Brendan Foster: A Life in Athletics


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It's really a very simple story. Local lad Brendan makes good.

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When I think about him, I just have to smile.

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-COMMENTATOR:

-This folk hero in the North-East adds another title.

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Brendan Foster is a great athlete.

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What he's achieved on the track is incredible.

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-COMMENTATOR:

-Foster, the gold medal for Britain. That was devastating.

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We've always had great competitors.

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Very few have gone on to put as much back as Brendan has.

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-He's a Geordie, and he's great.

-Nobody didn't like Brendan.

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Everybody loved Brendan.

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MUSIC: Walk Of Life by Dire Straits

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Brendan, you only need to talk to people about why we're up here

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to talk to you, and they've all got a story about you as a lad, seeing you running.

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Tell us about your early running experiences

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and what it was like growing up in this area as a young athlete.

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Well, before I was growing up as a young athlete,

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I was growing up as Newcastle's next centre forward, really.

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My dad brought me to St James' Park with my brother.

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And in this part of the world, football was everything.

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So I wanted to be the next Jackie Milburn.

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-COMMENTATOR:

-Milburn. It's there!

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A couple of years later, Derek Ibbotson broke the world record for the mile

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on a Friday night at the White City

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and the next day, he came to Hebburn, where I lived, where I was born.

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Meeting this guy who was, like, a real legend,

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the world record-holder for the mile,

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that kind of started my interest.

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And then I watched the 1960 Olympics.

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I used to run home after school and get home in time for the athletics.

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I'll never forget Peter Snell in the black vest of New Zealand.

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-COMMENTATOR:

-Peter Snell wins the gold medal.

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I was inspired by him, but then I saw Abebe Bikila, and there were these

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grainy pictures of Abebe Bikila running through the streets of Rome.

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And the track was lit by candles on the side of the Appian Way.

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And he's padding along in bare feet.

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You know, all these other things were

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stimulating my interest in sport and in running.

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But this was, like, real inspiration, that was like...

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I almost decided, "That's what I want to be, I want to be a runner."

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Brendan comes from a working-class family, the oldest of six children,

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with the grades to get himself selected for a grammar school

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where, quite by chance, there was a teacher able to discover

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what this lad was good at.

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We had a teacher who came along, who was interested in athletics,

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found that I was reasonably good at it.

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From then on, it was, like, my football career was stuttering.

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I had met my coach, Stan Long, who was a real inspirational figure.

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Let's just talk about that relationship with Stan,

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because it would seem to me, looking through your life,

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that you're brilliant at helping other people.

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But it's also apparent that you really like a mentor yourself,

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whether it's later on in your broadcasting career with David Coleman,

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and the first person perhaps who fulfilled that role was Stan Long.

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-How important was he?

-He was fundamental.

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Stan came along to me, watched me in a school race, and I finished second.

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And he got me. He said, "Come here, young 'un.

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"Why don't you come and join Gateshead Harriers?"

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So I joined Gateshead Harriers and I met Stan

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and worked with Stan and trained with Stan.

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Later on, I met guys like Lindsay Dunn, who encouraged my career,

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and has done the same with lots of athletes.

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And people like John Caine, who were inspiring.

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And then Charlie Spedding was another one.

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So it became like a unit.

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MUSIC: Children of the Revolution by T.Rex

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I joined Gateshead Harriers as a kid in 1963. So what's that?

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55, 54 years. When did you get to know him?

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Oh, it must have been about three or four years later.

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And he tripped me over. That was the first time I know who he was.

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He tripped me over. It was an accident.

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When he did it later on, it wasn't.

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THEY LAUGH

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Well, I'm younger than you lot, of course.

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I first joined Gateshead Harriers about '69 or '70.

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I didn't know who he was. I just remember him taking the mickey out of everybody

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the first time I met him.

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We just had a stupid sense of humour, I think, we got on really well.

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And I remember his sister, we used to do a training session,

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and we'd get a huge plate of chips cooked by his sister

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after every run.

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-He still likes a plate of chips, doesn't he?

-Yeah.

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THEY LAUGH

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We were like real amateurs.

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We didn't know about running, so we had to read about it.

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We used to read everything we could

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and try to meet these international athletes and ask them questions.

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We learnt empirically, we learnt just by practice.

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And at that time, we were little, tiny, little Gateshead Harriers.

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And, you know, we kind of became on a bit of a mission.

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And eventually, we won the national championships,

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we won the national cross-country, won the national road relay.

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And suddenly, Gateshead Harriers had a little chapter.

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That group of youngsters in the 1960s grew up together,

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competed together and got better together.

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And, eventually, Bren was the best of the bunch.

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I get up at 7.30 in the morning, and then I'm out on the road.

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In terms of time spent running, I would say about three hours a day.

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And then the rest of the 24 hours I spend thinking about running.

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He'd done nothing to make anybody believe

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he was going to be a great athlete.

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And he believed at that stage that he'd make the Olympic team.

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And that's easy to say, but I knew he utterly believed it.

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I don't know where that confidence comes from.

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Getting fitter and getting faster as an athlete,

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thousands, if not millions, of runners do that.

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But it was the development of his belief in himself.

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And it happened, and it started getting better and better.

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And he started going to major championships from 1970 onwards.

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Would you say that was a moment where your perception

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changed about what you could do in this sport?

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1970 was like the first time I ever represented Great Britain

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or England. I'd struggled to get into the trial race to be selected.

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And then I finished second in the trial race, I was on my way there.

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So I went to the Commonwealth Games, I'll never forget.

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The guy that, two years earlier,

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had been sitting in a student flat in Brighton watching a television

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that we didn't even pay a licence for, we opened the cupboard to watch

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the Olympics in '68, and Kip Keino winning the gold medal in the 1500.

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And here I was in 1970 running against Kip Keino.

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-COMMENTATOR:

-Quax, New Zealand lead, Keino, Kenya, second.

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Brendan Foster of England is third.

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I couldn't take my eyes off him, you know, I was like, "Oh."

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-COMMENTATOR:

-Magnificent frontrunning by Keino.

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He wins the title for Kenya.

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And a tremendous fight for third place.

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And Brendan Foster just beats Peter Stewart for bronze medal.

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My friends and family travelled up to Edinburgh.

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Here I was on the rostrum. The Queen was there watching as well.

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So it was like, "My goodness, you know, I think I've arrived here now."

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This lad really has had a fantastic first international season,

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Brendan Foster of Gateshead.

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When I went on to do other things and win other medals,

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and gold medals, I do remember that my wife

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and I were never more excited than the first one.

