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Martina Navratilova - possibly the greatest tennis player of all time - | 0:00:02 | 0:00:07 | |
is turning 60 this year. | 0:00:07 | 0:00:09 | |
Together, we revisited her hometown. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:15 | |
Growing up in a communist country, you, kind of, did whatever it took. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:18 | |
Her earliest years are from an era that no longer exists. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:22 | |
No! That was right on the chalk! Come on! | 0:00:22 | 0:00:25 | |
In her youth, she was feisty. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:27 | |
You know, I want to play when I want and where I want. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:32 | |
Defecting to America - within four years, the world's best. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:36 | |
She transformed herself and there was a time no-one could beat her. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:43 | |
Game, set and match, Miss Navratilova. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:45 | |
-DAN MASKELL: -And the dream has come true. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:48 | |
A pioneer, an activist, an icon, | 0:00:48 | 0:00:50 | |
but perhaps she has the best way of describing herself. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:54 | |
December 2014, New York City. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:07 | |
In a life of many fresh starts, | 0:01:07 | 0:01:10 | |
this is another. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:12 | |
SHE SIGHS | 0:01:12 | 0:01:14 | |
The calm before the storm. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:15 | |
Mary's got the rings, right? | 0:01:16 | 0:01:18 | |
-I have them. -Holy shit. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:19 | |
# They're writing songs of love... # | 0:01:19 | 0:01:23 | |
She's a serve-volleyer, man. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:25 | |
She just serve-volleys. She knows herself. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:27 | |
She's like, "Go get 'em! | 0:01:27 | 0:01:29 | |
"Don't worry about the consequences. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:30 | |
"Worry about that later." | 0:01:30 | 0:01:32 | |
She's very well read. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:34 | |
She has an incredible memory. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:36 | |
She's good at maths, she's good at languages. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:38 | |
She's good at just about anything. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:41 | |
It reflects in her social media - what she tweets out, what she reads, | 0:01:41 | 0:01:44 | |
who she advocates for. | 0:01:44 | 0:01:47 | |
She's getting married and I'm single. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:49 | |
Go figure. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:51 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:01:51 | 0:01:53 | |
This is a friend of mine, Karen. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:55 | |
Jeannie Ash. Jeannie, have you met the Mayor? | 0:01:55 | 0:01:57 | |
You must have met. | 0:01:57 | 0:01:58 | |
At the age of 59, | 0:01:58 | 0:02:00 | |
Miss Navratilova is about to become Mrs Navratilova. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:04 | |
It's her wedding day. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:06 | |
She's marrying Julia Lemigova - | 0:02:06 | 0:02:09 | |
a businesswoman, a former Miss USSR, | 0:02:09 | 0:02:12 | |
a worried Julia. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:14 | |
I start thinking in three languages and it's... | 0:02:14 | 0:02:16 | |
It just sabotages me. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:19 | |
You are an extraordinary couple together - | 0:02:20 | 0:02:22 | |
a radiant couple, may I add? | 0:02:22 | 0:02:24 | |
Martina, thank you. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:26 | |
For so many years - and I may add, long before it was fashionable - | 0:02:26 | 0:02:30 | |
you stood up and you spoke up, | 0:02:30 | 0:02:33 | |
and we are eternally grateful for that. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:34 | |
Thank you. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:35 | |
'She's been a great fighter for people who are gay' | 0:02:35 | 0:02:38 | |
and she's helped to crusade for people... People's rights. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:43 | |
That's a very important thing to do, | 0:02:43 | 0:02:44 | |
especially when you're involved in sport and music and whatever. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:48 | |
Julia, I promise to love you, | 0:02:48 | 0:02:51 | |
to cherish you, in sickness and in health. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:53 | |
No matter what, I will be there for you and for our family. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:57 | |
I promise not to make the social media another member of our family. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:01 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:03:01 | 0:03:03 | |
I can just imagine how many girls growing up knowing they were gay | 0:03:03 | 0:03:08 | |
must have thought, "Thank God for her." | 0:03:08 | 0:03:11 | |
What an incredible example. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:14 | |
With this ring... | 0:03:14 | 0:03:15 | |
(..I thee wed.) | 0:03:16 | 0:03:18 | |
By the powers vested in me by the State of New York, | 0:03:18 | 0:03:22 | |
I pronounce you married. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:25 | |
You may embrace. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:26 | |
JULIA CHUCKLES | 0:03:26 | 0:03:28 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:03:28 | 0:03:30 | |
CHEERING | 0:03:33 | 0:03:36 | |
This is a wedding day with a message. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:38 | |
Same-sex marriages can take place in New York, | 0:03:38 | 0:03:41 | |
but not everywhere in America. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:44 | |
I got you. I got you. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:47 | |
We wanted to do it before the end of the year. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:50 | |
Didn't want to wait, but it wasn't legal in Florida, | 0:03:50 | 0:03:53 | |
so we had to do it somewhere else, | 0:03:53 | 0:03:55 | |
and it just made sense logistically, emotionally. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:58 | |
Julia, same thing for her - | 0:03:58 | 0:04:00 | |
she had some special times in New York City. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:02 | |
It just made sense. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:04 | |
She came up to me and said, "Hello, I'm Martina." | 0:04:04 | 0:04:07 | |
I said, "Hi, I'm Julia." | 0:04:07 | 0:04:09 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:04:09 | 0:04:12 | |
And that was the beginning... | 0:04:12 | 0:04:14 | |
of a beautiful friendship! | 0:04:14 | 0:04:17 | |
Thank you to be such a wonderful parent | 0:04:17 | 0:04:19 | |
to my girls - and your girls now - | 0:04:19 | 0:04:21 | |
and I love you so much. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:24 | |
And this is the most special day of my life. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:27 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:04:27 | 0:04:29 | |
'Cos we've been together for such a long time, | 0:04:30 | 0:04:32 | |
'but I thought the kids felt more secure within the relationship | 0:04:32 | 0:04:35 | |
'that it's validated and equal.' | 0:04:35 | 0:04:39 | |
For me, I felt so much more secure, | 0:04:39 | 0:04:42 | |
like you can't mess with my family any more, | 0:04:42 | 0:04:44 | |
you cannot tell me I'm less than - and it was huge. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:47 | |
That impact was bigger than I realised it would be. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:50 | |
So, here we are, celebrating being full-fledged members of society. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:56 | |
I know it's made a big difference for girls. | 0:04:56 | 0:04:58 | |
To all those people that might have a problem with same-sex marriage, | 0:04:58 | 0:05:02 | |
I say look at our family. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:04 | |
And I feel like most of my life is right in this room, | 0:05:04 | 0:05:07 | |
one way or the other. I just wish... | 0:05:07 | 0:05:09 | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:05:10 | 0:05:13 | |
I wish my parents were here to see this, | 0:05:15 | 0:05:17 | |
but I know they're watching and soon now we have a new family, | 0:05:17 | 0:05:20 | |
so, thanks, everybody. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:21 | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:05:21 | 0:05:24 | |
# And you can tell everybody | 0:05:24 | 0:05:27 | |
# This is your song | 0:05:27 | 0:05:30 | |
# It may be quite simple | 0:05:30 | 0:05:34 | |
# But now that it's done... # | 0:05:34 | 0:05:38 | |
'She's found her permanent doubles partner in life - | 0:05:38 | 0:05:41 | |
'as I'm sure is endlessly said' | 0:05:41 | 0:05:43 | |
at every tennis player's wedding! | 0:05:43 | 0:05:45 | |
But not mixed doubles, in her case. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:47 | |
# How wonderful life is | 0:05:47 | 0:05:52 | |
# Now you're in the world. # | 0:05:52 | 0:05:56 | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:05:59 | 0:06:01 | |
-Goodbye. -Bye! -Bye. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:13 | |
All without a hitch, so to speak. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:16 | |
We got hitched without a hitch! | 0:06:16 | 0:06:18 | |
Mrs Navratilova. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:21 | |
I can't believe it. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:24 | |
So now Mum is a Mrs, | 0:06:24 | 0:06:26 | |
what do I call you now? | 0:06:26 | 0:06:28 | |
You call me Martina. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
Martina was born in Czechoslovakia - | 0:06:39 | 0:06:41 | |
a country now split into Slovakia, and here, the Czech Republic. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:46 | |
And it's to Prague that I've come, to find out more. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:52 | |
We're going back in time, to an age when things were very different - | 0:06:52 | 0:06:56 | |
to days long before I got to know her on tour. | 0:06:56 | 0:06:59 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:07:06 | 0:07:09 | |
Martina's parents divorced when she was three. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:15 | |
Her mother left Prague with her two daughters | 0:07:15 | 0:07:17 | |
and they moved to a village 40 minutes away by train. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
Revnice. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:22 | |
Martina, this is home, but this is the centre of the village. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:26 | |
Yes. This used to be cobblestoned, so riding a bicycle was, you know, | 0:07:26 | 0:07:29 | |
a bit of a precarious proposition. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:32 | |
The pub was there. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:34 | |
The grocery store was here, | 0:07:34 | 0:07:36 | |
but now there's extra stores, and some changed. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:39 | |
