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Better to be born lucky than good-looking. I had my share of luck, | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
but the skill, if there is any, is taking advantage of that luck. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:08 | |
Barry Hearn is one of the most powerful men in world sport. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:12 | |
Top drawer, top drawer. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:14 | |
He's come from a council estate in Dagenham | 0:00:14 | 0:00:16 | |
and he's built his life up and his career up from nothing. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:20 | |
He's managed some of the biggest sports stars of the last four decades. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:25 | |
Pound for pound, he's delivered more excitement | 0:00:25 | 0:00:29 | |
to the punter in the street than any other promoter. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:32 | |
He's transformed working men's pastimes into primetime TV. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:39 | |
'Barry is one of those larger-than-life characters.' | 0:00:39 | 0:00:42 | |
He's a Jack-the-lad. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:43 | |
If Barry was chocolate he would eat himself. He does love himself. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:48 | |
The geezer on the right is better looking than the geezer on the left! | 0:00:48 | 0:00:51 | |
I'm a showman. That's what I do. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:53 | |
He's made millions, lost millions, and made millions again. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:57 | |
What a boy, eh? | 0:00:57 | 0:00:59 | |
I'm really proud of everything my dad's done. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:01 | |
What you see is what you get. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:03 | |
A wheeler, a dealer, a charmer and a chancer, the boy done good. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:07 | |
Play well! | 0:01:07 | 0:01:09 | |
He's great at making you feel good in yourself. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:11 | |
You-u-u cheeky chappy! | 0:01:11 | 0:01:14 | |
He definitely, 100% is, the people's promoter. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
# ..all right | 0:01:17 | 0:01:19 | |
# Jumpin' Jack Flash is a gas, gas, gas. # | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
# Out of the tree of life I just picked me a plum. # | 0:01:22 | 0:01:27 | |
There's certain times when you look in the mirror and say to yourself, | 0:01:29 | 0:01:33 | |
privately, "You know what? You're pretty good." | 0:01:33 | 0:01:37 | |
The shoulders go back, the chest comes out and says, "Bazza, nice one." | 0:01:37 | 0:01:41 | |
# ..it's a real good bet the best is yet to come. # | 0:01:41 | 0:01:45 | |
Barry is in the south of France. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:47 | |
He's here to make deals and find new buyers for some of the 2,000 hours | 0:01:47 | 0:01:52 | |
of televised sport his Matchroom company produce every year. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:57 | |
He is the ultimate travelling salesman. | 0:01:57 | 0:01:59 | |
# ..but you ain't seen it shine. # | 0:01:59 | 0:02:02 | |
Doesn't get much better than this, does it? | 0:02:02 | 0:02:05 | |
I mean, this is supposed to be work, you know, so, yeah, fantastic. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:08 | |
Obviously a great place. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:09 | |
Hub of activity and, you know, this particular trade festival | 0:02:09 | 0:02:13 | |
probably represents 80% of your annual business. | 0:02:13 | 0:02:15 | |
A bit like Christmas but in the sports business. It's Christmas Day. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:18 | |
We need to come up with probably somewhere around 300,000 US to do a major. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:24 | |
A lot of people accuse me of being a bit of a barrow boy, sometimes. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:26 | |
Well, this is my element. You know, I can stand up and offer, you know... | 0:02:26 | 0:02:30 | |
different deals on different programmes. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:32 | |
The dream is this relationship evolves into a major, televised, global event. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:37 | |
'The workload that he gets through day in, day out, is not human.' | 0:02:37 | 0:02:40 | |
That's really what I'm after, yeah. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:42 | |
'But he's always coming out with wacky ideas,' | 0:02:42 | 0:02:44 | |
and you tend to hear the idea and laugh, and then you start thinking | 0:02:44 | 0:02:48 | |
about it and you think, "He might have a point there, you know." | 0:02:48 | 0:02:52 | |
There are areas in... | 0:02:52 | 0:02:53 | |
'We start off with the criteria - if I don't like it, we don't do it.' | 0:02:53 | 0:02:56 | |
'I'm sure that'll change when my kids run the business' | 0:02:56 | 0:02:58 | |
and I'm sort of somewhere else. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:00 | |
But, for the moment, if Bazza don't like it, it don't happen. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:02 | |
It's a bit like going to your dentist. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:04 | |
You know, the secret of going to your dentist is | 0:03:04 | 0:03:06 | |
you grab his testicles, look him in the eyes | 0:03:06 | 0:03:08 | |
and say, "Now, neither of us are going to hurt each other, are we?" | 0:03:08 | 0:03:11 | |
'Any one year we will spend a considerable amount of time' | 0:03:11 | 0:03:15 | |
looking at maybe five or six new opportunities. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:18 | |
And some of the crazier ones... | 0:03:18 | 0:03:19 | |
We looked at the World Crazy Golf Championships. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:22 | |
And everyone says, "You can see Tiger Woods playing one off the windmill." | 0:03:22 | 0:03:25 | |
Things like that, and you say, "How bizarre would that be?" | 0:03:25 | 0:03:28 | |
'For one reason or another it doesn't happen. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:30 | |
'I mean, currently, we're looking at ping-pong. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:33 | |
'I mean, 300 million people play ping pong.' | 0:03:33 | 0:03:36 | |
Why can't we turn it into the next darts? | 0:03:36 | 0:03:38 | |
'It's like going to a restaurant. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:39 | |
'Do we eat the hors d'oeuvre before the main course, | 0:03:39 | 0:03:41 | |
'or do we eat the main course first? | 0:03:41 | 0:03:43 | |
'It depends how hungry you are sometimes, | 0:03:43 | 0:03:45 | |
'and it depends if you have enough money for the hors d'oeuvre as well.' | 0:03:45 | 0:03:49 | |
I know it sends big-headed, but I think I'm the best. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:51 | |
Thank you very much. Too strong for me. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:53 | |
'Every day, there's a spring in my step. I'm happy to be alive.' | 0:03:53 | 0:03:56 | |
And, you know, listen, can I sit here, honestly, and complain about anything? | 0:03:56 | 0:04:00 | |
Right. Who's next? | 0:04:00 | 0:04:02 | |
Down in the harbour, Barry has hired a boat. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:06 | |
He's holding a private party for clients and customers. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:10 | |
Helping him charm his guests is one of the top sports stars he manages - | 0:04:10 | 0:04:15 | |
darts legend, Phil "The Power" Taylor. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:18 | |
OK, can I wish everyone the best of luck, | 0:04:18 | 0:04:20 | |
cos you know you've got no chance of winning it. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:22 | |
You're now playing at the table with one of the world's greats. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:25 | |
'He went out twice last... | 0:04:25 | 0:04:27 | |
'Basically, I'm here to support Barry, | 0:04:27 | 0:04:29 | |
'and to be honest, have a good time.' | 0:04:29 | 0:04:31 | |
It's a nice little break for me because I don't get a chance | 0:04:31 | 0:04:34 | |
to do things like this. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:35 | |
Where would a little council house wally be on a nice boat like this? | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
It's unbelievable. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:40 | |
-Oh, we've got a pot! -Three players. -Three players! | 0:04:40 | 0:04:43 | |
Three players and a pot. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:44 | |
'I don't think I've met a more positive person, definitely, | 0:04:44 | 0:04:47 | |
-'than my dad.' -You may need a bit of help here! | 0:04:47 | 0:04:50 | |
'I haven't met someone, really, I think,' | 0:04:50 | 0:04:52 | |
that is more fun to be around. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:54 | |
And I think most people would say that that know him as well. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:59 | |
To be honest with you, it's like a man playing with children! | 0:04:59 | 0:05:02 | |
He's great at mingling, he's great at making people feel very, very special. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:06 | |
When he grabbed hold of me I was nothing, really. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:09 | |
And he made me feel like a world champion. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:11 | |
And he's probably one of the only people that has ever done that. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:16 | |
