Barry Hearn: The People's Promoter


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Better to be born lucky than good-looking. I had my share of luck,

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but the skill, if there is any, is taking advantage of that luck.

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Barry Hearn is one of the most powerful men in world sport.

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Top drawer, top drawer.

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He's come from a council estate in Dagenham

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and he's built his life up and his career up from nothing.

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He's managed some of the biggest sports stars of the last four decades.

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Pound for pound, he's delivered more excitement

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to the punter in the street than any other promoter.

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He's transformed working men's pastimes into primetime TV.

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'Barry is one of those larger-than-life characters.'

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He's a Jack-the-lad.

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If Barry was chocolate he would eat himself. He does love himself.

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The geezer on the right is better looking than the geezer on the left!

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I'm a showman. That's what I do.

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He's made millions, lost millions, and made millions again.

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What a boy, eh?

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I'm really proud of everything my dad's done.

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What you see is what you get.

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A wheeler, a dealer, a charmer and a chancer, the boy done good.

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Play well!

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He's great at making you feel good in yourself.

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You-u-u cheeky chappy!

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He definitely, 100% is, the people's promoter.

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# ..all right

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# Jumpin' Jack Flash is a gas, gas, gas. #

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# Out of the tree of life I just picked me a plum. #

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There's certain times when you look in the mirror and say to yourself,

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privately, "You know what? You're pretty good."

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The shoulders go back, the chest comes out and says, "Bazza, nice one."

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# ..it's a real good bet the best is yet to come. #

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Barry is in the south of France.

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He's here to make deals and find new buyers for some of the 2,000 hours

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of televised sport his Matchroom company produce every year.

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He is the ultimate travelling salesman.

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# ..but you ain't seen it shine. #

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Doesn't get much better than this, does it?

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I mean, this is supposed to be work, you know, so, yeah, fantastic.

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Obviously a great place.

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Hub of activity and, you know, this particular trade festival

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probably represents 80% of your annual business.

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A bit like Christmas but in the sports business. It's Christmas Day.

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We need to come up with probably somewhere around 300,000 US to do a major.

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A lot of people accuse me of being a bit of a barrow boy, sometimes.

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Well, this is my element. You know, I can stand up and offer, you know...

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different deals on different programmes.

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The dream is this relationship evolves into a major, televised, global event.

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'The workload that he gets through day in, day out, is not human.'

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That's really what I'm after, yeah.

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'But he's always coming out with wacky ideas,'

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and you tend to hear the idea and laugh, and then you start thinking

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about it and you think, "He might have a point there, you know."

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There are areas in...

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'We start off with the criteria - if I don't like it, we don't do it.'

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'I'm sure that'll change when my kids run the business'

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and I'm sort of somewhere else.

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But, for the moment, if Bazza don't like it, it don't happen.

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It's a bit like going to your dentist.

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You know, the secret of going to your dentist is

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you grab his testicles, look him in the eyes

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and say, "Now, neither of us are going to hurt each other, are we?"

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'Any one year we will spend a considerable amount of time'

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looking at maybe five or six new opportunities.

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And some of the crazier ones...

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We looked at the World Crazy Golf Championships.

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And everyone says, "You can see Tiger Woods playing one off the windmill."

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Things like that, and you say, "How bizarre would that be?"

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'For one reason or another it doesn't happen.

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'I mean, currently, we're looking at ping-pong.

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'I mean, 300 million people play ping pong.'

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Why can't we turn it into the next darts?

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'It's like going to a restaurant.

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'Do we eat the hors d'oeuvre before the main course,

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'or do we eat the main course first?

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'It depends how hungry you are sometimes,

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'and it depends if you have enough money for the hors d'oeuvre as well.'

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I know it sends big-headed, but I think I'm the best.

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Thank you very much. Too strong for me.

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'Every day, there's a spring in my step. I'm happy to be alive.'

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And, you know, listen, can I sit here, honestly, and complain about anything?

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Right. Who's next?

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Down in the harbour, Barry has hired a boat.

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He's holding a private party for clients and customers.

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Helping him charm his guests is one of the top sports stars he manages -

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darts legend, Phil "The Power" Taylor.

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OK, can I wish everyone the best of luck,

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cos you know you've got no chance of winning it.

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You're now playing at the table with one of the world's greats.

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'He went out twice last...

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'Basically, I'm here to support Barry,

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'and to be honest, have a good time.'

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It's a nice little break for me because I don't get a chance

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to do things like this.

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Where would a little council house wally be on a nice boat like this?

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It's unbelievable.

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-Oh, we've got a pot!

-Three players.

-Three players!

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Three players and a pot.

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'I don't think I've met a more positive person, definitely,

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-'than my dad.'

-You may need a bit of help here!

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'I haven't met someone, really, I think,'

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that is more fun to be around.

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And I think most people would say that that know him as well.

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To be honest with you, it's like a man playing with children!

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He's great at mingling, he's great at making people feel very, very special.

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When he grabbed hold of me I was nothing, really.

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And he made me feel like a world champion.

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And he's probably one of the only people that has ever done that.

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-Susan, watch out!

-Oh-oh, danger!

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'I've never seen him down.

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'If I lose tournament, you know,'

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"Come on, boy! Doesn't matter, you'll win the next one." So, you're up all the time.

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You know, you're always feeling good about yourself.

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'He breathes energy in you and that's why he's been so successful.'

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# Cheerio and come back soon!

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# Cos you know how much we miss you! #

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Tonight is all about mixing business with pleasure,

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although for the host with the most

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there's no difference between the two.

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When I was young I used to lie all the time

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and I used to make a shed load of money by lying.

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Now you're old you tell the truth and you feel cleansed! You know?

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In our business we've been brown nosing people for so many years -

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it's a waste of time!

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'I still consider myself working class, you know, I'm a worker.

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'And I don't see why normal, ordinary guys don't rule the world

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'and that's our aim.'

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You know, I think our sports can take over the world

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because everybody plays them.

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The darts is only 10 years old

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but the snooker, two years ago they came to me and said,

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"Look, we're not getting anywhere," MAN LAUGHS

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so I put the deal together and I bought the whole lot.

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-What's the biggest?

-It's the biggest in China.

-In China?!

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-There's a 100,000 full-time players in China now.

-Wow.

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There's more snooker clubs in Shanghai

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than the rest of the world added together!

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Oh, my God.

