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PAULA RADCLIFFE: I've run my fair share of marathons. | 6:06:03 | 6:06:06 | |
So many miles that I've lost count. | 6:06:06 | 6:06:08 | |
But I love them, I've made them my career. | 6:06:08 | 6:06:11 | |
I've put in hours, days, weeks and years of preparation | 6:06:11 | 6:06:14 | |
over my time, and I know exactly how tough they can be. | 6:06:14 | 6:06:19 | |
-COMMENTATOR: -Her Olympic dream is over. What a sad sight. | 6:06:19 | 6:06:23 | |
I know some people run them for fun. Others, like me, run for a time, | 6:06:23 | 6:06:28 | |
a medal, and even a world record. | 6:06:28 | 6:06:31 | |
-COMMENTATOR: -Watch the clock, she's going to smash the world record. | 6:06:31 | 6:06:35 | |
That was just unbelievable. | 6:06:35 | 6:06:37 | |
But my competitive running days are over, | 6:06:37 | 6:06:40 | |
bowing out at my favourite marathon last year. | 6:06:40 | 6:06:42 | |
A truly magical day, and one that I will never, ever forget. | 6:06:42 | 6:06:47 | |
Running your first marathon is always a daunting task, | 6:06:47 | 6:06:50 | |
and I remember my nerves. | 6:06:50 | 6:06:52 | |
And this year, a close friend and former team-mate of mine will run | 6:06:52 | 6:06:56 | |
the iconic 26.2 miles on the streets of London for the first time. | 6:06:56 | 6:07:01 | |
She's also a double Olympic champion. | 6:07:01 | 6:07:03 | |
She's Kelly Holmes. | 6:07:03 | 6:07:05 | |
Ahead of the challenge, I've come to Kelly's hometown in Kent | 6:07:06 | 6:07:10 | |
to talk about how preparation is going. | 6:07:10 | 6:07:12 | |
SHE LAUGHS A big marathon. | 6:07:12 | 6:07:15 | |
Paula, this is your bag. | 6:07:15 | 6:07:17 | |
We'll also reminisce about the great success she had in her career | 6:07:17 | 6:07:21 | |
and, of course, those two golds at the Athens Olympics in 2004. | 6:07:21 | 6:07:25 | |
-COMMENTATOR: -What a performance! | 6:07:26 | 6:07:28 | |
You've won it, Kelly, you've won it! | 6:07:28 | 6:07:30 | |
But also, we'll talk about the hard times, the times away from the track | 6:07:32 | 6:07:35 | |
that people don't see, when it all got a bit too much for Kelly. | 6:07:35 | 6:07:39 | |
It got to the point of self-harming, which is | 6:07:39 | 6:07:41 | |
something that, for an ex-military person, you don't | 6:07:41 | 6:07:44 | |
think you're ever going to get to that point of despair. | 6:07:44 | 6:07:47 | |
I know that, having personally gone through lows as well as highs in this sport, | 6:07:47 | 6:07:51 | |
and knowing her as the person she is, Kelly can conquer anything. | 6:07:51 | 6:07:56 | |
And that includes the London Marathon. | 6:07:56 | 6:07:58 | |
-Hello! How are you doing? -Good, thank you. -Good to see you. | 6:08:04 | 6:08:08 | |
-Nice to see you. -Yeah, you too. -Thanks for having us in Tonbridge. | 6:08:08 | 6:08:12 | |
-Yeah, welcome. -So, this is the track where it all started for you. | 6:08:12 | 6:08:16 | |
-It was, yes, many years ago. -Did it look like that then? | 6:08:16 | 6:08:21 | |
-It was a cinder track, Paula. -Of course, they all were then. | 6:08:21 | 6:08:25 | |
And this posh building wasn't there, | 6:08:25 | 6:08:28 | |
it was a hut on top of a hill, that's what we always used to say. | 6:08:28 | 6:08:31 | |
-But the wind always was... -And the fields, I guess. | 6:08:31 | 6:08:33 | |
And the fields, yes, lovely place, actually, to train. | 6:08:33 | 6:08:36 | |
I remember the first day because my mum dropped me off on the hill, | 6:08:36 | 6:08:39 | |
and she said to me, "You'd better... | 6:08:39 | 6:08:41 | |
"You'd better stick to this one this time." | 6:08:41 | 6:08:44 | |
Because I used to do all these other sports and give up. | 6:08:44 | 6:08:46 | |
-But you did stick with it, anyway. -Yes, I did stick with it, I know. Gosh. | 6:08:46 | 6:08:51 | |
Your mum brought you down here, like, "Please stick at this one, Kelly." | 6:08:59 | 6:09:02 | |
But it is important you get the chance to try out all the different things, | 6:09:02 | 6:09:05 | |
to find the one that you're really passionate about, isn't it? | 6:09:05 | 6:09:08 | |
Yeah, definitely. I think... | 6:09:08 | 6:09:09 | |
I was quite fortunate, in a way, that I got given the opportunities | 6:09:09 | 6:09:13 | |
to go to clubs. | 6:09:13 | 6:09:14 | |
It was all part of Mum, I suppose, Mum and my stepdad | 6:09:14 | 6:09:18 | |
and my nan and grandad, because we used to live next door to each other. | 6:09:18 | 6:09:22 | |
Because they were the ones that took me off to cross-country more, | 6:09:22 | 6:09:25 | |
to be honest with you. And I hated cross-country with a passion. | 6:09:25 | 6:09:29 | |
Cold, wet, wind, mud, something... "Really? You're mad!" | 6:09:29 | 6:09:33 | |
THEY LAUGH | 6:09:33 | 6:09:35 | |
But I remember that, and I'd be a shivering wreck, you know, | 6:09:35 | 6:09:39 | |
and crying. | 6:09:39 | 6:09:40 | |
They would be the ones putting the...kind of blanket around you, | 6:09:40 | 6:09:44 | |
with the flask and everything. | 6:09:44 | 6:09:46 | |
And actually, when my mum brought me down, it was | 6:09:46 | 6:09:49 | |
because my PE teacher, Debbie Page, who's still the PE teacher | 6:09:49 | 6:09:51 | |
