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Wales - a rugby nation,

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where every town and every village gets behind its local team.

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Come on, Bethesda! Come on, Bethesda lads!

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In Llanelli, top-class rugby has been played for 140 years.

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And it inspires a whole region.

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We've got boys out on this field that are amongst

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the best in the world at what they do.

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But these days, it's more than a game. It's a business.

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And it's a business under threat.

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What keeps me awake at night is paying the wages next month.

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It's a battle to keep the big players here in Wales...

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I'll say a W - by five.

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..and ensure a precious rugby tradition survives.

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Unless something changes, I think our regions will be gone.

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This is the inside story of 12 months of triumph, tension,

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-Get out.

-..turmoil...

-Everybody's at each other's throats..

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-And pride in the Scarlet jersey.

-Yeah. A bit emotional, I guess, innit?

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Stand by for a year with the Scarlets.

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The Scarlets' head coach lifts the Heineken Cup.

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To every coach, every player, every supporter, it's a bit of a Holy Grail, really.

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Unfortunately, this is just the tournament press launch.

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No Welsh region has ever won the European Cup.

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In the year that we've been filming up close and personal

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with Simon Easterby and his Scarlets stars,

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the whole future of the tournament has been under threat.

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French and English clubs have served notice that they're going to

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pull out and that would be a massive blow for the Scarlets' players.

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It is a great competition

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and, you know, we want to be part of those big-game atmospheres.

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The supporters, too, would miss the passion of French visitors...

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# ..the Scarlets till I die... #

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..and the cross-border rivalry with English clubs.

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# ..the Scarlets till I die... #

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It's just one of the issues fuelling a rugby civil war.

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And it's not just the fans who want it sorted out quickly.

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It's worried me and, you know, it's something that's stressed me out quite a bit.

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I can't begin to understand how a group of adults manage to

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sit in a room trying to be something very significant

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and important for a whole day and just agree to have another meeting.

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That's not like any business I've ever been part of.

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So in Welsh rugby's long-running saga, will it be war - or peace?

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As a line!

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-Late summer 2013.

-Press-ups, lads.

-The new season dawns.

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Jack-squats - the next one for us.

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-And the Scarlets players need to shape up.

-Early morning not too bad.

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Thought it would be about four o'clock, but six is not too bad.

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There is a wake-up call, too, for the Scarlets board.

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In terms of our season memberships, this has been a tough sell this year.

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We are currently 528 memberships behind 12-13

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and in terms of revenue, we're £66K behind where we were last year.

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Sponsorship, we are about £130K to go to hit the budget.

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In 2012, a report from consultants PWC was highly critical

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of the way the regions have been run, but today's

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losses are nothing like as great as they were

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when the Scarlets were being kept afloat by wealthy backers.

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Glan Wise joined the board believing that cheques

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for a few thousand pounds would be enough to keep the business going.

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When I went in, I thought, well, I'll put 20,000 in or something.

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Then it went on and it was a million, then it was two million,

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-now suddenly it's

-BLEEP

-four million, you know. But...

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But, er, we laugh about it but it's something that hurts the bank balance, or the wife

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finds out you've just thrown another million down on the Scarlets.

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So we're just pumping in. It wasn't run right.

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Let's be honest about it, people put their hands up.

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But it's changed, right?

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And now all of a sudden, it's changed again as far as I can see.

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There is light at the end of the tunnel.

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For the players,

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the day at this military boot camp at RAF St Athan has only just begun.

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Superb efforts from everyone. Absolutely great efforts.

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All worked your absolute socks off, fellows.

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All we're going to do now is get a bit of phys, OK,

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to wake you up before you go back and have breakfast.

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Back in what they call the War Room at Parc y Scarlets,

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the board welcomes a new recruit.

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I'd like to formally propose that Robin's accepted onto the board.

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And he's been brought in to help the Scarlets conquer the world.

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So last year, Scarlets were shown in some 45 to 50 countries.

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These are the games that we go to watch.

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And some 7,000 broadcast hours around the world.

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And you can ascribe a value to that using sort of marketing techniques.

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And without actually doing any promotion or any extra work,

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um, there's a 4 million price tag on that.

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We're doing a great job of attracting good support

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and good sponsorship locally

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but what we've never done as the Scarlets is look global.

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The imagery is massive.

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And we look at it and think, cor, that's powerful.

