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Hi, I'm Claudia-Liza, live at nine o'clock with a quick update.

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"Please, please, help find her." The emotional appeal from April

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Jones' mum. The five year old is still missing in mid-Wales. Police

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confirmed local man Mark Bridger has been arrested.

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There has been a blunder over the awarding of the new contract to run

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the West Coast rail line. So much so that the deal has been scrapped.

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Three civil servants have been suspended.

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Thousands of people and police lined the streets of Manchester

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today. The funeral took place of Constable Nicola Hughes. She was

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one of two officers killed last month.

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Justin Lee Collins has given a second day of evidence at his trial.

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It heard his ex-girlfriend repeatedly told him to "dump" her.

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He denies domestic and emotional abuse.

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He got axed over a row about texts he sent to rivals. But now a four

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month deal has been agreed so Kevin Pietersen can return to the England

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cricket squad. He will undergo "reintegration."

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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 62 seconds

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More from us in an hour. Keep it on Last time: you lived on 5 grand for

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Last time: you lived on 5 grand for Last time: you lived on 5 grand for

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a year? Richard Reed chose three businesses to put to the test. Well

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done, mate. Despite their best hustles - I'm not interested in the

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market stall. The pressure bit too much. Only one

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enough to win massive investment. It's up to �100,000. Yes!

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three ideas will he gamble on this time?

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Meet Richard Reed, the smoothie Meet Richard Reed, the smoothie

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Meet Richard Reed, the smoothie behind Innocent drinks. He is

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behind Innocent drinks. He is Britain's hottest entrepreneur and

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Britain's hottest entrepreneur and Britain's hottest entrepreneur and

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Meet Richard Reed, he is on the hunt for the business

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stars of the future. It's not where you are from, not about what

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you look like, it's not about who your parents are, it is about you.

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He has set aside up to a million invest. And went nationwide to get

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you to apply for a slice of it. are going to help a whole new

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generation of entrepreneurs set their own business.

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it. Now, 500 hopefuls will get the

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chance to pitch their Richard. From the no brainers -

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they taste really delicious! To the no-hopers. He hasn't turned up so I

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guess he is not going to get investment. Each week he will

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the best three. Are they passionate, smart, ruthless enough

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to make it? To put them through their paces. Not a good

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presentation at all. Oh my God. It's absolutely tiny and completely

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insignificant. Before is good enough to win a once

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lifetime investment. I want to hear about retailers that you got

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up. That doesn't make a business; that makes a hobby. You are saying

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your business is currently worth million. Now, that is one hell of

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In this vast arena, Richard awaits In this vast arena, Richard awaits

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the arrival of our entrepreneurs, all desperate to

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impress and secure a sizable investment. I massively believe in

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the UK. We are an incredible country as a source of entrepreneurs. We got

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it in our blood and we are gonna show that today. From

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he will see today, Richard will pick only the three best ideas. Everyone

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knows they will have to perfect. I have spent years pitching

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ideas and being told no again and again and again. Do you know what?

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The truth is a valuable thing. are not going to tell somebody that

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their idea is great if we think rubbish. These seedling start-ups

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all know that the thumbs up Richard could put them on the

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fast-track to success. Loads of really smart ideas out there and -

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Some not so smart. seeing something that

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transform the world. Could be onto something here. Not good looking

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enough to be models. believe that there's any

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like us around the world. It has all come from here. Very good, very

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good, very good, yay! But which of the ideas he is about to hear will

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make it into Richard's top three? Let's hop on board for the

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pitch. He is looking to bag a load of cash for his hilarious

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comedy bus tour business. A feature of one of the tours, it could just

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be a joke about an eye. How far we go with that? I don't know if

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I-eye-I can get - OK, let's go I don't think so. You've got people

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delivering a fun, entertaining tour and the main goal for every comedy

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bus experience is to generate laughter. How is it a business?

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Because we will start out with one bus and hopefully franchise out to

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each town. Can I ask you a personal question, do you have a bus? I

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don't yet, no. So how are you going to get a bus? Well, the next stage

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hopefully, I will hire a bus. Next round, get a bus and get on board.

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OK, OK. OK, have you got anything I could take away? Well. I

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appreciate it, thank you. Ding, ding, I think this is our stop. He

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had a tough gig, didn't he? That's flat no from me, I am afraid. Some

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things are so early stage, you just can't invest. Driven away

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bus tour with no bus, Richard heads out on the hunt for some tasty

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ideas. It looks amazing next door so we've got competition from

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but we think we've got a good product. Father and son duo

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Alastair and Will are hoping their Granny's beef paste recipe will send

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Richard potty. Nice to meet you. Who are you two? We are Original

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Recipes. You might have heard of Sutherland Spreads. Yes. I'm Will

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Sutherland Spreads. Yes. I'm Will Sutherland and this is my father.

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OK. So what does he make of Granny's beef? I think he likes it.

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Are you trying to do the latest version of dodgy old potted sandwich

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spread? I think I like anything that reinvents a high quality version.

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We thought we would give it a go this year. Help yourself, Richard.

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What do you think of the taste? Mmm, I'm having another one. We are

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looking for high end Delhis, farmer's markets. Why not

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supermarket? Over the years they drive down the price. 90% of the

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food is sold by supermarkets, you are saying you will rule out 90% of

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the market already. I love the back story, and it's appealing to me.

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Good to meet some fellow northerners. Cheers, bye-bye for

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now. So having eaten the majority of their display, what will Richard

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think of their business? What do I look for in food? Quality products ,

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tick; a good story, double tick actually. Yes, I think, yes, they

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are a definite maybe. They are a definite maybe.

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Also on the lookout for more Also on the lookout for more

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definite maybes are Richard's crack squad of business experts. Hi, I'm

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Martin. Hi. Their job is to sift the superheros from the superzeros.

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Basically he is a superhero that gains his powers through eating

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fruit and vegetables, he has Facebook page obviously. Scoop the

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flower, scoop the flower. Put it on the table, put it on the table. The

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objective of my company is to help people get happier, healthier and

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more beautiful using the power of fruit. Did she just say using the

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power of fruit? Using the power of fruit. Scoop the flower, put it on

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the table. My cupcakes. Take one if you like. No, that's far too cute.

