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That is awesome!

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Richard Reed chose three businesses to put to the test.

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-Nice one, mate!

-The race for investment was on.

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You're not even worth the 30 seconds it would take to say,

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"No thank you."

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It's not guiding the lap strap the way it should be.

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Only one impressed enough for Richard to buy in.

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I want to give you the shot of doing it. I'll invest £25,000.

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Thank you.

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Which three ideas will he gamble on this time?

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Meet Richard Reed.

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The smoothie behind Innocent Drinks.

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He's Britain's hottest entrepreneur and he's on the hunt for the business stars of the future.

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It is a tough time at the moment to get a job.

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Do not rule out the possibility that you could create your own. It could be the time for you to give it a go.

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He has set aside up to a million to invest,

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and went nationwide to get you to apply for a slice of it.

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We will help a whole new generation of entrepreneurs set up their own business.

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Now, 500 hopefuls will get the chance to pitch their ideas to Richard.

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What do you make of that? It's just brilliant.

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Each week he will pick the best three...

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How good is the idea, and do I believe that you can make it?

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..to put through their paces...

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Would I be right in saying you're overcompensating for some of your team?

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We can't run until we've learnt to crawl.

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Everything I have done is gone and nothing works.

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This is the dream.

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..before deciding who is good enough to win a once-in-a-lifetime investment.

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The business plan was pretty shonky.

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I thought we'd agreed that you would build a working proto-type.

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You are on a journey. I think you've come a long way,

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But that doesn't make a business. I'm not going to invest.

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An empty warehouse in East London is the home for Richard's expo.

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500 hopefuls will pitch to Richard and try to win his business backing.

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I go into that room excited

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because it is people who have got things that they care about and who are passionate.

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That is an exciting thing to be part of.

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From the hundreds he will see, Richard will only select the top three.

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It all comes down to their 60-second pitch.

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I want something that I can believe is going to have some positive effect

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on the people that set up the business,

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on the people on the receiving end of the business.

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I want something positive and successful as well.

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These start-ups know if they impress Richard, they will be on the fast-track to investment.

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With so much at stake, the prospect of pitching has sent some a little loopy.

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I'm obsessed with rubber ducks.

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Nama-nama-nama!

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It does sound a bit weird.

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We will make you money!

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LAUGHTER

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-Was I putting you off?

-I don't know!

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SQUEAKING

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-We're very much the same as you Richard.

-We're on the same path!

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OK! Moving on! Time for a nice cup of tea...with chocolate in it?

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I have been told I have to come and try your chocolate teas.

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-I made you one.

-Perfect timing! This is...?

-Peppermint and chocolate.

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I hope you like it.

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It's good. It is loose leaf tea with bits of chocolate that melt, right?

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Correct, Richard. Chocolate teas.

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I'm guessing you might be sisters.

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-We are, yeah.

-And you are?

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-I'm Stella's boyfriend.

-Cool! You are going to do it as a threesome, are you?

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I'm not going to go there!

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We started off just us two, but Andrew is a salesman.

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This will come down so much to the selling. Where will I buy it from?

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Initially, it will be local markets. We want to grow the brand and the name there.

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The name is brilliant given what it is. Have you got it trade marked?

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Not at the moment, no.

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If you are even half serious about it, tomorrow get yourself down to the trade markers

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and get the application in.

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If you want to make a chocolate tea business, get that name, Choclateas.

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Get it trade marked as quickly as you can.

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I'm taking my free sample with me.

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-Nice to meet you.

-Well done!

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Even millionaires like a free sample!

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I hope Richard saw scope for our idea and business.

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-We really believe it is a really good company.

-Yeah.

-Fingers crossed!

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Whether they have done enough to bag investment is up to Richard.

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He's already off chatting to a load of Muppets. I mean puppets.

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Hartbeeps! Hello, hello. Hello.

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Who is this?

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-My hands have been dying to meet you!

-I've been dying to meet them too.

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Start me from the top. What is your business?

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We produce really fun and funky music for babies and young children.

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-You're not selling any of these?

-This is our brand.

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What is it that you are?

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-Music classes.

-Got it!

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Educational music class. It is very difficult to explain to people.

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-I get it now. Does the music drive you nuts?

-No.

-Good answer!

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Just makes you high as a kite.

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You are like the Zumba of kiddy...

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Exactly. You've got it!

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I think he liked the brand,

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-and when he said you are the Zumba of what you do, children's music, he got it.

-Yeah.

-Straight away.

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He may have got it, but will he want it?

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To give him hand in deciding the stuffing from the stunning,

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Richard's brought along his entrepreneurial pals.

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Between them they have more experience of launching new products

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than you have had hot dinners.

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They are the eyes and the ears on the expo floor

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and winning them over could be a fast-track ticket to Richard's cash.

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Which could be a good thing because this week he plans on getting wasted.

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How alcoholic is that?

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Look, Richard! Wine sorbet!

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-I love wines and sorbets.

-Nice!

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He's not the only one. Jo has it had too.

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-We are looking to sell cocktail kits on-line.

-Can I try it?

-Of course!

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OK, yeah.

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With Pimms? Awesome!

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Steady on, Richard. It's got booze in it.

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-Mmm. Oh my God, that is amazing!

-Each serving is a shot of alcohol.

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-Everyone loves ice-cream. Everyone loves alcohol.

-Specially you, eh, Jo?!

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-It's quite giddy if you have a big serving.

-Giddy or drunk?!

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-In that one we've got cherry.

-Alcohol, is that right?

-Yeah.

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Has it got lots of alcohol in it?

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15%.

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OK.

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Happily.

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Ooh!

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Am I going to get drunk? Is that what is happening here?

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-That's what's happening, Richard.

-Lovely to meet you.

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OK. She's finished.

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Would you like to try some Pimms before you go?

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One more, it would be rude not to. Oh, you lush!

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Am I drunk? I think it is starting to have an effect.

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Maybe. Nice moves, Dickie. He is loaded!

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Now completely leathered, but conscious of his sleek physique,

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Richard might be up for low calorie vino.

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We are Skinny Vines.

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We are a low-calorie wine business,

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with 25% lower calories than an average glass of wine...

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..that still takes great.

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We have been giving out samples to all the other competitors so they can slur their words.

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I think it's Richard who'll be slurring!

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I wouldn't know that was any less calorie than a regular wine.

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How will it be made? And where will it be sold?

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We source high quality base wine.

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We pass it through a filter by way of reverse osmosis.

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That takes away the calories.

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-In this country?

-New Zealand.

-Where's the consumer going to buy it?

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Ideally, our vision is to walk into any Tesco any Sainsbury's and buy a full range of Skinny Vines.

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So many businesses worry about marketing, when actually what you worry about is selling.

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It is about how you get the listings in the big wine chains and supermarkets.

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Who is doing that?

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-We all are, currently, I guess.

-Yep.

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Good. By the way, this is all positive.

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I just need to know there is someone with that fire in their belly to get out there and sell this.

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That is the life blood of any business. OK? Good to meet you. It's delicious!

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Richard, what will your mother think of all this drinking?

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We will have to stage an intervention. There she is. Hi, Mum!

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From mums with drunk sons, to sons with inventive mums,

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Grace has found one son who's brought his mum and a product that she thinks is worth backing.

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A portable baby pen.

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But can baby-faced William give birth to a winning pitch?

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It is my mum's company.

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Right.

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She has gone for a wander around the stalls.

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He looks terrified!

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You're on the spot then!

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Sell, my son.

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It is all about a safe space for a baby

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that you can leave, pick up with one arm.

