How the West Was Won How the Brits Rocked America: Go West


How the West Was Won

How British groups were astounded by pizza, skyscrapers and real cowboys while America fell in love with a curious blend of swinging London and ye olde England.


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America - the promised land for British youth in the '60s.

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I mean, America's the Holy Grail. For music, for us.

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It wasn't...Slovenia.

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From 1964 onwards, a group of British pioneers would get in their covered wagons and go west.

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# I wanna hold your hand... #

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It was such a thrill to actually go to play in America

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and do a little bit of research,

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blues clubs, things like that, it was just...like heaven.

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The British Invasion would export a new brand of youth to the States.

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The Beatles.

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The Animals.

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The Who.

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Whoosh!

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The Hollies. Ooh!

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And that's just a few.

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Made Bob Dylan and Elvis a bit shaky.

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This is how the Brits rocked America in the '60s.

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# I can't hide

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# Yeah you got that something

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# I think you'll understand

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# When I say that something

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# I want to hold your hand... #

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MUSIC: "Back In The USA" by Chuck Berry

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In the 1950s, we were living in a new world order.

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# Oh well oh well I feel so good today... #

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The sun had set on the British Empire,

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whilst our American saviours had become the dominant world power.

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# Jet propelled back home from overseas to the USA

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# New York, Los Angeles Oh how I yearn for you... #

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We were poor and they were rich,

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and as we couldn't afford the air fare, American rock'n'roll was one of the key portals

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through which we could explore this exciting new world.

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We heard those Chuck Berry records when we were at school.

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He'd tell these stories, Back In The USA, where he's talking about a hamburger sizzling

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night and day, we really didn't have hamburgers over here at that time.

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# Did I miss the skyscrapers? Did I miss the long freeway?

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# Uh huh huh, oh yeah

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# From the coast of California to the shores of the Delaware Bay... #

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The whole lifestyle that he was putting forward,

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and the enthusiasm, the drive of his music...

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It built up this wonderful picture

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of this Mecca, if you like, of music.

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And attitude and freedom.

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And whether it was or wasn't, this is what we all believed.

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# Looking hard for a drive-in, searching for a corner cafe... #

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It was just absolute magic.

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# Where hamburgers sizzle on an open grill night and day... #

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However, by 1963, American rock'n'roll actually looked like this.

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# Now I love a girl and Ruby is her name

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# Hear me talking... #

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It was teenagers writing for a teenage market.

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# What I say, whoah oh, Ruby, Ruby

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# How I want ya

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# Like a ghost I'm-a gonna haunt ya

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# Ruby, Ruby, Ruby will you be mine? #

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There were many of us solo American singers,

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Bobby Rydell, Frankie Avalon, Fabian,

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it was rock'n'roll, but mine was I think more special material.

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-# January

-You start the year off fine

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-# February

-You're my little Valentine

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-# March

-I'm gonna march you down the aisle... #

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American pop had ground to a halt.

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The original energy and thrill of rock'n'roll had dissipated

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and had been replaced by an ersatz replica.

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It was a perfectly safe, grown-up soundtrack

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for the Mad Men era.

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The kind of classic rock'n'roll guys,

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Jerry Lee Lewis and Little Richard and even Elvis to a degree,

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had kind of been swept aside.

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Elvis had gone into the Army and become safe.

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Chuck Berry had been arrested,

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Jerry Lee Lewis had this scandal with his younger cousin.

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They'd been sidelined and music had become a lot safer.

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American pop was self-absorbed.

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Short-lived trends like preppy surf music

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meant all eyes were on the West Coast.

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Nobody so much as thought of looking east, towards the old country.

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There was no sense that these bands or musicians

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were going to be around for a long time and be artists.

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You're just ready for the next thing all the time

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and the next thing was always America.

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# Everybody's gone surfin'

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# Surfing USA

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# Everybody's gone surfin'

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# Surfing USA. #

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Whether it was going to be the Beach boys,

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having some hits in the early '60s and introducing a new sound.

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The idea that someone would come from England and enrich rock'n'roll

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was just...

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it was literally inconceivable.

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You couldn't formulate that idea. There was no basis for it.

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So on February 7th 1964,

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Britain's hottest rock'n'roll act would set off for America

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with modest expectations.

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How could a band from the crumbling, grey old country,

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hope to have any effect,

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on what to the Beatles, was the capital of their world?

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America, it's where it all came from.

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It's like blues, rock'n'roll, Elvis, the whole thing.

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Before that even, the Fred Astaire thing,

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it's always been coming out of America.

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First memory was getting off the plane

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in New York to a screaming mob that we didn't expect.

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What had happened was we'd heard about it on the plane.

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The pilot had radioed and said, "It's crazy here."

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The journalists heard about that and they said, "It's crazy there."

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That's good.

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We got off the plane, waving. It indeed was crazy.

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The Beatles' ecstatic welcome

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had been preceded by I Want To Hold Your Hand,

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which had topped the US chart a few weeks prior.

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With their cheek and lack of deference

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to the patriarchal American media,

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the Beatles seemed to be from another planet.

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There's a question, would you be quiet, please?

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-Would you please sing something?

-No.

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-Sorry.

-Next question.

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-But you can sing.

-No, we need money first.

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-Are you going to get a haircut?

-No.

-I had one yesterday.

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My brother and I were just in a studio.

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The telephone rings, I pick it up.

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Grenada Television is on the other line

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asking if I'd be interested in making a film of the Beatles.

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They'll be arriving in two hours.

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I turned to my brother and said,

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"Who're the Beatles? Are they any good?"

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# How could I dance with another?

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# Oooh When I saw her standing there. #

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I had a producer on board,

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so we had no difficulty at all in meeting the Beatles

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and being with them day and night for a whole week.

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# I fall in love with her

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# She wouldn't dance with another... #

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We loved it.

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New York, baby.

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We were in the back of a car and we'd have a little tranny radio

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and you'd hear WINS.

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"Here we are, the Beatles are coming..."

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We'd go, "We're on the radio!"

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We're on the radio. Look at the big buildings.

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It's New York and they're talking about us on the radio.

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'Tomorrow night from 7 to 8... '

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We used to phone in the radio stations and they loved it.

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"I've got a Beatle on the line."

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Murray the K was one of the guys who kind of adopted us.

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I want to tell everybody, this is the Beatles station.

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They're telling us what to play.

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I've got more one-week of this

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and I'm going to become the fifth Beatle, baby. All right?

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OK, this is Paul McCartney, on WINS,

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and it's Marvin Gaye, singing, Pride and Joy.

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Yeah, baby, you got it.

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America was still stuck in the '50s,

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but in the UK,

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a Beatle-led youth revolution was in full swing by 1964.

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American kids were a year behind

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and they marvelled at these strange-looking Brits.

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The Beatles were equally shocked by the state of American youth.

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We felt it was a little bit backward.

