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genital mutilation in Gambia. We follow local activists as they try | :00:00. | :00:00. | |
to persuade professional cutters to put an end to the centuries`old | :00:00. | :00:08. | |
tradition. 140 million women worldwide at elite | :00:09. | :00:12. | |
to be suffering from the consequences of having been | :00:13. | :00:16. | |
genitally mutilated. The majority in Africa. | :00:17. | :00:25. | |
In essence, it is about control over women's bodies, control of a | :00:26. | :00:36. | |
pleasure for women. It is often condoned by governments, and | :00:37. | :00:42. | |
encouraged by religious leaders. In Europe, female genital mutilation is | :00:43. | :00:48. | |
illegal, and yet the European government appears reluctant to help | :00:49. | :00:52. | |
those who flee Africa, because they don't want to mutilate young girls. | :00:53. | :01:04. | |
I said to my mind, I will never do it. Why doesn't the outside world do | :01:05. | :01:12. | |
more to help those communities in Africa who want to stop female | :01:13. | :01:14. | |
mutilations? A village in the Gambia celebrates | :01:15. | :01:51. | |
the decision to drop the knife, as they call it here. The songs were | :01:52. | :02:00. | |
written decades ago, to applaud the skill of the cutters and their duty | :02:01. | :02:09. | |
to purify young girls. The women here have been persuaded by local | :02:10. | :02:14. | |
campaigners to abandon the custom. They have changed the lyrics, to | :02:15. | :02:18. | |
rejoice in the chants of sexual fulfilment and freedom from pain, | :02:19. | :02:21. | |
now offered to the next generation. So why, 3000 miles away, is Fatima, | :02:22. | :02:48. | |
a 23 of mother the Gambia, seeking asylum in the UK? She doesn't want | :02:49. | :02:54. | |
to show her face, because she doesn't want the neighbours in the | :02:55. | :02:56. | |
north of England where she lives with her three`year`old daughter, to | :02:57. | :03:02. | |
know that she has been cut. It happened when I was nearly ten, and | :03:03. | :03:11. | |
they would take you, to the bush, . 200 of us were taken, most of us | :03:12. | :03:19. | |
primary school kids. They would just lay you down, holding your legs, two | :03:20. | :03:29. | |
people holding your legs. Then they would just cut it. And then, that is | :03:30. | :03:35. | |
it. And you cry for the rest of the day. Can you describe the pain?The | :03:36. | :03:43. | |
pain was more painful than giving birth, because you have to live with | :03:44. | :03:50. | |
it for the rest of your life. Why are you claiming asylum in this | :03:51. | :03:54. | |
country? Because I think it is not right to be cut, and I fear that my | :03:55. | :04:00. | |
daughter will be cut we go back to Gambia. Why are you so frightened? | :04:01. | :04:10. | |
If we go back to Gambia, might daughter will have no chance to stay | :04:11. | :04:16. | |
there without being cut. Although the threat of female genital | :04:17. | :04:18. | |
mutilation is recognised in the UK as a reason for asylum, Fatima has | :04:19. | :04:23. | |
been rejected. She and her daughter could be deported any day. I go to | :04:24. | :04:38. | |
the Gambia to find out if Fatima is telling the truth about the threat | :04:39. | :04:45. | |
to her daughter. This woman, from a campaign against traditional | :04:46. | :04:50. | |
practices in Gambia, explains that they persuaded about a third of the | :04:51. | :04:54. | |
community here to drop the knife. But, through lack of resources, | :04:55. | :04:58. | |
there are many areas they have not yet reached, including the village | :04:59. | :05:06. | |
where Fatima comes from. It isn't difficult to get to Fatima's | :05:07. | :05:11. | |
village, about one hour's drive from the capital, Banjul. But no British | :05:12. | :05:29. | |
journalist has made the journey. She is in no doubt as to what will | :05:30. | :05:31. | |
happen if her daughter and granddaughter return. | :05:32. | :05:46. | |
If your daughter comes back here and says she does not want her daughter | :05:47. | :06:00. | |
to be cut... And what if they were to come here to Fatima's village, to | :06:01. | :06:04. | |
