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There's something wonderful about a horse, | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
I just can't explain it to you. | 0:00:04 | 0:00:06 | |
The makings of a good racehorse combines courage, | 0:00:08 | 0:00:11 | |
a bit of stamina and speed. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:14 | |
Well, there must be something very special, | 0:00:14 | 0:00:16 | |
because there's nearly 7,000 point-to-point horses in Ireland. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:20 | |
It's a family thing, from everybody right down. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:23 | |
And once it's in your blood, it never goes out of it. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:27 | |
It's an amazing partnership when it all comes together. | 0:00:27 | 0:00:30 | |
You have the equine end of it and the human end of it, | 0:00:30 | 0:00:33 | |
and it's amazing the way the pair of them seem to combine. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:36 | |
Five winners at the last Cheltenham meeting came from the point-to-point circuit. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:40 | |
The danger end of it, you never think of it. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:45 | |
I've broken my ribs, wrist, fibula, tibia... | 0:00:45 | 0:00:47 | |
Sure, you bounce back, it's a love of the sport, | 0:00:47 | 0:00:50 | |
and the love of going fast will get you back in the saddle as soon as you can. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:54 | |
The dream of winning and the dream of breeding a winner, | 0:00:54 | 0:00:56 | |
that keeps everybody in the business. | 0:00:56 | 0:00:58 | |
My father took me to my first point to point, | 0:01:20 | 0:01:23 | |
it was 1948 I think, and I was hooked from then on. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:28 | |
We hadn't any horses except the working horses, | 0:01:28 | 0:01:31 | |
I was a farmer's daughter, | 0:01:31 | 0:01:33 | |
and this spectacle of horses racing was absolutely amazing. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:37 | |
Point to pointing really was the hunting people having a day's fun. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:50 | |
How they started was, | 0:01:50 | 0:01:51 | |
two chaps used to... One said to the other, | 0:01:51 | 0:01:54 | |
"My horse is faster than yours," and then it was put to the test. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:58 | |
People just got on their hunters and hunted them round and raced them, | 0:02:01 | 0:02:06 | |
and then gradually, people got better horses and faster horses. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:11 | |
In those days, they jumped mostly over natural fences, | 0:02:14 | 0:02:17 | |
it was a cross country. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:18 | |
They would have trimmed or helped them a bit. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:21 | |
There was a lot of gorse and everything else, or firs, | 0:02:21 | 0:02:24 | |
and they would have jumped over open ditches, or sheughs. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:27 | |
It was like a big fair, a big race meeting. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:33 | |
It was EVERYBODY who went to a point to point. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:37 | |
All of Donegal, bits of Monaghan, Cavan, all those people all came up, | 0:02:39 | 0:02:43 | |
that was like their Grand National, their Gold Cup Day at Cheltenham. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:48 | |
The large tent was always put up for the farmers to have tea, | 0:02:52 | 0:02:56 | |
they were entertained, that was one way of entertaining the farmers and their wives, | 0:02:56 | 0:03:00 | |
thanking them for going over the land. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:02 | |
It takes an amount of volunteers to run a point to point, | 0:03:07 | 0:03:11 | |
especially ON the race day. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:13 | |
Hello, good to see you. Good to see you. Oh, my. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:18 | |
Can you bring a tractor for the ice-cream man? He's stuck. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:25 | |
'There's a clerk of scales, there's weigh-ins, | 0:03:40 | 0:03:45 | |
'there's fence judges.' | 0:03:45 | 0:03:47 | |
Don't run in to the middle of a situation. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:50 | |
If there's a faller or a rider badly injured, let everything by first, don't run to the middle. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:54 | |
If we're closing off, put the disc in the fence facing the horses. | 0:03:54 | 0:04:00 | |
You have your bars, | 0:04:00 | 0:04:02 | |
where I have a port on a cold day. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:05 | |
Two hot port. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:06 | |
'You have to have your ambulances, doctors, vets and fence stewards, | 0:04:10 | 0:04:15 | |
'everybody in place.' | 0:04:15 | 0:04:17 | |
She comes through on the radio | 0:04:17 | 0:04:19 | |
to say a doctor's needed immediately. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:22 | |
'They're all there free, gratis, and they're great.' | 0:04:22 | 0:04:25 | |
I'm covering doctor at the meeting today. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
Every point-to-point meeting has to have two doctors | 0:04:28 | 0:04:31 | |
as well as a paramedic for safety purposes. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:33 | |
You're basically there to check riders after they have a fall | 0:04:33 | 0:04:36 | |
to make sure they're safe. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:38 | |
Because in most cases, guys get up and walk away | 0:04:38 | 0:04:40 | |
because they don't want to miss races, they're made of iron. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:44 | |
In most cases, they're easy to treat now. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:47 | |
I'm also riding in the ladies' race, so...it'll be busy! | 0:04:47 | 0:04:50 | |
We get local farmers, local shopkeepers, they look forward to the day. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:56 | |
The only thing, we've an autumn season now as well as a spring season, | 0:04:56 | 0:05:00 | |
so they have TWO days out now in the year instead of just the one. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