at the same school, 37 years on, I have to say, | 6:09:51 | 6:09:53 | |
she was my biggest inspiration. | 6:09:53 | 6:09:55 | |
My mother then brought me down after a phone call from her, | 6:09:55 | 6:09:58 | |
but it was almost that whole thing of having that support. | 6:09:58 | 6:10:02 | |
You look back, and actually we're probably quite fortunate | 6:10:02 | 6:10:05 | |
that we have been given the opportunity. | 6:10:05 | 6:10:07 | |
I'm just like lots of different children, | 6:10:07 | 6:10:10 | |
I grew up in the council estate up the road and, you know, you | 6:10:10 | 6:10:13 | |
never know if you're going to get opportunities in life, | 6:10:13 | 6:10:15 | |
because things cost money, | 6:10:15 | 6:10:17 | |
so, you know, I was just fortunate that this was quite close | 6:10:17 | 6:10:21 | |
and they saw I had a potential, I suppose, the school, | 6:10:21 | 6:10:25 | |
and my mum wanted me to do something positive with my life, | 6:10:25 | 6:10:28 | |
so coming here was a big step to that. | 6:10:28 | 6:10:31 | |
Was it like you had your school life and then athletics life? | 6:10:31 | 6:10:34 | |
-You almost felt like you were a different person. -Exactly that. | 6:10:34 | 6:10:37 | |
I mean, I was not good at school, you know, academically, | 6:10:37 | 6:10:40 | |
I wasn't good. | 6:10:40 | 6:10:41 | |
I suppose sport almost made me feel good, as an individual, | 6:10:41 | 6:10:46 | |
it gave me an identity, because suddenly people see | 6:10:46 | 6:10:49 | |
you're good at something and want to be part of your team and things. | 6:10:49 | 6:10:52 | |
I've still got the same friends now, to this day, that I had back in | 6:10:52 | 6:10:56 | |
school. And I remember Kerry, Lara and Kim, when I watched the Olympics | 6:10:56 | 6:10:59 | |
in '84, the year that I got inspired to be Olympic champion, | 6:10:59 | 6:11:03 | |
watching Seb Coe win gold medal in the 1,500m, | 6:11:03 | 6:11:06 | |
I remember going back into school in the summer holidays | 6:11:06 | 6:11:08 | |
and saying to Kerry, Lara and Kim, "I'm going to be Olympic champion." | 6:11:08 | 6:11:12 | |
And they turned round to me and said, "Yeah, you are. | 6:11:12 | 6:11:14 | |
"Because that's the only thing you're good at." | 6:11:14 | 6:11:16 | |
THEY LAUGH | 6:11:16 | 6:11:18 | |
My coach, Dave, he was great, because he tried to progress me | 6:11:22 | 6:11:26 | |
in the right way as a youngster. | 6:11:26 | 6:11:28 | |
And I think that was why I was successful at, probably, | 6:11:28 | 6:11:31 | |
English Schools. And then also, when it's kind of the unknown | 6:11:31 | 6:11:33 | |
and you're a bit mad, you just don't care, do you? | 6:11:33 | 6:11:35 | |
So I just used to run, really. Didn't really think about it. | 6:11:35 | 6:11:38 | |
But then the last English Schools, I won, | 6:11:38 | 6:11:42 | |
and then I went into the military. And Dave was so upset that I was going, because I think | 6:11:42 | 6:11:46 | |
he thought I could be a really good senior international athlete, | 6:11:46 | 6:11:48 | |
and he was devastated that I was joining the military. But I did. | 6:11:48 | 6:11:52 | |
So, did you stay in touch, all the time you were in the army, with Dave, then? | 6:11:52 | 6:11:55 | |
Yeah, I stayed in touch, and it wasn't | 6:11:55 | 6:11:57 | |
until I actually got back into my athletics, so 1992, you remember | 6:11:57 | 6:12:03 | |
Lisa York, who was a great runner, 3,000... | 6:12:03 | 6:12:06 | |
1,500m and 3,000m runner? | 6:12:06 | 6:12:08 | |
-COMMENTATOR: -And Lisa York takes it on. | 6:12:08 | 6:12:11 | |
Lisa York from Great Britain with a very, very early run. | 6:12:11 | 6:12:14 | |
And at that time, I was sitting in my barrack room, in the Army, | 6:12:14 | 6:12:18 | |
and I remember watching the Olympics and just thinking, | 6:12:18 | 6:12:21 | |
"Oh, my God, it's Lisa York. | 6:12:21 | 6:12:22 | |
"I used to race against her, I used to beat her in some things." | 6:12:22 | 6:12:26 | |
And that sort of ignited my passion, I suppose, | 6:12:26 | 6:12:29 | |
and my dream to get back into running, you know, properly. | 6:12:29 | 6:12:34 | |
-And the following year, I went to...was it Stuttgart? -Mm-hm. | 6:12:34 | 6:12:38 | |
-COMMENTATOR: -Kelly Holmes, full of confidence, | 6:12:38 | 6:12:41 | |
for the second semifinal, for the women's 800m. | 6:12:41 | 6:12:44 | |
That was a great championship, but I got brought back down to earth | 6:12:46 | 6:12:49 | |
because I had to fly back to barracks, | 6:12:49 | 6:12:52 | |
and I'd forgotten I'd changed all my guard duties, so the night I got back from Stuttgart, | 6:12:52 | 6:12:56 | |
when everyone else is celebrating at home, I'm guarding the barracks at two o'clock in the morning | 6:12:56 | 6:13:00 | |
with my weapon and my helmet on and the fog coming down, thinking, | 6:13:00 | 6:13:03 | |
"I was actually at the World Championships earlier." | 6:13:03 | 6:13:06 | |
-COMMENTATOR: -Paulino, from Kovacs, from Rainey, from Gurina, | 6:13:06 | 6:13:10 | |
-from Holmes. -Well, I thought she ran a great race there. | 6:13:10 | 6:13:14 | |
You must have kept training the whole time you were in the Army. | 6:13:14 | 6:13:17 | |
