Alice's Adventures in Wonderland: Behind the Scenes with the Royal Ballet


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It's a lifestyle, it's not a job.

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For me, this isn't a job. It's a lifestyle.

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I'm a dancer when I wake up, I'm a dancer on Sundays,

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when I have the day off, I'm consistently a dancer.

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Whether that means nursing something that I'm going to need on a Monday,

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or doing Pilates on a day where you might not be working...

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It's a lifestyle.

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I couldn't imagine actually... having a job.

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I was waiting for my sister when she was taking ballet classes.

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I was an American football player.

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I went into the class, I started taking class

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for probably about a month and a half.

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It was sort of love at first sight.

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I loved ballet in particular

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because it was really clear to understand for me.

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There was no grey area, things were right and wrong.

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Things were really easy to understand.

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I started dancing when I was 14.

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After that, I moved to ballet boarding school,

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started dancing professionally.

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It's difficult for me to break movement down individually.

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So I try and remember choreography as a sentence,

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as if I'm speaking to you, so that I don't go

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"Where... did... you... go..."

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So the transitional steps play in like you speak normally

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in sentence form.

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And if it's a sentence, it's easier to remember for me.

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Sounds bizarre, but, yeah.

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I think even beyond the physical skills,

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you need a dream and a lot of focus.

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I have a dream for myself. I envision myself

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doing great things in dance and developing myself as a dancer.

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That vision, it's very much tunnel vision.

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It's, "I'm going to dance, I'm going to dance well

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"and this is what I want to do."

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Anything I've got to do to make myself do that, then I'm on it.

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So, everyone close up, close up, this way.

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What you need as a dancer is a good technique

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and the most important of all is, I think, it's wanting to dance.

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Because it's a hard career, it's a hard training career.

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It's a lot of hours in a building,

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It's a lot of competition between the artists.

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So you need to have a big, artistic soul

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to overcome all the mountains that, you know, will face you.

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You gain a self-control. You gain, I think, a discipline

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that many people lack in the real world.

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And we have that from the age of eight.

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-She takes it from you...

-And we go one, two, three...

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'As an artist, if you aren't versatile,

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'you may just fall into repetition

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'and you may just get bored. I think it is important'

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to always move. Move on, or move side, or move back,

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whatever you want to do, but just always move.

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And so, for that, I think a dancer should be

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as versatile and flexible as possible. Within their characters,

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within their techniques, within their style, within their movement.

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I think it gives you... It makes you richer as an artist.

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When Chris approached me and said that he was considering

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tap shoes for the role of the hatter, or the mad tapper,

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I was so excited. I started tapping when I was about eight years old.

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It was one of the first things I really focused on.

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My family's not in the arts world.

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I come from a motor sport family

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in the suburbs of Sydney.

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So probably the furthest place that you can get from here.

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My sister was a gymnast and she inspired me.

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She was always so competitive, but in a good way.

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Wanting to achieve more and more and more.

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She's seven years older than me,

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so it was a good example to have around at a young age.

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So I went along, did a jazz lesson where she was doing a bit of dancing

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and that soon became tap and ballet as well.

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I just loved it.

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I've seen dancers who have everything physically...

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naturally...but they're lacking something and that, I think,

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is just sheer determination.

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You have to want it.

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You have to want to be the top of your game,

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you have to want to do a step,

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"OK, I achieved that, but I can do it better."

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Dancers always have niggles and injuries that you're dealing with.

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There are so many rewards that come with being a dancer as well.

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As a child, you know, you fall in love

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with that feeling of dancing around.

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It really is an incredible feeling, you feel free.

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In Billy Elliott, in the film, like, he really does explain it well.

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It's like electricity.

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And to be able to do that as your profession,

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to be paid to do that,

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and to explore yourself and your artistic qualities

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on a daily basis is something that, I think,

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dancers really, really cherish.

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Face this way.

