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Fit And Proper People is a play about | 0:00:12 | 0:00:15 | |
who owns our football clubs | 0:00:15 | 0:00:17 | |
and what is the corruption at the heart of our football clubs. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:21 | |
Football and theatre for me | 0:00:21 | 0:00:23 | |
have always been my biggest passions. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:27 | |
They're both live performances, they both engage enormous audiences | 0:00:27 | 0:00:30 | |
and they both allow people to escape | 0:00:30 | 0:00:33 | |
and feel in an enormous, shared environment. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:36 | |
CROWD ROARS | 0:00:36 | 0:00:38 | |
There's a key moment for me within the whole production, | 0:00:52 | 0:00:55 | |
which is the first time we see Casey and Anthony really talk to each other, | 0:00:55 | 0:00:59 | |
towards the end of the first act of the play, | 0:00:59 | 0:01:02 | |
and the play up to this point has deprived you of a simple scene | 0:01:02 | 0:01:06 | |
where two people talk to each other. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:08 | |
It's been football and smoke and mirrors. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:10 | |
Let's go out for dinner one night. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:12 | |
I genuinely want to spend some quality time with you. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
What? To ensure that I will keep my mouth shut? | 0:01:17 | 0:01:20 | |
-Casey, please. -Some average high dining | 0:01:20 | 0:01:22 | |
and a cab home being your idea of fair exchange? | 0:01:22 | 0:01:26 | |
Somewhere in town where we can just chat outside of this circus. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:30 | |
You and me are ancient history, Tony. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:37 | |
It's all in the past. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:38 | |
And I'm not going to let you penetrate my future or my business. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:44 | |
Great, so, shall we take it from the top of the scene then? | 0:01:46 | 0:01:49 | |
You two on the terrace in public, | 0:01:49 | 0:01:51 | |
important people sat in front and all around. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:53 | |
But we're stood next to each other? | 0:01:53 | 0:01:55 | |
Yes, by coincidence or maybe Anthony's plan. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:57 | |
That's what I was going to ask, | 0:01:57 | 0:01:59 | |
-do you think he's premeditated this meeting? -Yeah, quite possibly. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:03 | |
I was conscious that this conversation | 0:02:03 | 0:02:05 | |
was an incredibly honest, exposed conversation between two people | 0:02:05 | 0:02:08 | |
where subtext had gone and they'd started really talking | 0:02:08 | 0:02:12 | |
brass tacks to each other. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:14 | |
By placing that in a public situation | 0:02:14 | 0:02:17 | |
and depriving them of the ability to shout, | 0:02:17 | 0:02:20 | |
they were forced to use other tactics. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:23 | |
Let's go out for dinner one night. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:25 | |
I genuinely want to spend some quality time with you. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:32 | |
What? To ensure that I will keep my mouth shut? | 0:02:32 | 0:02:35 | |
Casey, please... | 0:02:35 | 0:02:36 | |
Some average high dining and a cab home | 0:02:36 | 0:02:38 | |
being your idea of fair exchange? | 0:02:38 | 0:02:42 | |
Somewhere in town where we can just talk outside of this circus. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:46 | |
We, from the table discussions, knew that the scene was about control, | 0:02:46 | 0:02:50 | |
it was about a power struggle, but it was also a love scene | 0:02:50 | 0:02:53 | |
at its very heart, and it was a scene where someone was seeking | 0:02:53 | 0:02:57 | |
for a closure that they hadn't had for maybe 20 years. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:00 | |
There is now an element at the beginning of the scene | 0:03:00 | 0:03:03 | |
of sussing out the enemy, isn't there? | 0:03:03 | 0:03:05 | |
-Absolutely. -Them working out what the battle is. Are we going there? | 0:03:05 | 0:03:08 | |
Yeah. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:11 | |
So we played various games involving distance and space | 0:03:11 | 0:03:14 | |
and things that are about the bodies talking to each other, | 0:03:14 | 0:03:17 | |
not the minds talking to each other. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:19 | |
