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Some people believe that the blues is a kind of protest music, | 0:00:13 | 0:00:16 | |
that the blues is the cry of the oppressed. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:20 | |
In this programme, we want to examine that idea. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:23 | |
Is blues a form of Black protest music? | 0:00:23 | 0:00:27 | |
And when we say "oppressed", what do we mean anyway? | 0:00:27 | 0:00:31 | |
Well, in the case of Black people in America, | 0:00:31 | 0:00:33 | |
we mean quite specific things. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:36 | |
First, slavery. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:39 | |
The only reason Black people are in America in the first place | 0:00:39 | 0:00:42 | |
is because they were taken there forcibly as slaves. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:46 | |
Second, racism. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:48 | |
Once slavery was ended, a systematic pattern of laws was established | 0:00:48 | 0:00:53 | |
discriminating against Black people. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:56 | |
Blacks were segregated. | 0:00:56 | 0:00:58 | |
They had inferior facilities of every kind - | 0:00:58 | 0:01:00 | |
education, jobs, housing, income. | 0:01:00 | 0:01:04 | |
So, the third mark of oppression, | 0:01:04 | 0:01:06 | |
reinforced by segregation, was poverty, | 0:01:06 | 0:01:10 | |
and there are plenty of blues about that. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:13 | |
Let's see Big Joe Williams, filmed in 1976, | 0:01:13 | 0:01:17 | |
with a song he used to sing in the '30s, | 0:01:17 | 0:01:20 | |
Providence Help The Poor People, Those Who Cannot Help Themselves. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:25 | |
# Well, providence help the poor people, oh | 0:01:25 | 0:01:28 | |
# Those cannot help theirselves | 0:01:29 | 0:01:32 | |
# Well, providence help the poor people | 0:01:37 | 0:01:41 | |
# Those cannot help theirselves | 0:01:41 | 0:01:44 | |
# When you're working 15 hours a week, boys | 0:01:48 | 0:01:51 | |
# Whoo, boys You can help someone else | 0:01:51 | 0:01:55 | |
# Well, there was a toll a-headin' | 0:02:02 | 0:02:04 | |
# Won't your hands all go lace What d'you say? | 0:02:04 | 0:02:06 | |
# No, I got a job waggonin' | 0:02:07 | 0:02:10 | |
# See every name | 0:02:10 | 0:02:11 | |
# Providence help the poor people | 0:02:11 | 0:02:15 | |
# Those cannot help theirselves | 0:02:15 | 0:02:19 | |
# When you're workin' about 15 hours a week | 0:02:22 | 0:02:25 | |
# Whee, well, boys Try to help someone else | 0:02:25 | 0:02:28 | |
# Well, I woke up this mornin' | 0:02:32 | 0:02:34 | |
# Just about half past eight | 0:02:34 | 0:02:36 | |
# Started down on Pine Street to get my meal tickets traded to me | 0:02:36 | 0:02:39 | |
# No | 0:02:39 | 0:02:41 | |
# Providence ain't gonna help no more | 0:02:41 | 0:02:44 | |
# Yeah, when you see Big Joe comin' | 0:02:50 | 0:02:52 | |
# Whoo, my head be the maestro | 0:02:52 | 0:02:56 | |
# Well, now, you stole a hen | 0:03:01 | 0:03:03 | |
# I want you hen to crow | 0:03:03 | 0:03:05 | |
# Said no, I can't get no, Lord, my meal bill | 0:03:06 | 0:03:09 | |
# I can't live any more | 0:03:09 | 0:03:10 | |
# Woah, the providence help the poor people | 0:03:10 | 0:03:14 | |
# Those cannot help theirselves | 0:03:15 | 0:03:18 | |
# Wait till you help them 15 hours a week, boys | 0:03:21 | 0:03:24 | |
# Whoo, Lord, boy, help someone else | 0:03:24 | 0:03:28 | |
# Well, I woke this morning Went out to the old Red Cross store | 0:03:32 | 0:03:35 | |
# To get me some flour and meal | 0:03:35 | 0:03:38 | |
# Say you can go back home, boy | 0:03:38 | 0:03:40 | |
# Cos providence ain't gonna help no more | 0:03:40 | 0:03:43 | |
# Yeah, it ain't gonna help you no more | 0:03:44 | 0:03:46 | |
# Yeah, won't see me again with my mom | 0:03:53 | 0:03:57 | |
# Happy just by the store | 0:03:57 | 0:03:59 | |
# It's hard, you see. # | 0:04:01 | 0:04:03 | |
Big Joe used to sing that to the people standing in line | 0:04:05 | 0:04:08 | |
