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Do you need police, fire or ambulance? | :00:07. | :00:07. | |
For more than decade, there was dark secret hidden away | :00:08. | :00:28. | |
In a quiet suburb, three girls were imprisoned, | :00:29. | :00:35. | |
Ariel Castro, a school bus driver, had kidnapped all three girls. | :00:36. | :00:49. | |
The girls were abducted on this street between 2002 and 2004. | :00:50. | :01:02. | |
Gina DeJesus, Amanda Berry and Michelle Knight. | :01:03. | :01:10. | |
This is Lorraine Avenue in Cleveland and this road connects | :01:11. | :01:13. | |
Michelle was taken from here at 1.06pm on Lorraine. | :01:14. | :01:18. | |
Gina was taken one block that way, Amanda was taken three blocks | :01:19. | :01:21. | |
But something else connects the girls. | :01:22. | :01:24. | |
In 2013, a decade on, miraculously, they escaped. | :01:25. | :01:40. | |
And now, Amanda and Gina have decided they are finally ready | :01:41. | :01:44. | |
I had gotten off work early that day and I worked at Burger King. | :01:45. | :02:05. | |
She was at work and I had called a friend for a ride and he didn't | :02:06. | :02:11. | |
And as I was walking there was a van and it was in a driveway that I had | :02:12. | :02:19. | |
And I looked up and saw a man and a girl in the van. | :02:20. | :02:24. | |
The girl looked like someone that I had worked with so I smiled | :02:25. | :02:28. | |
A couple of minutes later, the van pulls up and he says, | :02:29. | :02:34. | |
I was walking home from school with his daughter, Arlene Castro. | :02:35. | :02:45. | |
And she used the pay phone to call her mum to ask | :02:46. | :02:48. | |
if she could come to my house and her mum said no, | :02:49. | :02:52. | |
she went her other way and I went the other way. | :02:53. | :02:57. | |
He asked me if I had seen his daughter and I said yes | :02:58. | :03:01. | |
and he was, like, can you help me find her? | :03:02. | :03:04. | |
And he didn't turn around and went to go into his house. | :03:05. | :03:11. | |
He noticed that and he was talking about how his son had used | :03:12. | :03:18. | |
And that I knew a couple of his kids. | :03:19. | :03:22. | |
And then, of course, when you get to the house, | :03:23. | :03:31. | |
you immediately know that he is not going to let you out? | :03:32. | :03:34. | |
Amanda was just 16 when she was kidnapped. | :03:35. | :03:42. | |
Once locked inside Castro's house, she discovered his first victim, | :03:43. | :03:44. | |
This is Seymour Avenue, less than four miles | :03:45. | :03:58. | |
Ariel Castro moved here in 1992 and he was well-known the area. | :03:59. | :04:03. | |
He imprisoned the three girls here for more than ten years. | :04:04. | :04:06. | |
They were chained up for much of the time, | :04:07. | :04:08. | |
raped over and over again, half starved, sometimes beaten | :04:09. | :04:16. | |
2207 Seymour Avenue has been razed to the ground now. | :04:17. | :04:19. | |
One less physical reminder of the girls' decade in hell. | :04:20. | :04:29. | |
Amanda, you had demonstrated extraordinary foresight | :04:30. | :04:32. | |
Within the first week, I was just sitting in a dark room | :04:33. | :04:41. | |
watching a small black and white TV and he asked me, | :04:42. | :04:43. | |
is there anything that we needed from the store? | :04:44. | :04:46. | |
And I said, yes, a colouring book would be nice and a journal. | :04:47. | :04:53. | |
The code, you were being raped repeatedly, sometimes up to five | :04:54. | :04:58. | |
But what you did, you would just put 3X, 4X, 5X. | :04:59. | :05:04. | |
I knew eventually, if we were ever freed, my mom would read this | :05:05. | :05:11. | |
and I wanted my family to kind of know what I went through and how | :05:12. | :05:14. | |
horrible it was and I also wanted him... | :05:15. | :05:17. | |
I wanted everything to be accounted for. | :05:18. | :05:21. | |
Was it also a way of writing about the rapes but not writing | :05:22. | :05:26. | |
Gina, he also raped you hundreds of times, you were just 14. | :05:27. | :05:32. | |
What happened when you decided to take matters into your own hands | :05:33. | :05:36. | |
How did you have the courage to do that? | :05:37. | :05:43. | |
I don't know, I think he just kept shaking me and was annoying me. | :05:44. | :05:48. | |
And what happened when you smacked him? | :05:49. | :05:55. | |
He smacked me back and then he sent me upstairs. | :05:56. | :06:01. | |
My chain went through her wall to my wall. | :06:02. | :06:13. | |