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We are taking it on big time. All right, mate? I've got a really

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one you need to take a look at. Tim Campbell thinks he has found an idea

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that might be the "breast" yet. This is the brainchild of 25-year-old Ash

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who hopes to revolutionise bottle time for babies. Tell me about your

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idea. My sister had a problem she was travelling, making up

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formula so I solved the problem. It's a thermos, put hot water in

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here, that on there, formula powder there, take it with you and when you

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want to feed your child you press, shake it, fill the teat and feed

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your child directly. I don't have kids but this sounds really

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convenient. I've done 108 people, market research, and 88 have

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they would buy this if it was on the market. What about retailers?

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I've spoken to Asda and they've said they want to see a finished product.

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Obviously it's concept stage right now. All right, good work. Ash

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avoided making a teat of himself the pitch, but unsure of whether

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it's made for success Richard checks in with the team. He said he owned

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the patent but we should ask - anyone? No. No. No. No. LAUGHTER

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Tim is a dad and he is by it, he thinks it's a good one.

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That's a really good idea. We've got a number more to see, I think we

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on the final stretch now. Let's back out there and find some more

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talent. Go. With three investable ideas to find before the end of the

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day, Richard sends the troops back to work and makes a beeline for

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YogaNisha. They want to improve your work place through the power of yoga

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and massage. This is bound to have happy ending. Yes, it's really

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comfortable, yes. Right, let's give them a good grilling, 'eh, Richard?

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Richard? Richard? YogaNisha, we offer bespoke services to match your

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needs, so we offer yoga wellbeing massage, Reikilaughter yoga, we use

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the best experts to come to you. Yes, a little bit lower. That's

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nice, yes. Initially we want market research money because we know what

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we want to give to the market, we can give a whole mind, body, spirit

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service, so we want to know if the market want it. Richard, they want

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to spend your money on market research. I'm not being funny,

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that's a rubbish thing for me invest in, into you researching

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your market. That's not investing in growth, that's investing in

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doing your homework. You don't have to spend a penny. You can do an

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online survey - I would probably stop rubbing him now. You want

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investment. When you have worked it out you can come to me to ask for

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money to invest in the business. I totally believe in it but you have

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to think about how is the money going to directly create the growth.

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It's there. Keep doing it. so not such a relaxing massage.

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did you think, team? Amazing. Our little dream team. Really? Richard?

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It's a flat no for me. I've got lot of respect for it but I'm

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to go make an investment. Despite Richard's straight talking, he

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to be winning a few fans. We've had our hands on Richard. Literally. I

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find Richard to be a little bit handsome, I will admit that.

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LAUGHTER. Is it the tussled hair? He looks

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fabulous already, obviously his hair is amazing, chic. The confident

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swagger? Absolutely not. Flirting with Richard? He is a married man.

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I did hold his hand. It's the wide open shirt, isn't it? We were

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surprised that he looks pretty chilled, kind of four buttons

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undone. Yes, exactly. Call! But what will Richard make of the next

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saucy pitch? saucy p. He is my hero. Does that

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sound really and a half? sound really and a

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sound really and sound really naff? Meet this pair.

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Man Meat Fire was born out of passion for food. We've done two

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years of barbecue catering. A little bit of a fallout from that was our

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sources, people started to ask where we could source them, to pardon the

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pun, and we now are looking to them in high end retailers,

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Selfridges. You are tradeling? We are. They are delicious. That first

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one is amazing. The economics? They average about �1.70 a bottle, they

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would retail at �6.75. would retail at � �6.75. Expensive.

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Yes, it's high end. I'm worried about the expense to the consumer.

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Can you solve that? We are probably choosing the most expensive bottles.

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So there would be things you could work through? If it was getting

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bigger it's certainly something we can look at. I think the most

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important thing is to have a product and I really do believe

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you've got that. I think you have to work on the economics. So ladies,

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what do you think after your one-to-one with Richard? We

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through all sorts of emotions. Happiness, terrifiediness, yes. And

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then over really quickly. Yes, thinking I need a quick drink. Yes.

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Dirty eater. So Man Meat Fire I thought a great name and a genuinely

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delicious product. They've got small number of high end retailers

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stocking them but if you want to big you've just got to get more

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The last pitch of the day is Baggers The last pitch of the day is Baggers

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Originals, set up by Mum Angie in the 1980s that she is now

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relaunching with her daughters and friends. Tell me, what's going on?

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The concept is waterproof rainwear and swimwear for kids that is fun,

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fashionable and practical. Let show you the concept through the old

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range. Oh yes. So all the products push into the waterproof bag. Like

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this. Into a pocket forming a bag. We've done a lot of market research

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with parents, primary school teachers and they just loved them.

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But the bit I don't get is this says established in 1988. What happened?

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20 years ago, we were a team of three and the demand was so enormous

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and we were so undercapitalised, just ran out of cash and it was

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the saddest story ever, and you know, I've always wanted to do it

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again. What's going to be different this time in terms of it not going

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out of business? Obviously with the last 20 years I've started several

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other businesses and got a lot more experience now and I know where

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went wrong last time. We really need some help with funding for getting

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everything from China as we really want to have everything

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manufactured, we want samples and everything, and that's where your

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funding would come in. What do I think? I think that was a brilliant

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pitch by a group of people that clearly know what they are talking

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about. It does seem like a really cool product. Nice to meet you.

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Thank you. It's an interesting one. You know, there's a lady there

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has had several different businesses, one at least has gone

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out of business, so what do you of that? I've got to make sure that

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she has really understood where it went wrong the first time, but if

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it's true what they say that there isn't anything on the market, with

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those sorts of numbers, with that team, I can totally imagine

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After a fun and frantic day of After a fun and frantic day of

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pitching, the hundreds of hopefuls start to make their way home

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start to make their way. start to make their way home, and

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Richard is left alone to decide which of the three ventures he is

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willing to risk a little more on. I've found a few now that

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excited by. There's some think have got real potential, put

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some of my favourites up here on the board. Now I've got to decide.

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This is tough. Entrepreneurs like This is tough. Entrepreneurs like

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saying yes, but actually most you know, in business,

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out of ten, the right answer say no, and so that's what this is

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A few days after the expo and A few days after the expo and

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Richard is about to meet his three. What he hasn't worked out yet

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is how much capital he is going to give them. I'm going to give these

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businesses a little bit of money to get them started. It's called seed

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capital. They then have to prove to me that they are taking it seriously

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and worth further investment and worth further investment.