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There may well be thousands of snooker clubs in China

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but the most important one for Barry is tucked away in Romford, in Essex.

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The decision to buy this place in the mid-'70s

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would change his life for ever.

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'Fate is a very strange thing, you know.'

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Certain things just seemed destined to happen.

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You know, I don't know why, I never played snooker before.

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I'd never held a snooker cue

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but I bought the snooker halls, actually, as a property investment.

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-All right?

-Morning, morning.

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'But as soon as I bought them

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'the BBC put snooker on to mainstream television

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'and suddenly there was queues of people trying to play snooker.

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'And everyone said to me, "You're a genius! How did you do it?"

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'Do you know what? It was pure luck.'

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Right place, right time,

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is so much more important than being brain of Britain.

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Misspent youth? I don't think so.

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It wasn't long before he began promoting his own events.

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Attracting players from all over the south-east,

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including a tongue-tied teenager from London.

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-The ball in the holes bit is where you get the points from.

-OK.

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-I'll smash them up for you.

-What, no respect?

-Well...

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Do you know, that is a typical Davis safety shot!

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# The best things in life are free

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# But you can give them to the birds and bees... #

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'The cream on the cake was when the best player in the world walked in

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'and said, "Can I play in one of your competitions?" And...'

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at the time, I had no idea how good he was, of course.

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I didn't know anything about snooker.

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All I saw was someone who was young, very dedicated...

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you know, totally devoid of personality, charisma...

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-Here we go, here we go, here we go!

-Actually, nothing's changed!

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-Here we go!

-Nothing's changed! THEY SNIGGER

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This is giving me hope.

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You are proving that I am actually quite good!

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-Do you know what? I might take this game up.

-No, don't take it up!

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'I was a pretty shy young lad with a snooker cue and Barry came along.

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'Obviously, he was the market salesman, brash,'

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you know, bit of a geezer and a bit like that.

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But, funnily enough, erm, you could be in awe of Barry

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'if you'd not met him but, usually, once you meet him,'

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you realise there's a genuine enthusiasm there that rubs off on you.

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'In those early days we were a sort of marriage made in heaven

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'because Steve had the ability, I had the front

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'and I never EVER, in 35 years,'

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told this man what ball he should pot next.

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Well, you can see why.

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And I don't think he's ever told me,

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you know, what the deal I should do next.

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Every day of his life he's always been enthusiastic

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and you can't help but be carried along downstream with him.

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And so, in the dressing room, in between events and matches,

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great person to have in your corner.

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You walked out, you had steam coming out your nostrils

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and you are fired up because he was fired up.

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-COMMENTATOR:

-I'm sure, as the years go by, you will see him,

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as I hope to, wear the world crown.

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CHEERING

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'Steve and I would sit and discuss

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'what it's going to be like to win the world title'

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and we would plan what's the speech afterwards,

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and how is it going to be, and what's the opportunities that will exist.

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We'd have tears, literally tears,

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rolling down our cheeks, thinking of it.

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'The emotion of actually achieving your goal.

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'We were so committed to winning.'

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-COMMENTATOR:

-He's breathing heavily as he comes down to this final pink.

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-CHEERING

-And that's it, the world snooker champion 1981, Steve Davis.

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'He got down on the straight pink

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'and the next thing I knew was the pink was in the hole

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'and I was hitting him with almost a rugby tackle

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'that would have knocked most people over!

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I can't describe the feeling. To this day,

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I get a lump in my throat thinking about it.

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It was the best feeling.

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Amazing emotion and it was like us against the world,

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the boys had done good.

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I think I was in the back snivelling with Barry giving it everything.

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He was like that, he was just 100% all the time.

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There was a closed shop in snooker 30 years ago

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and this upstart comes in with a loudmouth manager.

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What do they know?

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Actually, we know how to win and we'll show you

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and everybody else that this is the start of a new era.

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TV VOICEOVER: 'The man who manages Steve Davis

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'and two other giants of the green baize,

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'Terry Griffiths and Tony Meo, is Barry Hearn,

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'known justifiably as snooker's Mr Big.'

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It was an evolution.

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You have to bear in mind that I had no idea what I was doing.

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Hello.

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'Everything was like Columbus.'

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Del, how are you?

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'We were finding things out about ourselves, about the industry,'

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daily, hourly sometimes.

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Well done, Terry, well done, my son.

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Snooker's popularity went through the roof.

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Only royal weddings, soap operas

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and the odd sitcom attracted more TV viewers.

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In 1985, over 18 million tuned in to see Dennis Taylor

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dramatically snatch the world crown.

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He's done it.

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CHEERING

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Barry, after I beat Steve Davis

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signed me up, which was quite amazing.

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At this time, he was the main man.

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He was looking after Steve Davis, Terry Griffiths, Tony Meo,

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Jimmy White and with Willie Thorne.

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All the ones that featured on Snooker Loopy with Chas and Dave.

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# Snooker loopy nuts are we

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# Me and him and them and me...#

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The nation went nuts over snooker.

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It even had its own sing-along soundtrack with Barry conducting

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the unlikeliest boy band ever assembled.

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I went to the filming of it at my dad's office.

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I've got a very vivid recollection of Tony Meo with a plate of pasta.

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I think it's great.

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I love it and I love it that my dad

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got to be on Top of the Pops and everything.

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It was the superstar treatment

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that ordinary blokes can only dream about.

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In those days, all the snooker players,

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we were living the dream and we made loads of money.

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But we didn't stop laughing.

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# Celebrate, I'd buy another eight,

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# Hairbrushes for me barnet...#

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We did a variety of Matchroom products

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which I look back on now...

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Frightening, so frightening.

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I cringed at the Matchroom slippers.

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It's wild and hey, we'll do some silly things,

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let's create our own fragrance.

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The Matchroom aftershave was moving on into another level.

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For me, it was... I thought we were getting a bit poncey by that time,

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moving into that world.

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Building those personalities, this was all part of a plan.

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We got everybody together and I can remember saying to Terry Griffiths,

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"You're Welsh, you just sing along."

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"Dennis, you tell jokes, you're the funny Irishman."

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# Cos he's got the rest of us signed up...#

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"Steve, you're the boring one, you just sip water."

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They all created a character and it became like a soap opera.

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It was almost Coronation Street with balls.

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Meet Willie Thorne, snooker's maximum man

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with an astonishing 62 maximum breaks to his credit.

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Jimmy White, snooker's wild man

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and probably the most naturally gifted player

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in the professional snooker world.

