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Iiiit's showtime! | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
Tom does not want to be obvious. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:10 | |
# Blow, wind blow... # | 0:00:10 | 0:00:12 | |
And that's what lures us into his music. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:15 | |
It's not simple. It's not complete. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:17 | |
There's room for us to get lost in it. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:19 | |
# Wasted and wounded | 0:00:22 | 0:00:25 | |
# No, it ain't what the moon did... # | 0:00:25 | 0:00:28 | |
-When he sings... -SHE GROWLS | 0:00:28 | 0:00:30 | |
..he goes into that completely monstrous, demon voice. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:35 | |
Like he's possessed. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:37 | |
# Well, when I'm lying in my bed at night... # | 0:00:37 | 0:00:40 | |
THROATY GROWL | 0:00:40 | 0:00:42 | |
Nobody writes in so many characters so effectively | 0:00:42 | 0:00:45 | |
and gets away with it. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:47 | |
Can I get a hallelujah? | 0:00:48 | 0:00:50 | |
# I'm going straight up to the top... # | 0:00:50 | 0:00:53 | |
And somehow, he put all that under the banner Tom Waits. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:56 | |
# Will I see you tonight | 0:00:56 | 0:01:00 | |
# On a downtown train? | 0:01:00 | 0:01:04 | |
# Where every night | 0:01:05 | 0:01:07 | |
# Where every night, it's just the same... # | 0:01:07 | 0:01:12 | |
How does a guy with a voice like that | 0:01:12 | 0:01:14 | |
decide to be a singer and succeed? | 0:01:14 | 0:01:16 | |
Well, it was a choice between entertainment and | 0:01:16 | 0:01:20 | |
a career in air-conditioning and refrigeration. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:22 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:01:22 | 0:01:24 | |
I was just so impressed with his stage persona. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:28 | |
Because that's what it was, really. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:31 | |
How much of that is real? I don't know. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:34 | |
They say that I have no hits, that I'm difficult to work with. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:40 | |
And they say that like it's a bad thing. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:42 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:01:42 | 0:01:44 | |
# 16 shells from a thirty-aught-six... # | 0:01:44 | 0:01:48 | |
It's experimental music, in the context of pop music. | 0:01:48 | 0:01:52 | |
# And a black crow snuck through a hole in the sky...# | 0:01:52 | 0:01:56 | |
I think I'm drawn as much to melody as I am to dissonance, you know? | 0:01:56 | 0:02:01 | |
I'm always trying to cross the wires a little bit. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:04 | |
SONG: Heartattack And Vine | 0:02:04 | 0:02:07 | |
This programme contains some strong language | 0:02:07 | 0:02:14 | |
Do you have any philosophies about writing? | 0:02:33 | 0:02:36 | |
Yeah, never sleep with a girl named Ruby | 0:02:36 | 0:02:38 | |
and never play pool with a guy named Fats. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:40 | |
I was born at a very young age, | 0:02:47 | 0:02:49 | |
and I was born in the back seat of a yellow cab | 0:02:49 | 0:02:52 | |
in Murphy Hospital parking lot. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:55 | |
And it was kind of a Thunderbird moon | 0:02:55 | 0:02:58 | |
that crawled across a muscatel sky there. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:01 | |
So I decided what I was going to do very young. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:06 | |
My father's a teacher. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:19 | |
And my mother's also a teacher. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:21 | |
They split up when I was about ten years old, | 0:03:21 | 0:03:24 | |
and I kind became the man of the family, you know? | 0:03:24 | 0:03:27 | |
When I was 14, I started working. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:31 | |
When I left home, I got in a little trouble. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:35 | |
Staying out after dark a lot. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:38 | |
-What doing? -Huh? -What doing? | 0:03:38 | 0:03:40 | |
Oh, you know. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:43 | |
# I'm going to Californ' | 0:03:47 | 0:03:49 | |
# I'm gon' live on Beverly Hill... # | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
He's an extraordinary painter of pictures, | 0:04:04 | 0:04:07 | |
as well as a teller of stories. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:09 | |
He's very focused on Los Angeles. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:11 | |
That's the kind of city that he's trying to make sense of. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:15 | |
# Well, you gassed her up | 0:04:19 | 0:04:22 | |
# Behind the wheel | 0:04:22 | 0:04:25 | |
# With your arm around your sweet one | 0:04:25 | 0:04:27 | |
# In your Oldsmobile | 0:04:27 | 0:04:29 | |
# Barrelling down the boulevard | 0:04:29 | 0:04:32 | |
# You're looking for the heart of Saturday night... # | 0:04:32 | 0:04:36 | |
On the one hand, you could listen to it, | 0:04:38 | 0:04:40 | |
it sounds like a guy talking about, | 0:04:40 | 0:04:43 | |
"Hey, it's Saturday night, | 0:04:43 | 0:04:44 | |
"let's go out and find some fun," | 0:04:44 | 0:04:46 | |
you know, kind of thing. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:47 | |
But then, as Tom Waits always manages so brilliantly to do, | 0:04:49 | 0:04:54 | |
he's uncovering other layers there. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:57 | |
There is a romance to it | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
and you don't know with Tom exactly whether | 0:05:03 | 0:05:06 | |
it's the night he has a romance with, | 0:05:06 | 0:05:09 | |
or whether it's a pretty girl. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:11 | |
You just don't know with Tom. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:13 | |
# You're looking for the heart of Saturday night | 0:05:13 | 0:05:17 | |
# Tell me, is it the crackle of pool balls, neon buzzing...? # | 0:05:20 | 0:05:25 | |
Loneliness is so much at the heart of so much of his music, | 0:05:25 | 0:05:28 | |
it's just a longing for something. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:31 | |
And being alone and how do you live with that? How do you deal with it? | 0:05:31 | 0:05:36 | |
# Magic of the melancholy tear in your eye... # | 0:05:36 | 0:05:39 | |
I think Waits is a poet of doomed LA no-hopers. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:46 | |
People who are almost like characters from a noir novel, | 0:05:46 | 0:05:50 | |
they're getting their last chance at love. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:54 | |
# Stumbling onto the heart of Saturday night. # | 0:05:54 | 0:05:57 | |
I mean, everybody needs a different climate in order to create. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:04 | |
Mine usually comes if I'm talking to somebody in a bar or something. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:08 | |
I get a couple of lagers and try to stretch out a conversation, | 0:06:08 | 0:06:13 | |
I try to open things up, and then I try to remember it all later, | 0:06:13 | 0:06:17 | |
and then write it down, you know? | 0:06:17 | 0:06:19 | |
We got in a taxi, and he started talking to a taxi driver right away, | 0:06:25 | 0:06:29 | |
like he was his next-door neighbour or something. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:32 | |
By the time we got out of the taxi, he knew all about the guy. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:35 | |
Whatever was in the street, | 0:06:35 | 0:06:37 | |
Tom scooped it up and made something out of it. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:40 | |
We all fancied ourselves as these characters that Tom was conjuring. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:48 | |
Well, who isn't looking for | 0:06:49 | 0:06:50 | |
cinematic romance in their everyday lives? | 0:06:50 | 0:06:54 | |
There's a real romance to hanging around these places. | 0:06:55 | 0:06:59 | |
