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BELL TOLLS

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-Just keep it down when you get up there.

-Shh.

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What if it's still there?

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Shh!

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Is all our company here?

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Yep.

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-Hello.

-Yup.

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Hiya!

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-WOH-HOH!

-SCREAMING AND LAUGHTER

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HE LAUGHS

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Is all our company here?

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You're best to call them generally, man by man, according to the script.

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Masters, here is the scroll

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of every man's name,

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who is thought fit, through all Athens,

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to play in our interlude before the duke and the duchess,

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on his wedding day, at night.

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First, good Peter Quince, say what the play treats on,

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then read the names of your actors, and so grow on to a point.

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Marry, our play is,

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"The most lamentable comedy

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"and most cruel death of Pyramus and Thisbe."

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Oh! A very good piece of work, I assure you, and a merry.

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Now, read the names of the actors. Masters, spread yourselves.

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Answer as I call you.

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Nick Bottom, the weaver.

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Ready. Name what part I am for, and proceed.

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-You, Nick Bottom, are set down for Pyramus.

-Yes!

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What is Pyramus,

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a lover or a tyrant?

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It is a lover who kills himself most gallant for love.

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That will ask some tears in the true performing of it.

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If I do it, let the audience look to their eyes.

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I will move storms.

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I will condole in some measure.

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To the rest. Yet, my chief humour is for a tyrant.

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I could play Ercles rarely,

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or a part to tear a cat in, to make all split.

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The raging rocks

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And shivering shocks

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Shall break the locks Of prison gates.

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And Phibbus' car Shall shine from far

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And make and mar

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The foolish Fates.

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-Bravo!

-APPLAUSE

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This was lofty! Now name the rest of the players.

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Francis Flute.

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This was Ercles' vein.

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A tyrant's vein.

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A lover is more condoling.

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Francis Flute, the bellows-mender.

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Here, Peter Quince.

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You, Flute, must take Thisbe on you.

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-What is Thisbe?

-A wandering knight?

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It is the lady that Pyramus must love!

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Nay, faith, let not me play a woman. I have a beard coming.

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That's all one.

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You may play it in a mask, and you may speak as small as you will.

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And I may hide my face, let me play Thisbe, too.

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I will speak in a monstrous little voice.

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"Thisne, Thisne!"

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"Oh, Pyramus, my lover dear!

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"Thy Thisbe dear, and lady dear!"

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No, you must play Pyramus. And, Flute, you Thisbe.

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Well, proceed.

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Robin Starveling, the tailor.

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Here, Peter Quince.

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You must play Thisbe's mother. HE LAUGHS

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-Ay, ay, ay, ay, ay. Tom Snout, the tinker.

-Here, Peter Quince.

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You, Pyramus' father. Myself, Thisbe's father.

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Snug, the joiner. You, the lion's part.

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-And I hope here is a play fitted.

-Have you the lion's part written?

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I pray you, if it be, give it me, for I am slow of study.

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You may do it extempore, for it is nothing but roaring.

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Aar, aar, aar!

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Let me play the lion, too!

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I will roar that will do any man's heart good to hear me.

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I will roar that will make the duke say, "Let him roar again".

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Wooh! "Let him roar again!"

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And you should do it too terribly.

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You would fright the duchess and the ladies

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that they would shriek, and that were enough to hang us all.

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ALL: They would hang us, every mother's son?!

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Granted, friends,

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if we were to fright the ladies out of their wits,

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they would have no more discretion but to hang us.

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-But

-I

-will aggravate my voice,

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so that I will roar you as gently as any sucking dove.

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Rurr!

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Rurr!

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I will roar you, as 'twere any nightingale. Rurr!

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You can play no part but Pyramus!

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For Pyramus...

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Pyramus is a sweet-faced man.

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He's a proper man,

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as you shall see on a summer's day.

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A most lovely, gentleman-like man.

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Therefore, you must needs play Pyramus.

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Well, I will undertake it.

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What beard were I best to play it in?

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Why, what you will.

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I will discharge it in either your straw-coloured beard,

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your orange-tawny beard, your purple-ingrained beard,

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or your French crown-coloured beard, your perfect yellow.

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Some of your French crowns have no hair at all,

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and then you may play bare-faced.

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Bare-faced!

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HE LAUGHS

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Ha-ha-ha! Bare-faced!

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Masters, here are your parts,

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and I must entreat you,

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request you, and desire you,

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to con them by tomorrow night.

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Rurr, rurr, rurr.

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And meet me in the palace woods a mile without the town, by moonlight.

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There will we rehearse. If we meet in the city,

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we shall be dogged with company, and our devices known.

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In the meantime, I'll draw up a bill of properties,

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such as our play wants.

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I pray you fail me not.

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We will meet, and there may we rehearse more obscenely

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and courageously.

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Take pains, be perfect. Adieu!

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At the duke's oak we meet.

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Enough! Hold, or cut bow-strings.

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ALL: Cut bow-strings!

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I think status is an issue in life in general.

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You always need to know where you are in a group, I think.

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As animals, we kind of want to know how we relate to somebody else,

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what our position is.

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OK, so what I think would be a good idea is if we,

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just for an exercise, briefly,

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stand in a line from high status, over there, to lowest status, here,

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of where you think your status is within the group

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-at the beginning of the scene.

-In this first...?

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Absolutely, the beginning of this scene.

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I think we were almost sat in status.

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I'd argue that.

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That's probably right.

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OK, so if this is the highest status,

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then this is the lowest.

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There's even a gap between us. This is an important gap.

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-There's not much of a gap.

-The gap IS important.

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What does Bottom think the status is?

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I'm at the top, then there's Quince. and then everyone else.

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-LAUGHTER

-So, literally, in a group.

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It doesn't matter. It doesn't really matter where they are.

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-This is the battle...

-Yeah, I think so.

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..between Quince and Bottom.

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What about Snug then, Chris? Where would you think

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everybody's status is, and where's your status?

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I am going to take this personally, if you don't.

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I'd put Quince at the top.

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Just from the evidence of within the scene,

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he has a little moment when he has a concern

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about what he's doing in the play, and it's Quince he talks to,

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because he knows Quince is in charge,

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and then this is about right.

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I think he sees himself at the bottom.

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-Yeah. But you together with...

-Yeah.

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I think it would be interesting now to try this scene,

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and let's try playing with the status a bit.

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Let's try playing it with Quince top status,

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-and with Bottom with the low status.

-Bottom down the bottom?

-Yeah.

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Have you the lion's part written?

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I pray you, if it be, give it me, for I am slow of study.

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You may do it extempore, for it is nothing but roaring.

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-Rarr!

-Rarr!

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Let me play the lion, too.

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I will roar that will do any man's heart good to hear me.

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-Rarr!

-I will roar you.

-No, he's playing the lion.

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That'll make the duke say, "Let him roar again".

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You should do it too terribly, you would fright the duchess and

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the ladies that they would shriek. That were enough to hang us all.

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ALL: That would hang us, every mother's son.

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Granted, friends, if we were to fright the ladies

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out of their wits, they would have no more discretion but to hang us.