And the famous dentist. That's the window where he used to torture me. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:42 | |
There was bad energy, | 0:07:42 | 0:07:43 | |
because the dentist always used to give me a hard time. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:46 | |
"You need to stop eating candy." I'm like, "I don't like candy. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:48 | |
"I don't eat candy. I don't chew gum." | 0:07:48 | 0:07:51 | |
I wasn't doing any of the bad things. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:53 | |
And I still had bad teeth. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:54 | |
On the tennis courts, it's somebody else. | 0:07:56 | 0:07:59 | |
She even didn't like to practise. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:00 | |
Always, Father said, "Oh, you must do things, don't lay on the sofa." | 0:08:00 | 0:08:04 | |
She doesn't like to run. Imagine! | 0:08:04 | 0:08:07 | |
When she stops playing and at home, she is different. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:10 | |
Sensitive, playful. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:12 | |
You know, this is what I used to do when I was a kid - walk around. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:16 | |
That balance is still there, you see. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:19 | |
Not... | 0:08:19 | 0:08:21 | |
Not fall in. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:23 | |
But usually there was no water in there. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:24 | |
-Ooh. -There we go. -Somebody turned the fountain on. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:27 | |
For all the sense of fun, this was a childhood spent | 0:08:29 | 0:08:33 | |
in post-Second World War Czechoslovakia. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:36 | |
Europe behind the Iron Curtain. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:38 | |
Growing up in a communist country, | 0:08:38 | 0:08:40 | |
you just, kind of, did whatever it took. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:42 | |
You know, you told a bad political joke and you would go to jail. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:45 | |
But, you know, the childhood, up to when I left, at 18, | 0:08:45 | 0:08:49 | |
I had a fantastic life here. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:51 | |
In the summer, we swam in the river. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:53 | |
In the winter, we skated on it. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:55 | |
You know, climb people's fences and steal their cherries and walnuts. | 0:08:55 | 0:08:58 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:08:58 | 0:09:00 | |
But you really couldn't buy fruit. They were very expensive. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:03 | |
They were more expensive per pound or per kilo than the best meat. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:07 | |
She was just a little, bouncy, happy child, | 0:09:09 | 0:09:12 | |
with very exceptional physical capabilities. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:16 | |
I remember, I think we went to the local river | 0:09:16 | 0:09:19 | |
and suddenly this little girl took a little pebble | 0:09:19 | 0:09:22 | |
and she threw it as far as we could and we said, | 0:09:22 | 0:09:24 | |
"Wow. I mean, this is quite amazing." | 0:09:24 | 0:09:26 | |
My uncle, who was quite a tennis player, | 0:09:27 | 0:09:29 | |
he said, "Yeah, she's an absolutely amazing kid. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:31 | |
"I have never seen one like that." | 0:09:31 | 0:09:33 | |
And I think they were tired of him a little bit. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:35 | |
He was saying, "She's going to win Wimbledon before she's 20." | 0:09:35 | 0:09:38 | |
He really believed in her. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:40 | |
My mum was a great athlete. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:42 | |
I mean, she could have done anything she wanted to. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:44 | |
And she played volleyball, she ran track, she was very fast. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:47 | |
She could have been a great tennis player. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:49 | |
But she encouraged it in me, and then, I'm like, | 0:09:49 | 0:09:52 | |
"OK, world, here I come!" And I was, like, ten. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:54 | |
It's a lovely setting. | 0:09:58 | 0:09:59 | |
And Karlstejn, which is a famous castle - that's maybe five miles | 0:09:59 | 0:10:03 | |
as the crow flies - and that's a big tourist attraction. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:06 | |
That's King Charles. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:07 | |
He built the castle for his mistress. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:10 | |
Those were the days. | 0:10:11 | 0:10:12 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:10:12 | 0:10:14 | |
The courts are great. The middle one is where I hit my first ball | 0:10:14 | 0:10:18 | |
on a real court. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:19 | |
Then, this one was the first time I put my feet together on the serve. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:22 | |
Ah. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:23 | |
I was right here. Our clubhouse is pretty much the same. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:27 | |
I kissed my first boyfriend - no, second boyfriend - right there. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:32 | |
In the clubhouse, in the locker room. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:34 | |
Whatever the attractions, | 0:10:36 | 0:10:38 | |
it was here Martina first began entering the record books. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:42 | |
This is when I won the Czech Championships | 0:10:42 | 0:10:44 | |
and then, like, two weeks later, | 0:10:44 | 0:10:46 | |
I won the Junior Championship, growing up. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:48 | |
And even then, you're on tiptoes trying to be taller. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:50 | |
Yeah, I was just so short. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:53 | |
And this was the women's part. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:54 | |
-Right. -It still is women. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:56 | |
So, damy - dames. | 0:10:56 | 0:10:59 | |
So this is where I was snogging with my boyfriend, right here. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:03 | |
-Right here. -SUE LAUGHS | 0:11:03 | 0:11:05 | |
-And still the original locker doors. -Really? -Yeah. -Oh, no. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:07 | |
-Who...? Oh, that's Jana? -That's my sister. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:09 | |
-Oh! -That's my sister's locker, yeah. I was in the corner there. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:12 | |
Do you come back here much? | 0:11:12 | 0:11:13 | |
I come two, three times a year, yeah. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:16 | |
So, now that my sister lives here again, the last three years, | 0:11:16 | 0:11:20 | |
and every time I come back I hang out, yeah. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:22 | |
By the time she was 14, | 0:11:24 | 0:11:25 | |
Martina was too good for the local club, | 0:11:25 | 0:11:28 | |
and so began her travels in tennis. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:31 | |
First stop, not so very far away - | 0:11:31 | 0:11:34 | |
the Sparta Prague club. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:36 | |
Here she met the Czech star of the day, | 0:11:36 | 0:11:38 | |
the 1973 Wimbledon champion, Jan Kodes. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:42 | |
As the number one in Czech, | 0:11:43 | 0:11:45 | |
there was many people around here, you know, | 0:11:45 | 0:11:47 | |
watching my practice, and so on. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:49 | |
Martina's father always come to me and says, | 0:11:49 | 0:11:51 | |
"Hey, Jan, Martina is going to play on court for practice - | 0:11:51 | 0:11:54 | |
"I like that you look at how she's playing." And I said, | 0:11:54 | 0:11:58 | |
"Mirek, she shouldn't come to the net that often. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
"She should be more careful and prepare the approach much better." | 0:12:01 | 0:12:06 | |
And he said, "Don't worry about it. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:08 | |
"I think it's very good that she comes to the net, | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
"because she will have something what the other girls never have. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:15 | |
"Every girl can play from the baseline, | 0:12:15 | 0:12:17 | |
"but if she learn to play on the net, | 0:12:17 | 0:12:19 | |
"she's going to be extraordinary." | 0:12:19 | 0:12:21 | |
And later it become true! | 0:12:21 | 0:12:23 | |
I would hit for an hour | 0:12:24 | 0:12:25 | |
and then we'd take the tram back to the train station | 0:12:25 | 0:12:28 | |
and that was the routine, you know. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:30 | |
I could, literally, hear the train coming and I'd start running | 0:12:30 | 0:12:33 | |
and I could still catch it. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:35 | |
Going back and forth by tram, | 0:12:35 | 0:12:37 | |
train, and on the back of the family motorbike, | 0:12:37 | 0:12:40 | |
these were days of innocence that suddenly stopped. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:44 | |
August, 1968. The Soviet response to the reform programme | 0:12:50 | 0:12:55 | |
of Alexander Dubcek's government. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:57 | |
Do you regard your country as having been invaded this morning? | 0:12:57 | 0:13:00 | |
It was an invasion, yes. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:01 | |
Where do you think Mr Dubcek is? | 0:13:01 | 0:13:03 | |
-He appears to have vanished. -He's still in office. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:05 | |
The Prague Spring was over. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:07 | |
There was a picture in there with the girl that I was with | 0:13:10 | 0:13:13 | |
when the Russian tanks came. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:14 | |
I was in Pilsen, playing a junior tournament. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:17 | |
I got there Thursday night, | 0:13:17 | 0:13:18 | |
Friday we were supposed to go play tennis. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:21 | |
And Friday morning, her father called us and said - | 0:13:21 | 0:13:23 | |
at eight in the morning - he says, "Don't go outside, there's tanks." | 0:13:23 | 0:13:27 | |
So, of course, we went outside, | 0:13:27 | 0:13:28 | |
and by then, we saw the tanks everywhere, the roads were torn up, | 0:13:28 | 0:13:32 | |
there was tanks everywhere, scouring the countryside. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:36 | |
The Russians move around like strangers from another world, | 0:13:36 | 0:13:39 | |
patrolling the streets by day and night | 0:13:39 | 0:13:41 | |
and digging their roots even deeper into Czechoslovak soil. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:44 | |