It's where you go to meet girls, | 0:07:02 | 0:07:04 | |
but it's also where you go to invent yourself in strangers' eyes. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:08 | |
And his right hand would say, come on, boy, go down, across the ground. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:18 | |
Go moan for man. Go moan. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:20 | |
Go groan. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:22 | |
Go groan alone. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:23 | |
Go roll your bones alone. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:25 | |
Go down and be little beneath my sight. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:28 | |
Go down and be the minutest seed in the pod. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:32 | |
Go down, go down, die hence. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:35 | |
Have this world report you well and truly. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:37 | |
Yeah. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:39 | |
We're about to talk about Jack Kerouac here. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:45 | |
I started reading Jack Kerouac when I was still in high school. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:53 | |
And... | 0:07:53 | 0:07:54 | |
So, I guess that's over ten years ago. | 0:07:56 | 0:07:59 | |
I think he understood the same things that Kerouac | 0:08:00 | 0:08:05 | |
and writers of his generation were talking about. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:10 | |
I see Tom Waits as being able to visit that. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:14 | |
So I guess I will always... | 0:08:15 | 0:08:18 | |
..owe a debt to Jack Kerouac for finally opening my eyes. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:27 | |
And making me feel like it's all right to sleep till | 0:08:30 | 0:08:34 | |
four in the afternoon and go out all night and... | 0:08:34 | 0:08:37 | |
..and take a good, hard look | 0:08:41 | 0:08:43 | |
at the underbelly of the bowels of a major urban centre. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:47 | |
LIVELY JAZZ SAX | 0:08:47 | 0:08:49 | |
Tom loves tenor saxophones. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:53 | |
That was the sound of loneliness, and that was the sound of love. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:58 | |
I think that's one of the things that drew us together, | 0:08:58 | 0:09:01 | |
that I'd made a lot of jazz records, | 0:09:01 | 0:09:03 | |
and improvisation was very much at the meat of those things. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:07 | |
We talked a lot about that kind of music, | 0:09:07 | 0:09:10 | |
where it just comes right out from your gut. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:13 | |
# Bwaaaah | 0:09:13 | 0:09:16 | |
# Baduh | 0:09:16 | 0:09:18 | |
# It's all about the kind of cat | 0:09:19 | 0:09:20 | |
# Who would sell you a rat's asshole for a wedding ring | 0:09:20 | 0:09:23 | |
# All you got to do is bend right over and step right up | 0:09:25 | 0:09:29 | |
# Step right up, step right up... | 0:09:29 | 0:09:31 | |
Step Right Up is kind of a Kerouac-esque | 0:09:31 | 0:09:33 | |
stream of consciousness, | 0:09:33 | 0:09:35 | |
in the way that Kerouac wrote on typewriter, | 0:09:35 | 0:09:37 | |
he had a huge reel of paper, so he could just continue | 0:09:37 | 0:09:39 | |
throughout the night, | 0:09:39 | 0:09:41 | |
and whatever came out of his head made it onto the paper. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:45 | |
# How about perfume? We got perfume | 0:09:45 | 0:09:47 | |
# How about an engagement ring? | 0:09:47 | 0:09:50 | |
# Something for the little lady, something for the little lady | 0:09:50 | 0:09:52 | |
# Something for the little lady... # | 0:09:52 | 0:09:54 | |
You can tell he's written it quite spontaneously. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:56 | |
Having fun with the idea of a carpetbagger. | 0:09:56 | 0:10:00 | |
A door-to-door salesman, or somebody at a carnival. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:04 | |
# Go, and now the penny go, and now the penny go, and now the penny go | 0:10:04 | 0:10:07 | |
# And now the penny go and not a penny less | 0:10:07 | 0:10:09 | |
# 50% off original retail price... # | 0:10:09 | 0:10:12 | |
All these brilliant phrases from, | 0:10:12 | 0:10:14 | |
not even modern advertising parlance, | 0:10:14 | 0:10:17 | |
it's '40s and '50s advertising parlance. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:20 | |
# Bawah! # | 0:10:20 | 0:10:22 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:10:22 | 0:10:25 | |
I never enjoyed reading in school until I got out of school, | 0:10:25 | 0:10:29 | |
and then I really, you know, | 0:10:29 | 0:10:31 | |
started hanging out in used bookstores and stuff, you know? | 0:10:31 | 0:10:35 | |
What kind of things do you read? | 0:10:35 | 0:10:37 | |
You know, I like... | 0:10:37 | 0:10:39 | |
I like detective novels and stuff. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:41 | |
Oh, my, my, my... | 0:10:50 | 0:10:53 | |
The prostitutes and the pimps and the different, odd characters | 0:10:53 | 0:10:56 | |
who inhabit all these songs and the world that | 0:10:56 | 0:10:59 | |
Tom Waits has created, there's a sort of tenderness, | 0:10:59 | 0:11:02 | |
but there's a slight edginess and a danger as well, at the same time. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:06 | |
# Costello was the champion | 0:11:06 | 0:11:08 | |
# At the St Moritz Hotel | 0:11:08 | 0:11:10 | |
# The best this side of Fairfax | 0:11:10 | 0:11:12 | |
# Reliable sources tell | 0:11:12 | 0:11:14 | |
# Now, his reputation is at large | 0:11:14 | 0:11:16 | |
# He's down at Ben Frank's every day | 0:11:16 | 0:11:19 | |
# Drinking coffee, waiting for the one that got away... # | 0:11:19 | 0:11:22 | |
He's got such a flair for the theatrical. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:25 | |
With his love of cinema and his love of noir. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:29 | |
He has fun with the whole thing. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:31 | |
Achoo. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:33 | |
SNIFFS | 0:11:34 | 0:11:35 | |
Ah, what the hell? You win some, you lose some. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:38 | |
You're searching for something, and you're fearless and | 0:11:39 | 0:11:43 | |
willing to experiment, sometimes you find yourself going back in time | 0:11:43 | 0:11:46 | |
just to locate something that you can't find in the future. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:50 | |
You know, you're trying to discover that which | 0:11:50 | 0:11:53 | |
has been overlooked by moving forward. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:55 | |
# I once wrote about a small little town in northern California | 0:11:57 | 0:12:01 | |
# All about hot summer nights | 0:12:06 | 0:12:08 | |
# And as the trucks roll by with about a forest of trees... # | 0:12:11 | 0:12:16 | |
MAKES THE SOUND OF A CAR DRIVING PAST | 0:12:16 | 0:12:20 | |
I mean, a song like Burma Shave, | 0:12:24 | 0:12:26 | |
really has got a sense of the Badlands about it. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:28 | |
It's a doomed relationship. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:30 | |
It's a couple on the lam. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:32 | |
It's a beautiful narrative. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:34 | |
# And they say dreams are growing wild | 0:12:34 | 0:12:37 | |
# Every night | 0:12:37 | 0:12:40 | |
# Just this side of a little town I know | 0:12:40 | 0:12:44 | |
# Called Burma Shave... # | 0:12:44 | 0:12:45 | |
Burma Shave, of course, is also an advert. It's the American dream. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:48 | |
There's something out there that you need, you require, | 0:12:48 | 0:12:51 | |
that will change your life for the better. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:53 | |
You need Burma Shave. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:54 | |
Why Burma Shave? | 0:12:54 | 0:12:56 | |
He's very into using advertising as metaphors | 0:12:56 | 0:12:59 | |
for the dreams that these people have. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:01 | |
