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Every three years, they used to come for the very best, | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
the rugby opportunity of a lifetime. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:08 | |
All sportsmen wanted to go and play against the best in the world. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:15 | |
You've got to take the one chance. You'll never forgive yourself. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:19 | |
It was our Olympics. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:21 | |
But the land of opportunity was South Africa, | 0:00:21 | 0:00:24 | |
the most violently racist country on earth. | 0:00:24 | 0:00:27 | |
I don't know if it was my naivety. | 0:00:27 | 0:00:30 | |
I didn't know about Nelson Mandela. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:33 | |
Didn't know much about apartheid. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:34 | |
Did we really know the truth? Were we fully aware of what was going on? | 0:00:34 | 0:00:38 | |
They were effectively collaborating with the worst racial tyranny that the world has ever seen | 0:00:40 | 0:00:45 | |
and infected rugby. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:47 | |
This was the tour that was more than a tour. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:51 | |
They would be heroes, but not at first. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:55 | |
Cast as villains, the Lions fought on for themselves | 0:00:55 | 0:00:58 | |
and for others. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:01 | |
We were sick and tired of being beaten up. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:03 | |
There was a euphoric feeling of almost them going into battle for you. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:07 | |
It was more than a result, it was a statement. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:10 | |
They played hard, they partied even more ferociously. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:13 | |
This is the story of the extraordinary tour of '74 when the Lions roared. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:20 | |
What they succeeded in doing was destroying the mud | 0:01:20 | 0:01:24 | |
of the infallibility of the Springboks | 0:01:24 | 0:01:28 | |
and the infallibility of white supremacy. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:33 | |
South Africa in the 1970s, | 0:01:40 | 0:01:42 | |
where racial segregation was enshrined in law. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:46 | |
Apartheid - separate development, | 0:01:46 | 0:01:48 | |
or in other words, the preservation of white minority rule by any means. | 0:01:48 | 0:01:53 | |
The outside world had long protested against apartheid. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:59 | |
Sports teams were urged to stay away, including the Lions. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:03 | |
Still amateur then, but the best players from England, Ireland, Scotland and Wales. | 0:02:03 | 0:02:08 | |
I lived about a mile from where I was born | 0:02:09 | 0:02:12 | |
in the main street in Felinfoel, | 0:02:12 | 0:02:15 | |
a small village about two miles outside Llanelli. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:17 | |
Your family obviously came first | 0:02:17 | 0:02:19 | |
and to be quite honest, rugby was a big second. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:23 | |
I was involved predominantly in sales and marketing. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:26 | |
We were relatively young people. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:28 | |
You trained on Mondays and Thursdays | 0:02:28 | 0:02:31 | |
predominantly with your club | 0:02:31 | 0:02:33 | |
and then for good measure, you trained with Wales, your national side, on the weekend. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:37 | |
I think I'd had six caps and I was just getting onto the stage, really, | 0:02:37 | 0:02:41 | |
but I'd also become head of a PE department | 0:02:41 | 0:02:45 | |
in a state comprehensive. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:46 | |
In the Lions squad of 30, there were 8 Welsh players. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:51 | |
As usual, at the cutting edge of innovation. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:54 | |
I remember training in the school fields in a wetsuit. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:58 | |
It was the month of April, it was pretty cool, | 0:02:58 | 0:03:03 | |
and I was just trying to experience the hot weather training. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:06 | |
It was a goal we all set - although we kept at the back of our minds - | 0:03:06 | 0:03:10 | |
that we could be on one of the most famous trips of all time. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:13 | |
It was going to be an experience of a lifetime. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:15 | |
There was no World Cup in those days. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:17 | |
To go on the Lions tour was the be all and end all for a Welsh rugby player. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:21 | |
The way to combat racialism is to persuade people that it's wrong. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:29 | |
