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-Good evening. -This is BBC Two. -Blast off! | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
I've got a story to tell you. | 0:00:04 | 0:00:05 | |
What happened? | 0:00:05 | 0:00:06 | |
-# Da-da-da-da, doo-doo-do-doo-doo. # -Give us a job. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:10 | |
My darling John. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:11 | |
I miss him, I know I shouldn't do this. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:13 | |
Hello and welcome to this week's Whistle Test. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:15 | |
BBC Two hit the air | 0:00:17 | 0:00:19 | |
on 20 April, 1964. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:22 | |
This anniversary series tells | 0:00:22 | 0:00:23 | |
the stories of some of the programmes that shaped it. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:26 | |
But first, how it all began. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:36 | |
TRUMPET FANFARE | 0:00:36 | 0:00:41 | |
When BBC Two was announced, ie the second channel, | 0:00:41 | 0:00:45 | |
an awful lot of those who would be involved | 0:00:45 | 0:00:48 | |
were already whacked from the effort | 0:00:48 | 0:00:51 | |
of finding a competitive response to ITV. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:53 | |
The idea of another channel was, "Oh, my God, not more," you know! | 0:00:53 | 0:00:57 | |
It was 625 lines, not 405, | 0:00:59 | 0:01:02 | |
so somehow we had to persuade the world at large | 0:01:02 | 0:01:05 | |
that they should spend some money on a new set. | 0:01:05 | 0:01:07 | |
That was only half the problem. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:09 | |
Every studio in which we made programmes had to have new cameras | 0:01:09 | 0:01:12 | |
and it tested every system the BBC had at the time. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:15 | |
I was required to create a complimentary alternative, | 0:01:17 | 0:01:21 | |
so that when you came to the end of a programme on BBC One, you could | 0:01:21 | 0:01:24 | |
switch across and there would be a lovely programme on BBC Two. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:26 | |
The fact of the matter is | 0:01:26 | 0:01:28 | |
I didn't have anything like enough programmers. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:30 | |
We were supposed to start the network off | 0:01:35 | 0:01:37 | |
and having gone through the rehearsals, | 0:01:37 | 0:01:40 | |
and they had gone quite well, for a nine-minute programme | 0:01:40 | 0:01:42 | |
so you can't have too much go wrong, | 0:01:42 | 0:01:44 | |
or at least that's what we thought. | 0:01:44 | 0:01:47 | |
I was in my office obviously intending to watch there | 0:01:47 | 0:01:50 | |
with friends. And at seven o'clock, suddenly all the power went. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:55 | |
All the screens that I was sitting looking at went blank | 0:01:55 | 0:01:58 | |
and then people burst into the production gallery, | 0:01:58 | 0:02:01 | |
a couple of engineers saying, "Disaster, | 0:02:01 | 0:02:03 | |
"there's been a power failure due to a fire at Battersea Power Station. | 0:02:03 | 0:02:07 | |
"There are no lights in all of West London." | 0:02:07 | 0:02:09 | |
I said something silly like, | 0:02:09 | 0:02:10 | |
"Well, what's that going to do for BBC Two?" | 0:02:10 | 0:02:12 | |
And the guy looked at me and said, "Without power we cannot transmit." | 0:02:12 | 0:02:16 | |
Tonight of all nights there has been a loss of electric power | 0:02:17 | 0:02:21 | |
at our main studios at Television Centre in West London. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:24 | |
The newsroom were asked to put out a bulletin to explain | 0:02:24 | 0:02:29 | |
what was happening, to those who COULD receive BBC Two. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:32 | |
TELEPHONE RINGS | 0:02:32 | 0:02:34 | |
Excuse me. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:35 | |
Just like Channel One. Hello. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:37 | |
Unlike Channel One, there's nobody there. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:41 | |
By nine o'clock, we were thinking, "We'll be on the air until midnight | 0:02:41 | 0:02:45 | |
"if the power comes on just now." | 0:02:45 | 0:02:47 | |
And then, of course, by half past nine it hadn't come on | 0:02:47 | 0:02:49 | |
so we decided the only thing to do | 0:02:49 | 0:02:51 | |
was to start again the following day. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:53 | |
That is all for the moment, I think. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:56 | |
Anything else? | 0:02:56 | 0:02:57 | |
That's all we have for the moment, but we will be keeping in touch. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:04 | |
It was, of course, wonderful publicity. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:06 | |
-NEWS REPORT: -'A massive breakdown at Battersea Power Station | 0:03:06 | 0:03:09 | |
'brought chaos to the centre of the capital, | 0:03:09 | 0:03:11 | |
'but the biggest disappointment | 0:03:11 | 0:03:12 | |
'was at BBC Television Centre where the curtain failed to go up | 0:03:12 | 0:03:16 | |
'on the opening night of a brand-new channel, BBC Two.' | 0:03:16 | 0:03:19 | |
We decided that we would not actually specifically refer | 0:03:19 | 0:03:23 | |
to the disaster of the night before, | 0:03:23 | 0:03:25 | |
but the first thing you'd see would be this candle | 0:03:25 | 0:03:27 | |