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Richard set aside up to 5 grand each of the three ideas but who will

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be the first to try and prise it him?

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Baggers Original! Watch out Baggers Original! Watch out

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Richard, here come the girls. It's Baggers Original. It's the relaunch

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of a brand that started 22 years ago. We are now relaunching it with

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Jessica, my daughter. And with these two. I love the independence of

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being my own boss. She is the best boss in the world. I

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love working with Angie. I am just given so much responsibility and

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allowed to express my ideas. It's new and exciting and I have a lot of

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autonomy. It's brilliant. She is role model and she is inspirational.

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I'm very, very proud of her. new generation at the helm, Baggers

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are optimistic about their future, but last time the business failed.

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When you do have a failure in business, it's very difficult to

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kind of face the world again. This brand will not fail again. Baggers

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are back, for good. I want to just talk numbers with you. Of the seed

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capital, how much do what are you going to use it for?

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We would like the full it's for two things. Funny,

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know no one doesn't want the full �5,000. At the start of a

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you are always going to need We need to get the

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process underway so we need samples from China. What I'm wanting to

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understand from you guys to invest is how the hell you are

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going to get in front of the consumer. We do feel that we do

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need to get involved with a retailer to develop sales and push the brand.

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That's great and I would totally support that. The best way you

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build awareness for your brand is to have your products in shops. I'm

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just going to cut to the chase, right, I definitely want to work

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with you so I will put in 3 out of the 5. So well done. I will put

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money in to fund the prototype development but most importantly,

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get your product into retail. Yeah. Yes! The Baggers are back in

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business and all rather excitable. Well done! We are back in!

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one down, two to go. Who is next? How are you guys doing? Move over

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girls, it's another family affair as we go from bags to beef with the

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boys from Original Recipes. Earlier this year, 25-year-old Will asked

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Dad Al if they could work together and revive their old family

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business. Britain needs potted beef because it's the best. It's

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fabulous. It's an instant reaction, when people eat it, and it

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people happy. That's what do. Do you want me to try this?

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Please do. And potted beef happiness also spreads to Will. I

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wake up and want to come to work because I know it's a product that

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I've put my heart and soul into. It's got beef in it, beef in it,

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more beef in it. There's so beef in it, you can't get nothing

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else in it. Granny Mary's finest potted beef. I think it

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contain beef. Well, when we last spoke - we talked about

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supermarkets. You were quite on supermarkets. My position is I

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bloody well love the supermarkets. They feed our nation, it's where 90%

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of the food is bought, so to me to have a food business that doesn't

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want to go into supermarkets, would understand it, but it would be

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totally not how I would call it. What we don't want to do is to

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the supermarkets and then them make us mass produce it and then put

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preservatives in it to try to lower that price point down. I'm not here

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to tell you how to run your it's your thing, but I would see it

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as a wonderful than as a thing to sort of

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from. What I see here is there's real potential and there's some

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decisions that you are going to have to get right. Yes. Is it only ever

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going to be farmers' markets and high end retailers or one day do you

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aspire to the supermarkets? But I will put in 3 grand and then you can

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invest it how you see best fit. Brilliant. Great to see you boys

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again. So Richard ate all the samples again and it's a proud

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father/son moment. Who would have thought that potted beef could

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such joy? Well done, son. Excellent. Only one business to

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come through the door. Last, but not least, with no family working with

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him and flying solo, it's Ash, with My Feed, ironically aimed

:24:18.:24:27.

families. The idea came from my sister, being a parent, a young mum,

:24:27.:24:30.

she was making the hot water on her. That's how it was

:24:30.:24:34.

born. I like to kind of work undercover and kind of do

:24:34.:24:44.
:24:44.:24:46.

own way. Good evening, 007. Parent buys number 1, flask, number 2 baby

:24:46.:24:52.

bottle, number 3, powder container. Replace it with My Feed. That's

:24:52.:24:56.

shaken, not stirred. The thing with my brother is he is a problem

:24:56.:25:02.

solver. Not that good at Tumbling Monkeys though. Being young I think

:25:02.:25:04.

there's a lot more you will and I think this is just the

:25:04.:25:09.

beginning. Very clever, Mr Bond. I like to work hard on my own and I've

:25:09.:25:15.

got other talents. Full of surprises. Clearly the world is not

:25:15.:25:21.

enough for Ash but will he be offered a Quantum of Solace? What

:25:21.:25:25.

about getting out to see retailers? I want to see someone stock it once

:25:25.:25:29.

it's made. From a retail perspective they want to see a

:25:29.:25:33.

finished article rather than prototype. To get this into

:25:33.:25:38.

production with custom-made parts, there's going to be quite a bit of

:25:38.:25:42.

upfront investment? Yes, I want to develop it now to the next stage,

:25:42.:25:46.

and I want to finalise the aesthetics. So I will put the

:25:46.:25:50.

grand in as seed capital. I'm going to need definite confirmation of

:25:50.:25:54.

proper retail interest, and we are going to need to know exactly how

:25:54.:25:57.

it's going to get manufactured and that we can afford it. Are you up

:25:57.:26:02.

for that? Definitely. I'm definitely up for that. OK mate, we

:26:02.:26:08.

are in business. Cheers, bye for now. Lost for words. I've worked

:26:08.:26:11.

hard to get to this stage and to be recognised by Richard is

:26:11.:26:14.

amazing. Bit of a result then. Two old businesses relaunch add a

:26:14.:26:21.

new one about to start. Richard's got his three ventures and they've

:26:21.:26:24.

got just six weeks to prove they can be their own boss.

:26:24.:26:29.

Investment is all about transforming a business. Here, I've got on the

:26:29.:26:33.

one hand two family businesses that are small and great, but they've got

:26:33.:26:37.

to convince me that they can get big. On the other hand,ise got Ash,

:26:37.:26:41.

who has got a family product but is doing it by himself, which is much

:26:41.:26:51.
:26:51.:26:52.

harder, so he has got to prove to me that he has got what it takes.

:26:52.:26:55.

Chesterfield, home to Original Chesterfield, home to Original

:26:56.:27:01.

Recipes duo Will and Al Sutherland. By day, Will is the master of potted

:27:01.:27:07.

beef, but by night it's different story. This is our first

:27:07.:27:16.

song. He is the drummer in Idle hands and the devil's work. There he

:27:16.:27:21.

is. Even as a rock star there is no escaping his true calling. What

:27:21.:27:26.

you all do other than the band? Do you all have lives? I've just

:27:26.:27:29.

started a new business, I make potted beef. LAUGHTER. It's an

:27:29.:27:36.