If you stand on opposite sides of the space, | 0:03:19 | 0:03:22 | |
step forward when you think you are making | 0:03:22 | 0:03:25 | |
-a step up in status in the scene. -OK. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:28 | |
Step back if you think you've lost something. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:30 | |
If you think there's a big shift in the scene, | 0:03:30 | 0:03:33 | |
-swap places. -OK. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:34 | |
What do you dream about? | 0:03:35 | 0:03:39 | |
Playing Man United. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:47 | |
Knocking that smile off Sir Alex's smug face. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:55 | |
Tactics going round in your head. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:57 | |
You all right, Case? | 0:04:00 | 0:04:02 | |
I heard you nearly married a once-good footballer. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:08 | |
Action and physical movement on stage | 0:04:08 | 0:04:10 | |
have to come from truthful thought | 0:04:10 | 0:04:12 | |
and what was playable between the two of them | 0:04:12 | 0:04:14 | |
is a real soreness and a real ache | 0:04:14 | 0:04:17 | |
about what happened between each other and a real lack of closure. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:22 | |
There is unfinished business there, and that's what makes it dramatic - | 0:04:22 | 0:04:26 | |
they have something to resolve. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:27 | |
Well, secrets is what makes the world go round. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:30 | |
How dare you? | 0:04:33 | 0:04:34 | |
Sorry, all right, yeah, sorry. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:38 | |
There's a key beat in the scene where there's a real power exchange | 0:04:38 | 0:04:42 | |
between Casey and Anthony | 0:04:42 | 0:04:45 | |
and that's the moment of the kiss, or the failed kiss | 0:04:45 | 0:04:48 | |
from Anthony. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:50 | |
With some thought, in retrospect, | 0:04:50 | 0:04:52 | |
she might have wanted to kiss him but not... | 0:04:52 | 0:04:54 | |
As soon as it's there, she knows... | 0:04:54 | 0:04:56 | |
Her knee-jerk reaction to him is one of repulsion. | 0:04:56 | 0:04:59 | |
So, can we try a version of it just to heighten that moment? | 0:04:59 | 0:05:01 | |
This might be completely the wrong thing, | 0:05:01 | 0:05:04 | |
but just to heighten it where somehow | 0:05:04 | 0:05:06 | |
he manages to hold that kiss | 0:05:06 | 0:05:09 | |
for a beat longer than is comfortable. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:11 | |
You did it! You got there! | 0:05:13 | 0:05:16 | |
-Winning, yeah? Winning. -Spaceless and timeless. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:19 | |
The God bit in our brains. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:20 | |
That place where nothing else matters, | 0:05:20 | 0:05:22 | |
nothing can hurt you any more. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:24 | |
I let the scene run a couple of times | 0:05:26 | 0:05:28 | |
and saw what happened with that kiss moment. We then talked about it | 0:05:28 | 0:05:31 | |
a little bit more and what happened | 0:05:31 | 0:05:33 | |
if she were to put the kiss on him | 0:05:33 | 0:05:35 | |
and how that might affect the dynamic of the scene, | 0:05:35 | 0:05:38 | |
which I think was very powerful in rehearsal | 0:05:38 | 0:05:41 | |
but it was, in hindsight, | 0:05:41 | 0:05:43 | |
it made her the manipulator in the scene. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:45 | |
Winning, yeah? Winning. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:47 | |
Spaceless and timeless. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:48 | |
-The God bit in our brains. -That place where nothing else matters, | 0:05:48 | 0:05:51 | |
nothing can hurt YOU any more. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:54 | |
Look... | 0:05:54 | 0:05:55 | |
My game plan's just a little bit more evolved | 0:06:01 | 0:06:04 | |
than yours these days, see? | 0:06:04 | 0:06:06 | |
In the end, I trusted both of their instincts entirely, | 0:06:06 | 0:06:09 | |
which was that moment of him coming in to kiss her | 0:06:09 | 0:06:12 | |
and her just limboing back and going, "Got ya." | 0:06:12 | 0:06:15 | |
You did it! | 0:06:15 | 0:06:17 | |
You got there! | 0:06:17 | 0:06:19 | |
Winning. Yeah? Winning. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:21 | |
-Spaceless and timeless. -The God bit in our brains. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:23 | |
That place where nothing else matters, | 0:06:23 | 0:06:25 | |
nothing can hurt you any more. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:27 | |
