Kelly Holmes: My Marathon Story


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PAULA RADCLIFFE: I've run my fair share of marathons.

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So many miles that I've lost count.

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But I love them, I've made them my career.

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I've put in hours, days, weeks and years of preparation

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over my time, and I know exactly how tough they can be.

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-COMMENTATOR:

-Her Olympic dream is over. What a sad sight.

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I know some people run them for fun. Others, like me, run for a time,

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a medal, and even a world record.

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-COMMENTATOR:

-Watch the clock, she's going to smash the world record.

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That was just unbelievable.

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But my competitive running days are over,

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bowing out at my favourite marathon last year.

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A truly magical day, and one that I will never, ever forget.

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Running your first marathon is always a daunting task,

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and I remember my nerves.

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And this year, a close friend and former team-mate of mine will run

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the iconic 26.2 miles on the streets of London for the first time.

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She's also a double Olympic champion.

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She's Kelly Holmes.

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Ahead of the challenge, I've come to Kelly's hometown in Kent

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to talk about how preparation is going.

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SHE LAUGHS A big marathon.

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Paula, this is your bag.

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We'll also reminisce about the great success she had in her career

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and, of course, those two golds at the Athens Olympics in 2004.

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-COMMENTATOR:

-What a performance!

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You've won it, Kelly, you've won it!

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But also, we'll talk about the hard times, the times away from the track

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that people don't see, when it all got a bit too much for Kelly.

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It got to the point of self-harming, which is

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something that, for an ex-military person, you don't

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think you're ever going to get to that point of despair.

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I know that, having personally gone through lows as well as highs in this sport,

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and knowing her as the person she is, Kelly can conquer anything.

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And that includes the London Marathon.

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-Hello! How are you doing?

-Good, thank you.

-Good to see you.

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-Nice to see you.

-Yeah, you too.

-Thanks for having us in Tonbridge.

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-Yeah, welcome.

-So, this is the track where it all started for you.

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-It was, yes, many years ago.

-Did it look like that then?

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-It was a cinder track, Paula.

-Of course, they all were then.

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And this posh building wasn't there,

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it was a hut on top of a hill, that's what we always used to say.

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-But the wind always was...

-And the fields, I guess.

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And the fields, yes, lovely place, actually, to train.

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I remember the first day because my mum dropped me off on the hill,

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and she said to me, "You'd better...

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"You'd better stick to this one this time."

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Because I used to do all these other sports and give up.

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-But you did stick with it, anyway.

-Yes, I did stick with it, I know. Gosh.

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Your mum brought you down here, like, "Please stick at this one, Kelly."

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But it is important you get the chance to try out all the different things,

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to find the one that you're really passionate about, isn't it?

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Yeah, definitely. I think...

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I was quite fortunate, in a way, that I got given the opportunities

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to go to clubs.

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It was all part of Mum, I suppose, Mum and my stepdad

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and my nan and grandad, because we used to live next door to each other.

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Because they were the ones that took me off to cross-country more,

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to be honest with you. And I hated cross-country with a passion.

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Cold, wet, wind, mud, something... "Really? You're mad!"

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THEY LAUGH

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But I remember that, and I'd be a shivering wreck, you know,

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and crying.

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They would be the ones putting the...kind of blanket around you,

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with the flask and everything.

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And actually, when my mum brought me down, it was

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because my PE teacher, Debbie Page, who's still the PE teacher

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at the same school, 37 years on, I have to say,

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she was my biggest inspiration.

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My mother then brought me down after a phone call from her,

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but it was almost that whole thing of having that support.

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You look back, and actually we're probably quite fortunate

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that we have been given the opportunity.

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I'm just like lots of different children,

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I grew up in the council estate up the road and, you know, you

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never know if you're going to get opportunities in life,

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because things cost money,

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so, you know, I was just fortunate that this was quite close

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and they saw I had a potential, I suppose, the school,

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and my mum wanted me to do something positive with my life,

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so coming here was a big step to that.

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Was it like you had your school life and then athletics life?

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-You almost felt like you were a different person.