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Did you come back home and think,

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"OK, I've got to be aiming for Olympic Games now.

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"I've got to be aiming for bigger and better things"?

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No, it probably wasn't that.

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It was probably more like, "OK, now you're on the first rung of the ladder."

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And I realised you had to work hard for this thing,

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and that was the lesson I took.

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Brendan was born within sight of Gateshead, in Hebburn,

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part of the sprawl that sprang up alongside the great River Tyne

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during the Industrial Revolution.

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I think what people saw in Brendan, in the North-East, was just

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he was one of them, you know,

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he spoke like a Geordie and he just seemed as though

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he wasn't a super gifted, you know, sportsperson

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who was swanning around or anything.

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He was real in the sense that he had to graft for what he was getting.

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You know, it wasn't glamorous, it was that, "Get stuck in."

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And when he raced, his head used to roll. You know, it looked hard work.

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And that's what the people of the North-East see in themselves.

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I would class us Geordies as very hard-working.

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Very, very loyal.

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Very supportive. Demanding, honest.

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And I think that's us in a nutshell,

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and I think that's Brendan in a nutshell.

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They love to see people doing well,

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and they love to see people giving it everything they've got.

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And that's what Brendan did.

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You know, when you think about it, as a runner, when I used to

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watch him, you know, he didn't always win the race,

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but you know something, there was nothing left in his tank

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when he finished. He gave it everything he'd got.

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I suppose my first memory of Bren was

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the European Championships back in 1971 in Helsinki.

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-COMMENTATOR:

-The Britons battling like mad.

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And Arese is going to take it, Italy's medal.

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And Szordykowski second, Foster gets third.

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That was a fine 1500 metres by any standard.

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He started to really develop as an athlete,

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and I guess the thing I will always remember Bren for was

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his win in the European Championships in Rome in 1974.

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It was such a huge year for you. What was going on at that time?

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Why did the stars align then?

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Well, I had been training hard and I'd moved through from 1500 metres.

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I ran the Olympic Games in '72 in the 1500 metres, finished fifth.

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Which was a credible performance, you know, that said, you know,

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you're kind of in the world-class but you're not world-class.

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And I realised then, you know,

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I was getting better over longer distances.

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-COMMENTATOR:

-And away they go.

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And then '73, I went to Crystal Palace

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and broke the world record for two miles, which was my first real kind of step forward.

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MUSIC: I Believe in Miracles by The Jackson Sisters

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-COMMENTATOR:

-Brendan Foster of Gateshead adds another notch to a remarkable belt.

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Did you notice a difference in your fame then,

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when you broke a world record like that, in front of a home crowd?

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We were amateur athletes, we weren't attention...

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We didn't brush our hair and wear smart kit, we were runners.

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That's what we were.

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But in those days, athletics was a very popular sport,

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people watched it hugely.

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We talk about the golden area of Coe, Cram and Ovett,

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but really, before that, you had Bren and Dave Bedford,

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who were really kind of showing the youngsters coming through

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what you could achieve.

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And I know for Crammy then coming through later, Bren was a big mentor in

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just how to behave in training, on the track and off the track as well.

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I had this what at the time was this big star, you know,

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kind of really accessible, really close.

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So inevitably, I looked up to him from a very,

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very early age as somebody who I wanted to emulate.

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-Angela Pigford, five-star award. Well done. Great.

-Thank you.

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The thing for me with the training and the social interaction

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in the club and the kids being able to rub shoulders with the top athletes,

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and at that time, we've got Brendan Foster who's winning gold medals and breaking world records

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in the same changing room environment with all these

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young lads who are starstruck and just wanting to be like him.

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And all the mickey taking that's going on all the time, and the banter.

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It's pretty difficult for somebody to sort of develop

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an aura of superiority.

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You had to have respect for what he was achieving

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if you were an athlete or an athletics fan, which everybody had.

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But it didn't make him different when you were with him.

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Do you remember the national at Luton, national cross-country?

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So I'm last onto the bus, trying to get my bag in.

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There was loads of bags there, so I couldn't get it in.

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So I climbed partly in to push it in.

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The next thing I hear is the door slamming behind me.

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And somebody shouts, "OK!" The next thing, we're going up the motorway.

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-I'm in the boot. And...

-With the suitcases?

-Yeah.

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Nobody would admit who it was.

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And do you know what, he admitted it two years ago.

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-Took him 40 years to admit...

-That he'd locked you in the boot?

-Yeah.

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When Brendan first reached towards the highest

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honours in athletics, his first world record in 1973,

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he was a schoolteacher, an ideal job for an athlete.

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-Tell us what the job was like?

-We were amateurs.

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Normally, I would run to school and run home.

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The only people in it were people who loved it, who were there

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because they wanted to be runners.

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And they all had jobs and then they found time

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here and there to fit their training in.

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I mean, the sport was almost designed

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to stop you from earning money.

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I mean, I broke the world record at Crystal Palace in 1973.

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I didn't get paid for it, the sponsors decided,

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"It was such a good performance, we should give Brendan something."

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So they gave me a silver salver, you know. "OK, great."

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In '74, Gateshead Council put on a function at the town hall

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where they gave me an award for breaking the world record.

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We'd heard a rumour they were building a tartan track.

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And after a couple of drinks, I get up and reply to the guests,

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as the guest of honour, and I remember saying,

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"If you do refurbish the track and make it into a tartan track,

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"I'll come and I'll break the world record."

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A typical piece of Geordie bravado,

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but the people of the North-East really bought into that.

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He challenged, as he often does,

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Gateshead Council to turn what was a pretty dilapidated stadium

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into a venue that could host world-class athletics.

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Because he basically said, "You build the stadium,

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"you put the money up, and I'll get the athletes to come." Simple.

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I was working in London at that time,

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I drove from London to Gateshead to watch that meeting.

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And I remember the stadium being absolutely jammed.

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I ran one of my best physical races

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ever in that race and broke the world record by a couple of seconds.

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The world record smashed by 2.4 seconds, a present to Gateshead.

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It was a difficult time in the North-East of England.

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The shipyards were closing, mines were closing.

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It was quite a depressing place to live.

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Gateshead, a town of the Industrial Revolution,

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suffering from unemployment.

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And houses which stand back-to-back

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because they seem to be ashamed to look each other in the face.

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This is old Gateshead.

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The reason why it's particularly valuable for a sports centre is

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because of the great number of people who are living here.

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So far, the new running track is the only part of the plan

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that has been finished.

