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remove a cigarette branding. Now on BBC News it's time for Our World.

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Kate McGeown reports from Manila on how women are risking their lives

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with desperate abortion measures. The Philippines is one of the most

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catholic countries in the world. But some Filipinos believe

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traditional teachings on contraception are condemning

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millions to a life of poverty. A radical plan to provide free birth-

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control is challenging the power of the Church as never before. It is

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not the business of the government to be promoting contraceptive

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devices. We are here to celebrate life! What is the alternative?

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Should I keep quiet? But with neither side willing to back down,

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who will win this increasingly bitter battle between the President

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and the Pulpit? Lunchtime in Tondo, a slum in Manila. For 42-year-old

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Clarissa, finding each meal is a struggle. Large families are common

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here. This woman and her husband have ten children. The youngest of

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whom is a baby. The family home is this one-bedroom shack with no

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electricity. She is rarely able to find work so the family live a

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hand-to-mouth existence. Often we have nothing to eat. When my

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children are sick, we have to pawn whatever we can. Half of my stuff

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is always pawned. To help out, her children work here. In the slums,

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many children have to skip school to scavenge rubbish dumps for

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anything they can sell. It is a grinding cycle of poverty from

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which the young have little chance of escape. TRANSLATION: It hurts

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because my kids really want to go to school. But since my husband

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can't find work, I have to ask them to stay at home and find work. It

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pains me but what can I do? Sometimes it comes to a point where

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my husband and I fight, discussing the children's future. We do not

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have enough money for all of them to finish studies. Clarissa and her

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family are devout Catholics. Contraception is legal but most

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people have been brought up to believe that using it is a sin. But

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now, she, like many others, has begun to think the unthinkable.

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TRANSLATION: I used to believe in the Church's teachings about having

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lots of children. Now, I think we should have family planning.

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contraception is out of reach for many. Condoms are readily available

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but one packet costs more than families like this have to live on

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for one week. The government believes something has to change if

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the country is to advance. It has proposed legislation to provide

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free birth control and family planning advice to anybody who

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wants it. In this society, where Conservatism has held sway, the

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Reproductive Health Bill has caused an unholy row between politicians

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and priests. The Catholic Church remains incredibly powerful here.

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Abortion is illegal. This is the only country in the world where

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Catholics still cannot divorce. So the President's plan to introduce

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free contraception has put him on a collision course with the Church.

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More than 80% of the population are Catholic. And the Church has put

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its full weight behind efforts to prevent parliament passing the bill.

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Bishop Teodoro Bacani says the government is acting in defiance of

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the nation's wishes. When it comes to the Philippines, the majority

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are Catholics. The government will promote and fund an essential

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medicine, can you imagine? An essential medicine of birth control

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which is against the teaching of the Church and, we believe, against

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the natural law. Against the will of God. It is not the business of

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the government to be promoting contraceptive devices. It would be

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like the government passing a law which will fund the promotion pork

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eating amongst Muslims. Can you imagine the uproar there would be

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amongst the Muslim population? Church has mustered a huge

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publicity campaign and mass protest rallies to try to influence

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legislators to oppose the bill. It is a tactic that has worked before.

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This is the sixth time a bill like this has been put forward. Each

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previous versions have been seen off by the Church without even

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coming to a vote. We have an egg, we have a sperm, they meet together

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and then we have a fertilised egg or zygote. Is that fertilised egg

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already a human being? This time, reformers are more hopeful because

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the government has made the bill one of its main priorities. Those

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who are proposing the legislation say that, ultimately, they are

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fighting for the rights of Filipino women. The most controversial part

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of the bill says that no Filipinos should be denied information and

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access to family planning. That's all. And yet, in this united

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country, as if we were living in the Middle Ages, that is considered

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heresy. Why is there so much opposition to information? We just

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want the poor Filipino woman to know that family planning is

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available. There is no compulsion. Every single day, 11 mothers die

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from pregnancy and childbirth complications. This means some

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3,000-5,000 Filipinas die simply because they did not know about

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reproductive health measures or were not given access to facilities.

