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But, with the pilot still being investigated | :00:00. | :00:00. | |
for manslaughter, and the inquests to come, it may be months before | :00:00. | :00:00. | |
they know if anyone will be held to account. | :00:07. | :00:09. | |
Now on BBC News, it is time for Our World. | :00:10. | :00:12. | |
Yalda Hakim visits Cambodia to meet Angelina Jolie. | :00:13. | :00:14. | |
40 years ago, Cambodia experienced a genocide | :00:15. | :00:20. | |
Now, a new film directed by Hollywood superstar | :00:21. | :00:31. | |
Angelina Jolie has won the backing of the | :00:32. | :00:33. | |
The presence of the Cambodian royal family at the movie's premiere, | :00:34. | :00:42. | |
a stamp of approval for a film about the genocide that has never | :00:43. | :00:47. | |
happened before, a significant acknowledgement that there needs | :00:48. | :00:49. | |
to be more public discussion about the events of that time. | :00:50. | :01:11. | |
I hope this doesn't bring up hatred, I hope it doesn't bring up blame, | :01:12. | :01:15. | |
I hope it just brings up discussion and I hope that the people of this | :01:16. | :01:19. | |
country are proud when they see it because they see what they survived. | :01:20. | :01:39. | |
On the banks of the Mekong River bursts of colour, | :01:40. | :01:42. | |
This is Phnom Penh today, full of life, bustling, | :01:43. | :01:52. | |
Seeing all this it is hard to imagine that just four decades | :01:53. | :02:03. | |
In 1975, the Khmer Rouge, a radical communist movement, | :02:04. | :02:16. | |
took power, forcing millions from the cities | :02:17. | :02:18. | |
This was their year zero, an attempt to create | :02:19. | :02:32. | |
It was easy to find yourself an enemy of Angkor, | :02:33. | :02:37. | |
Practising religion, showing emotions or even wearing | :02:38. | :02:51. | |
In four years over two million people were killed, | :02:52. | :02:55. | |
In 1979, weakened by infighting, the Khmer Rouge were driven | :02:56. | :03:04. | |
from power by invading troops from neighbouring Vietnam. | :03:05. | :03:12. | |
40 years later, a new film about those times, | :03:13. | :03:20. | |
First They Killed My Father is breaking new ground. | :03:21. | :03:30. | |
There have been films made about the genocide before, | :03:31. | :03:33. | |
It is funded by one of the world's biggest content distributors, | :03:34. | :03:37. | |
But it's filmed entirely in Cambodia with Cambodian actors | :03:38. | :03:47. | |
Because it's directed by Hollywood superstar Angelina Jolie. | :03:48. | :03:58. | |
She has had a deep connection with this country for almost 20 | :03:59. | :04:02. | |
years since she first made a film here. | :04:03. | :04:05. | |
It is where she adopted her first child, a Cambodian boy. | :04:06. | :04:08. | |
She has even been given Cambodian citizenship. | :04:09. | :04:16. | |
I thought what story do I feel is really important to tell? | :04:17. | :04:24. | |
I felt that this war that happened 40 years ago and what happened | :04:25. | :04:27. | |
to these people was not properly understood and not just | :04:28. | :04:30. | |
for the world, but for the people of the country. | :04:31. | :04:33. | |
I felt that I wanted them to be able to reflect on it in a way | :04:34. | :04:37. | |
This film is graphic, detailed and personal. | :04:38. | :04:52. | |
It is based on the true story of Loung Ung, who was five years | :04:53. | :04:56. | |
old when the brutal rule of the Khmer Rouge began. | :04:57. | :04:58. | |
She managed to survive but her mother, father and two | :04:59. | :05:01. | |
And in a country where almost every family suffered under the regime, | :05:02. | :05:13. | |
the film-makers hope this will resonate and encourage people | :05:14. | :05:15. | |
to speak more freely about their deep, personal pain. | :05:16. | :05:25. | |
Right in the centre of the capital, Tuol Sleng, also known as S21, | :05:26. | :05:28. | |
was a high school that became a prison. | :05:29. | :05:33. | |
Inmates were stripped, suffocated, interrogated, | :05:34. | :05:35. | |
Foreign tourists from all over the world come here to learn. | :05:36. | :05:50. | |
But you don't see many Cambodians here. | :05:51. | :05:56. | |
Some of the local people I've spoken to say they don't want to be | :05:57. | :05:59. | |
There are thousands of pictures taken of each prisoner | :06:00. | :06:04. | |