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It's not just for big games, it's part of the concept that

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Gateshead encourages sport for all its citizens.

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This is the stadium.

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This is where it all started, really, in terms of your track life, wasn't it?

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-And it didn't look like this when you broke your world record.

-No.

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-Unrecognisable, really.

-And there we go, that's what we've come to see.

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The council has kindly... Let's see if I can...

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Can't get it off, so it will have to stay.

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Thank you.

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So, tell me, when you walk out here, what kind of emotions

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and feelings and memories come to mind?

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Great memories, because there's been some great occasions here.

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Great athletes have come here.

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You know, we've had Linford Christie running against Carl Lewis here.

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It was so busy that day, they had to import stands from the Open golf

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and put them on the far side.

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I think I've probably always felt part of what

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we should do is bring the very best to the region

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because you inspire people to take part in events by seeing them...

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Everybody taking part.

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But you inspire excellence by seeing the very best.

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I mean, you're literally standing here in the fourth lane here.

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That's the lane where Asafa Powell broke the world record for the 100 metres.

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-Wow.

-And that's a little bit of... That's a little bit of history.

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Because there aren't many stadiums in the world

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where the 100-metre record was set.

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You have just seen the fastest man on earth.

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Wow!

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You would be doing track sessions here regularly ahead of your big events.

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You would have been down here putting in those hard sessions

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that you were learning and picking up from the best in the world.

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I probably was never in lane four. I probably was always on the inside.

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Lane four was only for you and world-record holders.

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For the slow joggers on the outside.

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Yeah, we used to come here and we used to have jogging.

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Even then, we were encouraging participation.

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People used to come to the stadium to jog on the track.

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Jog on the outside lanes.

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The Commonwealth Games in '74 were out in New Zealand

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and I set British records

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for 1500m and 5000m

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and narrowly lost the 5000m in one of the great 5000m races.

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It would have been greater if I'd won it but...

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Jipcho coming. They've got about 50 metres left

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and Foster's coming back.

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The lap runner may be in the way, but Jipcho's getting it.

0:17:080:17:12

For Foster, the silver.

0:17:120:17:14

When I went to the European Championships, I was favourite,

0:17:140:17:17

but I was running against Lasse Viren,

0:17:170:17:18

who was a double Olympic champion.

0:17:180:17:20

And I thought, "The only way I'm going to beat him

0:17:200:17:23

"is to make it hard all the way."

0:17:230:17:24

So I had a couple of guys sharing a room with me and I said,

0:17:240:17:28

"Look, don't tell anybody, but I'm going to try and break away from the field.

0:17:280:17:32

"So if you go in the back straight

0:17:320:17:34

"and take the bedsheets from the room,

0:17:340:17:36

"when I get a good enough gap, start waving the bedsheets,

0:17:360:17:40

"then I'll know that I've got a good enough gap and I can just keep going."

0:17:400:17:43

He just demolished the field

0:17:450:17:46

and you're talking about Lasse Viren in the field.

0:17:460:17:49

You know, he was the Mo of his era

0:17:490:17:52

and right in the middle of that era, Bren took him on and took him apart.

0:17:520:17:57

Foster, the man who has led from gun to tape.

0:17:570:18:01

Foster the gold medal for Britain.

0:18:010:18:03

Brendan was a very tough and formidable athlete.

0:18:030:18:06

I think if you were racing Bren,

0:18:060:18:08

you must have known that you were going to have a hard race.

0:18:080:18:12

And I think we forget a little bit, until you look back at clips,

0:18:120:18:16

just how well he judged races.

0:18:160:18:19

That was my best year, '74,

0:18:200:18:22

and I won the BBC Sports Personality Of The Year.

0:18:220:18:24

I cut myself shaving just before the programme

0:18:240:18:26

and I had a plaster on my cheek.

0:18:260:18:29

-But it wasn't...

-Classy!

0:18:290:18:31

But it wasn't showbiz, it was different.

0:18:310:18:33

It wasn't showbiz in those days.

0:18:330:18:35

Howay the lads! Brendan Foster.

0:18:350:18:38

It was a big programme, it was a big show.

0:18:440:18:46

It's an honour to win it, especially when you look at the names next to you.

0:18:460:18:50

It's been a fantastic year for athletics

0:18:500:18:51

and I accept this award on behalf of my sport

0:18:510:18:55

and also on behalf of the North and the North-East of England, who I represent.

0:18:550:19:00

It was great, but the thing about it was the next morning,

0:19:020:19:05

I'd be out training because that's what we did.

0:19:050:19:07

So when you talk about celebrity and showbiz, this was the '70s.

0:19:070:19:12

But you must have had some occasions that you found yourself at

0:19:120:19:16

where you thought around that time, "This is amazing."

0:19:160:19:19

Funnily enough, I was invited by Harold Wilson to Number Ten

0:19:190:19:23

for some kind of function.

0:19:230:19:24

At the end of the sort of rather dull affair,

0:19:240:19:26

a tap on the shoulder and, "Harold would like you to come up

0:19:260:19:29

"to his private rooms upstairs for a nightcap."

0:19:290:19:33

So my wife, Sue, and I went upstairs to his room,

0:19:330:19:36

we were standing around.

0:19:360:19:37

There's a piano in the middle and suddenly the door opens,

0:19:370:19:41

in walks this little guy, comes up to the piano

0:19:410:19:43

and starts playing the piano and it was Frank Sinatra.

0:19:430:19:46

Did he ask you for tips on his running?

0:19:460:19:49

No, but you would have thought he could have said,

0:19:490:19:51

"Brendan, can you just sing My Way and I'll accompany you," but he didn't.

0:19:510:19:55

TELEPHONE RINGS

0:19:550:19:58

Hello?

0:19:580:20:00

Yes, Alan. It's about this fixture at Gateshead...

0:20:000:20:02

You were working for the council.

0:20:020:20:04

-So you'd stopped teaching at this point.

-Yeah.

0:20:040:20:07

And I think that's what a lot of people at that period

0:20:070:20:09

saw you as somebody who was an activist almost, I suppose.

0:20:090:20:13

Because once you get into a political role like that,

0:20:130:20:16

you champion causes, don't you? And you see how things work and...

0:20:160:20:19

That's an interesting point.

0:20:190:20:21

I'd never thought of myself as an activist,

0:20:210:20:23

but there weren't that many people running. It wasn't like it is now.

0:20:230:20:26

-You were on a mission.

-It wasn't like a political mission or anything like that.

