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# Sometimes it's hard to be a woman

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# Giving all your love to just one man... #

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MAN: There were times when she would be overwhelmed by feelings.

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# You'll have bad times... #

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She'd stand there like a statue and you'd know something was happening in the depths of her.

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Sometimes she would back away from the microphone and couldn't continue.

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# I'll need time... #

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This was a person of very deep feeling.

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# ..To get you off my mind... #

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I remember seeing her teetering on a stool with the high heels

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and this totally manufactured, plastic, peroxide image

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poured out of the Barbie mould.

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# ..Asked too much of you from time to time... #

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And then this voice, this amazing voice that came out over the top of it. A mass of contradictions.

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# I don't want to play possum... #

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As a singer she was pretty genius

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and could sing really loud and forcefully and still be vulnerable.

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# Cos when she played house... #

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Tammy never knew she was a star.

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-No, she didn't. She really didn't.

-She never knew she was a star.

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Tammy kept her beautician's licence

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because she had in the back of her mind that his career could end

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and she might have to go back to working on people's hair.

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# Our D-I-V-O-R-C-E... #

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She had the beauty, the talent. She sang like a bird.

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There's nobody greater.

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I just felt kinda sorry for her.

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PARKINSON: You've been married five times. That's extraordinary.

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-I'm a firm believer in marriage.

-You obviously are!

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I wanted her to find happiness.

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If it meant her being married ten times, that was fine.

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# Stand by your man... #

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Stand By Your Man was a reflection of Tammy's background.

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Most everybody's background in that period.

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Maybe that was why it caused such a controversy

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because women were rebelling against that attitude.

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It was such a powerful song.

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# Stand by your man... #

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But it was saying everything that I wanted to smack her in the teeth for.

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# And show the world you love him... #

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She's not the victim. She's singing this as total heroine.

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And it's that contradiction

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that makes that record... one of the best records ever made.

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# Keep giving all the love you can... #

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She literally walked through hell to become Tammy Wynette.

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# Stand by your man. #

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Tammy was born Virginia Wynette Pugh

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on a farm in Mississippi during World War II.

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Her grandfather owned a lot of farmland.

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She was a lot better off than some of her friends

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but I'm sure it was very difficult.

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In the forties and fifties, that was a tough time.

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There's a lot of land here.

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I don't know how many acres, but there's a lot of land here,

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and it was all in cotton and corn.

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She wasn't too proud of it sometimes but she did pick.

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Her father died of a brain tumour when she was nine months old.

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He was 26.

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Tammy's father was a real musician

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and he never had a music lesson in his life, that was natural.

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This was the living room. Tammy bought 'em two chandeliers.

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I wouldn't have thought about them being there now. Kinda shocked me.

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But it's been a long time, hasn't it?

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It makes me want to get in there. But I'm sure this door...

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Oh! Come in.

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I still have his guitar, his mandolin.

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This piano.

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This piano is...where he sat, two weeks before he died,

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he was blind and placed my hands on the keys

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and said, "If she has any talent, see that she has lessons."

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Her father's death had a major role on her as an adult.

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I believe that that's why she... you know, went from the men to men that she did.

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I don't think she ever found the happiness that she wanted.

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She was always looking for that...

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support that she probably, you know, would have gotten from her father

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but never had the opportunity.

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SHE SOBS

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I guess the same old station isn't there any more.

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After her father's death, her mother Mildred went off to Memphis

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to work in a munitions factory.

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Wynette stayed on the farm with her grandparents.

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As her father had wished, her mother paid for piano lessons.

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The man that taught the lessons said, "Hazel, we're wasting her money." And I said, "Why?"

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And he said, "Because I can play her a song one time and she can play it before she leaves me."

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She was just a musician like her daddy.

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GOSPEL SINGING

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# I'll fly away, fly away

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# When I die, hallelujah

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# By and by

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# I'll fly away, fly away. #

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Wynette used to sing in church.

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The Baptist preacher had a radio show and she got to sing on it.

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# To a land where joy will never end

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# I'll fly away, fly away... #

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By the time she was a teenager, her mother had moved back to the farm.

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She was a really rumbustious child.

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I think my grandmother had her hands full.

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# I'll fly away, fly away. #

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My grandmother was a very, very tough woman.

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As we were growing up,

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we were petrified of her, because she was so...

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You know, she could be very...strong.

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I think it was very difficult because they were two strong-willed women. I think they kinda butted heads.

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They really clashed when she got together with Euple Byrd.

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They got into a big fight about her dating Euple, who was an older man.

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He'd been in the army, so that made him seem dangerous.

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Mum got married to get away from my grandmother.

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At 17, Wynette left school to marry

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and had her first child six months later.

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Now she really was poor.

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She lived in a house that was, you know, no running water and no heat.

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She realised, "I might've had it really good where I was,"

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but she was so determined to do what she wanted to do.

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In 1962, she had her second daughter, Jackie.

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When my mum was married to my dad,

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he would just take whatever job he could find. I think he and my mum fought quite a bit.

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Um...we weren't living in the best of conditions.

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To make ends meet, she started training as a beautician.

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In 1963, they moved to Memphis.

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They rented an apartment in a seedy part of town. Wynette got a job as a barmaid.

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She had never even been inside a bar

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because she was raised by people who did not drink at all.

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It was against their religion. The couple who owned this place

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allowed her to sing for the customers,

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which is the first time she'd sung anywhere except in church.

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PIANO INTRO

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# When the sky turns to silver

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# Just before dark

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# And the night comes to haunt me again

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# When gone is the memory

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# Of a sadness like mine

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# Sing me a lonesome song... #

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For the first time, she thought she might make it as a singer.

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Her marriage was dead

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but she was pregnant again. She threatened to divorce.