for the soup kitchens set up for the unemployed in St Louis | 0:04:08 | 0:04:12 | |
during the Depression. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:14 | |
At that time, millions of people were out of work, Black and White. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:18 | |
But for Black people, it was worse. Last hired, first fired. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:23 | |
For this next singer, Henry Townsend, | 0:04:24 | 0:04:27 | |
blues very clearly came from poverty and racism. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:31 | |
He sees blues as a relief from pressure. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:34 | |
Townsend came from Mississippi, but as a boy he left the Deep South, | 0:04:35 | 0:04:39 | |
hoping to find more freedom and opportunity in the North. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:43 | |
He settled in St Louis. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:45 | |
There, with the help of his blues, he made a living, | 0:04:45 | 0:04:48 | |
playing both guitar and piano. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:51 | |
He'd play at speakeasies and at private parties, | 0:04:51 | 0:04:54 | |
picking up dimes where he could. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:57 | |
# Oh, yeah, Lord, yeah | 0:04:59 | 0:05:02 | |
# I know just what I should do | 0:05:03 | 0:05:06 | |
# Oh, yeah, oh, yeah | 0:05:08 | 0:05:11 | |
# I know just what I should do | 0:05:11 | 0:05:14 | |
# Way you've been acting, yeah, of lately | 0:05:17 | 0:05:19 | |
# I have to get rid of you | 0:05:19 | 0:05:22 | |
# Ain't it a shame, ain't it a shame | 0:05:48 | 0:05:50 | |
# The way things are going today? | 0:05:50 | 0:05:53 | |
# Ain't it a shame, ain't it a shame | 0:05:56 | 0:05:58 | |
# The way things are going today? | 0:05:58 | 0:06:01 | |
# Well, I've tried so hard But I can't never have my way | 0:06:04 | 0:06:09 | |
# Oh, last night | 0:06:34 | 0:06:36 | |
# I was wakened up with my nightmare dreams | 0:06:36 | 0:06:40 | |
# Yeah, Lord, last night | 0:06:42 | 0:06:44 | |
# I was wakened up with all them nightmare dreams | 0:06:44 | 0:06:48 | |
# I was dreaming Old Devil | 0:06:50 | 0:06:52 | |
# Was really gonna get my loving queen | 0:06:52 | 0:06:55 | |
# So I'm gonna have to say I'm leaving | 0:07:19 | 0:07:21 | |
# Although I don't wanna go | 0:07:21 | 0:07:24 | |
# Yeah, I'm gonna have to say I'm leaving | 0:07:27 | 0:07:29 | |
# Although I don't wanna go | 0:07:29 | 0:07:32 | |
# Well, I just came for your work | 0:07:34 | 0:07:37 | |
# I ain't standing round here any more | 0:07:37 | 0:07:39 | |
# So I'm gonna wave my hand I'm gonna wave my hand, bye-bye-bye | 0:07:42 | 0:07:47 | |
# So I'm gonna wave my hand | 0:07:49 | 0:07:51 | |
# I'm gonna wave my hand Bye-bye-bye | 0:07:51 | 0:07:55 | |
# So when I leave for good | 0:07:57 | 0:07:58 | |
# Please don't sit around and cry. # | 0:07:58 | 0:08:02 | |
All the people in this programme used St Louis as a base at some point. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:32 | |
Henry Townsend still lives there. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:34 | |
Our next singer was rather different from the others - Victoria Spivey. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:38 | |
She became a very big star. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:40 | |
She travelled on all the showbiz circuits, Black nightclubs, | 0:08:40 | 0:08:44 | |
Black theatres and so on. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:45 | |
And she made a lot of money in the '20s and '30s. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:48 | |
But she never forgot what blues meant | 0:08:48 | 0:08:50 | |
to the ordinary folk who bought her records. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:53 | |
This song, which she originally recorded in 1928, is about TB, | 0:08:54 | 0:08:59 | |