Leading the protest against apartheid, and now the Lions, | 0:03:31 | 0:03:35 | |
was a South African student who had fled his homeland, | 0:03:35 | 0:03:38 | |
Peter Hain. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:40 | |
The frustrating thing about it | 0:03:40 | 0:03:43 | |
was that we'd been able to stop tours coming to Britain | 0:03:43 | 0:03:45 | |
because our direct action tactics of interrupting rugby matches were working. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:52 | |
But what we couldn't do is effectively use the same tactics | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
to stop a team going. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:57 | |
I was receiving letters from MPs saying, "You mustn't go on this trip." | 0:03:57 | 0:04:02 | |
They were stating their reasons, you'd read through, | 0:04:02 | 0:04:05 | |
and the word apartheid came in all the time. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:08 | |
My advice to them would be that it's rather unwise for them to go. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:12 | |
I don't think it was easy. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:14 | |
I don't want people to think that we were selfish in so much | 0:04:14 | 0:04:18 | |
that we never thought about anything else. We gave it a great deal of thought. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:21 | |
We talked it round as a family | 0:04:21 | 0:04:23 | |
and I said, "What do you think?" | 0:04:23 | 0:04:26 | |
And I talked it round with close friends who'd been on trips | 0:04:26 | 0:04:30 | |
and they said, "You've got to take the chance. You'll never forgive yourself if you don't go." | 0:04:30 | 0:04:34 | |
I didn't know anything about it, I wanted to experience it, | 0:04:34 | 0:04:37 | |
I wanted to become a British Lion | 0:04:37 | 0:04:39 | |
and that's all I was focusing in on and nothing else. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:42 | |
In South Africa, to begin with, things were very clear. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:47 | |
In simple black and white. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:49 | |
80% of the population were against the tour. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:53 | |
We found it unconscionable | 0:04:53 | 0:04:56 | |
to think that a British Lion team | 0:04:56 | 0:04:58 | |
would come to South Africa | 0:04:58 | 0:05:01 | |
while South Africa was on the brink | 0:05:01 | 0:05:04 | |
of extreme violence. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:08 | |
I didn't really look forward to the British Lions | 0:05:08 | 0:05:11 | |
actually coming here because we believed, | 0:05:11 | 0:05:13 | |
as did a lot of South Africans, | 0:05:13 | 0:05:16 | |
that rugby as a sport was the bastion of the oppressor, | 0:05:16 | 0:05:20 | |
the bastion of the apartheid regime. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:22 | |
So many of our people had died in the struggle | 0:05:22 | 0:05:25 | |
that it was indeed insensitive | 0:05:25 | 0:05:29 | |
to play upon the graves of people who had died. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:33 | |
Some players had opted not to go on the tour of 1974. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:38 | |
I had been on the '68 Lions tour | 0:05:40 | 0:05:43 | |
and I kidded myself that we weren't supporting apartheid. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:48 | |
I took on board all the sort of, "We were building bridges." | 0:05:48 | 0:05:51 | |
It was nonsense. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:53 | |
As soon as I got there, I realised it was a mistake. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:57 | |
You'd see black people being kicked around, knocked around. | 0:05:57 | 0:06:00 | |
You saw the fact of white buses and black buses. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:04 | |
You saw people not allowed to walk on the pavements, even. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:07 | |
It was a very weird society. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:09 | |
For the Welsh players who were going on tour, | 0:06:11 | 0:06:13 | |
the long journey was about to begin. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:15 | |
Destination - South Africa, starting point - closer to home. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:20 | |
We met at Bridgend railway station, everyone looking at us. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
We were all packed up with our bags. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:25 | |
And then get on the train up to London. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:28 | |
That's what Gareth said to me, he said, "This is the place where you can shine. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:32 | |
"You're going to a country where there are superb rugby connections. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:35 | |
"If you're gonna play rugby anywhere, it's gonna be South Africa." | 0:06:35 | 0:06:39 | |
Phil Bennett headed for London by car, | 0:06:39 | 0:06:41 | |
stopping on the way to pick up steelworker and Pontypool hooker Bobby Windsor. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:46 | |
I picked Bobby up | 0:06:46 | 0:06:48 | |