-Look... -Ooh. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:28 | |
My game plan's just a little bit more evolved than yours these days. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:35 | |
This is a play of gladiators and heroes and myth-makers. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:39 | |
They needed to go to extremes emotionally, | 0:06:39 | 0:06:42 | |
points of danger emotionally, but physically really engage with it, | 0:06:42 | 0:06:46 | |
really drop the body into a moment and get their point across. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:49 | |
I never wanted a war with you. I never, EVER wanted a war with you. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:52 | |
Oh, are you threatening me? | 0:06:52 | 0:06:53 | |
-Agents have wrecked the game but you're going too far. -Woman! | 0:06:53 | 0:06:57 | |
Dare to try things that you might not be able to pull off, | 0:06:57 | 0:07:00 | |
emotionally, physically, however. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:02 | |
For me, that's a very, very important thing to do | 0:07:02 | 0:07:04 | |
because theatre is at its finest | 0:07:04 | 0:07:06 | |
at the emotional extremes at the points of danger. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:09 | |
But, hey... | 0:07:09 | 0:07:11 | |
no time for feelings. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:13 | |
On with this job. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:15 | |
CROWD ROARS | 0:07:15 | 0:07:17 | |
Stay there, don't move, I'll come back for you. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:46 | |
I love you, man. More than I love my own family. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:54 | |
Them man ready to ship me back when I didn't do anything. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:07 | |
I swear, if you weren't there for me... | 0:08:07 | 0:08:09 | |
You can't stop living, brother. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:11 | |
There's no need to live in fear. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:13 | |
Three Blind Mice is a story of three characters, essentially, | 0:08:13 | 0:08:19 | |
who have been thrown together in three flats, | 0:08:19 | 0:08:22 | |
one on top of the other, | 0:08:22 | 0:08:24 | |
they're coming out of very vulnerable situations, | 0:08:24 | 0:08:27 | |
either having been long-term hostel residents | 0:08:27 | 0:08:30 | |
or having been in prison and served a lengthy term inside, | 0:08:30 | 0:08:34 | |
or an entrenched alcoholic. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:36 | |
The vast bulk of the performers we work with | 0:08:38 | 0:08:40 | |
know what it is to be homeless. They have personal experience of it. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:43 | |
That lends it a power | 0:08:43 | 0:08:46 | |
because there's a degree of trust immediately established | 0:08:46 | 0:08:49 | |
with an audience. It's not some smart aleck | 0:08:49 | 0:08:51 | |
coming in and giving us good advice, | 0:08:51 | 0:08:52 | |
but it's people like us, | 0:08:52 | 0:08:54 | |
as it were, talking to us, talking with us. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:58 | |
And Terry comes on as Mouse... | 0:08:58 | 0:09:00 | |
Yeah. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:02 | |
So it's not about training actors or creating actors. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:06 | |
It's more about strengthening people in whatever change or development | 0:09:06 | 0:09:10 | |
they wish to make in their life. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:11 | |
OK, er, fear. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:13 | |
This ain't the sharp-looking Daps I know. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:16 | |
Where you staying? | 0:09:18 | 0:09:20 | |
So the principle is very simple and it's just, | 0:09:20 | 0:09:23 | |
what are the overarching emotions | 0:09:23 | 0:09:26 | |
that are going on in this scene? | 0:09:26 | 0:09:28 | |
What is the word to describe this thing? | 0:09:28 | 0:09:31 | |
And somebody says fear is present. OK, let's play it with fear. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:34 | |
Everything with fear. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:36 | |
I got a new yard. A penthouse. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
Lots of space! | 0:09:40 | 0:09:42 | |
OK, cool. Brian, well done, you really go for it. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:45 | |
-Go with bravery. -You got, I got a new yard. A penthouse! | 0:09:45 | 0:09:49 | |
Loads of space. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:50 | |
I'm good, you know. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:53 | |