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You come out from behind,

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And you say, "That's my baby!"

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One, two, three, four, five, six, seven...

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'For me, I approach most things'

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with the movement side of my brain

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and, I think, for a story ballet,

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you need characters that can be, er...

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very well communicated through movement.

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'So that's one reason why Alice seemed like a good choice to me.'

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Just disappear like that. That's it, yeah. Good.

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As soon as I was asked to make a full-length ballet

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for the Royal Ballet and I chose Alice,

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I knew that I'd love to work with Joby Talbot again.

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We'd worked on a piece called Fools Paradise for my company Morphoses

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and the world that he created

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for that abstract work

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was so full of fantasy.

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The orchestral colours, the sort of textures

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that came out from the pit, were so unusual

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and had such imagination,

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that it gave me the confidence to say, "OK, I'll do Alice in Wonderland

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"if I can do it with Joby."

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And on top of that, I knew I needed to work

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with a really experienced theatre designer.

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And someone like Bob Crowley,

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who I could share my vision of Alice with,

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but who ultimately would give this Alice

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a real personality of her own.

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For Alice, it was necessary to be quite prepared structurally.

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So Joby goes away and writes a passage of music

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and within that passage of music, there are certain plot points

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that have to occur. Let's take, for example, when she first falls down

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the rabbit hole.

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She has to come to,

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regain consciousness from banging her head on the floor.

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She has to have her first encounter with the Queen of Hearts

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and the Knave of Hearts and the White Rabbit.

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And then we just go about making that all come together with movement.

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There's very little prepared,

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as far as the movement is concerned, before I get in the room.

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I'd much rather work with the dancer and discover that together.

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A four, a five, a six, a seven, eight.

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One, two, three, four, five, six, seven...

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'I became a dancer because I saw a production'

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of Ashton's La Fille Mal Gardee, a ballet that's been in the repertoire of the Royal Ballet

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for many years. And then I went to a local ballet school

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and I was good at it.

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When you're good at something and encouraged you start to learn to love it.

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But I think I loved it pretty much from the beginning

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and it's everything that I've known from the age of eight.

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I went into choreography at school, was encouraged.

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At the Royal Ballet School, it was part of the curriculum and, again,

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I must have shown some talent early on because I was really, really encouraged.

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That's all I needed, really.

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'A sort of push forward on the path of being a choreographer.

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'I stopped dancing when I was 28,

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'which is more than 10 years before I needed to.

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'But I did it because I was really passionate about choreography

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'and I think I had danced enough. I felt like I'd danced enough.'

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Read. And...

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'When you look at a traditional classical ballet vocabulary,

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there are only a certain number of steps and it's up to you'

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to combine those steps creatively and find new ways of...

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New angles of showing those, you know, that catalogue of steps.

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And then, on top of that, finding the right ones

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to describe a personality or a situation.

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A narrative full-length story ballet is a huge undertaking

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and you have so many elements competing for your attention.

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You have music, lighting,

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you have costume and then you have to sit back again and say,

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"OK, this isn't working and this is pulling my eye

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"to the wrong part of the stage. I'm telling two stories,

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"but one needs to have more volume on it than the other,

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"so one has to recede because we need to know exactly where to look."

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So the only time you really know

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that you've got it right or not,

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really is when the curtain goes up in front of an audience

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and they react.

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And with a full-length story ballet like Alice in Wonderland,

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the most terrifying thing is it happens on opening night.

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My job, as composer,

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is to try and find something new

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and present it in a new and extraordinary way.

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Obviously, I have the extraordinary orchestra

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of the Royal Opera House at my disposal and it's very exciting.

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My idea is the moment the curtain goes up, I want the music

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to be completely, extraordinarily magical.

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So it's not scored for simply a normal orchestral set-up.

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There's voices in there as well

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and some other slightly odd orchestration

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and every percussion instrument ever invented.

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Three, A...