and it would stay like that, flickering away, | 0:03:27 | 0:03:29 | |
until the time came to start. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:32 | |
Good evening, this is BBC Two. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:35 | |
The first programme that went on the air for BBC Two | 0:03:35 | 0:03:38 | |
was in fact Playschool. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:39 | |
TITLE MUSIC PLAYS | 0:03:39 | 0:03:42 | |
Hello. I'm Virginia. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:44 | |
Hello, I'm Gordon. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:46 | |
I came up with this seven faces of the week idea | 0:03:46 | 0:03:49 | |
which took each night and said | 0:03:49 | 0:03:51 | |
it's only going to have one sort of programme. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:54 | |
And by doing it that way, themed nights if you like, | 0:03:54 | 0:03:57 | |
I was able actually to create seven days of television. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:00 | |
One night was all repeats, for example, | 0:04:00 | 0:04:03 | |
but it did allow us to get on the air in April. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:05 | |
THEME MUSIC TO THE GREAT WAR | 0:04:05 | 0:04:08 | |
Individual programmes got particular notice by critics and the fact | 0:04:08 | 0:04:12 | |
that they were well received reflected well on the channel. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:15 | |
-FILM NARRATION: -'You ate beside the dead. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:22 | |
'You drank beside the dead. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:25 | |
'You relieved yourself beside the dead. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:27 | |
'You slept beside the dead.' | 0:04:27 | 0:04:31 | |
We had a regular series called "Jazz 625", | 0:04:31 | 0:04:33 | |
which is just what it sounds like. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:34 | |
Every week, we had some really good jazz people. We had Duke Ellington. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:39 | |
MUSIC: "Take the A Train." | 0:04:39 | 0:04:41 | |
'And now we come to Match Of The Day.' | 0:04:50 | 0:04:52 | |
TITLE MUSIC PLAYS | 0:04:52 | 0:04:56 | |
We persuaded the football league to let us show recorded | 0:04:56 | 0:04:58 | |
highlights of matches that day at seven o'clock on a Saturday night. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:02 | |
And we had the presumption | 0:05:02 | 0:05:05 | |
to break the FA's rule, which was | 0:05:05 | 0:05:08 | |
no televised soccer before ten o'clock at night because it might | 0:05:08 | 0:05:12 | |
affect the spectator gate for soccer | 0:05:12 | 0:05:15 | |
and we hadn't told them either. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:17 | |
Well, all hell broke loose. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:19 | |
Welcome to Match Of The Day, | 0:05:19 | 0:05:20 | |
the first of a weekly series coming to you every Saturday on BBC Two. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:25 | |
The trouble eventually blew over and Match Of The Day was soon to head | 0:05:25 | 0:05:29 | |
a long list of successfully negotiated | 0:05:29 | 0:05:32 | |
transfer deals to BBC One. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:33 | |
THEME TUNE PLAYS | 0:05:36 | 0:05:39 | |
Dick was a trainee at the BBC | 0:05:39 | 0:05:41 | |
and I was in what I suppose I'd now call my "gap year". | 0:05:41 | 0:05:45 | |
Ian was out of work | 0:05:48 | 0:05:49 | |
and living with a couple of Geordies around the corner. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:53 | |
A really good person working with me in those days was Bill Cotton. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:55 | |
And Bill came into my office one day and he said, | 0:05:55 | 0:05:58 | |
"Mike, I've got a training exercise which Dick Clement has done." | 0:05:58 | 0:06:02 | |
Bill Cotton, legend has it, rushed in to see Michael Peacock, | 0:06:02 | 0:06:08 | |
Chief of Programmes, | 0:06:08 | 0:06:10 | |
carrying a 16mm projector and a tin of film | 0:06:10 | 0:06:14 | |
and showed it on Michael Peacock's wall. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:17 | |
Get away! | 0:06:17 | 0:06:18 | |
And there was what became The Likely Lads. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:21 | |
You must be joking?! | 0:06:21 | 0:06:23 | |
We just couldn't believe our luck. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:25 | |
Hey, it's massive! Look at the size of it, eh? | 0:06:25 | 0:06:28 | |
-Come on, get up on the back. -No. -Come on, come on. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:30 | |
Hey, it's great. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:32 | |
-Vroom! Raaar! -Vroom! Vroom! Vroom! Vroom! | 0:06:32 | 0:06:36 | |
Highway patrol, highway patrol. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:39 | |
Follow that car. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:40 | |
THEY MIMIC MOTORBIKE ENGINE | 0:06:40 | 0:06:42 | |
Are Batman and Robin enjoying themselves? | 0:06:44 | 0:06:46 | |
We didn't specify exactly where it was. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:49 | |
We made it vaguely northeastern. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:51 | |
All systems go. Three, two, one, blast off! | 0:06:51 | 0:06:55 | |
AUDIENCE LAUGHS | 0:06:55 | 0:06:57 | |
It was mostly shot in Harlesden, actually. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:00 | |