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It folds as you pick it up, and you can keep the baby in one arm,

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carry the play pen in the other.

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Is this your mum?

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Yes, it is.

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Hello! Sorry, I have got a handful of peanuts as a sample from someone I have just collected.

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But has she got the nuts for the pitch?

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This is very much a working model so you can see how it works.

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The basic concept is for people who are busy looking after their children,

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and sometimes they need a safe place to put them down.

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Is it very portable as well, in that it concertinas?

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You can do it while you're holding a baby.

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This is a really good idea. I can see there is a need for this.

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This is fantastic also if you are travelling or going to granny's house for the day

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and you just want something portable.

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It is a really, really strong idea.

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Mother and son - what a team!

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I am hoping that she doesn't use him to demonstrate the play pen!

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But there are plenty of other young guns here

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who have left their mums at home.

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This is actually the second business that I've, er, started up.

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I founded it in my dorm room at my university...

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We're both students, third-years, at Loughborough University.

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We're Young Ones, we're premium suppliers in the whole of the UK.

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What I do is, I design and sort innovative products

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and take them to market.

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-And you are how old?

-I've just turned 18.

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-Congratulations.

-Thank you!

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Oh, Felicity! Get the mistletoe!

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With only three places left and no-one on his short list yet,

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Richard calls in the experts to sort the hot tickets

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from the cold turkeys.

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What's been everyone's top ideas today?

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-The portable play pen.

-Yep.

-The idea's sound,

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-it's patented, the technology...

-Yep.

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..and the product idea absolutely stacks up.

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She literally... It is a prototype which she knocked up for this show.

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-Oh, so it's a prototype?

-Yeah, it's not...

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-It's not the finished article.

-Right.

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I think one of the consistent things that I saw is that

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every single one of them was passionate about their business

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-and their product and their idea.

-Yeah.

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Wicked. Thank you so much, guys.

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-Cheers, Richard.

-Little team hug before we go...?

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He's not!

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Oh, no, he is!

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That's the boozy sorbet for you right there!

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THEY ALL LAUGH

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Richard has just a few hours left to pick his final three,

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so he's out on the prowl once again.

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These two think they've got it in the bag.

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That's James on the left, being helped by James on the right.

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That's not going to be confusing at all(!)

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Nice blazers, boys!

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-Hi, boys, I'm Richard.

-James, nice to meet you.

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-How's it going?

-Hi, James.

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-Tell me about it - what are we doing?

-It's called Elephant Branded, only

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launched in the UK three months ago.

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We get local people in Africa And Asia to hand-make

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products from locally-recycled material.

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-This bag, made in Cambodia out of recycled cement bags.

-Yep.

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We also have wallets and purses.

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It's one for one, so for every bag we sell,

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we donate a school kit back to a child in Africa or Asia.

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People know where it came from, the

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-difference it makes to somebody's life by producing it.

-Yeah.

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I'm loving the ethics, that's totally in our sweet spot.

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-Any idea of numbers?

-We can only produce 500 units a month

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at the moment - every month we sell out.

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We're currently on a waiting list programme.

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I'm trying to get my head round the scalability of it, though.

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OK. We want to use the same principles

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-as in our little co-operative in Cambodia...

-Yeah.

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but apply those principles to new locations.

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Is this your full-time thing or something you do on the side?

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No, we're both at the University of Bath, studying architecture.

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-Yeah.

-But it's sort of taken off,

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and hopefully it will be...

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What would I pay you to buy it as the punter?

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OK, so, that is our most expensive product,

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which is £27.99.

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And our wallets and purses are £12.99.

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-Well done, boys. Nice to meet you.

-Thank you very much.

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It's a quasi social enterprise. He's partly in it for the money,

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he's partly in it to do good -

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he's my kind of entrepreneur, quite frankly.

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He's impressed with Elephant Branded, but there's been

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plenty of white elephants

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in the hundreds of other pitches he's heard.

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Porridge Power, yes!

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It's like a word search, but where it differs,

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there's only one word to find in the whole thing.

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Open up the lid - need to be sick...

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-We want to be a shop and cafe...

-Right.

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-..where dogs and humans can kind of dine together.

-Yeah.

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We're talking bubble gum-flavoured chicken, berry-flavoured,

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-mango-flavoured chicken...

-It's an awful idea.

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Richard's heard hundreds of pitches from some of Britain's

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finest start-up talent. Like all good things, though,

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their expo must end.

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OK, ladies and gentlemen, I'm afraid pitching is over!

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HOOTER SOUNDS

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But I want to say a massive, massive thank you

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to everyone that's come down.

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It's been for me, personally, an amazing, exciting experience.

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Every idea in this room has had serious merit.

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There isn't a person in this room that can't walk out

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thinking that they definitely could make it.

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A massive thank you to everyone for coming down,

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and a bit round of applause for everyone in the room.

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EVERYONE APPLAUDS

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As the expo hall empties, these aspiring entrepreneurs

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all hope they'll be on Richard's hot list.

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For Richard, it's going to be a long night -

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picking his final three is not going to be easy.

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The reality is, there's no way at all you can fund all of them.

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So, from the 500, I'm getting down to a few.

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I've got my board over there that's got my favourites on so far,

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so I'm just having one last look.

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I don't want to miss a single person.

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I've got to get my last three, and it's so difficult.

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It's decision day for Richard.

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From the 500 entrepreneurs

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he's seen at the expo, he's already backed 15,

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with up to £5,000 each in seed capital.

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He's only got three places left.

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I can give them up to £5,000 to kick start the business.

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That's what seed capital is all about.

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But with over 400 ideas still in the offing,

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who's he going to pick?

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First up it's architecture student, James,

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and his ethical bag company, Elephant Branded.

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James met business partner, Tim,

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just a few months ago at Bath University.

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I did a course called ethical marketing,

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and at the end of that lecture,

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James got up and did his bit about Elephant Branded.

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It was a bit cheesy, but the rest is history.

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Because there's only two of us

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and it's going so rapidly, we do need help.

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My housemates, I've got to give them quite a lot of respect,

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especially sometimes when we have

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in our living room, I don't know, 600 bags,

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that have to go out the next day,

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and we all muck in in getting them out.

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I think we see far too much of each other.

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-Definitely too much of each other!

-I've seen James more

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than my girlfriend in the last couple of months,

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which is always a worrying sign!

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I think we both have different skills sets.

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I'm more ideas,

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and Tim brings me back and says, "No, we can't do that!"

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James is a bit more of a dreamer, aims high.

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Which is always important. Never knock that.

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But I'm much more of a cynic.

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Is there a way to make money out of this as well as doing good?

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We do do a lot of good, but we do make a profit out of it.

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-Yeah, and I think that's great.

-We have a good margin.

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From what I remember,

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you're at college at the moment, training to be an architect?

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I think architecture has given me the skills

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to be able to set it up.

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To be able to deal with marketing and branding,

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and to be able to think holistically,

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-but also in the details.

-Yeah.

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What I would like to do long term is this, really.

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How much money is it you're asking for at this stage,

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and what would you use it for?

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We'd be looking for about £3,700.

0:17:350:17:37

Because we have so much demand,

0:17:370:17:39

I want to scale, basically, and use the same model

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that we used in Cambodia,

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but apply it to a new enterprise in Uganda.

0:17:430:17:46

How about...I'll do it for £3,500 at this stage.

0:17:460:17:48

-Yeah.

-You can work with that?

0:17:480:17:50

Yeah, I'm sure we can.

0:17:500:17:52

I need to see...

0:17:520:17:54

sales, you know? How is it selling?

