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Today, on Good Friday, Christians across the world | 0:00:04 | 0:00:06 | |
are looking again at the story of Jesus - | 0:00:06 | 0:00:09 | |
of his journey into Jerusalem, | 0:00:09 | 0:00:12 | |
his Last Supper, the Crucifixion | 0:00:12 | 0:00:15 | |
and, of course, his suffering. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:16 | |
And I'm no different - I'm going to look at that story again as well. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:19 | |
But I always want to know, | 0:00:19 | 0:00:20 | |
what is the thing in the story that I've not seen before? | 0:00:20 | 0:00:22 | |
What have I missed? | 0:00:22 | 0:00:23 | |
So this year, I want to look at the story | 0:00:25 | 0:00:29 | |
through the eyes of the villain of the piece. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:32 | |
I want to look at the story through the eyes of Judas. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:35 | |
# Judas, Juda-ah-ah | 0:00:35 | 0:00:37 | |
# Judas, Juda-ah-ah... # | 0:00:37 | 0:00:40 | |
Judas still has the power to shock. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:42 | |
The most famous traitor in history, he lives on because of a kiss... | 0:00:45 | 0:00:49 | |
..which sent Jesus, his friend and teacher, to his death on the cross. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:55 | |
His name is shorthand for treachery, | 0:00:56 | 0:00:59 | |
used on the football terraces ... | 0:00:59 | 0:01:01 | |
Judas! | 0:01:02 | 0:01:03 | |
..and in the political arena. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:05 | |
-Judas! -Nick Clegg's a Judas! -Judas! | 0:01:05 | 0:01:08 | |
When we accuse someone of "selling out", | 0:01:08 | 0:01:10 | |
there's an echo of Judas | 0:01:10 | 0:01:12 | |
and the 30 pieces of silver he traded for his friend's life. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:16 | |
And the kiss of death is a graphic reference | 0:01:16 | 0:01:20 | |
to the moment when Judas the disciple | 0:01:20 | 0:01:23 | |
became Judas the betrayer. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:25 | |
Judas' great crime is the fact that he betrays his friend. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:28 | |
He was the insider, the follower who turned against his master. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:33 | |
He's the person who CANNOT be forgiven. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:36 | |
And yet, at the same time, | 0:01:36 | 0:01:38 | |
Judas' betrayal was a vital part of the Easter story. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:42 | |
Without Judas, there is no death of Jesus and there is no salvation. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:47 | |
He is just this fascinating figure | 0:01:47 | 0:01:49 | |
because he's at the heart of the whole story. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:52 | |
Why did this man - who'd been living alongside Jesus, | 0:01:55 | 0:01:59 | |
who'd been walking with him, teaching with him, | 0:01:59 | 0:02:01 | |
preaching with him and believing in him - | 0:02:01 | 0:02:03 | |
betray him at his most desperate hour, | 0:02:03 | 0:02:06 | |
when he needed his friends more than ever? | 0:02:06 | 0:02:09 | |
And on Good Friday, | 0:02:09 | 0:02:11 | |
when we hear again that story of Jesus dying for our sins, | 0:02:11 | 0:02:14 | |
is Judas excluded from that redemption? | 0:02:14 | 0:02:17 | |
Welcome to my home from home. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:35 | |
Now, I always think best in a church, | 0:02:35 | 0:02:38 | |
so here I've gathered all sorts of evidence | 0:02:38 | 0:02:41 | |
so that we can get a better picture of the life and death of Judas, | 0:02:41 | 0:02:46 | |
this shadowy and mysterious figure. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:48 | |
'This is my place to think, ask questions, | 0:02:51 | 0:02:55 | |
'and reassemble the facts and feelings I've collected | 0:02:55 | 0:02:58 | |
'on my journey into the mind of Judas.' | 0:02:58 | 0:03:01 | |
'I've travelled to Jerusalem, | 0:03:02 | 0:03:04 | |
'and the places where he spent his final days | 0:03:04 | 0:03:07 | |
'planning and executing his treachery.' | 0:03:07 | 0:03:10 | |
'And to a remote English village | 0:03:12 | 0:03:14 | |
'for a unique and moving interpretation of his death.' | 0:03:14 | 0:03:18 | |
'Along the way, I've talked to fellow travellers on pilgrimage | 0:03:20 | 0:03:24 | |
'and to some of the best minds in the country | 0:03:24 | 0:03:26 | |
'to help me unravel this complex figure | 0:03:26 | 0:03:29 | |
'many see as the embodiment of evil.' | 0:03:29 | 0:03:32 | |
My journey began here, in my home village in Blyth. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:38 | |
My name is Kate Bottley. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:44 | |
I've been a Christian since I was 14 | 0:03:44 | 0:03:46 | |
and I was ordained a priest six years ago. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:49 | |
I have a husband, two children, and three churches. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:53 | |
Oh, and Buster the dog. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:55 | |
This is one of my churches, St Mary's and St Martin's. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:01 | |
It's Sunday morning and I've already taken one communion service. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:05 | |
The Lord be with you. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:08 | |
-CONGREGATION: -And also with you. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:09 | |
'At every Eucharist service, I'm reminded of the events in Jerusalem | 0:04:09 | 0:04:13 | |
'leading to Christ's crucifixion. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:17 | |
'The words are taken from the earliest source we have | 0:04:17 | 0:04:20 | |
'for the betrayal of Jesus, | 0:04:20 | 0:04:22 | |
'which is St Paul's Letters to the Corinthians in the New Testament.' | 0:04:22 | 0:04:26 | |
..who, in the same night that he was betrayed, | 0:04:26 | 0:04:30 | |
took bread and gave ye thanks... | 0:04:30 | 0:04:32 | |
'Paul doesn't even mention the name of Jesus' betrayer.' | 0:04:32 | 0:04:36 | |
It's the four Gospel writers in the New Testament | 0:04:40 | 0:04:43 | |
that fill in the name gap left by Paul in his letters. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:47 | |
Judas is mentioned in 22 verses, | 0:04:47 | 0:04:49 | |
and actually, that's quite a lot, second only to Peter. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:53 | |
Then Judas Iscariot, who was one of the 12, | 0:04:53 | 0:04:56 | |
went to the chief priests in order to betray him to them... | 0:04:56 | 0:05:00 | |
When Judas, his betrayer, saw that Jesus was condemned, he repented. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:05 | |
"One of you will betray me." | 0:05:05 | 0:05:06 | |
The accounts of the Gospel writers sometimes differ, sometimes overlap, | 0:05:08 | 0:05:12 | |
but they remain the oldest and most reliable source | 0:05:12 | 0:05:16 | |
in the search for Judas' elusive character. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:19 | |
The New Testament Gospels were written by people | 0:05:19 | 0:05:22 | |
who were in touch with the eyewitness testimony of the time, | 0:05:22 | 0:05:26 | |
so within a generation or two of Jesus' ministry on earth. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:30 | |
Mark's Gospel is generally thought to be the earliest Gospel. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:33 | |
John is thought to be the latest of all, | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
and that is the Gospel that paints Judas in the worst possible light. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:41 | |
There are two details about Judas on which all the Gospel writers agree. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:48 | |
First, that he was chosen by Jesus to be one of his 12 disciples. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:53 | |
And secondly, and most crucially, that he betrayed his master. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:57 | |
What else can the Gospels tell us? | 0:05:59 | 0:06:02 | |
Just who was this traitor? | 0:06:02 | 0:06:04 | |
One of the clues could be in his name. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:13 | |
"Iscariot" is rather mysterious, | 0:06:17 | 0:06:19 | |
and both in ancient times and in modern times, | 0:06:19 | 0:06:22 | |
people have wondered what this means. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:25 | |
One popular theory is that the name Iscariot | 0:06:25 | 0:06:28 | |
links Judas to a group of radical nationalists called Sicarii, | 0:06:28 | 0:06:33 | |
who fought against the Roman occupation | 0:06:33 | 0:06:35 | |
and their Jewish collaborators. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:37 | |
They were kind of terrorists of the 1st century in Judea, | 0:06:39 | 0:06:43 | |
and they got their name from this little dagger, | 0:06:43 | 0:06:45 | |
called a sica in Latin, | 0:06:45 | 0:06:49 | |