Audience research had something called the RI, | 0:07:06 | 0:07:10 | |
the reaction index. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:13 | |
And ours was incredibly high. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:15 | |
And they weren't even from the northeast these people, | 0:07:15 | 0:07:17 | |
they were all in Barnet or Hertfordshire. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:19 | |
If you can't lick 'em, join 'em. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:22 | |
I'm in. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:23 | |
I'm in the REME with you. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:26 | |
Well, what's the matter? | 0:07:26 | 0:07:27 | |
You've signed on? | 0:07:27 | 0:07:28 | |
Three years, yeah. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:30 | |
Where are you going? What's this? | 0:07:30 | 0:07:32 | |
I'm going home. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:33 | |
What, you're on leave already?! | 0:07:33 | 0:07:36 | |
No, I've been discharged. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:37 | |
They failed me on my medical. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:40 | |
What? | 0:07:40 | 0:07:42 | |
Flat feet. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:44 | |
I was sad, I was sad when it came to an end | 0:07:44 | 0:07:47 | |
because we had such physical fun making it. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:50 | |
We had a rapport, Jim and I. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:53 | |
I got it working. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:56 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:07:56 | 0:07:58 | |
TRUMPET FANFARE | 0:08:01 | 0:08:05 | |
Good evening. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:06 | |
Up to now, this particular spot on BBC Two just before the main | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
programmes of the evening begin has been the Line-Up spot. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:13 | |
When BBC Two began we had this early evening publicity programme | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
called Line-Up and that's all it was, | 0:08:16 | 0:08:19 | |
it was a little ten minutes that puffed upcoming programmes. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:22 | |
However from now on, the Line-Up programme takes on a new | 0:08:22 | 0:08:25 | |
late-night look and moves on to the end of the evening. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
They realised they could switch Line-Up from its early position | 0:08:28 | 0:08:32 | |
and put it on late at night, make it longer | 0:08:32 | 0:08:35 | |
and we could talk much more about television. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
Homosexuality male and female in Britain today was | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
the subject of a Man Alive enquiry on BBC Two. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:44 | |
But of course it was wildly unpopular | 0:08:44 | 0:08:48 | |
amongst my producer colleagues | 0:08:48 | 0:08:50 | |
who didn't actually care for somebody to appear on the programme | 0:08:50 | 0:08:54 | |
half an hour after their show just finished and say, | 0:08:54 | 0:08:56 | |
"Well, that was a load of rubbish, wasn't it?" | 0:08:56 | 0:08:58 | |
I thought it was quite a good programme, | 0:08:58 | 0:09:01 | |
in a way slightly unambitious. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:02 | |
I suppose Line-Up was my big break. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:05 | |
It really did make a difference to my life. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:07 | |
When you come to television do you find it an incomplete medium | 0:09:07 | 0:09:11 | |
compared to stage? | 0:09:11 | 0:09:13 | |
Er, yes. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:14 | |
Mr Crosby, this is the first time | 0:09:14 | 0:09:15 | |
you've done situation comedy on television, isn't it? | 0:09:15 | 0:09:18 | |
That's true, Joan. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:19 | |
It was a time when there weren't women in | 0:09:19 | 0:09:22 | |
daily, current affairs television programmes at all. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:26 | |
It was a time of short skirts | 0:09:26 | 0:09:29 | |
and general friskiness. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:31 | |
And I suppose I was as frisky as anyone | 0:09:31 | 0:09:34 | |
and that got noticed too. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:36 | |
A legendary night in the history of Late Night Line-Up | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
was what was known as comedy writers' night. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:41 | |
Well, we have an extra guest with us who's just leaving. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:45 | |
'Another comedy writer who hadn't been invited | 0:09:45 | 0:09:48 | |
'broke into the studio and was hauled off | 0:09:48 | 0:09:50 | |
'physically by the director who ran out from the gallery.' | 0:09:50 | 0:09:53 | |
I am a comedy writer! | 0:09:53 | 0:09:55 | |
John, cool it, for God's sake! | 0:09:55 | 0:09:57 | |
'Then Johnny Speight began to be very talkative.' | 0:09:57 | 0:10:01 | |
If I had to live by myself... | 0:10:01 | 0:10:03 | |
If I'm writing rubbish I can't live with myself... | 0:10:03 | 0:10:06 | |
INDISTINCT | 0:10:06 | 0:10:08 | |
And I was told that if I didn't do something about this, | 0:10:08 | 0:10:12 | |