The Czechoslovaks watch their expansion grimly | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 | |
and react with the only workable attitude in this unreal situation. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:53 | |
An attitude of silent defiance. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:56 | |
It was just an amazing sadness going on in the country | 0:13:56 | 0:13:59 | |
because, under Dubcek, we were feeling that, you know, | 0:13:59 | 0:14:03 | |
we might...not have capitalism, | 0:14:03 | 0:14:05 | |
but not communism, either - | 0:14:05 | 0:14:08 | |
just kind of...we could breathe, | 0:14:08 | 0:14:09 | |
we could travel, we could start your own business. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:12 | |
There was a hope for having more freedoms - personal freedoms. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:16 | |
And that was quashed. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:18 | |
The change was coming from the top, but they didn't like it, | 0:14:18 | 0:14:21 | |
so they sent 600,000 soldiers, with tanks. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:24 | |
The army was told to stand down, by the government, | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
because we knew they had no chance. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:29 | |
I think we can relate to one another because of the past that we had. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:34 | |
In my case, growing up in a war-torn country, | 0:14:34 | 0:14:37 | |
people would stand in line to get a piece of bread or just, you know, | 0:14:37 | 0:14:42 | |
one bottle of milk and, you know, | 0:14:42 | 0:14:44 | |
they would live on it for weeks, | 0:14:44 | 0:14:46 | |
so it's not kind of experience that you wish for anybody to go through, | 0:14:46 | 0:14:50 | |
but I'm sure that Martina would agree | 0:14:50 | 0:14:52 | |
that those experiences have helped us to get tougher | 0:14:52 | 0:14:56 | |
and get hungrier for the success. | 0:14:56 | 0:14:58 | |
It's hard, you know, to understand what it was like, | 0:14:59 | 0:15:02 | |
coming from a communist country, of how difficult it is to get out. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:05 | |
Well, that was the tricky bit. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:07 | |
-Yeah. -Again, if I didn't get all the way to the top, | 0:15:07 | 0:15:09 | |
I wouldn't have gotten the visa to get out of the country, so you... | 0:15:09 | 0:15:13 | |
Was that added motivation, in a way? | 0:15:13 | 0:15:15 | |
Yes, absolutely. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:16 | |
I knew this was a way out, for me, of the country. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:20 | |
It might be thought she was born at the wrong time - | 0:15:20 | 0:15:23 | |
to be born in a totalitarian state. | 0:15:23 | 0:15:25 | |
But where she was born and how she was born | 0:15:25 | 0:15:27 | |
and her sexual identity | 0:15:27 | 0:15:30 | |
gave her some of this extraordinary internal energy | 0:15:30 | 0:15:34 | |
to fight, fight, fight. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:36 | |
And if you'd taken that away from her - | 0:15:36 | 0:15:38 | |
if exactly the same genetic package that is Martina | 0:15:38 | 0:15:41 | |
had been born 30 years later | 0:15:41 | 0:15:43 | |
and grown up after the Velvet Revolution | 0:15:43 | 0:15:46 | |
in what would then be the Czech Republic - | 0:15:46 | 0:15:49 | |
would she have the same fight in her tennis game? | 0:15:49 | 0:15:51 | |
What really helped the travel plans - Martina's escape plans - | 0:15:54 | 0:15:58 | |
was being national champion at the age of 17 | 0:15:58 | 0:16:02 | |
and leading Czechoslovakia to victory in the Federation Cup. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:05 | |
To compete in the international team event, | 0:16:06 | 0:16:08 | |
you couldn't stay put behind the Iron Curtain. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:11 | |
You had to travel | 0:16:11 | 0:16:13 | |
and Martina found herself travelling back and forth to America. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:17 | |
It just felt so luxurious | 0:16:19 | 0:16:21 | |
and easy and free. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:23 | |
The Western culture was very much craved here. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:28 | |
And we would listen to ABBA and Diana Ross and Neil Diamond, | 0:16:28 | 0:16:32 | |
Elton John, of course. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:33 | |
So, you brought a bit of that back. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:35 | |
And brought tapes, cassettes. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:38 | |
She goes, "I want to be number one in the world and the only way | 0:16:38 | 0:16:41 | |
"I can become number one in the world is if I live over here, | 0:16:41 | 0:16:43 | |
"train over here and have the freedom | 0:16:43 | 0:16:46 | |
"to train the way that I want to | 0:16:46 | 0:16:48 | |
"and make the choices that I want to." | 0:16:48 | 0:16:50 | |
I remember studying English, | 0:16:50 | 0:16:51 | |
and there was a picture of the Empire State Building, | 0:16:51 | 0:16:54 | |
and I was telling my roommate, | 0:16:54 | 0:16:56 | |
"I'm going there next year. | 0:16:56 | 0:16:58 | |
"I'm going to be in New York." | 0:16:58 | 0:17:00 | |
So, I was the bee's knees, | 0:17:00 | 0:17:02 | |
cos I was going to get out of the country and go to New York City. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:05 | |
It was something special in our country - | 0:17:05 | 0:17:09 | |
communist country - | 0:17:09 | 0:17:10 | |
it was like to travel to the moon now. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:13 | |
# Have you been an un-American? | 0:17:13 | 0:17:16 | |
# Just you and your idol singing falsetto 'bout | 0:17:16 | 0:17:20 | |
# Leather, leather everywhere and... # | 0:17:20 | 0:17:22 | |
Well, I think it was a culture shock for her | 0:17:22 | 0:17:25 | |
when she came over to America, | 0:17:25 | 0:17:26 | |
and she was like a kid in a candy store. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:28 | |
# All night | 0:17:28 | 0:17:32 | |
# She wants the young American... # | 0:17:32 | 0:17:35 | |
I first met Martina when she was 17, | 0:17:35 | 0:17:38 | |
and you could tell right away she was going to be, like, number one, | 0:17:38 | 0:17:41 | |
if she put her mind to it. | 0:17:41 | 0:17:43 | |
At the beginning, | 0:17:43 | 0:17:44 | |
when she first got to America, | 0:17:44 | 0:17:46 | |
all she did was eat and have fun | 0:17:46 | 0:17:48 | |
and tried to be more American than Americans. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:50 | |
She was eating pancakes and hamburgers | 0:17:50 | 0:17:53 | |
and her diet was a bit off. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:55 | |
But she had NO luxuries in Prague, Czechoslovakia, | 0:17:55 | 0:18:00 | |
and she went wild for a little bit. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:02 | |
# Young American | 0:18:03 | 0:18:04 | |
# Young American... # | 0:18:04 | 0:18:06 | |
You enjoyed everything in America, it was well documented. | 0:18:09 | 0:18:12 | |
You put on quite a few pounds? | 0:18:12 | 0:18:14 | |
I put on so much weight the first two weeks, | 0:18:14 | 0:18:17 | |
I had to buy shorts in Dallas. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:19 | |
The second week on tour, I had to buy me a new pair of shorts | 0:18:19 | 0:18:22 | |
because I couldn't fit into my normal clothes. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:25 | |
So when Olga Morozova saw me the third tournament, she... | 0:18:25 | 0:18:28 | |
First she didn't say anything. She just went... | 0:18:28 | 0:18:30 | |
This is what she did to me, instead of saying hello - | 0:18:30 | 0:18:33 | |
she just blew up her cheeks. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:35 | |
Great. I thought I just looked more feminine, you know? | 0:18:36 | 0:18:38 | |
Because all my muscles were disappearing. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:41 | |
I had little female curves | 0:18:41 | 0:18:43 | |
and, you know, I'd have two hamburgers for lunch | 0:18:43 | 0:18:46 | |
and two scoops of ice cream. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:48 | |
Breakfast, I would have eggs AND bacon AND pancakes | 0:18:48 | 0:18:52 | |
AND cereal. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:53 | |
I never had cereal growing up, | 0:18:53 | 0:18:54 | |
never had pancakes growing up, so I just got heavy. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
I put on 20 pounds in two weeks. | 0:18:57 | 0:18:59 | |
That's hard to do when you're playing tennis. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:01 | |
Living the good life | 0:19:02 | 0:19:04 | |
was hardly going to please the regime back home. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:07 | |
To compete in the major tournaments | 0:19:07 | 0:19:10 | |
in the summer of 1975, she'd need a new visa. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:13 | |
Her father come to me and says, "Jan, you know, | 0:19:16 | 0:19:19 | |
"the Federation wants to stop Martina to go to the US Open. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:23 | |
"Could you help?" | 0:19:23 | 0:19:25 | |
I went to the Minister of Sports, you know, and I said, | 0:19:25 | 0:19:28 | |
"You cannot do this. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:30 | |
"And if you stop her for now, what is going to happen in the future?" | 0:19:30 | 0:19:33 | |
Imagine you want to go play the Italian - | 0:19:35 | 0:19:37 | |
"Oh, no, we're not going to give you the visas, | 0:19:37 | 0:19:39 | |
"because you're too Americanised." | 0:19:39 | 0:19:40 | |
And then, I thought I cannot be in this limbo forever. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:44 | |
And so, that's why I left. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:46 | |
So... | 0:19:46 | 0:19:47 | |
-Who did you discuss that with? Or was it...? -My dad. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:51 | |
My dad knew that I was probably going to stay | 0:19:51 | 0:19:54 | |
-and he said, "Don't tell Mum." -Wow. -"If you go, don't come back." | 0:19:54 | 0:19:58 | |
But did he encourage you or did he just say...? | 0:19:58 | 0:20:00 | |
Oh, he just said, you know, | 0:20:00 | 0:20:03 | |
"That's the only choice you have, if you really want to play." | 0:20:03 | 0:20:06 | |
So, I didn't tell Mum. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:11 | |
She was calling from the United States and I told her on the phone, | 0:20:12 | 0:20:15 | |
"Don't come back. Even if they will tell you anything, don't come back." | 0:20:15 | 0:20:19 | |
Because they would put her to prison, of course. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:22 | |
She was already a famous tennis player | 0:20:22 | 0:20:25 | |
and those who tried to defect, or defected, they always got prison. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:30 | |
That was a bold, brave move. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:31 | |
I don't think I could have done that. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:33 | |
I know I couldn't have done that - | 0:20:33 | 0:20:35 | |
to be distanced from my family, and she... | 0:20:35 | 0:20:39 | |
I remember asking her, "What about your family?" | 0:20:39 | 0:20:41 | |
She goes, "I don't know when I'll ever see them." | 0:20:41 | 0:20:43 | |