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He managed me twice for two lots of five years at a time.

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I was a bit of a lad in them days and sometimes he couldn't find me.

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He was always saying,

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"What are you doing? "Why are you wasting your time?"

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We're pals all the time.

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People criticise the Matchroom like they criticise Everton and Liverpool.

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The thing is, it's all down to winning

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and that's what we have done all year.

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That's what we'll do next year, the year after and the year after that.

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With his stable of stars dominating the game,

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he was now the most powerful man in snooker and the most outspoken.

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Everybody in the game,

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other than the people Barry was managing and promoting

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hated him with a passion.

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He was coming out with things they didn't want to hear.

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The role I see for the Matchroom professionals,

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other than winning everything and spreading the game across the world,

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is almost to act as a watchdog

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and if we feel the governing body is making mistakes,

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just have a little discussion with them.

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Barry's style would be too brash for some people.

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He was also treading on the patch

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of our Association by putting

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events on and they started to put up barriers against him

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progressing within the game.

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This is a serious business. There's a lot of money here

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and we're talking about things like splitting up prize-money.

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This room, apart from myself, of course,

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they all grossed £2.5 million this season.

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'We had years of dominance, followed by'

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lots of problems with the governing body that didn't really want me

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to be in business. They wanted to do it themselves.

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Unfortunately, they didn't have the ability to do it themselves.

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After a while, because of my personality and nature,

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I wanted to do other things as well as snooker

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and in the middle to late '80s I decided,

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you know what, I think I'll be a boxing promoter!

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COMMENTATOR: White Hart Lane claims its place

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in British boxing history by staging the richest ever fight

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held in Europe - Frank Bruno versus Joe Bugner -

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a £3 million bonanza that's about to happen.

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Having conquered snooker,

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boxing was next on Barry's hit list.

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His first venture into the fight game

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was to set up a heavyweight battle of epic proportions.

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'I decided if I was going to do it, I got to do something big.'

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My ego wouldn't let me do anything small.

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So the ultimate ticket-selling fight -

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everybody loved Frank Bruno,

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everybody hated Joe Bugner - and you know,

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it made a lot of money.

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CROWD ROARS

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Barry offered us the fight

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and I didn't believe him. I didn't think he could deliver.

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Greg Dyke was really funny, you know.

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He's the only man in my life that ever, in television, paid me

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more than I asked for, because he didn't believe I could deliver.

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He said we could have it for 200 grand,

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which I thought was... If you could get it for 200 grand,

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it was a steal.

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My worry was that he couldn't get it.

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So I offered him more. I said, "If you can get this

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"I'll give you more. I'll give you a quarter of a million."

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CROWD ROARS

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COMMENTATOR: He's going to let him box on.

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And he's pinned in Bruno's corner

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and it won't go surely now.

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I pride myself on always delivering.

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BELL RINGS

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The towel has come in from the Australian's corner.

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When I say something, wrong or right,

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I honestly believe that and when I give you my hand, you take my heart.

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With me a contract is fine,

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but if I give my word to something, I'd rather die than lose that.

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A quarter of a century on from that first fight, Barry is still

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heavily involved in the sport.

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-Dressing room's upstairs?

-Yes.

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-The fighters' dressing room is upstairs?

-Yes.

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He's managed more than 30 world champions

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and promoted over 500 fights

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and in that time, he's not taken too many wrong turns.

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Sorry!

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Think it must be this one!

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Who's in where?

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He understands how to make something seem exciting.

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He understands

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that having an event in itself isn't enough.

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You have to build it up and you have to make it

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into a spectacular.

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-Good performance. So far, good performance. Well done.

-Thanks a lot.

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You got plenty in the crowd with you, son. Box well, yeah?

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He understands what the public,

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particularly the male public, will watch.

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And that was always the genius, really.

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One of the most successful ideas

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to shake up boxing has been Prizefighter -

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an eight-man contest fought over one night of three-round bouts,

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with the last man standing picking up a big cheque.

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The punters may love it, but the purists aren't so sure.

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It's just something I've never got into, though I've had two boxers

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who have gone and one Prizefighter

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and both won £32,000 each

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and obviously I've taken my management percentage,

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so I have earned out of it,

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but to me, it's not boxing,

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it's not what a traditional boxing person likes

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and I'm a traditional boxing person.

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CROWD ROARS

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Everyone's always said,

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"I know your father. I've worked with him for years.

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"He's one of the straightest men in boxing"

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and that's actually quite nice to hear.

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And that's something he's always instilled in us. That whole time.

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"Do things properly, be upfront with people, tell them the truth.

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"Nothing can ever come back to us."

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I've always found him to be fair. If he says

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he's going to pay me a pound, he'll pay me a pound.

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If he makes £1.20, that's down to him,

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he don't tell you about the 20p. He tells you about the pound he's promised.

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But everything he always says he does deliver,

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that I'll say about him, unlike a lot of people in boxing.

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I know how to beat him, but...

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-Another three rounds, might have been the difference.

-Yeah, yeah.

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Once you close that distance.

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'I always wanted to be Heavyweight Champion of the World as a youngster.

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'I unfortunately had no ability,'

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but never lost my love of the sport

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and my respect for the people who do it. It is the toughest game of all.

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I felt that!

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Put me right off me pork pie!

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Even today, we look forward to the careers

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of some of the young fighters we've got.

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When I think about it I'm buzzing.

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We'll be in Vegas.

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We're going to take the title.

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We're going to beat up everybody.

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We're going to rock the world.

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# Don't call it a comeback

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# I've been here for years

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# Rockin' my peers... #

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Back in the early '90s, Barry was the king of British boxing,

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managing the most explosive talent of the era -

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Christopher Livingstone Eubank.

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# I'm going to knock you out

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# Mama said knock you out

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# I'm going to knock you out

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# Mama said knock you out. #

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As he had done with Davis in snooker,

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he formed a very close bond with his latest sporting protege.

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It proved to be an intense relationship.

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I loved Eubank, no question.

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I think he's a very special guy.

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I mean he's infuriating, he's eccentric, slightly mad,

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but I would not have swapped a minute

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with Chris Eubank.

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I don't know if Barry really knows it, but I think

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I actually discovered Chris Eubank.

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His first couple of fights were on my shows

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and he came to see me.

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We fell out over a cup of Earl Grey tea.