and they used to stab people, basically. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:51 | |
They were pretty violent. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:53 | |
Some scholars have this idea that Judas got his name, Iscariot, | 0:06:53 | 0:06:58 | |
from the Sicarius, and that he was a revolutionary. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:03 | |
The difficulty with that explanation, though, | 0:07:03 | 0:07:05 | |
is that we only know about the Sicarii | 0:07:05 | 0:07:07 | |
from about the '50s onwards. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:10 | |
Which puts Judas 20 years outside of the Sicarii timeframe. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:14 | |
There is a simpler interpretation of Iscariot, | 0:07:16 | 0:07:20 | |
and it could tell us something about the status of Judas | 0:07:20 | 0:07:23 | |
within Jesus' inner circle. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:25 | |
The most common explanation is that it simply means "man from Kerioth". | 0:07:26 | 0:07:32 | |
"Ish Kerioth." | 0:07:32 | 0:07:33 | |
But the difficulty is that we don't know exactly where Kerioth is. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:37 | |
People have suggested it may be a town in Judea, in the south. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:41 | |
And since all of the other disciples were from Galilee in the north, | 0:07:41 | 0:07:44 | |
that means that Judas would have been an outsider then, | 0:07:44 | 0:07:47 | |
not necessarily part of the mainstream group. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:51 | |
I've always been intrigued by this idea of Judas as an outsider, | 0:07:55 | 0:07:59 | |
different from all the other disciples. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:01 | |
In fact, when the Gospel writers do a list | 0:08:01 | 0:08:04 | |
of all Jesus' disciples' names, they always put Judas last, | 0:08:04 | 0:08:08 | |
and they always call him "Judas, the one who betrayed Jesus." | 0:08:08 | 0:08:11 | |
But presumably at some time, he was just as trusted, | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
just as respected and just as close to Jesus as any of the others. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:21 | |
The disciples were not volunteers. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:25 | |
They were chosen by Jesus | 0:08:25 | 0:08:27 | |
and, as part of his select group, | 0:08:27 | 0:08:29 | |
they were there not just to follow him | 0:08:29 | 0:08:31 | |
but to play an active part in his ministry. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:34 | |
Judas was one of the chosen few. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
Then Jesus summoned his 12 disciples | 0:08:41 | 0:08:43 | |
and gave them authority over unclean spirits, to cast them out, | 0:08:43 | 0:08:47 | |
and to cure every disease and every sickness. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:50 | |
So what changed to turn Judas from a trusted believer to a betrayer? | 0:08:52 | 0:08:58 | |
The catalyst seems to have been the decision by Jesus | 0:09:03 | 0:09:06 | |
to take his message beyond the remote backwaters of Galilee, | 0:09:06 | 0:09:09 | |
in the north of the Holy Land, where he'd grown up, | 0:09:09 | 0:09:12 | |
and travel south to Jerusalem - the centre of the Jewish world. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:18 | |
In the early part of Jesus' ministry, | 0:09:18 | 0:09:20 | |
he'd been up in Galilee, | 0:09:20 | 0:09:21 | |
broadly working around the sort of places that he knew. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:24 | |
So he based himself in Capernaum, | 0:09:24 | 0:09:27 | |
and he moved around the towns and villages around the Sea of Galilee. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:31 | |
Some disciples maybe even went home at night. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:33 | |
But the last part of his ministry, when he went down to Jerusalem, | 0:09:33 | 0:09:37 | |
they had to leave their homes, | 0:09:37 | 0:09:39 | |
and so this is really a new phase in the ministry of Jesus. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:42 | |
I've also travelled to Jerusalem. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:50 | |
It's my first visit. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:52 | |
I want to absorb the atmosphere of the city and see the places | 0:09:52 | 0:09:56 | |
where Jesus walked in his final days with his disciples. | 0:09:56 | 0:09:59 | |
Of course, | 0:10:01 | 0:10:02 | |
I come in full knowledge of the momentous events of that week. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:06 | |
For the disciples, it was a journey into the unknown, | 0:10:07 | 0:10:11 | |
and particularly disturbing because Jesus predicted | 0:10:11 | 0:10:14 | |
that Jerusalem was where he would suffer and die. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:17 | |
For he was teaching his disciples, saying to them, | 0:10:20 | 0:10:23 | |
"The Son of Man is to be betrayed into human hands, | 0:10:23 | 0:10:26 | |
"and they will kill him, | 0:10:26 | 0:10:28 | |
"and three days after being killed, he will rise again." | 0:10:28 | 0:10:32 | |
But they did not understand what he was saying, | 0:10:33 | 0:10:36 | |
and were afraid to ask him. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:37 | |
All the way through the Gospel stories, | 0:10:38 | 0:10:41 | |
the disciples find it difficult to understand what's going on. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:45 | |
And I think particularly when it gets to Jerusalem, | 0:10:45 | 0:10:48 | |
and Jesus starts talking about the need to die, | 0:10:48 | 0:10:51 | |
I think they're all completely confused. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:54 | |
I certainly have some sympathy for Judas, | 0:10:54 | 0:10:57 | |
in the sense that he was struggling, | 0:10:57 | 0:10:59 | |
as the other disciples were, | 0:10:59 | 0:11:02 | |
to make sense of who this charismatic, unpredictable, | 0:11:02 | 0:11:06 | |
extraordinary person of Jesus really was, and what he required of them. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:09 | |
THEY SING | 0:11:09 | 0:11:12 | |
'Today, Jerusalem's streets are full of pilgrims, | 0:11:12 | 0:11:16 | |
'here to walk in the footsteps of Jesus. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:19 | |
'But I doubt many of them are looking from | 0:11:19 | 0:11:22 | |
'the rarely considered perspective of his betrayer.' | 0:11:22 | 0:11:25 | |
I'm looking for something with Judas on it. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:33 | |
You know Judas? | 0:11:33 | 0:11:34 | |
-What? -Judas. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:36 | |
-What, Jesus? -No, not Jesus, Judas. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:39 | |
No, I don't have these things. I've got some other things. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:42 | |
-Bye for now. -See you. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:44 | |
No. No. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:47 | |
He'll be here somewhere. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:50 | |
Maybe down here, look. | 0:11:56 | 0:11:57 | |
-Have you got anything with Judas on it? -No. | 0:11:57 | 0:12:00 | |
Have you got anything at all with Judas on it? | 0:12:00 | 0:12:04 | |
No. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:05 | |
I'm looking for something with Judas on it. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:07 | |
-With what? -With Judas. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:09 | |
-Jesus? -No, not Jesus. Judas. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
The one that betrayed Jesus. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:13 | |
Thank you. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:17 | |
But which...? Ah, there he is, look. There's Judas. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:21 | |
With his moneybag. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:23 | |
Wow. Amazing. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:25 | |
'Jesus and all his disciples arrived in Jerusalem | 0:12:30 | 0:12:34 | |
'during the celebrations for Passover, | 0:12:34 | 0:12:37 | |
'the holiest time in the Jewish year.' | 0:12:37 | 0:12:39 | |
Jerusalem is a city that's full to bursting with pilgrims | 0:12:39 | 0:12:44 | |
who are intent on spending at least a week, possibly two weeks there. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:47 | |
They're going to be having parties with their family, | 0:12:47 | 0:12:50 | |
lots of eating and drinking. It's a great celebration. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:53 | |
But there were also simmering political tensions. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:58 | |
The Holy Land at that time was occupied by the Romans. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:04 | |
And the message of Passover heightened Jewish resentment | 0:13:05 | 0:13:09 | |
against their military presence. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:11 | |