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It hadn't had the youth revolution that we'd had in the UK

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and in Europe.

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I remember talking to fans and things and asking them questions.

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What about your boyfriend? And stuff.

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He'd be the guy with the flat top, the football playing guy,

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those kind of very old-fashioned values.

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It was like, oh, he's still like that, is he? OK.

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We didn't mind it.

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It just seemed a bit old-fashioned.

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They had a bit of catching up to do.

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Here were American girls going wild for distinctly un-macho Brits,

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an unprecedented threat to American manhood across the land.

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I think what the Beatles brought to America was an awakening

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that was a long time coming.

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We weren't expecting women in 1964

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to be expressing themselves emotionally like that in public,

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to be showing themselves as frenetic and hysterical and sexual.

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You didn't get that.

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Now that you've seen the Beatles, what do you think?

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They're unbelievable.

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I've never seen anything like it in my life.

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We were some exotic beast to them.

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Nobody had ever seen people with their hair all down like that

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and all the gear and the clothes and the mod look, you know?

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They were a little bit in the dark ages about all of that.

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We were very unusual.

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Ladies and gentlemen, the Beatles.

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SCREAMING

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Then we went on the Ed Sullivan Show

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and that really kicked it over the edge.

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# Close your eyes and I'll kiss you

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# Tomorrow I'll miss you

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# Remember I'll always be true

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# And then while I'm away

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# I'll write home every day

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# And I'll send all my loving to you... #

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70 million people saw that show.

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It's a lot of attention for 20-year-old kids.

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The Beatles came on the Ed Sullivan Show,

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and it was the most exciting thing in the whole world.

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All New York City went nuts for it.

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# All my loving I will send to you... #

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It wasn't just New York.

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The Beatles were beamed into living rooms across the nation,

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at a time when the power of television

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had just come into its own.

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It was right after the Kennedy assassination

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and the Beatles were the next media phenomenon.

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Not to diminish what the Kennedy assassination meant here,

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because it was just devastating.

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It also was one of the first big television moments.

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Everybody was watching the funeral

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and that sense that television was the primary means

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by which information was coming to you,

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was really very much solidified right at that moment.

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Right on the heels of that experience

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at this incredible American depression, come the Beatles.

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America's young prince was gone,

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now here were four pretenders at the gates of Camelot.

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The American competition was simply re-cast in a supporting role.

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There's four of them, they're all gifted, talented, gorgeous,

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what can you say?

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They're the Beatles.

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I found it very funny that we'd be booed all the time,

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because people of course would want the Beatles.

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I just loved every minute of it.

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I liked playing Monopoly with George Harrison. Who wouldn't?

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We had a couple of pillow fights on the plane.

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# Roll over Beethoven

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# And tell Tchaikovsky the news... #

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The Beatles gave America back their music

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because I think we had overlooked so many of the great blues artists,

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so many of the great people that we've all learned from

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and I think we had forgotten the basics

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and they gave that back to us.

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# Well if you're feeling like it

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# Get your lover And reel and rock it

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# Roll it over and move on up

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# Go for cover And reel and rock it... #

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We just loved American music so much that we wanted to play it.

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So we would take something like Twist And Shout by the Isley Brothers

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that we just loved as a record and we had to do it.

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When we went live, that was a great song to do.

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We kind of made it our own.

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# Shake it up baby now

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# Shake it up baby

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# Twist and shout

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# Twist and shout

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# Come on... #

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The Beatles were plugged into that early energy of rock'n'roll.

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I remember Jerry Lee Lewis in an interview saying the Beatles

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swept away all of these guys who had cute names who were making

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rock'n'roll in the US at that time.

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Bobby Benton, Bobby Denton...

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nothing but Bobby's on the radio.

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Thank God for the Beatles.

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They showed 'em a trick.

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Cut 'em down like wheat before the sickle.

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Whilst young America had been slow out of the blocks,

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they were now keen to make up lost ground.

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In conquering the USA, the Beatles kicked down the door,

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and in behind them poured an invasion of British bands.

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It looked good, I guess, on film,

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but it was a disaster.

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ARCHIVE RECORDING: Here they are, The Animals,

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Britain's hottest new rock'n'roll export.

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Their New York arrival runs into a ban on any tumultuous airport reception.

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The Beatles had been there and done it.

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The Port Authority were really tired because of the expense.

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So when we landed, there was nobody there.

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The ride from the airport, over the many bridges

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and streets of New York, there was nobody.

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There was just each one of us in a Mustang with a girl

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dressed up in a silly bunny costume

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with fishnet stockings, I remember that.

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# She's not there

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# Well let me tell you

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# 'bout the way she looked

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# The way she... #

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New York laid on a proper welcome for other British invaders

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such as The Zombies.

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My parents had packed me a packed lunch to take on the plane...

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It was a long time ago.

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It was a bigger world in those days, wasn't it?

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# Nobody told me about her

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# What could I do...? #

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When we got off the plane, there were hundreds of people,

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I don't know, maybe thousands, and we did that old thing

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of looking over our shoulders to see...

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Who was on the plane!

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And it was us.

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Well, it was further away then.

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It's hard to imagine now that people go back and forth a lot,

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but a trip to America then was still a big deal.

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The first time we went to New York,

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big, huge, beautiful Cadillac limousines,

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screaming girls trying to tear your clothes off.

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It was excellent.

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I recommend it highly. It was fun.

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With so many people, so many fans in the terminal waiting

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for Herman's Hermits, with signs,

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causing all kinds of commotion,

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they couldn't bring the plane into the terminal.

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So they parked it on the field and these old businessmen...

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Remember, there were no women flying in those days.

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So we're on this plane with these older men who were not really

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that happy to be messed around, as they took our plane and the police cars came to get us...

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"Good. They've been arrested." The police were our escorts.

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# As far as I can tell I'm her kind of guy... #

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For a generation that had grown up in bombed-out Britain,

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their first experience of New York City would be beyond their wildest dreams.

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# Something tells me I'm into something good... #

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It was an unbelievable shock, being taken to a midtown Manhattan hotel

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and everybody saying, "Have a nice day."

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And, "We love your accent."

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Looking down and seeing all these...

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They looked like boats to me, the cars.

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They were just silly. It was just like Walt Disney come alive.

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# Start spreading the news

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# I'm leaving today... #

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You've only got to go to New York and you're impressed with everything

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because it's so big and vast,

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skyscrapers.

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# New York, New York... #

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I remember the first time we got to New York

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and I had seen it on the movies,

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the grids in the road, steam coming out of them.

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I thought, what is that? We don't have that in England.

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# The very heart of it

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# New York, New York

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# I want to wake up

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# In a city... #

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I'd never heard of pizza before I got to America.

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I was looking... "What's piz-er?"

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(AMERICAN ACCENT) "Hey, man. We eat it all the time here. Pizza, man.

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"We're going to get you some." Of course, it was brilliant.

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Loved it, pizza.

