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Wales - a rugby nation, | 0:00:04 | 0:00:07 | |
where every town and every village gets behind its local team. | 0:00:07 | 0:00:11 | |
Come on, Bethesda! Come on, Bethesda lads! | 0:00:11 | 0:00:15 | |
In Llanelli, top-class rugby has been played for 140 years. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:19 | |
And it inspires a whole region. | 0:00:21 | 0:00:23 | |
We've got boys out on this field that are amongst | 0:00:23 | 0:00:26 | |
the best in the world at what they do. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:28 | |
But these days, it's more than a game. It's a business. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:31 | |
And it's a business under threat. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:34 | |
What keeps me awake at night is paying the wages next month. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:38 | |
It's a battle to keep the big players here in Wales... | 0:00:38 | 0:00:41 | |
I'll say a W - by five. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
..and ensure a precious rugby tradition survives. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:48 | |
Unless something changes, I think our regions will be gone. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:51 | |
This is the inside story of 12 months of triumph, tension, | 0:00:51 | 0:00:56 | |
-Get out. -..turmoil... -Everybody's at each other's throats.. | 0:00:56 | 0:01:00 | |
-And pride in the Scarlet jersey. -Yeah. A bit emotional, I guess, innit? | 0:01:00 | 0:01:04 | |
Stand by for a year with the Scarlets. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:08 | |
The Scarlets' head coach lifts the Heineken Cup. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:16 | |
To every coach, every player, every supporter, it's a bit of a Holy Grail, really. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:21 | |
Unfortunately, this is just the tournament press launch. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:25 | |
No Welsh region has ever won the European Cup. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:28 | |
In the year that we've been filming up close and personal | 0:01:28 | 0:01:30 | |
with Simon Easterby and his Scarlets stars, | 0:01:30 | 0:01:33 | |
the whole future of the tournament has been under threat. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:36 | |
French and English clubs have served notice that they're going to | 0:01:37 | 0:01:40 | |
pull out and that would be a massive blow for the Scarlets' players. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:44 | |
It is a great competition | 0:01:45 | 0:01:46 | |
and, you know, we want to be part of those big-game atmospheres. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:50 | |
The supporters, too, would miss the passion of French visitors... | 0:01:53 | 0:01:56 | |
# ..the Scarlets till I die... # | 0:01:56 | 0:01:58 | |
..and the cross-border rivalry with English clubs. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:01 | |
# ..the Scarlets till I die... # | 0:02:01 | 0:02:03 | |
It's just one of the issues fuelling a rugby civil war. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:08 | |
And it's not just the fans who want it sorted out quickly. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:12 | |
It's worried me and, you know, it's something that's stressed me out quite a bit. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:16 | |
I can't begin to understand how a group of adults manage to | 0:02:16 | 0:02:21 | |
sit in a room trying to be something very significant | 0:02:21 | 0:02:23 | |
and important for a whole day and just agree to have another meeting. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:26 | |
That's not like any business I've ever been part of. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:29 | |
So in Welsh rugby's long-running saga, will it be war - or peace? | 0:02:30 | 0:02:35 | |
As a line! | 0:02:38 | 0:02:39 | |
-Late summer 2013. -Press-ups, lads. -The new season dawns. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:45 | |
Jack-squats - the next one for us. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:48 | |
-And the Scarlets players need to shape up. -Early morning not too bad. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:52 | |
Thought it would be about four o'clock, but six is not too bad. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:55 | |
There is a wake-up call, too, for the Scarlets board. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:58 | |
In terms of our season memberships, this has been a tough sell this year. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:02 | |
We are currently 528 memberships behind 12-13 | 0:03:02 | 0:03:06 | |
and in terms of revenue, we're £66K behind where we were last year. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:10 | |
Sponsorship, we are about £130K to go to hit the budget. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:14 | |
In 2012, a report from consultants PWC was highly critical | 0:03:14 | 0:03:18 | |
of the way the regions have been run, but today's | 0:03:18 | 0:03:22 | |
losses are nothing like as great as they were | 0:03:22 | 0:03:24 | |
when the Scarlets were being kept afloat by wealthy backers. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:27 | |
Glan Wise joined the board believing that cheques | 0:03:27 | 0:03:30 | |
for a few thousand pounds would be enough to keep the business going. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:33 | |
