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MUSIC: Autobahn by Kraftwerk

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That lilting melody first drifted into my consciousness

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about 40 years ago.

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It's pretty minimalist songwriting,

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yet combined with cutting edge technology,

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the effect was shockingly new.

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You might remember it better like this.

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MUSIC: Autobahn by Kraftwerk

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Autobahn by Kraftwerk showed that the song no longer required

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the sweat and toil of real musicians -

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machines could do the hard work for us.

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The robots had arrived.

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From now on, songs would be made in a completely new way.

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In this episode, I'll show how technology

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met with playful creativity to carve out new sounds.

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The very machines that were once used to play songs

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were now creating extraordinary new music - from old records.

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In the hip-hop world,

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we wanted to have our own sonic signature.

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MUSIC: Love Train by The O'Jays

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The dance floor beats of disco

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were also reshaped by the amazing alchemy of the remix.

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MUSIC: Believe by Cher

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And I'll explore how a smash hit like Believe, by Cher,

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was created with the help of software

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that could completely transform the sound of a singer's voice.

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# No matter how hard I try...

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# You keep pushing me aside and I can't break through

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# There's no talking to you... #

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But there was a reaction to all this sonic trickery.

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I'll find out how Nirvana craved a more authentic feel to their songs

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with a stripped-down sound.

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MUSIC: Smells Like Teen Spirit by Nirvana

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This desire for more earthy-sounding recordings

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can even be heard in stadium rock.

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I'll reveal the surprisingly lo-fi

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beginnings of Bruce Springsteen's Born In The USA.

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MUSIC: Born In The USA by Bruce Springsteen

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And I'll experience how the way we've listened to songs

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has been through just as radical a change -

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arriving at an online world,

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where the entire history of the recorded song

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is available to us at the touch of a button.

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MUSIC: Good Times by Chic

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If you make easier for people to get a hold of music and listen to music,

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more people will listen to music and you have a greater likelihood

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that if you're making music, you have a greater likelihood

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that somebody who likes it will find it.

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Let me take you back to a time when you didn't just listen to music,

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you communed with it.

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And there was an entire ritual

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to how you experienced your favourite songs -

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and it had to be done right.

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Carefully remove the disc from the sleeve.

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Place it on the turntable

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and remove any dirt or dust with your special brush.

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Adjust the volume and settings on your expensive amplifier.

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Carefully lower the stylus into place,

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sit back and luxuriate in the big hi-fi sound.

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MUSIC: Breathe by Pink Floyd

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In the 1970s, I started listening - really listening - to music.

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When you popped a pair of these on

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and sealed yourself off from the world,

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the vocals were so warm,

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the production values so high

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you could hear every single little moment.

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It was very hard to believe you could actually get any closer

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to the real sound of song.

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It was just a few years since The Beatles and The Beach Boys

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had begun their adventures in multi-track recording.

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Bands like Pink Floyd and Yes had picked up the baton,

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creating records where musical virtuosity

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was just as important as the songwriting.

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This is the era of the concept album -

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intricately plotted and produced works

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that sounded a little bit like sung film soundtracks.

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I grew up with these.

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And it has to be said, they were the children of the technology.

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There was no way that a band could embark on anything as big as this,

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even two or three years previously.

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MUSIC: Yours Is No Disgrace by Yes

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Songs like Yours Is No Disgrace by Yes

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broke free of the shackles of the three minute pop song.

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They jettisoned the "verse, chorus verse" structure

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and moved into a territory previously inhabited

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by jazz or classical music.

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These rock symphonies were musically dense,

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lyrically unfathomable

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and often very long.

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Cards on the table -

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I wasn't a fan of Yes,

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but I was a huge fan of the man who brought us keyboard players

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out to the front of the band -

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Rick Wakeman.

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And the machine that allowed him to do that

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was the legendary Minimoog,

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brainchild of one Robert Moog.

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Up until the Moog, what used to happen was,

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if you were in a band, you had a Hammond organ or a piano,

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an electric piano, or whatever you did...

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And it came to your solo.

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The rest of the band would all have to go on the floor -

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they'd all sort of come down to tippy-tappy-tippy-tappy,

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while you did your best to go...

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And they'd all be looking at him going, "Oh, isn't it sad?" HE LAUGHS

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And even the audience would go, "Oh, it's the organ solo."

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And then... "Finished, have you?

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"All right, great." Crank up the guitar and away you go.

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This came along and I remember at the first...

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I remember at one of the first rehearsals we did,

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where I brought it along

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and I thought Steve Howe was going to die, bless him.

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Steve's one of my great friends and he went...

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"What...?"

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Because of the nature of how it's made up, with the waveforms,

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it's thicker than any guitar can ever be.

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It'll cut through concrete, that thing.

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It's the... It's the keyboard equivalent to a tambourine.

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Yeah, yeah.

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It will... For whatever reason, it will cut through anything.

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Suddenly, Bob Moog had given keyboard players a solo instrument

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that we could turn round to the guitarist and smile and go,

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"Up yours, sunshine."

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The little Minimoog for me is the cleverest,

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finest and most important electronic keyboard instrument ever made.

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It's basically...

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To put it into layman's terms, it consists of three oscillators...

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So they're creating each sound? That's three sounds...

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..so, for example, this is just one oscillator on its own.

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HE PLAYS A NOTE

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You add another one, which is a bit like playing the same note twice,

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except that you can have the ability to tune it...

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NOTES OSCILLATE

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And then you have the third one...

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THREE NOTES INTERWEAVE

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You can also cheat somewhat, a little bit - you can actually

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tune one of the oscillators, if you want, up a third.

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HE IMPROVISES

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So you can give the impression of playing more notes than you are.

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The Minimoog could generate sounds to fill arenas with music

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that fitted the epic tales that Wakeman's band wanted to tell.

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It could just as easily be very silly.

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You can do the Clangers.

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SQUEAKS, WHISTLES

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..which used to drive the guys at Yes nuts.

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John would be trying to talk out the front and I'd be going...

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SQUEAKY NOTES

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..and John would be going, "We're now going to play..."

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And I'd go... SQUEAKS AND WHISTLES

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Prog rock, really, was breaking the rules.

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Yeah, we made mistakes - it's not like everything we did

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was perfect or right, but we believed it was at the time.

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And if you're pioneering on something,

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you're never going to get it right, because you can't go back and go,

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"Well, actually, how did they do it, or they do it?"

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Because there wasn't any "they" behind us to do it.

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And when I look back, I can look at some music and I go,

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Do you know what? I'd be proud to do that today.

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And you look at others and go,

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yeah, went slightly... slightly wrong there.

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40 years ago, it wasn't just keyboard wizards like Rick Wakeman

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who were changing the sound of song with the synth.

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In Germany, a group dressed like stockbrokers

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was using the instrument in a much more minimal way.

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MUSIC: Autobahn by Kraftwerk

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In 1974, Kraftwerk put out a piece of conceptual music

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to rival anything by Yes.