0:17:540:17:56

And what I especially love is if that money

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is going to go directly to change,

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to bring on Uganda communities.

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That's a brilliant sort of thing,

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to understand what the money is going for.

0:18:060:18:08

-So delighted to put it in for that. OK. All right.

-Thank you very much!

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-Done!

-Pleasure.

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Absolutely thrilled.

0:18:130:18:15

Over the moon, as it were!

0:18:150:18:16

One down, two to go.

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This is no time to call your mum, Richard!

0:18:190:18:21

Ah, it's his next entrepreneur, Catherine,

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with her portable baby unit.

0:18:240:18:26

-'Hello?'

-Catherine?

0:18:260:18:28

Hello, it's really good to talk to you.

0:18:280:18:29

Welcome to Jersey,

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where millionaires come to dodge their taxes,

0:18:320:18:35

and cows make lovely cream.

0:18:350:18:36

It's also home to mum of five, Catherine Curtis.

0:18:380:18:43

I started developing this idea, this concept, in 2007.

0:18:430:18:50

She might not be a millionaire yet, but a girl can dream.

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I have dreamt about this, and lived with it, day after day.

0:18:530:18:57

Occasionally I have thought,

0:18:570:18:59

"Why am I spending so much time thinking about this?"

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With Richard's help,

0:19:030:19:05

she wants her portable baby playpen to fly the nest.

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I have to say, just talking to my friends who have got children,

0:19:090:19:13

the idea of a portable playpen really was sort of

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getting big double thumbs up from everyone.

0:19:160:19:19

Great!

0:19:190:19:20

I would be prepared to put up £3,000.

0:19:200:19:23

OK, that sounds very good to me!

0:19:230:19:26

To go specifically to getting that manufacturer

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that's signed up to make it,

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some retailers that are up for stocking it.

0:19:310:19:34

-Yeah, OK, great.

-'Brilliant.'

0:19:340:19:36

Just one place left,

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but who's it going to be?

0:19:380:19:39

It's Skinny Vines, with their low calorie booze!

0:19:410:19:46

-Hi!

-Hi!

0:19:460:19:47

Meet the Kiwis from Down Under, Nicole, Logan and Tania.

0:19:470:19:52

We are Skinny Vines.

0:19:520:19:55

Our story kind of tells a tale of three friends

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who had an idea at the pub one night.

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We tend to spend quite a bit of our time at the pub.

0:20:000:20:03

They're willing to take that leap of faith, give up their day jobs,

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and really sell this wine that they believe so much in.

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In ten or 15 years time, I'm hoping

0:20:110:20:14

we'll be the number one UK low calorie wine on the shelf.

0:20:140:20:18

Logan is our voice of reason.

0:20:180:20:20

Nicole and I would like a jet

0:20:200:20:22

and all that kind of stuff, and Logan grounds us.

0:20:220:20:25

So, tell me, how's business?

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You asked a really good question,

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who's going to be the sales person in the UK.

0:20:330:20:35

-I'm putting my hand up.

-Good for you!

0:20:350:20:37

And I love the idea of surrounding yourself

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by people who have got the experience.

0:20:400:20:42

That's just a brilliant idea.

0:20:420:20:43

For years I've been talking about

0:20:430:20:45

someone's got to do a low calorie wine,

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so it was really exciting for me to come across you guys,

0:20:470:20:51

It exists. You've already got it.

0:20:510:20:52

So I definitely want to back you guys for the next stage.

0:20:540:20:57

Yes! Amazing.

0:20:570:20:59

I'm excited by the team, I'm excited by the product,

0:20:590:21:03

I'm excited by the opportunity.

0:21:030:21:05

It's now about real confirmation

0:21:050:21:07

-of retailer interest.

-Yeah.

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I will want to understand the robustness of the supply chain.

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To make sure that it's copper-bottomed as a business.

0:21:130:21:17

-Awesome, thank you!

-Yeah, well, thank you.

0:21:170:21:19

-Thanks again for coming in.

-Thank you.

-We'll speak soon.

0:21:190:21:21

-Good luck.

-Bye!

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He just gave us such positive feedback, as well.

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He totally understands what we're trying to do,

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and he believes in the product, the brand, in us.

0:21:280:21:30

It was just such an amazing experience.

0:21:300:21:32

It's all fitting into place.

0:21:320:21:34

I'm really excited about the businesses this week.

0:21:340:21:36

They're all different, but they have something in common,

0:21:360:21:39

which is that they're very positive.

0:21:390:21:40

Success!

0:21:400:21:42

We've got ethically made accessories,

0:21:420:21:44

we've got wine being made more healthy,

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and then we've got a product for a mum

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to move her baby round the house more safely.

0:21:490:21:51

That's amazing! I'm so happy!

0:21:510:21:54

Can he this turn those good ideas into a real business?

0:21:540:21:58

Richard wants to see sales,

0:22:020:22:03

so, taking the elephant by the tusk,

0:22:030:22:06

the boys are flogging their bags in a trendy market.

0:22:060:22:08

See, it's got a pocket inside, a pocket on that side,

0:22:080:22:10

and one at the back as well.

0:22:100:22:11

We've got yellow zips,

0:22:110:22:12

slightly more fluorescent zips down there.

0:22:120:22:15

While James is working,

0:22:150:22:17

Tim has other things on his mind.

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She was a bit of a cougar, really.

0:22:190:22:21

Very classy, business lady,

0:22:210:22:24

and I've got a bit of a soft spot for classy business ladies.

0:22:240:22:27

COUGAR ROARS

0:22:270:22:28

Yeah, maybe your imagination is running wild there!

0:22:280:22:31

There is a stampede! It must be down to their market technique.

0:22:330:22:36

-HE ADOPTS COCKNEY ACCENT

-Apples and pears, innit?

0:22:360:22:40

One of those, one of those, everyone's a winner.

0:22:400:22:43

That was so bad!

0:22:430:22:44

To celebrate, James skips like a gazelle.

0:22:440:22:47

Watch out for any more cougars!

0:22:470:22:50

Having cracked the city,

0:22:510:22:53

the boys try their luck with the toffs in the country.

0:22:530:22:55

Thanks! Gosh, look at that, proud owner of a new recycled bag.

0:22:550:22:58

Fabulous!

0:22:580:22:59

-Brilliant! Thank you.

-Thank you very much!

0:22:590:23:02

But Tim is struggling with his customer service.

0:23:020:23:05

Yeah, we have wallets, purses. We have other stuff.

0:23:050:23:08

Yeah, we have, all around the UK.

0:23:090:23:10

Have your opinion. I don't know what you want me to say.

0:23:180:23:20

Just a bit of "customer feedback."

0:23:200:23:22

She doesn't like the bags.

0:23:220:23:24

What's the point? It's a waste of breath.

0:23:240:23:28

Just go and ride a horse!

0:23:280:23:29

Also keen to show she can sell is Nicole.

0:23:320:23:35

Not leaving anything to chance,

0:23:350:23:37

she's wangled a meeting with

0:23:370:23:38

Richard's business partner and sales guru, Adam.

0:23:380:23:41

-Are you nervous?

-I'm nervous. Stressed.

0:23:410:23:43

Because it's the first thing I've done by myself without you guys.

0:23:430:23:46

Do you want to go over the questions?

0:23:460:23:48

Yeah, so I've got it fresh in my head.

0:23:480:23:50

We have committed so much to this over the past two years,

0:23:500:23:54

so to get a sale is crucial.

0:23:540:23:57

And for me to be the face of our sales is huge,

0:23:570:23:59

and it's a lot of pressure.