- LAUGHTER. Is it nice? It's beautiful. We've all tried it and

:27:36.:27:41.

it tastes great. Nice plug. It's little known fact that Alex Turner

:27:41.:27:48.

from the Arctic monkeys had in pasties. They will be one to

:27:48.:27:55.

Amazing, really good. Really enjoyed Amazing, really good. Really enjoyed

:27:55.:27:59.

it. Done my business, got my band, I'm over the moon. Don't forget

:27:59.:28:07.

work tomorrow, Will. Uh oh. The next morning, Will is a bit

:28:07.:28:15.

wear. Oh dear. But the show must on. Richard wants to see Granny

:28:15.:28:19.

Mary's potted beef on shelves and there's less than

:28:19.:28:24.

weeks to go, so Will is hitting the phones. My name is William

:28:24.:28:28.

Sutherland, I work for a company called Original Recipes. Basically

:28:28.:28:33.

we make a British potted beef. Thursday? OK, I will I try again,

:28:33.:28:38.

then, thank you very much. I for - hello? I was wondering if I

:28:38.:28:42.

could drop some samples off for to give to your boss when he gets

:28:42.:28:48.

back but recently we've - hello? Hung up. Well, that's that list

:28:48.:28:57.

exhausted. Oh dear. We got one out of 11.

:28:57.:29:01.

of 11. Sporting the hangover essential sunglasses worn

:29:01.:29:07.

rock stars, he moves over to meet Al at Original Recipes' first ever

:29:07.:29:13.

farmer's market. All I to do is sell some potted beef and

:29:13.:29:16.

play some drums. Who doesn't, that's the dream. Al has rallied

:29:16.:29:21.

troops to come in and it has been a huge success. Sold out, too late!

:29:21.:29:27.

Nice of you to turn up, Wills! Yes, sorry I'm late. He counts the cash

:29:27.:29:30.

and it's all looking good but is this the supermarket scale that

:29:30.:29:39.

Newcastle, a dynamic city of Newcastle, a dynamic city of

:29:39.:29:46.

culture, football and - Shields selected used cars,

:29:46.:29:51.

temporary home to Baggers Originals. It's the end of a busy day and like

:29:52.:29:56.

all good directors she is getting someone else to make her a brew.

:29:56.:30:03.

No, you didn't even come and offer me one! John made it. I like it,

:30:03.:30:07.

it's a good, original idea, reinvented by Angie and her

:30:07.:30:09.

The question is, can they concentrate on what the most

:30:09.:30:14.

important thing is. I know I bang on about it all the time but for me the

:30:14.:30:17.

Moss important thing is sales and getting your product out in front of

:30:17.:30:18.

haem. getting your product out in front of

:30:18.:30:23.

getting your product out in front of people.

:30:23.:30:27.

There's bad news from the Chinese There's bad news from the Chinese

:30:27.:30:31.

suppliers, there's going to be delay in sending the products to the

:30:31.:30:35.

UK. In my experience of dealing with foreign

:30:35.:30:39.

has happened to me so I feel wary and cautious of that. It may be

:30:39.:30:42.

they've half made it, maybe something went wrong and they are

:30:42.:30:46.

covering themselves. So that's no new supplies on the horizon and

:30:46.:30:49.

Richard is due to call catch-up. Timing that couldn't

:30:49.:30:59.
:30:59.:31:03.

worse. PHONE RINGS. Hi gorgeous! It isn't Richard by the way. No,

:31:03.:31:07.

Richard is on the train trying get through. The price has gone up

:31:07.:31:17.
:31:17.:31:18.

to 150 now. Phone Rings. Is that Baggers International.

:31:18.:31:21.

Baggers International? How things getting on?

:31:21.:31:25.

been looking at how we can get brand awareness. We don't want to go

:31:25.:31:31.

massively into a John Lewis with 39 stores or a Debenhams type with 69

:31:31.:31:36.

until we've actually trialled it. We feel we need to go a little slower.

:31:36.:31:40.

So when do you anticipate the first products being on market? We are

:31:40.:31:43.

quite a few weeks away from launching yet. We've got a following

:31:43.:31:47.

already, quite a lot with the Twitter going. We are really kind of

:31:47.:31:50.

pushing that side of it. people following you on Twitter?

:31:50.:31:56.

We've got about 500 now and on Facebook we've probably got about

:31:56.:32:03.

130. You know, it's not massive, - I say this with total respect.

:32:03.:32:07.

It's absolutely tiny and completely insignificant. Yes. Because

:32:07.:32:10.

the number of followers. It's the number of people that are

:32:10.:32:14.

actually going to read it. Yes. You need to be into literally the

:32:14.:32:19.

tens, probably hundreds of thousands for it to start to have any sort of

:32:19.:32:22.

significance. I appreciate that we are expected as a brand to be

:32:22.:32:27.

there, to have that presence. are digging yourself a hole. But

:32:27.:32:33.

there's only 130 of them. Yeah, there's only 130. And you've fallen

:32:33.:32:37.

right in it. But if we had been going for a year, there would

:32:37.:32:46.

lot more. Hello? Has he hung up? I apologise, I'm a bit of a stuck

:32:46.:32:50.

record but it's based on what our experience was. It absolutely was

:32:50.:32:55.

about getting the product into shops. Yes. Getting it on shelf.

:32:56.:32:58.

Everything is so completely secondary to that. People don't buy

:32:58.:33:02.

the PR, they don't buy the Facebook page, they buy your product,

:33:02.:33:05.

hopefully. Yeah, yeah, yeah. if it isn't there, they can't buy it

:33:05.:33:10.

and everything else is academic. Yeah. So it being on shelf is 99%

:33:10.:33:18.

of the battle. Yeah. I've lost him. I think you have. He was on a train

:33:18.:33:22.

and I could hardly hear him. He just thinks retail, retail, retail. The

:33:22.:33:27.

figures do speak for themselves. They do. We can't run until

:33:27.:33:31.

learnt to crawl. He is trying make us run faster. I totally

:33:31.:33:35.

understand why she doesn't want to go straight after the big boys, that

:33:35.:33:37.

totally makes sense. That wasn't really my frustration. She has to

:33:38.:33:42.

decide, is she going to sell mainly by the people's shops or through

:33:42.:33:46.

own online shop? There's a myth, I think, around online retailing, the

:33:46.:33:49.

idea that yes, you can build website that looks really impressive

:33:49.:33:53.

on your own computer, but how the hell does anyone hear about it? It's

:33:53.:33:57.

as hard to get people to an store as it is to get to a real

:33:57.:34:00.

store, and in fact a real store that exists on the high street, at least

:34:00.:34:09.