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Much of the debate, both inside and outside parliament, has centred on

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the question of exactly when life begins. This is the core message of

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the Church's campaign against the bill. It equates contraception with

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abortion, which is illegal under the Philippine's constitution.

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main objection is this - according to the bill, the government is

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going to fund and promote the distribution, as essential medicine,

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of contraceptive devices. In your view, are contraceptives like the

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pill, IUDs, exactly the same as abortion? Yes. There is absolutely

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no direct connection between contraception on the one hand and

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abortion on the other. Contraception means the use of a

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method to stop fertilisation. church said it is not opposed to

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family planning but it says the answer is what it calls natural

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contraception, such as the rhythm method and abstinence from sex.

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own proposal is this, and this should be effective, tell the

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Filipino people, we need you to be responsible parents. And

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responsible parenthood means planning your families. And

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planning your families means that you should try to bring into this

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world those children and only those children whom you can raise in a

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human and Christian way. If the Church and the government and the

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NGOs all deliver that message, you will see that there will not be

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this problem of the poor even reproducing much more. It has no

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relation to reality. These bishops have not even been married. They do

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not know what sexual urges do. To claim exclusivity or monopoly on

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knowledge is always a dangerous situation. Almost one-third of the

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Philippine population live on less than $1 a day, according to

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government figures. Supporters of the Reproductive Health Bill say

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its success is a vital step in reducing the numbers living in

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poverty. What do you think the consequences would be for the

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country if the bill does not pass? First, we will be the joke of the

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international community. The Philippines will sound very much

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like it is still in the Dark Ages. Is the Philippines out of step with

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the rest of the world? Yes. And happily we are. The Philippines has

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the highest birthrate in South East Asia and its health system is

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struggling to cope. Supporters of the bill say you just need to come

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to places like this to see why it is so urgently needed. There are

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often two or even three mothers to every bed here in this maternity

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ward. Because there are so many patients in two beds, for example,

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they just lie down alternating. One will sit, the other will lie down.

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TRANSLATION: At first there were only two of us but now I have to

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share with another two women. 36-year-old woman cradles her ninth

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child. She is a practising Catholic but she is daunted by what lies

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ahead. TRANSLATION: No. I do not have enough money to take care of

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the nine children. What is life like for you with so many children?

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TRANSLATION: I feel happy but I know it will be hard. Did you want

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I only wanted four kids. Meals are basic. But it is still much better

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than any care these new mothers received before they were admitted.

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Many were not able to see a doctor at all before giving birth. You see

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women dying because they do not have any medical care. They don't

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even know their blood pressure is high. For the President of the

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Philippines, it is a national disgrace that this situation exists.

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He is the first president to publicly endorse the reproductive

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health bill. I keep saying, this is not a fight against the church.

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This is an attempt to address a situation that exists where 40% of

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the population never get to see health professionals and 20% of the

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population live below the poverty line, there are 140,000 classrooms

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needed. I could go on. They spend more on cellphones than they would

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on birth control. Although the debate is deeply polarised, those

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advocating free contraception said they do not see it as a stepping

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stone to even more radical reform. Do you think the Philippines will

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ever allow abortion? I don't think so. Not in my lifetime at least.

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There is a very strong prejudice against the taking of life in a

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Filipino culture. While abortion is illegal and likely to remain so,

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many hundreds of women take huge risks to end unwanted pregnancies

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each year. This woman almost died after buying a drink from a market

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on the promise it would make her miscarry. We have concealed her

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identity at her request. TRANSLATION: I am a Catholic, but

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not practising. That is why I was able to do something. Soon after

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drinking the potion, things started to go very wrong. TRANSLATION: When

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I got home I had lost lots of blood. I used all the blankets and towels

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to stop the blood but it did not help. My mother took me to hospital.