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It was all too much for her.

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She thought she saw a dead man in the attic.

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She grabbed the children and drove round for hours.

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She had a breakdown, was hospitalised

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and given 12 rounds of shock treatment.

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But she still insisted she wanted a divorce.

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She said, "I've left him."

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I said, "Oh, honey, you've not done that, expecting that baby?"

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"Yes, I have and don't you try to talk me out of it."

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I said, "Have you got any money?" She said, "I don't have any money."

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I gave her 5 and I begged her to let me come get her mother

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and she wouldn't do it. She said, "She'll stop me."

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She made it to Birmingham. The baby she was expecting was premature

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and nearly died.

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All of us was worried to death about Tammy.

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She was up there, a country girl, and didn't know - like me - nothing.

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And... She made it, though!

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She might be lazy in the cotton field

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but otherwise she was industrious.

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Wynette knew what she wanted.

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She didn't really feel like she had a choice.

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It's sort of like a calling...

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or God-given drive to...

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to fulfil your talent.

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And Tammy was an exceptionally talented woman.

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To want a career in the limelight...

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in addition to talent, you have to have a certain need.

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She was poorer than most of the audience, even.

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And that need,

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that want, that...

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yearning...to be somebody

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is something that you have to have burning inside of you to make it.

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She auditioned for a local TV programme.

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I guess it was about 4.30 in the morning. We used to go on the air at five.

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We were in the coffee shop drinking coffee

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and Tammy came in

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and wanted to audition for the show.

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So I said, "Sure."

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I got my guitar and she sang me some songs.

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I said, "My goodness, you'll be welcome to be on from now on." She was terrific.

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This is the aisle that she walked.

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She'd be singing a song as she came down the hall.

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# Your hand is like a torch

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# Each time you touch me... #

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You knew she was a great singer from the first time you heard her.

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Her voice was classic country

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and she sang the greatest songs in the repertoire of country music.

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Jeannie Seely's song "Don't Touch Me", she used to sing

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and it just grabbed you by the throat. It was bone-chilling.

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# ..The door to heaven... #

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It's one of the sexiest voices in the world as well, because...

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it's both strong and it's vulnerable.

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# Oh, don't touch me

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# If you don't love me sweetheart. #

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You could tell people loved her because we'd get 200, 300 letters a day

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saying, "Let that girl sing more."

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# Your kiss is like a drink

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# When I'm thirsty... #

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At seven o'clock, she'd go to work in the beauty shop.

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"I gotta get going," she'd say.

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# ..For you

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# With all my heart... #

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She was living in a little house near the steel industry.

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That something so beautiful could emerge from that house every day

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and show itself to the world was overwhelming.

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The song that she wrote, "Matrimony", it was so heartfelt.

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# You can't tell me how it feels to sit alone most all your life

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# You can't tell me how it feels to be a lost and lonely wife... #

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That line "how it feels to be a lost and lonely wife",

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she had to stop recording and do it again. She couldn't go on.

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I don't think she'd ever said these words aloud.

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It was like they were tearing her apart.

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# You can't tell me how it feels to sit alone most all your life

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# You can't tell me how it feels to be a lost and lonely wife

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# You can't tell me how it makes you feel to know you've done your best

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# That after all the grades are in you finally failed the test

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# You've heard that old, old saying better once than not at all

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# And that everyone should choose their destiny

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# If you head for that thing called matrimony

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# Oh, I hope you'll have much better luck than me. #

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She certainly made love and marriage sound like a battlefield.

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One night, we played in a piano bar.

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People sat around the piano and she sat on a stool beside me

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and...the drunks wanted her to lead them in singing "We All Live In A Yellow Submarine",

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which she hated.

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She did it, but she turned to me and said, "Why do they have to be so close? I'm frightened."

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She was afraid of the public.

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Us girls had talked. We all believe that Mum had depression.

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It just escalated through the years.

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She felt she was doing whatever she had to do to take care of her family

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and then this hit her and it kinda set her back.

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She told me about a lot of her fears as being inside her body

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and maybe she could go to a surgeon and have it cut out.

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And I said, "What's so frightening to you?"

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She just bit her lip and said, "I don't know, David."

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Fearful but forceful, she was on her way.

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On days off from the salon, she'd drive to Nashville and trek round record labels looking for a deal.

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I remember going round to the record companies.

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I remember her being so disappointed.

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She'd say, "I hear what's on the radio and I can do better than that."

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She believed if the right people heard her, they'd instantly want to record her.

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Rejections came thick and fast.

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In those days, if a producer had one girl singer, he didn't want two.

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They were the opening act on the men's shows still.

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Just because you had a good voice or just because you could write,

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that didn't mean Nashville had open arms for you if you were a woman.

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For a woman back then it was more difficult than it was for a man.

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She'd never done anything like that before, so she was kind of raw.

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Seven major labels turned her down.

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Nashville's a tough town. You have to be a bit of a Scarlett O'Hara

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to survive in the Southern hemisphere

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because there still is that Southern mentality about women.

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In 1966, still with no contract,

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she moved to Nashville, with three kids under five in tow.

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She was 23.

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She met an aspiring singer-songwriter called Don Chapel.

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Before long, she would marry him.

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They would come over to the Billboard Hotel to pitch songs.

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And Tammy, bless her heart, she was just like a little wallflower.

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She was kind of homely looking

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and real shy.

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First time I heard her sing, I said, "There's a star."

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If somebody would work with her.

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And...a person did.

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Somebody said that she should go and see Billy Sherrill.

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She knocked on the door and this voice said, "Come on in."

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She said she wanted him to hear her voice.

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# You can't tell me how it feels to be alone most every night

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# You can't tell me how it feels... #

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When it was over, he said, "That's a pretty good song but that's not what I'm looking for.