Lone star Ash has invented an Lone star Ash has invented an

:34:09.:34:13.

ingenious baby feeding device and Richard has given him 3 grand to

:34:13.:34:16.

develop it further. Working team for the first time,

:34:16.:34:20.

joined forces with some designers really nail the product. I

:34:20.:34:24.

this is a perfect idea, this is the best I like, but with the powder

:34:24.:34:30.

container located at the top. Come to go this stage, I feel

:34:30.:34:34.

now I've got some partners that help me bet the product to

:34:34.:34:37.

It has been challenging, has been good, and an entrepreneur

:34:37.:34:41.

has to push boundaries so I really pushed the boundaries, went out of

:34:42.:34:47.

Brilliant, good stuff. Richard Brilliant, good stuff. Richard

:34:47.:34:50.

knows it's hard for Ash to himself out there all on his

:34:50.:34:53.

he has asked him to London has set up a surprise for a bit

:34:53.:34:59.

extra motivation. Bit nervous but excited obviously. I want to see

:34:59.:35:03.

Richard. Could be for we will see what he has got to say.

:35:03.:35:08.

But it's not just Richard Reed; Ash's nervousness will go galactic

:35:08.:35:12.

when he meets business legend Richard Branson. You are going to

:35:12.:35:15.

meet a business today called My Feed, the first time he has come

:35:16.:35:20.

with an idea and essentially it's way to feed your baby on the move, a

:35:20.:35:24.

little device powder from hot water but

:35:24.:35:28.

time of feeding you put the two together and it's

:35:28.:35:35.

together and it's sterilised ready to feed your baby. That's

:35:35.:35:39.

nice idea. It is a lovely he is such a nice guy, I think

:35:39.:35:44.

people are scared it might not work for him and it might fail. Most

:35:44.:35:48.

fail at some stage and they learn so much from it. Just to meet you

:35:48.:35:54.

just going to give people that motivation to give it a go. Ash

:35:54.:36:00.

arrives looking cool, calm - right, shall we bring the victim in? And

:36:00.:36:08.

terrified. So Ash. Hi Richard, good to meet you. Sit down. The

:36:08.:36:10.

entrepreneur's entrepreneur. I've told Richard about the idea.

:36:10.:36:18.

you got it with you? Yes, yes. It's a part of me now. This is

:36:18.:36:21.

thermos, the formula goes in the top, all you do is press and then

:36:21.:36:26.

shake to make - bloody hell, is absolutely internet.

:36:26.:36:30.

is absolutely is absolutely brilliant.

:36:31.:36:33.

Would you try it in different Would you try it in different

:36:33.:36:36.

countries to begin with, or do it in one? I think I normally

:36:36.:36:43.

I can walk but I suspect you've only got so many pennies or pounds. I

:36:43.:36:46.

would, yes, just try to get a breakthrough here in the UK.

:36:46.:36:51.

most important thing with business is to fulfil a gap in the market,

:36:51.:36:55.

and there is a massive gap in the market for this. I mean,

:36:55.:36:59.

single mother with babies will one of these and there are a lot of

:36:59.:37:06.

babies born in this world. In the UK, 700,000 every year.

:37:06.:37:12.

It's worth him going for it, do you reckon? Absolutely. I am going to

:37:12.:37:15.

have six grandchildren, I will give you my address, I will have six

:37:15.:37:21.

please. Absolutely. I will them reserved. There you go mate,

:37:21.:37:26.

your first sale to Richard Branson. Doesn't get any better than that.

:37:26.:37:30.

Cheers, thank you very much. Fantastic. A good little thing,

:37:30.:37:36.

isn't it? Yes, brilliant. Branson likes my product and wants

:37:36.:37:40.

to order six. I can't believe it. Oh my God. That was amazing. I can't

:37:40.:37:45.

believe I met Richard Branson. The two Richards in one room. I'm

:37:45.:37:50.

to go for it now, this is it. My life. The My Feed is going to be my

:37:50.:37:54.

number one priority now. I'm going to make this work. With only one

:37:54.:37:59.

week to go the Original Recipes gone have found an exciting new stockist

:37:59.:38:04.

so they head to the hungry shoppers of - no, next one. No, not that one.

:38:04.:38:12.

No, no, oh back one, yes, the Chatsworth House farm shop, yay! Al

:38:12.:38:17.

has rallied the troops again and cousin Anna has stepped in to help.

:38:17.:38:21.

Not very busy, is it? This was the dream, to be in this shop by the

:38:21.:38:25.

of the year and as I say, 11 weeks in and we are already here. It's

:38:25.:38:31.

crazy. Would you like to try some potted beef? We've sold a couple,

:38:31.:38:34.

but it's not that busy so hopefully when it picks up a little bit,

:38:34.:38:39.

will boost sales. If we can get rid of all that, I would be happy.

:38:39.:38:47.

Potted beef. Ooh. This is the proper stuff though. Have as much as you

:38:47.:38:54.

want. Take the biggest piece! Will and Al with their Original Recipes

:38:54.:38:57.

have got a good product. I want to know if they are thinking big, and

:38:57.:39:02.

by big I mean supermarkets, because they seemed reluctant when I first

:39:02.:39:07.

mentioned them so I am sending in a business expert to give them

:39:07.:39:12.

about the industry. Punters are turning up now and no

:39:12.:39:20.

nonsense Martin has turned up too. Welcome to the Chatsworth Farm shop.

:39:20.:39:26.

Martin has spotted a problem, pricing. What would that sell at?

:39:26.:39:32.

�5.20? �5.20. The little jam jars all sold out. OK, now that's

:39:32.:39:36.

interesting. They've both got the same contents but you are charging

:39:36.:39:39.

�3.50 for that - You are selling the same product at two different

:39:39.:39:44.

prices? People are saying they've got loads of these jars at home.