-Exactly that.

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I mean, I was not good at school, you know, academically,

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I wasn't good.

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I suppose sport almost made me feel good, as an individual,

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it gave me an identity, because suddenly people see

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you're good at something and want to be part of your team and things.

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I've still got the same friends now, to this day, that I had back in

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school. And I remember Kerry, Lara and Kim, when I watched the Olympics

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in '84, the year that I got inspired to be Olympic champion,

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watching Seb Coe win gold medal in the 1,500m,

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I remember going back into school in the summer holidays

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and saying to Kerry, Lara and Kim, "I'm going to be Olympic champion."

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And they turned round to me and said, "Yeah, you are.

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"Because that's the only thing you're good at."

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THEY LAUGH

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My coach, Dave, he was great, because he tried to progress me

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in the right way as a youngster.

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And I think that was why I was successful at, probably,

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English Schools. And then also, when it's kind of the unknown

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and you're a bit mad, you just don't care, do you?

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So I just used to run, really. Didn't really think about it.

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But then the last English Schools, I won,

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and then I went into the military. And Dave was so upset that I was going, because I think

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he thought I could be a really good senior international athlete,

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and he was devastated that I was joining the military. But I did.

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So, did you stay in touch, all the time you were in the army, with Dave, then?

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Yeah, I stayed in touch, and it wasn't

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until I actually got back into my athletics, so 1992, you remember

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Lisa York, who was a great runner, 3,000...

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1,500m and 3,000m runner?

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-COMMENTATOR:

-And Lisa York takes it on.

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Lisa York from Great Britain with a very, very early run.

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And at that time, I was sitting in my barrack room, in the Army,

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and I remember watching the Olympics and just thinking,

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"Oh, my God, it's Lisa York.

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"I used to race against her, I used to beat her in some things."

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And that sort of ignited my passion, I suppose,

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and my dream to get back into running, you know, properly.

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-And the following year, I went to...was it Stuttgart?

-Mm-hm.

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-COMMENTATOR:

-Kelly Holmes, full of confidence,

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for the second semifinal, for the women's 800m.

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That was a great championship, but I got brought back down to earth

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because I had to fly back to barracks,

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and I'd forgotten I'd changed all my guard duties, so the night I got back from Stuttgart,

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when everyone else is celebrating at home, I'm guarding the barracks at two o'clock in the morning

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with my weapon and my helmet on and the fog coming down, thinking,

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"I was actually at the World Championships earlier."

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-COMMENTATOR:

-Paulino, from Kovacs, from Rainey, from Gurina,

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-from Holmes.

-Well, I thought she ran a great race there.

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You must have kept training the whole time you were in the Army.

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The training I was doing was really with the soldiers, you know.

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Because I was a physical-training instructor by then, so a lot...

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It was military training, so my boots, you know,

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your backpacks on and going over assault courses.

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And actually I think the benefit of that was I was really strong.

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So I knew how to run,

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and running was always part of military training anyway,

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but I think because I was so strong, as a female,

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so when I came back into athletics, I was just a powerhouse.

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And I think that's probably why I done so well early on.

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-COMMENTATOR:

-Rogachova and Podkopayeva,

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and Kelly Holmes is going to hang on.

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And Kelly Holmes gets silver!

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I've got a lot more to prove yet.

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Just need a good winter-season preparation

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and go for medals again next year.

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-COMMENTATOR:

-I think Kelly Holmes should be very,

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very pleased with that.

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She is an absolute heroine tonight.

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She couldn't have done any more than she did.

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And Ceplak gets the gold, Martinez the silver,

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and Kelly Holmes gets the bronze.

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Kelly Holmes, striding out.

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Kelly comes home to take the gold once more for England.

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By gum, does she deserve it.

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2002 was a good year, but you had a little bit of a rough few years,

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didn't you, before we came to 2004 and Athens?

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2003 was the World Indoor Champs in Birmingham.

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I came second.

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And then went to the World Outdoor Championships,

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but before that, I had the worst,

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literally the worst period of my life, and I think it was the whole...