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I WILL roar you as 'twere any sucking dove.

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As 'twere any nightingale.

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No, no, no. You must play Pyramus.

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And Flute, you, Thisbe!

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I rather liked the sort of submerged...

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That was really weird!

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So weird, and so awkward.

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So awkward. If I was to play really in the lower status there,

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I wouldn't speak. The scene wouldn't move.

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And the others would have cut him off.

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No, I know what you're going to say.

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There's something about Bottom.

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People say, "That's absolute rubbish," all the time to him.

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And he says, "Yeah, but this."

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He's enough of a bluffer

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to speak quickly and get himself out of the hole that he's in.

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The roar. "No, you'd frighten ladies". "Well, I do it like this,

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"and then do that".

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He's always protecting himself,

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which, if you are playing low status, it's really hard to do.

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Giving Quince high status

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seemed to work on a certain level.

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It becomes very overbearing.

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-I

-think Quince is much more into coercing people, persuading,

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or sneaking up on them,

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if you like but not imposing.

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I don't think he imposes.

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But he just niggles away at people until they give in,

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or find themselves doing it despite themselves.

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What would be interesting now, if we could try flipping it.

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Quince low status?

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-Quince low status, and Bottom...

-I'll never get a word in edgeways!

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LAUGHTER

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Oi!

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Have you the lion's part written?

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I pray you, if it be, give it me, for I am slow of study.

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Erm, you may do it extempore, for it is nothing but roaring.

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Let me play the lion, too.

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-I

-will roar you, as 'twere...

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I will roar that will make the duke say "Let him roar again".

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"Let him roar again!"

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APPLAUSE AND WHOOPING

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If you should do it too terribly,

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you would fright the duchess and the ladies that they would shriek.

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But that would be enough to hang us all.

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BOTH: That would hang us, every mother's son(!)

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Granted, friends,

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if we were to fright the ladies out of their wits,

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they would have no more discretion but to hang us.

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-But

-I

-will aggravate my voice.

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-I

-will roar you as 'twere

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-any sucking dove.

-BOTH: Yeah!

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I will roar you as 'twere any nightingale.

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You can play no part but Pyramus.

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Pyramus...is a sweet-faced man.

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He's a proper man, as you shall see on a summer's day.

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He's a most lovely...

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Gentleman?

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..gentleman-like man.

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Therefore, you must needs play Pyramus.

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-And the lion.

-And Thisbe.

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-Yeah, whatever you want to play.

-He can do them all.

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That was really interesting about the persuading him

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to play the part. All of you then joined in the persuasion of him

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to please play this part.

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I think is there is something in that.

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I think we do want to give Bottom that status,

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we do need him, in that sense.

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Status needs everyone else to give it to you.

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You can't believe in your own status, and have that be true.

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If you want to be top status,

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everyone has to be giving that to you.

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It's such a flexible thing.

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We're all in the scene. When it's at its best. We're all flexing

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within our bounds, but it's still a moveable thing.

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I think it would be interesting now to try it with you guys

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fighting the top status between you two,

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or passing it between you and whether you are passing it

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or taking it from each other.

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I will roar that will make the duke say, "Let him roar again.

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"Let him roar again!"

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And you should do it too terribly,

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you would fright the duchess and the ladies that they would shriek.

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That were enough to hang us all.

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ALL: That would hang us, every mother's son.

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Granted, friends,

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if we were to fright the ladies out of their wits,

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they would have no more discretion but to hang us.

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-But

-I

-will aggravate my voice.

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-I

-will roar you as gently as any sucking dove.

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Rurr!

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I will roar you as 'twere any nightingale.

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You can play no part but PYRAMUS!

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Nick, look... For Pyramus is a sweet-faced man.

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He's a proper man, as you shall see on a summer's day.

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A most lovely, gentleman-like man.

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Therefore, you must needs play Pyramus.

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I will undertake it.

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So how did that feel, then?

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It's funny for us.

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I feel like it's watching Mum and Dad argue, or something.

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Exactly that, that's what I felt.

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We're keeping ourselves out of it a bit more,

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letting them get on with it.

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What WAS interesting,

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was having to collude with Bottom,

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on the persuading him.

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Instead of doing it in front of everybody, it was saying,

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"You and I know what it is.

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"You've got to do this, cos look at that lot, they can't do it".

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-And it makes me feel very special.

-Yes.

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It's pumping my status up.

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I think in some senses, you've given it to him for the rest of the scene.

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I felt the status shift very much between you.

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It did, yes.

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I felt very easily led as to which one to listen to,

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so I would be like, "Now I'm going to listen to you".

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I feel that you have status for your project.

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You want the best for your work,

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and you want the work to serve you, as an actor, as a star.

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And that happens in our line of work a lot.

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Some people are team players,

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and really want to make the piece the best it can be.

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Some people want to be the stars, and to stand out.

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That's playing out very neatly in this scene.

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I think almost immediately, there is a certain sense of the clown

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about the six of them.

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About how they enact with other.

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I think you've had a very serious scene just previously,

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and so there is this sense of tension, which they come into.

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We have it in this scene,

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when we come out the trap the door slams,

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and people are uproarious with laughter. They're like,

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"I know this bit, that bit's really funny."

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I think their expectations are telling them, to start with,

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that it should be funny.

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It's like a release,

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but then I think, if you're not funny,

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they'll stop laughing pretty quickly.

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Think of what's gone before.

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A very steamy scene, and then suddenly, us,

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and it's a kind of...

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HE WHISTLES

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Is all our company here?

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You're best to call them generally, man by man,

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according to the scrip.

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Masters, here is the scroll of every man's name,

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who is thought fit, through all Athens, to play in

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our interlude, before the duke and the duchess,

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on his wedding day, at night.

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The language begins to become slightly wrong.

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It's like they're being self- contradictory as they go along.

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"You're best to call them generally, man by man,

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"according to the script", is a contradiction.

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"Call them all at once, but individually".

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Which you can't do.

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And so, there's this sort of sense of fun.

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All of them are using language, or trying to use language,

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-above themselves.

-Above their station.

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-Like, "Discharge it".

-And getting it slightly wrong.

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And Bottom, "I will condole in some measure."

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He doesn't mean that.

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The very first things you say often get a laugh which is ,

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"On his wedding day, at night".

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It tickles you slightly.

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Then, the tragical comedy.

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Lamentable.

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It should be, "LAM-entable",

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but I actually bend the word, so, "la-MENT-able."

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Our play is, "The most lamentable comedy,

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"and most cruel death of Pyramus and Thisbe".

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A very good piece of work, I assure you, and a merry.

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Then you say, "It's a good play, and a merry."

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I go, "Hang on, but it's about death, and it's merry

0:18:200:18:22

"and it's lamentable and it's a comedy?"

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-"Lamentable comedy."

-That often gets a laugh.

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In all Shakespeare's comedies, there are jokes

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that you read and go, "Oh, that's a joke."

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-They're really inaccessible.

-But I have no idea what that's about.

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Absolutely. I think there is one particular joke in this scene

0:18:370:18:40

-which is Quince's.