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You know, two hours is a long amount of music to construct

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and there needs to be through-lines and an awful lot of variety

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within that, but all within this strange, magical world

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that Lewis Carroll set-up.

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I always thought my music might go well with dance.

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When I was at college, I did some things

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with choreographers and enjoyed it.

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And then I met Chris

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and he seemed to very much like working with my music.

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I guess what choreographers like about it

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is that it's got a kind of strong sense of rhythm.

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Rhythm is very much to the fore, but at the same time,

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it's not completely cold. I mean, it's also quite emotive.

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Having worked in both classical music

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and dance, and also film music,

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I have experienced all the kind of different avenues

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I need to be exploring in this. Film music sits behind the action.

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Of course, in ballet, in dance music, it's in front of it

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and they are dancing TO the music.

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I mean, it's there in front and everything else is unfolding.

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It's kind of triggered by it.

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I found it quite hard to get my head round to begin with.

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I kept thinking, "OK, so I'm going to do falling down a rabbit hole.

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"Well, I've been told that lasts between one and two minutes, maybe.

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"So, I'll write some..." and I'd write some music

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and then, "Let me get the picture up, I'll see how it sounds

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"against the images." And then "Oh, hang on.

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"There aren't any images."

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No-one's choreographed anything or done any design or anything at all.

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So when I was writing the music I was trying to find something

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that had... Kind of has

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one foot in the 19th century and one foot in the 21st century

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and is very magical and odd

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and seems to have some inner logic,

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so that you feel that you're looking into

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Wonderland, where things work differently but they do work.

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My job is to try and write very characterful music

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for the different characters, so we have a musical theme

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for Alice herself.

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She's a bit more grown-up in our version than in the book.

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I think she's probably more like 13 or 14,

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which means that she can have all this beautiful, romantic

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yearning orchestral music.

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And the White Rabbit has a sort of scurrying,

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celesta, nervous thing. And also, he's always checking his watch,

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which is a great device musically, because you can have clock-ticking

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whenever he comes along.

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She'll be in a scene, talking to whoever,

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and he'll appear, so you can hear this tick-tick and his little melody.

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I'm trying to think of what to write for the Caterpillar.

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We've gone for this slightly north African, kind of percussive thing.

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Basically, everything's taken me three times longer

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than I thought it would

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and I'm completely happy with it all.

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Yeah, it's taken me longer than I thought it would.

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And as regards to what I'm... I mean,

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I'm learning, I'm learning so much.

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About writing something this big,

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about ballet in general, about story-telling in ballet.

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It's really pretty.

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'I knew Christopher Wheeldon from school. I'd worked with him.'

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As I'd gone through the company,

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he'd chosen me to be in the corps de ballet of some of his works

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and then I got to do a soloists part in some of those works

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and then a couple of more serious roles, but I'd never created

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anything with him more than a corps de ballet role.

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So I didn't really know how it was going to be, so it really was

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a journey and we started at the beginning.

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You know, I really got to know him and the more I trusted him,

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the more he trusted me,

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The more we could develop ideas together.

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And I really felt like we shared the whole creative process.

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Yeah, working on the bush...

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I was born in Devon

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and I was sent to ballet because there was a wonderful teacher

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that my mum had heard of and she taught in the town hall.

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I was nearly four

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and she was this amazing lady that apparently

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gave your children discipline and great posture.

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My mum thought, "Great, that's just what happy-go-lucky Lauren needs."

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Because I was a bit of a terror.

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I definitely wasn't a girly-girl,

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but I wasn't a complete tomboy either.

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The music was always heaven to dance to.

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I just could never, ever imagine doing anything else.

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It just felt like the most natural thing in the world for me to do.

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With ballet, there's a natural progression.

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You start with a pre-primary exam and then you do a primary exam

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and then you start with grade one up to grade five or six

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and then you go into some different grade.

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It's just the natural thing. You do one, you do well, so you're inspired to do the next,

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and the next, and you watch the older girls,

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you see them doing really hard steps and you want to do that.