0:23:590:24:02

I was just wondering if maybe you could tell me a bit about

0:24:020:24:06

how you went from that point of having a product

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and then getting the first sale?

0:24:090:24:11

We decided we would sell into little, independent stores,

0:24:110:24:15

cafes and sandwich bars, and coffee shops. That sort of thing,

0:24:150:24:18

rather than supermarkets, at first.

0:24:180:24:20

The most important thing was getting people to try the product.

0:24:200:24:23

We're at the disadvantage where we don't have the stock,

0:24:230:24:26

to get it out there and get people tasting it.

0:24:260:24:28

We're more the opposite.

0:24:280:24:29

We've got very few samples,

0:24:290:24:30

they cost us a lot of money to make,

0:24:300:24:32

so we're very careful with who tastes it.

0:24:320:24:34

The simple best way to get people to believe in you is for them to try it.

0:24:340:24:39

With no stock for buyers to sample,

0:24:390:24:42

their business could end up corked before it starts.

0:24:420:24:45

The team gets together to make a plan.

0:24:450:24:48

Keen to prove to Richard they're worthy of further investment,

0:24:480:24:52

they've flown over fourth member of their team, wine expert, Steve.

0:24:520:24:56

The four of us are together!

0:24:560:24:58

-The four of us!

-This is weird!

-It's very weird!

0:24:580:25:01

The key thing that came out of the meeting was,

0:25:010:25:05

I explained the fact that our samples are so expensive to make,

0:25:050:25:08

we only have so few here, and the main message was

0:25:080:25:10

you need to find a way to get those samples made and get them over here.

0:25:100:25:13

Not to be a damper on the idea of bigger volume,

0:25:130:25:18

but how much is that going to cost?

0:25:180:25:19

£6-7,000 easy.

0:25:190:25:21

Hang on, haven't you just spent a fortune flying Steve over?!

0:25:210:25:24

How many samples do we have left?

0:25:240:25:26

-Eight?

-Maybe eight bottles.

0:25:260:25:28

We've just got to make sure every time we talk to someone,

0:25:280:25:31

we're making a bit of noise for the product.

0:25:310:25:34

We don't have the samples to lead with some of these places,

0:25:340:25:37

but start getting that feedback and building the interest.

0:25:370:25:41

Let's get 'em out there now.

0:25:410:25:43

The Skinnies need to plump up their order book,

0:25:430:25:45

but without samples, are they plonkers to even try?

0:25:450:25:49

-Can I taste it?

-No, you can't taste it!

0:25:490:25:51

We've only got five bottles left!

0:25:510:25:53

I can't carry anything until we've tasted it.

0:25:530:25:56

-Yeah.

-That would be important.

0:25:560:25:58

-Nicole.

-Hi, Nicole.

-Nice to meet you.

0:25:580:25:59

We need to taste the wine, most importantly.

0:25:590:26:03

For us, tasting the wine is hugely significant.

0:26:030:26:05

We don't have large amounts of this wine.

0:26:050:26:08

I'm so sick of going to meetings and saying,

0:26:080:26:10

"I'm sorry, you can't taste it."

0:26:100:26:12

OK, so that's two of our teams, pounding the streets,

0:26:170:26:20

trying to drum up business.

0:26:200:26:22

Is Catherine, of Stumpydog fame, doing the same over in Jersey?

0:26:220:26:26

No, she just seems to be staring at her phone.

0:26:260:26:31

Unsure of how to stretch Richard's cash to get her business to Blighty,

0:26:310:26:34

Catherine does the only sensible thing,

0:26:340:26:37

and asks her millionaire mentor for more money.

0:26:370:26:40

This will be interesting.

0:26:400:26:41

Hello.

0:26:410:26:43

What's going on?

0:26:430:26:44

One thing I wanted to check with you about

0:26:440:26:48

was the funding you've put in,

0:26:480:26:50

because it would be better for me if I could have £5,000.

0:26:500:26:55

Talk me through what the money would be spent on?

0:26:550:26:57

Arranging to go and see all the retailers.

0:26:570:26:59

Every time I fly to England, it costs over £500.

0:26:590:27:04

Really?

0:27:040:27:05

"Yeah. There's two of us going."

0:27:050:27:08

For me to put in money for travel and costs isn't where I want to be.

0:27:080:27:12

I'm about investing in the thing that'll create the long-term value.

0:27:120:27:16

So, I can't fund that, I'm afraid.

0:27:160:27:18

That went well(!)

0:27:180:27:20

With no more money on offer from Richard,

0:27:220:27:24

Catherine stumps up the cash herself and heads off for her first meeting

0:27:240:27:28

with a major player in the baby market.

0:27:280:27:31

Just one small problem. She's not there.

0:27:310:27:34

Oh, she's here! Look! 45 minutes late.

0:27:370:27:40

Hi.

0:27:400:27:41

-Hi. Is it Katie?

-It is, yes.

0:27:410:27:44

And they've already read her pitch.

0:27:440:27:46

Time to wow 'em, Cathy!

0:27:460:27:47

Do you want to ask me some questions about it?

0:27:470:27:51

What are you thinking, as a recommended retail price?

0:27:510:27:53

I was thinking it would probably somewhere around £100.

0:27:530:27:57

But I'm hoping to not to go into manufacturing,

0:27:570:28:01

we'd prefer to arrange a licensing deal.

0:28:010:28:04

This is too painful, I can't bear to watch, I've got to go.

0:28:090:28:12

Hoping to help Catherine polish her patter is retail guru Grace.

0:28:120:28:16

She watches from a safe distance. What did she think?

0:28:160:28:20

She wasn't in control. There was no authority.

0:28:200:28:22

She came across quite nervous.

0:28:220:28:26

She was late. Why was she late?

0:28:260:28:29

Not a good presentation at all. At all. At all, at all, at all.

0:28:290:28:34

Oof, life's a "pitch".

0:28:350:28:38

And she's not the only one with problems.

0:28:400:28:43

James, from Elephant Branded,

0:28:430:28:45

should be booking flights to see a supplier in Uganda.

0:28:450:28:48

But it seems he's quite keen to make a detour.

0:28:480:28:50

I think I might book this flight to Hong Kong on the Monday.

0:28:500:28:55

And then that will get me into Hong Kong

0:28:550:28:58

for the evening of Tuesday.

0:28:580:29:00

What would you say, out of interest, if Richard said,

0:29:000:29:03

"Why are you going to Hong Kong?"

0:29:030:29:04

We need to work what we have in Cambodia at the moment.

0:29:040:29:07

We have a wicked relationship with them.

0:29:070:29:09

Honestly, I think you'll come across as a bit of bull, if I'm honest.

0:29:090:29:15

I think you need to be honest.

0:29:150:29:17

That leaves me in an impossible situation, what can I do?

0:29:170:29:20

I don't know.

0:29:200:29:22

Time to come clean, James.

0:29:220:29:23

So, my other commitment in Hong Kong,

0:29:230:29:26

which again was organised a long time ago, before this,

0:29:260:29:29

is that I will be working, doing an architecture thing in Hong Kong.

0:29:290:29:35

Busted!

0:29:350:29:36

Turns out James is spending four of the next six weeks

0:29:360:29:41

doing his "architecture thing" in Hong Kong.

0:29:410:29:43

He's leaving Tim to man the fort alone.

0:29:430:29:46

After that bombshell, James is feeling like a bit of a Nelly.

0:29:470:29:51

It's time to fess up to Mufasa, sorry, I mean Richard.

0:29:510:29:55

Very scared.

