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MUSIC: Summer Wind by Frank Sinatra | 0:00:05 | 0:00:08 | |
TV: Frank Sinatra dead tonight at the age of 82, | 0:00:08 | 0:00:10 | |
which brought to an end a remarkable life | 0:00:10 | 0:00:12 | |
that was on one kind of stage or another for six decades. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:15 | |
An idol of mine and millions. And a great Italian-American, | 0:00:15 | 0:00:18 | |
a great American. And a great actor, by the way. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:21 | |
I think every American would have to smile | 0:00:22 | 0:00:24 | |
and say he really did do it his way. | 0:00:24 | 0:00:26 | |
They dimmed the lights on the Vegas strip in his honour. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:29 | |
Here, and in dozens of cities across the country, | 0:00:30 | 0:00:32 | |
radio stations have been playing nothing but Sinatra. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:35 | |
VINYL CRACKLES | 0:00:39 | 0:00:41 | |
MUSIC: One For My Baby by Frank Sinatra | 0:00:41 | 0:00:43 | |
IN FRENCH: | 0:00:45 | 0:00:47 | |
# It's quarter to three | 0:00:55 | 0:00:57 | |
# There's no-one in the place | 0:00:58 | 0:01:01 | |
# 'Cept you and me | 0:01:02 | 0:01:04 | |
# So set 'em up, Joe | 0:01:09 | 0:01:11 | |
# I got a little story | 0:01:12 | 0:01:14 | |
# I think you should know... # | 0:01:16 | 0:01:18 | |
My first recollection of Frank's voice was coming out of a jukebox, | 0:01:19 | 0:01:24 | |
it was in a dark bar on a Sunday afternoon, | 0:01:24 | 0:01:26 | |
when my mother and I went in searching for my father. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:29 | |
And, er, she said... | 0:01:29 | 0:01:31 | |
I will always remember, she said, "Listen to that. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:34 | |
"That's Frank Sinatra. He's from New Jersey." | 0:01:34 | 0:01:37 | |
# Make it one for my baby... # | 0:01:37 | 0:01:41 | |
And while his music became synonymous with black tie, | 0:01:41 | 0:01:45 | |
the good life, best booze, women, sophistication, | 0:01:45 | 0:01:49 | |
it was the deep blueness of Frank's voice that affected me the most. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:53 | |
# I got the routine... # | 0:01:53 | 0:01:55 | |
He was the poet laureate of loneliness. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:59 | |
His songs were haunted by it. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:01 | |
For all his fame, he loved solitude. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:05 | |
# Feeling so bad... # | 0:02:07 | 0:02:10 | |
We don't know what he thought about his own life, | 0:02:10 | 0:02:12 | |
because he never wrote it down in a book, | 0:02:12 | 0:02:14 | |
but there was one mysterious moment when he gave us all a clue. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:18 | |
It was when, at the very peak of his career, | 0:02:18 | 0:02:20 | |
he suddenly decided to retire. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:22 | |
# I could tell you a lot | 0:02:22 | 0:02:25 | |
# But you've gotta be | 0:02:27 | 0:02:29 | |
# True to your code... # | 0:02:30 | 0:02:34 | |
The beginning of March that year, | 0:02:34 | 0:02:36 | |
I was working somewhere in Florida, | 0:02:36 | 0:02:38 | |
and he called me and he said, "I think I'm going to hang it up." | 0:02:38 | 0:02:42 | |
One afternoon, by the pool, | 0:02:43 | 0:02:46 | |
Dad was, with his black flair pen, | 0:02:46 | 0:02:49 | |
making his music list, his song list. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:53 | |
He never showed the set list to anybody. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:57 | |
But in the run-up to the show, | 0:02:58 | 0:03:00 | |
at the Ahmanson Theatre in Los Angeles, | 0:03:00 | 0:03:02 | |
he must have been thinking about it. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:04 | |
11 songs to tell the story of a life. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:07 | |
Ladies and gentlemen... | 0:03:10 | 0:03:11 | |
Frank Sinatra. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:13 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:03:13 | 0:03:15 | |
MUSIC: All Or Nothing At All | 0:03:22 | 0:03:24 | |
And this was the beginning. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:29 | |
# All or nothing at all... # | 0:03:32 | 0:03:35 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:03:35 | 0:03:36 | |
# Half a love | 0:03:38 | 0:03:39 | |
# Never appealed to me... # | 0:03:40 | 0:03:42 | |
The night itself was star-studded, and exciting and... | 0:03:45 | 0:03:49 | |
Sad, and... | 0:03:51 | 0:03:53 | |
A lot of mixed emotions. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:55 | |
# All or nothing at all | 0:03:56 | 0:04:01 | |
# If it's love there ain't no in-between | 0:04:03 | 0:04:07 | |
# Why begin and stop something that might... # | 0:04:09 | 0:04:12 | |
What startled me about that film | 0:04:12 | 0:04:14 | |
was that it has that rough, hand-held look to it, | 0:04:14 | 0:04:17 | |
and how appropriate that it should be at this particular event | 0:04:17 | 0:04:21 | |
that we don't see the concert film of Sinatra, | 0:04:21 | 0:04:24 | |
where everything is perfectly controlled. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:27 | |
# Don't smile I'll be lost beyond recall | 0:04:27 | 0:04:32 | |
# The kiss in your eyes, the touch of your hand... # | 0:04:34 | 0:04:36 | |
You can hear the guy backstage kicking the cord | 0:04:36 | 0:04:39 | |
out of the socket, and suddenly the mic goes bad. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:42 | |
# ..dizzy at all... # | 0:04:42 | 0:04:43 | |
MAIN MIC DROPS OUT | 0:04:43 | 0:04:46 | |
People holding those cameras were as swept up | 0:04:46 | 0:04:49 | |
in the moment as everybody in the audience, | 0:04:49 | 0:04:51 | |
and people on stage, the orchestra, Sinatra himself. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:54 | |
They knew this was the end of the line for this great artist. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:58 | |
# So, you see | 0:04:59 | 0:05:01 | |
# I've got to say no... | 0:05:01 | 0:05:03 | |
# No... # | 0:05:04 | 0:05:05 | |
These were some of the milestone points | 0:05:05 | 0:05:09 | |
in his career, musically. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:11 | |
# All... | 0:05:11 | 0:05:13 | |
# Or nothing at all. # | 0:05:13 | 0:05:18 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:05:27 | 0:05:29 | |
Going back to the very beginning, | 0:05:31 | 0:05:32 | |
there has been conflicting stories about your childhood in Hoboken | 0:05:32 | 0:05:38 | |
quoted by people who've done interviews with you. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:41 | |
There's this kind of general version of the... | 0:05:41 | 0:05:44 | |
your slum conditions, in Hoboken, | 0:05:44 | 0:05:47 | |
and then there are others. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:49 | |
There was an article some years ago by a very good magazine writer | 0:05:49 | 0:05:53 | |
who said this isn't so. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:55 | |
All the toys you needed, | 0:05:55 | 0:05:56 | |
that you even had a Chrysler at the age of 15. | 0:05:56 | 0:05:58 | |
Most of the... | 0:05:58 | 0:06:00 | |
of the biographies I've read or articles I've read... | 0:06:00 | 0:06:04 | |
HE COUGHS | 0:06:04 | 0:06:05 | |
Pardon me. ..about my young days, or my childhood, | 0:06:05 | 0:06:08 | |
were rather dreamed up, rather fictitious. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:12 | |
I've read many of them, | 0:06:12 | 0:06:13 | |
and I've said to myself I don't remember this, | 0:06:13 | 0:06:15 | |
this is really strange. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:16 | |
# The mist on the meadow | 0:06:16 | 0:06:20 | |
# Is drifting away... # | 0:06:21 | 0:06:22 | |
I was born on in 1915, on December 12, and I weighed 12 and 3/4 pounds, | 0:06:22 | 0:06:28 | |
and when I was removed from her womb, by a midwife, there was a problem. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:33 | |
I didn't want to come out of there. LAUGHTER | 0:06:33 | 0:06:35 | |
And they... | 0:06:36 | 0:06:38 | |
Funny, they sent up a flare for a doctor, | 0:06:38 | 0:06:41 | |
and upon removing me, | 0:06:41 | 0:06:42 | |
I was pretty well damaged on the left side of my neck and ear and face, | 0:06:42 | 0:06:47 | |
and my grandmother... | 0:06:47 | 0:06:48 | |
..who had more sense than anybody in the room, | 0:06:49 | 0:06:52 | |
as far as I'm concerned because... LAUGHTER | 0:06:52 | 0:06:55 | |
..she knew what to do with me. | 0:06:55 | 0:06:58 | |
And she stuck me under the ice-cold water in a cold-water flat. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
And apparently got some blood moving around, | 0:07:02 | 0:07:05 | |
whacked me around a little bit. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:07 | |
And I have blessed that day, that moment, in her honour, ever since. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:14 | |
-Hi. -Yes, dear. -I've been able to contact Mr and Mrs Martin Sinatra. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:17 | |
-Hello, Mrs Sinatra? -Hello? | 0:07:17 | 0:07:19 | |
Yes, Mr Gardner, just one moment. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:21 | |
-Hello, Mrs Sinatra. -Hello, Mr Gardner. | 0:07:21 | 0:07:22 | |
It's awfully nice to talk to you, | 0:07:22 | 0:07:24 | |
and to have you come to the phone. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:26 | |
I know the last time Frank was in town, | 0:07:26 | 0:07:28 | |
you weren't feeling very well, and...you're fully recovered now? | 0:07:28 | 0:07:31 | |
Well, yes, I feel pretty well, now. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:34 | |
And Frank called me, only recently, while I was in the hospital... | 0:07:34 | 0:07:40 | |
# Fools rush in | 0:07:40 | 0:07:43 | |
# Where angels fear to tread... # | 0:07:43 | 0:07:46 | |
I was the only child. And she was tough on me. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:50 | |
-I mean, she was very strict with me. -Yeah. -Always strict. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:53 | |
She told me to stay away from the railroad tracks because a kid, | 0:07:53 | 0:07:56 | |
one time, one day, a kid lost an arm, | 0:07:56 | 0:07:58 | |
about three years later, another guy, a little guy lost his leg. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:01 | |
And if she found out that I was down there, at the railroad tracks, | 0:08:01 | 0:08:04 | |
she'd whack me around, out of fear. Out of fear. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:07 | |
# Then I don't care... # | 0:08:08 | 0:08:10 | |
I think the first thing that I was ever conscious of was | 0:08:10 | 0:08:12 | |
the drive that she had all the time. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:14 | |
Her constant seeking was to do better, | 0:08:14 | 0:08:18 | |
to constantly do better. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:19 | |
Dolly Sinatra was an earth mother. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:23 | |
Everybody became her son, her daughter, | 0:08:23 | 0:08:25 | |
everybody's problems became her problems. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
And that went from psychological problems to physical problems. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:31 | |
Grandma had become a midwife, in her neighbourhood. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:37 | |
When there were families with children | 0:08:37 | 0:08:39 | |
they couldn't afford to feed, | 0:08:39 | 0:08:41 | |
then was it right to bring another child into that neediness? | 0:08:41 | 0:08:46 | |
And she was a good Catholic, | 0:08:46 | 0:08:49 | |
I don't think she thought that abortion was a great thing, | 0:08:49 | 0:08:53 | |
but I think in those days, in that depression, it was necessity. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:58 | |
She did what needed to be done. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:00 | |
My father was withdrawn, he was a shy man. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:04 | |
He spoke perfect English, but he couldn't put words together, | 0:09:04 | 0:09:08 | |
he was still at these, thems and those. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:10 | |
Remember that he had to be intimidated by mother's... | 0:09:10 | 0:09:13 | |
innate knowledge. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:15 | |
Because she was innately bright, my mother was. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:17 | |
They both came over... | 0:09:19 | 0:09:21 | |
Different families came over, they came into Ellis Island. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:24 | |
One from Catania, the other from Genoa. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:27 | |
The Genovese were the original bankers. They were lawyers. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:31 | |
And she used to say to me, "I think that I'm half Italian, half Jew." | 0:09:31 | 0:09:34 | |
I said, "Maybe you are, Ma." She said, "Well, I'm smart." | 0:09:34 | 0:09:37 | |
She said, "That's where they came. Where I came from." | 0:09:37 | 0:09:39 | |
And consequently, she succeeded, | 0:09:41 | 0:09:43 | |
she made her way in life, | 0:09:43 | 0:09:44 | |
she did very well, considering. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:46 | |
MUSIC: I've Got Rhythm by George Gershwin | 0:09:48 | 0:09:50 | |
When Sinatra was young, | 0:09:51 | 0:09:53 | |
being an Italian-American was being the object of bigotry. | 0:09:53 | 0:09:56 | |
You were part of a minority group. | 0:09:56 | 0:09:58 | |
One that was stereotyped as being either comical and absurd, | 0:09:58 | 0:10:03 | |
the organ grinder with the monkey, | 0:10:03 | 0:10:05 | |
or dangerous and threatening, | 0:10:05 | 0:10:07 | |
the guy with the submachine gun. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:09 | |
And of course Sinatra, growing up where he did, | 0:10:11 | 0:10:14 | |
when he did, | 0:10:14 | 0:10:15 | |
understood that that guy with the machinegun was real. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:18 | |
My father, at the time, was rarely at home, | 0:10:20 | 0:10:23 | |
because he was a protector for the bootlegging trucks. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:26 | |
They used to have a car that would follow the truck, | 0:10:26 | 0:10:28 | |
so it wouldn't get hijacked. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:29 | |
During Prohibition, my grandfather had taken a job | 0:10:29 | 0:10:33 | |
as a lookout on a truck that carried 90 proof contraband. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:37 | |
And apparently the truck was hijacked by a rival gang mob, | 0:10:38 | 0:10:42 | |
and he didn't duck fast enough, and somebody hit him on the head, | 0:10:42 | 0:10:45 | |
and he had a skull fracture, and he was bleeding everywhere, | 0:10:45 | 0:10:48 | |
and my father, as a little boy, woke up and saw this. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:51 | |
# Who could ask for anything more? | 0:10:51 | 0:10:53 | |
# Who could ask for anything more? # | 0:10:53 | 0:10:55 | |
In those days there were sayings. | 0:10:56 | 0:10:58 | |
In order to be an attorney, or an accountant, you had to be a Jew. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
In order to be a singer, you had to be an Italian. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:04 | |
In order to be a prize fighter, you had to be Irish, | 0:11:04 | 0:11:06 | |
which is why he took the name Marty O'Brien. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:09 | |
I was about eight or nine years old. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:16 | |
The old man opened a saloon, | 0:11:17 | 0:11:18 | |
it was called Marty O'Brien's Bar. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:21 | |
The bar that they ran, they didn't run it as the Sinatras, | 0:11:21 | 0:11:25 | |
they took an Irish name. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:27 | |
Because the Italians were lower than the Irish, in Hoboken, right. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:31 | |
Dolly. He said she was the kind of woman | 0:11:31 | 0:11:34 | |
who kept a little club behind the bar. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:37 | |
If somebody gave her some shit, | 0:11:37 | 0:11:39 | |
she hit him with a club, | 0:11:39 | 0:11:41 | |
put it under the bar, and kept talking. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:43 | |
They had, in the bar, a piano with a roll in it. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:49 | |
You put a nickel in it, it would play the songs. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:52 | |
And occasionally one of the men in the bar would pick me up | 0:11:52 | 0:11:55 | |
and put me up on the piano and I'd sing with the roll. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:57 | |
And it was a horrendous voice, terrible, I mean, like a siren. | 0:11:57 | 0:12:01 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:12:01 | 0:12:02 | |
You know... | 0:12:02 | 0:12:03 | |