The training I was doing was really with the soldiers, you know. | 6:13:17 | 6:13:20 | |
Because I was a physical-training instructor by then, so a lot... | 6:13:20 | 6:13:22 | |
It was military training, so my boots, you know, | 6:13:22 | 6:13:25 | |
your backpacks on and going over assault courses. | 6:13:25 | 6:13:28 | |
And actually I think the benefit of that was I was really strong. | 6:13:28 | 6:13:32 | |
So I knew how to run, | 6:13:32 | 6:13:34 | |
and running was always part of military training anyway, | 6:13:34 | 6:13:38 | |
but I think because I was so strong, as a female, | 6:13:38 | 6:13:40 | |
so when I came back into athletics, I was just a powerhouse. | 6:13:40 | 6:13:44 | |
And I think that's probably why I done so well early on. | 6:13:44 | 6:13:48 | |
-COMMENTATOR: -Rogachova and Podkopayeva, | 6:13:52 | 6:13:54 | |
and Kelly Holmes is going to hang on. | 6:13:54 | 6:13:57 | |
And Kelly Holmes gets silver! | 6:13:57 | 6:13:59 | |
I've got a lot more to prove yet. | 6:14:03 | 6:14:05 | |
Just need a good winter-season preparation | 6:14:05 | 6:14:08 | |
and go for medals again next year. | 6:14:08 | 6:14:10 | |
-COMMENTATOR: -I think Kelly Holmes should be very, | 6:14:11 | 6:14:13 | |
very pleased with that. | 6:14:13 | 6:14:15 | |
She is an absolute heroine tonight. | 6:14:22 | 6:14:25 | |
She couldn't have done any more than she did. | 6:14:25 | 6:14:27 | |
And Ceplak gets the gold, Martinez the silver, | 6:14:33 | 6:14:36 | |
and Kelly Holmes gets the bronze. | 6:14:36 | 6:14:38 | |
Kelly Holmes, striding out. | 6:14:39 | 6:14:43 | |
Kelly comes home to take the gold once more for England. | 6:14:43 | 6:14:46 | |
By gum, does she deserve it. | 6:14:46 | 6:14:48 | |
2002 was a good year, but you had a little bit of a rough few years, | 6:14:52 | 6:14:55 | |
didn't you, before we came to 2004 and Athens? | 6:14:55 | 6:14:59 | |
2003 was the World Indoor Champs in Birmingham. | 6:14:59 | 6:15:02 | |
I came second. | 6:15:02 | 6:15:04 | |
And then went to the World Outdoor Championships, | 6:15:04 | 6:15:06 | |
but before that, I had the worst, | 6:15:06 | 6:15:09 | |
literally the worst period of my life, and I think it was the whole... | 6:15:09 | 6:15:13 | |
You know, when you're in sport, | 6:15:13 | 6:15:15 | |
and if you really believe in it, you live and eat...breathe it, | 6:15:15 | 6:15:18 | |
really, in a way, but you contend with normal life, | 6:15:18 | 6:15:21 | |
you know, emotions are the same, you know, you want to be good | 6:15:21 | 6:15:24 | |
and get knocked down and whatever you go through. | 6:15:24 | 6:15:27 | |
And I got really bad depression in that year. | 6:15:27 | 6:15:30 | |
You know, to the point where I... | 6:15:30 | 6:15:32 | |
You know, it got to the point of self-harming, | 6:15:32 | 6:15:35 | |
which is something that for an ex-military person... | 6:15:35 | 6:15:38 | |
I only left after ten years and, you know, | 6:15:38 | 6:15:41 | |
good-standard international athlete, | 6:15:41 | 6:15:43 | |
you don't think that you're ever going to get to that point of despair. | 6:15:43 | 6:15:47 | |
-You know what I mean? -Hmm. -But I think I've had such a kind of turmoil. | 6:15:47 | 6:15:51 | |
-I never would've known until I read about it. -Yeah. | 6:15:51 | 6:15:53 | |
And I was thinking... If you kind of feel... | 6:15:53 | 6:15:56 | |
Could you not have come...? Could I have come and talked to you? | 6:15:56 | 6:15:59 | |
But you were so good at hiding and, I guess, closing yourself away | 6:15:59 | 6:16:03 | |
that that kind of makes it grow inside a little bit more, does it? | 6:16:03 | 6:16:07 | |
Yeah. I think the thing is you kind of, you know, try and deal with everything yourself anyway. | 6:16:07 | 6:16:11 | |
Because, you know, it's like... | 6:16:11 | 6:16:13 | |
Whenever athletes are doing really well, | 6:16:13 | 6:16:15 | |
the last thing you want to do is be the whole... | 6:16:15 | 6:16:18 | |
"It's all going wrong for me." Because everyone's got to stay positive, ain't they? | 6:16:18 | 6:16:22 | |
And you try and stay positive outside. | 6:16:22 | 6:16:24 | |
So, you know, I'd...being in the blooming pool again | 6:16:24 | 6:16:27 | |
and I'm just, "I'm going to get there!" Cos I had the World Championships coming up. | 6:16:27 | 6:16:31 | |
You know I mean? And one side of me was like, "I've got this World Championships." | 6:16:31 | 6:16:35 | |
And the other side was tearing me apart, you know? | 6:16:35 | 6:16:37 | |
And even... I didn't tell anyone. You look in the mirror and you don't want to even be there. | 6:16:37 | 6:16:41 | |
You're in a bad state, but I still had this whole thing | 6:16:41 | 6:16:44 | |
that I could be Olympic champion. | 6:16:44 | 6:16:46 | |
That was my saving grace, | 6:16:46 | 6:16:48 | |
because I always believed I could be this person. | 6:16:48 | 6:16:52 | |
But then, equally, I was just in this emotional wreck and turmoil. | 6:16:52 | 6:16:56 | |
And so... But then two weeks later, | 6:16:56 | 6:16:59 | |
I won a silver medal at the World Championships. | 6:16:59 | 6:17:02 | |
And I stood on the rostrum, like, crying inside thinking, | 6:17:02 | 6:17:04 | |