0:29:550:29:57

I think it should be OK.

0:29:570:29:59

It'll be all right.

0:29:590:30:02

I've got my lucky boxers on. Always work wonders.

0:30:020:30:06

It's time for the Elephants to take a step into the lion's den.

0:30:060:30:09

-Hello, boys.

-Hello. How's it going, mate. Good to see you.

0:30:090:30:12

This is Tim, my business partner.

0:30:120:30:14

-Haven't we met before?

-No, we haven't.

-No? OK.

0:30:140:30:16

Another piece of the jigsaw.

0:30:160:30:19

We feel it's important that you know that,

0:30:190:30:21

if you give us a call in two weeks' time,

0:30:210:30:23

I might possibly be out in Asia.

0:30:230:30:25

I had a commitment with doing a month of architecture in Hong Kong,

0:30:250:30:30

with the idea that I would work during the week,

0:30:300:30:34

and then take weeks out to go to Cambodia,

0:30:340:30:37

as, obviously, that's our nearest supply chain.

0:30:370:30:39

We felt it was important to come and see you,

0:30:390:30:41

because we want to be as open and clear and transparent as possible.

0:30:410:30:44

Yeah. The most important thing in business is trust.

0:30:440:30:48

You get trust by being honest and open.

0:30:480:30:50

You don't work for me, you work for yourselves.

0:30:500:30:53

You're your own bosses.

0:30:530:30:54

So what do you with your time is absolutely your business, not mine.

0:30:540:30:59

That's nice, everything out in the open. Crack on, boys.

0:30:590:31:02

I, in December, applied for a graduate job.

0:31:020:31:06

-And I got it.

-Right.

0:31:060:31:08

Uh-oh.

0:31:080:31:09

But I absolutely love Elephant Branded.

0:31:090:31:12

I would love to say to you I'd jack it all in and run with it,

0:31:120:31:16

but we don't take a salary.

0:31:160:31:17

We don't have...

0:31:170:31:19

I need somewhere to live. This is where, actually, it becomes a risk.

0:31:190:31:22

-This is where it bites, for sure.

-The real world suddenly hits.

-It does.

0:31:220:31:25

Don't look to me to validate which choices you make,

0:31:250:31:28

that's a big life decision. But you've got to choose.

0:31:280:31:32

All I ask is this.

0:31:320:31:34

Once you know whether you want to do it or not, let me know.

0:31:340:31:37

-Thank you very much.

-Thank you very much, cool.

0:31:370:31:39

The biggest question will ultimately come down to,

0:31:390:31:42

what is it that they want? Do they want to do it or not?

0:31:420:31:45

If they can't answer that, then I can't invest.

0:31:450:31:48

I have something that's very concrete

0:31:480:31:50

and a very notable, obvious opportunity.

0:31:500:31:53

But, actually, there's a huge amount of opportunities that you have

0:31:530:31:57

that will also have to be parked.

0:31:570:31:59

I think we literally need to sit down and actually just sleep on it.

0:31:590:32:05

Yeah.

0:32:050:32:06

Nicole's also in London to see Richard.

0:32:060:32:09

He's got a surprise for her,

0:32:090:32:11

and he's asked her to bring a bottle of their precious wine.

0:32:110:32:13

Don't look so nervous, dear, it's only Richard.

0:32:130:32:17

And his friend, Richard.

0:32:170:32:19

You're going to meet a business today called Skinny Vines.

0:32:190:32:22

Their idea is low-calorie wine.

0:32:220:32:24

I like their name, Skinny Wines.

0:32:240:32:27

It works, don't you think?

0:32:270:32:28

Skinny Wines? He's already renamed it, what a maverick!

0:32:280:32:31

You get less drunk and less fat, but it still tastes delicious.

0:32:310:32:35

I'll definitely buy some.

0:32:350:32:37

Result, he's not even tried it.

0:32:370:32:39

I feel worried pretty much every time I meet with Richard

0:32:400:32:44

because, if he doesn't believe in me as a sales person,

0:32:440:32:46

he's not going to invest in us.

0:32:460:32:48

Nicole. Hello, hello.

0:32:500:32:51

-Hi!

-Lovely to see you.

-You too. Nicole.

0:32:510:32:54

-Nice to meet you. Richard, nice to see you again.

-Likewise.

0:32:540:32:57

-Grab a seat.

-Thank you.

0:32:570:32:59

So this is the mystery guest.

0:32:590:33:02

Two Richards for the price of one here.

0:33:020:33:04

-Very nice.

-Your business is about going up

0:33:040:33:06

against some really big, established companies.

0:33:060:33:10

And Sir Richard, more than any other entrepreneur,

0:33:100:33:13

has taken on big businesses, and won.

0:33:130:33:16

It's an opportunity to pick his brains on how to go about it.

0:33:160:33:18

-Right.

-Plus, he's got a big wine company,

0:33:180:33:22

-so it is definitely worth getting him to try some.

-Brilliant.

0:33:220:33:25

OK.

0:33:250:33:26

-I have a bottle here for us to taste.

-Perfect.

0:33:260:33:29

Finally, someone gets to drink it.

0:33:290:33:32

Could people tell the difference?

0:33:320:33:33

We have compared it with other low-calorie wines,

0:33:330:33:36

with other Sauvignon Blancs, without lower alcohol,

0:33:360:33:39

and the feedback is it tastes as good.

0:33:390:33:42

-Good luck.

-Cheers.

-A lovely idea.

-Thank you so much. Cheers.

0:33:420:33:46

-Delicious.

-Excellent!

0:33:500:33:53

If you had your eyes shut, you'd think it was normal wine.

0:33:530:33:55

It's fantastic.

0:33:550:33:58

The most important thing is to stand out from the crowd.

0:33:580:34:00

You've got to somehow come up with some ideas

0:34:000:34:05

to get the name of the wine in the press,

0:34:050:34:07

even if it means making a fool of yourself.

0:34:070:34:10

I was driving through a vineyard in America one day,

0:34:100:34:15

and suddenly this helicopter came down right next to my car,

0:34:150:34:18

with these guys with sub-machine guns.

0:34:180:34:20

They forced us down this dirt track road, blindfolded me,

0:34:200:34:22

took me into this barn, took the blindfold off

0:34:220:34:25

and there was three naked ladies.

0:34:250:34:28

I was told to help them bounce up and down to help press their wine.

0:34:280:34:31

Oh, fruity!

0:34:310:34:33

It worked for me. It's the only wine I've bought ever since.

0:34:330:34:36

I bet it is!

0:34:360:34:39

And they...

0:34:390:34:41

So...

0:34:410:34:43

I don't know whether you've got any great ideas on that?

0:34:430:34:47

We've definitely been trying to capitalise

0:34:470:34:49

on the online, social media trend. It's something we feel

0:34:490:34:52

the wine industry isn't doing particularly well at the moment.

0:34:520:34:55

We don't think they've caught up to speed with social media.

0:34:550:34:58

If you can get people to tweet about it.

0:34:580:35:00

It's key.

0:35:000:35:02

-Will you tweet about it for us?

-Yes!

0:35:020:35:04

You're one of the most followed guys in the UK.

0:35:040:35:06

I will certainly,

0:35:060:35:09

if we can think of some little angle.

0:35:090:35:11

Good luck anyway, nice to see you.

0:35:110:35:13

Thank you so much.

0:35:130:35:15

-Well done, Nicole.

-Thank you.

0:35:150:35:17

After a double-Dickie experience, Nicole is speechless.

0:35:170:35:20

I cannot believe what just happened.