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But that's real, it's tangible, it's palpable

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and if you add that to the history of the Scarlets,

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Scarlets is an incredibly powerful brand.

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Exploiting that brand means upping their marketing game.

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The Scarlets have brought in a firm of specialists to advise them.

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When we started the heritage projects...

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Today they're hearing about plans for the Heritage Trail,

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an interactive pathway at Parc y Scarlets which will display these treasures

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and excite visitors with the whole history of rugby in Llanelli.

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A lot of the smaller clubs actually sort of gave their best

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-players to form the Llanelli teams, so that's why they were such a strong team from the beginning.

-Ah!

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So on and off the pitch,

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the Scarlets' brand of rugby is about to be put to the test.

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For the players, there's an early season chance for revenge.

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Treviso nearly scuppered the Scarlets' play-off hopes last year.

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Wahay!

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Hey, what a beautiful try!

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Watching in hospitality is Peter Rees,

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the oldest living Llanelli international.

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He's called on Chief Executive Mark Davies to sort out a graphics problem for him.

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That bit of the programme is the bit that everybody uses, which is

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who's playing, and actually,

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it was very artistic - it was white writing on a red background.

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Well, he couldn't read it. I couldn't read it, either.

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And he's 87!

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-Very good, Mark bach! Good boy!

-Thank you, Peter.

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After a heavy defeat by Leinster,

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putting the Italians to the sword pleases the crowd.

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But winning is not everyone's priority.

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I don't know what the score is, actually.

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They are dropping the ball all the time, scrum after scrum after scrum.

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This time of year, there's so little damage that we can just target those areas.

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In the winter now, when the weather gets worse and the scrums cause more damage,

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that's when the comments really come.

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I'd still rather grass, though. I love my grass.

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It's much better to play on grass.

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You don't want to play on plastic, do you?

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And it put me out of a job, so I don't like it!

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Centre Jonathan Davies is ready to return to action after

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a storming summer with the Lions in Australia.

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With less than 12 months to run on his Scarlets contract,

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he's certain to be targeted by those rich French and English clubs.

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He's hungry for more of the big-time.

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The boys love playing in front of massive crowds.

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I think...that's one of the things you play rugby, like.

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Massive atmosphere, you know, a sense of theatre.

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September 30th, with the launch of the European Cup,

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the curtain is up again on the big stage.

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Heineken weekends are the big weekends.

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I think everyone looks forward to them.

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The team gets to showcase their skills against the rest of Europe.

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It's television money that drives the European game.

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Players like Jonathan have to pay their dues.

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-Have you not got a game against the Saracens?

-No. No, I don't think so.

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Even if some of the marketing types aren't quite sure who is on board.

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-Do you know who are in your group?

-Yeah.

-Cos I don't.

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Scarlets v Racing Metro.

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French teams with massive worldwide companies

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and the London teams with massive companies there, you know.

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The regions do have to work very hard to get as much

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sponsorship as they can.

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It's down to players as well to make sure that we get results

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and get companies that want to be involved with the Scarlets.

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Beautiful! And you're done. One take.

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Obviously everybody loves the Heineken Cup.

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It's had a fantastic history, particularly Scarlets.

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Massive history.

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Means so much to our supporters and players, so the thought

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of losing that is really hard for a lot of people to understand.

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Mesdames, messieurs. Bienvenue a Cardiff. Bore da. Croeso i Gaerdydd.

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English clubs are unhappy with the qualification rules

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and the share of the money they are getting, so Roger Lewis

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is keen to signal that the Welsh Rugby Union is listening.

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I passionately and honestly believe this is the next Heineken Cup final.

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And there will be another one from a WRU perspective

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where the four regions were united.

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We believe in meritocracy through qualification, through the rabble.

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We believe in a fair distribution of monies.

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And that's why we believe that common sense will prevail

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and this competition will continue.

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As a player, I think I was fortunate enough to play in some really

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good Scarlet teams and we progressed, er,

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to all but a final in terms of getting to three semifinals,

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two quarterfinals.

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A lot of highs and a few lows along the way, unfortunately,

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but that's the beauty of the competition.

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For every coach, every player, every supporter over the last 15,

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16 years, whatever it's been going for,

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it's a bit of a Holy Grail, really.

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But the Heineken Cup is only part of what is at stake now.

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The agreement which binds the regions of the WRU is up for renewal.

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It's what triggers the funding the Scarlets get from the union

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and the Scarlets have to sign to extend it by the end of December.