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Running the whole 22 and a half minutes of one side of an LP,

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Autobahn was music for driving down the motorway to.

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Kraftwerk co-founder Ralf Hutter hoped it would help us discover

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our car was a musical instrument.

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Kraftwerk were enthusiastic drivers

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and the inspiration for Autobahn

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came from a real life journey they took in their VW Beetle.

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The band's Florian Schneider said,

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"We came off the Autobahn after a long ride

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"and when we came in to play, we had this speed in our music."

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The sound of the Moog mimicked the feel of a road trip -

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the shimmering, gliding notes mirroring the car

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as it drives through the city streets,

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anticipation mounting as it moves towards its destination -

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the Autobahn.

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Kraftwerk loved their Beetles

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and they had this real thing about

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the car and man being in a kind of mechanical harmony with each other.

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And I have to say, driving a Beetle,

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you really do feel like you're part of the mechanics.

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It's quite hard work,

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both turning and moving the gears.

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But it feels like the real thing.

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Kraftwerk on the radio,

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this sensation of driving a Beetle

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- it's pure 1974.

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They caught it in that music.

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Then, at around the three-minute mark,

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as most traditional songs would be winding down through the gears,

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we hit the motorway -

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and a new melody, packed full of hope, takes over.

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A rare non-electronic instrument makes an appearance,

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reflecting the lush countryside, passing by in a blur.

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1974, of course, new music technology was pretty pricey.

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I think it's brilliant that Kraftwerk paid about

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the same amount of money for their first Beetle

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as they paid for their first synthesiser.

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Kraftwerk were interested in creating something completely new -

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something specifically German.

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Although they can't help cheekily referencing

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the ultimate American pop group - The Beach Boys.

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The song's lyrics conjure up

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a sunny Californian world of "fun, fun, fun"

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and the chorus echoes their hit, Barbara Ann.

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# Bar-bar-bar Bar-Barbara Ann... #

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# Fun fun fun auf der Autobahn

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# Fun fun fun auf der Autobahn. #

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Of course, no motorway driving is all "fun, fun, fun"

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and the synth sound takes on a much darker, more chaotic feel to it,

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as the road fills up with big trucks and cars,

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whooshing past,

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beeping their horns at the slow-moving Beetle.

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It's a scenario anybody would recognise

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who'd ever driven on the M25.

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Night falls,

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and in the final section of the song,

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a drum machine, playing a 4/4 rhythm, kicks in.

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This beat, that the band dubbed "Motorik",

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would become the engine of much of their subsequent music.

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Autobahn struck a chord far beyond the busy arteries of Dusseldorf -

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it became a worldwide hit, even finding a following

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on the dance floors of Manhattan.

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The glamour of disco and the Teutonic aloofness of Kraftwerk

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appear to be worlds apart...

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..but they shared a devotion to the never ending 4/4 beat.

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Dancers just couldn't get enough.

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However, there was a problem.

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In the early days of disco,

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DJs were bound by the limitations of the 45 single.

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It may have been the perfect format for the three-minute pop song,

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but you got through an awful lot of them

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to keep people dancing into the small hours.

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The old sound of song was simply too short.

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MUSIC: Back Stabbers by The O'Jays

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Disco was about to instigate a radical shift

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in how the song was created.

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You know, two and a half minutes would go by and all of a sudden,

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you would hear this other song come in and...

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if it didn't work exactly right,

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then most people would get off the floor.

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And me - I was already up and I'm saying,

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"Why can't we, like, go higher?"

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Because you could tell people were liking it.

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Tom Moulton was a New York model turned producer.

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His experiences in the discos of the early 1970s

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led him to think up a radical solution

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to give people more time to dance.

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That's when I got the idea to...

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make things longer.

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MUSIC: Never Can Say Goodbye by Gloria Gaynor

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Tom's idea was to remix the songs he was hearing,

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extending elements like the instrumental bridge,

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to suit the needs of the dancers.

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One of the first artists to receive a "Tom Moulton Mix"

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was an emerging singer called Gloria Gaynor.

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He extended and mixed together three songs

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across one side of her 1975 album,

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Never Can Say Goodbye.

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A remix is taking the multi-track,

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which you have a bass on one track,

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a kick on another - meaning a bass drum -

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and then have a guitar track then you have the strings,

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you have the background vocals and you have the lead singer.

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So, by taking that combination,

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you're putting it together the way you feel.

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If it makes me move emotionally,

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then I'm on the right path.

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That's a remix.

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The song was no longer

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the product of a group of musicians and a producer.

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In some cases, the recording was just the beginning of the story.

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The real magic happened after the band had left the building.

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And it wasn't just the dancers who benefitted from Tom's remixes.

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People were always complaining to DJs, like...

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You know, I just wish something I could put on

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where I could go to the bathroom,

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or take a lunch break and I went... Oh, OK.

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I'll just...you know?

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I'm working on Gloria Gaynor now, just put the three songs together

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and put a lot of instrumentation and make it a whole thing.

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And everybody thought that was so brilliant and I said,

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"Yeah, but I did it for the DJs, so they could go to the bathroom

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"or have a smoke break or something.

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"Oh, is that it?" And I go, "Yeah, why?"

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But there was a potential issue here.

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With the increase in instrumentation in these songs,

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what happened to the singer - the star?

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What was Gloria's reaction?

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Oh, God. I remember that like it was yesterday.

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I went over to Jay's - J Ellis, he was her manager -

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and he said, OK, you've finished it in the studio, let me hear it.

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I said, "OK". So he put it on, he goes, "Gloria, come on in here."

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OK, so she's standing there and we listen to the whole thing.

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And so Jay goes, "Gloria, what do you think?"

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"I don't sing much."

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I almost died!

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I almost died.

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I didn't know... I said,

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"Well, Gloria, the reason I did it that way..."

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And I thought, I can't tell her...

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I can't tell her I made your record sound like that

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where you don't sing much so the DJ could go to the bathroom.

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Well, that's not saying much for her and...

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I said...

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"Gloria, all you've got to do is brush up on your dance steps(!)"

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I didn't know what to say!

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Despite her reservations,

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Tom Moulton's remixes for Never Can Say Goodbye

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provided Gloria Gaynor with her breakthrough album.

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She went on to become the Queen of Disco

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and quickly learned how to dance.

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Once a style icon,

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Tom Moulton was now setting musical trends.

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He invented the 12 inch single,

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the remix, and pioneered the art of the continuous mix.

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He helped shape much of the dance music that was to come.

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Disco itself wouldn't outlive the decade,

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but its influence was to continue into a new era.

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And one song in particular, from 1979, illustrates this -

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Chic's Good Times.

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MUSIC: Good Times by Chic

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Good Times perfected the disco formula.

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Nile Rodgers' insistent guitar

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and Bernard Edwards' addictive bass line

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got so far under the skin

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that musicians just couldn't keep their hands off them.

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Queen's bass player John Deacon

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borrowed the bass line for their number one hit,

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Another One Bites The Dust.