When I went in, I thought, well, I'll put 20,000 in or something. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:36 | |
Then it went on and it was a million, then it was two million, | 0:03:36 | 0:03:39 | |
-now suddenly it's -BLEEP -four million, you know. But... | 0:03:39 | 0:03:43 | |
But, er, we laugh about it but it's something that hurts the bank balance, or the wife | 0:03:43 | 0:03:47 | |
finds out you've just thrown another million down on the Scarlets. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:50 | |
So we're just pumping in. It wasn't run right. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:53 | |
Let's be honest about it, people put their hands up. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:56 | |
But it's changed, right? | 0:03:56 | 0:03:58 | |
And now all of a sudden, it's changed again as far as I can see. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:00 | |
There is light at the end of the tunnel. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:03 | |
For the players, | 0:04:05 | 0:04:06 | |
the day at this military boot camp at RAF St Athan has only just begun. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:12 | |
Superb efforts from everyone. Absolutely great efforts. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:15 | |
All worked your absolute socks off, fellows. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:17 | |
All we're going to do now is get a bit of phys, OK, | 0:04:17 | 0:04:19 | |
to wake you up before you go back and have breakfast. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:22 | |
Back in what they call the War Room at Parc y Scarlets, | 0:04:22 | 0:04:25 | |
the board welcomes a new recruit. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:27 | |
I'd like to formally propose that Robin's accepted onto the board. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:31 | |
And he's been brought in to help the Scarlets conquer the world. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:35 | |
So last year, Scarlets were shown in some 45 to 50 countries. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:40 | |
These are the games that we go to watch. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:44 | |
And some 7,000 broadcast hours around the world. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:49 | |
And you can ascribe a value to that using sort of marketing techniques. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:53 | |
And without actually doing any promotion or any extra work, | 0:04:53 | 0:04:57 | |
um, there's a 4 million price tag on that. | 0:04:57 | 0:05:00 | |
We're doing a great job of attracting good support | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
and good sponsorship locally | 0:05:03 | 0:05:05 | |
but what we've never done as the Scarlets is look global. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:09 | |
The imagery is massive. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:12 | |
And we look at it and think, cor, that's powerful. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:15 | |
But that's real, it's tangible, it's palpable | 0:05:15 | 0:05:18 | |
and if you add that to the history of the Scarlets, | 0:05:18 | 0:05:22 | |
Scarlets is an incredibly powerful brand. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:24 | |
Exploiting that brand means upping their marketing game. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:27 | |
The Scarlets have brought in a firm of specialists to advise them. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:31 | |
When we started the heritage projects... | 0:05:31 | 0:05:34 | |
Today they're hearing about plans for the Heritage Trail, | 0:05:35 | 0:05:38 | |
an interactive pathway at Parc y Scarlets which will display these treasures | 0:05:38 | 0:05:42 | |
and excite visitors with the whole history of rugby in Llanelli. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:45 | |
A lot of the smaller clubs actually sort of gave their best | 0:05:45 | 0:05:49 | |
-players to form the Llanelli teams, so that's why they were such a strong team from the beginning. -Ah! | 0:05:49 | 0:05:54 | |
So on and off the pitch, | 0:05:54 | 0:05:56 | |
the Scarlets' brand of rugby is about to be put to the test. | 0:05:56 | 0:06:00 | |
For the players, there's an early season chance for revenge. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:03 | |
Treviso nearly scuppered the Scarlets' play-off hopes last year. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:09 | |
Wahay! | 0:06:14 | 0:06:16 | |
Hey, what a beautiful try! | 0:06:16 | 0:06:18 | |
Watching in hospitality is Peter Rees, | 0:06:18 | 0:06:20 | |
the oldest living Llanelli international. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
He's called on Chief Executive Mark Davies to sort out a graphics problem for him. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:28 | |
That bit of the programme is the bit that everybody uses, which is | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
who's playing, and actually, | 0:06:31 | 0:06:33 | |
it was very artistic - it was white writing on a red background. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:39 | |
Well, he couldn't read it. I couldn't read it, either. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:42 | |
And he's 87! | 0:06:42 | 0:06:44 | |
-Very good, Mark bach! Good boy! -Thank you, Peter. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:46 | |
After a heavy defeat by Leinster, | 0:06:48 | 0:06:50 | |
putting the Italians to the sword pleases the crowd. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:54 | |