"I've got this medal," but also crying inside because of how I was feeling. | 6:17:04 | 6:17:08 | |
-But I didn't tell anyone. -APPLAUSE | 6:17:08 | 6:17:11 | |
It's only over the years that I've obviously got more confident in just talking about it, | 6:17:13 | 6:17:17 | |
cos I realise actually that sometimes if you are in the public eye, | 6:17:17 | 6:17:21 | |
you've got a platform to actually have people listen to you. | 6:17:21 | 6:17:24 | |
And I didn't feel ashamed of what I've done, it's just me. | 6:17:24 | 6:17:27 | |
And there's so many people in life that... | 6:17:27 | 6:17:30 | |
one, don't have the chance to talk too much about it | 6:17:30 | 6:17:33 | |
or don't want to talk about it. | 6:17:33 | 6:17:35 | |
And I'm just saying we've got to stop the stigmatism, | 6:17:35 | 6:17:37 | |
cos no matter who you are or the industry you're in, | 6:17:37 | 6:17:39 | |
there's so many people that suffer | 6:17:39 | 6:17:41 | |
at all different levels for whatever different reason. | 6:17:41 | 6:17:43 | |
And if I can talk about it then, | 6:17:43 | 6:17:45 | |
hopefully, other people will start to talk and say, | 6:17:45 | 6:17:47 | |
"Look, you can actually ask for help." | 6:17:47 | 6:17:50 | |
I never really thought that I was ever going to be a person that would get to that point, | 6:17:50 | 6:17:54 | |
but I clearly am, and it's just part of my life. | 6:17:54 | 6:17:57 | |
And, actually, it makes... | 6:17:57 | 6:18:00 | |
what I did in Athens even more important to me, | 6:18:00 | 6:18:05 | |
and more, kind of, you know, I just feel, "Oh, my gosh!" | 6:18:05 | 6:18:08 | |
Literally, cos I hung in there and I managed to do it. | 6:18:08 | 6:18:11 | |
Two laps of the track. | 6:18:11 | 6:18:14 | |
Less than two minutes of running. | 6:18:14 | 6:18:15 | |
Concentrate, put yourself in the right place, | 6:18:15 | 6:18:19 | |
react and hope it's your day. | 6:18:19 | 6:18:21 | |
GUN FIRES | 6:18:21 | 6:18:22 | |
CHEERING | 6:18:22 | 6:18:24 | |
A huge roar goes up. It could be a race to get to the front. | 6:18:24 | 6:18:27 | |
There are three or four frontrunners in this. | 6:18:27 | 6:18:30 | |
Jearl Miles Clark looks as though she fancies it. | 6:18:30 | 6:18:32 | |
Cioncan likes to get to the front, Ceplak does, Maria Mutola sometimes. | 6:18:32 | 6:18:35 | |
I don't think she'll do it today. | 6:18:35 | 6:18:37 | |
And, in fact, it's Jearl Miles Clark who's gone through that first 100 metres quickly. | 6:18:37 | 6:18:41 | |
Kelly at the back as we'd probably expect, | 6:18:41 | 6:18:43 | |
letting them go through that first 200. There's Cioncan, she likes a good pace as well. | 6:18:43 | 6:18:46 | |
But Jearl Miles Clark has gone off very, very quickly indeed. | 6:18:46 | 6:18:50 | |
And this...in the Olympic final | 6:18:50 | 6:18:53 | |
means that I think we're going to see a quick time. | 6:18:53 | 6:18:56 | |
But the main protagonists are towards the back. | 6:18:56 | 6:18:58 | |
Mutola is taking it easy and so is Kelly Holmes, | 6:18:58 | 6:19:01 | |
last at the moment, but she won't stay there for long. | 6:19:01 | 6:19:04 | |
Look at the gap between first and last! | 6:19:04 | 6:19:06 | |
Kelly Holmes absolutely dead last, | 6:19:06 | 6:19:08 | |
but I think that first 200 metres was very, very quick indeed. | 6:19:08 | 6:19:12 | |
I think it was 27 seconds and I'm sure Kelly was closer to 29. | 6:19:12 | 6:19:16 | |
-BELL RINGS -She's giving Maria Mutola | 6:19:16 | 6:19:18 | |
a bit too much of a lead. | 6:19:18 | 6:19:20 | |
But 56.3 for the leader, | 6:19:20 | 6:19:22 | |
which means that Kelly Holmes and Maria Mutola | 6:19:22 | 6:19:25 | |
are doing the right thing sitting off the pace. | 6:19:25 | 6:19:28 | |
I think Ceplak's in trouble there as Kelly Holmes goes past her. | 6:19:28 | 6:19:31 | |
Kelly Holmes is tracking Maria Mutola. | 6:19:31 | 6:19:33 | |
Jearl Miles Clark has run a fast, fast race and is beginning to slow | 6:19:33 | 6:19:38 | |
as Kelly follows in the wake of Maria Mutola! | 6:19:38 | 6:19:41 | |
Now, remember, Kelly Holmes | 6:19:41 | 6:19:43 | |
was leading in the Olympic Games in Sydney with 50 metres to go. | 6:19:43 | 6:19:47 | |
Can she do a bit better this time | 6:19:47 | 6:19:49 | |
and be leading from 50 metres to the finish? | 6:19:49 | 6:19:51 | |
Kelly's in a great place there but Mutola knocked her! | 6:19:51 | 6:19:55 | |
Mutola won't let Kelly Holmes past, she wants to control this! | 6:19:55 | 6:19:58 | |
Miles Clark has the lead. Kelly Holmes attacking on the outside! | 6:19:58 | 6:20:02 | |
What has Mutola got left? Has Andrianova got anything? | 6:20:02 | 6:20:05 | |
What about Miles Clark? | 6:20:05 | 6:20:06 | |
Kelly Holmes fighting for the gold medal | 6:20:06 | 6:20:08 | |
with her training partner Maria Mutola! | 6:20:08 | 6:20:11 | |
Kelly Holmes bringing it home for Britain! Can she get there? | 6:20:11 | 6:20:14 | |
Come on, Kelly! One more...! Come on, Kelly Holmes! | 6:20:14 | 6:20:18 | |
It's gold! Kelly's won the gold for Great Britain! | 6:20:18 | 6:20:21 | |
What a race! What a performance! | 6:20:21 | 6:20:24 | |
Well, you see my face. I mean, the shock as I crossed the line. | 6:20:24 | 6:20:27 | |