start a campaign to stop female genital mutilation? Do you think it | :06:05. | :06:10. | |
will work? We can't say, says this woman. It is up to our elders. It is | :06:11. | :06:14. | |
our tradition, says another, we can't change anything. | :06:15. | :06:32. | |
She explains to the man in charge here the avoidable health problems | :06:33. | :06:38. | |
associated with female genital mutilation. Children dying from loss | :06:39. | :06:44. | |
of blood and infection, and death in childbirth, all of which are | :06:45. | :06:53. | |
normally blamed on witchcraft. They listen and tell her she can come | :06:54. | :06:57. | |
again for another meeting. From here it could take four years to arrive | :06:58. | :07:01. | |
at a formal agreement to drop the knife. If it is stopped here, this | :07:02. | :07:12. | |
would be the last batch of girls who would the victims and survivors of | :07:13. | :07:19. | |
female genital mutilation. Gambia is a tiny country that runs along the | :07:20. | :07:29. | |
banks of the River Gambia. The campaign to stop female genital | :07:30. | :07:34. | |
mutilation has had its greatest effect here. This woman explains | :07:35. | :07:43. | |
why. They are left alone in their own corner, doing whatever they were | :07:44. | :07:46. | |
doing, no one exposes them to any information. Luckily, when we | :07:47. | :07:52. | |
intervene, we are able to get information to them, we were able to | :07:53. | :07:56. | |
engage with the information, internalise it, express themselves. | :07:57. | :07:59. | |
Then they realised this was the truth. The stone circles of Gambia | :08:00. | :08:18. | |
tell of a syllable `` civilisation thousands of years old. Despite 20 | :08:19. | :08:26. | |
years of campaigning, the organisation believes that 80% of | :08:27. | :08:30. | |
girls in the country are at risk of being cut today. What is the | :08:31. | :08:37. | |
reasoning behind the practice? It is about control over female sexuality. | :08:38. | :08:41. | |
Controlling them from the pressure they get out of the erogenous zones, | :08:42. | :08:47. | |
it is about adjoining sex, the integrity of the woman, something | :08:48. | :08:52. | |
that is very powerful. You will find that the essence is all about | :08:53. | :08:55. | |
control over women's bodies, control over pleasure for women. The | :08:56. | :09:04. | |
organisation invitee to go with them to the northern bank of the river. | :09:05. | :09:11. | |
They want to show me how they try to persuade those who do the cutting to | :09:12. | :09:20. | |
change jobs. We meet with a group of cutters. Some of the thousands | :09:21. | :09:34. | |
employed in the country. This group tell the woman that they enjoy the | :09:35. | :09:42. | |
respect they get in the community. And, were well paid, says one. $3 | :09:43. | :09:48. | |
per child, plus a bag of rice and closing. I cut 40 children this | :09:49. | :09:53. | |
year, says another. I cut my granddaughter, and look how well she | :09:54. | :09:55. | |
looks. Cutters admit to cutting girls sent | :09:56. | :11:08. | |
here from abroad to be mutilated, even though that is a crime in the | :11:09. | :11:10. | |
UK. She took me to see the local cutting | :11:11. | :11:42. | |
filled out in the bush. `` cutting field. | :11:43. | :12:02. | |
She showed me a tree with notches, each one a record of a Charles who | :12:03. | :12:12. | |
had been cut. `` a child who had been cut. | :12:13. | :12:23. | |
But if the girls are sitting there waiting, and they hear the girl | :12:24. | :12:29. | |
being cut screaming, why don't they run away? | :12:30. | :12:41. | |
But she no longer comes here to cut. She has been persuaded by a | :12:42. | :12:52. | |
$150 grant from GAMCOTRAP to invest in a bakery which pays enough money | :12:53. | :12:55. | |
to stop working as a cutter. So far, no one in the village has | :12:56. | :13:23. | |
come forward to take place and the girls remain intact. `` take her | :13:24. | :13:36. | |
place. In a nearby village, this woman was also tempted by a similar | :13:37. | :13:42. | |
grant to become a goat herd. How many girls did she cut? `` goat | :13:43. | :13:50. | |
herd. `` goat herder. It is hard to understand why, at the | :13:51. | :14:29. | |
