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As you can all quite well imagine, | 0:00:05 | 0:00:07 | |
the letters that get themselves printed | 0:00:07 | 0:00:10 | |
are only the tip of an iceberg. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:12 | |
The iceberg in this case | 0:00:12 | 0:00:13 | |
seems to be one of a particularly threatening nature. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:17 | |
In fact, it is an iceberg that is drifting uncomfortably close | 0:00:17 | 0:00:21 | |
to the dazzlingly lit, wonderfully appointed Titanic that is big-time rock pop - | 0:00:21 | 0:00:27 | |
tax exile, jet-set show business. | 0:00:27 | 0:00:29 | |
Letter after letter repeats the same thing. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:35 | |
You all seem to have had it with The Who and Liz Taylor, | 0:00:35 | 0:00:38 | |
Rod Stewart and the Queen, | 0:00:38 | 0:00:40 | |
Jagger and Princess Margaret, | 0:00:40 | 0:00:42 | |
paying three quid to be bent, mutilated, | 0:00:42 | 0:00:45 | |
crushed, or seated behind a pillar, | 0:00:45 | 0:00:46 | |
all in the name of modern, '70s-style super rock. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:50 | |
The aforementioned iceberg cometh. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:54 | |
And that iceberg, dear readers, is you. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:57 | |
Everyone that was involved in punk was a child in the '60s. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:12 | |
So we grew up with rock music | 0:01:12 | 0:01:15 | |
at the centre of the universe, and as a medium for social change. | 0:01:15 | 0:01:20 | |
# It's all right now... # | 0:01:20 | 0:01:25 | |
And what we got, when it was our turn, | 0:01:25 | 0:01:29 | |
was the feeling that we had kind of missed the party. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:32 | |
We had grown up too late to be a part of that. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:35 | |
The whole country had this feeling that there's no innovation, | 0:01:39 | 0:01:42 | |
there's nothing happening, definitely not for us. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:44 | |
When you looked at all the great music that had happened, | 0:01:44 | 0:01:47 | |
you really felt, "Well, what are we going to do?" | 0:01:47 | 0:01:50 | |
You really didn't have a future. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:52 | |
No matter how well you achieved academically, | 0:01:52 | 0:01:57 | |
it's like, "Why bother? Know your place." | 0:01:57 | 0:02:00 | |
We didn't want any bullshit, | 0:02:00 | 0:02:02 | |
we didn't want to have an older generation's views | 0:02:02 | 0:02:04 | |
put upon our shoulders. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:06 | |
We didn't want to have to toe the line. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:09 | |
You've created somebody who has nothing. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:12 | |
And, out of nothing, I'm going to build a whole new suit of clothes. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:15 | |
Out of nothing, I'm going to look great. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:18 | |
Out of nothing, I'm going to terrify your children. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:22 | |
In London, it felt as if a great ashen cloud | 0:02:22 | 0:02:26 | |
had fallen over everything. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:29 | |
The great idealistic issues of the hippie era, | 0:02:29 | 0:02:32 | |
gender politics, issues of race, | 0:02:32 | 0:02:35 | |
issues of authority, were not listened to. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:38 | |
In fact, I had gone to the Home Office and said, | 0:02:38 | 0:02:40 | |
"We have been arguing with you, and if you don't listen to me, | 0:02:40 | 0:02:43 | |
"my generation, the next generation is going to come at you with knives." | 0:02:43 | 0:02:48 | |
This is the evolutionary story of the birth of British punk... | 0:02:48 | 0:02:52 | |
..the underground London scene that came before the fabled ground zero | 0:02:54 | 0:02:58 | |
of the Sex Pistols' Anarchy In The UK. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:01 | |
Over time, punk has been mythologized and reduced | 0:03:02 | 0:03:06 | |
to a barrage of swearing, spitting and safety pins. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:10 | |
The foundations of punk were actually forged | 0:03:12 | 0:03:14 | |
by a gateway generation | 0:03:14 | 0:03:16 | |
sandwiched between the '60s hippies and the '70s punks. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:22 | |
They were the big brothers of punk, | 0:03:22 | 0:03:24 | |
already themselves on a mission to take rock back from the jet set. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:28 | |
This generation paved the way | 0:03:29 | 0:03:31 | |
but would ultimately be wiped out by punk's new dawn. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:34 | |
And the very first stepping stone on the road to punk | 0:03:41 | 0:03:44 | |
was laid by a group of enterprising young American long-hairs | 0:03:44 | 0:03:47 | |
at the beginning of the '70s. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:50 | |
# Well, I'm riding on an airplane... # | 0:03:50 | 0:03:53 | |
One day, in May 1971, | 0:03:53 | 0:03:55 | |
a Californian honky-tonk trio, Eggs Over Easy, | 0:03:55 | 0:03:58 | |
knocked on the door of a north London boozer, | 0:03:58 | 0:04:01 | |
looking for a place to play. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:02 | |
I don't know what they were doing in England, | 0:04:02 | 0:04:05 | |
but they went to see the landlord. There was three of them. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:08 | |
And they said, "Could we play here?" | 0:04:08 | 0:04:10 | |
And the guy said, "We kind of play jazz. What do you play?" | 0:04:10 | 0:04:14 | |
And they said, "Kind of R&B and country and rock and pop. Everything." | 0:04:14 | 0:04:18 | |
He said, "Give us a lunchtime, and see how it goes." | 0:04:18 | 0:04:23 | |
And that's what they did. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:25 | |
And it took off. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:26 | |
# We're going to have a little party | 0:04:26 | 0:04:29 | |
# It's going to last for a week or two. # | 0:04:29 | 0:04:33 | |
They were authentic Americans, and we were really excited by that. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:38 | |
Draft dodgers, I think. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:39 | |
I'm not certain about that, maybe that was just a myth. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:41 | |
And they had a massive repertoire. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:45 | |
They were like a living jukebox. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:48 | |
It wasn't your regular rock crowd. I can remember | 0:04:50 | 0:04:54 | |
a Sikh bus conductor with his uniform on, dancing, | 0:04:54 | 0:04:59 | |
dancing with his wife or with someone else's wife, I don't know. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:03 | |
All kinds of people. It was really, really shaking. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:07 | |
The simple idea of a rock 'n' roll band playing in a pub | 0:05:10 | 0:05:14 | |
was something of a eureka moment for Nick Lowe's band Brinsley Schwarz | 0:05:14 | 0:05:17 | |
and their new manager, ex-Jimi Hendrix roadie, Dave Robinson. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:21 | |
Against the early '70s backdrop of super rock and prog, | 0:05:21 | 0:05:25 | |
rootsy country rock bands like the Brinsleys | 0:05:25 | 0:05:28 | |
had trouble finding places to play. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:30 | |
When I saw Eggs Over Easy, it was like, | 0:05:30 | 0:05:33 | |
"I've got the model. Come down and see - | 0:05:33 | 0:05:35 | |
"this is what I'm telling you you should be doing." | 0:05:35 | 0:05:38 | |
They were the kind of musicians we were aspiring to be. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:41 | |
So we started appropriating quite a lot of their act, you know. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:45 | |
And when they went back to America, | 0:05:45 | 0:05:48 | |
we're appropriated their gig as well. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:50 | |
# Falling in love again | 0:05:50 | 0:05:53 | |
# Falling in love again... # | 0:05:53 | 0:05:56 | |
Having seen the light, | 0:05:56 | 0:05:57 | |
the Brinsleys settled in to a residency at The Tally Ho | 0:05:57 | 0:06:01 | |
and their enterprising manager set out to make the most of his new opportunity. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:05 | |
Finding kindred spirits, | 0:06:05 | 0:06:08 | |
and finding kindred bar managers, became what I got up to. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:13 | |
MUSIC: "All Right Now" by Free | 0:06:13 | 0:06:19 | |
I'd been working for David Bowie in the very early '70s. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:24 | |
After the Ziggy Stardust tours were over, | 0:06:24 | 0:06:28 | |
there was no job for me then with David Bowie. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
So round about the same time, | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
Dave Robinson and myself spent our evenings looking for venues. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:39 | |