-Susan, watch out! -Oh-oh, danger! | 0:05:16 | 0:05:19 | |
'I've never seen him down. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:21 | |
'If I lose tournament, you know,' | 0:05:21 | 0:05:22 | |
"Come on, boy! Doesn't matter, you'll win the next one." So, you're up all the time. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:26 | |
You know, you're always feeling good about yourself. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:29 | |
'He breathes energy in you and that's why he's been so successful.' | 0:05:29 | 0:05:32 | |
# Cheerio and come back soon! | 0:05:32 | 0:05:35 | |
# Cos you know how much we miss you! # | 0:05:35 | 0:05:37 | |
Tonight is all about mixing business with pleasure, | 0:05:37 | 0:05:41 | |
although for the host with the most | 0:05:41 | 0:05:42 | |
there's no difference between the two. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:44 | |
When I was young I used to lie all the time | 0:05:44 | 0:05:47 | |
and I used to make a shed load of money by lying. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:49 | |
Now you're old you tell the truth and you feel cleansed! You know? | 0:05:49 | 0:05:54 | |
In our business we've been brown nosing people for so many years - | 0:05:54 | 0:05:57 | |
it's a waste of time! | 0:05:57 | 0:05:58 | |
'I still consider myself working class, you know, I'm a worker. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:01 | |
'And I don't see why normal, ordinary guys don't rule the world | 0:06:01 | 0:06:05 | |
'and that's our aim.' | 0:06:05 | 0:06:06 | |
You know, I think our sports can take over the world | 0:06:06 | 0:06:09 | |
because everybody plays them. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:11 | |
The darts is only 10 years old | 0:06:11 | 0:06:12 | |
but the snooker, two years ago they came to me and said, | 0:06:12 | 0:06:15 | |
"Look, we're not getting anywhere," MAN LAUGHS | 0:06:15 | 0:06:17 | |
so I put the deal together and I bought the whole lot. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:20 | |
-What's the biggest? -It's the biggest in China. -In China?! | 0:06:20 | 0:06:22 | |
-There's a 100,000 full-time players in China now. -Wow. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:25 | |
There's more snooker clubs in Shanghai | 0:06:25 | 0:06:27 | |
than the rest of the world added together! | 0:06:27 | 0:06:29 | |
Oh, my God. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:31 | |
There may well be thousands of snooker clubs in China | 0:06:33 | 0:06:36 | |
but the most important one for Barry is tucked away in Romford, in Essex. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:41 | |
The decision to buy this place in the mid-'70s | 0:06:41 | 0:06:44 | |
would change his life for ever. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:47 | |
'Fate is a very strange thing, you know.' | 0:06:47 | 0:06:49 | |
Certain things just seemed destined to happen. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:53 | |
You know, I don't know why, I never played snooker before. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:55 | |
I'd never held a snooker cue | 0:06:55 | 0:06:57 | |
but I bought the snooker halls, actually, as a property investment. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:00 | |
-All right? -Morning, morning. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:02 | |
'But as soon as I bought them | 0:07:02 | 0:07:03 | |
'the BBC put snooker on to mainstream television | 0:07:03 | 0:07:07 | |
'and suddenly there was queues of people trying to play snooker. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:11 | |
'And everyone said to me, "You're a genius! How did you do it?" | 0:07:11 | 0:07:14 | |
'Do you know what? It was pure luck.' | 0:07:14 | 0:07:16 | |
Right place, right time, | 0:07:16 | 0:07:17 | |
is so much more important than being brain of Britain. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:21 | |
Misspent youth? I don't think so. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:27 | |
It wasn't long before he began promoting his own events. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:32 | |
Attracting players from all over the south-east, | 0:07:32 | 0:07:35 | |
including a tongue-tied teenager from London. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:38 | |
-The ball in the holes bit is where you get the points from. -OK. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:42 | |
-I'll smash them up for you. -What, no respect? -Well... | 0:07:42 | 0:07:46 | |
Do you know, that is a typical Davis safety shot! | 0:07:46 | 0:07:49 | |
# The best things in life are free | 0:07:49 | 0:07:53 | |
# But you can give them to the birds and bees... # | 0:07:53 | 0:07:55 | |
'The cream on the cake was when the best player in the world walked in | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
'and said, "Can I play in one of your competitions?" And...' | 0:07:58 | 0:08:01 | |
at the time, I had no idea how good he was, of course. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:04 | |
I didn't know anything about snooker. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:06 | |
All I saw was someone who was young, very dedicated... | 0:08:06 | 0:08:08 | |
you know, totally devoid of personality, charisma... | 0:08:08 | 0:08:11 | |
-Here we go, here we go, here we go! -Actually, nothing's changed! | 0:08:11 | 0:08:14 | |
-Here we go! -Nothing's changed! THEY SNIGGER | 0:08:14 | 0:08:16 | |
This is giving me hope. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:19 | |
You are proving that I am actually quite good! | 0:08:19 | 0:08:21 | |
-Do you know what? I might take this game up. -No, don't take it up! | 0:08:21 | 0:08:23 | |
'I was a pretty shy young lad with a snooker cue and Barry came along. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:26 | |
'Obviously, he was the market salesman, brash,' | 0:08:26 | 0:08:28 | |
you know, bit of a geezer and a bit like that. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:31 | |
But, funnily enough, erm, you could be in awe of Barry | 0:08:31 | 0:08:34 | |
'if you'd not met him but, usually, once you meet him,' | 0:08:34 | 0:08:38 | |
you realise there's a genuine enthusiasm there that rubs off on you. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
'In those early days we were a sort of marriage made in heaven | 0:08:41 | 0:08:44 | |
'because Steve had the ability, I had the front | 0:08:44 | 0:08:47 | |
'and I never EVER, in 35 years,' | 0:08:47 | 0:08:50 | |
told this man what ball he should pot next. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:54 | |
Well, you can see why. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:55 | |
And I don't think he's ever told me, | 0:08:55 | 0:08:57 | |
you know, what the deal I should do next. | 0:08:57 | 0:08:59 | |
Every day of his life he's always been enthusiastic | 0:08:59 | 0:09:01 | |
and you can't help but be carried along downstream with him. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:04 | |
And so, in the dressing room, in between events and matches, | 0:09:04 | 0:09:08 | |
great person to have in your corner. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:11 | |
You walked out, you had steam coming out your nostrils | 0:09:11 | 0:09:13 | |
and you are fired up because he was fired up. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:16 | |
-COMMENTATOR: -I'm sure, as the years go by, you will see him, | 0:09:16 | 0:09:19 | |
as I hope to, wear the world crown. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:21 | |
CHEERING | 0:09:21 | 0:09:23 | |
'Steve and I would sit and discuss | 0:09:23 | 0:09:25 | |
'what it's going to be like to win the world title' | 0:09:25 | 0:09:29 | |
and we would plan what's the speech afterwards, | 0:09:29 | 0:09:32 | |
and how is it going to be, and what's the opportunities that will exist. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:36 | |
We'd have tears, literally tears, | 0:09:36 | 0:09:38 | |
rolling down our cheeks, thinking of it. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:40 | |
'The emotion of actually achieving your goal. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:42 | |
'We were so committed to winning.' | 0:09:42 | 0:09:44 | |
-COMMENTATOR: -He's breathing heavily as he comes down to this final pink. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:49 | |
-CHEERING -And that's it, the world snooker champion 1981, Steve Davis. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:57 | |
'He got down on the straight pink | 0:09:57 | 0:09:59 | |
'and the next thing I knew was the pink was in the hole | 0:09:59 | 0:10:03 | |
'and I was hitting him with almost a rugby tackle | 0:10:03 | 0:10:06 | |
'that would have knocked most people over! | 0:10:06 | 0:10:08 | |
I can't describe the feeling. To this day, | 0:10:08 | 0:10:11 | |
I get a lump in my throat thinking about it. | 0:10:11 | 0:10:13 | |
It was the best feeling. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:16 | |
Amazing emotion and it was like us against the world, | 0:10:16 | 0:10:20 | |
the boys had done good. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:22 | |
I think I was in the back snivelling with Barry giving it everything. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:25 | |
He was like that, he was just 100% all the time. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:28 | |
There was a closed shop in snooker 30 years ago | 0:10:29 | 0:10:33 | |
and this upstart comes in with a loudmouth manager. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:36 | |
What do they know? | 0:10:36 | 0:10:38 | |
Actually, we know how to win and we'll show you | 0:10:38 | 0:10:42 | |