the programme was going to be pulled off the air. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:14 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:10:14 | 0:10:16 | |
Could I please... | 0:10:16 | 0:10:17 | |
We'll wrap this up in 60 seconds | 0:10:17 | 0:10:19 | |
if I can't make a point without being heard. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:21 | |
We managed to reach our own wrap-up | 0:10:21 | 0:10:24 | |
without the plug being pulled, | 0:10:24 | 0:10:26 | |
that's all I can claim happened. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:28 | |
I think there's no doubt that comedy on tonight's evidence is | 0:10:28 | 0:10:31 | |
certainly a serious business. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:33 | |
That's all from Line-up Review, good night. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:35 | |
# Tell your mama | 0:10:38 | 0:10:40 | |
# Tell your pa | 0:10:40 | 0:10:41 | |
# Or get back to Arkansas... # | 0:10:41 | 0:10:44 | |
Monday night was Beat Room night. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:46 | |
# ..I say don't do right, yeah... # | 0:10:46 | 0:10:50 | |
Chart-topping acts and of course the Beat Girls. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:53 | |
# ..What I see | 0:10:53 | 0:10:56 | |
# I tell them what I see... # | 0:10:56 | 0:10:58 | |
Some of whom went on to BBC One | 0:10:58 | 0:11:00 | |
and Pan's People fame. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:02 | |
The Beat Girls in the weekly Beat Room. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:05 | |
Appealing to perhaps another sector of the '60s youth market | 0:11:06 | 0:11:10 | |
was Let Me Speak. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:11 | |
I am a communist and I'll tell you why. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:13 | |
Described as the speaker's corner of television, | 0:11:13 | 0:11:16 | |
young people were given | 0:11:16 | 0:11:17 | |
the opportunity to air | 0:11:17 | 0:11:19 | |
controversial views in front of Malcolm Muggeridge. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:22 | |
In power, is the Communist Party of Great Britain going to | 0:11:22 | 0:11:25 | |
-differ from all other Communist parties in permitting dissent? -Yes. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:29 | |
Why? Because we feel that when we get into power we'll have | 0:11:29 | 0:11:32 | |
the vast mass of the working people behind us. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:35 | |
In my job as a senior technician in the physics field | 0:11:35 | 0:11:38 | |
I observe the orderliness | 0:11:38 | 0:11:40 | |
and intelligence of the great scientist and creator Jehovah God. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:44 | |
I treat people the way I expect them to treat me. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:47 | |
I don't care who they are, | 0:11:47 | 0:11:48 | |
if they're television announcers or just people that come from Sweden. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:52 | |
Yes, I applaud that. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:54 | |
And now Not Only But Also. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:56 | |
The pilot that we were commissioned to do was originally called, | 0:11:56 | 0:12:00 | |
with great originality, | 0:12:00 | 0:12:03 | |
the Dudley Moore Show. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:05 | |
Then Peter Cook came in. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:06 | |
And a colleague of mine for 60 or 70 years now, Mr Peter Cook. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:10 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:12:10 | 0:12:12 | |
Michael Peacock saw it along with Bill Cotton. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:14 | |
They suggested maybe it would be good to have Peter Cook | 0:12:14 | 0:12:18 | |
the whole time. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:19 | |
We're pleased to have with us the Mabel Pringle Singers. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:22 | |
-And with us indeed the leader of the group, Mabel Pringle. -Good evening. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:26 | |
And so we thought it would be current affairs with comedy, | 0:12:27 | 0:12:31 | |
music and a guest star. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:34 | |
Would it help if I told you that I was the Duke and Duchess of Windsor? | 0:12:34 | 0:12:38 | |
Sorry, sir, didn't recognise you, Your Majesty. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:41 | |
Well, actually, Sir, there's a £5 waiting list. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:44 | |
I understand, it's one of the blue ones. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:47 | |
Thank you very much indeed. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:49 | |
I love your Oxford accent. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:51 | |
-Follow your nose, Sir. -Thank you. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:52 | |
And Madam. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
Dudley always told me, he didn't realise until he started | 0:12:55 | 0:12:58 | |
doing it, how absurd some of the situations and the words were. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:02 | |
That's when he started to laugh. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:04 | |
I was just about to drop off when suddenly, | 0:13:04 | 0:13:07 | |