HIGH AND STRAINED: # Honest and truly, I'm in love with you! # | 0:12:03 | 0:12:06 | |
Way up there like that. LAUGHTER | 0:12:06 | 0:12:08 | |
It's a wonder I ever got anywhere, starting that way, is what kills me. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:13 | |
HE COUGHS So... | 0:12:14 | 0:12:16 | |
one day, I got a nickel. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:19 | |
Or a dime, whatever it was, and I said... | 0:12:19 | 0:12:21 | |
This is the racket. This is what you got to be doing. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:25 | |
MUSIC: Boulevard Of Broken Dreams by Ted Weems | 0:12:25 | 0:12:29 | |
In my hometown the city was, as I said, | 0:12:32 | 0:12:34 | |
the square mile was almost divided in quarters. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:37 | |
One quarter was Italian, | 0:12:37 | 0:12:39 | |
another quarter was Jewish families, | 0:12:39 | 0:12:42 | |
except that we were also intermingled in the tenement houses. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:46 | |
Then the other quarter was the Irish, who politically ran the city. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:50 | |
They were outvoted, any day of the week, but for some reason, | 0:12:51 | 0:12:54 | |
when election time came, they would give coal, and gifts of clothing | 0:12:54 | 0:12:58 | |
to all of the other families, and they would vote for the Irishmen all the time. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:02 | |
The blacks, of course, were kept in one part of the town. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:05 | |
They were such a small matter that we never knew they were there at all. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:08 | |
I don't remember too many black children in my classes. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:11 | |
# The boulevard of broken dreams... # | 0:13:12 | 0:13:15 | |
I think it's easy for us to forget that he was also a boy | 0:13:15 | 0:13:19 | |
and a young man at a time | 0:13:19 | 0:13:21 | |
when everybody's life was difficult. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:23 | |
When everybody was at risk. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:25 | |
The depression was an all-encompassing | 0:13:26 | 0:13:29 | |
experience for anybody who grew up in it. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:32 | |
And above all, it caused you to realise that life was hard. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:37 | |
It was not just going to be hard for you to make a living, | 0:13:37 | 0:13:40 | |
it might actually be hard for you to survive. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:42 | |
This was not theoretical for somebody like Sinatra, it was real. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:50 | |
It shaped his whole idea of professionalism, | 0:13:50 | 0:13:53 | |
of his feeling that he had to be the best performer, | 0:13:53 | 0:13:57 | |
the best professional that he could possibly be, | 0:13:57 | 0:14:00 | |
because if you're going to survive in the '30s, | 0:14:00 | 0:14:03 | |
you had to do it by working very hard, and being very lucky. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:06 | |
In Italy, there were 55 discrete dialects of the Italian language. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:14 | |
My grandmother spoke all 55. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:18 | |
This put her in a position where people came to her | 0:14:18 | 0:14:21 | |
as the neighbourhood interpreter. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:24 | |
The next logical step in the '20s, she went into politics. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:29 | |
Then they wanted to reward my mother, | 0:14:29 | 0:14:32 | |
and give my father a job, | 0:14:32 | 0:14:34 | |
on a city payroll, right. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:36 | |
A cop or a fireman, right, so she made him a fireman. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:38 | |
Hoboken had about six movie theatres, we're only one mile square. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:48 | |
We had the Lyric Theatre, the US Theatre, | 0:14:48 | 0:14:53 | |
the Broadwalk houses ended with a movie. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:56 | |
We had the Rialto, we had the City theatre, | 0:14:56 | 0:14:59 | |
and every time I saw somebody I wanted to be them. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:02 | |
I wanted to be a ventriloquist, | 0:15:02 | 0:15:04 | |
then I saw jugglers, and all that kind of thing. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:06 | |
But I'm still thinking about singing, | 0:15:06 | 0:15:08 | |
I'd never lost that thing about singing back there. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:11 | |
And... | 0:15:11 | 0:15:13 | |
I went to see performers. I mean, not anybody famous, until... | 0:15:13 | 0:15:16 | |
I saw Bing. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:18 | |
# But now I'm back to cry my heart out | 0:15:18 | 0:15:20 | |
# For just one more chance... # | 0:15:21 | 0:15:24 | |
Bing Crosby was the first great pop singer in America, | 0:15:25 | 0:15:28 | |
and the first white singer to completely internalise | 0:15:28 | 0:15:34 | |
the innovations of jazz, which he got directly from Louis Armstrong. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:38 | |
Sinatra heard these things, and he said that's what I want to do. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:43 | |
I want to be like that. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:45 | |
# I like New York in June | 0:15:46 | 0:15:50 | |
# How about you? | 0:15:50 | 0:15:52 | |
# I like a Gershwin tune | 0:15:53 | 0:15:56 | |
# How about you? # | 0:15:57 | 0:15:59 | |
I started singing more in school, with the dances on Friday nights. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:05 | |
Every other Friday night, we had a dance in the gymnasium. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:08 | |
And people would say to me "Hey, you're pretty good." | 0:16:08 | 0:16:10 | |
And that began to register in my head. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:13 | |
# How about you? # | 0:16:13 | 0:16:15 | |
When I went to the publishing houses, | 0:16:15 | 0:16:17 | |
they would give away free orchestrations, if they knew you. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:20 | |
Complete stock orchestrations. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:22 | |
And I built a library, | 0:16:22 | 0:16:23 | |
and then I saved enough money, and I bought a public address system. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:26 | |
-Before then, I sang through a megaphone. You wouldn't know what that is. -Rudy Vallee. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:30 | |
-That's what you sing through. -You actually used a megaphone? | 0:16:30 | 0:16:32 | |
I had a megaphone, and guys would throw pennies into... | 0:16:32 | 0:16:35 | |
-See if they could get me to swallow them. -Go right down you! | 0:16:35 | 0:16:38 | |
-A lot of fun, those days. -They try it with shot glasses now. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:41 | |
But I used to move a great deal, so they couldn't hit it. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:43 | |
Then came the microphone age, | 0:16:43 | 0:16:46 | |
and I thought, "Jesus, I could save some money." | 0:16:46 | 0:16:48 | |
So for 60 I bought a whole outfit. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:50 | |
The microphone allowed for a new kind of singing | 0:16:50 | 0:16:54 | |
because it magnified the voice, | 0:16:54 | 0:16:56 | |
so you didn't have to project. | 0:16:56 | 0:16:59 | |
What Sinatra sang was this longing, and passion, | 0:16:59 | 0:17:04 | |
that was controlled in song. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:07 | |
When did you first discover that Frank found out that he could sing? | 0:17:08 | 0:17:11 | |
Well, I first discovered it when he didn't want to go to school | 0:17:11 | 0:17:14 | |
any more, outside of just going into these glee clubs all the time. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:18 | |
Uh-huh. And how old was he at the time? | 0:17:18 | 0:17:20 | |
At the time, he was about 16. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:22 | |
And naturally the principal sent for me | 0:17:22 | 0:17:26 | |
and said he was just taking up space. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:28 | |
Was there a family crisis when you dropped out of high school? | 0:17:28 | 0:17:31 | |
Oh, it was disastrous. Absolutely disastrous. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
My dad, you know, who never had too much of a formal education | 0:17:35 | 0:17:38 | |
was terribly disappointed, he just couldn't understand it. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:41 | |
I pleaded with him, | 0:17:41 | 0:17:43 | |
I said, you've got to give me a chance to work on what I want to do, | 0:17:43 | 0:17:47 | |
and he said something about, "Sure, chance, chance." | 0:17:47 | 0:17:49 | |
He said, "Ten years from now," he said, "You'll still be looking for chance, you'll be a bum," he said. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:53 | |
# All or nothing at all | 0:17:53 | 0:17:58 | |
# If it's love | 0:18:00 | 0:18:02 | |
# There ain't no in between | 0:18:02 | 0:18:05 | |
# Why begin and stop something that might have been? | 0:18:06 | 0:18:11 | |
# I know I'd rather... | 0:18:11 | 0:18:14 | |
# Rather have nothing at all... # | 0:18:14 | 0:18:17 | |
Where did you first meet Frank? | 0:18:18 | 0:18:20 | |
In Long Branch, New Jersey, | 0:18:20 | 0:18:22 | |
which is on the coast. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:24 | |
I knew his family, | 0:18:24 | 0:18:26 | |
his aunt and uncle and their children. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:28 | |
Across the street, Nancy's father and mother had a house. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:33 | |
And I saw this very pretty little girl sitting on their front stoop. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:38 | |
And he called across the street and says, "Hi, what are you doing?", | 0:18:38 | 0:18:41 | |
And I said, "I'm giving myself a manicure." | 0:18:41 | 0:18:44 | |
He said, "Would you give me one?" I said, "Sure." | 0:18:45 | 0:18:48 | |
And I gave him a manicure, and that's how I met him. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:51 | |
Well, I have a funny feeling that she may have had eyes for me, | 0:18:53 | 0:18:55 | |
because she was sitting out there alone, just staring, across the street. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:59 | |
He lived in Hoboken, which was four miles from Jersey City, | 0:18:59 | 0:19:04 | |
and I'd never been there. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:05 | |
So he called me after we met, | 0:19:06 | 0:19:09 | |
and he started to come over. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:11 | |
And we went together for about four and a half, five years, | 0:19:15 | 0:19:18 | |
or five and a half years, I can't remember exactly, | 0:19:18 | 0:19:20 | |
I know that before Major Bowes, we were going together. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:23 | |
We're proud indeed of the brilliant careers that have been launched | 0:19:24 | 0:19:27 | |
through the radio forum in New York City. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:30 | |
To get a start, there was a man on radio called Major Bowes, | 0:19:34 | 0:19:38 | |
who had an amateur programme, | 0:19:38 | 0:19:40 | |
and you went and you auditioned. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:42 | |
I went over and I auditioned, | 0:19:42 | 0:19:44 | |
and they said, "OK. We'll put you on the radio." | 0:19:44 | 0:19:48 | |
And there were three other kids from my hometown who had... | 0:19:50 | 0:19:53 | |
Who made up a trio called the Three Aces, | 0:19:53 | 0:19:57 | |
very intelligent title for a group. Three Aces. | 0:19:57 | 0:20:00 | |
Oh, boy, they took a lot of time to think that out. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:02 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:20:02 | 0:20:04 | |
And Major Bowes loused that up by saying you'll be the Hoboken Four, | 0:20:04 | 0:20:07 | |
that took care of that whole situation like that. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:09 | |
We have now the Hoboken Four. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:11 | |
They call themselves the singing and dancing fools. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
Who will speak for the group? | 0:20:14 | 0:20:16 | |
I will, I'm Frank. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:17 | |
We're looking for jobs. How about it? | 0:20:17 | 0:20:19 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:20:19 | 0:20:21 | |
Everyone that's ever heard us liked us, | 0:20:21 | 0:20:23 | |
we think we're pretty good. | 0:20:23 | 0:20:25 | |
All right, what do you want to sing, or dance, or whatever it is you do? | 0:20:25 | 0:20:28 | |
-We're going to sing Shine. -All right, let's have it. Hoboken Four. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:31 | |
# Shine | 0:20:31 | 0:20:33 | |
# And sway your blues'ies | 0:20:33 | 0:20:35 | |
# Why don't you shine? | 0:20:35 | 0:20:37 | |
# Start with your shoes'ies | 0:20:37 | 0:20:38 | |
# Shine each place up | 0:20:40 | 0:20:41 | |
# Make it look like new | 0:20:41 | 0:20:43 | |
# Shine your face up I want to see you wear a smile or two | 0:20:44 | 0:20:47 | |
# Oh, shine your these and thoseies... # | 0:20:47 | 0:20:50 | |
We performed, and we won the first prize, and we went out on the road | 0:20:50 | 0:20:54 | |
all over the United States, most of the United States anyway. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:57 | |
And we started out on the train, | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
first stop was Chicago, | 0:21:00 | 0:21:02 | |
And I remember I was getting 75 bucks a week. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:04 | |
And I sent most of it home, because we were living it up | 0:21:05 | 0:21:09 | |
in the best hotels in the United States, for a dollar a night. | 0:21:09 | 0:21:11 | |
But then, when we got... | 0:21:13 | 0:21:15 | |
We got up around Seattle, | 0:21:15 | 0:21:17 | |
I decided that I'd had enough. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:20 | |
I got homesick, and also I wanted to go back to | 0:21:20 | 0:21:22 | |
what I really started to do. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:23 | |
To become a solo singer, I didn't want to be part of it any more. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:27 | |
And I told the guys, and they stayed. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:29 | |
Well, you know, he used to write me letters, he was lonely, | 0:21:29 | 0:21:32 | |
-I'll tell you that. -Did you keep those letters? -I tore them all up. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:35 | |
I kept one. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:38 | |
I had enough money and I bought a plane ticket. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:41 | |
I landed at Newark. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:42 | |
And Nancy's brother borrowed a car, | 0:21:42 | 0:21:44 | |
and they came out and met me at the airport, | 0:21:44 | 0:21:46 | |
and then, of course, is when I... | 0:21:46 | 0:21:48 | |
that's when I began to have trouble with my family. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:50 | |
I wasn't doing well because you know, | 0:21:50 | 0:21:52 | |
if an orchestra got a job on a Saturday night to play, | 0:21:52 | 0:21:55 | |
they had six, four men or six men, | 0:21:55 | 0:21:56 | |
they didn't have enough money to hire a singer, | 0:21:56 | 0:21:59 | |
but a lot of the guys I knew, and they'd say, | 0:21:59 | 0:22:01 | |
"Hey, listen, come on over and sing if you want to sing, | 0:22:01 | 0:22:04 | |
"but we can't give you anything," you know. So I did. | 0:22:04 | 0:22:07 | |
Shortly following that was when my old man one morning woke me up | 0:22:07 | 0:22:10 | |
when he came home from the night shift, | 0:22:10 | 0:22:12 | |
and he, this particular morning, | 0:22:12 | 0:22:13 | |
said to me... | 0:22:13 | 0:22:15 | |
"Why don't you just get out of the house and go out on your own?" | 0:22:15 | 0:22:18 | |
It was really what he said, you know, get out. And... | 0:22:18 | 0:22:21 | |
I think the egg was stuck in here for about 20 minutes, | 0:22:22 | 0:22:25 | |
I couldn't swallow it or get rid of it anyway. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:27 | |
My mother, of course, was nearly in tears... | 0:22:27 | 0:22:29 | |
..but we agreed that it might be a good thing, | 0:22:31 | 0:22:33 | |
and I packed up a small case that I had, and I came to New York. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:36 | |
When Frank Sinatra was young, | 0:22:40 | 0:22:42 | |
New York was the centre of American popular music. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:46 | |
The radio networks at that point were centred in New York. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:52 | |