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You go and watch ballet and you get excited and you want to be as good.

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There's so many different ways you can dance, your body can express.

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The way you move your leg has an emotion to it as well.

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So already, as a role, you think, "How dynamic is this person?"

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Or, "How lyrical is this person, how soft is this person?"

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And so you have dynamic through your dancing. Also, you think about,

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"How would that person hold their head?"

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You know... Is she...

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You know, a timid, shy person?

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Is she alert? Does she want...? And it's those things.

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Ballet is incredibly intense, physically.

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Mentally, it's so stimulating,

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that to come down from a show or something, it takes forever.

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And emotionally, you put everything into it

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so that's also another side to it.

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But the day-to-day wear and tear of a dancer's life,

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I think, is what's most gruelling yet rewarding.

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You know, you get...very, very little free time.

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Your life needs to revolve around being the best dancer you can be.

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That involves making sure you've got enough sleep,

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get to bed early, eat well and work hard.

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There aren't many days when a dancer isn't feeling niggles.

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It's really hard because you don't want to stop.

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But you know, ultimately, if you don't stop,

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then you're probably putting too much strain on your body.

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What's really good is, after your first couple of serious injuries,

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you start to learn, "Go off, look after yourself, come back."

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It's just time. There are, you know, opportunities to come.

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But it's hard to learn that.

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Creating a full-length ballet,

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at first, is really daunting. How, from a blank canvas,

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do you get to a huge production?

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But actually, it does grow quite naturally

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in the way that, as soon as you put a story,

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or emotion, and you attach that to steps

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and your muscle memory then retains those,

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it becomes just a matter of just telling that story.

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You know, bringing those steps to life with characters and with props

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and with movement and all the different aspects

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of the piece. So it feels like a really natural process.

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I wish I could do every ballet like this.

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Being on stage is incredible and it's so exciting.

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You could do what you want on there.

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You know, you've been given the stage,

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you've been given the steps, but ultimately it's up to you.

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When you're out there, it's freedom.

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So, that's her jacket, which has been briefed in.

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-We're doing the trousers in the same fabric?

-We can if you want.

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We're going to use the stripe...

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'I was taken to the theatre as a child.'

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I just loved going to the theatre

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and then... But I wasn't really conscious of design as such,

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until I saw a production of Oliver! that Sean Kenny designed,

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which was the first production.

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And that's when he stripped all the theatre away and painted the back wall

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of the theatre and exposed the lights.

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Then I thought, "I've got to look into this

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"a bit more," so my appetite was whetted by that.

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Then I thought I'd be an actor for a while.

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Then I was asked to take over in an amateur production.

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The designer fell off a ladder and broke his leg

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and someone said, "You can draw and paint, would you do the set?" and I went, "OK."

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And then that's how it all began.

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And here I am today!

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It's ridiculous how these things start.

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How you get started in anything, you know.

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The one with the black cross...

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'Unless you're curious

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'and nosey about things, you'll never become a stage designer.

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'Because it's all about being a magpie, you know.

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'You're constantly delving into different periods, different worlds, people's lives.

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'Being able to draw and paint helps.

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'It's not absolutely vital, I don't think.'

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People can do that on computers these days, there are programmes.

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But I'm still a pencil and paper man, you know. Still on the back of an envelope,

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or the back of a beer mat kind of designer,

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and I don't use the computer to design on.

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I will use the computer

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to manipulate things and stuff like that, but I don't design on it.

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I think it's a three dimensional art to stage design

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and I don't want it all happening on a screen

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we go from drawings to models pretty quickly.

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Model-making skills are useful.

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The set comes first.

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Once I have some sense of what the space will look like,

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I will then know what somebody looks like inside it.

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So I never do the costumes first. I wouldn't know where to begin.

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I thought, "I don't know what to do with Alice In Wonderland."