0:20:260:20:30

It was like, "This is good fun, it's good for you.

0:20:300:20:33

"Why don't you try it?"

0:20:330:20:34

He started inviting me to the international meetings

0:20:340:20:39

that he organised and I remember having supper with him and Sue

0:20:390:20:42

and I must have spent the whole evening just quizzing him about his mileage

0:20:420:20:47

and what he did in training and his attitude and all that sort of stuff.

0:20:470:20:50

So if there is one single person beyond the inspirational training

0:20:500:20:54

of my father, who got me to understand just what it was going to take

0:20:540:20:59

to become a world-class athlete, it was Brendan.

0:20:590:21:02

And for that, I will be eternally and mountainously grateful.

0:21:020:21:06

I used to go and see him regularly in his office as a teenager,

0:21:060:21:10

when I first started to go well and he was my mentor.

0:21:100:21:14

He'll be supportive but, on the other hand, he'll never kid you.

0:21:140:21:17

You know, he'll be straight and that's how he used to run.

0:21:170:21:20

There was no fluff and nonsense with Brendan.

0:21:200:21:23

You know, when you go and perform in the world arenas,

0:21:230:21:26

there's 600 million people watching you running in the Olympics,

0:21:260:21:29

you know, you've got to be a brave man to actually step out there to begin with.

0:21:290:21:33

You know, if you make a fool of yourself, then you're a pretty famous fool.

0:21:330:21:37

I first met him when I was a junior.

0:21:370:21:39

I remember one time I walked in the BBC and said,

0:21:390:21:42

"I was supposed to do well in that race, but I didn't do it as well."

0:21:420:21:46

I went and knocked on the door and said,

0:21:460:21:47

"Are you going to interview me?"

0:21:470:21:49

And then he was like, "Erm, maybe when you win medals."

0:21:490:21:52

All over Britain, there are men running through the night.

0:21:560:21:59

Amongst them is one man with real hopes

0:21:590:22:02

of doing what no British athlete has ever done before -

0:22:020:22:06

win an Olympic gold medal in one of the three classic distance events.

0:22:060:22:10

How important was an Olympic medal to you at that point?

0:22:110:22:16

Well, in '76 when it came to the 10,000m, I was one of the favourites.

0:22:160:22:20

Lasse Viren was the big favourite and I was...

0:22:210:22:26

Judging by everything I had done,

0:22:260:22:27

I was in a position to challenge Lasse Viren.

0:22:270:22:31

And everyone else thought that as well.

0:22:310:22:33

I think he's the best in the world

0:22:330:22:34

and I think he's going to win tonight.

0:22:340:22:36

If he does win, I hope they build a bigger stadium for children.

0:22:360:22:41

That night, it wasn't only the lads of Gateshead who went home to watch the telly.

0:22:410:22:45

600 million people around the world tuned in

0:22:450:22:48

to this strange bowl in Montreal.

0:22:480:22:51

He was never one for excuses, he never made excuses.

0:22:510:22:55

But in Montreal, he had a really bad stomach upset.

0:22:550:22:58

SHOUTS OF ENCOURAGEMENT

0:23:020:23:05

He told me later that after he'd gone five or six laps,

0:23:050:23:10

he really felt he couldn't do another lap.

0:23:100:23:13

So he just told himself,

0:23:130:23:14

"One lap at a time."

0:23:140:23:16

And he still hung on for another 20 laps.

0:23:160:23:18

Just let him get a medal.

0:23:200:23:21

So Viren wins his third Olympic gold medal

0:23:240:23:27

and he's the 10,000m champion once more.

0:23:270:23:30

Lopes in second place.

0:23:300:23:32

Brendan Foster, for Great Britain, comes in with the bronze.

0:23:320:23:36

20 million people watched your final on television in the UK.

0:23:390:23:44

That's right. I mean, that was a huge audience in that year

0:23:440:23:48

and the first thing I felt was disappointment.

0:23:480:23:51

You know, I felt as though I'd let those people down.

0:23:510:23:55

Third - Brendan Foster.

0:23:550:23:58

Great Britain.

0:23:590:24:01

I didn't run well and I was disappointed with that.

0:24:010:24:04

But, you know, I came away with Britain's only medal that year.

0:24:050:24:08

The greatest athlete in this country that's been produced

0:24:110:24:13

in the middle distance by a long way.

0:24:130:24:16

And I think everyone's proud, not only in the North-East

0:24:160:24:18

but surely all the country. They must be.

0:24:180:24:20

He went to every major Games from 1970 to 1976,

0:24:220:24:27

and every time he went,

0:24:270:24:29

he either came back with a medal or a British record.

0:24:290:24:33

He never didn't deliver.

0:24:330:24:35

It was then that I thought, "Right, keep going. Do the same again."

0:24:350:24:40

And I managed it at '78, won the Commonwealth Games

0:24:400:24:43

in the 10,000m, so I'd had bronze in my first Commonwealth,

0:24:430:24:47

silver in my second Commonwealth, and then gold in the third.

0:24:470:24:50

Got the full set.

0:24:500:24:51

So this man, who's really a folk hero in the North-East,

0:24:510:24:55

adds another title.

0:24:550:24:57

Foster wins the Commonwealth Championship.

0:24:570:24:59

In 1980 in Moscow, which was a difficult time,

0:25:010:25:04

difficult Games, I was disappointed with my own performance.

0:25:040:25:07

I finished 11th and I should have been in the first three or four.

0:25:070:25:11

And that's when I retired.

0:25:110:25:12

Did you set out at that point thinking,

0:25:150:25:17

"I'd like to be a broadcaster now"?

0:25:170:25:19

I finished in 1980, and I finished in the 10,000m,

0:25:190:25:23

and then the head of BBC Sport came to see me.

0:25:230:25:25

He said, "We've got the big Coe-Ovett race

0:25:250:25:27

"coming up in a few days' time."

0:25:270:25:29

And I'd been sharing a room with Seb.

0:25:290:25:31

And he said, "Would you come into the BBC commentary box

0:25:310:25:34

"and join David Coleman, and give your view of the race and tactics?"

0:25:340:25:38

And I said, "Oh, that would be quite good."

0:25:380:25:40

So I went to see the head of the British Olympic Association,

0:25:400:25:43

and he said, "Once you're safely back to London,

0:25:430:25:45

"I can discharge you from the British Olympic team,

0:25:450:25:48

"and then you can come back to Moscow, and..."

0:25:480:25:50

-And work for the BBC.

-"..join the BBC."