Passover celebrated the fact that, in the Old Testament, | 0:13:11 | 0:13:14 | |
God had rescued his people out of Egypt, rescued his people | 0:13:14 | 0:13:18 | |
from the oppression by their Egyptian overlords. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:21 | |
And so it was no surprise that many Jews | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
saw the oppression by the Egyptians in the Old Testament | 0:13:24 | 0:13:27 | |
as very much like the oppression that they were experiencing | 0:13:27 | 0:13:32 | |
at the hands of the Romans in the present. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:34 | |
There are Roman troops on the streets. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:37 | |
Roman troops even in the porticoes of the Temple. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:40 | |
Passover was a security nightmare. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:42 | |
There's always that threat, | 0:13:42 | 0:13:44 | |
always that worry that things could explode. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:47 | |
It was in this already charged atmosphere | 0:13:48 | 0:13:52 | |
that Jesus immediately drew attention to himself. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:55 | |
Jesus is clearly somebody to be reckoned with | 0:13:55 | 0:13:58 | |
from the moment he enters Jerusalem. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:00 | |
He comes in on a donkey. He's somebody special. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:03 | |
He's the king coming to claim his city. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:07 | |
When he entered Jerusalem, the whole city was in turmoil, | 0:14:07 | 0:14:11 | |
asking, "Who is this?" | 0:14:11 | 0:14:13 | |
The crowds were saying, | 0:14:13 | 0:14:15 | |
"This is the prophet Jesus, from Nazareth in Galilee." | 0:14:15 | 0:14:19 | |
That would have got the notice of the authorities. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:22 | |
They would have been onto him. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:23 | |
They would have wanted to know what exactly he was about. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
The following day, Jesus went a step further. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:31 | |
He lashed out at the Jewish religious authorities, who, | 0:14:31 | 0:14:34 | |
in exchange for their acceptance of Roman military occupation, | 0:14:34 | 0:14:38 | |
were given money-making privileges. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:41 | |
Then Jesus entered the Temple | 0:14:43 | 0:14:46 | |
and drove out all who were selling and buying in the Temple, | 0:14:46 | 0:14:49 | |
and he overturned the tables of the moneychangers | 0:14:49 | 0:14:52 | |
and the seats of those who sold doves. | 0:14:52 | 0:14:56 | |
Turning over the tables - | 0:14:56 | 0:14:58 | |
this was the action of someone who was a troublemaker | 0:14:58 | 0:15:01 | |
and someone who could upset the delicate political balance | 0:15:01 | 0:15:04 | |
between the Jewish and Roman authorities at the time. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:07 | |
Overturning the tables of the moneychangers | 0:15:07 | 0:15:09 | |
is a spectacular way to announce yourself | 0:15:09 | 0:15:11 | |
as a person who needs to be taken notice of. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:14 | |
THEY SING | 0:15:14 | 0:15:15 | |
I wonder what was going through the disciples' minds? | 0:15:16 | 0:15:20 | |
There must have been a feeling of expectation, | 0:15:20 | 0:15:22 | |
that something was about to happen, but they just didn't know what. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:26 | |
Against this backdrop of political tension and uncertainty, | 0:15:29 | 0:15:34 | |
which was shared by all the disciples, | 0:15:34 | 0:15:36 | |
Judas took it upon himself to act. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:40 | |
Then Judas Iscariot, who was one of the 12, | 0:15:42 | 0:15:46 | |
went to the chief priests in order to betray him to them. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:49 | |
When they heard it, they were greatly pleased | 0:15:50 | 0:15:53 | |
and promised to give him money. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:55 | |
So he began to look for | 0:15:55 | 0:15:56 | |
an opportunity to betray him. | 0:15:56 | 0:15:58 | |
So Judas had already taken the first steps towards treachery | 0:16:00 | 0:16:04 | |
as Jesus and his disciples gathered for their Passover meal - | 0:16:04 | 0:16:08 | |
a defining moment in Christian history, | 0:16:08 | 0:16:11 | |
remembered as The Last Supper. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:13 | |
The Last Supper took place in an upper room | 0:16:23 | 0:16:26 | |
just outside the walls of the Old City. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:29 | |
According to Christian tradition, this Gothic hall, | 0:16:30 | 0:16:34 | |
built by Crusaders, marks the site. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:36 | |
'Even though the room itself dates from centuries after Jesus, | 0:16:42 | 0:16:46 | |
'I feel overwhelmed.' | 0:16:46 | 0:16:48 | |
'I can imagine them all arriving together.' | 0:16:50 | 0:16:52 | |
And when they had taken their places and were eating, | 0:16:57 | 0:17:00 | |
Jesus said, "Truly I tell you, one of you | 0:17:00 | 0:17:05 | |
"will betray me, one who is eating with me." | 0:17:05 | 0:17:09 | |
Jesus was troubled in spirit and declared, | 0:17:09 | 0:17:12 | |
"Very truly I tell you, one of you will betray me." | 0:17:12 | 0:17:16 | |
In the middle of the feasting, in the middle of the chatting | 0:17:18 | 0:17:21 | |
and the noise and a bunch of friends talking to each other, | 0:17:21 | 0:17:24 | |
Jesus announces that one person around this table will betray him. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:29 | |
That must have just cut the whole thing in two, | 0:17:32 | 0:17:36 | |
that must have just split the whole table, really, | 0:17:36 | 0:17:40 | |
and must have stopped them in their tracks. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:43 | |
And Jesus' disciples are all saying, "Well, is it me?" | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
Looking at each other, going, "Is it you?" | 0:17:46 | 0:17:48 | |
And then there's this quiet conversation | 0:17:51 | 0:17:53 | |
and in the middle of that hubbub, | 0:17:53 | 0:17:55 | |
in the middle of those men chatting and discussing, | 0:17:55 | 0:17:58 | |
is this moment of Jesus and Judas... | 0:17:58 | 0:18:01 | |
..just looking each other in the eye, | 0:18:03 | 0:18:05 | |
and knowing what was about to happen. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:07 | |
And Jesus says, "Go and do it. Go and do it quickly." | 0:18:09 | 0:18:13 | |
'And in that quiet conversation is the whole contradiction of Judas - | 0:18:16 | 0:18:20 | |
'the ambiguity of his role in the events of Holy Week | 0:18:20 | 0:18:24 | |
'as the perpetrator of an act that was so evil, | 0:18:24 | 0:18:28 | |
'but also so pivotal in God's plan of redemption for all.' | 0:18:28 | 0:18:32 | |
He is both the instrument of the horrible, painful death of Jesus | 0:18:33 | 0:18:40 | |
and also necessary in God's path of salvation for humanity. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:46 | |
Jesus himself says, you know, | 0:18:46 | 0:18:47 | |
"Woe to that man by whom the Son of Man is betrayed. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:51 | |
"It would be better for him if he hadn't been born." | 0:18:51 | 0:18:54 | |
That's a pretty negative thing to say about anyone. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
And yet, at the same time, you can say, | 0:18:57 | 0:18:59 | |
"Well, if Judas hadn't done what he did, where would we have been?" | 0:18:59 | 0:19:03 | |
So does that excuse Judas as a hapless cog in God's machine? | 0:19:06 | 0:19:11 | |
Well, I strongly believe | 0:19:12 | 0:19:13 | |
that God allows us the freedom to make choices. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:16 | |
When Jesus looked him in the eye, Judas could have changed his mind. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:23 | |
But he didn't. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:24 | |
And that decision to continue on the path to betrayal | 0:19:24 | 0:19:28 | |
is made all the worse by what followed. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:31 | |
While they were eating, Jesus took a loaf of bread | 0:19:33 | 0:19:37 | |
and, after blessing it, he broke it, | 0:19:37 | 0:19:40 | |
gave it to his disciples, and said, | 0:19:40 | 0:19:42 | |
"Take, eat. This is my body." | 0:19:42 | 0:19:46 | |
Then he took a cup and, after giving thanks, he gave it to them, | 0:19:47 | 0:19:51 | |
saying, "Drink from it, all of you, | 0:19:51 | 0:19:54 | |
"for this is my blood of the covenant, | 0:19:54 | 0:19:57 | |
"which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins." | 0:19:57 | 0:20:01 | |
Jesus invited everyone round that table to eat with him, | 0:20:01 | 0:20:06 | |
even the person he knew would betray him, | 0:20:06 | 0:20:08 | |
even the person he knew would hurt him the most. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:11 | |