tap, tap, tap at the bloody windowpane. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:11 | |
-I looked out, you know who it was? -Who? | 0:13:13 | 0:13:16 | |
Bloody Greta Garbo... | 0:13:16 | 0:13:18 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:13:18 | 0:13:20 | |
..bloody Greta Garbo, | 0:13:23 | 0:13:24 | |
stark naked... | 0:13:24 | 0:13:27 | |
..save for a shorty nightie. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:31 | |
-DICK CLEMENT: -It was really the top show at the time. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:34 | |
And I can see, I can see... | 0:13:34 | 0:13:37 | |
I can see her knuckles all white. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:40 | |
And Peter was so incredibly funny | 0:13:40 | 0:13:42 | |
that I felt totally intimidated, | 0:13:42 | 0:13:45 | |
which I found out later was Alan Bennett's reaction as well. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 | |
So then I felt that I was in better company. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:51 | |
But it was a fantastic opportunity for me to do it. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:53 | |
TINKLY PIANO MUSIC | 0:13:53 | 0:13:57 | |
We were doing extraordinary stuff. | 0:13:57 | 0:13:59 | |
We lowered the piano into the Thames and then filmed them | 0:13:59 | 0:14:02 | |
playing the piano underwater in Butlins holiday camp. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:06 | |
Every Sunday night, people were begging for tickets to come | 0:14:06 | 0:14:09 | |
and see the show. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:11 | |
I think I had more fun directing that than anything I have ever done. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:14 | |
One and a half, please. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:16 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:14:16 | 0:14:18 | |
TITLE MUSIC FOR MAN ALIVE | 0:14:18 | 0:14:21 | |
Man Alive was principally the brainchild of ex-tabloid | 0:14:24 | 0:14:28 | |
reporter Desmond Wilcox. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:30 | |
Desmond had a very un-BBC attitude | 0:14:31 | 0:14:37 | |
towards documentary. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:38 | |
Do you think it's possible for other parents to understand | 0:14:38 | 0:14:43 | |
the feelings of a mother when something like this happens? | 0:14:43 | 0:14:46 | |
No. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:48 | |
It's impossible. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:50 | |
His famous question was how does it feel? | 0:14:50 | 0:14:53 | |
-They never caught the man. -No. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:56 | |
How do you feel about that? | 0:14:58 | 0:15:00 | |
I feel very bitter. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:02 | |
Very bitter indeed. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:04 | |
It irritated a lot of constipated critics, who couldn't take | 0:15:04 | 0:15:11 | |
the emotional power of these stories. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:13 | |
If he's breathing, | 0:15:13 | 0:15:15 | |
my child should be breathing. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:17 | |
And if the Lord answers my prayers, | 0:15:17 | 0:15:19 | |
he will suffer the way that we suffer. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:22 | |
Light Entertainment said, "We've got to have a quiz, | 0:15:25 | 0:15:28 | |
"we do need a quiz programme. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:29 | |
"I mean, they're very cheap and they're very popular | 0:15:29 | 0:15:31 | |
"and they get a big audience, a loyal audience," and so on. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:34 | |
So I said, | 0:15:34 | 0:15:36 | |
"OK, but it's got to be an intelligent quiz." | 0:15:36 | 0:15:40 | |
Welcome to BBC Two's game of words and wit, Call My Bluff. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:44 | |
-Hick-boo. -Gruma. -Alductum. -Trubilian. -Hinch pinch. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:48 | |
-Yarum. -Afoofoo. -Lomi lomi. -Trolloper. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:51 | |
Now, Hannah Gordon. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:53 | |
Akame. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:55 | |
-Cherma. -Coptanks. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:57 | |
-Spava. -Holv. -Mon. -Talloum. | 0:15:57 | 0:16:00 | |
-Dildnell. -Conky. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:02 | |
-Yinkiny. -Jip. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:03 | |
-Sniddell. -Atunk. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:05 | |
'For the viewers on the BBC, the dramatisation of this | 0:16:05 | 0:16:10 | |
'long-neglected saga has become a television legend | 0:16:10 | 0:16:12 | |
'of fact and folklore.' | 0:16:12 | 0:16:14 | |
The Forsyte Saga was an expensive gamble which paid off. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:19 | |
Running for 26 weeks and costing | 0:16:19 | 0:16:21 | |
an unprecedented quarter of a million pounds, | 0:16:21 | 0:16:23 | |
it told the story of one feuding family, and revolved | 0:16:23 | 0:16:27 | |
around the turbulent relationship between Soames and his wife, Irene. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:30 | |
-Hello, Soames. Nose down to business? -Shouldn't I? | 0:16:30 | 0:16:34 | |
Certainly, but don't deprive your pretty wife of her pleasures. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:37 | |