Once, after I lost to Chris in the semis at the US Open, | 0:20:43 | 0:20:46 | |
the next day I went to | 0:20:46 | 0:20:47 | |
the Immigration and Naturalization Service, | 0:20:47 | 0:20:50 | |
and the next morning it was in the paper already. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:53 | |
They told me not to say anything, | 0:20:53 | 0:20:54 | |
but the next morning it's in the Washington Post, | 0:20:54 | 0:20:56 | |
that a famous tennis player defected. | 0:20:56 | 0:20:58 | |
My goal in my life is to become number one. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:01 | |
You know, I want to play as much as I can and... | 0:21:01 | 0:21:03 | |
..when I want and where I want. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:07 | |
And I didn't get this chance while being under the Czech government. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:11 | |
Have you been thinking about this move for a long while? | 0:21:11 | 0:21:14 | |
Well, I've been thinking about it, you know, for a long time, | 0:21:14 | 0:21:17 | |
but I never really thought that I would do it. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:19 | |
I thought I might, you know, | 0:21:19 | 0:21:21 | |
get married some day and maybe live in the States, | 0:21:21 | 0:21:24 | |
but I seriously started thinking about it | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
about a couple of weeks ago. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:29 | |
In the communist country, when somebody left the country, | 0:21:29 | 0:21:31 | |
or somebody of your family | 0:21:31 | 0:21:33 | |
was politically active against communists, | 0:21:33 | 0:21:36 | |
so the rest of the family somehow suffered. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:40 | |
Kids couldn't go to school, | 0:21:40 | 0:21:42 | |
or people lost their jobs, | 0:21:42 | 0:21:44 | |
they lost their house, | 0:21:44 | 0:21:46 | |
so people didn't talk to us. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:48 | |
They didn't want to be friends with us any more because Martina was bad, | 0:21:48 | 0:21:52 | |
like they wrote very badly about her in newspapers, | 0:21:52 | 0:21:55 | |
that she left the country and... | 0:21:55 | 0:21:57 | |
I left the country, | 0:21:58 | 0:21:59 | |
because I had some problems with the director of the school, | 0:21:59 | 0:22:03 | |
who actually told me that she is a shame for the nation, | 0:22:03 | 0:22:07 | |
that there is no place for me at university | 0:22:07 | 0:22:09 | |
and show me the door and say, "There you go." | 0:22:09 | 0:22:12 | |
When people ask me, "What are your regrets?" | 0:22:12 | 0:22:14 | |
I said I regret that I had to do that. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:17 | |
That I had to leave my family. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:18 | |
I had to leave my, you know, home country | 0:22:18 | 0:22:21 | |
and leave everything behind. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:23 | |
It was like she died. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:28 | |
It was so sad, you can't imagine it. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:31 | |
I admire her courage, because she was number one, OK, | 0:22:31 | 0:22:35 | |
she had money after that, | 0:22:35 | 0:22:37 | |
but to be alone, and she was 17, 18 years old. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:42 | |
I was a little bit scared for her, because I knew she was immature. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:48 | |
She was 18-year-old kid and she... | 0:22:48 | 0:22:52 | |
I was wondering whether she'll be able to handle it, | 0:22:52 | 0:22:55 | |
and that was one thing - she was able to find good people | 0:22:55 | 0:22:57 | |
to give her good advice. | 0:22:57 | 0:22:59 | |
Professional tennis in the 1970s | 0:23:00 | 0:23:02 | |
was in the throes of a capitalist makeover. | 0:23:02 | 0:23:06 | |
Players were forming their own tours, | 0:23:06 | 0:23:08 | |
pushing against the old order. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:10 | |
They were pushing themselves | 0:23:11 | 0:23:13 | |
and Martina soon spotted who were the best - and why. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:17 | |
I think when we went down to the practice courts, | 0:23:17 | 0:23:20 | |
with the likes of Harry Hopman and the Australians that, you know, | 0:23:20 | 0:23:23 | |
I think Martina recognised that... | 0:23:23 | 0:23:26 | |
why we were winning. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:28 | |
It was because we were fitter. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:30 | |
Martina, she was young and was getting through the matches, | 0:23:31 | 0:23:36 | |
but as she climbed up the ladder | 0:23:36 | 0:23:37 | |
and got into the quarterfinals and semifinals | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
and then winning some matches, | 0:23:40 | 0:23:42 | |
that gives you the experience and the determination to say, | 0:23:42 | 0:23:47 | |
"Hey, I'm here to play and I'm here to win." | 0:23:47 | 0:23:51 | |
MUSIC: Popcorn by Hot Butter | 0:23:51 | 0:23:54 | |
Chris Evert was an early friend and doubles partner. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:57 | |
CHEERING | 0:23:58 | 0:24:00 | |
Together, they won Wimbledon in 1976. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:03 | |
A Grand Slam title, to add to the doubles they'd won | 0:24:03 | 0:24:06 | |
at the French Open the year before. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:08 | |
In singles, the friend was a rival. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:14 | |
The core and the essence of Martina hasn't changed. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:18 | |
She is calmer, I think. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:20 | |
As she gets older, she bloss... I think we're both late bloomers. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:23 | |
I think that tennis bit, | 0:24:23 | 0:24:24 | |
when you're in such an intense, competitive environment, | 0:24:24 | 0:24:26 | |
it's not conducive to growing, necessarily, as a person. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:31 | |
Martina's breakthrough moment came in the Wimbledon final of 1978. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:36 | |
She would become champion and world number one | 0:24:36 | 0:24:39 | |
for the first time. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:42 | |
I turned 16 during that championship | 0:24:42 | 0:24:44 | |
and I just remember the joy | 0:24:44 | 0:24:46 | |
of her winning her first major. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:48 | |
Who knew that it would be the first of 18? | 0:24:48 | 0:24:51 | |
I was happy that, even though I had lost in the middle weekend, | 0:24:58 | 0:25:01 | |
that I stayed to watch her defeat Chrissy, | 0:25:01 | 0:25:05 | |
live and in person, | 0:25:05 | 0:25:07 | |
because in such an early part of MY playing career, | 0:25:07 | 0:25:10 | |
it was important to see that kind of match in person. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:14 | |
-Yeah! -CHEERING | 0:25:16 | 0:25:17 | |
That's it. She's won it. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:19 | |
If we wanted to see her on the TV, | 0:25:22 | 0:25:25 | |
we had to go to Pilsen, close to the border to the West, | 0:25:25 | 0:25:28 | |
and we had some friends and they showed German TV. | 0:25:28 | 0:25:31 | |
So we could see her playing on the TV. | 0:25:31 | 0:25:34 | |
Czech TV didn't show it. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:36 | |
They would show until I started winning | 0:25:36 | 0:25:38 | |
and then they wouldn't show it. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:39 | |
That's how people knew I was in the finals - | 0:25:39 | 0:25:41 | |
when they didn't show the final. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:43 | |
When I lost early, then they showed the final. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:45 | |
They would write about the tournament | 0:25:45 | 0:25:47 | |
and then, kind of, ignore my half of the draw. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:51 | |
And when I got to the finals, they stopped talking about it. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:53 | |
That's how people knew I was winning, | 0:25:53 | 0:25:55 | |
when there was nothing in the paper. | 0:25:55 | 0:25:58 | |
You know, she was playing | 0:25:58 | 0:25:59 | |
and we were very nervous, it was terrible. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:01 | |
Mamma had to take a cognac. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:03 | |
Father, a little brandy. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:05 | |
You know. And after a match, "Hah!" | 0:26:05 | 0:26:07 | |
Mrs Jana Navratilova hadn't seen her daughter | 0:26:10 | 0:26:13 | |
since she defected to the West four years ago. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:16 | |
But today, she was able to watch her daughter | 0:26:16 | 0:26:18 | |
as she played her opening match on the Centre Court, | 0:26:18 | 0:26:21 | |
in defence of the title she won last year. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:23 | |
Permission was finally granted, | 0:26:23 | 0:26:25 | |
when the All England Club contacted | 0:26:25 | 0:26:27 | |
the Prime Minister of Czechoslovakia. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:29 | |
It's like long-lost daughter or son coming from war, almost. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:33 | |
At some point, we didn't even know | 0:26:33 | 0:26:35 | |
if we would ever see each other again, | 0:26:35 | 0:26:38 | |
and it's... It all happened so quickly, that we really didn't... | 0:26:38 | 0:26:41 | |
Neither one of us was really hoping to get it done, | 0:26:41 | 0:26:44 | |
but when it finally happened, it was just very thrilling, | 0:26:44 | 0:26:47 | |
you know, you can't really describe it. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:49 | |
It's four years since you last saw her in the flesh. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:52 | |
-Four and a half. -How has she changed? | 0:26:52 | 0:26:54 | |
-She is now very... -Skinny. -..skinny. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:58 | |
And for me, is very, very beautiful. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:01 | |
Mrs Navratilova, nice picture together. | 0:27:01 | 0:27:04 | |
Having eaten on arrival in America, | 0:27:04 | 0:27:07 | |
Martina was now burning up the calories. | 0:27:07 | 0:27:09 | |
This was a new regime | 0:27:09 | 0:27:12 | |
of mental strength and fitness. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:14 | |
By the late '70s, early '80s, | 0:27:14 | 0:27:16 | |
we were ready to talk about nutrition and working out | 0:27:16 | 0:27:19 | |
and weights and all that - and with her physique, | 0:27:19 | 0:27:22 | |
she was just perfect to really push the game forward. | 0:27:22 | 0:27:27 | |
Just getting more information about nutrition | 0:27:27 | 0:27:30 | |
and how to cross-train more, Martina was amazing. | 0:27:30 | 0:27:33 | |
Every week, she'd always want to lift weights | 0:27:33 | 0:27:35 | |
at least once, to maintain. | 0:27:35 | 0:27:36 | |
# Let's get physical... # | 0:27:36 | 0:27:39 | |
This was taking the women's game | 0:27:39 | 0:27:41 | |
into a new dimension - a new domination. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:44 | |
Even amongst the best sportsmen and women, | 0:27:44 | 0:27:47 | |
there are very few people who can come back year after year | 0:27:47 | 0:27:49 | |