The music business itself, Tin Pan Alley, | 0:22:53 | 0:22:55 | |
these were centred in New York. | 0:22:55 | 0:22:57 | |
As a young man, in New Jersey, | 0:22:58 | 0:23:00 | |
New York would have been Oz. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:02 | |
The magic city that he looked at from a distance, | 0:23:04 | 0:23:07 | |
and said this is the place that I have to go | 0:23:07 | 0:23:10 | |
in order to become what I want to become. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:13 | |
I just kind of bummed around, I had about 60 in a savings account, | 0:23:18 | 0:23:21 | |
and I just hung around, I got odd jobs. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:24 | |
I used to hang round the music publishing houses, and I got to know | 0:23:31 | 0:23:35 | |
Jimmy Van Heusen, Sammy Connor, Saul Chaplin, and all those guys. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:38 | |
That's how far back we go. | 0:23:38 | 0:23:39 | |
Jimmy Van Heusen was a piano player who would teach the singers | 0:23:41 | 0:23:44 | |
the company's new songs so that they could do it on the radio | 0:23:44 | 0:23:47 | |
but I wasn't a big enough man as an artist | 0:23:47 | 0:23:49 | |
to be focused on by a guy like van Heusen. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:52 | |
A couple of times, when I was really kind of short, | 0:23:53 | 0:23:55 | |
I bunked with a musician of one of the bands, | 0:23:55 | 0:23:58 | |
in the Forest Hotel. | 0:23:58 | 0:23:59 | |
About that point... | 0:24:01 | 0:24:03 | |
..was the Christmas that came that I went home. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:07 | |
And I thought my old man was on 24-hour shifts, | 0:24:07 | 0:24:10 | |
but I had the day screwed up, he was off 24 hours and he was at home. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:14 | |
And I brought two presents over to leave them there, | 0:24:14 | 0:24:16 | |
because he didn't speak to me for a long time. Didn't talk to me. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:19 | |
And he met me at the door, | 0:24:19 | 0:24:21 | |
and of course it was a great homecoming. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:23 | |
He started to cry and I was teary and it was just marvellous. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:26 | |
MUSIC: Here Comes The Night by Frank Sinatra | 0:24:27 | 0:24:30 | |
# Here comes the night my cloak of blue | 0:24:30 | 0:24:34 | |
# Here comes the night | 0:24:36 | 0:24:38 | |
# With dreams of you... # | 0:24:38 | 0:24:41 | |
But seven months after the Christmas incident, | 0:24:43 | 0:24:45 | |
a musician friend of mine told me there was a joint | 0:24:45 | 0:24:48 | |
called The Rustic Cabin, | 0:24:48 | 0:24:49 | |
and they were forming a new band, and they were looking for a boy singer. | 0:24:49 | 0:24:52 | |
I went up and auditioned. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:54 | |
In Englewood Cliffs, up near George Washington Bridge. | 0:24:54 | 0:24:57 | |
Got the job at The Rustic Cabin. | 0:24:57 | 0:24:59 | |
Shortly after that, we got word that the WNEW dance parade | 0:24:59 | 0:25:03 | |
was going to pick up The Rustic Cabin, | 0:25:03 | 0:25:06 | |
every night of the week, 11 to 11:15, or 11:15 to 11:30, whatever it was. | 0:25:06 | 0:25:10 | |
Suddenly, he, my dad, | 0:25:10 | 0:25:13 | |
became the proudest man in the world, you know. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:16 | |
He couldn't wait to tell anybody, everybody, or anybody, | 0:25:16 | 0:25:19 | |
that I was on a 15-minute dance remote programme | 0:25:19 | 0:25:21 | |
from New Jersey in some roadhouse somewhere, you know. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:25 | |
And they'd all sit around the radio and listen, 11 o'clock at night for 15 minutes. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:29 | |
And in those days I couldn't sing my way out of a paper bag, | 0:25:29 | 0:25:31 | |
but they thought I was a big star, you know. | 0:25:31 | 0:25:34 | |
Anybody got on the radio in the early days of radio was a very big star. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:37 | |
MUSIC: I've Got A Heartful Of Music by Benny Goodman | 0:25:38 | 0:25:44 | |
On my night off at The Rustic Cabin is when I would take Nancy out, | 0:25:49 | 0:25:53 | |
and we would go to see somebody. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:55 | |
I was always going out to see somebody else work. | 0:25:55 | 0:25:57 | |
That's when I ran into one of the men in the music business, | 0:25:59 | 0:26:02 | |
who said to me, "Listen," he said. "Why don't you take some lessons?" | 0:26:02 | 0:26:06 | |
And I said, "What kind of lessons?" | 0:26:06 | 0:26:08 | |
He said, "Vocal lessons," he said, "You know, guys do that." | 0:26:08 | 0:26:10 | |
I said, "Well, where do you find these guys?" | 0:26:10 | 0:26:12 | |
He said there's a guy up over at The Brass Rail, | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
he said, the restaurant, he said, his name is Quinlan, he's an old drunk, | 0:26:15 | 0:26:18 | |
he said, he used to be at the Met and he got kicked out of the Met. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:21 | |
And he said you only got to talk to him. So I went up and he was surly. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:24 | |
I think he was hungover, anyway. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:25 | |
He said who are you and how long have you been singing, | 0:26:25 | 0:26:28 | |
and why do you want to be a singer and all that kind of stuff. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:31 | |
I said, "Well, I'd like to be a singer | 0:26:31 | 0:26:32 | |
"because I feel that I have an idea about singing." | 0:26:32 | 0:26:35 | |
"Oh," he said, "you've already got an idea?" | 0:26:35 | 0:26:37 | |
He said, "Why do you need me?" | 0:26:37 | 0:26:38 | |
I said, "No, what I mean is... | 0:26:38 | 0:26:40 | |
"I just need some direction." | 0:26:40 | 0:26:42 | |
He said, "I tell you what we'll do. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:44 | |
"If you can handle three dollars a week," he said, "I'll give you three lessons a week." | 0:26:44 | 0:26:47 | |
And I started, three lessons a week. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:49 | |
I couldn't wait to get there every time we had a lesson. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:52 | |
I couldn't wait, because I knew that I was learning something. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:55 | |
He was teaching me the proper way to sing. | 0:26:55 | 0:26:58 | |
And I still use the same exercises, and then I developed some of my own. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:02 | |
Matter of fact, I once put out a book with him, | 0:27:02 | 0:27:04 | |
we put out a paperback, vocal calisthenics book, after I made it, | 0:27:04 | 0:27:09 | |
and we had drawings made of the mouth formation, you know. | 0:27:09 | 0:27:12 | |
The E sound, and the Oo sound and the Er. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:15 | |
And there's no such thing as a Ah, it's wrong. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:17 | |
Never sing Ah, you sing Uh. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:19 | |
U H. Uh. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:21 | |
That's across, up the roof of the mouth, into the mass. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:24 | |
If you sing Ah, it goes back into the throat and it can break. It can snap. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:29 | |
-Now that's my first vocal lesson with you. -I'm ready! | 0:27:29 | 0:27:31 | |
You'll get a bill next week. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:33 | |
I worked with him for a long time. | 0:27:33 | 0:27:34 | |
And then I began to get the jobs. I got a couple of jobs. | 0:27:35 | 0:27:38 | |
I went to WNEW, I didn't get any money, | 0:27:38 | 0:27:41 | |
and Diana Shore and I split a half hour, | 0:27:41 | 0:27:45 | |
she had 15 minutes, I had 15 minutes. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:46 | |
Don't you remember the early, early, early show we used to do on WNEW? | 0:27:46 | 0:27:50 | |
-Do I? Every time I think about it, I get tired. -Yeah. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:53 | |
-Imagine having to sing love songs at six o'clock in the morning? -Oh, yeah. | 0:27:53 | 0:27:56 | |
-And not even finishing the chorus, there was never enough time. -All the emotion into it. Gee-whiz. | 0:27:56 | 0:28:00 | |
But then we were lucky though | 0:28:00 | 0:28:01 | |
cos they used to give us free coffee. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:03 | |
-Yeah. -And who could afford breakfast in those days? -Yeah. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:06 | |
# Here we are... | 0:28:06 | 0:28:09 | |
BOTH: # Out of cigarettes | 0:28:09 | 0:28:11 | |
# Holding hands and yawning | 0:28:12 | 0:28:14 | |
# Look how late it gets... # | 0:28:15 | 0:28:17 | |
Now I was on the air twice. | 0:28:17 | 0:28:19 | |
Once at night and one in the morning. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:22 | |
And then I got fan mail. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:25 | |
And I'd get little postcards, two postcards, three postcards, | 0:28:25 | 0:28:28 | |
and girls would write to me, you know. Penny postcards. | 0:28:28 | 0:28:30 | |
And I'd go and look in there right away and see how much mail, | 0:28:30 | 0:28:33 | |
did it get any bigger? It never got any bigger. | 0:28:33 | 0:28:35 | |
People began to hear me. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:37 | |
And they were saying Jesus, you're getting better, really, we see the difference in what's happening. | 0:28:37 | 0:28:41 | |
He's singing about youthful, essentially naive romance, | 0:28:45 | 0:28:48 | |
and he's doing it in a voice that is | 0:28:48 | 0:28:51 | |
distinctly different from what anybody else was doing back then. | 0:28:51 | 0:28:54 | |
It is so clearly the voice of a young man. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:56 | |
The ambition of being the greatest pop singer of his time, | 0:28:58 | 0:29:02 | |
of his generation, | 0:29:02 | 0:29:04 | |
was an ambition that couldn't have existed in Sinatra's imagination | 0:29:04 | 0:29:07 | |
when he was young. | 0:29:07 | 0:29:09 | |
# How to make two lovers | 0:29:11 | 0:29:16 | |
# Old friends... # | 0:29:16 | 0:29:22 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:29:22 | 0:29:23 | |
MUSIC: The Right Girl For Me by Frank Sinatra | 0:29:26 | 0:29:28 | |
# If her voice is a song | 0:29:37 | 0:29:40 | |
# And her walk is a dance | 0:29:41 | 0:29:44 | |
# And if her laugh is warm and free | 0:29:44 | 0:29:49 | |
# If I suddenly seem | 0:29:49 | 0:29:51 | |
# To be seeing a dream | 0:29:53 | 0:29:55 | |
# She's the right girl for me | 0:29:56 | 0:29:59 | |
# If the glow in her eyes and the light in her smile... # | 0:30:01 | 0:30:05 | |
Do you remember when he asked you to marry him? | 0:30:05 | 0:30:08 | |
Well, see, he was supposedly involved with other girls | 0:30:08 | 0:30:12 | |
while we were going together, and I really don't know if that was true, | 0:30:12 | 0:30:17 | |
but he, believe me, wanted to get married. | 0:30:17 | 0:30:20 | |
When Nancy and I got married | 0:30:22 | 0:30:24 | |
the Italian custom is that the bride has a white satin bag | 0:30:24 | 0:30:28 | |
with a drawstring on it, and you'd give envelopes, | 0:30:28 | 0:30:32 | |
which is the most sensible thing in the world, | 0:30:32 | 0:30:34 | |
instead of a whole bunch of phoney gifts that you never use, | 0:30:34 | 0:30:38 | |
and all the song cats chipped in. | 0:30:38 | 0:30:39 | |
I think there must have been 30 of them, | 0:30:39 | 0:30:42 | |
and they put 2 apiece, or something. | 0:30:42 | 0:30:45 | |
They gave us 60 for our wedding, 50 or 60. | 0:30:45 | 0:30:48 | |
Sweet, you know, really touching. | 0:30:48 | 0:30:50 | |
I got married in '39, 1939. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:54 | |
I took a course in secretarial work. | 0:30:54 | 0:30:58 | |
I think I was earning... | 0:30:58 | 0:31:00 | |
I don't remember. Very little a week. | 0:31:00 | 0:31:03 | |
She was making 22 a week and I was at the Rustic Cabin making 15 a week. | 0:31:03 | 0:31:06 | |
And the minute we married, | 0:31:06 | 0:31:09 | |
the career started to get better all the time. | 0:31:09 | 0:31:12 | |
# For me | 0:31:12 | 0:31:14 | |
# She's the right girl | 0:31:14 | 0:31:19 | |
# For me. # | 0:31:19 | 0:31:24 | |
When we finished our last show at the Paramount, I went home | 0:31:32 | 0:31:35 | |
and I turned the radio on and I heard this remote coming from | 0:31:35 | 0:31:38 | |
the rest of the cabins and I heard a singer, | 0:31:38 | 0:31:40 | |
so I said, "Well, gee, this kid really sounds great. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:42 | |
"Maybe I'll take a run out there | 0:31:42 | 0:31:44 | |
"and see if I can see him and listen to him." | 0:31:44 | 0:31:47 | |
# Saturday night is the loneliest night of the week | 0:31:48 | 0:31:54 | |
# I sing a song that I sang for the memories I usually seek | 0:31:54 | 0:32:01 | |
# Until I hear you at the door | 0:32:01 | 0:32:06 | |
# Until you're in my arms once more | 0:32:06 | 0:32:10 | |
# Saturday night is the loneliest night of the week... # | 0:32:10 | 0:32:15 | |
Harry James is listening to me all the time and I don't know this. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:18 | |
He was with Benny Goodman. He was the first trumpet player with him. | 0:32:18 | 0:32:22 | |
He said to me, "We're all going to start our own band. | 0:32:22 | 0:32:24 | |
"How soon can you get out of here?" I said, "I have no contract here." | 0:32:24 | 0:32:28 | |
I said, "How about tomorrow? How about tonight?" | 0:32:28 | 0:32:31 | |
So now I leave and I go with Harry, we go on the road. | 0:32:34 | 0:32:36 | |
When you're on a road with a dance band, | 0:32:41 | 0:32:43 | |
you're moving all the time, | 0:32:43 | 0:32:45 | |
the action is going all the time, you know? | 0:32:45 | 0:32:47 | |
And you could try things and nobody's saying, | 0:32:47 | 0:32:49 | |
"Well, what are you doing?" | 0:32:49 | 0:32:51 | |
Harry knew what I was doing, knew I was reaching, trying to find things, | 0:32:51 | 0:32:54 | |
like a pitcher trying a new curveball. | 0:32:54 | 0:32:57 | |
He had no arrangements made up for me yet so we were faking things | 0:32:57 | 0:33:00 | |
and we would do Embraceable You and the band would fill in with notes | 0:33:00 | 0:33:05 | |
and Harry would do the Noodle with the trumpet and Stardust, | 0:33:05 | 0:33:08 | |
which I hated, cos everybody used to sing it and I'd had it up to here. | 0:33:08 | 0:33:11 | |
And a lot of the wives, it was like baseball wives, | 0:33:14 | 0:33:16 | |
they all came across the country in a car. | 0:33:16 | 0:33:18 | |
I met him in Chicago, that's where Nancy was conceived. | 0:33:21 | 0:33:24 | |
Our plan was not to get pregnant that fast. | 0:33:26 | 0:33:29 | |
In those days there wasn't much money | 0:33:29 | 0:33:31 | |
and we were paying off a new car. | 0:33:31 | 0:33:34 | |
And I'm pregnant and he's worried, you know? | 0:33:34 | 0:33:36 | |
He's always thinking ahead. | 0:33:39 | 0:33:41 | |
This man thinks a great deal, always did, as a kid even. | 0:33:41 | 0:33:44 | |
He always had an ambition. | 0:33:45 | 0:33:47 | |
He said that he wanted to be very big in the industry. | 0:33:48 | 0:33:53 | |
He wanted to be... When he saw Bing, he felt that that was his ambition. | 0:33:53 | 0:33:58 | |
# I'm dreaming of a white Christmas | 0:33:58 | 0:34:04 | |
# Just like the ones I used to know... # | 0:34:04 | 0:34:08 | |
And Bing Crosby ruled the airwaves completely. | 0:34:08 | 0:34:13 | |
Every radio show in those days had 15, 20 minutes of Bing Crosby. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:18 | |
A single record... It's called White Christmas. | 0:34:18 | 0:34:22 | |
To this day, it's the biggest record that ever sold. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:25 | |
It sold 50 million records. | 0:34:25 | 0:34:27 | |
# I'm dreaming | 0:34:27 | 0:34:31 | |
# Of a white Christmas... # | 0:34:31 | 0:34:35 | |
All the time I was with Harry, I just kept thinking about the next step. | 0:34:35 | 0:34:39 | |
I'd listened to Tommy Dorsey's band | 0:34:40 | 0:34:42 | |
and I'd listened to the singer with the band. | 0:34:42 | 0:34:44 | |
Jack Leonard was with the band. | 0:34:44 | 0:34:46 | |
What I had heard, through the grapevine, | 0:34:46 | 0:34:48 | |
Tommy tried to screw him out of 3,000 and they were fighting. | 0:34:48 | 0:34:51 | |
To my knowledge, I was the first guy to tell Tommy about Frank. | 0:34:51 | 0:34:57 | |
A friend, a girlfriend, she said, | 0:34:57 | 0:34:59 | |
"Frank Sinatra has a record out called All Or Nothing At All," | 0:34:59 | 0:35:03 | |
and she said, "It is fantastic," | 0:35:03 | 0:35:06 | |
and I mentioned it to Tommy. | 0:35:06 | 0:35:08 | |
# All or nothing at all... # | 0:35:08 | 0:35:12 | |
When I quit, the first guy he contacted was Frank. | 0:35:12 | 0:35:16 | |
He said, "How'd you like to work for me?" | 0:35:16 | 0:35:18 | |