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He wanted Earl Grey tea and I only had ordinary tea in the office.

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The next thing I knew he signed with Barry Hearn and him

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and Barry were a good partnership.

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You had the showman and you had the ringmaster.

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CROWD ROARS

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'Ronnie Davies was Eubank's trainer.'

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I think it's fair to say Ronnie Davies and me

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would have taken a bullet for Eubank

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on the way into the ring.

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CROWD ROARS

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That's an intensity that sounds simple,

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but I'm serious.

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We would have taken a bullet for that man.

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This man is, somehow,

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I think, his heart is good. I don't know why it's good.

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I mean, you don't find promoters with good hearts.

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They usually use fighters as meat.

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This man gives a fair deal.

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The Hearn name continues to be a powerful

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and influential one in the sport,

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but it's son Eddie who is now the more prominent promoter in boxing.

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I'm always going to be Barry Hearn's son.

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That's fine, I'm proud to be it, but what he's always instilled in me is

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a working-class attitude and that's something that will never leave me.

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So, I get up every morning, you know, I spend time with my daughter. I go to work.

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I work my cods off all day. Advice comes from him all the time.

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You know, he always says to me,

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which is something that always stands out to me in business is,

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"Always leave a bit of bread in the fish's mouth".

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Greed is a very dangerous thing, not just in business, but in life.

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It just makes you think, yeah, maybe you're right, you know. Don't just go for the kill straight off.

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Like Barry, the business has come a long way.

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Yeah, we've got our very high standards and if the team we've got

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don't come up with their standards, then we'll change the team.

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Set up in an office beneath Romford's Snooker Club back in 1982,

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Matchroom Sport is now based in the Essex mansion

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where his children Katie and Eddie grew up.

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And he's aiming to keep it in the family

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as he begins to hand over the reins.

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Just drop a note to Art Pellulo and say,

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"Dear Art, what are you doing with Pirog?"

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I mean, there's high standards because Dad did it from nothing.

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It's a tough one for them to come in and say,

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now you take it to the next level, but I think it's always tough

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for kids to follow in their father's footsteps, you know,

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who's done pretty good for a youngster from nowhere.

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Not quite nowhere.

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Blitz-damaged Dagenham was where Barry

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came into the world on the 19th June 1948.

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Dad, Morris, was a bus conductor, while mum, Barbara,

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cleaned people's houses for a living.

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Younger sister Christine completed the Hearn family picture.

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In this age of austerity, money was always tight,

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despite Barry's best efforts.

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I always had aspirations. I always wanted the big house on the hill.

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I was never frightened to go to work.

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So I started at about 13 years old stripping tomato plants.

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Then I built up a car washing round, window cleaning round,

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baby-sitting round, gardening round.

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Worked with other kids and organised various ways of making money, you know?

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My mother told me, when I was 12,

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"When you grow up, you're going to be a chartered accountant".

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I said, "What do they do, Mum?"

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She said, "I haven't got a clue,

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"but the man whose house I clean says you never see a poor one".

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She was the driving force in my life, really.

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You know, she was the one that locked me in my bedroom at night when

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I was studying for my accountancy exams and wouldn't let me out.

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I grew up in that society where my father never taught me too much,

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but one phrase he did give me was, "make every day count".

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I've lived on that ever since. Every day, I work as if it's my last day.

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In 1966, Barry met Susan and four years later,

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the recently qualified accountant, married his glamorous fiancee.

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Two children, Katie and Eddie, followed

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and they remain very close despite the odd fallout.

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When I was born, my mum went into labour

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and he dropped her off at the hospital and said he'd be back later

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and went to Romford Snooker club and played a guy called Chunky Warne

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for a fiver or something,

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and the hospital called the Snooker club

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to tell him that I was being born,

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but he said it was a best-of-three and it was one all -

0:25:470:25:49

he couldn't go anywhere - and then turned up at the hospital

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and she was being wheeled out and he looked at her and he said,

0:25:530:25:55

"Good luck, darling," and she says, "I've already had him!"

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# Consider yourself one of us. #

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I'm really proud of everything my dad's done,

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not just in terms of business,

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but I'm really proud of him as a person.

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You know, I'm a father now and I'm quite hands on as a father,

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and he always takes the Mickey out of me, you know,

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if I'm changing a nappy, or he can't understand what's going on here,

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or if I tell I'm in Tesco's buying some dinner,

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he just can't understand all that because as far as he's concerned

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that's a woman's job and the man provides the money.

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Remind us we've got to talk to those lads

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that drive the van for the PGA Europe Hotel. I want them to go to Faro.

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We're all very loud people, so sitting together around a table,

0:26:350:26:40

I think it's hilarious fun.

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We are all trying to talk over each other,

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everyone wants to tell

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their own story, everyone wants to be heard.

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Often, we're literally waiting for a gap in the conversation

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to get our story in quickly before Dad or Ed wants to say their story.

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In March 1995, another chapter in his remarkable sporting life began

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when he bought Leyton Orient.

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The East End football club he'd supported as a boy

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had fallen on hard times.

0:27:080:27:11

I think it's really important to know where you come from.

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I come from round here, and this is my football club.

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I usually keep my heart opposite my wallet.

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On that day, they merged.

0:27:200:27:22

I just thought I was there when I was 11,

0:27:220:27:26

you just don't forget those things.

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When he first took Leyton Orient, he sent a letter asking me

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if I'd like to donate £50,000 to Leyton Orient

0:27:340:27:36

and become one of their board of directors

0:27:360:27:38

and go to all the games and I could go in the boardroom

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and have a sandwich with Barry and have a cup...

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I was thinking, "Is this guy mad?" But he's a salesman, isn't he? That's what he does.

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And I wrote back, "I'm Millwall through and through,"

0:27:460:27:49

and just posted it back to him.

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Football is full of people with fur coats and no knickers, you know?

0:27:510:27:57

Well that's not here. Here we live in the real world.

0:27:570:27:59

You know, I've never really liked government intervention,

0:27:590:28:02

but probably I could make a case that they should intervene in football because I think it's out of control.

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Clubs spending money they don't have,

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players earning a disproportionate salary

0:28:090:28:11

with regards to what's happening in the real world.

0:28:110:28:15

Football is not necessarily just about money.

0:28:150:28:17

He's transformed Orient's financial fortunes

0:28:190:28:21

with the help of some astute property deals,

0:28:210:28:25

but now he believes there is a new threat on the horizon

0:28:250:28:28

with local rivals West Ham United

0:28:280:28:30

a potential occupier of the nearby Olympic Stadium.