to take the top prizes again and again. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:52 | |
I guess I started the fitness craze, you know, | 0:27:52 | 0:27:56 | |
in that I started working out off the court. | 0:27:56 | 0:27:59 | |
I didn't just do my training on the court, | 0:27:59 | 0:28:00 | |
I did other sports. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:02 | |
And so, I guess I was the pioneer in that, | 0:28:02 | 0:28:04 | |
while everything got more technical and technological. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:08 | |
# Physical, physical... # | 0:28:08 | 0:28:10 | |
By the mid-1980s, she was totally dominant... | 0:28:10 | 0:28:13 | |
..winning six consecutive Grand Slam singles titles. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:18 | |
Do you have any advice to young people watching Record Breakers, | 0:28:20 | 0:28:23 | |
who would like to be the best in the world? | 0:28:23 | 0:28:25 | |
First of all, do your best. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:27 | |
That's number... That goes without saying. | 0:28:27 | 0:28:29 | |
You know, you can't slouch off | 0:28:29 | 0:28:31 | |
and expect for things to fall into your lap - | 0:28:31 | 0:28:33 | |
you have to give it your best effort. | 0:28:33 | 0:28:35 | |
I agree with her there. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:36 | |
She's right on the money. And, boy, was she fit! | 0:28:36 | 0:28:39 | |
My generation were the transition generation, | 0:28:41 | 0:28:43 | |
from amateur to professional tennis - we had both. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:46 | |
And then, the second generation is your Chris and Martina, | 0:28:46 | 0:28:50 | |
and so, the first generation was so lucky | 0:28:50 | 0:28:53 | |
to have the second generation. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:55 | |
They were true superstars. | 0:28:55 | 0:28:57 | |
Martina and Chris had the greatest rivalry in the sport, ever. | 0:28:57 | 0:29:01 | |
If they had been men, they would talk about it constantly. | 0:29:01 | 0:29:04 | |
Martina and Chris were that exceptional. | 0:29:04 | 0:29:07 | |
At their peak, they met in 14 Grand Slam finals. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:12 | |
Former doubles partners, | 0:29:13 | 0:29:15 | |
locked into an individual rivalry | 0:29:15 | 0:29:18 | |
that spanned more than a decade. | 0:29:18 | 0:29:20 | |
I appreciated her for what she did for women's tennis | 0:29:21 | 0:29:23 | |
and what she did for my game, | 0:29:23 | 0:29:25 | |
which was to lift the level - | 0:29:25 | 0:29:26 | |
and she appreciated me, I think, to have as a rival. | 0:29:26 | 0:29:29 | |
APPLAUSE AND CHEERING | 0:29:32 | 0:29:34 | |
We were lucky we had those two players. | 0:29:34 | 0:29:36 | |
They made a huge difference. | 0:29:36 | 0:29:39 | |
If we didn't have them, I don't know if we still would have a WTA tour. | 0:29:39 | 0:29:42 | |
They competed and they're trying to be friends and then they aren't, | 0:29:46 | 0:29:49 | |
because Chris cannot be friends when you're competing. | 0:29:49 | 0:29:52 | |
She told me that when I was a player. | 0:29:52 | 0:29:53 | |
She said, "Billie, I can't be your friend. | 0:29:53 | 0:29:56 | |
"Can we wait until my career is over?" Go. | 0:29:56 | 0:29:58 | |
-That's it. She's won it. -Game, set and match, Miss Navratilova. | 0:30:01 | 0:30:04 | |
1979, four years after her defection, | 0:30:04 | 0:30:08 | |
she was able to win Wimbledon in front of her mother. | 0:30:08 | 0:30:12 | |
Sometimes, it seemed she was one of the few Martina fans. | 0:30:12 | 0:30:16 | |
I was asked somewhere to list my heroes and I included Martina. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:21 | |
And one of the reasons was simply | 0:30:21 | 0:30:23 | |
the joy and excitement she gave me in tennis - | 0:30:23 | 0:30:26 | |
a new kind of thrill - | 0:30:26 | 0:30:28 | |
and also knowing that a lot of British people | 0:30:28 | 0:30:31 | |
didn't want her to win. | 0:30:31 | 0:30:33 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:30:33 | 0:30:35 | |
Of course, when you're playing against a crowd favourite | 0:30:37 | 0:30:41 | |
that has the majority of the support in the stadium, | 0:30:41 | 0:30:44 | |
you have to accept that as a reality and a fact. | 0:30:44 | 0:30:47 | |
You know, in those circumstances, | 0:30:49 | 0:30:50 | |
those are the opportunities for you to grow your character strengths. | 0:30:50 | 0:30:55 | |
I'm sure that those kind of experiences also made her tougher. | 0:30:57 | 0:31:01 | |
That's it. | 0:31:10 | 0:31:11 | |
You know, I think the beauty of our rivalry | 0:31:18 | 0:31:21 | |
is that specific point that we were so different, you know? | 0:31:21 | 0:31:24 | |
And even at a young age, I was American, | 0:31:24 | 0:31:27 | |
she was from a communist country. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:30 | |
Quiet, please, ladies and gentlemen. | 0:31:30 | 0:31:32 | |
Very emotional on the court and I was cool and calm, | 0:31:32 | 0:31:35 | |
and she was a serve-volleyer, aggressive, | 0:31:35 | 0:31:37 | |
and I was a baseliner. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:39 | |
And so she brought her set of fans to the matches | 0:31:39 | 0:31:42 | |
and I brought my set of fans to the matches | 0:31:42 | 0:31:44 | |
and, you know, that's why I think it was so interesting, | 0:31:44 | 0:31:47 | |
because of the contrast. | 0:31:47 | 0:31:48 | |
It's out, that's it. | 0:31:51 | 0:31:53 | |
Game, set and championship, Miss Navratilova. | 0:31:53 | 0:31:56 | |
We were very opposite, but deep down | 0:31:56 | 0:31:58 | |
there is a sense of compassion when the other one lost. | 0:31:58 | 0:32:01 | |
After we retired, we could just shake off | 0:32:01 | 0:32:04 | |
any sort of competitiveness, jealousy, | 0:32:04 | 0:32:07 | |
negative feeling that we had, | 0:32:07 | 0:32:08 | |
and we could just totally appreciate each other as just human beings, | 0:32:08 | 0:32:12 | |
not only as tennis players. | 0:32:12 | 0:32:13 | |
I think it's great that, at 31 years old, | 0:32:13 | 0:32:17 | |
you're still winning these types of awards. I think it's great. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:20 | |
Are you going to retire soon or let us have a chance? | 0:32:20 | 0:32:22 | |
Well, first you have to retire. | 0:32:22 | 0:32:24 | |
-You're older than I am, don't you remember? -I am? | 0:32:24 | 0:32:26 | |
At least a year. | 0:32:26 | 0:32:27 | |
They always got along better than people think. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:30 | |
Roller coaster - but, look now, they're great friends. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:33 | |
Since you haven't won too many awards this year, | 0:32:33 | 0:32:35 | |
only the two biggest tournaments | 0:32:35 | 0:32:37 | |
in the world - Wimbledon and the US Open - | 0:32:37 | 0:32:39 | |
I'd like to present this BBC Television | 0:32:39 | 0:32:41 | |
Overseas Sports Personality Award to you. | 0:32:41 | 0:32:43 | |
I think it's very merited. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:45 | |
From one personality to another, thanks. | 0:32:45 | 0:32:48 | |
We went back to Czechoslovakia when she was an American citizen, | 0:32:48 | 0:32:52 | |
and I witnessed that whole scene, which was incredible. | 0:32:52 | 0:32:55 | |
The media were there in force for | 0:32:55 | 0:32:56 | |
a homecoming that was been stoically ignored by the Czech authorities. | 0:32:56 | 0:33:00 | |
Some journalists carried photographs | 0:33:00 | 0:33:02 | |
to make sure they'd recognise the world's number one tennis player | 0:33:02 | 0:33:05 | |
when she appeared from the customs hall. | 0:33:05 | 0:33:07 | |
It was the first time that Navratilova had seen her family | 0:33:07 | 0:33:10 | |
in 11 years. | 0:33:10 | 0:33:12 | |
But what she might have hoped would be a touching moment | 0:33:12 | 0:33:15 | |
became a scramble to force her way through the arrivals lounge | 0:33:15 | 0:33:18 | |
at Prague Airport. | 0:33:18 | 0:33:19 | |
She was a non-person, | 0:33:19 | 0:33:20 | |
meaning the American team led by Chris Evert, | 0:33:20 | 0:33:23 | |
Pam Shriver, Zina Garrison, | 0:33:23 | 0:33:25 | |
but there's no mention of Martina, at all | 0:33:25 | 0:33:27 | |
in any sort of newspaper, etc. | 0:33:27 | 0:33:30 | |
We go out and the American team is introduced | 0:33:30 | 0:33:32 | |
and I looked in the corner of my eye over at the balcony, | 0:33:32 | 0:33:35 | |
where all the officials were - | 0:33:35 | 0:33:37 | |
the government officials - | 0:33:37 | 0:33:38 | |
and they just sat in their chair and didn't respond - | 0:33:38 | 0:33:41 | |
didn't clap, didn't stand up. | 0:33:41 | 0:33:43 | |
They just were, you know, poker face and just looking at the scene. | 0:33:43 | 0:33:46 | |
The fans LOVE her. | 0:33:46 | 0:33:48 | |
Got more of a standing ovation | 0:33:48 | 0:33:50 | |
then Jana Novotna and Hana Mandlikova | 0:33:50 | 0:33:52 | |
and, you know, Helena Sukova, | 0:33:52 | 0:33:55 | |
who were the Czechoslovakian team. | 0:33:55 | 0:33:57 | |
It was a delightful surprise, | 0:33:57 | 0:33:58 | |
let's put it that way, | 0:33:58 | 0:34:00 | |
for everybody who went over there partaking in this match. | 0:34:00 | 0:34:03 | |
The public embrace of Martina returning back to her homeland, | 0:34:03 | 0:34:08 | |
returning as one of the great champions of the sport of tennis - | 0:34:08 | 0:34:11 | |
seeing the public embrace was incredible. | 0:34:11 | 0:34:15 | |
Welcomed - back home and in America, | 0:34:16 | 0:34:18 | |
where her parents defected to join her. | 0:34:18 | 0:34:21 | |
Finally, acceptance of her | 0:34:21 | 0:34:23 | |
and acceptance BY her of her own feelings. | 0:34:23 | 0:34:27 | |
I really didn't figure it out | 0:34:27 | 0:34:28 | |
until I had my first relationship with a woman. | 0:34:28 | 0:34:31 | |
When it did happen, I'm like, "Oh, that's what it was!" | 0:34:31 | 0:34:33 | |
You know, because I've had these crushes, | 0:34:33 | 0:34:35 | |
but I didn't recognise them | 0:34:35 | 0:34:37 | |
as anything but just crushes on adults, you know? | 0:34:37 | 0:34:39 | |
I had crushes on men, as well. | 0:34:39 | 0:34:41 | |
But they were definitely stronger on women. | 0:34:41 | 0:34:43 | |
My dad asked, you know, | 0:34:43 | 0:34:45 | |
"We think that you're living as a man and a woman" - | 0:34:45 | 0:34:47 | |
with this woman that I was with, and I always said, if they ask me, | 0:34:47 | 0:34:50 | |
I will tell them, so that's exactly what happened. | 0:34:50 | 0:34:53 | |
You know, five years after I'd been with a woman, | 0:34:53 | 0:34:55 | |
they asked, and I said, yes, | 0:34:55 | 0:34:57 | |
and then all hell, kind of, broke loose, but... | 0:34:57 | 0:35:00 | |
You know, Dad said some things that he wished that he hadn't said, | 0:35:00 | 0:35:04 | |
but he didn't know. | 0:35:04 | 0:35:05 | |
Again, people really didn't know any better. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:07 | |
We never stopped talking or anything, but there was a tension, | 0:35:07 | 0:35:10 | |
and then my dad, he educated himself, | 0:35:10 | 0:35:13 | |
he read some books, and he says, | 0:35:13 | 0:35:15 | |
"You know, I realise now it had nothing to do with you or me. | 0:35:15 | 0:35:17 | |
"It's just, this is who you are and it's OK. | 0:35:17 | 0:35:19 | |
"I just want you to be happy." | 0:35:19 | 0:35:20 | |
And that's all you want from your parents - and this is 30 years ago. | 0:35:20 | 0:35:24 | |
You talk about your family coming over. | 0:35:24 | 0:35:26 | |