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Roger Lewis has been clear.

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Same again, Josh.

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If the Scarlets don't sign up,

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they won't get to represent Wales in Europe.

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And they wouldn't get funding and support from the WRU.

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In effect, there would be no region.

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As the crisis continues,

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Antonia is getting regular briefings from Scarlet's Chief Executive Mark Davies

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about the plan for next season.

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I've had two conversations this week with sponsors

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that would like to commit for 14-15,

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but can't because they don't know what they are committing to.

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We don't know what on earth we've got past the end of the season,

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we don't know what games we are playing in Europe or not.

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Can't forecast season-ticket revenue, can't forecast match day revenue,

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and actually we can't be entirely sure whether it is the pro 12

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or pro 10, so we can't forecast that one either.

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With so little certainty, Mark feels unable to renew the WRU agreement.

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Do you think they can see that we actually can't function as a business?

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It is absolutely clear. How on earth could you sign something

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when you don't know what your fixtures list is going to be?

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You're hardly going to sign a contract that you don't know the conditions of.

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Right.

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# If looks could kill they probably will

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# In games without frontiers... #

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Mid-October. For the fans, Europe beckons maybe for the last time.

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Let's beat them.

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First up, a daunting trip to London.

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Away wins in the Heineken Cup are rare.

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But the Harlequins are in for a shock.

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Game, set and match to the Scarlets.

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By December, some of Welsh rugby's biggest names

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are at the point of signing for French and English clubs.

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The regions are due to meet the WRU. The media are calling it D-day.

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Mark has a pre-meeting with the other regions

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but he's not hopeful about the main talks.

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I'm sure we will have a constructive meeting with the regions

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first and foremost, which is what we're doing now.

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That will be constructive.

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Where we go in the meeting after that,

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I don't have any expectation, because I've learnt over

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a period of a couple of years now that that's a sensible place to be.

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The regions are working on a Plan B, breaking away from the WRU

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to join the English league, the Aviva Premiership.

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Mark leaves the discussion with his regional colleagues

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just as the WRU arrive.

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Opting to join the English clubs would be lucrative

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but it's a long shot.

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I'm just off to do some actual constructive work, so...

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The option probably wouldn't be sanctioned by the game's governing bodies.

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It's difficult to say if we've really,

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really got a true option at the moment...

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but it's our responsibility to work at it and it is our responsibility to

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try to investigate every single angle that is possible to us to survive.

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We are literally at that point.

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And not just to survive for today but to survive for five years' time

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and ten years' time when the French

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and English clubs will be stronger from their commercial platforms.

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That's fact.

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So it's no good us looking at just today,

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we've got tomorrow's job to sort as well.

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Negotiations go on into the evening,

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par for the course for the Scarlets' chairman.

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Oh, I don't mind. I've been in tough meetings most of my life.

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I started in the steel industry in 1979, just after the big strike,

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and that's a tough old business so, yeah.

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But D-day ends without accord.

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The deadline to sign the agreement is just days away.

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The WRU's concern about the exodus of players to England

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and France has now become critical.

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Mid-December.

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The Welsh regions want to join English clubs in a new

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European competition with more money from a new broadcaster.

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But Luke has other things on his mind.

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It's quite sad, really. I'm 25, single, living on my own,

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and in my phone there is just photos of grass.

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With a big game in the offing, the sequence of snaps helps Luke

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track how the pitch has stood up to wear and tear since the autumn.

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Picture after picture of grass.

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Bless.

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Don't tell anybody.

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It's just a photo of grass to most people but, to me,

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it paints 1,000 words. HE CHUCKLES

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From late October, early November, up until about February,

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this side of the pitch isn't covered in shade.

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So without sunlight the grass doesn't grow.

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That's why I'm chasing everyone off the pitch all the time,

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trying to move them over that side.

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Looking at me stupid and thinking I'm just being really pedantic

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and awkward but I'm not. There is a reason behind it.

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That's because once it's damaged, once it's gone, it's gone.

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# It's a knockout.

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# If looks could kill they probably will

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# In games without frontiers War without tears... #

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The French have invaded Llanelli

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and that throws up some security issues.

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We've got everything ready.

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Passes for everybody, tickets for everybody, food order for everybody,

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correct pass in the right area, so security should be happy with me.

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That's the deal we've got with Stewart from Head Of Security.