-The straw-coloured beard.

0:18:400:18:43

-What beard were I best to play it in?

-Why, what you will!

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I will discharge it in either your straw-coloured beard,

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your orange-tawny beard, your purple-ingrained beard,

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your French crown-coloured beard, your perfect yellow.

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Some of your French crowns have no hair at all,

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then you may play bare-faced. BARE-faced!

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HE LAUGHS

0:19:020:19:03

Ha-ha-ha! Bare-FACED!

0:19:030:19:06

I would have no idea what that joke was,

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but because it sounds like a joke, it's paced like a joke.

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It goes, da da da da da dum, da dum, punch line,

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and people react, even though they don't really know

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what they're laughing at.

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A lot of comedy is about rhythm.

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It's about how a line is structured, and sounds on the ear.

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You know you're communicating through that to an audience,

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that they know when to laugh.

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Let's have a look at a bit of this scene,

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when Felix, as Bottom, did the "raging rocks and shivering shocks",

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and whether you consciously play that thinking,

0:19:420:19:45

"I'm going to be funny as an actor."

0:19:450:19:47

-We'll try a few different options.

-OK.

0:19:470:19:49

Shall we get on our feet?

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Let's try it, with you trying to be funny.

0:19:510:19:55

The raging rocks And shivering shocks

0:19:550:20:01

Shall break the locks Of prison gates

0:20:010:20:05

And Phibbus' car

0:20:050:20:08

Shall shine from far

0:20:080:20:11

And make and mar

0:20:110:20:13

The foolish Fates.

0:20:130:20:18

Very good!

0:20:180:20:20

THEY LAUGH

0:20:200:20:21

-I quite like that.

-It was the leg.

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It was like some sort of funky chicken.

0:20:240:20:27

-So what did that feel like to do?

-It felt weird.

0:20:270:20:29

I felt very self-conscious because I was...

0:20:290:20:32

-Just making silly voices.

-Yeah, slightly.

0:20:320:20:34

A bit trying too hard, as if I was trying to be funny.

0:20:340:20:38

What makes that speech funny, though?

0:20:380:20:41

I think what makes that speech funny

0:20:410:20:43

is the attempt to do it as well as you can.

0:20:430:20:47

It's like a kind of honest misunderstanding, almost, isn't it?

0:20:470:20:51

It's what he believes an actor should be.

0:20:510:20:56

I've seen a few. That's what they do, they stand there and they,

0:20:560:20:59

they stand at the front and put their arms like this

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and then they do the speech.

0:21:020:21:03

Because if it isn't an honest misunderstanding,

0:21:030:21:06

-then he just becomes rather dislikeable, doesn't he?

-Yeah.

0:21:060:21:10

There's a sort of disjunction between his idea of his own talent

0:21:100:21:13

and the execution of it. I suppose that's what's really funny.

0:21:130:21:16

As soon as you have an actor who suddenly becomes

0:21:160:21:19

a little self-aware, or a Bottom that becomes self aware

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that it's not going that well,

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or that it isn't the best performance he could have given,

0:21:230:21:26

then that's not funny, or not so funny.

0:21:260:21:28

But if he believes he's doing the best he possibly can,

0:21:280:21:31

and that he might win an Oscar at the end,

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that's going to be priceless.

0:21:330:21:35

DRUMS PLAY

0:21:380:21:41

Ill met by moonlight, proud Titania.

0:21:530:21:57

What, jealous Oberon?

0:21:570:22:01

Fairies, skip hence.

0:22:010:22:03

I have forsworn his bed and company.

0:22:030:22:07

Tarry, rash wanton!

0:22:070:22:08

Am not I thy lord?

0:22:080:22:10

Then I must be thy lady.

0:22:100:22:13

But I know when thou hast stol'n away from fairy land,

0:22:130:22:19

And in the shape of Corin sat all day,

0:22:190:22:23

Playing on pipes of corn and versing love to amorous Phillida.

0:22:230:22:28

Why art thou here, come from the farthest step of India?

0:22:300:22:33

But that, forsooth, the bouncing Amazon,

0:22:330:22:37

Your buskined mistress and your warrior love,

0:22:370:22:43

To Theseus must be wedded.

0:22:430:22:45

And you come to give their bed joy and prosperity?

0:22:450:22:49

How canst thou thus for shame, Titania,

0:22:490:22:53

Glance at my credit with Hippolyta,

0:22:530:22:55

knowing I know thy love to Theseus?

0:22:550:22:58

Didst not thou lead him through the glimmering night

0:22:580:23:02

from Perigenia whom he ravished?

0:23:020:23:04

And make him with fair Aegles break his faith

0:23:040:23:07

with Ariadne and Antiopa?

0:23:070:23:10

These are the forgeries of jealousy,

0:23:100:23:12

and never since the middle summer's spring met we on hill,

0:23:120:23:15

in dale, forest or mead,

0:23:150:23:17

by paved fountain or by rushy brook,

0:23:170:23:19

or in the beached margent of the sea

0:23:190:23:21

to dance our ringlets to the whistling wind,

0:23:210:23:24

but with thy brawls thou hast disturbed our sport.

0:23:240:23:28

Therefore the winds,

0:23:300:23:32

piping to us in vain,

0:23:320:23:34

as in revenge, have sucked up from the sea contagious fogs,

0:23:340:23:39

which falling in the land hath every pelting river

0:23:390:23:43

made so proud that they have overborne their continents.

0:23:430:23:49

The ox hath therefore stretched his yoke in vain,

0:23:490:23:53

the ploughman lost his sweat,

0:23:540:23:56

and the green corn hath rotted ere his youth attained a beard.

0:23:580:24:02

The fold stands empty in the drowned field,

0:24:040:24:08

and crows are fatted with the murrion flock.

0:24:080:24:12

The nine men's morris is filled up with mud,

0:24:120:24:15

and the quaint mazes in the wanton green

0:24:150:24:18

for lack of tread are undistinguishable.

0:24:180:24:22

The human mortals want their winter here.

0:24:220:24:25

No night is now with hymn or carol blessed.

0:24:270:24:31

Therefore the moon, the governess of floods,

0:24:320:24:36

Pale in her anger, washes all the air,

0:24:360:24:42

that rheumatic diseases do abound.

0:24:420:24:45

And thorough this distemperature we see the seasons alter,

0:24:450:24:51

hoary-headed frosts fall in the fresh lap of the crimson rose,

0:24:510:24:57

and on old Hiems' thin and icy crown

0:24:570:25:01

an odorous chaplet of sweet summer buds

0:25:010:25:08

is, as in mockery, set.

0:25:080:25:13

The spring, the summer,

0:25:140:25:17

the childing autumn, angry winter,

0:25:190:25:23

change their wonted liveries,

0:25:230:25:26

and the mazed world by their increase

0:25:260:25:29

now knows not which is which.

0:25:290:25:33

And this same progeny of evils comes from our debate,

0:25:330:25:39

from our dissension.

0:25:390:25:41

We are their parents and original.

0:25:410:25:45

Do you amend it then,

0:25:450:25:47

it lies in you.

