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'It was a show that went out three nights a week, live...' | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
Mr Wogan, you're on... | 0:00:04 | 0:00:05 | |
'..with a live audience and everyone who is anyone dropping in, | 0:00:05 | 0:00:09 | |
'the great and the good, the bad and the ugly | 0:00:09 | 0:00:12 | |
'and they called it Wogan. Ha! I never knew why. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:15 | |
'So, if you're sitting comfortably, | 0:00:15 | 0:00:17 | |
'I'll show you something I made earlier.' | 0:00:17 | 0:00:20 | |
God knows what they'll make of us in 25 years' time. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:23 | |
Welcome. Now, today we're hoping to put a smile | 0:00:35 | 0:00:38 | |
on your crusty old features | 0:00:38 | 0:00:40 | |
with some big names from the world of comedy | 0:00:40 | 0:00:42 | |
who dropped by over the years and tickled our funny bones. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:46 | |
They include John Cleese, | 0:00:46 | 0:00:49 | |
Joan Rivers, | 0:00:49 | 0:00:50 | |
Ronnie Barker, | 0:00:50 | 0:00:51 | |
Rik Mayall | 0:00:51 | 0:00:53 | |
and Bob Hope. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:55 | |
We're starting with two men who found huge success | 0:00:55 | 0:00:58 | |
as a great comic duo | 0:00:58 | 0:00:59 | |
and then even greater success branching off on their own. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:03 | |
Here they are, back in the days when they seemed to be joined at the hip, | 0:01:03 | 0:01:07 | |
Stephen Fry and Hugh Laurie. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:10 | |
Could you give us a picture of your working day? | 0:01:10 | 0:01:13 | |
How does your day...? | 0:01:13 | 0:01:15 | |
Not a photograph, no, just a sort of mental picture. | 0:01:15 | 0:01:18 | |
-I mean, basically, how do two people write together... -Yes. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:22 | |
-..is the endless question... -That's what he's asking. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:25 | |
Oh, yes, that's right. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:26 | |
Does one person hold the pencil | 0:01:26 | 0:01:28 | |
and the other person write, as it were? | 0:01:28 | 0:01:30 | |
-Who writes the music? -Does one person pace up and down? That kind of thing. | 0:01:30 | 0:01:33 | |
Well, we have this thing of sitting in front of different desks. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:36 | |
Very important, different desks. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:38 | |
And essentially what happens is, you know, | 0:01:38 | 0:01:41 | |
I'll write something and get fed up with it and give it to Hugh | 0:01:41 | 0:01:44 | |
and he'll give me what he's doing - we swap work, essentially. | 0:01:44 | 0:01:47 | |
Are you sensitive to criticism from each other? | 0:01:47 | 0:01:49 | |
Do you boldly criticise each other? Because you are chums. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:52 | |
We are chums, but we don't boldly criticise each other, we have... | 0:01:52 | 0:01:55 | |
We basically say exactly the same thing - | 0:01:55 | 0:01:58 | |
whether we think it's great or terrible, | 0:01:58 | 0:02:00 | |
we say, "That's great!" | 0:02:00 | 0:02:01 | |
Yes. GENTLE LAUGHTER | 0:02:01 | 0:02:02 | |
But you can say, "That's great!" Or you can say... | 0:02:02 | 0:02:05 | |
-LOWER PITCH -.."That's great." | 0:02:05 | 0:02:07 | |
-There's a very big difference. -There is. | 0:02:07 | 0:02:09 | |
-And you're sensitive to that? -Absolutely. -Yes. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:11 | |
We criticise ourselves... | 0:02:11 | 0:02:14 | |
I mean, I'll write something and say, | 0:02:14 | 0:02:15 | |
"Hugh, this is completely awful, terrible, worst thing ever written, | 0:02:15 | 0:02:18 | |
"but perhaps you can do something with it. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:20 | |
And he'll say, "No, it's brilliant, it's not as bad as this." | 0:02:20 | 0:02:23 | |
And he gives me what he's written | 0:02:23 | 0:02:24 | |
and I say, "Yours is brilliant, mine is awful", | 0:02:24 | 0:02:26 | |
-and it goes on like that - feeble, really. -Awful, yes. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:29 | |
Do you ever find yourselves, now you've worked together for so long, | 0:02:29 | 0:02:32 | |
do you find yourselves writing the same lines, doing the same stuff? | 0:02:32 | 0:02:35 | |
-Independent of each other? -Er... | 0:02:35 | 0:02:38 | |
BOTH: Sometimes. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:40 | |
-Oh, you see? Isn't it incredible? Amazing. -Extraordinary. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:43 | |
Can't be just coincidence. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:45 | |
There's some kind of extrasensory thing going on. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:47 | |
-That's right, and we often finish our own... -Um, sentence... | 0:02:47 | 0:02:51 | |
-I was going to say breakfast. -Oh, breakfast... LAUGHTER | 0:02:51 | 0:02:54 | |
-Yes. -It is uncanny. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:55 | |
And you're also going to be seen as Jeeves and Wooster again? | 0:02:55 | 0:02:58 | |
-Series three of that? -This is true, yes. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:00 | |
-Yes. That's very good fun to do. -It must be great. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:02 | |
Dressing up in those clothes and everything. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:04 | |
Great clothes, great cars and everything. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:06 | |
And also, because we don't write it, | 0:03:06 | 0:03:08 | |
the scripts arrive in beautiful brown envelopes and they're great, | 0:03:08 | 0:03:11 | |
you don't have to worry about what you say, just read it out. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:13 | |
-Well, you learn it, then read it out, people would notice... -LAUGHTER | 0:03:13 | 0:03:17 | |
-That would be shoddy, frankly, it would be shoddy. -Yes. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:20 | |
But that is great fun, it really is. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:22 | |
I noticed, however, that the pair of you are really slipping in | 0:03:22 | 0:03:26 | |
to the old Des O'Connor-Bruce Forsyth syndrome, aren't you? | 0:03:26 | 0:03:29 | |
-Hello? -Appalling thing to say. -LAUGHTER | 0:03:29 | 0:03:31 | |
-No, no, no. -I have lawyers, you know. -Be fair. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:34 | |
-Be fair - you've got an album from the series coming up. -Oh. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:37 | |
-Oh, yes, I see, yes, I see. -Yes, referring to the album. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:41 | |
More bum than Al, I think, in this case... | 0:03:41 | 0:03:43 | |
Are you singing? | 0:03:43 | 0:03:44 | |
-Yes, there is singing. -Who's singing? -Hugh's singing. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:47 | |
-I do a bit of singing. -Do you? | 0:03:47 | 0:03:48 | |
Hugh's got a wonderful, Hugh is musically brilliant. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:51 | |
I'm sorry, but he is, and he refuses to come out about it. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:53 | |
And I'm outing him now. LAUGHTER | 0:03:53 | 0:03:57 | |
He can play anything, he really can. | 0:03:57 | 0:03:58 | |
Mouth organ, saxophone, piano and guitar and I am hopeless. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:01 | |
What do you do? Do you tap dance in the background? | 0:04:01 | 0:04:04 | |
No, well, there's some dialogue written. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:06 | |
It's not just songs, there's bits of dialogue in it. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:09 | |
I sprechgesang, as I believe it's called, | 0:04:09 | 0:04:13 | |
you know, like Rex Harrison in My Fair Lady - | 0:04:13 | 0:04:15 | |