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MUSIC: Another One Bites The Dust by Queen

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So now, you could break a song down to its constituent elements

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and use those elements to create something new.

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Good Times was also the basis for the very first record

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to come out of a new music scene

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that had been emerging in some of the poorest boroughs of New York.

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MUSIC: Rapper's Delight by The Sugar Hill Gang

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The Sugar Hill Gang's 1979 hit, Rapper's Delight

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added another startling element to the mix -

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spoken or chanted rhymes,

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that became known as rap.

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# I said a hip hop Hippie to the hippie

0:20:350:20:37

# The hip, hip a hop and you don't stop, a rock it out

0:20:370:20:39

# To the boogie bang bang The boogie to the boogie, the beat

0:20:390:20:43

# Now, what you hear is not a test

0:20:430:20:45

# I'm rappin' to the beat

0:20:450:20:47

# And me, the groove, and my friends Are gonna try to move your feet

0:20:470:20:51

# You see, I am Wonder Mike And I'd like to say hello

0:20:510:20:55

# To the black... #

0:20:550:20:56

Recorded in a single 15 minute take, this,

0:20:560:20:59

like many early rap songs, was partly improvised.

0:20:590:21:03

It reminds me of another African-American innovation -

0:21:030:21:05

Louis Armstrong's scat singing.

0:21:050:21:08

LOUIS ARMSTRONG SCATS

0:21:080:21:11

SUGAR HILL GANG SCATS

0:21:140:21:19

The rapper wasn't the only star

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in this world that became known as hip-hop.

0:21:210:21:24

This was a form of music

0:21:240:21:26

built around the dazzling skills of the DJ.

0:21:260:21:29

In the late '70s and early '80s,

0:21:320:21:34

in places like New York's East River Park,

0:21:340:21:36

something revolutionary was happening.

0:21:360:21:39

People who had little access to traditional musical instruments

0:21:390:21:42

were creating something remarkable,

0:21:420:21:44

using just two turn tables

0:21:440:21:46

and their record collections.

0:21:460:21:48

This early scene was captured in the film, Wild Style.

0:21:480:21:52

DJs like Grandmaster Flash used small snatches of their records,

0:22:000:22:04

looping and scratching them to suit the needs of the dancers.

0:22:040:22:08

Hank Shocklee, a young DJ from Long Island, New York,

0:22:100:22:13

was one of the pioneers of this new form.

0:22:130:22:17

In the hip-hop world,

0:22:170:22:19

we wanted to have our own sonic signature

0:22:190:22:22

that was different from the DJs that were playing records...

0:22:220:22:27

That was playing like, the whole record, all the way through.

0:22:270:22:30

# The Grand...Master...Flash! #

0:22:300:22:35

Grandmaster Flash and all these guys,

0:22:350:22:37

they were just playing these little parts of the record.

0:22:370:22:41

And the little breaks of the record,

0:22:410:22:44

they would just play for a long period of time.

0:22:440:22:46

In the early '80s, Shocklee formed a partnership with rapper Chuck D,

0:22:490:22:53

becoming a producer of Public Enemy.

0:22:530:22:56

MUSIC: Don't Believe The Hype by Public Enemy

0:22:560:23:01

# Back Caught you lookin' for the same thing

0:23:020:23:05

# It's a new thing Check out this I bring

0:23:050:23:07

# Uh-oh, the roll below the level

0:23:070:23:09

# Because I'm livin' low Next to the bass, come on... #

0:23:090:23:11

From the beginning,

0:23:110:23:12

they took advantage of a new piece of technology - the sampler -

0:23:120:23:16

that allowed them to use other people's music in their recordings.

0:23:160:23:19

Using this kit, Hank created a rebellious new sound -

0:23:200:23:24

and there wasn't a more anti-authority expression

0:23:240:23:27

than sampling.

0:23:270:23:29

If Public Enemy wanted a sound, they just took it.

0:23:290:23:32

MUSIC: Funky Drummer by James Brown

0:23:320:23:35

Sampling allowed Public Enemy to use old records

0:23:360:23:39

in a much more sophisticated way,

0:23:390:23:41

creating songs that were like audio collages.

0:23:410:23:45

The artist who made it onto Public Enemy's sampler most often

0:23:450:23:48

was James Brown.

0:23:480:23:50

The song Funky Drummer was named by Brown,

0:23:550:23:57

after the inspired work of his drummer, Clyde Stubblefield.

0:23:570:24:02

Hidden amid Brown's grunts and groans

0:24:020:24:04

was a two and a half second fragment of clean drums.

0:24:040:24:07

But that was quite enough for Hank Shocklee.

0:24:090:24:12

I call Funky Drummer "milk".

0:24:120:24:14

THEY LAUGH

0:24:140:24:16

You put milk in everything!

0:24:160:24:18

THEY LAUGH

0:24:180:24:20

Clyde Stubblefield hit on what I consider to be the perfect beat.

0:24:200:24:24

And the thing that's so incredible about that beat

0:24:240:24:28

is its ghost snares.

0:24:280:24:30

What do you call "ghost snares"?

0:24:310:24:33

You have the... On the one, two, you have like the...

0:24:330:24:37

The thing on the back beat.

0:24:370:24:38

And everybody just has that one back beat.

0:24:380:24:40

But because he would have the back beat and he would have a lazy...

0:24:400:24:45

bringing it off the snare, it would be very lazy,

0:24:450:24:48

you get this like, "bumbrrrajaba"!

0:24:480:24:50

That right there and...

0:24:540:24:55

He keeps going and he keeps doing it,

0:24:550:24:58

you get this percussive thing that's happening,

0:24:580:25:01

but it's not percussion, it's snare.

0:25:010:25:04

And it gives... Everything that we put that in, it gave it a lift.

0:25:040:25:09

That extra little ccrrrttit-tit-ta!

0:25:090:25:12

Gave it that extra... That little extra...

0:25:120:25:15

That extra push that it needed...

0:25:150:25:18

to make the record have that...drive.

0:25:180:25:22

MUSIC: Rebel Without A Pause by Public Enemy

0:25:220:25:25

# Yes - the rhythm, the rebel

0:25:250:25:27

# Without a pause, I'm lowering my level... #

0:25:270:25:30

Funky Drummer can be heard on the Public Enemy track,

0:25:300:25:32

Rebel Without A Pause.

0:25:320:25:34

It illustrates brilliantly their approach to building songs,

0:25:340:25:37

piling on different sounds and textures.

0:25:370:25:41

# Bum rush the sound I made a year ago... #

0:25:410:25:44

With Funky Drummer as the bedrock,

0:25:440:25:45

Shocklee adds a high-pitched wail -

0:25:450:25:48

a trumpet glissando sampled

0:25:480:25:49

from another James Brown production, The Grunt.

0:25:490:25:52

MUSIC: The Grunt by The JBs

0:25:520:25:57

As Funky Drummer briefly drops out,

0:26:000:26:03

MOR soft rockers Jefferson Starship step into the breach.