And a cheap, accessible way, they think, | 0:13:01 | 0:13:03 | |
of getting hold of their dreams. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:05 | |
# She sends me | 0:13:10 | 0:13:12 | |
# Blue Valentines | 0:13:13 | 0:13:19 | |
# All the way from Philadelphia... # | 0:13:19 | 0:13:23 | |
He was just a man out of time, clearly. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:26 | |
And he knew it, I think, obviously! | 0:13:26 | 0:13:29 | |
And he played with it. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:33 | |
The craft and young genius of someone who was coming up with | 0:13:33 | 0:13:38 | |
lyrics that were on a par with someone like Johnny Mercer | 0:13:38 | 0:13:41 | |
or Hoagy Carmichael or any of the songwriters that had been | 0:13:41 | 0:13:49 | |
the backbone of the classic American Songbook. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:52 | |
# That's why I'm always on the run | 0:13:56 | 0:14:00 | |
# It's why I changed my name... # | 0:14:00 | 0:14:02 | |
The great American Songbook is something that either | 0:14:04 | 0:14:07 | |
gets to you or it doesn't. And it got to Tom. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:10 | |
Because there was a lot of intelligence | 0:14:11 | 0:14:14 | |
in the lyrics of those songs. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:16 | |
I would go to my friends' houses, and go into the den | 0:14:17 | 0:14:20 | |
with their dads and find out what they were listening to. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:24 | |
I couldn't wait to be an old man. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:26 | |
I was about 13, I didn't really identify with the music of my | 0:14:26 | 0:14:30 | |
own generation, but I seemed to like the old stuff. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:32 | |
Cole Porter, Gershwin, Frank Sinatra. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:36 | |
-SINATRA: -# What is this thing | 0:14:36 | 0:14:41 | |
# Called love? # | 0:14:41 | 0:14:47 | |
Tom had that wonderful talent to absorb all these things that he saw. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:52 | |
It's like storing up paints | 0:14:52 | 0:14:54 | |
and being able to dig out the colours you want | 0:14:54 | 0:14:57 | |
when you get ready to paint a picture. | 0:14:57 | 0:14:59 | |
This is what he does, he paints pictures. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:01 | |
I grew up on a street called Kentucky Avenue. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:05 | |
I was born at a very young age. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:21 | |
And... | 0:15:22 | 0:15:23 | |
When I was about five years old, | 0:15:26 | 0:15:30 | |
I used to walk down Kentucky Avenue collecting cigarette butts. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:34 | |
And I finally got me a paper route. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:40 | |
I used to get up at one o'clock in the morning | 0:15:44 | 0:15:47 | |
so I could deliver my papers and still have time to break the law. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:51 | |
When I first heard that song, it broke my heart. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:57 | |
When he talks about taking the spokes from the wheelchair, | 0:15:57 | 0:16:00 | |
of the kid he's with, and putting them on his shoulders | 0:16:00 | 0:16:03 | |
as if they're wings. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:05 | |
# I'll take the spokes from your wheelchair | 0:16:05 | 0:16:10 | |
# And a magpie's wings | 0:16:10 | 0:16:14 | |
# And I'll tie them to your shoulders and your feet | 0:16:14 | 0:16:21 | |
# And I'll steal a hacksaw from my dad | 0:16:21 | 0:16:26 | |
# And cut the braces off your legs | 0:16:26 | 0:16:29 | |
# And we'll bury them tonight | 0:16:30 | 0:16:34 | |
# Out in the cornfield... # | 0:16:34 | 0:16:38 | |
What other songwriter would include the image of cutting off the | 0:16:38 | 0:16:43 | |
braces on a polio victim? | 0:16:43 | 0:16:47 | |
# Slide all the way down the drain | 0:16:47 | 0:16:51 | |
# To New Orleans in the fall. # | 0:16:54 | 0:17:00 | |
The sad, sweeping, melancholy songs are probably the real Tom Waits. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:04 | |
We get an insight into his actual, real personality. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:08 | |
At a time that Tom was busy writing songs about LA, | 0:17:22 | 0:17:27 | |
if you wanted to find it, you could find some really sleazy parts of LA. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:33 | |
And the people that went with it. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:35 | |
And Tom often went looking for it. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:42 | |
Many times, he went looking for it with a bottle of booze in his hand. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:46 | |
The biggest enemy of this kind of world is the sunrise. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:52 | |
It's like the world outside of morals and normality. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:56 | |
So the women he portrays are from that world. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:00 | |
The album cover of Small Change depicts this, | 0:18:03 | 0:18:07 | |
what looks to me like the back stage of a strip joint. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:12 | |
These are people who are working, | 0:18:14 | 0:18:16 | |
trying their best to get through life, doing what they have to do. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:19 | |
He's not judging. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:21 | |
-REPORTER: -Waits and all his worldly goods have been crammed into | 0:18:45 | 0:18:48 | |
two rooms in a fairly seedy motel in Hollywood's red light district. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:52 | |
It's ankle-deep in clutter. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:54 | |
Waits says, if they clean up around him, | 0:18:54 | 0:18:56 | |
they might just clean out his head as well. | 0:18:56 | 0:18:58 | |
Your songs are about waitresses and bartenders and bums. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:04 | |
Why do you celebrate these people in song? | 0:19:05 | 0:19:08 | |
For the same reason that a lawyer hangs out in a pool room, | 0:19:08 | 0:19:11 | |
or you find a lot of photographers at a wedding, you know? | 0:19:11 | 0:19:15 | |
Because I find a lot of ideas here, | 0:19:16 | 0:19:21 | |
and there's a lot of life going on around here. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:24 | |
And so I'm bit of a private investigator. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:28 | |
Yeah, my dad spent a lot of time in the bars. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:42 | |
My dad drank in the afternoon in really dark bars. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:46 | |
So I was drawn to dark places. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:49 | |
The barfly was something that very much seeped | 0:19:58 | 0:20:01 | |
into Tom Waits' character. | 0:20:01 | 0:20:03 | |
So he became the crumpled suit, you know, | 0:20:03 | 0:20:05 | |
going to bed in the suit, shaving two days before the performance, | 0:20:05 | 0:20:09 | |
so you've got a five o'clock shadow. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:11 | |
He created a character that people could recognise. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
But he made it his own. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:16 | |
Before, I was being a character in my own stories. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:20 | |
I remain in all of the stories. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:25 | |
But, at the same time, I think the creative process is a combination | 0:20:25 | 0:20:29 | |
of imagination and experience and memories and, you know... | 0:20:29 | 0:20:35 | |
So, by the time the story's finished or the song's finished, | 0:20:35 | 0:20:41 | |
it may or may not resemble where the story came from. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:46 | |
He said, "I went down to Skid Row, | 0:20:50 | 0:20:53 | |
"I drank a bottle of whisky, threw up and wrote Tom Traubert's Blues." | 0:20:53 | 0:20:59 | |