I never once thought I'd win the 800. | 6:20:27 | 6:20:30 | |
You've won it, Kelly! You've won it! | 6:20:30 | 6:20:32 | |
Kelly Holmes is the Olympic champion! | 6:20:32 | 6:20:35 | |
I just never even thought about being Olympic champion at 800. | 6:20:35 | 6:20:39 | |
It was never my dream. I just happened to always do 800 and 1,500, | 6:20:39 | 6:20:43 | |
because that was based on whether I was fit enough to do... | 6:20:43 | 6:20:46 | |
or strong enough for what one. | 6:20:46 | 6:20:48 | |
And that's how I picked my races, to be honest, over the years. | 6:20:48 | 6:20:51 | |
So when I went to the 800, | 6:20:51 | 6:20:53 | |
I just kind of worked out that I could win a medal if I ran 1.56. | 6:20:53 | 6:20:56 | |
And my training alluded to that. | 6:20:56 | 6:20:58 | |
-Uh-huh. -You know, I was just doing pace... | 6:20:58 | 6:21:01 | |
pace work all the time. And I knew I could run 1.56, | 6:21:01 | 6:21:03 | |
I just had to run efficiently and not get knocked over, whatever. | 6:21:03 | 6:21:07 | |
So then when I actually won, you know, again I won... | 6:21:07 | 6:21:10 | |
everything I'd lost by the thickness of the top, | 6:21:10 | 6:21:13 | |
this one I'd won by the thickness of the top. And I remember celebrating. | 6:21:13 | 6:21:17 | |
I still remember it, even though I've watched it a million times, | 6:21:17 | 6:21:20 | |
I still actually remember the whole process. Because I remember saying to myself, drop my shoulders, | 6:21:20 | 6:21:24 | |
relax my shoulders on the last bit, cos normally I was really tense. | 6:21:24 | 6:21:27 | |
People get tense and their breathing goes and, you know, their form goes. | 6:21:27 | 6:21:31 | |
And I remember just saying to myself, "Relax the shoulders," cos I'd practised it in training. | 6:21:31 | 6:21:35 | |
And I took that one vital step forward. | 6:21:35 | 6:21:38 | |
So I started to celebrate, but in my head it was like, | 6:21:38 | 6:21:40 | |
"I couldn't have won the 800!" And I felt really embarrassed. | 6:21:40 | 6:21:43 | |
I was thinking, "Is it going to be shown like that?" And I remember this photographer on the inside, | 6:21:43 | 6:21:47 | |
a British photographer was jumping up and down going, "Kelly, you've won!" | 6:21:47 | 6:21:51 | |
And I kind of look at the screen again. I'm looking and... "I've actually won it!" | 6:21:51 | 6:21:54 | |
-So that real...shock. -CHEERING | 6:21:54 | 6:21:57 | |
And I was just thinking, "I'm in the shape of my life here, | 6:21:57 | 6:22:00 | |
"I could actually get another medal in this champs." I didn't really think about the gold, | 6:22:00 | 6:22:04 | |
it was just, "I can get another medal." | 6:22:04 | 6:22:06 | |
So can Kelly Holmes do it again? | 6:22:06 | 6:22:08 | |
The women's 1,500m final gets under way. | 6:22:08 | 6:22:11 | |
I think having that mind-set at the right time is critical as well, isn't it? | 6:22:11 | 6:22:15 | |
Not switching off when actually you could, | 6:22:15 | 6:22:17 | |
and staying real focused on everything that you've done. | 6:22:17 | 6:22:21 | |
-And now the race just starts to pick up. -BELL | 6:22:21 | 6:22:24 | |
Yevdokimova doesn't let Chojecka get past. | 6:22:24 | 6:22:26 | |
Kelly Holmes has got to get a bit closer. | 6:22:26 | 6:22:28 | |
Well, I hope the tiredness of the rounds of the 800m and 1,500m | 6:22:28 | 6:22:32 | |
aren't catching up with her. | 6:22:32 | 6:22:33 | |
She was very clever the way she was able | 6:22:33 | 6:22:35 | |
to bounce off the other athlete on the inside there. | 6:22:35 | 6:22:37 | |
They're coming in now, just approaching the three-lap marker. | 6:22:37 | 6:22:41 | |
3.12. So it's still a fast pace, but it's not a suicidal pace, | 6:22:41 | 6:22:45 | |
it's not a vicious pace. | 6:22:45 | 6:22:47 | |
And Kelly Holmes now needs to just dig in there. | 6:22:47 | 6:22:50 | |
There are a few too many yards and little gaps opening now. | 6:22:50 | 6:22:54 | |
Can she run as controlled as she did in the 800m? | 6:22:54 | 6:22:57 | |
-Here comes Kelly Holmes! -There's a lot of pushing and shoving there. | 6:22:57 | 6:23:01 | |
Tomashova doesn't seem to have much, but she's going to go with Kelly. | 6:23:01 | 6:23:04 | |
Kelly coming on the outside, looks so easy! | 6:23:04 | 6:23:07 | |
Has she got enough in the home straight? Chojecka tries to move out. | 6:23:07 | 6:23:10 | |
Kelly looking around to see where the danger is. | 6:23:10 | 6:23:12 | |
There doesn't appear to be too much. Now she's got to push on. | 6:23:12 | 6:23:15 | |
Now she's got to kick for home! | 6:23:15 | 6:23:17 | |
Kelly Holmes going for two gold medals! | 6:23:17 | 6:23:18 | |
It's going to be an historic second gold! | 6:23:18 | 6:23:21 | |
Kelly Holmes for Great Britain wins the 1,500m title! | 6:23:21 | 6:23:25 | |
What a performance! | 6:23:25 | 6:23:27 | |
3.57.91. A personal best to boot! | 6:23:27 | 6:23:31 | |
You are the double Olympic champion, Kelly Holmes! | 6:23:31 | 6:23:34 | |
That is the greatest performance | 6:23:34 | 6:23:37 | |
in the history of British distance running, | 6:23:37 | 6:23:39 | |
the history of British athletics in the Olympic Games. | 6:23:39 | 6:23:41 | |