"Oh," I said, "Jesus, Tom," I said, "I've got a two-year deal with Harry | 0:35:18 | 0:35:22 | |
"and I don't know." | 0:35:22 | 0:35:24 | |
I said, "I'm dying to sing for you," cos Tommy was... | 0:35:24 | 0:35:27 | |
He and Glenn Miller, they were the two top orchestras, | 0:35:27 | 0:35:30 | |
so I didn't sleep all night. | 0:35:30 | 0:35:33 | |
My eyes were jumping, I was so excited. | 0:35:33 | 0:35:35 | |
I even went to the theatre very early. | 0:35:35 | 0:35:37 | |
I was just sitting in the dressing room and Harry came. | 0:35:37 | 0:35:40 | |
I finally got up and I walked into his room, | 0:35:40 | 0:35:42 | |
and I walked in and I walked out, I walked in and I walked out. | 0:35:42 | 0:35:45 | |
"What, are you nervous?" | 0:35:45 | 0:35:47 | |
I said, "Well, Jesus, I am nervous, Harry." | 0:35:47 | 0:35:49 | |
I said, "I know what I'm going to ask you is a very tough thing." | 0:35:49 | 0:35:52 | |
And he said, "Tommy Dorsey wants to hire you." | 0:35:53 | 0:35:57 | |
He was still signed with me. | 0:35:57 | 0:35:59 | |
I hadn't given him a written release, I just said, | 0:35:59 | 0:36:01 | |
"Sure, go ahead, Frank," cos really I've always lived that way. | 0:36:01 | 0:36:05 | |
The word is stronger than a pen with me. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:07 | |
I was so happy and it even affected my singing now. | 0:36:07 | 0:36:10 | |
It began to get more lofty than it was and I was doing better things. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:14 | |
And I joined Tommy with a lot of malevolence in the band, | 0:36:20 | 0:36:24 | |
a lot of bad vibes. | 0:36:24 | 0:36:27 | |
They resented me for the fact that their friend, Jack Leonard, quit. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:30 | |
ORCHESTRA PLAYS | 0:36:30 | 0:36:31 | |
When you're with a band, it's very cliquey | 0:36:34 | 0:36:36 | |
and when a new person comes in, it's like, | 0:36:36 | 0:36:39 | |
"You prove yourself, kiddo, before you become one of the group." | 0:36:39 | 0:36:42 | |
We were just sitting on the bandstand | 0:36:43 | 0:36:45 | |
when Tommy announced this new singer. | 0:36:45 | 0:36:48 | |
Out on the stage walked this very skinny, | 0:36:48 | 0:36:51 | |
unprepossessing-looking young man and I thought, "Wow." | 0:36:51 | 0:36:55 | |
# Sometimes I wonder | 0:36:55 | 0:37:01 | |
# Why I spend | 0:37:01 | 0:37:04 | |
# The lonely nights dreaming... # | 0:37:04 | 0:37:11 | |
He sang about eight bars and that whole theatre | 0:37:11 | 0:37:15 | |
became so quiet you could have heard a pin drop. | 0:37:15 | 0:37:19 | |
You just knew that you were hearing something quite unique. | 0:37:19 | 0:37:23 | |
# And I am once again with you | 0:37:23 | 0:37:27 | |
# When our love was new... # | 0:37:27 | 0:37:31 | |
Tommy Dorsey had this incredible, incredible breath control. | 0:37:31 | 0:37:37 | |
Without breathing... I guess... | 0:37:39 | 0:37:42 | |
TROMBONE PLAYS | 0:37:42 | 0:37:44 | |
I watched him and I could never see him breathe. | 0:37:53 | 0:37:56 | |
16 bars at a time. I wonder how he does that. | 0:37:56 | 0:37:58 | |
If you can visualise a trombone player holds the mouthpiece, | 0:38:00 | 0:38:03 | |
he was breathing in the corner of his mouth. | 0:38:03 | 0:38:06 | |
And that was my theory - do not break a phrase if you can do that | 0:38:06 | 0:38:10 | |
and keep the audience listening for the rest of the phrase. | 0:38:10 | 0:38:14 | |
He would be able to sing four lines of that song. | 0:38:14 | 0:38:18 | |
There was a seamlessness, a smoothness, | 0:38:20 | 0:38:22 | |
and not one person is looking at anybody else. | 0:38:22 | 0:38:25 | |
They are completely under the spell of Sinatra's story. | 0:38:25 | 0:38:29 | |
# ..and always will remain | 0:38:29 | 0:38:32 | |
# Doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo | 0:38:32 | 0:38:34 | |
# My stardust melody | 0:38:34 | 0:38:38 | |
# The memory of love's refrain. # | 0:38:38 | 0:38:47 | |
We came to Los Angeles to open The Palladium, | 0:38:48 | 0:38:52 | |
a great new dance hall. | 0:38:52 | 0:38:53 | |
We got bombed, everybody did, the night before, | 0:38:55 | 0:38:57 | |
and I remember the bellboy came in. | 0:38:57 | 0:39:00 | |
He said, "Hey, anybody awake yet? We're in a war with Japan. | 0:39:00 | 0:39:03 | |
"They bombed the Pearl Harbor." | 0:39:03 | 0:39:04 | |
'With the unbounding determination of our people | 0:39:07 | 0:39:11 | |
'we will gain the inevitable triumph,' | 0:39:11 | 0:39:16 | |
-so help us, God. -APPLAUSE | 0:39:16 | 0:39:18 | |
Now we were getting angry. If I had been single, | 0:39:20 | 0:39:22 | |
I probably would have said, "Hey, I want to volunteer," | 0:39:22 | 0:39:25 | |
but I had a child. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:27 | |
# If I don't see her each day | 0:39:27 | 0:39:32 | |
# I miss her | 0:39:32 | 0:39:34 | |
# Gee, what a thrill | 0:39:37 | 0:39:41 | |
# Each time I kiss her | 0:39:41 | 0:39:45 | |
# Believe me I've got a case | 0:39:45 | 0:39:48 | |
# On Nancy with the laughing face... # | 0:39:52 | 0:39:55 | |
Dad was in Hollywood with the band when I was born back in Jersey City. | 0:39:57 | 0:40:02 | |
Band singer Jo Stafford recalled that he was so excited | 0:40:02 | 0:40:04 | |
that all he did was talk about his new baby girl. | 0:40:04 | 0:40:07 | |
# But summer could take a few lessons from her | 0:40:07 | 0:40:13 | |
# She was a tomboy in lace | 0:40:16 | 0:40:19 | |
# That's Nancy with the laughing face... # | 0:40:21 | 0:40:27 | |
Oh, my God, it was beautiful. | 0:40:27 | 0:40:29 | |
I was the first in the family of seven children to have a baby | 0:40:29 | 0:40:34 | |
and the whole family spoiled her, loved her, | 0:40:34 | 0:40:38 | |
and he was wonderful with her. | 0:40:38 | 0:40:42 | |
He loved it. | 0:40:42 | 0:40:43 | |
# When she speaks | 0:40:43 | 0:40:45 | |
# You would think it was singing | 0:40:45 | 0:40:48 | |
# Just hear her say hello | 0:40:52 | 0:40:56 | |
# Keep Betty Grable Lamour and Turner | 0:40:59 | 0:41:04 | |
# She'll make your heart a charcoal burner | 0:41:07 | 0:41:14 | |
# No angel could replace | 0:41:15 | 0:41:18 | |
# Nancy with the laughing face... # | 0:41:22 | 0:41:30 | |
It was a different era. It was a sweet era. It was a dance era. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:34 | |
You did a ballad with long lines | 0:41:34 | 0:41:37 | |
so that you could hold the girl real close and dance. | 0:41:37 | 0:41:41 | |
# Poor you | 0:41:49 | 0:41:52 | |
# I'm sorry you're not me | 0:41:52 | 0:41:56 | |
# For you will never know | 0:41:56 | 0:42:00 | |
# What loving you can be... # | 0:42:00 | 0:42:03 | |
Frank had a style, almost a sexy style, you know, very warm. | 0:42:05 | 0:42:11 | |
With those eyes and that smile, | 0:42:11 | 0:42:13 | |
I think he could almost pinpoint them at one particular girl. | 0:42:13 | 0:42:17 | |
They just fell in love with him. | 0:42:17 | 0:42:20 | |
# Poor you | 0:42:20 | 0:42:22 | |
# You'll live your whole life through | 0:42:22 | 0:42:26 | |
# And yet you'll never know | 0:42:26 | 0:42:30 | |
# The thrill of loving you. # | 0:42:30 | 0:42:34 | |
CHEERING | 0:42:34 | 0:42:36 | |
The kids were just enamoured with Frank. | 0:42:36 | 0:42:39 | |
And you could hear when Tommy would be playing, the kids were aware | 0:42:39 | 0:42:43 | |
that it's a modulation for Frank's vocal and nobody would be dancing. | 0:42:43 | 0:42:46 | |
They'd all just crowd around the bandstand. | 0:42:46 | 0:42:49 | |
The kids came not to see Tommy Dorsey any more. | 0:42:49 | 0:42:52 | |
It wasn't Tommy that was getting the crowd, | 0:42:52 | 0:42:55 | |
it was Frank that was getting the crowd. | 0:42:55 | 0:42:57 | |
# He's a new man | 0:42:57 | 0:42:58 | |
# Better than Casanova... # | 0:42:58 | 0:43:00 | |
And that's what Tommy couldn't stand. | 0:43:00 | 0:43:03 | |
If you've got an organisation | 0:43:03 | 0:43:05 | |
and the boy singer is taking it away from you, who needs that act? | 0:43:05 | 0:43:08 | |
# I'm so proud I'm busting... # | 0:43:08 | 0:43:11 | |
So there was a conflict. | 0:43:11 | 0:43:13 | |
He kept trying to push him down and Frank wouldn't let him. | 0:43:13 | 0:43:17 | |
In 15 months he became the hottest new singing star in the country, | 0:43:17 | 0:43:21 | |
especially among teenagers. | 0:43:21 | 0:43:23 | |
# But look at him now | 0:43:23 | 0:43:26 | |
# Jack, I'm ready | 0:43:26 | 0:43:27 | |
# Look at him now... # | 0:43:27 | 0:43:29 | |
It was pandemonium all the time, chaos. | 0:43:29 | 0:43:32 | |
The reaction from the crowds in those days was absolutely phenomenal. | 0:43:33 | 0:43:37 | |
They were squealing and yelling and screaming. | 0:43:37 | 0:43:39 | |
The kids would scream every time I'd come out on the stage. | 0:43:39 | 0:43:42 | |
WOMAN WAILS AND SHOUTS | 0:43:42 | 0:43:44 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:43:44 | 0:43:46 | |
-How are you, Frank? -Oh, I feel fine, Mr Crosby. | 0:43:46 | 0:43:49 | |
Let's declare a little moratorium on the formality, Frankie. | 0:43:49 | 0:43:52 | |
Just call me Bing. | 0:43:52 | 0:43:53 | |
Oh, no, I wouldn't dream of calling a man of your years | 0:43:53 | 0:43:56 | |
by his first name. LAUGHTER | 0:43:56 | 0:43:58 | |
Now I figured that Crosby was the only man on top, | 0:44:00 | 0:44:04 | |
he was the only guy at the top, and I thought to myself, | 0:44:04 | 0:44:06 | |
"Somebody's got to challenge this bum. | 0:44:06 | 0:44:08 | |
"Some time or other, it's going to happen." | 0:44:08 | 0:44:10 | |
So I began to think to myself, "Why don't I do it for myself?" | 0:44:10 | 0:44:15 | |
I know this guy's signed me and I've got a deal with him. | 0:44:15 | 0:44:18 | |
Tommy was a man who was more of a proprietary attitude. | 0:44:18 | 0:44:23 | |
Tommy was almost like a father | 0:44:23 | 0:44:24 | |
and if a guy left, he was a son who was leaving, you see. | 0:44:24 | 0:44:27 | |
After the first year I was with him I said, | 0:44:27 | 0:44:29 | |
"I think in about a year I'd like to leave the band," | 0:44:29 | 0:44:32 | |
and he kind of left it, just grinned at me. | 0:44:32 | 0:44:35 | |
After four months went by, I said it to him again | 0:44:35 | 0:44:37 | |
but he didn't smile too broadly this time. | 0:44:37 | 0:44:40 | |
He said, "I don't want to talk to you, Goddamn it, | 0:44:40 | 0:44:42 | |
"you fucking ingrate." | 0:44:42 | 0:44:44 | |
So, I left Tommy's band, signing a piece of paper | 0:44:44 | 0:44:47 | |
which said he gets, the rest of my life, one third of my salary. | 0:44:47 | 0:44:51 | |
He sued me. And I'd been accused that the mob got me out of the band. | 0:44:51 | 0:44:56 | |
Some unidentifiable creature went to Tommy Dorsey and said, | 0:44:56 | 0:45:01 | |
"You better let him out of the contract." | 0:45:01 | 0:45:04 | |
Well, that never happened. | 0:45:04 | 0:45:05 | |
The man who did was the secretary | 0:45:05 | 0:45:08 | |
of the American Federation of Radio Artists. | 0:45:08 | 0:45:11 | |
He went to Mr Dorsey. | 0:45:11 | 0:45:13 | |
He said, "I think we can come to a settlement quite simply." | 0:45:13 | 0:45:16 | |
Tom said, "No, no, no." | 0:45:16 | 0:45:18 | |
He said, "I want one third of his salary for the rest of his life, | 0:45:18 | 0:45:21 | |
"as long as he lives." | 0:45:21 | 0:45:22 | |
So Jaffe said to him, "Do you enjoy playing music in hotel rooms | 0:45:22 | 0:45:26 | |
"and having the nation hear you on the radio?" | 0:45:26 | 0:45:29 | |
And he said, "Sure I do." | 0:45:29 | 0:45:31 | |
He said, "Not any more you won't." | 0:45:31 | 0:45:33 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:45:33 | 0:45:35 | |
He never said goodbye to me or nothing, | 0:45:35 | 0:45:38 | |
and I didn't know where I was going. | 0:45:38 | 0:45:40 | |
I didn't know where I was going but I went home. | 0:45:40 | 0:45:42 | |
I bought a little house for Nancy and myself in Hasbrouck Heights. | 0:45:42 | 0:45:45 | |
I was just happy to be home. | 0:45:45 | 0:45:47 | |
Nancy was now two years old. | 0:45:49 | 0:45:51 | |
# You can't resist her... # | 0:45:51 | 0:45:54 | |
I spent about three, four weeks just sitting at home. | 0:45:54 | 0:45:58 | |
And I can just picture it, you know? | 0:45:58 | 0:46:00 | |
They were poor times but they were good times. | 0:46:02 | 0:46:05 | |
As poor as they always were, they were never that bad. | 0:46:05 | 0:46:09 | |
# My Nancy with the laughing face... # | 0:46:10 | 0:46:17 | |
Cos then when the real work started, he worked like a dog. | 0:46:19 | 0:46:23 | |
I was living in Hasbrouck Heights | 0:46:24 | 0:46:26 | |
and I found out there was a theatre there where they had vaudeville | 0:46:26 | 0:46:29 | |
and I went around, spoke to the manager | 0:46:29 | 0:46:31 | |
and I said, "I'd like to play here for a couple of nights, | 0:46:31 | 0:46:34 | |
"maybe a weekend." He said, "OK." | 0:46:34 | 0:46:36 | |
Each booker from the theatres in New York, the Roxy, the Strand, | 0:46:36 | 0:46:41 | |
Loew's State, the Paramount, | 0:46:41 | 0:46:44 | |
they sent their scouts over to see what all the noise was about. | 0:46:44 | 0:46:47 | |
Why were the kids screaming and yelling | 0:46:47 | 0:46:49 | |
and running up and down the aisles? | 0:46:49 | 0:46:50 | |
The Paramount Theatre manager said, | 0:46:50 | 0:46:54 | |
"I would like you to open at New Year's Eve." | 0:46:54 | 0:46:56 | |
And he said, "You've got Benny Goodman's orchestra | 0:46:56 | 0:46:59 | |
"and a Crosby picture," and I fell right on my butt. | 0:46:59 | 0:47:01 | |
I couldn't believe what he said to me. | 0:47:01 | 0:47:03 | |
In those days, they called you an extra added attraction. | 0:47:03 | 0:47:07 | |
I got into New York and I look at the marquee... | 0:47:07 | 0:47:10 | |
Holy... | 0:47:13 | 0:47:15 | |
So we get ready to go and I'm excited and it's the opening day | 0:47:15 | 0:47:18 | |
and this is the moment that's going to make me or break me. | 0:47:18 | 0:47:22 | |
If I'm not good in the Paramount Theatre | 0:47:22 | 0:47:24 | |
under these circumstances, I'm dead. | 0:47:24 | 0:47:26 | |
Jesus, I was nervous. | 0:47:26 | 0:47:28 | |
ORCHESTRA PLAYS | 0:47:31 | 0:47:32 | |
Benny did a whole section of music and then he would finish that section | 0:47:35 | 0:47:39 | |
with Sing, Sing, Sing, and it would get rowdy, it would tear the joint. | 0:47:39 | 0:47:42 | |
It ran about eight minutes. | 0:47:42 | 0:47:44 | |
He finished Sing, Sing, Sing and he took a bow | 0:47:44 | 0:47:47 | |
and he went over to the microphone and he said, "Now Frank Sinatra." | 0:47:47 | 0:47:51 | |
SCREAMING AND CHEERING | 0:47:51 | 0:47:53 | |
And they screamed like a banshee. | 0:47:55 | 0:47:58 | |
He turned around and he looked at the audience and he said to nobody, | 0:47:58 | 0:48:01 | |
"What the fuck is that?" he said. | 0:48:01 | 0:48:03 | |
# I walk alone | 0:48:03 | 0:48:06 | |
# They'll ask me why | 0:48:06 | 0:48:09 | |
# And I'll tell them I'd rather | 0:48:09 | 0:48:13 | |
# There are dreams I must gather... # | 0:48:15 | 0:48:21 | |
There was one girl that was making so much noise and screaming so much, | 0:48:21 | 0:48:24 | |
and I wanted her out cos I thought she was precipitating a riot. | 0:48:24 | 0:48:29 | |
I tried to pull her out and she was like a tigress, | 0:48:29 | 0:48:32 | |
so I called some of the guys. | 0:48:32 | 0:48:34 | |
I had four lads pulling her out and carrying her | 0:48:34 | 0:48:37 | |
and she wouldn't go! | 0:48:37 | 0:48:39 | |
I mean, there's nothing that you can do | 0:48:39 | 0:48:41 | |
when you have 3,000 people standing up and screaming at something. | 0:48:41 | 0:48:44 | |
What are you going to say, "Sit down"? | 0:48:44 | 0:48:46 | |
But this is the kind of hysteria that came there. | 0:48:46 | 0:48:49 | |
# And I'll be there... # | 0:48:51 | 0:48:54 | |
The next day, the reviews came out. They were very kind. | 0:48:54 | 0:48:57 | |
It was holiday season, it was jumping. | 0:48:57 | 0:49:01 | |
I was booked for two weeks. | 0:49:01 | 0:49:03 | |
# Never saw the sun shining so bright | 0:49:03 | 0:49:07 | |
# Never saw things looking so right... # | 0:49:07 | 0:49:09 | |
Parents would take their children to the theatres | 0:49:09 | 0:49:12 | |
at four o'clock in the morning and wait with them until daylight, | 0:49:12 | 0:49:15 | |
and what a difference in a child in those days. | 0:49:15 | 0:49:17 | |
They use to come up scrubbed up, | 0:49:17 | 0:49:19 | |
their pink cheeks with their hair combed and bobbysocks. | 0:49:19 | 0:49:22 | |
# Nothing but blue skies | 0:49:22 | 0:49:25 | |
# From now on. # | 0:49:25 | 0:49:28 | |
It was incredible. It was like a mass hypnosis. | 0:49:28 | 0:49:31 | |
That was the thrill of our life. | 0:49:32 | 0:49:34 | |
We used to go there for 35 cents. We sat there all day. | 0:49:34 | 0:49:37 | |
We were poorer but we always had money to go to the Paramount | 0:49:37 | 0:49:40 | |
and see Sinatra. | 0:49:40 | 0:49:42 | |
When he'd walk out and the band would play the intro to his songs, | 0:49:42 | 0:49:45 | |
oh, you'd get goose bumps. | 0:49:45 | 0:49:47 | |
It was little wonder that throughout the nation feminine listeners | 0:49:47 | 0:49:50 | |
formed Frank "Swoonatra" fan clubs | 0:49:50 | 0:49:53 | |
and one organisation called itself | 0:49:53 | 0:49:56 | |
the Sighing Society of Swooning Sinatra Slaves. | 0:49:56 | 0:50:00 | |
The Voice, as he was nicknamed, was no flash in the pan. | 0:50:00 | 0:50:03 | |
When Frank Sinatra was becoming famous, | 0:50:04 | 0:50:07 | |