Did you buy them a separate house, | 0:35:26 | 0:35:28 | |
because you wanted to protect them from finding out? | 0:35:28 | 0:35:31 | |
Well, no. | 0:35:31 | 0:35:33 | |
I needed the space on my own, | 0:35:33 | 0:35:34 | |
even if I had been married with a man, | 0:35:34 | 0:35:36 | |
I still would have wanted that separate house, you know. | 0:35:36 | 0:35:39 | |
I'm an adult now and, you know, the parents live next door, not... | 0:35:39 | 0:35:42 | |
I mean, they live, like, three houses down. | 0:35:42 | 0:35:44 | |
So, at the end, it was all only about me being happy, | 0:35:44 | 0:35:47 | |
and does the person I'm with treat me well? | 0:35:47 | 0:35:50 | |
But her private life would be played out in public. | 0:35:51 | 0:35:55 | |
There were televised lawsuits. | 0:35:55 | 0:35:57 | |
Breaking up was hard enough, | 0:35:57 | 0:35:59 | |
but this was suffering in the glare of exposure. | 0:35:59 | 0:36:02 | |
The emotional toll was obvious, | 0:36:02 | 0:36:05 | |
the financial cost revealed for all to see. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:08 | |
What was not so clear - | 0:36:08 | 0:36:10 | |
the costs of being openly gay. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:12 | |
I knew it would cost me on many levels. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:16 | |
What I didn't realise | 0:36:16 | 0:36:17 | |
is how much it would cost me in fan support. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:20 | |
That was a very negative thing, | 0:36:20 | 0:36:21 | |
from the fans' standpoint, I mean. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:24 | |
-From crowd reaction or from letters? -Yes, crowd reaction. | 0:36:24 | 0:36:27 | |
Letters, crowd reaction, response to when I was... | 0:36:27 | 0:36:31 | |
When I would come on the court. | 0:36:31 | 0:36:33 | |
When I started winning, it really... Being gay and winning, | 0:36:33 | 0:36:36 | |
I think it was too threatening, you know? | 0:36:36 | 0:36:39 | |
It was OK to be gay as long as I was losing, | 0:36:39 | 0:36:41 | |
but when I started dominating, | 0:36:41 | 0:36:43 | |
somehow I had an "unfair advantage". | 0:36:43 | 0:36:45 | |
I don't know how! | 0:36:45 | 0:36:47 | |
Financially, it would have cost you a lot. | 0:36:47 | 0:36:50 | |
I didn't lose any deals, but I didn't get any new deals, | 0:36:50 | 0:36:53 | |
let's put it that way. | 0:36:53 | 0:36:54 | |
I had my shoes, rackets and clothing contracts always | 0:36:54 | 0:36:57 | |
and then, when I started winning, the money was better. | 0:36:57 | 0:37:00 | |
But did I ever get paid as much as Chris for the same deals? | 0:37:00 | 0:37:03 | |
I doubt it. And I certainly didn't get any outside deals | 0:37:03 | 0:37:07 | |
for, you know, Wheaties. | 0:37:07 | 0:37:09 | |
All right, here we go, it's nice and quiet. | 0:37:09 | 0:37:11 | |
Let's roll sound, roll camera, | 0:37:11 | 0:37:13 | |
set and action. | 0:37:13 | 0:37:16 | |
The world is about challenging yourself more than anyone else. | 0:37:16 | 0:37:20 | |
-And cut. That was beautiful. -All right. I'm cutting there. | 0:37:21 | 0:37:23 | |
-Was it breathy enough? -That was breathy enough, that was good. | 0:37:23 | 0:37:26 | |
'The good thing for Martina, which I was very happy about,' | 0:37:26 | 0:37:29 | |
is she was able to keep playing. | 0:37:29 | 0:37:31 | |
Here we go. We are set. | 0:37:31 | 0:37:34 | |
By doing that, the LGBT community | 0:37:34 | 0:37:36 | |
had a champion who was still playing, | 0:37:36 | 0:37:38 | |
which was thrilled. | 0:37:38 | 0:37:39 | |
You know, she's one of our - I call women sheroes. | 0:37:39 | 0:37:42 | |
It comes from her passion. As a player, she was passionate | 0:37:42 | 0:37:44 | |
and she still is, and that comes from within. | 0:37:44 | 0:37:47 | |
I mean, two people I can think of are Billie Jean and Martina | 0:37:47 | 0:37:50 | |
that have that passion. | 0:37:50 | 0:37:51 | |
They're still as passionate now - | 0:37:51 | 0:37:53 | |
more passionate - because of a few humanitarian things, | 0:37:53 | 0:37:56 | |
as well as tennis. | 0:37:56 | 0:37:57 | |
She voices her opinion, even if it's controversial, | 0:37:57 | 0:38:00 | |
even if it goes against the norm or the grain, | 0:38:00 | 0:38:03 | |
and probably made some mistakes, | 0:38:03 | 0:38:05 | |
but I think better to be that way than never to say anything. | 0:38:05 | 0:38:09 | |
Like me! | 0:38:10 | 0:38:11 | |
Hello. I'm Martina Navratilova. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:16 | |
Former number one in the world. | 0:38:16 | 0:38:17 | |
Come and have a chat with me about conquering the world. | 0:38:17 | 0:38:22 | |
I'll do it again. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:25 | |
-I think that was great. That was perfect. That was it. -Yeah? -Yeah. | 0:38:25 | 0:38:28 | |
'She's very good company. She has a very dry sense of humour | 0:38:28 | 0:38:31 | |
'and her eyes hold you. | 0:38:31 | 0:38:33 | |
'I sat next to her at Wimbledon and I was her guest -' | 0:38:33 | 0:38:36 | |
she very kindly invited me to stand in for her wife, | 0:38:36 | 0:38:39 | |
so I was her temporary wife. | 0:38:39 | 0:38:41 | |
She's the kind of person - a bit like Bob Dylan - | 0:38:41 | 0:38:43 | |
that you just don't want to get in their bad books. | 0:38:43 | 0:38:45 | |
You don't want them to give you a look of, "Who are you?" | 0:38:45 | 0:38:49 | |
She's got real presence. | 0:38:49 | 0:38:51 | |
I think she loves the sport | 0:38:52 | 0:38:54 | |
because, even a couple of years ago, | 0:38:54 | 0:38:57 | |
I saw her on the tournaments | 0:38:57 | 0:38:59 | |
and practising a lot. | 0:38:59 | 0:39:01 | |
I think that's been part of her compass in life, | 0:39:01 | 0:39:04 | |
is the great sport of tennis, | 0:39:04 | 0:39:06 | |
but she certainly is ageing gracefully | 0:39:06 | 0:39:10 | |
and, you know, now to see her | 0:39:10 | 0:39:12 | |
in a marriage partnership with Julia, | 0:39:12 | 0:39:14 | |
it's just another amazing stage of this incredible woman. | 0:39:14 | 0:39:18 | |
THEY SING | 0:39:18 | 0:39:21 | |
I guess warm people attract warm people. | 0:39:22 | 0:39:25 | |
Well, she's Russian. | 0:39:26 | 0:39:27 | |
Who knew that a Czech and a Russian would get along this well? | 0:39:27 | 0:39:30 | |
It didn't go so well back in the '60s, but here we are, | 0:39:30 | 0:39:33 | |
and for many reasons, it's emotional - | 0:39:33 | 0:39:36 | |
the impossibility of even thinking that you will get married, | 0:39:36 | 0:39:39 | |
you know, growing up as a gay woman. | 0:39:39 | 0:39:41 | |
And Julia, we meet and she has kids | 0:39:41 | 0:39:44 | |
and we just become a family, | 0:39:44 | 0:39:45 | |
and everybody's happy that we're happy, so it's great. | 0:39:45 | 0:39:48 | |
Relaxing - perhaps the secret | 0:39:50 | 0:39:51 | |
behind one of the most successful partnerships in professional tennis. | 0:39:51 | 0:39:56 | |
I always said, while we played, | 0:39:59 | 0:40:01 | |
one of the reasons why our partnership lasted so long | 0:40:01 | 0:40:03 | |
is we actually did not spend that much time together | 0:40:03 | 0:40:06 | |
away from the courts. | 0:40:06 | 0:40:08 | |
So when we were together, | 0:40:08 | 0:40:09 | |
it was really pretty fresh and fun. | 0:40:09 | 0:40:11 | |
From July 1983 to June 1985, | 0:40:13 | 0:40:17 | |
Martina and Pam won every Grand Slam doubles. | 0:40:17 | 0:40:21 | |
In total, they were undefeated in 109 matches. | 0:40:22 | 0:40:26 | |
Everybody has a lucky break, | 0:40:30 | 0:40:32 | |
I believe, in life - in their business life, | 0:40:32 | 0:40:34 | |
in their personal life - she was my lucky break. | 0:40:34 | 0:40:37 | |
There were others, but mostly with Pam, | 0:40:38 | 0:40:41 | |
Martina won more doubles titles than singles. | 0:40:41 | 0:40:44 | |
I remember telling her at 17, | 0:40:44 | 0:40:45 | |
"You're going to be the greatest player ever." | 0:40:45 | 0:40:47 | |
I always thought she was the best singles, doubles and mixed player | 0:40:47 | 0:40:50 | |
ever to have lived, up to this time. | 0:40:50 | 0:40:53 | |
I think Serena might do better, | 0:40:53 | 0:40:55 | |
but most of them don't want to play doubles and mixed, | 0:40:55 | 0:40:59 | |
like our generations. | 0:40:59 | 0:41:00 | |
Well, it's tough, no, because in terms of timings and the schedule, | 0:41:00 | 0:41:04 | |
it's difficult to play mixed and doubles, | 0:41:04 | 0:41:08 | |
because to adjust and be 100% focused in one thing | 0:41:08 | 0:41:11 | |
if you have to compete in three different tournaments, no, | 0:41:11 | 0:41:15 | |
so it's amazing all the things that she did | 0:41:15 | 0:41:18 | |
and she is one of the most important stars | 0:41:18 | 0:41:21 | |
in the world of tennis for a long time. | 0:41:21 | 0:41:24 | |
Maybe Martina forever will be | 0:41:24 | 0:41:25 | |
the best singles, doubles and mixed player to have ever lived. | 0:41:25 | 0:41:28 | |
She's such an all-around great athlete. | 0:41:28 | 0:41:30 | |
This year's Lifetime Achievement winner is Martina Navratilova. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:34 | |
In 2003, she equalled Billie Jean King's haul of Wimbledon titles - | 0:41:34 | 0:41:39 | |
20. | 0:41:39 | 0:41:41 | |
Each one has its own story. | 0:41:41 | 0:41:42 | |
When I was playing with Martina at Wimbledon in 2003 in the summer, | 0:41:42 | 0:41:46 | |
and as I jumped up for a smash, the lights went out. | 0:41:46 | 0:41:48 | |
But it wasn't really the lights went out, | 0:41:48 | 0:41:51 | |
because you're playing in broad daylight, | 0:41:51 | 0:41:53 | |
but it was I lost my vision. | 0:41:53 | 0:41:55 | |
And I had the presence of mind | 0:41:55 | 0:41:56 | |
to cover my head with my hands to protect myself, | 0:41:56 | 0:41:58 | |
and I came down like a ton of bricks. | 0:41:58 | 0:42:00 | |
And when Martina came to me and she tapped me on the head, | 0:42:00 | 0:42:04 | |
she realised I was burning up with fever. | 0:42:04 | 0:42:06 | |
Well, I did not want to tell her that I was playing with 104.3 fever, | 0:42:06 | 0:42:09 | |
I did not want to tell her | 0:42:09 | 0:42:10 | |
that I had this thumping headache for 48 hours | 0:42:10 | 0:42:12 | |
and I wasn't feeling good, at all, | 0:42:12 | 0:42:14 | |
because I knew she wouldn't let me play. | 0:42:14 | 0:42:17 | |
So, I persevered through it and we won Wimbledon. | 0:42:17 | 0:42:19 | |
But the next morning, | 0:42:19 | 0:42:21 | |
I went back to Florida and I was diagnosed with a tumour in my head | 0:42:21 | 0:42:24 | |
and I was very lucky that it wasn't something permanent. | 0:42:24 | 0:42:27 | |
I think you'll be surprised | 0:42:27 | 0:42:28 | |
to see the person walking out here with the trophy. | 0:42:28 | 0:42:30 | |
You don't know he's here, | 0:42:30 | 0:42:31 | |
but he wanted to be a part of your celebration - | 0:42:31 | 0:42:33 | |
-it is your mixed-doubles partner, Leander Paes. -Are you kidding?! | 0:42:33 | 0:42:37 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:42:37 | 0:42:39 | |
'I'm very emotional about Martina.' | 0:42:41 | 0:42:43 | |
'Martina is just someone | 0:42:44 | 0:42:46 | |
'that's not just a champion of tennis, | 0:42:46 | 0:42:49 | |
'but she's a champion of life. | 0:42:49 | 0:42:51 | |
'When I was in hospital, my 9pm phone call was always her.' | 0:42:51 | 0:42:55 | |
I just feel that I'm a blessed man | 0:42:55 | 0:42:56 | |
to have Martina as one of my best friends. | 0:42:56 | 0:42:59 | |
I think you'll be back next year, won't you? | 0:42:59 | 0:43:01 | |
I'll definitely be here, whether I'm playing or not. But I'll be here. | 0:43:01 | 0:43:04 | |
-Thank you. -Thank you. | 0:43:04 | 0:43:05 | |
Well done to Leander Paes and Martina Navratilova! | 0:43:05 | 0:43:08 | |