But winning is not everyone's priority. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:57 | |
I don't know what the score is, actually. | 0:06:57 | 0:06:59 | |
They are dropping the ball all the time, scrum after scrum after scrum. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
This time of year, there's so little damage that we can just target those areas. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:07 | |
In the winter now, when the weather gets worse and the scrums cause more damage, | 0:07:07 | 0:07:11 | |
that's when the comments really come. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:14 | |
I'd still rather grass, though. I love my grass. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:17 | |
It's much better to play on grass. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:19 | |
You don't want to play on plastic, do you? | 0:07:19 | 0:07:21 | |
And it put me out of a job, so I don't like it! | 0:07:21 | 0:07:23 | |
Centre Jonathan Davies is ready to return to action after | 0:07:25 | 0:07:28 | |
a storming summer with the Lions in Australia. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:31 | |
With less than 12 months to run on his Scarlets contract, | 0:07:31 | 0:07:34 | |
he's certain to be targeted by those rich French and English clubs. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:38 | |
He's hungry for more of the big-time. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:41 | |
The boys love playing in front of massive crowds. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:43 | |
I think...that's one of the things you play rugby, like. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:47 | |
Massive atmosphere, you know, a sense of theatre. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:50 | |
September 30th, with the launch of the European Cup, | 0:07:51 | 0:07:54 | |
the curtain is up again on the big stage. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:57 | |
Heineken weekends are the big weekends. | 0:07:57 | 0:07:59 | |
I think everyone looks forward to them. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:01 | |
The team gets to showcase their skills against the rest of Europe. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:05 | |
It's television money that drives the European game. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
Players like Jonathan have to pay their dues. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:13 | |
-Have you not got a game against the Saracens? -No. No, I don't think so. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:18 | |
Even if some of the marketing types aren't quite sure who is on board. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:24 | |
-Do you know who are in your group? -Yeah. -Cos I don't. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:28 | |
Scarlets v Racing Metro. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:30 | |
French teams with massive worldwide companies | 0:08:30 | 0:08:33 | |
and the London teams with massive companies there, you know. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:36 | |
The regions do have to work very hard to get as much | 0:08:36 | 0:08:38 | |
sponsorship as they can. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:39 | |
It's down to players as well to make sure that we get results | 0:08:39 | 0:08:42 | |
and get companies that want to be involved with the Scarlets. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:46 | |
Beautiful! And you're done. One take. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:49 | |
Obviously everybody loves the Heineken Cup. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:52 | |
It's had a fantastic history, particularly Scarlets. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:54 | |
Massive history. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:56 | |
Means so much to our supporters and players, so the thought | 0:08:56 | 0:08:58 | |
of losing that is really hard for a lot of people to understand. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:01 | |
Mesdames, messieurs. Bienvenue a Cardiff. Bore da. Croeso i Gaerdydd. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:07 | |
English clubs are unhappy with the qualification rules | 0:09:08 | 0:09:11 | |
and the share of the money they are getting, so Roger Lewis | 0:09:11 | 0:09:14 | |
is keen to signal that the Welsh Rugby Union is listening. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:17 | |
I passionately and honestly believe this is the next Heineken Cup final. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:22 | |
And there will be another one from a WRU perspective | 0:09:23 | 0:09:27 | |
where the four regions were united. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:29 | |
We believe in meritocracy through qualification, through the rabble. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:34 | |
We believe in a fair distribution of monies. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:37 | |
And that's why we believe that common sense will prevail | 0:09:37 | 0:09:41 | |
and this competition will continue. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:43 | |
As a player, I think I was fortunate enough to play in some really | 0:09:45 | 0:09:51 | |
good Scarlet teams and we progressed, er, | 0:09:51 | 0:09:55 | |
to all but a final in terms of getting to three semifinals, | 0:09:55 | 0:10:00 | |
two quarterfinals. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:02 | |
A lot of highs and a few lows along the way, unfortunately, | 0:10:02 | 0:10:05 | |