movies were the ultimate tool | 0:50:07 | 0:50:10 | |
of creating celebrity. | 0:50:10 | 0:50:12 | |
But after the Depression, | 0:50:12 | 0:50:14 | |
not everybody could even afford a ticket to the theatre. | 0:50:14 | 0:50:17 | |
But everybody in America pretty much either had a radio | 0:50:17 | 0:50:22 | |
or had access to one, and you could use it for free. | 0:50:22 | 0:50:25 | |
-RADIO: -Kids, Your Hit Parade! | 0:50:27 | 0:50:29 | |
Here's Frank with your fifth-place favourite Swinging On A Star. | 0:50:29 | 0:50:33 | |
# Would you like to swing on a star | 0:50:36 | 0:50:39 | |
# Carry moonbeams home in a jar | 0:50:39 | 0:50:43 | |
# And be better off than you are? | 0:50:43 | 0:50:48 | |
# Or would you rather... # | 0:50:48 | 0:50:49 | |
The Hit Parade came along. | 0:50:49 | 0:50:51 | |
The next thing happened, I was still at the Paramount, | 0:50:51 | 0:50:53 | |
there's a new club opening on 57th Street called the Riobamba, | 0:50:53 | 0:50:58 | |
and they called and made an offer. | 0:50:58 | 0:51:01 | |
I said to my agents, "That sounds interesting." | 0:51:01 | 0:51:04 | |
They said, "We don't think so cos you're a Coca-Cola seller | 0:51:04 | 0:51:07 | |
"and this is a champagne joint." | 0:51:07 | 0:51:10 | |
I said, "I'm fucking well ready for anything right now." | 0:51:10 | 0:51:12 | |
I said, "Book it." | 0:51:12 | 0:51:14 | |
It all happened in a period of two to three months, | 0:51:14 | 0:51:17 | |
the opening at the Paramount, the Riobamba and the Hit Parade. | 0:51:17 | 0:51:21 | |
# You may grow up to be a fish | 0:51:21 | 0:51:23 | |
# And all the monkeys... # | 0:51:23 | 0:51:25 | |
The show at the Paramount, I came on the stage at about a quarter of nine, | 0:51:25 | 0:51:29 | |
and the radio show on at nine o'clock. | 0:51:29 | 0:51:31 | |
And it was like you'd put an animal in a cage. | 0:51:31 | 0:51:33 | |
The ambulance would back up, up on the sidewalk, | 0:51:33 | 0:51:35 | |
they'd open the door so I could jump in. | 0:51:35 | 0:51:37 | |
As you pulled away, they'd close the door | 0:51:37 | 0:51:39 | |
cos there were thousands of kids in the street. | 0:51:39 | 0:51:41 | |
And in the ambulance they would have a malted milk and a sandwich | 0:51:41 | 0:51:44 | |
and I would devour that by the time I got the ten blocks | 0:51:44 | 0:51:46 | |
up to the radio station. | 0:51:46 | 0:51:48 | |
I was so busy working. I was really working my ass off trying to help out | 0:51:51 | 0:51:55 | |
with the war effort | 0:51:55 | 0:51:56 | |
the best I could. | 0:51:56 | 0:51:58 | |
'Super War Bond Salesman say, "Let's all back the attack." | 0:51:58 | 0:52:01 | |
'It's an auction with the biggest buyers of war bonds | 0:52:01 | 0:52:04 | |
'getting souvenirs.' | 0:52:04 | 0:52:05 | |
20,000, Bob Hope has got Seabiscuit's shoe, worn when he won the Santa Anita handicap. | 0:52:05 | 0:52:09 | |
-Do you think it'll fit me? -LAUGHTER | 0:52:09 | 0:52:11 | |
'Now War Bond buyers get orchids with The Voice as the pin-up boy.' | 0:52:11 | 0:52:15 | |
And we have a squeal with each orchid, ladies and gentlemen. | 0:52:17 | 0:52:20 | |
'The Super War Bond special is the duet of the century.' | 0:52:20 | 0:52:23 | |
# People will say we're in love. # | 0:52:23 | 0:52:30 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:52:30 | 0:52:32 | |
# I'll never smile again | 0:52:51 | 0:52:57 | |
# Until I smile at you | 0:52:59 | 0:53:04 | |
# I'll never laugh again... # | 0:53:07 | 0:53:12 | |
Ruth Lowe was a Canadian woman. Her husband got killed. | 0:53:12 | 0:53:16 | |
He was a Canadian flyer. Right at the beginning of the war he got killed. | 0:53:16 | 0:53:19 | |
She wrote that song and brought it down personally to New York. | 0:53:19 | 0:53:23 | |
# For tears | 0:53:23 | 0:53:25 | |
# Would fill my eyes... # | 0:53:25 | 0:53:28 | |
That song, it followed my dad his whole life. | 0:53:30 | 0:53:34 | |
And I think it probably was because so many people identified | 0:53:34 | 0:53:37 | |
with it in the first place, you know, with their personal losses. | 0:53:37 | 0:53:42 | |
# To smile again | 0:53:45 | 0:53:47 | |
# Until I smile | 0:53:50 | 0:53:54 | |
# At you. # | 0:53:54 | 0:54:04 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:54:09 | 0:54:11 | |
I was declared a 4-F. | 0:54:13 | 0:54:15 | |
I got a reject slip from Uncle Sam | 0:54:15 | 0:54:17 | |
because of a perforated eardrum from my birth. | 0:54:17 | 0:54:20 | |
And the press got to work on that. | 0:54:20 | 0:54:21 | |
"Who the hell is he not to be in the service?" | 0:54:23 | 0:54:26 | |
"Boys are getting killed in Europe and this guy's singing songs | 0:54:26 | 0:54:29 | |
"to their wives and their girlfriends." | 0:54:29 | 0:54:32 | |
# There'll be a hot time in the town of Berlin | 0:54:32 | 0:54:36 | |
# When the lads go marching in | 0:54:36 | 0:54:39 | |
# I'd like to be there, boy | 0:54:39 | 0:54:41 | |
# And spread some joy | 0:54:41 | 0:54:43 | |
# When they take old Berlin... # | 0:54:43 | 0:54:46 | |
I'm stationed in Foggia, Italy, | 0:54:46 | 0:54:48 | |
and all we knew overseas about Frank Sinatra | 0:54:48 | 0:54:51 | |
was he was not serving because of a punctured eardrum | 0:54:51 | 0:54:56 | |
and the women were crazy about him, | 0:54:56 | 0:54:59 | |
so our girlfriends, our wives, | 0:54:59 | 0:55:01 | |
were nuts about Frank Sinatra. | 0:55:01 | 0:55:04 | |
There was a great dislike, at the least, for this figure. | 0:55:04 | 0:55:08 | |
# ..take a hike through Hitler's Reich | 0:55:08 | 0:55:11 | |
# And change that "Heil" to "What ya know, Joe"... # | 0:55:11 | 0:55:14 | |
The real creeps were the guys who were in uniform | 0:55:14 | 0:55:17 | |
but had safe jobs at Fort Dix and Fort Totten in Long Island. | 0:55:17 | 0:55:20 | |
They were the guys who threw the tomatoes and eggs | 0:55:20 | 0:55:23 | |
at the big sign on top of the marquee at the Paramount Theatre. | 0:55:23 | 0:55:26 | |
It was childish. | 0:55:26 | 0:55:27 | |
They wouldn't have guts enough to face me alone. | 0:55:27 | 0:55:30 | |
But I got the second notice and I had to reappear for an examination. | 0:55:32 | 0:55:36 | |
I couldn't believe it. | 0:55:36 | 0:55:39 | |
In other words, I wasn't being treated like an ordinary citizen. | 0:55:39 | 0:55:42 | |
I was a special case all of a sudden. | 0:55:42 | 0:55:44 | |
And I went to the New York Army with 6,000 other guys | 0:55:50 | 0:55:53 | |
and there were cameramen and radio guys | 0:55:53 | 0:55:56 | |
and 1,000 people on the street, the kids, you know, | 0:55:56 | 0:55:59 | |
"Frankie, baby, don't let them push you around," | 0:55:59 | 0:56:01 | |
and all that kind of jazz. | 0:56:01 | 0:56:03 | |
And when I got finished, they put me in a station wagon | 0:56:05 | 0:56:08 | |
with two rifled infantrymen and a driver | 0:56:08 | 0:56:12 | |
and they took me to Governors Island. | 0:56:12 | 0:56:15 | |
First of all, when I walked into the ward, they knew I was coming. | 0:56:15 | 0:56:18 | |
The word was out that I was coming | 0:56:18 | 0:56:19 | |
and these guys are lolling on their beds | 0:56:19 | 0:56:21 | |
and they walked towards me and one guy shook my hand. | 0:56:21 | 0:56:24 | |
He said, "I'm glad to meet you. I've been a big fan." | 0:56:24 | 0:56:27 | |
He said, "If you need any magazines or comic books, | 0:56:27 | 0:56:29 | |
"I've got a lot of stuff." | 0:56:29 | 0:56:31 | |
Well, do know how many phone calls I made? | 0:56:31 | 0:56:33 | |
I must have made 700 phone calls to everybody's family | 0:56:33 | 0:56:36 | |
all over the United States, | 0:56:36 | 0:56:37 | |
cos they would call their family and put me on. | 0:56:37 | 0:56:39 | |
There were seven phone booths, the kids were making them one at a time. | 0:56:39 | 0:56:42 | |
I'm running from one to another making the call. | 0:56:42 | 0:56:45 | |
"Hello, Mrs so-and-so," or the wife of a guy. | 0:56:45 | 0:56:47 | |
"Hello, Angie. He's fine. "No, he looks great." "Are you sure?" | 0:56:47 | 0:56:50 | |
"Oh, my God, you're calling me up. "Is it really you?" | 0:56:50 | 0:56:53 | |
"Yeah." "Sing something!" | 0:56:53 | 0:56:55 | |
The next afternoon, I get word to go down to the psychiatrist | 0:56:55 | 0:57:01 | |
and he said, "Before we do anything, I've got an 11-year-old | 0:57:01 | 0:57:04 | |
"who's absolutely crazy about you." And I signed it to his little girl. | 0:57:04 | 0:57:09 | |
When he put it away he said, "I've read your whole medical report. | 0:57:09 | 0:57:12 | |
"Even a rifle's shot could deafen you if the guy's next to you. | 0:57:12 | 0:57:15 | |
"That's why they reject people with holes in their ears." | 0:57:15 | 0:57:18 | |
He said, "I'm recommending that you are absolutely rejected | 0:57:18 | 0:57:22 | |
"from the service." He said to me, "Now once you go back to your ward, | 0:57:22 | 0:57:25 | |
"get yourself dressed and then go back to New York." | 0:57:25 | 0:57:29 | |
I got on the ferry boat, put my coat collar up like this, | 0:57:29 | 0:57:31 | |
there's snow on my face, | 0:57:31 | 0:57:33 | |
and suddenly the city began to come alive through the snow, | 0:57:33 | 0:57:37 | |
the lights of Wall Street downtown, all the buildings were lit, | 0:57:37 | 0:57:40 | |
and I start to cry. | 0:57:40 | 0:57:42 | |
# Time after time | 0:57:42 | 0:57:47 | |
# I tell myself that I'm | 0:57:47 | 0:57:52 | |
# So lucky | 0:57:52 | 0:57:55 | |
# To be loving you... # | 0:57:55 | 0:57:59 | |
Frankie was born at the Margaret Hague Hospital in Jersey City. | 0:58:01 | 0:58:05 | |
Somewhere along the line, Daddy said he named him | 0:58:05 | 0:58:08 | |
for Franklin Roosevelt, so it was Franklin Wayne Emanuel Sinatra. | 0:58:08 | 0:58:13 | |
My brother says it's Francis. | 0:58:14 | 0:58:17 | |
I think he was putting you on, hon. | 0:58:17 | 0:58:19 | |
My name was never Franklin | 0:58:19 | 0:58:20 | |
and I was not named after Franklin Delano Roosevelt, | 0:58:20 | 0:58:24 | |
but Dolly Sinatra said he was the greatest president | 0:58:24 | 0:58:27 | |
that we had ever had. | 0:58:27 | 0:58:29 | |
Her son began to believe it and when he became famous, | 0:58:29 | 0:58:32 | |
he worked for Franklin D Roosevelt many, many times. | 0:58:32 | 0:58:37 | |
I came on for Roosevelt - I loved him! | 0:58:37 | 0:58:39 | |
And then I went on and worked my ass off for him. | 0:58:39 | 0:58:41 | |
Orson Welles and myself did a lot of the campaigning, | 0:58:41 | 0:58:44 | |
and particularly if it was a large Italian area, | 0:58:44 | 0:58:48 | |
where it might be like... We did one in Jersey, | 0:58:48 | 0:58:50 | |
where it's almost all Italians. | 0:58:50 | 0:58:53 | |
And I said, "If you don't vote for this man, | 0:58:53 | 0:58:56 | |
"you're all going to be in a lot of trouble." | 0:58:56 | 0:58:58 | |
I didn't make any kind of a fancy speech. | 0:58:58 | 0:59:01 | |
And then Welles would walk out, and he was dynamite. | 0:59:01 | 0:59:04 | |
He was absolute dynamite. | 0:59:04 | 0:59:06 | |
There was great criticism heaped upon me because I was so active | 0:59:10 | 0:59:14 | |
in that particular campaign for Mr Roosevelt. | 0:59:14 | 0:59:17 | |
Newspaper writers like Lee Mortimer and Westbrook Pegler, | 0:59:18 | 0:59:22 | |
who were never in favour of the Democratic position, | 0:59:22 | 0:59:25 | |
they suddenly began to attack Sinatra. | 0:59:25 | 0:59:28 | |
I was stamped. They stamped me a communist right there. | 0:59:28 | 0:59:32 | |
I said, "Bullshit. I don't know who you are but you're wrong." | 0:59:32 | 0:59:35 | |
-Yeah? -Good morning. My name is Frank Sinatra. | 0:59:37 | 0:59:39 | |
What? | 0:59:41 | 0:59:43 | |
SHE SIGHS | 0:59:43 | 0:59:45 | |
I did the first picture at RKO called Higher And Higher. | 0:59:45 | 0:59:49 | |
My family was still at home but I looked for a house. | 0:59:49 | 0:59:52 | |
At that point, Nancy put our house on the market and I called her | 0:59:52 | 0:59:56 | |
and said, "I've found a great house." | 0:59:56 | 0:59:58 | |
And I couldn't have been happier because I loved California. | 0:59:58 | 1:00:03 | |
Lovely, lovely. | 1:00:03 | 1:00:05 | |
It was right on the lake. We had a kayak, a canoe. | 1:00:05 | 1:00:09 | |
Toluca Lake was so beautiful. We had a wonderful life there. | 1:00:11 | 1:00:16 | |
Dad came home a lot. He wasn't just a voice on the radio. | 1:00:16 | 1:00:19 | |
# My blue heaven... # | 1:00:19 | 1:00:22 | |
I was home. Figured I did a movie and I'm going to do another movie. | 1:00:22 | 1:00:27 | |
I didn't get many movies done at RKO cos Mr Mayer saw me | 1:00:27 | 1:00:30 | |
in an old building downtown, the Shrine. | 1:00:30 | 1:00:32 | |
In that show we used to buy the whole row. | 1:00:32 | 1:00:35 | |
# As long as there's music | 1:00:35 | 1:00:41 | |
-# There's always romance -Oo-ooh | 1:00:41 | 1:00:46 | |
# The spell of a theme | 1:00:46 | 1:00:49 | |
# Starts you to dream | 1:00:49 | 1:00:52 | |
-# There's always a chance -Oo-oo-ooh | 1:00:52 | 1:00:56 | |
# As long as there's music | 1:00:56 | 1:01:01 | |
# Whatever the song... # | 1:01:01 | 1:01:04 | |
And I'm standing up there singing, | 1:01:04 | 1:01:06 | |
I'd never met Mayer, and I see him sitting there and he's crying. | 1:01:06 | 1:01:10 | |
And he whispered something to a guy sitting next to him. | 1:01:10 | 1:01:12 | |
Mayer said, "I want that boy." | 1:01:12 | 1:01:15 | |
I went to Metro and I got a 130,000 picture. | 1:01:15 | 1:01:17 | |
# What a dish, what a dream what a dame | 1:01:21 | 1:01:23 | |
# And she lives alone... # | 1:01:25 | 1:01:28 | |
A problem arose when I started at MGM. | 1:01:28 | 1:01:31 | |
We did a picture called Anchors Aweigh. | 1:01:31 | 1:01:34 | |
What struck me at first about Frank | 1:01:34 | 1:01:37 | |
was that he was the best-known, most popular performer in America | 1:01:37 | 1:01:41 | |
and the first two pictures he made at RKO were, | 1:01:41 | 1:01:45 | |
let's face it, flops. | 1:01:45 | 1:01:47 | |
So I said to him, "Frank, there's one big thing you have to do. | 1:01:47 | 1:01:51 | |
"You can't be thought of as a guy who just stands there. | 1:01:51 | 1:01:55 | |
"You don't have to be a great, great dancer but you have to move." | 1:01:55 | 1:01:59 | |
"You have to dance a little bit, period." | 1:01:59 | 1:02:02 | |
I said, "That means a lot of sweat and work." | 1:02:02 | 1:02:04 | |
He said, "Great, when do we start?" | 1:02:04 | 1:02:07 | |
He worked as if we were training for the heavyweight championship. | 1:02:07 | 1:02:10 | |
He really worked very hard. | 1:02:10 | 1:02:11 | |
I did four vocals in Anchors Aweigh. | 1:02:24 | 1:02:27 | |
I said, "Well, Mr Sinatra, who do you want to write the songs? | 1:02:27 | 1:02:29 | |
The Gershwins, Kern, Porter Oscar Hammerstein, Rodgers? | 1:02:29 | 1:02:33 | |
Who do you want? He said, "Sammy Cahn." | 1:02:33 | 1:02:37 | |
They said, "We don't mind hiring him. Who is he?" | 1:02:37 | 1:02:39 | |
And Sinatra typically said, | 1:02:39 | 1:02:41 | |
"Since you're not singing the songs, don't let it bother you." | 1:02:41 | 1:02:44 | |
And they said, "You know we've got about ten arrangers." | 1:02:44 | 1:02:46 | |
I said, "No, no, I'm sorry, I have my own arranger." | 1:02:46 | 1:02:49 | |
Axel Stordahl, whom I now had engaged, who would not believe Tommy, | 1:02:49 | 1:02:52 | |
I finally convinced him. I got him 1,250 in arrangement. | 1:02:52 | 1:02:56 | |
He said, "I never saw so much money in my life." | 1:02:56 | 1:02:58 | |
# I fall in love | 1:03:01 | 1:03:05 | |
# Too easily | 1:03:05 | 1:03:09 | |
# I fall in love | 1:03:12 | 1:03:15 | |
# Too fast | 1:03:15 | 1:03:18 | |
# I fall in love | 1:03:20 | 1:03:23 | |
# Too terribly hard | 1:03:23 | 1:03:28 | |
# For love to ever last | 1:03:28 | 1:03:36 | |
# My heart should be well-schooled | 1:03:36 | 1:03:42 | |
# Cos I've been fooled | 1:03:42 | 1:03:47 | |
# In the past | 1:03:49 | 1:03:52 | |
# And still I fall in love | 1:03:52 | 1:03:58 | |
# Too easily | 1:03:58 | 1:04:00 | |
# I fall in love | 1:04:06 | 1:04:11 | |
# Too fast. # | 1:04:11 | 1:04:18 | |
Anchors Aweigh opened | 1:04:22 | 1:04:24 | |
to rave reviews in big box offices | 1:04:24 | 1:04:26 | |
around the country. | 1:04:26 | 1:04:28 | |
Overnight, Frank Sinatra | 1:04:28 | 1:04:29 | |
became a major movie star, | 1:04:29 | 1:04:31 | |
having already become | 1:04:31 | 1:04:33 | |
a recording and radio star. | 1:04:33 | 1:04:35 | |
At that point, his attitude was, | 1:04:40 | 1:04:43 | |
"Fate has now suddenly put me into the position | 1:04:43 | 1:04:47 | |
"to do something about unfairness." | 1:04:47 | 1:04:50 | |
In his lifetime he had seen abject poverty. | 1:04:50 | 1:04:54 | |
He had seen terrible things done to people and it upset him. | 1:04:54 | 1:04:59 | |
I was living in Harlem and my family was on welfare. | 1:05:01 | 1:05:06 | |
We were just a hoofing act. | 1:05:06 | 1:05:08 | |
And Frank found us and we went into the Capitol Theatre | 1:05:08 | 1:05:12 | |
and he paid us 1,750, all the money in the world. | 1:05:12 | 1:05:16 | |
Frank would come out, open up, sing a couple of songs, | 1:05:18 | 1:05:21 | |
then he introduced us. He'd say little things like, | 1:05:21 | 1:05:24 | |
"I want you to keep an eye on this little kid in the middle." | 1:05:24 | 1:05:26 | |
He said, "Boy, he's going to be something one of these days. | 1:05:26 | 1:05:29 | |
"You watch him, he burns the stage up." | 1:05:29 | 1:05:31 | |
Frank has been one of the main moving forces with me | 1:05:34 | 1:05:37 | |