0:28:300:28:34

You know, we have a struggle going on with the Olympic Stadium,

0:28:340:28:37

which has been well-publicised.

0:28:370:28:39

We have the prospect of a massive club moving closer to us

0:28:390:28:43

and taking away our fan base.

0:28:430:28:45

And, you know, no-one seems to care really.

0:28:450:28:47

And that's very worrying.

0:28:470:28:49

Whoever moves in next door to Orient,

0:28:510:28:54

Barry will stand up for his club.

0:28:540:28:57

Throughout his career, he's had his fair share of fights,

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although his biggest battle came in the early 1990s

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when Matchroom was on the brink of going bust.

0:29:050:29:08

I think recessions always give businesses like mine a problem

0:29:100:29:14

if you're not established, and certainly in the '90s -

0:29:140:29:18

1990, 1991 time - was the toughest I've known.

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There were plenty of times when I wondered, "How can we pay the wages?"

0:29:230:29:27

As a child, you just think everything is rosy.

0:29:270:29:29

Only now you, sort of, hear the stories and think,

0:29:290:29:31

"Wow, I didn't know that. Were we really? Blimey."

0:29:310:29:34

But those sort of times are important to remember

0:29:340:29:37

and he's always, sort of, installed that in us,

0:29:370:29:39

that things can go wrong at any time.

0:29:390:29:41

I had a major sponsor went bust on me and cost me a lot of money,

0:29:410:29:46

which we paid and we worked through it,

0:29:460:29:49

but it was two years of making you appreciate the good times.

0:29:490:29:54

For us as a family, I don't know,

0:29:540:29:56

I think we're quite, kind of, tough nuts, really.

0:29:560:29:59

Like, you know, you pick yourself up as a family

0:29:590:30:03

and every family has things to deal with

0:30:030:30:07

and you just stick close together and keep going, really.

0:30:070:30:11

I've always known Barry to be...

0:30:110:30:14

reasonably rich, shall we say.

0:30:140:30:16

If he was going skint, you would never know. He's a typical salesman.

0:30:160:30:19

Always got a nice suit on, always got a nice smile,

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always a seat in the best places. So, you would never know.

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I grafted. I grafted every day.

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I knocked on more doors than a travelling salesman,

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and I refused to accept that I was going to be in trouble.

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It was a very good time for character-building

0:30:380:30:42

and finding out a little bit about yourself rather than other people.

0:30:420:30:46

And although it sounds big-headed, I liked what I found out.

0:30:460:30:50

MUSIC: "Five Feet High And Rising" by Johnny Cash

0:30:500:30:52

# How high's the water, momma Two feet high and rising... #

0:30:520:30:55

It's not all work and no play for Barry,

0:30:550:30:59

although he does make an art form of mixing the two.

0:30:590:31:02

To relax, he loves nothing more than a spot of fishing in the grounds of his Essex home

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listening to Country and Western music

0:31:070:31:09

as he sits in his favourite old rocking-chair.

0:31:090:31:12

There's only carp in this lake, so...

0:31:130:31:16

61 carp, all of them related to me.

0:31:160:31:20

They are all my friends. It's a sad life. Every one is tagged.

0:31:200:31:26

I have a scanner, here, so I can tell each fish over the years,

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how much weight they've put on.

0:31:320:31:33

They are all named after friends of mine, and I can recognise them now.

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I write everything down. You know, typical accountant. Sad person.

0:31:380:31:43

I write every day's fishing down,

0:31:430:31:45

so I look back on the year after year how the weight's progressed.

0:31:450:31:48

Oh, Barry, that is so good.

0:31:480:31:51

It starts in '07 and every computer tag's there.

0:31:510:31:53

The original weight, the name of the fish, the type of the fish.

0:31:530:31:58

It's like creating another family.

0:31:580:32:00

# How high's the water, momma... #

0:32:000:32:03

People come here and fish and when they catch one they get to name a fish.

0:32:030:32:06

"The Power." "Davis"

0:32:060:32:09

Steve's kids, Greg and Jack.

0:32:090:32:12

Even Michelle, my PA, has got one.

0:32:120:32:14

# Chickens are sleeping In the willow trees... #

0:32:140:32:18

I get people saying to me now, you know, "How am I doing?

0:32:180:32:20

-"What do I weigh?" I say, "You're a fat

-BLEEP."

0:32:200:32:24

# How high's the water, momma Four feet high and rising... #

0:32:240:32:29

When you're talking about relaxing,

0:32:290:32:31

when you're talking about creative thinking,

0:32:310:32:34

this is the place most of it's happened.

0:32:340:32:37

And, in a way, I realise I owe Steve Davis

0:32:370:32:39

an enormous debt for what he's added to my life

0:32:390:32:43

and other great sportsmen as well, Phil Taylor and Chris Eubank.

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In a way, I perhaps owe fishing more even than I owe to them.

0:32:470:32:51

Most of my good ideas come...

0:32:510:32:54

..when I'm pure of thought down at the lake.

0:32:550:32:58

'It's the biggest prize in angling history

0:32:580:33:00

'and it's happening right here at Mallory Park

0:33:000:33:03

'in the heart of England.'

0:33:030:33:04

He's hooked in many with his ideas over the years,

0:33:040:33:07

but few as bizarre as this one.

0:33:070:33:10

When he first came to me with fishing, I didn't buy it.

0:33:100:33:13

I said, "Look, Barry. I go fishing, and course fishing, especially.

0:33:130:33:19

"It's a bunch of guys, mainly,

0:33:190:33:21

"sitting by a bank, waiting for something to happen.

0:33:210:33:23

How do you turn that into a spectator event?" He did it.

0:33:230:33:28

'You know, one good fish would win it for Lou,

0:33:280:33:30

'but he's got to get it in. Has he got time?'

0:33:300:33:32

Fish 'O' Mania was invented at a carp lake in Ockendon

0:33:320:33:35

the day after Wrestlemania.

0:33:350:33:38

That's where the name came from.

0:33:380:33:40

I went to see David Hill, running Sky at the time.

0:33:400:33:42

I said, "David, I think fishing." He said, "I like it."

0:33:420:33:45

I said, "I need six hours live." He said, "You're mad."

0:33:450:33:48

-Oh dear, look at his face.

-That's Dickie Carr, our leader.