and everybody else that this is the start of a new era. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:47 | |
TV VOICEOVER: 'The man who manages Steve Davis | 0:10:49 | 0:10:51 | |
'and two other giants of the green baize, | 0:10:51 | 0:10:53 | |
'Terry Griffiths and Tony Meo, is Barry Hearn, | 0:10:53 | 0:10:56 | |
'known justifiably as snooker's Mr Big.' | 0:10:56 | 0:10:59 | |
It was an evolution. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:02 | |
You have to bear in mind that I had no idea what I was doing. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:06 | |
Hello. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:07 | |
'Everything was like Columbus.' | 0:11:07 | 0:11:09 | |
Del, how are you? | 0:11:09 | 0:11:10 | |
'We were finding things out about ourselves, about the industry,' | 0:11:10 | 0:11:14 | |
daily, hourly sometimes. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:16 | |
Well done, Terry, well done, my son. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:19 | |
Snooker's popularity went through the roof. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:22 | |
Only royal weddings, soap operas | 0:11:22 | 0:11:24 | |
and the odd sitcom attracted more TV viewers. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:28 | |
In 1985, over 18 million tuned in to see Dennis Taylor | 0:11:28 | 0:11:33 | |
dramatically snatch the world crown. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:36 | |
He's done it. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:37 | |
CHEERING | 0:11:37 | 0:11:39 | |
Barry, after I beat Steve Davis | 0:11:39 | 0:11:40 | |
signed me up, which was quite amazing. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:44 | |
At this time, he was the main man. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:46 | |
He was looking after Steve Davis, Terry Griffiths, Tony Meo, | 0:11:46 | 0:11:51 | |
Jimmy White and with Willie Thorne. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:54 | |
All the ones that featured on Snooker Loopy with Chas and Dave. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:59 | |
# Snooker loopy nuts are we | 0:11:59 | 0:12:00 | |
# Me and him and them and me...# | 0:12:00 | 0:12:03 | |
The nation went nuts over snooker. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:05 | |
It even had its own sing-along soundtrack with Barry conducting | 0:12:05 | 0:12:10 | |
the unlikeliest boy band ever assembled. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:13 | |
I went to the filming of it at my dad's office. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:15 | |
I've got a very vivid recollection of Tony Meo with a plate of pasta. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:19 | |
I think it's great. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:22 | |
I love it and I love it that my dad | 0:12:22 | 0:12:25 | |
got to be on Top of the Pops and everything. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:27 | |
It was the superstar treatment | 0:12:27 | 0:12:29 | |
that ordinary blokes can only dream about. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:32 | |
In those days, all the snooker players, | 0:12:33 | 0:12:35 | |
we were living the dream and we made loads of money. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:38 | |
But we didn't stop laughing. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:42 | |
# Celebrate, I'd buy another eight, | 0:12:42 | 0:12:44 | |
# Hairbrushes for me barnet...# | 0:12:44 | 0:12:47 | |
We did a variety of Matchroom products | 0:12:47 | 0:12:51 | |
which I look back on now... | 0:12:51 | 0:12:53 | |
Frightening, so frightening. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:56 | |
I cringed at the Matchroom slippers. | 0:12:56 | 0:12:58 | |
It's wild and hey, we'll do some silly things, | 0:12:58 | 0:13:01 | |
let's create our own fragrance. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:03 | |
The Matchroom aftershave was moving on into another level. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:06 | |
For me, it was... I thought we were getting a bit poncey by that time, | 0:13:06 | 0:13:10 | |
moving into that world. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:12 | |
Building those personalities, this was all part of a plan. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:17 | |
We got everybody together and I can remember saying to Terry Griffiths, | 0:13:17 | 0:13:21 | |
"You're Welsh, you just sing along." | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
"Dennis, you tell jokes, you're the funny Irishman." | 0:13:26 | 0:13:29 | |
# Cos he's got the rest of us signed up...# | 0:13:31 | 0:13:33 | |
"Steve, you're the boring one, you just sip water." | 0:13:33 | 0:13:37 | |
They all created a character and it became like a soap opera. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:40 | |
It was almost Coronation Street with balls. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:43 | |
Meet Willie Thorne, snooker's maximum man | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 | |
with an astonishing 62 maximum breaks to his credit. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:51 | |
Jimmy White, snooker's wild man | 0:13:53 | 0:13:56 | |
and probably the most naturally gifted player | 0:13:56 | 0:13:59 | |
in the professional snooker world. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:01 | |
He managed me twice for two lots of five years at a time. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:06 | |
I was a bit of a lad in them days and sometimes he couldn't find me. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:09 | |
He was always saying, | 0:14:09 | 0:14:11 | |
"What are you doing? "Why are you wasting your time?" | 0:14:11 | 0:14:14 | |
We're pals all the time. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:16 | |
People criticise the Matchroom like they criticise Everton and Liverpool. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:20 | |
The thing is, it's all down to winning | 0:14:20 | 0:14:23 | |
and that's what we have done all year. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
That's what we'll do next year, the year after and the year after that. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:29 | |
With his stable of stars dominating the game, | 0:14:30 | 0:14:33 | |
he was now the most powerful man in snooker and the most outspoken. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:38 | |
Everybody in the game, | 0:14:38 | 0:14:40 | |
other than the people Barry was managing and promoting | 0:14:40 | 0:14:42 | |
hated him with a passion. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:44 | |
He was coming out with things they didn't want to hear. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:46 | |
The role I see for the Matchroom professionals, | 0:14:46 | 0:14:49 | |
other than winning everything and spreading the game across the world, | 0:14:49 | 0:14:53 | |
is almost to act as a watchdog | 0:14:53 | 0:14:54 | |
and if we feel the governing body is making mistakes, | 0:14:54 | 0:14:57 | |
just have a little discussion with them. | 0:14:57 | 0:14:59 | |
Barry's style would be too brash for some people. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:03 | |
He was also treading on the patch | 0:15:03 | 0:15:06 | |
of our Association by putting | 0:15:06 | 0:15:08 | |
events on and they started to put up barriers against him | 0:15:08 | 0:15:12 | |
progressing within the game. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:14 | |
This is a serious business. There's a lot of money here | 0:15:14 | 0:15:17 | |
and we're talking about things like splitting up prize-money. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:20 | |
This room, apart from myself, of course, | 0:15:20 | 0:15:22 | |
they all grossed £2.5 million this season. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:25 | |
'We had years of dominance, followed by' | 0:15:25 | 0:15:28 | |
lots of problems with the governing body that didn't really want me | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
to be in business. They wanted to do it themselves. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:33 | |
Unfortunately, they didn't have the ability to do it themselves. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:36 | |
After a while, because of my personality and nature, | 0:15:39 | 0:15:43 | |
I wanted to do other things as well as snooker | 0:15:43 | 0:15:46 | |
and in the middle to late '80s I decided, | 0:15:46 | 0:15:49 | |
you know what, I think I'll be a boxing promoter! | 0:15:49 | 0:15:51 | |
COMMENTATOR: White Hart Lane claims its place | 0:15:51 | 0:15:54 | |
in British boxing history by staging the richest ever fight | 0:15:54 | 0:15:56 | |
held in Europe - Frank Bruno versus Joe Bugner - | 0:15:56 | 0:15:59 | |
a £3 million bonanza that's about to happen. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:02 | |
Having conquered snooker, | 0:16:02 | 0:16:04 | |
boxing was next on Barry's hit list. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:07 | |
His first venture into the fight game | 0:16:07 | 0:16:09 | |
was to set up a heavyweight battle of epic proportions. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:14 | |
'I decided if I was going to do it, I got to do something big.' | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
My ego wouldn't let me do anything small. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:19 | |
So the ultimate ticket-selling fight - | 0:16:19 | 0:16:23 | |
everybody loved Frank Bruno, | 0:16:23 | 0:16:26 | |
everybody hated Joe Bugner - and you know, | 0:16:26 | 0:16:29 | |
it made a lot of money. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:30 | |