:39:44.:39:46.

don't think they are, I think they are saying I want to spend that

:39:47.:39:51.

amount of money, not that amount of money, which is good for you because

:39:51.:39:54.

- they've sold out, they will go now. But you are being defensive.

:39:54.:39:59.

I'm saying that's good because has sold, empty, gone, finished, at

:39:59.:40:03.

�3.50. You sold it at a price that works for you, everyone is happy.

:40:03.:40:08.

Is it just me or did that feel like two minds not meeting? Back at base,

:40:08.:40:13.

it's more of the same. Where you like to be in three years' time?

:40:13.:40:17.

I think we would like to be in premium outlets, motorway service

:40:17.:40:23.

stations as a snack. Motorway service stations are arguably not

:40:23.:40:26.

the most premium. The one thing you are avoiding saying

:40:27.:40:30.

supermarkets. You haven't said and said lots of others.

:40:30.:40:33.

retailers. The problem with supermarkets, we've

:40:33.:40:36.

other people that they will drive the price down and if they do,

:40:36.:40:39.

they will drive the quality down. Obviously I have been asked to come

:40:39.:40:43.

down here by a man who sells lots of things to supermarkets. I sense

:40:43.:40:49.

den want to do that. Some people have very nice businesses just

:40:49.:40:53.

selling in farmers' markets and good luck to them but I imagine that

:40:53.:40:57.

isn't the slight of business that Richard would want. Slightly

:40:57.:41:01.

defensive, but I wonder how would work in terms of when Richard

:41:01.:41:05.

had ideas they didn't agree with. I imagine that's a big - a bit of

:41:05.:41:10.

problem. Back in Newcastle, Jessica has told the rest of the Baggers

:41:10.:41:17.

team to meet her. She has got some good news. Hi! They've arrived.

:41:17.:41:21.

Shall we sit down? The new Baggers supplies have finally arrived

:41:21.:41:25.

the way from China. The boys the girls and the labels

:41:25.:41:30.

nice on the front. Oh, gorgeous! You are not going to lose

:41:30.:41:36.

your child in them, are you? Not sure about the fit, Natalie.

:41:36.:41:40.

Baggers are back. One worry I about baggers is they don't

:41:40.:41:43.

properly focused on trying to sign up a big customer for launch,

:41:43.:41:45.

whereas if you have something that then it's going to

:41:45.:41:49.

both awareness and sales, two things that Baggers could really

:41:50.:41:55.

right now. With only a week to go, Angie and Jessica get a meeting with

:41:55.:42:00.

owners of a new chain of stores mothers and babies. Nice and big,

:42:00.:42:07.

isn't it? Yes, fantastic. Can you imagine the Baggers pod just here?

:42:07.:42:13.

These are new samples that we've had These are new samples that we've had

:42:13.:42:16.

back so they are a little bit work in progress so there's a

:42:16.:42:19.

tweakings that we are going to be doing. Brilliant. Seems positive.

:42:19.:42:24.

So when it's all wet and dirty, all goes in the bag, and then the

:42:24.:42:28.

swimwear we've got - for girls we've got the zip in there, when they

:42:28.:42:33.

wet from swimming they all push the little bag. That is excellent. I

:42:33.:42:37.

love this idea. I never have anywhere to put the towels.

:42:37.:42:40.

Brilliant. I don't either. I that would work really well in our

:42:40.:42:43.

shops, definitely. You think something you would be interested

:42:43.:42:47.

in? Absolutely. We've got an order form there if you would like to

:42:48.:42:53.

place an order with us today. Get in there, girls! Baggers have bagged

:42:53.:42:59.

their first retail deal in 22 years. Da da! Yes, fantastic, our first

:42:59.:43:06.

ever order with Baggers Originals. Well done you. Well done you! And

:43:06.:43:11.

like all good Geordie girls, Baggers Originals celebrate in style by

:43:11.:43:17.

getting wasted. Yay! It just to show that it's just a fantastic

:43:17.:43:22.

product, that we knew it was, and it has come to life again. Working

:43:22.:43:26.

team has been, you know, a new of challenges, you know, it has been

:43:26.:43:29.

different for me and I've lot from that. It has been really

:43:29.:43:37.

Someone who hasn't got a team around Someone who hasn't got a team around

:43:37.:43:40.

him is Ash. He has got a full-time job and he is carrying the whole

:43:40.:43:44.

business on his shoulders. It's pitch time, and he has lined up

:43:44.:43:49.

big player in the baby market. Bit nervous but it's a case of making

:43:49.:43:57.

sure that Mamas and Papas like the production, get the thumbs up for

:43:57.:44:04.

it. I'm not feeling very well. a good time to be ill, but

:44:04.:44:12.

as the line-up isn't a set of gorgeous girls - uh oh. So you

:44:12.:44:16.

carry this all when you are out, and in a moving car pouring powder

:44:16.:44:21.

the bottle is kind of messy so I've developed the My Feed so

:44:21.:44:24.

straightaway, parents going out, don't need to carry three items. One

:44:24.:44:29.

item, so you have a portable you are carrying one item. Ash is

:44:29.:44:32.

someone I really admire, he has come up with a great idea and is doing it

:44:32.:44:37.

by himself and riding solo like is much harder. I was lucky, I did

:44:37.:44:40.

Innocent in a group with my two closest friends, so Ash is

:44:40.:44:44.

have to show to me he has got what I believe he is capable of. I've

:44:44.:44:48.

designed it so that the plunger remains suspended in the

:44:48.:44:53.

There's not a product on the market that does what this does. Ash is

:44:53.:45:00.

having to do a hard sell here. Will they take the bait? Will there be

:45:00.:45:03.

any opportunities for exclusivity? We can look into that further,

:45:03.:45:08.

obviously depending on volumes and how you look to launch it.

:45:08.:45:13.

that's something you would be interested in? Yes. Sir Matt, Ash

:45:13.:45:20.

- smooth. He did it. They liked it? Excellent, you must be so proud of

:45:20.:45:24.

yourself. Yes, I am happy. They mentioned for them having

:45:24.:45:28.

exclusivity which is good because can negotiate further, so yes, it

:45:28.:45:35.

went very well. Oh my gosh, that means they really liked it! We

:45:35.:45:40.

see what happens. Fingers crossed. I'm so happy for you, well done lad!

:45:40.:45:45.