She would play on. | 0:43:10 | 0:43:12 | |
Three years after this, she'd win her last major title - | 0:43:12 | 0:43:15 | |
the mixed doubles at the US Open, | 0:43:15 | 0:43:17 | |
a month short of her 50th birthday. | 0:43:17 | 0:43:20 | |
Martina - more appreciated with each passing year, | 0:43:21 | 0:43:24 | |
with each passing tear. | 0:43:24 | 0:43:26 | |
At home in America, at home here on the green grass of Wimbledon, | 0:43:26 | 0:43:31 | |
and in the homeland she so dramatically left as a teenager. | 0:43:31 | 0:43:34 | |
Now a citizen of two countries - | 0:43:36 | 0:43:38 | |
America and, since 2008, | 0:43:38 | 0:43:41 | |
the Czech Republic. | 0:43:41 | 0:43:42 | |
So, she can easily relive her Prague childhood - | 0:43:42 | 0:43:46 | |
every last bit of it. | 0:43:46 | 0:43:48 | |
At least you can trust your dentist. | 0:43:48 | 0:43:50 | |
I hope so! | 0:43:50 | 0:43:52 | |
Severely testing family love, | 0:43:52 | 0:43:55 | |
the dentist here is her younger sister, Jana. | 0:43:55 | 0:43:59 | |
She's laughing. | 0:43:59 | 0:44:01 | |
She's a sadist. | 0:44:01 | 0:44:03 | |
She's really going to enjoy this. | 0:44:03 | 0:44:04 | |
What was I thinking? | 0:44:04 | 0:44:06 | |
-WHIRRING -Ah! | 0:44:06 | 0:44:08 | |
No, no, no, no. That's not funny. | 0:44:09 | 0:44:12 | |
'She loves reading a book, eating - she loves to eat.' | 0:44:12 | 0:44:15 | |
She's always very happy when I cook for her and I always ask her, | 0:44:15 | 0:44:18 | |
"What do you want? What should I make for you when you come?" | 0:44:18 | 0:44:21 | |
And she says, "Oh, do you have something sweet?" | 0:44:21 | 0:44:23 | |
"Could you do me a palatschinke?" - | 0:44:23 | 0:44:25 | |
it's a crepe she like. And then she relax and is happy. | 0:44:25 | 0:44:29 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:44:29 | 0:44:31 | |
We're going to go for lunch now. | 0:44:31 | 0:44:33 | |
Test the teeth out. | 0:44:33 | 0:44:34 | |
See you later. Bye. | 0:44:34 | 0:44:36 | |
Her hometown has changed over the years, but not much. | 0:44:43 | 0:44:46 | |
There are still no traffic lights, yet it's home. | 0:44:46 | 0:44:50 | |
And somewhere, she can share a cake or two | 0:44:50 | 0:44:53 | |
with the girl she first sat beside in school. | 0:44:53 | 0:44:57 | |
-And their family lived in there? -Yeah, they never moved. | 0:44:59 | 0:45:02 | |
I mean, that was their house. | 0:45:02 | 0:45:03 | |
And I think if my parents had not moved to the States for a year, | 0:45:03 | 0:45:06 | |
we would still be in that house. | 0:45:06 | 0:45:08 | |
Instead of, you know, where my sister is now. | 0:45:08 | 0:45:10 | |
Was that sad for your parents, | 0:45:10 | 0:45:11 | |
-to come back and not go back into their house? -Yeah. | 0:45:11 | 0:45:14 | |
Yeah, it was difficult, | 0:45:14 | 0:45:15 | |
because it was not just a matter of...emotions, | 0:45:15 | 0:45:19 | |
but it was a matter of inconvenience, | 0:45:19 | 0:45:20 | |
because it was difficult to find a house | 0:45:20 | 0:45:23 | |
and they wanted to live in this town. | 0:45:23 | 0:45:25 | |
My dad called and said, you know, | 0:45:25 | 0:45:26 | |
"We found a place", so I sent him 50,000, | 0:45:26 | 0:45:28 | |
they bought the house and that was that. | 0:45:28 | 0:45:30 | |
But they were just lucky that they were able to even get it. | 0:45:30 | 0:45:33 | |
So, this building was... | 0:45:33 | 0:45:35 | |
-That's the Sokol, so the gym is in this building here. -What's Sokol? | 0:45:35 | 0:45:39 | |
Sokol, he was the guy that started these clubs for exercise. | 0:45:39 | 0:45:45 | |
And fitness has always been a major part of your life. | 0:45:45 | 0:45:48 | |
Raising two kids in America, | 0:45:48 | 0:45:49 | |
you have to be, you know, there's so many... | 0:45:49 | 0:45:52 | |
Yes. Julia was always very strict with the kids, | 0:45:52 | 0:45:55 | |
you know, very natural, healthy lifestyle. | 0:45:55 | 0:45:58 | |
TRANSLATION: | 0:45:58 | 0:46:01 | |
-Could you hear her chewing? -Yes, I could hear her chewing. | 0:46:05 | 0:46:08 | |
Somebody I know bought them chewing gum. | 0:46:10 | 0:46:12 | |
-I never buy them chewing gum. -I didn't buy them chewing gum. | 0:46:12 | 0:46:14 | |
Do I need to be the police and check everything you do? | 0:46:14 | 0:46:19 | |
-We don't allow you to use... -It was in the candy. | 0:46:19 | 0:46:22 | |
-You allow us to chew. -No. -No. | 0:46:22 | 0:46:24 | |
In the States it's a little more difficult, | 0:46:25 | 0:46:27 | |
because there is just so much junk food out there, | 0:46:27 | 0:46:30 | |
but we prepare their lunches | 0:46:30 | 0:46:32 | |
and they get a soft drink | 0:46:32 | 0:46:35 | |
maybe four times a year, you know. | 0:46:35 | 0:46:37 | |
So, we restrict them, but they like it | 0:46:37 | 0:46:39 | |
because they realise that it's better for them as well. | 0:46:39 | 0:46:42 | |
Especially the older one, you know - | 0:46:42 | 0:46:43 | |
she's 14 now, so she has to be careful with her skin, | 0:46:43 | 0:46:46 | |
so it's a little bit easier, but they're good kids. | 0:46:46 | 0:46:49 | |
-They're easy. -And they're at the Chris Evert Academy. | 0:46:49 | 0:46:51 | |
And right now, they're both at Chris Evert's Academy. | 0:46:51 | 0:46:54 | |
Go figure! How funny is that? | 0:46:54 | 0:46:56 | |
Do you have to get a pass to go in there? | 0:46:56 | 0:46:58 | |
Chris gives me a really good deal. So, life is funny. | 0:46:58 | 0:47:01 | |
How would you feel if one of them wanted to play tennis? | 0:47:01 | 0:47:04 | |
I'd love it. I mean, I'm certainly not pushing them into it, | 0:47:04 | 0:47:07 | |
but if they want it and they love it, it's great. | 0:47:07 | 0:47:09 | |
When you think about what you had to go through as a kid now, | 0:47:09 | 0:47:12 | |
and how lucky, you know, they are | 0:47:12 | 0:47:14 | |
in just being able to go to the Academy. | 0:47:14 | 0:47:15 | |
It's different. | 0:47:15 | 0:47:17 | |
Well, yeah, life is complicated | 0:47:17 | 0:47:20 | |
and it's difficult in different ways, | 0:47:20 | 0:47:22 | |
but, yeah, I had a great life here, you know? | 0:47:22 | 0:47:25 | |
OK, so I only had one pair of tennis shoes | 0:47:25 | 0:47:27 | |
and I only had two pairs of pants | 0:47:27 | 0:47:28 | |
but, you know, like I said, I was never hungry, | 0:47:28 | 0:47:31 | |
I was never cold, so life is good. | 0:47:31 | 0:47:33 | |
A breast cancer scare in 2010 | 0:47:35 | 0:47:38 | |
motivated Martina to campaign and encourage women | 0:47:38 | 0:47:41 | |
to have regular check-ups. | 0:47:41 | 0:47:43 | |
Mine was four years in between and I didn't realise it at the time. | 0:47:44 | 0:47:47 | |
I just, kind of, put it off. | 0:47:47 | 0:47:49 | |
I moved, so I changed doctors, | 0:47:49 | 0:47:50 | |
and I'm like, I'll do it, you know, next spring, | 0:47:50 | 0:47:53 | |
and then the next thing you know, you're in Australia | 0:47:53 | 0:47:55 | |
and you still haven't done it. | 0:47:55 | 0:47:56 | |
And so, it might have not turned into anything. | 0:47:56 | 0:48:00 | |
It was DCIS, but it can become cancer. | 0:48:00 | 0:48:04 | |
It can spread and it's risky, obviously, | 0:48:04 | 0:48:07 | |
and it was terrifying. | 0:48:07 | 0:48:09 | |
Well, when I heard she had cancer, | 0:48:09 | 0:48:12 | |
it was a tough one for me, because I lost a sister to cancer, | 0:48:12 | 0:48:16 | |
I lost my first husband to cancer and I lost my dad to cancer. | 0:48:16 | 0:48:20 | |
So, when it happened, | 0:48:20 | 0:48:22 | |
we didn't speak about it all that much. | 0:48:22 | 0:48:24 | |
I didn't offer to be that close support | 0:48:24 | 0:48:28 | |
and I did it, basically, because, you know, | 0:48:28 | 0:48:30 | |
I haven't had the most positive experience. | 0:48:30 | 0:48:32 | |
But she's, sort of, a close... | 0:48:32 | 0:48:34 | |
You know, she's an example of a close friend that I can say, | 0:48:34 | 0:48:39 | |
"Hey, I have somebody really close to me that is positive, | 0:48:39 | 0:48:42 | |
"has a positive result." | 0:48:42 | 0:48:43 | |
It's life. And it's... | 0:48:45 | 0:48:48 | |
I don't think Martina thinks like this. | 0:48:48 | 0:48:50 | |
She doesn't think it's a pity for her or something, you know. | 0:48:50 | 0:48:54 | |
She's going on and doing things, | 0:48:54 | 0:48:58 | |
so she doesn't think, "Oh, I am sick." | 0:48:58 | 0:49:00 | |
I don't think so. | 0:49:00 | 0:49:01 | |
I knew the diagnosis of the illness, | 0:49:01 | 0:49:04 | |
so I had good hope | 0:49:04 | 0:49:06 | |
and I knew that she will recover, | 0:49:06 | 0:49:09 | |
so I knew it, so to say. | 0:49:09 | 0:49:12 | |
So I was happy when everything was over, yeah. | 0:49:12 | 0:49:15 | |
'It's just in God's hands and the surgeon, and fate or whatever.' | 0:49:15 | 0:49:20 | |
You just, kind of, hope and, you know, it's been five years. | 0:49:20 | 0:49:23 | |
SHE KNOCKS | 0:49:23 | 0:49:24 | |
Yeah. And it's an important lesson that we all... | 0:49:24 | 0:49:26 | |
-That we've all learned from that. -Absolutely. | 0:49:26 | 0:49:28 | |
You decided you wanted to talk about it, confront it, | 0:49:28 | 0:49:32 | |
and show how to deal with it. | 0:49:32 | 0:49:34 | |
Well, again, it's like being in the closet about something. | 0:49:34 | 0:49:38 | |
So when I first knew what I had, | 0:49:38 | 0:49:40 | |
and I had to have surgery, I didn't talk about it - | 0:49:40 | 0:49:43 | |
I thought, "I don't want to go public!" | 0:49:43 | 0:49:45 | |
But then when I really found out more about what happened to me, | 0:49:45 | 0:49:48 | |
why I had it, what I had, | 0:49:48 | 0:49:49 | |
how important it was to get those yearly checkups, | 0:49:49 | 0:49:52 | |
I'm like, "I can't keep this quiet." | 0:49:52 | 0:49:54 | |
I, kind of, felt that I had a duty to speak out, | 0:49:54 | 0:49:56 | |
to encourage women to have that yearly check-up. | 0:49:56 | 0:49:59 | |
'She's incredibly hard-working. | 0:50:00 | 0:50:02 | |
'When we were doing one of our early French Opens, | 0:50:02 | 0:50:04 | |
'we were fully prepared to fill in for her | 0:50:04 | 0:50:07 | |
'whatever she needed, of course. | 0:50:07 | 0:50:09 | |
'She said, "Don't be silly, I'm going to work."' | 0:50:09 | 0:50:11 | |
She would do her treatment in the morning | 0:50:11 | 0:50:13 | |
before coming to the tournament, | 0:50:13 | 0:50:15 | |
then broadcast the tournament | 0:50:15 | 0:50:17 | |
and then go out and practise, | 0:50:17 | 0:50:18 | |
because she was going to play in the Legends tournament at the end - | 0:50:18 | 0:50:21 | |
and won it. | 0:50:21 | 0:50:22 | |
She has the world's biggest heart | 0:50:22 | 0:50:25 | |
and she has - ironically - very little, if any, ego. | 0:50:25 | 0:50:29 | |
It's remarkable. | 0:50:29 | 0:50:30 | |
She's not a tough gal, by any stretch. | 0:50:30 | 0:50:32 | |
She's got a very dry sense of humour, | 0:50:32 | 0:50:34 | |
and she's also fearless and adventurous. | 0:50:34 | 0:50:37 | |
-So, Julia Lemigova... -No, it's not happening. | 0:50:37 | 0:50:40 | |
Please marry me. | 0:50:40 | 0:50:42 | |
Please marry me. | 0:50:42 | 0:50:43 | |
I don't care how times you've won on that court, | 0:50:45 | 0:50:47 | |
to propose to somebody, in effect, live, | 0:50:47 | 0:50:50 | |
in front of millions of people, | 0:50:50 | 0:50:52 | |
it is a great reflection of who Martina is. | 0:50:52 | 0:50:55 | |
You say yes? | 0:50:55 | 0:50:56 | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:50:56 | 0:50:59 | |
# Hey, kids | 0:51:02 | 0:51:03 | |
# Shake it loose together | 0:51:03 | 0:51:05 | |
# The spotlight's hitting something | 0:51:05 | 0:51:07 | |
# That's been known to change the weather | 0:51:07 | 0:51:09 | |
# We'll kill the fatted calf tonight | 0:51:09 | 0:51:12 | |
# So stick around... # | 0:51:12 | 0:51:13 | |
When you see her in action on the court | 0:51:13 | 0:51:15 | |