0:35:220:35:25

I was not prepared for that at all.

0:35:250:35:28

I can't wait to go home and tell the other guys what happened.

0:35:280:35:31

They're not going to believe this. It's going to be insane.

0:35:310:35:34

Oh, get it down you, girl.

0:35:340:35:36

Back with Stumpydog, and determined not to be defeated,

0:35:370:35:42

Grace has taken on the challenge of turning Catherine

0:35:420:35:44

into a pitch-perfect performer.

0:35:440:35:46

Her husband Marvin has come along for moral, if not silent, support.

0:35:460:35:51

When I do presentations, you use key words, it's there as a prompt.

0:35:510:35:57

But, can Catherine get top marks?

0:35:570:35:59

My name is Catherine Curtis.

0:35:590:36:02

And, um, I'm really pleased to be here today,

0:36:020:36:05

and show you my great new product.

0:36:050:36:07

You can some of the lovely visuals.

0:36:070:36:11

Can I interrupt you really quickly?

0:36:110:36:13

"Catherine Curtis," brilliant,

0:36:130:36:14

"I'm really excited to tell you about this new product, the Baby Hub."

0:36:140:36:18

Take two.

0:36:180:36:19

So, hello, my name is Catherine Curtis,

0:36:190:36:22

and I'm really pleased to be here today.

0:36:220:36:25

I want to show you my great new product which is called Baby Hub.

0:36:250:36:29

Take three.

0:36:290:36:31

My name is Catherine Curtis...

0:36:310:36:33

You know what, this could be a long night, let's leave them to it.

0:36:330:36:36

Next morning, and it's the day of the big pitch.

0:36:360:36:40

Has Grace's business boot camp worked?

0:36:400:36:43

Right.

0:36:430:36:44

I want to tell you about the great new product we've got,

0:36:440:36:48

which is called Baby Hub.

0:36:480:36:49

Her confidence is up, but will it last?

0:36:510:36:53

The whole thing is designed to be completely portable.

0:36:530:36:55

When I was working as a nanny,

0:36:550:36:58

and went on to have five children of my own.

0:36:580:37:01

Wow. No stopping you!

0:37:010:37:04

Smiles! That's got to be a good sign.

0:37:040:37:07

I think it's a great invention.

0:37:070:37:09

I think you've got something you should really look at to develop.

0:37:090:37:12

You've got it all.

0:37:120:37:14

You can choose to manufacture with us, or distribute, or choose both.

0:37:140:37:18

Instead of licensing to someone else,

0:37:180:37:22

Catherine's been offered the chance to manufacture her own product.

0:37:220:37:25

This is a massive change to the business plan.

0:37:250:37:28

You are a changed performer.

0:37:280:37:32

-Well done, cheers.

-Cheers.

-Cheers.

0:37:320:37:36

In the south west,

0:37:390:37:41

James and Tim have had a chance to consider their options.

0:37:410:37:44

Richard gives them a call to see if they've made a decision.

0:37:440:37:47

"After our last conversation,

0:37:470:37:50

"I need an answer from you, whether you are in or out?"

0:37:500:37:53

As it stands, I think my opportunity with my employer is enormous,

0:37:530:37:58

and I think it's too big a risk for me to take,

0:37:580:38:00

and I think the business is too young.

0:38:000:38:02

I'm totally fine, don't worry about me,

0:38:020:38:04

this is about what you want to do.

0:38:040:38:06

Over to you, then, James.

0:38:060:38:07

I still have a concern.

0:38:070:38:09

How will you close the gap between where you are now,

0:38:090:38:11

and those things we've just outlined, if you are working in Hong Kong?

0:38:110:38:15

Yeah, so... If I'm out in Hong Kong, I'm going to be doing some work,

0:38:150:38:21

but also I'm going to be in the village in Cambodia.

0:38:210:38:24

And then Tim is going to be based in the UK,

0:38:240:38:27

and is going to deal with the brand,

0:38:270:38:30

but also deal with our on-going talks with resellers in the UK.

0:38:300:38:36

-"OK, talk to you soon. Goodbye."

-Cheers. Bye-bye.

-Bye.

0:38:360:38:39

So, let's get this straight.

0:38:410:38:43

Tim's got a graduate job lined up, which starts in two months,

0:38:430:38:47

but will spend the next four weeks working for the business.

0:38:470:38:50

In the meantime, James has taken an architecture job in Hong Kong,

0:38:500:38:54

but will also visit Cambodia, not Uganda, to look at the supply chain.

0:38:540:38:59

Clear as mud. But everyone's happy, right?

0:38:590:39:02

I'm not going to get the reward of any work I do over the three months.

0:39:030:39:07

And potentially over six month.

0:39:070:39:10

It is going to be a huge amount of work.

0:39:100:39:13

And then...

0:39:130:39:15

I'm going.

0:39:150:39:18

It's not the fact that I'm going to have to spend hours on a computer,

0:39:180:39:22

I couldn't care less about that, I can do it.

0:39:220:39:24

But I have nothing, that's the problem.

0:39:240:39:28

I don't understand... what's basically... I...

0:39:280:39:32

I've known you for the last four months,

0:39:320:39:35

and I'd hope, by this stage, we can both trust each other.

0:39:350:39:38

I trust you, but what would kill me

0:39:380:39:41

is if I dedicated six months of my life to something,

0:39:410:39:45

and then, in September, Richard, or whoever it may be, says,

0:39:450:39:50

actually James, this is incredible, I'm going to give £1 million.

0:39:500:39:53

And then I lose six months' work. Like that.

0:39:530:39:56

I don't agree because

0:39:560:39:58

I can write you something on paper to say we have a commitment here.

0:39:580:40:02

I can't do anything until I know what's happening with Richard.

0:40:020:40:05

At the end of the day, that's where it all changes.

0:40:050:40:08

In six weeks' time, everything will change.

0:40:080:40:11

And I will be the one who will have to run it

0:40:110:40:13

and depend on it for a livelihood.

0:40:130:40:15

I do trust James, and hopefully

0:40:160:40:18

that will be acknowledged in the form of equity, disregarding what happens.

0:40:180:40:22

There's a difference between having it said and written, simple as that.

0:40:220:40:27

I will have to focus it and run it day-to-day as my livelihood.

0:40:270:40:30

We'll have Richard's involvement, potentially, if that happens.

0:40:300:40:34

He will also want a stake.

0:40:340:40:36

So, at this point in time,

0:40:360:40:38

it's very difficult to know exactly how that will be split up.

0:40:380:40:41

I, honestly, to answer the question,

0:40:410:40:43

have absolutely no idea how it would be.

0:40:430:40:45

They're going to have 6,000 miles between them,

0:40:480:40:51

and be working on completely different jobs.

0:40:510:40:53

So the boys will have to find a way to work through their problems,

0:40:530:40:56

if they're going to impress Richard.

0:40:560:40:57

As the Elephant boys start falling apart,

0:41:000:41:03

the Skinny team are all in it together.

0:41:030:41:06

What are they up to?

0:41:060:41:08

I need to get up on the roof, and make sure we have enough rope.

0:41:120:41:17

Did he say, "Get on the roof"?

0:41:170:41:19

It fits!

0:41:280:41:29

It's getting attention.

0:41:430:41:45

People are stopping, looking at the sign.

0:41:450:41:48

Reading it. So, it's good.

0:41:480:41:51

HE LAUGHS I totally missed that.

0:42:000:42:03

Oh! "Forget the juice"!

0:42:070:42:10

Oh-ho!

0:42:100:42:12

Good for you, man! Good for you.