I sort of speak, but I have Van Gogh's ear for music. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:18 | |
I must say, it sounds as if it's not going to work. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:21 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:04:21 | 0:04:24 | |
-Yes. -The surprising thing is it does. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:26 | |
TERRY LAUGHS | 0:04:26 | 0:04:27 | |
-Are we overselling it? -Yeah. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:29 | |
-No... -It's a cracking, well, they've also taken the period, I mean, | 0:04:29 | 0:04:33 | |
the actual '20s and '30s dance tunes of the day | 0:04:33 | 0:04:36 | |
were just fabulous stuff, you know, | 0:04:36 | 0:04:38 | |
and the arrangements that they got, you know, your foot is tapping. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:42 | |
-Is it? -Not now. -No. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:44 | |
But it will be when you put it on your CD player, | 0:04:44 | 0:04:47 | |
-as I'm sure you will. -Grand. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:49 | |
Now, you published a novel. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:51 | |
-Yes. -A slim volume this year and achieved some acclaim... | 0:04:51 | 0:04:56 | |
Yes, most extraordinary. I don't know how it happened, it's very peculiar. | 0:04:56 | 0:05:00 | |
You don't expect these things to occur at all | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
and it seems to be well received and selling very well and I keep | 0:05:03 | 0:05:07 | |
thinking there must be another book of the same name by someone | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
also called Stephen Fry because it's very, very hard to believe. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:13 | |
There's something very permanent about a book. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:15 | |
It's very different from a television series. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:17 | |
You go into a bookshop and you actually see it there, physically. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:20 | |
But now you can talk on the same level | 0:05:20 | 0:05:21 | |
as you can talk to people like Clive James, can't you? | 0:05:21 | 0:05:25 | |
No, no, I don't think so. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:26 | |
I hope I've written a bit higher than that. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:28 | |
I don't want to sound vain, | 0:05:28 | 0:05:30 | |
but I hope we've peaked at a few hundred feet, base camp three. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:33 | |
Have you any ambitions at all? I suppose you're jealous, aren't you? | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
-Deeply jealous, yes, it's maddening. -Tish! | 0:05:36 | 0:05:40 | |
No, well...I think if I ever did it... | 0:05:40 | 0:05:43 | |
If I ever did it, I don't think I'd have the nerve | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
to do it under my own name. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:47 | |
-Would it be sexy, racy stuff? -Oh, lots of sex. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:50 | |
Masses of sex in it, obviously. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:52 | |
I thought, well, I may just pretend that I've already | 0:05:52 | 0:05:54 | |
done that under another name and I may just pretend... | 0:05:54 | 0:05:56 | |
Better sexy and racy than sexist and racist. Isn't that a lovely thought? | 0:05:56 | 0:06:00 | |
-Nicely put. -To take into 1992. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:03 | |
-What a lovely way to finish the interview. -Lovely, lovely way. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:05 | |
-Thank you very much. -Huge pleasure. -Yes, and you. -Not at all. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:09 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:06:09 | 0:06:12 | |
Now, half of one of television's funniest ever double acts. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:25 | |
Only half. I don't want you to peak too soon. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:28 | |
But I'm sure there'll be no complaints, | 0:06:28 | 0:06:30 | |
because it's the bigger Ronnie, | 0:06:30 | 0:06:32 | |
appearing without his little chum, but I asked about him anyway. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:37 | |
What about this Corbett person that you work with? | 0:06:37 | 0:06:39 | |
-He's a man, he's a man. -Is he? -A man, yes. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:42 | |
-How do you get on with him? -Eh? | 0:06:42 | 0:06:44 | |
-How do you get on with him? -I just throw me leg over. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:46 | |
Let's have the truth. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:48 | |
Well, I just... | 0:06:51 | 0:06:53 | |
I take him out in the morning, fit him up | 0:06:53 | 0:06:55 | |
and work through the day, | 0:06:55 | 0:06:57 | |
put him back in the box and that's his part. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:01 | |
No, we get on very... We have a lovely time. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:03 | |
We're rehearsing very hard, we've been rehearsing all today | 0:07:03 | 0:07:06 | |
with those lovely ladies and 12 more and we're working hard. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:10 | |
-Do you fight over scripts? -No. -Do you have disagreements? | 0:07:10 | 0:07:13 | |
We have exactly the same sense of humour. Exactly. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:16 | |
We don't even have to ask each other whether a line is funny. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:21 | |
Well, you do, you say, | 0:07:21 | 0:07:22 | |
"So, what shall we cut here? That line?" | 0:07:22 | 0:07:24 | |
"Yes. That's out, that's out." | 0:07:24 | 0:07:26 | |
"That's good." "Yes, that's fine." | 0:07:26 | 0:07:28 | |
Then we'll cut down to here. We are identical. It's amazing. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:31 | |
It's a very fortuitous meeting, | 0:07:31 | 0:07:33 | |
it was a very fortuitous meeting with David Frost all those years ago. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:36 | |
Is there a danger, when you're working, | 0:07:36 | 0:07:39 | |
that because you're writing your own stuff | 0:07:39 | 0:07:41 | |
and virtually producing it, as well, that you can become self-indulgent? | 0:07:41 | 0:07:45 | |
Yes. There is a great danger | 0:07:45 | 0:07:48 | |
and I think you have to fight it when you can. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:50 | |
Obviously, bits slip through. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:52 | |
Eventually, if I look at a thing three months later, I think, | 0:07:52 | 0:07:55 | |
well, those very words - "We were self-indulgent there." | 0:07:55 | 0:08:00 | |
But you do try and fight it, you've got to. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:03 | |
It's for that reason that I hate now that people know that | 0:08:03 | 0:08:06 | |
I write the scripts, because they used not to know. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:08 | |
I used to write under a pseudonym that no-one knew | 0:08:08 | 0:08:10 | |
and it was wonderful then because they just... | 0:08:10 | 0:08:13 | |
You got their true opinion. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:15 | |
A script came in and I pretended I had never seen it before | 0:08:15 | 0:08:17 | |
and we sat and read it and someone said, "That's not bad." | 0:08:17 | 0:08:20 | |
I said, "It's pretty good. Put it in the pile and we'll do that." | 0:08:20 | 0:08:22 | |
And another one would come in, that I'd written, | 0:08:22 | 0:08:25 | |
sent in through my agent in various ways and they'd say, | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
"Oh, he's let us down this time, that's rubbish." | 0:08:28 | 0:08:31 | |
I'd read it and say, "Rubbish, throw it away." | 0:08:31 | 0:08:34 | |