-Champagne. -She's a good-looking woman. I'm told they don't get on. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:41 | |
'Traditional British drinking habits | 0:16:41 | 0:16:43 | |
'have been disrupted to suit the saga.' | 0:16:43 | 0:16:44 | |
'It became quite clear very early on' | 0:16:44 | 0:16:46 | |
this was phone-off-the-hook time, | 0:16:46 | 0:16:49 | |
because the country was hooked. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:52 | |
Very pretty. | 0:16:56 | 0:16:58 | |
It was the kind of forerunner of the soaps we have today. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:01 | |
It was a posh soap, really. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:03 | |
Kill me if you like. I'd rather you killed me. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:06 | |
Kill you? Why should I? No, there's no need to kill you. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:09 | |
-Anybody can have you, can't they? -No! No! | 0:17:09 | 0:17:12 | |
'The public reacted very strongly, | 0:17:12 | 0:17:14 | |
'either on the side of Soames or on the side of Irene.' | 0:17:14 | 0:17:17 | |
If I had to marry over again, I would marry my same wife over again, | 0:17:17 | 0:17:21 | |
or a woman as near to Irene as I could find. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:24 | |
To me, he's a figure like Othello or Orpheus, | 0:17:24 | 0:17:28 | |
dedicated to love, and this is perhaps not a very British type, | 0:17:28 | 0:17:32 | |
but I hope that it will become more so in the future. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:35 | |
Irene and Soames were to part, but the feuding carried on | 0:17:35 | 0:17:38 | |
into the next generation, coming between young lovers Jon and Fleur. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:42 | |
Hello, Jon. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:44 | |
Hello, Fleur. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:47 | |
There was a way that we had of acting, | 0:17:47 | 0:17:50 | |
which was very well-spoken, of course. | 0:17:50 | 0:17:52 | |
It would hurt Mother terribly. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:55 | |
You've got to choose. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:57 | |
I would say, "I love you, Fleur." She'd say, "I love you, Jon." | 0:17:57 | 0:18:01 | |
Good night, my darling Jon. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:05 | |
Dream about me. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:06 | |
'We just did it like a live show. There wasn't any time to spare.' | 0:18:06 | 0:18:11 | |
'I had to race across the studio, out of my pyjamas, I'd already got | 0:18:11 | 0:18:15 | |
'my dinner jacket trousers on underneath, | 0:18:15 | 0:18:18 | |
'the dresser would put my jacket and everything, smarten me up, | 0:18:18 | 0:18:21 | |
'and I'd trip over a couple of cables on my way to the drawing-room set, | 0:18:21 | 0:18:25 | |
'where Ny was just finishing this Chopin Etude, and I'd get into place, | 0:18:25 | 0:18:31 | |
'leaning on the piano, just as the camera came round to me.' | 0:18:31 | 0:18:35 | |
When I commissioned the Forsyte Saga for BBC Two, | 0:18:40 | 0:18:43 | |
a couple of years later, I had started London Weekend | 0:18:43 | 0:18:46 | |
and I had Forsyte Saga against me on BBC One, | 0:18:46 | 0:18:49 | |
so I was really hoist on my own petard. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:52 | |
'The results so far, | 0:18:52 | 0:18:54 | |
'sales to 27 countries ranging from Sweden to Zambia.' | 0:18:54 | 0:18:59 | |
SOAMES DUBBED: Stupido! Impossible! | 0:18:59 | 0:19:03 | |
Tomorrow, BBC Two starts it colour-launching programmes. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:07 | |
I thought, "Well, the BBC was the first in the world to produce | 0:19:07 | 0:19:11 | |
"public viewing television pictures. We aught to be the first in colour." | 0:19:11 | 0:19:15 | |
But the difficulty was we hadn't got enough cameras. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:18 | |
It suddenly dawned on me that if we put just four of those cameras | 0:19:23 | 0:19:28 | |
in Wimbledon, we could televise for hours and hours and hours and hours. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:33 | |
We guaranteed if you'd got a colour set, you would get | 0:19:35 | 0:19:38 | |
so many hours of colour a week, and boy, did Wimbledon help in that. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:42 | |
And we were the first in Europe, as a consequence. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:45 | |
The Germans were furious, I'm happy to say! | 0:19:45 | 0:19:49 | |
CHURCH ORGAN PLAYS | 0:19:49 | 0:19:51 | |
David Attenborough's BBC Two really wanted to put TV colour to the test. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:57 | |
Architecture and works of art were the ideal subjects. | 0:19:57 | 0:20:00 | |
There could only be one man to front it. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:04 | |
What is civilisation? | 0:20:06 | 0:20:08 | |
I don't know. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:09 | |
If there was a big exhibition on, | 0:20:09 | 0:20:11 | |
K Clark was the man who was called in to do it. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:15 | |
I can't define it in abstract terms yet, | 0:20:15 | 0:20:18 | |
but I think I can recognise it | 0:20:18 | 0:20:20 | |
when I see it, and I'm looking at it now. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:23 | |