Bruv, what's a friend, right... | 0:09:54 | 0:09:57 | |
..if I can't be honest, yeah? | 0:09:58 | 0:10:01 | |
You look like a crackhead! | 0:10:01 | 0:10:03 | |
Crackhead? Never that. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:06 | |
Yeah, but look at you, man. I feel responsible. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
Here. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:12 | |
OK, good, interesting. Any moments of interest there? | 0:10:12 | 0:10:16 | |
"Crackhead", when he sort of slapped him round the head. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:19 | |
I certainly... | 0:10:19 | 0:10:20 | |
It was lovely to see your physicality | 0:10:20 | 0:10:23 | |
starting to develop quite naturally there, this stuff, | 0:10:23 | 0:10:27 | |
but it was also quite nice, actually, to see his stuff back. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:34 | |
'It's the director, Tony, who will decide | 0:10:34 | 0:10:36 | |
'how we wish to use any of this stuff, of course,' | 0:10:36 | 0:10:39 | |
having perhaps discovered some things in this process. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:42 | |
This process is simply about discovery. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:45 | |
When we find Dapo in the DIY store, | 0:10:45 | 0:10:49 | |
he's been given a set of keys to his new flat, | 0:10:49 | 0:10:52 | |
and he wants to do it up. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
Dapo! Is that you? | 0:10:56 | 0:10:58 | |
Y'know, he then is faced with a problem | 0:10:58 | 0:11:00 | |
of not having enough money. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:03 | |
Henry walks in and further complicates that, | 0:11:03 | 0:11:06 | |
catches Dapo off-guard, if you like. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:08 | |
This ain't the sharp-looking Dapo I used to know. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:11 | |
Where you staying? | 0:11:11 | 0:11:12 | |
-My sister's lending me her sofa, innit. -Bruv, come stay at mine. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:16 | |
Henry has a very confident sense of himself, | 0:11:16 | 0:11:19 | |
inner confidence which is expressed physically, | 0:11:19 | 0:11:23 | |
a very confident, self-assured man who is used to getting his own way. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:29 | |
-What's your name? -Pamela. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:31 | |
Pamela, darling, you got some paper? | 0:11:31 | 0:11:33 | |
You know him? | 0:11:35 | 0:11:37 | |
Dapo is stuck, y'know. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
He is pretty much stuck in that moment | 0:11:40 | 0:11:42 | |
until he can find a way out or Henry allows him to go. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:45 | |
There's not a lot he can do physically. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
He's just got to process internally and I think we see a lot of that | 0:11:48 | 0:11:52 | |
being expressed through his face. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:54 | |
-..hook you up with a couple of girls. -For real? | 0:11:54 | 0:11:57 | |
Here, Dap. Still grateful for what you did for mans, y'know? | 0:11:57 | 0:12:00 | |
-Was nothing. -Nah, man. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:02 | |
Certain mans was snitching on mans. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:05 | |
You kept your mouth quiet. I respect that. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:08 | |
-It's cool. -Catch you later. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:09 | |
Laters. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:10 | |
Actors who are playing off each other is, of course, | 0:12:12 | 0:12:14 | |
what we want, actors who will, | 0:12:14 | 0:12:17 | |
when a ball is thrown, will catch it, | 0:12:17 | 0:12:19 | |
and then throw it back. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:22 | |
Need a driver. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:23 | |
It's just for one day. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:28 | |
It's an hour-drive there, | 0:12:28 | 0:12:31 | |
and an hour-drive back. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:33 | |
That's it. And you get 500 for it. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:38 | |
£500? | 0:12:39 | 0:12:40 | |
Yeah, cash! | 0:12:40 | 0:12:43 | |
Just to drive one car! | 0:12:43 | 0:12:45 | |
You want to pay me 500 to drive you somewhere? | 0:12:45 | 0:12:48 | |
500. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:53 | |
What's the catch? | 0:12:55 | 0:12:56 | |
There's no catch. | 0:12:58 | 0:12:59 | |
I just want someone I can trust. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:05 | |