a disease associated with poverty, bad housing and poor food. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:04 | |
The film was shot in 1976. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:07 | |
A few months later, Victoria Spivey died. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:11 | |
Perhaps one should say that her performance here is musically | 0:09:11 | 0:09:14 | |
well below her best, but in a way, that's the thing about blues - | 0:09:14 | 0:09:19 | |
it's the feeling, the emotional involvement, | 0:09:19 | 0:09:22 | |
the commitment of the performer that count, | 0:09:22 | 0:09:25 | |
far more than the virtuoso mechanics of technique. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:28 | |
You decide whether it's protest music. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:31 | |
# TB's all right to hell | 0:09:31 | 0:09:35 | |
# But your friends will treat you so low down | 0:09:37 | 0:09:42 | |
# TB's all right to hell | 0:09:49 | 0:09:53 | |
# But your friends will treat you so low down | 0:09:55 | 0:09:59 | |
# Don't you ask them for no favours | 0:10:05 | 0:10:09 | |
# They even stop coming around | 0:10:09 | 0:10:15 | |
# Oh-h-h-h | 0:10:21 | 0:10:27 | |
# TB's killing me | 0:10:30 | 0:10:33 | |
# Mmm-mmm | 0:10:40 | 0:10:44 | |
# TB's killing me | 0:10:48 | 0:10:52 | |
# Well, you can just bury my poor body | 0:11:00 | 0:11:04 | |
# Lord | 0:11:06 | 0:11:09 | |
# In the deep blue sea | 0:11:09 | 0:11:11 | |
# Now, when I was up on my feet | 0:11:19 | 0:11:21 | |
# I could not walk down the street | 0:11:23 | 0:11:27 | |
# For you men looking at me | 0:11:28 | 0:11:31 | |
# From my head to my feet | 0:11:33 | 0:11:37 | |
# Though now | 0:11:37 | 0:11:39 | |
# TB's killing me | 0:11:43 | 0:11:47 | |
# You can just bury my poor body | 0:11:56 | 0:11:59 | |
# Lord, in the deep blue sea | 0:12:00 | 0:12:05 | |
# And don't you worry about me. # | 0:12:06 | 0:12:10 | |
TB Blues, Providence Help The Poor People, | 0:12:15 | 0:12:18 | |
they're songs about poverty and disease. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:21 | |
And there are plenty of those. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:23 | |
But in a way, that's not the point. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:26 | |
The blues are not directly about oppression. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:29 | |
But in a culture shaped by oppression, | 0:12:29 | 0:12:31 | |
as Black culture in America has been, music has a symbolic significance. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:37 | |
Everyone knows about poverty and racism, | 0:12:37 | 0:12:40 | |
so no-one needs to spell it out. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:42 | |
Everyone's experienced it. So protest isn't quite the word for blues. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:47 | |
It's not rhetoric, | 0:12:48 | 0:12:49 | |
but a knowledge of shared experience, that gives the music its power. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:54 | |
# I was standing at the crossroads | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
# With my head hung down on the ground | 0:13:24 | 0:13:27 | |
# Yes, I was standing at the crossroads | 0:13:30 | 0:13:34 | |
# With my head hung down on the ground | 0:13:34 | 0:13:37 | |
# So now I'm tryin' to find my babe | 0:13:40 | 0:13:44 | |
# And you know she's not around | 0:13:44 | 0:13:46 | |
# I worked hard for my baby | 0:13:49 | 0:13:52 | |
# And she treats me like a tramp | 0:13:52 | 0:13:54 | |
# I worked hard for my baby | 0:13:57 | 0:14:00 | |
# And she treats me like a tramp | 0:14:00 | 0:14:03 | |
# She must have been tired of living | 0:14:06 | 0:14:09 | |
# I'll put her six feet in her grave | 0:14:09 | 0:14:11 | |
# You know, I don't want no woman | 0:14:15 | 0:14:17 | |
# If she won't pay me no mind | 0:14:17 | 0:14:20 | |
# You know, I don't want no woman | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
# If she won't pay me no mind | 0:14:26 | 0:14:28 | |
# She done knocked her job in | 0:14:32 | 0:14:35 | |
# She tried to drive me out of my mind | 0:14:35 | 0:14:37 | |
# I believe | 0:15:05 | 0:15:08 | |
# I believe I'm goin' back home | 0:15:08 | 0:15:10 | |
# I believe | 0:15:13 | 0:15:16 | |
# I believe I'm going back home | 0:15:16 | 0:15:18 | |
# I gotta find my baby | 0:15:21 | 0:15:24 | |
# She done left my hand at home. # | 0:15:24 | 0:15:27 | |
That was James DeShay playing in his own club, | 0:16:23 | 0:16:26 | |