and he was a real character. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:50 | |
He couldn't wait to get to London, get stuck into training, | 0:06:50 | 0:06:53 | |
and to try his new kit on. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:55 | |
I remember as we were driving into a certain part of London, | 0:06:55 | 0:06:58 | |
we were met by, it seemed, thousands of demonstrators with placards. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
They weren't saying very nice things on these placards. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:05 | |
They were throwing things at the car and everything. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:08 | |
It was pandemonium there, really. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:10 | |
We were virtually under house arrest in London because of the demonstrators. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:15 | |
We were confined to our hotel for two or three days. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:18 | |
We had a few functions to go to, but not too much, | 0:07:18 | 0:07:20 | |
because of the political issues. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:22 | |
Outside the hotel, Peter Hain waited to hand over a petition | 0:07:22 | 0:07:27 | |
to Lions captain Willie John McBride. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:29 | |
It was like talking to somebody who was deaf. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:33 | |
It was as if our conversation never met. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:37 | |
I just said to him, "Well, you know, I... | 0:07:37 | 0:07:40 | |
"..understand that you disagree with us, | 0:07:41 | 0:07:45 | |
"but we differ on that. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:46 | |
"I will take this petition and I will talk to the players. That's the best I can do." | 0:07:46 | 0:07:50 | |
He just said he was going to play rugby. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:52 | |
We were saying, I was saying, | 0:07:52 | 0:07:54 | |
"The consequences of you doing that | 0:07:54 | 0:07:56 | |
"will keep Nelson Mandela in prison for longer, | 0:07:56 | 0:08:00 | |
"will keep apartheid oppression for longer | 0:08:00 | 0:08:04 | |
"and will maintain racist rugby in South Africa for longer. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:08 | |
"This is unacceptable." | 0:08:08 | 0:08:10 | |
Under siege in their hotel, it was final decision time. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:16 | |
Willie John had asked us, "Do you want to come on this tour? | 0:08:16 | 0:08:19 | |
"If you don't, I'll think no less of you. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:21 | |
"There's the door. On your way." | 0:08:21 | 0:08:23 | |
I respect anybody's view, but I said, | 0:08:23 | 0:08:26 | |
"If anyone in the room feels that they have made the wrong decision, | 0:08:26 | 0:08:30 | |
"the door is open." | 0:08:30 | 0:08:31 | |
It did prick at my conscience at the time. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:34 | |
Were we doing the right thing? Did we really know the truth? | 0:08:34 | 0:08:37 | |
Were we fully aware of what was going on? | 0:08:37 | 0:08:40 | |
-'Racist rugby... -We can't bury our heads in the sand, I feel. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:44 | |
'The way to combat racialism is to persuade people that it's wrong.' | 0:08:44 | 0:08:49 | |
It was amazing because you'd have heard a pin drop in that room. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:54 | |
"There's no turning back. You can't say in two weeks, | 0:08:54 | 0:08:57 | |
"'I'm off home.' We've got to be 100% committed to the cause.'" | 0:08:57 | 0:09:01 | |
I knew from that moment on we had 30 men | 0:09:01 | 0:09:04 | |
that were going out there and we were going to be together. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:08 | |
May 7th, 1974. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:12 | |
The Lions landed in Johannesburg. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:15 | |
Disowned by Harold Wilson's government, | 0:09:15 | 0:09:18 | |
snubbed by the embassy, | 0:09:18 | 0:09:20 | |
underrated by their rugby opponents, | 0:09:20 | 0:09:22 | |
the Lions were on their own. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:25 | |
Ahead of them lay three-and-a-half months of rugby. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:28 | |
22 matches. That's more than double the number the Lions of 2009 will play. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:34 | |
18 games for provincial players to soften up the Lions. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
Four test matches in Cape Town, | 0:09:39 | 0:09:42 | |
Pretoria, Port Elizabeth, and Johannesburg | 0:09:42 | 0:09:46 | |
for the South African Springboks to destroy them. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:49 | |
No Lions team had won a test series in South Africa | 0:09:53 | 0:09:57 | |
for 78 years. | 0:09:57 | 0:09:59 | |
In all those years, they had been coming here on tour and losing. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:04 | |
Beaten and beaten up. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:08 | |
To take on South Africa now, a new battle plan was drawn up. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:12 | |
The 99. It involved the forwards naturally, | 0:10:12 | 0:10:15 | |