0:25:470:25:48

Why should Titania cross her Oberon?

0:25:490:25:53

I do but beg a little changeling boy

0:25:530:25:56

to be my henchman.

0:25:560:25:58

Set your heart at rest.

0:26:000:26:03

The fairy land buys not the child of me.

0:26:070:26:11

His mother was a votress of my order,

0:26:150:26:18

And in the spiced Indian air by night

0:26:180:26:23

Full often hath she gossiped by my side,

0:26:230:26:27

and sat with me on Neptune's yellow sands,

0:26:270:26:32

Marking th'embarked traders on the flood,

0:26:320:26:37

when we have laughed to see the sails conceive

0:26:370:26:42

and grow big-bellied with the wanton wind,

0:26:420:26:47

which she,

0:26:470:26:49

with pretty and with swimming gait following

0:26:490:26:55

her womb then rich with my young squire

0:26:550:27:00

would imitate, and sail upon the land,

0:27:000:27:04

to fetch me trifles, and return again

0:27:040:27:09

as from a voyage, rich with merchandise.

0:27:090:27:15

But she, being mortal, of that boy did die.

0:27:150:27:20

And for her sake do I rear up her boy,

0:27:220:27:28

and for her sake I will not part with him.

0:27:290:27:34

How long within this wood intend you stay?

0:27:340:27:37

Perchance till after Theseus' wedding day.

0:27:370:27:40

FAIRIES LAUGH

0:27:400:27:41

If you will patiently dance in our round

0:27:430:27:45

and see our moonlight revels, go with us.

0:27:450:27:48

If not, shun me, and I will spare your haunts.

0:27:480:27:53

SHE WHOOPS

0:28:030:28:07

Give me that boy, and I will go with thee.

0:28:070:28:09

Not for thy fairy kingdom.

0:28:090:28:12

Fairies, away.

0:28:120:28:13

We shall chide downright, if I longer stay.

0:28:130:28:16

Well, go thy way!

0:28:180:28:19

Thou shalt not from this grove till I torment thee for this injury.

0:28:190:28:24

What is your want during that speech?

0:28:340:28:37

What do you want to achieve?

0:28:370:28:39

-I want to awaken him.

-Mmm.

0:28:390:28:41

I want to shake him.

0:28:410:28:43

-Which is why you show him all those images?

-Yeah.

0:28:430:28:46

Somehow it feels like the world,

0:28:460:28:49

the worlds,

0:28:490:28:51

are centred around Titania and Oberon.

0:28:510:28:54

so when nature is happy

0:28:540:28:55

that's because there is peace between them,

0:28:550:28:58

and when they are at war,

0:28:580:29:00

the effect and consequence of that is world disaster.

0:29:000:29:05

Therefore the winds,

0:29:050:29:07

piping to us in vain, as in revenge,

0:29:070:29:10

have sucked up from the sea contagious fogs.

0:29:100:29:14

She says that the wind,

0:29:140:29:17

it's the winds that are angry

0:29:170:29:18

and so they have caused these contagious fogs

0:29:180:29:21

that then have poisoned the land

0:29:210:29:24

and therefore the crows are now eating the dead animals

0:29:240:29:28

and again, there's poison within their own body.

0:29:280:29:30

The ox hath therefore stretched his yoke in vain.

0:29:300:29:34

The ploughman lost his sweat,

0:29:350:29:38

and the green corn hath rotted ere his youth attained a beard.

0:29:380:29:43

It's interesting that Shakespeare does that thing

0:29:430:29:46

of making them into people. For example,

0:29:460:29:47

the young corn is rotted in the field

0:29:470:29:51

before his youth has attained a beard.

0:29:510:29:53

-Before he's aged.

-So there's the interesting idea

0:29:530:29:56

that you get through to him

0:29:560:29:59

by making him think of

0:29:590:30:01

the seasons and the corn as human beings who are being damaged

0:30:010:30:05

rather than trying to get people to care about corn.

0:30:050:30:08

Titania personalises it for him on this sort of epic scale.

0:30:080:30:12

We see the seasons alter,

0:30:120:30:15

hoary-headed frosts fall in the fresh lap of the crimson rose,

0:30:150:30:21

and on old Hiems' thin and icy crown,

0:30:210:30:25

an odorous chaplet of sweet summer buds.

0:30:250:30:33

There's lovely images of things like...

0:30:330:30:35

-Yeah...

-What is it? The hoary-headed frost...

0:30:350:30:37

The hoary-headed frost falls

0:30:370:30:39

in the fresh lap of the crimson rose.

0:30:390:30:41

The idea that the rose is full of frost...

0:30:410:30:44

-Yeah.

-And, of course, what's so astonishing is,

0:30:440:30:47

now we all really can connect with that because of climate change.

0:30:470:30:51

-Yeah.

-The idea that you're going to get ice during the summer or...

0:30:510:30:56

then the next one is about old Hiem's winter.

0:30:560:30:59

Old Hiem's winter, and so on his thin and icy crown

0:30:590:31:03

that I see, like, a patch of snow,

0:31:030:31:07

and from that snow

0:31:070:31:09

all of a sudden there are these beautiful summer flowers

0:31:090:31:12

that have budded.

0:31:120:31:13

So winter is an old man who has this crown of roses

0:31:130:31:17

and so it's mocking his winteriness.

0:31:170:31:19

Yeah. It's a mockery on our seasons

0:31:190:31:21

and particularly like you know living in England

0:31:210:31:24

we get to see the seasons so clearly,

0:31:240:31:26

-and it's like they have been...

-Altered.

-..fiddled with, altered,

0:31:260:31:31

because of our arguments.

0:31:310:31:33

These are gods, and the fact that they have these kind of human foibles

0:31:330:31:37

means that they fall out and that it affects the seasons.

0:31:370:31:42

It affects everybody in the universe.

0:31:420:31:45

The spring, the summer,

0:31:450:31:49

the childing autumn,

0:31:490:31:51

angry winter, change their wonted liveries, and the mazed world

0:31:510:31:56

by their increase now knows not which is which.

0:31:560:32:01

And this same progeny of evils comes from our debate,

0:32:010:32:05

from our dissension.

0:32:050:32:07

By the end of the speech she actually says

0:32:070:32:10

they're our progeny, our children.

0:32:100:32:12

-What if we said that these were your children?

-Yeah.

0:32:120:32:16

And let's say that it's like a couple who are divorcing

0:32:160:32:19

or arguing a lot

0:32:190:32:22

and the children are now becoming quite ill.

0:32:220:32:25

But with thy brawls thou hast disturbed our sport.

0:32:290:32:33

Therefore the winds,

0:32:350:32:38

piping to us in vain,

0:32:380:32:41

as in revenge, have sucked up from the sea contagious fogs,

0:32:410:32:46

which falling in the land

0:32:460:32:49

hath every pelting river made so proud

0:32:490:32:55

that they have overborne their continents.

0:32:550:32:58

The ox hath therefore ploughed his field in vain...

