God's Cadets: Joining the Salvation Army

SEAGULLS' CALLS

Wow, look! I know.

Jesus comes to you and says, "Follow me,"

and we have to decide whether we're going to be disciples

and whether we're going to go and catch other fish.

And catch other people. And bring other people to Christ.

BRASS BAND PLAYING: "Somewhere Over The Rainbow"

This is my family's most favourite place on Earth.

It's where Elijah was born, it's where Isaac was a baby.

I've chosen to give...give everything up

because I strongly believe that's what God wants me to do.

So I'm just trusting God

and leaving all this to go to the Salvation Army.

BAND PLAYS MARCHING TUNE

For 150 years, the Salvation Army has trained

officers to fight a spiritual war against poverty and sin.

It's an army without guns. So it's a war of love.

But in this secular age, who wants to become a Salvation Army officer?

We've a binman, a butcher, we've an ex-ballroom dancer.

Last time I wore this, I was 28. That was 1998.

I wore it in Japan. A little bit of Strictly in me!

We have one guy, who, at some point, has been a Buddhist.

What challenges will God's new recruits face?

People who apply for officer training are often giving up

good careers. They're selling homes. They're uprooting their family.

And what happens when their faith is tested and doubts set in?

A few people don't make it to the end of training

because they discover, actually,

this is not what God was calling them to in the first place.

If it doesn't work out with the Salvation Army, I keep saying

I'll pursue my dream of being a morris dancer

and we'll have a teashop in Sidmouth.

I'm still an atheist every Monday morning,

before I've had my first cup of coffee.

Behind the high walls of its south London officer training college,

the Salvation Army selects and prepares the next generation

of leaders to fight for good against evil.

ALL RECITE: We believe that there is only one God

who is infinitely perfect

and who is the only proper object of religious worship.

I'm going to be splitting you two up in a minute!

LAUGHTER

Hi, Teresa. Hiya. Are you OK?

I'm fine, thank you.

Every year, serving Salvation Army soldiers -

already uniformed members of the church -

apply for a two-year intensive officer training programme.

Nothing, at this moment

in the history of the Salvation Army, is more important

than getting our leadership right,

and you're part of that.

The strength of our movement is the officers that sign up to say,

"There's nothing else. I'm not going to be distracted.

"This is what I'm going to be,

"and what I'm going to do for the rest of my days."

It's not something that you sign quickly.

In many ways, it's the climax of 22 months, 21 months of training.

I've got three stars behind my ear, "I am the one and only" on my wrist.

To get into the college, all would-be cadets must have

the backing of their local church,

and pass a thorough screening to be sure they are officer material.

A fairy-angel-type figure on my ankle.

Paw prints going over my shoulder.

And then in-between the paw prints,

I have "Being part of something special makes you special".

I believe that that is true for me.

Because the day that I realised I was part of God's family

was the most special thing that ever happened to me.

She didn't talk about her family

in This Is Me, did she? No, she didn't.

There is some comments in the paperwork about finding it

difficult going home.

And, um, fitting back into the family.

How do they feel about... Do they think their daughter is

signing up for a cult?

Why officership and why now?

As I was walking in, I said to God, "Why am I here?" and he said,

"Because I want you to be.

"This is where I want you to be. The time is now."

Hi. My name is Teresa.

Now you may be asking and wondering why I'm wearing a mask.

Well, actually it's a masquerading mask.

I've actually spent quite a long time, and quite a lot of my life,

wearing different sorts of masks and trying to be things that I'm

not, and trying to be things that other people wanted me to be.

We're all chipped, we're all earthen vessels.

That's how the Bible describes us. We've all got those cracks.

We've all got those weaknesses that potentially make us a risk.

I have pictures here of me throughout the years.

I was abused as a child, which meant I grew up believing

I wasn't worth very much and I hid behind masks.

'The point of the screening and selection process is to ensure

'people are able to serve out of that weakness

'and it becomes a strength.'

Because if you're not able to do that,

then you become a danger and we don't want that.

It is sort of what the butler saw.

And if you turn it slowly,

you'll be able to eventually see the founder's funeral.

The cadets who are chosen, give up their homes

and bring their families to live at the college.

Here they will adhere to the strict military code

created by the Salvation Army's Victorian founders.

"While women weep, as they do now, I'll fight.

"While little children go hungry, as they do now, I'll fight.

"While men go to prison in and out, in and out, as they do now,

"I'll fight.

"While there is a drunkard left,

"while there is a poor lost girl upon the streets, while there

"remains one dark soul without the light of God, I'll fight."

William Booth.

We believe in a spiritual warfare.

We believe we are battling against sin,

we're battling against evil.

It says on our crest "blood and fire" and we're still a blood

and fire people.

All I wanted to be as a kid was a knight.

I wanted to fight the evil in the world.

I wanted to protect people who couldn't protect themselves,

and being a Salvation Army officer is a lot like that.

The officer training college used to attract 300 cadets every year.

I haven't done the other one. Oh, sorry.

This September, just 29 new recruits began their training,

joining 30 second-years who will be commissioned as officers

and sent to lead Salvation Army churches next June.

We are the Disciples of the Cross

and the second-years

are the Proclaimers of the Resurrection.

This is my jacket with my little epaulettes here.

It has S and S on it which means "saved to serve".

"Saved" means I've been saved by the blood of Christ -

I've given my life over to Jesus.

And the other S is that now I'm serving rather than

living my life in kind of selfish gratification.

The uniform is the universally recognised

signifier of the Salvation Army. It was introduced by the founder,

William Booth, to help Salvationists stand out in the darkest

and most hopeless corners of Victorian England.

I think it looks horrible.

I do think the uniforms could have

a little bit more

chicness about them so you don't just look like,

when you're the shape that I am, like a block in blue.

There's no shape in my uniform. It just looks awful. It's depressing

There's no shape in my uniform. It just looks awful. It's depressing

cos you think you're one size

and then they make you put a bigger size on.

To be honest, I feel a bit like my mum, who was an officer.

Is that every daughter's nightmare?

Yeah, a little bit.

I had one of these as a child. Still got it, actually, somewhere at home.

A junior soldier badge. What does it mean to you?

A junior soldier badge. What does it mean to you?

When you're a junior soldier, you make a promise to follow God

and to do that by trying to be an obedient child,

by reading your Bible, by praying.

And, um, the end bit is to be clean in thought, word and deed

to the best of your ability, but...