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I had no idea what the nature of this beast was,

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because, you know, there's 100s of ways you could go about

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interpreting this story.

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I didn't have a way into it until I heard

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more and more of Joby's score.

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It's the music that inspires you as much as the subject matter.

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I tried to get around the whole John Tenniel illustration side.

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That's what's in my head. I grew up with those illustrations.

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They're in everybody's childhood DNA.

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But I then looked at a lot of films and I just wanted, you know,

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to sort of re-inform myself about what had already been done with it.

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I didn't see any ballets of it and I re-read the book.

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And stretch. It would be nice if there was a little bit of...

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I thought we had to have one reference. It would be perverse not to.

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I knew it would be the Cheshire Cat,

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because you'd be cheating the audience

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out of the pleasure of that, I think.

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And the way around that was not to do it as an illustration,

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but to make the illustration three dimensional.

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I prototyped virtually every single costume.

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Certainly ones that might be problematic in terms of choreography.

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So when Chris was rehearsing,

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I would bring him in something so he could see it on somebody.

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And he's only had to change a few steps.

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Beautiful. OK, good.

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OK, so we've got the sliders open

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and the trap up, just confirming.

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Good, yeah.

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Alice is a very busy show.

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There are so many cues.

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Lighting cues, projection cues, scenery cues, fly cues, sound cues.

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There are 14 scenes in Act One

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and it is fast-moving

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and there isn't much room

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for anything to go wrong.

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'So it is a big challenge.'

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Can we come and re-set the bag? Thank you.

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I have a team of three in the stage management.

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Myself, a deputy and an assistant.

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I'm responsible for running what's happening on-stage

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and my deputy is calling the show on the book in the prompt corner.

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Curtains up on line three...

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My assistant runs one side of the stage, I run the other

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and also oversee all the scene changes,

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make sure we're ready to go into the next scene

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in performances.

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Another element is a risk assessment.

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One has to write a risk assessment and, while one tries to do that

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and foresee any possible risks

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prior to coming to the stage,

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it's only really when you hit the stage that you suddenly see

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the real hazards

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that are involved. So that's something that is quite big

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when we come to the stage.

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Lauren!

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I was brought up in a theatrical family, always wanted to act.

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I had an accident when I was 15, lost my confidence

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and decided from then on that I was going to go behind the scenes

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rather than in front of the scenes.

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I was at the Central School of Speech and Drama

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where I did the stage management course

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and then was lucky to get a job with a company

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called The Actors Company that was headed by, among others, Ian McKellen.

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And I was with them for about 18 months. That was a fantastic start.

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With The Actors Company, I was an assistant stage manager.

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Responsible for props, setting props,

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finding rehearsal props. From The Actors Company,

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I went on to deputy stage manage with other theatre companies.

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Musicals in the West End.

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For working with a ballet company,

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of course, the first thing is one has to be able to read music

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because all productions are cued

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using a musical score.

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So you have to be able to read music.

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I think getting on with people,

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collaborating with different artists, choreographers, designers,

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working with different temperaments in dancers,

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which are all challenges.

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But actually, they're quite nice challenges to overcome.

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Does he need anything or is it so he knows...

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-It's just if you see him.

-Cool.

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I think that's very much a stage manager's job

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to keep the atmosphere good in rehearsals, on stage,

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in the wings, probably between the dressing rooms, as well, in a way.

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If the team is good at its job,

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then it creates a much easier atmosphere to work in.

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Every day is a challenge,

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especially working with a ballet company. You've got a different ballet

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in rehearsal, in performance,

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a different cast to work with many times,

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so no day is ever the same.

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It's not like working on a West End show,

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where probably eight shows are the same a week.

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I'm not sure it's a good lifestyle, really.

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If you want a life outside of the theatre.

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Because of the hours. It does demand quite a lot of one's time

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and you never really switch off.

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But I absolutely love it, so I wouldn't change it for anything.

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