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Long before sex and drugs, there was food...

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an eye-opener to a generation raised on rationing.

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I was hungry one day and we'd just gotten in

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and our stage manager said, "What do you want?"

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I said, "Well, we don't have time to go out."

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"No, we'll just have it brought in."

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"Brought in?! What do you mean?"

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"You can order anything you want and just have it delivered right here."

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Wow! What a concept.

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# Great fried potato yeah... #

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You would sit down, whether it was a diner or a posh restaurant,

0:21:220:21:27

you would be handed the menu and a glass of iced water.

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Then you'd get a salad first

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and you had to eat your salad before your proper food arrived.

0:21:320:21:36

-Burger, steak or chicken, that was your meal...

-With fries.

0:21:490:21:53

..with fries or baked potato with prime rib.

0:21:530:21:57

I particularly like prime rib. They were very good with beef.

0:21:570:22:00

# Mashed potato

0:22:030:22:04

# Yeah, yeah, yeah... #

0:22:040:22:06

-I noticed that a lot of the ladies had larger backsides than our ladies.

-They still have.

0:22:060:22:11

Wide-eyed, the Brits poured into New York throughout the mid-'60s,

0:22:140:22:18

and those with Bohemian interests

0:22:180:22:21

sought out the city's famous artistic side.

0:22:210:22:24

When I was in New York, I guess, Ginsberg took me down

0:22:260:22:30

to the factory...

0:22:300:22:32

Warhol's silver pillow period

0:22:320:22:34

and he was making movies.

0:22:340:22:36

I went out on one of the "attack New York with Super-8 camera" trips,

0:22:370:22:42

where he sent out girls into the city,

0:22:420:22:45

and I think one party we arrived at, we met Dali.

0:22:450:22:48

Around that time, I would go off down Greenwich Village.

0:22:510:22:54

There were lots of jazz clubs down there. I would sit like here,

0:22:540:22:57

Miles Davis would be playing there, Charlie Mingus a few yards away. He'd buy a beer

0:22:570:23:02

and watch these greats. I saw them all.

0:23:020:23:05

There was one particular thing, a very famous bar called the Metropole,

0:23:050:23:10

and I remember going in there that first time, 1965,

0:23:100:23:13

and one of the great drum idols was playing drums behind the bar

0:23:130:23:17

on a long stage.

0:23:170:23:19

And it was Gene Krupa.

0:23:190:23:21

I thought, wow! You were experiencing the real America.

0:23:260:23:30

In 1964 and '65, British music would virtually

0:23:320:23:36

own the American charts.

0:23:360:23:39

At one point in April '64, the Beatles held all top five positions

0:23:390:23:42

on the Billboard Top 100.

0:23:420:23:44

Hot on their heels were the Dave Clark Five who were booked

0:23:440:23:48

on the Ed Sullivan show an unprecedented 18 times.

0:23:480:23:51

From Gerry and the Pacemakers to Freddie and the Dreamers,

0:23:510:23:55

it seemed you only had to speak in an English accent to have a hit in the States.

0:23:550:24:00

Somebody at some point thought that all people who were English

0:24:030:24:07

were multifaceted entertainers.

0:24:070:24:09

So we would see these buses stopping in a transport cafe

0:24:090:24:13

and there'd be people on the other bus that would be like,

0:24:130:24:16

James Brown and the Famous Flames, The Zombies and direct from England, The Hullabaloos.

0:24:160:24:21

They weren't known in England. I'd go, "Who's The Hullabaloos?" "We're The Hullabaloos."

0:24:210:24:26

"Where are you from?" "Hull." "You've never had a hit in England."

0:24:260:24:29

"Yeah, I know, but we were over here..."

0:24:290:24:32

So anything that was English would go.

0:24:320:24:34

# Birds sing out of tune

0:24:340:24:37

# And rain clouds hide the moon

0:24:370:24:40

# I'm OK

0:24:400:24:42

# Here I'll stay

0:24:420:24:44

# With my loneliness

0:24:440:24:46

# I don't care what they say

0:24:480:24:50

# I won't stay in a world without love... #

0:24:500:24:53

It was the foppish appearance and carefree attitude

0:24:530:24:56

of these young Brits that fascinated America...

0:24:560:24:59

# I will see my true love smile... #

0:24:590:25:02

..such as Peter and Gordon,

0:25:020:25:04

the second British invasion act to top the charts.

0:25:040:25:07

# When she does I lose So baby until then

0:25:070:25:10

# Lock me away

0:25:100:25:13

# And don't allow the day

0:25:130:25:16

# Here inside

0:25:160:25:18

# Where I hide

0:25:180:25:20

# With my loneliness... #

0:25:200:25:21

It was a funny era because Beatle, or Beed-le as it was in America,

0:25:210:25:25

almost became a collective, a sort of generic term.

0:25:250:25:30

If you had long hair... I remember getting into a lift

0:25:300:25:33

and some kid going, "Are you a Beatle?"

0:25:330:25:35

It didn't actually mean he thought I was a member of the Beatles,

0:25:350:25:38

the band, it was sort of, "Are you part of that?"

0:25:380:25:41

The answer was yes, because they all had crew-cuts.

0:25:410:25:44

The youthful revolution that had swept through Britain,

0:25:470:25:51

transforming attitudes to sex, authority and ambition,

0:25:510:25:55

had simply not happened in the USA.

0:25:550:25:57

So it was up to us to make America groovy.

0:25:570:26:01

It was, did you know the Queen? Or, hey, you guys look weird.

0:26:030:26:09

Yes. You're weird.

0:26:090:26:11

They'd all have Ivy League suits on.

0:26:110:26:14

That was the first time. The second time you go, they'd loosen up a bit.

0:26:140:26:17

The third time, when flower power arrived, they all looked like Jesus Christ.

0:26:170:26:22

# When rain has hung the leaves with tears

0:26:220:26:26

# I want you near

0:26:260:26:28

# To kill my fears... #

0:26:280:26:31

So this is a new country, only 300 years old, or 400 years old,

0:26:310:26:36

and so it was full of wonder for Europe

0:26:360:26:40

and I suppose I stepped onto the pavement

0:26:400:26:42

as if I'd stepped off a spaceship from another planet.

0:26:420:26:46

# I may as well try

0:26:460:26:49

# And catch the wind... #

0:26:490:26:52

America loved me and others like my pals, as well.

0:26:580:27:02

# I may as well

0:27:020:27:04

# Try and catch the wind. #

0:27:040:27:07

Not everybody loved the new guys in town,

0:27:120:27:14

especially the American establishment.

0:27:140:27:18

I remember at airports, with our slightly long hair

0:27:210:27:25

there would be American businessmen with Samsonite cases

0:27:250:27:29

turning round and literally...

0:27:290:27:31

Very rude and people spat at us and things occasionally.