But the local people in the local area do come to the point to point. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:08 | |
From Ballymena, to Banbridge, to Newry, to wherever they are, | 0:05:08 | 0:05:13 | |
to Downpatrick... | 0:05:13 | 0:05:15 | |
The fact that we go to different parts of the country every weekend | 0:05:15 | 0:05:19 | |
and we have a new audience every weekend, | 0:05:19 | 0:05:22 | |
it keeps it alive and it keeps it good. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:24 | |
You bring your box, a little bit of drink, sandwiches, champagne, caviar, salmon. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:35 | |
It's for everyone, townie and country. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:38 | |
People that wouldn't have even seen a horse in the stable, | 0:05:38 | 0:05:41 | |
but once they see it once, they want to come back. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:46 | |
I think it's in your blood. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:48 | |
Both my grandparents rode and my grandfather point to pointed. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:52 | |
Point to point is the springboard for racing. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:56 | |
They go from point to points, they go into the novice, | 0:05:56 | 0:06:00 | |
there's maiden races, then they go into open races, | 0:06:00 | 0:06:04 | |
which qualifies them to go to hunt chases | 0:06:04 | 0:06:06 | |
which are held on the racecourse. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:07 | |
From hunt chases, they can go to steeplechases. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:11 | |
They can be running here today and six months to a year, | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
18 months down the line, | 0:06:14 | 0:06:16 | |
they can run in the English or Irish Grand National. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:19 | |
On the point to point course here behind me a few years ago | 0:06:19 | 0:06:24 | |
Bindaree won his maiden and went on to Liverpool to win a Grand National. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:28 | |
It's nice to see a horse, a nice young horse come out | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
that you've trained and he jumps well, and he wins well. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:39 | |
It means you've done your job. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:41 | |
People will say, it's only a rich man's sport. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:45 | |
There's men with one horse that get the same enjoyment as if you have five in the stable. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:49 | |
But a lot, a lot of people love to train their own, exercise it, | 0:06:49 | 0:06:53 | |
rear it, ride it, and win on it if they can. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:57 | |
There's not too many people now riding point to points just for the fun of it. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:03 | |
Whereas, years ago, they might have had a horse | 0:07:03 | 0:07:06 | |
that they could have had a wee spin round on and enjoyed themselves. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:09 | |
But there's not as many people doing that now, you know? | 0:07:09 | 0:07:13 | |
It's all sort of serious. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:16 | |
Money doesn't buy you a racehorse. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:20 | |
There's been many a one paid a load of money and they're no good. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:24 | |
The wee man down the road could have spent a few hundred and beat everybody. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:30 | |
You don't know, nobody knows. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:35 | |
Yes, you like confirmation on how they go well, | 0:07:35 | 0:07:38 | |
and, yeah, that looks good. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:41 | |
But nobody knows where the engine is. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:43 | |
I think it's a disease with the bookies, too. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:52 | |
A lot of them are, like us all, getting on past their sell by date, | 0:07:52 | 0:07:57 | |
but they still come in the freezing cold. | 0:07:57 | 0:07:59 | |
They're absolute gentlemen, they're absolute gentlemen, | 0:07:59 | 0:08:02 | |
and they've tried in every way to support the point to points. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:06 | |
They give us so much for a pitch and they pay their way in. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:11 | |
They love the sport and the craic. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:16 | |
I'm sure they love the money as well! | 0:08:16 | 0:08:20 | |
Cold today, isn't it? | 0:08:21 | 0:08:23 | |
It's not good for this job, really, is it? | 0:08:23 | 0:08:26 | |
'I love the weigh room, there's nothing like it. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:28 | |
'You get in and it's an escape from the outside. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:32 | |
'And if you're having a bad day, | 0:08:32 | 0:08:33 | |
'the rest of the lads let you know about it. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:36 | |
'There's no quarter given. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:38 | |
'In the racing world, | 0:08:38 | 0:08:40 | |
'the different sets of colours will be an owner's identity. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:43 | |
'Frequent race goers then would know that such and such colours | 0:08:43 | 0:08:47 | |
'would maybe belong to that prominent owner, | 0:08:47 | 0:08:50 | |
'because every horse I ride usually has a different owner. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:53 | |
'But things can get a bit hectic, | 0:08:53 | 0:08:54 | |
'you have to keep looking at your race card. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:57 | |
'It wouldn't be the first time | 0:08:57 | 0:08:58 | |
'I maybe walked out with the wrong set on me!' | 0:08:58 | 0:09:02 | |
The young fellas are the ones you have to try and school. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:08 | |
They're like joyriders, you have to control them a wee bit now and again. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:14 | |
Once they get a knock or two and they're lying at the back of a fence | 0:09:14 | 0:09:18 | |
with their heels up, | 0:09:18 | 0:09:19 | |