0:33:480:33:51

Unbelievable, tremendous tension here.

0:33:510:33:55

There's thousands sit around and watch blokes going like this.

0:33:550:34:00

Now how you sell that, he can sell anything to anybody, I think.

0:34:000:34:04

What's this, has Dickie got one?

0:34:040:34:07

-It looks as though he's had one and lost one.

-Oh, no!

0:34:070:34:09

Those guys, when they fish, are so good.

0:34:090:34:12

They're as good as Tiger Woods when he plays golf.

0:34:140:34:16

We're 60 seconds away from the hooter here at Fish 'O' Mania.

0:34:160:34:20

And Turner, who has finished so strongly...

0:34:200:34:22

-Is that his fourth in the last ten minutes?

-It's his fourth in the last ten minutes.

0:34:220:34:26

There isn't any other fishing on telly, of the sort that we do with Barry.

0:34:260:34:30

Fish 'O' Mania, for a whole day,

0:34:300:34:33

is a fabulous watch.

0:34:330:34:35

Yes, the skills are Barry, but let's not forget,

0:34:350:34:38

he picked up on it on the back of huge participation.

0:34:380:34:40

He knew there was a market there.

0:34:400:34:42

19 years later, it's the biggest fishing competition in the world.

0:34:440:34:48

For an angler, to appear even at the final,

0:34:480:34:52

established bank-side credibility for life.

0:34:520:34:55

Aside from fishing, he's helped revitalise a whole host of sports

0:34:570:35:02

and bring them to a wider TV audience.

0:35:020:35:04

His methods may sometimes be controversial

0:35:040:35:08

but he understands the needs of broadcasters,

0:35:080:35:10

particularly those with hours of programming to fill.

0:35:100:35:14

He comes up with a million ideas and he wants us to partner him

0:35:140:35:18

in taking every single one of them.

0:35:180:35:20

Some you'll chew the fat and you'll decide, that's not for us.

0:35:200:35:24

It won't stop him coming back saying, "Come on, we can really make this work."

0:35:240:35:28

He can make a persuasive case.

0:35:280:35:29

If he can see an angle and he can see a dollar sign at the end of it,

0:35:290:35:33

he will create something.

0:35:330:35:36

You only have to look at darts, you only have to look at snooker.

0:35:360:35:39

You have to look at... Boxing that he gets involved with.

0:35:390:35:41

He's got a really successful hit rate.

0:35:410:35:43

In 2001, Barry brought his unique management style

0:35:430:35:48

to yet another sport.

0:35:480:35:49

180!

0:35:490:35:53

As chairman of the Professional Darts Corporation,

0:35:530:35:57

his innovations have turned it into one of the unlikeliest

0:35:570:36:00

success stories of the last decade.

0:36:000:36:02

I'm still a control freak. I still hate committees.

0:36:020:36:08

I still believe in myself as almost a benevolent despot of sport.

0:36:080:36:13

I love that quote.

0:36:130:36:15

"I am the best in the world at what I do, in my opinion.

0:36:160:36:18

"which is the only opinion that I actually value!"

0:36:180:36:22

The sport he calls "working-class golf" now regularly

0:36:250:36:31

fills 10,000-seater stadia and the ultimate working man's game

0:36:310:36:34

attracts fans from all walks of life.

0:36:340:36:36

The Queen's granddaughter, Zara Phillips,

0:36:380:36:40

is the latest convert, turning up at the 2012 World final.

0:36:400:36:45

I think you'll have a special night. If you've not been before.

0:36:450:36:49

I wouldn't recommend you hold any signs up

0:36:490:36:51

-because it's a real giveaway.

-Yeah.

0:36:510:36:53

I think, as far as his greatest achievements have to be,

0:36:530:36:57

I think darts has to be right up there.

0:36:570:36:59

When you go to a darts event, and you look around at the atmosphere,

0:36:590:37:03

you simply cannot fathom how this possibly happened.

0:37:030:37:06

You know, darts is a great game, but it's been around for years

0:37:060:37:11

and no-one's really embraced it,

0:37:110:37:13

but the atmosphere, and the environment

0:37:130:37:16

and the entertainment factor that he's brought into the game, is amazing.

0:37:160:37:20

-Listen, play well tonight, young man.

-Cheers, thank you.

-Play well.

-Thank you.

-See later, boy.

0:37:200:37:24

Since he came into darts, the prize-money has rocketed

0:37:240:37:28

from £500,000 to over £5 million a season.

0:37:280:37:31

For players such as Adrian "Jackpot" Lewis

0:37:310:37:34

and Andy "The Hammer" Hamilton, it's a path to undreamed of riches.

0:37:340:37:38

Play well, all right. Whatever happens, whatever happens...

0:37:380:37:41

-I'm still a winner.

-Just do what you do. No, no, do what you do best.

0:37:410:37:45

-Yeah.

-Don't give an inch and growl a lot.

0:37:450:37:49

A guy that spends six hours a day on the oche, learning his trade,

0:37:490:37:53

is as much a sportsman as any gold medal winner in the Olympics.

0:37:530:37:57

-Can you keep a secret?

-Yeah.

-I can.

0:37:570:37:59

Someone's just walked into a betting shop and laid £50,000, in cash,

0:37:590:38:02

-on Andy Hamilton to win.

-Really?

-Yeah.

0:38:020:38:05

-Amazing!

-Do you know who it was?

-I hope it wasn't Andy!

0:38:050:38:08

The actual job we've done on darts come from absolutely nowhere.

0:38:100:38:14

It has been one of the most motivating things in my life.

0:38:140:38:18

A lot of it is just old techniques that I've used,

0:38:180:38:21

all my life. You make the players famous.

0:38:210:38:25

It's...

0:38:250:38:29

..Hammer time!

0:38:290:38:32

Andy...Hamilton!

0:38:320:38:34

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:38:340:38:36

Create an atmosphere that is conducive to people

0:38:370:38:40

just to forget about all their problems and enjoy themselves.

0:38:400:38:45

That's Barry Hearn's trick, really, is to take pub games

0:38:470:38:52

or marginal pastimes and turn them

0:38:520:38:54

into genuinely competitive sport,

0:38:540:38:57

certainly events, and getting people really interested.

0:38:570:39:00

He really, really has a knack for it.

0:39:000:39:02

180!

0:39:020:39:03

I would say the history of sport, the reinvention of darts,

0:39:030:39:07

is probably one of the greatest things in sport.