It's very odd. It's quirky. It's...

full of jargon and language that is perhaps alien

when you first get into it.

Two stars, two pips is captain.

Major's epaulettes. Get the crest.

15 years.

It's like wearing a straitjacket, this. My word.

Lieutenant colonel.

What is the full armour of the Lord, then?

The full armour of God?

Well, the Bible tells us

to put on the shield of faith, to go out with a sword of truth.

Word of truth, from our tip of our head,

helmet of salvation, the breast plate of righteousness, almost

like a Roman soldier who's fully suited and booted, ready for battle.

We don't preach hell and damnation and eternal burning.

What about the eternal punishment of the wicked?

Well, that is Victorian language

and I don't think it is a good metaphor.

It IS like Hogwarts in some ways.

It's kind of like... It's very... You're all training to do the same

thing in a residential sense of the word like Hogwarts.

You all wear a uniform like Hogwarts.

That would be an interesting essay to do. Yeah. Comparisons.

Compare Hogwarts to William Booth College. Discuss.

We don't learn spells or anything. We don't have quidditch.

It's not as fun as Hogwarts.

Prayers are like spells, aren't they?

Lay that bait!

Um, no. No, no.

Because a spell...

You say a certain spell and it ends up...results in something.

It's like a mythical thing anyway. Whereas prayer, it's a mystery.

And prayer is also to do with your relationship and your heart.

And sometimes prayers go on and on, in terms of praying

And sometimes prayers go on and on, in terms of praying

the same prayer for weeks, for months, for years.

You don't get an instant response.

It's about perseverance.

STUDENTS: In the name of God the father,

God the son and God the holy spirit,

and in the presence of the officers, soldiers

and friends of the Salvation Army here assembled,

and friends of the Salvation Army here assembled,

we declare that we believe that continuance in a state

of Salvation depends upon continued obedient faith in Christ.

We have weapons - you know, I can get religious on you and say,

actually we fight a war - we have weapons of faith.

We believe in the power of prayer.

We believe in the power of prayer.

We believe in the gospel that we preach.

I think there's an amazing adventure.

I don't want to be in a field somewhere flicking my Bible pages

and not actually participating in the battle.

and not actually participating in the battle.

I want to be hands-on. I want to be hand-to-hand.

There's definitely a kind of dark... Something dark, you know?

A dark force.

Yoda is a perfect example of someone who is small,

someone who when we look at him, we might think he's inferior

and he's not that good at much.

But actually he's incredibly powerful

But actually he's incredibly powerful

because he lives his life in with the Force.

Um, if we want to be, um, relevant, if we want to be powerful,

if we want to, you know, do some great things in our lives,

we need to have God with us and the spirit as OUR force. Yeah.

Over the two years, the cadets will study theology

but will also learn social-work skills around addiction,

prostitution, trafficking and homelessness.

They live in the college grounds with their families.

Are we going to say grace, then?

Thank you, Lord, for giving us food, thank you, Lord, for giving us food.

Our daily bread, for keeping us fed. Thank you, Lord,

for giving us food. Amen

Right that's enough graces. I'm worn out!

Having met Luke, who grew up in the Salvation Army,

Katy also felt called by God to become an officer.

But Katy is new to Army life.

I think if people are looking at Salvationists

if they're from the outside I think what they see is a...

Especially at Christmas, I think the first thing you conjure up

in your mind is brass bands at Christmas.

A lot of people like the structure of the Army, I think.

There's a lot of routine, there's a lot of the sort of military

aspect that a lot of people really like and I think they cling on to.

Is she coming? Hide! It is ET? Hide!

What night is band night practice generally? Tuesday. Tuesday night.

Most Salvation Armies, Tuesday night,

wherever you go will be a band practice.

When I first started going out with Luke, one of the first

things I thought was,

"If I'm going to marry this man and he's going

"to be an officer, alcohol could be quite an issue," because I did

drink, not excessively, but I'd enjoy a drink like anybody else.

drink, not excessively, but I'd enjoy a drink like anybody else.

Um, but I've never, ever missed having a drink.

OK, I lie, there's been a couple of times!

At Christmas when everyone else is having a nice Baileys or, um...

I don't know, like a really hot afternoon

and people are having a Pimms or something,

you know, and I think, "Ooh!"

Or a cider, I think, "Oh, yeah, I'd quite like..." But I have

committed my life to something that is far more than an alcoholic drink.

All my family drink, so my grandparents come round

and it's, "Do you want a sherry?" You know, they're that age.

And so Luke was doing drinks one day, and my nan asked for a sherry,

and Luke was like... So I said, "You know, just a little glass. You know,

"a little bit." Well, he's like a wine-glass full.

Just no idea, no concept, did you, of alcohol, of measurements

of alcohol, of strength of alcohol? And it was just a really funny

story because just the complete difference in our culture, perhaps.

Even though I might meet an alcoholic

and I've never had a drink myself, I still believe that

I can kind of relate to that person, come alongside them and love

them and care for them, without having experienced it myself.

What would you like your children to be when they grow up?

If I had to have one prayer for them, for Esther and Ruben,

above anything else, above career, above money, above relationships

whatever, that they would know God and have a relationship with him.

So, can I ask? Yeah. What is God?

To try and describe who God is, is really difficult.

I'm doing an essay at the moment on God and evil

so, you know, how can we reconcile this creator God,

who's loving, is compassionate, who gives us his grace,

yeah? Absolutely, I affirm that is true, and on the other

side, all this evil that we see in the news every day.

And not just people

committing evil acts but groups committing evil acts,

kind of a disease, and cancer and children going missing,

who still haven't been found, you know.

What do you do with all that? How do you bring these together and

who's responsible? You know, is God responsible ultimately for evil?

Am I doing Twinkle Twinkle? Ready? Ready?

THEY PLAY: "Twinkle Twinkle Little Star"

I think sometimes faith is about not having answers

about being able to say, "You know what, part of this is a mystery and

"I don't quite understand

"why there's so much evil and suffering and God

"doesn't step in, cos I believe he's got the power to do so

"but he doesn't. What's that about?"

CHILD SINGS IN KIDDY TALK

Oh, well done, Ruben. Were you singing the alphabet?

Are you going to play your cornet now?

You don't play your cornet that much, do you?

Ready, Rubes?

BRASS BAND PLAYS

The Salvation Army does have a level of expectation of lifestyle issues.

Those wishing to become officers, they don't drink alcohol,

they don't smoke, they don't gamble, they don't take drugs.