but was also embraced by a young doctor at full back. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:18 | |
If the 99 was called, | 0:10:18 | 0:10:20 | |
you'd hit the nearest one to you, | 0:10:20 | 0:10:22 | |
the premise behind this being that not everyone could get sent off. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:27 | |
The whole attitude was if there's trouble, | 0:10:27 | 0:10:30 | |
everyone pile in. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:32 | |
No-one steps back. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:33 | |
I wasn't going to pile in. Me and Phil Bennett and Andy Irvine, | 0:10:33 | 0:10:37 | |
12 stone little weaklings, | 0:10:37 | 0:10:39 | |
we're not going to step in, but it was the forwards and JPR. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:42 | |
The 99, not as frequently used as legend would have it, | 0:10:42 | 0:10:47 | |
but used. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:49 | |
Between the outbursts of fighting, there was good rugby, | 0:10:49 | 0:10:52 | |
lots of it. Excellent rugby. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:54 | |
The Lions won their first six games. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:56 | |
'Billy Steele coming inside!' | 0:10:56 | 0:11:01 | |
Huge crowds came to sit and watch the games. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:05 | |
Huge white crowds. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:06 | |
But black supporters came, too, | 0:11:06 | 0:11:08 | |
to be segregated and put in cages. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:11 | |
To be confined to a particular little area | 0:11:11 | 0:11:14 | |
that was reserved for non-Europeans exclusively | 0:11:14 | 0:11:18 | |
was an absolute insult. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:20 | |
When the Lions played Western Province, | 0:11:22 | 0:11:24 | |
an impressionable 15-year-old was among the black fans. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:27 | |
It was just great to be close to the players, | 0:11:29 | 0:11:32 | |
the players that you admired then, | 0:11:32 | 0:11:34 | |
but there was a fence between you and the players. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:39 | |
You couldn't go there to touch them, | 0:11:39 | 0:11:41 | |
and that was the main idea - to touch them and get some inspiration from them. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:45 | |
The 1st Test was approaching. The Lions were still unbeaten. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:49 | |
Next, a game against a team called the Proteas. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:52 | |
Now they were dipping their toes in gesture politics. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:56 | |
'A great moment of history in the game of rugby football. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:05 | |
'The first meeting between the British Lions and a non-white team.' | 0:12:05 | 0:12:09 | |
What was everybody saying? It's a token game, etc. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:14 | |
We were talking to the black players we played against | 0:12:14 | 0:12:17 | |
after the game having a beer. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:19 | |
That was the most important thing of their life. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:23 | |
'Roy Bergiers... Bergiers.' | 0:12:23 | 0:12:25 | |
Sure enough the Lions won the game easily, | 0:12:25 | 0:12:29 | |
but was this such a token fixture, a hollow victory? | 0:12:29 | 0:12:32 | |
Not for the captain of the Proteas. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:35 | |
It was important for me to show the quality of my people | 0:12:35 | 0:12:38 | |
because, you must remember, | 0:12:38 | 0:12:40 | |
some of the groupings of the then governing group | 0:12:40 | 0:12:43 | |
told the world that non-whites and blacks don't play rugby, which was nonsense. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:48 | |
It was another chip away from the old apartheid block. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:51 | |
Playing against white people, so to say, | 0:12:51 | 0:12:54 | |
we were showing the local white people who didn't want that | 0:12:54 | 0:12:58 | |
that this is the way the world is | 0:12:58 | 0:13:00 | |
and you must adapt or you will die. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:03 | |
After the game and during the course of their visit here in Cape Town, | 0:13:03 | 0:13:08 | |
I spoke to Willie John and Fergus and I said to them, | 0:13:08 | 0:13:10 | |
"Guys, what are you going to do to the Springboks?" | 0:13:10 | 0:13:13 | |
Willie said, "We're gonna destroy them." | 0:13:13 | 0:13:16 | |
I was happy about that because it was important for us that they be beaten. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:19 | |
Saturday, June 1st. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:23 | |
The 1st Test at Newlands Stadium in Cape Town. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:25 | |
The Lions, unbeaten, against the Springboks, hungry. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:30 | |
We were starved of international rugby | 0:13:30 | 0:13:33 | |
so any opportunity for us | 0:13:33 | 0:13:35 | |
to test our strength | 0:13:35 | 0:13:40 | |
against a world-class opposition | 0:13:40 | 0:13:42 | |