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"If you could find me the right kind of song, I'll record you."

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Two weeks later, she called him.

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He said, "Come on in, I think I've just found something."

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# Just follow the stairway

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# To this lonely world of mine

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# You'll find me waitin' here

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# In apartment number nine... #

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My first memory of Tammy was on an early morning TV show

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here in Nashville.

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And she had just left beauty school and I was a cosmetologist as well,

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so we had that in common.

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She had this fake ponytail like Dolly had

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and I thought, "That's a pretty woman."

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She was singing that first hit of hers "Apartment Number Nine".

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And I thought, "Wow! She's real different."

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# Not so very long ago

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# You walked away from me

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# And after all the plans we made

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# You decided to be free... #

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She just looked so serious

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and like she understood every word of that song.

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# Loneliness surrounds me

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# Without your arms around me... #

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I'd trawl on the radio

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and when they started playing I got bored.

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Her voice stood out. It was different.

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She didn't sound like all the other girls.

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# Now the sun will never shine

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# In apartment number nine. #

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I love to sing "Apartment Number Nine". It's my favourite Tammy tune.

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The lyrics of the song are...

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are so...

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..stark.

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From the beginning of it, it's just follow the stairway, like, "OK...

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"I'm there, I'm totally there."

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When the record was over they said it was by somebody named Tammy Wynette.

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And right then I said to myself, "I know what's happened.

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"She's gone to Nashville and said, 'My name's Wynette Byrd'

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"and they've said, 'Wynette's not a first name, is it?' "

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They had all these Tammy movies that were out,

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so they named her Tammy. "You've got to have your hair tied back and a cute little bow on it."

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In the space of a few months, Wynette Byrd had become Tammy Wynette.

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Billy Sherrill said his first impression was of a pale, skinny little blonde girl

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who looked like she was at her rope's end.

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He took her looks, voice and concerns and shaped them into marketable hits.

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I suspect that Wynette sometimes wondered who this Tammy Wynette person was.

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The special guest, Miss Tammy Wynette

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and a tune entitled "Your Good Girl's Gonna Go Bad".

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# If ya like 'em painted up powdered up

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# Then you ought to be glad

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# Cos your good girl's a-gonna go bad... #

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In '67, Tammy topped the country charts.

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# I'll even learn to like the taste of whisky

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# In fact you'll hardly recognise your wife... #

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This was standard honky-tonk country fare.

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# ..And dress up fancy

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# For my journey to the wilder side of life. #

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Billy Sherrill was still an author in search of a character.

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Tammy, you've been here in Nashville just a few short months

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and already have a couple of hit records to your credit.

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What makes you want to be an entertainer?

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I think the travel is the main thing. I love it.

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I love the shows and meeting the different entertainers.

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-You love to get out on the road and see part of the country.

-Yes.

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-And you do see a lot of it, don't you?

-Sure do.

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Some weeks you're probably in four or five different states.

0:23:110:23:15

Since September I've been in 33 states...

0:23:150:23:18

I certainly missed her. And I'm sure my sisters did too.

0:23:180:23:22

Who doesn't want their mum around? We didn't have a dad.

0:23:220:23:26

It was hard but, just like my friends parents' had jobs,

0:23:260:23:30

this was my mum's job and it took her away from us.

0:23:300:23:33

Let's do "Don't Come Home A-drinking With Lovin' On Your Mind".

0:23:330:23:37

She now met the country superstar who'd been her hero back in the cotton fields.

0:23:370:23:42

Georgie, boy!

0:23:420:23:43

# I feel tears welling up Cold and deep inside

0:23:430:23:47

# Like my heart's sprung a big break

0:23:470:23:49

# And the stab of loneliness sharp and painful

0:23:490:23:52

# That I may never shake

0:23:520:23:55

# You might say I was taking it hard

0:23:550:23:57

# Oh, she wrote me off with a call... #

0:23:570:24:00

Tammy had a hit record out at the time,

0:24:000:24:03

a duet with the late David Houston

0:24:030:24:05

called "My Elusive Dreams".

0:24:050:24:07

She was doing a show and David Houston and she had a spat.

0:24:070:24:11

He wouldn't sing the duet with her and Jones walked out...

0:24:110:24:15

My dad, out of the blue, invited her

0:24:150:24:17

to come on stage to sing the duet.

0:24:170:24:20

# I followed you to Texas

0:24:200:24:24

# I followed you to Utah... #

0:24:240:24:29

She idolised him as a singer

0:24:290:24:31

and he symbolised the kind of star that she wanted to be.

0:24:310:24:36

Afterwards she thanked him and he talked to her

0:24:360:24:39

and wanted to do some more singing with her.

0:24:390:24:42

After a while, they did a lot more singing and recording together.

0:24:420:24:45

# Step by step

0:24:450:24:47

# We walked the road together... #

0:24:470:24:52

AUDIENCE APPLAUDS

0:24:520:24:55

# Hand in hand

0:24:550:24:57

# Love grew more every day

0:24:570:25:01

# When trouble came

0:25:040:25:06

# We held onto each other... #

0:25:060:25:10

She had a lot of feeling, a lot of heart and a lot of soul.

0:25:100:25:14

That was the kind of stuff I'd known.

0:25:140:25:17

Once we started singing together,

0:25:170:25:20

you know, it was... it was just magic.

0:25:200:25:24

In 1967, Tammy had four number-one country hits.

0:25:240:25:28

She was part of a long tradition.

0:25:280:25:30

Country music is the music of the common man.

0:25:300:25:33

It's very similar to the blues in America,

0:25:330:25:35

the white man's version of singing about their troubles.

0:25:350:25:39

That's what country music was.