but that's the beauty of the competition. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:07 | |
For every coach, every player, every supporter over the last 15, | 0:10:07 | 0:10:13 | |
16 years, whatever it's been going for, | 0:10:13 | 0:10:16 | |
it's a bit of a Holy Grail, really. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:19 | |
But the Heineken Cup is only part of what is at stake now. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:23 | |
The agreement which binds the regions of the WRU is up for renewal. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:27 | |
It's what triggers the funding the Scarlets get from the union | 0:10:27 | 0:10:31 | |
and the Scarlets have to sign to extend it by the end of December. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:35 | |
Roger Lewis has been clear. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:36 | |
Same again, Josh. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:38 | |
If the Scarlets don't sign up, | 0:10:38 | 0:10:39 | |
they won't get to represent Wales in Europe. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:42 | |
And they wouldn't get funding and support from the WRU. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:46 | |
In effect, there would be no region. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:49 | |
As the crisis continues, | 0:10:51 | 0:10:52 | |
Antonia is getting regular briefings from Scarlet's Chief Executive Mark Davies | 0:10:52 | 0:10:58 | |
about the plan for next season. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:00 | |
I've had two conversations this week with sponsors | 0:11:00 | 0:11:03 | |
that would like to commit for 14-15, | 0:11:03 | 0:11:06 | |
but can't because they don't know what they are committing to. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:10 | |
We don't know what on earth we've got past the end of the season, | 0:11:10 | 0:11:14 | |
we don't know what games we are playing in Europe or not. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:20 | |
Can't forecast season-ticket revenue, can't forecast match day revenue, | 0:11:20 | 0:11:24 | |
and actually we can't be entirely sure whether it is the pro 12 | 0:11:24 | 0:11:28 | |
or pro 10, so we can't forecast that one either. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:30 | |
With so little certainty, Mark feels unable to renew the WRU agreement. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:36 | |
Do you think they can see that we actually can't function as a business? | 0:11:36 | 0:11:40 | |
It is absolutely clear. How on earth could you sign something | 0:11:40 | 0:11:43 | |
when you don't know what your fixtures list is going to be? | 0:11:43 | 0:11:45 | |
You're hardly going to sign a contract that you don't know the conditions of. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:49 | |
Right. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:57 | |
# If looks could kill they probably will | 0:11:57 | 0:11:59 | |
# In games without frontiers... # | 0:11:59 | 0:12:01 | |
Mid-October. For the fans, Europe beckons maybe for the last time. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:06 | |
Let's beat them. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:09 | |
First up, a daunting trip to London. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
Away wins in the Heineken Cup are rare. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:16 | |
But the Harlequins are in for a shock. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:22 | |
Game, set and match to the Scarlets. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:36 | |
By December, some of Welsh rugby's biggest names | 0:12:43 | 0:12:46 | |
are at the point of signing for French and English clubs. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:49 | |
The regions are due to meet the WRU. The media are calling it D-day. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:53 | |
Mark has a pre-meeting with the other regions | 0:12:57 | 0:12:59 | |
but he's not hopeful about the main talks. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:02 | |
I'm sure we will have a constructive meeting with the regions | 0:13:02 | 0:13:05 | |
first and foremost, which is what we're doing now. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:09 | |
That will be constructive. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:11 | |
Where we go in the meeting after that, | 0:13:11 | 0:13:13 | |
I don't have any expectation, because I've learnt over | 0:13:13 | 0:13:16 | |
a period of a couple of years now that that's a sensible place to be. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:21 | |
The regions are working on a Plan B, breaking away from the WRU | 0:13:21 | 0:13:25 | |
to join the English league, the Aviva Premiership. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:28 | |
Mark leaves the discussion with his regional colleagues | 0:13:29 | 0:13:32 | |
just as the WRU arrive. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:34 | |
Opting to join the English clubs would be lucrative | 0:13:36 | 0:13:39 | |
but it's a long shot. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:40 | |
I'm just off to do some actual constructive work, so... | 0:13:40 | 0:13:45 | |
The option probably wouldn't be sanctioned by the game's governing bodies. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 | |
It's difficult to say if we've really, | 0:13:48 | 0:13:50 | |
really got a true option at the moment... | 0:13:50 | 0:13:53 | |
but it's our responsibility to work at it and it is our responsibility to | 0:13:53 | 0:13:58 | |