Clark produced the first script, the first programme, | 0:20:27 | 0:20:32 | |
and Michael Gill read it and went to Clark and said, "This is hopeless." | 0:20:32 | 0:20:36 | |
And Daddy had to go to him and tear it all up, | 0:20:36 | 0:20:40 | |
and say, we've got to start again, and wrote it with him. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:44 | |
Ruskin said, | 0:20:44 | 0:20:45 | |
"Great nations write their autobiographies in three manuscripts. | 0:20:45 | 0:20:49 | |
"The book of their deeds, a book of their words and a book of their art. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:54 | |
"But of the three the only trustworthy one is the last." | 0:20:54 | 0:20:58 | |
He thought he had a very off-putting manner, and that he was very cold. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:03 | |
The long dominance of the barbarous wanderers was over, | 0:21:03 | 0:21:06 | |
and Western Europe was prepared for its first great age of civilisation. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:11 | |
GREGORIAN CHANTING | 0:21:11 | 0:21:15 | |
'People feel embraced by the grandeur of the arts,' | 0:21:15 | 0:21:18 | |
without really being talked down to. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
One does think of him as lofty, but actually, | 0:21:21 | 0:21:23 | |
that script was very simple, | 0:21:23 | 0:21:25 | |
'and the mellifluousness of it was a kind of friendly act on television.' | 0:21:25 | 0:21:30 | |
What happened? | 0:21:30 | 0:21:32 | |
Well, it took Gibbon nine volumes to describe | 0:21:32 | 0:21:35 | |
The Decline And Fall Of The Roman Empire, | 0:21:35 | 0:21:37 | |
and I shall not embark on that. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:39 | |
When colour came, of course, we were able to do snooker, | 0:21:42 | 0:21:45 | |
and that was a HUGE success. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:47 | |
Nobody had been able to do it before | 0:21:47 | 0:21:49 | |
because all the balls were looking grey. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:52 | |
TED LOWE: For those of you in black-and-white, | 0:21:52 | 0:21:54 | |
it's the green over that bottom pocket that he's looking at. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:56 | |
POT BLACK THEME PLAYS | 0:21:56 | 0:22:00 | |
In 1969, when I first put Pot Black together, | 0:22:00 | 0:22:04 | |
I couldn't get eight players. | 0:22:04 | 0:22:08 | |
There were only seven. | 0:22:08 | 0:22:11 | |
'Pot Black was born by creating | 0:22:11 | 0:22:13 | |
'a professional of the amateur champion to make up eight players.' | 0:22:13 | 0:22:18 | |
At the moment, Charlton, with a break of eight, | 0:22:19 | 0:22:22 | |
sits right in the middle of the reds. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:24 | |
'When I first started, there was no such things as commentary boxes.' | 0:22:24 | 0:22:28 | |
I sat in amongst the audience who I was scared to death might hear | 0:22:28 | 0:22:32 | |
what I was going to say. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:33 | |
(So I talked very quietly into the microphone.) | 0:22:33 | 0:22:37 | |
The culmination of 16 weeks. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:40 | |
The grand finale, and it's the defender | 0:22:40 | 0:22:44 | |
versus the challenger, the challenger breaking off. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:47 | |
The big break for me was getting invited into Pot Black. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:50 | |
I mean, that was the big thing, | 0:22:50 | 0:22:52 | |
'because it got your face known around the country.' | 0:22:52 | 0:22:55 | |
Dennis Taylor, making his debut, | 0:22:55 | 0:22:57 | |
and at the same time giving four points away. | 0:22:57 | 0:23:00 | |
The grounding you got just playing that one frame | 0:23:00 | 0:23:02 | |
enabled you to cope with all sorts of pressures | 0:23:02 | 0:23:06 | |
later on in your career. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:07 | |
A big smile. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:10 | |
'What the professionals of snooker are receiving' | 0:23:10 | 0:23:13 | |
today is all down to that funny little programme called Pot Black. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:19 | |
POT BLACK THEME PLAYS | 0:23:19 | 0:23:20 | |
GOODIES THEME PLAYS | 0:23:24 | 0:23:26 | |
The Goodies combined the comedic talents of Bill Oddie, | 0:23:28 | 0:23:31 | |
Graeme Garden and Tim Brooke-Taylor... | 0:23:31 | 0:23:34 | |
..together with a whole bunch of technical wizardry. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:39 | |
This is day two of Twinkle's occupation of the City of London. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:48 | |
Michael Aspel, BBC, London. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:57 | |
Hello, and welcome to this week's Whistle Test. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:02 | |
WHISTLE TEST THEME PLAYS | 0:24:02 | 0:24:04 | |
The BBC were looking to find a niche | 0:24:07 | 0:24:09 | |
for this kind of new, developing album music, | 0:24:09 | 0:24:13 | |
singer-songwriter, progressive music, | 0:24:13 | 0:24:16 | |
and across the board, you know, | 0:24:16 | 0:24:18 | |
the programme became fantastically eclectic. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:20 | |
Music was being treated a bit more seriously. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:23 | |
It wasn't just the pop of Top Of The Pops, | 0:24:23 | 0:24:27 | |
and I thought television should reflect that. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:29 | |