0:25:390:25:41

# Today I sat alone at the window... #

0:25:450:25:51

But Tammy's wasn't so much country music as suburban music.

0:25:510:25:56

# ..And I watched our little girl outside at play... #

0:25:560:25:59

Not so much for the common man as the common woman.

0:25:590:26:03

# ..With the little boy next door

0:26:030:26:08

# Like so many times before

0:26:080:26:13

# But something didn't seem quite right today... #

0:26:130:26:19

She and Billy Sherrill had found her distinctive voice.

0:26:190:26:23

# So I went outside To see what they were doing... #

0:26:230:26:28

When Tammy Wynette sings about her daughter,

0:26:280:26:32

"I don't want to play house, it made my mummy cry"

0:26:320:26:35

you could think, "That's gross. Why are you pulling our heart strings like that?"

0:26:350:26:40

But that happened to Tammy Wynette. She probably heard her child say, "I don't want to be like you."

0:26:400:26:45

# I don't want to play house

0:26:450:26:47

# I know it can't be fun

0:26:470:26:51

# I've watched Mummy and Daddy

0:26:540:26:58

# And if that's the way it's done

0:26:580:27:02

# I don't want to play house

0:27:020:27:05

# It makes my mummy cry... #

0:27:060:27:09

It's an enormous thing to let millions know that your daughter doesn't want to be like you.

0:27:090:27:14

# Cos when she played house My daddy said goodbye. #

0:27:140:27:25

The songs portray a degree of desperation and anguish

0:27:250:27:30

about the situation she finds herself in.

0:27:300:27:34

There was an acceptance of a woman's lot

0:27:340:27:38

and an acceptance of the pain that went with it.

0:27:380:27:41

It's a complete denial of any alternative.

0:27:430:27:47

She is going through all the crap that life throws at you.

0:27:470:27:51

Having the kids when you're too young,

0:27:510:27:54

having bad men that you've fallen in love with for all the wrong reasons.

0:27:540:27:58

She's gone to hell and back with men.

0:27:590:28:01

The best single record of the year,

0:28:030:28:05

a big hit record by our next guest - D-I-V-O-R-C-E by Tammy Wynette.

0:28:050:28:09

There's certain people for me who're way beyond what you'd call entertainment.

0:28:110:28:16

I can't listen to it at times.

0:28:160:28:18

I have to turn it off, because it goes way beyond.

0:28:180:28:20

It was so dark and it was so moving.

0:28:210:28:24

# Our little boy is four years old

0:28:240:28:29

# And quite a little man

0:28:290:28:34

# So we spell out the words we don't want him to understand

0:28:340:28:43

# Like T-O-Y

0:28:430:28:45

# Or maybe S-U-R-P-R-I-S-E

0:28:450:28:52

# But the words we're hiding from him now

0:28:520:28:57

# Tear the heart right out of me

0:28:570:29:03

# Our D-I-V-O-R-C-E becomes final today... #

0:29:030:29:11

People listen to those songs thinking, "This is me, this is what I'm going through. This is my life."

0:29:110:29:17

I think the people that bought her albums, they thought, "She's talking to me."

0:29:170:29:23

Tammy Wynette, I think, is a tremendous vocalist.

0:29:230:29:27

Really strange vocal style.

0:29:270:29:30

I like the little catch in her voice.

0:29:300:29:32

That sort of little sob in her voice.

0:29:320:29:35

-That little teardrop. >

-The teardrop was natural,

0:29:350:29:39

cos she could not make it do it.

0:29:390:29:42

"Make it, do it." "I can't do it, it just happens."

0:29:420:29:46

Some people might find Tammy's, it's too...

0:29:470:29:51

..over-dramatic, over-stated, her voice.

0:29:530:29:56

Whereas other country singers have got a clearer...cleaner voice

0:29:560:30:01

and they don't show all the pain.

0:30:010:30:04

Tammy lets more of the pain come through.

0:30:040:30:07

To me, there's something really beautiful about that sound.

0:30:070:30:12

Sherrill was the epitome of this...

0:30:120:30:14

There's this still quite controlled backing

0:30:140:30:18

with this very emotional singer in the foreground,

0:30:180:30:21

and with all their quirks and peculiarities on display,

0:30:210:30:25

like Tammy Wynette with this strange enunciation.

0:30:250:30:28

It had a huge power to communicate.

0:30:280:30:31

And it's that period of time when country music was in charge for a short while.

0:30:310:30:36

Next came the real big hitter.

0:30:360:30:38

I worked on "Divorce" "D-I-V-O-R-C-E".

0:30:380:30:42

Did I spell that right?

0:30:420:30:43

I also worked on "Stand By Your Man".

0:30:430:30:47

That was a great session. I was playing the bass and Jerry Kennedy was playing the electric guitar.

0:30:470:30:53

# Sometimes it's hard to be a woman

0:30:530:31:00

# Giving all your love to just one man... #

0:31:020:31:06

I had a great feeling about that record when we did it because she sang with so much soul.

0:31:060:31:11

# And if you love him... #

0:31:110:31:15

When she hits that C sharp, it's pretty thrilling.

0:31:150:31:19

She sails up and hits that note.

0:31:190:31:21

It's an emotion that she feels.

0:31:210:31:24

And she conveyed the emotion.

0:31:240:31:26

# Stand by your man

0:31:280:31:31

# And show the world you love him

0:31:330:31:38

# Keep giving all the love you can

0:31:380:31:46

# Stand by your man. #

0:31:460:31:56

But it was 1968 and feminists weren't concerned about her high C sharp.

0:31:560:32:02

Tammy became the centre of a controversy.

0:32:020:32:06

People gave her a really hard time.

0:32:060:32:08

They assumed that by saying "stand by your man"

0:32:080:32:11

that she was saying that you should take whatever you have to take

0:32:110:32:16

and stick with a man no matter what.