We literally used to drive around London | 0:06:39 | 0:06:42 | |
in my old Morris 1000 traveller. | 0:06:42 | 0:06:46 | |
Every time we passed a big pub, we'd stop and go in | 0:06:46 | 0:06:49 | |
and ask the landlord if he had a big room he wanted to rent out. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:52 | |
It was a bit of a crusade, really. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:54 | |
# Now, don't you wait Don't hesitate | 0:06:54 | 0:06:57 | |
# Let's move before They raise the parking rate. # | 0:06:57 | 0:07:00 | |
PIANO PUB MUSIC | 0:07:00 | 0:07:03 | |
These pubs didn't always offer a warm welcome to new faces. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:06 | |
Pubs weren't very appealing to young people. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:13 | |
The vast majority of them were run by Irish men, | 0:07:13 | 0:07:16 | |
with an aggressive attitude! | 0:07:16 | 0:07:20 | |
Almost none of them served meals. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:25 | |
There wasn't a gastro... The word "gastropub" hadn't been invented then. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:29 | |
It was still the older guy | 0:07:29 | 0:07:33 | |
escaping from his wife, | 0:07:33 | 0:07:35 | |
the place they would brag and booze, | 0:07:35 | 0:07:39 | |
and talk about football. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:41 | |
Nothing had happened in pubs for about 30 years, really. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:46 | |
ROCK 'N' ROLL MUSIC | 0:07:48 | 0:07:52 | |
All of a sudden, London's pubs were happening. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:55 | |
Brinsley Schwarz were joined on the scene by groups like Ducks Deluxe | 0:07:55 | 0:07:59 | |
and Bees Make Honey, | 0:07:59 | 0:08:01 | |
and the capital's landlords warmed to what they now called pub rock, | 0:08:01 | 0:08:04 | |
and the thirsty crowds it attracted. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:07 | |
# Caledonia, Caledonia... # | 0:08:07 | 0:08:09 | |
A circuit gradually evolved. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:13 | |
The Tally Ho was the first one, | 0:08:13 | 0:08:15 | |
because Eggs Over Easy were playing there. | 0:08:15 | 0:08:17 | |
The Hope & Anchor became a bigger venue, round about 1972. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:21 | |
Also another pub in Hammersmith called The Red Cow. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:25 | |
Then this place, The Nashville, came along later. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:30 | |
It became the main means by which new acts were exposed to the public. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:36 | |
The great thing about the London pub rock scene was | 0:08:51 | 0:08:53 | |
you didn't need a huge PA system. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:56 | |
You didn't need a tour bus, and you didn't really need a road crew. | 0:08:56 | 0:09:00 | |
Four or five guys, | 0:09:00 | 0:09:01 | |
put it in the car, go down The Hope & Anchor or The Kensington, | 0:09:01 | 0:09:05 | |
set up on beer crates, virtually, | 0:09:05 | 0:09:07 | |
and play for an hour or two. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:09 | |
There were no bells and whistles at a pub rock show, | 0:09:09 | 0:09:13 | |
and this chimed with the bands' preferred style of stripped down music. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:17 | |
Not for them the pomp and peacocking | 0:09:17 | 0:09:20 | |
of the prevailing forms of rock in 1972. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:22 | |
It was a very strange time, that '71, '72 period. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:29 | |
# And I-I-I-I, I love you. # | 0:09:29 | 0:09:33 | |
In the pop world, you had glam. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:36 | |
T Rex and Slade, and those guys. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:40 | |
I went to see Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars. Please! | 0:09:42 | 0:09:45 | |
# Oh, honey, watch that man. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:47 | |
# Well, he talks like a jerk | 0:09:49 | 0:09:51 | |
# But he's only taking care of the room. # | 0:09:51 | 0:09:54 | |
COMMENTATOR: 'It is said Bowie will soon be the world's number one beat singer. | 0:09:54 | 0:10:00 | |
'He'd be the first superstar of pop to wear shorty dresses on stage.' | 0:10:00 | 0:10:03 | |
It was just too cosmetic for me. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:06 | |
I couldn't swallow that. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
# Watch that man. # | 0:10:09 | 0:10:10 | |
You also had this appalling... HE LAUGHS | 0:10:10 | 0:10:14 | |
..this appalling thing called prog rock. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:17 | |
Yes, King Crimson, Family, Genesis. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:25 | |
Jethro Tull, Super Tramp. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:28 | |
You know, prog rock. I hated it. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:31 | |
SYNTHESISER SOLO | 0:10:31 | 0:10:33 | |
Too much light shows, | 0:10:33 | 0:10:35 | |
too much people playing keyboards like this, | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
and all of that business. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:40 | |
Not just the music that people played, | 0:10:42 | 0:10:44 | |
but how audiences reacted, | 0:10:44 | 0:10:46 | |
which was to sit on the floor, with their eyes shut | 0:10:46 | 0:10:50 | |
listening to this wondrously complicated music. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:55 | |
It had gone a long, long way from rock 'n' roll. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
Humdrum daily life for youngsters in the early '70s, | 0:11:06 | 0:11:10 | |
played out to an extended soundtrack of earnest virtuosity | 0:11:10 | 0:11:13 | |
and mutton chop pop, | 0:11:13 | 0:11:15 | |
was in dire need of something new. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:17 | |
Pub rock's answer to this was to dig out something old. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:24 | |
The pub rock bands started looking back to Chuck Berry, | 0:11:24 | 0:11:28 | |
early blues artists, early soul and R&B artists. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:32 | |
# I'm going coast to coast | 0:11:32 | 0:11:37 | |
# I'm going coast to coast. # | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
Classic rock and R&B from the '50s and early '60s played fast, | 0:11:46 | 0:11:50 | |
and, washed down with generous amounts of ale, | 0:11:50 | 0:11:53 | |
was pub rock's response to boring Britain. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:56 | |
Unbeknownst to them, their retro leanings set British rock | 0:11:57 | 0:12:00 | |
on a course that would eventually lead | 0:12:00 | 0:12:02 | |
to the short sharp shock of punk. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:04 | |
ROCK GUITAR INTERLUDE | 0:12:04 | 0:12:07 | |
The Ducks were just crazy. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:14 | |
We just had so much energy. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:16 | |
We just piled it in there. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:20 | |
We played at 150 miles an hour. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:22 | |
Sean Tyla had a very aggressive, kind of rough attitude, | 0:12:25 | 0:12:29 | |
which I rather liked. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:31 | |
He was fabulously abusive to audiences, for one thing! | 0:12:39 | 0:12:42 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:12:42 | 0:12:44 | |
And, you know, that was a bit of a mixed blessing. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:49 | |
# I'm going coast to coast. # | 0:12:49 | 0:12:51 | |
I often used to get people come up to me at the end of a gig, | 0:12:51 | 0:12:54 | |
and say, "You really pissed me off tonight." | 0:12:54 | 0:12:58 | |
I'd say, "What have I done now?" | 0:12:58 | 0:12:59 | |
He said, "You didn't tell me to fuck off!" | 0:12:59 | 0:13:01 | |
So I'm not coming to your gigs if you don't tell me to fuck off. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:06 | |
I said, "All right, OK. Fuck off!" | 0:13:06 | 0:13:08 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:13:08 | 0:13:11 | |
Ducks Deluxe were like a punk rock group in the making. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:18 | |
But a few excess kilos and facial hair | 0:13:18 | 0:13:21 | |
was all that stood between Ducks Deluxe and punk rock legend, really. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:26 | |
By 1973, pub rock gigs had gained a reputation as a good night out | 0:13:33 | 0:13:38 | |
and were proving popular with legions of Londoners. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:41 | |
ROCK GUITAR | 0:13:41 | 0:13:44 | |
The crowds were coming. These pubs now suddenly were full. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:51 | |
The landlords were banging me on the back, saying, | 0:13:51 | 0:13:54 | |
"Dave, this is happening, what are you drinking?" | 0:13:54 | 0:13:57 | |
We understood it was fundamentally about entertainment. | 0:13:57 | 0:14:01 | |
Paul, our singer, very quickly adopted this persona of, like, | 0:14:01 | 0:14:05 | |