0:33:010:33:06

..the ploughman lost his sweat,

0:33:070:33:11

and the green corn hath rotted ere his youth attained a beard.

0:33:110:33:15

Did it feel any different or was it just an interesting...?

0:33:150:33:18

It did feel different, I wanted to go into more of the details.

0:33:180:33:22

Things, like, I can imagine

0:33:220:33:23

their teeth would probably be falling out.

0:33:230:33:26

You know, their stomachs were rumbling with hunger.

0:33:260:33:28

It makes you think of all those

0:33:280:33:31

-terrible images of famine, doesn't it?

-Yeah.

0:33:310:33:33

Yes, exactly. Famine and disease.

0:33:330:33:35

The fold stands empty in the drowned field,

0:33:350:33:39

and crows are fatted with the murrion flock.

0:33:390:33:44

The nine men's morris is filled up with mud...

0:33:440:33:49

and the quaint mazes in the wanton green

0:33:510:33:55

for lack of tread are undistinguishable.

0:33:550:33:58

I remember studying it at school

0:33:580:34:00

and for me, probably, that speech went for nothing,

0:34:000:34:02

because you read it and you sort of don't understand it

0:34:020:34:05

so then having a physicality to it

0:34:050:34:08

and being able to see each of those images

0:34:080:34:11

as the children of them,

0:34:110:34:14

because I think that, in some ways,

0:34:140:34:16

Titania and Oberon are mother and father earth.

0:34:160:34:19

-Mother and father nature.

-Yeah.

0:34:190:34:21

And to be able to have that association

0:34:210:34:23

with each of those images

0:34:230:34:25

allows you to unlock that speech.

0:34:250:34:29

If you do an improvisation like that,

0:34:290:34:31

it means that the actors, they've, they've experienced it together.

0:34:310:34:35

When they talk about those things later when doing the play,

0:34:350:34:38

they have such strong visual and physical and central memories

0:34:380:34:43

of what it feels like to feel

0:34:430:34:45

that these things are their children.

0:34:450:34:47

We've tasted it, we've touched it, we've, we've lived it.

0:34:470:34:51

I still think that when people hear it in performance,

0:34:510:34:53

they probably don't understand everything,

0:34:530:34:56

but hopefully, they'll have a feel and go,

0:34:560:34:58

"My goodness, you know, this person really cares

0:34:580:35:01

"about all of these images and it's having an effect on this person",

0:35:010:35:05

and, actually, at the end of going,

0:35:050:35:08

"All of this disaster has come because of us,"

0:35:080:35:11

hopefully then people will go, "Oh, yes. I understand."

0:35:110:35:14

Titania and Oberon are fighting over a baby.

0:35:190:35:21

It's very important to them.

0:35:210:35:24

Oberon wants it but Titania has the child

0:35:240:35:27

and it's her way of having some power over him.

0:35:270:35:31

At the beginning of the play, it's terribly important,

0:35:310:35:34

the fact that she has the boy, he wants the boy,

0:35:340:35:37

this is what they're arguing about.

0:35:370:35:39

Set your heart at rest.

0:35:390:35:41

The fairy land buys not the child of me.

0:35:440:35:49

His mother was a votress of my order.

0:35:510:35:55

And in the spiced Indian air by night,

0:35:550:35:59

full often hath she gossiped by my side.

0:35:590:36:03

Titania talks about this votress,

0:36:030:36:05

this woman she was friends with, she had this special bond with,

0:36:050:36:09

and she gave birth to this baby boy

0:36:090:36:13

and she died giving birth to him,

0:36:130:36:16

and that's why Titania has the child

0:36:160:36:18

and nothing that Oberon can do

0:36:180:36:21

can separate Titania from the bond that she has with the child.

0:36:210:36:24

Why did Shakespeare write that whole speech about the votress?

0:36:240:36:29

I don't know. It feels like a very sensual piece.

0:36:290:36:32

It's about intimacy, it's about friendship.

0:36:320:36:35

It's about loyalty, it's about love.

0:36:350:36:37

One of the things we've talked about is this idea that the child

0:36:370:36:40

in this instance represents love,

0:36:400:36:43

and that he feels that what he wants

0:36:430:36:45

is for Titania to love him the way she loves that woman.

0:36:450:36:50

You know, that isn't just a sexual thing, it's to have a real love.

0:36:500:36:54

It's a wonderful monologue that Titania has

0:36:590:37:01

when she's describing how she got the child

0:37:010:37:05

and what her...what her friendship to the votress meant,

0:37:050:37:09

and what we decided to do was to bring to life the votress,

0:37:090:37:13

so that the audience can really get what Titania's talking about.

0:37:130:37:17

I like to think she has, through her imagination,

0:37:170:37:20

conjured this beautiful votress up

0:37:200:37:24

that walks across the stage.

0:37:240:37:26

Which she, with pretty and with swimming gait following -

0:37:260:37:33

her womb then rich with my young squire.

0:37:330:37:37

It's more than just a walk, really,

0:37:370:37:39

because it's our friendship that we're displaying,

0:37:390:37:42

and saying, "I'm here. I was real and I was part of your journey

0:37:420:37:46

"and our journey was important."

0:37:460:37:49

What would it be like if we didn't see her?

0:37:490:37:53

We'd be asking the audience

0:37:530:37:54

to see her in their mind's eye, wouldn't we?

0:37:540:37:57

If we didn't, how do you still bring alive that memory

0:37:570:38:02

and convey the closeness of that relationship?

0:38:020:38:06

Let's do it and see what it feels like, shall we?

0:38:060:38:09

Yeah, cool.

0:38:090:38:11

When we have laughed to see the sails conceive

0:38:110:38:15

and grow big-bellied with the wanton wind,

0:38:150:38:19

which she, with pretty

0:38:190:38:23

and with swimming gait following...

0:38:230:38:27

She goes into a description of this woman so intimately

0:38:270:38:31

that it felt like I didn't want to say that directly to him.

0:38:310:38:35

-It was something so private that I...

-Yeah.

0:38:350:38:37

..it made me want to remember and smell her.

0:38:370:38:39

But it's odd, because it doesn't advance your argument.

0:38:390:38:42

-It certainly doesn't help in making him see your point of view.

-No.

0:38:420:38:47

Oberon says, "It's so simple.

0:38:470:38:50

"I'm so frustrated with you because it's so simple.

0:38:500:38:53

"You just give me the boy and then we can move on."

0:38:530:38:55

And she's saying, "No, you know it's bigger than that."

0:38:550:38:58

-What if you come back and you give her the baby immediately?

-OK.

0:39:030:39:07

And you sit down with it and then you just say

0:39:070:39:10

you're not having it,

0:39:100:39:12

you're not having it, because I tell you something so special,

0:39:120:39:15

something so special and if you...

0:39:150:39:17

I think maybe if you just physicalise a bit

0:39:170:39:20

as you're listening, just by moving back and forth, like a,

0:39:200:39:23

sort of, "I find this unbearable."

0:39:230:39:27

When we have laughed to see the sails conceive

0:39:280:39:33

and grow big-bellied with the wanton wind,

0:39:330:39:37

which she, with pretty and with swimming gait, following,

0:39:370:39:43

her womb then rich with my young squire...