Her room and my room were connected so it went straight through the wall | :06:14. | :06:18. | |
and I was divided from my ankle to Michelle's ankle. | :06:19. | :06:21. | |
It must have been terrible to have the chains on all the time. | :06:22. | :06:33. | |
But also, when he was abusing you, physically, he had you sometimes | :06:34. | :06:36. | |
There was only a couple of times that happened with me and, | :06:37. | :06:40. | |
I remember crying and telling him no. | :06:41. | :06:47. | |
I think the more we cried and showed him our pain and sorrow, | :06:48. | :07:00. | |
To don't cry, don't show him your pain, don't show him you are mad. | :07:01. | :07:12. | |
One of the cruellest things, I think, early on that he did | :07:13. | :07:25. | |
was he talked to you about the fact that he had been on his motorcycle | :07:26. | :07:28. | |
and he had seen your mum handing out flyers about your disappearance? | :07:29. | :07:31. | |
And he had gone up and taken a flyer from her and asked if there was any | :07:32. | :07:35. | |
information about you, which was so cruel. | :07:36. | :07:37. | |
Because my mom was handing out the flyers and it was the only thing | :07:38. | :07:45. | |
And did you think that you would be able to keep the flyer to the day | :07:46. | :07:52. | |
Gina's parents, Nancy and Felix, never gave up the search | :07:53. | :08:05. | |
Any ideas that came up, if anybody approached us, | :08:06. | :08:13. | |
we took advantage because we knew we had to keep her alive. | :08:14. | :08:16. | |
We knew we had to keep her out there so people would not forget. | :08:17. | :08:21. | |
And to let everybody know that she was still missing. | :08:22. | :08:26. | |
You got a chance to see your families on television. | :08:27. | :08:30. | |
That must have been both heartbreaking but it would also | :08:31. | :08:33. | |
That was the only way they knew how they looked, | :08:34. | :08:40. | |
To know that they were still fighting for you. | :08:41. | :08:48. | |
I felt like a piece of my heart was missing because it was just me | :08:49. | :08:52. | |
and my mom and my sister and my two children and my husband | :08:53. | :08:55. | |
When she came up missing, I lost a piece of me. | :08:56. | :08:59. | |
We were so close, she is my best friend. | :09:00. | :09:01. | |
I kept going because I would never give up hope on my sister. | :09:02. | :09:08. | |
If I didn't know anything about her, there was nothing bad in my heart. | :09:09. | :09:13. | |
So all I could do was keep hope and keep going. | :09:14. | :09:18. | |
And for you, Gina, you have this big, fun family and you were able | :09:19. | :09:23. | |
to see them on television, to see your mum. | :09:24. | :09:26. | |
But something else came on the television as well. | :09:27. | :09:31. | |
You didn't watch it but you watched the Royal wedding? | :09:32. | :09:33. | |
It was like the biggest thing on all the news channels and I loved | :09:34. | :09:40. | |
watching the news, to know what was going on in the world. | :09:41. | :09:43. | |
You have to wake up at 6am and it was going to be on this | :09:44. | :09:47. | |
channel so I actually set my clock and got up at 6am. | :09:48. | :09:57. | |
And the veil being held in place by the Queen's halo tiara. | :09:58. | :10:02. | |
Which has been loaned to her specially for this day. | :10:03. | :10:07. | |
To me, that just something that was, I don't know, it was happiness. | :10:08. | :10:14. | |
They are getting married, to see what her dress looked like. | :10:15. | :10:17. | |
To see all the people there, it was just beautiful. | :10:18. | :10:22. | |
I still one day want to get married and have a family. | :10:23. | :10:25. | |
I think it could have been a little fancier. | :10:26. | :10:34. | |
The Christmas of 2005 was particularly difficult for you. | :10:35. | :10:49. | |
He went out to his family for dinner and that day, | :10:50. | :10:52. | |
I think I am right in saying, you saw that your mother was ill? | :10:53. | :10:55. | |
It came on the news that she was in the hospital | :10:56. | :11:02. | |
When I heard that, I just couldn't stop crying. | :11:03. | :11:11. | |
And then, eventually, of course, she passed away. | :11:12. | :11:14. | |
And, again, it was from television and not him that you found that out? | :11:15. | :11:17. | |
I had gotten up early that day because he had to take me to my room | :11:18. | :11:24. | |
and chain me upstairs and I had turned on the news and it was maybe | :11:25. | :11:29. | |
5.30am in the morning and it was breaking news that my mom | :11:30. | :11:33. | |