I would be glad to do that, you see, | 0:08:34 | 0:08:35 | |
because the decisions were being made for me. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
I was being judged on my work, truly. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
I didn't have to worry about people trying not to offend me. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:45 | |
Now, I bring in a script and they say, "Yes, very good, very good." | 0:08:45 | 0:08:51 | |
And I wonder whether they mean that. They might not. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:54 | |
They're too worried to offend me to say so. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:56 | |
Can you be dispassionate enough about your own work | 0:08:56 | 0:08:59 | |
to reject it yourself? | 0:08:59 | 0:09:00 | |
Well, I don't think that's possible. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:04 | |
If you've just written a script, | 0:09:04 | 0:09:05 | |
you don't write things you don't like, | 0:09:05 | 0:09:08 | |
you don't write in, "Right, I'll put a bad line in here", do you? | 0:09:08 | 0:09:10 | |
You write...everything that's in the script... | 0:09:10 | 0:09:13 | |
You read it through and say, | 0:09:13 | 0:09:15 | |
"Maybe that's too long, I'll take it out." | 0:09:15 | 0:09:17 | |
When you look at it, you think, | 0:09:17 | 0:09:18 | |
"That is as good as I can make it. That's how I want it." | 0:09:18 | 0:09:21 | |
But it may not necessarily be good enough. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:23 | |
You're saying yourself, "That is fine." | 0:09:23 | 0:09:25 | |
But other people look at it in the same... | 0:09:25 | 0:09:27 | |
"Well, he thinks that's funny but it isn't really." | 0:09:27 | 0:09:30 | |
You can't judge your own work, really. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:32 | |
I have to rely on people being as honest as they can. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:35 | |
How much longer do you think the Two Ronnies can run? | 0:09:35 | 0:09:38 | |
SIGHING: Um... | 0:09:38 | 0:09:41 | |
I don't know - six, seven, eight... | 0:09:42 | 0:09:45 | |
..days? | 0:09:47 | 0:09:48 | |
No, I don't know. I think it can go on as long as... | 0:09:49 | 0:09:51 | |
You've got to stop it just before people want you to stop it, | 0:09:51 | 0:09:54 | |
-that's the thing. -How do you know? -Exactly. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:57 | |
It's like stop before you hear the bang, when you're backing a car. | 0:09:57 | 0:10:00 | |
You have to stop before you hear the bang and that's what you have to do. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:03 | |
But nobody is nobody is able, are they? | 0:10:03 | 0:10:05 | |
No, no, but you can get a slight slide, | 0:10:05 | 0:10:08 | |
little tiny feeling of something a bit stale. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:12 | |
Traditionally, when that begins to happen to great comedians, | 0:10:12 | 0:10:17 | |
comics or comic acts or actors, | 0:10:17 | 0:10:20 | |
they take the money and go to the other side. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:24 | |
The other side, yes. I don't think it helps, does it? | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
It doesn't make a bit of difference which side you're on. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:31 | |
It's the writing, it's the scripts, it's the people you work with. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:37 | |
The actors you work with. Of course, the directors matter. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:40 | |
If you go over and find a terrible director, | 0:10:40 | 0:10:42 | |
the show won't be as good, but I think people go... | 0:10:42 | 0:10:45 | |
When they go, they change the format, as well. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:48 | |
But if you do a comedy show and you throw out your writers and say, | 0:10:48 | 0:10:52 | |
"I'm going to ITV," you go over and get a new lot of writers. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
We're going to do it all different, we're not going to sit there | 0:10:55 | 0:10:57 | |
and have news items and all that and a musical bit at the end. | 0:10:57 | 0:11:00 | |
Throw all that out. We've these new writers. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:02 | |
Then you can go - zump! - like that. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:04 | |
You think the same format should be sustained? | 0:11:04 | 0:11:07 | |
If you're going to continue with The Two Ronnies, | 0:11:07 | 0:11:10 | |
you should have the news at the beginning, | 0:11:10 | 0:11:12 | |
a little bit and then various sketches | 0:11:12 | 0:11:13 | |
and the same format sustained? | 0:11:13 | 0:11:16 | |
I think we were...unluckily lucky. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:20 | |
Unluckily lucky. I mean...what do I mean? | 0:11:20 | 0:11:22 | |
Unluckily fortunate. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:24 | |
Luckily, we were unfortunate. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:26 | |
No, unfortunately, we were lucky - that's it, yes. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:29 | |
Because we hit on a very good format for episode one of series one | 0:11:29 | 0:11:35 | |
and if you've got a good format, you do think you ought to change it | 0:11:35 | 0:11:38 | |
and we've been thinking, "Shall we change something?" | 0:11:38 | 0:11:41 | |
But then you try and change it and think, | 0:11:41 | 0:11:43 | |
"Well, that's not better, that's worse." | 0:11:43 | 0:11:45 | |
So, in other words, if you're onto a good thing, stick to it | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
until someone suddenly says it's not so good or it's slightly good. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:53 | |
May I mention - I'm sure I can mention now to you, lovely friends - | 0:11:53 | 0:11:56 | |
Morecambe and Wise? | 0:11:56 | 0:11:57 | |
Now, you see, I think... | 0:11:57 | 0:11:59 | |
People have said to me, | 0:11:59 | 0:12:00 | |
"Morecambe and Wise isn't what it was when it was on the BBC." | 0:12:00 | 0:12:05 | |
I don't know why they say that. I think it's exactly the same. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:08 | |
I think when you move, people also expect you to be much better, | 0:12:08 | 0:12:14 | |
not just the same, and if you're just the same, | 0:12:14 | 0:12:16 | |
it seems to them as if you've gone down. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:18 | |
I don't think...I think they are exactly as good as they ever were. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:22 | |
But I think it's a very dangerous thing to move about. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:24 | |
Why move about, honestly? It's lovely here, isn't it? | 0:12:24 | 0:12:27 | |
-Don't you like it here? -I like it here. -Sunny, look at it. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:30 | |
Mind you, it's the day before yesterday. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:34 | |
It is, yes. By today, it'll be pouring with rain. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:37 | |
I like you because you're a very well set-up man. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:40 | |
-Fat, you mean. -Like myself. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:41 | |
You know this latest thing about keeping fit | 0:12:42 | 0:12:45 | |
and we've all seen Harry Secombe. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:47 | |
Harry Secombe, now, has lost 4st. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:49 | |
He weighs exactly the same as me now. 14st 10. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
He's the same height as me, | 0:12:52 | 0:12:54 | |
but I now look twice as big as him, don't I? | 0:12:54 | 0:12:56 | |
We're the same... | 0:12:56 | 0:12:59 | |
-Can I stand up? -Stand up. -I mean, may I stand up? | 0:12:59 | 0:13:02 | |
I know I can, I haven't been drinking. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:04 | |