That's the way Tom operated. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:01 | |
# Wasted and wounded | 0:21:01 | 0:21:04 | |
# No, it ain't what the moon did | 0:21:04 | 0:21:09 | |
# Because I got what I paid for, no... # | 0:21:09 | 0:21:13 | |
Wasted and wounded, it ain't what the moon did, I got what I paid for. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:17 | |
It's just an incredible way to start a record. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:20 | |
# Hey, Frank, can I borrow...? # | 0:21:20 | 0:21:23 | |
Because he sounds completely broken in that song, to me. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:27 | |
But it's so uplifting at the same time. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:31 | |
# To go | 0:21:31 | 0:21:33 | |
# Waltzing Matilda | 0:21:33 | 0:21:38 | |
# Waltzing Matilda | 0:21:38 | 0:21:42 | |
# You'll come a-waltzing Matilda with me... # | 0:21:42 | 0:21:50 | |
Every song is like a little creation of the moment. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:53 | |
Somewhere, at four o'clock in the morning, | 0:21:53 | 0:21:55 | |
in between four bottles of whisky and three packs of Gauloises. | 0:21:55 | 0:22:00 | |
# I'm tired of all these soldiers here... # | 0:22:01 | 0:22:07 | |
It's trying to find some truth. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:09 | |
And the only way he can find it is to go deep | 0:22:09 | 0:22:12 | |
and kind of abase yourself. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:15 | |
And then you find out what's there. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:17 | |
To me, he's a mixture | 0:22:21 | 0:22:23 | |
of Satchmo Armstrong and Humphrey Bogart. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:26 | |
So would you welcome the curious and the very talented, Tom Waits. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:30 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:22:30 | 0:22:32 | |
How are you, Tom? | 0:22:47 | 0:22:48 | |
Oh, I'm better than nothing. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:51 | |
You got an ashtray there? | 0:22:51 | 0:22:53 | |
When he was first going on some of the talk shows, | 0:22:53 | 0:22:55 | |
that's when you could smoke on TV shows, and he was smoking. | 0:22:55 | 0:22:59 | |
At 29, you write about all these things that happened to you, | 0:22:59 | 0:23:03 | |
this sort of a lowlife thing that happens, you know? | 0:23:03 | 0:23:05 | |
-There's so much... -You read that right off the page there. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:08 | |
-No, I didn't! -Yeah, you did! | 0:23:08 | 0:23:09 | |
-It says lowlife, right there. -Where? | 0:23:09 | 0:23:12 | |
I was just so impressed with his stage persona. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:16 | |
Because that's what it was, really. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:18 | |
I mean, how much of that is real, I don't know. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:24 | |
Do you worry about achievement? | 0:23:24 | 0:23:26 | |
No, I worry about a lot of things, but I don't worry about achievement. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:30 | |
I worry, primarily, about whether there are nightclubs in heaven. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:34 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:23:34 | 0:23:37 | |
In some ways, he was not that person at all. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:41 | |
Tom came to dinner at my house lots of times. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:45 | |
And he was just, you know, | 0:23:45 | 0:23:47 | |
an ordinary guy with a great sense of humour and a gruff voice. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:51 | |
-Put a little hair on your chest. -He's coming along then, huh? | 0:23:51 | 0:23:55 | |
Oh, you count on it, man. | 0:23:55 | 0:23:57 | |
Well, if he's bringing friends then, you fucking queers... | 0:23:57 | 0:24:00 | |
Watch your language over there, watch it. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:02 | |
Break it down, break it down, cool it off. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:05 | |
I'm writing now. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:13 | |
I'm writing an album, Tales Of Woe From Heartattack And Vine. | 0:24:13 | 0:24:18 | |
It's going to sound a little more like James Brown and the | 0:24:18 | 0:24:21 | |
Famous Flames, that kind of... | 0:24:21 | 0:24:24 | |
feel to it. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:25 | |
I got to shake this whole wino image, you know? | 0:24:26 | 0:24:29 | |
This is a little song dealing with urban problems. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:34 | |
Heartattack And Vine, this mythical street corner, | 0:24:34 | 0:24:37 | |
where there's a bar or a diner. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:40 | |
It's the very inkiest his writing gets. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:44 | |
And the most frightening. But it's... | 0:24:44 | 0:24:46 | |
..ridiculously cool. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:49 | |
# Liar, liar, with your pants on fire | 0:24:54 | 0:24:58 | |
# White spades hanging on a telephone wire | 0:24:59 | 0:25:02 | |
# Well, gamblers re-evaluate along a dotted line | 0:25:04 | 0:25:09 | |
# You'll never recognise yourself on Heartattack And Vine... # | 0:25:09 | 0:25:14 | |
He uses his voice as a gorgeous instrument | 0:25:14 | 0:25:16 | |
for getting across the meaning of these lines. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:19 | |
And, you know, the gravel in his voice is the gravel these | 0:25:19 | 0:25:22 | |
people are having to walk along. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:24 | |
-When he sings... -SHE GROWLS | 0:25:25 | 0:25:28 | |
..he goes into that completely monstrous, demon voice. | 0:25:28 | 0:25:33 | |
Like he's possessed. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:36 | |
I'm the gravelly voiced singer. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:39 | |
Invariably, that's how I'm referred to. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:42 | |
Gargling with various cleaning products, that type of thing. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:47 | |
They're trying to be funny. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:49 | |
I'm OK with that. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:50 | |
My wife said, | 0:25:52 | 0:25:53 | |
"I've never really listened to him, because he scares me." You know? | 0:25:53 | 0:25:57 | |
And I said, "What if I quote the lyrics while the song's on?" | 0:25:57 | 0:26:01 | |
And now she's a huge fan, because she loves great words. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:04 | |
# Boney's high on China white Shorty found a punk | 0:26:04 | 0:26:09 | |
# Don't you know there ain't no devil? | 0:26:09 | 0:26:11 | |
# There's just God when he's drunk... # | 0:26:11 | 0:26:14 | |
You know that ain't no devil, it's just God when he's drunk. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:17 | |
It's fantastic. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:19 | |
It's the duality of man, | 0:26:19 | 0:26:21 | |
it's the duplicity of the character in the song. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:23 | |
And it's also, we're all capable of being great, | 0:26:23 | 0:26:27 | |
we're all capable of being truly awful. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:29 | |
So let me, let me start moving... | 0:26:55 | 0:26:57 | |
Yeah, you count out a drunken three... | 0:26:57 | 0:27:00 | |
Yeah. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:01 | |
It was kind of a step backwards for me, a little bit, because I | 0:27:03 | 0:27:05 | |
had already tried to break out of my mortuary piano and cocktail hairdos. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:13 | |
That whole session with liquor | 0:27:13 | 0:27:16 | |
and my own perverted enjoyment of all that. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:21 | |
He said, "I was sitting there playing the piano last night, | 0:27:32 | 0:27:36 | |
"and there was a knock on the door, and the prettiest girl came in." | 0:27:36 | 0:27:39 | |
And she said, "What are you doing here?" | 0:27:39 | 0:27:41 | |
And he said, "I'm writing songs for One From The Heart, for Francis." | 0:27:41 | 0:27:47 | |