He still ate with him. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:12 | |
2,000 years later, the sharing of bread and wine, | 0:20:14 | 0:20:18 | |
the Eucharist, remains the central sacrament in Christianity. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:22 | |
It deeply moves me to think about that moment when, for Jesus, | 0:20:23 | 0:20:28 | |
suffering and death was so close. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:31 | |
I celebrate the Eucharist every single Sunday, | 0:20:32 | 0:20:35 | |
sometimes several times on a Sunday, you know, many times a week... | 0:20:35 | 0:20:40 | |
..and I'll confess that not always do I realise the gravitas | 0:20:41 | 0:20:45 | |
of what I'm doing when I break that bread and share that wine. | 0:20:45 | 0:20:49 | |
Sitting here... | 0:20:51 | 0:20:52 | |
..it feels, like, so significant and so important. | 0:20:54 | 0:21:00 | |
And just the sense of sacrifice, | 0:21:02 | 0:21:05 | |
the sense of Jesus understanding fully what was about to happen. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:09 | |
It's just really powerful. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:14 | |
It's really painful as well, it feels really painful. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:19 | |
BELL TOLLS | 0:21:19 | 0:21:22 | |
SHE CHUCKLES | 0:21:24 | 0:21:25 | |
BELLS TOLL | 0:21:29 | 0:21:30 | |
When Judas left the upper room, it was to betray his friend. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:40 | |
Why? | 0:21:41 | 0:21:42 | |
So what of Judas' motive? | 0:21:46 | 0:21:49 | |
The earliest Gospel, the Gospel of Mark, tells us nothing. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:53 | |
Perhaps that's why the later Gospel writers | 0:21:53 | 0:21:56 | |
offered some possible explanations as to why Judas betrayed his friend | 0:21:56 | 0:22:01 | |
so suddenly, so publicly and so terribly. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:05 | |
The most commonly held belief is that Judas did it for the money. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:16 | |
Then one of the 12, who was called Judas Iscariot, | 0:22:16 | 0:22:19 | |
went to the chief priests and said, | 0:22:19 | 0:22:22 | |
"What will you give me if I betray him to you?" | 0:22:22 | 0:22:25 | |
They paid him 30 pieces of silver. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:29 | |
And from that moment, | 0:22:29 | 0:22:31 | |
he began to look for an opportunity to betray him. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:33 | |
Matthew's account is supported by other hints | 0:22:35 | 0:22:38 | |
to suggest that Judas was greedy. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:41 | |
So it's John who says that he was the keeper of the purse, | 0:22:41 | 0:22:44 | |
so like he was the treasurer of the Jesus movement. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:47 | |
And he also says that... | 0:22:47 | 0:22:48 | |
Again, this image again that sticks with Judas all the time, | 0:22:48 | 0:22:51 | |
that he stole the money out of the common purse. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:55 | |
So is that it? Judas was simply corrupted by greed? | 0:22:55 | 0:22:59 | |
It's certainly been one of the most enduring portrayals | 0:22:59 | 0:23:02 | |
down the centuries - Judas clutching his bag of money. | 0:23:02 | 0:23:06 | |
One of the earliest images that we have is from the early 5th century. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:12 | |
It's a little ivory plaque from a Roman casket, | 0:23:12 | 0:23:17 | |
and it sets the tone for Judas imagery throughout the ages, | 0:23:17 | 0:23:20 | |
which is that these images | 0:23:20 | 0:23:22 | |
are not just simple illustrations of Bible stories, | 0:23:22 | 0:23:26 | |
but they are adding symbolic elements, moralising elements. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:31 | |
Perhaps one of the things that everyone would still know | 0:23:31 | 0:23:33 | |
if you asked them about Judas | 0:23:33 | 0:23:34 | |
is that he sells Christ for 30 pieces of silver. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:37 | |
Yet, to me, blaming Judas' treachery on avarice | 0:23:38 | 0:23:42 | |
seems a little too easy, | 0:23:42 | 0:23:44 | |
and today, there's doubt as to how plausible the accusation really is. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:50 | |
The Gospels might explain it was all about the money, | 0:23:51 | 0:23:54 | |
the reward money, but that seems a very weak reason | 0:23:54 | 0:23:58 | |
for someone who had been with Jesus so closely, | 0:23:58 | 0:24:03 | |
who would have been teaching his teaching, healing in his name. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:06 | |
It's very mysterious. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:08 | |
It was a fairly small sum of money, 30 pieces of silver. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:12 | |
It may have been a sort of slight incentive, | 0:24:12 | 0:24:14 | |
but it certainly wouldn't have been the trigger | 0:24:14 | 0:24:16 | |
for Judas betraying Jesus. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:19 | |
It's the price of a slave. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:22 | |
It would probably have kept him going a month or two. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:25 | |
It's not a huge amount. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:27 | |
So I think it's very unlikely that it was simply for the money. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:31 | |
A second explanation for Judas' betrayal | 0:24:34 | 0:24:36 | |
appears in the Gospels of Luke and John, | 0:24:36 | 0:24:39 | |
who both say that he was possessed by the devil. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:42 | |
And actually, in a way, that lets him off a bit, doesn't it? | 0:24:46 | 0:24:49 | |
Because the traditional Christian idea of being possessed by the devil | 0:24:49 | 0:24:52 | |
is the devil comes from the outside. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:54 | |
You can be a good person, the devil will still get you. | 0:24:54 | 0:24:56 | |
So Judas could still have been a good person, | 0:24:56 | 0:24:58 | |
but have just been got by the devil at that moment. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:01 | |
To the modern mind, it all feels rather unbelievable. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:06 | |
I think, in the 21st century, it's hard for all of us - | 0:25:07 | 0:25:10 | |
certainly it's hard for me - to get our heads around | 0:25:10 | 0:25:13 | |
exactly what is meant by the language of Satan | 0:25:13 | 0:25:16 | |
and of demons in the New Testament. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:18 | |
One problem I have with this explanation | 0:25:19 | 0:25:22 | |
is that if Judas' behaviour is put down to an inhuman force, | 0:25:22 | 0:25:26 | |
then he becomes a monster, and not like the rest of us. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:30 | |
When someone does something so terrible, | 0:25:30 | 0:25:33 | |
what we want to do is to separate them out from ourselves, | 0:25:33 | 0:25:35 | |
to label them. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:37 | |
But evil is part of our shared human story, | 0:25:37 | 0:25:41 | |
and it's part of Judas' story, too. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:44 | |
All human beings are capable of doing terrible things | 0:25:44 | 0:25:47 | |
and kind of splitting in that kind of way is comfortable deception. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:52 | |
It's a way of persuading ourselves | 0:25:52 | 0:25:53 | |
that WE couldn't do such terrible things | 0:25:53 | 0:25:55 | |
and WE'RE not implicated in the terrible things in the world, | 0:25:55 | 0:25:58 | |
and that is just plain wrong. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:00 | |
There is one radical theory that Judas didn't betray Jesus at all. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:11 | |
This different version of events appears in an ancient document | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
called the Gospel of Judas. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:17 | |
The betrayer of Jesus is transformed in the Gospel of Judas | 0:26:21 | 0:26:25 | |
into Jesus' trusted disciple, | 0:26:25 | 0:26:28 | |
the one who really receives the revelation | 0:26:28 | 0:26:30 | |
that none of the other disciples do, | 0:26:30 | 0:26:33 | |
the one who has really privileged access | 0:26:33 | 0:26:35 | |
to the truth from Jesus himself. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:37 | |
In this scenario, | 0:26:38 | 0:26:40 | |
the handing over of Jesus to the authorities by Judas | 0:26:40 | 0:26:43 | |
was a plan that they had cooked up between them | 0:26:43 | 0:26:47 | |
so that Jesus could fulfil his destiny. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:49 | |
It means there was no betrayal. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:52 | |
The portrayal of Judas in the Gospel of Judas, er... | 0:26:52 | 0:26:56 | |