I trust you. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:06 | |
Five zero zero. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:09 | |
< (Yes.) | 0:13:09 | 0:13:10 | |
Cash in hand. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:14 | |
If you say yes, | 0:13:14 | 0:13:15 | |
you get half up-front now! | 0:13:15 | 0:13:17 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:13:17 | 0:13:19 | |
-So, what's it going to be? -When? | 0:13:22 | 0:13:24 | |
Tonight, brethren! | 0:13:24 | 0:13:26 | |
-What? -Yeah! | 0:13:26 | 0:13:28 | |
You got something else you need doing? | 0:13:28 | 0:13:30 | |
What if I'd said no? | 0:13:31 | 0:13:33 | |
There's plenty of man out there who'd say yes. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:37 | |
All I have to do is drive? | 0:13:40 | 0:13:42 | |
If you want me to write you out a contract | 0:13:42 | 0:13:45 | |
for you, then yes! | 0:13:45 | 0:13:46 | |
Drive there and drive back. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:49 | |
I ain't got to do nothing but drive? | 0:13:53 | 0:13:55 | |
(Cool.) | 0:13:57 | 0:13:59 | |
Emotions being invisible things, | 0:14:01 | 0:14:03 | |
of course, they get expressed physically. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:06 | |
We can play with that | 0:14:06 | 0:14:08 | |
in terms of scale, if you like, to which we heighten that, | 0:14:08 | 0:14:12 | |
y'know, pull it right in, and equally, | 0:14:12 | 0:14:15 | |
we can choose to heighten it and express it | 0:14:15 | 0:14:18 | |
in a much larger scale. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:20 | |
-When? -Tonight. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:22 | |
-What? -What, you got something else you need doing? | 0:14:22 | 0:14:24 | |
-What if I said no? -There's plenty of man out there who'd say yes. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
All I got to do is drive? | 0:14:27 | 0:14:29 | |
Do you want me to write you a contract? | 0:14:29 | 0:14:32 | |
Yes, you drive there and you drive back. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:34 | |
SIREN WAILS | 0:14:34 | 0:14:36 | |
-Frustration. -Why can't it be winter all year round? | 0:14:54 | 0:14:57 | |
-Thwarted ambitions. -Do we really need summer? | 0:14:57 | 0:15:00 | |
I want to escape her, one of us is plotting to kill one of us. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:09 | |
-I feel so forsaken. -How will it end? | 0:15:09 | 0:15:11 | |
I always seem to lose. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:12 | |
We scheme, we plot. Who will win? | 0:15:12 | 0:15:14 | |
-You are Jennifer, you are me. -You are June, you are me. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:18 | |
-You are Jennifer, you are me. -You are June, you are me. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:21 | |
-You are Jennifer, you are me. -You are June, you are me. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:24 | |
-You are Jennifer, you are me. -You are June, you are me. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:28 | |
-You are Jennifer... -You are June... | 0:15:28 | 0:15:33 | |
BOTH: You...are...me. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:35 | |
We really are about both the physicality | 0:15:37 | 0:15:41 | |
and the language, the meaning. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:43 | |
So the exercises in the rehearsal room | 0:15:43 | 0:15:46 | |
is primarily about playing objectives. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:49 | |
The only thing you have | 0:15:49 | 0:15:51 | |
in order to change the other person, | 0:15:51 | 0:15:54 | |
you can move your chair and place yourself upon it. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:57 | |
And answer that immediately. | 0:15:57 | 0:15:59 | |
The twins were bullied. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:10 | |
They were the only black family in an all-white community, | 0:16:10 | 0:16:13 | |
and then, of course, they were identical twins, | 0:16:13 | 0:16:15 | |
which makes them doubly conspicuous. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:18 | |
I love that exercise because | 0:16:21 | 0:16:23 | |
simply by playing conflicting objectives, | 0:16:23 | 0:16:27 | |
if the actor is really trying to change the other person, | 0:16:27 | 0:16:31 | |
it will come alive. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:32 | |
Ultimately, to be safe and secure | 0:16:35 | 0:16:38 | |
and protect themselves is their strongest objective. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:41 | |
The terrible thing about the story is, | 0:16:43 | 0:16:45 | |
it's also a prison, | 0:16:45 | 0:16:47 | |