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If I have a good game, he buys me a cupcake,

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otherwise I'm going to buy the cupcakes.

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So fingers crossed, no cupcakes.

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The French invaders have already captured one of the Scarlets' big guns.

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Clermont Auvergne have signed Jonathan Davies for next season.

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It points up a huge disparity in funding.

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Big difference when you compare a 30 million team to a 3 million team.

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And it's the big spenders who take the spoils of battle.

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For the Scarlets' European Cup hopes, it's a knockout.

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But, in rugby, fans always seem happy to fraternise with the enemy.

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With Christmas coming, the game's governing bodies have mounted

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one more attempt to save their version of the European Cup.

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That was Nigel, who's in another meeting trying to understand

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what, if anything, happened in the union's meeting on Friday,

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which, again, the simple answer is nothing

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so the mediators flew in all the way from Canada, spend a whole day

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and couldn't agree anything beyond having another meeting in January.

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So once again we are all fiddling while Rome burns...

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I can't actually begin to understand how a group of adults managed

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to sit in a room trying to agree something very significant

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and important for a whole day and just agreed to have another meeting.

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That's not like any business I've ever been part of

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but that's where we're at,

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so we don't appear to be any further forward.

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Still nothing defined, another month on and another month to go

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apparently because there may be a meeting sometime in January.

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Absolutely staggering. But there we are, another good Sunday.

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Happy Christmas.

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Nigel arrives back to brief the Supporters' Trust.

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He's been meeting the English Aviva clubs.

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Joining them could help the Scarlets bridge the gulf with the French Top 14.

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One of the choices, potentially, is to join one of the leagues

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which has at least got the potential to rival the Top 14 in terms of commercial value.

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There is no secret that that could potentially be the Aviva.

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Is that probable? I'd honestly have to answer today, maybe not.

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Could it happen? Possibly.

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The real game-changer in all this has been the French market.

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The French TV deal for the Top 14

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is likely to be well over 65 million euros next year.

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I think they're on 30 at the moment.

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That one league with those 14 clubs

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is generating more than the entire turnover of the WRU.

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Boxing Day. The Scarlets are playing regional rivals the Ospreys.

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Few of the capacity crowd seem fazed by the prospect of turning

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their backs on the agreement with the WRU to join

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the English Aviva Premiership instead.

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This is what regional rugby is all about

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and this is what big games are about. And you have big games in the Aviva.

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We want more days like this with good crowds

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and I think the best place for that is in the Aviva.

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There is a lot of politics going on and people have lost sight of the game.

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It's despicable. They need to sort it out.

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It's not fair on the regions, it's not fair on the fans who turn up every week.

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Before kick-off, something Parc y Scarlets has never seen before.

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It's just a protest before the game by the fans.

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Joint protest by Osprey and Scarlet fans, showing that we want

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to support the region's cause in the battle that's going on at present.

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This is for all of us, guys.

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What this means to you guys in here, to the people who work here

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day in, day out, the people who come and watch you play here,

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if you back down 1cm,

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they've won that little battle.

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-You don't

-BLEEP

-back down today.

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We go after them every single time.

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FANS SING

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What this demonstrates is what it means

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when you've got a fixture with a history and heritage behind it

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and all of the emotion that that creates.

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Go on, Scarlets!

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Scarlets! Scarlets!

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But will the regions be here to play the derby next Christmas?

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Well, I'm not sure there's any guarantee at the moment.

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But 14,000 people in here are hoping that this fixture

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will take place next year, and we've got every intention,

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us Ospreys and Scarlets, that this fixture will take place next year.

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But we've got some way to go still to ensure that, as we stand today.

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-COMMENTATOR:

-That's it, the clock is red!

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The last play.

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There's one score in it.

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The Scarlets need a try.

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The Ospreys just have to get the ball off the park.

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-COMMENTATOR:

-The whole crowd trying to drive them home.

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Everybody living on their nerves.

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# All the stores were closed and shuttered

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Defeat hurts.

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# All the streets were dark and bare

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And especially at home.

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# In our town oh, scarlet ribbons

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# Not one ribbon for her hair... #

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For the Scarlets, little Christmas cheer.

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And by New Year, they could be out in the cold.

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December 31. Deadline day for signing the agreement.

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The union insists it's the best way forward for Welsh rugby.

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At the Cardiff Blues headquarters,

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the region's executives have gathered.