What a fine figure of a man. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:07 | |
But you see, I look twice as big as Harry, don't I? | 0:13:17 | 0:13:19 | |
"Hello, folks!" | 0:13:19 | 0:13:21 | |
That's Eric Morecambe's saying. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:23 | |
Do you think if you did lose weight...? | 0:13:23 | 0:13:25 | |
-Oh, my feet - eh? -Put them up here. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:26 | |
Do you think if you did lose weight... | 0:13:26 | 0:13:28 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:13:28 | 0:13:30 | |
..that you'd lose some of your charm and popularity? | 0:13:30 | 0:13:33 | |
Er...well, I wouldn't lose any of my charm. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:36 | |
I might lose a little popularity, I suppose, yes. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:39 | |
How many knots have you got in these? | 0:13:39 | 0:13:43 | |
Sir John Notts, they are. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:45 | |
Whatever happened to him? | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 | |
He, er...are looking for holes in my socks? | 0:13:48 | 0:13:50 | |
Argh! RONNIE LAUGHS | 0:13:50 | 0:13:52 | |
I was letting him tie them together, I thought he was going to tie the two together. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:56 | |
You see, I was playing feed. | 0:13:56 | 0:13:58 | |
Are you a funny man at home? | 0:13:58 | 0:14:00 | |
No - I never go home, no. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:02 | |
Sometimes I'm funny. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:11 | |
I make my wife laugh, but she'd laugh to see a pudding crawl, as they say. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:14 | |
That's the essence of a happy marriage, | 0:14:17 | 0:14:19 | |
as long as you can make your wife laugh. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:21 | |
Well, I made her laugh the first night. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:23 | |
It wasn't all merry banter and manly joshing. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:31 | |
Wogan was awash with this song as well as story. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:35 | |
Take young Phil Collins, for example. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:37 | |
# I need love, love | 0:14:45 | 0:14:46 | |
# Ooh, to ease my mind | 0:14:46 | 0:14:49 | |
# And I need to find time | 0:14:49 | 0:14:51 | |
# Someone to call mine | 0:14:51 | 0:14:53 | |
# My mama said | 0:14:53 | 0:14:54 | |
# You can't hurry love | 0:14:54 | 0:14:56 | |
# No, you'll just have to wait | 0:14:56 | 0:14:58 | |
# She said love don't come easy | 0:14:58 | 0:15:01 | |
# But it's a game of give and take | 0:15:01 | 0:15:04 | |
# You can't hurry love | 0:15:04 | 0:15:06 | |
# No, you'll just have to wait | 0:15:06 | 0:15:08 | |
# Just trust in a good time | 0:15:08 | 0:15:11 | |
# No matter how long it takes | 0:15:11 | 0:15:13 | |
# How many heartaches must I stand | 0:15:13 | 0:15:18 | |
# Before I find the love to let me live again? | 0:15:18 | 0:15:23 | |
# Right now the only thing that keeps me hanging on | 0:15:23 | 0:15:28 | |
# When I feel my strength | 0:15:28 | 0:15:30 | |
# You know it's almost gone | 0:15:30 | 0:15:32 | |
# I remember Mama said | 0:15:32 | 0:15:33 | |
# You can't hurry love | 0:15:33 | 0:15:35 | |
# No, you'll just have to wait | 0:15:35 | 0:15:38 | |
# She said love don't come easy | 0:15:38 | 0:15:41 | |
# It's a game of give and take | 0:15:41 | 0:15:43 | |
# How long must I wait? | 0:15:43 | 0:15:45 | |
# How much more must I take | 0:15:45 | 0:15:47 | |
# Before loneliness | 0:15:47 | 0:15:50 | |
# Will cause my heart, heart to break? | 0:15:50 | 0:15:53 | |
# No, I can't bear to live my life alone | 0:15:53 | 0:15:57 | |
# I grow impatient for a love to call my own | 0:15:57 | 0:16:02 | |
# But when I feel that I | 0:16:02 | 0:16:04 | |
# I can't go on | 0:16:04 | 0:16:07 | |
# When I feel my strength | 0:16:07 | 0:16:09 | |
# You know it's almost gone | 0:16:09 | 0:16:11 | |
# I remember Mama said | 0:16:11 | 0:16:12 | |
# You can't hurry love | 0:16:12 | 0:16:14 | |
# No, you'll just have to wait | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
# She said love don't come easy | 0:16:17 | 0:16:19 | |
# It's a game of give and take | 0:16:19 | 0:16:22 | |
# You can't hurry love | 0:16:22 | 0:16:24 | |
# You'll just have to wait | 0:16:24 | 0:16:27 | |
# Just trust in a good time | 0:16:27 | 0:16:29 | |
# No matter how long it takes | 0:16:29 | 0:16:31 | |
# Now break | 0:16:31 | 0:16:33 | |
# Now love, love don't come easy | 0:16:34 | 0:16:39 | |
# But I keep on waiting | 0:16:39 | 0:16:41 | |
# Anticipating | 0:16:41 | 0:16:43 | |
# For that soft voice | 0:16:43 | 0:16:46 | |
# To talk to me at night | 0:16:46 | 0:16:48 | |
# For some tender arms | 0:16:48 | 0:16:51 | |
# Hold me tight | 0:16:51 | 0:16:53 | |
# I keep waiting | 0:16:53 | 0:16:55 | |
# Ooh, till that day | 0:16:55 | 0:16:58 | |
# But it ain't easy | 0:16:58 | 0:17:00 | |
# No, it ain't easy | 0:17:00 | 0:17:02 | |
# My mama said | 0:17:02 | 0:17:03 | |
# You can't hurry love | 0:17:03 | 0:17:05 | |
# No, you'll just have to wait | 0:17:05 | 0:17:08 | |
# She said love don't come easy | 0:17:08 | 0:17:11 | |
# It's a game of give and take | 0:17:11 | 0:17:13 | |
# You can't hurry love | 0:17:13 | 0:17:15 | |
# No, you'll just have to wait | 0:17:15 | 0:17:18 | |
# She said trust in the good times | 0:17:18 | 0:17:21 | |
# No matter how long it takes | 0:17:21 | 0:17:22 | |
# Now break. # | 0:17:22 | 0:17:24 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:17:25 | 0:17:27 | |
Now, an old appearance from a Young One in his prime. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:37 | |
The late Rik Mayall, no less, who, back then, | 0:17:37 | 0:17:40 | |
was at the forefront of a new wave of humour | 0:17:40 | 0:17:42 | |
they called alternative comedy | 0:17:42 | 0:17:44 | |
and they didn't mean it as an alternative to laughter. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:47 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:17:49 | 0:17:53 | |
Er, hi. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:08 | |
Hi, er, my name is Rik. | 0:18:15 | 0:18:18 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:18:23 | 0:18:25 | |
What? | 0:18:25 | 0:18:26 | |
What is it? | 0:18:28 | 0:18:29 | |
What is it? What's going on? | 0:18:31 | 0:18:33 | |
You're a pretty nutty bunch, aren't you? | 0:18:36 | 0:18:39 | |
I'm pretty nutty, as well, I don't care what I do. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:42 | |
I broke a teacup in the dressing room just now, just like that. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:46 | |
I mean, it was an accident and everything | 0:18:46 | 0:18:48 | |
but I didn't report it or anything. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:49 | |
I'm just mad, mad! | 0:18:49 | 0:18:51 | |
Knowing me, it's a bit like being on the road with the Who. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:55 | |
Actually, in fact, one of my friends said that to me the other day. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:58 | |
He said, "Hey, Rik, | 0:18:58 | 0:18:59 | |
"knowing you is a bit like being on the road with The Who, isn't it?" | 0:18:59 | 0:19:02 | |
I said, "With the who?" | 0:19:02 | 0:19:04 | |
Straight off that top of my head. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:05 | |
I hadn't planned to say it or anything. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:08 | |
It was mad, I don't care. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:09 | |
HE BLOWS RASPBERRIES | 0:19:09 | 0:19:11 | |
Can you see all right at the back? | 0:19:12 | 0:19:15 | |
Well, what are you doing wearing glasses then? | 0:19:15 | 0:19:17 | |
Why did the monkey fall out of the tree? | 0:19:23 | 0:19:25 | |
Because it was dead. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:27 | |
No, we're all potty - I'm potty and all my friends are potty as well. | 0:19:30 | 0:19:33 | |