The 1,500m, honestly, it was...just like a relief. | 6:23:41 | 6:23:45 | |
I felt like when I crossed the line, this tonne of weight just went off my shoulders. | 6:23:45 | 6:23:49 | |
It literally felt like that. It's almost like, you know, if you go back through your life | 6:23:49 | 6:23:53 | |
and it's like a movie. I was like, "Oh, my God!" All those things that happened and I had done it. | 6:23:53 | 6:23:58 | |
It was almost like... I couldn't believe it, to be honest with you. | 6:23:58 | 6:24:01 | |
CHEERING | 6:24:01 | 6:24:03 | |
You achieved the British record tonight, you ran 3.57.9... | 6:24:03 | 6:24:06 | |
-You didn't have any idea, did you? -Did I really do 3.57?! | 6:24:06 | 6:24:10 | |
-BOTH LAUGH -Fantastic! | 6:24:10 | 6:24:12 | |
BRITISH NATIONAL ANTHEM PLAYS | 6:24:12 | 6:24:14 | |
Personally, I just believe in fate and think that everything that I went through, | 6:24:20 | 6:24:24 | |
the fact that I stepped to it, you know, I could get it right. | 6:24:24 | 6:24:27 | |
And probably maybe that was just a...you know, a sign to say, "We've put you through... | 6:24:27 | 6:24:31 | |
"put you through enough now, you deserve to get it." | 6:24:31 | 6:24:34 | |
Surely, we're going to call her | 6:24:34 | 6:24:36 | |
Dame Kelly Holmes tonight after that performance. | 6:24:36 | 6:24:39 | |
I was with you in Athens and I watched your heartache. | 6:24:39 | 6:24:44 | |
And this is a very disappointing picture to be looking at. | 6:24:46 | 6:24:50 | |
And Paula Radcliffe's stopped on the roadside. That's enough. | 6:24:50 | 6:24:53 | |
Her Olympic dream is over. What a sad sight. | 6:24:53 | 6:24:57 | |
I don't know what's gone wrong. The crowd in the stadium are trying to give it... | 6:24:57 | 6:25:01 | |
But that is the end of an Olympic dream for Paula Radcliffe. | 6:25:01 | 6:25:04 | |
That really just got to me so badly. | 6:25:06 | 6:25:09 | |
You know I mean? And I felt everything. | 6:25:09 | 6:25:12 | |
So when I was then preparing, | 6:25:12 | 6:25:14 | |
that was sort of in my head, the whole thing of... | 6:25:14 | 6:25:17 | |
you didn't get the opportunity to get your dream. | 6:25:17 | 6:25:20 | |
Obviously, I wasn't able... I'd had the injury too close | 6:25:22 | 6:25:25 | |
and, again, didn't talk about things that I probably should have talked about, | 6:25:25 | 6:25:29 | |
and wasn't able to finish the marathon. | 6:25:29 | 6:25:31 | |
But I remember then watching you win the 800, | 6:25:31 | 6:25:33 | |
and I was trying to decide whether to come back and do the 10K or not. | 6:25:33 | 6:25:37 | |
Even though it wasn't the right decision, | 6:25:37 | 6:25:39 | |
I wasn't ever going to be able to even finish the 10K. | 6:25:39 | 6:25:41 | |
Just over nine laps to go and Paula is having a hard one here. | 6:25:41 | 6:25:46 | |
Oh, and she's stopping. Paula Radcliffe has stepped off the track. | 6:25:46 | 6:25:49 | |
Well, we said earlier it was a brave decision of her to run. | 6:25:49 | 6:25:53 | |
She ran a brave race there. Was it a wise decision? | 6:25:53 | 6:25:56 | |
Well, only Paula can answer that one. | 6:25:56 | 6:25:58 | |
I still don't regret going out and trying to do it, because... | 6:25:58 | 6:26:02 | |
-You never know. -Yeah, it's like I got the answer. | 6:26:02 | 6:26:04 | |
Otherwise, I'd have been sat in the stands thinking, "I wonder if I could have managed to get round." | 6:26:04 | 6:26:09 | |
The fact that you did that was just massive. You know, hats off. | 6:26:09 | 6:26:12 | |
And, actually, I have to say, on the plus side, you took so much pressure off me before the Games, | 6:26:12 | 6:26:16 | |
because you were, like, in the paper all the time and no-one wanted... | 6:26:16 | 6:26:20 | |
No-one was interested in me. So it was quite cool. So thank you for that. | 6:26:20 | 6:26:24 | |
There is Kelly Holmes! | 6:26:26 | 6:26:28 | |
CHEERING | 6:26:28 | 6:26:30 | |
MUSIC: Lola's Theme by Shapeshifters | 6:26:30 | 6:26:32 | |
Sports Personality of the Year 2004... | 6:26:40 | 6:26:43 | |
Kelly Holmes. | 6:26:43 | 6:26:45 | |
APPLAUSE | 6:26:45 | 6:26:46 | |
And now you're embarking on a new journey, with the marathon. | 6:26:55 | 6:26:59 | |
-BOTH LAUGH -Paula, this is YOUR bag. | 6:26:59 | 6:27:01 | |
I'm just...dying for this marathon. | 6:27:01 | 6:27:04 | |
DANCE MUSIC PLAYS | 6:27:04 | 6:27:07 | |
So, this is a nice place to come and train and put in some miles. | 6:27:15 | 6:27:20 | |
Yeah, it is nice actually. | 6:27:20 | 6:27:21 | |
It's only sort of part of a route that I normally do, | 6:27:21 | 6:27:24 | |
but Dave, my coach, and I used to come down here | 6:27:24 | 6:27:27 | |
and do reps around to get off the track. | 6:27:27 | 6:27:30 | |
That was quite good. And, actually, it was nice that I got off the tarmac, | 6:27:30 | 6:27:33 | |
-cos I found that pounding on the roads hard. -And that's what I think | 6:27:33 | 6:27:36 | |
you're going to find will be your hardest thing, | 6:27:36 | 6:27:38 | |
it's not going to be the fitness to run the marathon, | 6:27:38 | 6:27:41 | |
it's going to be your muscles just getting used to the pounding of that distance. | 6:27:41 | 6:27:44 | |