is one that avoids all the difficult questions about him. | 0:26:56 | 0:27:01 | |
You don't have to worry any more about whether Judas can be forgiven | 0:27:01 | 0:27:04 | |
because he's Jesus' best friend, and being explicitly ordered | 0:27:04 | 0:27:08 | |
to do what he's doing, and acting just as Jesus wanted him to do. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:12 | |
He's the beloved disciple, if you like, | 0:27:12 | 0:27:14 | |
who really understands who Jesus is. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:16 | |
Judas as the hero rather than the villain? | 0:27:18 | 0:27:22 | |
Well, it's a nice thought, but these are the writings of a sect | 0:27:22 | 0:27:26 | |
who were not part of the mainstream early church. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:29 | |
The Gospel of Judas was written | 0:27:29 | 0:27:31 | |
about three generations after the New Testament Gospels, | 0:27:31 | 0:27:35 | |
and sits alongside other ancient texts | 0:27:35 | 0:27:38 | |
known collectively as the Gnostic Gospels. | 0:27:38 | 0:27:42 | |
Why were they written? | 0:27:42 | 0:27:43 | |
What was the context in which they were written? | 0:27:43 | 0:27:45 | |
They were written in the context of the early church, | 0:27:45 | 0:27:47 | |
the growing church expanding, having arguments around doctrine. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:51 | |
So what people who had a particular gripe against the official line | 0:27:51 | 0:27:56 | |
would do is they'd name themselves after kind of Gospel characters, | 0:27:56 | 0:27:59 | |
often after apostles, | 0:27:59 | 0:28:00 | |
and then they would contradict the official version. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:03 | |
And that is the context in which to see the Gospel of Judas. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:06 | |
If you're feeling a bit suspicious of institutions | 0:28:06 | 0:28:08 | |
and want to be a bit anti-establishment, | 0:28:08 | 0:28:10 | |
there is a great appeal in thinking, | 0:28:10 | 0:28:12 | |
"Yeah, these Gnostic Gospels are really what it's all about." | 0:28:12 | 0:28:15 | |
The idea that this is a text | 0:28:15 | 0:28:16 | |
which actually tells you truly about Jesus... | 0:28:16 | 0:28:19 | |
The other ones have a much, much stronger claim to history | 0:28:19 | 0:28:23 | |
than the Gospel of Judas, so read it at your peril. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:26 | |
My final theory for Judas' motive comes from academics | 0:28:27 | 0:28:31 | |
who have looked beyond Biblical and Gnostic accounts | 0:28:31 | 0:28:35 | |
to what was going on in that part of the world in the 1st century. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:39 | |
They believe that Judas | 0:28:39 | 0:28:40 | |
may have seen Jesus as a political activist, | 0:28:40 | 0:28:43 | |
a military leader who would free the Holy Land by force. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:47 | |
One of the scholarly theories that is held by quite a number of people | 0:28:48 | 0:28:53 | |
is that Judas wanted Jesus to lead a revolution against the Romans... | 0:28:53 | 0:28:59 | |
..to overthrow the Romans and restore a Jewish state. | 0:28:59 | 0:29:03 | |
And, if so, he may well have become gradually disillusioned, | 0:29:03 | 0:29:07 | |
particularly when the group got to Jerusalem | 0:29:07 | 0:29:10 | |
and Jesus started talking about dying. | 0:29:10 | 0:29:12 | |
And that may well have been the issue for Judas. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:17 | |
Jesus wasn't talking like a man of action. | 0:29:17 | 0:29:20 | |
Jesus was actually planning to lay down his life | 0:29:20 | 0:29:23 | |
and be crucified by the Romans, the total opposite | 0:29:23 | 0:29:27 | |
of what many Jews would have wanted a Messiah figure to do. | 0:29:27 | 0:29:31 | |
This notion of a suffering Messiah who would die for their sins | 0:29:31 | 0:29:35 | |
rather than the kind of conquering Messiah, | 0:29:35 | 0:29:37 | |
I mean, this is something radically new and difficult. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:40 | |
So that's one possible theory for why Judas betrayed Jesus - | 0:29:40 | 0:29:45 | |
that he gave up hope in Jesus being the kind of Messiah | 0:29:45 | 0:29:49 | |
that he and other Jews might have wanted. | 0:29:49 | 0:29:51 | |
And taken one step further, | 0:29:53 | 0:29:55 | |
that could mean that Judas alerted the authorities | 0:29:55 | 0:29:59 | |
only as a means of forcing his master to lead the revolution. | 0:29:59 | 0:30:03 | |
You can construct a scenario that he was trying to prompt Jesus | 0:30:03 | 0:30:08 | |
to sort of come out of his shell and really make a stand | 0:30:08 | 0:30:12 | |
and be the revolutionary, | 0:30:12 | 0:30:15 | |
the Che Guevara figure that could lead Israel. | 0:30:15 | 0:30:19 | |
For me, this seems like the most credible motive | 0:30:21 | 0:30:24 | |
with which to set the scene for the moment of betrayal itself - | 0:30:24 | 0:30:29 | |
the kiss, which delivered Jesus to his death on the cross. | 0:30:29 | 0:30:33 | |
I've seen the image of Jesus and Judas kissing thousands of times | 0:30:36 | 0:30:39 | |
in pictures and in postcards. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:41 | |
But what strikes me again, looking at it now, | 0:30:43 | 0:30:46 | |
is just the intimacy of that moment. | 0:30:46 | 0:30:48 | |
It's so tender, yet so terrible. | 0:30:52 | 0:30:55 | |
The Bible tells us that after The Last Supper, | 0:30:57 | 0:31:00 | |
Jesus and his disciples, without Judas, | 0:31:00 | 0:31:03 | |
walked across the Kidron Valley | 0:31:03 | 0:31:05 | |
to a place called the Garden of Gethsemane | 0:31:05 | 0:31:08 | |
on the Mount of Olives. | 0:31:08 | 0:31:10 | |
It was a place to rest, a place to pray. | 0:31:10 | 0:31:12 | |
"While he was still speaking, | 0:31:15 | 0:31:16 | |
"Judas, one of the twelve, arrived; | 0:31:16 | 0:31:19 | |
"with him was a large crowd | 0:31:19 | 0:31:21 | |
"with swords and clubs, | 0:31:21 | 0:31:23 | |
"from the chief priests and the elders of the people. | 0:31:23 | 0:31:27 | |
"Now the betrayer had given them a sign, | 0:31:27 | 0:31:29 | |
"saying, 'The one I will kiss is the man; arrest him.' " | 0:31:29 | 0:31:33 | |
"At once he came up to Jesus and said, 'Greetings, Rabbi!' | 0:31:34 | 0:31:38 | |
"and kissed him." | 0:31:38 | 0:31:40 | |
The betrayal scenes remain | 0:31:45 | 0:31:47 | |
incredibly constant in how they're shown | 0:31:47 | 0:31:50 | |
through the centuries. | 0:31:50 | 0:31:51 | |
It captures that moment, it's held frozen in these images, | 0:31:51 | 0:31:55 | |
the absolute moment where Christ is betrayed. | 0:31:55 | 0:31:59 | |
We all know, however secular we are, | 0:31:59 | 0:32:01 | |
if we've never set foot in a church, we know what a Judas kiss is. | 0:32:01 | 0:32:05 | |
It is extraordinarily powerful. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:07 | |
The kiss is horrible. | 0:32:07 | 0:32:09 | |
It is indicative of an incredibly close relationship Jesus had | 0:32:09 | 0:32:14 | |
with his close disciples. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:16 | |
They saw each other as brothers and sisters, | 0:32:16 | 0:32:20 | |
they were all one family, | 0:32:20 | 0:32:21 | |
they were doing something that was going to change the world. | 0:32:21 | 0:32:25 | |
And then someone uses that emotion, that...that love, | 0:32:25 | 0:32:32 | |
to come up and do something that is the very opposite, | 0:32:32 | 0:32:36 | |
that is going to lead Jesus to horrific abuse | 0:32:36 | 0:32:41 | |
over the next few hours, and ultimately to crucifixion. | 0:32:41 | 0:32:45 | |
This is where Christians come | 0:32:49 | 0:32:51 | |
to remember the moment of Christ's betrayal. | 0:32:51 | 0:32:54 | |
Here at the foot of the Mount of Olives, | 0:32:55 | 0:32:58 | |
I'm walking in centuries of pilgrims' footsteps. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:01 | |
These are the oldest olive trees in Gethsemane - | 0:33:05 | 0:33:08 | |
maybe even offshoots of the trees that witnessed Christ's arrest. | 0:33:08 | 0:33:13 | |
The pruned branches are cherished mementos. | 0:33:14 | 0:33:18 | |
'I start chatting to British pilgrim Christine, | 0:33:22 | 0:33:25 | |
'and I'm confronted again by the paradox of Judas - | 0:33:25 | 0:33:28 | |
'that he is condemned for an evil act that was necessary.' | 0:33:28 | 0:33:32 | |
I feel quite sorry for Judas, because I feel it was God's plan. | 0:33:32 | 0:33:37 | |
So do you think there is a place for Judas in Heaven? | 0:33:37 | 0:33:39 | |
-I think there is a place for Judas in Heaven. -Do you? -Yes. | 0:33:39 | 0:33:42 | |
I wonder if we can see a bit of ourselves in Judas? | 0:33:42 | 0:33:44 | |
All the time, I do. | 0:33:44 | 0:33:45 | |
-Really? -Yes, yes. | 0:33:45 | 0:33:47 | |
Because I'm on a journey, | 0:33:47 | 0:33:49 | |
and I haven't come to the end of my journey - | 0:33:49 | 0:33:52 | |
I don't mean life, I mean my journey in faith. | 0:33:52 | 0:33:55 | |
-Yeah. -And I know there's a lot that I don't believe | 0:33:55 | 0:33:58 | |
and that I should believe. | 0:33:58 | 0:34:00 | |
-And my faith isn't strong enough. -And so the idea that... | 0:34:00 | 0:34:02 | |