In fact, the other night, right, we were all in the pub together | 0:19:33 | 0:19:37 | |
and...well, I was in a different pub | 0:19:37 | 0:19:39 | |
because they told me the wrong pub to go to as a joke. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:42 | |
And... | 0:19:42 | 0:19:44 | |
That's true. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:45 | |
But I found out where they were because I went to Timmy's | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
and paid his mother to tell me where they were. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:51 | |
I went along and as soon as I got in there, they all said, | 0:19:51 | 0:19:54 | |
"Oh, God, it's Rik. We're going to a party and you're not invited." | 0:19:54 | 0:19:57 | |
And they all ran away. | 0:19:57 | 0:19:58 | |
I chased after them and they jumped onto the bus | 0:19:58 | 0:20:00 | |
and I couldn't quite catch up. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:02 | |
I was running alongside the bus | 0:20:02 | 0:20:03 | |
and they were throwing cans of lager at my head | 0:20:03 | 0:20:06 | |
and swearing and everything and telling me that nobody liked me. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:09 | |
It was brilliant. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:10 | |
And then, I chased them for about five miles | 0:20:12 | 0:20:14 | |
and we got to the house where the party was | 0:20:14 | 0:20:16 | |
and it was my house. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:18 | |
They said, "You're still not invited." | 0:20:18 | 0:20:20 | |
And they went in and they smashed it all to pieces. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:22 | |
And I had to pay. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:24 | |
It was brilliant. We do loads of jokes like that all the time. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:29 | |
Anyway... | 0:20:29 | 0:20:31 | |
I wasn't going to do this. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:33 | |
But seeing as you're all such fascists, | 0:20:33 | 0:20:35 | |
as a special treat, | 0:20:35 | 0:20:36 | |
I'm going to bring down the state tonight. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:39 | |
And that is why I've written a poem - pretty heavy poem, actually. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:43 | |
And, er... | 0:20:43 | 0:20:45 | |
AUDIENCE MEMBER LAUGHS | 0:20:45 | 0:20:47 | |
And shut up, please. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:49 | |
It's easy to laugh, isn't it? | 0:20:49 | 0:20:51 | |
Shut up, shut up! | 0:20:51 | 0:20:52 | |
It's an angry poem I've written and it's called Thatcher. | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
And I'm working on it at the moment. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:02 | |
THATCHER! | 0:21:03 | 0:21:05 | |
That's about as far as I've got with it at the moment. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:09 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:21:10 | 0:21:12 | |
Oh, shut up, shut up! | 0:21:12 | 0:21:14 | |
Lastly tonight, I'd like to recite the whole of my last novel, | 0:21:19 | 0:21:24 | |
which is called "Cliff Richard, 1,000 Glorious Years." | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
-Rik? -Yes? -Shut up. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:30 | |
Sorry, Terry. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:31 | |
If only they were all so obedient. I don't think he meant it, anyway. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:40 | |
That would never work on John Cleese. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:42 | |
He's taller than me, for one thing. He's taller than anybody. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:46 | |
Here we find this comedy giant holding forth on British humour. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:50 | |
A subject he knows, well, a fair bit about. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:54 | |
Yes, I reckon that we're taught very early on that it's extremely | 0:21:54 | 0:21:58 | |
important to feel embarrassed most of the time | 0:21:58 | 0:22:02 | |
and then hide that embarrassment. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:05 | |
When I was young, I used to have enormous fun | 0:22:05 | 0:22:07 | |
exploiting that on tube trains | 0:22:07 | 0:22:10 | |
because I used to do terrible things. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:12 | |
I used to... | 0:22:12 | 0:22:13 | |
Do all this for about four minutes, quietly. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
And I'd already pick someone in the corner of the carriage | 0:22:32 | 0:22:35 | |
and just at that moment, I'd go... | 0:22:35 | 0:22:37 | |
And I'd look straight at him, you know, and he'd be looking. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:42 | |
The English are wonderful, aren't they? | 0:22:42 | 0:22:45 | |
They must never ever admit that anything is going on | 0:22:45 | 0:22:47 | |
that's making them uncomfortable. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:49 | |
I remember when we were shooting | 0:22:49 | 0:22:51 | |
And Now For Something Completely Different, | 0:22:51 | 0:22:53 | |
years ago, and there was a bank robber sketch | 0:22:53 | 0:22:55 | |
which Eric Idle had written | 0:22:55 | 0:22:56 | |
and I was fully dressed as a bank robber. | 0:22:56 | 0:22:59 | |
I had the black trousers, I had the black and white stripes | 0:22:59 | 0:23:02 | |
and the little mask and a great big bag marked "SWAG." | 0:23:02 | 0:23:07 | |
And after we finished the sketch, I saw it was 2:55 | 0:23:07 | 0:23:10 | |
and I had to cash a cheque, you see. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:12 | |
I went into the bank... | 0:23:12 | 0:23:15 | |
I chickened out the mask. I took the mask off | 0:23:17 | 0:23:19 | |
but I did have the bag saying "SWAG" | 0:23:19 | 0:23:21 | |
and I remember, I eventually got to the front of the queue | 0:23:21 | 0:23:23 | |
and the cashier looked up and said, "Yes?" | 0:23:23 | 0:23:27 | |
Absolutely nothing. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:31 | |
I said, "I'd like to cash a cheque, please." | 0:23:31 | 0:23:33 | |
"Right." | 0:23:33 | 0:23:34 | |
No recognition that anything was going on. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:37 | |
That's what makes the British unbeatable, I'm sure. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
It's that pretending that nothing has happened. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:44 | |
Absolutely. When you get a drunk in the Tube, you know? | 0:23:44 | 0:23:49 | |
He's lying like this. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:50 | |
I'll try not to do an Irish accent. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:52 | |
He's doing all that and cursing and saying terrible things | 0:23:59 | 0:24:02 | |
and everybody's sitting there reading the frozen pea advertisements. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:06 | |
Memorising them by heart. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:09 | |
I just... not showing by the merest flicker. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:13 | |
That's what you parody or that's what you've traditionally parodied. | 0:24:13 | 0:24:17 | |
Are you a great observer, then, of human nature | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
or an observer of people in the street? | 0:24:20 | 0:24:23 | |
Do you put it in your memory and use it later | 0:24:23 | 0:24:25 | |
or is it spontaneous? | 0:24:25 | 0:24:26 | |
I'd love to say yes. I think I'm better. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:29 | |
I reckon I always really worked in stereotypes | 0:24:29 | 0:24:32 | |
and I think in Python, we always worked in stereotypes | 0:24:32 | 0:24:34 | |
but I think my observation is getting a little bit better now. | 0:24:34 | 0:24:37 | |
Yes, I think so. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:39 | |