We're very clear on standards of sexual behaviour and conduct.

The standardised logo,

if you like, for the Salvation Army these days is the red shield.

Gillian was telling me recently she's come across

some research that said that actually you

don't need the words inside it

and people still recognise it as the Salvation Army.

It's that recognisable as an emblem of who we are.

Are we a brand? You know, we're showing a shield -

we're a brand, surely. A brand of Christianity.

we're a brand, surely. A brand of Christianity.

I'm not going to go all the way down that road this morning.

The use of the term "brand"

speaks to me of the commercial world and all that.

There's a little bit of uncomfortableness about that.

But it is a brand in a sense, isn't it?

Prior to coming here, when I had some pennies,

I had this personal trainer, and I was doing kickboxing,

lifting weights, and the weight dropped off.

I had nice houses in nice parts of the country, a nice car,

I had money in my pocket.

Yeah, I had all the things that we believe make us happy.

After a successful career as a salesman in the baking industry,

Darron's leap of faith to become a Salvation Army officer has

meant moving 200 miles to London

and a radical change in lifestyle for his young family.

This one, he only has strength.

Yeah, he has strength. But he's really strong.

Man bat. He can fly.

My dad - because he reads the Bible a lot,

God trusts him and stuff,

so maybe he has powers of God and stuff and that.

His magic power is reading the Bible.

You didn't think he was mad?

No, I didn't think he was mad.

No,

I didn't think he was mad at all. No, I didn't.

I think probably maybe when we were younger,

I might have thought he was a bit mad but not now we're at that age.

A certain age!

She's given up all her close friends,

all the mums that she was friendly with.

She had a great job with the school and, um, it was hard for her.

She got quite emotional when she came here.

You know, we all got... We were all grieving for our old life.

Yeah, here's the Star Wars box

The kids desperate... I mean, the hardest thing

was when Elijah, my youngest boy,

his friend phoned and he said to his friend,

"All right, mate? How's the gang?"

And he said, "I'll see you soon."

And I knew he wouldn't ever see them soon cos we're not going back.

All cadets have to pay their own way through college, often with

help from their local church.

Once commissioned, they will be dispatched to a new church

and earn their first pay slip.

So per month, the basic officer's salary...

Is this hers? ..is ?681.91.

That's it, a month.

Um, yeah.

And the furnishing... You get... A furnishing allowance of ?35.61.

You get an extra allowance if you're living alone.

Um, and an extra allowance for...you know,

due to your number of years' service.

I'm a huge collector of art.

I have been, me and my wife, since we were first married, really.

It's an obsession I think. I started off as a baker.

A trained pastry chef in search of perfection.

We were always looking for books and recipes that were different.

All the time in my job I was having to think, "I want to do a cookie.

"What hasn't been done before

"and what flavour could I use? And what spice could

"I put with that that compliments that or pushes the flavour forward."

I went to have dinner at Heston Blumenthal's restaurant,

which was a dream come true.

I went with, um, a customer.

We quickly got through about ?4,000 worth of pennies for this meal.

I think we had 15 courses.

And, um, it was like a work of art.

He's engaging with all your senses, with your sight,

with your ears, with your smell, with your taste.

Just... God's created all of this for a reason. It's beautiful.

Is it a love affair that has got to come to an end?

It's come to an end. It's over.

I'm having to wear this watch because I was

shamed into having to demote, uh, a watch that I got for my birthday,

that's a very, very good watch, for my 40th birthday, because a fellow

Salvationist didn't really quite think it was, um, the Army, so...

There's the watch. Yeah.

Where's that going to go now?

It'll have to go hide in a cupboard or something, I think.

So I may have to change this actually.

It's probably a bit too lively. It cost me ?1 at the car boot.

Offensive, inoffensive, offensive, inoffensive.

People almost want to live your life for you.

I got pulled up for drinking a ginger beer last summer,

because somebody felt that there was alcohol in it, and said I shouldn't.

As a Salvation Army Trainee Cadet, I shouldn't be drinking ginger beer.

And I asked the person to find the alcohol in the bottle,

and they couldn't, but they still...

They were insistent that I shouldn't be drinking ginger beer.

So I find that all a bit weird.

I think we can be harsh

and judgmental sometimes.

Um, I don't think that's one of our good things.

Scripture tells us that we should show mercy.

And sometimes we've not been very good at showing mercy to ourselves.

Um...

I've heard of stories where people have contravened

some of the unwritten rules of the Salvation Army in the past

and there have been

certain principles and procedures that have needed to be followed.

The consequence of them usually is people leave

because they're seen to be harsh

and unnecessary and judgmental,

where actually, there but for the grace of God go I.

I've had a lot of questioning

because I get Ocado shopping delivered.

SHE GIGGLES

And that's... Because that's Waitrose, people consider

that to be a luxury, whereas I should shop in Tesco's or ASDA.

A comment was made in my review and evaluation about me

being middle class.

Which I can't help, because I was brought up

and I went to a private school, you know, I can't...

I can shake off a lot of me, but, you know, there's some things.

Both grandads were bank managers,

that's sort of where I've come from, you know,

and I'm not sure they would have said it about somebody that

had come from a council estate, that they were, you know, lower class.

So that was quite an interesting comment that was made,

that I wasn't too happy about.

The problem with the Salvation Army is it's so insular

that you know about lots of different people's

that you know about lots of different people's

perhaps financial situations and things. Oh, thank you, Esther.

Oh, that's beautiful.

Yeah, they're non-regulation laces.

I'm the kind of person that's reluctant to wear plain navy socks.

I like to have a bit of colour in life.

I have an inner rebel inside me.

This is the way that I express that, by getting different

coloured laces.

It's nice to be able to identify yourself

as a normal person every now and again.

Nick and Shelley met and married at college.

They both come from Salvation Army families.

JAZZ STYLE DANCE MUSIC PLAYS

It's another world. It's a different language, a different culture.

So there is perhaps an element of simplicity in marrying into or

marrying a Salvationist if you're a Salvationist yourself

because you don't have to explain that language to another person,

and they don't have to learn that themselves.

But that wasn't the reason why Shelley and I chose to get married.

What if God designed marriage to make us holy

more than to make us happy?

I believe that God, um, gives us our life partners to help us

to grow spiritually and even...

Up until 13 years ago, if officers wanted to marry outside

the Salvation Army, they would have to leave or remain single.

It's a tradition that people meet in college.