try to investigate every single angle that is possible to us to survive. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:03 | |
We are literally at that point. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:05 | |
And not just to survive for today but to survive for five years' time | 0:14:05 | 0:14:09 | |
and ten years' time when the French | 0:14:09 | 0:14:12 | |
and English clubs will be stronger from their commercial platforms. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:15 | |
That's fact. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:16 | |
So it's no good us looking at just today, | 0:14:16 | 0:14:18 | |
we've got tomorrow's job to sort as well. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:21 | |
Negotiations go on into the evening, | 0:14:21 | 0:14:23 | |
par for the course for the Scarlets' chairman. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
Oh, I don't mind. I've been in tough meetings most of my life. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:28 | |
I started in the steel industry in 1979, just after the big strike, | 0:14:28 | 0:14:34 | |
and that's a tough old business so, yeah. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:36 | |
But D-day ends without accord. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:40 | |
The deadline to sign the agreement is just days away. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:43 | |
The WRU's concern about the exodus of players to England | 0:14:43 | 0:14:46 | |
and France has now become critical. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:48 | |
Mid-December. | 0:14:52 | 0:14:54 | |
The Welsh regions want to join English clubs in a new | 0:14:54 | 0:14:56 | |
European competition with more money from a new broadcaster. | 0:14:56 | 0:15:00 | |
But Luke has other things on his mind. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:03 | |
It's quite sad, really. I'm 25, single, living on my own, | 0:15:03 | 0:15:08 | |
and in my phone there is just photos of grass. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:10 | |
With a big game in the offing, the sequence of snaps helps Luke | 0:15:10 | 0:15:14 | |
track how the pitch has stood up to wear and tear since the autumn. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:17 | |
Picture after picture of grass. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:21 | |
Bless. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:22 | |
Don't tell anybody. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:26 | |
It's just a photo of grass to most people but, to me, | 0:15:26 | 0:15:28 | |
it paints 1,000 words. HE CHUCKLES | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
From late October, early November, up until about February, | 0:15:31 | 0:15:35 | |
this side of the pitch isn't covered in shade. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:38 | |
So without sunlight the grass doesn't grow. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:40 | |
That's why I'm chasing everyone off the pitch all the time, | 0:15:40 | 0:15:42 | |
trying to move them over that side. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:44 | |
Looking at me stupid and thinking I'm just being really pedantic | 0:15:44 | 0:15:48 | |
and awkward but I'm not. There is a reason behind it. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:51 | |
That's because once it's damaged, once it's gone, it's gone. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:55 | |
# It's a knockout. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:56 | |
# If looks could kill they probably will | 0:15:56 | 0:16:00 | |
# In games without frontiers War without tears... # | 0:16:00 | 0:16:04 | |
The French have invaded Llanelli | 0:16:04 | 0:16:06 | |
and that throws up some security issues. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:09 | |
We've got everything ready. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:10 | |
Passes for everybody, tickets for everybody, food order for everybody, | 0:16:10 | 0:16:13 | |
correct pass in the right area, so security should be happy with me. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:17 | |
That's the deal we've got with Stewart from Head Of Security. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:23 | |
If I have a good game, he buys me a cupcake, | 0:16:23 | 0:16:26 | |
otherwise I'm going to buy the cupcakes. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:28 | |
So fingers crossed, no cupcakes. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:32 | |
The French invaders have already captured one of the Scarlets' big guns. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:35 | |
Clermont Auvergne have signed Jonathan Davies for next season. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:41 | |
It points up a huge disparity in funding. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:44 | |
Big difference when you compare a 30 million team to a 3 million team. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:50 | |
And it's the big spenders who take the spoils of battle. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:54 | |
For the Scarlets' European Cup hopes, it's a knockout. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:57 | |
But, in rugby, fans always seem happy to fraternise with the enemy. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:08 | |
With Christmas coming, the game's governing bodies have mounted | 0:17:11 | 0:17:16 | |
one more attempt to save their version of the European Cup. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:19 | |