and in the end that becomes a place that is really unbearable. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:53 | |
Shall we see what happens if we put obstacles into the mix? | 0:16:53 | 0:16:56 | |
-Because, Demi, you said there was an anger, didn't you? -Yeah, yeah. | 0:16:56 | 0:17:00 | |
I feel angry, yeah, because she made me... | 0:17:00 | 0:17:02 | |
-forced me to lie about how I was feeling. -Yeah. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:05 | |
It's an interesting conflict. You want her to forgive you, | 0:17:05 | 0:17:09 | |
because, as you say, she can make your life... | 0:17:09 | 0:17:12 | |
-Hell. -..hell, | 0:17:12 | 0:17:15 | |
and you want to see Dallas. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:16 | |
Lucy's bringing her parents home today. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:20 | |
Valene and Gary are coming to Southfork. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:23 | |
I need to see what Sue Ellen is wearing. Aargh! | 0:17:25 | 0:17:31 | |
Don't do this. Not tonight. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:38 | |
I can hear them talking! | 0:17:45 | 0:17:47 | |
We're missing the plot. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:49 | |
On the one hand, we know that, when they're outside of their bedroom, | 0:17:49 | 0:17:53 | |
of their home, not only were they silent, | 0:17:53 | 0:17:56 | |
but they were almost unreadable. | 0:17:56 | 0:17:57 | |
Their faces were completely impassive | 0:17:57 | 0:18:00 | |
and they did this extraordinary thing | 0:18:00 | 0:18:02 | |
of moving almost in unison. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:06 | |
'A lot of the process was about exploring, on the one hand, | 0:18:12 | 0:18:17 | |
'this desire to appear to be the same, | 0:18:17 | 0:18:21 | |
'so lots of work mirroring, | 0:18:21 | 0:18:23 | |
'lots of work around moving in unison, | 0:18:23 | 0:18:26 | |
'and yet, underneath that, | 0:18:26 | 0:18:29 | |
'looking at all the tensions, if you like, all the obstacles | 0:18:29 | 0:18:32 | |
'that are making that unity | 0:18:32 | 0:18:36 | |
'become more and more impossible to maintain.' | 0:18:36 | 0:18:39 | |
And Demi, lead. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:41 | |
And Tash, lead. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:52 | |
'In fact, the unity, | 0:18:53 | 0:18:55 | |
'it's not something flowing and smooth and easy. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:59 | |
'In a way, the reason they're having to move in unison | 0:18:59 | 0:19:02 | |
'is in order to cover up all the fractures, | 0:19:02 | 0:19:06 | |
'all the discord that's bristling away underneath, | 0:19:06 | 0:19:10 | |
'and I think that was something that we felt was very important to find, | 0:19:10 | 0:19:14 | |
'that this was a unison that was full of tension.' | 0:19:14 | 0:19:18 | |
And Cathy has left her bag in the room. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:24 | |
And Demi, June really wants to look inside the bag. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:33 | |
'In rehearsal, I will clap my hands in the middle of an improvisation | 0:19:33 | 0:19:37 | |
'or a scene and the actors will express | 0:19:37 | 0:19:40 | |
'whatever it is that they're feeling in that moment, | 0:19:40 | 0:19:43 | |
'totally physically. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:45 | |
'And then when I clap my hands again, | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
'they have to return to the scene and suppress that, cover it up.' | 0:19:48 | 0:19:51 | |
HANDCLAP | 0:19:54 | 0:19:56 | |
THEY HISS | 0:19:56 | 0:19:58 | |
HANDCLAP | 0:20:05 | 0:20:08 | |
And cover it up. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:10 | |
'We see when they're out in the world, | 0:20:10 | 0:20:12 | |
'we see them really kind of paralysed and frozen. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:16 | |
'It wasn't that they couldn't speak, | 0:20:16 | 0:20:19 | |
'it wasn't that they weren't able to speak, | 0:20:19 | 0:20:21 | |
'but that that they were... | 0:20:21 | 0:20:22 | |
'they WOULDN'T speak.' | 0:20:22 | 0:20:24 | |
Hello. I'm Ju... | 0:20:27 | 0:20:31 | |
You want people to know your name, don't you? | 0:20:31 | 0:20:34 | |
What will we call you if we don't know your name? | 0:20:34 | 0:20:36 | |
The twinnies? | 0:20:36 | 0:20:38 | |
Is that who you are? | 0:20:38 | 0:20:39 | |
Is that who you want to be for the rest of your life? | 0:20:39 | 0:20:42 | |
June! | 0:20:42 | 0:20:43 | |
One of June's obstacles to being safe | 0:20:43 | 0:20:46 | |
is that she longs to have a life | 0:20:46 | 0:20:49 | |
and be able to exist out there in the world and to feel valued | 0:20:49 | 0:20:54 | |
and recognised and some of the things that most of us want, | 0:20:54 | 0:20:58 | |