In college and get married. Absolutely.

Yeah, but if, you know... I kind of think about marriage and OK,

perhaps there's been some question marks over some of the couples.

Not in our session necessarily but in other sessions.

And should they be together? Is this right?

But a lot of what being married is about is having those same

hopes and dreams. I still think that some people get married that maybe

shouldn't in college but that's their decision.

You're basically saying some people that are currently

married shouldn't be married in your opinion? Yeah.

If we're not in decline at the moment, we're certainly not

having growth that matches those people that are dying or leaving.

We should be worried about it, because in 50 or 60 years' time,

the Salvation Army will be down to a handful of people.

Let's face it, a lot of our growth

within the Salvation Army is from within

the Salvation Army, that's true.

But it's not just going to come about if Nick

and Shelley have lots of little Salvationists.

This is Beryl Cook and she painted um, the Salvation Army.

Beryl Cook was, um, really into fashion, and hats, and shoes,

so I think that was the real thing that captivated her.

These little... The bonnets, the old-fashioned bonnets

and the shoes and the...the stockings and the tights.

This little picture is just a print.

I think somebody's paid ?6 for it.

I feel a little bit of an outsider cos

I don't come from the typical Salvation Army family.

I've not been exposed to all the variety of the Salvation Army.

We are looking at the challenge of the tongue

and hopefully be encouraged to use our tongues in a way that

glorifies God and not brings that embarrassment and shame to us.

When you consider we all have a particular uniform,

we all don't do certain things,

we abstain from certain things,

then you are dangerously becoming within the definition of a sect.

"But no-one contained the tongue.

"A restless evil full of deadly poison.

"With it, we bless the Lord and father

"and with it, we curse those

"who are made in the likeness of God."

"He who guards his mouth

"and his tongue guards his soul from troubles."

Whoever decided to write that words of encouragement didn't sign it.

It's almost like I'm all right for God, I'm saved by God's grace

but actually some cadet or some other in this place thinks

that, um, I'm not a good Christian.

Or I'm not the perfect Salvationist. That's quite sad.

Just pose the question.

Would any of us deny that at times we've had problems with our tongues?

Each of us will know, won't we,

how we're doing in our practice of these things?

I just think if you're telling the truth,

and your life's truth, what have I got to be worried about?

Let's pray.

God of grace and mercy,

help us in these moments to gain a greater understanding of what

it means to make the salvation of folk

our primary aim.

Help us to work out what it means to clothe the naked,

feed the hungry, befriend the friendless.

What it means to be faithful officers of the Salvation Army.

Darron is new to the army, but the majority of officer cadets

have some Salvation Army connections in their background.

Annmarie joined as a child, soon after being put up for adoption.

What does it mean to you, that teddy?

It means the love of my mum and dad.

It is one of the first presents

I had from them, um,

when I moved to live with them.

I was aged five when I had that teddy for Christmas.

It's just special. It's just a lovely teddy. Yeah.

Has it also been there at your toughest times?

Yeah, he's been there

when I've needed to just cuddle into my teddy.

He's been there,

um, as a comfort,

It's a physical comfort thing.

A parent should be someone who loves their child unconditionally.

I became a junior soldier at seven.

It was easy to just follow.

So that's what I did.

I have an understanding of what it is to not be accepted

and not valued, and to be belittled beyond belittled,

and to think you are completely the most rubbish

person in the whole world -

there is nobody worse than you.

Some of the reason why I can do what I'm going into is because, yes,

I didn't experience love but actually I've learnt the value of love.

And really, yeah, experienced the healing of it and the value of it.

And I think regardless of who you are,

you should be accepted and valued.

And that is what God teaches us.

Are you now a Salvation Army family?

We are a Salvation Army family.

And I've married into a big Salvation Army family.

So my in-laws were and are officers.

Um, my mother-in-law's parents were officers.

Can you tell who are the new or adopted ones? Yes.

Definitely you can tell who are the newer ones to the Salvation Army.

And, actually, it's not always because they're like me

that want to be slightly rebellious and not wear the uniform

and question a lot of things.

Sometimes they're actually the people that are even more legalistic

than the people who have been in it for years.

But there is definitely a way. You can definitely kind of...

The majority of time you can tell that people are new,

newer to the Salvation Army.

I've grown-up in the Salvation Army and Katy, who didn't,

reminds me of those things which I just think are normal.

So I've worn this uniform every Sunday since, you know...

Well, a uniform every Sunday since I was seven.

So it's normal to me really, but...

Have you really?

Yes. Since you were seven?

Yes, cos I had a junior soldier's uniform. Oh, my word.

And then senior soldier's uniform and now an officer's uniform. Wow.

At the same time, I'm not so precious about the uniform

that I just, I go through the routine of doing it

without theologically reflecting on why I'm wearing it.

Could you be related to somebody in the Salvation Army

and not realise it?

Yes. SHE LAUGHS

I'm fresh blood! They had to... I had to marry.

I had to be married in to,

so people didn't end up with like three eyes and...

No, there is a bit of joke that we do need some fresh blood in the Army,

and people, you know, there's people here that would be able to say

they're related, they could relate themselves back to the General -

William Booth the founder.

I just haven't ever come across anything like it.

If we're relying on genetics then I think we've gone wrong somewhere.

Salvation Army founders William and Catherine Booth

created a family dynasty.

Most of their 8 children and 37 grandchildren

entered the Salvation Army

I feel like Charlie And The Chocolate Factory.

LIFT: 'Going up.'

Major Janet Martin is one of many college tutors

who can trace her army history back for many generations

The Booth nose.

Apparently if you touch an old dead saint's bones or something

then it might heal you.

So people used to do it with William Booth's nose.

Janet worked with orphans

before coming to the college as a trainee 20 years ago.

It was here she first met her future husband Malcolm.

So, there were only two single men, one was Malcolm Martin

and my name was Janet Martin, so there you go.

Then it turned out our grandparents were in training together.

Oh, for a horrible little while,

we thought maybe we had the same grandparents.

Thankfully his grandfather was Charles Martin

and mine was John Enrique, so we were all right.

Yeah, that was a terrible moment

when we thought we were actually related.

SHE LAUGHS But we weren't.

The Salvation Army is a great, big, huge somewhat dysfunctional,

but we all love each other deep down, family.

That's what it is.

And we want others to join.

To widen the gene pool?

We certainly need that, don't we?

Otherwise when we wave at you,

it will be to prove that we've got five fingers!