0:26:030:26:07

MUSIC: Rock Music by Jefferson Starship

0:26:070:26:11

Wedded to Chuck D's powerful rapping,

0:26:200:26:23

it was a visceral, physical experience.

0:26:230:26:25

PE was not about order.

0:26:270:26:29

It was about disorder

0:26:290:26:31

and it was about the chaos that's happening all around us,

0:26:310:26:35

all the time.

0:26:350:26:37

So, with that point particularly,

0:26:370:26:39

tell me about Fight The Power.

0:26:390:26:40

Fight The Power was an attempt at being...

0:26:400:26:44

..very positive - more solution-oriented.

0:26:460:26:49

MUSIC: Fight The Power by Public Enemy

0:26:490:26:54

# Our freedom of speech is freedom or death

0:26:540:26:56

# We got to fight the powers that be

0:26:560:26:58

# Fight the power

0:26:580:27:00

# Fight the power

0:27:010:27:03

# Fight the power... #

0:27:030:27:04

Great songs, to me...

0:27:050:27:07

If you listen to a lot of bands,

0:27:070:27:09

they all build around the singer.

0:27:090:27:12

CENSORED LYRICS CONTINUE

0:27:160:27:20

# Most of my heroes don't appear on no stamp... #

0:27:240:27:27

I give Chuck just the...

0:27:280:27:29

I call it the meat, which is just the...

0:27:290:27:32

It's our loop of the track, that's over and over.

0:27:320:27:36

Nothing spectacular, nothing's done on it.

0:27:360:27:40

Just so he can use that as a canvas,

0:27:400:27:43

so that he can paint what he sees.

0:27:430:27:45

And then, we will organise that in the form of...a song.

0:27:470:27:51

Fight The Power was written for the Spike Lee film, Do The Right Thing -

0:27:530:27:58

in which it plays a central role.

0:27:580:28:00

That film and that track came to symbolise that time.

0:28:030:28:07

There is...

0:28:070:28:08

There is something extraordinary about it.

0:28:080:28:10

At the time, there was a lot of racial tension

0:28:100:28:13

that was happening in...

0:28:130:28:16

all the inner cities.

0:28:160:28:17

PE was the spark that brought back civil rights

0:28:230:28:27

in a totally different fashion,

0:28:270:28:29

because now, the civil rights wasn't about

0:28:290:28:32

whether or not we could sit in the front of the bus

0:28:320:28:36

or drink from a water fountain or not.

0:28:360:28:38

Now, it was our fight for freedom of expression.

0:28:380:28:42

That was the fight of the police violence

0:28:420:28:45

that was running supreme in the black communities.

0:28:450:28:49

So now...

0:28:490:28:52

It offered people that spark of like,

0:28:520:28:55

"Yeah, we can do this!"

0:28:550:28:57

The boombox that took music

0:28:590:29:01

onto the streets of Brooklyn in Do The Right Thing

0:29:010:29:03

was a classic piece of lo-fi technology.

0:29:030:29:06

Its sound quality wasn't perfect,

0:29:140:29:16

but it gave users the freedom to listen to and spread their music

0:29:160:29:20

wherever they went.

0:29:200:29:21

It would also play a key role

0:29:220:29:24

in the creation of one of the most iconic rock songs of the 1980s.

0:29:240:29:29

MUSIC: Nebraska by Bruce Springsteen

0:29:290:29:32

In 1981, Bruce Springsteen was canoeing up a river

0:29:370:29:40

near his home in New Jersey.

0:29:400:29:43

Like his contemporaries on the streets of New York,

0:29:430:29:45

he liked to take his music with him everywhere

0:29:450:29:47

and so, he had his trusty boombox -

0:29:470:29:50

even on the water.

0:29:500:29:51

On this particular occasion,

0:29:520:29:54

somehow, the tape player ended up at the bottom of the muddy river.

0:29:540:29:58

Springsteen hauled it out, dried it off and hoped for the best.

0:30:110:30:15

The following year,

0:30:240:30:25

Springsteen unpacked a brand-new piece of machinery -

0:30:250:30:27

an early four-track home recording system,

0:30:270:30:30

which frankly, neither he or his roadie really knew how to use.

0:30:300:30:33

However, they persevered

0:30:330:30:35

and eventually managed to record a whole set of new demos on it.

0:30:350:30:40

After the sessions,

0:30:400:30:41

Bruce realised he'd got nothing to play those songs out onto,

0:30:410:30:44

until he remembered the boombox.

0:30:440:30:46

Yes, that boombox.

0:30:460:30:49

He switched it on and it magically sprang back to life again.

0:30:490:30:52

He then made a master recording of the demos on the tape player.

0:30:540:30:58

MUSIC: Reason To Believe by Bruce Springsteen

0:30:580:31:01

Springsteen put the resulting cassette in his jeans jacket pocket

0:31:030:31:07

and forgot about it.

0:31:070:31:08

And there it rattled around for a couple of months,

0:31:080:31:11

without even a case to protect it,

0:31:110:31:13

eventually making its way to the studio in New York.

0:31:130:31:16

In 1982, Springsteen was already well known

0:31:160:31:19

for rousing small town anthems like Born To Run,

0:31:190:31:23

backed by an enormous wall of sound.

0:31:230:31:25

But here, he'd created something new -

0:31:270:31:30

rural noir, a raw, unadorned style

0:31:300:31:33

that reflected the misfortunes of

0:31:330:31:35

his cast of down-on-their-luck characters.

0:31:350:31:38

# Now the jury brought in a guilty verdict

0:31:380:31:45

# The judge he sentenced me to death... #

0:31:450:31:51

One of the first people to hear the wonky-sounding cassette

0:31:530:31:57

was his band-mate and producer, Steve Van Zandt.

0:31:570:32:00

I said to him, "I have to tell you something.

0:32:010:32:05

"This is...

0:32:060:32:09

"extraordinary. This is not...

0:32:090:32:12

"This is not hitting me as a demo."

0:32:120:32:15

You know? He said, "What do you mean?"

0:32:150:32:18

I said, "This sounds like a record."

0:32:180:32:21

He said, "Nah, I just did it on a cassette with my roadie, here."

0:32:240:32:30

I said, "I don't care how you did this."

0:32:300:32:32

Maybe because he never intended for it to be released,

0:32:330:32:37

it's the most intimate record I've ever heard by anybody.

0:32:370:32:41

Springsteen and his band attempted to re-record the demos,

0:32:420:32:46

but the recreations, in one of the world's most expensive studios,

0:32:460:32:50

somehow failed to capture the rough-hewn magic of the originals.

0:32:500:32:55

Instead, Springsteen decided to release the cassette just as it was,

0:32:550:32:59

on an LP called Nebraska.

0:32:590:33:02

It became obvious at some point that there was something

0:33:060:33:09

extraordinary going on with what became Nebraska.