0:25:500:25:52

I said, "Hang on. They're just over the road there.

0:25:520:25:54

"Why don't I just go from here to there,

0:25:540:25:56

"and they'll sign bits of paper, and you sign bits of paper,

0:25:560:25:58

"and then I can commentate on the biggest race of the century?"

0:25:580:26:02

"No, no. You can't do that."

0:26:020:26:03

So I got to London, rang them up, said, "I'm not coming back."

0:26:030:26:06

So I didn't.

0:26:060:26:08

So my first commentary would have been Coe versus Ovett

0:26:080:26:12

in the Olympic final...

0:26:120:26:14

-Wow.

-..in 1980.

0:26:140:26:16

And Coe gets the revenge he wants!

0:26:160:26:18

Did you feel at that point that there was this exciting

0:26:200:26:23

crop of runners coming through, and the sport was in good nick?

0:26:230:26:25

It was great at the end of my career,

0:26:250:26:28

because I'd been in the Olympics in the 1500m in '72,

0:26:280:26:31

as the only Briton in the final,

0:26:310:26:33

and then here I was in 1980 where Coe and Ovett were the rivals,

0:26:330:26:37

and a young Steve Cram in the same race,

0:26:370:26:40

which is why one of my favourite ever race commentaries

0:26:400:26:43

was in 1984 in Los Angeles, when,

0:26:430:26:47

coming down the home straight with a lap to go, there was

0:26:470:26:49

Coe, Ovett and Cram all vying for the lead,

0:26:490:26:53

and I thought, "If that's anything to do with me having been

0:26:530:26:56

"influential with these guys in those early years,

0:26:560:26:58

"then I'll take that one."

0:26:580:27:01

Sebastian Coe, back at his best, is the Olympic champion again.

0:27:010:27:06

Cram gets the silver.

0:27:060:27:07

-COMMENTARY:

-Sebastian Coe,

0:27:070:27:09

establishing himself as the world's premier 1500m runner again.

0:27:090:27:13

It was an incredibly glamorous Games, wasn't it?

0:27:130:27:16

Funnily enough, and I'll bring you back to earth, here,

0:27:160:27:19

because the first ever commentary I did

0:27:190:27:21

was with David Coleman at a cross-country

0:27:210:27:24

-in Gateshead in November.

-I'm not saying you didn't do the groundwork.

0:27:240:27:27

No, no, no, no, but the reason I'm saying it is

0:27:270:27:28

because we met for a drink, and then at eight o'clock,

0:27:280:27:31

"Right, that's it, I'm off,

0:27:310:27:32

"so I can study the form on the runners."

0:27:320:27:35

So I went home that night, thinking,

0:27:350:27:37

"Here's the greatest commentator who's ever lived,

0:27:370:27:40

"and it's a cross-country in Gateshead in November of 1980,

0:27:400:27:44

"and he's going upstairs to his room to learn about what's happening

0:27:440:27:48

"and who's running, and all of that."

0:27:480:27:49

And I thought, "I didn't realise it was like this."

0:27:490:27:52

I thought it was like showbiz, you know? Then he said to me...

0:27:520:27:54

on the day, he said, "And just be a bit careful." I said, "Why's that?"

0:27:540:27:57

He says, "Don't speak until you've got something to say." And I said...

0:27:570:28:01

I thought, "Yeah, OK..."

0:28:010:28:02

And I didn't realise that was a great lesson.

0:28:020:28:05

-COMMENTARY:

-A very testing course.

0:28:050:28:07

If someone can come out of this winning it

0:28:070:28:09

in convincing fashion, then he could sort of clinch himself a spot

0:28:090:28:12

maybe as number one in Britain.

0:28:120:28:13

-INTERVIEW:

-Commentating on something which you love,

0:28:130:28:16

and that you know a little bit about,

0:28:160:28:18

is a total honour and privilege.

0:28:180:28:21

There's so many great moments for you to look back on

0:28:210:28:23

through your commentary career. Where would you start?

0:28:230:28:27

Where would you be compiling your top list?

0:28:270:28:30

Actually, that's a really... That's a really good question.

0:28:300:28:33

It probably would be Coe, Ovett and Cram in the 1984 Olympics,

0:28:330:28:36

but that'll be different if I say it again in a week's time.

0:28:360:28:39

-COMMENTARY:

-The great Mo Farah.

0:28:390:28:41

He really is one of the greatest of all time.

0:28:410:28:43

I never, ever thought I'd see the day we'd witness

0:28:430:28:46

a sight like this in London.

0:28:460:28:48

Paula Radcliffe, on her way to a famous victory.

0:28:480:28:52

Gebrselassie won this race because he doesn't know how to lose.

0:28:520:28:55

There goes David Rudisha, a proud Maasai warrior.

0:28:550:29:00

That's the best I've ever seen, and it's better than that.

0:29:000:29:02

It's better than anything I've ever read about.

0:29:020:29:04

It's been a pleasure watching you. Well done, Catherine.

0:29:040:29:07

Why, thank you, Mr Foster.

0:29:070:29:08

You hear him before you actually see the events.

0:29:090:29:12

You know, you could be off making yourself a cup of tea or coffee,

0:29:120:29:14

and that voice just booms through your television.

0:29:140:29:18

I just love listening to him

0:29:180:29:20

and Crammy alongside each other for the long distance races,

0:29:200:29:23

because they brought such passion to it,

0:29:230:29:26

and Brendan, particularly, was almost telling us the tactics,

0:29:260:29:29

reliving the race as if he was running it as well.

0:29:290:29:32

The secret of distance running is unfolding here,

0:29:320:29:35

and every inch of the way, he's getting faster.

0:29:350:29:38

He's honest, when he commentates. He tells you how it is.

0:29:380:29:42

It does help you a lot, when you look back and go,

0:29:420:29:44

"Yeah, you were right, Brendan."

0:29:440:29:46

Gather yourself again, Mo.

0:29:460:29:48

Looking over his shoulder's not the thing to do.

0:29:480:29:50

You've got to look ahead of yourself.

0:29:500:29:52

I think Bren enjoys seeing good athletics. He's just a fan,

0:29:520:29:58

and I think sometimes when you hear in his commentary

0:29:580:30:01

how he gets excited,

0:30:010:30:03

you can see it's because he has that huge passion for the sport.

0:30:030:30:05

I can see when Brendan

0:30:050:30:07

and I are getting almost emotionally involved in it, because

0:30:070:30:10

we know how good it is, we know what we're watching, we're enjoying it,

0:30:100:30:14

hoping that you are all enjoying it at home as well.