Which will happen one day, I think.

I think a majority of people in the Salvation Army

just grew up in the Salvation Army

and they maybe have that period between 16 and 18

when they went off but...

But there are a few who sort of came in.

For healing, I think.

And to, yeah, to find something else.

Whatever you want to call that. Salvation.

Since their marriage,

Janet's husband Malcolm has moved up in the ranks

and is now head of academic training at the college.

OK, well, good morning everyone. Good morning.

We're thinking this morning about poverty,

about justice and about liberation.

So theological responses to poverty and justice.

Just to start with -

where are all the Christians in the world?

OK, there are 2.2 billion Christians more or less,

about a third of the world's population.

This is my grandad, Enrique.

This is my grandma, Raquel.

So my great grandparents were officers.

And then my grandparents were.

And then...

So what's that? Like four... four generations.

This is my sister Julia Martin.

We were both brought up in the Salvation Army,

so we both were made to go to the Salvation Army

to Sunday school as children.

So we were born little Salvationists.

I remember my dad said, "You have to go until your 16, you have to,

"and then you can choose for yourself."

And we both chose, when we were 16, not to go any more.

We wanted to leave so that we could drink.

That's a big thing in the Salvation Army.

You're not allowed to do it, so you want to do it.

I eventually decided that I would come back and she never did.

She never went back.

Africa, 516 million Christians these days.

100 years ago there were 10 million Christians in Africa.

You can see where the growth is occurring.

The UK comes in 21st, with 33 million.

The shifting balance of believers in the world demands

a continuing consideration of what it means

to worship a God who is portrayed in the Bible

not only as indescribable and wonderful,

but as deeply committed to justice for the poor and excluded.

This is William Booth's thing.

This is his seminal book that he wrote,

In Darkest England And The Way Out.

And this is how he saw... So he saw...

These are Salvation Army people

and these are the people in the sea

and the sea is, look, "homeless",

"betting", "starvation",

"unemployed".

And then all these people are... pulling them out.

If you were drowning in slavery or prison, or drinking,

wouldn't you...

and someone said, "I love you so much that I want to help you,"...

..wouldn't you want to take him up on his offer?

I want people to have, everybody to have had a good life.

Everyone to have been happy. To find happiness.

Cos it's not fair if you do and

just because someone else was born on the other side of the world, or

to a mother who was a drug addict, they have a worse life than you.

That's not fair.

She was quite young when she had me, my mum.

She was 15, I was born in a convent.

Dad was a chronic alcoholic.

I had some real issues as a kid.

I was six-years-old when my dad battered my mum with a spanner.

And I woke up to that. My sister was crying and I went down and I saw

the blood all over the kitchen and that was quite horrific.

I did start to have real issues with red.

I had issues with washing my hands so many times.

I had issues with washing my hands so many times.

My mother obviously survived

and then, lo and behold, the day after my dad

got off with what he'd done,

Mum and Dad were back together again.

The Jesus Club when I became 11

was able to help me through all of that as a kid.

I remember at night in the dark with the window all steamed up,

I used to draw images of crosses and God

and I'd just want to draw heaven,

and then my dad used to shout at me for drawing pictures of angels.

I've always had God in my mind,

I've always had Jesus in my mind,

and not fully understood it.

My grandma came to rescue us.

She was my gift from God really

cos without her, I'd have been in queer street,

I'd have been in a right mess.

After a traumatic early childhood,

Darron was taken in and raised by his grandmother from the age of 11.

That's my beautiful grandma, Dorothy.

Her health really started to deteriorate

prior, about a year before coming,

thinking about coming to here, to college.

She thought I was a fool for leaving a really good job

and the car and the security. That troubled her.

Up to the point of her illness,

she would always say, "I'm a good person, I don't need God."

I think the hardest thing as a Christian is you're wanting somebody,

you want everybody to be Christian

because you know that that has a bearing on where you spend eternity.

The thought of my beautiful grandma not being in heaven horrifies me.

MAN SINGING IN BACKGROUND

So now we're going to get you to

fill in your New Testament Introduction evaluation form.

This is not going to take any time at all.

And in a totally unrelated note, as you're filling these out,

I've made you a cake. LAUGHTER

Darron was a baker so he can evaluate that cupcake.

My only criticism... Ten out of ten. ..is constructive criticism.

Your mistake was you piped from the middle outwards.

You should pipe from the paper case inwards.

More practice, Janet, more practice.

Thank you. But it was a good attempt, wasn't it? It's very good.

Do you want me tell you my story?

OK. This was me. I grew up in the Salvation Army

and I kind of had this arrangement with God.

I will give my life to you.

I'll pray to you and that sort of thing.

And in return, you will look after me and my family.

And that was a kind of deal.

And that, that was my kind of faith - really, kind of,

selfish faith, self-absorbed.

That was it, right? That was the deal.

And I kept my side of the deal.

But, um, five years ago,

I got a phone call from my sister saying, "I'm not feeling very well."

So, then you start praying.

And then two weeks later, she... she was dead. She died.

And I said, "Well, you've just let me down big time, God."

I just thought, "God is so mean.

"He's really mean."

The year after my sister died,

my mum gave me this as a Christmas present.

I can remember going to school and standing at the edge,

cos they had different playgrounds.

And I was stood at the edge of the juniors' playground

and looking for her to make sure she was all right.

Cos there was four years, four years, so there was quite a big gap,

so I was the big sister.

That's me, that's Julia.

This was...

This we found in my sister's camera when she died.

They're the last pictures of her alive.

I did the service,

the burial of the ashes service.

Only because I wanted to be the minister and not the mourner.

I couldn't bear to be the mourner. I wanted to minister to everybody.

"We believe in the immortality of the soul

"and the resurrection of the body

"and the general judgment at the end of the world."

You see, I want to believe in the resurrection of the body.

"In the eternal happiness of the righteous

"and in the endless punishment of the wicked."

People that have said the right words go to heaven and

people who haven't said them go to hell, whether they're good or bad.

You've got your ticket out of here.

Could I just ask? I'm just really troubled at the minute. Mm.

Could everybody just pray for my grandma? Of course, yeah.

Just support her in prayer. Yeah. She really needs it right now.

She's... I don't know how long she's got. OK. She's in incredible pain.

Yeah, OK. What's her name? Dorothy. Dorothy.

And who's with her? Is there anybody with her at the moment? My mum.

Your mum. OK.