0:33:090:33:13

I just felt it was an amazing piece of work,

0:33:130:33:16

that I was so glad actually got released.

0:33:160:33:19

There was one song from the folky Nebraska sessions

0:33:200:33:24

that didn't make it onto the album.

0:33:240:33:25

MUSIC: Born In The USA (Acoustic) by Bruce Springsteen

0:33:250:33:28

Another bleak story,

0:33:280:33:29

this time about the fortunes of a Vietnam veteran.

0:33:290:33:32

But Bruce heard the potential

0:33:400:33:42

to make it a much bigger-sounding record.

0:33:420:33:45

Born in the USA came out a couple of years later,

0:33:450:33:48

in a rather different form.

0:33:480:33:49

Out went that mournful lo-fi recording,

0:33:490:33:52

in came a rather minimal chord structure

0:33:520:33:54

and one of the most memorable synth lines in all of pop history.

0:33:540:33:59

MUSIC: Born In The USA

0:33:590:34:02

MUSIC: Born In The USA by Bruce Springsteen

0:34:070:34:09

Keyboard player Roy Bittan was playing one of these -

0:34:100:34:13

it's a Yamaha CS-80, big old beast, weighs a tonne,

0:34:130:34:17

cost about eight grand to buy back in the day, as I remember -

0:34:170:34:21

but has a vast amount of controllability.

0:34:210:34:23

I mean, look this section along here.

0:34:230:34:27

The sound they got on it was part sort of Oriental,

0:34:270:34:29

part military trumpet,

0:34:290:34:31

all '80s.

0:34:310:34:33

Add to that a devastating snare drum sound

0:34:330:34:36

with so much reverb on it,

0:34:360:34:37

it sounded like bombs dropping and you basically have

0:34:370:34:39

a recording that pummels the listener into submission.

0:34:390:34:43

# Born in the USA

0:34:430:34:46

# I was born in the USA

0:34:460:34:50

# I was born in the USA

0:34:500:34:55

# Born in the USA... #

0:34:550:34:58

With the chorus hitting so hard,

0:34:590:35:02

the song's powerful message was hidden in the verses.

0:35:020:35:06

That tale of a man hitting rock bottom

0:35:060:35:09

after returning from the Vietnam war,

0:35:090:35:11

which had been so affecting in the original demo...

0:35:110:35:14

It was still there,

0:35:140:35:15

only it had been completely overwhelmed by the production.

0:35:150:35:19

# Come back home to the refinery

0:35:190:35:23

# Hiring man said "Son, if it was up to me"

0:35:230:35:28

# Went down to see my VA man

0:35:280:35:31

# He said "Son, don't you understand?" #

0:35:310:35:36

The pumped up sound and the pumped up appearance of Springsteen

0:35:360:35:40

gave many people the impression

0:35:400:35:42

that what they were hearing was a pro-USA anthem.

0:35:420:35:46

President Reagan even adopted the song - without permission -

0:35:460:35:50

for his 1984 re-election campaign.

0:35:500:35:52

Then, in late 1984, the hit album was chosen

0:35:550:35:58

as the first CD to be manufactured in the USA.

0:35:580:36:03

The patriotic symbolism of the title song

0:36:030:36:05

and the huge '80s production sound

0:36:050:36:08

made it the perfect candidate to launch this new format in America.

0:36:080:36:11

The compact disc was the biggest sonic revolution

0:36:160:36:19

since magnetic tape.

0:36:190:36:21

It introduced the public to the idea of digital music for the first time.

0:36:210:36:26

CDs were presented as delivering

0:36:260:36:28

"perfect sound forever"

0:36:280:36:30

and the allure of crackly old vinyl

0:36:300:36:32

was quickly tarnished by this buff new format.

0:36:320:36:35

What was your feeling about hearing it on CD, as against on vinyl?

0:36:350:36:39

It was shit, like all CDs.

0:36:390:36:42

Brittle and thin and...horrible.

0:36:430:36:47

MUSIC: Brick Is Red by Pixies

0:36:470:36:50

The actual reason that CDs were favoured over vinyl

0:36:500:36:55

never had to do with sound quality.

0:36:550:36:59

The principal advantage to compact discs

0:37:040:37:06

was that they were more convenient than LPs.

0:37:060:37:09

Like, you could put more music on them,

0:37:090:37:11

you could carry them around easier, you could play them in a car.

0:37:110:37:14

The manufacturing costs, in bulk, were dramatically lower than LPs,

0:37:140:37:19

yet you could sell them for more, at a higher retail price,

0:37:190:37:23

so the profit margin on them for the record labels was astronomical.

0:37:230:37:26

Record labels made an absolute killing during the CD era.

0:37:260:37:29

MUSIC: November Rain by Guns N' Roses

0:37:290:37:32

What the CD did offer was clean, noiseless sound.

0:37:320:37:35

This was reflected in the huge,

0:37:350:37:36

slickly produced rock songs of the day.

0:37:360:37:39

Everything got bigger -

0:37:390:37:41

the sound, the profits, even the hair.

0:37:410:37:44

MUSIC: Here I Go Again by Whitesnake

0:37:440:37:47

# Goin' down the only road I've ever known.. #

0:37:490:37:52

In the history of recorded song,

0:37:550:37:57

each new sonic revolution has been seen as a progression.

0:37:570:38:01

But, for the first time, some were beginning to question this.

0:38:010:38:04

MUSIC: Smells Like Teen Spirit by Nirvana

0:38:040:38:07

Musicians were asking whether the embrace of all new technology

0:38:070:38:10

was necessarily a good thing for their song-writing...

0:38:100:38:12

..including the biggest rock band of the day.

0:38:150:38:18

Nirvana were unhappy with the way their record label

0:38:220:38:24

had remixed their 1991 album, Nevermind,

0:38:240:38:28

to make it more commercial-sounding.

0:38:280:38:30

MUSIC: Come As You Are by Nirvana

0:38:300:38:33

# Soaked in bleach As I want you to be... #

0:38:340:38:36

For the follow up, In Utero, they were determined to produce a record

0:38:360:38:40

that stayed true to their raw punk sound.

0:38:400:38:43

And they knew exactly who to turn to -

0:38:430:38:46

producer Steve Albini.

0:38:460:38:48

The band were fans of some of the records that I'd recorded.

0:38:490:38:54

So when they contacted me...

0:38:540:38:55

The first thing that Kurt said was that he liked the Pixies album

0:38:550:38:59

and wanted to make a record with a similar sound quality.

0:38:590:39:03

Most of my effort is expended in

0:39:030:39:06

trying to make an accurate recording,

0:39:060:39:09

rather than trying to manipulate the sound

0:39:090:39:12

that comes into the studio with the band.

0:39:120:39:14

MUSIC: All Apologies (Demo) by Nirvana

0:39:140:39:17

Albini's approach was to let the band control the creative decisions,

0:39:190:39:24

allowing songs to develop organically

0:39:240:39:26

during the recording sessions.

0:39:260:39:28

I think principal recording was done in six or seven days.