0:39:430:39:47

..would imitate, and sail upon the land,

0:39:490:39:54

to fetch me trifles, and return again

0:39:540:39:58

as from a voyage, rich with merchandise.

0:39:580:40:01

'He's seeing her being incredibly affectionate

0:40:010:40:04

'and loving and protective,'

0:40:040:40:05

not only to the votress, but also this tiny baby -

0:40:050:40:08

like, even just doing it then, and you were saying,

0:40:080:40:11

"Just sit in this chair and tell it to him,"

0:40:110:40:13

it felt like, "I'm going to tell it to you,

0:40:130:40:15

"but I'm also telling it to this little, tiny thing in my arms."

0:40:150:40:18

That shifts the speech, because in our production

0:40:180:40:22

that speech is absolutely about the votress,

0:40:220:40:25

whereas, with the child in my arms,

0:40:250:40:28

it felt like the speech was about the child.

0:40:280:40:30

Seeing that must make you feel so... Urgh!

0:40:300:40:33

I want to... It's almost like I want to get the child

0:40:330:40:37

to get rid of that affection that you have for him.

0:40:370:40:40

-Cos I want to be at the centre of your universe.

-Exactly, exactly.

0:40:400:40:43

I love thee not, therefore pursue me not.

0:40:530:40:56

Where is Lysander and fair Hermia?

0:40:560:41:00

The one I'll slay, the other slayeth me.

0:41:000:41:03

Thou told'st me they were stolen into this wood.

0:41:030:41:06

And here am I, and wood within this wood,

0:41:060:41:09

Because I cannot meet my Hermia. Hence, get thee gone

0:41:090:41:13

and follow me no more.

0:41:130:41:15

You draw me, you hard-hearted adamant,

0:41:150:41:20

but yet you draw not iron, for my heart is true as steel.

0:41:200:41:26

Leave you your power to draw,

0:41:260:41:29

and I shall have no power to follow you.

0:41:290:41:32

Do I entice you? Do I speak you fair?

0:41:320:41:34

Or rather, do I not, in plainest truth,

0:41:340:41:37

tell you I do not, nor I cannot love you?

0:41:370:41:41

And even for that do I love you the more.

0:41:410:41:45

I am your...

0:41:450:41:48

..spaniel.

0:41:490:41:50

And, Demetrius,

0:41:500:41:52

the more you beat me, I will fawn on you.

0:41:520:41:54

Use me, but as your spaniel.

0:41:550:41:58

Spurn me,

0:41:590:42:01

strike me,

0:42:010:42:03

neglect me, lose me -

0:42:030:42:06

only give me leave, unworthy as I am, to follow you.

0:42:060:42:11

What worser place can I beg in your love -

0:42:110:42:13

and yet a place of high respect with me -

0:42:130:42:16

than to be used as you use your dog?

0:42:160:42:21

SHE MIMICS DOG YAPPING

0:42:230:42:24

SHE GIGGLES

0:42:240:42:26

Tempt not too much the hatred of my spirit,

0:42:280:42:33

for I am sick when I do look on thee.

0:42:330:42:37

And I am sick when I look not on you.

0:42:370:42:41

Hmm?

0:42:450:42:47

You do impeach your modesty too much

0:43:010:43:05

to leave the city and commit yourself

0:43:050:43:08

into the hands of one that loves you not,

0:43:080:43:11

to trust the opportunity of night

0:43:110:43:13

and the ill counsel of a desert place

0:43:130:43:15

with the rich worth of your virginity.

0:43:150:43:18

Your virtue is my privilege,

0:43:180:43:21

for that it is not night when I do see your face,

0:43:210:43:24

and therefore I think I am not in the night,

0:43:240:43:27

and nor doth this wood lack worlds of company,

0:43:270:43:32

for you, in my respect, are all the world -

0:43:320:43:36

then how can it be said I am alone,

0:43:360:43:39

when all the world is here to look on me?

0:43:390:43:42

I'll run from thee and hide me in the brakes,

0:43:420:43:44

and leave thee to the mercy of wild beasts.

0:43:440:43:47

Oh, the wildest hath not such a heart as you!

0:43:470:43:51

Run when you will, the story shall be changed -

0:43:520:43:55

Apollo flies, and Daphne holds the chase.

0:43:550:43:58

Yeah, the mild hind makes speed to catch the tiger.

0:43:580:44:02

Bootless speed, when... When cowardice pursues and valour flies.

0:44:020:44:06

I will not stay thy questions - let me go!

0:44:060:44:09

Or if thou follow me, do not believe,

0:44:090:44:12

but I shall do thee mischief in the wood.

0:44:120:44:15

Ah!

0:44:150:44:17

Ay, in the temple, in the town, the field,

0:44:220:44:28

you do me mischief.

0:44:280:44:30

SHE WHIMPERS ANGRILY

0:44:300:44:32

Fie, Demetrius!

0:44:320:44:35

Your wrongs do set a scandal on my sex.

0:44:350:44:40

We cannot fight for love, as men may do...

0:44:400:44:45

No, we should be wooed

0:44:450:44:48

and were not made to woo.

0:44:480:44:51

Well, I will follow thee and make a heaven of hell,

0:44:540:45:00

to die upon the hand I love so well!

0:45:000:45:06

I thought it might just be interesting

0:45:180:45:20

to talk about these two characters, because there are only, really,

0:45:200:45:24

-small hints in the text to go on, aren't there?

-Yeah.

0:45:240:45:28

So what does the text tell us about Helena's background or who she is?

0:45:280:45:32

She always... Not always,

0:45:320:45:34

but she's very often referencing her appearance.

0:45:340:45:37

Yeah, her looks, just, the way her body is.

0:45:370:45:41

It certainly gave me a sense

0:45:410:45:43

of her perhaps not feeling as comfortable in her body

0:45:430:45:46

as she once did, which I think is quite a teenage thing, you know?

0:45:460:45:49

-Coming to terms with this changing body.

-OK.

0:45:490:45:52

And what about Demetrius? So often people say,

0:45:520:45:55

"There's no difference between Lysander and Demetrius,"

0:45:550:45:58

-which I think is strange...

-I think there's a huge difference.

0:45:580:46:01

Lysander is so, kind of poetic.

0:46:010:46:03

Lysander will use images, whereas Demetrius is quite

0:46:030:46:07

straightforward in his language, I think, and in terms of his actions

0:46:070:46:12

and the way he treats people, Lysander seems more compassionate

0:46:120:46:16

in the way that he talks to both Hermia and Helena.

0:46:160:46:19

And Demetrius seems much more...

0:46:190:46:20

Is more blunt, I think, and uses more underhand...

0:46:200:46:23

He kind of uses...

0:46:230:46:24

..possibly, crueller tactics to get what he wants.

0:46:260:46:28

I thought it might just be interesting to try to think,

0:46:280:46:31

"Why did they first get together?"

0:46:310:46:33

There's something quite ambitious about Demetrius.