God we pause in these moments to think about Dorothy.

And, God, we ask right now as we're here

that your peace will descend upon her, Lord.

Fill her mind and her heart with calmness.

May she be aware of you, God.

Minister to her we pray.

I'm going to play some music.

This track of music is called Grace's Waltz

by a man called Fernando Ortega,

written for his grandmother, who was called Grace.

MUSIC: "Grace's Waltz" by Fernado Ortega

My hang up is that Grandma needs to say

a certain set of words in a prayer.

Given my grandma's dementia becoming worse,

I'm just thinking,

"Lord, how's my grandma going to be able to say words

"that are going to make a difference for her eternity."

What makes me sad is I'm not able now to have that conversation with her.

The thought of her going to hell, I just couldn't comprehend that.

In essence, Doctrine 11 speaks about heaven and hell.

It's a very clear divide.

Those who believe in Jesus go to heaven...

..and those who don't go to hell.

And they're eternally dammed for ever so there's no second chance.

And they're eternally dammed for ever so there's no second chance.

You die not believing in Jesus...

..then there's no second chance.

CHRIS BALDWIN: The word I would use to describe Darron's experience

right at the moment is emotional roller coaster.

He has...

He's had a huge series of ups and downs

over this last term in particular.

He'd struggled with the initial coming to college, change of life,

engaging with the academic side of things.

It is Darron's gran's funeral.

It's today. Today?

Is it this morning or this afternoon?

Could even be... Think it's early this afternoon.

Yeah, it is the afternoon, he said yesterday.

I think we should just say a prayer for Darron and the family.

Some people have said some horrible stuff to me

in the name of Christianity.

We didn't pray enough.

If we just prayed a little bit more...

..when my sister was ill or...

death is a kind of healing.

I remember thinking,

"Oh, I need her to be a Christian, I need her to say the magic words."

Isn't that awful?

Isn't it awful that we're put in this position?

That we are, you know, that we're worried that our loved ones are...

And then people say stuff to you.

You know, "Oh, well nobody knows what happens in the final minutes

"before you die so she probably said those magic words in her own head."

That's what they say, don't they?

Otherwise my sister's in hell.

Has my grandma uttered verbally out loud maybe the thing that

I've spent my whole life trying to get her to say -

I believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and I want to be saved.

And I never heard those words come out of her mouth.

If I get in, and she's not there...

..maybe I fear it won't be heaven.

(Love you, Grandma.)

BIRDSONG

Well, how many people have ever lived?

If there are seven billion alive now, how many people have lived?

I think it's probably another seven billion.

If we believe in the resurrection of the body, where would we all fit?

And also...

..if someone had had a liver transplant,

and then we believe in the resurrection of the body...

and then we believe in the resurrection of the body...

..who would get the liver when we came back?

I think we're not physical bodies, are we? I think we're like...

A CHOIR SINGS

# Master, we are here

# Master, we are here

# We are here for you. #

At William Booth College, we all have a past.

We do.

And we all have those things that... shape us good and bad,

painful and joyful.

We explore those. We explore those carefully.

There is a strong emphasis on the development of

the private world of faith...

..and of devotional time and life...

..because that's where our character is shaped and formed.

That's where we start to get the answers to the big questions.

I was on the Child Protection Register because of neglect,

both physical and emotional.

The file on my childhood, it tells of a really poor family,

it tells of me being very anxious and very upset.

Essentially a child on edge.

It talked about how dirty we were, what the place was like,

when we were left alone, when...

..we were smacked. When we were...

It went into doctor's reports cos I had febrile convulsions

It went into doctor's reports cos I had febrile convulsions

because of the stress.

The end of the report is, "We think they need to be put up for adoption."

MAN: Father God, we are your people.

You have called us by name.

The first phrase that I said to God was,

"Oh, yes, you're someone I can talk to,"

kind of actually really tells me that I trusted him

from the spark of my faith.

I prayed to him and I said, "So, do you want me to be

"a Salvation Army officer?" and he went, "Yes,"

and I went "Oh!"

I didn't quite believe it at the time.

And that was really the start of it.

How did God say yes? I've never heard him say anything. No.

Um, to be honest, sometimes in my doubting stages

I would say, "Did I actually hear a voice?

"Are you sure?"

But actually, yeah, it was a definitive yes.

I think it's hard to talk about

why people are here without the use

of the word "calling" though,

because I think that's fundamental.

I think how we understand that may differ.

I think how we understand that may differ.

Um, for some people it is because God has literally spoken to them.

For me it wasn't like an audible voice in my head.

It was just a gradual kind of...

..in a way something I can't really kind of describe.

I didn't choose to be here.

But I can only say that it's been made clear

again and again that God's called me to the Salvation Army.

Is that what you're saying? God chose you to be here?

God did choose me to be here

and God's chosen me to do his mission

and I'm being faithful in what God's asked me to do.

There's this idea that kind of you keep pushing

doors to see if they'll open.

And I pushed doors and eventually

God just said to me very clearly one day,

"It's OK, Katy, you can stop, um, pushing.

"It's fine.

"This is what I've called you to be.

"You don't have to question any more."

I decided when I was 18,

I decided that I would become a Salvation Army officer.

Well, however you want to explain the whole deciding thing.

Was it I decided? Was it God? Was it destiny? All that sort of thing.

Um, but part of that decision was -

cos it sounds like you're a really altruistic person

cos you just want to serve suffering humanity.

But I have to be honest, and there was a little part of me that

thought, "This is going to be the easiest way of doing Christianity

"because I'll be in the uniform, and I won't have to have a proper job.

"And I won't have to explain myself all the time to people

"cos they'll just assume what the uniform means.

"They'll just assume it."

That's what I thought.

Spiritual transformation into Christ-likeness

is the process of forming the inner world of the person

in such a way that it takes on the character of Jesus himself.

That's why we're here.

That's kind of what college is about.

That is what the Christian life is about.

The whole journey is about becoming more like Jesus.

And that's not just what we hope for ourselves.

But I hope that's what you want your people to become as well.

DANCE MUSIC TO FOXTROT TIMING

This particular dance is

the foxtrot. It was one of our best dances.

The life of a dancer is you live, breathe and sleep dancing

and there's no boundaries to how you can express yourself.

You feel free, you feel alive,

you feel like there is fire in you.

After hanging up her dancing shoes, Sylvia has come

to live and study in the college as an officer cadet.

It's a world away from the glamorous life of a ballroom dancer.