Each of them would have had families, a life and this | :06:05. | :06:13. | |
is the only way we can now remember them. | :06:14. | :06:21. | |
Over 12,000 people are estimated to have come through these doors. | :06:22. | :06:28. | |
I think of all the photographs, it is the ones where | :06:29. | :06:35. | |
they are smiling which make me feel most sick because we now know | :06:36. | :06:39. | |
They would have had some idea of what would happen to them. | :06:40. | :06:49. | |
It just doesn't fit what's actually going on in this place, | :06:50. | :06:52. | |
At 86 he is one of the last still alive. | :06:53. | :07:12. | |
He comes back here every day to share his story with one person | :07:13. | :07:15. | |
Like so many others, he was accused of being a spy | :07:16. | :07:23. | |
As a mechanic he was useful to the Khmer Rouge and they kept him | :07:24. | :07:28. | |
He takes me to see his cell where he was known as number 22. | :07:29. | :07:38. | |
Now he has made it his duty to repeat his story over and over | :07:39. | :08:56. | |
as a tribute to the thousands who didn't. | :08:57. | :09:30. | |
He wants to make sure every single person who walks through the doors | :09:31. | :09:36. | |
of the museum understand what happened here. | :09:37. | :09:45. | |
Rithy Panh was just 11 years old when the Khmer Rouge | :09:46. | :09:48. | |
He is now arguably the country's most influential artist and produced | :09:49. | :09:56. | |
The Oscar nominated film-maker says this is a country that has trouble | :09:57. | :10:07. | |
And there are so many ghosts in this country. | :10:08. | :11:01. | |
On the outskirts of the capital the anonymous dead. | :11:02. | :11:06. | |
They call them the killing fields and these mass graves exist | :11:07. | :11:10. | |
One favourite mantra of the regime was "to keep you is no benefit, | :11:11. | :11:19. | |
Some victims were shot dead, others buried alive, | :11:20. | :11:28. | |
This is yet another mass grave where more than a hundred victims | :11:29. | :11:41. | |
were killed, mostly women and children. | :11:42. | :11:45. | |
And this over here it is the most unimaginable, but they had a killing | :11:46. | :11:49. | |
tree and now there are just these colourful beads, | :11:50. | :11:54. | |
So what has been done to bring those responsible to justice? | :11:55. | :12:06. | |
A UN-backed court was set up in Cambodia. | :12:07. | :12:11. | |
Hundreds of millions have been spent so far, | :12:12. | :12:14. | |
though only four officials have gone to trial, a deliberate decision | :12:15. | :12:19. | |
to only try those at the very top of the Khmer Rouge. | :12:20. | :12:25. | |
Further funding for the tribunals is now in jeopardy and it is unlikely | :12:26. | :12:28. | |
But some of those who suffered say a tribunal is not the only | :12:29. | :12:37. | |
They say what is needed is to keep speaking up. | :12:38. | :13:16. | |
This is the biggest film premiere this country has ever seen | :13:17. | :13:21. | |
and the presence of a superstar like Angelina Jolie has brought | :13:22. | :13:24. | |
The film's screening at one of Cambodia's world-famous ancient | :13:25. | :13:31. | |
temples is a deliberate display of the approval it has | :13:32. | :13:34. | |
at the highest level of Cambodian society. | :13:35. | :13:41. | |
The presence of the King and Queen of Cambodia is highly symbolic. | :13:42. | :13:47. | |
This kind of domestic support and backing of a film | :13:48. | :13:50. | |
about the genocide has never happened before here in Cambodia. | :13:51. | :13:55. | |
For Angelina Jolie this is a passion project. | :13:56. | :14:00. | |
This film is in a way my way of saying thank you to Cambodia. | :14:01. | :14:07. | |
Because, you see, Cambodia changed my life. | :14:08. | :14:12. | |
The film is being screened in Cambodia seven months before | :14:13. | :14:15. | |
Schoolchildren and victims sit side-by-side, a generation who know | :14:16. | :14:23. | |
the story all too well, and a new generation willing | :14:24. | :14:27. | |
So I hope this doesn't bring up hatred, I hope it doesn't bring up | :14:28. | :14:36. | |
blame, I hope it just brings up discussion and I hope | :14:37. | :14:40. | |
that the people of this country are proud when they see it | :14:41. | :14:46. | |
because they see what they have survived and I think it sheds light | :14:47. | :14:51. | |