obviously would be met with enthusiasm. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:45 | |
Going out at Newlands was the biggest sound I've ever heard. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:58 | |
You had so little support. You felt that the whole nation was against you. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:04 | |
They'd had a downpour for a week in Cape Town beforehand. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:10 | |
I thought, "This could be anywhere in Wales in the middle of our season." | 0:14:11 | 0:14:15 | |
A massive Springbok pack would surely revel in the conditions. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:20 | |
Instead, South Africa were ill-disciplined. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:25 | |
The penalty points mounted for the Lions | 0:14:25 | 0:14:29 | |
and there was an even more telling point about to be made. | 0:14:29 | 0:14:32 | |
There was one scrum in particular | 0:14:32 | 0:14:35 | |
where we were somewhere between our 22 and 10 metre in our own half | 0:14:35 | 0:14:39 | |
and the boys went low into a drive position | 0:14:39 | 0:14:41 | |
and they drove the Springboks back half a yard, a yard, | 0:14:41 | 0:14:46 | |
three yards. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:47 | |
And I could sense the pack getting up and saying, "We've got this!" | 0:14:48 | 0:14:53 | |
It was the first time in Springbok rugby history | 0:14:53 | 0:14:58 | |
where we were confronted by perhaps a physically... more powerful physical pack. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:03 | |
And that was an eye-opener for us. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:07 | |
COMMENTATOR: 'Edwards looks for the long drop at goal. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:10 | |
'He struck it beautifully, and it sails through! | 0:15:10 | 0:15:13 | |
'The Lions leap in the air! | 0:15:13 | 0:15:15 | |
'Their joy unbounded, and rightly so. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:18 | |
'Phil Bennett...tired but delighted.' | 0:15:20 | 0:15:23 | |
Oh, what a feeling! They were not used to losing in their own back yard. | 0:15:23 | 0:15:27 | |
First blood to the Lions, first ring of the alarm bell. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:34 | |
We were under the illusion, perhaps, that we had stayed up with the rest of the world. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:39 | |
Um, we had been out of international rugby, the Test arena, for a few years, | 0:15:39 | 0:15:44 | |
and it really showed. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:46 | |
The Lions celebrated. If their rugby was impressive, | 0:15:48 | 0:15:51 | |
their partying was legendary. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:53 | |
Yes, there were some wild parties, wild nights, | 0:15:53 | 0:15:56 | |
and it was vitally important. There was three-and-a-half months away from family and friends. | 0:15:56 | 0:16:01 | |
On they went, every game a cause for further celebration. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:06 | |
'Bennett switches to Milliken, Milliken still going. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:09 | |
'Milliken to JPR Williams. This time it's a try! | 0:16:09 | 0:16:13 | |
'Milliken is going over... | 0:16:13 | 0:16:16 | |
'And he's scored!' | 0:16:16 | 0:16:18 | |
Not only were we a very good side, we were mentally and physically very strong. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:23 | |
They had no answer to it. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:25 | |
'Tony Neary going for the corner! A dramatic last-second try!' | 0:16:25 | 0:16:29 | |
Everybody was treated the same. There was 30 players | 0:16:29 | 0:16:33 | |
who respected each other, who would die for each other. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:35 | |
The Lions win three more matches, to make it 11 out of 11, | 0:16:35 | 0:16:40 | |
going into the 2nd Test, at altitude, in Pretoria. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:44 | |
Loftus Versfeld, the Afrikaners' heartland, | 0:16:44 | 0:16:47 | |
where something had shifted. The Lions were no longer on their own. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:51 | |
Black rugby followers, who had wanted the tourists to stay away, | 0:16:51 | 0:16:54 | |
were now cheering them on. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:56 | |
When a pattern started emerging, that this particular group of tourists | 0:16:56 | 0:17:02 | |
would be invincible, | 0:17:02 | 0:17:04 | |
that excited us. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:06 | |
We knew the reason that they were not supporting us | 0:17:06 | 0:17:09 | |
because we were part of a system that...was against them. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:14 | |
'Edwards... | 0:17:19 | 0:17:21 | |
'rolling for JJ Williams... | 0:17:21 | 0:17:23 | |
'Williams kicks it on! This could be a try! Williams has scored!' | 0:17:23 | 0:17:28 | |
Any defeat inflicted upon white South Africa | 0:17:28 | 0:17:31 | |
was a source of joy and delight to non-whites. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
'JJ Williams, where has he come from? Williams...a yard to go! | 0:17:38 | 0:17:42 | |
'And he's scored! | 0:17:42 | 0:17:45 | |