0:32:160:32:18

Anybody who knows my mum knows that she didn't mean that.

0:32:180:32:22

At the time, I did see it as very much a counter-revolutionary thing,

0:32:220:32:26

as straight, anti-feminist propaganda,

0:32:260:32:29

this defence of the male perspective, as we saw it, on women.

0:32:290:32:34

And it seemed such an act of betrayal,

0:32:340:32:36

hearing "Stand By Your Man" and people singing it on the street

0:32:360:32:40

was almost more than one could bear at that time.

0:32:400:32:44

There is no more victim lyrics in the world, I don't think.

0:32:440:32:49

But when you hear her sing it, she transcends it.

0:32:490:32:52

It's up there with "I Will Survive". Differently, obviously.

0:32:520:32:56

"I Will Survive" is for when you're at the disco and you've been chucked by your bloke.

0:32:560:33:01

Whereas Tammy Wynette is when you're at the kitchen sink and you've got to get the kids to school.

0:33:010:33:06

It works in a different way but it's just as strong.

0:33:060:33:10

"Stand By Your Man" is a rallying cry for men all over the country.

0:33:100:33:14

-How did you write it?

-Well, we had a session that day at two o'clock

0:33:140:33:19

and we had two songs that we'd decided on doing.

0:33:190:33:23

And Billy Sherrill, my producer, had the first two lines of this song written.

0:33:230:33:27

So we did the first two songs and he gave the musicians a 15-minute break.

0:33:270:33:33

We finished the song, came back and recorded it.

0:33:330:33:36

-"Stand By Your Man"?

-Yes.

-In that length of time?

0:33:360:33:40

-No more than 20 minutes.

-How does that make you feel, Songwriter?

0:33:400:33:44

-It takes me that long to tie my shoes.

-LAUGHTER

0:33:440:33:47

# ..To understand...

0:33:470:33:50

# And if you love him... #

0:33:530:33:55

Every country woman knows what that's like

0:33:550:33:58

to try to stand by her husband no matter whether he's in the right or in the wrong.

0:33:580:34:04

They were anthems for women of the time.

0:34:040:34:06

Would you stand with me?

0:34:060:34:08

# Stand by your man... #

0:34:080:34:10

A lot of people are critical of that attitude today.

0:34:100:34:13

But that was the culture we grew up in. And that was what we were about.

0:34:130:34:19

# ..When nights are cold and lonely... #

0:34:190:34:23

I couldn't help but hear the irony in that song,

0:34:230:34:26

of this woman who's been knocked around by men.

0:34:260:34:29

She sang that song with great feeling

0:34:290:34:32

but I think she felt it when she sang it.

0:34:320:34:35

Later in her career she would say, "After all, he's just a man."

0:34:350:34:40

It's the ultimate put-down really.

0:34:410:34:43

It's like, "He's like a puppy dog. You can't expect much. He's as thick as two short planks."

0:34:430:34:49

"After all, he's just a man."

0:34:490:34:51

Every time I hear that, I go...

0:34:520:34:55

..yeah...there's some...

0:34:560:34:58

I'm not... I don't necessarily believe that

0:34:580:35:02

but sometimes I have thought that.

0:35:020:35:04

"Well, he can't help it. He's got that thing."

0:35:040:35:07

It's stretching it too far to try and see those lyrics as saying that, particularly in that time.

0:35:110:35:17

# Stand by your man... #

0:35:170:35:20

I still say "Stand By Your Man" is not a conservative song.

0:35:200:35:23

It's about nurturing one another.

0:35:230:35:26

# Stand by your man. #

0:35:260:35:31

There were doormat songs. She had one song called "Don't Liberate Me, Love Me".

0:35:350:35:39

# Don't liberate me

0:35:390:35:44

# Just love me... #

0:35:440:35:47

"Singing My Song" is a very doormat song.

0:35:470:35:49

"I don't know what I do that's right but it makes him come home at night".

0:35:490:35:53

# I don't know what I do that's right

0:35:530:35:58

# But it makes him come home at night

0:35:580:36:02

# And when he's home

0:36:020:36:05

# I make sure he's never alone

0:36:050:36:09

# And that's why I keep singing my song. #

0:36:090:36:16

Tammy was still standing by husband number two, Don Chapel, but not for long.

0:36:160:36:21

They invited my dad over

0:36:210:36:22

to eat dinner one night.

0:36:220:36:24

And while eating there, Don was very angry...

0:36:240:36:28

and violent towards my mother

0:36:280:36:30

and was cussing at her and saying horrible things to her.

0:36:300:36:34

And it made my dad angry. And he stood up and knocked the dinner table over onto Don

0:36:340:36:40

and said that he wasn't gonna speak to her like that

0:36:400:36:44

and that he was in love with her and thought she was in love with him too.

0:36:440:36:48

And she said, "Yes, I am." So they left.

0:36:480:36:50

-You told me you had a surprise for us.

-Yes.

0:36:500:36:55

-She's the brand-new wife of mine.

-I know who you're talking about.

0:36:550:36:58

-Yes.

-The little lady that the CMA voted the number one girl singer of the year.

0:36:580:37:04

You're talking about Tammy Wynette.

0:37:040:37:07

-Right.

-Is she here?

-She's here.

-Put her to work.

-Here we go.

0:37:070:37:11

# Well, I'm gonna get on the old turnpike and I'm gonna ride

0:37:140:37:19

# I'm gonna leave this town till you decide

0:37:190:37:24

# Which one you want the most Them Opry stars or me

0:37:240:37:28

# Milwaukee, here I come From Nashville, Tennessee... #

0:37:280:37:32

Now they really were the first couple of country.