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I don't think it's the way anybody would choose to spend

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New Year's Eve.

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The individual regions have all had a formal board meeting.

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38 of Wales's most successful businesspeople, lawyers,

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former players...

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..absolutely unanimously...

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..confirming that we cannot, er, sign to extend the legal agreement

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that commits us, at one side, to all of our costs.

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But does not in any way shape or form define any of our incomes

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or competitive platforms the other side.

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It's just completely impossible.

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And at the same time,

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we will be confirming that we have got options available to us now that

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allow us to plan positively forward

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and not just negatively cut costs.

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But the turning of the year is a time to look back

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as well as forward.

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The Parc y Scarlets Heritage Trail is close to opening.

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Hopefully, once the trail opens, people will donate more and more

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of these things, because they really are...

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They're treasured pieces, really, in terms of the story of the club.

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Exactly, I mean, even the bandages have got the plastic still on them

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and everything.

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So, really, really special piece of memorabilia here.

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Amongst the items being dusted off for display is a pair of boots

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once worn by a Llanelli hero.

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Barry John. Amazing.

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Another player from those far-off glory days is still

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with the Scarlets.

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Gareth Jenkins coached Wales too, but he's sceptical

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about the WRU's plans to contract players centrally themselves.

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You have to belong somewhere.

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You have to have an identity.

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And as far as I'm concerned, the Scarlets and Llanelli before it

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has had a strong identity, with a brotherhood relationship,

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to make sure that every player is recognised through his success

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and why he's been successful.

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And he's been successful because of the environment that he has

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grown up in, he's belonged to, he's developed in.

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The WRU is adamant that the loss of big names

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is so damaging that they have to act now.

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But it leaves the players uncertain about the whole question

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of central contracts.

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You're asking the wrong man. I'm not likely to be offered one.

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You better speak to one of these couple here.

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The issue is, nobody really knows what it means.

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We'd just be like an asset, asked to go and play rugby

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and I don't think... If you had people who weren't in love with where

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they were, then you wouldn't have what we love about Welsh rugby.

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Everyone down here, we are all,

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first focus, Scarlets players and then if you are

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fortunate to get selected for your country, that's great.

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But to be associated to a club, that's really important, I think.

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The longer it drags out,

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it's obviously going to be very frustrating.

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I think, you know, both parties are working very hard separately

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but not actually coming together and working together.

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I think that's the difficulty at the moment.

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That's Ken's politics degree coming through there. Very diplomatic.

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It's very difficult to make fully informed decisions

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because there's so many things that we don't know, so many uncertainties

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which I've found difficult.

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It's worried me and it's something that has stressed me out

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quite a bit and I wish it hadn't happened this year of all years

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when I was out of contract,

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but it's got to happen to somebody and I just hope that,

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like Rob says, for the best interests of Welsh rugby

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that it gets sorted.

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And it's not just the players who are worried.

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It is quite difficult with everything that's going on between the regions

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and the WRU on the basis that, from January onwards,

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we usually start thinking about renewals of business clubs,

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sponsors, investors.

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On a personal basis, you do think, "What's going to happen to my job?"

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So you do have those concerns.

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January 31, our year where the Scarlets closes,

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the Heritage Trail opens,

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on interactive tablets the whole history of Llanelli rugby.

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What on earth made this little town in West Wales

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such a cauldron of talent across world rugby?

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It's another deadline day.

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Time, say the regions, to conclude matters with the WRU or move ahead

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with their options of breaking away.

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We're still in the position, we can't run our business,

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we can't launch our season tickets, we can't commit to sponsors,

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I can't even order kit.

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If nothing happens today, we're back to

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having to find a resolution by ourselves, our own way.

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The WRU is urging the Scarlets to strike deals with Scott Williams

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and Rhys Priestland.

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Otherwise, the union will offer them

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central contracts, as they have already done with Sam Warburton.

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Something will have to give very soon.

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We've got to start listening to what people want.

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You know, what do the public want? What do the players want?

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What do the coaches want? What do sponsors want?

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And they want week in, week out

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competitive rugby with attractive features.

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We can't sustain the game on six or seven international days a year,

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fantastic as they are.

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We've got to get the product right week in, week out.

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# If I live to be 200

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A precious past.

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# I will never know

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A precarious future.

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As with so much we treasure in life, we don't yet know how it ends.

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# Those lovely scarlet ribbons

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# Scarlet ribbons for her hair... #

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