0:27:310:27:35

They didn't let us into Disneyland,

0:27:350:27:37

that was the same year as Khrushchev wasn't let into Disneyland,

0:27:370:27:40

because we had slightly long hair and didn't look like them.

0:27:400:27:43

Relative latecomers to the British invasion were the Rolling Stones.

0:27:490:27:55

Their career in America didn't really take off until 1965.

0:27:550:27:59

But as had happened in Britain, their mere presence in the USA

0:27:590:28:02

was enough to infuriate the old guard.

0:28:020:28:04

The Beatles were kind of wimpy compared to the Rolling Stones.

0:28:070:28:10

The Rolling Stones, when they came to America, they were known as the ugliest band from England.

0:28:100:28:15

What do you say to a thing like that? Yes, I suppose.

0:28:150:28:19

That was scary. It was cool.

0:28:190:28:22

# Time is on my side

0:28:230:28:27

# Yes it is... #

0:28:270:28:30

I remember the first time the Rolling Stones were on The Ed Sullivan Show,

0:28:300:28:33

Mick Jagger came out wearing a sweatshirt

0:28:330:28:37

and, I mean, every single one of my teachers the next day

0:28:370:28:41

was lecturing about how awful the Rolling Stones were.

0:28:410:28:44

# You come running back

0:28:440:28:46

# To me... #

0:28:460:28:50

If the invaders found the metropolitan youth of New York

0:28:510:28:55

a little backwards, they were in for a real shock

0:28:550:28:57

when they took their music into the American interior.

0:28:570:29:00

There they would find the land of their childhood screen idols.

0:29:000:29:04

Way out west, a lot of the people still dressed in cowboy outfits.

0:29:050:29:10

You know, Oklahoma, Wyoming,

0:29:100:29:13

the men would walk round in Stetsons and cowboy shirts

0:29:130:29:17

and cowboy boots...

0:29:170:29:18

Cowboy influence was still there.

0:29:180:29:20

It was literally, "Wow, this place is fantastic. I want to stay here."

0:29:200:29:26

It's absolutely brilliant.

0:29:260:29:28

# I saw her today

0:29:280:29:30

# I saw her face

0:29:300:29:31

# It was a face I loved

0:29:310:29:33

# And I knew

0:29:330:29:35

# I had to run away

0:29:350:29:37

# And get down on my knees... #

0:29:370:29:39

I realised my dream.

0:29:390:29:41

I could go into a shop and buy a Colt 45.

0:29:410:29:45

# Needles and pins... #

0:29:460:29:50

You could do that in the '60s. Unbelievable.

0:29:500:29:52

# The tears I've got to hide... #

0:29:540:29:57

We went to Denver

0:30:020:30:03

and we did a gig in Denver. We rented a couple of station wagons

0:30:030:30:07

and we drove down, under a full moon, across the desert to New Mexico.

0:30:070:30:13

And the window was down in the back and it was a full moon,

0:30:160:30:20

and the desert was so light, you know,

0:30:200:30:23

it was day for night. It was like, "I'm in a movie.

0:30:230:30:28

"This is where I belong. I've always wanted to be in the movies.

0:30:280:30:31

"Well, just stay in the back of this car for the whole ride

0:30:310:30:35

"until it stops."

0:30:350:30:37

We were in Oklahoma doing a concert and the promoter said,

0:30:370:30:41

"What would you guys like to do?

0:30:410:30:43

"You've got a day off."

0:30:430:30:44

And straightaway I said, "Could we go horseriding?"

0:30:440:30:48

You know, like my dream to be a cowboy on a horse.

0:30:480:30:51

And I can remember getting up on the horse and thinking,

0:30:510:30:53

"Wow! This is high."

0:30:530:30:56

Like the pioneers in their covered wagons,

0:31:000:31:03

the Brits took their music deep into uncharted territory.

0:31:030:31:08

In the South they would discover

0:31:080:31:09

an America that they never knew existed.

0:31:090:31:13

We didn't realise that black Americans had their own separate life,

0:31:140:31:19

and that white Americans had their separate life.

0:31:190:31:21

They had separate radio stations,

0:31:210:31:23

they had separate restaurants, they had different parts of the bus.

0:31:230:31:27

They had different toilets.

0:31:270:31:28

You know, we were not used to that segregation.

0:31:280:31:32

I remember one particular night on the Dick Clark tour

0:31:320:31:35

walking into a restaurant, and Colin and I, both in a friendly way,

0:31:350:31:39

had our arm around two of The Velvelettes as we walked in.

0:31:390:31:43

And there was absolute stunned silence in this restaurant.

0:31:430:31:47

And the tour manager rushed up to us and said, "We have to get out now."

0:31:470:31:51

He said, "You're going to get us killed, you're going to get us shot.

0:31:510:31:55

Many of the British invaders toured the South

0:32:000:32:03

with popular black American acts.

0:32:030:32:05

Herman's Hermits were paired with Round Robin

0:32:050:32:08

and Little Anthony and the Imperials.

0:32:080:32:11

But we get to the South, Macon, Georgia,

0:32:120:32:16

and, you know, we're pretty naive

0:32:160:32:18

but we understand that there's a whole different vibe.

0:32:180:32:21

# Shimmy shimmy, coco pop, shimmy shimmy bop

0:32:210:32:25

# Shimmy shimmy, coco pop... #

0:32:250:32:26

And we find that, some nights, we can't hang out with Round Robin

0:32:260:32:29

because they won't let us in that hotel.

0:32:290:32:32

You can't go with Little Anthony and the Imperials,

0:32:320:32:34

our friends now, our best friends.

0:32:340:32:37

Wherever they go, we go, cos they know what's going on, right?

0:32:370:32:40

So we go on. We don't even look at the audience until we walk on stage.

0:32:400:32:44

And we walk out and it is 12,000, 100% black audience,

0:32:440:32:49

with their arms folded.

0:32:490:32:51

Like... "Who are they?"

0:32:520:32:55

For some reason, we got to them.

0:32:570:32:59

I think it was Mrs Brown You've Got A Lovely Daughter.

0:33:010:33:04

"Well, that's cute."

0:33:040:33:05

They never applauded or anything, but we got through the evening.

0:33:080:33:12

# But it's sad

0:33:120:33:15

# She doesn't love me now... #

0:33:150:33:19

The point is this. Even in 1965,

0:33:210:33:26

there was still segregation.

0:33:260:33:29

And I think it was illegal by that time, but we were still segregated.

0:33:290:33:32

And I remember, the bus would stop, you would go into these little convenience stores,

0:33:320:33:38

on sale there were Ku Klux Klan records. There was one called...

0:33:380:33:42

# Stand up and be counted

0:33:420:33:44

# And act just like a man Stand up and be counted

0:33:440:33:47

# And join the Ku Klux Klan. #

0:33:470:33:50

# We are a sacred brotherhood who love our country true

0:33:500:33:53

# We always can be counted on when there's a job to do. #

0:33:530:33:58

There were all these records openly on sale,

0:33:580:34:00

many of them were recorded by country music's top stars

0:34:000:34:04

and of course, the Confederate flag was everywhere.