And that was the beginning of that romance. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:50 | |
And how did you meet this guy? | 0:27:54 | 0:27:56 | |
-Accidentally. -Where? | 0:27:56 | 0:27:58 | |
Actually, I was a nun, and he fell asleep in the church, | 0:27:59 | 0:28:03 | |
and I woke him up. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:05 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:28:05 | 0:28:06 | |
Now, that's not true. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:18 | |
It depends... No. | 0:28:18 | 0:28:20 | |
We were both, I was working for Coppola Studios, Zoetrope Studios. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:24 | |
And you saw him perform musically several times, presumably? | 0:28:24 | 0:28:28 | |
-Never, never. -Never? | 0:28:28 | 0:28:30 | |
Had no idea who or what he was. | 0:28:30 | 0:28:32 | |
And, in fact, he frightened me. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:34 | |
Tom was leading a very on-the-edge life. | 0:28:36 | 0:28:40 | |
And Kathleen saved his life. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:43 | |
Because she got him to stop drinking. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:46 | |
I'm the other half of what I consider to be | 0:28:47 | 0:28:50 | |
a really great songwriting team. | 0:28:50 | 0:28:53 | |
She has dreams like Hieronymous Bosch | 0:28:53 | 0:28:56 | |
She writes more from her dreams, | 0:28:56 | 0:28:57 | |
I write more from the world or from the newspaper. | 0:28:57 | 0:28:59 | |
And somehow it all works together. | 0:28:59 | 0:29:01 | |
# I plugged 16 shells from a thirty-aught-six... # | 0:29:17 | 0:29:21 | |
A swordfishtrombone, what the hell is that? | 0:29:21 | 0:29:24 | |
Is it a trombone with a swordfish attached? | 0:29:24 | 0:29:26 | |
I've got absolutely no idea, but it gives you an image. | 0:29:26 | 0:29:28 | |
It's going to be sharp, edgy, brassy and strange. | 0:29:28 | 0:29:32 | |
And it's going to really screw up your head for a while. | 0:29:32 | 0:29:35 | |
# And I made me a ladder from a pawnshop marimba... # | 0:29:38 | 0:29:43 | |
When you don't realise where it comes in the lineage, | 0:29:43 | 0:29:46 | |
Swordfishtrombones is even more spectacular. | 0:29:46 | 0:29:49 | |
If you just heard it and didn't know anything else about what had | 0:29:49 | 0:29:52 | |
happened before with Tom Waits' music, | 0:29:52 | 0:29:54 | |
you'd know it was a great record. | 0:29:54 | 0:29:55 | |
But that it came out of nowhere, in the way that it does. | 0:29:55 | 0:29:58 | |
It's so inventive. | 0:29:58 | 0:30:00 | |
# I'm gonna whittle you into kindling | 0:30:00 | 0:30:03 | |
# 16 shells from a thirty-aught-six... # | 0:30:03 | 0:30:08 | |
It's complete artistic reinvention. | 0:30:08 | 0:30:11 | |
He sort of went from black-and-white film noir | 0:30:12 | 0:30:15 | |
to some completely garish Technicolor. | 0:30:15 | 0:30:18 | |
# 16 shells from a thirty-aught-six... # | 0:30:18 | 0:30:22 | |
You know, he's having a lot of fun with this ragtag band, | 0:30:29 | 0:30:33 | |
that sound like they're only just holding it together. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:36 | |
And these almost stream of consciousness lyrics, | 0:30:36 | 0:30:38 | |
and the howling, the howling blues voice. | 0:30:38 | 0:30:40 | |
# Just gon' | 0:30:40 | 0:30:44 | |
# Gon' drink... # | 0:30:44 | 0:30:48 | |
The influence of Kathleen, his wife, she was a story analyst | 0:30:48 | 0:30:51 | |
and a screenwriter. It brings a real cinematic quality to his music. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:55 | |
There's something very theatrical about his instrumentation. | 0:30:55 | 0:30:59 | |
It changed the way I hear music. | 0:31:03 | 0:31:05 | |
Made me more rhythmic, more fearless, more percussive. | 0:31:05 | 0:31:10 | |
The idea of, make your own instruments, | 0:31:10 | 0:31:12 | |
you don't have to play that if you don't like it, make one yourself. | 0:31:12 | 0:31:15 | |
Make one that sounds better. | 0:31:15 | 0:31:17 | |
# In the neighbourhood | 0:31:17 | 0:31:21 | |
# In the neighbourhood | 0:31:21 | 0:31:24 | |
# In the neighbourhood... # | 0:31:24 | 0:31:31 | |
He moved on from talking about everyday life and blue-collar | 0:31:31 | 0:31:36 | |
nightlife to absolute madness and dementia, in a way. | 0:31:36 | 0:31:39 | |
He sees the beauty in the freakish, and the outcasts and the outsiders. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:46 | |
# Butch joined the Army, yeah | 0:31:46 | 0:31:49 | |
# That's where he's been... # | 0:31:49 | 0:31:51 | |
Suddenly, on Swordfishtrombones, within individual songs, | 0:31:51 | 0:31:55 | |
he's jumping from a kind of an escaped criminal. | 0:31:55 | 0:31:59 | |
But then suddenly, he's a leprechaun. | 0:32:02 | 0:32:05 | |
OK, Tom. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:06 | |
Some of the stuff's a little more exotic. | 0:32:12 | 0:32:15 | |
I used a banjo, accordion, bass marimba. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:18 | |
African squeeze drum, calliope, harmonium. | 0:32:19 | 0:32:23 | |
One of the problems that a lot of musicians have is that their | 0:32:27 | 0:32:30 | |
hands can get very used to playing certain instruments. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:34 | |
So you're no longer, kind of, necessarily feeling, | 0:32:34 | 0:32:37 | |
you're actually observing your hands doing this. | 0:32:37 | 0:32:39 | |
Tom Waits became very aware of this, and with Swordfishtrombones, | 0:32:39 | 0:32:42 | |
he actually said, I want to move away from that, | 0:32:42 | 0:32:45 | |
and he started playing unusual instruments. | 0:32:45 | 0:32:47 | |
He started to try to rediscover his spirit. | 0:32:47 | 0:32:52 | |
Harry Partch was a composer. | 0:32:56 | 0:32:59 | |
He used to make his own instruments. | 0:33:01 | 0:33:03 | |
These instruments were amazing-looking. | 0:33:03 | 0:33:06 | |
They looked like outer-space sculptures. | 0:33:06 | 0:33:09 | |
And you can see how something like that would appeal to Tom Waits. | 0:33:09 | 0:33:13 | |
In Shore Leave, you can hear a chair being dragged across the floor | 0:33:19 | 0:33:23 | |
as an instrument, you know? | 0:33:23 | 0:33:25 | |
And that's pretty amazing, that he did that. | 0:33:25 | 0:33:29 | |
He probably heard it and went, "Hey, let's put that in a song." | 0:33:29 | 0:33:32 | |
Eight o'clock, show's about to start, come on in. | 0:33:32 | 0:33:35 | |
Shore Leave is a song, another one of those tied neatly with a bow. | 0:33:37 | 0:33:40 | |
You have a character, you have a situation, he tells you | 0:33:40 | 0:33:43 | |
exactly what you need to hear, right down to the tiniest detail. | 0:33:43 | 0:33:47 | |
I think I could probably recite the whole song from the top. | 0:33:47 | 0:33:51 | |
Do you want me to have a go? | 0:33:51 | 0:33:53 | |
With bloodshot eyes and a purple heart | 0:33:55 | 0:33:58 | |
I rolled down the National Stroll... | 0:33:58 | 0:34:00 | |
I've jumped a load, haven't I? | 0:34:00 | 0:34:02 | |
With bloodshot eyes and a purple heart... | 0:34:02 | 0:34:05 | |
# With bloodshot eyes and a purple heart | 0:34:05 | 0:34:10 | |
# I just rolled down the National Stroll... # | 0:34:10 | 0:34:14 | |
I worked at a restaurant in a sailor town for | 0:34:14 | 0:34:18 | |
a long time in National City. | 0:34:18 | 0:34:19 | |
It was next to a tattoo parlour and a country-western dance hall. | 0:34:21 | 0:34:26 | |
# And I sat down and wrote a letter to my wife | 0:34:27 | 0:34:31 | |
# I said, Baby | 0:34:32 | 0:34:35 | |
# I'm so far away from home... # | 0:34:35 | 0:34:40 | |
And then it gets towards the end, and he says, | 0:34:40 | 0:34:42 | |
"I wondered how the moon that shines down over this Chinatown fair | 0:34:42 | 0:34:46 | |
"Could look down on Illinois and find you there." | 0:34:46 | 0:34:49 | |
# And I wondered how that same moon outside | 0:34:50 | 0:34:54 | |
# Over this Chinatown fair | 0:34:54 | 0:34:56 | |
# Could look down on Illinois | 0:34:56 | 0:34:58 | |
# And find you there... # | 0:34:58 | 0:35:00 | |
An aching bit of classic, Waitsian romance at the end of this, | 0:35:02 | 0:35:06 | |
sort of, portrait of a sailor on his shore leave. | 0:35:06 | 0:35:11 | |
# Outside, another yellow moon | 0:35:23 | 0:35:26 | |
# Has punched a hole in the night-time, yes | 0:35:28 | 0:35:32 | |
# I climb through the window and down to the street | 0:35:32 | 0:35:37 | |
# I'm shining like a new dime... # | 0:35:37 | 0:35:40 | |
I feel that Rain Dogs was probably very much influenced by Tom, | 0:35:40 | 0:35:44 | |