0:39:290:39:32

Over the course of an evening, basically,

0:39:330:39:36

Kurt sang the whole album.

0:39:360:39:38

For a lot of the vocal recording,

0:39:380:39:40

he would have a somewhat broken acoustic guitar

0:39:400:39:42

that he would just strum along with.

0:39:420:39:44

And for example, the acoustic guitar that you hear on the record...

0:39:440:39:48

..that was just the guitar that was sitting on his lap,

0:39:500:39:52

that he was sort of strumming along while he was singing.

0:39:520:39:55

It wasn't a separate recording...

0:39:550:39:57

I don't know that the band intended to have

0:39:570:39:59

an acoustic guitar on the record,

0:39:590:40:01

but he was more comfortable singing while he was strumming a guitar

0:40:010:40:04

and so, that made its way onto the record.

0:40:040:40:07

The guitar at the beginning of the song Rape Me

0:40:070:40:09

directly references Nirvana's biggest hit -

0:40:090:40:12

Smells Like Teen Spirit.

0:40:120:40:15

MUSIC: Rape Me by Nirvana

0:40:150:40:18

# Rape me

0:40:190:40:22

# Rape me, my friend... #

0:40:230:40:26

It's an ironic musical nod to the song that had made the band -

0:40:260:40:30

a song that had brought enormous success,

0:40:300:40:32

but which Cobain was now reacting against with their new compositions.

0:40:320:40:36

MUSIC: Heart-Shaped Box by Nirvana

0:40:360:40:38

# Hey, wait, I got a new complaint

0:40:380:40:42

# Forever in debt to your priceless advice

0:40:420:40:46

# Hey, wait... #

0:40:460:40:49

12 days, done and dusted, everybody left happy.

0:40:490:40:53

I didn't do anything special or magic on that session.

0:40:530:40:56

All the special magic walked in with the band.

0:40:560:40:59

Nirvana returned to Seattle,

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having recorded their album the way they wanted,

0:41:020:41:04

capturing the essence of their sound

0:41:040:41:06

without the glossy finish of Nevermind.

0:41:060:41:09

But not everybody was happy with the results.

0:41:090:41:12

Kurt called me and told me that

0:41:120:41:13

everyone he played the record to hated it.

0:41:130:41:16

There were millions of dollars riding on it.

0:41:160:41:18

There were countless people whose livelihoods were depending

0:41:180:41:21

on Nirvana's next record

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and all of those people were telling them they were making a mistake.

0:41:230:41:26

People in the administrative side of that record label

0:41:260:41:29

and in their management company

0:41:290:41:31

were talking to the press

0:41:310:41:33

and bad rapping me,

0:41:330:41:35

saying that this record is terrible, it's all Albini's fault,

0:41:350:41:38

they need to do it all again but they're being stubborn -

0:41:380:41:40

that sort of thing.

0:41:400:41:42

They were trying to generate a kind of public pressure on Nirvana,

0:41:420:41:46

to get them to play along with their plan -

0:41:460:41:51

the plan of redoing the record in a more conventional way.

0:41:510:41:54

And, you know, I think it's remarkable that the band -

0:41:540:41:58

in the position that they were in

0:41:580:41:59

under the pressure that they were under -

0:41:590:42:02

that they chose to put the record out the way they wanted to.

0:42:020:42:04

Nirvana were ultimately vindicated.

0:42:070:42:09

In Utero went on to sell 15 million copies.

0:42:090:42:13

Not bad for an old-fashioned recording.

0:42:130:42:16

Yet all Steve Albini and Nirvana's efforts

0:42:200:42:22

meant nothing in the pop world.

0:42:220:42:24

Throughout the 1990s,

0:42:240:42:25

studios eagerly embraced digital recording techniques,

0:42:250:42:29

giving even more power to the producers.

0:42:290:42:32

# No matter how hard I try

0:42:370:42:40

# You keep pushing me aside and I can't break through

0:42:410:42:46

# There's no talking to you.

0:42:460:42:50

# It's so sad... #

0:42:500:42:51

This classic pop song sounds like it could have been written

0:42:510:42:54

at any time since the days of Tin Pan Alley.

0:42:540:42:57

But when Cher recorded Believe in 1998,

0:42:590:43:02

classic pop writing met with a new piece of technology

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that had a startling effect on the sound of song

0:43:050:43:08

and created one of the biggest hits of the decade.

0:43:080:43:12

MUSIC: Believe by Cher

0:43:120:43:16

# I really don't think you're strong enough, no.. #

0:43:160:43:20

Producer Bruno Ellingham has recreated Cher's track for us

0:43:210:43:25

with singer Patricia Hammond, using some magical digital tools.

0:43:250:43:31

# I really don't think you're strong enough, no. #

0:43:310:43:34

-Great stuff, thank you very much.

-That was great.

0:43:370:43:40

So what we're trying to do is to find out what happened

0:43:400:43:43

when Believe was created -

0:43:430:43:45

and to do that, we've started off...

0:43:450:43:47

You've recorded me and Patricia, our singer, yes?

0:43:470:43:50

-Yes, shall I play that for you?

-Yes, please.

0:43:500:43:53

PLAYBACK

0:43:530:43:55

# No matter how hard I try... #

0:43:550:43:57

Our contributions to the song are now digital files,

0:43:580:44:02

recorded and played back through the software.

0:44:020:44:05

Digital recording has been around since the 1980s,

0:44:050:44:08

but by 1998, the software had become much more sophisticated.

0:44:080:44:12

It works very well as a traditional...

0:44:140:44:16

Surprisingly well, isn't it?

0:44:160:44:18

# You're gonna be the lonely one, oh

0:44:200:44:24

# Do you believe in life after love? #

0:44:240:44:27

So, what have you added that's from the Cher version?

0:44:290:44:32

If I just play that same section again,

0:44:320:44:35

I'll just slowly bring some elements in.

0:44:350:44:37

Fantastic.

0:44:370:44:38

PLAYBACK

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-Now, there's our pad...

-..which instantly puts it in that space.

0:44:410:44:45

SYNTHS LAYER ONTO PLAYBACK

0:44:450:44:48

The drums and the bass there...

0:44:500:44:53

Fade your piano out...

0:44:530:44:55

The major impact on how music is now created

0:44:590:45:02

is the ease with which this way of working allows a producer like Bruno

0:45:020:45:07

to alter fundamental elements of the song.

0:45:070:45:10

In the digital world, everything can be manipulated.

0:45:100:45:13

-So very rapidly...

-We're getting there.

0:45:170:45:19

-..we've turned from the simple piano...

-Absolutely.

0:45:190:45:23

And the voice is sounding different because of what's there,

0:45:230:45:26

but actually, there's something still missing, isn't there?

0:45:260:45:28

-There is.

-There's something in there that is with Cher's voice

0:45:280:45:31

-that we haven't got with Patricia, our singer.

-Yes.

-What might that be?

0:45:310:45:34

-Well, this is our fantastic autotune here.