cost of just $150 to persuade a cutter to change jobs, more help is | :14:30. | :14:33. | |
not given to those who are trying to fix the problem before it drives are | :14:34. | :14:38. | |
we meant to ask for a silent in the UK. `` before it drives are women to | :14:39. | :14:46. | |
ask for a silent in the UK. In West London, at a shelter to asylum | :14:47. | :14:53. | |
seekers from all over the world, a 40 `year`old woman from the Gambia | :14:54. | :14:59. | |
has fled her destiny to be eight cutter like a grandmother and her | :15:00. | :15:01. | |
mother who trained her to uphold the family tradition. When I was like, | :15:02. | :15:09. | |
15, I started cutting the girls and seeing what happened. That is when I | :15:10. | :15:17. | |
started training. I was going to school and they had to stop me going | :15:18. | :15:22. | |
to school. I would look after the girls. She told me she too came from | :15:23. | :15:25. | |
a village not far from the capital. The trouble is, we have not any | :15:26. | :15:49. | |
impact here yet. We have had a programme with young people once. We | :15:50. | :15:53. | |
have not had the great support we have had in other regions. I made my | :15:54. | :16:05. | |
way to the village where I found a woman who took me to wear her sister | :16:06. | :16:09. | |
was trained and where the cutting that took place. She opened a box | :16:10. | :16:20. | |
filled with dirty rags. What are these things? | :16:21. | :16:34. | |
The brakes are also used to blindfold the children so they | :16:35. | :16:40. | |
cannot see who is cutting them. `` the rags. They have been used | :16:41. | :16:47. | |
recently by another Carter. The cutting takes place here? It was | :16:48. | :16:51. | |
after my `` this woman was required to hold her five`year`old daughter | :16:52. | :17:04. | |
that she decided to run away. She was screaming and calling, mamma. | :17:05. | :17:14. | |
There is nothing that mum can do. Tears were coming to my eyes. I said | :17:15. | :17:23. | |
to myself, whatever happens, I cannot do this. If I tell it to the | :17:24. | :17:30. | |
people, would not here so I just kept it in my mind this thing... I | :17:31. | :17:39. | |
would never, never do it. I would never do it. And that is when I `` | :17:40. | :17:48. | |
she believes she will be killed when she returns home. Her younger sister | :17:49. | :17:54. | |
is angry with her, complaining that her daughter is waiting to be cut | :17:55. | :17:58. | |
and there are other cousins waiting because in their family, only she | :17:59. | :18:00. | |
can do it. I was taken to meet her children. | :18:01. | :18:22. | |
Five of them who now win with a family friend away from the village | :18:23. | :18:28. | |
and the hostility they are. They have not seen their mother since she | :18:29. | :18:33. | |
fled to the UK four years ago. I met your mum, she sent her love to you | :18:34. | :18:40. | |
and she is thinking about you a lot. She is thinking about you all the | :18:41. | :18:43. | |
time and says that she misses you a lot. Do you understand?They | :18:44. | :18:48. | |
understand. The children are suffering? They are suffering. They | :18:49. | :18:59. | |
are sad. I have to comfort them. I do not know when or if the mother | :19:00. | :19:08. | |
will come. I miss my children a lot. And I know they miss me. If I go | :19:09. | :19:11. | |
home to do the cutting, And I know they miss me. If I go | :19:12. | :19:25. | |
Sometimes I think for my kids, I have to go back and continue the | :19:26. | :19:29. | |
cutting but when I think of that, because of my children, how many | :19:30. | :19:33. | |
girls am I going to cut? How many girls am I going to affect? How many | :19:34. | :19:39. | |
girls might going to put in the where I am in? Then, there are the | :19:40. | :19:46. | |
threats against it should she returned. I asked her older sister | :19:47. | :19:48. | |
what would happen. Your mother decided that the second | :19:49. | :20:12. | |
daughter should be the Carter. Her mother and others in the community | :20:13. | :20:15. | |
confirmed to be that she would be punished if she returned and refuse | :20:16. | :20:22. | |
