | |
I would get myself ready and go down and have the driver drive to school. | 0:35:51 | 0:35:55 | |
Then there was a phone call. | 0:35:57 | 0:35:59 | |
My mom and dad said, "Well, we're in Malibu and we love it here. | 0:35:59 | 0:36:03 | |
"What would you say if we said do you want to move to Malibu?" | 0:36:03 | 0:36:08 | |
And I literally just screamed out loud | 0:36:08 | 0:36:12 | |
and I couldn't believe what was happening. | 0:36:12 | 0:36:15 | |
It sounded like a dream. | 0:36:15 | 0:36:18 | |
So, now we have the family moving to Malibu. | 0:36:18 | 0:36:23 | |
Mamaw was already bedridden by this point. | 0:36:25 | 0:36:31 | |
She had crushed one of her hips | 0:36:31 | 0:36:34 | |
and had to have reconstructive surgery | 0:36:34 | 0:36:37 | |
and so we couldn't make the move. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:41 | |
He started hanging out with U2 and David Lynch | 0:36:43 | 0:36:47 | |
and T Bone Burnett and Jeff Lynne | 0:36:47 | 0:36:50 | |
and from those projects, we had the Wilburys, | 0:36:50 | 0:36:53 | |
we had the Mystery Girl album | 0:36:53 | 0:36:55 | |
and we had the Black and White Night with Bruce Springsteen. | 0:36:55 | 0:36:58 | |
And then you go... | 0:36:58 | 0:36:59 | |
# Sweet... # | 0:36:59 | 0:37:00 | |
-You might want to go... -Yeah, I may have to. | 0:37:00 | 0:37:03 | |
-# Sweet dreams, baby -Baby... # | 0:37:03 | 0:37:06 | |
-After four of those. -After four of those. | 0:37:06 | 0:37:08 | |
-So, we do the first breakdown. -Yeah. | 0:37:08 | 0:37:10 | |
-VOICEOVER: -I'm a bit overwhelmed. | 0:37:10 | 0:37:12 | |
-VOICEOVER: -I'm very grateful | 0:37:12 | 0:37:14 | |
that all these wonderful people came by to help me out. | 0:37:14 | 0:37:19 | |
Hup! | 0:37:19 | 0:37:21 | |
# Sweet dreams, baby | 0:37:21 | 0:37:26 | |
# Sweet dreams, baby | 0:37:27 | 0:37:31 | |
# Sweet dreams, baby | 0:37:33 | 0:37:38 | |
# Sweet dreams, baby | 0:37:39 | 0:37:44 | |
# Oh, how long must I dream? # | 0:37:44 | 0:37:51 | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:37:56 | 0:38:00 | |
The amazing thing is that this isn't a granted | 0:38:00 | 0:38:02 | |
that Roy Orbison's actually going to have a comeback | 0:38:02 | 0:38:05 | |
and the fact that everything started to click | 0:38:05 | 0:38:08 | |
and you had these crazy things, like the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame... | 0:38:08 | 0:38:11 | |
In '75, we went into the studio to make Born To Run. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:15 | |
I wanted to make a record with words like Bob Dylan | 0:38:15 | 0:38:17 | |
that sounded like Phil Spector, but most of all, | 0:38:17 | 0:38:19 | |
I wanted to sing like Roy Orbison. | 0:38:19 | 0:38:22 | |
Now, everybody knows that nobody sings like Roy Orbison. | 0:38:22 | 0:38:26 | |
So, all I want to say is congratulations, | 0:38:26 | 0:38:29 | |
thanks for the inspiration and, ohhhh, mercy! | 0:38:29 | 0:38:33 | |
David Lynch used In Dreams in a movie. | 0:38:37 | 0:38:41 | |
# In dreams, I walk with you... # | 0:38:41 | 0:38:47 | |
There was nothing cooler in pop history for teenagers | 0:38:49 | 0:38:53 | |
and adults alike than David Lynch to feature In Dreams in a movie. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:59 | |
I mean, it was so shocking and crazy and different | 0:38:59 | 0:39:01 | |
and it changed the pop culture where all of a sudden, everyone, | 0:39:01 | 0:39:06 | |
and literally everyone, wanted a piece of my dad, you know, | 0:39:06 | 0:39:09 | |
just like young teenage girls trying to mob him | 0:39:09 | 0:39:12 | |
to get his signature and so Roy's on top of the world again. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:17 | |