0:37:320:37:36

For her, meeting George Jones, it was just the best and the worst thing in her life.

0:37:360:37:42

They really struggled to make it work.

0:37:420:37:46

# We're gonna hold on... #

0:37:480:37:53

But I do know that she was crazy about him. I mean, she just adored him and he did her.

0:37:530:37:59

The writers who wrote for her,

0:37:590:38:01

and there were about...four of us who wrote regularly,

0:38:010:38:06

would sort of write... what was happening that day.

0:38:060:38:10

And if she and Jones were having a tough time, that's what we wrote about.

0:38:100:38:15

# Life can be rough

0:38:150:38:17

# Sometimes it's... #

0:38:180:38:20

Well, he had his alcohol problem and drug addiction.

0:38:200:38:24

And then, I think, during that time, in the early seventies,

0:38:240:38:27

that was when Mum was just beginning to start her drug addiction.

0:38:270:38:31

George and Tammy had one child together, Georgette.

0:38:330:38:37

Mum's medical problems started after she had a hysterectomy when Georgette was born.

0:38:370:38:44

She was given medication.

0:38:440:38:47

She felt, "I have a prescription for it, so it's OK."

0:38:470:38:51

Because they'd had Georgette, she was so determined to see that work.

0:38:530:38:58

I don't think there was ever any way that it could because of the issues they had.

0:39:010:39:05

There were so many strains on that relationship.

0:39:100:39:13

She had grown up hard

0:39:130:39:15

and didn't want to return to the life from which she came.

0:39:150:39:19

Someone very driven.

0:39:190:39:21

Then you've got George Jones who hit the bottle...

0:39:210:39:25

so hard routinely.

0:39:250:39:28

He couldn't be contained. He couldn't be controlled.

0:39:280:39:32

He was an absolute wild man.

0:39:320:39:34

She wouldn't let him take the car into town cos she knew he'd get in a lot of trouble.

0:39:350:39:40

So he took the keys to the riding lawn mower and rode that into town

0:39:400:39:44

and messed himself up anyway.

0:39:440:39:46

Her and George Jones lived three houses from me on the lake.

0:39:480:39:52

We used to, you know, see each other.

0:39:530:39:56

George would sneak down there and I'd hide a bottle outside the door.

0:39:560:40:01

And he hid it.

0:40:010:40:03

This, I was very angry when I wrote.

0:40:030:40:06

# They said you were a loser when I met you

0:40:080:40:12

# Never stayed with anyone for very long

0:40:130:40:17

# They said I'd never hold you and I guess they knew

0:40:180:40:23

# There'd be something else beside you off and on

0:40:230:40:28

# "I love" you from a four-year-old was such a gift

0:40:290:40:33

# Two little arms around your neck so tight

0:40:330:40:38

# But a four-ounce glass of whisky gave a better lift

0:40:390:40:43

# And a bottle by your pillow made your night

0:40:440:40:48

# I thought that I could make a better man of you

0:40:490:40:54

# But changes don't just happen overnight

0:40:540:40:58

# You asked of us so many things we couldn't do

0:40:590:41:04

# And you just never let that bottle out of sight

0:41:040:41:09

# There's nothing on earth we can do to make you stay

0:41:100:41:15

# But I know every time you touch the bottle

0:41:150:41:19

# You'll hear her voice and see my face every single time

0:41:200:41:26

# Every time you open up that bottle

0:41:260:41:30

# Every time you open up the bottle

0:41:310:41:35

# The bottle. #

0:41:350:41:42

I don't think he ever wanted us to see that side of him

0:41:430:41:47

and I know Mum sheltered us from it.

0:41:470:41:50

But there were occasions when we did.

0:41:500:41:52

He was very volatile.

0:41:520:41:54

And she would not back down.

0:41:540:41:58

So she...

0:41:580:41:59

She would...you know, take it

0:41:590:42:02

and she would give him his money's worth too, so...

0:42:020:42:06

It was very violent.

0:42:060:42:08

# And if you think you've got it made

0:42:100:42:13

# And his love will never fade

0:42:130:42:16

# You'd better listen... #

0:42:170:42:19

Yet Tammy was still giving advice to other women about how to hang on to their husbands.

0:42:190:42:24

# She's out there too

0:42:240:42:27

# And she's a whole lot better-looking than me and you

0:42:280:42:33

# She can do things to a man

0:42:350:42:39

# You never dreamed a woman can do

0:42:390:42:44

# I'm talking

0:42:470:42:49

# Woman to woman... #

0:42:490:42:54

She saw it as if you didn't make it as a wife and mother you were a failure.

0:42:540:43:00

It was a question of survival rather than politics. But I didn't realise that at the time.

0:43:000:43:04

After seven years of standing by George, it was over.

0:43:050:43:10

I was there at the break-up. It was the first time she'd ever gone on the road without George.

0:43:100:43:17

And she said, "I'm scared to go on the road without him."

0:43:170:43:21

And we're like, "You're kidding!"

0:43:210:43:24

She said, "Who'll come to see me?

0:43:240:43:27

"Who'll know who I am?"

0:43:270:43:29

Soon after the break-up, she nearly died from a drug overdose.

0:43:310:43:35

She said she didn't mean to kill herself, just to sleep.

0:43:350:43:39

I really needed this song to help me through some troubled times.

0:43:390:43:43

AUDIENCE APPLAUDS

0:43:430:43:46

# Now and then

0:43:480:43:53

# Lord, you know I'm gonna need a friend

0:43:530:43:58

# Till I get used to losing you

0:43:580:44:02

# Let me keep on using you

0:44:020:44:06

# Till I can make it on my own... #

0:44:060:44:11

This song, Tammy co-wrote with Billy Sherrill and the other George, the George in waiting.

0:44:110:44:16

For a long time I had been in love with Tammy.