0:30:140:30:18

If nobody's listening, though, we're having a great time.

0:30:180:30:21

Farah is going to make it two gold medals for Great Britain!

0:30:210:30:25

Beautiful!

0:30:250:30:26

The place erupts.

0:30:290:30:30

Mo Farah, double Olympic champion. I'll never get tired of saying that.

0:30:320:30:35

When you do the London Marathon,

0:30:370:30:38

so many people say they can hear Brendan Foster. Paula said it.

0:30:380:30:42

-She can hear you in her head.

-That's a bit scary, isn't it, that?

0:30:420:30:45

Well, no. I mean, that's because...

0:30:450:30:47

I was privileged to have done every London Marathon,

0:30:470:30:50

and it was from the first, when I thought it was really exciting

0:30:500:30:53

and all that, to all those years of a wonderful event.

0:30:530:30:57

When I first joined the athletics team, it was all new to me,

0:30:590:31:03

and the one person I could rely on was Brendan.

0:31:030:31:06

He not only gave me support, but gave me so much information,

0:31:060:31:10

and for someone to be that generous

0:31:100:31:12

when they're already busy themselves just meant so much to me,

0:31:120:31:16

and we just became incredibly close friends as well.

0:31:160:31:20

So the training is over. It is now time to deliver.

0:31:200:31:23

-So, Brendan...

-Thank you very much.

0:31:230:31:26

That wasn't very nice, the way you said that!

0:31:260:31:28

When I think about him, I just have to smile.

0:31:280:31:30

You know, when I came into the team, the BBC sport team, he was one

0:31:300:31:33

of the first people to make me feel very welcome, welcome me in, um...

0:31:330:31:37

Showed me the ropes.

0:31:370:31:39

He likes to guide people.

0:31:390:31:40

He likes to be the man in charge,

0:31:400:31:42

but he does it with such a lovable, caring way.

0:31:420:31:46

My first memory is of being invited into the commentary box

0:31:460:31:49

up in Durham at the cross-country,

0:31:490:31:51

and being invited in with David Coleman and Bren,

0:31:510:31:54

and I was watching out of the window,

0:31:540:31:56

and Bren asked me a question and I wasn't looking

0:31:560:31:58

and paying attention, and he told me off for that.

0:31:580:32:00

I think he's at his very best whenever there's an issue,

0:32:000:32:05

or something happens at a major Games.

0:32:050:32:08

I've just been handed a piece of paper here that,

0:32:080:32:10

if it's right, it'll be the most dramatic story

0:32:100:32:12

out of these Olympics or perhaps any others.

0:32:120:32:14

You've been there throughout those highs and lows in athletics.

0:32:140:32:17

There've been times, obviously, with great controversy.

0:32:170:32:20

1988 was when all of the rumours

0:32:200:32:22

about what was going on

0:32:220:32:24

in the sport actually came out.

0:32:240:32:26

It's Johnson away...

0:32:260:32:27

and the world record

0:32:270:32:29

has gone again!

0:32:290:32:31

And Johnson's answered everybody.

0:32:310:32:34

You sometimes wonder whether the damage is irreparable,

0:32:340:32:37

because, at the end of the day,

0:32:370:32:38

when Ben Johnson won the Olympic 100m gold in Seoul,

0:32:380:32:41

and then was banned, he destroyed that Olympic Games, really.

0:32:410:32:45

I know how strongly he feels about people doing...

0:32:450:32:49

doing the sport properly.

0:32:490:32:52

You know, he came through a system where if you made it to the top,

0:32:520:32:55

you made it to the top because it was hard work.

0:32:550:32:58

You had good natural talent.

0:32:580:33:01

And I know Brendan has a real problem with people that just

0:33:010:33:04

don't see the sport as being based on those fundamental pillars.

0:33:040:33:09

Men's 100m final.

0:33:090:33:12

Well, I think there was a lot of tension,

0:33:120:33:14

a lot of emotions at play in that stadium in Beijing.

0:33:140:33:18

It was kind of like the good

0:33:180:33:19

and the evil of the sport racing against each other.

0:33:190:33:23

When Usain Bolt won,

0:33:230:33:24

that erupted into almost like a reggae festival in the stadium,

0:33:240:33:28

and so Bren just, as we all did, I think was really caught up in it.

0:33:280:33:33

He was dancing, and I videoed it, and I think I tweeted it.

0:33:350:33:38

I have to say, I didn't think he had the moves myself, but he surprised

0:33:380:33:42

a few people, and it went viral,

0:33:420:33:44

much to the delight of his granddaughter.

0:33:440:33:46

The only time ever in my commentary career where

0:33:480:33:51

I ever got emotional was a few years ago.

0:33:510:33:53

We had Haile Gebrselassie, Mo Farah,

0:33:530:33:56

and Kenenisa Bekele, running together in the Great North Run.

0:33:560:33:59

-COMMENTARY:

-These three athletes running past Gateshead Stadium...

0:33:590:34:03

It warms my heart, actually, watching them.

0:34:030:34:05

It's absolutely fantastic to see. They're three of the greatest.

0:34:050:34:08

I was very proud that there they were doing it on the road

0:34:080:34:11

out there, passing the stadium where it started for me.

0:34:110:34:15

I think the Great North Run will be the thing which, you know,

0:34:150:34:18

people will always associate with Brendan, his vision

0:34:180:34:22

and his dream for what was possible, and again, no barriers around,

0:34:220:34:27

"Hey, why don't we do it in the North-East?

0:34:270:34:29

"We've put a track in place. We've brought world-class athletics.

0:34:290:34:32

"We've done that. So why don't we go the next step with this?"

0:34:320:34:35

They come from all parts of the world to run in it, to enjoy it,

0:34:350:34:41

not just the professionals, but people running it to have fun.

0:34:410:34:45

For Brendan to have created all of that is one hell of an achievement.

0:34:450:34:49

Everything stops for the Great North Run,

0:34:490:34:52

and when you've got such a vantage point, it's a shame to waste it.

0:34:520:34:56

The question that we have to ask is, "Why? How? Where?"

0:34:560:35:00

Where do you get off coming up with this idea that you're

0:35:000:35:02

going to take thousands of people from Newcastle to Sunderland

0:35:020:35:06

on a run?

0:35:060:35:08

Well, like all good ideas,

0:35:080:35:09

you've got to copy it from somebody else, haven't you?

0:35:090:35:12

So I was in with Dave Moorcroft.