# California blue | 0:39:17 | 0:39:21 | |
# California blue... # | 0:39:21 | 0:39:23 | |
Roy was working with Jeff Lynne in the studio | 0:39:23 | 0:39:26 | |
and Tom Petty and George came to America to cut a song for his album | 0:39:26 | 0:39:32 | |
and they phoned Bob and there they were. | 0:39:32 | 0:39:35 | |
# Been beat up and battered around... # | 0:39:38 | 0:39:42 | |
In May of that year, he had called for my birthday | 0:39:43 | 0:39:47 | |
and they were in the studio and he said, "I've got somebody that I want | 0:39:47 | 0:39:51 | |
"to have wish you happy birthday," | 0:39:51 | 0:39:53 | |
and on the phone, | 0:39:53 | 0:39:56 | |
-ENGLISH ACCENT: -"Hello, Wes, happy birthday." | 0:39:56 | 0:39:59 | |
The next guy sounds like he's imitating the first guy. | 0:39:59 | 0:40:02 | |
"Hello, Wes, happy birthday!" And he starts cracking up. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:06 | |
By the time the third guy's on the phone, they're laughing so hard | 0:40:06 | 0:40:09 | |
that they can't even talk any more. | 0:40:09 | 0:40:12 | |
# Happy birthday to you! # | 0:40:12 | 0:40:15 | |
And so Dad gets on the phone just giggling. | 0:40:15 | 0:40:18 | |
"Oh, man, that was Tom Petty, Jeff Lynne, George Harrison." | 0:40:18 | 0:40:23 | |
I'm like, "Oh, my goodness!" | 0:40:23 | 0:40:25 | |
These are some of my terrific heroes, you know. | 0:40:25 | 0:40:27 | |
These are rock and rollers, you know. | 0:40:27 | 0:40:30 | |
This is a band, are you kidding? | 0:40:30 | 0:40:32 | |
That's, like, the coolest thing I've ever heard. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:34 | |
The Wilburys weren't the saving grace, | 0:40:34 | 0:40:37 | |
you know, my dad was at zero and pulled him out. | 0:40:37 | 0:40:40 | |
Everything in my dad's life was already working | 0:40:40 | 0:40:44 | |
and as a result of that, the Wilburys happened | 0:40:44 | 0:40:48 | |
and my dad's at top form. | 0:40:48 | 0:40:51 | |
# Won't you show me that you really care? | 0:40:51 | 0:40:56 | |
# Everybody's got somebody | 0:40:59 | 0:41:02 | |
# To lean on | 0:41:02 | 0:41:07 | |
# Put your body next to mine | 0:41:07 | 0:41:10 | |
# And dream on... # | 0:41:10 | 0:41:14 | |
He was able to orchestrate this high note | 0:41:16 | 0:41:24 | |
that we get from some of his songs, you know. | 0:41:24 | 0:41:28 | |
It's like the sad songs happened before the tragedies | 0:41:28 | 0:41:35 | |
and then the renaissance happened | 0:41:35 | 0:41:37 | |
before the end of the song, you know. | 0:41:37 | 0:41:39 | |
So, Roy Orbison is alive and kicking, as they say in English. | 0:41:39 | 0:41:42 | |
Alive and well and I guess I've never been busier | 0:41:42 | 0:41:45 | |
or more successful. It's amazing. | 0:41:45 | 0:41:47 | |
-Are you happy? -Very, very happy, yeah. | 0:41:47 | 0:41:50 | |
Roy and I had been in Europe for just a pleasure trip | 0:41:50 | 0:41:53 | |
and we said goodbye in England | 0:41:53 | 0:41:55 | |
and he was going to fly to tour one more night in Boston | 0:41:55 | 0:42:00 | |
and Akron, I guess two more nights, | 0:42:00 | 0:42:01 | |
and go home to Nashville to wish his mum | 0:42:01 | 0:42:04 | |
and our other kid Wesley merry Christmas | 0:42:04 | 0:42:08 | |
and then we were going to join and spend Christmas somewhere else. | 0:42:08 | 0:42:11 | |
When he comes to the house for the visit, | 0:42:11 | 0:42:14 | |
he's really excited about the new project | 0:42:14 | 0:42:20 | |
and, "I've got a little time to hang out with you, man, | 0:42:20 | 0:42:23 | |
"just me and you, and I've got the new record." | 0:42:23 | 0:42:28 | |
And things are really going great, you know. | 0:42:28 | 0:42:32 | |