0:46:330:46:37

That's quite attractive,

0:46:370:46:39

especially for a girl who doesn't have a particularly loud voice

0:46:390:46:45

and isn't entirely sure of herself.

0:46:450:46:47

I always assumed she fancied me because I was a bit...

0:46:470:46:51

of rough.

0:46:510:46:52

Like I was, you know, a bit...

0:46:520:46:54

A bit edgy and a bit, sort of, aloof and a bit nasty,

0:46:540:46:58

and that somehow there's part of you who wants someone who's like that.

0:46:580:47:02

At school everyone fancied the guy

0:47:020:47:04

who was a bit horrible and a bit cold.

0:47:040:47:06

-NANCY LAUGHS

-I, sort of, think... I remember no-one ever fancied

0:47:060:47:10

the nice guy who was a bit sensitive and... You know?

0:47:100:47:13

OK, so could we just do a small improvisation?

0:47:130:47:17

Let's say that you've noticed that whenever you go to,

0:47:170:47:20

you know, weddings - because I'm sure there's lots of weddings

0:47:200:47:23

and parties and things in this world -

0:47:230:47:25

you've noticed that she's always looking at you.

0:47:250:47:27

So, if you decide to go and chat her up,

0:47:270:47:31

just to see whether or not it is something

0:47:310:47:33

you would want to take a bit further.

0:47:330:47:35

You keep looking at me.

0:47:430:47:44

No, I...

0:47:460:47:47

DEMETRIUS LAUGHS No, I don't...

0:47:470:47:49

DEMETRIUS LAUGHS

0:47:490:47:51

-I just...

-Caught out. Caught out!

0:47:510:47:53

Hello, I'm Demetrius.

0:47:530:47:55

-Hello, I'm Helena.

-Nice to meet you. How you doing?

0:47:550:47:58

Soft, nice. Slightly sweaty, though.

0:47:580:48:00

THEY LAUGH Am I? Sorry.

0:48:000:48:03

Are you having a nice time?

0:48:030:48:05

Yeah, it's just a bit hot.

0:48:050:48:07

THEY LAUGH

0:48:070:48:09

So, why are you looking at me?

0:48:140:48:16

-I wasn't looking at you?

-You were! You were.

0:48:160:48:18

-Well, if...

-It's all right. Go on.

0:48:180:48:20

If you saw me, it means you were looking at me.

0:48:200:48:22

Yeah, but I just looked at you cos you kept looking at me,

0:48:220:48:25

then we did that thing where I look at you,

0:48:250:48:27

and you think I'm looking at you, cos I am,

0:48:270:48:29

but I'm not, I'm looking cos you were,

0:48:290:48:31

to see if you were looking at me, and you were.

0:48:310:48:33

I was, but I was just...

0:48:330:48:35

Yeah. Anyway. Sorry.

0:48:350:48:38

-No, it's all right.

-Um...

0:48:380:48:41

You could easily imagine that growing into this feeling

0:48:410:48:44

that they're crazy about each other, couldn't you?

0:48:440:48:46

-Yeah, yeah.

-I mean, especially if you think they never actually...

0:48:460:48:51

Their chances for real intimacy

0:48:510:48:53

and spending real time together would be very small.

0:48:530:48:56

They don't know each other, really, that well.

0:48:560:48:59

It's just an idea, and a passion.

0:48:590:49:02

In terms of whether Demetrius originally loved Helena or not,

0:49:020:49:06

I think it says that they're betrothed.

0:49:060:49:08

She says that he showered her with oaths and, um,

0:49:080:49:13

that he made verbal love to her, you know, that he was wooing her,

0:49:130:49:18

and so I think, yeah, I think he probably was

0:49:180:49:22

and then, as young men can do at times, and young women,

0:49:220:49:26

switched very quickly to someone else.

0:49:260:49:29

The fact that he then gets completely obsessed

0:49:290:49:33

with this idea of marrying Hermia.

0:49:330:49:35

-Mm.

-Did you have it in your mind what that was all about?

0:49:350:49:39

Well, it could be the more he gets to know Helena

0:49:390:49:42

that there's a, sort of, tipping point,

0:49:420:49:45

that she's really interesting,

0:49:450:49:46

then after a while she's just a bit nuts.

0:49:460:49:48

Like, that she's a bit too into him, a bit too worried.

0:49:480:49:52

-And dependent

-Yeah, and dependent.

0:49:520:49:54

Whereas Hermia seems really feisty and really strong-willed,

0:49:540:49:59

and really confident.

0:49:590:50:01

Maybe that's a challenge and that's attractive or...

0:50:010:50:03

Which is a terrible cycle as well, because the more you feel that way

0:50:030:50:07

towards Hermia and the less interested you are with me,

0:50:070:50:10

-the more needy I become.

-Exactly, yeah.

0:50:100:50:12

I think Helena is often played very whiney and victim-y.

0:50:150:50:19

It would just be nice to just look at that extreme,

0:50:190:50:22

just to see what it does to the scene.

0:50:220:50:24

I am your spaniel,

0:50:260:50:31

and, Demetrius, the more you beat me,

0:50:310:50:34

I will fawn on you.

0:50:340:50:35

Use me, but as your spaniel.

0:50:350:50:38

Spurn me, strike me, neglect me, lose me -

0:50:380:50:42

only give me leave, unworthy as I am, to follow you.

0:50:420:50:47

I think her behaviour is quite "weak victim",

0:50:470:50:50

I mean, by virtue of the fact that she's chasing him around the forest

0:50:500:50:54

and stalking him, but her words are a lot stronger than that

0:50:540:50:58

and she's using some clever arguments

0:50:580:51:00

and she's playing on words, which is quite a flirty thing to do,

0:51:000:51:03

I think it's quite a charming thing to do.

0:51:030:51:05

I think to be that subservient and that whingey undermines...her.

0:51:050:51:11

She's fighting against being a complete, sobbing victim,

0:51:110:51:16

a complete wreck,

0:51:160:51:18

so I think it's really good to play that,

0:51:180:51:20

so that you know that that's there and that's simmering away,

0:51:200:51:23

but I think the text is more sophisticated than that,

0:51:230:51:25

and I think there's more to be found than that.

0:51:250:51:27

If Helena is JUST a victim, that's unattractive for Demetrius.

0:51:270:51:33

I don't think it really would mean that he would give up

0:51:330:51:36

his pursuit of Hermia

0:51:360:51:38

just because he feels bad.

0:51:380:51:40

Guilt doesn't seem to be a huge part of his make-up.

0:51:400:51:44

Is there an element that we could look at

0:51:440:51:46

that maybe we haven't so far, in terms of their characters?

0:51:460:51:49

We could try and be more reasonable with each other.

0:51:490:51:54

You know, that we did have a relationship, we did get on,

0:51:540:51:57

and try and find that ground to communicate with one other.

0:51:570:52:01

Slightly more adult, kind of... Everything under the surface.

0:52:010:52:04

It's more verbal, in a way, then,

0:52:040:52:07

-because it's really more about what you are...

-Arguing. Reasoning.

-Mm.

0:52:070:52:10

Use me, but as your spaniel.