0:34:040:34:09

These Brits experienced first-hand what America was like in the mid-'60s,

0:34:170:34:23

unlike most Americans, who harboured some quaint ideas

0:34:230:34:26

about life in Britain.

0:34:260:34:29

You really have to think about that time.

0:34:290:34:32

Only rich people travelled, for the most part.

0:34:320:34:35

America, as we well know, is a pretty isolated place,

0:34:350:34:39

it's not as if there's a tremendous sense of what the rest of the world is like here very often.

0:34:390:34:44

'If you want to talk about England, this is England.

0:34:440:34:47

'It's almost the same size as Wyoming.'

0:34:470:34:50

I remember as a kid thinking, "God, what am I doing in New York,

0:34:500:34:54

"in Greenwich Village where I grew up?

0:34:540:34:57

"If only I was in Liverpool!"

0:34:570:34:59

# Li-i-i-fe

0:34:590:35:03

# Goes on day after day

0:35:030:35:06

# Hearts torn in every way... #

0:35:080:35:15

They thought we were all from Liverpool. We'd go there and they'd go,

0:35:150:35:19

"What's Liverpool like?" I'd say, "Actually, I've never been there. By reputation, it's horrible.

0:35:190:35:24

"It's a horrible ugly port town and everyone I know, including the Beatles,

0:35:240:35:29

"got the hell out of there, soon as they could afford the train ticket."

0:35:290:35:32

Meanwhile of course, to Americans, Liverpool would become this magical zone

0:35:320:35:37

where all these English bands were from. Of course, we weren't.

0:35:370:35:40

In American minds, the image of Britain as one groovy little ol' place,

0:35:450:35:50

conflated with more misty-eyed notions of the old country.

0:35:500:35:55

On the one hand, they had this feeling that it was swinging London,

0:35:550:36:00

and it was the centre of everything in pop culture, which it was, it absolutely was.

0:36:000:36:05

At the same time, they couldn't divorce that in their minds

0:36:050:36:08

from this quaint image of how England ought to be,

0:36:080:36:12

and I think it's summed up in that record.

0:36:120:36:15

# England swings like a pendulum do

0:36:150:36:18

# Bobbies on bicycles two by two

0:36:180:36:21

# Westminster Abbey The tower of Big Ben

0:36:210:36:23

# The rosy red cheeks of the little children. #

0:36:230:36:27

What's that got to do with swinging London? It was a very bizarre mix

0:36:270:36:32

of... The one thing we found, immediately,

0:36:320:36:35

you only had to speak in an English accent and people would swoon, wouldn't they?

0:36:350:36:40

Unfortunately, that doesn't happen any more!

0:36:400:36:42

# England swings like a pendulum do

0:36:420:36:45

# Bobbies on bicycles two by two

0:36:450:36:48

# Westminster Abbey The tower of Big Ben

0:36:480:36:50

# And the rosy red cheeks of the little children. #

0:36:500:36:53

And you go, "It's like a commercial for Britain!

0:36:530:36:56

# You huff and puff and you finally save enough money

0:36:560:37:00

# To take your family on a trip across the sea

0:37:000:37:04

# Take a tip before you take a trip

0:37:040:37:06

# Let me tell you where to go Go to England, oh

0:37:060:37:09

# England swings like a pendulum do

0:37:090:37:12

# Bobbies on bicycles... #

0:37:120:37:14

But it was so sweet, so romantic. Americans are a very...

0:37:140:37:19

I don't want to sound condescending, a sweet, romantic race.

0:37:190:37:24

If you listen to it, it is a slightly quaint lyric.

0:37:240:37:28

-Very creaky record, actually.

-Sorry, Roger!

0:37:280:37:32

CHEERING

0:37:320:37:34

And it wasn't just Nashville crooners like Roger Miller who were cashing in.

0:37:340:37:39

Even the British invaders were happy to invoke ye olde England.

0:37:390:37:43

Even to this day, Americans think of the English as a bulldog- bites-man-in-the-bum,

0:37:450:37:50

and we all live in Tudor houses with bowler hats.

0:37:500:37:54

I mean, there was one or two excruciating moments, that we did actually pander to that.

0:37:540:37:59

We made it in a field somewhere outside of Windsor.

0:38:020:38:05

# For your love

0:38:050:38:07

# For your love... #

0:38:100:38:12

It was kind of fun, you know. it was fairly harmless.

0:38:120:38:15

# For your love

0:38:150:38:17

# I'd give the stars and the sun 'fore I live

0:38:170:38:20

# For your love

0:38:200:38:21

# To thrill you with delight I'll give you diamonds bright

0:38:210:38:24

# There'll be things that will excite... #

0:38:240:38:28

The Yardbirds also gave a guitarist who would one day conquer the US an American baptism.

0:38:280:38:33

At that time I was playing bass for the Yardbirds. It was such a thrill,

0:38:350:38:40

to actually go to play in America

0:38:400:38:43

and do a little bit of research,

0:38:430:38:46

go to blues clubs, things like that. It was just like heaven.

0:38:460:38:49

As Anglophilia swept the USA,

0:38:510:38:54

it was almost inevitable that imitation became the sincerest form of flattery.

0:38:540:38:59

There were American bands who tried to sound like

0:38:590:39:02

and look like the British bands.

0:39:020:39:04

Some... There's a fabulous record by The Knickerbockers called Lies,

0:39:040:39:07

you'd think was almost a Beatles record.

0:39:070:39:09

Yeah, baby, one of the greatest. With Lies,

0:39:090:39:13

welcome Buddy, John, Bo and Jimmy - The Knickerbockers.

0:39:130:39:17

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:39:170:39:18

# Lies lies Telling me that you'll be true

0:39:180:39:23

# Lies, lies

0:39:230:39:26

# That's all I ever get from you

0:39:260:39:30

# Tears, tears

0:39:300:39:33

# I shed a million tears for you... #

0:39:330:39:36

Sir Douglas Quintet...they used to dress

0:39:360:39:38

in what they thought was an English style. Groups did that.

0:39:380:39:41

I suppose people assume that Sir Douglas Quintet is from England,

0:39:410:39:45

but I have a surprise for you.

0:39:450:39:47

Believe it or not, these fellows are all from my home state of Texas.

0:39:470:39:51

They had She's About A Mover that sounded like She's A Woman. That was a big hit.

0:39:510:39:56

# Wow, yeah, what I say

0:39:560:39:59

# Heh heh

0:39:590:40:02

# She's about a mover

0:40:020:40:05

# She's about a mover

0:40:050:40:08

# She's about a mover

0:40:080:40:10

# She's about a mover... #

0:40:100:40:12

After a while I don't think you can tell who's listening to who.