an Arthur Daley-type character. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:07 | |
You know, with a moustache and the cigarette | 0:14:07 | 0:14:10 | |
and the sort of sleazy patter. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:13 | |
# You know, I went to a party the other night | 0:14:15 | 0:14:20 | |
# This certain chick was out of sight | 0:14:20 | 0:14:23 | |
# Now, we got talking... # | 0:14:23 | 0:14:25 | |
One of the things that pub rock | 0:14:25 | 0:14:27 | |
is the fact that everybody is in the front row. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:30 | |
Because it's so small, | 0:14:30 | 0:14:32 | |
you are so close to the band. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:36 | |
You are all a part of it. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:38 | |
And the band gets that feeling as well. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:41 | |
# So I slapped a little cash down on the desk... # | 0:14:41 | 0:14:45 | |
It broke down the barriers between the audience and the artist. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:49 | |
If you went to the Hammersmith Odeon to see Mott The Hoople, | 0:14:49 | 0:14:54 | |
chances of bumping into Ian Hunter - extremely remote. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:57 | |
Come down The Hope & Anchor, | 0:14:57 | 0:14:59 | |
chances of bumping into Ian Dury - ten to one. You know? | 0:14:59 | 0:15:03 | |
# Pocket money, ooh, pocket money | 0:15:03 | 0:15:05 | |
# But you know it's true, baby. # | 0:15:05 | 0:15:08 | |
If Ian Dury was at the bar, he'd be hard to miss, | 0:15:08 | 0:15:11 | |
especially with his band Kilburn & The High Roads in tow. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:15 | |
The Kilburns were an entirely different phenomena. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:18 | |
It was like seeing a kind of demented Gene Vincent, | 0:15:18 | 0:15:22 | |
you know, with a deformed drummer and a dwarf bass player, | 0:15:22 | 0:15:26 | |
and it was like the circus had come to town. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:29 | |
# Woke up this morning in a state of shock... # | 0:15:30 | 0:15:33 | |
Unlike the punks who would follow, | 0:15:33 | 0:15:35 | |
or the glam acts their younger sisters liked, | 0:15:35 | 0:15:37 | |
most pub rockers didn't believe in having a look. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:42 | |
Only the Kilburns, who met at Canterbury College of Art, | 0:15:42 | 0:15:44 | |
had their own unique aesthetic. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:47 | |
# And the cocktail rock | 0:15:49 | 0:15:50 | |
# They did the mumble rumble | 0:15:52 | 0:15:55 | |
# And the cocktail rock... # | 0:15:55 | 0:15:57 | |
It was a rather strange band. | 0:15:57 | 0:16:00 | |
It wasn't quite a rock 'n' roll band, that's what we thought. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:03 | |
It was like this... We were Kilburns. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:06 | |
# I climbed out of bed and I call a doc | 0:16:06 | 0:16:10 | |
# Don't need you, oh! Cocktail rock, whoo! # | 0:16:10 | 0:16:14 | |
Kilburn & The High Roads were just so far ahead of everybody else | 0:16:14 | 0:16:21 | |
in look and in...punk feel. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:24 | |
Ian Dury was wearing a razor blade in his ear | 0:16:24 | 0:16:28 | |
years before the punk movement. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:30 | |
# And the cocktail rock. # | 0:16:30 | 0:16:32 | |
All right, Keith, on the guitar, you want to play a little? | 0:16:32 | 0:16:36 | |
More important than his earrings, Ian Dury wrote songs | 0:16:36 | 0:16:39 | |
depicting real life on London's streets | 0:16:39 | 0:16:41 | |
at a time when most pub rockers sang songs about life south of the Mason-Dixon line. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:47 | |
# Mumble, mumble rumble | 0:16:49 | 0:16:51 | |
# And the cocktail rock. # | 0:16:51 | 0:16:54 | |
The Mumble Rumble. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:04 | |
He liked people like Max Wall, Norman Wisdom. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:09 | |
He was very much into the stagecraft of that kind of thing. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:12 | |
And he was almost like a Dickensian figure, as well. Very English. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:17 | |
And I think people loved that we were talking about | 0:17:17 | 0:17:20 | |
Kilburn High Road instead of Memphis. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:21 | |
The Kilburns used to come | 0:17:24 | 0:17:26 | |
to Hornsey College Of Art and do gigs. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:28 | |
Songs like Rough Kids by them - that was a great song. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:32 | |
I think Rough Kids was one of the first punking sounding songs. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:35 | |
You know, very London. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:37 | |
The Kilburns gave a glimmer of hope to the odd teenager | 0:17:42 | 0:17:45 | |
craving tunes that reflected their own lives. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:47 | |
But the pub rockers themselves didn't have youth on their side. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:52 | |
You'd have, like, a lead singer that looked really good. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:54 | |
You thought, he's got the slightly Bowie haircut, and a T-shirt, | 0:17:54 | 0:17:59 | |
but they were wearing flares, and the guitarist would have long hair. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:04 | |
It was really, you know, beery blokes playing Chuck Berry tunes. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:09 | |
Even the Whistle Test could see that pub rock | 0:18:13 | 0:18:16 | |
wasn't quite going to save rock 'n' roll. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:18 | |
Richard, how much impact do you think the pub rock circuit | 0:18:20 | 0:18:23 | |
is having or is going to have now on the musical situation? | 0:18:23 | 0:18:27 | |
If you go round and look at a lot of pub rock bands, | 0:18:27 | 0:18:29 | |
or a lot of bands playing in pubs, | 0:18:29 | 0:18:31 | |
you find that most of them are over 25. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:34 | |
It's really recreating the music of the '50s and the early '60s, | 0:18:34 | 0:18:38 | |
and out of that kind of thing a revolution is not going to come. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:42 | |
The next big influence on rock is going to come from 18-year-olds, 19-year-olds, 20-year-olds. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:48 | |
Pub rock established a live music scene and uncovered | 0:18:58 | 0:19:02 | |
the rock 'n' roll roots that would form the sonic template for punk. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:05 | |
This appetite for raiding the past in search of fresh sounds | 0:19:11 | 0:19:15 | |
was being passed down to even younger kids by two record traders, | 0:19:15 | 0:19:19 | |
Ted Carroll and Roger Armstrong. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:20 | |
We're in Golborne Road, we're outside number 93, | 0:19:23 | 0:19:27 | |
which in 1971 was a flea market. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:30 | |
I had a record stall in the back, and that's where I started my Rock On empire. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:37 | |
This place was the first place you could buy rock 'n' roll records | 0:19:40 | 0:19:44 | |
from the '50s, '60s, and even the '70s, | 0:19:44 | 0:19:47 | |
as well as rhythm & blues and soul, | 0:19:47 | 0:19:49 | |
so it used to attract a lot of journalists, musicians. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:53 | |
Joe Strummer bought a copy of Brand New Cadillac in here | 0:19:53 | 0:19:56 | |
and then recorded it with The Clash. | 0:19:56 | 0:19:58 | |
So there was all that kind of stuff happening all the time, you know? | 0:19:58 | 0:20:01 | |
Well, Ted Carroll and Roger Armstrong, | 0:20:03 | 0:20:06 | |
we liked them, because they were introducing us | 0:20:06 | 0:20:09 | |
to music that I hadn't heard before, | 0:20:09 | 0:20:12 | |
early blues and jazz and all that kind of stuff. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:15 | |
They were big instigators of having the product to turn people on. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:18 | |
Just down the road in Chelsea, rag trade maverick Malcolm McLaren | 0:20:21 | 0:20:25 | |
had also picked up on this revival of rock's teenage past. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:30 | |
Malcolm, he was selling '50s rock 'n' roll stuff | 0:20:30 | 0:20:33 | |
and I used to sell him a lot of records. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:35 | |
When everybody was walking around dressed in BacoFoil, | 0:20:35 | 0:20:38 | |
like Gary Glitter or Anthony Price, | 0:20:38 | 0:20:40 | |
he had a Teddy Boy shop. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:42 | |
If you had to begin in the '70s, | 0:20:43 | 0:20:46 | |
you had to begin your life with, | 0:20:46 | 0:20:48 | |
well, what was the culture that really moved you? | 0:20:48 | 0:20:52 | |
So we would dig up the ruins of what was the 1950s. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:56 | |