cos he stood up and was counted long before it became fashionable. | 1:05:37 | 1:05:40 | |
Putting his convictions on the line, Dad played himself | 1:05:43 | 1:05:46 | |
in The House I Live In, | 1:05:46 | 1:05:48 | |
a ten-minute short made in 1945. | 1:05:48 | 1:05:51 | |
And it fitted me to a T | 1:05:51 | 1:05:53 | |
because I was involved in anti-bigotry motions. | 1:05:53 | 1:05:56 | |
We got ten little kids and then you hear the rumpus in the alley outside | 1:05:56 | 1:05:59 | |
where they back up one little boy. | 1:05:59 | 1:06:01 | |
They don't use any words on him but you know they're either saying, | 1:06:01 | 1:06:03 | |
"You guinea bastard," or, "You Jew bastard," or something to him. | 1:06:03 | 1:06:06 | |
'And I do a little short speech.' | 1:06:06 | 1:06:08 | |
My dad came from Italy. But should I hate your father | 1:06:08 | 1:06:11 | |
because he came from Ireland or France or Russia? | 1:06:11 | 1:06:13 | |
Wouldn't I be a first-class fathead? | 1:06:13 | 1:06:15 | |
That film deeply moved me. | 1:06:15 | 1:06:18 | |
It was one of the most engaging documents that I'd ever seen | 1:06:18 | 1:06:22 | |
on the issue of race. | 1:06:22 | 1:06:24 | |
A lot of movies had been made before that time | 1:06:24 | 1:06:27 | |
that attempted to deal with the issues of race | 1:06:27 | 1:06:29 | |
but nobody from the height of pop culture had done it | 1:06:29 | 1:06:32 | |
quite the way Sinatra did. | 1:06:32 | 1:06:34 | |
Think about that, fellows. | 1:06:34 | 1:06:36 | |
Use your good American heads. Don't let anybody make suckers out of you. | 1:06:36 | 1:06:40 | |
Now I've got to go to work. | 1:06:40 | 1:06:43 | |
What do you work? | 1:06:43 | 1:06:45 | |
-I sing. -Aw, you're kidding. | 1:06:45 | 1:06:47 | |
Come here. | 1:06:49 | 1:06:50 | |
You all stand here and no hissing allowed. | 1:06:52 | 1:06:55 | |
# What is America to me? | 1:06:57 | 1:07:01 | |
# The place I work in | 1:07:01 | 1:07:05 | |
# The worker at my side | 1:07:05 | 1:07:09 | |
# The little town or city | 1:07:09 | 1:07:12 | |
# Where my people lived and died | 1:07:12 | 1:07:16 | |
# The howdy and the handshake | 1:07:16 | 1:07:20 | |
# The air of feeling free | 1:07:20 | 1:07:23 | |
# And the right to speak my mind out | 1:07:23 | 1:07:27 | |
# That's America to me. # | 1:07:27 | 1:07:34 | |
As an Italian-American growing up | 1:07:34 | 1:07:36 | |
when the most virulent anti-Italian thing was still in the land, | 1:07:36 | 1:07:40 | |
stereotypes of fractured English, | 1:07:40 | 1:07:43 | |
Life With Luigi radio shows... | 1:07:43 | 1:07:45 | |
-ITALIAN ACCENT: -Dear Mama Mia... | 1:07:47 | 1:07:49 | |
LAUGHTER | 1:07:49 | 1:07:51 | |
Sinatra, he's a very big singer and he's an Italiano boy. | 1:07:51 | 1:07:56 | |
..for him to come along and deal with that, | 1:07:56 | 1:07:59 | |
to insist that he was going to change the way people thought | 1:07:59 | 1:08:04 | |
about Italian-Americans through his diction, | 1:08:04 | 1:08:06 | |
which was impeccable on those songs, | 1:08:06 | 1:08:10 | |
through the style that he presented himself with, I think was crucial. | 1:08:10 | 1:08:13 | |
-NEWSREEL: -New Oscars for Hollywood's top movie-makers. | 1:08:16 | 1:08:19 | |
At Grauman's Chinese Theatre over 2,000 stars are on hand | 1:08:19 | 1:08:22 | |
for the 18th annual Motion Picture Academy Awards. | 1:08:22 | 1:08:25 | |
Frank Sinatra, | 1:08:25 | 1:08:26 | |
he is honoured with a special award for his short The House I Live In. | 1:08:26 | 1:08:30 | |
-NEWSREEL: -The last day of World War II. | 1:08:36 | 1:08:39 | |
Here and across the nation, yes, from coast to coast, | 1:08:39 | 1:08:42 | |
uncorks the pent-up emotions of almost four years. | 1:08:42 | 1:08:45 | |
Downtown, they see sailors lift automobiles, | 1:08:45 | 1:08:48 | |
soldiers kiss pretty girls | 1:08:48 | 1:08:50 | |
and the carrying off of beautiful maidens. | 1:08:50 | 1:08:53 | |
# Night and day | 1:09:06 | 1:09:11 | |
# Why is it so? | 1:09:11 | 1:09:16 | |
# That this longing for you | 1:09:16 | 1:09:19 | |
# Follows wherever I go? | 1:09:19 | 1:09:23 | |
# In the roaring traffic's boom | 1:09:25 | 1:09:31 | |
# Or in the silence of my lonely room | 1:09:31 | 1:09:37 | |
# I think of you... # | 1:09:37 | 1:09:39 | |
Hollywood was Dad's oyster | 1:09:39 | 1:09:41 | |
and he was befriending a wide circle of the famous. | 1:09:41 | 1:09:44 | |
During this heady period of new-found stardom | 1:09:45 | 1:09:48 | |
he was seen around town squiring "Sweater Girl" Lana Turner | 1:09:48 | 1:09:52 | |
and starlet Marilyn Maxwell, among other women. | 1:09:52 | 1:09:56 | |
# There's an, oh, such a hungry yearning, burning | 1:09:56 | 1:10:01 | |
# Inside of me | 1:10:01 | 1:10:05 | |
# And its torment won't be through | 1:10:05 | 1:10:10 | |
# Till you let me spend my life making love to you | 1:10:11 | 1:10:16 | |
# Day and night | 1:10:16 | 1:10:20 | |
# Night and day. # | 1:10:20 | 1:10:23 | |
All the rich, glamorous girls were after the celebrity. | 1:10:26 | 1:10:29 | |
He was attractive. | 1:10:30 | 1:10:32 | |
He was oriented that way anyway. | 1:10:32 | 1:10:35 | |
He felt he had to possess any woman he thought attractive. | 1:10:35 | 1:10:39 | |
A lot of men are like that, | 1:10:39 | 1:10:41 | |
and they get that way more so with more success. | 1:10:41 | 1:10:44 | |
# Making love to you | 1:10:44 | 1:10:47 | |
# Day and night | 1:10:48 | 1:10:51 | |
# Night and day. # | 1:10:51 | 1:10:56 | |
With Frank it was the martinis in the dressing room, | 1:10:56 | 1:10:59 | |
the lavishness, | 1:10:59 | 1:11:01 | |
gold cigarette lighters. | 1:11:01 | 1:11:03 | |
"Let's have fun. | 1:11:03 | 1:11:05 | |
"Where are the laughs? | 1:11:05 | 1:11:06 | |
"Where are the people in this new world that I love?" | 1:11:06 | 1:11:09 | |
Nancy was always the Italian wife - | 1:11:09 | 1:11:13 | |
"The house has got to be spotless. | 1:11:13 | 1:11:15 | |
"If you want peppers or pasta, the sauce is made. | 1:11:15 | 1:11:18 | |
"And I'll have the kids and we'll raise a family." | 1:11:18 | 1:11:21 | |
And that was what was important to her. | 1:11:21 | 1:11:23 | |
On the last day of 1946 my mother discovered | 1:11:26 | 1:11:29 | |
a diamond bracelet in the glove compartment of the new | 1:11:29 | 1:11:32 | |
Cadillac convertible that Dad was teaching her to drive. | 1:11:32 | 1:11:35 | |
Figuring it was a gift for her, she said nothing. | 1:11:35 | 1:11:39 | |
But that night, at the family's New Year's Eve party, | 1:11:39 | 1:11:42 | |
she spied Marilyn Maxwell wearing the bracelet. | 1:11:42 | 1:11:45 | |
I said to her, "I know where you got that." | 1:11:47 | 1:11:49 | |
She just looked up, aghast that I would be brave enough. | 1:11:49 | 1:11:54 | |
She went and told Frank, and Frank said to me, "You know, | 1:11:54 | 1:11:56 | |
"you should apologise," and I said, "Frank, you're mixed up. | 1:11:56 | 1:12:00 | |
"She has to apologise to me." | 1:12:00 | 1:12:03 | |
I feel it was like part of growing up, | 1:12:05 | 1:12:08 | |
that he would eventually have his fill of all this routine | 1:12:08 | 1:12:12 | |
and appreciate what he had. | 1:12:12 | 1:12:13 | |
We made up and he said it's going to be different, | 1:12:15 | 1:12:18 | |
it's going to be better, it's going to be fine. | 1:12:18 | 1:12:20 | |
# She may be waiting | 1:12:22 | 1:12:25 | |
# Just anticipating | 1:12:25 | 1:12:28 | |
# Things she may never possess | 1:12:28 | 1:12:32 | |
# While she's without them | 1:12:35 | 1:12:38 | |
# Try a little tenderness | 1:12:38 | 1:12:44 | |
# It's not just sentimental | 1:12:47 | 1:12:50 | |
# She has her grief and her care | 1:12:52 | 1:12:56 | |
# And a word that's soft and gentle | 1:12:58 | 1:13:01 | |
# Makes it easier to bear | 1:13:03 | 1:13:08 | |
# You won't regret it | 1:13:11 | 1:13:14 | |
# Women don't forget it | 1:13:16 | 1:13:18 | |
# Love is their whole happiness | 1:13:20 | 1:13:25 | |
# And it's all so easy | 1:13:28 | 1:13:33 | |
# Try a little | 1:13:33 | 1:13:36 | |
# Tenderness. # | 1:13:36 | 1:13:44 | |
APPLAUSE | 1:13:48 | 1:13:50 | |
"Nancy," I said, "it's Valentine's Day coming up | 1:13:52 | 1:13:55 | |
"and I'm finished with my work here in New York, | 1:13:55 | 1:13:57 | |
"how would you like to be my Valentine in Acapulco?" | 1:13:57 | 1:14:00 | |
She said, "Oh, that would be marvellous." | 1:14:00 | 1:14:02 | |
Now, in the meantime I went to Miami, | 1:14:04 | 1:14:06 | |
but the next morning it was a shitty day and I said | 1:14:06 | 1:14:08 | |
"I'm not going to sit down here, I'm going to go where the sun is - | 1:14:08 | 1:14:11 | |
"Cuba." | 1:14:11 | 1:14:14 | |
And I checked into the famous hotel, Nacional Hotel. | 1:14:20 | 1:14:25 | |
We went down to the bar and 66 gangsters are standing there. | 1:14:37 | 1:14:41 | |
48 years of good behaviour | 1:14:41 | 1:14:43 | |
and I knew several of the fellas from New Jersey and New York, | 1:14:43 | 1:14:46 | |
including the Fischetti brothers. | 1:14:46 | 1:14:48 | |
They were Capone's guys, when he was alive. | 1:14:48 | 1:14:51 | |
They were really tough. | 1:14:52 | 1:14:54 | |
At that time the boys were dealing with Cuba. | 1:14:58 | 1:15:00 | |
They had a lot of gambling up there, right? | 1:15:00 | 1:15:03 | |
One of them said, "Hey, Frank, come here, | 1:15:03 | 1:15:05 | |
"I want you to meet Charlie Luciano," and I said, "How do you do?" | 1:15:05 | 1:15:07 | |
-NEWSREEL: -Charlie Lucky Luciano, shackled to his henchmen, | 1:15:08 | 1:15:11 | |
the overlord of a 12 million a year vice ring goes to prison. | 1:15:11 | 1:15:15 | |
When he got out, he was deported. | 1:15:17 | 1:15:20 | |
The United States Bureau Of Narcotics | 1:15:20 | 1:15:21 | |
didn't like the fact that he ended up in Cuba because | 1:15:21 | 1:15:24 | |
they didn't want him setting up an operation so close to their shores. | 1:15:24 | 1:15:27 | |
This was in the '40s. | 1:15:27 | 1:15:28 | |
Lucky Luciano was being watched closely. | 1:15:28 | 1:15:30 | |
And, of course, it went on the wire service | 1:15:30 | 1:15:33 | |
that I shook hands with Charlie Luciano. | 1:15:33 | 1:15:35 | |
Writers picked it up and all that crap went on. | 1:15:35 | 1:15:38 | |
And that was the public's first taste of what became | 1:15:42 | 1:15:46 | |
Sinatra's persona for the rest of his life, buddies with the mob. | 1:15:46 | 1:15:51 | |
From that moment I couldn't beat these guys - | 1:15:52 | 1:15:55 | |
they went to press every day. | 1:15:55 | 1:15:56 | |
Then of course, at that point Lee Mortimer picked up a picture | 1:15:56 | 1:15:59 | |
of me getting off the plane. | 1:15:59 | 1:16:01 | |
And then the FBI got the photo from Mortimer, | 1:16:01 | 1:16:05 | |
who was a famous muck-raking journalist, who was trying to | 1:16:05 | 1:16:09 | |
identify the people in the photo that are with Sinatra. | 1:16:09 | 1:16:13 | |
He started to dream up all these things about me, | 1:16:13 | 1:16:16 | |
said I went to Cuba and delivered 2 million | 1:16:16 | 1:16:18 | |
and I brought back drugs into the country. | 1:16:18 | 1:16:21 | |
Now, my luggage, of course, is on the aeroplane, | 1:16:21 | 1:16:24 | |
but I carried a sketch pad in a thin attache case. | 1:16:24 | 1:16:28 | |
Now, this was the bag I was supposedly bringing the 2 million in, right? | 1:16:28 | 1:16:33 | |
There's no evidence of it. | 1:16:33 | 1:16:34 | |
The only mentions of it in government documents | 1:16:34 | 1:16:37 | |
are recounting that it's been in the press. | 1:16:37 | 1:16:40 | |
The investigators, they would read something in the press | 1:16:40 | 1:16:44 | |
and then investigate it, giving it the patina of truth. | 1:16:44 | 1:16:48 | |
It was, in some ways, a vicious cycle. | 1:16:48 | 1:16:50 | |
It led to yet another investigation of his arrest in their late '30s. | 1:16:50 | 1:16:55 | |
# When the moon hangs low in Napoli | 1:16:55 | 1:17:00 | |
# There's a handsome gondolier... # | 1:17:00 | 1:17:04 | |
That was an old, old charge. | 1:17:05 | 1:17:07 | |
Way back, when I was a kid, when I first got the job at The Rustic Cabin. | 1:17:07 | 1:17:11 | |
Some dame claimed that I'd seduced her and she was pregnant. | 1:17:11 | 1:17:15 | |
She wasn't pregnant at all, she was a hokey fan. | 1:17:15 | 1:17:17 | |
We went to the courtroom, and my mother was a nurse and a midwife | 1:17:17 | 1:17:20 | |
said to the judge, "I'd like to examine this woman," | 1:17:20 | 1:17:23 | |
and all of a sudden there was no case. They threw everything out. | 1:17:23 | 1:17:26 | |
# And his heart beat so fortissimo | 1:17:26 | 1:17:31 | |
# When she raises her Venetian shade... # | 1:17:31 | 1:17:35 | |
You see, those things were driving me crazy in that period. | 1:17:35 | 1:17:39 | |
Bogey once said, "You have to remember one thing, | 1:17:39 | 1:17:43 | |
"Frank, there's only one way that anyone can fight a newspaper, | 1:17:43 | 1:17:47 | |
"and that's with a newspaper." | 1:17:47 | 1:17:49 | |
"If you have altercations with the press, | 1:17:49 | 1:17:52 | |
"you're going to be fighting a losing battle," | 1:17:52 | 1:17:54 | |
and this was Humphrey Bogart's sage and sane advice, | 1:17:54 | 1:17:58 | |
which his friend Frank Sinatra promptly proceeded to ignore. | 1:17:58 | 1:18:01 | |
Peggy Lee was opening at Ciro's | 1:18:02 | 1:18:04 | |
when Ciro's was one of the in joints to go to. | 1:18:04 | 1:18:06 | |
She was marvellous. | 1:18:06 | 1:18:08 | |
# Yes, it's a good day for singing a song | 1:18:08 | 1:18:12 | |
# And it's a good day for moving along... # | 1:18:12 | 1:18:16 | |
And behind us I hear an oriental voice. | 1:18:16 | 1:18:20 | |
"Oh," she said, "that's Frank Sinatra." | 1:18:20 | 1:18:22 | |
I hear the male voice say, "Yeah, I saw the guinea bastard." | 1:18:22 | 1:18:25 | |
I didn't know who it was, | 1:18:25 | 1:18:26 | |
I just kind of rounded and, sure enough, it's him, | 1:18:26 | 1:18:28 | |
cos I'd seen his picture at the top of the column. | 1:18:28 | 1:18:31 | |
I hear the chairs being scraped on the floor and they get up. | 1:18:31 | 1:18:35 | |
# A good day from morning till night... # | 1:18:35 | 1:18:37 | |
Peggy went offstage and people were still applauding | 1:18:37 | 1:18:40 | |
and all that stuff, and I said to everybody at my table, | 1:18:40 | 1:18:43 | |
"Excuse me a minute," and this is after he had been bludgeoning me. | 1:18:43 | 1:18:46 | |
He called me a red, he called me a communist, | 1:18:46 | 1:18:49 | |
he did everything he could. | 1:18:49 | 1:18:51 | |
I had enough of him, I had it up to here. | 1:18:51 | 1:18:53 | |
So I walked out and I tapped him on the shoulder. | 1:18:53 | 1:18:55 | |
He turned around, I hit him so fucking hard | 1:18:55 | 1:18:58 | |
I broke the whole front of his face and he banged his head. | 1:18:58 | 1:19:01 | |
# You do something to me | 1:19:02 | 1:19:05 | |
# Something that simply mystifies me... # | 1:19:05 | 1:19:11 | |
And he said I'll write about this and takes a piece of paper out. | 1:19:12 | 1:19:14 | |
"You're going to do more than that," I said, | 1:19:14 | 1:19:16 | |
"I'm going to bury you right under the street like this." | 1:19:16 | 1:19:19 | |
And before I could make another move two guys grabbed me and walked me right out of the club | 1:19:19 | 1:19:22 | |
and people running outside to get an ambulance and all that kind of bullshit, | 1:19:22 | 1:19:26 | |
and I just walked through the whole crowd. | 1:19:26 | 1:19:29 | |
There were no charges, no arrests, no nothing. | 1:19:31 | 1:19:34 | |
He just wanted a civil suit. | 1:19:34 | 1:19:36 | |
9,000 judgment, that was it. | 1:19:36 | 1:19:38 | |
Nothing ever happened. | 1:19:38 | 1:19:40 | |
As a matter of fact, what I did to him | 1:19:40 | 1:19:43 | |
through the ensuing years, every time I saw him in a restaurant, | 1:19:43 | 1:19:47 | |
I'd spit at him, and dare him to get up and take a punch at me. | 1:19:47 | 1:19:50 | |
Can you be objective and tell me what kind of a father you are? | 1:19:55 | 1:19:59 | |
Or is that too tough? | 1:19:59 | 1:20:02 | |
That's a tough question. | 1:20:03 | 1:20:05 | |
# How much do I love you? # | 1:20:10 | 1:20:14 | |
Tina was the California girl, she was born in Los Angeles. | 1:20:15 | 1:20:19 | |
Dad nearly went crazy, going through red lights | 1:20:19 | 1:20:22 | |
and stop signs to get to the hospital. | 1:20:22 | 1:20:24 | |
He wanted a girl | 1:20:25 | 1:20:27 | |
and she was born on Father's Day. | 1:20:27 | 1:20:29 | |
That is how lucky he is. | 1:20:29 | 1:20:31 | |
Tina, as a child, growing up, never got to spend a lot of | 1:20:33 | 1:20:36 | |
time with me but, you know, I was probably a stranger to her. | 1:20:36 | 1:20:39 | |
"Who's this guy who comes in every six months, comes to see me?" | 1:20:39 | 1:20:42 | |
# How far would I travel? # | 1:20:45 | 1:20:48 | |
He was away so much with his career, you know, | 1:20:48 | 1:20:51 | |
that the real, great experience of being | 1:20:51 | 1:20:55 | |
the son of this man, as far as I'm concerned, | 1:20:55 | 1:20:57 | |
didn't actually come until later years. | 1:20:57 | 1:21:00 | |
# From here to a star... # | 1:21:00 | 1:21:02 | |
I think that Dad, when he was rushing | 1:21:02 | 1:21:04 | |
and going on with a career, knew that I was there | 1:21:04 | 1:21:07 | |
taking care of the kids and he didn't have to worry about them. | 1:21:07 | 1:21:10 | |
Daddy wanted me to have a lot of children. | 1:21:13 | 1:21:15 | |