When you get a character that you decide to parody, | 0:24:39 | 0:24:42 | |
do you have someone in your mind that you've seen on the Tube? | 0:24:42 | 0:24:45 | |
It's usually the flimsiest idea, | 0:24:45 | 0:24:48 | |
absolutely the flimsiest little notion. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:50 | |
It sometimes starts from a single line. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:52 | |
I remember I rather liked a sketch I wrote about a merchant banker | 0:24:52 | 0:24:57 | |
in Monty Python and it all came | 0:24:57 | 0:24:59 | |
because I had been introduced to one at the party | 0:24:59 | 0:25:01 | |
and he had done that marvellous thing about shaking hands with you | 0:25:01 | 0:25:04 | |
without looking at you, which is the ultimate squish. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:09 | |
When they say, "Would you like to meet Terry Wogan? | 0:25:09 | 0:25:11 | |
He goes... | 0:25:11 | 0:25:12 | |
And, you know, afterwards, I was really cross | 0:25:14 | 0:25:16 | |
because he'd squashed me so much | 0:25:16 | 0:25:18 | |
and I have this line in my mind in which he somehow said, | 0:25:18 | 0:25:22 | |
he said, "I forgot my name at the moment | 0:25:22 | 0:25:24 | |
"but I am a merchant banker." | 0:25:24 | 0:25:26 | |
Somehow, that was his essence much more than his name. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:30 | |
Just kind of based on that one silly little line, a whole sketch came. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:36 | |
It is game playing, isn't it? | 0:25:36 | 0:25:38 | |
That's the public school thing of you must try and get on top | 0:25:38 | 0:25:42 | |
-because otherwise you'll be crushed to death. -I don't know. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:45 | |
I think it depends on... | 0:25:45 | 0:25:47 | |
I think it may depend on the school you may go to. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:50 | |
If you go to Harrow or Eton, maybe you're taught to be on top | 0:25:50 | 0:25:53 | |
but I think where I went, I wasn't taught to be on top, | 0:25:53 | 0:25:57 | |
I was taught to be jolly nice and awfully apologetic | 0:25:57 | 0:26:00 | |
and absolutely not annoy anyone at all | 0:26:00 | 0:26:02 | |
and apologise three times in every sentence. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:05 | |
I remember being in America about two years ago | 0:26:05 | 0:26:08 | |
and I was trying to think what it was about Americans | 0:26:08 | 0:26:10 | |
that I liked and didn't like and comparing with the English. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:13 | |
I just sat down at a dinner table and there were a lot of English | 0:26:13 | 0:26:16 | |
and a lot of American all mixed up and at one point, | 0:26:16 | 0:26:19 | |
an Englishman actually wanted the salt. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:21 | |
Being English, he didn't say, "Would you pass the salt?" | 0:26:21 | 0:26:25 | |
He said, "Erm... Sorry. | 0:26:25 | 0:26:30 | |
That's it, yes. "Sorry" is how you ask for the salt. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:34 | |
It's true, I think we were all trained to be vastly apologetic | 0:26:37 | 0:26:41 | |
and not be pushy at all. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:43 | |
Well, like I've done with you, you see. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:45 | |
If I was sitting up properly, I'm up there. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:48 | |
Well, that would look too damn arrogant, so I sort of go... | 0:26:48 | 0:26:51 | |
You notice how I slid down to join you. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:56 | |
Something interesting could develop. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:00 | |
In one bound from one performer who's caused outrage in his time, | 0:27:02 | 0:27:07 | |
to another who caused it all the time - Joan Rivers. | 0:27:07 | 0:27:12 | |
"Can we talk?" was her favourite catchphrase. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:14 | |
A rhetorical question. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:16 | |
She could talk the hind legs off a donkey. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:18 | |
In this case, the ass was obviously me. | 0:27:18 | 0:27:22 | |
Have you any idea why you've been a star for...well, | 0:27:27 | 0:27:31 | |
a couple of years in the States? | 0:27:31 | 0:27:32 | |
A megastar, very big star. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:35 | |
Why has it taken us so long to cotton on to you, do you think? | 0:27:35 | 0:27:37 | |
Well, I always wanted to come over here and work here | 0:27:37 | 0:27:41 | |
but I don't like airlines so I decided to walk. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:44 | |
No, I was always scared to come over. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:47 | |
I never thought they would think I was funny here | 0:27:47 | 0:27:49 | |
because I wanted them to like me so much. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:51 | |
So, you don't want to do something sometimes and then fail. | 0:27:51 | 0:27:54 | |
Finally, last year, my husband... | 0:27:54 | 0:27:57 | |
We had a record, and they bought the record over first, | 0:27:57 | 0:27:59 | |
and when the record did well, called Can We Talk, came over here, | 0:27:59 | 0:28:02 | |
they said, "Now you can come over." | 0:28:02 | 0:28:04 | |
I let the record go first to break it in. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:06 | |
Your kind of humour, do you have to have people like you? | 0:28:06 | 0:28:09 | |
Because your humour is kind of abrasive and sharp, isn't it? | 0:28:09 | 0:28:13 | |
I think...I don't know if they have to like it. | 0:28:13 | 0:28:15 | |
They have to know you're kidding. Does that make sense? | 0:28:15 | 0:28:18 | |
If you're going to say outrageous things, | 0:28:18 | 0:28:20 | |
they've got to know that it's just being silly, not being mean. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:24 | |
There's a big difference. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:26 | |
Your problem is the problem that British comedians | 0:28:26 | 0:28:28 | |
would have in the States - | 0:28:28 | 0:28:30 | |
understanding the vernacular, understanding your basic humour. | 0:28:30 | 0:28:33 | |
And also having people find you. | 0:28:33 | 0:28:36 | |
Benny Hill is a tremendous hit in the States | 0:28:36 | 0:28:38 | |
and he's a tremendous hit because he went on a little tiny programme | 0:28:38 | 0:28:42 | |
in a little crummy station and everyone kept saying, "Look..." | 0:28:42 | 0:28:45 | |
He didn't come on saying, "Here I am." | 0:28:45 | 0:28:48 | |
Some stars come on - "Here you are" - and they go... | 0:28:48 | 0:28:52 | |
Julio Iglesias. Did he come on...? Well. | 0:28:52 | 0:28:54 | |
He came to the States, "Here I am, wow, wow, wow", | 0:28:54 | 0:28:57 | |
and we were all went... | 0:28:57 | 0:28:58 | |
You know, you don't want to come on like, "Take a look." | 0:29:01 | 0:29:05 | |
If they took a look, they'd panic. | 0:29:05 | 0:29:08 | |
You're also known as the meanest bitch in America. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:11 | |
Victoria Principal called you that. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:13 | |
No, she was talking about you. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:15 | |
No, my husband called me that. No, I just talk about things. | 0:29:18 | 0:29:24 | |
I call the shots as I see them. | 0:29:24 | 0:29:27 | |
I say things that you say in private. Does that make sense? | 0:29:27 | 0:29:32 | |
I say things in public that other people will see something | 0:29:32 | 0:29:35 | |
and say it to a friend on the telephone. | 0:29:35 | 0:29:37 | |
Yeah, but doesn't that make you very unpopular? | 0:29:37 | 0:29:40 | |
No, because it's the truth. | 0:29:40 | 0:29:42 | |
Also I'm not hanging out with these people. | 0:29:42 | 0:29:45 | |
But you must meet them occasionally in a social context in Hollywood. | 0:29:45 | 0:29:48 | |