That was Nigel, who's in another meeting trying to understand | 0:17:19 | 0:17:23 | |
what, if anything, happened in the union's meeting on Friday, | 0:17:23 | 0:17:26 | |
which, again, the simple answer is nothing | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
so the mediators flew in all the way from Canada, spend a whole day | 0:17:29 | 0:17:35 | |
and couldn't agree anything beyond having another meeting in January. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:39 | |
So once again we are all fiddling while Rome burns... | 0:17:39 | 0:17:45 | |
I can't actually begin to understand how a group of adults managed | 0:17:45 | 0:17:52 | |
to sit in a room trying to agree something very significant | 0:17:52 | 0:17:55 | |
and important for a whole day and just agreed to have another meeting. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:58 | |
That's not like any business I've ever been part of | 0:17:58 | 0:18:02 | |
but that's where we're at, | 0:18:02 | 0:18:03 | |
so we don't appear to be any further forward. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:08 | |
Still nothing defined, another month on and another month to go | 0:18:08 | 0:18:13 | |
apparently because there may be a meeting sometime in January. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:16 | |
Absolutely staggering. But there we are, another good Sunday. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:19 | |
Happy Christmas. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:20 | |
Nigel arrives back to brief the Supporters' Trust. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:26 | |
He's been meeting the English Aviva clubs. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:28 | |
Joining them could help the Scarlets bridge the gulf with the French Top 14. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:33 | |
One of the choices, potentially, is to join one of the leagues | 0:18:33 | 0:18:36 | |
which has at least got the potential to rival the Top 14 in terms of commercial value. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:41 | |
There is no secret that that could potentially be the Aviva. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:45 | |
Is that probable? I'd honestly have to answer today, maybe not. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:50 | |
Could it happen? Possibly. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:54 | |
The real game-changer in all this has been the French market. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
The French TV deal for the Top 14 | 0:18:57 | 0:19:00 | |
is likely to be well over 65 million euros next year. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:04 | |
I think they're on 30 at the moment. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:08 | |
That one league with those 14 clubs | 0:19:08 | 0:19:09 | |
is generating more than the entire turnover of the WRU. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:12 | |
Boxing Day. The Scarlets are playing regional rivals the Ospreys. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:20 | |
Few of the capacity crowd seem fazed by the prospect of turning | 0:19:23 | 0:19:27 | |
their backs on the agreement with the WRU to join | 0:19:27 | 0:19:30 | |
the English Aviva Premiership instead. | 0:19:30 | 0:19:32 | |
This is what regional rugby is all about | 0:19:32 | 0:19:34 | |
and this is what big games are about. And you have big games in the Aviva. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:38 | |
We want more days like this with good crowds | 0:19:38 | 0:19:40 | |
and I think the best place for that is in the Aviva. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:43 | |
There is a lot of politics going on and people have lost sight of the game. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:47 | |
It's despicable. They need to sort it out. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:49 | |
It's not fair on the regions, it's not fair on the fans who turn up every week. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:53 | |
Before kick-off, something Parc y Scarlets has never seen before. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:58 | |
It's just a protest before the game by the fans. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:01 | |
Joint protest by Osprey and Scarlet fans, showing that we want | 0:20:01 | 0:20:06 | |
to support the region's cause in the battle that's going on at present. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:09 | |
This is for all of us, guys. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:11 | |
What this means to you guys in here, to the people who work here | 0:20:11 | 0:20:15 | |
day in, day out, the people who come and watch you play here, | 0:20:15 | 0:20:18 | |
if you back down 1cm, | 0:20:18 | 0:20:22 | |
they've won that little battle. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:24 | |
-You don't -BLEEP -back down today. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:27 | |
We go after them every single time. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:29 | |
FANS SING | 0:20:29 | 0:20:33 | |
What this demonstrates is what it means | 0:20:42 | 0:20:44 | |
when you've got a fixture with a history and heritage behind it | 0:20:44 | 0:20:49 | |
and all of the emotion that that creates. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:51 | |
Go on, Scarlets! | 0:20:51 | 0:20:53 | |
Scarlets! Scarlets! | 0:20:53 | 0:20:57 | |
But will the regions be here to play the derby next Christmas? | 0:20:57 | 0:21:01 | |