0:44:160:44:19

But I was too afraid it would destroy our friendship.

0:44:210:44:26

# But till then I'll lean on you

0:44:260:44:30

# That's all I mean to do

0:44:300:44:33

# Till I can make it on my own

0:44:330:44:39

# Surely someday I'll wake up and see the morning sun

0:44:400:44:46

# Without another lonely night behind me... #

0:44:460:44:51

She started dating Burt Reynolds,

0:44:510:44:54

then the biggest film star in the USA.

0:44:540:44:57

And I'm here with a very special lady,

0:44:570:45:00

who is so shy that...I may do the entire interview myself.

0:45:000:45:05

Why, she hasn't had a hit in over...six minutes.

0:45:050:45:09

-What is the last big hit that you've had?

-"Let's Get Together".

0:45:090:45:13

"Let's Get Together" was her last big hit.

0:45:130:45:17

AUDIENCE LAUGHS

0:45:170:45:19

-And how many did it sell?

-I don't know.

-She doesn't know.

0:45:190:45:23

LAUGHTER

0:45:230:45:26

Well, you don't have to be quick to be a country star,

0:45:260:45:30

you just have to be...

0:45:300:45:32

I remember him coming in and thinking, "Wow! This is a real star."

0:45:320:45:36

I guess I never associated Mum with being a celebrity and Burt was a real celebrity.

0:45:360:45:42

What are you gonna sing?

0:45:420:45:44

A song, if I might say, that was written especially for you

0:45:440:45:49

that you know. It's a song called "You And Me".

0:45:490:45:53

She was happy. She was doing things she wanted to do.

0:45:530:45:57

And she seemed to just come alive.

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We're gonna hear "You And Me".

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# I can feel his heart is beating softly

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# He just loved me so tenderly

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# But it should be you and me... #

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They didn't get married, I think...

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Not that Mum didn't want to.

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She probably would have loved to.

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It wasn't to be.

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She married a local businessman instead.

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I think she knew it wasn't going to work out and married him anyway.

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And realised that was a mistake soon afterwards.

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# Kids

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# Say the darnedest things... #

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They split up after 44 days.

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I was seven years old when it happened.

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It was difficult.

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That was the thing that she was most embarrassed about in her life...

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the number of times she had been married.

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Because her belief was you get married ONE time

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and you stay married and you die married to the same person.

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So she did it again.

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She married him. And this time it was to be until death.

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The songwriter became her husband and manager.

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Tammy and I had a long relationship, a wonderful relationship.

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We were married 20 years.

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And for the most part, the majority were great years.

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The quest was over.

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AUDIENCE APPLAUDS

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# I can hear the rain

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# It's falling softly

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# As I watch him lying next to me... #

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Just two years before,

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she'd told Burt Reynolds this song was written for him.

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Her final marriage would split her family and friends.

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She thought it was going to turn out to be something totally different to what it did.

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But by then she felt, "I can't divorce again

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"because of my fans. They'll look at me this way."

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# ..So tenderly... #

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It just wasn't going to happen.

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# It should be you and me... #

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She picked them wrong. And that was her downfall.

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And anybody who knows her life, knows that.

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That's not a great big secret.

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After she picked George Richey, she never had a chance to pick anything else.

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He gained control and he kept control.

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# No, he can't see

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# It should be you and me... #

0:49:180:49:25

'Tammy was one who dared not be alone.

0:49:250:49:29

'In most instances, her relationships were dependent on HER.'

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I think she was used, er...

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by every relationship she was involved in.

0:49:400:49:45

She knew nothing but work and music,

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the cotton fields and music.

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She didn't know about the world.

0:49:570:50:01

I can remember when she would play towns

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She'd feign an injury so that she'd go to an emergency room

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and be given painkillers to get high.

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When her reputation for doing so became widespread,

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she'd stop faking an injury.

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She would walk off a stage.

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# I'm wearing my jeans a little bit tighter... #

0:50:230:50:26

Tammy was now a country legend, singing her repertoire of golden oldies

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and still cutting country albums that pleased her loyal audience.

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As the years rolled by, she became an institution.

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Then, out of the blue, something surprising shot her back to the top of the pops.

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# Hey, hey... #

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For Tammy, it was like 1968 all over again.

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# They're justified and they're ancient... #

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Just like Billy Sherrill, the KLF could make her seem real,

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while all around was artifice.

0:51:030:51:05

Jimmy said, "What we need on this is Tammy Wynette" -

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a ludicrous idea, sitting in this South London studio -

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but suddenly I could hear her voice, I could hear it in my head,

0:51:120:51:16

and I'm thinking, "He's right,"

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and within three calls I was talking to Tammy Wynette and she said, "Yes, I'll do it."

0:51:180:51:23

Met at the airport by her husband,

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who took me in his powder-blue Jag to First Lady Acres

0:51:270:51:31

and the first thing I hear - "Is that you, Bill?"

0:51:310:51:35

I fall instantly in love with her.

0:51:350:51:38

And we get to the studio,

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and she's got the headphones on

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and she can't do it.

0:51:430:51:45

She cannot sing in time to the track.

0:51:450:51:47

It's absolutely awful and I'm thinking, "This is a disaster."

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So what happens is, George Richey conducts her through the whole thing,

0:51:510:51:55

and that worked, well, sort of worked.

0:51:550:51:58

Actually it didn't work at all.

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When I got back to Britain,

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and I said, "Look, I'm sorry. I've completely failed.

0:52:040:52:07

"The whole thing is a disaster."

0:52:070:52:10

But the engineer we worked with had got this new gear in

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and within a couple of hours it was sounding fantastic.