You must meet, sometimes, the people you've been nasty about. | 0:29:48 | 0:29:52 | |
-Liz Taylor. -What I did say about Elizabeth Taylor wasn't true. | 0:29:52 | 0:29:56 | |
I said she's fat. Is Elizabeth Taylor thin? Is she here? | 0:29:56 | 0:30:00 | |
Look for a woman in Orson Welles' designer jeans. | 0:30:00 | 0:30:03 | |
I mean, the woman is fat. | 0:30:03 | 0:30:05 | |
The woman is fat. | 0:30:05 | 0:30:07 | |
I called her up, as a matter of fact and said, you know, | 0:30:08 | 0:30:12 | |
"If I'm upsetting you, let me know." | 0:30:12 | 0:30:14 | |
She was eating lunch so what she said was... | 0:30:14 | 0:30:16 | |
MUFFLED SPEECH | 0:30:16 | 0:30:18 | |
Have you ever met her? | 0:30:18 | 0:30:19 | |
-Yes - she's fat. -What did she say to you? | 0:30:19 | 0:30:23 | |
She doesn't talk, her mouth is always full. She's like... | 0:30:23 | 0:30:26 | |
SHE MAKES EATING SOUNDS | 0:30:27 | 0:30:29 | |
What about Bo Derek? That poor innocent. | 0:30:31 | 0:30:34 | |
-Did you ever meet Bo Derek? -Never. -Did you ever to Bo Derek? -Never. | 0:30:34 | 0:30:36 | |
Give me a call. | 0:30:36 | 0:30:39 | |
She's the most beautiful woman, but she's not the brightest. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:42 | |
She has trouble with concepts, as most beautiful women do, | 0:30:42 | 0:30:45 | |
because most beautiful women are usually dumb, | 0:30:45 | 0:30:47 | |
I really believe this. | 0:30:47 | 0:30:48 | |
The more beautiful a woman is, because God divides. | 0:30:48 | 0:30:51 | |
If he makes you gorgeous, he makes you stupid, thank goodness. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:55 | |
No, it has to be fair, right? | 0:30:55 | 0:30:58 | |
Bo Derek does not understand the concept of Roman numerals. | 0:30:58 | 0:31:01 | |
She thinks you fought World War 11. She's just confused. | 0:31:01 | 0:31:05 | |
She saw a sign that said "Wet Floor". | 0:31:05 | 0:31:08 | |
She did. The woman is...confused. | 0:31:08 | 0:31:12 | |
But she's gorgeous. I'd rather be dumb and beautiful. | 0:31:12 | 0:31:14 | |
Joan Rivers. A tongue like an adder. A wit like a razor. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:21 | |
Let's have a burst of the brilliant Blondie at her very peak. | 0:31:21 | 0:31:25 | |
Debbie Harry. | 0:31:25 | 0:31:26 | |
# I want to dance with Harry Dean | 0:31:40 | 0:31:44 | |
# Drive through Texas in a black limousine | 0:31:44 | 0:31:47 | |
# I want a piece of heaven before I die | 0:31:47 | 0:31:51 | |
# I want a pair of pink high heels | 0:31:55 | 0:31:58 | |
# That catch the lights up on the Ferris wheel | 0:31:58 | 0:32:02 | |
# But what I really want I just can't buy | 0:32:02 | 0:32:06 | |
# Here comes the 21st century | 0:32:07 | 0:32:11 | |
# It's going to be much better for a girl like me | 0:32:11 | 0:32:15 | |
# Cos I want everything I can | 0:32:15 | 0:32:19 | |
# But most of all, I want that man | 0:32:19 | 0:32:22 | |
# I want that man | 0:32:22 | 0:32:25 | |
# I want to move like what's his name | 0:32:32 | 0:32:35 | |
# I'll keep the money You can have the fame | 0:32:35 | 0:32:39 | |
# Everything that's yours will soon be mine | 0:32:39 | 0:32:43 | |
# Yeah, I want to be the Queen of the USA | 0:32:44 | 0:32:48 | |
# You could send me roses every other day | 0:32:48 | 0:32:52 | |
# But what I really want I just can't buy | 0:32:52 | 0:32:58 | |
# Here comes the 21st century | 0:32:59 | 0:33:02 | |
# It's going to be much better for a girl like me | 0:33:02 | 0:33:07 | |
# Cos I want everything I can | 0:33:07 | 0:33:10 | |
# But most of all, I want that man | 0:33:10 | 0:33:14 | |
# I want that man | 0:33:14 | 0:33:15 | |
# Hey! | 0:33:22 | 0:33:24 | |
# I want to be kissed from head to toe | 0:33:38 | 0:33:42 | |
# By that man in the very back row | 0:33:42 | 0:33:46 | |
# But he won't even look me in the eye | 0:33:46 | 0:33:50 | |
# Ah, I want his love to rain right down on me | 0:33:51 | 0:33:55 | |
# I want him to be king of all my dreams | 0:33:55 | 0:33:59 | |
# But what I really want I just can't hide | 0:33:59 | 0:34:04 | |
# Here comes the 21st century | 0:34:05 | 0:34:09 | |
# It's going to be much better for a girl like me | 0:34:09 | 0:34:13 | |
# Cos I want everything I can | 0:34:13 | 0:34:17 | |
# But most of all, I want that man | 0:34:17 | 0:34:21 | |
# I want that man | 0:34:21 | 0:34:24 | |
# I want that man | 0:34:24 | 0:34:26 | |
# I want that man | 0:34:27 | 0:34:30 | |
# I want that man | 0:34:30 | 0:34:32 | |
# I want that man | 0:34:32 | 0:34:33 | |
# I want that man | 0:34:33 | 0:34:35 | |
# I want that man | 0:34:35 | 0:34:37 | |
# I want that man... # | 0:34:37 | 0:34:39 | |
Well, I can no further in this pantheon of wit | 0:34:51 | 0:34:54 | |
without including that wizard of the one-liner, Bob Monkhouse. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:59 | |
We did many a game show together, from the Golden Shot | 0:34:59 | 0:35:03 | |
to Celebrity Squares, but then, he was king of the game show. | 0:35:03 | 0:35:08 | |
One of the problems, if you'd allow me to speak about it, | 0:35:08 | 0:35:10 | |
of Family Fortunes, which is a great game, | 0:35:10 | 0:35:14 | |
is that you do require five intelligent members of a family. | 0:35:14 | 0:35:17 | |
How many families do you know? | 0:35:17 | 0:35:20 | |
Five intelligent people. | 0:35:22 | 0:35:24 | |
You can find a bright mum, a bright dad, | 0:35:24 | 0:35:27 | |
a smart son-in-law, a clever auntie. | 0:35:27 | 0:35:30 | |
You're going to have loony uncle Ernie | 0:35:30 | 0:35:33 | |
dribbling at the end of the line, the one that says, | 0:35:33 | 0:35:37 | |
"Don't ask him anything." You know... | 0:35:37 | 0:35:40 | |
"What's the capital of Germany?" | 0:35:40 | 0:35:41 | |
"G." "Oh, God!" | 0:35:41 | 0:35:45 | |
We had a family - listen, we had some great families on the show | 0:35:45 | 0:35:48 | |
but sometimes they arrived in refrigerated trucks. | 0:35:48 | 0:35:51 | |
They came up and we had a family - | 0:35:51 | 0:35:54 | |
and I mean no offence whatsoever by this, this is fact, | 0:35:54 | 0:35:57 | |
no ethnic or racial offence - | 0:35:57 | 0:36:00 | |
we had an Irish family on who were... | 0:36:00 | 0:36:02 | |
Look, it's St Patrick's Day. | 0:36:04 | 0:36:05 | |
Yes, it is, so therefore, in the name of St Patrick | 0:36:05 | 0:36:09 | |
and by all that's holy, this is the truth. | 0:36:09 | 0:36:11 | |
We had a family from Northern Ireland | 0:36:12 | 0:36:14 | |
called Thicke. | 0:36:14 | 0:36:16 | |
It was the family name. | 0:36:16 | 0:36:18 | |
T-H-I-C-K-E. We said to them, "Please, it's too cheap a joke. | 0:36:18 | 0:36:22 | |
"You're nice people, you've applied to be on the show. Please." | 0:36:22 | 0:36:26 | |
The son-in-law's name was Wilson, we called them the Wilson family | 0:36:26 | 0:36:29 | |
and they came from Newtownards, I think. | 0:36:29 | 0:36:32 | |
And there was a woman in the group | 0:36:32 | 0:36:33 | |
and she was...I mean, really, unbelievable. | 0:36:33 | 0:36:37 | |
Now and then, you'd get those people | 0:36:37 | 0:36:38 | |
who talked straight out of left-field. | 0:36:38 | 0:36:41 | |
We had a question. | 0:36:41 | 0:36:42 | |
"We asked 100 people, 'Name something pink.' | 0:36:42 | 0:36:45 | |
"What do you think 100 people said? Name something pink." | 0:36:45 | 0:36:48 | |
"I said my cardigan." | 0:36:48 | 0:36:51 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:36:51 | 0:36:54 | |
"Erm...good answer, good answer. Let's see if it's up there." | 0:37:01 | 0:37:05 | |
We finally went out, you're not going to believe this, but it's true, | 0:37:08 | 0:37:11 | |
this is in the first series. | 0:37:11 | 0:37:13 | |
I think people have forgotten the disasters we had. | 0:37:13 | 0:37:16 | |
We had asked 100 people nationwide, this is in the survey, | 0:37:17 | 0:37:21 | |
"Name something which is deserted in the wintertime." | 0:37:21 | 0:37:25 | |
The top answers were a nudist camp, a swimming pool, | 0:37:25 | 0:37:31 | |
the beach, you can make them up. | 0:37:31 | 0:37:33 | |
So we got the five top answers. | 0:37:33 | 0:37:35 | |
A couple of answers had come up and I came to this woman again. | 0:37:35 | 0:37:38 | |