Kathleen and their kids living in New York City. | 0:35:44 | 0:35:48 | |
New York is so concentrated, it's like in your face, nyah, nyah, nyah. | 0:35:48 | 0:35:52 | |
# Will I see you tonight | 0:35:52 | 0:35:56 | |
# On a downtown train...? # | 0:35:56 | 0:35:59 | |
That had to be a huge influence on him, just being there. | 0:35:59 | 0:36:02 | |
# All of my dreams just fall like rain | 0:36:02 | 0:36:04 | |
# All on a downtown train. # | 0:36:07 | 0:36:09 | |
In direct experience of anyone walking down the street in New York, | 0:36:11 | 0:36:16 | |
you hear a lot of influences | 0:36:16 | 0:36:18 | |
of different cultures, simultaneously. | 0:36:18 | 0:36:23 | |
America's like the melting pot, but in Waits' work, | 0:36:23 | 0:36:26 | |
it works more like a juxtaposition. | 0:36:26 | 0:36:28 | |
I went to a rehearsal building on Times Square in New York, | 0:36:30 | 0:36:34 | |
and you could hear every kind of music coming to you through | 0:36:34 | 0:36:39 | |
the walls, through the windows, underneath the door. | 0:36:39 | 0:36:42 | |
There were African bands, and you had comedians, and I think | 0:36:42 | 0:36:47 | |
I just liked the whole melange of it, you know? | 0:36:47 | 0:36:52 | |
The way it all kind of mixes together. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:54 | |
I like hearing things incorrectly. | 0:36:54 | 0:36:56 | |
I think that's how I get a lot of ideas, by mishearing something. | 0:36:56 | 0:37:01 | |
I was just messing around, we were just jamming, | 0:37:01 | 0:37:03 | |
and I just stuck the alto and tenor in my mouth, | 0:37:03 | 0:37:05 | |
just playing, he walked in the room and he goes... | 0:37:05 | 0:37:08 | |
"What are you doing? What is that? What are you doing?" | 0:37:08 | 0:37:11 | |
Like, I don't know, I was messing around. "Let's use that." | 0:37:11 | 0:37:15 | |
Well, I ain't going back to Detroit, that's for damn sure. | 0:37:17 | 0:37:21 | |
You are not the only innocent asshole in here. | 0:37:26 | 0:37:30 | |
I was set up too. | 0:37:34 | 0:37:36 | |
All of his cinematic work, Down By Law, Rumble Fish, | 0:37:36 | 0:37:39 | |
all of these films, he's always come across as an outsider. | 0:37:39 | 0:37:43 | |
# Shadow music... # | 0:37:45 | 0:37:47 | |
Zack, my man. | 0:37:47 | 0:37:50 | |
What the fuck you doing out here in the garbage? | 0:37:51 | 0:37:55 | |
Just leave me alone, Preston. | 0:37:55 | 0:37:56 | |
I'm in a bad mood. | 0:38:00 | 0:38:02 | |
He's a brilliant actor, he's a brilliant performer. | 0:38:02 | 0:38:04 | |
I think there are some people who think Tom was a fake because | 0:38:04 | 0:38:07 | |
he's a great actor. But a great actor is not necessarily a fake. | 0:38:07 | 0:38:10 | |
Yeah, sure. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:13 | |
It helped me get outside myself a little bit, | 0:38:13 | 0:38:16 | |
and it helped me shape shift a little bit, | 0:38:16 | 0:38:19 | |
or take on the persona of someone other than myself. | 0:38:19 | 0:38:23 | |
Even though you say I, you're not necessarily the I in your song. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:28 | |
You sing a song, you are kind of like acting, you know? | 0:38:28 | 0:38:31 | |
HOWLING | 0:38:31 | 0:38:33 | |
# Inside a broken clock | 0:38:42 | 0:38:46 | |
# Splashed the wine | 0:38:46 | 0:38:47 | |
# With all the rain dogs | 0:38:47 | 0:38:50 | |
# Taxi, taxi, taxi | 0:38:50 | 0:38:54 | |
# We'd rather walk | 0:38:54 | 0:38:56 | |
# Huddle a doorway with the rain dogs | 0:38:56 | 0:39:00 | |
# For I am a rain dog too... # | 0:39:00 | 0:39:05 | |
When I started playing with Tom, | 0:39:05 | 0:39:07 | |
not only was he doing the more avant-garde stuff, | 0:39:07 | 0:39:10 | |
but he was also getting into European stuff, like Germany. | 0:39:10 | 0:39:15 | |
SINGS A NONSENSE OOMPAH MARCH | 0:39:15 | 0:39:19 | |
You know, those kind of tunes which nobody else was doing. | 0:39:19 | 0:39:22 | |
# And she whispered to me... # | 0:39:22 | 0:39:25 | |
Kurt Weill, Threepenny Opera and those things were | 0:39:25 | 0:39:28 | |
a huge influence at that time for him. | 0:39:28 | 0:39:30 | |
# Oh, show us the way to the next whisky bar | 0:39:33 | 0:39:38 | |
# Oh, don't ask why | 0:39:38 | 0:39:40 | |
# Oh, don't ask why... # | 0:39:40 | 0:39:42 | |
Somebody told me, hey, you sound like this guy Kurt Weill. | 0:39:42 | 0:39:46 | |
So I was thinking I was kind of moving in that direction | 0:39:46 | 0:39:48 | |
without knowing how or why. | 0:39:48 | 0:39:51 | |
He took melodies that were very alluring, | 0:39:51 | 0:39:54 | |
and he said things very disturbing inside of them. | 0:39:54 | 0:39:58 | |
And I think I'm drawn to that. | 0:39:58 | 0:40:01 | |
# For I am a rain dog too... # | 0:40:01 | 0:40:06 | |
He was always a showman, but now he was sort of saying, | 0:40:06 | 0:40:08 | |
it's vaudeville, and I'm going to dress up almost like | 0:40:08 | 0:40:11 | |
a vaudeville performer, and I'm going to be entertaining you with | 0:40:11 | 0:40:15 | |
bleak songs that, in some cases, are done in quite a jaunty style. | 0:40:15 | 0:40:20 | |
# We'll never be going back home. # | 0:40:20 | 0:40:26 | |
He loves to crawl into a kind of wicked, clown-esque personalities, | 0:40:26 | 0:40:33 | |
and express through that something very urgent and strong, | 0:40:33 | 0:40:38 | |
that almost, I find, he would be too shy to do as himself. | 0:40:38 | 0:40:42 | |
So I think the role-playing, for him, | 0:40:42 | 0:40:45 | |
is definitely a way of being able to express himself more extremely | 0:40:45 | 0:40:49 | |
than he would dare as Tom Waits. | 0:40:49 | 0:40:51 | |
Welcome to Miss Keiko's Chi Chi Club. | 0:40:56 | 0:40:58 | |
Iiiit's showtime! | 0:40:58 | 0:41:01 | |
# Blow, wind blow | 0:41:01 | 0:41:04 | |
# Wherever you may go | 0:41:04 | 0:41:08 | |
# For I don't know the code | 0:41:08 | 0:41:12 | |
# Take me away... # | 0:41:12 | 0:41:14 | |
If I started dressing up and singing in different voices and | 0:41:14 | 0:41:18 | |
pretending I was from different centuries, | 0:41:18 | 0:41:21 | |
I'd get kicked out me band for a start. | 0:41:21 | 0:41:23 | |
But, Tom Waits, that's all he's ever done. | 0:41:23 | 0:41:26 | |
# Blow me away... # | 0:41:26 | 0:41:29 | |
This mid-period Tom Waits is much more stylised. | 0:41:29 | 0:41:34 | |
There's much more artifice. | 0:41:34 | 0:41:36 | |
He's clearly saying all this contrivance is to an end. | 0:41:38 | 0:41:43 | |
This is a whole aesthetic, | 0:41:43 | 0:41:45 | |
and that this is essential to the way I make music. | 0:41:45 | 0:41:50 | |
# Put my Raleighs on the dashboard... # | 0:41:51 | 0:41:55 | |
One of the things that connects me and Tom so closely | 0:41:55 | 0:41:59 | |
is the circus, the freak shows, were my childhood. | 0:41:59 | 0:42:02 | |
# Take me into the light... # | 0:42:02 | 0:42:07 | |
The carnival was always, you could just descend into hell. | 0:42:07 | 0:42:11 | |
And come out. | 0:42:11 | 0:42:12 | |
# Blow me away. # | 0:42:12 | 0:42:19 | |
Frank settled down, out in the Valley. | 0:42:33 | 0:42:36 | |
And he hung his wild years on a nail | 0:42:36 | 0:42:38 | |
that he drove through his wife's forehead. | 0:42:38 | 0:42:41 | |
He sold used office furniture out there on San Fernando Road, | 0:42:41 | 0:42:44 | |
and assumed a 30,000 loan at 15.25%, | 0:42:44 | 0:42:47 | |
put a down payment on a little two-bedroom place. | 0:42:47 | 0:42:51 | |
He just found a way of introducing his whole concept of storytelling. | 0:42:51 | 0:42:57 | |
..most of the time, had a little Chihuahua named Carlos... | 0:42:57 | 0:43:00 | |
People say it's connected to his relationship with his dad, | 0:43:00 | 0:43:03 | |
with his dad, Frank. | 0:43:03 | 0:43:05 | |
One night, Frank was on his way home from work. | 0:43:05 | 0:43:07 | |
He stopped at the liquor store. | 0:43:07 | 0:43:09 | |
Picked up a couple of Mickey's Big Mouths. | 0:43:09 | 0:43:13 | |
Drank 'em in the car on the way to the Shell station. | 0:43:13 | 0:43:16 | |
Got a gallon of gas in a can. | 0:43:16 | 0:43:19 | |
Drove home, doused everything in the house, torched it. | 0:43:19 | 0:43:22 | |
Parked across the street, laughing, watching it burning. | 0:43:24 | 0:43:27 | |
All Halloween orange and chimney red. | 0:43:27 | 0:43:31 | |
And Frank put on a top-40 station. | 0:43:31 | 0:43:34 | |
Got on the Hollywood Freeway, headed north. | 0:43:34 | 0:43:39 | |