0:39:070:39:09

It was a sport that was seen as a bit dying.

0:39:090:39:11

It was blokes with fags and beer.

0:39:120:39:15

Now it's blokes with fags and beer that can't go on stage with those!

0:39:150:39:18

The event is fantastic.

0:39:180:39:19

100...

0:39:190:39:22

-I've got an idea.

-What's this?

0:39:220:39:23

You should have, you know, like the baseball gloves with 180 on.

0:39:230:39:27

-Baseball gloves... Have you been...

-You know like the hands.

0:39:270:39:30

-Barry, can we have a quick picture?

-Have you been in promotions for long?

0:39:300:39:34

-No.

-No, OK.

0:39:340:39:35

He's very outspoken, he's very honest and he'll say what he thinks

0:39:350:39:38

and what he feels.

0:39:380:39:40

Sometimes that's not always the general opinion.

0:39:400:39:42

So sometimes he can be controversial but he's genuinely just saying

0:39:420:39:47

what he believes in and most of the time that's generally for the good of the sport

0:39:470:39:52

that he's involved in, trying to move that forward.

0:39:520:39:54

The punters are the ones that tell you

0:39:540:39:58

if you've got something worthy, something that adds to their life.

0:39:580:40:02

Most people's lives are fairly mundane.

0:40:020:40:04

My job, as a sports promoter, is to give them moments

0:40:050:40:09

that they go to work thinking, "I had a cracking night last night."

0:40:090:40:12

Well done, girls. Well done. Take the rest of the night off.

0:40:140:40:17

I mean, listen, I love my job.

0:40:190:40:20

If this is work, I don't know what hard work is.

0:40:200:40:24

All right, boy, well done.

0:40:240:40:27

Great winner, great event and 50,000 punters going home

0:40:270:40:30

with a smile on their face having been royally entertained.

0:40:300:40:33

That's my job.

0:40:330:40:34

So it's another event over and time for a chill-out down by the lake.

0:40:360:40:40

It takes a lot to knock Barry off his stride.

0:40:440:40:47

A heart attack in 2001 briefly stopped him in his tracks.

0:40:470:40:51

While his workload remains prolific, he always takes time now to unwind.

0:40:510:40:57

When he had his heart attack many years ago,

0:41:000:41:02

I think that might have put a different slant on his life.

0:41:020:41:06

In the early days when things were tight here, and tough here,

0:41:060:41:09

that was a very stressful period.

0:41:090:41:11

Certainly, in the last 15 years, and as every day goes on,

0:41:110:41:16

I see him care less about the worry and the panic

0:41:160:41:20

and understanding what matters in life and what doesn't. Business matters, but family matters more.

0:41:200:41:26

This is my other house, I suppose. It's a bit smaller.

0:41:260:41:30

I sleep there, if I fish all night.

0:41:310:41:33

I wake up in the morning and cook my breakfast. No-one disturbs me.

0:41:340:41:40

Then, every now and again,

0:41:400:41:41

we get some friends down and we fish for the trophy.

0:41:410:41:45

It's very competitive.

0:41:450:41:47

But, you know, this is an escape from the real world.

0:41:470:41:50

I think he's probably mellowed a little bit,

0:41:500:41:53

the last couple of years.

0:41:530:41:54

He probably fishes a bit more, relaxes a little bit more

0:41:540:41:57

and spending a bit more time at home.

0:41:570:42:00

He's still got the same work ethic that he's always had.

0:42:000:42:03

You come down here with no e-mails, no phones,

0:42:030:42:08

no-one disturbing you, no-one giving you grief

0:42:080:42:12

and as you get older you start appreciating your environment

0:42:120:42:15

a little bit more.

0:42:150:42:17

I've often thought, if we could get the kids in the streets, in the inner cities,

0:42:170:42:21

to go fishing there would be a lot less trouble in the world.

0:42:210:42:24

Now he seems to just have this attitude of everything

0:42:240:42:29

is going to be all right, nothing is a problem.

0:42:290:42:31

That puts everyone at ease and that's a real great talent to have.

0:42:310:42:37

He may be more relaxed, but there's no sign of him slowing down.

0:42:370:42:42

Are we going downstairs?

0:42:420:42:44

As he approaches pension age,

0:42:440:42:45

Barry finds himself running the sport where it all began.

0:42:450:42:50

He's not really the kind of person you could tell to slow down.

0:42:500:42:54

I mean, he puts so much passion into everything.

0:42:540:42:56

He's quite fun to be around. I don't want him to slow down.

0:42:560:43:01

That's what drives him and that's what fires him.

0:43:010:43:03

He's got to pick up the trophy, it weighs a ton.

0:43:030:43:06

Yeah, yeah...

0:43:060:43:07

When you're laying out on that slab, don't have any regrets.

0:43:070:43:10

Don't use that word "if".

0:43:100:43:12

"If I'd have done this, I should have done that. Maybe."

0:43:120:43:15

I hate these words. You know, I want people who are definite.

0:43:150:43:19

I want people who are explosive.

0:43:190:43:20

If you make a bad call, make it 100%, don't make it 50%.

0:43:200:43:25

Don't start looking over your shoulder and saying, "I should have done it."

0:43:250:43:29

Do it or shut up!

0:43:290:43:31

-Hi, Barry.

-How are you?

-Not so bad, yourself? Barry?

0:43:310:43:34

-Yeah.

-You know this, Q Zone, can we improve it with the lighting?

0:43:340:43:37

-I'm sure there's loads we can improve it.

-Cheers, Barry.

0:43:370:43:40

We're constantly thinking about it. Where are we going?

0:43:400:43:42

From the peak of its popularity in the 1980s,

0:43:420:43:45

snooker was a sport in decline.

0:43:450:43:47

In 2009, the players invited Barry to run the game

0:43:470:43:52

and he made it clear from the start it would be his way, or no way.

0:43:520:43:56

Arms first, handshake second. You'll get the hang of that.

0:43:560:43:59

The game was so moribund, so defunct of ideas,

0:44:000:44:04

so lacking innovation and I thought to myself, "This is an opportunity,

0:44:040:44:08

"a game fate has dealt me which would be a sin to turn away from."

0:44:080:44:14

I think he truly thought that snooker was dying

0:44:150:44:18

and it was dead but, all of a sudden, he spotted how much interest there was worldwide.