0:42:120:42:15

Whose bright idea was that?

0:42:150:42:16

Richard Branson-inspired.

0:42:160:42:18

Get in the media, get people's attention,

0:42:180:42:20

hopefully make them laugh.

0:42:200:42:22

I like all of it, except "Forget the juice".

0:42:220:42:24

SHE LAUGHS

0:42:240:42:25

You can stick that up your Skinny Vines. But the rest is cool.

0:42:250:42:29

Ah, he's so cool.

0:42:300:42:33

And, that's a tweet.

0:42:340:42:36

To complete the stunt,

0:42:360:42:37

Richard Branson gamely retweets it to his 2.5 million followers.

0:42:370:42:41

Cheers, Dickie!

0:42:410:42:44

Impressed by the stunt,

0:42:440:42:45

Sir Branson sets up a meeting with the team, with his own wine company.

0:42:450:42:49

Nice to have friends in the know, eh?

0:42:490:42:52

Got one bottle to give them.

0:42:520:42:54

And we're not able to leave them any, we are taking it home.

0:42:540:42:57

-Got to teach you how to pour a tasting glass.

-Yeah, you do.

0:42:580:43:02

Too much?

0:43:020:43:04

Argh! The precious wine!

0:43:040:43:08

Do you alcoholise...

0:43:090:43:11

Oh, what a waste.

0:43:110:43:13

We probably want to look at the pricing structure as well.

0:43:130:43:17

We're looking at £24 per six pack.

0:43:170:43:22

What's your recommended retail price on that?

0:43:220:43:26

We see it coming in just under £10.

0:43:260:43:29

I think, as soon as you start getting over £10, it will be a hard sell.

0:43:290:43:34

-That's too tight, I'm afraid, at that level.

-Mm-hm.

0:43:340:43:37

It is a huge gap, what we can do it for, and what they're looking for.

0:43:390:43:43

It's pretty disheartening we can't get anywhere near their margins.

0:43:430:43:46

In a few days' time,

0:43:480:43:50

these budding entrepreneurs will be pitching for life-changing investment from Richard.

0:43:500:43:55

With the time they have left, James and Tim need to decide

0:43:550:43:59

whether they believe in Elephant Branded enough to stay at the helm,

0:43:590:44:02

or whether to succumb to the temptations of a career.

0:44:020:44:06

We've set up something really cool, really exciting,

0:44:060:44:08

it's something I'm proud of,

0:44:080:44:10

something I'll always have an interest in, because I've set it up with James.

0:44:100:44:15

Catherine has made drastic and last-minute changes to her business plan.

0:44:150:44:19

It could be the push her business needs.

0:44:190:44:22

But will she risk losing Richard in the process?

0:44:220:44:25

It would be a real tragedy if it didn't happen now.

0:44:260:44:29

I'm hoping that I get that investment from Richard,

0:44:290:44:32

because I really need it.

0:44:320:44:34

And, with an empty order book for Skinny Vines,

0:44:360:44:39

Nicole needs to prove she can deliver as the sales manager.

0:44:390:44:43

Sales is crucial. We've been working on this for two years.

0:44:430:44:45

Until we get a sale, we're not a real business in my eyes.

0:44:450:44:49

Will any of these have done enough

0:44:550:44:57

to convince Richard to part with his cash?

0:44:570:44:59

There are people that I'm going to see today that,

0:44:590:45:03

if I was a rational, logical investor,

0:45:030:45:06

I wouldn't even let them through the door.

0:45:060:45:09

So I am going to potentially give people a go

0:45:090:45:12

who, on paper, I shouldn't.

0:45:120:45:15

But, sometimes, you can't convey on paper

0:45:150:45:18

what's actually the true entrepreneur inside,

0:45:180:45:21

which is the person who's going to do whatever it takes to get this thing to happen.

0:45:210:45:24

It is D-Day at Richard's HQ.

0:45:280:45:31

After six long weeks, this is the moment they find out

0:45:310:45:34

if they've got Richard's backing or not.

0:45:340:45:37

We've got to the point where we're ready to go,

0:45:370:45:39

got everything arranged.

0:45:390:45:42

I need the investment, so it's very important.

0:45:420:45:44

It took me three days,

0:45:470:45:49

six flights, and some malaria tablets to get here today.

0:45:490:45:53

We know he knows what we do as a business.

0:45:530:45:55

He'll have an idea in his mind of what he wants to do.

0:45:550:45:58

We're going to say what we have done, and we'll see how he reacts.

0:45:580:46:01

This is really important to us.

0:46:040:46:05

We really want to get the investment, so we can grow our business, so we can reach our goals.

0:46:050:46:10

And we really want Richard on board. We think it's a really good fit.

0:46:100:46:13

We would love to go into partnership with him.

0:46:130:46:16

This is our mascot. We thought we'd lighten the mood a bit in the pitch.

0:46:160:46:21

I'm going to come in, wearing this.

0:46:210:46:22

They wait, while Richard takes one last look at their business plans.

0:46:260:46:31

I've got no interest in people that are just full of chat.

0:46:310:46:34

I can't invest in people who are caught in the detail of the day-to-day.

0:46:340:46:38

I need someone who can see the bigger picture, and then deliver it.

0:46:380:46:41

You are going to get so hot, aren't you?

0:46:500:46:52

HE LAUGHS

0:46:520:46:54

-Why should I invest?

-OK. We've got so much to update you on.

0:46:560:46:59

There's been lots going on since the expo, talking to our suppliers,

0:46:590:47:02

We've nailed down our end-to-end supply chain.

0:47:020:47:05

We've been meeting with distributors.

0:47:050:47:07

We've been talking about going out to events,

0:47:070:47:10

having a presence at Fashion Week, maybe, making that connection.

0:47:100:47:14

So, getting out there and trying to engage our social media and online presence, with PR stunts.

0:47:140:47:19

And we have a written expression of interest from Marks & Spencer.

0:47:210:47:26

And we have a follow-up meeting with Waitrose.

0:47:260:47:29

Which retailers have said, "Yes, I will stock Skinny Vines?"

0:47:290:47:34

This is the closest we have to the yes.

0:47:340:47:38

As you said, there's no such thing as a portable playpen.

0:47:390:47:42

I thought, I bet there is.

0:47:420:47:44

I searched on-line, and you were right, there was no such thing as a portable playpen.

0:47:440:47:48

There was a boat load of portable travel cots.

0:47:480:47:50

Your USP is the single-handed motion.

0:47:500:47:54

You don't have to put your baby down.

0:47:540:47:56

Yeah. You have to take it out, though, right?

0:47:560:47:59

We've talked to the cement company who own the bags.

0:47:590:48:01

We've had some really positive conversations with them.

0:48:010:48:04

We're now talking about some form of collaboration.

0:48:040:48:07

We've also been in discussion with a leading reseller.

0:48:070:48:10

We've got to the stage where they've placed an initial order.

0:48:100:48:13

-How big is the order?

-At the moment, it's about 500 units.

0:48:130:48:17

What's that worth? It's quite a big order.

0:48:170:48:20

-It's worth...

-Over £10,000.

0:48:220:48:24

Why no sales? Why haven't you got any orders?

0:48:240:48:27

We didn't have the stock on the ground.

0:48:270:48:29

If we'd had the stock on the ground ready to go,

0:48:290:48:32

we'd have had stock on shelves.

0:48:320:48:34

Initially, we didn't take that risk

0:48:340:48:36

of putting everything in, to getting a container-load over here.

0:48:360:48:40

In hindsight, that probably was a mistake.