What do you think he would have actually done to you if you had | :11:34. | :11:41. | |
What do you think might have happened? | :11:42. | :11:47. | |
I think he would have buried us in the back, | :11:48. | :11:51. | |
It's a beautiful spring day in the neighbourhood where | :11:52. | :12:11. | |
all these three young women were raised in Cleveland, Ohio. | :12:12. | :12:14. | |
And it is extraordinary to think that they hardly ever, | :12:15. | :12:16. | |
in ten years, saw the sunshine because they were kept in rooms, | :12:17. | :12:20. | |
they were locked and barred and the windows covered up. | :12:21. | :12:30. | |
One of the things that I found extraordinary was, | :12:31. | :12:33. | |
going to Seymour Avenue, I expected this huge place, | :12:34. | :12:37. | |
But it was a small place and what I couldn't understand | :12:38. | :12:41. | |
was why none of the neighbours had even noticed him bringing food | :12:42. | :12:44. | |
into the house or even his family coming to the house? | :12:45. | :12:47. | |
What happened to you when family came to the house? | :12:48. | :12:54. | |
Well, he would put all of us into Gina and Michelle's room. | :12:55. | :12:57. | |
And he would lock the door and tell us, be quiet, don't move. | :12:58. | :13:05. | |
And, of course, the temptation would be to scream but | :13:06. | :13:07. | |
And we just knew how he could flip like that. | :13:08. | :13:18. | |
Halfway into the girls' ordeal, something would happen | :13:19. | :13:29. | |
which would change the experience of everyone inside. | :13:30. | :13:33. | |
I had realised that I hadn't got my period and that was that the first | :13:34. | :13:41. | |
But you knew that he didn't want a baby in the house? | :13:42. | :13:58. | |
Because if the baby cries or the neighbours hear a baby | :13:59. | :14:02. | |
or someone comes to the house, what do you do with the baby? | :14:03. | :14:05. | |
But then came the time when you went into labour? | :14:06. | :14:15. | |
I really didn't know I was going into labour, | :14:16. | :14:18. | |
I just had labour pains all day but I had no idea what it was. | :14:19. | :14:21. | |
Eventually I had to use the bathroom and I heard something pop. | :14:22. | :14:24. | |
He was like, I think you water broke. | :14:25. | :14:29. | |
He was like, I think your water broke. | :14:30. | :14:31. | |
So he takes me upstairs into my bedroom and he brings out | :14:32. | :14:34. | |
And that's where I had to lay until I had the baby so I wouldn't | :14:35. | :14:40. | |
So he had gotten Michelle to come in and help me deliver the baby. | :14:41. | :14:45. | |
And he sat in a rocking chair and read a book on how | :14:46. | :14:48. | |
The pain was horrible and I didn't know what to do. | :14:49. | :14:54. | |
When Jocelyn was born, did it reinforce all of your survival | :14:55. | :15:14. | |
instincts, the three of you, that you had a baby in the house? | :15:15. | :15:18. | |
How did it make it a difference to have Jocelyn in the house? | :15:19. | :15:22. | |
It was like, thank God that she was all right. | :15:23. | :15:27. | |
Because it could have been otherwise? | :15:28. | :15:30. | |
The time did come for her to go to school and you made the school? | :15:31. | :15:35. | |
We would wake up in the morning and we would have breakfast | :15:36. | :15:41. | |
I tried to make it as real as possible. | :15:42. | :15:48. | |
So we would lock the door and we would walk to school, | :15:49. | :15:51. | |
across streets, and I would tell her, stop at green lights and look | :15:52. | :15:56. | |
both ways when it's a red light and we would finally get to school | :15:57. | :15:59. | |
and I would set her down I would tell her, OK, | :16:00. | :16:02. | |
When Jocelyn was three, Amanda told Castro she needed fresh air. | :16:03. | :16:16. | |
He took her to this park at the end of the street. | :16:17. | :16:20. | |
Astonishingly, no one noticed him with a small child. | :16:21. | :16:31. | |
He always put on a show outside of the house. | :16:32. | :16:34. | |
That was why nobody ever thought anything. | :16:35. | :16:36. | |
He was just this cool guy on a motorcycle or this guy that | :16:37. | :16:39. | |
They never would think of him as this monster. | :16:40. | :16:43. | |
When he started taking out Jocelyn more and more | :16:44. | :16:55. | |
and he took her to church and took her to a fair and so forth, | :16:56. | :16:59. | |
was it hard for you because you saw that he actually loved her? | :17:00. | :17:02. | |
Did that bring feelings of conflict in you? | :17:03. | :17:05. | |