CROWD ROARS | 0:16:30 | 0:16:32 | |
Barry offered us the fight | 0:16:32 | 0:16:35 | |
and I didn't believe him. I didn't think he could deliver. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:39 | |
Greg Dyke was really funny, you know. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:41 | |
He's the only man in my life that ever, in television, paid me | 0:16:41 | 0:16:45 | |
more than I asked for, because he didn't believe I could deliver. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:49 | |
He said we could have it for 200 grand, | 0:16:49 | 0:16:52 | |
which I thought was... If you could get it for 200 grand, | 0:16:52 | 0:16:56 | |
it was a steal. | 0:16:56 | 0:16:57 | |
My worry was that he couldn't get it. | 0:16:57 | 0:16:59 | |
So I offered him more. I said, "If you can get this | 0:16:59 | 0:17:02 | |
"I'll give you more. I'll give you a quarter of a million." | 0:17:02 | 0:17:05 | |
CROWD ROARS | 0:17:05 | 0:17:06 | |
COMMENTATOR: He's going to let him box on. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:08 | |
And he's pinned in Bruno's corner | 0:17:08 | 0:17:09 | |
and it won't go surely now. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:11 | |
I pride myself on always delivering. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:13 | |
BELL RINGS | 0:17:13 | 0:17:16 | |
The towel has come in from the Australian's corner. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:16 | |
When I say something, wrong or right, | 0:17:16 | 0:17:19 | |
I honestly believe that and when I give you my hand, you take my heart. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:23 | |
With me a contract is fine, | 0:17:23 | 0:17:26 | |
but if I give my word to something, I'd rather die than lose that. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:30 | |
A quarter of a century on from that first fight, Barry is still | 0:17:32 | 0:17:35 | |
heavily involved in the sport. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:37 | |
-Dressing room's upstairs? -Yes. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:39 | |
-The fighters' dressing room is upstairs? -Yes. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:41 | |
He's managed more than 30 world champions | 0:17:41 | 0:17:44 | |
and promoted over 500 fights | 0:17:44 | 0:17:47 | |
and in that time, he's not taken too many wrong turns. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:51 | |
Sorry! | 0:17:51 | 0:17:53 | |
Think it must be this one! | 0:17:53 | 0:17:55 | |
Who's in where? | 0:17:55 | 0:17:56 | |
He understands how to make something seem exciting. | 0:17:56 | 0:17:59 | |
He understands | 0:17:59 | 0:18:01 | |
that having an event in itself isn't enough. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:04 | |
You have to build it up and you have to make it | 0:18:04 | 0:18:06 | |
into a spectacular. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:08 | |
-Good performance. So far, good performance. Well done. -Thanks a lot. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:11 | |
You got plenty in the crowd with you, son. Box well, yeah? | 0:18:11 | 0:18:14 | |
He understands what the public, | 0:18:14 | 0:18:16 | |
particularly the male public, will watch. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:19 | |
And that was always the genius, really. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:22 | |
One of the most successful ideas | 0:18:23 | 0:18:26 | |
to shake up boxing has been Prizefighter - | 0:18:26 | 0:18:29 | |
an eight-man contest fought over one night of three-round bouts, | 0:18:29 | 0:18:33 | |
with the last man standing picking up a big cheque. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:37 | |
The punters may love it, but the purists aren't so sure. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:40 | |
It's just something I've never got into, though I've had two boxers | 0:18:40 | 0:18:43 | |
who have gone and one Prizefighter | 0:18:43 | 0:18:45 | |
and both won £32,000 each | 0:18:45 | 0:18:46 | |
and obviously I've taken my management percentage, | 0:18:46 | 0:18:49 | |
so I have earned out of it, | 0:18:49 | 0:18:51 | |
but to me, it's not boxing, | 0:18:51 | 0:18:54 | |
it's not what a traditional boxing person likes | 0:18:54 | 0:18:56 | |
and I'm a traditional boxing person. | 0:18:56 | 0:18:59 | |
CROWD ROARS | 0:18:59 | 0:19:01 | |
Everyone's always said, | 0:19:01 | 0:19:03 | |
"I know your father. I've worked with him for years. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:05 | |
"He's one of the straightest men in boxing" | 0:19:05 | 0:19:07 | |
and that's actually quite nice to hear. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:09 | |
And that's something he's always instilled in us. That whole time. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:13 | |
"Do things properly, be upfront with people, tell them the truth. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:17 | |
"Nothing can ever come back to us." | 0:19:17 | 0:19:19 | |
I've always found him to be fair. If he says | 0:19:19 | 0:19:21 | |
he's going to pay me a pound, he'll pay me a pound. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:23 | |
If he makes £1.20, that's down to him, | 0:19:23 | 0:19:27 | |
he don't tell you about the 20p. He tells you about the pound he's promised. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:30 | |
But everything he always says he does deliver, | 0:19:30 | 0:19:34 | |
that I'll say about him, unlike a lot of people in boxing. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:37 | |
I know how to beat him, but... | 0:19:37 | 0:19:40 | |
-Another three rounds, might have been the difference. -Yeah, yeah. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:43 | |
Once you close that distance. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:44 | |
'I always wanted to be Heavyweight Champion of the World as a youngster. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:47 | |
'I unfortunately had no ability,' | 0:19:47 | 0:19:49 | |
but never lost my love of the sport | 0:19:49 | 0:19:51 | |
and my respect for the people who do it. It is the toughest game of all. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:55 | |
I felt that! | 0:19:55 | 0:19:57 | |
Put me right off me pork pie! | 0:19:57 | 0:19:59 | |
Even today, we look forward to the careers | 0:20:01 | 0:20:03 | |
of some of the young fighters we've got. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:05 | |
When I think about it I'm buzzing. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:08 | |
We'll be in Vegas. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:10 | |
We're going to take the title. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:12 | |
We're going to beat up everybody. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:14 | |
We're going to rock the world. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:16 | |
# Don't call it a comeback | 0:20:16 | 0:20:18 | |
# I've been here for years | 0:20:18 | 0:20:19 | |
# Rockin' my peers... # | 0:20:19 | 0:20:22 | |
Back in the early '90s, Barry was the king of British boxing, | 0:20:22 | 0:20:24 | |
managing the most explosive talent of the era - | 0:20:24 | 0:20:28 | |
Christopher Livingstone Eubank. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:31 | |
# I'm going to knock you out | 0:20:31 | 0:20:33 | |
# Mama said knock you out | 0:20:33 | 0:20:35 | |
# I'm going to knock you out | 0:20:35 | 0:20:37 | |
# Mama said knock you out. # | 0:20:37 | 0:20:39 | |
As he had done with Davis in snooker, | 0:20:39 | 0:20:42 | |
he formed a very close bond with his latest sporting protege. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:46 | |
It proved to be an intense relationship. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:49 | |
I loved Eubank, no question. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:50 | |
I think he's a very special guy. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:53 | |
I mean he's infuriating, he's eccentric, slightly mad, | 0:20:53 | 0:20:56 | |
but I would not have swapped a minute | 0:20:56 | 0:20:59 | |
with Chris Eubank. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:01 | |
I don't know if Barry really knows it, but I think | 0:21:01 | 0:21:03 | |
I actually discovered Chris Eubank. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:05 | |
His first couple of fights were on my shows | 0:21:05 | 0:21:08 | |
and he came to see me. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:10 | |
We fell out over a cup of Earl Grey tea. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:14 | |
He wanted Earl Grey tea and I only had ordinary tea in the office. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:19 | |
The next thing I knew he signed with Barry Hearn and him | 0:21:19 | 0:21:22 | |
and Barry were a good partnership. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:24 | |
You had the showman and you had the ringmaster. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
CROWD ROARS | 0:21:27 | 0:21:30 | |
'Ronnie Davies was Eubank's trainer.' | 0:21:30 | 0:21:32 | |
I think it's fair to say Ronnie Davies and me | 0:21:32 | 0:21:35 | |
would have taken a bullet for Eubank | 0:21:35 | 0:21:37 | |
on the way into the ring. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:39 | |
CROWD ROARS | 0:21:39 | 0:21:42 | |
That's an intensity that sounds simple, | 0:21:42 | 0:21:44 | |
but I'm serious. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:46 | |
We would have taken a bullet for that man. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:48 | |
This man is, somehow, | 0:21:48 | 0:21:52 | |
I think, his heart is good. I don't know why it's good. | 0:21:52 | 0:21:55 | |