letting Jesus down in the same way that Judas let Jesus down. | 0:34:02 | 0:34:06 | |
-Definitely. -Fascinating. -Yes. | 0:34:06 | 0:34:08 | |
What Christine says is actually something I'd like to believe. | 0:34:11 | 0:34:15 | |
Yet I'm wrestling with that awful truth | 0:34:15 | 0:34:17 | |
of what Judas did. | 0:34:17 | 0:34:20 | |
He didn't just betray a friend, awful though that was. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:24 | |
He betrayed God, who had taken human form | 0:34:24 | 0:34:27 | |
to offer us all hope and salvation. | 0:34:27 | 0:34:29 | |
I'm going to a more secluded part of the garden to have a think. | 0:34:31 | 0:34:34 | |
Jerusalem is a really busy place. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:39 | |
There's car horns and dogs barking and just noise the whole time. | 0:34:39 | 0:34:44 | |
But actually, here, there's a real stillness, | 0:34:44 | 0:34:46 | |
a real oasis. | 0:34:46 | 0:34:48 | |
You can hear the birds singing, and there's a sort of peace. | 0:34:48 | 0:34:52 | |
And it reminds me so much | 0:34:54 | 0:34:55 | |
of the picture I've got in my head of Judas arriving | 0:34:55 | 0:35:00 | |
with all the soldiers and their flaming torches | 0:35:00 | 0:35:02 | |
and swords and all that sort of stuff, | 0:35:02 | 0:35:04 | |
and in the middle of all that, | 0:35:04 | 0:35:07 | |
all that sudden noise and sudden chaos, | 0:35:07 | 0:35:09 | |
there's this moment of absolute intimacy, | 0:35:09 | 0:35:12 | |
this moment of quiet, this moment of stillness | 0:35:12 | 0:35:15 | |
where one friend betrays another one friend. | 0:35:15 | 0:35:20 | |
What made Judas so different from you and me | 0:35:20 | 0:35:22 | |
is that he was actually there | 0:35:22 | 0:35:24 | |
to witness everything that Jesus did during his ministry. | 0:35:24 | 0:35:28 | |
Judas was in that privileged position | 0:35:28 | 0:35:30 | |
where he was actually with Jesus - | 0:35:30 | 0:35:32 | |
he actually ate with him, he walked with him, | 0:35:32 | 0:35:34 | |
he talked with him, he listened to him. | 0:35:34 | 0:35:36 | |
Not only did he betray Jesus, but he also, in a way, | 0:35:36 | 0:35:39 | |
betrayed all the Christians that have come after, | 0:35:39 | 0:35:41 | |
because...he should have made more of it. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:44 | |
He should have seen it for the thing that it was | 0:35:44 | 0:35:46 | |
and how great it was. | 0:35:46 | 0:35:47 | |
And instead, he chucked it all away on a kiss. | 0:35:47 | 0:35:50 | |
Just before we go, here in the trees in Gethsemane, | 0:35:55 | 0:35:59 | |
people write their prayers | 0:35:59 | 0:36:00 | |
and fold them and tuck them into the branches | 0:36:00 | 0:36:03 | |
and the nooks and crannies in the olive trees, | 0:36:03 | 0:36:06 | |
and it's really quite moving, | 0:36:06 | 0:36:08 | |
because just as Jesus prayed for his friends and for his followers, | 0:36:08 | 0:36:12 | |
people are praying for their friends for their family here, too. | 0:36:12 | 0:36:16 | |
That's so lovely. | 0:36:16 | 0:36:18 | |
Before leaving the Mount of Olives, | 0:36:29 | 0:36:31 | |
I went to see a place not visited by many pilgrims, | 0:36:31 | 0:36:34 | |
which I hoped might help explain a question I had | 0:36:34 | 0:36:37 | |
over that kiss in Gethsemane. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:40 | |
Why did the authorities need Judas at all? | 0:36:40 | 0:36:43 | |
The authorities have already decided that they want to arrest Jesus, | 0:36:43 | 0:36:47 | |
but what they really want to do is to make sure | 0:36:47 | 0:36:50 | |
that they do it secretly, somewhere quiet. | 0:36:50 | 0:36:52 | |
Their reason for caution | 0:36:52 | 0:36:54 | |
goes back to the volatile atmosphere in Jerusalem during Passover. | 0:36:54 | 0:36:59 | |
They didn't really want to cause any trouble in the Temple | 0:36:59 | 0:37:03 | |
or where there were lots of crowds. | 0:37:03 | 0:37:05 | |
But, I wondered, why did the authorities need Judas | 0:37:05 | 0:37:09 | |
to identify someone who had drawn so much attention to himself | 0:37:09 | 0:37:12 | |
over the previous week? | 0:37:12 | 0:37:14 | |
I mean, frankly, there wouldn't have been a single person in Jerusalem | 0:37:14 | 0:37:17 | |
that haven't heard about him, if not seen him. | 0:37:17 | 0:37:19 | |
Jesus went around throwing his weight around a bit - | 0:37:19 | 0:37:22 | |
went into the Temple, overturned the tables. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:24 | |
And then he goes off to the Garden of Gethsemane. | 0:37:24 | 0:37:26 | |
And the idea that they needed Judas | 0:37:26 | 0:37:29 | |
to identify Jesus at that moment is laughable. | 0:37:29 | 0:37:32 | |
Of course they would have known who he was. | 0:37:32 | 0:37:34 | |
They would have seen him all around Jerusalem. | 0:37:34 | 0:37:36 | |
He would have been the leader, | 0:37:36 | 0:37:37 | |
and, indeed, John in his Gospel acknowledges that, really, | 0:37:37 | 0:37:41 | |
because in John's Gospel, there is no Judas kiss. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:43 | |
In John's Gospel, Judas arrives | 0:37:43 | 0:37:45 | |
and Jesus says, "Hey, is it me you're looking for?" | 0:37:45 | 0:37:47 | |
and then off he goes. | 0:37:47 | 0:37:48 | |
The Judas kiss is incredibly powerful, | 0:37:48 | 0:37:51 | |
echoes down through the ages, wonderful dramatic gesture - | 0:37:51 | 0:37:54 | |
utterly unnecessary. | 0:37:54 | 0:37:56 | |
Perhaps Jesus wasn't as easy to find as tradition suggests. | 0:37:58 | 0:38:03 | |
A different interpretation of Gethsemane | 0:38:04 | 0:38:06 | |
lends support to that theory. | 0:38:06 | 0:38:08 | |
It puts paid to the idea of a garden | 0:38:08 | 0:38:10 | |
as the setting for the betrayal of Jesus. | 0:38:10 | 0:38:13 | |
Gethsemane means "oil pit", | 0:38:15 | 0:38:19 | |
or "a place of oils" and it seems that it was a place | 0:38:19 | 0:38:23 | |
where they pressed the olive oil | 0:38:23 | 0:38:26 | |
from the olive trees they grew on the Mount of Olives. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:29 | |
Now, if you're looking for a place that fits that description, | 0:38:29 | 0:38:34 | |
it's actually perfect that we have this place called Gethsemane | 0:38:34 | 0:38:39 | |
that is a cave, a kind of pit, a cave pit on the Mount of Olives. | 0:38:39 | 0:38:45 | |
'Archaeologists have discovered evidence here | 0:38:56 | 0:38:58 | |
'of first-century oil presses.' | 0:38:58 | 0:39:00 | |
Wow. | 0:39:00 | 0:39:02 | |
'So could this be the place | 0:39:02 | 0:39:03 | |
'where Jesus and his disciples came that night?' | 0:39:03 | 0:39:06 | |
Jesus is going to a place where he could be safe, | 0:39:07 | 0:39:11 | |
away from everyone. | 0:39:11 | 0:39:13 | |
There would have been a doorway that you would have been able to close, | 0:39:13 | 0:39:17 | |
and he would have been locked away quite secure in the cave. | 0:39:17 | 0:39:22 | |
So Judas' betrayal is all about, | 0:39:23 | 0:39:26 | |
"This is the place - I can show you where Jesus is tonight." | 0:39:26 | 0:39:31 | |
So maybe that's the true horror of Judas' betrayal - | 0:39:31 | 0:39:35 | |
that he led the authorities to a hidden place and let them in. | 0:39:35 | 0:39:40 | |
I can imagine Jesus praying quietly, in a corner, perhaps... | 0:39:40 | 0:39:45 | |
..and then the other 11 disciples were all asleep, snoozing, | 0:39:49 | 0:39:54 | |
and Judas sneaks out, sneaks out into the darkness | 0:39:54 | 0:39:59 | |
and leaves behind him his sleeping friends and his master | 0:39:59 | 0:40:04 | |
to go out and to betray Jesus | 0:40:04 | 0:40:07 | |
and to come back with those authorities. | 0:40:07 | 0:40:09 | |
And I imagine him walking alone through the quiet | 0:40:09 | 0:40:11 | |
and through the dark of the night and the stars | 0:40:11 | 0:40:14 | |
and he's completely alone and he's turned him back on everything - | 0:40:14 | 0:40:18 | |
his friends, his master - and he's walking towards betrayal. | 0:40:18 | 0:40:22 | |
As the full horror of Judas' actions unfold, | 0:40:26 | 0:40:31 | |
Matthew in his Gospel allows Judas one final moment of regret, | 0:40:31 | 0:40:36 | |
and it's the most terrifying part of his story. | 0:40:36 | 0:40:39 | |
"When Judas, his betrayer, saw that Jesus was condemned, | 0:40:39 | 0:40:42 | |
"he repented and brought back | 0:40:42 | 0:40:45 | |
"the 30 pieces of silver to the chief priests and the elders. | 0:40:45 | 0:40:48 | |
"He said, 'I have sinned by betraying innocent blood.' | 0:40:48 | 0:40:54 | |
"But they said, 'What is that to us? See to it yourself.' | 0:40:54 | 0:41:00 | |
"Throwing down the pieces of silver into the temple, he departed, | 0:41:00 | 0:41:04 | |
"and he went and hanged himself." | 0:41:04 | 0:41:07 | |
So he does actually realise what he's done. | 0:41:10 | 0:41:14 | |
He does try to make amends, | 0:41:14 | 0:41:15 | |
and then he goes and he hangs himself. | 0:41:15 | 0:41:18 | |
I mean, was there ever a more lonely and appalling death, really? | 0:41:18 | 0:41:22 | |
It gets you there when you hear it. | 0:41:23 | 0:41:25 | |
Um...you know, there's a lot of despair in the world, | 0:41:25 | 0:41:30 | |