-My legs ache thinking about it. -It's good. | 6:27:44 | 6:27:46 | |
So shall we see how your legs have recovered from that run? Let's go. | 6:27:46 | 6:27:50 | |
I'm just not a long-distance runner, I literally know that. | 6:28:01 | 6:28:05 | |
You know, cos even when I was training | 6:28:05 | 6:28:07 | |
my longest run would probably be like an hour on a Sunday | 6:28:07 | 6:28:10 | |
or a recovery run, but it would just literally be... | 6:28:10 | 6:28:13 | |
-You say that, but it was a quick hour. -No, only when I'm with you. | 6:28:13 | 6:28:15 | |
-Only if I had to go out with you. -No, believe me.... | 6:28:15 | 6:28:18 | |
-you ran fast. -You just sprint! -BOTH LAUGH | 6:28:18 | 6:28:21 | |
Cos I'm up on my toes so much and the way that, you know... | 6:28:21 | 6:28:24 | |
I was speaking to one of the physios and the doctor says... | 6:28:24 | 6:28:27 | |
He actually looked at my hips and he says the way my hips are actually twisted | 6:28:27 | 6:28:32 | |
-is allowing me to do what I did as a middle-distance runner. -Yeah. | 6:28:32 | 6:28:36 | |
You know, the power and that. He says, "Now you're trying to do longer stuff, | 6:28:36 | 6:28:40 | |
"it's changing you biomechanically, so you're sitting back more | 6:28:40 | 6:28:43 | |
"and it's actually now putting so much pressure on your hips." | 6:28:43 | 6:28:46 | |
And that's what I've had problems with, my hips. | 6:28:46 | 6:28:48 | |
And the neural tension, like, all my nerves have been inflamed. | 6:28:48 | 6:28:51 | |
I had to go to the hospital. I had an epidural thing to try and calm it down. | 6:28:51 | 6:28:56 | |
And I've really, really struggled with that, you know, | 6:28:56 | 6:29:00 | |
just trying to up a bit of mileage, | 6:29:00 | 6:29:02 | |
because it's not for the willingness to do it, knowing I have to do it, | 6:29:02 | 6:29:06 | |
but then, you know, when you're in pain for five days after, you're just like, "Oh, my gosh!" | 6:29:06 | 6:29:11 | |
But now I've opened my mouth and I'm doing it, I've got no choice. | 6:29:11 | 6:29:14 | |
And you've got a big motivation to keep you through it | 6:29:14 | 6:29:16 | |
with the motivation of that target, which is a huge target for charity. | 6:29:16 | 6:29:20 | |
£250,000 for five charities. | 6:29:20 | 6:29:22 | |
But that's one of the... Yeah, that's the driver. | 6:29:22 | 6:29:25 | |
You know, I think when you've got something as a driver, | 6:29:25 | 6:29:28 | |
that's what's keeping me going, that's why I have to do it now. | 6:29:28 | 6:29:32 | |
I've done charity for years and I feel passionate about that, | 6:29:32 | 6:29:35 | |
so if I can actually do more for them, great. | 6:29:35 | 6:29:38 | |
And the personal challenge. | 6:29:38 | 6:29:40 | |
Cos, you know, in life we have... | 6:29:40 | 6:29:42 | |
I always have to have a challenge, | 6:29:42 | 6:29:44 | |
otherwise it wouldn't be me. And I chose this one. | 6:29:44 | 6:29:46 | |
CHEERING | 6:29:46 | 6:29:48 | |
I tell you where it came from, really, | 6:29:50 | 6:29:52 | |
was that I went to watch some friends last year. | 6:29:52 | 6:29:55 | |
And I remember going down on the Tube and going up and it was so exciting. | 6:29:55 | 6:29:58 | |
Everything about people supporting everybody that's running, their loved ones being there. | 6:29:58 | 6:30:02 | |
You know, you're running around London trying to spot the people. | 6:30:02 | 6:30:05 | |
And then actually the faces on everybody racing. | 6:30:05 | 6:30:08 | |
You know, this is everyday people | 6:30:08 | 6:30:11 | |
who for whatever reason have got a drive to run at the best marathon there ever can be. | 6:30:11 | 6:30:18 | |
You know, iconic city, just a fabulous, fabulous backdrop for it. | 6:30:18 | 6:30:23 | |
And I just remember feeling so proud, you know, | 6:30:23 | 6:30:26 | |
proud to be British and proud to sort of be there. | 6:30:26 | 6:30:29 | |
And I thought then... You know, I've never said I'll never do one, | 6:30:29 | 6:30:32 | |
but I've never really wanted to, let's face it. | 6:30:32 | 6:30:35 | |
But then I thought, it's Olympic year, | 6:30:35 | 6:30:37 | |
if I'm ever going to have a challenge, maybe that would be then. | 6:30:37 | 6:30:40 | |
And it was only in January that I really, really thought, "OK, let's do this." | 6:30:40 | 6:30:44 | |
So January the fourth, I put back on my trainers. "OK, let's go." | 6:30:44 | 6:30:47 | |
So I went for an eight-mile run and thought, "Oh, my God!" | 6:30:47 | 6:30:49 | |
And then I just thought, "Do you know what? OK, I want to do one last big charity push." | 6:30:49 | 6:30:54 | |
I've always given back and I always will, | 6:30:54 | 6:30:55 | |
but I think if I can just do one massive, massive push, let's do it. | 6:30:55 | 6:30:59 | |
So...I decided I was going to do London, Paula. | 6:30:59 | 6:31:02 | |
I've tried to bring five charities together | 6:31:04 | 6:31:06 | |
and that's why I'm going through the paces of the marathon to bring them as much. | 6:31:06 | 6:31:11 | |
The same as all these other people that have got their charity tops on, | 6:31:11 | 6:31:14 | |
-it's a real bond. -Can you fit them all on your vest? -I'm trying to think. | 6:31:14 | 6:31:17 | |