I mean, you don't find promoters with good hearts. | 0:21:55 | 0:21:57 | |
They usually use fighters as meat. | 0:21:57 | 0:21:59 | |
This man gives a fair deal. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:00 | |
The Hearn name continues to be a powerful | 0:22:02 | 0:22:05 | |
and influential one in the sport, | 0:22:05 | 0:22:07 | |
but it's son Eddie who is now the more prominent promoter in boxing. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:11 | |
I'm always going to be Barry Hearn's son. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:16 | |
That's fine, I'm proud to be it, but what he's always instilled in me is | 0:22:16 | 0:22:19 | |
a working-class attitude and that's something that will never leave me. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:23 | |
So, I get up every morning, you know, I spend time with my daughter. I go to work. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:28 | |
I work my cods off all day. Advice comes from him all the time. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:33 | |
You know, he always says to me, | 0:22:34 | 0:22:36 | |
which is something that always stands out to me in business is, | 0:22:36 | 0:22:38 | |
"Always leave a bit of bread in the fish's mouth". | 0:22:38 | 0:22:42 | |
Greed is a very dangerous thing, not just in business, but in life. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:47 | |
It just makes you think, yeah, maybe you're right, you know. Don't just go for the kill straight off. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:52 | |
Like Barry, the business has come a long way. | 0:22:52 | 0:22:55 | |
Yeah, we've got our very high standards and if the team we've got | 0:22:55 | 0:22:59 | |
don't come up with their standards, then we'll change the team. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:02 | |
Set up in an office beneath Romford's Snooker Club back in 1982, | 0:23:02 | 0:23:06 | |
Matchroom Sport is now based in the Essex mansion | 0:23:06 | 0:23:09 | |
where his children Katie and Eddie grew up. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:12 | |
And he's aiming to keep it in the family | 0:23:12 | 0:23:14 | |
as he begins to hand over the reins. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:16 | |
Just drop a note to Art Pellulo and say, | 0:23:16 | 0:23:19 | |
"Dear Art, what are you doing with Pirog?" | 0:23:19 | 0:23:23 | |
I mean, there's high standards because Dad did it from nothing. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:27 | |
It's a tough one for them to come in and say, | 0:23:27 | 0:23:30 | |
now you take it to the next level, but I think it's always tough | 0:23:30 | 0:23:35 | |
for kids to follow in their father's footsteps, you know, | 0:23:35 | 0:23:38 | |
who's done pretty good for a youngster from nowhere. | 0:23:38 | 0:23:42 | |
Not quite nowhere. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:45 | |
Blitz-damaged Dagenham was where Barry | 0:23:45 | 0:23:47 | |
came into the world on the 19th June 1948. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:51 | |
Dad, Morris, was a bus conductor, while mum, Barbara, | 0:23:51 | 0:23:54 | |
cleaned people's houses for a living. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:57 | |
Younger sister Christine completed the Hearn family picture. | 0:23:57 | 0:24:00 | |
In this age of austerity, money was always tight, | 0:24:00 | 0:24:05 | |
despite Barry's best efforts. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:06 | |
I always had aspirations. I always wanted the big house on the hill. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:10 | |
I was never frightened to go to work. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:13 | |
So I started at about 13 years old stripping tomato plants. | 0:24:13 | 0:24:16 | |
Then I built up a car washing round, window cleaning round, | 0:24:16 | 0:24:20 | |
baby-sitting round, gardening round. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:22 | |
Worked with other kids and organised various ways of making money, you know? | 0:24:22 | 0:24:28 | |
My mother told me, when I was 12, | 0:24:32 | 0:24:34 | |
"When you grow up, you're going to be a chartered accountant". | 0:24:34 | 0:24:38 | |
I said, "What do they do, Mum?" | 0:24:38 | 0:24:40 | |
She said, "I haven't got a clue, | 0:24:40 | 0:24:42 | |
"but the man whose house I clean says you never see a poor one". | 0:24:42 | 0:24:46 | |
She was the driving force in my life, really. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:53 | |
You know, she was the one that locked me in my bedroom at night when | 0:24:53 | 0:24:56 | |
I was studying for my accountancy exams and wouldn't let me out. | 0:24:56 | 0:24:59 | |
I grew up in that society where my father never taught me too much, | 0:25:02 | 0:25:06 | |
but one phrase he did give me was, "make every day count". | 0:25:06 | 0:25:11 | |
I've lived on that ever since. Every day, I work as if it's my last day. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:16 | |
In 1966, Barry met Susan and four years later, | 0:25:17 | 0:25:20 | |
the recently qualified accountant, married his glamorous fiancee. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:26 | |
Two children, Katie and Eddie, followed | 0:25:26 | 0:25:28 | |
and they remain very close despite the odd fallout. | 0:25:28 | 0:25:31 | |
When I was born, my mum went into labour | 0:25:32 | 0:25:36 | |
and he dropped her off at the hospital and said he'd be back later | 0:25:36 | 0:25:39 | |
and went to Romford Snooker club and played a guy called Chunky Warne | 0:25:39 | 0:25:42 | |
for a fiver or something, | 0:25:42 | 0:25:44 | |
and the hospital called the Snooker club | 0:25:44 | 0:25:45 | |
to tell him that I was being born, | 0:25:45 | 0:25:47 | |
but he said it was a best-of-three and it was one all - | 0:25:47 | 0:25:49 | |
he couldn't go anywhere - and then turned up at the hospital | 0:25:49 | 0:25:53 | |
and she was being wheeled out and he looked at her and he said, | 0:25:53 | 0:25:55 | |
"Good luck, darling," and she says, "I've already had him!" | 0:25:55 | 0:25:58 | |
# Consider yourself one of us. # | 0:25:58 | 0:26:01 | |
I'm really proud of everything my dad's done, | 0:26:04 | 0:26:07 | |
not just in terms of business, | 0:26:07 | 0:26:09 | |
but I'm really proud of him as a person. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:11 | |
You know, I'm a father now and I'm quite hands on as a father, | 0:26:11 | 0:26:14 | |
and he always takes the Mickey out of me, you know, | 0:26:14 | 0:26:16 | |
if I'm changing a nappy, or he can't understand what's going on here, | 0:26:16 | 0:26:20 | |
or if I tell I'm in Tesco's buying some dinner, | 0:26:20 | 0:26:22 | |
he just can't understand all that because as far as he's concerned | 0:26:22 | 0:26:26 | |
that's a woman's job and the man provides the money. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:29 | |
Remind us we've got to talk to those lads | 0:26:29 | 0:26:31 | |
that drive the van for the PGA Europe Hotel. I want them to go to Faro. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:35 | |
We're all very loud people, so sitting together around a table, | 0:26:35 | 0:26:40 | |
I think it's hilarious fun. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:42 | |
We are all trying to talk over each other, | 0:26:42 | 0:26:44 | |
everyone wants to tell | 0:26:44 | 0:26:46 | |
their own story, everyone wants to be heard. | 0:26:46 | 0:26:49 | |
Often, we're literally waiting for a gap in the conversation | 0:26:49 | 0:26:53 | |
to get our story in quickly before Dad or Ed wants to say their story. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:57 | |
In March 1995, another chapter in his remarkable sporting life began | 0:26:57 | 0:27:03 | |
when he bought Leyton Orient. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:05 | |
The East End football club he'd supported as a boy | 0:27:05 | 0:27:08 | |
had fallen on hard times. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:11 | |
I think it's really important to know where you come from. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:14 | |
I come from round here, and this is my football club. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:18 | |
I usually keep my heart opposite my wallet. | 0:27:18 | 0:27:20 | |
On that day, they merged. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:22 | |
I just thought I was there when I was 11, | 0:27:22 | 0:27:26 | |
you just don't forget those things. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:28 | |
When he first took Leyton Orient, he sent a letter asking me | 0:27:31 | 0:27:34 | |
if I'd like to donate £50,000 to Leyton Orient | 0:27:34 | 0:27:36 | |
and become one of their board of directors | 0:27:36 | 0:27:38 | |
and go to all the games and I could go in the boardroom | 0:27:38 | 0:27:40 | |
and have a sandwich with Barry and have a cup... | 0:27:40 | 0:27:42 | |
I was thinking, "Is this guy mad?" But he's a salesman, isn't he? That's what he does. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:46 | |
And I wrote back, "I'm Millwall through and through," | 0:27:46 | 0:27:49 | |
and just posted it back to him. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:51 | |
Football is full of people with fur coats and no knickers, you know? | 0:27:51 | 0:27:57 | |
Well that's not here. Here we live in the real world. | 0:27:57 | 0:27:59 | |
You know, I've never really liked government intervention, | 0:27:59 | 0:28:02 | |
but probably I could make a case that they should intervene in football because I think it's out of control. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:06 | |
Clubs spending money they don't have, | 0:28:06 | 0:28:09 | |
players earning a disproportionate salary | 0:28:09 | 0:28:11 | |