For about an hour. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:33 | |
Then he's unresponsive in the bathroom. | 0:42:34 | 0:42:39 | |
Didn't want to check on him. | 0:42:41 | 0:42:43 | |
But I had this sense, something didn't feel right. | 0:42:43 | 0:42:50 | |
I mean, it really didn't feel right. What could be wrong, you know? | 0:42:50 | 0:42:56 | |
"Hey, Dad," you know? No answer. | 0:42:58 | 0:43:01 | |
I was like, "OK. Hey, Dad?" | 0:43:02 | 0:43:09 | |
No answer so I had to run and get a phone | 0:43:09 | 0:43:14 | |
and I was too freaked out. | 0:43:14 | 0:43:18 | |
They phoned in the middle of the night and they woke me up | 0:43:18 | 0:43:20 | |
in the middle of the night and then my mom just told me | 0:43:20 | 0:43:26 | |
pretty quickly in one sentence... | 0:43:26 | 0:43:29 | |
There was no beating around the bush, just like everybody... | 0:43:29 | 0:43:32 | |
It's always so abrupt, there's no real way to say it so she said, | 0:43:32 | 0:43:37 | |
"Roy Kelton..." | 0:43:37 | 0:43:39 | |
I don't even know how she said it. | 0:43:41 | 0:43:44 | |
She said, "Roy Kelton, your dad died last night." | 0:43:44 | 0:43:47 | |
# I was all right for a while | 0:43:49 | 0:43:54 | |
# I could smile for a while | 0:43:54 | 0:43:58 | |
# But I saw you last night | 0:43:58 | 0:44:01 | |
# You held my hand so tight | 0:44:01 | 0:44:04 | |
# As you stopped to say hello | 0:44:04 | 0:44:09 | |
# Oh, you wished me well | 0:44:09 | 0:44:12 | |
# You couldn't tell... # | 0:44:12 | 0:44:14 | |
You can't describe what it's like to lose someone that special | 0:44:14 | 0:44:19 | |
and so quickly and so, you know, | 0:44:19 | 0:44:24 | |
it was earth-shattering for me as a son. | 0:44:24 | 0:44:29 | |
Something kind of beautiful happened that night | 0:44:29 | 0:44:31 | |
because my mom was far away and the press was attacking so much, | 0:44:31 | 0:44:36 | |
the record company, Virgin, and all the record companies, they... | 0:44:36 | 0:44:42 | |
They hired limousines to form a wall down the street | 0:44:43 | 0:44:47 | |
so the press couldn't get there | 0:44:47 | 0:44:48 | |
so they blocked off the whole street with 30 or 40 long limousines | 0:44:48 | 0:44:53 | |
so we had a wall of limousines protecting us from the press | 0:44:53 | 0:44:56 | |
and then my mom got the next flight out | 0:44:56 | 0:45:00 | |
and she flew and came to be with us. | 0:45:00 | 0:45:03 | |
Getting to hear the record was a little less than happy news. | 0:45:03 | 0:45:09 | |
It was kind of, you know, this heavy, heavy bit of music | 0:45:09 | 0:45:16 | |
that was new, but it was also kind of a... | 0:45:16 | 0:45:22 | |
..an end, as well. | 0:45:25 | 0:45:28 | |
This was all of the new music he was going to do. | 0:45:28 | 0:45:32 | |
This was kind of maybe a gift, if you will. | 0:45:32 | 0:45:38 | |
So, I didn't get to listen to it with him. | 0:45:44 | 0:45:47 | |
It took a couple of days for the dust to settle, | 0:45:49 | 0:45:54 | |
then I put it on and, of course, the first track is You Got It. | 0:45:54 | 0:46:02 | |
And, man, oh, man... Gosh, it was... | 0:46:02 | 0:46:07 | |
You know, just so wonderful to hear how good... | 0:46:10 | 0:46:18 | |
# Anything you want | 0:46:20 | 0:46:23 | |
# You got it | 0:46:23 | 0:46:25 | |
# Anything you need | 0:46:25 | 0:46:28 | |
# You got it | 0:46:28 | 0:46:29 | |
# Anything at all | 0:46:29 | 0:46:31 | |
# You got it, baby | 0:46:31 | 0:46:36 | |
-# Anything at all -You got it | 0:46:39 | 0:46:43 | |
# Baby... # | 0:46:43 | 0:46:44 | |
When I see the home videos, | 0:46:44 | 0:46:46 | |
the one thing it really drives home is we were so loved. | 0:46:46 | 0:46:49 | |
There's a little footage of my dad following me over to the beach | 0:46:49 | 0:46:57 | |