'Slattery...to Phil Bennett.' | 0:17:49 | 0:17:52 | |
The ball comes to me, with about 50 or 60 metres to go. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:56 | |
-'Look at that acceleration!' -I'm coming up to the full back | 0:17:56 | 0:17:59 | |
-on the outside. -I think his stud caught Phil's instep. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:03 | |
I feel this incredible pain in my ankle. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
'What a solo effort! Phil Bennett!' | 0:18:06 | 0:18:08 | |
Two men came across cos they'd seen me go down, | 0:18:08 | 0:18:11 | |
and one of them was Willie John McBride. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:14 | |
He said, "Phil, are you OK?" "No, not really." He said, "I need you." | 0:18:14 | 0:18:19 | |
I don't care how painful it is, you can't go off. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:21 | |
He looked down, and blood was pumping everywhere. He says, "Bejesus, it's only a scratch." | 0:18:21 | 0:18:26 | |
Phil Bennett stayed on, cut and battered, | 0:18:27 | 0:18:30 | |
but more than playing his part in the Lions' victory - | 0:18:30 | 0:18:34 | |
more than a victory. 28-9. They had crushed the Springboks. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:38 | |
The results and the importance of beating the Springboks | 0:18:38 | 0:18:42 | |
was making world headlines. And you couldn't help but talk about the rugby | 0:18:42 | 0:18:47 | |
and the implications of it all. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:49 | |
For them to lose at rugby | 0:18:49 | 0:18:52 | |
was almost identical to them losing part of their culture | 0:18:52 | 0:18:56 | |
or part of their superior status or part of their very essence. | 0:18:56 | 0:19:02 | |
The Lions were off for some culture of their own - | 0:19:03 | 0:19:07 | |
five days in Kruger Park game reserve. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:10 | |
Five days of rest and recuperation - | 0:19:10 | 0:19:13 | |
something like that. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:15 | |
We were 2-0 up in the series, we'd gone to Kruger Park - come on, give us a break! | 0:19:15 | 0:19:19 | |
Willie John put Phil on his back, and started running through the bush. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:27 | |
The rangers thought we were mad. They said, "We often have leopards and lions coming to the camp." | 0:19:27 | 0:19:33 | |
Something rolled from the perimeter of the fence of Kruger Park. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:37 | |
There were trees everywhere. And - bang! - I hit my head on a branch. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:41 | |
The tree took Phil's head off, virtually. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:44 | |
I'm shouting, blood pouring here, my leg gone. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:47 | |
Willie John gave me a hand, and he shouted back, "It's every man for himself!" | 0:19:47 | 0:19:52 | |
Out of the park and back to the pitch, where it was business as usual. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:56 | |
'Edwards going for the corner. | 0:19:56 | 0:19:58 | |
'It must be the try. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:01 | |
'And this, a real outburst. | 0:20:01 | 0:20:04 | |
'What unpleasant scenes. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:06 | |
'Edwards...to JJ Williams. Five yards short for Tony Neary. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:11 | |
'He must be there!' | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
Boet Erasmus stadium, Port Elizabeth, | 0:20:15 | 0:20:18 | |
the Lions one victory away from glory. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:22 | |
We'd come through these games after the 2nd Test, | 0:20:22 | 0:20:26 | |
and now...got to cap it off, 3rd Test, Port Elizabeth. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:30 | |
I think all of us knew the 3rd Test was the most important game, perhaps, of our lives. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:38 | |
We knew we were on the verge of something very special. | 0:20:38 | 0:20:42 | |
Can you be the first side in history to win a Test Series in South Africa? | 0:20:42 | 0:20:47 | |
3-0 up. You're in history. You're in the history books. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:51 | |
All the threads of this tour were about to join together. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:56 | |
This was to be rugby on the REALLY dark side. | 0:20:56 | 0:20:59 | |
I knew from the start we would take no prisoners. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:05 | |
The word went out that we would not...step back at all. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:08 | |
It was important for us that they be beaten | 0:21:12 | 0:21:15 | |
because they didn't represent South Africa, they represented a minority group. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:18 | |
All of us were huddled around a radio. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
It was perhaps the first ever British Lions side in history that had gone out there | 0:21:30 | 0:21:34 | |
and said, "We won't be intimidated." | 0:21:34 | 0:21:36 | |
They represented not just the United Kingdom, possibly, | 0:21:36 | 0:21:40 | |
but they represented, to me as a youngster, | 0:21:40 | 0:21:43 | |