We were going to rescue these ruins, we were going to polish them, | 0:20:56 | 0:21:00 | |
dust them down, pull them up. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:02 | |
# Well, it's one for the money | 0:21:02 | 0:21:04 | |
# Two for the show... # | 0:21:04 | 0:21:06 | |
McLaren's shop kitted out a growing number of teenagers | 0:21:06 | 0:21:10 | |
who, fed up with the present, were looking for the future | 0:21:10 | 0:21:12 | |
in the depths of their parents' vinyl collection, | 0:21:12 | 0:21:15 | |
or the back of their wardrobe, for that matter. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:18 | |
American Graffiti was a very influential thing for a much younger age group. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:28 | |
-ARCHIVE: -American Graffiti. -Baby, what's that? -It's a movie! | 0:21:28 | 0:21:31 | |
-Can you dig it? Can you dig it? -Go back in time! | 0:21:31 | 0:21:34 | |
It's one of those great old movies about romance, racing and rock 'n' roll! | 0:21:34 | 0:21:38 | |
Those teenage kids, they used to call it graffiti music. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:41 | |
Graffiti music, they called it. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:43 | |
We were far enough away from the '50s, in a sense, | 0:21:44 | 0:21:47 | |
for it not to be just about nostalgia, in a way. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:51 | |
They were just listening to it, and it was great music, | 0:21:52 | 0:21:55 | |
and it was sort of simple and straightforward, | 0:21:55 | 0:21:58 | |
and it was the antithesis of the grandiose stadium rock kind of things. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:03 | |
Though, funnily enough, it was a stadium gig that, in a sense, | 0:22:03 | 0:22:06 | |
also helped trigger it, which was the Wembley Rock 'N' Roll Show. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:09 | |
# One, two, three o'clock, four o'clock rock | 0:22:09 | 0:22:12 | |
# five, six, seven o'clock, eight o'clock rock | 0:22:12 | 0:22:14 | |
# nine, ten, 11 o'clock, 12 o'clock rock, | 0:22:14 | 0:22:17 | |
# We're going to rock around the clock tonight... # | 0:22:17 | 0:22:20 | |
It was Bo Diddley, Chuck, Jerry Lee... | 0:22:20 | 0:22:23 | |
-Bill Haley. -Bill Haley. -Little Richard. -Little Richard. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:27 | |
And guess who was also there, with a job lot of retro T-shirts to sell? | 0:22:27 | 0:22:31 | |
ARCHIVE: Bill Haley large? | 0:22:31 | 0:22:33 | |
It's Malcolm McLaren with a pop-up version of his Kings Road store. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:37 | |
-Why is rock coming back? -What? -Why is rock coming back? | 0:22:37 | 0:22:40 | |
Well, it never really went away, did it? No, definitely not. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:44 | |
Large Jerry Lee Lewis. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:46 | |
Revisiting the teen tribes | 0:22:48 | 0:22:50 | |
and three-minute hits of the '50s was a signpost on the road to punk. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:54 | |
But, 40 miles south, down the A13, | 0:22:54 | 0:22:58 | |
those pioneering days of rock 'n' roll had definitely never gone away. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:02 | |
In Southend, of course, we had the famous seafront | 0:23:10 | 0:23:13 | |
and the Kursaal Amusement Park, | 0:23:13 | 0:23:15 | |
and the longest pier in the world, | 0:23:15 | 0:23:17 | |
and so there was a bit of a fairground atmosphere. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:20 | |
All the amusement arcades and the piers and so forth had jukeboxes, | 0:23:20 | 0:23:25 | |
and it seemed like rock 'n' roll records were for ever spinning. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:28 | |
MUSIC: "Boogie Chillen" by John Lee Hooker | 0:23:28 | 0:23:31 | |
Canvey was a bit of a backwater, and I'd got into this | 0:23:39 | 0:23:43 | |
rhythm & blues music and that, and naturally I'm thinking, | 0:23:43 | 0:23:45 | |
"Oh, man, I wish I lived in the Mississippi Delta." | 0:23:45 | 0:23:48 | |
And of course - a jolly obvious thing - | 0:23:48 | 0:23:51 | |
you do live in a delta, actually, | 0:23:51 | 0:23:52 | |
and you do live where there are people living in shacks. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:55 | |
# Well, my momma didn't allow me | 0:23:57 | 0:24:00 | |
# To stay out all night long... # | 0:24:00 | 0:24:02 | |
So you could indulge these kind of fantasies, and the whole thing | 0:24:02 | 0:24:06 | |
lit up by the lights and fires of the oil refinery. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:10 | |
# I didn't care what she didn't allow | 0:24:10 | 0:24:12 | |
# I would boogie-woogie anyhow... # | 0:24:12 | 0:24:15 | |
Yes! Got the blues. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:17 | |
Wilko was joined in his fantasy by three other local lads | 0:24:23 | 0:24:25 | |
in a group they called Dr Feelgood. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:28 | |
# If there's something that I like | 0:24:28 | 0:24:31 | |
# It's the way that woman walks | 0:24:31 | 0:24:33 | |
# And if there's something I like better | 0:24:33 | 0:24:37 | |
# It's the way she baby talks | 0:24:37 | 0:24:39 | |
# She does it right | 0:24:39 | 0:24:42 | |
# She does it right... # | 0:24:42 | 0:24:43 | |
Actually, what we were doing was slightly old-fashioned or something. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:49 | |
The local rival bands used to look down on us a little bit, | 0:24:50 | 0:24:54 | |
you know, because we weren't wearing frocks | 0:24:54 | 0:24:57 | |
and singing about going to Mars. | 0:24:57 | 0:24:59 | |
# And when she gets back to her seat | 0:24:59 | 0:25:02 | |
# Mmm, all the people cry for more # | 0:25:02 | 0:25:04 | |
# She does it right... # | 0:25:04 | 0:25:06 | |
Rock 'n' roll's not about The Hobbit and things like that, | 0:25:06 | 0:25:11 | |
that's for girls, you know. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:13 | |
Children's music. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:14 | |
This is for people who want to have a good time. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:17 | |
Having shown the pubs and clubs of the Thames delta a good time, | 0:25:17 | 0:25:21 | |
before long, the Feelgoods set their sights | 0:25:21 | 0:25:24 | |
on the London pub rock scene. | 0:25:24 | 0:25:26 | |
We went up to town to The Torrington to see a couple of bands. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:30 | |
I was there with my brother, and we got in there, | 0:25:30 | 0:25:34 | |
and this band were... I remember saying to my bruv, | 0:25:34 | 0:25:37 | |
"If this is the top band in London... | 0:25:37 | 0:25:39 | |
"..we've got it made." | 0:25:40 | 0:25:42 | |
# I wonder who it could be. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:44 | |
# It was so dark I couldn't see | 0:25:47 | 0:25:49 | |
# But I know it wasn't me | 0:25:49 | 0:25:50 | |
# When I tell you it ain't right | 0:25:50 | 0:25:52 | |
# I know you've got to agree... # | 0:25:52 | 0:25:54 | |
Suddenly, these oiks come from Canvey Island, | 0:25:54 | 0:25:57 | |
just going berserk up there, and people were loving it. | 0:25:57 | 0:26:00 | |
# Roxette | 0:26:00 | 0:26:01 | |
# I didn't need to seek you out | 0:26:02 | 0:26:05 | |
# You know the music played so loud | 0:26:07 | 0:26:09 | |
# But I could hear you through the crowd | 0:26:09 | 0:26:11 | |
# You was telling everyone | 0:26:11 | 0:26:13 | |
# About a new guy you'd found... # | 0:26:13 | 0:26:16 | |
The combination of the Feelgoods' musical assault and their working-class geezer image | 0:26:16 | 0:26:21 | |
grabbed the pub scene by the throat and, crucially, | 0:26:21 | 0:26:24 | |
also grabbed the attention of a younger crowd. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:28 | |
Lee Brilleaux looked like he would | 0:26:30 | 0:26:32 | |
punch your head in given a moment's notice, | 0:26:32 | 0:26:34 | |
and Wilko Johnson was just this mad, speed-freak looking kind of guy. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:39 | |
Wilko, for me, was the first sort of guitar hero of the '70s, | 0:26:42 | 0:26:46 | |
the first person I could really relate to. Didn't like all the widdly-diddly... | 0:26:46 | 0:26:50 | |
The sort of poodle-cut American stadium rockers didn't mean nothing to me. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:53 | |
They're slightly forgotten in the roots of punk, | 0:26:56 | 0:26:59 | |
but, actually, they are the British roots of punk, | 0:26:59 | 0:27:02 | |
they're sort of the first British punk rock group. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:04 | |
I think the line between pub rock and punk rock is straddled by, | 0:27:07 | 0:27:12 | |
not only Dr Feelgood, but by Eddie & The Hot Rods. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:16 | |
Get Out Of Denver, baby! | 0:27:16 | 0:27:18 | |
It was fast, and it was urgent. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:23 | |
# Still remember it was autumn and the moon was shining | 0:27:23 | 0:27:26 | |
# 60 Cadillac was roaring through Nebraska whining | 0:27:26 | 0:27:28 | |
# To hit 120, Man, the fields was bending over | 0:27:28 | 0:27:31 | |
# Heading for the mountains Knowing we was trailin' further | 0:27:31 | 0:27:33 | |
# The pipes were blazin' and the screamin' wheels turnin', turnin' | 0:27:33 | 0:27:36 | |
# Had my girl beside me, brother, she was burnin', burnin'... # | 0:27:36 | 0:27:38 | |
Hailing from Canvey Island, | 0:27:38 | 0:27:40 | |