I'm trying to do this chequered thing. See a brightly coloured chequered thing. | 6:31:17 | 6:31:22 | |
And then have my name. And on my back, "Leave me alone, I'm dying." | 6:31:22 | 6:31:26 | |
No. "Cheer me on." They will be cheering you a lot though. | 6:31:26 | 6:31:30 | |
But, I mean, talk a little bit about your foundation. | 6:31:30 | 6:31:33 | |
Well, the first reason why I started those charities is cos I realised | 6:31:33 | 6:31:37 | |
that being in a sport that was very high-profile, | 6:31:37 | 6:31:39 | |
we were quite fortunate with our careers after, | 6:31:39 | 6:31:42 | |
the opportunities to do other things. | 6:31:42 | 6:31:44 | |
And there's a lot of sportspeople that don't, so they give up... | 6:31:44 | 6:31:47 | |
You know, they're the same as us, committed, dedicated to their career and they finish sport. | 6:31:47 | 6:31:52 | |
And actually a lot of them were going into depression | 6:31:52 | 6:31:55 | |
or to areas where they really felt like they didn't have an identity any more. | 6:31:55 | 6:31:59 | |
And I kind of felt, "Well, I wonder if I can help generate something | 6:31:59 | 6:32:03 | |
"that guides them back into something else." | 6:32:03 | 6:32:05 | |
Given my own feelings around how I felt about myself and stuff. | 6:32:05 | 6:32:09 | |
And then actually what I really was passionate about | 6:32:09 | 6:32:11 | |
was helping young people believe they can be someone given the chance in life. | 6:32:11 | 6:32:15 | |
Because if Debbie Page hadn't said to me, "Kelly, you've got to get a grip and start doing something," | 6:32:15 | 6:32:19 | |
I could have been anything. I may never have been an athlete, | 6:32:19 | 6:32:22 | |
and I certainly would have been in trouble. | 6:32:22 | 6:32:25 | |
So I think sometimes it's kind of having that one person that can tell you you can be good. | 6:32:25 | 6:32:29 | |
And when we work with young people in areas of deprivation, | 6:32:29 | 6:32:32 | |
where actually their lives feel like they...they're not having one, really, | 6:32:32 | 6:32:36 | |
if we can make that change, for me that is so powerful. | 6:32:36 | 6:32:39 | |
And we've helped over 200,000 people around the country. | 6:32:39 | 6:32:41 | |
And we've got about 450 athletes that we've helped transition. | 6:32:41 | 6:32:45 | |
-And 100 of them work on our programme. So I'm quite proud of that. -You should be. | 6:32:45 | 6:32:48 | |
It's been nine years now, so... You know, coming in. | 6:32:48 | 6:32:51 | |
So, yeah, I'm really proud of that charity. | 6:32:51 | 6:32:53 | |
We're watching a sport that we love, | 6:32:53 | 6:32:56 | |
that I think we both believe is an amazing and brilliant sport, | 6:32:56 | 6:33:00 | |
it's going through a lot of turmoil. | 6:33:00 | 6:33:02 | |
I honestly do believe that kids today coming into the sport | 6:33:02 | 6:33:05 | |
are probably in a better position than they were back when we were getting into the sport. | 6:33:05 | 6:33:09 | |
People say, is it good or bad that it's all been exposed? | 6:33:09 | 6:33:12 | |
For me, it's good. I mean, you know, if things are hidden under the radar, or whatever has happened, | 6:33:12 | 6:33:18 | |
I mean, how they got away with it for that long I do not know, but it then makes things have to change. | 6:33:18 | 6:33:23 | |
You know, you've got to be able to stand there and go, | 6:33:23 | 6:33:26 | |
"We won't ever tolerate this sort of thing in our sport again." | 6:33:26 | 6:33:28 | |
So, in a way, it's a positive. A lot of people coming in | 6:33:28 | 6:33:31 | |
-should think that there potentially could be more of a level playing field. -Uh-huh. | 6:33:31 | 6:33:35 | |
You know, so actually then you're in a better place. | 6:33:35 | 6:33:38 | |
For me also it's more the fact that, you know, | 6:33:38 | 6:33:40 | |
sport should be what sport is about, creating role models, | 6:33:40 | 6:33:43 | |
you know, seeing success, feeling good about yourself. | 6:33:43 | 6:33:48 | |
You know, having achievement. You know, when you see people... | 6:33:48 | 6:33:51 | |
I just remember as a kid, you know, watching the Olympic Games. | 6:33:51 | 6:33:54 | |
I was 14 years old and seeing the passion on people's faces, | 6:33:54 | 6:33:57 | |
it gave me goose bumps. It's why I wanted to be Olympic champion. | 6:33:57 | 6:34:00 | |
It was all about the fact that I saw these massive achievements. | 6:34:00 | 6:34:04 | |
And then you see the flag flying and you see the tears as they're standing. | 6:34:04 | 6:34:08 | |
And for me that's all I knew as a kid, you know, | 6:34:08 | 6:34:10 | |
I just want that to be believable for other children all the time, | 6:34:10 | 6:34:13 | |
that they're supporting their heroes, | 6:34:13 | 6:34:15 | |
they want to emulate them, they want to kind of be, you know, | 6:34:15 | 6:34:19 | |
that is their driver in life, | 6:34:19 | 6:34:21 | |
to use sport as a way of increasing confidence | 6:34:21 | 6:34:24 | |
and the ability to be someone and be proud of yourself. | 6:34:24 | 6:34:27 | |
You know, that's what we need to get back to. | 6:34:27 | 6:34:30 | |
MUSIC: Nothing But Love by James | 6:34:30 | 6:34:34 |