something greater than that. They came here and said, | 0:21:43 | 0:21:46 | |
"You might want to be oppressors, but you won't oppress us on the rugby field." | 0:21:46 | 0:21:51 | |
That meant the old cry - 99. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:54 | |
'15 yards out from the Lions' line. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:57 | |
'Going hell for the leather for the line. | 0:21:57 | 0:22:00 | |
'Only three yards short. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:02 | |
'The fists break out. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:04 | |
'And, really, this is a giant free-for-all, | 0:22:04 | 0:22:09 | |
'fitting more for the boxing ring.' | 0:22:09 | 0:22:11 | |
JPR running in, in he goes with his headband on! | 0:22:11 | 0:22:15 | |
I remember, as I was going... | 0:22:20 | 0:22:23 | |
towards the forwards, there was Phil Bennett and Andy Irvine running the other way! | 0:22:23 | 0:22:27 | |
There was a euphoric feeling of almost... | 0:22:27 | 0:22:31 | |
them going into battle for you, that's how it felt. The look of absolute glee | 0:22:31 | 0:22:36 | |
on the faces of my friends around me, | 0:22:36 | 0:22:38 | |
um, was really special. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:41 | |
When the first punch was thrown, all of a sudden South Africa knew | 0:22:41 | 0:22:44 | |
it wasn't going to be one against one or two against two, | 0:22:44 | 0:22:47 | |
that they'd have eight forwards fighting, JPR came in to fight, | 0:22:47 | 0:22:51 | |
and we would stand up and be respected. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:54 | |
That 99 call, I know resonated with me particularly, | 0:22:54 | 0:22:57 | |
because I truly believe the way to stand up to people who bully you | 0:22:57 | 0:23:02 | |
is to band together. | 0:23:02 | 0:23:04 | |
'And again...these unpleasant scenes breaking out. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:13 | |
'Both sides piling in. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:16 | |
'And some of the most appalling scenes one could ever have witnessed | 0:23:16 | 0:23:21 | |
'in a rugby Test match.' | 0:23:21 | 0:23:23 | |
The silence of the crowd was deafening. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:30 | |
They were really showing that Samson had had his hair cut - he's not that strong any more. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:35 | |
I think that, to us, was indicative of..."Hold on, it can change." | 0:23:35 | 0:23:40 | |
'McGeechan to Milliken, out to JJ Williams. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:45 | |
'Williams showing a good turn of speed. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:47 | |
'Flicks it back to JPR. Five yards short, to JJ Williams again! | 0:23:47 | 0:23:51 | |
'He's going to score! JJ Williams! | 0:23:51 | 0:23:54 | |
'The Lions leap in the air! | 0:23:54 | 0:23:57 | |
'A magnificent try! | 0:23:57 | 0:23:59 | |
'JPR Williams... | 0:23:59 | 0:24:01 | |
'running out of defence. | 0:24:01 | 0:24:04 | |
'To Milliken, and he's got JJ Williams. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:07 | |
'JJ Williams chipping through. Runs past Chris Pope. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:10 | |
'It's a race for the line! | 0:24:10 | 0:24:12 | |
'He's got it! | 0:24:12 | 0:24:14 | |
'JJ Williams has done it again!' | 0:24:14 | 0:24:17 | |
What will live with me forever, | 0:24:19 | 0:24:21 | |
in that 3rd Test, JJ scored in two tries. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:24 | |
And I'm looking at JJ scoring two tries, and I'm looking at the blacks. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:28 | |
The whole stand, in that corner, behind the posts, | 0:24:28 | 0:24:31 | |
caged in, and they're doing somersaults and they're dancing and chanting, | 0:24:31 | 0:24:36 | |
and they're going absolutely mad. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:38 | |
And whether it was right or wrong, we - a few of us and Willie John - | 0:24:38 | 0:24:43 | |
went over and just went...to them. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:45 | |
Maybe they believed, "Let's go there and give them a smack. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:49 | |
"Let's give them a taste of their own medicine." | 0:24:49 | 0:24:52 | |
Whether that was true, I don't know, but that's how it felt. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:56 | |
Young, impressionable 16-year-old boy, that's exactly how it felt. | 0:24:56 | 0:24:59 | |
The series was won 3-0, | 0:24:59 | 0:25:02 | |
a simple statistic, but something more complex was stirring across South Africa. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:08 | |
The impact of sport, and particularly rugby, in this instance, | 0:25:08 | 0:25:12 | |
on people in this country, is profound. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:15 | |
And for that team to take a drubbing, | 0:25:15 | 0:25:17 | |
um, reasons are sought, and the selectors are blamed | 0:25:17 | 0:25:23 | |
and the players were blamed, and whatever, | 0:25:23 | 0:25:26 | |
but I think we all came to a pretty quick conclusion, | 0:25:26 | 0:25:30 | |
that part of the reason was this isolation, | 0:25:30 | 0:25:33 | |
that we'd fallen behind. And then the reasons of isolation must be addressed, surely. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:39 | |