whereas, for Jennifer, I think her biggest obstacle | 0:20:58 | 0:21:02 | |
is her terror that she's going to lose June, | 0:21:02 | 0:21:06 | |
and that without her, she wouldn't be able to survive. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:09 | |
You...are...Jennifer. | 0:21:09 | 0:21:14 | |
You are...me. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:16 | |
I am June! | 0:21:16 | 0:21:19 | |
I...am...June! | 0:21:20 | 0:21:24 | |
-SHE LAUGHS -Well done! | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
Well done, Jennifer. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:33 | |
That's what makes it feel like a real tragedy. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:39 | |
How could these two girls | 0:21:39 | 0:21:41 | |
who had so much going on inside | 0:21:41 | 0:21:45 | |
have ended up in Broadmoor for 12 years | 0:21:45 | 0:21:50 | |
for committing violent crimes? | 0:21:50 | 0:21:52 | |
When people ask us... | 0:22:30 | 0:22:32 | |
When people ask us... | 0:22:32 | 0:22:34 | |
-..how did you two... -..meet... | 0:22:34 | 0:22:36 | |
..they want a story, a good story. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:38 | |
So together, over the years, we have built ours. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:44 | |
A quiet, shared mythology. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:46 | |
Throughout Lovesong, an older couple | 0:22:46 | 0:22:48 | |
are glimpsing these memories of a former self. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:53 | |
And sometimes they don't recognise what they've lost, | 0:22:53 | 0:22:56 | |
or the people they once were. | 0:22:56 | 0:22:57 | |
We've always been inspired by film, and the music video, | 0:23:01 | 0:23:04 | |
and we talk constantly about the change in focus, | 0:23:04 | 0:23:08 | |
from the largest spectacle to the tiniest little moment, | 0:23:08 | 0:23:11 | |
the touch between people. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:13 | |
And we feel that each of those is equally dynamic. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:17 | |
We want to make that brush of skin against skin | 0:23:22 | 0:23:25 | |
explode throughout this theatre, | 0:23:25 | 0:23:28 | |
just as we would want to make any large-scale | 0:23:28 | 0:23:31 | |
physical scene do the same. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:33 | |
But you have to construct the work in a way in which | 0:23:33 | 0:23:37 | |
your audience can see that tiny thing as something massive. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
I think the hand means | 0:23:47 | 0:23:49 | |
-you get stuck on the hand just there. -Yeah, yeah I do. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:52 | |
Whereas if you have her on here, you can actually roll her up | 0:23:52 | 0:23:55 | |
to your chest and shoulder. | 0:23:55 | 0:23:56 | |
Yeah, yeah! | 0:23:56 | 0:23:57 | |
'Whenever we start a project, | 0:23:57 | 0:24:00 | |
'we always recognise that we might have a cast of four, five, six, however many, | 0:24:00 | 0:24:04 | |
'and they've never worked together, | 0:24:04 | 0:24:06 | |
'and they may not have any physical experience,' | 0:24:06 | 0:24:08 | |
but we still recognise this spark within them, | 0:24:08 | 0:24:12 | |
so we need to find a way of bringing that out, | 0:24:12 | 0:24:14 | |
and that needs to be done in an environment that is safe for them, | 0:24:14 | 0:24:17 | |
where they trust each other. But you can't just ask for that. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:21 | |
You've got to create that environment. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:23 | |
Woo! Oh, see, now, | 0:24:23 | 0:24:25 | |
that's different for me going up now. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:28 | |
We do that by setting tasks, and those tasks are very, very simple, | 0:24:28 | 0:24:33 | |
but once everyone's got that, | 0:24:33 | 0:24:35 | |
you move on, and you add and add and add to that. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:38 | |
And what that does, it slowly builds up | 0:24:38 | 0:24:41 | |
a shared level of expertise | 0:24:41 | 0:24:43 | |
amongst the team. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:46 | |
Let's just do a run for memory, just straight through. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:50 | |
One, two, three, | 0:24:50 | 0:24:53 | |
four, five, six... | 0:24:53 | 0:24:56 | |
Probably the most physically demanding scene in Lovesong | 0:24:56 | 0:24:59 | |
has lots of counts. It's quite dangerous | 0:24:59 | 0:25:01 | |
cos they're all flying around in close proximity. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:05 | |