with regards to what's happening in the real world. | 0:28:11 | 0:28:15 | |
Football is not necessarily just about money. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:17 | |
He's transformed Orient's financial fortunes | 0:28:19 | 0:28:21 | |
with the help of some astute property deals, | 0:28:21 | 0:28:25 | |
but now he believes there is a new threat on the horizon | 0:28:25 | 0:28:28 | |
with local rivals West Ham United | 0:28:28 | 0:28:30 | |
a potential occupier of the nearby Olympic Stadium. | 0:28:30 | 0:28:34 | |
You know, we have a struggle going on with the Olympic Stadium, | 0:28:34 | 0:28:37 | |
which has been well-publicised. | 0:28:37 | 0:28:39 | |
We have the prospect of a massive club moving closer to us | 0:28:39 | 0:28:43 | |
and taking away our fan base. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:45 | |
And, you know, no-one seems to care really. | 0:28:45 | 0:28:47 | |
And that's very worrying. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:49 | |
Whoever moves in next door to Orient, | 0:28:51 | 0:28:54 | |
Barry will stand up for his club. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:57 | |
Throughout his career, he's had his fair share of fights, | 0:28:57 | 0:29:02 | |
although his biggest battle came in the early 1990s | 0:29:02 | 0:29:05 | |
when Matchroom was on the brink of going bust. | 0:29:05 | 0:29:08 | |
I think recessions always give businesses like mine a problem | 0:29:10 | 0:29:14 | |
if you're not established, and certainly in the '90s - | 0:29:14 | 0:29:18 | |
1990, 1991 time - was the toughest I've known. | 0:29:18 | 0:29:23 | |
There were plenty of times when I wondered, "How can we pay the wages?" | 0:29:23 | 0:29:27 | |
As a child, you just think everything is rosy. | 0:29:27 | 0:29:29 | |
Only now you, sort of, hear the stories and think, | 0:29:29 | 0:29:31 | |
"Wow, I didn't know that. Were we really? Blimey." | 0:29:31 | 0:29:34 | |
But those sort of times are important to remember | 0:29:34 | 0:29:37 | |
and he's always, sort of, installed that in us, | 0:29:37 | 0:29:39 | |
that things can go wrong at any time. | 0:29:39 | 0:29:41 | |
I had a major sponsor went bust on me and cost me a lot of money, | 0:29:41 | 0:29:46 | |
which we paid and we worked through it, | 0:29:46 | 0:29:49 | |
but it was two years of making you appreciate the good times. | 0:29:49 | 0:29:54 | |
For us as a family, I don't know, | 0:29:54 | 0:29:56 | |
I think we're quite, kind of, tough nuts, really. | 0:29:56 | 0:29:59 | |
Like, you know, you pick yourself up as a family | 0:29:59 | 0:30:03 | |
and every family has things to deal with | 0:30:03 | 0:30:07 | |
and you just stick close together and keep going, really. | 0:30:07 | 0:30:11 | |
I've always known Barry to be... | 0:30:11 | 0:30:14 | |
reasonably rich, shall we say. | 0:30:14 | 0:30:16 | |
If he was going skint, you would never know. He's a typical salesman. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:19 | |
Always got a nice suit on, always got a nice smile, | 0:30:19 | 0:30:22 | |
always a seat in the best places. So, you would never know. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:26 | |
I grafted. I grafted every day. | 0:30:26 | 0:30:29 | |
I knocked on more doors than a travelling salesman, | 0:30:29 | 0:30:33 | |
and I refused to accept that I was going to be in trouble. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:38 | |
It was a very good time for character-building | 0:30:38 | 0:30:42 | |
and finding out a little bit about yourself rather than other people. | 0:30:42 | 0:30:46 | |
And although it sounds big-headed, I liked what I found out. | 0:30:46 | 0:30:50 | |
MUSIC: "Five Feet High And Rising" by Johnny Cash | 0:30:50 | 0:30:52 | |
# How high's the water, momma Two feet high and rising... # | 0:30:52 | 0:30:55 | |
It's not all work and no play for Barry, | 0:30:55 | 0:30:59 | |
although he does make an art form of mixing the two. | 0:30:59 | 0:31:02 | |
To relax, he loves nothing more than a spot of fishing in the grounds of his Essex home | 0:31:02 | 0:31:07 | |
listening to Country and Western music | 0:31:07 | 0:31:09 | |
as he sits in his favourite old rocking-chair. | 0:31:09 | 0:31:12 | |
There's only carp in this lake, so... | 0:31:13 | 0:31:16 | |
61 carp, all of them related to me. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:20 | |
They are all my friends. It's a sad life. Every one is tagged. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:26 | |
I have a scanner, here, so I can tell each fish over the years, | 0:31:27 | 0:31:32 | |
how much weight they've put on. | 0:31:32 | 0:31:33 | |
They are all named after friends of mine, and I can recognise them now. | 0:31:33 | 0:31:37 | |
I write everything down. You know, typical accountant. Sad person. | 0:31:38 | 0:31:43 | |
I write every day's fishing down, | 0:31:43 | 0:31:45 | |
so I look back on the year after year how the weight's progressed. | 0:31:45 | 0:31:48 | |
Oh, Barry, that is so good. | 0:31:48 | 0:31:51 | |
It starts in '07 and every computer tag's there. | 0:31:51 | 0:31:53 | |
The original weight, the name of the fish, the type of the fish. | 0:31:53 | 0:31:58 | |
It's like creating another family. | 0:31:58 | 0:32:00 | |
# How high's the water, momma... # | 0:32:00 | 0:32:03 | |
People come here and fish and when they catch one they get to name a fish. | 0:32:03 | 0:32:06 | |
"The Power." "Davis" | 0:32:06 | 0:32:09 | |
Steve's kids, Greg and Jack. | 0:32:09 | 0:32:12 | |
Even Michelle, my PA, has got one. | 0:32:12 | 0:32:14 | |
# Chickens are sleeping In the willow trees... # | 0:32:14 | 0:32:18 | |
I get people saying to me now, you know, "How am I doing? | 0:32:18 | 0:32:20 | |
-"What do I weigh?" I say, "You're a fat -BLEEP." | 0:32:20 | 0:32:24 | |
# How high's the water, momma Four feet high and rising... # | 0:32:24 | 0:32:29 | |
When you're talking about relaxing, | 0:32:29 | 0:32:31 | |
when you're talking about creative thinking, | 0:32:31 | 0:32:34 | |
this is the place most of it's happened. | 0:32:34 | 0:32:37 | |
And, in a way, I realise I owe Steve Davis | 0:32:37 | 0:32:39 | |
an enormous debt for what he's added to my life | 0:32:39 | 0:32:43 | |
and other great sportsmen as well, Phil Taylor and Chris Eubank. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:47 | |
In a way, I perhaps owe fishing more even than I owe to them. | 0:32:47 | 0:32:51 | |
Most of my good ideas come... | 0:32:51 | 0:32:54 | |
..when I'm pure of thought down at the lake. | 0:32:55 | 0:32:58 | |
'It's the biggest prize in angling history | 0:32:58 | 0:33:00 | |
'and it's happening right here at Mallory Park | 0:33:00 | 0:33:03 | |
'in the heart of England.' | 0:33:03 | 0:33:04 | |
He's hooked in many with his ideas over the years, | 0:33:04 | 0:33:07 | |
but few as bizarre as this one. | 0:33:07 | 0:33:10 | |
When he first came to me with fishing, I didn't buy it. | 0:33:10 | 0:33:13 | |
I said, "Look, Barry. I go fishing, and course fishing, especially. | 0:33:13 | 0:33:19 | |
"It's a bunch of guys, mainly, | 0:33:19 | 0:33:21 | |
"sitting by a bank, waiting for something to happen. | 0:33:21 | 0:33:23 | |
How do you turn that into a spectator event?" He did it. | 0:33:23 | 0:33:28 | |
'You know, one good fish would win it for Lou, | 0:33:28 | 0:33:30 | |
'but he's got to get it in. Has he got time?' | 0:33:30 | 0:33:32 | |
Fish 'O' Mania was invented at a carp lake in Ockendon | 0:33:32 | 0:33:35 | |
the day after Wrestlemania. | 0:33:35 | 0:33:38 | |
That's where the name came from. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:40 | |
I went to see David Hill, running Sky at the time. | 0:33:40 | 0:33:42 | |
I said, "David, I think fishing." He said, "I like it." | 0:33:42 | 0:33:45 | |
I said, "I need six hours live." He said, "You're mad." | 0:33:45 | 0:33:48 | |
-Oh dear, look at his face. -That's Dickie Carr, our leader. | 0:33:48 | 0:33:51 | |
Unbelievable, tremendous tension here. | 0:33:51 | 0:33:55 | |
There's thousands sit around and watch blokes going like this. | 0:33:55 | 0:34:00 | |
Now how you sell that, he can sell anything to anybody, I think. | 0:34:00 | 0:34:04 | |
What's this, has Dickie got one? | 0:34:04 | 0:34:07 | |
-It looks as though he's had one and lost one. -Oh, no! | 0:34:07 | 0:34:09 | |
Those guys, when they fish, are so good. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:12 | |
They're as good as Tiger Woods when he plays golf. | 0:34:14 | 0:34:16 | |
We're 60 seconds away from the hooter here at Fish 'O' Mania. | 0:34:16 | 0:34:20 | |
And Turner, who has finished so strongly... | 0:34:20 | 0:34:22 | |
-Is that his fourth in the last ten minutes? -It's his fourth in the last ten minutes. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:26 | |
There isn't any other fishing on telly, of the sort that we do with Barry. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:30 | |
Fish 'O' Mania, for a whole day, | 0:34:30 | 0:34:33 | |
is a fabulous watch. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:35 | |
Yes, the skills are Barry, but let's not forget, | 0:34:35 | 0:34:38 | |
he picked up on it on the back of huge participation. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:40 | |
He knew there was a market there. | 0:34:40 | 0:34:42 | |
19 years later, it's the biggest fishing competition in the world. | 0:34:44 | 0:34:48 | |
For an angler, to appear even at the final, | 0:34:48 | 0:34:52 | |
established bank-side credibility for life. | 0:34:52 | 0:34:55 | |
Aside from fishing, he's helped revitalise a whole host of sports | 0:34:57 | 0:35:02 | |
and bring them to a wider TV audience. | 0:35:02 | 0:35:04 | |
His methods may sometimes be controversial | 0:35:04 | 0:35:08 | |
but he understands the needs of broadcasters, | 0:35:08 | 0:35:10 | |