and he's videotaping and he's trying to get a candid shot of me, | 0:46:57 | 0:47:04 | |
I want to jump up and down and do all this stuff. | 0:47:04 | 0:47:07 | |
There's one chance that he gets when I'm looking at the waves | 0:47:07 | 0:47:12 | |
and he's filming me and, er... | 0:47:12 | 0:47:15 | |
ROY LAUGHS | 0:47:15 | 0:47:17 | |
It's... It's all there in one moment. It's really, er... | 0:47:20 | 0:47:25 | |
Cos I felt loved and I do feel loved, | 0:47:27 | 0:47:30 | |
but it's been a long time and you forget a little bit. | 0:47:30 | 0:47:35 | |
For 20 years, we were together and at the time when he passed away, | 0:47:35 | 0:47:39 | |
we had found a way of living where we concluded each day | 0:47:39 | 0:47:42 | |
with one another so there was not that...lots of regrets. | 0:47:42 | 0:47:47 | |
There weren't any and I always said that I told Roy everything | 0:47:47 | 0:47:52 | |
that I needed to tell him during those 20 years, you know, | 0:47:52 | 0:47:54 | |
whether I loved him or what I didn't like about him | 0:47:54 | 0:47:57 | |
and we laughed lots so there was a feeling of completeness | 0:47:57 | 0:48:02 | |
when he passed away, | 0:48:02 | 0:48:04 | |
-which kind of helps with the grief, you know. -Absolutely. | 0:48:04 | 0:48:07 | |
And I have incredible boys and I feel more sad for them | 0:48:07 | 0:48:12 | |
because I don't think they got to conclude | 0:48:12 | 0:48:17 | |
because they were 13 and 18 and 22. | 0:48:17 | 0:48:20 | |
After my dad had died, we looked at photos | 0:48:20 | 0:48:24 | |
and laid them all over the floor | 0:48:24 | 0:48:27 | |
and so they had all these wedding pictures | 0:48:27 | 0:48:30 | |
and it was probably the first time in my life I had ever thought | 0:48:30 | 0:48:33 | |
about someone other than myself and I just thought, "Holy shit!" | 0:48:33 | 0:48:37 | |
You know, "Holy crap, what my mom is going through at this time!" | 0:48:37 | 0:48:43 | |
And then these things keep happening - | 0:48:43 | 0:48:47 | |
the Grammy for Pretty Woman... | 0:48:47 | 0:48:50 | |
-Roy Orbison. -CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:48:50 | 0:48:53 | |
I know it was one of the great honours of Barbara's life | 0:49:00 | 0:49:02 | |
to accept the Grammy Award on Roy's behalf in 1991. | 0:49:02 | 0:49:06 | |
I was there, too. | 0:49:06 | 0:49:08 | |
I got up on stage and stood just a little to the right | 0:49:08 | 0:49:11 | |
and every achievement was another milestone. | 0:49:11 | 0:49:15 | |
It was kind of like that part was a game, that was the game. | 0:49:15 | 0:49:19 | |
And Mom had accepted Dad into this Songwriters Hall of Fame. | 0:49:19 | 0:49:24 | |
This is truly an honour to be here tonight | 0:49:24 | 0:49:26 | |
and accept this award on behalf of Roy the songwriter. | 0:49:26 | 0:49:30 | |
Her first thought was probably that there was a song... | 0:49:32 | 0:49:35 | |
There was an outtake of Careless Heart | 0:49:35 | 0:49:37 | |
and she started looking for this outtake of Careless Heart | 0:49:37 | 0:49:40 | |
and she realised that there were enough outtakes | 0:49:40 | 0:49:43 | |
that she could make a great album. | 0:49:43 | 0:49:45 | |
I didn't even know if I wanted to finish this album | 0:49:45 | 0:49:48 | |
and I arrived at the studio | 0:49:48 | 0:49:50 | |
and everybody had gone and just Don and the engineer were at the studio | 0:49:50 | 0:49:56 | |
and I looked around and it was very quiet and at that moment, | 0:49:56 | 0:50:00 | |
Don turned on the controls | 0:50:00 | 0:50:04 | |
and I heard the words that Roy was singing - | 0:50:04 | 0:50:08 | |
"reach out and let it touch your soul". | 0:50:08 | 0:50:11 | |