the Santa Fe Bar in St Louis. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:28 | |
His clientele are working people, like himself, | 0:16:28 | 0:16:31 | |
and he works by day in a chemical factory. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:34 | |
This last song is typical late-hours, after-midnight stuff, | 0:16:34 | 0:16:38 | |
the old sho 'nuff, slow, sad, mournful blues. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:42 | |
But is it only sad? | 0:16:42 | 0:16:44 | |
Isn't there a lot of joy, the kind of affirmation I've been talking about? | 0:16:44 | 0:16:49 | |
# I met a handsome stranger | 0:17:05 | 0:17:09 | |
# I persuaded her | 0:17:09 | 0:17:12 | |
# To be my wife, to be my wife | 0:17:12 | 0:17:16 | |
# I met a handsome stranger | 0:17:22 | 0:17:26 | |
# I persuaded her | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
# To be my wife, to be my wife | 0:17:29 | 0:17:33 | |
# I wanna tell all you people | 0:17:39 | 0:17:42 | |
# I have made a mistake in life | 0:17:42 | 0:17:47 | |
# A mistake in life | 0:17:47 | 0:17:49 | |
# She cut my pleasure in two | 0:17:55 | 0:17:59 | |
# The same as she had a pocket knife, a pocket knife | 0:17:59 | 0:18:04 | |
# She cut my pleasure in two | 0:18:09 | 0:18:13 | |
# The same as she had a pocket knife | 0:18:13 | 0:18:18 | |
# A pocket knife | 0:18:18 | 0:18:20 | |
# I wanna tell all you people | 0:18:26 | 0:18:29 | |
# I have made a mistake in life | 0:18:29 | 0:18:33 | |
# A mistake in life | 0:18:33 | 0:18:35 | |
# Don't ever marry in a hurry | 0:18:40 | 0:18:43 | |
# You may make a mistake in life | 0:18:43 | 0:18:48 | |
# A mistake in life | 0:18:48 | 0:18:50 | |
# Don't ever marry in a hurry | 0:18:56 | 0:18:59 | |
# You may make a mistake in life | 0:18:59 | 0:19:04 | |
# A mistake in life | 0:19:04 | 0:19:07 | |
# Instead of marrying your own | 0:19:11 | 0:19:15 | |
# You may marry another man's wife | 0:19:15 | 0:19:19 | |
# Another man's wife | 0:19:19 | 0:19:22 | |
# When you get ready to marry | 0:19:26 | 0:19:30 | |
# You'd better think long and speak twice | 0:19:30 | 0:19:33 | |
# Think long and speak twice | 0:19:33 | 0:19:35 | |
# When you get ready to marry | 0:19:39 | 0:19:44 | |
# You'd better think once and speak twice | 0:19:44 | 0:19:47 | |
# You'd better speak twice | 0:19:47 | 0:19:49 | |
# If you make a mistake in marrying | 0:19:54 | 0:19:57 | |
# You'll be ruined for the rest of your life | 0:19:57 | 0:20:01 | |
# For the rest of your life | 0:20:01 | 0:20:03 | |
# Don't ever marry in a hurry | 0:20:49 | 0:20:53 | |
# You may make a mistake in life | 0:20:53 | 0:20:58 | |
# A mistake in life | 0:20:58 | 0:21:00 | |
# Don't ever marry in a hurry | 0:21:05 | 0:21:09 | |
# You may make a big mistake in life | 0:21:09 | 0:21:14 | |
# A mistake in life | 0:21:14 | 0:21:16 | |
# Instead of marrying your own | 0:21:21 | 0:21:24 | |
# You may marry another man's wife Another man's wife | 0:21:24 | 0:21:30 | |
# She'll cut your pleasure in two | 0:21:34 | 0:21:38 | |
# The same as she had a pocket knife | 0:21:38 | 0:21:42 | |
# A pocket knife | 0:21:42 | 0:21:43 | |
# She'll cut your pleasure in two | 0:21:48 | 0:21:52 | |
# The same as she had a pocket knife A pocket knife | 0:21:52 | 0:21:57 | |
# I wanna tell all you people | 0:22:03 | 0:22:06 | |
# I have made a mistake in life | 0:22:06 | 0:22:10 | |
# A mistake in life. # | 0:22:10 | 0:22:11 | |
Thank you. Thank you. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:43 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:45 |