The Lions shook off the effects of the party to end all parties | 0:25:42 | 0:25:46 | |
and carried on winning, | 0:25:46 | 0:25:48 | |
all the way to the final Test at Ellis Park in Johannesburg. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:53 | |
This would end in a controversial draw, 13-13. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:57 | |
'To McGeechan, to Milliken, JPR Williams in the line. | 0:25:57 | 0:26:00 | |
'Williams still going! Cutting his way through! | 0:26:00 | 0:26:03 | |
'Five years short, to Slattery. Good score! | 0:26:03 | 0:26:06 | |
'Slattery must be there! | 0:26:06 | 0:26:08 | |
'They await the decision of the referee. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:11 | |
'Slattery surely was over.' | 0:26:11 | 0:26:13 | |
The Lions were unbeaten, a great rugby tour was over. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:16 | |
But was that all? | 0:26:16 | 0:26:18 | |
The tour originally was a setback | 0:26:18 | 0:26:23 | |
for the oppressed people of South Africa. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:26 | |
The outcome of the tour | 0:26:26 | 0:26:28 | |
had unintended consequences and benefits for the people of South Africa. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:33 | |
It had a galvanising effect, I think, | 0:26:33 | 0:26:36 | |
on what was initially a negative | 0:26:36 | 0:26:39 | |
to them coming here because we wanted them to be isolationist. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:42 | |
But having left, I think there was a huge amount of respect for the fact they had come here. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:47 | |
A lot of those players inspired a lot of people and a lot of children | 0:26:47 | 0:26:52 | |
and a lot of rugby players to emulate them in the game of rugby. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:56 | |
One would become the first black coach of the national team. | 0:26:56 | 0:27:00 | |
They inspired us. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:03 | |
I decided to come to Wales because I adored the style they were playing rugby. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:08 | |
I drew some energy from what they did. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:11 | |
Another would have a son, one of the stars of the world game, | 0:27:11 | 0:27:15 | |
Brian Habana. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:17 | |
They still are heroes to me, absolute heroes. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:20 | |
I probably feel like a lot of people feel about Brian now, I feel towards them. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:24 | |
And that affinity comes from the 1974 tour. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:28 | |
Apartheid would not end for another 20 years. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:32 | |
South Africa was only two years away from the Soweto uprising. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:36 | |
The tide was turning | 0:27:37 | 0:27:39 | |
and from whichever angle the tour of '74 was viewed, | 0:27:39 | 0:27:43 | |
these rugby players had played a part. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:46 | |
I don't think the Springboks' humiliation at the hands of the British Lions was beneficial | 0:27:47 | 0:27:53 | |
cos the Lions shouldn't have been there. Except to say this: | 0:27:53 | 0:27:55 | |
Why were the Springboks so weak? | 0:27:55 | 0:27:57 | |
It's not just that that British Lions squad was so strong. | 0:27:57 | 0:28:01 | |
The Springboks were weak because we'd stopped them touring. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:04 | |
The Lions weren't so snubbed now. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:07 | |
There's always a little political capital in a success story for the Minister of Sport. | 0:28:07 | 0:28:12 | |
It is a superb achievement these fellas have achieved. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:18 | |
I therefore thought it right, | 0:28:18 | 0:28:20 | |
whatever my views on apartheid and how to deal with it, | 0:28:20 | 0:28:23 | |
that I should acknowledge the superb sporting achievements of the British Lions. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:27 | |
For the players, it had been an extraordinary experience. | 0:28:27 | 0:28:31 | |
I genuinely think the Lions made a difference | 0:28:31 | 0:28:34 | |
because I think what South Africa saw, they weren't the superhuman race they thought they were. | 0:28:34 | 0:28:40 | |
Would I have still gone? | 0:28:42 | 0:28:45 | |
Yes, I think I would have, is the truth. I had to go to experience it. | 0:28:45 | 0:28:48 | |
Do I have any regrets? Not necessarily that I went. | 0:28:48 | 0:28:53 | |
My belief is that in going, | 0:28:53 | 0:28:56 | |
and with the outcome of that tour, | 0:28:56 | 0:28:58 | |
I'd like to think | 0:28:58 | 0:28:59 | |
that it might have made a... | 0:28:59 | 0:29:02 | |
Even if it was a minute contribution | 0:29:02 | 0:29:05 | |
to the breaking down of apartheid. | 0:29:05 | 0:29:07 | |
# Guess I'll keep on ramblin' | 0:29:07 | 0:29:10 | |
# I'm gonna | 0:29:10 | 0:29:12 | |
# Sing my song | 0:29:12 | 0:29:15 | |
# I've gotta find my baby | 0:29:15 | 0:29:17 | |
# I'm gonna ramble on Sing my song... # | 0:29:18 | 0:29:20 | |
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