# And give in to love... # | 0:50:13 | 0:50:16 | |
And I don't know what happened to me. | 0:50:16 | 0:50:18 | |
I knew that the album would be all right without Roy actually | 0:50:18 | 0:50:22 | |
checking every little detail. | 0:50:22 | 0:50:26 | |
For us as a family, my mom was going to live forever. | 0:50:26 | 0:50:31 | |
She was just a tank and she was so, you know... | 0:50:31 | 0:50:38 | |
When she pursued something, she pursued it so wholeheartedly | 0:50:38 | 0:50:43 | |
and she would just get the answer that she wanted a lot of times | 0:50:43 | 0:50:47 | |
and so you see Roy Orbison in these amazing places and, yeah, | 0:50:47 | 0:50:51 | |
he's the most incredible singer ever known to man, | 0:50:51 | 0:50:55 | |
but a lot of those situations were just | 0:50:55 | 0:50:57 | |
because Barbara wouldn't take no for an answer and so, you know, | 0:50:57 | 0:51:05 | |
people don't know because my mom didn't tell anyone | 0:51:05 | 0:51:09 | |
that she was sick, but she died super-unexpectedly, | 0:51:09 | 0:51:12 | |
like the same thing happens again, you know? | 0:51:12 | 0:51:16 | |
We think that we're getting her out of the hospital and we're not. | 0:51:16 | 0:51:21 | |
# Golden days before they end | 0:51:23 | 0:51:27 | |
# Whisper secrets to the wind | 0:51:29 | 0:51:33 | |
# Your baby won't be near you any more... # | 0:51:35 | 0:51:43 | |
The first time that Wesley and Roy and I had actually seen each other, | 0:51:43 | 0:51:49 | |
we were just so happy to be alive and to love each other as brothers | 0:51:49 | 0:51:53 | |
and so the obvious thing would be to carry the torch | 0:51:53 | 0:51:59 | |
and to do what our family has done | 0:51:59 | 0:52:04 | |
since 1944. | 0:52:04 | 0:52:09 | |
She had, you know, five or six big things | 0:52:09 | 0:52:11 | |
that we had worked on for 20 years, | 0:52:11 | 0:52:12 | |
things that my dad had worked on and not quite completed | 0:52:12 | 0:52:16 | |
so she felt this obligation to him | 0:52:16 | 0:52:19 | |
to make sure that this man's great works were completed | 0:52:19 | 0:52:22 | |
and now we have the same obligation to her. | 0:52:22 | 0:52:26 | |
There was a really dark time after Barbara had died | 0:52:26 | 0:52:29 | |
where literally everyone was wondering, | 0:52:29 | 0:52:32 | |
"Are these guys going to pull this off?" | 0:52:32 | 0:52:36 | |
And, I mean, everything. You could see there was just like a... | 0:52:36 | 0:52:40 | |
And slowly but surely, I think that we've been doing well. | 0:52:40 | 0:52:46 | |
-Listen, guys, shall we play that take back? -Yeah, yeah. | 0:52:46 | 0:52:48 | |
It sounded great, I thought. | 0:52:48 | 0:52:51 | |
Things are really going good for us | 0:52:51 | 0:52:53 | |
and it's wonderful to be working with my brothers, | 0:52:53 | 0:52:57 | |
telling the story and expanding the legacy, having children | 0:52:57 | 0:53:04 | |
and being a family together. | 0:53:04 | 0:53:08 | |
The latest project with the Royal Philharmonic | 0:53:08 | 0:53:12 | |
is another one I'm really, really proud of. | 0:53:12 | 0:53:16 | |
We got to play with the orchestra and be with my brothers. | 0:53:16 | 0:53:20 | |
It's really terrific. | 0:53:20 | 0:53:21 | |
# Pretty woman, talk a while | 0:53:23 | 0:53:27 | |
# Pretty woman, give your smile to me | 0:53:27 | 0:53:32 | |
# Pretty woman, yeah, yeah, yeah | 0:53:34 | 0:53:37 | |
# Pretty woman, look my way... # | 0:53:37 | 0:53:42 | |
With the Royal Philharmonic project, the sessions were so amazing. | 0:53:42 | 0:53:48 | |
I mean, we're talking Number 2 Room at Abbey Road. | 0:53:48 | 0:53:52 | |
That's The Beatles' room and then in Nashville, | 0:53:52 | 0:53:55 | |
Wesley, Roy and I got together | 0:53:55 | 0:53:58 | |