Yeah, I look happy, I look content.

I'm excited to be there. That's me there.

So that's the back.

I was that thin once.

Yeah, so that was what I used to wear.

When did you wear that?

I wore it... Last time I wore this I was 28.

That was 1998.

I wore it in Japan and it was the World Standard Championships.

I was representing New Zealand as the amateur champion.

A little bit of Strictly in me!

I always wanted to be a champion dancer

so I would say I was pretty selfish.

Pretty self-focused I would say.

It was about me and my partner, my dance partner.

And so your training is five hours a day,

five nights a week, sometimes seven nights a week.

Five-star hotels, travelling around the world,

being this kind of celebrity person that everyone wants to be.

You live, breathe and sleep dancing

and that's what you have to do to be a good champion dancer.

The body lies right at the centre of the spiritual life.

You know, so many of us have this hatred of our bodies.

How we look at ourselves affects us spiritually.

I do believe that.

You know you look at that gorgeous magnolia tree

and you just think, "Wow, that's amazing".

And you kind of think the world is amazing.

And yet we look at ourselves, as equally created by God, and go,

"Nah, God really messed up that time."

Bodily pleasure is not in itself a bad thing,

but when it's exalted to a necessity and we become dependent upon it,

then we are slaves to our bodies and its failings.

And I hope it's obvious that we'd beware of presenting our bodies

in ways that deliberately elicit sexual thoughts and feelings

in ways that deliberately elicit sexual thoughts and feelings

and actions from others.

It is a highly sexualised world. There's mirrors everywhere.

The girls groom themselves, they wear fake nails, fake tan.

They do their hair. You're growing in your vanity.

You're growing in your ego.

And I think it's really hard to fight those forces, you know?

There is a tendency to get into the addiction of dance

and the lifestyle becomes addictive with it,

so they come together as an addiction, I think.

It was a season of my life.

It's full of joy and sadness side by side.

And that was the last time we danced together.

He broke off with me. Well, he broke my heart first, yeah.

I can't dance without him.

After her ballroom career, Sylvia worked with prostitutes

and drug addicts before applying to become a Salvation Army officer.

Give me your life and I'll give you a new life.

That's the exchange right there as a Christian.

Sparkly on the outside. Now I'm just sparkly on the inside.

Bye-bye, former life.

Before graduating,

all cadets have to complete several social work placements

to prepare them to run the Army's churches and social centres.

Annmarie is studying for her next placement.

The army has a history of protecting families as a whole.

Often they've not had a voice

and it's about giving a voice to the voiceless.

This is one book of many books that would have been written.

And there are so many people in it.

They've been either abandoned straightaway by their families

or they have been left into the care of the Salvation Army.

or they have been left into the care of the Salvation Army.

They're interested in whether they have fallen,

which, in this case, would have been, have they had sex?

Sent in by the NSPCC.

And she's actually been abused by her father.

In this book, those who have been abused by their family members

have resonated most strongly.

The people in here could be anybody. It could be me.

My plea to you this morning, as you head out in a little while,

is as Christian leaders

to inspire,

to educate the people that we serve.

What you're being asked to do is serious stuff

in terms of leading a community.

Of being the bridge between a whole group of people.

Between themselves and God, of course.

Satan has no authority over you.

You can tell him quite frankly where to go.

And I hope you know where to tell him to go.

And I hope, I pray, you'll all have a wonderful, greatly inspiring,

if not perspiring, placement and that through your work

and your ministry, sheep are gathered in

and souls will be saved.

Communities transformed.

Where do you normally sleep? We're from the Salvation Army.

In the run-up to her placement,

Annmarie is being mentored by Major Estelle Blake

who teaches cadets about outreach work

with addicts, the homeless and prostitutes.

So who are the female victims of sexual exploitation?

It involves adults and children of all ages.

Many of the victims that come into our service

were first trafficked and exploited when they were children.

The Salvation Army manage the Ministry of Justice contract

to support victims of human trafficking.

As part of the recruitment process, somebody is tricked.

They're sold a lie actually. They're sold a story.

They're sold a dream.

And for people who are hopeless,

or feeling that there's no opportunities where they are,

this is a really important element.

They are kept somewhere, always forced to do something

that they would not willingly choose to do.

Are we heading Judd Street way?

No, we're going back up towards York Way.

OK.

Estelle is taking Annmarie to some of the saunas,

massage parlours and table-dancing clubs in her area.

When I first arrived, there were a lot of dark spaces down here.

So we used to always discover the dark spaces

and that's where we used to go.

I think when I first came to King's Cross,

there would be 30 to 50 women every night working in the area.

We had a list of names, approximately 200 women in the district.

Is the sex trade still there? Where is it now?

It's off streets. They've gone into brothels.

The sex trade is more or less in brothels and massage parlours

and saunas.

The consumer is driving prices down for sex as well.

The people who are producing that commodity

The people who are producing that commodity

have to be paid less and less.

Somewhere along the line, somebody has been at least exploited

and possibly trafficked.

If there's something to be sold,

somebody will want to make money out it.

It's a shocker, isn't it?

The charges for a woman now that she would make of a client,

when I first came here, we were talking ?200 for penetrative sex.

Now, and if it was on the street, it would be done for ?50.

The average price for a blow job, the last time I heard,

on the streets was about ?15.

We know that they're working in there in prostitution.

Selling their bodies for sexual purposes for men.

That's not ever discussed.

The whole point that we're going in there is to discover this mum.

She was telling us that she had taken her daughter

to a Salvation Army toddler group.

Obviously a child of that age won't know what Mum does at night.

Estelle sometimes goes into the clubs to give the staff

working there an opportunity to talk.

I'm not a psychologist but I'm a vicar.

So what we sometimes do is we just go into a place and sit and chat.

If the women want to tell us anything, they unload to us.

Hey, ladies, how are you?

We need to just sit and be seen.

Yeah.

Hi, my name is Estelle and this is Annmarie. Hi.

We've come in from the Salvation Army.

We just come in and sit and then if anyone wants to have a chat with us,

we're not here as clients or anything.

We almost come in like a chaplaincy.

So, what made you decide?

Money. OK.

I hate to say it, I'm not sure

you'd find another job that would pay that much money.

you'd find another job that would pay that much money.

Take care, folks. God bless.

As much as we can be angry about it, she's doing this work -

she's pole dancing, lap dancing, table dancing,

whatever you want to call it -

she's dancing to pay her way through university.