# The world is getting out of our control. # | 0:24:29 | 0:24:32 | |
It was so great to work in there for bands who came in. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:38 | |
I mean, there was a sense of freedom about the programme | 0:24:38 | 0:24:41 | |
that encouraged them to be expressive. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:44 | |
The time that we realised the impact the programme was beginning to have | 0:24:52 | 0:24:56 | |
was when Focus appeared on the show. | 0:24:56 | 0:24:58 | |
Polydor, the record label, | 0:25:00 | 0:25:02 | |
had had to transfer all pressing plant activity | 0:25:02 | 0:25:08 | |
to the pressing of Focus albums | 0:25:08 | 0:25:10 | |
for the next ten days to try and keep up with the demand | 0:25:10 | 0:25:13 | |
that had been created from their appearance on the programme. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:16 | |
If you're putting out something and you don't really know | 0:25:16 | 0:25:18 | |
whether people want to see it or not and you get that response, | 0:25:18 | 0:25:21 | |
it sort of charges the battery to go on for a bit longer. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:24 | |
It became one of the great experiences of my life, | 0:25:30 | 0:25:33 | |
you know, my seven years of Whistle Test, it was fantastic. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:37 | |
The late '60s and early '70s saw an explosion in costume drama. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:47 | |
Ingrate! | 0:25:48 | 0:25:51 | |
But perhaps the most unlikely success of all | 0:25:53 | 0:25:56 | |
was an everyday story of Roman folk. | 0:25:56 | 0:25:59 | |
I, Claudius was a kind of | 0:26:02 | 0:26:04 | |
domestic drama about the most powerful family in the Western world. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:10 | |
It's the story of | 0:26:12 | 0:26:13 | |
an apparently semi-idiotic Roman aristocrat | 0:26:13 | 0:26:19 | |
'called Claudius.' | 0:26:19 | 0:26:21 | |
If that head of yours doesn't stop twitching, | 0:26:21 | 0:26:23 | |
I'll have it off and stuck on a pole. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:25 | |
That'll fix it. | 0:26:25 | 0:26:27 | |
Th-th-thank you, Grandma. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:29 | |
Who, as a result of all kinds of miserable and violent, | 0:26:29 | 0:26:35 | |
vicious manoeuvrings, eventually finds himself | 0:26:35 | 0:26:38 | |
in a position in which he is being made Emperor of Rome. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:43 | |
Senators, I understand you do not want another emperor, | 0:26:43 | 0:26:51 | |
but it seems you have... been given one. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:54 | |
The decision to shoot I, Claudius in the studio was an artistic one. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:59 | |
It wasn't based on money. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:00 | |
There is an intensity and a concentration in a studio | 0:27:00 | 0:27:04 | |
that you do not get, I feel, on locations. | 0:27:04 | 0:27:07 | |
He believes that she poisoned our grandfather. | 0:27:07 | 0:27:10 | |
He believes she will stop at nothing to ensure Tiberius follows Augustus. | 0:27:10 | 0:27:14 | |
He believes she's mad! | 0:27:14 | 0:27:16 | |
-SIAN PHILLIPS: -'We didn't get very good notices at first.' | 0:27:17 | 0:27:20 | |
And I said all that - p-p-p-p - without stuttering! Well, n-nearly. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:26 | |
The fact that we were all in togas and doing very authentically | 0:27:26 | 0:27:30 | |
Roman things, but talking in modern English, they found it very weird. | 0:27:30 | 0:27:36 | |
What is the watchword for tonight, Caesar? | 0:27:36 | 0:27:38 | |
What about, give us a kiss? | 0:27:38 | 0:27:42 | |
Then the critics started to realise the style of it, | 0:27:44 | 0:27:46 | |
and then people caught on. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:48 | |
-How long have we been married? -Don't you remember? | 0:27:48 | 0:27:51 | |
50 years, and in all that time, | 0:27:51 | 0:27:53 | |
you've never been able to tell one plant | 0:27:53 | 0:27:55 | |
from another, and suddenly, you know all there is to know about pruning. | 0:27:55 | 0:27:59 | |
Wonderful! | 0:27:59 | 0:28:00 | |
The things that work best on television are the family. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:07 | |
'I think that was the fascination of it.' | 0:28:07 | 0:28:10 | |
To tell you the truth, I couldn't give a damn about Drusus and Nero. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:13 | |
But they're your brothers! | 0:28:13 | 0:28:14 | |
Yes, I know, but then you don't like Aunt Livilla, | 0:28:14 | 0:28:17 | |
and she is your sister. | 0:28:17 | 0:28:19 | |
Now, I love my sisters, Uncle. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:22 | |
Yes, I know. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:25 | |
It is the king the king of soaps. It is what a soap should be. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:29 | |
Quite a story, wasn't it? | 0:28:29 | 0:28:33 | |
# Oh, what happened to you? | 0:28:36 | 0:28:40 | |
# Whatever happened to me? | 0:28:40 | 0:28:42 | |
# And what became of the people | 0:28:44 | 0:28:47 | |
# We used to be? | 0:28:47 | 0:28:51 | |
# Tomorrow's almost over | 0:28:51 | 0:28:54 | |
# Today went by so fast | 0:28:54 | 0:28:58 | |
# It's the only thing to look forward to | 0:28:58 | 0:29:02 | |
# The past... # | 0:29:02 | 0:29:05 |