0:40:140:40:17

You know, I think, it's obvious The Byrds' first record, they'd heard the Beatles.

0:40:170:40:22

# No use keeping you around

0:40:220:40:25

# If you don't want me all the way...#

0:40:250:40:28

In 1964, The Byrds were very much a Beatle clone band,

0:40:360:40:40

just for a minute.

0:40:400:40:41

We had black suits with velvet collars and I remember,

0:40:410:40:46

we had them at Zeros, the nightclub, and they were hanging on the rack.

0:40:460:40:50

We'd come back and put them on, and go home in jeans and T-shirts.

0:40:500:40:55

One night, we got to Zeros and they were gone.

0:40:550:40:57

When I met John Lennon, I told him. He said, "I wish they'd stolen our suits!"

0:40:570:41:01

# Here we come

0:41:030:41:05

# Walking down the street... #

0:41:050:41:08

But the ultimate American Beatles tribute hit TV screens in 1966.

0:41:080:41:13

# Hey hey we're The Monkees... #

0:41:140:41:16

It was a show about a band that wanted to be the Beatles...

0:41:160:41:21

And never made it, on the television show.

0:41:220:41:27

That's, I think, why it touched and connected with so many people.

0:41:270:41:31

Here was US television cashing in on the British invasion,

0:41:310:41:35

by manufacturing their very own band of cute characters.

0:41:350:41:39

# Take the last train to Clarksville and I'll meet you at the station

0:41:390:41:44

# You can be here by 4.30

0:41:440:41:47

# Cos I've made your reservation Don't be slow

0:41:470:41:51

# No, no, no... #

0:41:510:41:53

We had a poster of the Beatles on the wall and we'd throw darts at it.

0:41:530:41:57

It was about this band

0:41:570:42:00

that represented all those bands all over the world,

0:42:000:42:03

in their basements, in their garages, playing,

0:42:030:42:06

trying to become something like the Beatles.

0:42:060:42:10

# Warden threw a party at the county jail

0:42:100:42:13

# The prison band was there they began to wail

0:42:130:42:15

# The band was jumping...#

0:42:150:42:18

If an American went to Britain, he might hope to see the Queen.

0:42:180:42:21

When the British invaders went to America, they wanted to meet the King.

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Unfortunately, since the Brits had conquered all,

0:42:250:42:29

Elvis had left the building.

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We turned up at Elvis' house and knocked on the door, and said, "Is Elvis in?" No security.

0:42:320:42:38

We just walked up and said, "Is Elvis in?"

0:42:380:42:40

His father came to the door and said,

0:42:400:42:43

"Elvis would love to have seen you guys, he loves you. But he's away filming at the moment."

0:42:430:42:49

# I wonder if

0:42:490:42:52

# You're lonesome tonight... #

0:42:520:42:55

His father said, "Have a look around", and being...

0:42:550:42:58

We felt slightly strange about this... Did we actually go in the house?

0:42:580:43:02

We mainly walked round the grounds.

0:43:020:43:04

As you say, we never actually met him, we only knocked on his door.

0:43:090:43:13

He couldn't come out that day!

0:43:130:43:16

That's because Elvis was churning out movies in California.

0:43:170:43:21

I saw him around in Palm Springs,

0:43:230:43:26

especially at the local TV shop,

0:43:260:43:29

because he bought one of the early big screens, one of the early ones.

0:43:290:43:33

With the projection, and you had to be sitting right in the middle in order to see the image.

0:43:330:43:39

Of course, Elvis would always get centre seat

0:43:390:43:42

and the guys were always complaining because the football games would fade away at the edges,

0:43:420:43:47

so there was constant complaining and the guy who owns it going,

0:43:470:43:51

"It's just the way it comes, Elvis, that's the way it is."

0:43:510:43:54

It would be up to plucky Mancunian Peter Noone to get an audience with the King in Hawaii.

0:43:560:44:01

So I saw Colonel Parker walking through a hotel lobby in Hawaii.

0:44:060:44:11

"You think you could find a way to introduce me to Elvis? My sister and I have got all his records."

0:44:110:44:16

You know, my sister!

0:44:160:44:18

He goes, "OK, actually, he's in town, he's making a movie.

0:44:180:44:23

"But you'd have to get up at 6am."

0:44:230:44:25

I didn't sleep, I called my sister.

0:44:250:44:28

"What questions shall I ask Elvis, they want me to interview Elvis!"

0:44:280:44:32

She said, "Ask him, does he dye his hair?"

0:44:320:44:34

PETER: 'When are you coming to England?'

0:44:340:44:36

ELVIS: 'Coming to where?

0:44:360:44:37

'Oh, excuse me, coming to England. I don't know.

0:44:370:44:41

'Maybe in a year or so.'

0:44:410:44:44

I was looking at his hair going, "It does look dyed, but I'd better not mention it."

0:44:440:44:48

PETER: 'How come you made it without long hair?'

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LAUGHTER

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But the ultimate transatlantic summit

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took place in Los Angeles on Friday, August 27th, 1965.

0:44:550:45:01

It was negotiated like the, er, Middle East peace treaty.

0:45:010:45:05

There were no pictures ever taken.

0:45:050:45:07

There is no picture, ever, of Elvis and the Beatles.

0:45:070:45:10

Paul, what are your immediate reflections about last night -

0:45:110:45:15

your meeting with Elvis Presley?

0:45:150:45:17

Very nice, Larry. Very nice. I had a good time. He's a nice fella.

0:45:170:45:21

Just what I expected, in fact.

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And, er, we tried to persuade him to make some new records,

0:45:230:45:27

like the old records.

0:45:270:45:29

So we had a good laugh, a few drinks.

0:45:290:45:31

Rocking and rolling, playing the instruments,

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-and, er, bit of billiards, bit of roulette.

-Roulette?

0:45:340:45:37

I had a great time. Yes, yes, gambling away. I lost, of course. I always lose!

0:45:370:45:42

Elvis had abdicated but by 1966,

0:45:470:45:51

young America had its own bohemian king.

0:45:510:45:54

# Johnny's in the basement Mixing up the medicine

0:45:550:45:57

# I'm on the pavement Thinking 'bout the government

0:45:570:46:00

# The man in the trench coat Badge out, laid off

0:46:000:46:03

# Says he's got a bad cough Wants to get it paid off

0:46:030:46:06

# Look out, kid It's something you did

0:46:060:46:08

# God knows when But you're doing it again...

0:46:080:46:12

Bob Dylan's revolutionary blend of poetry and folk rock

0:46:120:46:16

put him on an equal standing with the Beatles

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in the eyes of many American youth.

0:46:180:46:21

And in 1966, the Beatles' American adventure would come to an end

0:46:210:46:25

with a third and final tour.

0:46:250:46:27

# There are places I remember... #

0:46:280:46:32

A throwaway comment made by John Lennon,

0:46:320:46:35

comparing the Beatles to Jesus Christ,

0:46:350:46:38

had infuriated the Christian far right.