0:35:120:35:15

We were in New Zealand in 1980, training for the Olympics,

0:35:150:35:18

and we were invited to run in a race called

0:35:180:35:20

Round the Bays in Auckland, and there were about

0:35:200:35:22

10,000 people running.

0:35:220:35:23

He's running along, and he says, "This is great.

0:35:230:35:25

"We finish at the beach and everyone's having barbecues

0:35:250:35:28

"and picnics. It's wonderful.

0:35:280:35:29

"I'm going to organise one of these when I pack in next year."

0:35:290:35:32

We'll have a run starting in the city, in Newcastle,

0:35:320:35:35

and we'll finish at the seaside, just like Auckland. It's like...

0:35:350:35:40

-Sorry.

-You're not supposed to laugh.

0:35:400:35:41

The first obstacle was,

0:35:430:35:44

"How do you get to the beach without going over the Tyne Bridge?"

0:35:440:35:47

"Yeah, yeah. We'll get to that."

0:35:470:35:48

Isn't it true, or is it an urban myth that you didn't actually get

0:35:480:35:51

permission, did you, for the first Great North Run?

0:35:510:35:54

That's a very raw point, because we still don't have permission.

0:35:540:35:58

I wrote a letter to the Chief of Police, saying,

0:35:580:36:00

"We're thinking of organising this fun run,

0:36:000:36:03

"and we may need to close a few roads," and his reply was,

0:36:030:36:06

"We don't normally encourage activities like this

0:36:060:36:08

"on the highway."

0:36:080:36:10

So when we've gone back in recent years to find out

0:36:100:36:13

the paper trail, there isn't a paper trail.

0:36:130:36:15

It stops after the Chief of Police saying, "No, you can't do it."

0:36:150:36:18

So I don't know how it happened, but it happened, you know?

0:36:180:36:20

To get to the point where you've had the millionth finisher,

0:36:200:36:23

that's pretty incredible, isn't it?

0:36:230:36:25

Yeah, well, the Chief of Police wouldn't stop us now, would he?

0:36:250:36:27

One million! One million runners.

0:36:290:36:32

One million stories, and a million smiles as well.

0:36:320:36:36

You've had this rich heritage of starters who have always...

0:36:370:36:42

-You've tapped into North-East icons, haven't you?

-Well, look.

0:36:420:36:44

I mean, to be honest with you, it's amazing.

0:36:440:36:47

The first starter was a guy called Mike Neville,

0:36:470:36:50

who was our local TV...

0:36:500:36:51

He was our local TV hero, and from then on, you know,

0:36:510:36:54

Bobby Charlton and Jackie Charlton, and Alan Shearer and Bobby Robson...

0:36:540:36:58

-Sting.

-..Jonathan Edwards, Sting...

0:36:580:37:00

And believe it or not, and they'll deny it when they see this,

0:37:000:37:03

but Ant and Dec asked me if they could start, and they're, like...

0:37:030:37:07

They're icons of British entertainment.

0:37:070:37:09

Well, they looked at the list and thought, "Why are we not in there?"

0:37:090:37:12

-COMMENTARY:

-I tell you what - the first marathon prize of the day

0:37:120:37:14

has got to be for Ant and Dec.

0:37:140:37:15

I mean, they literally have clapped

0:37:150:37:17

and shaken hands with a hell of a lot...

0:37:170:37:20

He's weary now.

0:37:200:37:22

That's Dec. Sorry, that's Ant, Steve.

0:37:220:37:24

-STEVE LAUGHS

-Oh, dear.

0:37:240:37:27

Mark Knopfler from Dire Straits,

0:37:280:37:30

obviously a huge band from this area, and Local Hero, is...

0:37:300:37:34

..synonymous with the whole city,

0:37:360:37:37

but especially with the Great North Run.

0:37:370:37:39

He's told me since that when he hears it on the Great North Run,

0:37:390:37:42

he sees all those people running across the Tyne Bridge,

0:37:420:37:44

the hairs on the back of his neck stand up.

0:37:440:37:46

MUSIC: Going Home by Dire Straits

0:37:460:37:51

-People called it a fun run at the time.

-I don't know.

0:37:510:37:53

If you ever do it, the last thing you think about is fun.

0:37:530:37:55

It's a long way, 13.5 miles, I don't care what you say.

0:37:550:37:58

I got this kit design where I was half Newcastle and half Sunderland.

0:37:580:38:02

I've never run it. I have no desire to run it at all.

0:38:020:38:06

I couldn't, because of my knees and my ankles and back.

0:38:060:38:10

-That's my excuse, anyway.

-I'd got some new shoes,

0:38:100:38:13

and I got about four miles into the run, and they were killing me,

0:38:130:38:16

so I stopped, and there was a kid at the side of the road

0:38:160:38:19

with his dad. He'd be about 10, 11 years old. I said, "Will you swap?"

0:38:190:38:22

He said, "Yeah," and I took his shoes. I took this kid's shoes,

0:38:220:38:27

and I ran the rest of it in comfort in his shoes.

0:38:270:38:31

I don't think I'll be playing football this year again.

0:38:310:38:34

You used to be able to take part in the Great North Run...

0:38:340:38:37

You know, they have on the Saturday where you do the one mile,

0:38:370:38:39

two mile events, and one day I said to him,

0:38:390:38:43

"Brendan, I'm going to win the Great North Run one day.

0:38:430:38:47

"I'm going to cross that bridge, be in the lead."

0:38:470:38:50

And he's like, "OK, I look forward to that day," and ever since then,

0:38:500:38:53

you know, I turned up,

0:38:530:38:55

and I've got a hat trick now, Shearer-style.

0:38:550:38:58

I wasn't aware of what he did, and then all of a sudden,

0:38:580:39:01

my phone went berserk. He did the one-armed celebration.

0:39:010:39:05

He got a great reaction from the North-East public.

0:39:050:39:08

I'm not going to pretend that everything Brendan does

0:39:080:39:11

is altruistic in the sense that, you know,

0:39:110:39:13

"I want to do something for the community."

0:39:130:39:15

He's a businessman, you know, and he's a very,

0:39:150:39:17

very good businessman, but there's nothing wrong with that,

0:39:170:39:20

because the result is something that the North-East of England

0:39:200:39:22

is incredibly proud of,

0:39:220:39:24

and year on year has grown into an event

0:39:240:39:29

that is renowned around the world, and that is something which I think

0:39:290:39:32

even Brendan probably didn't see in those early days.

0:39:320:39:36

It was one of the most popular events that I did in my career.