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You know, when you're in sport,

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and if you really believe in it, you live and eat...breathe it,

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really, in a way, but you contend with normal life,

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you know, emotions are the same, you know, you want to be good

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and get knocked down and whatever you go through.

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And I got really bad depression in that year.

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You know, to the point where I...

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You know, it got to the point of self-harming,

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which is something that for an ex-military person...

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I only left after ten years and, you know,

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good-standard international athlete,

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you don't think that you're ever going to get to that point of despair.

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-You know what I mean?

-Hmm.

-But I think I've had such a kind of turmoil.

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-I never would've known until I read about it.

-Yeah.

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And I was thinking... If you kind of feel...

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Could you not have come...? Could I have come and talked to you?

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But you were so good at hiding and, I guess, closing yourself away

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that that kind of makes it grow inside a little bit more, does it?

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Yeah. I think the thing is you kind of, you know, try and deal with everything yourself anyway.

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Because, you know, it's like...

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Whenever athletes are doing really well,

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the last thing you want to do is be the whole...

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"It's all going wrong for me." Because everyone's got to stay positive, ain't they?

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And you try and stay positive outside.

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So, you know, I'd...being in the blooming pool again

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and I'm just, "I'm going to get there!" Cos I had the World Championships coming up.

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You know I mean? And one side of me was like, "I've got this World Championships."

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And the other side was tearing me apart, you know?

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And even... I didn't tell anyone. You look in the mirror and you don't want to even be there.

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You're in a bad state, but I still had this whole thing

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that I could be Olympic champion.

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That was my saving grace,

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because I always believed I could be this person.

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But then, equally, I was just in this emotional wreck and turmoil.

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And so... But then two weeks later,

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I won a silver medal at the World Championships.

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And I stood on the rostrum, like, crying inside thinking,

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"I've got this medal," but also crying inside because of how I was feeling.

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-But I didn't tell anyone.

-APPLAUSE

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It's only over the years that I've obviously got more confident in just talking about it,

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cos I realise actually that sometimes if you are in the public eye,

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you've got a platform to actually have people listen to you.

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And I didn't feel ashamed of what I've done, it's just me.

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And there's so many people in life that...

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one, don't have the chance to talk too much about it

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or don't want to talk about it.

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And I'm just saying we've got to stop the stigmatism,

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cos no matter who you are or the industry you're in,

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there's so many people that suffer

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at all different levels for whatever different reason.

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And if I can talk about it then,

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hopefully, other people will start to talk and say,

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"Look, you can actually ask for help."

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I never really thought that I was ever going to be a person that would get to that point,

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but I clearly am, and it's just part of my life.

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And, actually, it makes...

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what I did in Athens even more important to me,

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and more, kind of, you know, I just feel, "Oh, my gosh!"

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Literally, cos I hung in there and I managed to do it.

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Two laps of the track.

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Less than two minutes of running.

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Concentrate, put yourself in the right place,

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react and hope it's your day.

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GUN FIRES

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CHEERING

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A huge roar goes up. It could be a race to get to the front.

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There are three or four frontrunners in this.

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Jearl Miles Clark looks as though she fancies it.

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Cioncan likes to get to the front, Ceplak does, Maria Mutola sometimes.

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I don't think she'll do it today.

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And, in fact, it's Jearl Miles Clark who's gone through that first 100 metres quickly.

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Kelly at the back as we'd probably expect,

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letting them go through that first 200. There's Cioncan, she likes a good pace as well.

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But Jearl Miles Clark has gone off very, very quickly indeed.

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And this...in the Olympic final

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means that I think we're going to see a quick time.

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But the main protagonists are towards the back.

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Mutola is taking it easy and so is Kelly Holmes,

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last at the moment, but she won't stay there for long.

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Look at the gap between first and last!

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Kelly Holmes absolutely dead last,

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but I think that first 200 metres was very, very quick indeed.

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I think it was 27 seconds and I'm sure Kelly was closer to 29.

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-BELL RINGS

-She's giving Maria Mutola

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a bit too much of a lead.