Eddie & The Hot Rods were direct descendants of Dr Feelgood. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:43 | |
They were steeped in the same R&B roots, | 0:27:43 | 0:27:46 | |
but were a few, crucial years younger than their Essex elders. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:50 | |
The Feelgoods are now, not at the peak of their career, | 0:27:50 | 0:27:54 | |
but they're really about as big as it can get. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:57 | |
Eddie & The Hot Rods kind of came and snuck in under that. | 0:27:58 | 0:28:01 | |
They were younger, and they had a younger following, | 0:28:04 | 0:28:06 | |
and they were a very high energy band. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:08 | |
And they went straight into pub gigs that were ready-made. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:14 | |
They had an almost meteoric rise. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:17 | |
The other bands in the early days, like Ducks Deluxe, Brinsleys | 0:28:18 | 0:28:22 | |
and bands like that, were fantastic in their right. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:25 | |
We put a burst of energy into it. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:27 | |
I was quite fit in those days, so it was just... | 0:28:32 | 0:28:35 | |
To let go of the energy I used to go mad on stage, | 0:28:35 | 0:28:38 | |
running around, swinging from the rafters. | 0:28:38 | 0:28:41 | |
There was no-one else like us at the time. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:44 | |
The punk generation had reached the legal age and begun to infiltrate the pub scene. | 0:28:45 | 0:28:50 | |
Faced with a front man of their own age, | 0:28:50 | 0:28:53 | |
they adopted Eddie & The Hot Rods as one of their own. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:57 | |
You went to see people like Eddie & The Hot Rods, '75, '76, | 0:28:57 | 0:29:00 | |
because they were playing a very basic, punky type of R&B. | 0:29:00 | 0:29:04 | |
You know, it was music that you felt you could identify with. | 0:29:04 | 0:29:08 | |
Their eyes were bulging, they looked the part, | 0:29:10 | 0:29:13 | |
they were playing at a tempo that no-one in LA was playing at. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:19 | |
And they were ours. | 0:29:22 | 0:29:24 | |
The Rods cranked up the energy on stage, | 0:29:29 | 0:29:31 | |
but their set still relied on American rock covers. | 0:29:31 | 0:29:34 | |
What would soon set punk apart was a voice with a vision of Britain | 0:29:34 | 0:29:38 | |
as it felt and smelled to the kids it had set adrift. | 0:29:38 | 0:29:42 | |
# I was saying let me out of here before I was even born | 0:29:42 | 0:29:47 | |
# It's such a gamble when you get a face | 0:29:47 | 0:29:50 | |
# I belong to the generation but | 0:29:50 | 0:29:53 | |
# I can take it or leave it each time... # | 0:29:53 | 0:29:56 | |
It was still that sort of hangover from the '60s | 0:29:56 | 0:29:58 | |
that went on into the mid '70s, | 0:29:58 | 0:30:00 | |
where people were still walking around in massive great big flairs this big, | 0:30:00 | 0:30:04 | |
and your dad wearing pasty kipper ties and matching shirts | 0:30:04 | 0:30:08 | |
and all that sort of gear from C&A's. | 0:30:08 | 0:30:09 | |
# Kisses for me | 0:30:09 | 0:30:12 | |
# Save all your kisses for me... # | 0:30:12 | 0:30:14 | |
They were getting into the flower power thing, | 0:30:14 | 0:30:16 | |
but like six years later or something. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:18 | |
# Don't cry, honey, don't cry... # | 0:30:21 | 0:30:25 | |
And if it wasn't bad enough having to suffer | 0:30:26 | 0:30:29 | |
the bad taste hangover from the '60s, | 0:30:29 | 0:30:32 | |
the Britain this generation had inherited was also looking worse for wear. | 0:30:32 | 0:30:37 | |
I can only give you one gallon, sir. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:39 | |
That'll get you to your nearest garage. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:41 | |
So the South Wales miners have decided to turn the screw further. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:45 | |
-Their latest action... -Huge piles of rubbish after the demonstration... | 0:30:45 | 0:30:49 | |
CROWD SHOUTING | 0:30:49 | 0:30:50 | |
-Ferguson? -Here. -Gottley? -Sir. -Green? -Sir. | 0:30:50 | 0:30:55 | |
-Chambers? -Sir. -Londale. -Sir. | 0:30:55 | 0:30:56 | |
Linda Ayre? | 0:30:56 | 0:30:58 | |
Anyone seen Linda Ayre? | 0:30:59 | 0:31:00 | |
Because of that attitude absolutely rampant in the education system | 0:31:00 | 0:31:05 | |
of telling you you really didn't have a future, | 0:31:05 | 0:31:09 | |
that you had no job prospects, | 0:31:09 | 0:31:12 | |
no matter how well you achieved academically. | 0:31:12 | 0:31:15 | |
It's like, "Why bother? Know your place." | 0:31:15 | 0:31:18 | |
The situation in Britain sort of produced us. | 0:31:18 | 0:31:21 | |
It sort of give us a place, in a way, | 0:31:21 | 0:31:24 | |
because that lack of things meant that you had to do something for yourself. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:28 | |
For me, that was music. | 0:31:30 | 0:31:31 | |
Music was just as important to the punk generation | 0:31:33 | 0:31:36 | |
as it had been to their parents in the '60s. | 0:31:36 | 0:31:39 | |
But the characters they would become had been nurtured | 0:31:39 | 0:31:42 | |
by a very different set of sounds and images. | 0:31:42 | 0:31:45 | |
# She's faster than most | 0:31:47 | 0:31:48 | |
# And she lives on the coast Uh-huh... # | 0:31:48 | 0:31:51 | |
There would be no punk without glam. | 0:31:53 | 0:31:55 | |
Bolan was this outright, straight-in-your-face | 0:31:58 | 0:32:00 | |
"I'm going to be a pop star, I'm going to have all your money, | 0:32:00 | 0:32:03 | |
"all your girlfriends, you've had it." | 0:32:03 | 0:32:05 | |
And I remember watching Top Of The Pops | 0:32:05 | 0:32:07 | |
and Bolan was doing Hot Love, and I'd never seen anything like it, | 0:32:07 | 0:32:10 | |
these girls were just, like, whacking off. | 0:32:10 | 0:32:12 | |
And I thought, "That's what I want to get stuck into." | 0:32:14 | 0:32:18 | |
The flamboyant gods of glam divided Britain's male population. | 0:32:21 | 0:32:25 | |
The blokes, who inhabited the pub rock scene, | 0:32:25 | 0:32:28 | |
were wary of their gender bending ways. | 0:32:28 | 0:32:31 | |
But for the younger generation, | 0:32:31 | 0:32:33 | |
Ziggy Stardust was an exotic beacon of hope. | 0:32:33 | 0:32:37 | |
# Poor Jean Genie | 0:32:37 | 0:32:38 | |
# Snuck into the city | 0:32:38 | 0:32:40 | |
# Strung out on lasers | 0:32:40 | 0:32:42 | |
# And slash back blazers... # | 0:32:42 | 0:32:43 | |
It was the first thing that had appeared | 0:32:43 | 0:32:46 | |
on Top Of The Pops for years that your dad didn't like. | 0:32:46 | 0:32:51 | |
It was shocking and it was sexually ambiguous, | 0:32:52 | 0:32:55 | |
and he was thin and he was charismatic... | 0:32:55 | 0:32:59 | |
# Jean Genie loves chimney stacks | 0:32:59 | 0:33:02 | |
# He's outrageous He screams and he bawls | 0:33:02 | 0:33:06 | |
# Jean Genie, let yourself go... # | 0:33:06 | 0:33:09 | |
Rock music still had the power | 0:33:13 | 0:33:15 | |
to flaunt the gap between the generations. | 0:33:15 | 0:33:17 | |
And another potent new ingredient in the mix | 0:33:17 | 0:33:20 | |
had swaggered across the Atlantic in 1973 | 0:33:20 | 0:33:23 | |
in the form of the New York Dolls. | 0:33:23 | 0:33:26 | |
# Jet boys fly Jet boys gone | 0:33:26 | 0:33:28 | |
# Jet boys stole my baby... # | 0:33:28 | 0:33:31 | |
The New York Dolls appearing on Whistle Test, | 0:33:31 | 0:33:33 | |
that for me was like, | 0:33:33 | 0:33:34 | |
"Whoa, I'm not going to go to work in that fucking factory." | 0:33:34 | 0:33:37 | |
It was like, "Whoa! I want to be that." | 0:33:37 | 0:33:39 | |
# My baby... # | 0:33:39 | 0:33:45 | |
New York Dolls were the first band | 0:33:47 | 0:33:50 | |
to be insulted on The Old Grey Whistle Test. | 0:33:50 | 0:33:52 | |
An American group who are to the Stones | 0:33:52 | 0:33:54 | |
what The Monkees were to The Beatles | 0:33:54 | 0:33:56 | |
a pale and amusing derivative. | 0:33:56 | 0:34:00 | |
Bob Harris said afterwards, "Mock rock," | 0:34:00 | 0:34:02 | |
as though, "This is just a joke, we can't take this seriously." | 0:34:02 | 0:34:05 | |
Mock rock. | 0:34:10 | 0:34:11 | |
One man in particular begged to differ with Bob Harris. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:16 | |
By the mid '70s, Malcolm McLaren had begun to lose interest | 0:34:16 | 0:34:19 | |
in the Ted revival and the Dolls became his new obsession. | 0:34:19 | 0:34:23 | |
New York Dolls were in town and they went into Let It Rock | 0:34:25 | 0:34:29 | |
and Malcolm kind of fell in love with them. | 0:34:29 | 0:34:32 | |
He went to New York to manage them for a while, | 0:34:34 | 0:34:36 | |
and that all fell apart. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:37 | |
He came back and decided he'd do a UK band | 0:34:39 | 0:34:43 | |
that were confrontational and rocking in the same way. | 0:34:43 | 0:34:45 | |
In 1974, McLaren overhauled his Kings Road shop, Let It Rock. | 0:34:47 | 0:34:51 | |
Sex would be its provocative new name. | 0:34:51 | 0:34:55 | |