there's a lot of despair in most human lives. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:33 | |
And I don't see that very much elsewhere in the Gospels, | 0:41:33 | 0:41:36 | |
but I see it in that moment. | 0:41:36 | 0:41:37 | |
I'm making my way to Akeldama. | 0:41:45 | 0:41:47 | |
Translated, the name means "field of blood". | 0:41:47 | 0:41:51 | |
And it's here, according to tradition, | 0:41:51 | 0:41:54 | |
that Judas took his own life. | 0:41:54 | 0:41:56 | |
There are no pilgrims here. | 0:41:58 | 0:42:00 | |
This is the Valley of Hinnom - the Valley of Hell. | 0:42:00 | 0:42:05 | |
It's certainly a bleak, barren place - | 0:42:05 | 0:42:08 | |
a dumping ground for the city's rubbish. | 0:42:08 | 0:42:10 | |
Where Judas is said to have died, there's a Greek Orthodox monastery. | 0:42:12 | 0:42:17 | |
It's dedicated to an obscure fourth-century saint, Onuphrius. | 0:42:17 | 0:42:21 | |
There's no acknowledgement of Judas. | 0:42:24 | 0:42:26 | |
On a beautiful day like today, | 0:42:30 | 0:42:32 | |
it's really hard to imagine Judas here at the end of his story, | 0:42:32 | 0:42:36 | |
desolate and alone, taking his own life. | 0:42:36 | 0:42:39 | |
And it makes me wonder, who found him? | 0:42:40 | 0:42:43 | |
Who came across this young man? | 0:42:43 | 0:42:45 | |
Who cut him down from the tree? | 0:42:46 | 0:42:47 | |
Who took his body away? | 0:42:49 | 0:42:50 | |
Who buried him? | 0:42:51 | 0:42:52 | |
Who mourned him? | 0:42:54 | 0:42:55 | |
It feels as if here, his memory is obliterated. | 0:42:57 | 0:43:01 | |
And then, unexpectedly, I find him, inside the monastery chapel. | 0:43:01 | 0:43:06 | |
I love this icon, because what you've got here | 0:43:19 | 0:43:21 | |
is a culmination of the Judas story. | 0:43:21 | 0:43:23 | |
Up here, Judas with the high priest, | 0:43:23 | 0:43:27 | |
taking his bag of money for the dastardly deed. | 0:43:27 | 0:43:30 | |
And across here, in the Garden of Gethsemane, | 0:43:30 | 0:43:33 | |
the soldiers with their flaming torches, | 0:43:33 | 0:43:36 | |
and Judas betraying his friend with a kiss. | 0:43:36 | 0:43:39 | |
Down here, Judas seems to have changed his mind | 0:43:41 | 0:43:44 | |
and he's trying to give back the money. | 0:43:44 | 0:43:46 | |
It lays spilt on the floor. | 0:43:46 | 0:43:48 | |
And of course, over here... | 0:43:50 | 0:43:51 | |
..Judas has taken his own life, hanging from the tree. | 0:43:53 | 0:43:56 | |
His arms behind his back, his eyes closed. | 0:43:58 | 0:44:01 | |
In the moment of his death, he's completely alone. | 0:44:03 | 0:44:05 | |
There's nobody there, nobody with him. | 0:44:05 | 0:44:09 | |
It's just really sad. | 0:44:10 | 0:44:12 | |
Down in the middle, | 0:44:14 | 0:44:16 | |
an angel is offering the cup of Christ, the Communion, | 0:44:16 | 0:44:20 | |
but it's not Judas that's receiving. | 0:44:20 | 0:44:24 | |
He's excluded. | 0:44:25 | 0:44:26 | |
This is St Onuphrius, whose chapel this is. | 0:44:27 | 0:44:30 | |
There's no reconciliation for Judas at all. | 0:44:31 | 0:44:34 | |
On Good Friday, Jesus showed God's love to the world | 0:44:37 | 0:44:40 | |
by laying down his life. | 0:44:40 | 0:44:42 | |
But here, tucked away, in this remote monastery, | 0:44:42 | 0:44:46 | |
I'm confronted by the image of a man, | 0:44:46 | 0:44:48 | |
in the very place where he killed himself, | 0:44:48 | 0:44:51 | |
excluded from sharing in God's love, excluded from redemption. | 0:44:51 | 0:44:56 | |
Can this be true? | 0:44:57 | 0:44:58 | |
For centuries, that is what the Church has taught. | 0:45:01 | 0:45:05 | |
By taking his own life, | 0:45:05 | 0:45:07 | |
Judas was committing an unforgivable sin. | 0:45:07 | 0:45:11 | |
Giving up hope in God. | 0:45:13 | 0:45:15 | |
His sin became, not that he betrayed Jesus, | 0:45:17 | 0:45:21 | |
not that he was greedy for money, but that he despaired at the end. | 0:45:21 | 0:45:25 | |
The idea of despair as a terrible sin, | 0:45:25 | 0:45:28 | |
it was seen as something that is the direct opposite of hope, | 0:45:28 | 0:45:31 | |
which was a Christian virtue. | 0:45:31 | 0:45:33 | |
And despair was defined as not believing in Christ's mercy, | 0:45:33 | 0:45:38 | |
not believing that you could be forgiven for what you had done. | 0:45:38 | 0:45:42 | |
Jesus shows God's love and expresses that | 0:45:42 | 0:45:47 | |
in his laying down his life for others, | 0:45:47 | 0:45:50 | |
but according to Jesus, | 0:45:50 | 0:45:51 | |
that's for those who accept him. | 0:45:51 | 0:45:53 | |
And so for Judas, | 0:45:53 | 0:45:55 | |
as one who rejects Jesus, | 0:45:55 | 0:45:58 | |
he's heading in the wrong direction. | 0:45:58 | 0:46:01 | |
You can be forgiven of anything if you're truly sorry, | 0:46:01 | 0:46:04 | |
if you repent of your sin. | 0:46:04 | 0:46:05 | |
And so even Judas could have been forgiven, | 0:46:05 | 0:46:08 | |
could have made a good end if he hadn't given up hope. | 0:46:08 | 0:46:13 | |
Is this the ultimate meaning of the Judas story? | 0:46:16 | 0:46:19 | |
That because he despaired of God, Judas could not be forgiven? | 0:46:19 | 0:46:24 | |
I'm not prepared to condemn anyone | 0:46:25 | 0:46:27 | |
for taking their own life, and thankfully, | 0:46:27 | 0:46:29 | |
today's Church has a much more enlightened attitude to suicide. | 0:46:29 | 0:46:33 | |
But I do think that it's a complete tragedy | 0:46:33 | 0:46:37 | |
that at the very moment that Christ was dying | 0:46:37 | 0:46:39 | |
and opening the way to Heaven for us all, | 0:46:39 | 0:46:43 | |
Judas believed he was cut off from salvation. | 0:46:43 | 0:46:45 | |
I don't think I'm ready to light a candle for Judas just yet. | 0:46:48 | 0:46:52 | |
But I do think I could light one for everybody I've ever let down... | 0:46:54 | 0:46:58 | |
..and all the people that have let me down. | 0:47:02 | 0:47:05 | |
I think I can light a candle and say a prayer for them. | 0:47:05 | 0:47:08 | |
Before leaving Jerusalem, | 0:47:37 | 0:47:39 | |
there was one last place I needed to go. | 0:47:39 | 0:47:42 | |
It's where the Judas kiss leads us - | 0:47:42 | 0:47:44 | |
the Church of the Holy Sepulchre, the holiest site in Christendom, | 0:47:44 | 0:47:49 | |
said to be built over Calvary, | 0:47:49 | 0:47:52 | |
where Christ was crucified, | 0:47:52 | 0:47:53 | |
and containing the empty tomb where he was buried. | 0:47:53 | 0:47:56 | |
I love all the crosses carved into the pillars. | 0:48:01 | 0:48:04 | |
Generations and generations of pilgrims coming here | 0:48:04 | 0:48:06 | |
and leaving their mark here, and I like that. | 0:48:06 | 0:48:10 | |
This is where the betrayal takes us, to here. | 0:48:10 | 0:48:15 | |
I'm not sure how this is going to feel. | 0:48:17 | 0:48:18 | |
Just inside is the Stone of Unction, | 0:48:25 | 0:48:28 | |
marking the place where many believe | 0:48:28 | 0:48:30 | |
that Christ's body was prepared for burial. | 0:48:30 | 0:48:33 | |
Around me is a chaotic series of altars and shrines. | 0:48:34 | 0:48:38 | |
Each Christian community has its own part of the church | 0:48:38 | 0:48:42 | |
with its own daily services, its own processions. | 0:48:42 | 0:48:46 | |
What really hits me about in here is that there's this massive contrast | 0:48:48 | 0:48:51 | |
between the light of the candles and the shadows that are all around. | 0:48:51 | 0:48:55 | |
And actually, that's at the heart of the story of the crucifixion, | 0:48:57 | 0:49:00 | |
at the heart of Judas' story. | 0:49:00 | 0:49:03 | |
Even though Judas was in the presence | 0:49:03 | 0:49:05 | |
of the light of the world, | 0:49:05 | 0:49:07 | |
he just couldn't step into that light, | 0:49:07 | 0:49:11 | |
and he went into the shadows, he went into the darkness. | 0:49:11 | 0:49:14 | |
It brings home to me my growing frustration with Judas, | 0:49:17 | 0:49:20 | |
that although I feel sympathy and compassion for him | 0:49:20 | 0:49:23 | |
in his final moments, | 0:49:23 | 0:49:25 | |
I find it unbelievable that he closed his mind | 0:49:25 | 0:49:28 | |
to what was right in front of him - | 0:49:28 | 0:49:30 | |
that Jesus offers hope and salvation to everyone, | 0:49:30 | 0:49:34 | |
no matter what we may have done. | 0:49:34 | 0:49:37 | |
So I just feel really disappointed. | 0:49:37 | 0:49:39 | |
I mean, disappointment is a ridiculously small word | 0:49:39 | 0:49:43 | |
to describe how I feel about Judas, | 0:49:43 | 0:49:47 | |
because disappointment is something that you do, | 0:49:47 | 0:49:49 | |
you know, if you don't quite get what you want for your birthday | 0:49:49 | 0:49:52 | |
or, you know, that cake you were baking | 0:49:52 | 0:49:56 | |
didn't quite turn out how you wanted it to. It's just... | 0:49:56 | 0:49:59 | |
Oh... | 0:50:00 | 0:50:02 | |
I'm angry, but I'm not angry. | 0:50:02 | 0:50:05 | |
I'm angry at Judas for not realising, | 0:50:05 | 0:50:07 | |
for not realising that even he wasn't beyond redemption. | 0:50:07 | 0:50:10 | |
Even he wasn't...beyond the words of forgiveness. | 0:50:10 | 0:50:16 | |
If Jesus could forgive those people | 0:50:16 | 0:50:18 | |
that were actually putting the nails in his hands, | 0:50:18 | 0:50:20 | |
then he could have forgiven his friend. | 0:50:20 | 0:50:23 | |
And I don't think Judas realised that. | 0:50:23 | 0:50:26 | |
And that is really sad. | 0:50:26 | 0:50:27 | |