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But 56.3 for the leader,

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which means that Kelly Holmes and Maria Mutola

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are doing the right thing sitting off the pace.

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I think Ceplak's in trouble there as Kelly Holmes goes past her.

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Kelly Holmes is tracking Maria Mutola.

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Jearl Miles Clark has run a fast, fast race and is beginning to slow

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as Kelly follows in the wake of Maria Mutola!

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Now, remember, Kelly Holmes

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was leading in the Olympic Games in Sydney with 50 metres to go.

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Can she do a bit better this time

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and be leading from 50 metres to the finish?

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Kelly's in a great place there but Mutola knocked her!

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Mutola won't let Kelly Holmes past, she wants to control this!

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Miles Clark has the lead. Kelly Holmes attacking on the outside!

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What has Mutola got left? Has Andrianova got anything?

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What about Miles Clark?

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Kelly Holmes fighting for the gold medal

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with her training partner Maria Mutola!

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Kelly Holmes bringing it home for Britain! Can she get there?

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Come on, Kelly! One more...! Come on, Kelly Holmes!

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It's gold! Kelly's won the gold for Great Britain!

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What a race! What a performance!

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Well, you see my face. I mean, the shock as I crossed the line.

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I never once thought I'd win the 800.

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You've won it, Kelly! You've won it!

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Kelly Holmes is the Olympic champion!

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I just never even thought about being Olympic champion at 800.

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It was never my dream. I just happened to always do 800 and 1,500,

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because that was based on whether I was fit enough to do...

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or strong enough for what one.

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And that's how I picked my races, to be honest, over the years.

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So when I went to the 800,

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I just kind of worked out that I could win a medal if I ran 1.56.

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And my training alluded to that.

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-Uh-huh.

-You know, I was just doing pace...

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pace work all the time. And I knew I could run 1.56,

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I just had to run efficiently and not get knocked over, whatever.

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So then when I actually won, you know, again I won...

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everything I'd lost by the thickness of the top,

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this one I'd won by the thickness of the top. And I remember celebrating.

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I still remember it, even though I've watched it a million times,

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I still actually remember the whole process. Because I remember saying to myself, drop my shoulders,

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relax my shoulders on the last bit, cos normally I was really tense.

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People get tense and their breathing goes and, you know, their form goes.

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And I remember just saying to myself, "Relax the shoulders," cos I'd practised it in training.

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And I took that one vital step forward.

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So I started to celebrate, but in my head it was like,

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"I couldn't have won the 800!" And I felt really embarrassed.

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I was thinking, "Is it going to be shown like that?" And I remember this photographer on the inside,

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a British photographer was jumping up and down going, "Kelly, you've won!"

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And I kind of look at the screen again. I'm looking and... "I've actually won it!"

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-So that real...shock.

-CHEERING

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And I was just thinking, "I'm in the shape of my life here,

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"I could actually get another medal in this champs." I didn't really think about the gold,

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it was just, "I can get another medal."

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So can Kelly Holmes do it again?

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The women's 1,500m final gets under way.

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I think having that mind-set at the right time is critical as well, isn't it?

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Not switching off when actually you could,

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and staying real focused on everything that you've done.

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-And now the race just starts to pick up.

-BELL

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Yevdokimova doesn't let Chojecka get past.

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Kelly Holmes has got to get a bit closer.

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Well, I hope the tiredness of the rounds of the 800m and 1,500m

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aren't catching up with her.

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She was very clever the way she was able

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to bounce off the other athlete on the inside there.

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They're coming in now, just approaching the three-lap marker.

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3.12. So it's still a fast pace, but it's not a suicidal pace,

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it's not a vicious pace.

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And Kelly Holmes now needs to just dig in there.

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There are a few too many yards and little gaps opening now.

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Can she run as controlled as she did in the 800m?

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-Here comes Kelly Holmes!

-There's a lot of pushing and shoving there.

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Tomashova doesn't seem to have much, but she's going to go with Kelly.

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Kelly coming on the outside, looks so easy!

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Has she got enough in the home straight? Chojecka tries to move out.