Well, I'm not sure there's any guarantee at the moment. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:04 | |
But 14,000 people in here are hoping that this fixture | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
will take place next year, and we've got every intention, | 0:21:10 | 0:21:14 | |
us Ospreys and Scarlets, that this fixture will take place next year. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:18 | |
But we've got some way to go still to ensure that, as we stand today. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:26 | |
-COMMENTATOR: -That's it, the clock is red! | 0:21:26 | 0:21:28 | |
The last play. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:30 | |
There's one score in it. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:33 | |
The Scarlets need a try. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:37 | |
The Ospreys just have to get the ball off the park. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:42 | |
-COMMENTATOR: -The whole crowd trying to drive them home. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:47 | |
Everybody living on their nerves. | 0:21:52 | 0:21:54 | |
# All the stores were closed and shuttered | 0:22:06 | 0:22:13 | |
Defeat hurts. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:15 | |
# All the streets were dark and bare | 0:22:15 | 0:22:22 | |
And especially at home. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:23 | |
# In our town oh, scarlet ribbons | 0:22:23 | 0:22:30 | |
# Not one ribbon for her hair... # | 0:22:32 | 0:22:39 | |
For the Scarlets, little Christmas cheer. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:43 | |
And by New Year, they could be out in the cold. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:46 | |
December 31. Deadline day for signing the agreement. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:54 | |
The union insists it's the best way forward for Welsh rugby. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:57 | |
At the Cardiff Blues headquarters, | 0:22:57 | 0:22:59 | |
the region's executives have gathered. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:01 | |
I don't think it's the way anybody would choose to spend | 0:23:01 | 0:23:04 | |
New Year's Eve. | 0:23:04 | 0:23:05 | |
The individual regions have all had a formal board meeting. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:09 | |
38 of Wales's most successful businesspeople, lawyers, | 0:23:09 | 0:23:16 | |
former players... | 0:23:16 | 0:23:17 | |
..absolutely unanimously... | 0:23:21 | 0:23:24 | |
..confirming that we cannot, er, sign to extend the legal agreement | 0:23:26 | 0:23:32 | |
that commits us, at one side, to all of our costs. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:36 | |
But does not in any way shape or form define any of our incomes | 0:23:36 | 0:23:40 | |
or competitive platforms the other side. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:43 | |
It's just completely impossible. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:45 | |
And at the same time, | 0:23:46 | 0:23:47 | |
we will be confirming that we have got options available to us now that | 0:23:47 | 0:23:52 | |
allow us to plan positively forward | 0:23:52 | 0:23:54 | |
and not just negatively cut costs. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:57 | |
But the turning of the year is a time to look back | 0:23:57 | 0:24:00 | |
as well as forward. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:01 | |
The Parc y Scarlets Heritage Trail is close to opening. | 0:24:01 | 0:24:05 | |
Hopefully, once the trail opens, people will donate more and more | 0:24:05 | 0:24:08 | |
of these things, because they really are... | 0:24:08 | 0:24:11 | |
They're treasured pieces, really, in terms of the story of the club. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:15 | |
Exactly, I mean, even the bandages have got the plastic still on them | 0:24:15 | 0:24:18 | |
and everything. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:20 | |
So, really, really special piece of memorabilia here. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:23 | |
Amongst the items being dusted off for display is a pair of boots | 0:24:24 | 0:24:27 | |
once worn by a Llanelli hero. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:30 | |
Barry John. Amazing. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:31 | |
Another player from those far-off glory days is still | 0:24:34 | 0:24:37 | |
with the Scarlets. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:39 | |
Gareth Jenkins coached Wales too, but he's sceptical | 0:24:39 | 0:24:42 | |
about the WRU's plans to contract players centrally themselves. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:46 | |
You have to belong somewhere. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:48 | |
You have to have an identity. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:50 | |
And as far as I'm concerned, the Scarlets and Llanelli before it | 0:24:50 | 0:24:54 | |
has had a strong identity, with a brotherhood relationship, | 0:24:54 | 0:24:58 | |
to make sure that every player is recognised through his success | 0:24:58 | 0:25:03 | |
and why he's been successful. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:05 | |
And he's been successful because of the environment that he has | 0:25:05 | 0:25:09 | |
grown up in, he's belonged to, he's developed in. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:13 | |
The WRU is adamant that the loss of big names | 0:25:13 | 0:25:16 | |
is so damaging that they have to act now. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:18 | |