0:39:360:39:39

It was such fun. A moving event.

0:39:390:39:42

-So many wonderful human interest stories.

-It's huge.

0:39:420:39:46

It's the most successful half-marathon,

0:39:460:39:48

not just here in the UK, but in the world, and that really has come

0:39:480:39:51

from that single man's enthusiasm and his desires for his community.

0:39:510:39:56

I'm really proud to say that I know that man.

0:39:560:39:58

I'm most proud of the fact that it will be here in 50 years' time.

0:39:580:40:02

-That's...

-That's real legacy.

0:40:020:40:04

In an area, historically, with some quite deep-seated, you know,

0:40:060:40:10

challenges - economic, social, certainly health - I think Brendan

0:40:100:40:14

has made a seismic contribution to the health and fitness agenda,

0:40:140:40:19

and I think if you pressed him on that,

0:40:190:40:20

he'd probably tell you he's prouder of that than anything

0:40:200:40:23

he did in winning Commonwealth or European titles.

0:40:230:40:27

It really is the greatest

0:40:270:40:28

half-marathon in the world, isn't it?

0:40:280:40:29

Apparently.

0:40:290:40:31

I was so sad when Brendan phoned me to say that he was retiring

0:40:330:40:37

from the commentary box, because it just won't be the same without him.

0:40:370:40:41

Brendan's told me about four times he's retiring.

0:40:410:40:44

In 2012, we stood up, quite emotional, to be fair,

0:40:440:40:48

after Mo had won the 5,000m, and he said, "This is it for me.

0:40:480:40:53

"This is... It cannot get any better than this."

0:40:530:40:55

-I would do the Mobot, Mo, but...

-MO:

-Can you do the Mobot now?

0:40:550:40:58

-SUE:

-Go on, Brendan.

-I'm not flexible enough.

0:40:580:41:00

-How do you do it?

-Come on, Brendan.

0:41:000:41:01

I think he had a bit of a rethink, quite naturally,

0:41:030:41:05

and he's thinking, "Hang on. Mo Farah?

0:41:050:41:07

"I'm going to see more of Mo Farah." We all want to see more of Mo Farah.

0:41:070:41:10

I wanted to commentate with Brendan on Mo Farah,

0:41:100:41:13

and, thankfully, we've had a few more years of that.

0:41:130:41:16

-COMMENTARY:

-He's a one-man world superpower. It's gold for Farah!

0:41:160:41:22

-For me, that was the best ever.

-That was the best ever.

0:41:230:41:25

The best ever, his last ever 10,000m in a championship

0:41:250:41:30

in his favourite stadium and, Steve,

0:41:300:41:33

there's nowhere in the world you would rather be tonight.

0:41:330:41:36

It's been brilliant, for me, anyway, in the last 20 years or so

0:41:380:41:40

and all of the time before and thank you

0:41:400:41:42

for all of your wonderful moments.

0:41:420:41:44

Thank you for being here with me and we'll be sad to see you go.

0:41:440:41:47

We'll miss you incredibly.

0:41:470:41:49

Brendan, that's definitely it, is it,

0:41:490:41:51

when that microphone goes down tonight?

0:41:510:41:53

Well, I tell you what, I'm enjoying this little bit so who knows?

0:41:530:41:56

Frank Sinatra had plenty of comebacks, didn't he?

0:41:560:41:59

I sometimes jokingly raise the topic with him.

0:42:020:42:06

"What are you going to do when you retire?"

0:42:060:42:09

I don't know any hobbies.

0:42:090:42:10

He isn't going to go gardening, he's not going to do DIY,

0:42:100:42:12

and he sure as hell isn't...

0:42:120:42:15

Driving. He isn't going on driving holidays.

0:42:150:42:17

Oh, his driving!

0:42:170:42:19

-It's appalling, isn't it?

-Mm. Mm.

0:42:190:42:21

We were working together at Gateshead Council,

0:42:210:42:23

and he went home one winter's evening in this VW Beetle,

0:42:230:42:25

and it was snowing like hell, driving through Low Fell,

0:42:250:42:29

and not only did he hit a pedestrian in the snow,

0:42:290:42:33

but he hit a pedestrian on a zebra crossing.

0:42:330:42:36

And this bloke bounced off the front of the car,

0:42:360:42:39

landed on the road, and Bren jumps out the car, goes round.

0:42:390:42:42

The guy's lying there in the snow, and he recognises Bren.

0:42:420:42:46

This is at the peak of his fame, breaking world records.

0:42:460:42:49

And he says, "Hello, Bren. Can I have your autograph?"

0:42:490:42:53

I think he'll miss it.

0:42:550:42:56

I think we'll miss him more, but I'm hoping,

0:42:560:42:59

and I believe, that he will still be heavily involved in athletics,

0:42:590:43:03

certainly in this country,

0:43:030:43:04

and we'll still see him at a lot of the big events.

0:43:040:43:06

He's loved in the sport,

0:43:060:43:08

so we certainly don't want to lose that kind of insight.

0:43:080:43:11

He's a very important conscience for the sport as well.

0:43:110:43:15

He's prepared to say things that others won't say.

0:43:150:43:19

He's a lovely man, and I'm going to miss his commentary,

0:43:190:43:22

but I'm always going to value him as a great mate.

0:43:220:43:25

He's somebody who, even if the young people never saw him run,

0:43:250:43:29

they know who Brendan is, you know?

0:43:290:43:30

He's that man off the telly or he's the man who organises

0:43:300:43:33

the Great North Run,

0:43:330:43:34

he's somebody who sort of permeates North-East culture and tradition,

0:43:340:43:38

and if you said to anybody walking down the street in Newcastle

0:43:380:43:41

or Sunderland or Middlesbrough or Alnwick or Hexham or wherever,

0:43:410:43:45

"Name me three famous North East people,"

0:43:450:43:48

I'd be gobsmacked if his name doesn't come up in there.

0:43:480:43:51

-You're still in love with the sport?

-Oh, I love it.

0:43:560:43:58

It's been my life.

0:43:580:44:00

It's in our DNA.

0:44:000:44:02

Now he comes home to take the gold medal.

0:44:020:44:05

It was my hobby.

0:44:050:44:07

The world record smashed -

0:44:070:44:09

a present to Gateshead.

0:44:090:44:12

It wasn't for fame and riches.

0:44:120:44:14

The North East's a proud area.

0:44:140:44:15

Brendan Foster's done us well.

0:44:150:44:18

It's been a pleasure.

0:44:190:44:20

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