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Kelly looking around to see where the danger is.

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There doesn't appear to be too much. Now she's got to push on.

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Now she's got to kick for home!

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Kelly Holmes going for two gold medals!

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It's going to be an historic second gold!

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Kelly Holmes for Great Britain wins the 1,500m title!

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What a performance!

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3.57.91. A personal best to boot!

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You are the double Olympic champion, Kelly Holmes!

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That is the greatest performance

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in the history of British distance running,

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the history of British athletics in the Olympic Games.

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The 1,500m, honestly, it was...just like a relief.

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I felt like when I crossed the line, this tonne of weight just went off my shoulders.

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It literally felt like that. It's almost like, you know, if you go back through your life

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and it's like a movie. I was like, "Oh, my God!" All those things that happened and I had done it.

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It was almost like... I couldn't believe it, to be honest with you.

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CHEERING

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You achieved the British record tonight, you ran 3.57.9...

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-You didn't have any idea, did you?

-Did I really do 3.57?!

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-BOTH LAUGH

-Fantastic!

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BRITISH NATIONAL ANTHEM PLAYS

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Personally, I just believe in fate and think that everything that I went through,

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the fact that I stepped to it, you know, I could get it right.

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And probably maybe that was just a...you know, a sign to say, "We've put you through...

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"put you through enough now, you deserve to get it."

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Surely, we're going to call her

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Dame Kelly Holmes tonight after that performance.

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I was with you in Athens and I watched your heartache.

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And this is a very disappointing picture to be looking at.

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And Paula Radcliffe's stopped on the roadside. That's enough.

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Her Olympic dream is over. What a sad sight.

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I don't know what's gone wrong. The crowd in the stadium are trying to give it...

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But that is the end of an Olympic dream for Paula Radcliffe.

6:25:016:25:04

That really just got to me so badly.

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You know I mean? And I felt everything.

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So when I was then preparing,

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that was sort of in my head, the whole thing of...

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you didn't get the opportunity to get your dream.

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Obviously, I wasn't able... I'd had the injury too close

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and, again, didn't talk about things that I probably should have talked about,

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and wasn't able to finish the marathon.

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But I remember then watching you win the 800,

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and I was trying to decide whether to come back and do the 10K or not.

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Even though it wasn't the right decision,

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I wasn't ever going to be able to even finish the 10K.

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Just over nine laps to go and Paula is having a hard one here.

6:25:416:25:46

Oh, and she's stopping. Paula Radcliffe has stepped off the track.

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Well, we said earlier it was a brave decision of her to run.

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She ran a brave race there. Was it a wise decision?

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Well, only Paula can answer that one.

6:25:566:25:58

I still don't regret going out and trying to do it, because...

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-You never know.

-Yeah, it's like I got the answer.

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Otherwise, I'd have been sat in the stands thinking, "I wonder if I could have managed to get round."

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The fact that you did that was just massive. You know, hats off.

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And, actually, I have to say, on the plus side, you took so much pressure off me before the Games,

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because you were, like, in the paper all the time and no-one wanted...

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No-one was interested in me. So it was quite cool. So thank you for that.

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There is Kelly Holmes!

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CHEERING

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MUSIC: Lola's Theme by Shapeshifters

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Sports Personality of the Year 2004...

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Kelly Holmes.

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APPLAUSE

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And now you're embarking on a new journey, with the marathon.

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-BOTH LAUGH

-Paula, this is YOUR bag.

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I'm just...dying for this marathon.

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DANCE MUSIC PLAYS

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So, this is a nice place to come and train and put in some miles.

6:27:156:27:20

Yeah, it is nice actually.

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It's only sort of part of a route that I normally do,

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but Dave, my coach, and I used to come down here

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and do reps around to get off the track.

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That was quite good. And, actually, it was nice that I got off the tarmac,

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-cos I found that pounding on the roads hard.

-And that's what I think

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you're going to find will be your hardest thing,

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it's not going to be the fitness to run the marathon,

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it's going to be your muscles just getting used to the pounding of that distance.

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-My legs ache thinking about it.