0:44:180:44:22

My report finished with, "In my view, I should take over the game."

0:44:240:44:29

Fortunately, just enough players agreed with me.

0:44:290:44:32

What he's done for snooker has been amazing.

0:44:320:44:35

You know, it was that bad I went into the jungle four years ago

0:44:350:44:38

and now he's got it up to the top sport it should be.

0:44:380:44:42

Why are the crowds up? Is it down to the marketing or is it down to Judd Trump coming along?

0:44:420:44:47

It's a little bit of both but mainly it's the king has no clothes.

0:44:470:44:50

Yeah, yeah.

0:44:500:44:52

-If people believe things are happening the average fan will go along and have a look at it.

-Yeah.

0:44:520:44:56

When they go and look at it they'll say, "It's been quite a good night."

0:44:560:44:59

I've enjoyed myself with the snooker.

0:44:590:45:00

It's been so much fun because I've been able to blow it all up and start again.

0:45:000:45:05

You know, as a sport that really wasn't going anywhere. There was a lethargy in the sport.

0:45:050:45:10

We've just taken hold of it and dragged it screaming into the 21st century.

0:45:100:45:14

Please welcome Shaun "The Magician" Murphy!

0:45:140:45:19

Barry introduced the walk-on music, I think that's great.

0:45:210:45:24

Great for the game. They have it in darts and that.

0:45:240:45:27

Something a little bit different, there's nothing wrong with it.

0:45:270:45:30

"The Thunder from Down Under,"

0:45:300:45:32

Neil Robertson!

0:45:320:45:34

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:45:340:45:37

I think there's been a buzz about the game, without a doubt.

0:45:370:45:39

Obviously, we've seen many more events put on throughout the whole world.

0:45:390:45:43

Obviously, new events, high-speed events

0:45:430:45:45

with more crowd participation.

0:45:450:45:47

So, yeah, it's what the game needed.

0:45:490:45:52

The game needed a kick up the backside.

0:45:520:45:54

Excellent! Nice intros.

0:45:540:45:56

In recent months, there have been signs of dissent in the ranks.

0:45:560:45:59

Mark Allen was fined after complaining about the changes

0:45:590:46:03

being made and declared snooker, was "going to pot".

0:46:030:46:07

He even called for Barry to resign.

0:46:070:46:09

Mark Allen did speak out at the UK Championships

0:46:090:46:12

and he did say that a lot of other players were feeling the same.

0:46:120:46:15

So, Mark was the spokesman. Pretty brave of him to take Barry on.

0:46:150:46:20

That's how he felt.

0:46:200:46:23

We need people that make headlines.

0:46:230:46:27

Now, it's got to be, obviously, with some common sense involved, as well.

0:46:270:46:32

I often engage my mouth before I concentrate on my brain.

0:46:320:46:37

You know, this is a failing.

0:46:370:46:38

I know a few of the players have been moaning a bit

0:46:410:46:43

about the PTC events, especially the first prize is £10,000.

0:46:430:46:47

People like Ronnie O'Sullivan, you know, he would have to give up

0:46:470:46:50

a weekend and have to win the tournament to break even.

0:46:500:46:55

It's trying to reach a happy medium but they've got plenty of snooker to play, that's for sure.

0:46:550:46:59

I think we got into a rut of having

0:47:020:47:03

only six, seven or eight tournaments in every season

0:47:030:47:06

and we got used to that.

0:47:060:47:08

Now, we've gone from one extreme to the other.

0:47:080:47:10

I mean, there's talk of a tournament every other week, somewhere in the world.

0:47:100:47:14

Physically you can't keep doing that because you'll get burned out, eventually.

0:47:140:47:17

I never have any sympathy for anyone who goes to work, you know.

0:47:200:47:24

I have sympathy for those that can't go to work, or find a job.

0:47:240:47:26

So, professional sportsmen saying to me, "I'm too busy," really falls on a deaf ear.

0:47:260:47:33

Your champion, Neil Robertson!

0:47:330:47:36

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:47:360:47:38

Sorry!

0:47:400:47:42

Please tell me I don't have to go to Crondon Park tomorrow morning.

0:47:420:47:45

You do!

0:47:450:47:47

All the players realise he doesn't really care what our opinions are about most things.

0:47:470:47:52

He's just going to do it, what he thinks is best for the game.

0:47:520:47:55

We've got to be along for the ride, basically.

0:47:550:47:57

The champion has to be at Crondon Park golf course tomorrow at 12 o'clock to play.

0:48:000:48:04

He said, "Please tell me I don't have to be at Crondon Park tomorrow. I said, "I'm afraid you do."

0:48:040:48:08

I'm never going to do everything that pleases everybody because that would be unnatural.

0:48:080:48:12

I do things that please the sport.

0:48:120:48:14

He gets fined if he doesn't turn up so he knows he's got to do it.

0:48:140:48:18

So far, it's not ten out of ten.

0:48:180:48:20

It 9.5.

0:48:200:48:22

I'm getting the other half next year.

0:48:220:48:24

The trouble is we didn't have that BBC logo on the bagel.

0:48:240:48:26

I've told you about that.

0:48:260:48:28

We'll think about that in the morning.

0:48:280:48:31

Will he turn it around?

0:48:310:48:32

Guaranteed he'll turn it around and the snooker players

0:48:320:48:35

of the next generation will have a far higher prize pool to play for.

0:48:350:48:39

If snooker has a chance of succeeding, then Barry's the right man.

0:48:410:48:45

Whether snooker has a chance, I'm not utterly convinced.

0:48:450:48:49

The world is possibly too quick now for snooker.

0:48:490:48:52

One more beer and a glass of red wine, please.

0:48:520:48:54

Snooker is a part of my life that I think I can do something for

0:48:540:48:58

and it'll do something for me.

0:48:580:49:00

It keeps me alive.

0:49:000:49:02

If I was any better, I would fail a drugs test.

0:49:020:49:06

It keeps me wanting to go to work every morning,

0:49:060:49:09

earlier and work later.

0:49:090:49:11

You know, that's the best way to cure a recession. Just work longer hours.

0:49:110:49:15

It works!

0:49:150:49:17

So, the future is looking good and there'll be a few bumps along the way.

0:49:170:49:22

There'll be a few people disagreeing with me. That's OK.

0:49:220:49:25

We can all disagree.

0:49:250:49:26

We'll have a chat about it and then we'll do what I want!

0:49:260:49:30

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