Never could stand that dog. | 0:43:39 | 0:43:40 | |
The American dream is to have lots of money and to be a success. | 0:43:43 | 0:43:47 | |
And you don't get many songs about people who've got lots of money | 0:43:47 | 0:43:49 | |
and are a success in Tom Waits' songs. | 0:43:49 | 0:43:52 | |
They're desperados. | 0:43:52 | 0:43:54 | |
Charles Bukowski had a story that essentially was saying that | 0:43:56 | 0:44:00 | |
it's the little things that drive men mad. | 0:44:00 | 0:44:04 | |
It's the broken shoelace when there's no time left | 0:44:04 | 0:44:07 | |
that sends men completely out of their minds. | 0:44:07 | 0:44:10 | |
And so this is kind of in that spirit. | 0:44:12 | 0:44:14 | |
And I think there's a little bit of Frank in everybody. | 0:44:16 | 0:44:19 | |
# Rusted brandy in a diamond glass | 0:44:27 | 0:44:32 | |
# Everything is made from dreams | 0:44:32 | 0:44:36 | |
# Time is made from honey, slow and sweet | 0:44:36 | 0:44:40 | |
# Only the fools know what it means... # | 0:44:40 | 0:44:44 | |
There's a spirit, whether it's a spirit of desperation | 0:44:44 | 0:44:48 | |
or a spirit of determined self-delusion. | 0:44:48 | 0:44:53 | |
There's still, to all these characters, | 0:44:55 | 0:44:58 | |
a sort of fractured, broken nobility to their indignity, | 0:44:58 | 0:45:04 | |
to their unseemly demises. | 0:45:04 | 0:45:07 | |
# Temptation... # | 0:45:07 | 0:45:11 | |
All right. | 0:45:15 | 0:45:16 | |
You're beautiful. | 0:45:16 | 0:45:17 | |
No, no, I know, I know - you hear that all the time, you know.. | 0:45:19 | 0:45:23 | |
# You are beautiful | 0:45:23 | 0:45:28 | |
# To me... # | 0:45:28 | 0:45:31 | |
Frank's Wild Years is my favourite. | 0:45:31 | 0:45:33 | |
I love his Frank Sinatra character. | 0:45:33 | 0:45:36 | |
You know, "Roll over, big town." | 0:45:36 | 0:45:38 | |
So there's only one place to go. | 0:45:39 | 0:45:41 | |
# I'm going straight up to the top | 0:45:41 | 0:45:45 | |
# Oh, yeah... # | 0:45:45 | 0:45:47 | |
He plays with the arrangement of those things, | 0:45:47 | 0:45:50 | |
not unlike Charles Mingus. | 0:45:50 | 0:45:52 | |
Where he brings in these slightly jarring tonalities, | 0:45:52 | 0:45:57 | |
that take what sounds like a swinging, | 0:45:57 | 0:46:01 | |
early '60s kind of lounge number, | 0:46:01 | 0:46:04 | |
and turns it into a disorientating, | 0:46:04 | 0:46:08 | |
swirl of sounds that... | 0:46:08 | 0:46:10 | |
..evokes a descent into some sort of moral dissolution. | 0:46:12 | 0:46:18 | |
# Someone made me that way | 0:46:18 | 0:46:25 | |
# Top! # | 0:46:25 | 0:46:27 | |
He was just trying to go for, not making it straight, | 0:46:27 | 0:46:30 | |
but just slightly warped. I mean, that's the thing | 0:46:30 | 0:46:32 | |
I was able to add, because I'm kind of warped myself. | 0:46:32 | 0:46:38 | |
But that was an unspoken word, you did have to say it. | 0:46:38 | 0:46:41 | |
# Where the air is... # | 0:46:41 | 0:46:43 | |
It's images of desolation and hopelessness. | 0:46:43 | 0:46:47 | |
# Fresh | 0:46:47 | 0:46:50 | |
# Fresh and clean. # | 0:46:50 | 0:46:54 | |
And by the end of it, he's broken and on his knees, | 0:46:54 | 0:46:57 | |
and it's all gone terribly wrong. | 0:46:57 | 0:46:59 | |
# When you walk with Jesus | 0:47:02 | 0:47:06 | |
# He's gonna save your soul | 0:47:06 | 0:47:09 | |
# You got to keep the devil | 0:47:10 | 0:47:12 | |
# You got to keep him down in the hole... # | 0:47:14 | 0:47:18 | |
They're just such great stories. | 0:47:18 | 0:47:20 | |
The subculture or underbelly of life that Tom Waits goes into, | 0:47:20 | 0:47:26 | |
this screaming, dramatic, hellfire and brimstone preacher. | 0:47:26 | 0:47:31 | |
# Praise the Lord | 0:47:31 | 0:47:34 | |
# I don't know what it is, two dollar...? # | 0:47:34 | 0:47:35 | |
His carnival sideshow man, | 0:47:35 | 0:47:38 | |
is not that different to his whisky preacher. | 0:47:38 | 0:47:41 | |
# See if you can come up with a figure | 0:47:41 | 0:47:43 | |
# That matches your faith... # | 0:47:43 | 0:47:45 | |
Frank's Wild Years, that record was actually... | 0:47:45 | 0:47:48 | |
It was like the huckster preacher. | 0:47:48 | 0:47:50 | |
It was a lot about hucksters, you know? Fakes, you know? | 0:47:50 | 0:47:52 | |
That's where he was coming from. | 0:47:52 | 0:47:54 | |
# And blast him out | 0:47:54 | 0:47:55 | |
# People, can I get an amen? | 0:47:55 | 0:47:58 | |
# All the Angels... # | 0:47:58 | 0:47:59 | |
Whether Tom Waits is trying to convince us that | 0:47:59 | 0:48:02 | |
he believes that he's going to hell if he doesn't be careful, | 0:48:02 | 0:48:06 | |
or whether there's a part of him that actually fears it, | 0:48:06 | 0:48:08 | |
in that performance, there's a fragility and a scaredness to it. | 0:48:08 | 0:48:14 | |
# Can I get a hallelujah? # | 0:48:14 | 0:48:16 | |
-CROWD: -Hallelujah! | 0:48:16 | 0:48:18 | |
There are a lot of preachers in my family. | 0:48:18 | 0:48:21 | |
Preachers and teachers. | 0:48:21 | 0:48:23 | |
My family was a little disappointed when they found out I was | 0:48:23 | 0:48:26 | |
going to be neither. They were a little like, | 0:48:26 | 0:48:28 | |
"Oh, man, we aren't things be able to help you then." | 0:48:28 | 0:48:31 | |
# I'm moving out west where the wind blows tall... # | 0:48:39 | 0:48:44 | |
By the time Waits gets to Bone Machine - just think of that | 0:48:44 | 0:48:46 | |
as a title, Bone Machine - I mean, what is it? | 0:48:46 | 0:48:49 | |
It's human beings. Or animals. | 0:48:49 | 0:48:52 | |
It's life, but stripped to its absolute bare minimum. | 0:48:52 | 0:48:55 | |
It kind of takes away everything we think of as being human. | 0:48:55 | 0:48:58 | |
There's no soul. | 0:48:58 | 0:48:59 | |
There's no fun, there's no anything, it's just a machine. | 0:48:59 | 0:49:02 | |
# I'm going to do what I want | 0:49:02 | 0:49:03 | |
# And I'm gonna get paid | 0:49:03 | 0:49:06 | |
# Little brown sausages, lying in the sand... # | 0:49:06 | 0:49:09 | |
We were hanging around the same kitchen table where we'd been | 0:49:09 | 0:49:12 | |
listening to Closing Time and Blue Valentine and all the romantic, | 0:49:12 | 0:49:15 | |
balladeering stuff. | 0:49:15 | 0:49:17 | |
We were listening to all that when Bone Machine came out, | 0:49:17 | 0:49:20 | |
and it scared us all to death. | 0:49:20 | 0:49:23 | |
I think we perhaps listened it all the way through once, | 0:49:23 | 0:49:25 | |
and then were like, "Shall we put the romantic ones back on?" | 0:49:25 | 0:49:28 | |
# With my Olds '88 | 0:49:28 | 0:49:29 | |
# And the devil on a leash... # | 0:49:29 | 0:49:31 | |
When Mom heard the title Bone Machine, she said to me, | 0:49:31 | 0:49:34 | |
"Tom, why do you always have to degrade?" | 0:49:34 | 0:49:38 | |
I think after hearing that title, she was worried about my soul. | 0:49:38 | 0:49:42 | |
She said, "Don't forget, Tom, | 0:49:42 | 0:49:44 | |
"that the devil hates nothing more than a sane Christian." | 0:49:44 | 0:49:49 | |
That would also make a good song title. | 0:49:49 | 0:49:52 | |
# I don't lose my composure in a high-speed chase... # | 0:49:52 | 0:49:55 | |
Tom is obsessed with death. | 0:49:55 | 0:49:57 | |
There's always decay, the end of things, | 0:49:57 | 0:50:00 | |
and it's all pulling him down into the Earth. | 0:50:00 | 0:50:02 | |
It feels like it's been recorded outside, | 0:50:05 | 0:50:07 | |
using the skulls of dead animals. | 0:50:07 | 0:50:09 | |
In the middle of the woods somewhere. | 0:50:09 | 0:50:11 | |
And he's gone completely insane. | 0:50:11 | 0:50:13 | |
# I don't need no make-up... # | 0:50:13 | 0:50:15 | |
We all just hit a bunch of sticks in a parking lot. | 0:50:15 | 0:50:19 | |
And I was like, "man, this is just the greatest experience ever", | 0:50:19 | 0:50:22 | |
you know? | 0:50:22 | 0:50:24 | |
Would you care for an hors d'oeuvre, Dr Seward? | 0:50:27 | 0:50:30 | |
Or a canape? | 0:50:30 | 0:50:32 | |
No thank you, Mr Renfield. | 0:50:32 | 0:50:34 | |
It's interesting that Bone Machine came out in the same year | 0:50:34 | 0:50:37 | |
that he played Renfield in Dracula. | 0:50:37 | 0:50:39 | |
I just didn't get it initially, | 0:50:39 | 0:50:41 | |
but when I thought about the character he was playing, | 0:50:41 | 0:50:44 | |
stuck in a jail, feeling controlled, again, like a freak. | 0:50:44 | 0:50:48 | |
The master will come. | 0:50:48 | 0:50:51 | |
And he's promised to make me immortal. | 0:50:51 | 0:50:55 | |
How?! | 0:50:55 | 0:50:56 | |
There's something very stylised and very circus-like and kind of | 0:50:57 | 0:51:01 | |