-Oh.

0:45:340:45:38

In effect, it's a vocal tuning plug-in,

0:45:380:45:41

which has different levels of pitch correction,

0:45:410:45:44

so that you can actually try and correct the vocal

0:45:440:45:48

in as natural as possible way.

0:45:480:45:51

So it doesn't make any difference to the sound of the voice,

0:45:510:45:53

it just moves the pitch?

0:45:530:45:54

It just move the pitch around and nowadays,

0:45:540:45:57

you can also move the time, as well.

0:45:570:45:59

So you can move vocals around,

0:45:590:46:02

stretch words out and...

0:46:020:46:05

So there is absolutely nothing you can't edit now,

0:46:050:46:08

including the sound... The physical sound of the human voice?

0:46:080:46:11

Pretty much, yeah. Pretty much. I mean...

0:46:110:46:13

HE LAUGHS

0:46:130:46:15

If I just show you roughly how that works...

0:46:150:46:17

-You can choose the key you're in...

-F sharp.

-..so Believe is in F sharp.

0:46:170:46:21

And here, we just hit "set major",

0:46:210:46:23

so that will then default to the notes within the major scale.

0:46:230:46:28

What it does is to actually remove any notes

0:46:280:46:31

-that aren't within the scale.

-Right, OK.

0:46:310:46:34

The effect with this is just to put the retuned speed up very fast.

0:46:340:46:37

-AUTOTUNED:

-# No matter how hard I try... #

-Oh, yeah.

0:46:390:46:42

# You keep pushing me aside and I can't break through... #

0:46:430:46:47

-And a lot of what you're hearing...

-Wow.

0:46:470:46:49

..is it jumping between the notes in the scale

0:46:490:46:52

and missing out the notes in between,

0:46:520:46:54

-which normally, a singer would glide through.

-That's amazing.

0:46:540:46:57

I could set it to the minor scale and...

0:46:570:46:59

-AUTOTUNED:

-# No matter how hard I try... #

0:46:590:47:03

You sort of get a different thing.

0:47:030:47:05

-So let's hear our singer.

-In context...

0:47:050:47:08

MUSIC: Believe

0:47:080:47:10

# No matter how hard I try

0:47:120:47:14

# You keep pushing me aside and I can't break through

0:47:150:47:20

# There's no talking to you

0:47:210:47:25

# It's so sad... #

0:47:250:47:26

Bands like Kraftwerk, U2 and Daft Punk

0:47:260:47:30

had long been manipulating the human voice,

0:47:300:47:32

but autotune took this one stage further.

0:47:320:47:35

Producers could now do anything with the voice

0:47:350:47:38

and take the song in any direction.

0:47:380:47:41

# Do you believe in life after love? #

0:47:410:47:44

That's brilliant.

0:47:450:47:48

Obviously, we all remember Believe as being "the autotune song",

0:47:480:47:52

but actually, when you listen back to it,

0:47:520:47:55

they were really rather tasteful with it.

0:47:550:47:56

It was only used on lines within the bridge.

0:47:560:47:59

So it's sort of used as an arrangement effect...

0:47:590:48:01

-That's brilliant.

-..which is actually very clever.

0:48:010:48:04

So I guess the accusation that could be levelled

0:48:040:48:06

is that with this amount of editing available,

0:48:060:48:09

you don't have to be any good as a musician

0:48:090:48:11

to make it in the pop world.

0:48:110:48:13

Would you buy that?

0:48:130:48:14

Not really, no.

0:48:140:48:16

I mean, I think in terms of songwriting,

0:48:160:48:19

you still have to have a good chord structure,

0:48:190:48:21

you still have to have a good arrangement.

0:48:210:48:23

There is... The one thing that has done and...

0:48:230:48:26

just digital recording in general has done,

0:48:260:48:30

-is to open up recording to the masses.

-Yeah.

0:48:300:48:33

Anyone can make a very professional-sounding record

0:48:330:48:36

with very little equipment.

0:48:360:48:38

IMPROVISED ELECTRONICA

0:48:380:48:41

In the last decade,

0:48:480:48:49

recording technology has evolved at a dizzying pace.

0:48:490:48:53

Musicians have been able to create songs at home for some time.

0:48:530:48:56

Today, the explosion in mobile apps

0:48:560:48:58

means it's possible to craft a song without even getting out of bed.

0:48:580:49:02

MUSIC: Get Lucky by Daft Punk

0:49:080:49:11

For consumers too,

0:49:110:49:12

music delivery has reached new levels of convenience.

0:49:120:49:16

The invention of the ultra-portable MP3 player

0:49:160:49:19

has effectively made the physical format redundant.

0:49:190:49:22

Just as people ditched their vinyl in the '80s,

0:49:230:49:25

now CDs have landed in the technology graveyard.

0:49:250:49:29

But does this convenience come at a cost?

0:49:300:49:33

An MP3 is a piece of digitised music, from which

0:49:350:49:38

all but the bare minimum of the original information is discarded.

0:49:380:49:42

You might be able to carry your music collection around with you,

0:49:420:49:46

but it's been estimated

0:49:460:49:47

that you're losing up to 90% of the recorded sound.

0:49:470:49:51

It will surprise no-one to hear that Steve Albini doesn't own an iPod.

0:49:530:49:58

So we asked him to listen to a track

0:49:580:50:00

from the new album by his band Shellac as an MP3.

0:50:000:50:03

MUSIC: Dude Incredible by Shellac

0:50:030:50:06

Yeah, uh...

0:50:080:50:10

That wasn't enjoyable.

0:50:100:50:11

Essentially no bass information makes it through the ear buds,

0:50:130:50:18

There's a lot of low-frequency information on this record -

0:50:180:50:21

I would imagine on other records, but...

0:50:210:50:23

I mean, it's a record...

0:50:250:50:26

It's our record, so I'm quite familiar with it -

0:50:260:50:30

and it sounds odd and alien,

0:50:300:50:33

coming through ear buds like that.

0:50:330:50:35

MUSIC: Fight The Power (Part 1) by The Isley Brothers

0:50:350:50:37

For Albini, the only way to listen to music is still on vinyl.

0:50:370:50:42

And he's not alone - vinyl has seen a huge resurgence in recent years.

0:50:420:50:46

It's once again becoming

0:50:460:50:48

a significant part of the music business -

0:50:480:50:50

worth £20 million in 2014.

0:50:500:50:53

People who are... who listen to music seriously,

0:50:590:51:03

people who want to have collections of music

0:51:030:51:05

typically buy vinyl records,

0:51:050:51:07

because it's the same format stretching back 50, 70 years,

0:51:070:51:13

So you can have music covering a very long time period

0:51:130:51:16

in that same format.

0:51:160:51:17

So you can listen to a Nat King Cole record

0:51:170:51:21

or an Ella Fitzgerald record or a Buddy Holly record,

0:51:210:51:23

or a Beatles record, or a Sex Pistols record, or...