The new thing we decided to do was far more subversive | 0:34:55 | 0:34:59 | |
and far more overtly sexual for us, | 0:34:59 | 0:35:03 | |
and something that we felt we had suddenly arrived in the '70s. | 0:35:03 | 0:35:08 | |
Sex, and McLaren's British take on the Dolls, | 0:35:09 | 0:35:13 | |
would be fresh, new and shocking. | 0:35:13 | 0:35:16 | |
I used to go in there when it was Let It Rock, which was basically a second-hand Teddy Boy shop. | 0:35:16 | 0:35:21 | |
Then it was Sex, and Sex was a scary shop. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:23 | |
You wouldn't just go in Sex, it was rubber and leather, | 0:35:23 | 0:35:26 | |
and Jordan was in there and she was very intimidating. That was the idea of it. | 0:35:26 | 0:35:31 | |
Alongside Jordan, and in amongst the gimp masks, | 0:35:31 | 0:35:33 | |
was Saturday boy and aspiring rock star Glen Matlock. | 0:35:33 | 0:35:37 | |
The shop was at the wrong end of the Kings Road and it attracted | 0:35:42 | 0:35:45 | |
all these nut-case weirdos and Steve and Paul would come in as well. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:49 | |
I think it was to try and nick stuff and it was my job to stop them. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:53 | |
Steve Jones and Paul Cook also shared Glen's ambition | 0:35:53 | 0:35:57 | |
to form a band. | 0:35:57 | 0:35:59 | |
I guess we were looking for something | 0:35:59 | 0:36:01 | |
that kids like us could go and see, cos there was nothing like that. | 0:36:01 | 0:36:04 | |
There was a kind of pub rock scene going around at the time, | 0:36:04 | 0:36:08 | |
which was the only thing happening | 0:36:08 | 0:36:10 | |
and we thought we could jump in on the back of that | 0:36:10 | 0:36:13 | |
and make our own scene, if you like. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:15 | |
Encouraged by McLaren, | 0:36:15 | 0:36:17 | |
keen to extend his new brand to the music business, | 0:36:17 | 0:36:21 | |
all they needed now was a frontman. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:23 | |
Everybody had long hair - | 0:36:24 | 0:36:25 | |
your bank manager, your milkman, they had long hair, | 0:36:25 | 0:36:28 | |
slightly over the ears, and flared trousers. | 0:36:28 | 0:36:31 | |
If we saw somebody in the street who had short hair and tight trousers | 0:36:31 | 0:36:34 | |
we would just say, "Do you fancy yourself as a singer?" | 0:36:34 | 0:36:36 | |
Up until that point of joining the Pistols, | 0:36:36 | 0:36:39 | |
I'd never even conceived of singing. | 0:36:39 | 0:36:42 | |
So unsinging became kind of oddly enough | 0:36:42 | 0:36:46 | |
the most appropriate approach to the Pistols. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:49 | |
We invited him back to audition in front of the jukebox | 0:36:49 | 0:36:53 | |
and we put a couple of records on, | 0:36:53 | 0:36:55 | |
one of them being Eighteen by Alice Cooper. | 0:36:55 | 0:36:58 | |
He liked Alice Cooper. He just sort of took the piss out of it, | 0:36:58 | 0:37:02 | |
but the way he took the piss out of it, | 0:37:02 | 0:37:04 | |
there was something about him. | 0:37:04 | 0:37:06 | |
In 19-year-old John Lydon | 0:37:06 | 0:37:08 | |
the fledgling Sex Pistols had happened upon a kind of visionary. | 0:37:08 | 0:37:12 | |
He shared their interest in music, | 0:37:12 | 0:37:14 | |
but also had a burning desire to tell the truth of his generation. | 0:37:14 | 0:37:18 | |
I couldn't play an instrument, | 0:37:18 | 0:37:20 | |
so the boys were great there. | 0:37:20 | 0:37:22 | |
But they couldn't actually write songs, any of them. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:25 | |
If they were going be the songwriters in that respect, | 0:37:25 | 0:37:29 | |
it would end up being versions of other things | 0:37:29 | 0:37:32 | |
and Johnny came in with a completely different attitude to that. | 0:37:32 | 0:37:36 | |
There was a bit of tension about that, | 0:37:36 | 0:37:39 | |
but I think I proved my point. | 0:37:39 | 0:37:42 | |
You know, the written word, you know, | 0:37:42 | 0:37:44 | |
it's an incredibly important thing | 0:37:44 | 0:37:47 | |
and I think up until the Sex Pistols, everything was a lie. | 0:37:47 | 0:37:51 | |
Alongside Johnny Rotten, | 0:37:58 | 0:38:00 | |
one other man would become known as the voice of the punk generation. | 0:38:00 | 0:38:05 | |
But in 1975, Joe Strummer was just one member | 0:38:05 | 0:38:08 | |
in a band of refusenik post-hippies | 0:38:08 | 0:38:10 | |
taking refuge from '70s Britain in a West London squat. | 0:38:10 | 0:38:15 | |
# Johnny is a wanderer tied to a guitar | 0:38:15 | 0:38:18 | |
# Thinks he's going to change the world... # | 0:38:18 | 0:38:22 | |
There wasn't much money about | 0:38:22 | 0:38:23 | |
and a lot of people just needed a place to live, very much like today! | 0:38:23 | 0:38:26 | |
The 101ers was a squatting band. They came from the squatters. | 0:38:30 | 0:38:36 | |
It was named, not after the George Orwell room, | 0:38:36 | 0:38:38 | |
but 101 Walterton Road where they were squatting. | 0:38:38 | 0:38:42 | |
# Johnny had a temperature Saw a pretty face | 0:38:42 | 0:38:46 | |
# Tried to walk it on a lead | 0:38:46 | 0:38:49 | |
# Counted out his money, Charged them to his health... | 0:38:50 | 0:38:54 | |
I think the seeds of what we would now term punk mentality | 0:38:54 | 0:38:58 | |
were there in that house. | 0:38:58 | 0:39:00 | |
You know, you could be on your way to the kitchen | 0:39:00 | 0:39:05 | |
and suddenly become the bass player. | 0:39:05 | 0:39:08 | |
Having started out playing for the amusement of their fellow squatters, | 0:39:16 | 0:39:20 | |
the 101ers soon graduated to their local pub, The Elgin in Ladbroke Grove. | 0:39:20 | 0:39:25 | |
At the time the 101ers still had their goal - | 0:39:25 | 0:39:30 | |
being a band like the Feelgoods | 0:39:30 | 0:39:33 | |
and being one of the, if you like, top pub rock bands. | 0:39:33 | 0:39:40 | |
Almost overnight, this modest ambition was realised | 0:39:47 | 0:39:50 | |
and it was the lead singer Joe Strummer | 0:39:50 | 0:39:52 | |
and his high octane performance that people came out to see. | 0:39:52 | 0:39:55 | |
You came into the store and said, | 0:39:56 | 0:39:58 | |
"Saw this band at Dingwalls last night. | 0:39:58 | 0:40:00 | |
"The lead singer's an absolute star. We've got to do something with them." | 0:40:00 | 0:40:04 | |
And so, we then, a couple of nights later, went out. | 0:40:04 | 0:40:06 | |
-Remember it was one of those student gigs...? -South London. -Barely a stage. | 0:40:06 | 0:40:10 | |
He played like he was playing in front of 20,000 people, you know? | 0:40:12 | 0:40:17 | |
The guy's energy was just ferocious. | 0:40:17 | 0:40:19 | |
Watching him, he was like amphetamine person, | 0:40:20 | 0:40:23 | |
just going completely crazy. | 0:40:23 | 0:40:25 | |
It was just like veins bulging out of the neck. | 0:40:25 | 0:40:28 | |
There was an anger there. | 0:40:28 | 0:40:30 | |
It was clear that Strummer's charisma and conviction were set to outgrow the 101ers. | 0:40:30 | 0:40:36 | |
One night at The Nashville, | 0:40:36 | 0:40:37 | |
a new support act would set him on his road to Damascus. | 0:40:37 | 0:40:42 | |
I was working with the 101ers and the next night, | 0:40:42 | 0:40:44 | |
they were playing The Nashville and the Sex Pistols were the support act. | 0:40:44 | 0:40:49 | |
I walked into Nashville | 0:40:49 | 0:40:51 | |
and I got to the back and Joe was watching the Sex Pistols. | 0:40:51 | 0:40:55 | |
I kind of felt this atmosphere when I walked in there, really different. | 0:40:59 | 0:41:04 | |
I remember putting my hand up like that and going to him, | 0:41:04 | 0:41:08 | |
"Do you feel that?" | 0:41:08 | 0:41:10 | |
And he went, "Yeah." I said, "There's something different in the air." | 0:41:10 | 0:41:14 | |
There was a magical time, from maybe the beginning of '76 | 0:41:14 | 0:41:18 | |
through to late '76, | 0:41:18 | 0:41:21 | |
where you genuinely felt something was going on. | 0:41:21 | 0:41:25 | |
You could feel something like punk coming. | 0:41:25 | 0:41:28 | |
You could feel a change coming. | 0:41:28 | 0:41:30 | |
You weren't quite sure what it was. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:32 | |
April, 1975. | 0:41:47 | 0:41:52 | |
The Americans evacuate Saigon. | 0:41:52 | 0:41:55 | |
For me, the end of the '60s. | 0:41:57 | 0:41:59 | |
Although it's 1975, Vietnam was the... | 0:41:59 | 0:42:03 | |
central rallying point of the 1960s. | 0:42:03 | 0:42:08 | |
It's what we protested against. | 0:42:08 | 0:42:09 | |
We went to Grosvenor Square, shook our fists. | 0:42:09 | 0:42:12 | |
It was Beatles and Stones, | 0:42:14 | 0:42:17 | |
Mick Jagger and Tariq Ali and Vanessa Redgrave. | 0:42:17 | 0:42:21 | |
We were angry about Vietnam. | 0:42:21 | 0:42:23 | |
Vietnam finished with the American surrender - sorry, guys - | 0:42:23 | 0:42:27 | |
in 1975, April, | 0:42:27 | 0:42:31 | |
evacuated by helicopter from the Embassy in Saigon. | 0:42:31 | 0:42:34 | |
November '75, a band called the Sex Pistols | 0:42:35 | 0:42:39 | |
did their first gig at St Martin's art school. | 0:42:39 | 0:42:43 | |
So somewhere between April and November | 0:42:43 | 0:42:47 | |
was where that generational baton was handed on. | 0:42:47 | 0:42:50 | |
Richard "Kid" Strange was the cosmic leader | 0:42:52 | 0:42:55 | |
of psychedelic proto-punks, the Doctors Of Madness. | 0:42:55 | 0:42:58 | |