0:52:130:52:15

Spurn me, strike me, neglect me, lose me -

0:52:150:52:20

only give me leave, unworthy as I am, to follow you.

0:52:200:52:25

What worser place can I beg in your love -

0:52:250:52:29

and yet a place of high respect with me

0:52:290:52:33

than to be used as you do use your dog?

0:52:330:52:36

You do impeach your modesty too much

0:52:360:52:38

to leave the city and commit yourself

0:52:380:52:41

into the hands of one that loves you not.

0:52:410:52:44

What's really so useful about that is really hearing...

0:52:440:52:48

Getting a chance to really do the arguments.

0:52:480:52:50

In a way, you're taking the physicality out of it,

0:52:500:52:53

saying this is much more about my mind trying to affect your mind

0:52:530:52:57

and I think what we know is that,

0:52:570:52:59

particularly because they are teenagers,

0:52:590:53:01

you can't take the body out of it.

0:53:010:53:03

You don't want to take out the excitement of the physical presence.

0:53:030:53:06

Yeah, I think it makes it more adult

0:53:060:53:09

and I think if they were capable of having this kind of conversation

0:53:090:53:12

-they probably wouldn't be in this situation.

-Mm.

0:53:120:53:15

If someone is being very reasonable to you,

0:53:150:53:17

it's very hard to step out of being reasonable with them,

0:53:170:53:22

you know, if they are not trying to use emotional tactics,

0:53:220:53:25

but more those of the mind, and seem in a sound mind

0:53:250:53:28

in the way that they're trying to convince you of something,

0:53:280:53:32

it's much harder to, one, write off their argument

0:53:320:53:37

as emotional manipulation or sort of, you know, love-induced lunacy,

0:53:370:53:41

so you have to take them more seriously, I think.

0:53:410:53:43

If we are trying to understand it in modern terms -

0:53:430:53:46

cos, after all, we want to make it work for a modern audience -

0:53:460:53:49

looking at these two in the woods

0:53:490:53:50

they would be much more sexually active, probably, at their age.

0:53:500:53:54

So what would it be like if she really was thinking,

0:53:540:53:57

"Well, the only way to get a boy is to offer yourself sexually."

0:53:570:54:00

I am your...spaniel.

0:54:040:54:07

And, Demetrius, the more you beat me,

0:54:070:54:10

I will fawn on you.

0:54:100:54:12

Use me, but as your spaniel.

0:54:120:54:15

Spurn me, strike me,

0:54:160:54:19

neglect me, lose me -

0:54:190:54:22

only give me leave, unworthy as I am, to follow you.

0:54:220:54:28

What worser place can I beg in your love

0:54:280:54:32

and yet a place of high respect with me

0:54:320:54:35

than to be used as you do use your dog?

0:54:350:54:40

It felt very calculated and manipulative

0:54:430:54:46

and very womanly and, to my mind, more Titania than Helena.

0:54:460:54:52

-Mm, yes.

-And I think one of the reasons the text is so uncomfortable

0:54:520:54:58

is because she doesn't quite realise how sexual she is being.

0:54:580:55:03

The idea of...

0:55:030:55:04

..a sort of, free pass to something is certainly...

0:55:060:55:11

Goes through his mind as being quite an attractive offer

0:55:110:55:14

before realising, you know, coming to his senses

0:55:140:55:16

and thinking it would ruin everything,

0:55:160:55:18

and it would be very harsh for him to do that,

0:55:180:55:20

and therefore needing to get out of it

0:55:200:55:22

and tell her in no uncertain terms that she must stop doing this,

0:55:220:55:25

because he also doesn't trust himself to be a gentleman, I think.

0:55:250:55:28

Tempt not too much the hatred of my spirit...

0:55:280:55:33

..for I am sick when I do look on thee.

0:55:340:55:38

And I am sick when I look not on you.

0:55:380:55:43

You do impeach your modesty too much

0:55:460:55:48

to leave the city and commit yourself into the hands

0:55:480:55:50

of one that loves you not, to trust the opportunity of night

0:55:500:55:54

and the ill counsel of a desert place

0:55:540:55:56

with the rich worth of your virginity.

0:55:560:55:59

Your virtue is my privilege,

0:55:590:56:01

for that it is not night when I do see your face,

0:56:010:56:04

and therefore I think I am not in the night.

0:56:040:56:07

And nor doth this wood lack worlds of company,

0:56:070:56:11

for you, in my respect, are all the world.

0:56:110:56:15

To make it that physical

0:56:150:56:16

changes the interpretation of some of the lines, doesn't it?

0:56:160:56:20

because you're offering yourself sexually to me

0:56:200:56:22

and the idea is that I'm responding to that

0:56:220:56:25

to say, "Tempt not too much the hatred of my spirit,"

0:56:250:56:28

is sort of to say, "Don't tempt me."

0:56:280:56:29

-Don't tempt me physically.

-Don't tempt me too much,

0:56:290:56:32

-because I could just do it and then leave you.

-Yeah.

0:56:320:56:34

"For I am sick when I do look on thee,"

0:56:340:56:36

could mean, you know, I have very rude, lewd thoughts

0:56:360:56:41

when I look at you in that way.

0:56:410:56:43

But in that instance just then, I felt very much

0:56:430:56:47

that you were warning me and I had taken my sexuality too far,

0:56:470:56:54

which is why I then come back with,

0:56:540:56:58

"Your virtue is my privilege."

0:56:580:57:00

I mean, "You're far to virtuous to take advantage of me, aren't you?"

0:57:000:57:03

Yeah, which throws it around on to me. Yeah.

0:57:030:57:06

It's at that point that Helena, I think,

0:57:060:57:09

is at the most vulnerable point in the scene,

0:57:090:57:12

cos he said, "OK, fine. I'll take you here and now if you want. I can.

0:57:120:57:16

"You've offered yourself up in that respect,"

0:57:160:57:19

and at that point she throws in the tactic

0:57:190:57:22

of genuinely opening up her heart and saying how much she loves him,

0:57:220:57:28

and in the actual show, I try to play that moment

0:57:280:57:32

as quite tender and exposed.

0:57:320:57:36

We need that.

0:57:360:57:37

I think you do need that after how vulnerable she's made herself,

0:57:370:57:43

you know, in terms of being, sort of, an object,

0:57:430:57:45

I think she needs to, then, to get back on her dignity and say,

0:57:450:57:49

"No, no, I'm not trying... I don't want to be your spaniel,

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"I actually want to love you and to have you love me back."

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When you push something to an extreme and say,

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"OK, let's play it as if she's being overtly sexual,"

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Or, "Let's just play it as if she's really just being a victim,"

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sometimes what you realise is that it's a bit of a dead end

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because it's only interesting for a short while

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and then you want to see the character have more colours to them

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and see that the character is going to try different things to get what they want.

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They're not just going to always be a victim

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or just be sexually provocative.

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I think in terms of trying scenes in many different ways,

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I always think that's useful.

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I think, too, in every line you say and in every new thought you have,

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to know that there are infinite possibilities within it

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is a very useful thing.

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