0:51:230:51:27

..name someone from this week.

0:51:290:51:30

For me, the sheer physicality of vinyl

0:51:310:51:34

and the warmth of the sound is hard to beat.

0:51:340:51:37

But equally, the idea that

0:51:370:51:38

I can carry my entire collection of songs with me in my pocket

0:51:380:51:41

still boggles the mind.

0:51:410:51:44

For song writers too,

0:51:440:51:45

the instant access to the history of the recorded song

0:51:450:51:48

has been a creative boon.

0:51:480:51:49

MUSIC: Pale Green Ghosts by John Grant

0:51:490:51:51

Singer-songwriter John Grant draws on a century of influences.

0:51:510:51:56

His song, Pale Green Ghosts,

0:51:560:51:58

melds traditional songwriting techniques and new technology

0:51:580:52:02

in his modern take on the classic pop song.

0:52:020:52:05

# Pale green ghosts at the end of May

0:52:050:52:08

# Soldiers of this black highway

0:52:080:52:11

# Helping me to know my place... #

0:52:110:52:14

I come at it

0:52:150:52:16

from all sorts of different angles.

0:52:160:52:18

I come at it from where I sit down at the piano sometimes...

0:52:180:52:22

and just think about words

0:52:220:52:25

and write the song.

0:52:250:52:27

And then I also love to start with the computer

0:52:270:52:30

and come up with bass lines, synth bass lines

0:52:300:52:33

and just beautiful progressions and beautiful loops.

0:52:330:52:36

The idea behind that track,

0:52:460:52:48

or what I heard first when I did that track

0:52:480:52:51

was just some of these old, beautiful synth bass lines

0:52:510:52:55

from Cabaret Voltaire -

0:52:550:52:57

and that was the backbone of that track.

0:52:570:53:00

There was also the idea from the outset to have orchestra,

0:53:110:53:15

strings, James Bond-esque... You know, the John Barry...

0:53:150:53:18

-I had little bit of that feeling.

-But I love the brass.

0:53:180:53:22

# Pale green ghosts must take great care

0:53:220:53:25

# Release themselves into the air

0:53:250:53:28

# Reminding me that I must be aware. #

0:53:280:53:38

Pale Green Ghosts has the second movement of the, you know...

0:53:380:53:42

Prelude in C sharp minor from Rachmaninoff

0:53:420:53:45

superimposed over the top of that last section.

0:53:450:53:48

And so, it's just begging for an orchestra to come in there.

0:53:480:53:52

In John Grant's world, the gravitas of Rachmaninoff

0:54:050:54:09

sits comfortably alongside the frippery of novelty pop.

0:54:090:54:13

-Do you remember the song Popcorn?

-Oh, yeah.

0:54:130:54:16

Pop-pop-pop-pop.

0:54:160:54:17

-That was something that I know has influenced me.

-Yeah.

0:54:170:54:21

That keeps popping up.

0:54:210:54:23

-I think the band was Hot Butter.

-Hot Butter, that's right!

0:54:230:54:27

Yeah, I remember it was in Tennessee, I believe,

0:54:270:54:30

when I heard that for the first time and we had a 45 of it.

0:54:300:54:34

And it was my cousin Tammy and my sister Susan and me,

0:54:340:54:38

and we played it over and over and over and over,

0:54:380:54:42

which is probably why my mother had a Valium problem.

0:54:420:54:45

THEY LAUGH

0:54:450:54:49

Can you imagine?

0:54:490:54:50

"They're playing it again!"

0:54:500:54:52

# You could probably say I'm difficult

0:54:580:55:02

# I probably talk too much. #

0:55:020:55:06

John Grant is clearly a product of the contemporary musical landscape,

0:55:100:55:14

but I can hear a line that runs right back to Irving Berlin -

0:55:140:55:17

songwriting craft combined with emotional depth.

0:55:170:55:21

Your songs are A, very melodic,

0:55:220:55:26

B, quite confessional as well.

0:55:260:55:28

That's not a new thing.

0:55:280:55:29

I mean, they were doing that all the time back then

0:55:290:55:31

and I suppose that's what makes sense to me.

0:55:310:55:34

It's like, why wouldn't you talk about...

0:55:340:55:36

As an artist, why wouldn't you talk about your particular experience,

0:55:360:55:39

because what else do you know about,

0:55:390:55:41

except for your particular experience?

0:55:410:55:44

Because that is the one thing about you that nobody can duplicate.

0:55:440:55:48

# I am not who you think I am

0:55:490:55:53

# I am quite angry, which I barely can conceal... #

0:55:530:56:02

Why not have an electro dance hit

0:56:030:56:06

and why not have a torch song and why not mix it up?

0:56:060:56:09

Because that is who you are as a person, so that makes sense.

0:56:090:56:12

So in the context of who you are as an artist,

0:56:130:56:16

this makes sense, so just do it.

0:56:160:56:18

# From the top of my head, down to the tips of the toes on my feet

0:56:190:56:25

# So go ahead and love me while it's still a crime

0:56:250:56:31

# And don't forget you could be laughing

0:56:310:56:34

# 65 percent more of the time... #

0:56:340:56:37

I've travelled through 40 years of innovation in song

0:56:370:56:41

for this programme, a journey that began in the '70s,

0:56:410:56:44

with me listening to music through headphones.

0:56:440:56:46

And here I am again today, with a pair of headphones -

0:56:460:56:50

but this time, I'm not alone.

0:56:500:56:52

MUSIC: Do It Again by Royksopp and Robyn

0:56:520:56:56

This is a silent disco -

0:57:020:57:05

a peculiar 21st century phenomenon,

0:57:050:57:07

in which people gather together to listen and dance to music.

0:57:070:57:11

Built into their headphones is the option to choose

0:57:130:57:15

what they want to dance to.

0:57:150:57:16

MUSIC: Shake It Off by Taylor Swift

0:57:160:57:18

While you're listening to Taylor Swift...

0:57:180:57:21

..the people behind you might be moshing to Nirvana...

0:57:220:57:25

MUSIC: Smells Like Teen Spirit by Nirvana

0:57:250:57:27

..the person next to you dancing to Gloria Gaynor.

0:57:270:57:30

MUSIC: I Will Survive by Gloria Gaynor

0:57:300:57:33

Well, this is wacky!

0:57:350:57:37

I can see why it works though -

0:57:370:57:39

it's the perfect experience for the YouTube generation.

0:57:390:57:42

Any music you want or no music at all - you choose.

0:57:420:57:46

So who knows how we're going to be making

0:57:530:57:55

and listening to music in the future?

0:57:550:57:57

What is certain is that the popular song has proved itself

0:57:570:58:00

a remarkably versatile artform,

0:58:000:58:03

one that will easily survive whatever fascinating developments

0:58:030:58:06

technology has in store.

0:58:060:58:08

And I, for one, can't wait to see where it goes next.

0:58:080:58:12

MUSIC: Fembot by Robyn

0:58:170:58:20

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