They had many of the hallmarks of what became punk | 0:43:02 | 0:43:04 | |
and were on the road to success by 1976. | 0:43:04 | 0:43:07 | |
We got a call from our agent, this must have been May, '76, | 0:43:09 | 0:43:12 | |
saying, "There's a band you might have heard of, they've caused a bit of trouble. | 0:43:12 | 0:43:15 | |
"You know who I'm going to say. It's the Sex Pistols. | 0:43:15 | 0:43:19 | |
"They want to support you. Is that OK?" | 0:43:19 | 0:43:21 | |
I thought, "Yeah, fine, bring it on," you know. | 0:43:21 | 0:43:23 | |
We arrived and the Pistols were sitting in the auditorium. | 0:43:27 | 0:43:31 | |
They were naughty, but not excessively so. | 0:43:31 | 0:43:33 | |
They looked like they were kids bunking off school, you know? | 0:43:33 | 0:43:36 | |
They were that bit younger than us. | 0:43:36 | 0:43:39 | |
We'd sort of been led to believe that they might be armed, you know! | 0:43:39 | 0:43:43 | |
As harmless as they may have appeared, | 0:43:46 | 0:43:48 | |
the Pistols were armed with something so violently new | 0:43:48 | 0:43:53 | |
that any act with so much as a whiff of the old regime about them | 0:43:53 | 0:43:56 | |
could now consider themselves the enemy. | 0:43:56 | 0:44:00 | |
They opened the show and I was watching from the wings | 0:44:00 | 0:44:02 | |
and I thought, "It's all over for us." | 0:44:02 | 0:44:05 | |
The reaction that they garnered was just extraordinary - | 0:44:11 | 0:44:15 | |
devotion to the point of evangelical prostration in front of the stage. | 0:44:15 | 0:44:21 | |
# We're so pretty | 0:44:23 | 0:44:24 | |
# Oh, so pretty... # | 0:44:24 | 0:44:26 | |
Or, "What is this abomination? It's not music." You know? | 0:44:26 | 0:44:30 | |
And, of course, in a way, that was the point. | 0:44:30 | 0:44:33 | |
It was much better than music, it was something to upset your parents. | 0:44:33 | 0:44:37 | |
# We're so pretty Oh, so pretty | 0:44:37 | 0:44:40 | |
# Vacant... # | 0:44:40 | 0:44:43 | |
You just thought... | 0:44:43 | 0:44:45 | |
"I'm two years too old." | 0:44:45 | 0:44:47 | |
And then, to compound the whole thing, | 0:44:50 | 0:44:53 | |
by the time we came off and got back into the dressing room, | 0:44:53 | 0:44:56 | |
the Pistols had been through our pockets and nicked our money as well! | 0:44:56 | 0:45:00 | |
# And we don't care. # | 0:45:00 | 0:45:05 | |
Punk's time had come. | 0:45:05 | 0:45:07 | |
The iceberg had cometh | 0:45:07 | 0:45:09 | |
as Britain basked in record temperatures in the summer of '76. | 0:45:09 | 0:45:13 | |
Its roots run deep and a diverse cast had played their part in setting the scene, | 0:45:13 | 0:45:18 | |
but British punk's true birth, | 0:45:18 | 0:45:20 | |
the spawning of this visceral, ugly, enticing beast | 0:45:20 | 0:45:25 | |
to be loved or hated but impossible to ignore | 0:45:25 | 0:45:28 | |
can only be traced to your first time - | 0:45:28 | 0:45:30 | |
the first time you saw the Sex Pistols. | 0:45:30 | 0:45:35 | |
These four characters stumbled onto the stage | 0:45:35 | 0:45:38 | |
and they played these songs | 0:45:38 | 0:45:41 | |
and they were just like nothing else I've ever seen or heard before. | 0:45:41 | 0:45:45 | |
Wow. They played a Stooges song, they played No Fun, | 0:45:45 | 0:45:48 | |
and they played Watcha Gonna Do About It, | 0:45:48 | 0:45:51 | |
the old Small Faces song, but instead of, | 0:45:51 | 0:45:52 | |
"I want you to know that I love you, baby," it was, | 0:45:52 | 0:45:55 | |
"I want you to know that I fucking hate you, baby." | 0:45:55 | 0:45:57 | |
I thought, "That is cool." | 0:45:57 | 0:45:58 | |
Actually, they were sort of...very beautiful. | 0:45:58 | 0:46:02 | |
They were like fairies, really. | 0:46:02 | 0:46:05 | |
Fuck me. It's the only language I can use. | 0:46:05 | 0:46:08 | |
I mean, it was a cultural ground zero. | 0:46:08 | 0:46:10 | |
You know, the sort of fairies at the bottom of one's garden. And young. | 0:46:10 | 0:46:15 | |
I mean, I actually couldn't hear what John was singing | 0:46:15 | 0:46:19 | |
but there was an energy and an intensity that you could not deny. | 0:46:19 | 0:46:22 | |
What was so different about the Sex Pistols early on | 0:46:25 | 0:46:27 | |
was they were quite aggressive to the audience. | 0:46:27 | 0:46:30 | |
It was the eyes, it was just the eyes, looking at the audience. | 0:46:30 | 0:46:33 | |
He'd look at them with such hatred. | 0:46:33 | 0:46:35 | |
He was sat there, scowling, and I felt really drawn to that. | 0:46:35 | 0:46:40 | |
I just loved the contradiction and I just had never seen anything like it. | 0:46:40 | 0:46:46 | |
It just inspired me to leave college, | 0:46:46 | 0:46:49 | |
split up with my missus and go for it. | 0:46:49 | 0:46:52 | |
It was an event. Not so much a musical event, but a cultural event. | 0:46:52 | 0:46:57 | |
Even then, you could see this was different, this was important. | 0:46:57 | 0:47:00 | |
The electrifying message of the Pistols was spreading fast | 0:47:00 | 0:47:04 | |
and Johnny Rotten was becoming the oracle of the punk generation. | 0:47:04 | 0:47:09 | |
I knew that it would catch on | 0:47:09 | 0:47:10 | |
because I knew the minute I saw Johnny Rotten | 0:47:10 | 0:47:13 | |
that he was exactly the kind of poetic figure | 0:47:13 | 0:47:18 | |
that was going to inspire a whole generation of kids. | 0:47:18 | 0:47:21 | |
The word "punk" is as old as Shakespeare. | 0:47:21 | 0:47:24 | |
Although I knew that none of the musicians of that generation | 0:47:24 | 0:47:28 | |
would particularly like to be called punks, | 0:47:28 | 0:47:30 | |
when you're spreading the word | 0:47:30 | 0:47:33 | |
and writing it down, you had to have this term. | 0:47:33 | 0:47:36 | |
Suddenly, Caroline Coon labels the Sex Pistols punk | 0:47:36 | 0:47:40 | |
and me the king of punk. | 0:47:40 | 0:47:42 | |
King Johnny went forth to address his subjects | 0:47:43 | 0:47:47 | |
and declared war on his enemies. | 0:47:47 | 0:47:49 | |
-What's this thing you've got against hippies? -They're complacent. | 0:47:49 | 0:47:52 | |
We're not supposed to know nothing, us. | 0:47:52 | 0:47:55 | |
But it's them what did not know a thing. How ludicrous! | 0:47:56 | 0:48:00 | |
And that was their revolution, you know, | 0:48:00 | 0:48:03 | |
they were the hangovers from the '60s. | 0:48:03 | 0:48:05 | |
I always knew the '60s wasn't a revolution. | 0:48:05 | 0:48:08 | |
It really just was a bunch of university students, | 0:48:08 | 0:48:11 | |
with somewhat wealthy parents, having fun. | 0:48:11 | 0:48:14 | |
Condemned for their lack of ambition, | 0:48:16 | 0:48:18 | |
overnight, the long-haired older brothers of Britain, | 0:48:18 | 0:48:21 | |
including those pioneering pub rockers, were yesterday's men. | 0:48:21 | 0:48:25 | |
The Pistols inspired their generation | 0:48:25 | 0:48:27 | |
to write their own future. | 0:48:27 | 0:48:30 | |
You wanted to get involved, man. You didn't want to be just a fan. | 0:48:30 | 0:48:34 | |
And it was about that kind of empowerment and reinventing yourself. | 0:48:34 | 0:48:37 | |
I mean, Strummer told me as much. | 0:48:37 | 0:48:40 | |
He said after he saw the Pistols, | 0:48:40 | 0:48:42 | |
101ers was like yesterday's newspaper. | 0:48:42 | 0:48:44 | |
Joe Strummer had been courted | 0:48:44 | 0:48:46 | |
by guitarist Mick Jones on the hunt for a lead singer for his new band. | 0:48:46 | 0:48:51 | |
Struck by the Sex Pistols, Strummer realised he was, in fact, | 0:48:51 | 0:48:54 | |
a punk trapped in an pub rock band. | 0:48:54 | 0:48:58 | |
He ditched the 101ers, jumped a generation | 0:48:58 | 0:49:01 | |
and signed up to The Clash. | 0:49:01 | 0:49:03 | |
In those days, it was very quick. | 0:49:03 | 0:49:05 | |
You'd be in a group for two weeks | 0:49:05 | 0:49:07 | |
and then you wouldn't again, or you may be. | 0:49:07 | 0:49:10 | |
-Sounds like a load of shit. -Sounds great to me. | 0:49:10 | 0:49:13 | |
'I think you're really lucky' | 0:49:13 | 0:49:15 | |
if you find the right people, you know what I mean? | 0:49:15 | 0:49:19 | |
Then it just becomes more than just the individual, | 0:49:19 | 0:49:22 | |
it becomes the chemistry between... | 0:49:22 | 0:49:25 | |
You're very lucky to find that, the right people and the right time. | 0:49:25 | 0:49:29 | |
It comes along once in a while. | 0:49:29 | 0:49:32 | |
We didn't have any agenda, real agenda, it was just like, | 0:49:32 | 0:49:35 | |
we just want to play some tunes and have a good time, you know. | 0:49:35 | 0:49:39 | |
-The Clash didn't have an agenda? -Well, I didn't. | 0:49:39 | 0:49:42 | |
I mustn't speak for the others. | 0:49:42 | 0:49:44 | |
-What sort of things do you write about? -What's going on at the moment. | 0:49:52 | 0:49:56 | |
Like what? | 0:49:56 | 0:49:57 | |
Like what? Career opportunities. | 0:49:57 | 0:50:01 | |
They're sort of like... | 0:50:01 | 0:50:02 | |
all the kids are supposed to be like factory fodder, you know? | 0:50:02 | 0:50:05 | |
You don't learn nothing. All you're working for | 0:50:05 | 0:50:07 | |
is just to go into a factory | 0:50:07 | 0:50:09 | |
which is round the corner, or something like that. | 0:50:09 | 0:50:12 | |
# Police and thieves in the street... # | 0:50:12 | 0:50:17 | |
What the new generation did so successfully | 0:50:17 | 0:50:20 | |
was to create a new British identity | 0:50:20 | 0:50:25 | |
where artists as musicians | 0:50:25 | 0:50:26 | |
are writing about their own experience from the streets, | 0:50:26 | 0:50:30 | |
their own tragedies, their own splendours, | 0:50:30 | 0:50:34 | |