0:52:130:52:17

# They called me up in Tennessee

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# They said, "Tammy, stand by The Jams"

0:52:200:52:25

# But if you don't like what they're going to do

0:52:250:52:29

# You'd better not stop them cos they're coming through

0:52:290:52:34

# Hey, hey!

0:52:360:52:38

# All bound for Mu Mu Land... #

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She's used to singing about heartbreak.

0:52:430:52:46

The woman's situation in white middle America,

0:52:460:52:49

and suddenly she's got these lyrics, but she didn't bat an eyelid.

0:52:490:52:53

# They're justified and they're ancient

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# And they drive an ice-cream van... #

0:52:570:53:00

She did sing it like she meant it.

0:53:000:53:02

Our grandchildren thought she was the king and queen of all the acts.

0:53:020:53:06

She loved it. It was a great experience.

0:53:060:53:09

# ..ancient... #

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It was No.1 in 22 countries.

0:53:110:53:14

We flew her over to this country to make the video

0:53:140:53:18

and we knew she wasn't a well woman, but she worked and worked and worked.

0:53:180:53:23

# All bound for Mu Mu Land... #

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And you could see she was completely, you know, broken,

0:53:260:53:30

but she'd go back out there and she'd turn it on all over again.

0:53:300:53:34

By 1991, Tammy had had 17 major operations on her stomach.

0:53:410:53:46

She was still touring non-stop.

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She was just a very, very sick woman.

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Consequently she was the strongest woman I've ever known.

0:53:510:53:55

Sometimes we'd be on the bus and we'd be hooked up to breathing machines

0:53:550:53:59

and intravenous machines and oxygen and this and that,

0:53:590:54:03

and unplug herself and go out and sing.

0:54:030:54:06

I came to believe that the thing that kept Tammy alive WAS performing.

0:54:060:54:13

Tammy and George Jones had been estranged for years.

0:54:130:54:18

Tammy became very, very, very sick and was in the hospital

0:54:210:54:26

and I was called at three in the morning to come and be prepared

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to write the obituary that she would not live through the night.

0:54:290:54:33

George went to the hospital to see Tammy and of course she was unconscious.

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When Tammy did wake up from the coma, she said that she dreamed that she saw George there.

0:54:400:54:46

"He said, 'I want you to get better. I want to make another record with you.' "

0:54:460:54:51

That was the most nerve-racking thing that you can imagine.

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-# Golden ring...

-Golden ring

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# With one tiny stone

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-# Cast aside...

-Waiting there

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# For someone to take it home

0:55:050:55:07

-# By itself...

-By itself

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# It's just a cold, metallic thing

0:55:110:55:13

# Only love can make a golden wedding ring. #

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It was just an unbelievably emotional thing.

0:55:180:55:22

The last tour to England,

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I remember calling everybody in the family, all the daughters,

0:55:230:55:27

Richey, her husband, and begging and crying for them not to let Tammy go on the tour.

0:55:270:55:31

I was convinced that she would come back in a coffin.

0:55:310:55:34

My husband and I were flying over to England

0:55:340:55:38

and I got on the plane and I was walking through first-class with my cases

0:55:380:55:41

and I looked over and I saw this woman,

0:55:410:55:44

this very, very fragile, little, old woman,

0:55:440:55:47

and then I went, "Oh, my God!" I realised that was Tammy.

0:55:470:55:51

We brought her in for a BBC show in Birmingham.

0:55:510:55:54

They had to literally carry her on stage.

0:55:540:55:57

She was very, very ill.

0:55:570:55:59

She was so fragile and that was the last time I ever saw her alive.

0:55:590:56:04

# Precious memories... #

0:56:090:56:13

Tammy was just 55 when she died in 1998.

0:56:130:56:17

George Richey and her daughters fell out over the estate,

0:56:170:56:21

control over which went to him,

0:56:210:56:23

and over the circumstances of her death.

0:56:230:56:26

We asked for the body to be exhumed because we had hired a private detective

0:56:260:56:30

and gotten some information on some medication.

0:56:300:56:33

We always felt like THAT had something to do with her death,

0:56:330:56:37

but it was never really...proven.

0:56:370:56:41

# Stand by your man

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# And show the world you love him

0:56:480:56:52

# Keep giving all the love you ca-a-an

0:56:520:57:02

# Stand by your ma-a-an. #

0:57:020:57:10

Tammy was of the generation where she was strong, she was powerful,

0:57:110:57:16

she could run her career, but she always seemed to be getting involved with men,

0:57:160:57:20

letting them run things for her,

0:57:200:57:22

and I think to some degree that was her downfall.

0:57:220:57:27

Maybe she was telling herself, there is someone out there

0:57:270:57:32

that's perfect and right for her,

0:57:320:57:34

even though she wasn't having the greatest time trying to find that person, she didn't want to give up.

0:57:340:57:40

I don't think things turned out maybe quite exactly how she had planned...

0:57:400:57:46

..but I do think she did finally find some peace.

0:57:490:57:51

She really paved the way for women writers and, um...

0:57:540:57:58

you know, she had such a great sense of style and carried herself so well,

0:57:580:58:02

that I have always, you know, looked to her for guidance in a way

0:58:020:58:09

for how to be a real loud country star.

0:58:090:58:12

For her, country music was about being real.

0:58:130:58:16

You have to do a lot of things to be real in country music.

0:58:160:58:21

You have to change your name and let people give you a different hairstyle

0:58:210:58:25

and create this phoney image that you have to carry around on your shoulders

0:58:250:58:29

like a boulder the rest of your life, just for the chance to be real.

0:58:290:58:33

It's a mystery to me.

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# When the sky turns to silver

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# Just before dark

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# And the night comes to haunt me again

0:58:460:58:52

# When gone is the memory

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# Of a sadness like mine

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# Sing me a lonesome song. #

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