on what it is to be Cambodian, a lot of the beauty of love | :14:52. | :14:57. | |
You think this nation is ready for that? | :14:58. | :15:05. | |
I hope so. Yes, I do. | :15:06. | :15:09. | |
The hope is this film will make it easier for the country to talk | :15:10. | :15:12. | |
Some have already found the courage to do so. | :15:13. | :15:22. | |
His weathered face shows the hard life he has lived. | :15:23. | :15:31. | |
The 65-year-old now sells bananas for a living. | :15:32. | :15:37. | |
When it comes time for talking about his past, though, | :15:38. | :15:40. | |
He wants to meet us in a remote pagoda. | :15:41. | :15:47. | |
Before he was a farmer he was a torturer at the infamous | :15:48. | :15:50. | |
Tuol Sleng prison that I visited in Phnom Penh. | :15:51. | :16:12. | |
So there was screaming, begging, asking you to stop? | :16:13. | :17:04. | |
During that time he did not consider he was guilty. | :17:05. | :17:18. | |
It has been 40 years since the events he describes | :17:19. | :17:52. | |
and he calls himself a victim as well. | :17:53. | :17:56. | |
But does he think he should have been punished? | :17:57. | :18:23. | |
Pratt Korn tells me the past haunts him, he feels | :18:24. | :18:26. | |
He says he often talks to his children about his past, | :18:27. | :18:31. | |
but it is difficult for them to believe that their 64-year-old | :18:32. | :18:35. | |
father, now grandfather, could have committed | :18:36. | :18:37. | |
After the film premiere, Angelina Jolie has come to hear | :18:38. | :18:48. | |
She listens as one by one they speak. | :18:49. | :18:57. | |
The old share their stories, a lifetime of emotion is released. | :18:58. | :19:19. | |
I realise how difficult it is for them to open up. | :19:20. | :19:22. | |
The pain is still so present, like it happened yesterday. | :19:23. | :19:27. | |
How do you think this film will help the younger generation | :19:28. | :19:30. | |
when you hear her speaking you see her tears and pain? | :19:31. | :19:50. | |
What do you feel your responsibility is? | :19:51. | :19:53. | |
Well, to that question my responsibility would be to pass it | :19:54. | :19:59. | |
on to a way longer generation and to show them what the devastation was, | :20:00. | :20:03. | |
the struggle they have been through, the pain, in order for that to avoid | :20:04. | :20:08. | |
Do you think it is hard for them to open up? | :20:09. | :20:15. | |
As a society Cambodians don't like to talk about their feelings | :20:16. | :20:18. | |
Do you think that it is difficult for them to talk to the younger | :20:19. | :20:24. | |
people about what has happened to them? | :20:25. | :20:26. | |
In my opinion I don't think they feel they don't want to talk. | :20:27. | :20:29. | |
They really want to talk, they really want to reveal | :20:30. | :20:33. | |
what they have been through, but the problem is how the listener | :20:34. | :20:37. | |
For many Cambodians this is a first, to finally be speaking to strangers | :20:38. | :20:47. | |
about their private, painful memories. | :20:48. | :20:58. | |
Each move a symbol of the past, present and future. | :20:59. | :21:10. | |
It goes back thousands of years to Angkorian era, | :21:11. | :21:14. | |
a mixture of Hindu and Buddhist mythology. | :21:15. | :21:24. | |
In the past it was only ever taught at the Royal Courts. | :21:25. | :21:29. | |
But the dance almost vanished under the Khmer Rouge and only | :21:30. | :21:32. | |
a few of those who knew the art survived. | :21:33. | :21:38. | |
Now it is slowly making a comeback with a new generation keen | :21:39. | :21:41. | |
Another thing almost lost is being restored, | :21:42. | :21:51. | |
all the more precious for having been saved. | :21:52. | :22:30. | |
The many Cambodians I have met and spoken to say they are slowly | :22:31. | :22:33. | |
restoring pride in their culture and finding strength | :22:34. | :22:37. | |
This nation's people are clearly still haunted by the events of 40 | :22:38. | :22:44. | |
years ago and are still looking for a way to heal. | :22:45. | :22:51. | |
I think they will always search for answers, and need to remember. | :22:52. | :22:54. | |
But they don't want the brutality of the past and the need to remember | :22:55. | :22:58. | |
My advice for the weekend is to be prepared for everything. There will | :22:59. | :23:41. | |
be some rain and when it arrives it will | :23:42. | :23:42. |