to cut the UK border agency do not believe her story and have rejected | :20:23. | :20:27. | |
her asylum claim. She now faces deportation from the UK back here to | :20:28. | :20:36. | |
the Gambia. The British government say they do support the fight | :20:37. | :20:42. | |
against FGM in the Gambia but they do not comment on individual asylum | :20:43. | :20:48. | |
cases. But, in rejecting both these women, the UK border agency revealed | :20:49. | :20:55. | |
a woeful ignorance of the situation here. They told of the women to | :20:56. | :21:02. | |
return to the Gambia and simply relocate. They have been advised to | :21:03. | :21:07. | |
go and live in the capital and to socialise our monk educated groups. | :21:08. | :21:14. | |
`` amongst. At either woman is educated and Gambia is a country of | :21:15. | :21:21. | |
just 1.5 million people ` all of whom are identified by their tried | :21:22. | :21:25. | |
and community. Gambia it is a very small country. The government will | :21:26. | :21:34. | |
not look after you when you have to live on your own and me, being | :21:35. | :21:40. | |
somebody who did not go to school that much, the only way can live | :21:41. | :21:47. | |
there is maybe to be a prostitute. As a single mother, they will | :21:48. | :21:53. | |
clarify `` qualify you as a bad woman. Will not be part of society. | :21:54. | :21:58. | |
The border agencies say it is a safer the women to return to the | :21:59. | :22:05. | |
Gambia but FGM is illegal here. The president runs an autocratic style | :22:06. | :22:09. | |
of government and has recently withdrawn from the Commonwealth, | :22:10. | :22:16. | |
accusing it of being neocolonial. He has boasted in the past that he | :22:17. | :22:22. | |
could cure HIV/Aids by the laying of his hand and the FGM is part of the | :22:23. | :22:36. | |
culture. The chief imam creatures that FGM is inscribed in Islamic law | :22:37. | :22:41. | |
and that genital mutilation is good for women. Why? | :22:42. | :23:41. | |
I have had a clitoris to 60 years and it has never happened to me. It | :23:42. | :23:51. | |
would be funny, except that the imam has ordered his community not to | :23:52. | :23:57. | |
attend any meetings organised by GAMCOTRAP. The anti` FGM campaign | :23:58. | :24:06. | |
have argued that cutting is not part of the Muslim religion. They asked | :24:07. | :24:10. | |
the opinion of some of the most respect that religious authorities | :24:11. | :24:15. | |
in the Islamic world. We have got given an imam from Saudi Arabia in | :24:16. | :24:23. | |
2005. He came and he was questioned about it and he said they did not do | :24:24. | :24:28. | |
that in Saudi Arabia and we all look to Saudi Arabia. If it is not a | :24:29. | :24:34. | |
practice done that, I do not see why religion should be the reason. What | :24:35. | :24:41. | |
is happening in Gambia, for me, it is not correct. It is hard not to | :24:42. | :24:52. | |
get caught up in the euphoria when a community does, against all the | :24:53. | :24:59. | |
odds, agreed to drop the knife. But the reality is, it will be a long, | :25:00. | :25:04. | |
hard fight before the campaigners can celebrate the Gambia is an FGM | :25:05. | :25:14. | |
free country. They argue that a more humane to, and lightened approach by | :25:15. | :25:19. | |
the Gambia government, their religious leaders and their former | :25:20. | :25:24. | |
colonisers in the UK, would go a long way to read Gambia of this | :25:25. | :25:30. | |
brutal crack this. `` to read the Gambia. | :25:31. | :25:37. | |
unpretty double. You will have rain, sunshine, wind but the good | :25:38. | :26:19. | |
news is that where the sun does come out, it will feel relatively warm | :26:20. | :26:22. | |
least across the majority of the country. As far as the night is | :26:23. | :26:28. | |
concerned, it is a wet across the UK. Waiters across Scotland. Through | :26:29. | :26:37. | |
the course of Saturday, rain across the west of Scotland but she was | :26:38. | :26:41. | |
around. This band of rain will be crossing of Wales and eventually end | :26:42. | :26:45. | |
up in Northern Ireland by the middle of the afternoon. A good it cracks | :26:46. | :26:49. | |
of thunder but | :26:50. | :26:50. |