and then you see her in action off the court, | 0:51:15 | 0:51:18 | |
fighting her cause and sticking up for people | 0:51:18 | 0:51:23 | |
and trying to change the world, it brings a smile to your face. | 0:51:23 | 0:51:25 | |
I can't tell you how much that means | 0:51:25 | 0:51:28 | |
to me and to millions of other people. | 0:51:28 | 0:51:30 | |
# B-B-B-Benny and the Jets... # | 0:51:30 | 0:51:33 | |
You know, you really can't compare eras, | 0:51:33 | 0:51:34 | |
because if Steffi was growing up now, | 0:51:34 | 0:51:36 | |
she would have a different backhand and different strokes, | 0:51:36 | 0:51:39 | |
I would have different strokes. | 0:51:39 | 0:51:40 | |
I think that Steffi's slice would have given everybody... | 0:51:40 | 0:51:43 | |
Well, it gave me fits, and I like low-bouncing balls. | 0:51:43 | 0:51:46 | |
-I think the... -Who doesn't? | 0:51:46 | 0:51:49 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:51:49 | 0:51:51 | |
I thought you liked 'em high! | 0:51:51 | 0:51:54 | |
Anyway, be that as it may. | 0:51:54 | 0:51:56 | |
I'm actually playing doubles with her, which is quite frightening | 0:51:56 | 0:51:59 | |
because I'm not a great net player | 0:51:59 | 0:52:01 | |
and she insists that I get up to the net, | 0:52:01 | 0:52:03 | |
so she's terrifying to play with. | 0:52:03 | 0:52:05 | |
You're playing alongside | 0:52:05 | 0:52:06 | |
probably the greatest female tennis player of all time | 0:52:06 | 0:52:08 | |
and, you know...it's one thing singing in front of people, | 0:52:08 | 0:52:13 | |
but it's another thing having to perform with that kind of greatness. | 0:52:13 | 0:52:17 | |
Team Elton John taking on Team Billie Jean King. | 0:52:19 | 0:52:23 | |
CHEERING | 0:52:23 | 0:52:25 | |
The fact that she's still playing pretty damn good | 0:52:28 | 0:52:31 | |
at nearly 60 years of age | 0:52:31 | 0:52:33 | |
is quite remarkable. | 0:52:33 | 0:52:35 | |
You know, I've had the luck | 0:52:35 | 0:52:36 | |
to have watched her up close, | 0:52:36 | 0:52:38 | |
to have seen her many victories at Wimbledon | 0:52:38 | 0:52:41 | |
and throughout the world, and just be astonished | 0:52:41 | 0:52:43 | |
that the fact she loves the game so much. | 0:52:43 | 0:52:46 | |
I love people who keep going and have the passion, | 0:52:46 | 0:52:48 | |
and I still feel the same - | 0:52:48 | 0:52:50 | |
I'll be 69 next birthday, but I have as much enthusiasm now | 0:52:50 | 0:52:53 | |
as I did when I was 20, | 0:52:53 | 0:52:54 | |
and I think you could say the same of Martina. | 0:52:54 | 0:52:56 | |
So, when Martina talks to athletes and talks to ordinary people, | 0:52:58 | 0:53:01 | |
I think she has a good effect on them. | 0:53:01 | 0:53:04 | |
# Benny, Benny, Benny | 0:53:04 | 0:53:09 | |
# Benny, Benny and the Jets... # | 0:53:09 | 0:53:11 | |
From Vegas to Cambridge, | 0:53:11 | 0:53:14 | |
from bright lights to light blues, | 0:53:14 | 0:53:16 | |
a champion of lawn tennis playing the oldest version of the game... | 0:53:16 | 0:53:20 | |
..real tennis. | 0:53:22 | 0:53:23 | |
She is about to become | 0:53:25 | 0:53:26 | |
an Honorary Fellow of a Cambridge college. | 0:53:26 | 0:53:29 | |
The college is called Lucy Cavendish. | 0:53:29 | 0:53:31 | |
This is very different from the journey she began | 0:53:32 | 0:53:36 | |
as a young tennis player in Czechoslovakia. | 0:53:36 | 0:53:38 | |
Game. 2-0. | 0:53:38 | 0:53:41 | |
She's like an absolute legend. | 0:53:41 | 0:53:43 | |
I know. | 0:53:43 | 0:53:45 | |
Oh! My family are going to be so jealous. | 0:53:45 | 0:53:48 | |
I told my sisters - they were just like, | 0:53:48 | 0:53:50 | |
"What? How is this even possible?" | 0:53:50 | 0:53:52 | |
So it's a different bounce to what you're used to. | 0:53:54 | 0:53:56 | |
I think it's really good | 0:53:58 | 0:53:59 | |
to have someone like that promoting women's sport. | 0:53:59 | 0:54:01 | |
I think it's something that's growing massively at the moment, | 0:54:01 | 0:54:04 | |
and to have someone like her come along, | 0:54:04 | 0:54:06 | |
it's just obviously really encouraging. | 0:54:06 | 0:54:09 | |
I think that will only spur people on | 0:54:09 | 0:54:11 | |
to go and achieve even more excellence. | 0:54:11 | 0:54:13 | |
Oh, I forgot! | 0:54:14 | 0:54:16 | |
You know, when I was 12, I did very well in school. | 0:54:20 | 0:54:23 | |
You know, I was a straight-A student until ninth grade | 0:54:23 | 0:54:26 | |
and then, when I went to high school, I started travelling | 0:54:26 | 0:54:29 | |
and then the grades - Bs - | 0:54:29 | 0:54:31 | |
and then when I really started travelling, I, you know, | 0:54:31 | 0:54:34 | |
I had Cs, even, which was unheard of for me, | 0:54:34 | 0:54:37 | |
but...I was on the road so much. | 0:54:37 | 0:54:40 | |
Hello. Oh, goodness. | 0:54:40 | 0:54:41 | |
Welcome. Would you like to come over here? | 0:54:41 | 0:54:44 | |
-Yes, please. -Thank you. | 0:54:44 | 0:54:45 | |
Welcome, everybody. We're here today to mark the occasion | 0:54:45 | 0:54:48 | |
of Martina Navratilova becoming an Honorary Fellow of our college. | 0:54:48 | 0:54:52 | |
As it turned out, because when I was in the final year of high school, | 0:54:52 | 0:54:56 | |
the final exams were during Wimbledon. | 0:54:56 | 0:54:59 | |
I didn't go and then I left the country, then I defected, | 0:54:59 | 0:55:02 | |
so I never graduated from high school. | 0:55:02 | 0:55:04 | |
Martina has said that the key thing is for women to set no limits. | 0:55:04 | 0:55:08 | |
She's a fantastic advocate for women in sport | 0:55:08 | 0:55:11 | |
and a motivational speaker about women in leadership. | 0:55:11 | 0:55:14 | |
Her tennis has delighted and inspired | 0:55:14 | 0:55:17 | |
generations of tennis fans | 0:55:17 | 0:55:18 | |
and she can still be seen playing at Wimbledon to this day | 0:55:18 | 0:55:22 | |
in the Legends doubles, as she approaches her 60th birthday. | 0:55:22 | 0:55:26 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:55:26 | 0:55:28 | |
I, Martina Navratilova, | 0:55:28 | 0:55:30 | |
elected an Honorary Fellow of Lucy Cavendish College, | 0:55:30 | 0:55:33 | |
accept the purpose of this college, its statutes, ordinances... | 0:55:33 | 0:55:37 | |
'For me to be getting this fellowship...' | 0:55:37 | 0:55:39 | |
you know, only women that have, like, | 0:55:39 | 0:55:42 | |
brilliant academic careers have that - | 0:55:42 | 0:55:46 | |
that's pretty cool. | 0:55:46 | 0:55:47 | |
Pretty cool. I'm very humbled. | 0:55:47 | 0:55:50 | |
Martina Navratilova, | 0:55:50 | 0:55:51 | |
by the authority, and in the name of Lucy Cavendish College, | 0:55:51 | 0:55:54 | |
I welcome you as an honorary fellow of the College. | 0:55:54 | 0:55:57 | |
-Thank you very much. -Very nice to have you here, Martina. | 0:55:57 | 0:55:59 | |
-Now... -And I also promise to always cheer for Cambridge over Oxford. | 0:55:59 | 0:56:03 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:56:03 | 0:56:05 | |
I was planning on graduating | 0:56:05 | 0:56:07 | |
and becoming either an architect or an engineer, | 0:56:07 | 0:56:09 | |
building something, and play tennis as long as I possibly could. | 0:56:09 | 0:56:13 | |
I'm the fellow of mathematics. | 0:56:13 | 0:56:15 | |
-Welcome. -Hello. Shona Wilson, biological scientist. | 0:56:15 | 0:56:17 | |
I had a Plan A, which was school - | 0:56:17 | 0:56:19 | |
Plan B was tennis, but then the Plan B, kind of, took over. | 0:56:19 | 0:56:23 | |
I'm Jenny Gibson, | 0:56:23 | 0:56:24 | |
university lecturer in psychology and education. | 0:56:24 | 0:56:27 | |
-Are you profiling me right now? -Yep! | 0:56:27 | 0:56:29 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:56:29 | 0:56:32 | |
I usually just sign my first name, so I have to practise my last name. | 0:56:32 | 0:56:35 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:56:35 | 0:56:37 | |
She herself would make an intriguing subject. | 0:56:37 | 0:56:41 | |
Rushing - always rushing - | 0:56:41 | 0:56:43 | |
because there's so much to do. | 0:56:43 | 0:56:46 | |
You've got two minutes to get these photos. | 0:56:46 | 0:56:49 | |
Oh, really? No pressure, then. | 0:56:49 | 0:56:51 | |
A little bit closer for the two of you, I think. | 0:56:51 | 0:56:53 | |
We've already been looking like we're getting married, haven't we? | 0:56:53 | 0:56:57 | |
I already have a ring. | 0:56:57 | 0:56:59 | |
That's lovely. | 0:56:59 | 0:57:01 | |
-That was great. -Brilliant. | 0:57:01 | 0:57:02 | |
Thank you so much. | 0:57:02 | 0:57:04 | |
'You always find something to fight for that you feel strongly about. | 0:57:04 | 0:57:09 | |
'I've been fighting on many different fronts - | 0:57:09 | 0:57:11 | |
'whether it's for kids, for animals, for the environment - | 0:57:11 | 0:57:14 | |
'old people, as well. | 0:57:14 | 0:57:16 | |
'People that basically can't help themselves - and, of course,' | 0:57:16 | 0:57:19 | |
gay and lesbian rights, | 0:57:19 | 0:57:20 | |
women's rights, I mean, we still have a long way to go. | 0:57:20 | 0:57:23 | |
Basically, the only people that have nothing to fight for are white men. | 0:57:23 | 0:57:26 | |
Straight white men. They are all set. | 0:57:26 | 0:57:29 | |
But if you're outside of that, | 0:57:29 | 0:57:31 | |
you're an outsider. | 0:57:31 | 0:57:33 | |
And there is a mountain to climb - | 0:57:33 | 0:57:36 | |
it just depends on how high that mountain is - | 0:57:36 | 0:57:38 | |
but there's a mountain to climb. | 0:57:38 | 0:57:40 | |
'I do it in my time, in my pace, at my level.' | 0:57:40 | 0:57:45 | |
You know, I hope that it makes a difference somewhere, on some level. | 0:57:45 | 0:57:48 | |
There's always a fight. | 0:57:48 | 0:57:50 | |
It's an appalling cliche | 0:57:53 | 0:57:55 | |
and really disgraceful, | 0:57:55 | 0:57:56 | |
but if anyone was going to have Sinatra's My Way sung | 0:57:56 | 0:58:00 | |
at some lifetime-achievement award, | 0:58:00 | 0:58:02 | |
it should be Martina. She really did do things her way. | 0:58:02 | 0:58:05 | |
Great. Go on. Let's get into the boat. | 0:58:07 | 0:58:10 | |
Has Martina changed? | 0:58:10 | 0:58:13 | |
I think she's really enjoying being a mom. | 0:58:13 | 0:58:16 | |
I think she's just having more experiences outside the tennis court | 0:58:16 | 0:58:19 | |
that have made her just fuller, more of a full person. | 0:58:19 | 0:58:22 | |
-OK. Push her out. -Ah! | 0:58:22 | 0:58:25 | |
No, I don't want to go for a swim in this. | 0:58:25 | 0:58:29 | |
'She's the greatest tennis player that ever lived. | 0:58:29 | 0:58:31 | |
'You know, she's an inspiration.' | 0:58:31 | 0:58:32 | |
And if I was an inspiration to her, she's certainly been one to me. | 0:58:32 | 0:58:36 | |
I think she taught all of us | 0:58:43 | 0:58:44 | |
how to be more comfortable in our own skin. | 0:58:44 | 0:58:47 | |
Maybe SHE wasn't as comfortable but, you know what, | 0:58:47 | 0:58:49 | |
she made us feel like she was. | 0:58:49 | 0:58:51 | |
She showed a human dimension that was simply marvellous - | 0:58:53 | 0:58:56 | |
to be so brilliant without being robotic. | 0:58:56 | 0:58:58 | |
To be so technically perfect, so athletic | 0:58:58 | 0:59:01 | |
and so wonderfully joyous when she won. | 0:59:01 | 0:59:04 | |
And she gave sport everything, and it is a richer sport. | 0:59:04 | 0:59:07 | |
And I think she enriches everything she touches. | 0:59:07 | 0:59:11 | |
Thank you, girls. I passed the test? | 0:59:11 | 0:59:14 | |
-Yeah! -Yeah! -When do you want to come for the next one? | 0:59:14 | 0:59:17 | |
-LAUGHTER -I might do that. | 0:59:17 | 0:59:19 |