It makes me think - how many others have followed in Judas' footsteps? | 0:50:30 | 0:50:34 | |
Who, when they've heard the Christian story, | 0:50:34 | 0:50:37 | |
think forgiveness isn't for them, | 0:50:37 | 0:50:39 | |
that God couldn't possibly love them? | 0:50:39 | 0:50:41 | |
I think it's time to go home. | 0:50:43 | 0:50:45 | |
I'm back from Jerusalem, | 0:50:54 | 0:50:56 | |
having seen the events leading up to Good Friday through fresh eyes. | 0:50:56 | 0:51:01 | |
In a rollercoaster of emotion, | 0:51:05 | 0:51:08 | |
I've gone from sympathy to sadness to incomprehension and frustration. | 0:51:08 | 0:51:13 | |
Yet the question I still think about | 0:51:13 | 0:51:16 | |
is whether perhaps there might, after all, | 0:51:16 | 0:51:18 | |
be some room for forgiveness in the Judas story. | 0:51:18 | 0:51:21 | |
'I'm meeting with art historian Janet Robson | 0:51:25 | 0:51:27 | |
'to see how the Church has dealt | 0:51:27 | 0:51:29 | |
'with this question down the centuries.' | 0:51:29 | 0:51:31 | |
-Wow! Look at all these! -Yes. | 0:51:31 | 0:51:33 | |
So in terms of these amazing, powerful images | 0:51:33 | 0:51:35 | |
that the medieval Church has given us, | 0:51:35 | 0:51:37 | |
what are they trying to teach me, the observer? | 0:51:37 | 0:51:40 | |
What are they saying to me about Judas? Are they saying, | 0:51:40 | 0:51:42 | |
"Be careful, otherwise you could go the same way"? | 0:51:42 | 0:51:45 | |
What's the message? | 0:51:45 | 0:51:46 | |
I think some of earlier images are very much saying, | 0:51:46 | 0:51:49 | |
"Look at him, he's damned," and it's a rather... | 0:51:49 | 0:51:53 | |
It's not a very subtle kind of message. | 0:51:53 | 0:51:55 | |
-It's, you know, associating him with the Devil, particularly. -Mm. | 0:51:55 | 0:51:59 | |
But when we start getting to the period | 0:51:59 | 0:52:01 | |
of really high interest in Judas, from the 13th century onwards, | 0:52:01 | 0:52:05 | |
things really change. | 0:52:05 | 0:52:07 | |
So from the 13th century, there's a great shift | 0:52:07 | 0:52:09 | |
from the kind of feudal, agrarian society to capitalism. | 0:52:09 | 0:52:13 | |
Suddenly, avarice is thought to be the worst sin of all, | 0:52:13 | 0:52:16 | |
-the idea that sort of...money is the root of all evil. -Right. | 0:52:16 | 0:52:19 | |
And Judas becomes the carrier of all that? | 0:52:19 | 0:52:22 | |
Yeah, he's the real poster boy for evil avarice | 0:52:22 | 0:52:25 | |
and you can see how they play on that in images like this. | 0:52:25 | 0:52:29 | |
That's where his eyes are looking, | 0:52:29 | 0:52:30 | |
his eyes are going straight down to the money. | 0:52:30 | 0:52:32 | |
Yeah, he's looking... | 0:52:32 | 0:52:34 | |
He's absolutely intent on the coins as they're being counted out. | 0:52:34 | 0:52:38 | |
You know, it's all about the money. The interesting thing is | 0:52:38 | 0:52:40 | |
it hasn't really changed to now, this is very contemporary. | 0:52:40 | 0:52:43 | |
We still have these issues. | 0:52:43 | 0:52:45 | |
So is there no redemption for Judas at all? | 0:52:45 | 0:52:49 | |
-Let me show you this image. -Mm-hmm. | 0:52:49 | 0:52:51 | |
So this is from an illustrated Bible and this is English, | 0:52:51 | 0:52:56 | |
this was from the early 14th century | 0:52:56 | 0:52:58 | |
and this is him trying to give the money back. | 0:52:58 | 0:53:02 | |
Now look at him here! | 0:53:02 | 0:53:05 | |
-He's looking away, isn't he? -He's looking away. | 0:53:05 | 0:53:07 | |
-He's got his hand up to his face. -Yes. | 0:53:07 | 0:53:09 | |
He's quite stricken, sort of...genuinely suffering. | 0:53:09 | 0:53:13 | |
In the late medieval period onwards, | 0:53:13 | 0:53:16 | |
this isn't really the kind of images they want to put forward of Judas | 0:53:16 | 0:53:19 | |
because, you know, he looks quite sympathetic. | 0:53:19 | 0:53:21 | |
-Mm. -And so this... this scene is dropped, | 0:53:21 | 0:53:25 | |
-so it's quite unusual even to see this scene being shown at all. -Wow! | 0:53:25 | 0:53:28 | |
Do you feel sorry for Judas? | 0:53:28 | 0:53:30 | |
I do, in the end. | 0:53:30 | 0:53:32 | |
Because the Church wants to use Judas | 0:53:32 | 0:53:35 | |
to get those messages across - | 0:53:35 | 0:53:37 | |
he's forever suffering and dying and being punished. | 0:53:37 | 0:53:41 | |
-Such a powerful picture. -Yeah. | 0:53:41 | 0:53:44 | |
So Judas became the ultimate cautionary tale, | 0:53:49 | 0:53:53 | |
a kicking boy for the concerns of the Church and of wider society. | 0:53:53 | 0:53:57 | |
And for that reason, he couldn't be shown mercy. | 0:53:57 | 0:54:00 | |
But this image of Judas, | 0:54:02 | 0:54:03 | |
the figure beyond God's love, troubles me. | 0:54:03 | 0:54:06 | |
I preach that God loves us all, that no-one will be turned away. | 0:54:06 | 0:54:10 | |
Surely that means Judas, too. | 0:54:12 | 0:54:13 | |
It's in search of that possibility of salvation | 0:54:17 | 0:54:20 | |
that I've travelled to the village of Moreton in Dorset. | 0:54:20 | 0:54:24 | |
In 1940, the little 18th-century church | 0:54:25 | 0:54:29 | |
of St Nicholas and St Magnus was hit by a German bomb | 0:54:29 | 0:54:33 | |
which destroyed its stained glass. | 0:54:33 | 0:54:35 | |
It took one decade to rebuild the church | 0:54:35 | 0:54:38 | |
and another three to replace its windows | 0:54:38 | 0:54:40 | |
with these breathtaking panels of engraved glass by Laurence Whistler. | 0:54:40 | 0:54:45 | |
Light and darkness is the theme which brings them together. | 0:54:50 | 0:54:54 | |
After completing 12 windows, | 0:55:03 | 0:55:05 | |
Whistler offered one last 13th panel as a gift to the church, | 0:55:05 | 0:55:11 | |
but its subject was so shocking | 0:55:11 | 0:55:13 | |
that 30 years passed before it was installed in 2014. | 0:55:13 | 0:55:17 | |
Whistler's gift was a depiction of Judas unlike any other. | 0:55:25 | 0:55:30 | |
There he is. | 0:55:36 | 0:55:38 | |
Wow. | 0:55:38 | 0:55:41 | |
You sort of have to move around | 0:55:43 | 0:55:45 | |
to try and get the light to hit the window right | 0:55:45 | 0:55:47 | |
so that you can make out the detail. | 0:55:47 | 0:55:49 | |
One minute, he's in the darkness, | 0:55:52 | 0:55:53 | |
and the next minute, he's in the light. | 0:55:53 | 0:55:55 | |
The reason it's so hard to see | 0:55:58 | 0:55:59 | |
is because it isn't actually a window at all. | 0:55:59 | 0:56:02 | |
Behind the glass is a wall, | 0:56:04 | 0:56:06 | |
which means that the engraving can only be seen | 0:56:06 | 0:56:08 | |
from outside the church. | 0:56:08 | 0:56:11 | |
Even now, Judas is excluded, | 0:56:11 | 0:56:15 | |
with his face turned away from us. | 0:56:15 | 0:56:18 | |
And yet what makes this panel so unique | 0:56:18 | 0:56:22 | |
is its other overriding message. | 0:56:22 | 0:56:24 | |
In many ways, this picture of Judas | 0:56:26 | 0:56:28 | |
is very like the medieval pictures we see of Judas hanging, | 0:56:28 | 0:56:31 | |
of him taking his own life, but there are some real differences, | 0:56:31 | 0:56:35 | |
and it's those differences that I especially love. | 0:56:35 | 0:56:37 | |
So for example, in his hand, | 0:56:37 | 0:56:39 | |
the coins that he's been given are falling, | 0:56:39 | 0:56:42 | |
and as they fall, they turn into flowers, | 0:56:42 | 0:56:45 | |
and there's exactly 30. | 0:56:45 | 0:56:47 | |
And Judas is looking up toward the light, | 0:56:47 | 0:56:51 | |
which is shining on him. | 0:56:51 | 0:56:53 | |
Whistler called it The Forgiveness Window, | 0:56:58 | 0:57:01 | |
and everything about it suggests | 0:57:01 | 0:57:03 | |
that at the moment of death, | 0:57:03 | 0:57:05 | |
maybe Judas did recognise God's love | 0:57:05 | 0:57:08 | |
and was forgiven. | 0:57:08 | 0:57:10 | |
It really is a rather beautiful, beautiful thing. | 0:57:10 | 0:57:13 | |
Here, I've had the opportunity | 0:57:24 | 0:57:26 | |
to pull apart and reassemble my thoughts, | 0:57:26 | 0:57:29 | |
and at the end of my journey in the footsteps of Judas, | 0:57:29 | 0:57:33 | |
I've discovered a figure beyond the cardboard cut-out | 0:57:33 | 0:57:36 | |
that history has created. | 0:57:36 | 0:57:37 | |
Judas is the character in there who, in a way, | 0:57:39 | 0:57:43 | |
feels the most human, feels the most like us. | 0:57:43 | 0:57:46 | |
If you look Judas in the eye, | 0:57:46 | 0:57:48 | |
you're sort of looking yourself in the eye a little bit. | 0:57:48 | 0:57:51 | |
Judas is rather like an image of the human condition | 0:57:51 | 0:57:55 | |
in which we human beings get things badly wrong. | 0:57:55 | 0:57:57 | |
And I, for one, | 0:57:57 | 0:58:00 | |
think leaving the possibility of salvation there for Judas | 0:58:00 | 0:58:04 | |
is rather important, | 0:58:04 | 0:58:06 | |
because it means the possibility of salvation is there for all of us. | 0:58:06 | 0:58:09 | |
I'm left with a picture of a real man | 0:58:10 | 0:58:13 | |
with shortcomings and failings not that different from my own. | 0:58:13 | 0:58:17 | |
If only Judas could have heard | 0:58:19 | 0:58:20 | |
those words that Jesus said from the cross - | 0:58:20 | 0:58:24 | |
"Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do." | 0:58:24 | 0:58:27 | |
There's no reason to think | 0:58:29 | 0:58:31 | |
that those words don't extend to Judas, too. | 0:58:31 | 0:58:35 |