Oh, thanks. No, I'm not feeling too well. The past two days have been

:45:45.:45:48.

very difficult but business is business, you've got to step up to

:45:48.:45:52.

the market, but I came I did a great pitch and they liked

:45:52.:45:55.

the product. So it has been difficult but it has been well

:45:55.:45:59.

it. In a matter of days these young entrepreneurs will have to sit in

:45:59.:46:03.

front of Richard and prove that each have what this takes to

:46:03.:46:08.

Al and Will have got meetings set up Al and Will have got meetings set up

:46:08.:46:12.

with premium outlets like. Thorn bridge Brewery and

:46:12.:46:16.

and mace op, but will they take that giant step to bring their potted

:46:16.:46:21.

beef to the market? We've met so many people who have loved what we

:46:21.:46:24.

are doing and what we are about and that's inspiring, to keep going.

:46:24.:46:27.

Baggers are talking to big retailers, but will they secure

:46:27.:46:32.

deal in time to convince Richard that their product will have a

:46:32.:46:38.

global appeal? It's amazing how connection is there with Baggers

:46:38.:46:40.

the product and then with us personally, but to make sure

:46:40.:46:44.

the customer is going to connect relate with it and they are going to

:46:44.:46:49.

buy into it. One man band Ash is working hard to finish his design

:46:49.:46:52.

he can get his baby feeder high street. But will Richard

:46:52.:46:57.

he has got what it takes to hit big time? I would like to

:46:57.:47:01.

something where I go back and have programme where I do help people

:47:01.:47:05.

back in poor countries, where I'm from in Bangladesh hopefully.

:47:05.:47:09.

Richard is offering a game changing level of investment. That will

:47:10.:47:14.

transform the prospect of all businesses. So this is a tough

:47:14.:47:18.

decision. I've got a couple of family businesses, who are

:47:18.:47:21.

essentially starting over so they've got to convince me that they've

:47:21.:47:25.

learnt from past experiences, and then I've got Ash who is a young

:47:26.:47:29.

designer, who has got no experience of business at all, saying "Take a

:47:29.:47:35.

bet on me", whichever way you look at it, it's risky. It's decision

:47:36.:47:42.

time at Richard's HQ. Can any of these new businesses persuade

:47:42.:47:48.

Richard that they are worthy of further investment?

:47:49.:47:51.

I think we've done as best as we I think we've done as best as we

:47:51.:47:55.

possibly could do, you know, in the past seven weeks we've really pushed

:47:55.:48:00.

ourselves to do as much as possible. Nervous, excited about today. The

:48:00.:48:04.

money is required now really. can't really go any further

:48:04.:48:09.

the investment. It would be fantastic to have Richard invest in

:48:09.:48:12.

our business and to have him on board would be a great credit to

:48:12.:48:22.

They wait while Richard pores over They wait while Richard pores over

:48:22.:48:24.

their business plans. When there's major money to invest, it's time

:48:24.:48:33.

get serious. Have you noticed change? Yes, Granny Mary's. But

:48:33.:48:37.

what shall I call you because your business plan says Original Recipes,

:48:37.:48:42.

but also Granny Mary's. What is name? Original Recipes is the

:48:42.:48:47.

company name and Granny Mary's is this particular brand so the

:48:47.:48:53.

would be f we create further recipes in the future we would keep the name

:48:53.:48:58.

there but change that. But you would want me to say I met the guys

:48:58.:49:02.

from Granny Mary's potted beef, Original Recipes? It

:49:02.:49:04.

Original Recipes that we probably want or is that

:49:04.:49:11.

complicated? Well, I'm confused. Yes. So loads of progress then?

:49:11.:49:15.

Yes, a lot of progress. worked very hard and

:49:15.:49:18.

ourselves as much as we possibly to get the results that we needed to

:49:18.:49:21.

prove that Baggers is going to be really successful and give it

:49:21.:49:25.

couple of months and we will be there, out in the market. Yes,

:49:25.:49:28.

well, I really believe that. The product are different as well to

:49:28.:49:32.

products that our competitors are already out there. The fabric is

:49:32.:49:35.

totally different. There isn't anything quite like it on the

:49:35.:49:40.

market. So when will the first Baggers be ready? End of September.

:49:40.:49:46.

How much does it cost to get that first prototype? Obviously the

:49:46.:49:51.

investment, obviously you need I think 25,000 for development and

:49:51.:49:54.

towards - if you add it all together it's a big sum, I think 130 grand or

:49:54.:49:57.

something in total, and obviously the more units you make,

:49:57.:50:03.

it kind of spreads out the cost. And what feedback have you had?

:50:03.:50:08.

meetings I've had with Mamas and Papas, they were very impressed and

:50:08.:50:11.

said they would look to launch and they were talking about

:50:11.:50:15.

exclusivity which shows me they were interested. They wouldn't say that

:50:15.:50:19.

if they weren't interested. they would, mate. Every retailer

:50:19.:50:25.

asks for exclusivity. My advice is don't ever to give it the. No, no.

:50:25.:50:28.

Our big break would be trying move out of our local area, coming

:50:28.:50:31.

down south, that would be the big thing because it has never sold

:50:31.:50:36.

there before and next Tuesday we meeting with Fortnum & Masons,

:50:36.:50:40.

sending some samples down for them. They loved the product. Who have

:50:40.:50:47.

you actually signed up as opposed to had good feedback from? Chatsworth?

:50:47.:50:51.

16 stores in the bag at the moment. Since we last spoke? Yes, and

:50:51.:50:54.

recently done a deal with a brewery called Thorn

:50:54.:50:58.

called Thornbury's Brewy. Have you heard of them? Could we

:50:58.:51:01.

heard of them? Could heard of them? Could. Could we talk

:51:01.:51:05.

about the first time round this is the comeback tour. How will

:51:05.:51:09.

it be different this time? We need investment from day one, we need

:51:09.:51:13.

money in the bank to support cash flow. Also our

:51:13.:51:17.

well as a team to run a business now. At the time Mum didn't have any

:51:17.:51:19.

business experience behind her and the knowledge and experience you

:51:19.:51:23.

have now gained and first time, as a whole team we

:51:23.:51:27.

just all ready to go for it time. What would you do if I don't

:51:27.:51:31.

invest? We will go ahead anyway, we will get another investor. But

:51:31.:51:35.

want you to invest, Richard you have got that knowledge of

:51:35.:51:38.

taking a brand that is virtually unknown to something that's massive.