0:48:400:48:42

You told me that essentially what you wanted to do

0:48:450:48:48

was to license out your idea. Is that still the idea?

0:48:480:48:52

That's changed.

0:48:520:48:53

Am I right in also thinking

0:48:530:48:54

that the amount of money you're looking for has changed?

0:48:540:48:57

It's going to be different for manufacturing,

0:48:570:49:00

because the funds I needed before were for getting the product ready for licensing.

0:49:000:49:07

So, for us to do this ourselves,

0:49:070:49:09

the amount of funds we need will be more.

0:49:090:49:11

Do you know what the new amount is, that you're looking to raise?

0:49:110:49:15

It's going to be somewhere in the region of £100,000.

0:49:150:49:19

I think you've sold something like 100-200 bags?

0:49:200:49:23

No, we have sold about 1,000 bags.

0:49:230:49:27

OK. And that's turned over?

0:49:270:49:30

Probably about £30,000.

0:49:300:49:31

So you've got a business that's turned over £30,000.

0:49:310:49:35

And you're coming to me and saying, today, it's worth nearly £2 million?

0:49:350:49:39

To me, when I first looked at it,

0:49:390:49:41

I assumed you'd mistakenly put a zero on the end of it.

0:49:410:49:45

I think we have something that is growing at a rate of knots,

0:49:450:49:49

that is really, really exciting.

0:49:490:49:51

Guys, it's just hard to take seriously.

0:49:510:49:55

I'm just going to take a few minutes, and I'll come back.

0:49:560:50:01

That was the question we knew was going to get asked.

0:50:060:50:09

I think they've got a good idea.

0:50:120:50:15

But...

0:50:150:50:17

they've got to find a way to sort their behind-the-scenes, how it gets made,

0:50:170:50:22

and how it gets from New Zealand to here.

0:50:220:50:25

They have to find a way to make that cheaper.

0:50:250:50:28

Ooh, this one's difficult.

0:50:280:50:31

This one's right on the line.

0:50:310:50:33

I think what Catherine is,

0:50:360:50:39

is an inventor, great.

0:50:390:50:42

Now she needs to find a really dynamic business partner.

0:50:420:50:46

We have massively, massively overvalued it. And that worries me.

0:50:480:50:53

I don't know, we'll soon find out. Wait and see.

0:50:550:50:59

There was something cool about the product,

0:50:590:51:02

and about the way the product is made.

0:51:020:51:04

They've made some good progress, they've actually got an order, that's great.

0:51:040:51:08

Several things have come out.

0:51:080:51:10

One is this sense of, are they really committed?

0:51:100:51:15

One of the two is giving up before he's started.

0:51:150:51:19

Secondly, they've got this insane valuation that the business is worth nearly £2 million.

0:51:190:51:24

That's just flat out greedy!

0:51:240:51:27

-Thanks for that.

-OK, no problem.

0:51:300:51:33

The business plan said you wanted to license this.

0:51:350:51:39

And actually, you've sat before me and said you're going to manufacture it yourself.

0:51:390:51:43

I guess I can only go on what I've been given as the business plan,

0:51:430:51:47

and what I've heard to date, and I'm left feeling confused.

0:51:470:51:51

I don't think you're at the investable stage,

0:52:000:52:02

-so I'm afraid I can't invest.

-OK.

0:52:020:52:05

The actual business relationships we set up during these six weeks,

0:52:090:52:13

they're not going to go away.

0:52:130:52:15

So, it's not going to hold us back for a moment.

0:52:150:52:19

She went from wanting to be a licenser, to being an entrepreneur.

0:52:190:52:24

You have to work out what it is you want to be, before you can start asking people for money.

0:52:240:52:29

I loved the product, the original bag.

0:52:360:52:39

I use it every day.

0:52:390:52:41

I've had more comments on that than virtually anything I've ever owned.

0:52:410:52:46

I'm facing a team that's... there's a big question mark over it because you're leaving.

0:52:460:52:52

As an investor, I'm looking at the team that is asking for investment is kind of fracturing.

0:52:520:52:58

Um...

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On team, on strategy and valuation,

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-it means I can't invest and I'm going it take a pass.

-OK.

0:53:070:53:12

Thank you very much anyway, for your time in looking through it.

0:53:120:53:15

-OK. All right. Good luck.

-Thanks.

0:53:150:53:17

-Nice one, boys.

-Thank you very much.

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Thanks for your time. See you soon.

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It's not the result we were hoping for, and that we wanted.

0:53:220:53:27

I would love to be part of Elephant Branded for James.

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But I'm not, I am going to walk out there with my head held high.

0:53:290:53:34

I would love to support a business like that.

0:53:340:53:36

They've miscalled it. They're trying to run before they can walk.

0:53:360:53:40

That's a real shame, because you do have something good here.

0:53:400:53:43

Sorry to keep you guys waiting for so long.

0:53:510:53:53

Blimey!

0:53:530:53:56

Properly tough, actually.

0:53:560:53:57

I can really articulate the reasons why not to.

0:53:570:54:00

I think the nature of how you're getting this stuff made,

0:54:020:54:05

and getting from over there to over here, and bottling it,

0:54:050:54:09

is inefficient.

0:54:090:54:10

-The question is, are you going to be able to solve that?

-Yeah.

0:54:120:54:15

We understand 100% how to do it.

0:54:150:54:18

I do look at this, and I think it's a cool-looking thing,

0:54:180:54:21

that I think is on trend,

0:54:210:54:23

with health and quality.

0:54:230:54:26

But I did set you this challenge,

0:54:260:54:28

I said I wanted you to get one person saying yes.

0:54:280:54:32

As an investor, you have to invest

0:54:320:54:34

in teams and people you think have the potential

0:54:340:54:38

to solve the problems that every business faces.

0:54:380:54:41

Yeah, I think I would take the bet on you guys, so I will invest.

0:54:540:54:57

THEY SQUEAL

0:54:570:54:58

I will offer to invest £50,000.

0:55:000:55:03

Cool! Cool!

0:55:030:55:05

Wow. Fantastic. Thank you.

0:55:050:55:08

I think you should start dancing, Logan.

0:55:080:55:10

Thank you for having the belief.

0:55:100:55:12

And we will deliver, 100%.

0:55:120:55:14

You're wearing the suit.

0:55:140:55:16

THEY LAUGH

0:55:160:55:18

You know what? I'm looking forward to working with those guys.

0:55:190:55:23

Is it ultra high-risk? Yeah, it's ultra high-risk.

0:55:230:55:26

Some fundamentals give me some comfort.

0:55:260:55:29

Delicious-tasting wine.

0:55:290:55:31

Honest, trustworthy, hard-working team.

0:55:310:55:34

That's a pretty good place to start from.

0:55:340:55:37

It's such an incredible feeling to think that we were at the expo

0:55:390:55:43

with 500 other businesses, trying to get Richard's investment.

0:55:430:55:47

And now, here we are, at the final, and he's just invested in us.

0:55:470:55:51

Out of all these people, it's just phenomenal.

0:55:510:55:54

As an investor, I don't want to tell people how to run their business,

0:56:010:56:04

that's up to them.

0:56:040:56:06

I want to put money into support them

0:56:060:56:07

when they've got ideas that I'm excited by.

0:56:070:56:10

So, this whole experience,

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of meeting literally hundreds of entrepreneurs,

0:56:130:56:16

has been a really exciting and, for me, inspiring thing to be part of.

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And, you know what? All of us can do it.

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All of us can have that wonderful, liberating feeling

0:56:240:56:28

of what it is to be your own boss.

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