particularly those with hours of programming to fill. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:14 | |
He comes up with a million ideas and he wants us to partner him | 0:35:14 | 0:35:18 | |
in taking every single one of them. | 0:35:18 | 0:35:20 | |
Some you'll chew the fat and you'll decide, that's not for us. | 0:35:20 | 0:35:24 | |
It won't stop him coming back saying, "Come on, we can really make this work." | 0:35:24 | 0:35:28 | |
He can make a persuasive case. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:29 | |
If he can see an angle and he can see a dollar sign at the end of it, | 0:35:29 | 0:35:33 | |
he will create something. | 0:35:33 | 0:35:36 | |
You only have to look at darts, you only have to look at snooker. | 0:35:36 | 0:35:39 | |
You have to look at... Boxing that he gets involved with. | 0:35:39 | 0:35:41 | |
He's got a really successful hit rate. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:43 | |
In 2001, Barry brought his unique management style | 0:35:43 | 0:35:48 | |
to yet another sport. | 0:35:48 | 0:35:49 | |
180! | 0:35:49 | 0:35:53 | |
As chairman of the Professional Darts Corporation, | 0:35:53 | 0:35:57 | |
his innovations have turned it into one of the unlikeliest | 0:35:57 | 0:36:00 | |
success stories of the last decade. | 0:36:00 | 0:36:02 | |
I'm still a control freak. I still hate committees. | 0:36:02 | 0:36:08 | |
I still believe in myself as almost a benevolent despot of sport. | 0:36:08 | 0:36:13 | |
I love that quote. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:15 | |
"I am the best in the world at what I do, in my opinion. | 0:36:16 | 0:36:18 | |
"which is the only opinion that I actually value!" | 0:36:18 | 0:36:22 | |
The sport he calls "working-class golf" now regularly | 0:36:25 | 0:36:31 | |
fills 10,000-seater stadia and the ultimate working man's game | 0:36:31 | 0:36:34 | |
attracts fans from all walks of life. | 0:36:34 | 0:36:36 | |
The Queen's granddaughter, Zara Phillips, | 0:36:38 | 0:36:40 | |
is the latest convert, turning up at the 2012 World final. | 0:36:40 | 0:36:45 | |
I think you'll have a special night. If you've not been before. | 0:36:45 | 0:36:49 | |
I wouldn't recommend you hold any signs up | 0:36:49 | 0:36:51 | |
-because it's a real giveaway. -Yeah. | 0:36:51 | 0:36:53 | |
I think, as far as his greatest achievements have to be, | 0:36:53 | 0:36:57 | |
I think darts has to be right up there. | 0:36:57 | 0:36:59 | |
When you go to a darts event, and you look around at the atmosphere, | 0:36:59 | 0:37:03 | |
you simply cannot fathom how this possibly happened. | 0:37:03 | 0:37:06 | |
You know, darts is a great game, but it's been around for years | 0:37:06 | 0:37:11 | |
and no-one's really embraced it, | 0:37:11 | 0:37:13 | |
but the atmosphere, and the environment | 0:37:13 | 0:37:16 | |
and the entertainment factor that he's brought into the game, is amazing. | 0:37:16 | 0:37:20 | |
-Listen, play well tonight, young man. -Cheers, thank you. -Play well. -Thank you. -See later, boy. | 0:37:20 | 0:37:24 | |
Since he came into darts, the prize-money has rocketed | 0:37:24 | 0:37:28 | |
from £500,000 to over £5 million a season. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:31 | |
For players such as Adrian "Jackpot" Lewis | 0:37:31 | 0:37:34 | |
and Andy "The Hammer" Hamilton, it's a path to undreamed of riches. | 0:37:34 | 0:37:38 | |
Play well, all right. Whatever happens, whatever happens... | 0:37:38 | 0:37:41 | |
-I'm still a winner. -Just do what you do. No, no, do what you do best. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:45 | |
-Yeah. -Don't give an inch and growl a lot. | 0:37:45 | 0:37:49 | |
A guy that spends six hours a day on the oche, learning his trade, | 0:37:49 | 0:37:53 | |
is as much a sportsman as any gold medal winner in the Olympics. | 0:37:53 | 0:37:57 | |
-Can you keep a secret? -Yeah. -I can. | 0:37:57 | 0:37:59 | |
Someone's just walked into a betting shop and laid £50,000, in cash, | 0:37:59 | 0:38:02 | |
-on Andy Hamilton to win. -Really? -Yeah. | 0:38:02 | 0:38:05 | |
-Amazing! -Do you know who it was? -I hope it wasn't Andy! | 0:38:05 | 0:38:08 | |
The actual job we've done on darts come from absolutely nowhere. | 0:38:10 | 0:38:14 | |
It has been one of the most motivating things in my life. | 0:38:14 | 0:38:18 | |
A lot of it is just old techniques that I've used, | 0:38:18 | 0:38:21 | |
all my life. You make the players famous. | 0:38:21 | 0:38:25 | |
It's... | 0:38:25 | 0:38:29 | |
..Hammer time! | 0:38:29 | 0:38:32 | |
Andy...Hamilton! | 0:38:32 | 0:38:34 | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:38:34 | 0:38:36 | |
Create an atmosphere that is conducive to people | 0:38:37 | 0:38:40 | |
just to forget about all their problems and enjoy themselves. | 0:38:40 | 0:38:45 | |
That's Barry Hearn's trick, really, is to take pub games | 0:38:47 | 0:38:52 | |
or marginal pastimes and turn them | 0:38:52 | 0:38:54 | |
into genuinely competitive sport, | 0:38:54 | 0:38:57 | |
certainly events, and getting people really interested. | 0:38:57 | 0:39:00 | |
He really, really has a knack for it. | 0:39:00 | 0:39:02 | |
180! | 0:39:02 | 0:39:03 | |
I would say the history of sport, the reinvention of darts, | 0:39:03 | 0:39:07 | |
is probably one of the greatest things in sport. | 0:39:07 | 0:39:09 | |
It was a sport that was seen as a bit dying. | 0:39:09 | 0:39:11 | |
It was blokes with fags and beer. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:15 | |
Now it's blokes with fags and beer that can't go on stage with those! | 0:39:15 | 0:39:18 | |
The event is fantastic. | 0:39:18 | 0:39:19 | |
100... | 0:39:19 | 0:39:22 | |
-I've got an idea. -What's this? | 0:39:22 | 0:39:23 | |
You should have, you know, like the baseball gloves with 180 on. | 0:39:23 | 0:39:27 | |
-Baseball gloves... Have you been... -You know like the hands. | 0:39:27 | 0:39:30 | |
-Barry, can we have a quick picture? -Have you been in promotions for long? | 0:39:30 | 0:39:34 | |
-No. -No, OK. | 0:39:34 | 0:39:35 | |
He's very outspoken, he's very honest and he'll say what he thinks | 0:39:35 | 0:39:38 | |
and what he feels. | 0:39:38 | 0:39:40 | |
Sometimes that's not always the general opinion. | 0:39:40 | 0:39:42 | |
So sometimes he can be controversial but he's genuinely just saying | 0:39:42 | 0:39:47 | |
what he believes in and most of the time that's generally for the good of the sport | 0:39:47 | 0:39:52 | |
that he's involved in, trying to move that forward. | 0:39:52 | 0:39:54 | |
The punters are the ones that tell you | 0:39:54 | 0:39:58 | |
if you've got something worthy, something that adds to their life. | 0:39:58 | 0:40:02 | |
Most people's lives are fairly mundane. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:04 | |
My job, as a sports promoter, is to give them moments | 0:40:05 | 0:40:09 | |
that they go to work thinking, "I had a cracking night last night." | 0:40:09 | 0:40:12 | |
Well done, girls. Well done. Take the rest of the night off. | 0:40:14 | 0:40:17 | |
I mean, listen, I love my job. | 0:40:19 | 0:40:20 | |
If this is work, I don't know what hard work is. | 0:40:20 | 0:40:24 | |
All right, boy, well done. | 0:40:24 | 0:40:27 | |
Great winner, great event and 50,000 punters going home | 0:40:27 | 0:40:30 | |
with a smile on their face having been royally entertained. | 0:40:30 | 0:40:33 | |
That's my job. | 0:40:33 | 0:40:34 | |
So it's another event over and time for a chill-out down by the lake. | 0:40:36 | 0:40:40 | |
It takes a lot to knock Barry off his stride. | 0:40:44 | 0:40:47 | |
A heart attack in 2001 briefly stopped him in his tracks. | 0:40:47 | 0:40:51 | |
While his workload remains prolific, he always takes time now to unwind. | 0:40:51 | 0:40:57 | |
When he had his heart attack many years ago, | 0:41:00 | 0:41:02 | |
I think that might have put a different slant on his life. | 0:41:02 | 0:41:06 | |
In the early days when things were tight here, and tough here, | 0:41:06 | 0:41:09 | |
that was a very stressful period. | 0:41:09 | 0:41:11 | |
Certainly, in the last 15 years, and as every day goes on, | 0:41:11 | 0:41:16 | |
I see him care less about the worry and the panic | 0:41:16 | 0:41:20 | |
and understanding what matters in life and what doesn't. Business matters, but family matters more. | 0:41:20 | 0:41:26 | |
This is my other house, I suppose. It's a bit smaller. | 0:41:26 | 0:41:30 | |
I sleep there, if I fish all night. | 0:41:31 | 0:41:33 | |
I wake up in the morning and cook my breakfast. No-one disturbs me. | 0:41:34 | 0:41:40 | |
Then, every now and again, | 0:41:40 | 0:41:41 | |
we get some friends down and we fish for the trophy. | 0:41:41 | 0:41:45 | |
It's very competitive. | 0:41:45 | 0:41:47 | |
But, you know, this is an escape from the real world. | 0:41:47 | 0:41:50 | |
I think he's probably mellowed a little bit, | 0:41:50 | 0:41:53 | |
the last couple of years. | 0:41:53 | 0:41:54 | |
He probably fishes a bit more, relaxes a little bit more | 0:41:54 | 0:41:57 | |
and spending a bit more time at home. | 0:41:57 | 0:42:00 | |
He's still got the same work ethic that he's always had. | 0:42:00 | 0:42:03 | |
You come down here with no e-mails, no phones, | 0:42:03 | 0:42:08 | |
no-one disturbing you, no-one giving you grief | 0:42:08 | 0:42:12 | |
and as you get older you start appreciating your environment | 0:42:12 | 0:42:15 | |
a little bit more. | 0:42:15 | 0:42:17 | |
I've often thought, if we could get the kids in the streets, in the inner cities, | 0:42:17 | 0:42:21 | |
to go fishing there would be a lot less trouble in the world. | 0:42:21 | 0:42:24 | |
Now he seems to just have this attitude of everything | 0:42:24 | 0:42:29 | |
is going to be all right, nothing is a problem. | 0:42:29 | 0:42:31 | |