:51:38.:51:41.

Where are you at? Are you this full-time, have you given

:51:41.:51:44.

your day job? Yes, what happened was obviously I was doing this with

:51:44.:51:47.

my full-time job and I made a decision now, I believe that I can

:51:47.:51:51.

get this through, get to market, so I've put my notice in and I'm

:51:51.:51:54.

working as full-time now so my stage is getting investment

:51:54.:51:58.

this going. That's what I'm going to be working on. To get from drawings

:51:58.:52:02.

to working prototype to finished thing, to get it to shelf,

:52:02.:52:09.

huge amount of work to be done, there is a lot of risk. I'm

:52:09.:52:19.
:52:19.:52:21.

to take a few minutes just to have think about it, if that's OK.

:52:21.:52:23.

Baggers on for comfort. I think they Baggers on for comfort. I think they

:52:23.:52:29.

can make decent money from doing it. I think they are a really likable,

:52:29.:52:35.

energetic team, and they've shown real progress. On the flip side, I'm

:52:35.:52:41.

not sure it's the world's biggest idea.

:52:41.:52:45.

Gave it a go. Don't think - I think Gave it a go. Don't think - I think

:52:45.:52:50.

I got the timings a bit wrong. Will and Al are a safe bet.

:52:50.:52:54.

credible guys business. They haven't convinced me

:52:54.:52:59.

that they are really about taking it national and making it available

:52:59.:53:09.
:53:09.:53:11.

Ash is a guy that I really respect. Ash is a guy that I really respect.

:53:11.:53:17.

He is out there battling by himself and I haven't yet met a parent who

:53:17.:53:22.

doesn't think it's a good idea. It is, however, still pretty much just

:53:22.:53:32.
:53:32.:53:34.

Sorry to keep you waiting. OK. Sorry to keep you waiting. OK.

:53:34.:53:39.

think you've done loads of good things, right? You are such a

:53:39.:53:43.

likable team. The reality the nation is going to be buying

:53:43.:53:48.

some Baggers Originals. Whether the right investor, I've got to ask

:53:48.:53:56.

myself, am I really excited by idea? Do I feel that I can be the

:53:56.:54:03.

best type of investor for have? And is the market as big as

:54:03.:54:13.

you guys say it is? Unfortunately I get to a no on those last three. So

:54:13.:54:20.

I'm not going to invest. OK. OK. I think the fit between who I am and

:54:20.:54:24.

what you guys are going to do, think there's better investors out

:54:24.:54:30.

there for you, quite frankly. Can you put us in touch with them? Ha

:54:30.:54:35.

ha. You are going to do it anyway, right and I really can't wait to

:54:35.:54:39.

you make a success of it. Thank so much for your time. Thanks

:54:39.:54:45.

your help. Nice to see you again. Thank you. I feel I've made

:54:45.:54:48.

right decision. I think they are going to do it anyway . I'm not

:54:48.:54:53.

excited by it and I want to invest in things I'm excited by. You know,

:54:53.:54:56.

in my life I quite like getting a no because it just makes me that

:54:56.:54:59.

more determined. It's the nature of being an entrepreneur.

:54:59.:55:03.

are going to get no's and you just have to pick yourself up. This is

:55:03.:55:06.

just the beginning for Baggers many just the beginning for Baggers

:55:06.:55:13.

In my heart what I believe is that In my heart what I believe is that

:55:13.:55:22.

you have got this great opportunity for your family business - to get

:55:22.:55:28.

to be that nationally available, everyday purchase, but I'm not sure

:55:28.:55:31.

that's really what you are about and it may be that that's not even

:55:31.:55:38.

this is about. Weirdly, I don't think you should want me to invest,

:55:38.:55:44.

and I'm going to choose not to. OK. Because I really respect what you

:55:45.:55:48.

guys are about and I to come in and start trying to sort

:55:48.:55:52.

of push you down a route think that's not really where your

:55:52.:55:56.

heart lies. That's understandable. We respect your

:55:56.:56:01.

honesty about that. Well, think of me as a guy that will always be very

:56:01.:56:10.

happy to receive samples, totally. I think he is absolutely spot

:56:10.:56:14.

are just not quite well enough in our vision. We are still

:56:14.:56:17.

happy, you know. We love our business and that's all we

:56:17.:56:25.

Thanks for waiting, mate. Longest Thanks for waiting, mate. Longest

:56:25.:56:28.

wait of my life. Sorry, I don't do that on purpose. It's because I

:56:28.:56:33.

know, erm, how much you've put into this, I want to give it

:56:33.:56:36.

consideration. Because, you are a serious guy and I

:56:36.:56:43.

respect what you've done. I have some concerns. We are right at the

:56:43.:56:48.

beginning of the whole process of going from idea to reality. So it's

:56:48.:56:57.

just, it's going to be a with lots of risks and issues.

:56:57.:57:02.

It just won't be easy. You've got to It just won't be easy. You've got to

:57:02.:57:04.

ask yourself: do you believe in the product, and do you believe

:57:04.:57:14.
:57:14.:57:17.

And in this case, I believe in both. And in this case, I believe in both.

:57:17.:57:23.

So I'm going to invest. Oh God! going to put in �65,000.

:57:23.:57:27.

Thank you very much, Richard. Honestly, it means everything to me.

:57:27.:57:31.

I'm just so happy and I'm going to make this work, I'm going to work

:57:31.:57:36.

even harder now, push up to gear 5 with this, steam ahead and get the

:57:36.:57:41.

product to market as soon as possible. All those months of hard

:57:41.:57:48.

work and waiting, it has finally paid off. I believe Ash will keep

:57:48.:57:54.

going, he won't give in lightly. That's an absolute essential trait

:57:54.:58:04.

of an entrepreneur, an inability stop.

:58:04.:58:07.

Next time, Richard takes a punt on Next time, Richard takes a punt on

:58:07.:58:11.

three more ideas. They are a round peg in a square hole. I

:58:11.:58:15.

to be investing. The entrepreneurs have a tough time. You are not even

:58:15.:58:19.

worth their 30 seconds it would to say no thank you, and that feels

:58:19.:58:24.

like crap. And Richard is put difficult position. This is your

:58:24.:58:26.

decision, you've got to decide whether you want to resign

:58:26.:58:36.
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