-It's good.

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So shall we see how your legs have recovered from that run? Let's go.

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I'm just not a long-distance runner, I literally know that.

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You know, cos even when I was training

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my longest run would probably be like an hour on a Sunday

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or a recovery run, but it would just literally be...

6:28:106:28:13

-You say that, but it was a quick hour.

-No, only when I'm with you.

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-Only if I had to go out with you.

-No, believe me....

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-you ran fast.

-You just sprint!

-BOTH LAUGH

6:28:186:28:21

Cos I'm up on my toes so much and the way that, you know...

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I was speaking to one of the physios and the doctor says...

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He actually looked at my hips and he says the way my hips are actually twisted

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-is allowing me to do what I did as a middle-distance runner.

-Yeah.

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You know, the power and that. He says, "Now you're trying to do longer stuff,

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"it's changing you biomechanically, so you're sitting back more

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"and it's actually now putting so much pressure on your hips."

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And that's what I've had problems with, my hips.

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And the neural tension, like, all my nerves have been inflamed.

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I had to go to the hospital. I had an epidural thing to try and calm it down.

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And I've really, really struggled with that, you know,

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just trying to up a bit of mileage,

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because it's not for the willingness to do it, knowing I have to do it,

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but then, you know, when you're in pain for five days after, you're just like, "Oh, my gosh!"

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But now I've opened my mouth and I'm doing it, I've got no choice.

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And you've got a big motivation to keep you through it

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with the motivation of that target, which is a huge target for charity.

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£250,000 for five charities.

6:29:206:29:22

But that's one of the... Yeah, that's the driver.

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You know, I think when you've got something as a driver,

6:29:256:29:28

that's what's keeping me going, that's why I have to do it now.

6:29:286:29:32

I've done charity for years and I feel passionate about that,

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so if I can actually do more for them, great.

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And the personal challenge.

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Cos, you know, in life we have...

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I always have to have a challenge,

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otherwise it wouldn't be me. And I chose this one.

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CHEERING

6:29:466:29:48

I tell you where it came from, really,

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was that I went to watch some friends last year.

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And I remember going down on the Tube and going up and it was so exciting.

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Everything about people supporting everybody that's running, their loved ones being there.

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You know, you're running around London trying to spot the people.

6:30:026:30:05

And then actually the faces on everybody racing.

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You know, this is everyday people

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who for whatever reason have got a drive to run at the best marathon there ever can be.

6:30:116:30:18

You know, iconic city, just a fabulous, fabulous backdrop for it.

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And I just remember feeling so proud, you know,

6:30:236:30:26

proud to be British and proud to sort of be there.

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And I thought then... You know, I've never said I'll never do one,

6:30:296:30:32

but I've never really wanted to, let's face it.

6:30:326:30:35

But then I thought, it's Olympic year,

6:30:356:30:37

if I'm ever going to have a challenge, maybe that would be then.

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And it was only in January that I really, really thought, "OK, let's do this."

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So January the fourth, I put back on my trainers. "OK, let's go."

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So I went for an eight-mile run and thought, "Oh, my God!"

6:30:476:30:49

And then I just thought, "Do you know what? OK, I want to do one last big charity push."

6:30:496:30:54

I've always given back and I always will,

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but I think if I can just do one massive, massive push, let's do it.

6:30:556:30:59

So...I decided I was going to do London, Paula.

6:30:596:31:02

I've tried to bring five charities together

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and that's why I'm going through the paces of the marathon to bring them as much.

6:31:066:31:11

The same as all these other people that have got their charity tops on,

6:31:116:31:14

-it's a real bond.

-Can you fit them all on your vest?

-I'm trying to think.

6:31:146:31:17

I'm trying to do this chequered thing. See a brightly coloured chequered thing.

6:31:176:31:22

And then have my name. And on my back, "Leave me alone, I'm dying."

6:31:226:31:26

No. "Cheer me on." They will be cheering you a lot though.

6:31:266:31:30

But, I mean, talk a little bit about your foundation.