And the saddest thing about that is she's a Christian.

She said to me, "I go to church but no-one at church knows I work here."

It didn't shock me that a Christian would choose to work in there,

especially when you find out that for her, she's having to hide it.

I think that's sad.

They're so beautiful.

And they are talented in what they do.

I wouldn't choose it for the world.

But at the same time,

I have to respect...

..that that is who they are at that time.

Probably everybody else just sees them as some weird object.

There will be people who think,

"What an earth is a minister doing sitting in a lap-dancing club?"

What an earth is a minister doing sitting in a church?

Sometimes I ask that question

because a church is not the four walls of a building.

Church is what's going on outside.

And in that place, that was church.

It's the weirdest looking church in the world but it was church.

And that woman, who is a Christian, knows that with us

she can be who she is.

She can be honest and we are probably the only people

she is completely honest with about what she's doing.

It's not often that you see such huge prayers answered.

We also have a prayer request for a lady

who is desperate to get out of the cycle of prostitution.

Father, we pray today for her that you'll grant her strength

and courage, God bless her today we pray.

# Lord of all gentleness

# Lord of all calm

# Whose voice is contentment... #

You start lap dancing and then you end up in prostitution.

Not that all girls do but there's a tendency to head that way.

Because the money is better.

So if you're in it for the money, and you want more money,

and you're dancing, well, one thing leads to another

and before you know it, you're doing things that you don't want to do

just for the money. That's what I've seen.

Morning.

So you had a moment?

Well, it was only a thought, thank God.

It was only a thought.

But God's good, he rescues you from your thoughts.

Morning.

Hi, girls, have you just finished your shift? You look tired.

We always see the nurses coming out.

Yeah. We do prayer walking every Friday morning.

We always meet the nurses coming out.

Lord, we pray for the staff here today.

We pray for a peaceful day for each person.

We pray for breakthrough, Lord.

So, Father, we're just praying today for your peace to come,

both with the patients but also with the staff, Lord.

That guy, what's his name? Albert, isn't it?

You're doing a wonderful job again today.

Thanks for doing all this.

Can we pray for you this morning, Albert?

Anything that's on your heart? Just leave it to you.

OK, just leave it to us.

Just give thanks in our wake, you know.

Thanks for Albert, Lord.

We thank you for all he does this morning

and we ask for divine favour for Albert this morning, Lord.

In Jesus' name, Amen.

Have a good one, Albert. Have a good one, Albert. See you later.

See you next week, maybe. All right, love. Goodbye.

I'm remembering names along the street.

That's good. That's good. I never remember names.

Morning, ladies. Morning, ladies.

We don't really want to pray in the doorway.

We don't want to pray in the doorway because people are going in there

for all sorts of sexual issues and diseases and stuff.

We're going to pray here for the sexual clinic up the road.

Morning.

Morning

Father, we know that...

I sat next to a woman once who was prostituting on the steps

of a Salvation Army. She was sitting there, it was a lovely afternoon.

She had scabs all over her face from using crack cocaine.

Her hair was everywhere, she was a mess.

She was underweight and she was very edgy

and she was waiting for a client.

And I said to her, "How's your day going so far?"

I sat down next to her and she looked at me

and said, "I'm in a living hell."

Have you lived in that place?

In hell? Yeah. yeah, I have.

The Salvation Army is for the wounded, for sure.

Its for the wounded, it's for the lost,

it's for the broken.

People who are outcast from society, who don't fit in.

But wounded doesn't have to be visible either.

But wounded doesn't have to be visible either.

You don't have to be homeless or in poverty or diseased

or physically broken to be wounded.

Darron has come to the National Gallery to reflect

on how his lifelong passion for art relates to his new calling.

Probably lost count of how many times I've seen this painting

over the years.

When I used to finish work, whenever the gallery was open,

I used to come in here.

The story of this picture of St Jerome,

he was battling with the things of this world

that were causing him angst.

He was a very wealthy individual seeking perfection.

Having to give up his possessions and the things that he's loved.

He chose to give up everything of himself.

That's what God is wanting of us all.

We've all got to decide every single day what we've got to give up.

I've got a storage unit full of paintings and pictures and things.

And I have got a little moral dilemma at the minute.

What are you holding on to all those things for? I love 'em.

I like 'em. I want them. They're important.

Yeah, maybe that's what I'm wrestling with at the minute.

Maybe there is that need to let go.

To get rid of.

I think the other thing that is interesting there

is that dark cloud suggesting that he's not in a perfection yet.

It's one of my guilty pleasures.

I can give up the drink.

Cigarettes have not really interested me

but if somebody said I had to give up...art I'd...

I don't think I need to.

MUSIC ON TRUMPET: "Michael Rowed The Boat Ashore"

Hiya, can I have a word?

Of course you can. Come on in, have a seat.

How can I help you?

Um, it's a request, really.

I don't quite know what to do with this idea I've got.

I just thought it would be really good

to do a car boot with the cadets.

I just wondered whether we could have permission

to go AWOL, to do mission for just one weekend to see if it worked.

Because car boots is your thing, isn't it?

It is my thing.

The first thing I remember about you was you said,

"The army wouldn't let me do a car boot cos it was on a Sunday."

Yeah, that was the big issue.

I'm just trying to work all of that out at the minute.

You know we're all sat in church on a Sunday

and there's all these people milling about.

What is your idea of church then, Darron?

My motivation is that people get Jesus.

Have an opportunity to meet this Jesus that I love.

And do church in the open air.

I think it's a really good idea.

I don't think you should lose your passion.

I like your watch as well.

You like the watch?

Very nice watch. Is it Ben 10?

HE CHUCKLES

If you want to be perfect, go sell your possessions

and give to the poor.

And you will have treasure in heaven. Then come follow me.

I tell you the truth.

It's hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven.

And again I tell you, it's easier for a camel to go through

the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.

Nice clock, isn't it?

I like it but I've got no use for it.

I've spent my whole life being with people in sales

so maybe it's the frustrated salesman in me

that needs to get out of college every now and again.

Hello. We're the Salvation Army.

There's a voucher for a free doughnut.

And there's a voucher for a free drink.

We've also got you a promise. In the box is a promise.

OK, so you need some money.

No, I don't want any pennies. No money. No money.

Just want to say we know what it's like,

it's a busy day trading so just have a great day.

Really? God bless. OK, see ya!

We're not after any money.

It's free, it's completely free.