0:46:380:46:41

Ku Klux Klan, being a religious order,

0:46:420:46:44

is going to come out here the night that they appear at the Coliseum here,

0:46:440:46:49

to stop this performance.

0:46:490:46:51

This is nothing but blasphemy.

0:46:510:46:53

-Are you burning your Beatles records?

-Yes, sir, I burned 'em.

0:46:530:46:56

-You burned them yourself?

-I already burned 'em.

0:46:560:46:58

# And some are living

0:46:580:47:01

# In my life I've loved them all... #

0:47:010:47:06

A reluctant climb-down marked the end of innocence

0:47:090:47:12

for the Beatles' special relationship with America.

0:47:120:47:15

-Mr Lennon, could you tell us what you really meant by that statement?

-Christ? When I was talking about it,

0:47:150:47:21

it was very close and intimate with this person that I know, who happens to be a reporter.

0:47:210:47:25

I was using expressions on things that I'd just read,

0:47:250:47:29

and derived, about Christianity.

0:47:290:47:31

Only I was saying it in the simplest form that I know, which is the natural way I talk.

0:47:310:47:36

But more importantly, playing live had begun to limit the band.

0:47:390:47:43

# Tell me that you've got everything you want

0:47:430:47:46

# And your bird can sing... #

0:47:460:47:49

The previous year's Shea stadium gig had broken attendance records,

0:47:490:47:53

but also marked the beginning of the end.

0:47:530:47:56

It did eventually get to be too much. At first we liked it,

0:47:570:48:00

cos it was the novelty and the excitement - it was like, "Wow, we're going down great."

0:48:000:48:05

But after a while, we started to get a bit annoyed

0:48:050:48:08

that we couldn't hear what we were playing. The novelty wore off a bit.

0:48:080:48:12

# When your prized possessions

0:48:120:48:16

# Start to weigh you down... #

0:48:160:48:18

We still loved the fans and loved that we were going down so well, but we DID want to hear

0:48:180:48:22

what we were doing. You know, we WERE musicians, after all.

0:48:220:48:26

It was just like... God, you know, it's just, er...

0:48:300:48:34

"This isn't good for our musical development."

0:48:340:48:36

And we were making records by then

0:48:360:48:40

where we were exploring a little bit and moving a little bit further forward from what we'd done -

0:48:400:48:45

repackaging American music.

0:48:450:48:47

We were now kind of making our own in-roads,

0:48:470:48:51

and THEY were now repackaging our music and sending it -

0:48:510:48:55

mirroring it - back to us.

0:48:550:48:57

Although the Beatles wouldn't return to American soil after 1966,

0:48:590:49:03

they would remain avatars for American youth

0:49:030:49:07

through their increasingly progressive studio albums.

0:49:070:49:11

And for the British invasion as a whole,

0:49:110:49:13

the tide was beginning to turn.

0:49:130:49:15

In a couple of years, you know, suddenly, the Beatles are making Rubber Soul

0:49:170:49:22

and the Rolling Stones are making Aftermath, and you're having a kind of maturity.

0:49:220:49:26

Certain of these bands are part of what had been

0:49:300:49:33

this fad of rock'n'roll,

0:49:330:49:35

and certain of them were really, kind of, creating a new music.

0:49:350:49:41

# Under my thumb

0:49:410:49:43

# The girl who once had me down... #

0:49:430:49:48

And that was where, you know, like, bands like The Searchers or Gerry And The Pacemakers,

0:49:480:49:52

or certainly Freddie And The Dreamers, Wayne Fontana And The Mindbenders.

0:49:520:49:57

You know, there was a difference between who was doing what,

0:49:570:50:02

and who was going to stick around and who wasn't.

0:50:020:50:06

# I'm leaning on the lamp

0:50:060:50:11

# Maybe you think

0:50:110:50:14

# I look a tramp... #

0:50:140:50:15

A division grew between those Brits who wanted to be part of the counter-culture

0:50:150:50:20

and those who were pure entertainers.

0:50:200:50:23

Suddenly, the idea that musicians could -

0:50:240:50:28

which I always found preposterous...

0:50:280:50:31

Musicians could have some political influence.

0:50:310:50:33

I thought we were on the other team.

0:50:330:50:35

I'd always thought we were on the team with no influence on anybody except girls -

0:50:350:50:39

and if you're really lucky, some guys'll like the music, as well, and you'll sell twice as much.

0:50:390:50:44

# I'm leaning on the lamppost at the corner of the street

0:50:440:50:49

# In case a certain little lady comes by... #

0:50:490:50:53

There was a lot of tension because of the Vietnam War.

0:50:550:51:00

The old guard was saying, "We must defend the country,"

0:51:000:51:03

and young guys were saying, "I don't want to get killed for this. This is stupid."

0:51:030:51:06

It was just such a hot issue, and there were so many people,

0:51:080:51:11

you couldn't lie about it and say, "Oh, it's great," or, "I have nothing to say."

0:51:110:51:15

You were in a corner, so you had to speak the truth.

0:51:150:51:18

In America, people keep asking about Vietnam - does this seem useful?

0:51:180:51:21

I don't know. If you can say that war's no good and a few people believe you,

0:51:210:51:25

it may be good. You can't say it too much - that's the trouble.

0:51:250:51:28

It seems silly to be in America and for none of them to mention Vietnam, as if nothing was happening.

0:51:280:51:33

But why should they ask YOU? You're successful entertainers.

0:51:330:51:36

Americans always ask showbiz people what they think about it.

0:51:360:51:39

So do the British. Showbiz - you know how it is(!)

0:51:390:51:43

I was chastised by everybody because I supported the war in Vietnam.

0:51:430:51:48

Somebody asked me my opinion. I need to be able to sleep at night.

0:51:480:51:51

A little more bottom.

0:51:510:51:52

Monterey Pop in 1967 was the epiphany for a new counter-culture.

0:51:540:51:59

The first major festival, it was a showcase

0:52:000:52:03

for the psychedelic courts of both London and San Francisco,

0:52:030:52:06

during the Summer of Love.

0:52:060:52:08

You had your Monterey Pop festival, which was an enormous influence

0:52:080:52:13

on anybody in music or fashion or culture, on that California coast.

0:52:130:52:19

The Who were on it.

0:52:210:52:23

Jimi Hendrix, who was almost a British act, really, was on it.

0:52:230:52:28

A great gathering of people. A great ensemble of music, of all genres.

0:52:300:52:36

People there just...for the event, in an atmosphere of peace and love,

0:52:360:52:44

and just thoroughly enjoying it.

0:52:440:52:46

You know, Monterey was extremely important, in terms of

0:52:480:52:52

ushering in this next phase of what popular music generally -

0:52:520:52:56

but also popular music from England, specifically - was going to be.

0:52:560:53:00

Some of the British invasion would join the new counter-culture.