they'll certainly listen then to what you've told them. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:23 | |
I suppose whenever you're used to it, | 0:09:23 | 0:09:25 | |
we've been going racing since we were children, | 0:09:25 | 0:09:28 | |
and you see people falling and getting up again. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:30 | |
I've had a few falls but, thankfully, touch wood, no injuries. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:37 | |
-I've broken my collarbone. -Three times. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:39 | |
Three times, but that's minor compared to it. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:43 | |
God, I've broken numerous types of bones, you know. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:50 | |
I've broken my ribs, my wrist... | 0:09:50 | 0:09:54 | |
my fibula, tibia, | 0:09:54 | 0:09:56 | |
my shin bone. I was going to say my cannon bone there, | 0:09:56 | 0:09:59 | |
but that's a part of a horse, isn't it? | 0:09:59 | 0:10:01 | |
But, yeah, my shin bone, actually. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:03 | |
I've torn quite a few ligaments and muscles. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:08 | |
You watch footballers and they can't wait to hit the ground. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:12 | |
Our guys, once they hit the ground, they're up. They run away | 0:10:12 | 0:10:15 | |
from the ambulance in case they get stood down for the next race. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:18 | |
Catch him! Catch him! | 0:10:18 | 0:10:21 | |
I think footballers should take a leaf out of their book. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:25 | |
Sure, you bounce back, you know. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:30 | |
It's a love of the sport and going fast that gets you back in the saddle as soon as you can, you know? | 0:10:30 | 0:10:35 | |
-TERENCE: -Just walk in.... | 0:10:35 | 0:10:37 | |
'People don't believe you're nervous. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:39 | |
'Yes, I'm nervous. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:41 | |
'I have been known to maybe say an odd word,' | 0:10:41 | 0:10:43 | |
maybe a wee bleep is required. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:45 | |
Asked you what the hell you're doing. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:47 | |
"It's today we're starting, not tomorrow." | 0:10:47 | 0:10:50 | |
But I don't really mean it that way. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:52 | |
'People think I'm a wee bit crabbit. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:54 | |
'In fact they think I'm thran too, but that's another story.' | 0:10:54 | 0:10:57 | |
Hold on! You're not going anywhere! Stay there. | 0:10:57 | 0:11:00 | |
Hey! | 0:11:00 | 0:11:02 | |
Plenty of time, come on. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:05 | |
'Once the race goes, you don't get a time even to go to the wee house, | 0:11:05 | 0:11:08 | |
'there's just no time for anything.' | 0:11:08 | 0:11:10 | |
They're not hanging about. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:12 | |
When you go down to the start you think, "Why am I doing this?" | 0:11:15 | 0:11:18 | |
You head into the first fence and you get over it. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:21 | |
Something else takes over | 0:11:21 | 0:11:22 | |
and it's the most amazing feeling in the world. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:25 | |
You wouldn't believe the pressure your heart and lungs come under, | 0:11:29 | 0:11:32 | |
albeit the horse is doing the work for you. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:35 | |
But you have to keep the whole thing motivated | 0:11:35 | 0:11:38 | |
and just keep it in a forward motion. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:41 | |
To ride a good horse for anybody is to sit in a good car, | 0:11:46 | 0:11:49 | |
as soon as you get on it, you can see a nice dashboard, you've plenty of room around you, | 0:11:49 | 0:11:53 | |
you put the foot down and you've got a little bit left, | 0:11:53 | 0:11:56 | |
you can keep asking a fast car and it'll keep performing | 0:11:56 | 0:11:59 | |
that's the same as a good racehorse. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:01 | |
There's no such thing as a fast race when you're on a good racehorse, | 0:12:02 | 0:12:06 | |
everything's in slow motion. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:08 | |
The buzz comes from the survival aspect of it. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:16 | |
You've jumped 15 fences, | 0:12:16 | 0:12:18 | |
you're on a green horse, he doesn't know a whole lot | 0:12:18 | 0:12:22 | |
and you have to get from A to B in the fastest possible time, | 0:12:22 | 0:12:26 | |
and that to me is just a real kick, | 0:12:26 | 0:12:27 | |
especially whenever it all works out. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:30 | |
There's no feeling like it. I think the adrenaline, or whatever, | 0:12:31 | 0:12:35 | |
it's just an amazing thrill, and when you win, it's just... | 0:12:35 | 0:12:38 | |
I've not had a greater feeling, it's just amazing, | 0:12:38 | 0:12:41 | |
it's like a complete high. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:42 | |
24 now, so I am. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:11 | |
As long as I stay fit and healthy, | 0:13:11 | 0:13:12 | |
and hopefully keep in one piece, | 0:13:12 | 0:13:15 | |
God, yeah, I would love to keep riding winners | 0:13:15 | 0:13:17 | |
as often and as many as I possibly could. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:19 | |
-TERENCE: -There was a rich man in the past. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:24 | |
He said, there's only two kinds of people keep horses - | 0:13:24 | 0:13:28 | |
millionaires and fools. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:31 | |
And I can assure you, there's very few millionaires. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:34 | |
We might be fools, but we love what we're doing. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:39 | |
I think the point to point will always continue | 0:13:41 | 0:13:44 | |
because the people that are following it won't let them go away. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:48 | |
They'll always want to have, | 0:13:48 | 0:13:50 | |
or they'll try and run, point to points. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:53 | |
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