Because I hated him, of course I hated him for everything | :17:06. | :17:11. | |
And then I would see him with her and he loved her so much. | :17:12. | :17:18. | |
And I just, I started to care for him. | :17:19. | :17:23. | |
But then I would get angry at myself and I would get so mad and say why? | :17:24. | :17:27. | |
Then, of course, finally the day came. | :17:28. | :17:46. | |
So Jocelyn goes to go downstairs because she was allowed to go | :17:47. | :17:52. | |
downstairs when she wanted, if he had the door open, usually. | :17:53. | :17:55. | |
So she goes downstairs and she was, I guess, looking for him. | :17:56. | :17:58. | |
She comes upstairs and she says, Mommy, Daddy's blue car is not here. | :17:59. | :18:02. | |
Go look in the garage, look around the house, | :18:03. | :18:10. | |
So she goes downstairs again, she looks around, she looks for him | :18:11. | :18:16. | |
again and she comes back upstairs and says, no, | :18:17. | :18:19. | |
I think that means that he is not here. | :18:20. | :18:22. | |
Because I had the TV so loud, but I heard her coming up | :18:23. | :18:25. | |
And I just sat there and everything and kept watching TV. | :18:26. | :18:40. | |
I don't see anything so I finally told Jocelyn, | :18:41. | :18:42. | |
OK, Mommy is going to go downstairs for a minute. | :18:43. | :18:45. | |
And when Mommy yells for you, just run down the stairs as fast | :18:46. | :18:49. | |
She started to get a little nervous and she was asking me why. | :18:50. | :18:54. | |
So I get my tennis shoes on and I go downstairs. | :18:55. | :18:58. | |
And I still don't see anything, I don't hear anything. | :18:59. | :19:04. | |
And my heart is pounding out of my chest but then I try to open | :19:05. | :19:08. | |
the door, the screen door, and there is like a lock on there, | :19:09. | :19:11. | |
And I notice as I looked at it that you had to have a key to unlock it | :19:12. | :19:20. | |
So I am pushing it and thinking, it is going to break easy, | :19:21. | :19:24. | |
At that point I am, like, yelling and screaming and I am, | :19:25. | :19:31. | |
like, it was just about that much room that I could fit my arm | :19:32. | :19:36. | |
through so I have my arm waving and going crazy. | :19:37. | :19:38. | |
I see this girl going nuts, trying to get out of the house. | :19:39. | :19:45. | |
So we kicked the bottom and she comes out with a little girl | :19:46. | :19:48. | |
Do you need police, fire or ambulance? | :19:49. | :19:54. | |
I have been missing for ten years and I am free now. | :19:55. | :20:05. | |
I just sat there and I didn't hear her screaming. | :20:06. | :20:09. | |
I just heard when the cops started to break in the house and stuff. | :20:10. | :20:13. | |
I'm not thinking of the cops, really. | :20:14. | :20:15. | |
And she is going to be in big trouble. | :20:16. | :20:21. | |
We have got a female and she has a young child with her. | :20:22. | :20:28. | |
We also have a Michelle Knight in the house. | :20:29. | :20:37. | |
They put me in the back of the car when they went into the house | :20:38. | :20:40. | |
and got Gina and Michelle and they walked us all | :20:41. | :20:42. | |
So that was the first time that we were together | :20:43. | :20:46. | |
And me and her were sitting next to each other and she looks at me | :20:47. | :20:52. | |
You actually do have an incredibly bright future now. | :20:53. | :21:10. | |
What do you want to do more than anything? | :21:11. | :21:12. | |
Some day I want to be able to help other people. | :21:13. | :21:14. | |
That maybe don't have a voice or are scared or are going | :21:15. | :21:17. | |
through something and they don't know what to do. | :21:18. | :21:20. | |
I definitely want to help people one day. | :21:21. | :21:28. | |
When you engaged a lawyer and he asked you if you wanted | :21:29. | :21:32. | |
anything, you just said you wanted two things. | :21:33. | :21:35. | |
A tombstone, a headstone for my Mom because she hadn't had one. | :21:36. | :21:43. | |
And a birth certificate for my daughter. | :21:44. | :21:54. | |
And what about you, Gina, what is your dream? | :21:55. | :21:57. | |
I want to help people like me and change a lot of people. | :21:58. | :22:05. | |
Gina, having not quite believed that you were going to get out, | :22:06. | :22:08. | |
I still couldn't believe that I was out. | :22:09. | :22:15. | |
I don't think it hit me until I got to the hospital. | :22:16. | :22:21. | |
And you were out and in the normal world? | :22:22. | :23:12. | |
Hello. It does look more drive for the next couple of days | :23:13. | :23:13. |