at the studio that my dad owned when I was born. | 0:53:58 | 0:54:03 | |
This is the place that my dad would have spent the most other time | 0:54:03 | 0:54:07 | |
besides at home playing with us kids | 0:54:07 | 0:54:10 | |
and so here we are, 40 years later, all together. | 0:54:10 | 0:54:15 | |
In the middle of all of this, | 0:54:15 | 0:54:17 | |
baby Roy had a suit that looked similar to this. | 0:54:17 | 0:54:20 | |
It was like a little vest or something, you know. | 0:54:20 | 0:54:22 | |
The kid is so talented at keeping time and clapping. | 0:54:22 | 0:54:27 | |
We need to have him on the record and so Papa Roy, | 0:54:27 | 0:54:32 | |
in this case, which is Roy Orbison Jr, | 0:54:32 | 0:54:35 | |
gets a guitar and puts it on the floor | 0:54:35 | 0:54:38 | |
and the guitar's perfectly tuned and Baby Roy strums the guitar. | 0:54:38 | 0:54:42 | |
And it's the first thing that you hear on Oh, Pretty Woman | 0:54:45 | 0:54:48 | |
and so you have these, like, three generations of Orbison men | 0:54:48 | 0:54:52 | |
and you have all three Roys on this one recording | 0:54:52 | 0:54:56 | |
and it's a surreal feeling. | 0:54:56 | 0:54:59 | |
My dad would say, "I love you," and I would say, "I love you, too." | 0:55:08 | 0:55:11 | |
One time, he told me really seriously, | 0:55:11 | 0:55:13 | |
he said, "Son, you'll never know how much I love you..." | 0:55:13 | 0:55:16 | |
He said, "Son, you'll never know how much I love you | 0:55:18 | 0:55:21 | |
"until you have a son of your own." | 0:55:21 | 0:55:23 | |
And I didn't fully realise what he meant | 0:55:23 | 0:55:27 | |
until I saw little Baby Roy playing music | 0:55:27 | 0:55:30 | |
on this Royal Philharmonic song Pretty Woman | 0:55:30 | 0:55:33 | |
and it was like a chain of lightning that... | 0:55:33 | 0:55:36 | |
You know, I felt that that's that torch we're talking about, | 0:55:36 | 0:55:39 | |
that's that music. | 0:55:39 | 0:55:41 | |
I felt that chain of lightning going through me as I looked at him | 0:55:41 | 0:55:44 | |
and through that, I know what he would have seen | 0:55:44 | 0:55:47 | |
by Alex and Wesley and I playing on this album. | 0:55:47 | 0:55:50 | |
He would have shed a tear over that, for sure. | 0:55:50 | 0:55:52 | |
# There goes my baby | 0:55:52 | 0:55:56 | |
# And there goes my heart... # | 0:55:56 | 0:55:59 | |
He was just really a terrific person to have known | 0:55:59 | 0:56:03 | |
and those of us who were lucky enough to love him, | 0:56:03 | 0:56:08 | |
we really got something special, you know. | 0:56:08 | 0:56:10 | |
# Know why I-I | 0:56:12 | 0:56:15 | |
# I cry... # | 0:56:15 | 0:56:18 | |
To experience life through the prism of those songs, | 0:56:18 | 0:56:21 | |
they were the lessons that we learned about relationships | 0:56:21 | 0:56:25 | |
and love and heartbreak. | 0:56:25 | 0:56:26 | |
They were the soundtrack to our lives | 0:56:28 | 0:56:30 | |
and we ended up living the sadness in those songs. | 0:56:30 | 0:56:36 | |
# Only the lonely | 0:56:36 | 0:56:40 | |
# Only the lonely... # | 0:56:40 | 0:56:43 | |
It's crazy to find your real calling later in life | 0:56:43 | 0:56:49 | |
and, you know, I'm a drummer by trade, but... | 0:56:49 | 0:56:53 | |
..looking after my dad and my brothers is my true calling. | 0:56:56 | 0:57:00 | |
# Maybe tomorrow | 0:57:03 | 0:57:05 | |
# A new romance... # | 0:57:05 | 0:57:09 | |
They would always ask him, "Roy, how would you like to be remembered?" | 0:57:09 | 0:57:14 | |
And he would just say, "I would just like to be remembered." | 0:57:14 | 0:57:18 | |
# You gotta take | 0:57:18 | 0:57:23 | |
# If your lonely heart breaks | 0:57:23 | 0:57:28 | |
# Only the lonely. # | 0:57:28 | 0:57:31 | |
CHEERING | 0:57:38 | 0:57:41 |