in an English, British voice. | 0:50:34 | 0:50:36 | |
# White riot I wanna riot | 0:50:45 | 0:50:47 | |
# White riot I wanna riot... # | 0:50:47 | 0:50:50 | |
-Tell me about White Riot, what's it about? -Notting Hill Gate. | 0:50:50 | 0:50:54 | |
You know that riot they had? We was down there, me and him. | 0:50:54 | 0:50:59 | |
And we got searched by policemen looking for bricks. | 0:51:02 | 0:51:06 | |
Later on we got searched by a Rasta | 0:51:09 | 0:51:11 | |
looking for pound notes in our pockets. | 0:51:11 | 0:51:14 | |
All we had was bricks and bottles! | 0:51:14 | 0:51:17 | |
# White riot I wanna riot... # | 0:51:17 | 0:51:19 | |
The Pistols and The Clash spearheaded the nascent punk movement | 0:51:19 | 0:51:22 | |
with a two-pronged insurgency aimed at the powers that be. | 0:51:22 | 0:51:26 | |
They tapped the mood of violence | 0:51:26 | 0:51:28 | |
simmering under the surface of boring '70s Britain | 0:51:28 | 0:51:31 | |
and would bear witness when it spilled over. | 0:51:31 | 0:51:34 | |
Without this conflict at its heart, | 0:51:34 | 0:51:37 | |
punk would have been little more than noisy pop music. | 0:51:37 | 0:51:40 | |
But almost as important in defining this new art form | 0:51:43 | 0:51:46 | |
was the chaotic and often comical theatrics | 0:51:46 | 0:51:48 | |
surrounding life in a fledgling punk band. | 0:51:48 | 0:51:53 | |
The Damned led the way in this department. | 0:51:53 | 0:51:56 | |
# A distant man can't sympathise | 0:52:03 | 0:52:05 | |
# He can't uphold his distant laws | 0:52:05 | 0:52:08 | |
# Due to form on that today | 0:52:08 | 0:52:10 | |
# I got a feeling then I hear this call | 0:52:10 | 0:52:13 | |
# I said neat, neat, neat She can't afford a cannon | 0:52:13 | 0:52:16 | |
# Neat, neat, neat She can't afford a gun... # | 0:52:16 | 0:52:18 | |
You had Vanian looking like some fucking vampire, | 0:52:18 | 0:52:21 | |
Captain, once he got called Captain, | 0:52:21 | 0:52:23 | |
he changed from being quite a meek Ray Burns | 0:52:23 | 0:52:26 | |
into this clown-cum-raving idiot, | 0:52:26 | 0:52:29 | |
where you didn't know what he was going to dress in next. | 0:52:29 | 0:52:31 | |
It could be a bloody tutu, | 0:52:31 | 0:52:32 | |
a ballerina's tutu, or a nurse's outfit, or whatever. | 0:52:32 | 0:52:36 | |
Yeah, I've always liked dressing up, it has to be said. | 0:52:36 | 0:52:39 | |
The back of the first album cover, I wore a nurse's uniform. | 0:52:39 | 0:52:43 | |
The funny thing was, I actually found I was quite enjoying wearing it. | 0:52:43 | 0:52:46 | |
# Neat, neat, neat She can't afford a cannon... # | 0:52:46 | 0:52:49 | |
It allowed everyone to live their fantasies, | 0:52:49 | 0:52:52 | |
which is a wonderful thing. | 0:52:52 | 0:52:53 | |
The Damned taught a generation that they weren't stuck with their lot. | 0:52:53 | 0:52:57 | |
They called themselves names and revelled in their grotesque image. | 0:52:57 | 0:53:01 | |
They WERE the damned. | 0:53:01 | 0:53:05 | |
Punk was reflecting the ugliness of Britain back at itself | 0:53:05 | 0:53:08 | |
and if you didn't get this, you'd be left behind. | 0:53:08 | 0:53:10 | |
What was marvellous about it all, what was so hilarious | 0:53:16 | 0:53:19 | |
was that, of course, the major record companies thought, | 0:53:19 | 0:53:22 | |
"This can't be real! This... What? | 0:53:22 | 0:53:24 | |
"We're going to have to put this music out shortly? | 0:53:24 | 0:53:27 | |
"What? This is going to be in the charts? | 0:53:27 | 0:53:29 | |
"I hate it, it's disgusting!" | 0:53:29 | 0:53:31 | |
It was said at the time | 0:53:31 | 0:53:32 | |
that you could hear the sound of record company executives' bodies | 0:53:32 | 0:53:36 | |
hitting the pavement from the high buildings. | 0:53:36 | 0:53:39 | |
Having transformed London's live music scene a few years earlier, | 0:53:44 | 0:53:48 | |
the entrepreneurs behind pub rock now saw an opportunity | 0:53:48 | 0:53:51 | |
to embrace and enable the punk generation. | 0:53:51 | 0:53:54 | |
Here is a musical movement. All these kids want to buy something. | 0:53:54 | 0:53:58 | |
They can buy a few one-off little bits | 0:53:58 | 0:54:01 | |
but they want to buy something big to show their badge of credibility. | 0:54:01 | 0:54:07 | |
Stiff put the records out quicker. | 0:54:07 | 0:54:09 | |
We were quicker, we were faster, we were brasher, | 0:54:09 | 0:54:11 | |
we were noisier and we were the best. | 0:54:11 | 0:54:14 | |
There was a real vibe to it. There was no big office for them, | 0:54:15 | 0:54:19 | |
they were just in an old shopfront on Alexander Street. | 0:54:19 | 0:54:22 | |
And it was like, everyone was bagging records and doing it - | 0:54:22 | 0:54:25 | |
everyone was mucking in doing stuff. | 0:54:25 | 0:54:27 | |
It had Nick Lowe as a house producer. | 0:54:27 | 0:54:31 | |
It had Dave and Jake, who knew how to market records | 0:54:31 | 0:54:35 | |
in an original, innovative way. | 0:54:35 | 0:54:37 | |
A band like The Damned was almost tailor-made for them, really. | 0:54:37 | 0:54:40 | |
Stiff signed The Damned in late '76 | 0:54:40 | 0:54:43 | |
and put them straight in the studio with house producer Nick Lowe, | 0:54:43 | 0:54:47 | |
of pub rockers Brinsley Schwarz fame. | 0:54:47 | 0:54:50 | |
I made quite a lot of records up there in that little place. | 0:54:51 | 0:54:54 | |
Occasionally - and I can think of on one hand - | 0:54:54 | 0:54:59 | |
we did something in there which you could not believe. | 0:54:59 | 0:55:02 | |
It was the first time I'd ever been in a recording studio. | 0:55:02 | 0:55:06 | |
I'd seen Let It Be and I thought, "This is going to be great." | 0:55:06 | 0:55:10 | |
And then we got into this sort of cupboard with a tape recorder. | 0:55:10 | 0:55:15 | |
What they created that day in those modest surroundings | 0:55:15 | 0:55:18 | |
would encapsulate the pure essence of punk | 0:55:18 | 0:55:21 | |
and become the very first punk single to be released in Britain. | 0:55:21 | 0:55:25 | |
We could not believe it. We could not believe it. | 0:55:25 | 0:55:28 | |
It seemed like it was almost unsettling. | 0:55:28 | 0:55:31 | |
It's a cracking riff, yeah, it's a cracking riff. Absolutely watertight. | 0:55:37 | 0:55:41 | |
He played it back and there was something that was just totally exciting. | 0:55:43 | 0:55:46 | |
It was like a genuine rush. | 0:55:46 | 0:55:49 | |
You know when you're walking out in the country somewhere | 0:55:49 | 0:55:52 | |
and suddenly an F1 jetfighter screams above you | 0:55:52 | 0:55:56 | |
and it just whaaaa... | 0:55:56 | 0:55:58 | |
# I got a feeling inside me | 0:56:10 | 0:56:13 | |
# It's kind of strange like a stormy sea... # | 0:56:13 | 0:56:15 | |
There's something so fundamental about it. | 0:56:15 | 0:56:18 | |
That's what made it startlingly original. | 0:56:18 | 0:56:21 | |
It's an ancient story somehow told in a brand-new way. | 0:56:21 | 0:56:26 | |
You've got to be made of bloomin' wood not be touched by it. | 0:56:26 | 0:56:32 | |
# I never thought this could happen to me | 0:56:32 | 0:56:37 | |
# Something strange Oh, what should it be? | 0:56:37 | 0:56:41 | |
Another first in true Stiff Records style | 0:56:41 | 0:56:44 | |
was the DIY filming of this video for New Rose | 0:56:44 | 0:56:47 | |
at the bastion of pub rock, The Hope & Anchor, | 0:56:47 | 0:56:50 | |
drawing a direct line to punk's humble roots. | 0:56:50 | 0:56:53 | |
I mean, that was two run-throughs | 0:56:57 | 0:56:59 | |
with a camera at two different angles, | 0:56:59 | 0:57:01 | |
maybe three, and that was it. | 0:57:01 | 0:57:04 | |
Edited that night and we had the video in the morning. | 0:57:04 | 0:57:06 | |
# I've got a new rose I've got her good | 0:57:06 | 0:57:09 | |
# Guess I knew that I always would... # | 0:57:09 | 0:57:12 | |
People have asked me over the years, "What's New Rose about? | 0:57:12 | 0:57:15 | |
"Is it like a love story?" | 0:57:15 | 0:57:17 | |
I've got a feeling that it's probably, as much as anything, | 0:57:17 | 0:57:21 | |
about what was happening with the punk scene. | 0:57:21 | 0:57:25 | |
The New Rose was this developing thing. | 0:57:25 | 0:57:28 | |
I've never been that much into lyrics, | 0:57:32 | 0:57:34 | |
I'm more of a guitar player, you know. | 0:57:34 | 0:57:36 | |
The same month The Damned's New Rose was released, | 0:57:36 | 0:57:40 | |
the Sex Pistols inked a deal with music business old farts, EMI. | 0:57:40 | 0:57:45 | |
And their debut signal, Anarchy In The UK, | 0:57:45 | 0:57:48 | |
hit the streets in November '76. | 0:57:48 | 0:57:51 | |
It was time for punk to go above ground | 0:57:51 | 0:57:53 | |
and into direct contact with those it was designed to offend. | 0:57:53 | 0:57:57 | |
I've done everything humanly possible to ban this thing and to stop it. | 0:57:57 | 0:58:03 | |
1977, the year of punk, was just around the corner. | 0:58:03 | 0:58:08 | |
Go on, you've got another five seconds. Say something outrageous. | 0:58:08 | 0:58:12 | |
-You dirty bastard. -Go on, again. -You dirty fucker. | 0:58:12 | 0:58:15 | |
-What a clever boy(!) -What a fucking rotter. | 0:58:15 | 0:58:17 | |
Well, that's it for tonight. | 0:58:17 | 0:58:19 | |
# I am an antichrist | 0:58:19 | 0:58:23 | |
# I am an anarchist | 0:58:23 | 0:58:27 | |
# Don't know what I want But I know how to get it | 0:58:27 | 0:58:30 | |
# I wanna destroy the passer-by | 0:58:30 | 0:58:34 | |
# Cos I wanna be | 0:58:34 | 0:58:40 | |
# Anarchy... # | 0:58:40 | 0:58:44 | |
Subtitles by Red Bee Media Ltd | 0:58:44 | 0:58:47 |