6:31:306:31:33

Well, the first reason why I started those charities is cos I realised

6:31:336:31:37

that being in a sport that was very high-profile,

6:31:376:31:39

we were quite fortunate with our careers after,

6:31:396:31:42

the opportunities to do other things.

6:31:426:31:44

And there's a lot of sportspeople that don't, so they give up...

6:31:446:31:47

You know, they're the same as us, committed, dedicated to their career and they finish sport.

6:31:476:31:52

And actually a lot of them were going into depression

6:31:526:31:55

or to areas where they really felt like they didn't have an identity any more.

6:31:556:31:59

And I kind of felt, "Well, I wonder if I can help generate something

6:31:596:32:03

"that guides them back into something else."

6:32:036:32:05

Given my own feelings around how I felt about myself and stuff.

6:32:056:32:09

And then actually what I really was passionate about

6:32:096:32:11

was helping young people believe they can be someone given the chance in life.

6:32:116:32:15

Because if Debbie Page hadn't said to me, "Kelly, you've got to get a grip and start doing something,"

6:32:156:32:19

I could have been anything. I may never have been an athlete,

6:32:196:32:22

and I certainly would have been in trouble.

6:32:226:32:25

So I think sometimes it's kind of having that one person that can tell you you can be good.

6:32:256:32:29

And when we work with young people in areas of deprivation,

6:32:296:32:32

where actually their lives feel like they...they're not having one, really,

6:32:326:32:36

if we can make that change, for me that is so powerful.

6:32:366:32:39

And we've helped over 200,000 people around the country.

6:32:396:32:41

And we've got about 450 athletes that we've helped transition.

6:32:416:32:45

-And 100 of them work on our programme. So I'm quite proud of that.

-You should be.

6:32:456:32:48

It's been nine years now, so... You know, coming in.

6:32:486:32:51

So, yeah, I'm really proud of that charity.

6:32:516:32:53

We're watching a sport that we love,

6:32:536:32:56

that I think we both believe is an amazing and brilliant sport,

6:32:566:33:00

it's going through a lot of turmoil.

6:33:006:33:02

I honestly do believe that kids today coming into the sport

6:33:026:33:05

are probably in a better position than they were back when we were getting into the sport.

6:33:056:33:09

People say, is it good or bad that it's all been exposed?

6:33:096:33:12

For me, it's good. I mean, you know, if things are hidden under the radar, or whatever has happened,

6:33:126:33:18

I mean, how they got away with it for that long I do not know, but it then makes things have to change.

6:33:186:33:23

You know, you've got to be able to stand there and go,

6:33:236:33:26

"We won't ever tolerate this sort of thing in our sport again."

6:33:266:33:28

So, in a way, it's a positive. A lot of people coming in

6:33:286:33:31

-should think that there potentially could be more of a level playing field.

-Uh-huh.

6:33:316:33:35

You know, so actually then you're in a better place.

6:33:356:33:38

For me also it's more the fact that, you know,

6:33:386:33:40

sport should be what sport is about, creating role models,

6:33:406:33:43

you know, seeing success, feeling good about yourself.

6:33:436:33:48

You know, having achievement. You know, when you see people...

6:33:486:33:51

I just remember as a kid, you know, watching the Olympic Games.

6:33:516:33:54

I was 14 years old and seeing the passion on people's faces,

6:33:546:33:57

it gave me goose bumps. It's why I wanted to be Olympic champion.

6:33:576:34:00

It was all about the fact that I saw these massive achievements.

6:34:006:34:04

And then you see the flag flying and you see the tears as they're standing.

6:34:046:34:08

And for me that's all I knew as a kid, you know,

6:34:086:34:10

I just want that to be believable for other children all the time,

6:34:106:34:13

that they're supporting their heroes,

6:34:136:34:15

they want to emulate them, they want to kind of be, you know,

6:34:156:34:19

that is their driver in life,

6:34:196:34:21

to use sport as a way of increasing confidence

6:34:216:34:24

and the ability to be someone and be proud of yourself.

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You know, that's what we need to get back to.

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MUSIC: Nothing But Love by James

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