The way things were going, I knew that was not looking right. | 1:21:15 | 1:21:18 | |
I figured that I'd be stuck with having to care for them all. | 1:21:18 | 1:21:22 | |
Now, about that time | 1:21:22 | 1:21:24 | |
is when I got tied up with Ava. Somewhere in there. | 1:21:24 | 1:21:27 | |
# It's quarter to three | 1:21:35 | 1:21:38 | |
# There's no-one in the place except you and me | 1:21:38 | 1:21:43 | |
# So, set 'em up, Joe | 1:21:46 | 1:21:49 | |
# I got a little story you ought to know | 1:21:49 | 1:21:54 | |
# We're drinking, my friend... # | 1:21:57 | 1:21:59 | |
Well, the first time we met was 1943. | 1:21:59 | 1:22:02 | |
I was out with Mickey. | 1:22:02 | 1:22:03 | |
We were married then. | 1:22:03 | 1:22:05 | |
Frank came over to the table. | 1:22:05 | 1:22:07 | |
Jesus, he was like a god in those days, | 1:22:07 | 1:22:11 | |
if gods can be sexy. He reeked of sex. | 1:22:11 | 1:22:14 | |
He said something like, | 1:22:14 | 1:22:16 | |
"If I'd have seen you first, honey, I would have married you myself." | 1:22:16 | 1:22:19 | |
I paid no attention to that. | 1:22:19 | 1:22:20 | |
I knew he was married. He had a kid, for Christ's sake. | 1:22:20 | 1:22:24 | |
The next time we met was when we had that famous Metro group picture taken. | 1:22:24 | 1:22:29 | |
He was a terrible flirt. He couldn't help it. | 1:22:29 | 1:22:32 | |
I took a look at her and I said, | 1:22:32 | 1:22:34 | |
"Jesus, you got prettier than the last time I saw you." | 1:22:34 | 1:22:37 | |
This was not the young, little girl from Carolina at the studio. | 1:22:37 | 1:22:40 | |
This was a woman who was glorious. | 1:22:40 | 1:22:42 | |
She had an air that the other girls didn't have, no question. | 1:22:43 | 1:22:47 | |
Very natural and, of all the stars at that time, | 1:22:49 | 1:22:53 | |
she had less star mannerism than anyone I ever met. | 1:22:53 | 1:22:58 | |
She was sort of one of the boys. | 1:22:58 | 1:23:00 | |
I think she pretty much was always with men. | 1:23:00 | 1:23:03 | |
# The more I know of love | 1:23:05 | 1:23:08 | |
# The less I know... # | 1:23:08 | 1:23:12 | |
Here's your drink, lady. | 1:23:12 | 1:23:15 | |
# The more I give to love... # | 1:23:15 | 1:23:17 | |
I said here's your drink, lady. | 1:23:17 | 1:23:18 | |
-# The more I owe you... # -Thanks very much. | 1:23:18 | 1:23:24 | |
SHE HUMS | 1:23:24 | 1:23:28 | |
# Da-da dee | 1:23:28 | 1:23:31 | |
# Da-da... # | 1:23:31 | 1:23:33 | |
I think a lot of his fantasies were bound up in her. | 1:23:33 | 1:23:36 | |
I think he brought to it what a young man brings to that almost | 1:23:36 | 1:23:41 | |
unbelievable romance that may never happen to him - | 1:23:41 | 1:23:44 | |
the kind of thing you do fantasise about. | 1:23:44 | 1:23:47 | |
# I'm wild again | 1:23:47 | 1:23:52 | |
# Beguiled again | 1:23:52 | 1:23:56 | |
# A simpering, whimpering child again | 1:23:56 | 1:24:02 | |
# Bewitched, bothered and bewildered | 1:24:02 | 1:24:08 | |
# Am I... # | 1:24:08 | 1:24:11 | |
Lana Turner told me, "I've been there, honey, don't do it." | 1:24:11 | 1:24:14 | |
# Couldn't sleep... # | 1:24:16 | 1:24:19 | |
And I should have listened to her - the girl had been around. | 1:24:19 | 1:24:23 | |
# Love came and told me I'd shouldn't sleep | 1:24:23 | 1:24:28 | |
# Bewitched... # | 1:24:28 | 1:24:30 | |
But he was good in the feathers. | 1:24:30 | 1:24:33 | |
You don't really listen to what people tell you when a guy is good in the feathers. | 1:24:33 | 1:24:37 | |
He's a disciplined man in many respects | 1:24:41 | 1:24:44 | |
but he was never disciplined emotionally about women. | 1:24:44 | 1:24:47 | |
I think that that did him in. | 1:24:47 | 1:24:50 | |
He would come home once or twice a week and see her all the time | 1:24:50 | 1:24:53 | |
and figure he was going to keep me quiet and I couldn't handle it. | 1:24:53 | 1:24:56 | |
I was sick. I was breaking down. | 1:24:56 | 1:24:59 | |
He was never looking for long-range things, | 1:24:59 | 1:25:02 | |
it was always for the moment. | 1:25:02 | 1:25:04 | |
How about when gossip columnists, | 1:25:04 | 1:25:06 | |
they write that your marriage is in trouble, these kind of things? | 1:25:06 | 1:25:08 | |
Normal people don't read about these kind of things. | 1:25:08 | 1:25:11 | |
Ah, what are you going to say about gossip columnists? | 1:25:11 | 1:25:13 | |
Hedda Hopper, Louella Parsons, Sheila Graham | 1:25:13 | 1:25:15 | |
and other nationally syndicated columnists had already been | 1:25:15 | 1:25:19 | |
berating my father for a host of extramarital affairs. | 1:25:19 | 1:25:22 | |
He could ignore columnists very easily | 1:25:22 | 1:25:24 | |
but Louis B Mayer warned that he would cancel his contract early. | 1:25:24 | 1:25:28 | |
Dad responded. He moved us closer to his work, | 1:25:28 | 1:25:32 | |
to a 250,000-mansion not far from Hollywood. | 1:25:32 | 1:25:36 | |
But he continued to see Ava. | 1:25:36 | 1:25:38 | |
Mr Mayer was a man who was completely void of a sense of humour | 1:25:39 | 1:25:43 | |
and I was always doing pranks and having fun | 1:25:43 | 1:25:46 | |
and all that stuff and Mayer | 1:25:46 | 1:25:48 | |
loved to have people, well, not people, me, | 1:25:48 | 1:25:50 | |
come to his office whenever he was lonely. | 1:25:50 | 1:25:53 | |
He had a white Formica desk, looked like Howard Hughes's cocktail | 1:25:53 | 1:25:57 | |
and I'd go in and sit down, hold my hat in my lap | 1:25:57 | 1:26:01 | |
and in a period of 5 years I bet I was there 50 times. | 1:26:01 | 1:26:04 | |
He had a string of wonderful racehorses | 1:26:07 | 1:26:10 | |
and he also had horses that he would ride on Sunday afternoons, his own horses, | 1:26:10 | 1:26:13 | |
and one Sunday something happened that spooked the horse | 1:26:13 | 1:26:16 | |
and he had a fractured pelvic bone and he was in a cast from here to his knees. | 1:26:16 | 1:26:22 | |
We felt badly about it and we were sitting around commiserating | 1:26:22 | 1:26:25 | |
about the fact that it would take him a long time to heal because he had | 1:26:25 | 1:26:28 | |
fallen off the horse and I said, "No, he didn't, he fell off Ginny Simms." | 1:26:28 | 1:26:32 | |
LAUGHTER | 1:26:32 | 1:26:34 | |
Because he was courting this girl named Ginny Simms, you see, fellas and girls. | 1:26:34 | 1:26:38 | |
And I got kicked out of the studio. | 1:26:40 | 1:26:43 | |
That's it. | 1:26:43 | 1:26:45 | |
# I'm feeling low, mighty low... # | 1:26:45 | 1:26:48 | |
Frank Sinatra found himself in the unhappy position | 1:26:48 | 1:26:51 | |
of being considered finished. His record sales slumped severely. | 1:26:51 | 1:26:55 | |
Now, is this true - earned 11 million in six years | 1:26:55 | 1:27:00 | |
but you spent money like crazy and you couldn't pay your taxes? | 1:27:00 | 1:27:04 | |
-Had you spent all your money? -Pretty much all of it. | 1:27:04 | 1:27:06 | |
I mean, I was broke. | 1:27:06 | 1:27:08 | |
There was an enormous sense of foreboding in the American psyche | 1:27:09 | 1:27:14 | |
immediately after the war, and what was going to happen next. | 1:27:14 | 1:27:19 | |
Would we really be able to sustain the peace | 1:27:19 | 1:27:22 | |
that we had finally achieved in 1945? | 1:27:22 | 1:27:24 | |
Or was the roof going to fall in on us even more than it had before? | 1:27:24 | 1:27:28 | |
You see anxiety in abstract expressionist painting, | 1:27:29 | 1:27:33 | |
you see it in bebop, a jazz of extreme intensity of style. | 1:27:33 | 1:27:37 | |
But American commercial popular music responded to this anxiety | 1:27:37 | 1:27:43 | |
with the musical equivalent of comfort food. | 1:27:43 | 1:27:46 | |
# How much is that doggie in the window? | 1:27:46 | 1:27:50 | |
# The one with the waggly tail... # | 1:27:50 | 1:27:55 | |
Well, I wasn't doing that well with the record business cos | 1:27:55 | 1:27:58 | |
Mitch Miller was put in charge and he decided to bring into the world | 1:27:58 | 1:28:01 | |
a new kind of music which was hokey kind of music and I just resented it. | 1:28:01 | 1:28:07 | |
Frank Sinatra finds himself being produced by Mitch Miller who | 1:28:07 | 1:28:12 | |
had that kind of perverse genius in gimmicky pop records that sold | 1:28:12 | 1:28:16 | |
by the carload, and Miller expected him to make records like this. | 1:28:16 | 1:28:20 | |
He says, I won't do any of that shit. So, what do I do? | 1:28:22 | 1:28:26 | |
Who tells Sinatra what to do? Who ever told Sinatra what to do? | 1:28:26 | 1:28:31 | |
He made it his business, | 1:28:31 | 1:28:33 | |
going through the deterioration aesthetically | 1:28:33 | 1:28:36 | |
of the music of that time and still finding good songs to record. | 1:28:36 | 1:28:40 | |
I was 14 at the time, I was allowed to drink in MacMillan's, | 1:28:40 | 1:28:45 | |
94th and 3rd and I had loaded the jukebox | 1:28:45 | 1:28:50 | |
with Sinatra stuff and suddenly... | 1:28:50 | 1:28:52 | |
# These are the blues | 1:28:55 | 1:28:58 | |
# Nothing but blues... # | 1:29:01 | 1:29:06 | |
The Birth Of The Blues literally brought me to my knees. | 1:29:06 | 1:29:10 | |
The singing is so virile, sensational, | 1:29:10 | 1:29:13 | |
it's one of the great Sinatra records. | 1:29:13 | 1:29:15 | |
# They say some people long ago... # | 1:29:15 | 1:29:19 | |
I played it over and over. Dimes, dimes, dimes, dimes. | 1:29:19 | 1:29:22 | |
Drinking and drinking and drinking and drinking. A 14-year-old. | 1:29:22 | 1:29:26 | |
He was a buzz in my young life. | 1:29:26 | 1:29:29 | |
But he wasn't selling records, no-one was going to see | 1:29:32 | 1:29:35 | |
the movies and he was making everyone angry with him. | 1:29:35 | 1:29:38 | |
He owed a lot of money. | 1:29:38 | 1:29:40 | |
People don't remember the climate then. | 1:29:40 | 1:29:43 | |
Frank made so many good records at that time that did not sell, | 1:29:43 | 1:29:48 | |
his behaviour made him persona non grata | 1:29:48 | 1:29:51 | |
and I thought, if he can't sell a good one, let's try a novelty. | 1:29:51 | 1:29:55 | |
# My feet were killing me | 1:29:57 | 1:30:00 | |
# My dogs were barking... # | 1:30:00 | 1:30:02 | |
So, I said, I'll do it your way now. I'll do the songs. | 1:30:02 | 1:30:06 | |
Let's see what happens. | 1:30:06 | 1:30:08 | |
# And then I dreamed two dogs were talking... # | 1:30:08 | 1:30:11 | |
My heart wasn't in it I didn't even understand what the hell I was doing. | 1:30:11 | 1:30:15 | |
# It was the doggonest thing you ever heard | 1:30:15 | 1:30:21 | |
# She said... | 1:30:23 | 1:30:24 | |
# Momma will bark | 1:30:24 | 1:30:25 | |
# You look so lovely in the moonlight | 1:30:25 | 1:30:27 | |
# Yes, but papa will bark | 1:30:27 | 1:30:29 | |
# Your eyes are shining like the starlight | 1:30:29 | 1:30:31 | |
# Yes, but mamma will bark | 1:30:31 | 1:30:33 | |
# Your lips are so inviting | 1:30:33 | 1:30:34 | |
# Darling, give me one more kiss... # | 1:30:34 | 1:30:37 | |
DOG HOWLS | 1:30:37 | 1:30:39 | |
When those records didn't sell and it came time for his renewal | 1:30:39 | 1:30:43 | |
Columbia just didn't want to re-sign him. | 1:30:43 | 1:30:45 | |
It ended up finally as a very unhappy parting. | 1:30:45 | 1:30:49 | |
They were, I think, very happy to get rid of each other at the time. | 1:30:49 | 1:30:54 | |
# I'm gonna love you | 1:31:06 | 1:31:09 | |
# Like nobody loves you | 1:31:09 | 1:31:12 | |
# Come rain or come shine... # | 1:31:12 | 1:31:15 | |
If somebody in my family had left me a lot of money | 1:31:17 | 1:31:19 | |
I probably would never have worried about it but I think I was concerned | 1:31:19 | 1:31:22 | |
that I can't take care of my problems, my family and everything. | 1:31:22 | 1:31:26 | |
# Come rain or come shine... # | 1:31:26 | 1:31:28 | |
I was working hard to pay bills and I was working too hard. | 1:31:31 | 1:31:35 | |
Three shows a night in the Copacabana | 1:31:35 | 1:31:37 | |
and I got booked at the Capitol Theatre. | 1:31:37 | 1:31:39 | |
Every week was a week of Mondays | 1:31:39 | 1:31:41 | |
and it rained every Monday, that kind of feeling. | 1:31:41 | 1:31:44 | |
# But don't you ever bet me... # | 1:31:44 | 1:31:49 | |
I was hurting, I was struggling, | 1:31:49 | 1:31:52 | |
but I was managing to make it because we lowered the keys | 1:31:52 | 1:31:54 | |
and all that kind of stuff. | 1:31:54 | 1:31:56 | |
# And you're going to love me... # | 1:31:56 | 1:31:59 | |
A perfect setting for what happened was a February blizzard night, | 1:31:59 | 1:32:02 | |
big snowfall - 60 people in the room because the weather was so bad. | 1:32:02 | 1:32:07 | |
# It seems we stood and talked like this before | 1:32:11 | 1:32:19 | |
# We looked at each other in the same way then | 1:32:21 | 1:32:27 | |
# But I can't remember where or when... # | 1:32:27 | 1:32:33 | |
Suddenly I felt some kind of a snap, something went soft, | 1:32:33 | 1:32:37 | |
and I went for a note and nothing came out. | 1:32:37 | 1:32:39 | |
I could feel myself swallowing my own blood. | 1:32:39 | 1:32:42 | |
I looked at the audience and they looked at me | 1:32:42 | 1:32:45 | |
and everybody knew that something quite serious had happened | 1:32:45 | 1:32:48 | |
and I leaned in the microphone and I said, "Goodnight." | 1:32:48 | 1:32:51 | |
I walked up the stairs and went right to the hotel. | 1:32:51 | 1:32:54 | |
A lot of his friends and a lot of his associates just left him. | 1:32:57 | 1:33:00 | |
All the guys who made hundreds of thousands of dollars with me | 1:33:02 | 1:33:06 | |
never called and said, "What can we do for you?" | 1:33:06 | 1:33:08 | |
"Do you need any money?" At that point I had nobody. | 1:33:08 | 1:33:11 | |
The only guy that talked to me was Jimmy Van Heusen | 1:33:11 | 1:33:13 | |
and he gave me a few dollars for my pocket. | 1:33:13 | 1:33:15 | |
He was in a terrible state. | 1:33:15 | 1:33:17 | |
His ego and his self-esteem were at the lowest ebb | 1:33:17 | 1:33:21 | |
and particularly bad because mine was, frankly, at the peak. | 1:33:21 | 1:33:25 | |
This is... | 1:33:30 | 1:33:32 | |
It is appropriate for me because, | 1:33:32 | 1:33:33 | |
having been a saloon singer all my life... | 1:33:33 | 1:33:36 | |
..I've become an expert on saloon songs, | 1:33:38 | 1:33:41 | |
the kind of things that... | 1:33:41 | 1:33:42 | |
..cause men to cry in their beers... | 1:33:44 | 1:33:47 | |
..because they're...in trouble with their girls... | 1:33:48 | 1:33:52 | |
..and they seek little bars and | 1:33:53 | 1:33:57 | |
it's really a caricature of one such person. | 1:33:57 | 1:34:01 | |
# Hey, drink up | 1:34:04 | 1:34:06 | |
# Drink up, all you people | 1:34:06 | 1:34:08 | |
# Order anything that you see | 1:34:12 | 1:34:15 | |
# And have fun | 1:34:17 | 1:34:20 | |
# All you happy people | 1:34:21 | 1:34:24 | |
# The drinks and the laugh's on me | 1:34:26 | 1:34:31 | |
# I try to think | 1:34:38 | 1:34:40 | |
# That love's not around | 1:34:42 | 1:34:45 | |
# But it's uncomfortably near | 1:34:48 | 1:34:52 | |
# My poor heart... # | 1:34:56 | 1:34:58 | |
It was another one of those nights | 1:34:58 | 1:35:00 | |
when I ended up refusing to sleep with Frank. | 1:35:00 | 1:35:02 | |
I was half-asleep in my room across the suite and I heard this gunshot. | 1:35:02 | 1:35:07 | |
It scared the bejesus out of me. | 1:35:07 | 1:35:08 | |
I didn't know what I was going to find - his brains blown out? | 1:35:08 | 1:35:13 | |
He was always threatening to do it. | 1:35:13 | 1:35:14 | |
# Angel eyes | 1:35:14 | 1:35:16 | |
# That old devil sent... # | 1:35:19 | 1:35:21 | |
Instead, he was sitting on the bed, | 1:35:21 | 1:35:24 | |
grinning like a goddamn drunken schoolkid, | 1:35:24 | 1:35:26 | |
a smoking gun in his hand. | 1:35:26 | 1:35:28 | |
He'd fired the gun into the fucking pillow. | 1:35:28 | 1:35:32 | |
# Need I say... # | 1:35:33 | 1:35:34 | |
And what a night that was. It was a cry for help. I always fell for it. | 1:35:34 | 1:35:39 | |
And then they were together late one night in the car | 1:35:40 | 1:35:43 | |
and I could tell they'd both been drinking. | 1:35:43 | 1:35:45 | |
We had a buzzer at the gate and he said, | 1:35:45 | 1:35:48 | |
"Nancy, will you please tell Ava that I've asked you for a divorce?" | 1:35:48 | 1:35:51 | |
I said, "Frank, you're out of your mind," and I hung up. | 1:35:51 | 1:35:55 | |
Wouldn't tolerate it. | 1:35:55 | 1:35:56 | |
And she was a real bitch too. | 1:35:58 | 1:36:00 | |
In the beginning, the press had been really condemning Frank and Ava | 1:36:03 | 1:36:07 | |
and condoning Nancy for her conduct. | 1:36:07 | 1:36:10 | |
# Have lots of fun | 1:36:10 | 1:36:11 | |
# You lovely people... # | 1:36:13 | 1:36:14 | |
I think, over time, that began to change. | 1:36:14 | 1:36:16 | |
The press flipped. | 1:36:16 | 1:36:18 | |
Mom began to take flak for keeping Romeo and Juliet apart. | 1:36:18 | 1:36:22 | |
But she got legal guidance and she let him go. | 1:36:25 | 1:36:29 | |
I thought by letting him go that they would end their romance | 1:36:29 | 1:36:33 | |
and, in time, I always felt he'd come back. | 1:36:33 | 1:36:35 | |
Always felt that. | 1:36:36 | 1:36:38 | |
On the days after his divorce from Nancy had become final, | 1:36:43 | 1:36:47 | |
we had gotten married. | 1:36:47 | 1:36:48 | |
We were really deeply in love, almost too much in love. | 1:36:49 | 1:36:52 | |
Things all of a sudden didn't fall in place. | 1:36:53 | 1:36:55 | |
She was working at Metro, picture here, picture there, | 1:36:55 | 1:36:57 | |
then came a job to do a picture in Spain. | 1:36:57 | 1:37:00 | |