cabaret-like about the way he plays Renfield. | 0:51:01 | 0:51:04 | |
It felt totally congruent with everything else he was doing. | 0:51:04 | 0:51:07 | |
Here's looking at you, babe. | 0:51:07 | 0:51:09 | |
# I don't go to church on Sunday | 0:51:13 | 0:51:18 | |
# I don't get down on my knees to pray... # | 0:51:18 | 0:51:21 | |
Tom started playing more country-blues, I call it. | 0:51:21 | 0:51:26 | |
It's a very spooky... | 0:51:26 | 0:51:29 | |
Another Tom Waits thing where you just feel like you're there. | 0:51:29 | 0:51:32 | |
Like, man, I can feel I'm a guy in the Mississippi somewhere, | 0:51:32 | 0:51:36 | |
as opposed to some really blues posers, | 0:51:36 | 0:51:38 | |
that you don't feel it at all. | 0:51:38 | 0:51:40 | |
# I fall down on my knees every Sunday | 0:51:40 | 0:51:44 | |
# At Zerelda Lee's candy store | 0:51:44 | 0:51:48 | |
# And it's got to be a chocolate Jesus | 0:51:48 | 0:51:53 | |
# Make me feel so good inside | 0:51:54 | 0:51:58 | |
# It's got to be... # | 0:51:58 | 0:52:00 | |
I think he gets to the heart and the essence of blues | 0:52:00 | 0:52:02 | |
with Mule Variations. | 0:52:02 | 0:52:04 | |
It's got something that really feels like it's reaching back into time, | 0:52:04 | 0:52:09 | |
and finding something that's so different. | 0:52:09 | 0:52:13 | |
And yet, is totally him. | 0:52:13 | 0:52:16 | |
It's his identity within all that. | 0:52:16 | 0:52:19 | |
# I say only, only a chocolate Jesus | 0:52:19 | 0:52:24 | |
# Could ever satisfy my soul | 0:52:24 | 0:52:28 | |
# Wah! # | 0:52:28 | 0:52:29 | |
There's definitely a Southern Gothic connection with Tom's music. | 0:52:29 | 0:52:33 | |
Whether you grow up in San Diego, California | 0:52:35 | 0:52:38 | |
or Jackson, Mississippi | 0:52:38 | 0:52:40 | |
or whether you grow up in a ghetto or a middle-class suburb, | 0:52:40 | 0:52:45 | |
it's all about your perception. | 0:52:45 | 0:52:47 | |
How you view the world. | 0:52:47 | 0:52:50 | |
I mean, that's what makes a good artist. | 0:52:50 | 0:52:52 | |
Let's dance. | 0:52:58 | 0:53:00 | |
When it came to doing The Imaginarium Of Dr Parnassus, | 0:53:11 | 0:53:14 | |
and we had the devil himself, | 0:53:14 | 0:53:16 | |
and I couldn't think of anyone better than Tom. | 0:53:16 | 0:53:19 | |
Especially because of his voice. | 0:53:19 | 0:53:21 | |
-GRAVELLY: -I mean, I just love that voice, | 0:53:21 | 0:53:24 | |
to be able to talk like Tom is really a joy. | 0:53:24 | 0:53:27 | |
Can I offer you a stick of gum, or a breath mint? | 0:53:27 | 0:53:32 | |
It's the theatre of the thing, for him. | 0:53:32 | 0:53:34 | |
He's a grand illusionist, and always has been. | 0:53:34 | 0:53:37 | |
Damn! | 0:53:37 | 0:53:38 | |
I've won. | 0:53:40 | 0:53:42 | |
# I had a good home and I left | 0:53:42 | 0:53:44 | |
# Right, left | 0:53:44 | 0:53:46 | |
# That big fucking bomb made me deaf, deaf | 0:53:46 | 0:53:51 | |
# A Humvee mechanic put his Kevlar on wrong | 0:53:51 | 0:53:54 | |
# I guarantee you'll meet up with a suicide bomb | 0:53:54 | 0:53:57 | |
# Listen to the general, every goddamn word | 0:53:57 | 0:54:00 | |
# How many ways can you polish up a turd...? # | 0:54:00 | 0:54:03 | |
These are my feelings. | 0:54:03 | 0:54:04 | |
You know, I'm just trying to imagine | 0:54:04 | 0:54:06 | |
that it's a soldier writing home from any war. | 0:54:06 | 0:54:08 | |
I mean, as soon as you're at war, you've lost. | 0:54:08 | 0:54:11 | |
We're killing off our children, we're sending our children to war. | 0:54:11 | 0:54:14 | |
They're sending their children to war. | 0:54:14 | 0:54:17 | |
# How was it that the only ones responsible for making this mess | 0:54:17 | 0:54:21 | |
# Got their sorry asses stapled to a goddamn desk? | 0:54:23 | 0:54:26 | |
# And hell broke luce... # | 0:54:26 | 0:54:28 | |
He's genuinely concerned about where the world is going. | 0:54:28 | 0:54:32 | |
I mean, he's a man who loves everything, | 0:54:32 | 0:54:35 | |
and he knows there's damnation and doom waiting. | 0:54:35 | 0:54:39 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:54:39 | 0:54:40 | |
It's a great honour to induct Tom Waits | 0:54:40 | 0:54:42 | |
into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. | 0:54:42 | 0:54:44 | |
You know, songs are really just very interesting things | 0:54:51 | 0:54:56 | |
to be doing with the air. | 0:54:56 | 0:54:57 | |
And they say that I have no hits, | 0:54:58 | 0:55:01 | |
and that I'm difficult to work with. | 0:55:01 | 0:55:04 | |
And they say that like it's a bad thing. | 0:55:04 | 0:55:07 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:55:07 | 0:55:09 | |
# Well, when I'm lying in my bed at night | 0:55:19 | 0:55:22 | |
# I don't wanna grow up... # | 0:55:22 | 0:55:24 | |
It's a really odd career path, the way he's done it. | 0:55:24 | 0:55:28 | |
He wrote the simplest ballads in the most recognisable form, | 0:55:28 | 0:55:32 | |
right at the beginning. | 0:55:32 | 0:55:34 | |
And he excelled at it. | 0:55:34 | 0:55:35 | |
And then he starts exploring. | 0:55:36 | 0:55:38 | |
And then he starts looking for a different voice. | 0:55:38 | 0:55:40 | |
# And when I see the price that you pay | 0:55:40 | 0:55:44 | |
# I don't wanna grow up... # | 0:55:44 | 0:55:46 | |
It's a dark vision, | 0:55:46 | 0:55:47 | |
but it's an ennobling spirit that permeates all these characters. | 0:55:47 | 0:55:53 | |
He gives them all a chance to say, "Well, I did it my way", you know? | 0:55:53 | 0:55:59 | |
# I don't want to have to learn to count...# | 0:56:01 | 0:56:03 | |
It doesn't matter whether he's singing about | 0:56:03 | 0:56:05 | |
the darkest stuff happening in the world. | 0:56:05 | 0:56:07 | |
But the actual sense of showmanship and the sense of | 0:56:07 | 0:56:10 | |
theatre and musicianship means that you can't help smiling or grinning. | 0:56:10 | 0:56:15 | |
You've got to give in and say, I'm happy to live in Tom Waits' world. | 0:56:15 | 0:56:18 | |
# I been thinking all night | 0:56:18 | 0:56:20 | |
# And I don't wanna grow up... # | 0:56:20 | 0:56:22 | |
It's rather mystifying, when you think about songs, | 0:56:22 | 0:56:25 | |
where they come from. You don't really go to songwriting school. | 0:56:25 | 0:56:28 | |
You learn by listening to tunes. | 0:56:28 | 0:56:31 | |
And then you try to understand them and take them apart and see | 0:56:31 | 0:56:35 | |
what they're made of, and you wonder if you can make one too. | 0:56:35 | 0:56:38 | |
# Comb their hair and shine their shoes | 0:56:38 | 0:56:42 | |
# I don't wanna grow up... # | 0:56:42 | 0:56:45 | |
I can't get into his brain, but I'm just glad I was a part of it. | 0:56:45 | 0:56:47 | |
Just be in a room with all that stuff. | 0:56:47 | 0:56:49 | |
# I don't wanna grow up... # | 0:56:49 | 0:56:54 | |
Looks like the press conference is about to begin. | 0:56:54 | 0:56:58 | |
He's a complete outsider, and he was faithful to himself. | 0:56:58 | 0:57:03 | |
Calm down, calm down, hold your horses. | 0:57:03 | 0:57:05 | |
The more he delves into himself as an artist, | 0:57:05 | 0:57:07 | |
the less he cares what other people think. | 0:57:07 | 0:57:10 | |
And when we're all lost, what do we do? | 0:57:10 | 0:57:13 | |
We look up to the night sky. | 0:57:13 | 0:57:16 | |
If you're going to go after who is Tom Waits within all these | 0:57:16 | 0:57:19 | |
characters that he conjures for us, he's all of them. | 0:57:19 | 0:57:22 | |
Are there any more questions? | 0:57:22 | 0:57:23 | |
I want to know what he's going to do next, is all I want to know. | 0:57:23 | 0:57:27 | |
"What's he doing in there?" | 0:57:27 | 0:57:29 | |
"Come on, Tom, come out. Don't go into that barn, Tom!" | 0:57:31 | 0:57:35 | |
# I don't wanna grow up. # | 0:57:35 | 0:57:38 | |
CLAMOUR OF A FULL ROOM | 0:57:38 | 0:57:41 | |
CLAMOUR STOPS | 0:57:41 | 0:57:44 | |
Thank you. | 0:57:44 | 0:57:46 | |
Say hi to your mother. | 0:57:46 | 0:57:47 | |
# You got to lie to me, baby | 0:57:49 | 0:57:52 | |
# You got to lie to me, baby | 0:57:52 | 0:57:54 | |
# Lie to me, baby | 0:57:54 | 0:57:57 | |
# Lie to me, baby, move on | 0:57:57 | 0:58:00 | |
# You've got to lie to me, baby | 0:58:00 | 0:58:03 | |
# You have to lie to me, baby | 0:58:03 | 0:58:05 | |
# You've got to lie to me, baby | 0:58:05 | 0:58:08 | |
# Lie to me, baby, move on | 0:58:08 | 0:58:11 | |
# You have to lie to me, baby | 0:58:11 | 0:58:14 | |
# Lie to me, then move on | 0:58:14 | 0:58:16 | |
# Lie to me, baby, move on. # | 0:58:16 | 0:58:18 |