The making of that... you just give it space, | 0:25:05 | 0:25:07 | |
and you give it time, knowing that what you are going to do | 0:25:07 | 0:25:10 | |
over time in the rehearsal room is, once they feel secure, | 0:25:10 | 0:25:13 | |
you're going to squeeze the space, and squeeze the time. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:16 | |
There is a moment in the show where | 0:26:02 | 0:26:05 | |
Maggie opens the cupboards, | 0:26:05 | 0:26:07 | |
tries on these shoes that she holds very dear, | 0:26:07 | 0:26:10 | |
finds that she can't walk in them any more. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:12 | |
It's a particularly heartbreaking moment. When she puts them back, | 0:26:12 | 0:26:16 | |
suddenly she's in the arms of the younger version of her lover. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:19 | |
-It should be one move, yeah? -Oh, right. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:22 | |
But it's just fluid. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:25 | |
It's just slower. | 0:26:25 | 0:26:27 | |
It's just slower, isn't it? | 0:26:27 | 0:26:29 | |
-Yep. -OK. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:30 | |
Lose the feel for it. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:31 | |
Good! Yep, that's all right. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:36 | |
Cool! Yeah! | 0:26:36 | 0:26:38 | |
Our demands of any physical scene within our work | 0:26:38 | 0:26:41 | |
is that it must move the narrative forward. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:43 | |
It's not just there for effect, | 0:26:43 | 0:26:45 | |
it's not just there for shapes. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:48 | |
'They're not just thrown across the stage.' | 0:26:48 | 0:26:50 | |
That one there, let's think about the storytelling of this moment. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:53 | |
It's all very nice, but what is it? It should be an embrace | 0:26:53 | 0:26:56 | |
that she somehow comes out of rather than preparing a space for her to... | 0:26:56 | 0:27:00 | |
That's it, that's it, good. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:02 | |
I need to get closer, yeah. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:04 | |
So, do we look at each other when the hand... | 0:27:06 | 0:27:08 | |
-..or don't we? Or perhaps not? -Even then it's just that, | 0:27:08 | 0:27:11 | |
that's much more interesting. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:13 | |
Because we follow eyes all the time... | 0:27:13 | 0:27:15 | |
OK, so, perhaps we should be looking that way anyway, | 0:27:15 | 0:27:19 | |
-so there isn't a head-turn. -Actually, I know what it is. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:22 | |
Let's try this. So what we'll do is, | 0:27:22 | 0:27:24 | |
we just let the hands happen first, so the hands do that | 0:27:24 | 0:27:27 | |
-and then we look. -And then look, OK. | 0:27:27 | 0:27:31 | |
OK, so it goes... | 0:27:31 | 0:27:32 | |
'When it's as fast and as precise as you want it, | 0:27:33 | 0:27:36 | |
'then you suddenly remind the performers that | 0:27:36 | 0:27:39 | |
'now it's time to perform it, | 0:27:39 | 0:27:41 | |
'it's time to act it, it's time to remember who you are' | 0:27:41 | 0:27:43 | |
on stage in that moment. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:45 | |
And they just fly with it. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:47 | |
Just as she couldn't walk in her shoes a moment ago, | 0:27:50 | 0:27:54 | |
the young life comes in and just | 0:27:54 | 0:27:56 | |
sweeps her across a room like he used to. | 0:27:56 | 0:27:58 | |
It's one of those moments where she grabs strength from memory, | 0:27:59 | 0:28:03 | |
but these moments are fleeting, | 0:28:03 | 0:28:05 | |
and these dreams pass, | 0:28:05 | 0:28:07 | |
and unfortunately, he fades away. | 0:28:07 | 0:28:10 | |
The show has culminated in this crisis in their life, | 0:28:18 | 0:28:22 | |
and they make a decision. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:24 | |
The time has come, they need to act on this, | 0:28:24 | 0:28:28 | |
and that clears the air somehow. | 0:28:28 | 0:28:32 | |
So that scene, where they're all out in the garden, | 0:28:32 | 0:28:37 | |
preparing for this last night or this birthday party, | 0:28:37 | 0:28:40 | |
it had to have all the air and all the excitement of a life well lived | 0:28:40 | 0:28:46 | |
and of a future together all rolled into one. | 0:28:46 | 0:28:50 | |
And that is the story of... | 0:28:50 | 0:28:53 | |
..our beginning. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:56 | |
And this is the story of... | 0:28:58 | 0:29:00 | |
..the end. | 0:29:02 | 0:29:04 | |
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