This is Pandora. | 1:37:01 | 1:37:04 | |
She was bold and beautiful... | 1:37:05 | 1:37:08 | |
desired by every man who met her. | 1:37:08 | 1:37:11 | |
He was having a very bad time with Ava Gardner. | 1:37:11 | 1:37:15 | |
She was terrible then, terrible. | 1:37:15 | 1:37:17 | |
Just grinding her feet into his face in the dust, you know. | 1:37:18 | 1:37:23 | |
This was a turmoil that the whole world knew about that I was | 1:37:24 | 1:37:27 | |
chasing around in the world and I was borrowing money to go visit with her. | 1:37:27 | 1:37:30 | |
I was running away from Frank, | 1:37:30 | 1:37:32 | |
desperately trying to break up with him. | 1:37:32 | 1:37:35 | |
I knew that I just couldn't live with him any more. | 1:37:35 | 1:37:38 | |
I still loved him but the marriage was never going to work. | 1:37:38 | 1:37:41 | |
The trouble was... | 1:37:45 | 1:37:46 | |
..Frank and I were too much alike. | 1:37:48 | 1:37:50 | |
# That old devil sent... # | 1:37:50 | 1:37:51 | |
He met his match with her. She was sexually free and gorgeous. | 1:37:53 | 1:37:58 | |
She couldn't be conquered. | 1:37:58 | 1:38:00 | |
# Need I say, need I say... # | 1:38:03 | 1:38:07 | |
The fact that we were no longer in the same city, | 1:38:07 | 1:38:09 | |
let alone the same country, that took the bottom out of everything. | 1:38:09 | 1:38:13 | |
# Misspent with angel eyes tonight... # | 1:38:13 | 1:38:17 | |
I became an out-and-out drunk. | 1:38:17 | 1:38:19 | |
I mean, I was bombed all the time. | 1:38:19 | 1:38:21 | |
God bless Tootsies, I never paid the debt at Tootsies. | 1:38:21 | 1:38:24 | |
# Drink up, drink up, all you people... # | 1:38:24 | 1:38:27 | |
So at four o'clock, of course, this is, like, "Hey, you'd better go home." | 1:38:27 | 1:38:33 | |
Now he was on 52nd Street, I was staying at Jimmy's, | 1:38:33 | 1:38:35 | |
57th Street, I walked out and it was, like, 20 degrees, | 1:38:35 | 1:38:40 | |
so I started walking, walking, walking, suddenly I don't know where | 1:38:40 | 1:38:43 | |
the hell I am, because the booze really hit me. | 1:38:43 | 1:38:46 | |
It really hit me like a sledgehammer | 1:38:46 | 1:38:47 | |
and the next thing I knew there was a flashlight in my eye. | 1:38:47 | 1:38:50 | |
Somebody was shaking me. | 1:38:50 | 1:38:52 | |
"You're going to have to get out of here. Come on, get up." | 1:38:52 | 1:38:55 | |
And the cop grabbed my arm and then he looked at me. | 1:38:55 | 1:38:59 | |
"Are you Sinatra?" | 1:38:59 | 1:39:00 | |
I was in somebody's car in New York. | 1:39:06 | 1:39:08 | |
We stopped at a light and I saw him | 1:39:08 | 1:39:10 | |
coming past the Capitol like this... | 1:39:10 | 1:39:12 | |
..walking down the street, | 1:39:14 | 1:39:16 | |
coat collar, hat, | 1:39:16 | 1:39:18 | |
and was alone. | 1:39:18 | 1:39:20 | |
It was the first time that I'd ever seen him alone. | 1:39:20 | 1:39:23 | |
And nobody was stopping him | 1:39:23 | 1:39:24 | |
and nobody was doing anything and nobody cared. | 1:39:24 | 1:39:27 | |
And nobody cared. | 1:39:27 | 1:39:29 | |
Is the man going to talk about his dark ages | 1:39:34 | 1:39:37 | |
when his career had that little stroke, | 1:39:37 | 1:39:39 | |
when his voice ran away from home, | 1:39:39 | 1:39:42 | |
when his records started selling like used Edsels? | 1:39:42 | 1:39:44 | |
Nope, the man is an incorrigible optimist, a firm believer in cliches. | 1:39:44 | 1:39:49 | |
He has a philosophy about trouble. Don't feed it, maybe it'll go away. | 1:39:49 | 1:39:53 | |
Sure, I've met Frustration and I don't like him either. | 1:39:54 | 1:39:58 | |
I know Discouragement, Despair and all those other cats. | 1:39:58 | 1:40:02 | |
But I guess I knew that sooner or later something good | 1:40:02 | 1:40:04 | |
was bound to happen to me and here's one of the best things that ever did. | 1:40:04 | 1:40:07 | |
When I read the book From Here To Eternity, | 1:40:18 | 1:40:20 | |
I said, "I've got to play Maggio." | 1:40:20 | 1:40:22 | |
I've known a hundred Maggios in my neighbourhood... | 1:40:22 | 1:40:25 | |
and I may have been one. | 1:40:25 | 1:40:26 | |
From when the news broke in the trade papers that Columbia had bought it | 1:40:28 | 1:40:32 | |
and they were to make the film of it, | 1:40:32 | 1:40:34 | |
I spoke to Harry Cohn, who was then the head of Columbia Pictures, | 1:40:34 | 1:40:38 | |
and I said, "I'd like to play that." | 1:40:38 | 1:40:39 | |
He said, "Well," he said, you've never done a dramatic role, | 1:40:39 | 1:40:42 | |
"you're a guy to sing and dance with Gene Kelly," and I said, | 1:40:42 | 1:40:44 | |
"But that's the kind of thing I think I can do." | 1:40:44 | 1:40:46 | |
Sinatra, from the beginning, kept sending cables to Harry Cohn | 1:40:46 | 1:40:51 | |
and to me, calling himself Maggio. | 1:40:51 | 1:40:53 | |
Signing Maggio, saying that he was the person to play that part. | 1:40:53 | 1:40:59 | |
But I do suspect that Ava... went to Harry Cohn and said, | 1:40:59 | 1:41:03 | |
"He'll die if you don't give him the job." | 1:41:03 | 1:41:05 | |
Or, "He'll jump off a building site." | 1:41:05 | 1:41:07 | |
Their marriage was not going swimmingly, | 1:41:08 | 1:41:10 | |
but he had to get back on his feet. She knew that better than anybody. | 1:41:10 | 1:41:14 | |
She placed a call to Harry and said, | 1:41:14 | 1:41:16 | |
"You know who should play Maggio, don't you?" | 1:41:16 | 1:41:19 | |
That son-of-a-bitch husband of mine! | 1:41:19 | 1:41:23 | |
That's pretty funny, yeah. | 1:41:23 | 1:41:25 | |
So finally they said, "All right, let's test Sinatra." | 1:41:25 | 1:41:28 | |
And Sinatra came up to my office the day of the test and said, | 1:41:28 | 1:41:31 | |
"How do I play this scene?" | 1:41:31 | 1:41:33 | |
I said, "Please, all you do is make them laugh | 1:41:33 | 1:41:35 | |
"and cry at the same time." | 1:41:35 | 1:41:37 | |
Anyway, he went down and he made the test. | 1:41:37 | 1:41:40 | |
In the scene when I'm talking to the hooker in the bar, | 1:41:40 | 1:41:42 | |
I just did what I felt was the natural thing to do | 1:41:42 | 1:41:45 | |
and we did it once, it was very short. | 1:41:45 | 1:41:47 | |
I don't think it was more than three minutes and they said, | 1:41:47 | 1:41:50 | |
"Thank you very much," and I left. | 1:41:50 | 1:41:51 | |
When I heard that Eli Wallach, who's my dearest friend | 1:41:51 | 1:41:54 | |
and one of the finest actors in the world... | 1:41:54 | 1:41:56 | |
-when I heard that he tested for it I said, "Forget it." -Yeah. | 1:41:56 | 1:41:59 | |
"He's going to win it, | 1:41:59 | 1:42:00 | |
"because he's a seasoned actor and he's really good at... | 1:42:00 | 1:42:05 | |
"a fine performer." | 1:42:05 | 1:42:07 | |
For years and years, there's this story that Frank Sinatra | 1:42:12 | 1:42:16 | |
got the role in From Here To Eternity | 1:42:16 | 1:42:19 | |
cos his Mafia friends threatened the producers of that movie. | 1:42:19 | 1:42:23 | |
If I had this part in the picture, you know, | 1:42:23 | 1:42:26 | |
it puts me right back up on top again. | 1:42:26 | 1:42:28 | |
I'm going to make him an offer he can't refuse. | 1:42:29 | 1:42:31 | |
That's absurd. | 1:42:34 | 1:42:35 | |
The Godfather thing is a wonderful story, | 1:42:35 | 1:42:39 | |
it just doesn't happen to be true as documentary. | 1:42:39 | 1:42:41 | |
Wallach's agent asked for twice what Wallach had made. | 1:42:43 | 1:42:46 | |
Cohn absolutely refused to do that. | 1:42:46 | 1:42:49 | |
That was not the way Harry ran his studio. | 1:42:49 | 1:42:52 | |
But I said, "Let's go back and look at the Sinatra test again, | 1:42:52 | 1:42:56 | |
"maybe it's better than we thought it was." | 1:42:56 | 1:42:59 | |
Wallach looked like a prizefighter. | 1:42:59 | 1:43:00 | |
He could take care of himself. | 1:43:00 | 1:43:02 | |
Sinatra looked like a plucked chicken, | 1:43:02 | 1:43:05 | |
just pitiful and that helped in the characterisation. | 1:43:05 | 1:43:09 | |
He was all there, you didn't have to play it. | 1:43:09 | 1:43:12 | |
So we started to shoot the picture. | 1:43:13 | 1:43:16 | |
And all I did was go to work every morning, be in bed at 10.30. | 1:43:29 | 1:43:32 | |
Once I got it, I said, "I'm going to work my ass off for this thing." | 1:43:32 | 1:43:36 | |
-CHANTING: -One, two, three, four. One, two, three, four. | 1:43:36 | 1:43:40 | |
The best help I ever had was from Monty Clift | 1:43:41 | 1:43:44 | |
and Monty was a wonderful dissector of a script | 1:43:44 | 1:43:47 | |
and we made changes, little tiny changes, constantly. | 1:43:47 | 1:43:51 | |
A couple of times, I said to Fred, "This is new to me. | 1:43:51 | 1:43:54 | |
"I want to check with you to find out if the approach that I have | 1:43:54 | 1:43:56 | |
"is proper," and he would press me up about the whole thing. | 1:43:56 | 1:43:59 | |
I went down to Honolulu with Freddy, | 1:43:59 | 1:44:00 | |
I said, "There must be something missing in my script." | 1:44:00 | 1:44:03 | |
It went from scene number 162 to 164 and he said, "Well, do something. | 1:44:03 | 1:44:07 | |
"You know, what would a drunk do at the bar?" | 1:44:07 | 1:44:09 | |
And I said, "Well, drunks do a lot of things in bars." | 1:44:09 | 1:44:11 | |
Bartender, whisky, large whisky. | 1:44:11 | 1:44:14 | |
Excuse me. | 1:44:15 | 1:44:16 | |
Hey, buddy. | 1:44:16 | 1:44:17 | |
Sam. | 1:44:18 | 1:44:19 | |
Hey! Coming out, fellas, the terror of Gimbels' basement. | 1:44:21 | 1:44:25 | |
HE EXHALES Stand back there. Now here we go. | 1:44:25 | 1:44:27 | |
A seven for Daddy, five deuce. Hey, seven. | 1:44:27 | 1:44:30 | |
Snake eyes. That's the story of my life. | 1:44:31 | 1:44:35 | |
Sinatra was doing the movie for 8,000 for eight weeks' work | 1:44:37 | 1:44:41 | |
which was OK if you were a mechanic but was not big-star money. | 1:44:41 | 1:44:45 | |
I did it because I knew I was going to survive and I knew one day | 1:44:45 | 1:44:49 | |
I was going to wake up and say, "OK, it's all over." | 1:44:49 | 1:44:52 | |
I cleaned the house, clean sweep is what I did. | 1:44:52 | 1:44:56 | |
Got rid of my accountant, | 1:44:56 | 1:44:57 | |
I straightened myself out, I stopped drinking. | 1:44:57 | 1:45:00 | |
I was Vice-President, in charge of artists and repertoire, | 1:45:00 | 1:45:02 | |
and Sinatra had hit bottom and I mean bottom | 1:45:02 | 1:45:05 | |
and Frank could not get a record contract | 1:45:05 | 1:45:07 | |
and I didn't know Frank, I'd never met him, | 1:45:07 | 1:45:09 | |
and I got a call one day from the William Morris Agency, | 1:45:09 | 1:45:12 | |
a man named Sam Weisbord, | 1:45:12 | 1:45:13 | |
and he said, "We've just taken on Sinatra as his agents." | 1:45:13 | 1:45:16 | |
He said, "Would you be interested in signing him?" | 1:45:16 | 1:45:18 | |
and I said, "Sure," and he said, "You would?" | 1:45:18 | 1:45:22 | |
I said, "Sure, his talent's still there, bring him in, | 1:45:22 | 1:45:24 | |
"I'd like to sign him." | 1:45:24 | 1:45:26 | |
# What a world | 1:45:26 | 1:45:28 | |
# What a life | 1:45:28 | 1:45:29 | |
# I'm in love. # | 1:45:29 | 1:45:31 | |
On 30th April 1953, he recorded I've Got The World On A String | 1:45:33 | 1:45:38 | |
and Don't Worry About Me and didn't look back. | 1:45:38 | 1:45:41 | |
# Lucky me | 1:45:41 | 1:45:43 | |
# Can't you see I'm in love? # | 1:45:43 | 1:45:46 | |
It was a brand-new guy, a certain confidence | 1:45:47 | 1:45:51 | |
after coming through hell and getting a contract at Capitol. | 1:45:51 | 1:45:55 | |
# I've been a silly so-and-so... # | 1:45:55 | 1:45:57 | |
When I went over to Capitol Records, | 1:45:57 | 1:45:59 | |
Nelson was what they call the "house arranger". | 1:45:59 | 1:46:01 | |
He was writing for practically everybody, | 1:46:01 | 1:46:04 | |
all of the singers on the label, | 1:46:04 | 1:46:05 | |
and we got started pretty good and we just left it that way. | 1:46:05 | 1:46:08 | |
# Got the string around my finger | 1:46:08 | 1:46:11 | |
# What a world... # | 1:46:11 | 1:46:13 | |
A lot of the things that we laid out together were done | 1:46:13 | 1:46:16 | |
with his suggestive phrases. | 1:46:16 | 1:46:18 | |
Frank had enough background in classical music | 1:46:18 | 1:46:22 | |
to be able to describe what he wanted. | 1:46:22 | 1:46:25 | |
He just became in charge of everything. | 1:46:25 | 1:46:28 | |
That control which had always been hovering in Sinatra's soul | 1:46:28 | 1:46:33 | |
was now accepted. | 1:46:33 | 1:46:35 | |
I went to the art department. | 1:46:37 | 1:46:39 | |
I said, "Can you sketch me a cover of a street corner with a guy | 1:46:39 | 1:46:41 | |
"leaning against a lamppost smoking a cigarette?" | 1:46:41 | 1:46:44 | |
Then I sat with Nelson and I said, | 1:46:44 | 1:46:45 | |
"OK, we want songs belonging to a title for Songs For Young Lovers." | 1:46:45 | 1:46:50 | |
And that was the album. | 1:46:50 | 1:46:52 | |
And this thing took off like a goddamn rocket. | 1:46:53 | 1:46:56 | |
Zoom! | 1:46:56 | 1:46:57 | |
From Here To Eternity marked a change in his career for ever | 1:47:11 | 1:47:16 | |
because people were forced to accept him as a force in drama | 1:47:16 | 1:47:22 | |
and I don't think they ever saw him like that. | 1:47:22 | 1:47:25 | |
Prew... | 1:47:25 | 1:47:27 | |
Prew, listen to me. | 1:47:27 | 1:47:30 | |
Fatso done it, Prew. | 1:47:30 | 1:47:31 | |
He likes to whack me in the gut. | 1:47:31 | 1:47:34 | |
He asked me if it hurts | 1:47:34 | 1:47:36 | |
and I spit at him like always. | 1:47:36 | 1:47:38 | |
'I think what made people enjoy it and like it | 1:47:38 | 1:47:43 | |
'was my inner love for doing it and wanting it and needing it so badly.' | 1:47:43 | 1:47:47 | |
I had to get out, Prew. I had to get out. | 1:47:47 | 1:47:51 | |
At Hollywood's Pantages Theatre, | 1:47:53 | 1:47:55 | |
it's the motion picture industry's night of nights | 1:47:55 | 1:47:57 | |
and the film capital's top stars turn out for the annual presentation | 1:47:57 | 1:48:01 | |
of the coveted Oscars. | 1:48:01 | 1:48:03 | |
Tell me about your recollections of Oscar night. | 1:48:03 | 1:48:06 | |
I bought a gold coin with an Oscar on it, like he was going to win, | 1:48:06 | 1:48:10 | |
and he came to my house for dinner | 1:48:10 | 1:48:12 | |
and he took Nancy and Frankie with him. | 1:48:12 | 1:48:16 | |
Whoa, that was quite a night, I was ten. | 1:48:16 | 1:48:18 | |
I look so cute in my navy blue suit. | 1:48:18 | 1:48:21 | |
Little Nancy was wearing my little ermine cape that he had given me. | 1:48:21 | 1:48:26 | |
It was a thrill and he was jubilant | 1:48:26 | 1:48:28 | |
and I said, "You're going to get it." | 1:48:28 | 1:48:30 | |
The winner is Frank Sinatra in From Here To Eternity. | 1:48:32 | 1:48:34 | |
RAPTUROUS APPLAUSE | 1:48:34 | 1:48:36 | |
Erm... | 1:48:54 | 1:48:56 | |
That's a clever opening. | 1:48:56 | 1:48:57 | |
LAUGHTER | 1:48:57 | 1:48:58 | |
Ladies and gentlemen... | 1:49:00 | 1:49:01 | |
..I'm deeply thrilled and very moved and I really, really don't know | 1:49:03 | 1:49:08 | |
what to say because this is a whole new kind of thing, you know, I... | 1:49:08 | 1:49:12 | |
..song and dance man type stuff and, er... | 1:49:13 | 1:49:17 | |
I'm terribly pleased | 1:49:17 | 1:49:19 | |
and if I start thanking everybody then I'll do a one-reeler up here, | 1:49:19 | 1:49:21 | |
so I'd better not and, er, I'd just like to say, however, | 1:49:21 | 1:49:26 | |
that they're doing a lot of songs here tonight but nobody asked me... | 1:49:26 | 1:49:30 | |
LAUGHTER | 1:49:30 | 1:49:31 | |
I love you, though. Thank you very much. I'm absolutely thrilled. | 1:49:33 | 1:49:36 | |
# Fairy tales can come true | 1:49:44 | 1:49:49 | |
# It can happen to you | 1:49:49 | 1:49:52 | |
# If you're young at heart | 1:49:52 | 1:49:56 | |
# For it's hard, you will find | 1:49:58 | 1:50:01 | |
# To be narrow of mind | 1:50:01 | 1:50:04 | |
# If you're young at heart | 1:50:04 | 1:50:06 | |
# You can go to extremes with impossible schemes | 1:50:09 | 1:50:14 | |
# You can laugh... # | 1:50:14 | 1:50:16 | |
He was very, very moved by that. It stunned him. | 1:50:16 | 1:50:20 | |
# And life gets more exciting with each passing day... # | 1:50:20 | 1:50:25 | |
I think that everybody was disappointed | 1:50:25 | 1:50:27 | |
there wasn't some extended celebration. | 1:50:27 | 1:50:30 | |
He wanted to be with himself. | 1:50:30 | 1:50:31 | |
He said, "I just went home, parked the car and I walked. | 1:50:31 | 1:50:35 | |
"I walked." | 1:50:36 | 1:50:38 | |
# And here is the best part | 1:50:38 | 1:50:40 | |
# You have a head start | 1:50:40 | 1:50:42 | |
# If you are among | 1:50:42 | 1:50:44 | |
# The very young at heart. # | 1:50:44 | 1:50:51 | |
# There's a somebody I'm longing to see | 1:51:02 | 1:51:07 | |
# I hope that she turns out to be | 1:51:08 | 1:51:13 | |
# Someone who'll watch over me | 1:51:15 | 1:51:21 | |
# I'm a little lamb who's lost in the wood | 1:51:27 | 1:51:32 | |
# I know I could | 1:51:33 | 1:51:36 | |
# Could always be good | 1:51:36 | 1:51:40 | |
# To one who'll watch over me | 1:51:40 | 1:51:46 | |
# Although I may not be the man | 1:51:49 | 1:51:55 | |
# Some girls think of as handsome | 1:51:55 | 1:52:00 | |
# But to her heart I'll carry the key | 1:52:02 | 1:52:10 | |
# Won't you tell her, please | 1:52:16 | 1:52:19 | |
# To put on some speed | 1:52:19 | 1:52:21 | |
# Follow my lead? | 1:52:21 | 1:52:24 | |
# Oh, how I need | 1:52:24 | 1:52:29 | |
# Someone to watch | 1:52:29 | 1:52:33 | |
# Over me. # | 1:52:33 | 1:52:39 |