But it leaves the players uncertain about the whole question | 0:25:18 | 0:25:21 | |
of central contracts. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:23 | |
You're asking the wrong man. I'm not likely to be offered one. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:26 | |
You better speak to one of these couple here. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:29 | |
The issue is, nobody really knows what it means. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:32 | |
We'd just be like an asset, asked to go and play rugby | 0:25:32 | 0:25:37 | |
and I don't think... If you had people who weren't in love with where | 0:25:37 | 0:25:41 | |
they were, then you wouldn't have what we love about Welsh rugby. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:44 | |
Everyone down here, we are all, | 0:25:44 | 0:25:46 | |
first focus, Scarlets players and then if you are | 0:25:46 | 0:25:49 | |
fortunate to get selected for your country, that's great. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:51 | |
But to be associated to a club, that's really important, I think. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:55 | |
The longer it drags out, | 0:25:55 | 0:25:57 | |
it's obviously going to be very frustrating. | 0:25:57 | 0:25:59 | |
I think, you know, both parties are working very hard separately | 0:25:59 | 0:26:03 | |
but not actually coming together and working together. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:06 | |
I think that's the difficulty at the moment. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:09 | |
That's Ken's politics degree coming through there. Very diplomatic. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:12 | |
It's very difficult to make fully informed decisions | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
because there's so many things that we don't know, so many uncertainties | 0:26:15 | 0:26:19 | |
which I've found difficult. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:21 | |
It's worried me and it's something that has stressed me out | 0:26:21 | 0:26:24 | |
quite a bit and I wish it hadn't happened this year of all years | 0:26:24 | 0:26:27 | |
when I was out of contract, | 0:26:27 | 0:26:29 | |
but it's got to happen to somebody and I just hope that, | 0:26:29 | 0:26:32 | |
like Rob says, for the best interests of Welsh rugby | 0:26:32 | 0:26:35 | |
that it gets sorted. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:37 | |
And it's not just the players who are worried. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:44 | |
It is quite difficult with everything that's going on between the regions | 0:26:44 | 0:26:48 | |
and the WRU on the basis that, from January onwards, | 0:26:48 | 0:26:53 | |
we usually start thinking about renewals of business clubs, | 0:26:53 | 0:26:56 | |
sponsors, investors. | 0:26:56 | 0:26:58 | |
On a personal basis, you do think, "What's going to happen to my job?" | 0:26:58 | 0:27:03 | |
So you do have those concerns. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:04 | |
January 31, our year where the Scarlets closes, | 0:27:07 | 0:27:10 | |
the Heritage Trail opens, | 0:27:10 | 0:27:12 | |
on interactive tablets the whole history of Llanelli rugby. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:16 | |
What on earth made this little town in West Wales | 0:27:16 | 0:27:19 | |
such a cauldron of talent across world rugby? | 0:27:19 | 0:27:22 | |
It's another deadline day. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:25 | |
Time, say the regions, to conclude matters with the WRU or move ahead | 0:27:25 | 0:27:29 | |
with their options of breaking away. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:32 | |
We're still in the position, we can't run our business, | 0:27:32 | 0:27:34 | |
we can't launch our season tickets, we can't commit to sponsors, | 0:27:34 | 0:27:38 | |
I can't even order kit. | 0:27:38 | 0:27:39 | |
If nothing happens today, we're back to | 0:27:39 | 0:27:41 | |
having to find a resolution by ourselves, our own way. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:46 | |
The WRU is urging the Scarlets to strike deals with Scott Williams | 0:27:46 | 0:27:50 | |
and Rhys Priestland. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:52 | |
Otherwise, the union will offer them | 0:27:52 | 0:27:54 | |
central contracts, as they have already done with Sam Warburton. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:58 | |
Something will have to give very soon. | 0:27:58 | 0:28:02 | |
We've got to start listening to what people want. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:05 | |
You know, what do the public want? What do the players want? | 0:28:05 | 0:28:08 | |
What do the coaches want? What do sponsors want? | 0:28:08 | 0:28:11 | |
And they want week in, week out | 0:28:11 | 0:28:12 | |
competitive rugby with attractive features. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:15 | |
We can't sustain the game on six or seven international days a year, | 0:28:15 | 0:28:18 | |
fantastic as they are. | 0:28:18 | 0:28:20 | |
We've got to get the product right week in, week out. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:24 | |
# If I live to be 200 | 0:28:24 | 0:28:30 | |
A precious past. | 0:28:30 | 0:28:32 | |
# I will never know | 0:28:32 | 0:28:34 | |
A precarious future. | 0:28:34 | 0:28:36 | |
As with so much we treasure in life, we don't yet know how it ends. | 0:28:38 | 0:28:42 | |
# Those lovely scarlet ribbons | 0:28:42 | 0:28:50 | |
# Scarlet ribbons for her hair... # | 0:28:50 | 0:28:56 |