0:53:010:53:06

They had saved American rock'n'roll

0:53:060:53:08

and now they were going to save America itself.

0:53:080:53:12

And from 1967 onwards, messianic zeal would replace cheeky-chappy.

0:53:120:53:17

I think that pop musicians in today's generation

0:53:170:53:20

are in a fantastic position - they could rule the world.

0:53:200:53:23

We have the power, we have the tolerance.

0:53:230:53:26

We can go in front of a television camera, we can go on the air,

0:53:260:53:29

and we can say with definition that Hitler was wrong,

0:53:290:53:31

that Rockwell is wrong, that people who hate Negroes are wrong, right?

0:53:310:53:35

-And we can get up there and shout it to the world, Pete.

-But I don't...

0:53:350:53:38

We can shout it to the world, so why don't we do more of it?

0:53:380:53:42

I've known Peter for many years, and he's a good Lancashire lad -

0:53:420:53:45

got his feet on the ground.

0:53:450:53:47

He just thinks a little differently, or did at that point, to me.

0:53:470:53:52

I think I kind of viewed him as...

0:53:520:53:54

..moving more towards the, er, side of the status quo and that everything was OK,

0:53:580:54:02

and I was saying, "No, not everything's OK."

0:54:020:54:04

That's what I'm saying - we can...

0:54:040:54:06

-We can stop world wars before they ever started.

-I disagree.

0:54:060:54:10

-I don't believe that you can...

-You know who start world wars? People that are over 40.

0:54:100:54:16

The other people in the interview, like Graham Nash, treated me like...

0:54:160:54:19

And Graham Gouldman - who were my friends from Manchester.

0:54:190:54:22

"Oh, it's ridiculous - so naive." Well, yeah!

0:54:220:54:26

I'm 18 - I can think and say whatever I want.

0:54:260:54:28

Look what's just happened - you'd just assassinated President Kennedy, The Beatles just came

0:54:280:54:33

and changed your complete culture of this country.

0:54:330:54:36

I said, you know, "We can make this a better place.

0:54:360:54:40

"We can speak our minds.

0:54:400:54:42

"We can utilise music as a form of true communication."

0:54:420:54:44

Today, because the kids are so tolerant,

0:54:440:54:47

and they really want to understand what people are trying to say,

0:54:470:54:51

then they'll go with Donovan 99% of the way,

0:54:510:54:54

because what he's trying to put over is best for everybody.

0:54:540:54:58

It'll stop... What Donovan's trying to put over will stop wars dead.

0:54:580:55:02

MUSIC: "Hurdy Gurdy Man" by Donovan

0:55:020:55:05

# Thrown like a star in my vast sleep

0:55:050:55:08

# I open my eyes to take a peep

0:55:080:55:10

# To find that I was by the sea... #

0:55:100:55:14

Popular culture was in trouble - two wars and a depression.

0:55:140:55:17

A nuclear disaster hovering over the whole world,

0:55:170:55:23

and Vietnam War.

0:55:230:55:24

A greedy grab for money,

0:55:260:55:28

and suffering by the hundreds of thousands.

0:55:280:55:32

# Hurdy gurdy, gurdy, gurdy, gurdy

0:55:320:55:35

# Gurdy, gurdy, he sang... #

0:55:350:55:37

Somehow, through the supposedly safe avenue

0:55:370:55:44

of a 45-revs-per-minute single

0:55:440:55:45

and a beautiful young boy singer, called Donovan -

0:55:450:55:51

that was how we did it.

0:55:510:55:53

That's how these issues could be sung - through pop music.

0:55:530:55:56

# Histories of ages past

0:55:560:56:00

# Unenlightened shadows cast... #

0:56:000:56:02

Then the drugs thing came, on top of that.

0:56:020:56:05

Everybody suddenly became more, sort of, cool and "my guru" and all that.

0:56:070:56:12

# Singing songs of lo-o-ove... #

0:56:120:56:15

And what happened was great, cos all the guys would go in a room to smoke dope and talk about,

0:56:150:56:19

you know, the meaning of life, the war in Vietnam...

0:56:190:56:23

So we'd take their girls out.

0:56:230:56:25

Steal their girlfriends. It all was working out pretty good for us.

0:56:280:56:32

We didn't realise that the guru world would eventually take it over.

0:56:320:56:36

By 1968, the axis of influence in music had shifted firmly west -

0:56:400:56:45

and if you wanted to be significant in this new world,

0:56:450:56:48

you had to leave the British invasion behind.

0:56:480:56:51

I think it was the difference between people

0:56:510:56:54

that drank a lot of beer and people that smoked a lot of pot.

0:56:540:56:57

It's a different way of thinking. Pot, for me, opened up my mind to...

0:56:570:57:01

..infinite possibilities about what I could do with my life.

0:57:030:57:07

We became very different people, you know? I wasn't...

0:57:070:57:12

I wasn't happy to be writing Hollies songs any more - you know,

0:57:120:57:15

the "moon, June, screw me in the back of the car coming down the hill" kind of pop songs.

0:57:150:57:20

We were brilliant at it, but I was a little tired of that.

0:57:200:57:23

# Teach

0:57:230:57:25

# Your children well

0:57:250:57:28

# Their father's hell... #

0:57:280:57:29

Graham Nash swapped Manchester for Los Angeles

0:57:290:57:33

and formed Crosby, Stills and Nash -

0:57:330:57:36

a supergroup of transatlantic long-hairs.

0:57:360:57:39

I listened to Horace Greeley! "Go west, young man, go west."

0:57:410:57:45

I went to where the music was, and the music -

0:57:460:57:49

in my mind, right then - was David and Stephen and myself.

0:57:490:57:54

They lived in Hollywood, so I came to Hollywood and moved to Laurel Canyon,

0:57:540:57:58

and shared the house with Joni Mitchell.

0:57:580:58:02

The British invasion, like all fashions, came to an end.

0:58:080:58:13

It had been a process of mutual self-discovery.

0:58:130:58:16

# It's the time

0:58:160:58:18

# Of the season... #

0:58:180:58:19

We helped them come of age...

0:58:190:58:21

# When love runs high

0:58:210:58:24

# And this time... #

0:58:240:58:25

..and they helped show us the future.

0:58:250:58:28

# And let me try with pleasured hands

0:58:290:58:33

# To take you in the sun... #

0:58:330:58:35

From now on, America would be the land of opportunity for British rock.

0:58:350:58:40

# It's the time of the season

0:58:400:58:44

# For loving... #

0:58:440:58:47

A new frontier and a new market for the next generation to go west.

0:58:470:58:52

This whole British invasion had really taken off over there,

0:58:540:58:58

and, er, you know, I just came in and managed to enjoy a major part of it.

0:58:580:59:03

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In the 1960s, arriving British groups were astounded by pizza, skyscrapers and real cowboys while America fell in love with a curious blend of swinging London and ye olde England.


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