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We went to two hospitals that did not want to admit me. At the third

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I passed out and they took me in and operated on me and took the

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foetus out. In this country, abortion is illegal and you're

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taking a big risk to do that. Were you aware of the risk? TRANSLATION:

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It was a very hard decision to do that. At the time, I was being

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battered by my husband. My children were also. I did not want another

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child to go through that. After her ordeal, a charity provided her with

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contraception which she could not otherwise have afforded. It meant

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continuing to disobey the church's teachings. TRANSLATION: I do not

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believe what the Church says about family planning. Contraception

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really helps us. If I did not use it, I would have 16 children by now.

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Even though abortion is illegal, there are some extraordinary

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contradictions in Philippine attitudes. We are outside one of

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the main churches and the vendors are selling religious icons. But

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there are also very openly selling home-made concoctions to end

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pregnancies. The name means to menstruate. The label says it helps

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women who have not had a period for one to two months. It helps to cure

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what they euphemistically call "delay". What does this do? What is

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it for? Is this for women? Yes. stop pregnancy? Yes. Isn't that

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dangerous? No side-effects. Soon, we were joined by the boss of the

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operation. What is it made from? From roots of a tree, from ash.

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that dangerous? No. No side-effects. And you're sure it is safe? Yes.

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The woman soon decides to change her story. She insists it is an

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anti-ulcer medicine. I have tested it. I have four kids. Then I had an

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unexpected pregnancy. I used it but it did not work. But it is a bit

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strange, the fact you're selling these things and your neighbours

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are selling these things right outside a church. No. These

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concoctions are illegal. These posters warn people of the tough

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penalties for selling them. It has to be of concern that women with

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unwanted pregnancies are resorting to unregulated black-market

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products that at best are ineffectual and at worst may kill

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them. Less than 100 metres away, the faithful are at prayer. The

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Church has an unusual ally in its attempt to deliver a knockout blow

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to the reproductive health bill. This is arguably the most famous

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and most loved Filipino in the world. An international boxing

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champion eight times over. He has used his sporting success to win

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election to Congress and now has thrown his weight behind the

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church's campaign. TRANSLATION: If we believe in God, we should follow

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what he tells us. There are laws being passed in Congress which are

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against the will of God. But the Church's publicity coup backfired

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when shortly after he made the comments, his wife revealed that

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she had been using the pill because she did not want any more children.

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It is not clear what the result of all this lobbying will be. Both

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sides have been here many times before and there have been no

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definite results. Why do you think that this Bill has been put forward

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five times and has never succeeded? Because the fear of the Catholic

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vote. It has never been proven that there is such a thing as a Catholic

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vote' and yet this thing still continues to haunt every single

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member of the Philippine Congress. They are afraid that in the next

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election, if they vote for the Reproductive Health Bill, they

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might lose. If the Bill is passed, the Church has no intention of that

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being an end to the matter. It intends to challenge the verdict in

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the Philippine Supreme Court and the bishops insist it is the

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politicians, not Catholic values, that are holding the country back.

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The greater cause of poverty in the Philippines is corruption. Secondly,

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this government, the lack of good government. Our population problem

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is not that there are too many Philippines, but that they are not

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distributed well. Neither is the wealth. As the nation grapples with

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questions of belief and conscience, who will back down first? The

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Church or the state? How far are you prepared to push it? What is

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the alternative? Should I keep quiet? I was brought up a Catholic

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and we are taught that when we're called before the Almighty, we will

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be asked, what we have done to help our brethren? I could not in good

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conscience allow the status quo to continue. Today, this woman can

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afford to send some of her children to school for the afternoon. It

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will not be long before their education is interrupted again to

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help earn money for the family to survive. It is a hard life and one

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which she hopes her children will not have to endure forever.

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Meanwhile, the Church's sermons have begun to grate. TRANSLATION: I

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would ask the priests if they're going to help us if we have this

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many children, will you help feed our family and bring them to

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