I like this and the audience will like this. | 0:37:39 | 0:37:42 | |
I said, "Name something deserted in wintertime." | 0:37:42 | 0:37:45 | |
She said, "My cousin, Elsie." | 0:37:45 | 0:37:48 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:37:48 | 0:37:50 | |
And the audience laughed like the audience is laughing now | 0:37:50 | 0:37:53 | |
and she said, "It wasn't funny." | 0:37:53 | 0:37:55 | |
"Christmas coming up and five children in the house." | 0:37:58 | 0:38:01 | |
I mean, where do you put yourself? | 0:38:02 | 0:38:05 | |
Our final blast from the past comes from another Bob, Bob Hope, | 0:38:07 | 0:38:11 | |
who Bob Monkhouse once wrote jokes for. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:13 | |
Now, Hope was no ad-libber. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:15 | |
He was always very open about employing gag writers | 0:38:15 | 0:38:18 | |
but he'll always be one of American comedy's all-time greats. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:22 | |
You're a man of enormous stature in America - | 0:38:22 | 0:38:24 | |
and you're pretty tall here - | 0:38:24 | 0:38:27 | |
but how come you never went for political office yourself? | 0:38:27 | 0:38:31 | |
Well, the money wasn't right. | 0:38:31 | 0:38:32 | |
No, I told... | 0:38:34 | 0:38:35 | |
In fact, Wednesday night, I'll be - no, Thursday night - | 0:38:35 | 0:38:37 | |
I'm going to be with the President at the Washington Convention Centre | 0:38:37 | 0:38:40 | |
and I'm going to say that about him, you know, | 0:38:40 | 0:38:43 | |
because a lot of people ask me that and since he's been a hit, | 0:38:43 | 0:38:47 | |
a lot of people in show business are thinking about going. | 0:38:47 | 0:38:50 | |
In fact, they asked me to, but I told them the money isn't right | 0:38:50 | 0:38:54 | |
and besides, my wife wouldn't want to move to a smaller house. | 0:38:54 | 0:38:56 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:38:59 | 0:39:05 | |
Show business, show business is the aristocracy in America, isn't it? | 0:39:05 | 0:39:09 | |
-Right. -Show business are the aristocracy there. | 0:39:09 | 0:39:12 | |
Well, I think, Reagan would like to be royalty. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:15 | |
In fact, I know he's hoping for a promotion but... | 0:39:15 | 0:39:17 | |
They are. Especially as he's done a lot for us | 0:39:19 | 0:39:21 | |
and a lot of people are thinking of running for that office, | 0:39:21 | 0:39:24 | |
like Charlton Heston. | 0:39:24 | 0:39:25 | |
Charlton Heston? | 0:39:25 | 0:39:27 | |
Well, he played Moses, you know. | 0:39:27 | 0:39:28 | |
He led the people out of Egypt, so Reagan would probably make him | 0:39:28 | 0:39:33 | |
Director of Transportation, I think. | 0:39:33 | 0:39:35 | |
Your signature tune is Thanks For The Memory. | 0:39:37 | 0:39:39 | |
What are your fondest memories of show business? | 0:39:39 | 0:39:43 | |
God, I've had so many. | 0:39:43 | 0:39:45 | |
Any one that stands out? Being in all those movies. | 0:39:45 | 0:39:49 | |
Fantastic memories of this wonderful place over here, where I was born. | 0:39:49 | 0:39:53 | |
-Really. -What about the movies? | 0:39:53 | 0:39:55 | |
What's the one you had the most fun making? | 0:39:55 | 0:39:57 | |
I don't know, I think the Road pictures, we had more fun | 0:39:57 | 0:40:00 | |
because Bing and I were just wild and trying to top each other | 0:40:00 | 0:40:06 | |
and it was sensational. | 0:40:06 | 0:40:08 | |
You know, seven weeks of that was just too much. | 0:40:08 | 0:40:12 | |
But I enjoyed making all the movies. I enjoyed it. | 0:40:12 | 0:40:14 | |
How long since you made your last movie? | 0:40:14 | 0:40:16 | |
-About 12 years. -What was that one? | 0:40:16 | 0:40:18 | |
Well, I've been so wrapped up in... | 0:40:18 | 0:40:20 | |
I've been on television for 35 years and with my... | 0:40:20 | 0:40:23 | |
And then you take the show on the road, don't you? | 0:40:23 | 0:40:26 | |
All over the place, you know. | 0:40:26 | 0:40:29 | |
Is there any possibility that you're ever going to retire? | 0:40:29 | 0:40:32 | |
I don't know. How do you spell that? | 0:40:32 | 0:40:35 | |
It's probably got something to do with money again. | 0:40:35 | 0:40:37 | |
I'll tell you something. It's so exciting. | 0:40:37 | 0:40:39 | |
Show business is so exciting. I don't think... | 0:40:39 | 0:40:42 | |
I wouldn't live if I wasn't in show business. | 0:40:42 | 0:40:44 | |
I wouldn't care about it, because it's marvellous to just sit here | 0:40:44 | 0:40:48 | |
and see, you know, these marvellous people. | 0:40:48 | 0:40:51 | |
It's a sensational thing. | 0:40:51 | 0:40:52 | |
Do you remember the very first day that you went into showbiz? | 0:40:52 | 0:40:56 | |
-What was the beginning for Bob Hope? -I sure do, I sure do. | 0:40:56 | 0:41:00 | |
It's kind of sad, the first time I was on the stage. | 0:41:02 | 0:41:08 | |
I bombed quite a bit, I was the bomber of the day. | 0:41:08 | 0:41:11 | |
-You know. -You managed to pick yourself up. | 0:41:12 | 0:41:14 | |
When you look back and think about that, | 0:41:14 | 0:41:16 | |
you get a great kick because I've been so lucky in show business. | 0:41:16 | 0:41:21 | |
Can you possibly stay there for a minute? | 0:41:21 | 0:41:23 | |
Because we do have something to celebrate. | 0:41:23 | 0:41:25 | |
I know you'll claim that you're still a slip of a lad, | 0:41:25 | 0:41:28 | |
but I'm leaving you again now, sir. | 0:41:28 | 0:41:31 | |
But I shall return, as MacArthur said. | 0:41:31 | 0:41:33 | |
Where are we going? | 0:41:33 | 0:41:35 | |
I'll be back, Bob, don't worry. | 0:41:35 | 0:41:37 | |
-I'll return, Bob. -What happened? | 0:41:37 | 0:41:40 | |
I've got a birthday cake. | 0:41:40 | 0:41:42 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:41:43 | 0:41:45 | |
Come down and join me. | 0:41:47 | 0:41:49 | |
Come down and join us for the birthday cake. | 0:41:51 | 0:41:55 | |
-You'll see. -Where do you get small candles like that? | 0:41:57 | 0:42:00 | |
Hang on. | 0:42:00 | 0:42:01 | |
You know something? | 0:42:01 | 0:42:03 | |
Where do you get those little candles? | 0:42:03 | 0:42:06 | |
I'm not much good at this, Bob, lighting things, | 0:42:06 | 0:42:10 | |
so I'm not going to bother trying to light all 35... | 0:42:10 | 0:42:16 | |
-We weren't able to light this up. -I love that, the golf course. | 0:42:16 | 0:42:19 | |
-The golf course. -Wonderful, wonderful. | 0:42:19 | 0:42:21 | |
Reminds you of the several that you own. | 0:42:21 | 0:42:23 | |
Have we got enough puff to let it go? | 0:42:25 | 0:42:27 | |
I'll tell you, if you really put the big candles on, | 0:42:28 | 0:42:32 | |
you'd have enough icing to skate on, I'll tell you that. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:35 | |
That's pretty. | 0:42:35 | 0:42:36 | |
We hope that you'll take it with you and our good wishes, as well, | 0:42:36 | 0:42:40 | |
because golf has always been tremendously part of your life, | 0:42:40 | 0:42:43 | |
-hasn't it? -It sure has, it's been great, you know, | 0:42:43 | 0:42:46 | |
and it's a game you can play forever. | 0:42:46 | 0:42:48 | |
It doesn't make any difference, how old you are, you know, | 0:42:48 | 0:42:51 | |
you just get out there. | 0:42:51 | 0:42:52 | |
We have a fellow at our club, must be 92, | 0:42:52 | 0:42:55 | |
and he plays every day and he can't see very well. | 0:42:55 | 0:42:58 | |
So the pro said, "Take Charlie with you." | 0:42:58 | 0:43:00 | |
He's the same age but he can see real good. | 0:43:00 | 0:43:02 | |
So he put Charlie in the cart, hit the ball down the fairway, turned to Charlie. | 0:43:02 | 0:43:05 | |
He said, "Do you see it?" Charlie said, "Uh-huh." He said, "Where'd it go?" | 0:43:05 | 0:43:09 | |
Charlie said, "I forgot." | 0:43:09 | 0:43:11 | |
LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE | 0:43:11 | 0:43:15 | |
So, once again, the old clock on the wall has beaten us. | 0:43:21 | 0:43:25 | |
I hope you've enjoyed looking back as much as I have. | 0:43:25 | 0:43:27 | |
Join me for more next time. | 0:43:27 | 0:43:30 |