That puts everyone at ease and that's a real great talent to have. | 0:42:31 | 0:42:37 | |
He may be more relaxed, but there's no sign of him slowing down. | 0:42:37 | 0:42:42 | |
Are we going downstairs? | 0:42:42 | 0:42:44 | |
As he approaches pension age, | 0:42:44 | 0:42:45 | |
Barry finds himself running the sport where it all began. | 0:42:45 | 0:42:50 | |
He's not really the kind of person you could tell to slow down. | 0:42:50 | 0:42:54 | |
I mean, he puts so much passion into everything. | 0:42:54 | 0:42:56 | |
He's quite fun to be around. I don't want him to slow down. | 0:42:56 | 0:43:01 | |
That's what drives him and that's what fires him. | 0:43:01 | 0:43:03 | |
He's got to pick up the trophy, it weighs a ton. | 0:43:03 | 0:43:06 | |
Yeah, yeah... | 0:43:06 | 0:43:07 | |
When you're laying out on that slab, don't have any regrets. | 0:43:07 | 0:43:10 | |
Don't use that word "if". | 0:43:10 | 0:43:12 | |
"If I'd have done this, I should have done that. Maybe." | 0:43:12 | 0:43:15 | |
I hate these words. You know, I want people who are definite. | 0:43:15 | 0:43:19 | |
I want people who are explosive. | 0:43:19 | 0:43:20 | |
If you make a bad call, make it 100%, don't make it 50%. | 0:43:20 | 0:43:25 | |
Don't start looking over your shoulder and saying, "I should have done it." | 0:43:25 | 0:43:29 | |
Do it or shut up! | 0:43:29 | 0:43:31 | |
-Hi, Barry. -How are you? -Not so bad, yourself? Barry? | 0:43:31 | 0:43:34 | |
-Yeah. -You know this, Q Zone, can we improve it with the lighting? | 0:43:34 | 0:43:37 | |
-I'm sure there's loads we can improve it. -Cheers, Barry. | 0:43:37 | 0:43:40 | |
We're constantly thinking about it. Where are we going? | 0:43:40 | 0:43:42 | |
From the peak of its popularity in the 1980s, | 0:43:42 | 0:43:45 | |
snooker was a sport in decline. | 0:43:45 | 0:43:47 | |
In 2009, the players invited Barry to run the game | 0:43:47 | 0:43:52 | |
and he made it clear from the start it would be his way, or no way. | 0:43:52 | 0:43:56 | |
Arms first, handshake second. You'll get the hang of that. | 0:43:56 | 0:43:59 | |
The game was so moribund, so defunct of ideas, | 0:44:00 | 0:44:04 | |
so lacking innovation and I thought to myself, "This is an opportunity, | 0:44:04 | 0:44:08 | |
"a game fate has dealt me which would be a sin to turn away from." | 0:44:08 | 0:44:14 | |
I think he truly thought that snooker was dying | 0:44:15 | 0:44:18 | |
and it was dead but, all of a sudden, he spotted how much interest there was worldwide. | 0:44:18 | 0:44:22 | |
My report finished with, "In my view, I should take over the game." | 0:44:24 | 0:44:29 | |
Fortunately, just enough players agreed with me. | 0:44:29 | 0:44:32 | |
What he's done for snooker has been amazing. | 0:44:32 | 0:44:35 | |
You know, it was that bad I went into the jungle four years ago | 0:44:35 | 0:44:38 | |
and now he's got it up to the top sport it should be. | 0:44:38 | 0:44:42 | |
Why are the crowds up? Is it down to the marketing or is it down to Judd Trump coming along? | 0:44:42 | 0:44:47 | |
It's a little bit of both but mainly it's the king has no clothes. | 0:44:47 | 0:44:50 | |
Yeah, yeah. | 0:44:50 | 0:44:52 | |
-If people believe things are happening the average fan will go along and have a look at it. -Yeah. | 0:44:52 | 0:44:56 | |
When they go and look at it they'll say, "It's been quite a good night." | 0:44:56 | 0:44:59 | |
I've enjoyed myself with the snooker. | 0:44:59 | 0:45:00 | |
It's been so much fun because I've been able to blow it all up and start again. | 0:45:00 | 0:45:05 | |
You know, as a sport that really wasn't going anywhere. There was a lethargy in the sport. | 0:45:05 | 0:45:10 | |
We've just taken hold of it and dragged it screaming into the 21st century. | 0:45:10 | 0:45:14 | |
Please welcome Shaun "The Magician" Murphy! | 0:45:14 | 0:45:19 | |
Barry introduced the walk-on music, I think that's great. | 0:45:21 | 0:45:24 | |
Great for the game. They have it in darts and that. | 0:45:24 | 0:45:27 | |
Something a little bit different, there's nothing wrong with it. | 0:45:27 | 0:45:30 | |
"The Thunder from Down Under," | 0:45:30 | 0:45:32 | |
Neil Robertson! | 0:45:32 | 0:45:34 | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:45:34 | 0:45:37 | |
I think there's been a buzz about the game, without a doubt. | 0:45:37 | 0:45:39 | |
Obviously, we've seen many more events put on throughout the whole world. | 0:45:39 | 0:45:43 | |
Obviously, new events, high-speed events | 0:45:43 | 0:45:45 | |
with more crowd participation. | 0:45:45 | 0:45:47 | |
So, yeah, it's what the game needed. | 0:45:49 | 0:45:52 | |
The game needed a kick up the backside. | 0:45:52 | 0:45:54 | |
Excellent! Nice intros. | 0:45:54 | 0:45:56 | |
In recent months, there have been signs of dissent in the ranks. | 0:45:56 | 0:45:59 | |
Mark Allen was fined after complaining about the changes | 0:45:59 | 0:46:03 | |
being made and declared snooker, was "going to pot". | 0:46:03 | 0:46:07 | |
He even called for Barry to resign. | 0:46:07 | 0:46:09 | |
Mark Allen did speak out at the UK Championships | 0:46:09 | 0:46:12 | |
and he did say that a lot of other players were feeling the same. | 0:46:12 | 0:46:15 | |
So, Mark was the spokesman. Pretty brave of him to take Barry on. | 0:46:15 | 0:46:20 | |
That's how he felt. | 0:46:20 | 0:46:23 | |
We need people that make headlines. | 0:46:23 | 0:46:27 | |
Now, it's got to be, obviously, with some common sense involved, as well. | 0:46:27 | 0:46:32 | |
I often engage my mouth before I concentrate on my brain. | 0:46:32 | 0:46:37 | |
You know, this is a failing. | 0:46:37 | 0:46:38 | |
I know a few of the players have been moaning a bit | 0:46:41 | 0:46:43 | |
about the PTC events, especially the first prize is £10,000. | 0:46:43 | 0:46:47 | |
People like Ronnie O'Sullivan, you know, he would have to give up | 0:46:47 | 0:46:50 | |
a weekend and have to win the tournament to break even. | 0:46:50 | 0:46:55 | |
It's trying to reach a happy medium but they've got plenty of snooker to play, that's for sure. | 0:46:55 | 0:46:59 | |
I think we got into a rut of having | 0:47:02 | 0:47:03 | |
only six, seven or eight tournaments in every season | 0:47:03 | 0:47:06 | |
and we got used to that. | 0:47:06 | 0:47:08 | |
Now, we've gone from one extreme to the other. | 0:47:08 | 0:47:10 | |
I mean, there's talk of a tournament every other week, somewhere in the world. | 0:47:10 | 0:47:14 | |
Physically you can't keep doing that because you'll get burned out, eventually. | 0:47:14 | 0:47:17 | |
I never have any sympathy for anyone who goes to work, you know. | 0:47:20 | 0:47:24 | |
I have sympathy for those that can't go to work, or find a job. | 0:47:24 | 0:47:26 | |
So, professional sportsmen saying to me, "I'm too busy," really falls on a deaf ear. | 0:47:26 | 0:47:33 | |
Your champion, Neil Robertson! | 0:47:33 | 0:47:36 | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:47:36 | 0:47:38 | |
Sorry! | 0:47:40 | 0:47:42 | |
Please tell me I don't have to go to Crondon Park tomorrow morning. | 0:47:42 | 0:47:45 | |
You do! | 0:47:45 | 0:47:47 | |
All the players realise he doesn't really care what our opinions are about most things. | 0:47:47 | 0:47:52 | |
He's just going to do it, what he thinks is best for the game. | 0:47:52 | 0:47:55 | |
We've got to be along for the ride, basically. | 0:47:55 | 0:47:57 | |
The champion has to be at Crondon Park golf course tomorrow at 12 o'clock to play. | 0:48:00 | 0:48:04 | |
He said, "Please tell me I don't have to be at Crondon Park tomorrow. I said, "I'm afraid you do." | 0:48:04 | 0:48:08 | |
I'm never going to do everything that pleases everybody because that would be unnatural. | 0:48:08 | 0:48:12 | |
I do things that please the sport. | 0:48:12 | 0:48:14 | |
He gets fined if he doesn't turn up so he knows he's got to do it. | 0:48:14 | 0:48:18 | |
So far, it's not ten out of ten. | 0:48:18 | 0:48:20 | |
It 9.5. | 0:48:20 | 0:48:22 | |
I'm getting the other half next year. | 0:48:22 | 0:48:24 | |
The trouble is we didn't have that BBC logo on the bagel. | 0:48:24 | 0:48:26 | |
I've told you about that. | 0:48:26 | 0:48:28 | |
We'll think about that in the morning. | 0:48:28 | 0:48:31 | |
Will he turn it around? | 0:48:31 | 0:48:32 | |
Guaranteed he'll turn it around and the snooker players | 0:48:32 | 0:48:35 | |
of the next generation will have a far higher prize pool to play for. | 0:48:35 | 0:48:39 | |
If snooker has a chance of succeeding, then Barry's the right man. | 0:48:41 | 0:48:45 | |
Whether snooker has a chance, I'm not utterly convinced. | 0:48:45 | 0:48:49 | |
The world is possibly too quick now for snooker. | 0:48:49 | 0:48:52 | |
One more beer and a glass of red wine, please. | 0:48:52 | 0:48:54 | |
Snooker is a part of my life that I think I can do something for | 0:48:54 | 0:48:58 | |
and it'll do something for me. | 0:48:58 | 0:49:00 | |
It keeps me alive. | 0:49:00 | 0:49:02 | |
If I was any better, I would fail a drugs test. | 0:49:02 | 0:49:06 | |
It keeps me wanting to go to work every morning, | 0:49:06 | 0:49:09 | |
earlier and work later. | 0:49:09 | 0:49:11 | |
You know, that's the best way to cure a recession. Just work longer hours. | 0:49:11 | 0:49:15 | |
It works! | 0:49:15 | 0:49:17 | |
So, the future is looking good and there'll be a few bumps along the way. | 0:49:17 | 0:49:22 | |
There'll be a few people disagreeing with me. That's OK. | 0:49:22 | 0:49:25 | |
We can all disagree. | 0:49:25 | 0:49:26 | |
We'll have a chat about it and then we'll do what I want! | 0:49:26 | 0:49:30 | |
# It's my life | 0:49:31 | 0:49:33 | |
# And it's now or never | 0:49:33 | 0:49:35 | |
# Ain't gonna live forever! | 0:49:35 | 0:49:39 | |
# I just wanna live while I'm alive | 0:49:39 | 0:49:43 | |
# It's my life... # | 0:49:43 | 0:49:46 | |
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